[00:02] <linuxperia> Jordan_U: thanks for your tip. the problem is when the connection is established with nmcli and i try to use nslookup then the dns resolving fails while in the original ubuntu distro with the same conf values for all three conf files the dns lookup is resolved without any problem even with the desired new dns servers aka 8.8.8.8 with nslookup. i dont know what exactly the problem is why in my debootstraped ubuntu version dns fails and in th
[00:02] <linuxperia> e original version dns works.
[00:10] <linuxperia> okey i think i could isolate the dns problem a little more. dns request at the end are resolved by the main config file /etc/resolv.conf and this ones differ from the one i use on the original ubuntu. will be back in a minute and report if i could solve the problem finally :-)
[00:14] <kegg1209> Hola
[00:26] <yuza> halooo
[00:28] <xkpe_> i'm trying to install ubuntu 16.04 on a machine with raid0 set up on the bios; but at the end on the instalation i get an error: grub install failed; it seems that it's trying to install to /dev/sda instead of the /dev/mapper/...
[00:29] <xkpe_> then it shows me a box to let me try to select a diference device to install the bootloader but regardless of what I choose, even "cancel" it doesn't do anything
[00:31] <Bashing-om> !mdadm
[00:54] <nobodyimportant> http://tecflare.com/blog/index.php/posts/why-ubuntu-is-better-than-windows
[01:01] <guest2> I feel that's like arguing why hamburgers are better than pizza.
[01:01] <andyah> Hi guys, quick question. How can I get my dual monitor to work where my first monitor is connected to my NVIDIA Card via HDMI, but thesecond is connected to my motherboard with HDMI as well?
[01:02] <orlock> andyah: Maybe, depends on the specifics
[01:02] <andyah> When I just connect them, I get a "low graphics" error on my motherboard monitor, and also automatically get logged out from my account on my primary screen
[01:02] <andyah> orlock: used to work fine on Windows 10, if that helps.
[01:03] <andyah> orlock: any idea?
[01:03] <orlock> It should work then - Unsure about your error
[01:03] <andyah> orlock: Is it possible because it's on the nouveau driver? Maybe installing the proprietary nVidia drivers help?
[01:04] <nobodyimportant> http://tecflare.com/blog/index.php/posts/why-ubuntu-is-better-than-windows
[01:06] <orlock> andyah: Unsure - I have always tried to avoid running with two different cards
[01:09] <kernelpanic_> Hello! Right now I have an eth0 and eth0:1 in my etc/network/interfaces. This seems to be using the old ifconfig : aliases. Can I assign any name to the eth0 alias, but still using etc/network/interfaces?
[01:09] <kernelpanic_> (reason is I want one interface as DHCP client and one interface with static IP)
[01:10] <Bashing-om> kernelpanic_: What release ?
[01:10] <kernelpanic_> Bashing-om, sorry, 16.04
[01:11] <Bashing-om> kernelpanic_: The old naming conventions no longer apply in 16.04 : https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ .
[01:14] <kernelpanic_> Bashing-om, yeah, I saw those freaky names. And recreated the 70-persistent-blahblah file that maps MAC to fixed names. I guess I'm guilty of violating some standard, but it works well.
[01:15] <Bashing-om> kernelpanic_: Lomg as ya make 70-persistent-blahblah happy .. sysyemd will be happy .
[01:16] <Bashing-om> long*
[01:16] <kernelpanic_> Bashing-om, if I may ask, why are we discussing this? Is that related to setting interface aliases in 16.04?
[01:18] <the_CEO> Alguem br aii ?
[01:18] <Daekdroom> !br | the_CEO
[01:18] <the_CEO> BR
[01:19] <the_CEO> kole friend
[01:20] <the_CEO> por que ninguem fala aqui ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[01:20] <the_CEO> mds kkkkkk
[01:20] <k1l_> !br | the_CEO
[01:23] <Everybodydothefl> Hey everyone, for those who remember me from a few days ago, You might be thinking "oh great, it's the dummy with the nvidia & steam issues again". Well I have good news. I figured out what the problem I was running into was & I wanted to return & share the solution should anyone else come through with simmilar issues
[01:24] <Everybodydothefl> Now get ready because it's super complex & super techy, but here it is. AHEM. After you switch the GPU drivers to the ones you want to use, instead of just running sudo apt-get update & expecting it to work like I did, you need to take this one extra super techy step.
[01:25] <Everybodydothefl> You need to reboot your computer
[01:25] <Everybodydothefl> XD
[01:25] <k_sze[work]> Are there some common services/daemons that have their own periodic scheduled tasks, *not managed* through cron?
[01:25] <Everybodydothefl> That's all I was forgetting was rebooting my damn computater after switching to the Nvidia 340 drivers
[01:26] <Everybodydothefl> after reboot, worked just fine
[01:26] <k_sze[work]> (in particular, among the services installed by default in Ubuntu 14.04)
[01:26] <Everybodydothefl> Anyways, I thought I would pass that along in the event any of you guys get anyone else suffering from a similar brand of stupidity as I was
[01:27] <Everybodydothefl> deuces everyone
[01:52] <Slawek> ]
[01:53] <root____5> jello
[01:57]  * Slawek is bouncing to 'Danijay vs. OverLand - Egoist' 
[01:58] <Bashing-om> plaguen3t: Not a good thing to run a IRC client root .
[01:58] <spot0185> Bashing-om, hi
[01:59] <Bashing-om> spot0185: You rang ?
[01:59] <spot0185> Bashing-om, no?
[01:59] <et_> at least not on your own box
[02:00] <et_> lol
[02:00] <plaguen3t> Bashing-om: not my system lol
[02:00] <spot0185> what means "You rang ?"?
[02:00]  * Slawek is bouncing to 'Danijay vs. OverLand - Egoist' 
[02:07] <AlecTaylor> hi
[02:07] <plaguen3t> hello
[02:07] <spot0185> you rang?
[02:07] <AlecTaylor> Logging in and there's no Window system (no borders, no icons in left, no minimize/maximize/escape). How do I fix this?
[02:08]  * AlecTaylor has rebooted twice
[02:08] <AlecTaylor> 16.04 x64 on System76
[02:09] <plaguen3t> AlecTaylor: is there a cursor?
[02:09] <AlecTaylor> Yes, and there's some sort of windowing system, just without borders
[02:09] <gp5st> anyone have a recommendation on a laptop with decent battery life when running ubuntu?
[02:09] <AlecTaylor> I was able to right-click desktop, "open terminal"
[02:10] <AlecTaylor> and I can switch between terminal and this IRC client by clicking it in background
[02:10] <AlecTaylor> gp5st: System76
[02:11] <plaguen3t> AlecTaylor: hmm i had the same issue with a diffrent distro. mine was solved with a upgrade so try this
[02:12] <plaguen3t> AlecTaylor: type this in your terminal "apt-get update" then "apt-get dist-upgrade" without the quotes
[02:12] <AlecTaylor> Only things to upgrade are accountsservice file-roller google-chrome-stable libaccountsservice0 libappstream-glib8 libseccomp2 smplayer-themes
[02:15] <AlecTaylor> plaguen3t - Tried that, and rebooted again, no change
[02:16] <plaguen3t> whats your graphics card?
[02:16] <AlecTaylor> plaguen3t: Onboard Intel. Anyway, that's not the issue, everything has been working for years up until ~10 minutes ago
[02:17] <gp5st> AlecTaylor: thanks. I haven't actually seen one in the wild before.
[02:18] <gp5st> (and like every other place, I wish bundled hard drives weren't so pricy :-\)
[02:19] <plaguen3t> shit im sorry gtg
[02:32] <cash> Hello
[02:33] <cash> Is this a good channel for support questions?
[02:33] <cfhowlett> !ask | cash
[02:34] <cash> Thanks guys.  I have a dell e4310 and on 16.04 the keyboard backlight doesnt come on
[02:34] <cash> It was working with linux mint 18 and fedora 24. Any ideas?
[02:39] <cash> Anyone?
[02:39] <cfhowlett> !patience | cash
[02:40] <pamano54> cash your problem is most likely kernel driver issue your may have to write your own driver for kernel
[02:40] <pamano54> Good luck budddy
[02:41] <cash> Gotcha
[02:41] <cash> Not sure I can do that yet :)
[02:41] <cash> But you are probably right
[02:42] <feneco> hi, i edited my dns on network gui tool to google's public dns, in which file i can see this data?
[02:42] <pamano54> C ++ my friend or assembly
[02:42] <cfhowlett> !dns | feneco
[02:43] <feneco> not related to server/bind
[02:44] <pamano54> cash I prefer assembly it's easier and direct to the point
[02:44] <effectne-> is it hard to switch my hdd cache from hdd to ssd
[02:44] <feneco> nevermind
[02:44] <feneco> found it
[02:45] <antifa> hello ! ok so how can one use yahoo messenger on linux ? I know abouth kopete trillian etc but after they closed some servers kopete will not log on
[02:46] <k1l_> antifa: yahoo stopped letting 3rd party apps using it
[02:46] <AlecTaylor> Phew, finally got it working
[02:46] <antifa> yea I know but is there a work around to this or something ?
[02:47] <AlecTaylor> plaguen3t deleting .Xauthority did the trick I think
[02:49] <rockwell> Can I ask a question, guys?
[02:50] <rockwell> for some reason, after doing an apt-get update I'm stuck at setting up snapd.
[02:53] <dstarh> Running ubuntu 16.04 on a formerly windows HP box.  Today I got a call from "HP" that stated I was downloading trojans and viruses.  I assumed scammer and asked for more info.  He proceded to read off the serial and service numbers from the machine as well as the unique email with which I signed up to hp support when I did an RMA on the drive.  He was however surprised to find out it wasn't running windows.
[02:53] <cash> dstarh - thats weird
[02:53] <dstarh> anyone have thoughts on this.  according to support agent they have hardware level crap that phones home
[02:54] <dstarh> needless to say i'm running a full scan with clamav on the off chance they were right...
[02:54] <cash> dstarh - did this person call you directly?
[02:54] <dstarh> cash yes
[02:54] <cash> Since when does customer support call the customer?
[02:54] <dstarh> i started to eff with the guy because it seemed like classic scam tactics
[02:54] <cfhowlett> dstarh, could be your data was slurped from sources and he called ... still sounds suspicious especially as he did not know you were on limux
[02:55] <cash> That NEVER happends
[02:55] <cash> Companies dont call customers who arent complaining
[02:55] <cash> if you didnt file a complaint, they shouldnt have called.. makes you wonder if it was a real call
[02:56] <dstarh> my only other thought was that it was actually hp, trying to sell some crappy antivirus
[02:56] <dstarh> yeah i'm puzzled
[02:57] <cash> I dont think it is a real call
[02:58] <cash> unless you or a family member already called
[02:58] <dstarh> i was kind of rude with first guy thinking scam, he hung up saying f u bitch, then called me back and rattled off all the info.  I said either way i'm not interested in anything you have to say.  3 hours later another "rep" called me and thats the one who was surpised about no windows
[02:59] <dstarh> either way i was like wtf
[02:59] <cfhowlett> dstarh, well it IS HP so ... trying to sell you an antivirus "upgrade" is not out of th question.  but >.. HE said FU !?? not HP.
[02:59] <cfhowlett> this calls for anti-411 measures!
[03:00] <cfhowlett> http://www.419eater.com/
[03:00] <dstarh> cfhowlett f u bitch
[03:00] <dstarh> i forgot to google the number.  think it's time
[03:00] <cfhowlett> errr, yeah?  so the same thing, right?
[03:01] <orlock> dstarh: Scam
[03:01] <k1l_> i think this doesnt really relate to ubuntu support in here.
[03:01] <orlock> dstarh: they have people on the "inside" who have access to the stuff they told you
[03:01] <dstarh> orlock that was another thought
[03:01] <orlock> dstarh: if you want to be a good person, you could try reporting it to HP - they may have logs of who accessed your asset's serial information
[03:01] <dstarh> wonder if it's worth reporting to hp
[03:02] <k1l_> dstarh: best is you call hp yourself if you are curious what that was. we in here cant help you
[03:02] <orlock> If you have spare time, go for it
[03:02] <orlock> you will possibly help take out a scammer
[03:02] <dstarh> k1l_ yeah i was more kind of venting thanks folks
[03:02] <orlock> if you dont tell them, they wont know
[03:03] <dstarh> true
[03:04] <orlock> dstarh: it's the sort of thing that people with spare time can have lots of fun with
[03:04] <orlock> i dont have that sort of spare time anymore
[03:10] <Vaska> Hello - I'm trying to get xscreensaver to start with lightdm, but even using this example xscreensaver.desktop (http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=239106 )in /etc/xdg/autostart, I doesn't seem to want to run, any suggestions please?
[03:12] <Slawek> Zawołaj na priv. Jak będe to odpiszę.
[03:16] <drakum> hi
[03:17] <drakum> hablan español?
[03:18] <cfhowlett> !es | drakum
[03:18] <gde33> I tried to add deluge ppa http://pastebin.com/ke4KkJH9
[03:19] <cfhowlett> !ppa | gde33
[03:20] <cfhowlett> take it up with the deluge team, gde33.
[03:20] <gde33> ah ok
[03:21] <gde33> doing sudo apt-get update does show a gpg error for it so it did add it
[03:22] <cfhowlett> gpg maintenance is the responsibility of the packager so tell the team
[03:25] <t1998> l
[03:51] <s65-6> hello]
[03:51] <s65-10> hi
[03:51] <s65-6> wtat do you do?
[03:52] <s65-10> ничего
[03:52] <s65-6> надо сюда всех позвать
[03:53] <infectiious> umm wut?
[04:21] <baldwin> help
[04:21] <Bashing-om> !ask | baldwin
[04:21] <EriC^^> !ask | Bald
[04:21] <EriC^^> *baldwin
[04:26] <mintuk> hi
[04:32] <TheFocus> afternoon everyone.  any ideas about why my password isn't working when requesting samba share???  after 16.04 have had the issue... any help would be great.
[04:33] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Tried to follow that guide you mentioned... got this on update-grub2: "grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow." This while running from a liveUSB.
[04:38] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Remind me .. " canonical path of /cow " refers to the live environment .
[04:39] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Sorry... I don't understand what'reyou asking... I don't know what the error means except that some cow is without a home :p
[04:40] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Are you in reference to the maintenance free grub booting ?
[04:40] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: yes
[04:40] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Let me pull it up .. where are you getting lost ?
[04:41] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: well i'm not really getting lost... i'm getting an error... at the point at which I update-grub2
[04:42] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: The error in what environment ? a liveDVD ?
[04:42] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: liveUSB but yes
[04:43] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: And whhat are you attempting to do ? install grub ? Then you have not mounted the target partitions .
[04:43] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I also tried mounting /dev/sdb1 on /mnt and doing a chroot... that resulted in a slightly different error.
[04:43] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I'm simply following what the guide says to do... though it says nothing about chroot, etc.
[04:44] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: when I investigated the error, I found something that said to mount and chroot.
[04:44] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: that was something like "cannot find a device for /  (is it mounted?)"
[04:45] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: In that guide - inless you are going to purge and reinstall grub, there is no need of a liveUSB . You will have to explain the situation why you are booting a liveUSB .
[04:46] <apb1963_> Because 1) the menu entry doesn't show up for 16.04 and 2) I can't boot /dev/sdb1 which is where that version now lives.
[04:47] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: And presently you want to purge grub from sdb .. and re-install ? .. And is 16.04 to be your primary operating system ?
[04:48] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I just want it to work.  The details of how to do that are not super important to me... as long as it works.  Yes to primary.
[04:49] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: If purging grub is the way to make it work... that's fine
[04:49] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: I do suggest then that you do purge grub from sdb and re-install .
[04:50] <apb1963_> ok... do I need to go lookup how to do these things?
[04:50] <apb1963_> since I don't really know how.
[04:53] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Oh .. I tll ya ! .. do you know how to set up the full chroot ? and do you have networking in the chroot ?
[04:53] <Bashing-om> tell*
[04:54] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: well it's a full install.. so everything should be there.
[04:55] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: We are talking about removing those recursive grub config files on sdb .. and reinstalling anew from the liveUSB's CHroot .
[04:56] <apb1963_> ok
[04:57] <apb1963_> so after mounting /dev/sdb1 on /mnt and chrooting to /mnt, then /mnt which is the new / should have everything since it's a full install on /dev/sdb1.  Yes?
[04:58] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Show me again what we are working with ' sudo fdisk -lu ' in a pastebin . And I got a little chore to attend to .. be back in a few minutes .
[04:59] <sujith> join rails
[05:03] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: i'll do you one better: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150734/
[05:05] <EriC^^> apb1963_: what error do you get?
[05:09] <apb1963_> EriC^^: got this on update-grub2: "grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow." This while running from a liveUSB.
[05:10] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: apb1963_ Has grub installed to 3 hard drives .. and now grub.cfg is recursive with all the boot code hooks. I propese to remove all those old kernels, disable 30_os-prober in the seconday systems - update grubs on the secondaries .. and reinstall grub for 16.04 .
[05:14] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: lets do it... if he's got something alternative I'm sure he'll say something eventually.
[05:14] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: unless you feel he's got more expertise on the matter?  I don't know him.
[05:16] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: EriC^^ is the guru of booting . I been at this keyboard longer even than you have and my eys are crossing . What I have in mind will take a while . Earlier I had advised you to remove all those old kernels form the other 2 installes ... have you removed them .. Removing those old kernels will make the work much cleaner .
[05:18] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: No... I don't know how.  Also... take a look at this section of the guide and see what you think: If you multiboot mutiple Linux installs and want one Grub to control all of your OSs
[05:20] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Nope, do not see it .. give me a paragraph reference .
[05:22] <gp5st> what do system76 laptops run at boottime?
[05:22] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: ... well.. that's the reference.  Search on it.  It's near the bottom anyway.
[05:22] <apb1963_> gp5st: I don't konw but I was at ARCO earlier and their gas pump display said something like /home/whatever not found.
[05:23] <apb1963_> so I know they're running a unix variant :)
[05:24] <orlock> apb1963_: See the model of pump?
[05:24] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Generally embedding grub to the partition is not a good thing . I do but I do have an inkling of what I am doing .
[05:25] <apb1963_> orlock: no... didn't know to look for it.... or where.
[05:25] <orlock> apb1963_: Ahhh - normally its just a stamped metal plate riveted to the case somewhere
[05:25] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Oh an inkling I have... more than that is something else :)
[05:25] <orlock> apb1963_: I only ask as a sister company is one of the big brands is fuel delivery
[05:25] <apb1963_> orlock: didn't know I'd be repeating the story to anyone with an interest.  lol
[05:26] <orlock> i notice every so often i fill up with one of their pumps
[05:26] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: ok, np.  I just thought it looked like a nice simple solution.
[05:26] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: I really want to see ' sudo fdisk -lu ' . That is how my thinging is arranged .
[05:26] <orlock> though there's a good chance what you were looking at was just a linux based advertising topper
[05:26] <orlock> rather than the pump itself
[05:26] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: well...  I guess if I can figure out how to turn networking on, on the liveUSB then I can.
[05:27] <orlock> previous employer made ubuntu based systems to go on top of ATM's to display ads
[05:27] <apb1963_> orlock: no clue
[05:28] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: it asked if I wanted wireless at some point, but I said no.. I guess I need to reboot to get back to it?
[05:30] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Sorry. No wireless experience . can not advise there .
[05:30] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: may have found it in system settings... know in a minute...
[05:43] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: http://paste.debian.net/816030/
[05:48] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: K.. as 14.04 is installed to sda5 ( in the extended partition) embedding grub in your case is a good thing . Be aware thought that in order to boot Windows XP you will have to set in bios tp boot that 1st hard drive .
[05:50] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I can't remember the last time I booted xp on this machine... i'm not sure it even works... so no worries.
[05:52] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Right .. look I am real tired . and need to quit .. making too many mistakes . What we 'need' to do in prep will take a while .. one drive at the time . how bout we pick this back yp tomorrow ?
[05:52] <Bashing-om> up*
[05:52] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: sure np.  I appreciate the help!!!
[05:53] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: good night!
[05:53] <Bashing-om>  apb1963_ I will mark your paste and we boot sda 1st and remove old kernels as a place to start .
[05:56] <nelson_> I cannot view or select other wireless networks, in order to do so I need to sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart .. is this a known bug?
[05:57] <Surfer2010> Is there a ubuntu picture server which can write tags to the file itself instead of writing it to a database?
[05:58] <bumblefuzz> how to I make a request from a server of how many xml keys are available?
[06:01] <bumblefuzz> I've been able to use xml_grep to request lists of keys but they always max out at 1000 and I've done several now using markers and I'd like to know how many keys there are altogether
[06:01] <bumblefuzz> how do I request that?
[06:10] <splashing> where to discuss ubuntu 16.10?
[06:10] <dax> #ubuntu+1
[06:11] <splashing> thanks
[06:16] <pagios> i need a way to login to my desktop at work which doesnt have any public ip, the desktop is locked and needs to stay locked while i am working remotely to avoid users from seeing what i am doing , or using the local keyboard or mouse
[06:17] <orlock> pagios: Can you ping it? Got VPN?
[06:17] <pagios> orlock: no vpn it is on an internet network
[06:18] <orlock> You can make this work, but you need to have access to it locally first
[06:18] <orlock> unless you can get a VPN
[06:18] <pagios> orlock: i can use teamviewer but the issue is that it unlocks the screen
[06:18] <orlock> bbut honestly, i''d be discussing this with your IT team
[06:19] <orlock> they should be able to provide you with remote network access
[06:19] <orlock> and then you can SSH into your desktop, or VNC
[06:20] <orlock> or - turnn off your screen when you leave the office
[06:33] <eruditehermit> hey, is there a way to revert to the packages that were installed in the base state of 16.04.1
[06:36] <masty1> hello
[06:38] <masty1> I have a laptop that I run 2 monitors out from, 1 hdmi 1 vga. Whenever I reboot it doesn't save my config (so I have to re-adjust the screens) any ideas?
[06:48] <xangua> eruditehermit: which packages would those be?
[06:49] <qmake> hello, how can I make lldpad service emit actual MAC addr instead of the bond MAC?
[06:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[06:51] <zetheroo> in 16.04 how does one see what gfx driver is currently in use?
[06:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zetheroo, which grphics card
[06:52] <ducasse> qmake: try #ubuntu-server
[06:52] <zetheroo> all I see from 'lspci' is: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[06:52] <ducasse> zetheroo: lspci -k
[06:53] <zetheroo> Kernel driver in use: i915
[06:53] <zetheroo> ducasse: thanks
[06:53] <zetheroo> ducasse: is the one I am using the best one available for my hardware?
[06:54] <ducasse> zetheroo: there is only one driver for intel
[06:54] <zetheroo> ok
[06:55] <zetheroo> ducasse: is this driver developed from Intel directly?
[06:57] <ducasse> zetheroo: yes, intel writes linux drivers for all their products
[06:57] <zetheroo> nice!
[06:57] <ducasse> zetheroo: they are among the biggest contributors to the kernel
[06:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zetheroo, Intel drivers are nicely open source to
[06:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> unlike Nvida ec
[06:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> etc\
[06:58] <zetheroo> how can I see the version of the driver that I am using?
[06:59] <zetheroo> or is there only one version of the i915 driver
[07:00] <ducasse> zetheroo: there is a tool to download the latest stack available at intels 01.org site
[07:00] <zetheroo> ok
[07:01] <ducasse> zetheroo: i haven't tested iyt myself, though.
[07:01] <zetheroo> looking on the Intel site now ...
[07:01] <zetheroo> ah cool, a deb package :)
[07:01] <ducasse> zetheroo: are you having a problem with the driver?
[07:02] <zetheroo>  ducasse: sorta, though I am not sure it's an issue with the gfx driver or the driver for the docking station
[07:02] <zetheroo> trying out this Intel utility now ..
[07:04] <zetheroo> well it's installing i915-4.6.3-4.4.0-dkms
[07:05] <pagios> anyone here tried vnc server/client?
[07:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> pagios, yes I think so but been a few years
[07:06] <sobersabre> hi.
[07:07] <sobersabre> I have a trusty machine I cloned, and it does not forget eth0, which is now missing.
[07:07] <sobersabre> I looked in /etc/udev/rules.d and there are no files there.
[07:07] <sobersabre> how do I make that machine to forget its previous eth0 ?
[07:07] <sobersabre> I tried grepping /etc and found nothing useful.
[07:07] <sobersabre> :)
[07:09] <meet_praveen> how can we get source code path from pid?
[07:10] <sobersabre> meet_praveen: you may never be able to, depends on what you're running.
[07:10] <Triffid_Hunter> meet_praveen: check /proc/pid/exe, find out which package provides the binary and ask apt for its source?
[07:10] <zetheroo> ducasse: this is what the Intel utility did on my system http://paste.ubuntu.com/23153452/
[07:10] <pagios> SebthreeBQM10HD: anything better?
[07:11] <zetheroo> going to reboot now - fingers crossed :D
[07:11] <sobersabre> command line is specified in /proc/$pid/cmdline, executable at /proc/$pid/exe, but if is the binary and it's not compiled with debugging symbols AND you don't have symbols/list files - you don't have the sources
[07:11] <sobersabre> meet_praveen: ^^^
[07:15] <meet_praveen> sobersabre, Triffid_Hunter: sudo /proc/4515/exe   where 4515 is pid for a python process
[07:16] <meet_praveen> but after running this it ggoes to python interpreter
[07:16] <meet_praveen> python command line
[07:18] <Jetfire007> hi
[07:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !vnc | pagios
[07:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Jetfire007, hi
[07:18] <Jetfire007> any channels recommendation
[07:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> pagios, you coud look into freenx
[07:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !freenx
[07:19] <ducasse> !alis | Jetfire007
[07:19] <Jetfire007> ya?? sure thanks
[07:19] <Triffid_Hunter> meet_praveen: so check /proc/pid/cmdline ?
[07:19] <sobersabre> meet_praveen: I don't understand your problem. re-iterate what is the actual problem....
[07:19] <Triffid_Hunter> meet_praveen: or /proc/pid/fd/ perhaps
[07:20] <ubuntu_> hello
[07:20] <meet_praveen> Triffid_Hunter: sudo: /proc/4515/fd: command not found     sudo: /proc/4515/cmdline: command not found
[07:21] <meet_praveen> sobersabre: i have PID of some process and i want to know from here it's running or the path of source code from where it's running
[07:22] <Triffid_Hunter> meet_praveen: why are you trying to execute stuff in /proc? go have a look
[07:22] <meet_praveen> Triffid_Hunter: didn't grt
[07:22] <meet_praveen> Triffid_Hunter: didn't get
[07:23] <ducasse> meet_praveen: where the program was compiled isn't stored in the binary afaik
[07:24] <meet_praveen> ducasse: might be but how can i know that from where it's running
[07:24] <meet_praveen> ducasse: i have only PID
[07:26] <ducasse> meet_praveen: you've been told, /proc/pid/cmdline
[07:27] <meet_praveen> ducasse: yes, but it's saying command not found
[07:27] <ducasse> meet_praveen: because it isn't a command
[07:27] <ducasse> meet_praveen: try 'cat'
[07:27] <Triffid_Hunter> meet_praveen: it's not a command, it's a virtual file.. try cat instead of sudo
[07:29] <meet_praveen> Triffid_Hunter, ducasse: yes cat is working Thanks :)
[07:30] <meet_praveen> Triffid_Hunter, ducasse: where i can get any tutorial for exploring more?
[07:30] <pinksandy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHyzsuj2Rzs
[07:30] <pinksandy> 9 11 Brainwashing: Who is responsible? Part 2
[07:31] <Triffid_Hunter> meet_praveen: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
[07:31] <ducasse> !ot | pinksandy
[07:34] <meet_praveen> Triffid_Hunter: Thanks :)
[07:36] <FManTropyx> Friday, Friday! time to hack at my Ubuntu ;)
[07:36] <pinksandy> "Life is too wonderful and promising to allow a gang of psychopaths to turn it into a living Hell."
[07:40] <mithil> Greetings
[07:40] <mithil>  i recently updated to ubantu 16.04 LTS and stuck with  poweroff
[07:41] <mithil>  i cant shut down my system
[07:41] <mithil>  need help
[07:41] <no_gravity> mithil: What happens?
[07:41] <mithil> i say SUDO POWEROFF and it gets stuck with the ubantu pic and then nothing for 24 hours
[07:42] <mithil> it says target reached to power off
[07:42] <mithil> and then again dotted ubuntu screen
[07:44] <no_gravity> Hmm.. the "ubuntu pic" is not very helpful. Maybe there is a way to configure Ubuntu so it shows the command line instead of the pic?
[07:46] <G3nka1> hey guys I am ubuntu 16 and trying to connect to a vpn network http://www.freevpnnetwork.com/ in this HK - china Vpn server, so I created a new PPTP connection and under VPN (tab) I set gateway to 161.202.39.248 and username as freevpnnetwork.com and in pasword field its know leting me input anything and I dont know that NT domain is so I gave the same ip as I gave for gateway here also and saved it and when tried to connect it asked me for
[07:46] <G3nka1> password and when I input the password the lock symbol on the netowrk blinked and said the vpn network stopped and I am connected back to my actual network, whats happening here ?
[07:46] <Peppernrino> adding graphics drive ppa caused me to have several errors while installing nvidia packages, as well as synaptic on 16.04
[07:47] <Peppernrino> been trying to get cuda working properly for a couple of months now. sort of a nightmare. :\
[07:47] <tatertots> G3nka1: NT domain is "optonal" feel free to leave it blank
[07:47] <Peppernrino> packages install and stuff... but BOINC never sees them.
[07:48] <Peppernrino> any suggestions? :)
[07:48] <G3nka1> didnt make a difference tatertots :/
[07:48] <tatertots> G3nka1: no it won't because you have other pieces of the authentication syntax incorrect
[07:49] <G3nka1> what do you mean tatertots ?
[07:51] <G3nka1> what am I doing wrong tatertots ?
[07:52] <tatertots> G3nka1: I'm going to try to connect to the same VPN on ubuntu 16.04 and I'll let you know in a second
[07:54] <G3nka1> sure thanks tatertots :)
[07:54] <pinksandy> The perpetrators have been identified.
[07:55] <bazhang> !ot | pinksandy
[07:55] <bazhang> wrong network pinksandy
[07:55] <pinksandy> bazhang, Which network do you recommend?
[07:55] <pinksandy> I'm here for the free software community.
[07:55] <pinksandy> We must mobilize against the perpetrators..
[07:56] <ducasse> pinksandy: seems you're here to rant
[07:56] <bazhang> no idea, just stop here please pinksandy
[07:57] <Peppernrino> gonna fuck with modprobe and some more fresh installs. thanks for the help. :)
[07:58] <bazhang> please no cursing here Peppernrino
[07:58] <tatertots> G3nka1: connection failed using the info on that page
[07:58] <Peppernrino> ok
[07:58] <Peppernrino> so you CAN see me.
[07:58] <G3nka1> ah so something wrong with the sever itself eh, any other good free vpn servers you know of ?
[07:58] <G3nka1> tatertots,
[07:59] <Peppernrino> no such thing as a good free vpn
[07:59] <ducasse> G3nka1: if you need vpn, pay for it
[07:59] <Peppernrino> ^
[07:59] <Peppernrino> nordvpm is cheap. :)
[07:59] <G3nka1> for once ducasse ? is it worth for a one time thing ?
[07:59] <Peppernrino> vpn*
[07:59] <Peppernrino> who needs a vpn once...?
[07:59] <ducasse> G3nka1: some sell one-day subscriptions
[08:00] <Peppernrino> and yeah nord does that i think
[08:05] <mattysmart> Good monring
[08:06] <javajoe> Where can I find the list of supported Stanzas for Upstart 1.12.1
[08:08] <lifeofguenter> hey everyone, anyone experiencing random segfaults with ubuntu 15.10 + PHP5.6 ?
[08:09] <bazhang> lifeofguenter, thats past end of support time to upgrade
[08:09] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | lifeofguenter
[08:10] <lifeofguenter> :) yup I know, unfortunately that is not in my hands (3rd party involvement) - not too much interested in solving the problem, as we will be switching over to Debian anyways, but just curious if anyone has similar issues
[08:10] <bazhang> lifeofguenter, in yourhands or not we wont support it here
[08:11] <lifeofguenter> Yes thanks bazhang I understand.. I don't want support, I am just curious if anyone is having a similar issue (not necessarily "support staff from ubuntu" - just sysadmins ;) )
[08:12] <lifeofguenter> ah but in any case, experiencing the same issue with ubuntu 14.04 - that's still supported, orrect?
[08:12] <bazhang> lifeofguenter, this is not a polling channel sorry, and those on supported versions are who we help here, so plese stop asking here
[08:12] <lifeofguenter> 14.04 is not supported anymore?
[08:12] <jSmP> hi
[08:12] <lifeofguenter> thought it was LTS with some years still left...
[08:13] <Exodious> guys do you know any good VPN that is free ?
[08:13] <bazhang> lifeofguenter, you said very clearly it was fifteen ten
[08:13] <Exodious> and works good?
[08:13] <lifeofguenter> bazhang I am having the same issue with 14.04 as well though
[08:14] <lifeofguenter> bazhang is 14.04 still being supported?
[08:14] <bazhang> Exodious, thats not on topic here try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux
[08:14] <Exodious> i don't know how to connect there :D
[08:14] <Peppernrino> "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[08:15] <bazhang> lifeofguenter, if you want to know who else is experiecning that check launchpad bugs for it
[08:15] <Exodious> hello all
[08:15] <Exodious> oh i am still here
[08:15] <lifeofguenter> ah lemme ask the other way around, bazhang what am I allowed to do here? :D
[08:16] <Ben64> lifeofguenter: this channel is for ubuntu support only, and only for currently supported releases
[08:16] <bazhang> give us the relevant details of your install, show us the output of your sources.list , give the commands given and the exact error results in a pastebin and then give us the url for all of those
[08:17] <bazhang> first of all version lifeofguenter
[08:17] <bazhang> !version | lifeofguenter
[08:18] <lifeofguenter> man so glad I am switching over to debian on all our servers...
[08:18] <bazhang> the sources.list are in /etc/apt/sources.list lifeofguenter pastebin those for us and give us the url for that as well
[08:23] <no_gravity> mithil: I would start by finding out how to disable that "ubuntu image" on shutdown. So you get console output instead and see what is going on.
[08:24] <mithil> i say SUDO POWEROFF and it gets stuck with the ubantu pic and then nothing for 24 hours
[08:24] <mithil> any help
[08:25] <no_gravity> mithil: I would start by finding out how to disable that "ubuntu image" on shutdown. So you get console output instead and see what is going on.
[08:26] <mithil> how do you get console output?
[08:26] <no_gravity> mithil: I don't know. Probably somebody here knows.
[08:26] <mithil>  i am a windows guy i recently shifted to ubuntu
[08:26] <mithil> ohh
[08:26] <tos-1> b1-kleinbrand
[08:27] <vorap> mithil: if you press the escape key during startup you'll get the termianl output
[08:27] <vorap> I think the same goes for poweroff
[08:28] <no_gravity> vorap: Can one permanently turn terminal output on?
[08:28] <xaocs> whois xaocs
[08:29] <vorap> You can switch to another tty
[08:29] <vorap> And from tthere you can execute the poweroff command
[08:29] <no_gravity> xangua: You are an IRC user from the USA using a Time Warner Cable Internet.
[08:30] <vorap> no_gravity: :)
[08:46] <adac> For ana pp I start via "service" wehre is the config file for this service saved?
[08:46] <adac> * an app
[08:48] <ssc_> Long Live Ubuntu
[08:48] <no_gravity> mithil: What hardware is it you run it on?
[08:58] <mithil> Its a lenovo All in one :Intel® Celeron(R) CPU J1800 @ 2.41GHz × 2   3.8 GiB: Intel® Bay Trail
[08:58] <mithil> @ no gravity
[09:03] <tomreyn> mithil: are you still looking for help there?
[09:06] <mithil> yes
[09:07] <tomreyn> mithil: so this is a general issue - it doe snot shut down cleanly, or a one time issue - you are currently waiting for it to shutdown but it doesn't and you don't know whether its safe to turn it off in this state?
[09:08] <mithil> its a genral issue
[09:08] <mithil> it persist from the time of upgrade
[09:08] <tomreyn> i assume you are next to this computer?
[09:08] <mithil> i am on this computer
[09:08] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version is it running now?
[09:09] <mithil> 16.04 LTS
[09:11] <b6s3d> hello
[09:11] <tomreyn> hi there
[09:11] <b6s3d> i am having troubles installing themes for ubuntu
[09:13] <tomreyn> b6s3d: how are you doing it and how is it failing?
[09:13] <b6s3d> Following this guide: http://killhellokitty.deviantart.com/art/DeLorean-Dark-Theme-3-6-vs-2-56-328859335
[09:13] <b6s3d> when i try to install it by this command: sudo apt-get install delorean-dark-theme-3.6 i can't
[09:13] <garik> Hello!
[09:14] <garik> Привет всем!
[09:14] <tomreyn> !ru > garik
[09:15] <tomreyn> b6s3d: whichi ubuntu version are you on?
[09:15] <b6s3d> 16.04
[09:15] <tomreyn> b6s3d: this PPA is not available for your ubuntu version.
[09:17] <b6s3d> tomreyn: what can i do then?
[09:17] <tomreyn> b6s3d:  you could try to contact https://launchpad.net/~killhellokitty and request for ubuntu xenial (16.04) support to be added.
[09:17] <b6s3d> alright, do you know any dark themes out there as well?
[09:18] <tomreyn> b6s3d: this is probably the same person as http://killhellokitty.deviantart.com/
[09:18] <tomreyn> b6s3d: i'm not really into themes, no. :/
[09:19] <b6s3d> anyone else know any good dark themes?
[09:22] <RoninCoder> Hi
[09:22] <RoninCoder> When I press enter in console when trying to enter my password for git
[09:22] <RoninCoder> It creates a newline
[09:22] <RoninCoder> Instead of entering the password
[09:23] <b6s3d> thanks for the help tomreyn
[09:23] <tomreyn> b6s3d: maybe one of the xenial themes here will work: http://www.noobslab.com/p/themes-icons.html
[09:24] <tomreyn> i mean technically they probably will but i don't know whetnher they match what you are looking for
[09:24] <tomreyn> all of this is based on PPAs, though (3rd party package archives), and thus not supported
[09:34] <sbadea> join #play
[09:34] <hemangpatel> Hello here
[09:34] <hemangpatel> there*
[09:35] <pa> nobody in here using kubuntu-desktop on plain ubuntu?
[09:35] <andy__> i got the software update saying my 14.04 is EOL
[09:35] <pa> (16.04)
[09:35] <andy__> what's happened if I install this software update?
[09:35] <hemangpatel> successfully upgraded to 16.04 but i'm facing two issues
[09:35] <FManTropyx> interesting update
[09:35] <hemangpatel> I can't do clean shutdown
[09:36] <FManTropyx> I think it is just to inform you about the fact, andy
[09:36] <hemangpatel> and nautilas does not respond for some time when i logged in
[09:37] <hemangpatel> So my question is where can i check log while system shutdown ?
[09:38] <kin> Hi everyone
[09:39] <dreamscape> hello all i have a Atom 1.6ghz single core with Hyper Threading, 2GB ram.. would the latest Ubuntu be ok on this machine?
[09:39] <kin> Yes
[09:39] <kin> It will work
[09:39] <dreamscape> slowly/
[09:39] <dreamscape> ?
[09:40] <kin> No the Atom processor is quite good you wont feel any slowness while using ubuntu
[09:40] <bazhang> dreamscape, try lubuntu if you deem it too slow
[09:40] <bazhang> !lubuntu | dreamscape
[09:40] <dreamscape> i shall give it a go, thank you
[09:41] <kin> but if you are using any heavy application on it then you may face some slowness issue
[09:41] <kin> Yes you welcome
[09:44] <kin> Well guy's I had a question that few day's back I purchase a new HP laptop, later I installed Ubuntu 16.04 and updated it. But Yesterday when I tried running a video it showed a flashing horizontal pink line(1px) at the very bottom of my screen so is there anyone who can tell me what the problem is?
[09:46] <tomreyn> kin: that's probably just a video encoding issue. does it happen with other videos?
[09:47] <kin> No its its still flashing  now even now there is no video running
[09:47] <tomreyn> oh, have you rebooted since?
[09:47] <FManTropyx> Ubuntu on a new laptop? is that possible?
[09:47] <kin> yes
[09:47] <kin> Yes I rebooted
[09:47] <kin> Multiple times
[09:48] <tomreyn> yes: then it's probably rather a bios or hardware issue. try updating the system firmware / bios / uefi and, if it's still an issue, return the device.
[09:48] <tomreyn> kin ^
[09:49] <kin> OK but thans tomreyn for you help i really appreciate it :)
[09:49] <kin> Thanx Tomreyn!!!!
[09:50] <tomreyn> kin: welcome. before you do all of this, maybe try shutting down the computer, removing the battery, waiting 10 seconds, reseating the battery, then powering it up again.
[09:51] <kin> -->FmanTropyx: If you got a new laptop and want to install Ubuntu on it first try doing low level formatting of the hard drive then you may able to install Ubuntu on it
[09:52] <kin> Tomreyn : Ok I will do that now
[09:52] <tomreyn> FManTropyx: this depends much on the hardware but most of the time the answer is 'yes'
[09:59] <kin> tomreym: I power cycle the laptop but it did'nt work, I need to get the replacement for the laptop
[10:06] <tomreyn> kin: did you remove the battery as i suggested?
[10:10] <kin> Yes
[10:10] <kin> Tomreyn: Yes
[10:12] <tomreyn> kin: maybe take a photo then before you return it in case you cannot reproduce it at the repair station. and consider the bios upgrade, too, though this is probably not mandatory (but could save oyu some time).
[10:14] <kin> Actually I purchase that laptop from Amazon and I just now schedule the replacement date towards them
[10:14] <kin> They are going to come tomorrow for the replacement
[10:17] <kin> Tomreyn : Thanks for all your help Tomreyn.
[10:18] <tomreyn> welcome
[10:44] <mstf_> hi
[10:45] <mstf_> I have a question
[10:53] <redbeardt> Hi all. Is there some way to establish that my GPU is not dead, rather than Ubuntu's support for it having gone awry in recent software updates as was my initial assumption when it suddenly stopped working? I just decided to go back to trying nouveau with my GPU and now even nouveau is giving an 'unknown chipset' error in dmesg. It's definitely supported by nouveau though, according to their website
[10:54] <redbeardt> (940M).
[10:54] <hateball> redbeardt: how are you reading the text on the screen if the GPU is dead?
[10:55] <redbeardt> hateball: This laptop has that Optimus tech. I'm using the Intel GPU atm.
[10:56] <upk> ganm
[10:56] <upk> pwd
[10:56] <upk> niaho
[10:56] <upk> nihao
[10:57] <Triffid_Hunter> redbeardt: try a liveusb
[10:58] <redbeardt> Triffid_Hunter: Oh der. Good call.
[11:05] <ycarene> Is there a gui frontend to snap that isn't the ubuntu software center?
[11:07] <k1l_> ycarene: you mean a 3rd party software center?
[11:08] <ycarene> heh, basically
[11:11] <k1l_> ycarene: i saw a blogpost about making one. the guys at #snappy should know
[11:11] <dreamscape> can anyone help me on installing graphics drivers? I have a Dell Optiplex FX190 with an Atom 230 CPU
[11:12] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:16] <Ubantu> When doing top, I see the users debian-+ running tor. I don' t recognize it, so I try to kill it, but it doesn't work.. Should I worry? What is that?
[11:19] <tomreyn> dreamscape: i can't seem to find anything about a "Dell Optiplex FX190" on their website. do you have the tech specs?
[11:20] <dreamscape> afraid not, it's just a basic thin client with a Atom 230 on it I'd expect Intel 945 chipset or similar
[11:21] <dreamscape> https://www.dell.com/downloads/global/solutions/Optiplex_FX160_Customer_Brochure_English.pdf
[11:21] <dreamscape> SiSM671 Northbridge and SiS968 Southbridge
[11:24] <tomreyn> lspci -knnv | grep -FA10 VGA
[11:24] <tomreyn> put this on a pastebin
[11:24] <dreamscape> tomreyn Integrated graphics: Mirage 3 Graphics, 256MB Max Video Memory
[11:25] <Slawek> Zawołaj na priv. Jak będe to odpiszę.
[11:26] <k1l_> Slawek: please use english in here
[11:31] <dreamscape> I am trying to connect to my box via tightVNC but i get a grey screen, would this be caused by drivers?
[11:32] <k1l_> dreamscape: no.
[11:32] <dreamscape> Ahhh ok, as my desktop res is stuck to 480 res so i asssumed it would be that
[11:33] <dreamscape> i don't care for drivers as i want to run it headless but i need vnc to work
[11:33] <k1l_> can you use that machins locally with a monitor?
[11:33] <dreamscape> I am now yes
[11:33] <k1l_> and its stuck to 480?
[11:33] <dreamscape> yeah
[11:33] <konrados> Morning :)
[11:33] <dreamscape> not too worried about that, but it would effect VNC maybe?
[11:34] <Ubantu> Can anyone help?
[11:34] <k1l_> there were and are issues with that old atom chips. i dont know what the state of that crappy intel chip is. but there should be some users at least trying to fix that.
[11:34] <konrados> Morning :)
[11:34] <dreamscape> it is running well, it's just VNC
[11:34] <k1l_> dreamscape: some desktop environments have issues with vnc and other remote desktops due to using 3d.
[11:35] <dreamscape> ah ok
[11:35] <no_gravity> Is there a way to get rid of an sshfs mount when the server died?
[11:37] <konrados> I was redirected to #debian, first was on #kubuntu, now on #debian they told to ask here, because "You'll have to ask in #ubuntu, we are not in control what happens in that distro.". Please don't redirect me, this would bo for the third time :( The question is - there is a bug in older versions of Apache2 ( https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=791902   ), they already fixed it. but in ubuntu trusty, which I have, and right now can't
[11:37] <konrados> upgrade, in repos there is the older, buggy version, of Apache. I'd like > 2.4.17 - how can I do this? Somehow manually?
[11:38] <k1l_> konrados: are you sure that bug still happens on ubuntu?
[11:38] <k1l_> konrados: usually ubuntu doesnt ship new version but patches the old version.
[11:39] <konrados> Yes, I'm sure, k1l_ - I still see it on my second display.
[11:41] <k1l_> !bug | konrados
[11:41] <k1l_> well i would file a bug for ubuntu and link that debian bugreport so the package maintainers can fix that
[11:43] <konrados> k1l_ OK, but I can't work right now... they'll do it a month. Plus, they already did fix it, I just need a newer version.
[11:43] <konrados> But yes, that^ plus I will file a bug report.
[11:47] <konrados> \ubuntu-bug apache2
[11:47] <konrados> ehh I can't do that
[11:47] <baxx> is 16.04.01 released?
[11:47] <k1l_> baxx: yes
[11:48] <baxx> i was going to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 and apparently i need ot wait until that
[11:48] <baxx> k1l_: ok cool
[11:48] <k1l_> konrados: that is not an irc command
[11:48] <baxx> is there anything major i should be concerned about upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04 ?
[11:49] <OerHeks> baxx, see releasenotes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[11:49] <k1l_> baxx: read the release notes. changes to systemd, a lot of new versions for most programs, new kernel,..
[11:50] <baxx> OerHeks: k1l_: cool cheers, as long as nothing breaks its ok.
[11:50] <baxx>  
[11:52] <dreamscape> I have 2 partitions on my buntu install, where will my second partition be, what directory?
[11:53] <baxx> how to open the system setting GUI from i3 ? I'm not sure what to search for...
[11:54] <akik> i installed lubuntu-desktop with apt-get. now that i want to remove it, apt-get remove only tries to remove the one package called lubuntu-desktop and not the other 200 or so packages. how can i remove them too?
[11:55] <aki> baxx: unity-control-center (or gnome-control-center before 14.04)
[11:55] <OerHeks> akik, adding is easy, removing a desktop can be a pain
[11:55] <aki> baxx: google 'system settings gui', that's the first result :)
[11:55] <dreamscape> I have 2 partitions on my buntu install, where will my second partition be, what directory?
[11:56] <dreamscape> ./dev/sda or?
[11:56] <aki> do you have something mounted in /media?
[11:56] <akik> OerHeks: do i need to go read the apt history file to get the other packages to remove?
[11:57] <OerHeks> standard answer here is yes, you can install any desktop, i wouldn't do that, install side-by-side only is safe.
[11:57] <aki> /dev/sd* is the device, not the mount point, it should be somewhere in /media
[11:57] <dreamscape> ok thanks
[11:57] <OerHeks> akik, i don't know how to solve this, reinstall lubuntu maybe?
[11:57] <dreamscape> Directory of /media/jay/
[11:57] <dreamscape> thats all i have
[11:58] <akik> OerHeks: i'll try to remove the packages that are listed in history.log
[11:58] <dreamscape> the device/partition shows on ubuntu desktop though
[11:58] <dreamscape> :/
[11:58] <aki> dreamscape: /mnt then maybe, /media is for per user mounting, /mnt for system wide mounting
[11:59] <dreamscape> nothing in there
[11:59] <aki> then what's your problem if it's already mounted and on the desktop? open it and see where it points to :)
[11:59] <aki> or use mount in a terminal and see where it's mounted
[11:59] <dreamscape> I need to set the directory for a Samba shate
[11:59] <dreamscape> share
[12:00] <aki> mount | grep /sd
[12:00] <Om4rSikl> are there any programs that can help me create a bootable USB Drive?
[12:00] <Om4rSikl> I don't have windows
[12:01] <aki> Om4rSikl: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[12:01] <Om4rSikl> thnks
[12:01] <aki> (or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick for more options)
[12:05] <aki> akik: apt-get autoremove could maybe help
[12:05] <aki> but it probably won't remove everything
[12:05] <aki> what's your real problem, your disk space, or the new boot screen that doesn't go away? :)
[12:09] <akik> aki: i managed to do it by reading apt's history log. all the package names are there on the line starting with Install:
[12:09] <akik> aki: kind of a weird thing that you need to do manually
[12:12] <aki> well, yeah, you could list the package dependencies with apt, but that doesn't mean some aren't needed by another package
[12:12] <aki> solving dependencies is a weird thing
[12:12] <olscumpy> I used to use mint cinnamon, and now use ubuntu mate. I am using the same, unchanged /home partition for both - I think it might be encrypted, which ubuntu wiki says causes problems with pm-hibernate. is there a way to copy mint's Hibernation-related package(s) or scripts to Ubuntu, so that I can hibernate? currently sudo pm-hibernate only turns the display off briefly, but leaves everything else running
[12:13] <akik> aki: list the dependencies how? i could see all the package names that were installed by "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop"
[12:13] <aki> akik: apt-cache show lubuntu-desktop | grep ^Depends
[12:14] <akik> aki: thanks
[12:17] <aki> akik: there's also apt-cache depends for dependencies and sub-dependencies, and apt-cache rdepends for reverse dependencies, but that gets messy quickly
[12:24] <akik> aki: why do you think apt-get doesn't offer to remove but the one package called lubuntu-desktop?
[12:24] <k1l_> akik: that is a metapackage
[12:26] <konrados> I've just started the ubuntu-bug program, I entered what's up, how to continue i.e. send it?
[12:26] <primoz> emberjs
[12:26] <akik> k1l_: yes but if i use "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" why doesn't it work in the remove case?
[12:27] <konrados> k1l_: You suggested me the ubuntu-bug program, can you see my question?
[12:28] <k1l_> konrados: what is the issue now?
[12:29] <konrados> The same, I was just out of the office, so I came back to this issue ( https://gist.github.com/konrados/e535898559170772b74ac2d72ca9ddac )
[12:30] <k1l_> konrados: ah wait. you are using php from a PPA. that is not covered by the ubuntu team.
[12:32] <konrados> k1l_ so? Does it justify what happens? You could also say that I can't install anything outside ubuntu repos, couldn't you? PHP requires Apache, Ubuntu apps require ... Ubuntu.
[12:33] <k1l_> konrados: you use/install libapache2-mod-php7.0 from a 3rd party. and that package is making the issue. please contact the PPA maker to look at fixing that package
[12:34] <konrados> OK, thanks kil_
[12:36] <k1l_> konrados: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php?field.series_filter=trusty  the description names where to file the bug
[12:37] <Jesusss> hello?
[12:37] <SuperWangCC> what
[12:37] <Jesusss> What you say
[12:37] <Jesusss> Where am i?
[12:37] <konrados> Thanks again k1l_
[12:37] <k1l_> Jesusss: its the technical ubuntu support irc channel
[12:38] <Jesusss> Oh shit im sorry
[12:38] <ZoF_> In Xanadu did Kubla Khan A stately pleasure dome decree: Where Alph, the sacred river, ran Through caverns measureless to man Down to a sunless sea.
[12:40] <ash_workz> I sort of rely on package managers, but I ran into an issue in one of my containers with apache missing an so file, so I thought I'd go through the install process on that module, but it looks like a lot of sites say to download a package for the module, unpack, move some files and compile
[12:41] <ash_workz> I typically have terrible luck with those things because I don't know really what I'm doing and all the instructions produce entirely different results depending on what system they're writing the instructions for
[12:42] <ash_workz> also, most people are providing some link to their personal site or someone else's which screams to me, don't go with those instructions... like why am I not getting this from where ever the mod was officially released?
[12:42] <FManTropyx> how do I see if a package is installed and why can I not find this information in the manual pages?
[12:42] <ash_workz> anyway, is there like a package manager for apache modules?
[12:43] <ash_workz> FManTropyx: dpkg -s <package>
[12:43] <FManTropyx> thank you!
[12:44] <tomreyn> ash_workz: which module are you looking for?
[12:44] <DexterF> hi
[12:44] <ash_workz> or actually `dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Status}\n'  <package>
[12:45] <ash_workz> (sans backtick...)
[12:45] <ash_workz> will give you a succinct answer
[12:45] <ash_workz> tomreyn: mod_proxy_html
[12:45] <Jesusss> Is there some channels to talk ?
[12:46] <k1l_> !ot | Jesusss
[12:46] <ash_workz> I thought there might've been an #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:47] <DexterF> 16.04.1 server, 3 disks, server CD installer: created raid5 from 3 disks. want to create partitions on md device. can't: selecting "Nr 1" under "RAID5 device" gives me: "editing partiton 1: no filesystem found. settings: -use as: dont use | -delete data on this partition | -finish creating partition"
[12:47] <ash_workz> can one search for #ubuntu* ?
[12:47] <DexterF> not quite what I expect. can the ubuntu server installer create md partitons at all, like md0p1?
[12:47] <Pici> ash_workz: /msg alis list #ubuntu*   (but yes, #ubuntu-offtopic exists)
[12:47] <Jesusss> !register
[12:49] <tomreyn> ash_workz: mod_proxy_html is part of the default apache2-bin package
[12:49] <SuperWangCC> WHAT
[12:49] <ash_workz> tomreyn: is this about the time I ask in #httpd ?
[12:49] <ash_workz> tomreyn: hmm... it's complaining that the .so is missing
[12:50] <tomreyn> ash_workz: it should be there if you're on 16.04: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=mod_proxy_html&mode=filename&suite=xenial&arch=any
[12:51] <ash_workz> tomreyn: actually this is a container of... um
[12:51] <tomreyn> ash_workz: i do not understand, what is "... um"?
[12:51] <ash_workz> 12.04
[12:52] <ash_workz> ... um is short for, "hold on, let me look it up/think about it)
[12:52] <tomreyn> ash_workz: package libapache2-mod-proxy-html then
[12:52] <ash_workz> s/\)$/"/
[12:54] <ash_workz> oh wow
[12:54] <ash_workz> dunno how that happened but somehow one of my config files got moved into sites-enabled
[12:55] <ash_workz> tomreyn: anyway, thanks
[12:55] <SuperWangCC> why your name is blue
[12:56] <SuperWangCC> why your name is blue
[12:56] <ash_workz> SuperWangCC: something to do with your client?
[12:57] <SuperWangCC> my name color is different of yours
[12:57] <ZoF_> We can't all be blue
[12:57] <Pointblank_1> Hi Is there some gui app I could use for making a simple gui menu calling my bash scripts? e.g. "Pick A, B, C" A a bas script triggering program top, B = a script showing linux version C = a script deleting some folder etc
[12:57] <ash_workz> SuperWangCC: what client are you using?
[12:58] <SuperWangCC> irssi
[12:58] <ash_workz> SuperWangCC: /join #irssi :P
[12:58] <ZoF_> I'm using irssi as well, he's the normal color for me, likely a local setting
[12:58] <SuperWangCC> oh i know
[12:59] <ash_workz> I'm just special I guess ;)
[12:59] <SuperWangCC> i think the irc bot is cool
[13:00] <akik> Pointblank_1: try zenity. i think that can do that
[13:00] <Pointblank_1> Looking at zenity then, ty akik
[13:03] <UbuntuDude> I wondering why charmap not showing the characters https://snag.gy/qWZOL1.jpg
[13:05] <ChiefAlu> hello
[13:06] <mcphail> Pointblank_1: the "usual" way to do that is with the "dialog" command, but it is a bit complex. If you install the package, check out the "menubox" example in /usr/share/doc/dialog/examples
[13:08] <Pointblank_1> mcphail Thank you. I am looking at zenity at this moment but I do not know how to push it to offer me 2 buttons with two options (run script A, or run script B). I can look at dialog yes
[13:08] <misterGautham> yo
[13:09] <ChiefAlu> i have background noise with ubuntu. any ideas what it coud be?
[13:09] <misterGautham> Ex-Chat
[13:11] <Kobbb> hey guys
[13:12] <PA_> Hey
[13:14] <Kobbb> I would like to be able to run a "sudo service SERVICENAME status" command without the sudo command prompting (so I can script it). I know about how I can enable it with /etc/sudoers.d with a NOPASSWD, but I would like to be able to restrict it for a usage of one service. like, not enabling it for the whone /usr/sbin/service but more something like "/usr/sbin/service nginx" command. Is it possible ? It's been 3 times that I break my "sudo" c
[13:14] <Kobbb> ommand trying changes so now I'm asking here hah
[13:16] <Pici> Kobbb: use visudo, and add a line that says:  youruser ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/service SERVICENAME status
[13:16] <Pointblank_1> Does any front end generator for xdialog exist? (For running individual scripts from xdialog)
[13:17] <Pici> Kobbb: where youruser is the user that the user that will be running the command.
[13:17] <Kobbb> Pici, I tried it
[13:17] <Kobbb> without the "status"
[13:17] <Kobbb> it was exactly that :  youruser ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/service SERVICENAME
[13:17] <Kobbb> and it broke my sudo command
[13:18] <Kobbb> lemme try this
[13:18] <Pici> Kobbb: no, you need to all the arguments
[13:18] <Kobbb> (and I'll keep a "sudo -s" shell open, just in case hahah)
[13:18] <Pici> Kobbb: and you need to use visudo to edit the file, it will check for errors and prevent you breaking your sudo command.
[13:18] <Kobbb> Pici, but visudo doesnt edit a /etc/sudoers.d/xxx file
[13:18] <Pici> Kobbb: o
[13:19] <JAWC> Kobbb, the -f switch lets you specify a file.
[13:19] <Pici> Kobbb: the visudo manpage suggests ^
[13:19] <Kobbb> Pici, I just fucking broke it
[13:19] <Kobbb> hahahaha
[13:19] <Kobbb> fukkk
[13:19] <Kobbb> it put a -x
[13:19] <Kobbb> without looking more in the options
[13:19] <Kobbb> haha
[13:20] <Pici> Kobbb: well, that sucks.
[13:20] <Kobbb> i'll be back.
[13:20] <Kobbb> in a sec
[13:20] <Kobbb> haha
[13:20] <Kobbb> I'm used to it
[13:22] <Kobbb> Perfect Pici JAWC
[13:22] <Kobbb> thanks :)
[13:22] <Kobbb> it works
[13:22] <Pici> yay
[13:25] <Pointblank_1> Is there a way how to make a button in zenity assigned to a script to be run? How would look such command? E.g. zenity.sh runs script.sh which will do whoami in console?
[13:27] <adac> Can someone explain me why I cant access this directory as user nagios? I'm out of ideas. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7ab9794901eb07a5d34aa7e4cf86744b
[13:27] <UbuntuDude> Kobbb: you're not allowed to say fuck in this channel
[13:27] <Kobbb> Alright UbuntuDude, sorry for that :')
[13:28] <DexterF> "We train young men to drop fire on people, but their commanders won't allow them to write "fuck" on their airplanes because it's obscene." - Apocalypse Now
[13:30] <gtm110> hello
[13:30] <gtm110> i am a new mate
[13:34] <riqj> hello everyone, I'd like to convert some images from jpg to png, and I found this command: 'mogrify -format png /path/*.jpg'..but when I apply it i constantly get errors saying 'mogrify: unable to open image `*.jpg': No such file or directory @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2712.'
[13:35] <gtm110> here chat or help forum?
[13:35] <uddane> hello, running 16.04 and need to know how to open a .spd file. I know it's from my phone but I really need to pull it to my PC
[13:37] <riqj> sorry, it was an error in typing the extension!! :)
[13:38] <ash_workz> what does `(gedit:3292): Gtk-CRITICAL **: _gtk_widget_captured_event: assertion 'WIDGET_REALIZED_FOR_EVENT (widget, event)' failed` mean?
[13:38] <riqj> I'd like to send some images via email..which image format would be the best not to exceed the max. size of email?
[13:38] <OerHeks> ash_workz, just a message, that happens when you start a gtk program from terminal
[13:38] <OerHeks> ash_workz,  i guess you have seen this often before
[13:39] <ash_workz> a few times, but Gtk-CRITICAL sounds bad
[13:39] <OerHeks> No harm done, why do you start a gtk program from terminal?
[13:42] <riqj> interestingly, a jpg file, which is 5 times the size of its png version, get about 3 times larger than their png versions when zipped together
[13:42] <riqj> ggets*
[13:42] <riqj> gets*
[13:43] <DexterF> riqj: zip alogs do not add any compression to jpg but add their own zip file overhead to it
[13:44] <DexterF> I'm surprised zip could do anything about it at all.
[13:44] <user7823482> hi. i just updated my 16.04 installation, and after a reboot i'm not being asked for my cryptsetup passphrase anymore. i tried booting the installation system, and chroot into my setup to run update-initramfs -k all -c without success
[13:45] <riqj> DexterF, but jpg zips are much smaller than png zips..while the single png and jpg files have the opposite relation to each other
[13:45] <Trel> I'm having an issue getting KVM + webvirtmgr setup.  I have a network card with two ports, and I'm trying to get the second port to function similar to a virtual switch does in Hyper-V  can anyone assist me with how to do that?
[13:45] <Trel> (it's Ubuntu server, so I have the webvirtmgr GUI and command line)
[13:45] <user7823482> i'd really like to avoid reinstalling
[13:46] <riqj> the reason why I tried to zip was to fit them to the allowed email size..but it doesnt help anyway..could you recommend me any other format that suits?
[13:47] <DexterF> riqj: png with higher compression. but really, I'd rather upload the image to an ftp and mail the link. or tell the receiver to up their game ;)
[13:47] <DexterF> riqj: or jpg with higher compression, but that's gonna get ugly at 1:35 and above. use gimp for a preview I'd say
[13:47] <riqj> DexterF, I see, yes, maybe ftp..thank you very much! :)
[13:48] <DexterF> riqj: split with rar and mail part by part :D
[13:48] <riqj> DexterF, too tedious for both sides :))
[13:49] <DexterF> riqj: I nkow :) for curiosity's sake, what's the image size and the mailserver limit?
[13:49] <riqj> DexterF, oh, it's gmail: 25MB!
[13:49] <riqj> image sizes are about 15-17MB
[13:49] <riqj> png
[13:50] <user7823482> my issues is basically the same as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/1500751
[13:51] <DexterF> gmail only takes 25MB these days? interesting. uploading to a one-click-hoster as an uncompressed archive comes to mind, too. download takes a while with a free account, but works well otherwise. would encrypt the archive if intellectual property liek copyright on the images is involved, tho.  I'd do that on gmail, too, their licence basically says "anything you sen via our services we can exploit as we plesae"
[13:52] <DexterF> user7823482: can you not enter it or does it not ask you in the first place?
[13:56] <user7823482> DexterF: doesn't ask in the first place with 4.4.0-36-generic
[13:56] <user7823482> i managed to install 4.4.0-34 from chroot. that one works
[13:56] <user7823482> but now lightdm logs me out immedieately after entering my user password
[13:58] <DexterF> user7823482: that's different from the bug. did you keep the previous kernel or can you crypt-mount your volumes from a live cd/usbdrive?
[14:01] <user7823482> DexterF: i managed to cryptmount from the live image, install the old kernel, and the boot said old kernel
[14:01] <user7823482> *then
[14:03] <BluesKaj> I have an odd situation, my android phone recognizes the samsung 64GB microSDXC UHS-1 card, but my kubuntu pcs do not, both in usb and SD readers...any ideas ?
[14:05] <mcphail> BluesKaj: do you need to install the exfat driver?
[14:06] <genii> BluesKaj: This might also be limitation of the hardware which is trying to read it. I have the same problem with cards over 32G being read on my laptop because the hardware only knows about ones up to that size
[14:07] <BluesKaj> mcphail, exfat-utils is installed
[14:08] <DexterF> user7823482: kernel bug perhaps. would file a report.
[14:08] <BluesKaj> genii, I suspected that was the case , however why does the 64Gb  usb stick show up immediately....?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> oh , for big usb connected outboards...right
[14:10] <grauzikas> hello,
[14:10] <BluesKaj> guess a 64GB microsd card wasn't such a good idea then  :/
[14:10] <grauzikas> i have a problem with ubuntu servers, i have an KVM dell 2161DS-2 and when i`m installing on a server ubuntu OS i cant see video
[14:10] <genii> BluesKaj: USB storage devices don't have any set size limit. But SD cards previously were limited to 4G, then 16, then 32. So some readfers if older can only read media up to the size that was known when they were built
[14:10] <grauzikas> i think may be this is resolution problem or something like it
[14:11] <grauzikas> i can see KVM until grub (grub excluded)
[14:12] <BluesKaj> yeah, I realized that about the usb as soon as i posted ,,, wonder if there are any workarounds for this
[14:12] <Trel> I uninstalled novnc, but I can't find the service listed, anyone have any clue?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> genii,^
[14:12] <Trel> *installed, not uninstalled
[14:14] <grauzikas> with other OS like centos/debian it works normaly
[14:15] <Slawek> Zawołaj na priv. Jak będe to odpiszę.
[14:15] <Pici> !pl
[14:17] <OerHeks> grauzikas, not sure what videocard you have, but nomodeset can solve such issues
[14:17] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[14:17] <tomreyn> grauzikas: what is a "KVM dell"? is that a dell server with keyboard video and mouse, or a dell server with qemu-kvm installed?
[14:18] <grauzikas> it is dell kvm what have 16 rj45 ports and in server side there is SIP`s
[14:18] <grauzikas> then via web browser you connecting to KVM and it forwarding you to specific SIP
[14:19] <grauzikas> home computer -> dell kvm works via java
[14:19] <tomreyn> oh the 2161DS-2 is a console switch, not a server, sorry i didnt get that
[14:20] <grauzikas> i have found on internet that server does not know what display options to use
[14:20] <OerHeks> Trel, novnc is not in our repos, do they have a manual at all?
[14:21] <OerHeks> oh wait, it is. man novnc
[14:25] <grauzikas> also i have found difference between debian and ubuntu
[14:25] <grauzikas> http://pastebin.com/ApyXUads
[14:25] <grauzikas> may be remooving:
[14:25] <grauzikas>  if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then
[14:25] <grauzikas>     insmod all_video
[14:25] <grauzikas>   else
[14:25] <grauzikas>   fi
[14:25] <grauzikas> will help?
[14:33] <samba35> how to i check how much memory is consumed by which application ,i have 4 gb ram out of which around 2.5 gb is consumed (where 2.5 memory is used ?)
[14:34] <aki> samba35: top or htop in a terminal
[14:34] <Gamosh> hi
[14:35] <Gamosh> people don't talk here?
[14:35] <samba35> ok
[14:41] <ogra_> samba35, htop is pretty accurate
[14:41] <ogra_> look at the "RES" for an app
[14:41] <samba35> ok
[14:42] <samba35> thanks
[14:48] <Tims_Tech> my pc is stuck on Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu3) ... for 5 minutes :(
[14:48] <Tims_Tech> when I did sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:49] <ash_workz> there wouldn't happen to be anyway to see the most recently closed program?
[14:49] <Tims_Tech> ?
[14:50] <OerHeks> Tims_Tech, yakety ?
[14:51] <ash_workz> Tims_Tech: maybe ^C and try again? 😅
[14:51] <OerHeks> !ubuntu+1
[14:51] <Tims_Tech> ok
[14:51] <Tims_Tech> OerHeks, yes
[14:52] <OerHeks> join #ubuntu+1 for that
[14:53] <Tims_Tech> oops
[14:53] <Tims_Tech> readt to fast
[14:54] <Tims_Tech> I have ubuntu 16.04 64-bit
[14:55] <OerHeks> Tims_Tech, for xenial it is in proposed?
[14:56] <OerHeks> sort of testing too..
[14:56] <Tims_Tech> I don't have any other desktops other then default
[14:56] <ogra_> you should never run proposed unless a developer asked you to for testing a package
[14:57] <wam> Hi, I have a USB device which registeres under /dev/input/by_id as a usb HID keyboard. Now I have a software which searches for the word "barcode" in that string, which is not there. Can I change the device's ID by some udev rule?
[14:57] <Tims_Tech> ogra_, ?
[14:57] <Tims_Tech> I just use it as my main os
[14:58] <OerHeks> I was just checking if you enabled proposed?
[14:58] <Tims_Tech> what is that?
[14:58] <Tims_Tech> I will reboot
[14:58] <Tims_Tech> hold on
[14:59] <ogra_> Tims_Tech, oh, sorry, i was a bit mis-led by OerHeks askign about proposed ... i thought you had it enabled
[14:59] <OerHeks> !info libc-bin
[14:59] <OerHeks> maybe not indeed..
[14:59] <ogra_> yeah, not in proposed :)
[15:00] <ogra_> libc-bin's postinst regenerates the initrd from its hooks though
[15:00] <ogra_> that can indeed take a while
[15:03] <_0xbadc0de> hi guys
[15:04] <_0xbadc0de> how can I configure routing on my ubuntu server
[15:04] <_0xbadc0de> so that other machines on vbox can connect to the outside world using it as router
[15:05] <joe3> _0xbadc0de: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[15:07] <adamc> hey guys what's a good Torrent app for ubuntu utserver doesn't wanna work for me any more :(
[15:07] <mikeymop> anyone use the windows subsytem here?
[15:07] <nzxtm> i use q bittorrent
[15:07] <joe3> adamc: check our rutorrent
[15:07] <r1nt3c> me too
[15:08] <nzxtm> shit forgot about mr robot!
[15:08] <mikeymop> oh thanks!
[15:08] <mikeymop> i have to grab the new episode
[15:08] <mikeymop> haven't foudn 1080p copes of s2 yet :/
[15:08] <adamc> actually there's one that comes wtih it transmission has a built in webserver ver too! :) sweet that makes it easy for me to DL torrents @ work
[15:09] <xangua> nzxtm: why does Elliot uses utorrent? :-(
[15:09] <lapyo> you need μtorrent to hack fbi duh
[15:11] <mikeymop> i had a bad time trying to use transmission-cli
[15:18] <guest2467> Hello guys, my touchpad has stopped working. When I type synclient -l in console I get this error message: "Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"
[15:35] <ZoF_> hello
[15:35] <maxcell_> I calibrate my monitor with Nvidia-Settings and, sometimes (everyday), out of nowhere the Ubuntu restart the configuration to the default mode while im using the desktop (Unity) not any program in specific. Out of nowhere my monitor becomes bright as hell.
[15:35] <ZoF_> Can anyone tell me why 75% of the time I ssh into an ubuntu box vi is completely unusable
[15:36] <SwedeMike> ZoF_: please elaborate on "completely unusable"
[15:36] <gr33n3r2> ZoF_, what happens the other 25%?
[15:36] <guest2467> my touchpad has stopped working. When I type synclient -l in console I get this error message: "Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"
[15:36] <ZoF_> Things work, and by completely unusable I mean that I can't backspace without wierd ascii printing off or formatting for that line breaking
[15:37] <fdcesco1_> buon giorno
[15:37] <ducasse> ZoF_: where/what are you ssh'ing in from?
[15:37] <ZoF_> I've just started using nano, just so odd, it's a good portion of the reason I use mostly centOS
[15:38] <ZoF_> From a jumphost
[15:38] <SwedeMike> ZoF_: are you aware of the vi(m) modes as described in https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Learning_the_vi_Editor/Vim/Modes ... vim kind of blurs them so it's not obvious.
[15:39] <maxcell_> I calibrate my monitor with Nvidia-Settings and, sometimes (everyday), out of nowhere the Ubuntu restart the configuration to the default mode while im using the desktop (Unity) not any program in specific. Out of nowhere my monitor becomes bright as hell.
[15:39] <Tims_Tech> great
[15:40] <Tims_Tech> all my installations via apt-get install/update/upgrade are stuck on 'setting up'
[15:40] <Tims_Tech> I mean: Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu3) ...
[15:40] <ZoF_> SwedeMike: No I was not, thanks!
[15:40] <Tims_Tech> how to fix?
[15:41] <Bashing-om> !info libc-bin
[15:41] <sebbu> hi
[15:42] <sebbu> i just installed ubuntu 16.04 from mini amd64
[15:42] <Tims_Tech> Bashing-om, damnit
[15:42] <sebbu> in virtualbox
[15:42] <Bashing-om> Tims_Tech: ' sudo apt install --reinstall libc-bin ' give any additional hints ?
[15:42] <Tims_Tech> ow lemme try
[15:42] <sebbu> but when i try to shut down, it freeze after "Reached target shutdown."
[15:42] <sebbu> (yes i disabled splash screen)
[15:43] <Tims_Tech> lol
[15:43] <Tims_Tech> why?
[15:43] <sebbu> 1) i don't like splash screen
[15:43] <sebbu> 2) i want to know why it doesn't shut down correctly
[15:43] <Tims_Tech> Bashing-om, now it is stuck on Setting up libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu3) ...
[15:43] <Tims_Tech> :(
[15:44] <Tims_Tech> I am out of ideas now
[15:44] <Bashing-om> Tims_Tech: Ouch, that is UNgood . a critical system file. Show us - in a pastebin - ' sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade ' .
[15:45] <Tims_Tech> I will pastebin it
[15:46] <Tims_Tech> Bashing-om, now it is stuck on Fetched 1602 kB in 2s (534 kB/s)
[15:46] <Tims_Tech> does not seem good :(
[15:46] <k1l_> stuck? or is it just computing for some seconds?
[15:46] <Tims_Tech> stuck
[15:46] <Tims_Tech> normally it takes like 5 seconds to do that
[15:46] <Tims_Tech> and with stuck I mean
[15:47] <Tims_Tech> it tries to do the lib c thing
[15:47] <k1l_> yeah, but somtimes it takes 30seconds.
[15:47] <Tims_Tech> but the lib c thing is corrupt now
[15:47] <Tims_Tech> :(
[15:47] <_0xbadc0de> msg NickServ identify _0xbadc0de c4n1h4Zpu55Y
[15:47] <Tims_Tech> lol
[15:47] <Cryptic_> anylol
[15:48] <WaV> lol!
[15:48] <Cryptic_> anybody with Python 3 able to help me real quick?
[15:48] <Tims_Tech> so now my lib c is corrupt, how should I repair it?
[15:49] <Tims_Tech> I am trying sudo apt -f install libc-bin
[15:49] <Tims_Tech>  now
[15:49] <Tims_Tech> whoa
[15:49] <Pici> Cryptic_: Whats up?
[15:50] <Tims_Tech> ow no
[15:50] <Tims_Tech> :(
[15:50] <Tims_Tech> I am making my ubuntu more corrupt now
[15:50] <UbuntuDude> Can anyone tell, why charmap in xenial obfusfcating the characters https://snag.gy/qWZOL1.jpg
[15:50] <Cryptic_> pici:  https://github.com/MadeByCryptic/Cryptic_Emailer would you be able to test CrypticEmailerPy3.py and do option 4 (ThrowAwayEmail) Thank you if you can
[15:50] <ducasse> Tims_Tech: a corrupt libc is very hard to fix
[15:50] <Tims_Tech> now it is stuck on : Hit:7 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease
[15:50] <Tims_Tech> ugh
[15:50] <Tims_Tech> :(
[15:50] <Jordan_U> _0xbadc0de: Change your password. And in the future, configure your client to identify at startup automatically, or at least only make such /msg in the server tab.
[15:51] <Tims_Tech> ducasse, so how to fix it then?, I would love to see it working again :(
[15:51] <guest2467> my touchpad has stopped working. When I type synclient -l in console I get this error message: "Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"
[15:52] <Tims_Tech> guest2467, install drivers then
[15:52] <k1l_> Tims_Tech: what it the output? can you pastebin that?
[15:52] <Tims_Tech> from what exactly? k1l_ ?
[15:52] <ZoF_> Alright, so 95% of the time I use vi it's simple config file editing, I navigate to the line I want to edit and 's' to start editing there. In CentOS/Arch/SUSE the functionality is different. In ubuntu when I backspace at the begining of a line I don't go up to the previous one, also when I backspace character presentation of that line in the shell is different from what is actually saved
[15:52] <k1l_> Tims_Tech: from what you are doing there
[15:53] <Tims_Tech> ow ok
[15:53] <Tims_Tech> http://pastebin.com/T1RMd7VV k1l_
[15:53] <Tims_Tech> it is stuck there for 7 min now
[15:53] <Pici> Cryptic_: you still have a print statement on line 90
[15:54] <enon> on lubuntu 16.04 I get an "Error: Timeout was reached" which according to askubuntu.com/questions/775224 is related to appstream which per synapptic is not installed . do I need to install appstream?
[15:54] <k1l_> Tims_Tech: can you show the output of the apt install -f?
[15:54] <Tims_Tech> ok
[15:54] <ZoF_> also arrow keys don't work for navigation when in insert mode
[15:54] <Pici> Cryptic_: fixing that, it works. (had to install python-guerrillamail in this venv though)
[15:54] <Pici> Cryptic_: also, in the future, #python exists :)
[15:55] <Tims_Tech> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/Dnixjs6p
[15:55] <gr33n3r2> ZoF_, I don't think plain old vi supports arrow keys in INSERT mode - you have to use hjkl
[15:55] <k1l_> Tims_Tech: are you sure that machine is just not very low at all?
[15:55] <Tims_Tech> my machine is not slow k1l_
[15:55] <Cryptic_> Thank you & I asked in #Python but nobody answered me lol
[15:56] <Tims_Tech> k1l_, specs: dual core 3 ghz and 4gb of ram
[15:57] <samba35>  when i run systemctl list-dependencies some services are showing with red button /icon is that mean is that services not running  ? on ubuntu 16.04.1
[15:57] <k1l_> Tims_Tech: from this it looks like there is no issue with any updates or packages
[15:57] <Bashing-om> Tims_Tech: On the Inrelease advisory .., any joy with ' sudo apt-key update  ' ?
[15:58] <Tims_Tech> k1l_, I know but when I try to install/update/upgrade the system it is stuck because c lib is corrupt I think
[15:58] <k1l_> is it corrupt?
[15:58] <Tims_Tech> I think
[15:59] <guest2467> my touchpad has stopped working. When I type synclient -l in console I get this error message: "Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"
[15:59] <Tims_Tech> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/JbDDPMn1
[15:59] <ducasse> guest2467: have you tried restarting your x server?
[16:00] <_0xbadc0de> in order to make my ubuntu server serve as router to other vms (it is also a vm)
[16:00] <k1l_> Tims_Tech: let the update run a bit
[16:00] <_0xbadc0de> I should make it a dhcp server right?
[16:00] <Tims_Tech> k1l_, ok I give it 5 minutes
[16:00] <_0xbadc0de> so I should  isc-dhcp-server
[16:01] <_0xbadc0de> but how can I configure t
[16:01] <Tims_Tech> k1l_, ugh, still on the same, takes wayyyyyy to long
[16:02] <k1l_> Tims_Tech: you waited like 10 seconds
[16:02] <Tims_Tech> yes ik
[16:02] <Tims_Tech> :P
[16:02] <Tims_Tech> I am impatient, sorry
[16:02] <k1l_> let it run till the end. if you shut it down all the time it doesnt help
[16:02] <Tims_Tech> ok
[16:03] <Bashing-om> Tims_Tech: k1l_ OUCH ! " http://download.mono-project.com/repo/debian " A debian - nonubuntu repo ??
[16:03] <Cryptic_> pici: sorry, what is line 90? I'm using the nano editor thing, I'm guessing its the line that actually prints the email?
[16:03] <Tims_Tech> Bashing-om, where di you get that ,and how does this affect my situation?
[16:04] <Pici> Cryptic_: yes
[16:06] <oualid> hi
[16:06] <gr33n3r2> Cryptic_, yeah parentheses missing on line 90: print session.get_session_state()['email_address']
[16:07] <Bashing-om> Tims_Tech: well.. Lots I do not know . we can not know what debian is doing .. what it's dependencies may be . the " mono-project.com/repo/debian " from your last paste line 15 .
[16:07] <oualid> hi
[16:08] <Tims_Tech> Bashing-om, ok
[16:08] <Tims_Tech> :P
[16:08] <ducasse> Bashing-om: i've often seen that on 3d party repos that are intended for both ubuntu and debian
[16:08] <Cryptic_> ah, how is that fixed? since its all the .session stuff, do I literally just put brackets around it like a normal print() ?
[16:09] <Cryptic_> pici: like this? print(session.get_session_state()['email_address'])
[16:09] <Tims_Tech> ubuntu is debian based so it should now be a problem whatsoever Bashing-om
[16:09] <Bashing-om> Tims_Tech: As a thought .. waht returns ' apt-cache policy libc-bin ' ?
[16:09] <Pici> Cryptic_: yep
[16:10] <Tims_Tech> Bashing-om,  500 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Packages
[16:10] <k1l_> Tims_Tech: ubuntu and debian dont share the same package versions and depencies. so its a problem, yes.
[16:11] <Tims_Tech> :P
[16:11] <k1l_> Tims_Tech: so your mirror is slow/dead. try to change to the mainservers or another mirror
[16:11] <Tims_Tech> wait
[16:11] <Tims_Tech> wait
[16:11] <Tims_Tech> lib c works now
[16:11] <Tims_Tech> now the next problem: Processing triggers for menu (2.1.47ubuntu1) ...
[16:11] <Tims_Tech> I will let it run :P
[16:11] <Tims_Tech> and hope
[16:12] <Bashing-om> Tims_Tech: Well, that is the correct source for libc-bin . Di not know what else to advise to resolve the problem . Messing about with a system file kinda concerned that we may break the system even more .
[16:13] <k1l_> Tims_Tech: better to go and get dinner instead of repeating the task over and over again and stopping it half way :)
[16:14] <Tims_Tech> :P
[16:14] <Tims_Tech> I am very impatient, is probably my autism I think :P
[16:16] <Bashing-om> Tims_Tech: One cup strong black coffe .. then see what is .
[16:17] <Tims_Tech> Bashing-om, lol
[16:19] <Bashing-om> Tims_Tech: Gotta be away for a spell . I will return by the time you finish 2 cups .
[16:19] <Tims_Tech> is this the last message of any install?: Processing triggers for menu (2.1.47ubuntu1) ...
[16:19] <Tims_Tech> it is done
[16:19] <Tims_Tech> and that was the last one
[16:20] <Tims_Tech> OMG
[16:20] <Tims_Tech> it works again
[16:20] <Tims_Tech> :D
[16:20] <Tims_Tech> thanks guys
[16:23] <jl_> test
[16:26] <jl_> anyone can help to set up my own channel?
[16:27] <Tims_Tech> jl_, for what/
[16:27] <lapyo> /join #channel_name
[16:27] <jl_> think i read that u can have a Q bot
[16:27] <jl_> just for testing
[16:27] <lapyo> quakenet has Q bot
[16:28] <jl_> how does i add it to my channel?
[16:28] <lapyo> /join #help
[16:28] <lapyo> on qnet ofc
[16:28] <jl_> alright thanks
[16:29] <jl_> exit
[16:32] <r1nt3c> are you japanese kazuto?
[16:32] <Guest64258> Does anyone run kernel 4.7.3? whats the downside?
[16:36] <_0xbadc0de> so I have installed a dhcp server on my ubuntu machine
[16:36] <_0xbadc0de> how can I turn it into a router on vbox?
[16:36] <nacc> Guest64258: well, it's not supported here
[16:36] <_0xbadc0de> like make my other machine (windows xp) connect to inet through it
[16:36] <nacc> Guest64258: or by Ubuntu itself
[16:37] <nacc> _0xbadc0de: how do you make a router?
[16:37] <adamc> _0xbadc0de windows XP on inet = very bad for security it should be offline or upraded.
[16:38] <_0xbadc0de> listen
[16:38] <_0xbadc0de> why the fuck
[16:39] <_0xbadc0de> does everyone tells me what I should and should not use
[16:39] <_0xbadc0de> just fucking mind your own business and go straight to the point
[16:39] <rogo> Hallo. Before I do something stupid again: is it safe to Clean these: http://pasteboard.co/6Fe1ojIl.png        ?
[16:39] <_0xbadc0de> if you can help answer, if you can't don't throw wild guesses into what I am or am not doing
[16:40] <nacc> !language | _0xbadc0de
[16:40] <ghostZero> Is someone telling you what software to use?
[16:41] <nacc> rogo: it's hard to say from the descriptions (I'm more used to looking at the package names). But they all seem related to compilation (c++)
[16:41] <UbuntuDude> Can anyone tell, why charmap in xenial obfusfcating the characters https://snag.gy/qWZOL1.jpg
[16:42] <Kazuto> r1nt3c: I am not. The origin of this name is however.
[16:42] <genii> rogo: Yes, all those packages are safe to remove, not essential to operate.
[16:43] <rogo> thx. I removed already some old kernels like usual
[16:45] <XaroRSA> How can I close a application?
[16:45] <XaroRSA> I can see a golang application running on port 80
[16:45] <XaroRSA> how can i kill it?
[16:45] <ghostZero> tried system monitor?
[16:45] <nacc> XaroRSA: do you know the pid? or the name of the application?
[16:45] <XaroRSA> yeah i can see it
[16:46] <genii> !ics | _0xbadc0de
[16:46] <A[D]minS> !install Ubuntu beside Windows 8 while UEFI is enabled
[16:46] <XaroRSA> how can i view all running applications?
[16:46] <A[D]minS> LOL make sense ubottu
[16:46] <nacc> XaroRSA: `ps aux`
[16:46] <A[D]minS> !EUFI
[16:46] <XaroRSA> ooo wow
[16:47] <XaroRSA> what does ps aux stand for?
[16:47] <XaroRSA> processes auxilary?
[16:47] <A[D]minS> Guys, any straight forward Guide for howto install Ubuntu while EUFI boot mode is enabled ? and to be doual boot with Win8
[16:47] <_0xbadc0de> no I just want my ubuntu machine to serve as router
[16:47] <Pici> XaroRSA: a u and x are each separate arguments. see man ps for details.
[16:48] <nacc> _0xbadc0de: which is what I asked you and you started cursing :)
[16:48] <lapyo> 'ello, I'm running latest lubuntu, I'm using tmux over ssh which has a screened irssi on it, but whenever I try to open a link from irssi, xdg-open just hangs in the background
[16:48] <lapyo> also, xdg-open <URL> does nothing
[16:48] <_0xbadc0de> so all I did was to set up a dhcp3 server in this machine
[16:49] <_0xbadc0de> and now I have also set in vbox a internal network called vbox_ubuntu
[16:49] <_0xbadc0de> and I did the same for xp
[16:49] <_0xbadc0de> so I am hoping xp can automatically get an ip from ubuntu box
[16:49] <lapyo> idk if it's because of that tmux session from my other PC, but xdg-open works locally
[16:49] <_0xbadc0de> this is my masterplan atm
[16:49] <_0xbadc0de> but I am pretty sure it will fail
[16:50] <lapyo> anyone?
[16:51] <nacc> lapyo: is it opening it remotely, then? (you might be able to see it in ps if so)
[16:51] <genii> _0xbadc0de: There might be more knowledgable people on how to use a vbox instance as a proxy in the #ubuntu-server channel
[16:51] <lapyo> nope
[16:51] <ghostZero> anyone notice thunderbird is out of date?'
[16:52] <lapyo> nacc: htop shows the process on my client machine(this PC), but it just uses CPU and does nothing
[16:52] <Bashing-om> lapyo: The guys in #irssi might know the more .
[16:52] <nacc> lapyo: ah ok
[16:52] <nacc> ghostZero: in what regard?
[16:52] <lapyo> it's not irssi problem, I can't open any links from terminal
[16:52] <lapyo> idk why I mentioned irssi and tmux tho :D
[16:52] <nacc> lapyo: even locally?
[16:53] <nacc> lapyo: or only over ssh?
[16:53] <lapyo> I can try to open a link locally, just a sec
[16:53] <nacc> lapyo: would be a good sanity check that terminal is able to open links generically
[16:53] <ghostZero> nacc: there appears to be a newer version with security fixes
[16:53] <nacc> ghostZero: security fixes get backportd by the ubuntu security team
[16:53] <lapyo> nacc: doesn't work locally either
[16:54] <nacc> ghostZero: they don't update the version in publisehd releases
[16:54] <lapyo> process opens but it just hangs in there
[16:54] <nacc> lapyo: ah that's the thing to debug then :)
[16:54] <lapyo> I never changed any terminal/xdg* -settings
[16:54] <lapyo> I guess reboot would fix this
[16:59] <Bashing-om> lapyo: ' ping -c3 8.8.8.8 ; ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' has positive results ?
[17:00] <lapyo> Bashing-om: yup
[17:00] <Bashing-om> lapyo: Well ,, not a DNS issue . must be a config thing - somewhere .
[17:01] <lapyo> yeh, I'm quite sure it's a local problem
[17:02] <lapyo> if I remember correctly, it started dysfunctioning after installing some updates
[17:02] <lapyo> but it just might be a coincidence
[17:07] <Bashing-om> lapyo: A thought ' cat .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list ' is your web browser listed ?
[17:08] <lapyo> apparently not :o
[17:08] <lapyo> weird
[17:08] <lapyo> but thanks, this must be the problem
[17:09] <Bashing-om> lapyo: Treadin for me in unknown waters . my file ( xfce4 ) : http://termbin.com/v68h  for comparison .
[17:10] <lapyo> should I use some application to change that or is a simple vim change enough?
[17:10] <lapyo> I've never changed those before so I have no clue
[17:10] <Bashing-om> lapyo: Ya got the better of me .. my xdg-open skills are weak !
[17:11] <lapyo> yeah, but thanks a lot anyway, I think I'll be able to fix this somehow now
[17:12] <Bashing-om> lapyo: Be aware that lubuntu runs lightdm as the diplay manager .. might have a bearing .
[17:13] <Bashing-om> display*
[17:14] <lapyo> yeah
[17:14] <Tims_Tech> my Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu3) ... is stuck again :(
[17:14] <OerHeks> Tims_Tech,  libc-bin can take a while..
[17:15] <lapyo> I ran this command ' xdg-settings set default-web-browser firefox.desktop ' which I found from askubuntu.com, but the same thing happens to it, it just hangs and uses CPU but nothing happens
[17:15] <Bashing-om> lapyo: However if the file .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list exists . I would expect the browser to be declared .
[17:16] <lapyo> maybe I should just reboot this and see if it works
[17:17] <ducasse> lapyo: what does /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser point to?
[17:19] <yancho> hi :) isn't tee -i supposed to wait for your Control+C and exits gracefully, thus still saving the stream to the file? I'm doing  sudo slapd -d -1 | tee -i -a slapd.log but the log is empty
[17:21] <estacio08> k
[17:25] <lapyo> ducasse: it opens dillo browser
[17:26] <ducasse> lapyo: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[17:26] <Bashing-om> lapyo: ducasse ' sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser ' ?? to reset the default ?
[17:28] <lapyo> I did that
[17:28] <lapyo> it still hangs
[17:28] <daum_> hey guys - i just upgraded my ruby version via apt-get however my bundler and gem still see the old version of ruby any ideas how to fix that?
[17:29] <ducasse> daum_: have you installed ruby from source or elsewhere earlier?
[17:29] <daum_> i don't think i did on the system
[17:30] <ducasse> daum_: 'which ruby'
[17:30] <daum_> it's /usr/bin/ruby
[17:30] <daum_> ruby -version shows the most recent version (i also set it via update-alternatives)
[17:31] <fatguy123> hello
[17:31] <ducasse> daum_: i know nothing about ruby, maybe you should try a ruby channel
[17:31] <fatguy123> whats the percentage of ubuntu users in the linux community? sicne its popular
[17:31] <daum_> ok wasn't sure if it was just how i set it up on ubuntu
[17:32] <OerHeks> fatguy123, there are no exact numbers.
[17:32] <Jordan_U> fatguy123: That's hard to say. Also, since this channel is for support questions it's a topic better discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[17:32] <lapyo> no one even knows how many linux machines are out there
[17:32] <Bashing-om> fatguy123: There are no demigraphics, and no way to get any .. All we can say is a bunch .
[17:32] <OerHeks> not downloads, not ip's that update ..
[17:33] <OerHeks> to be safe, say <50% ?
[17:35] <lapyo> Imgur-screenshot.sh uses xdg-open, which works fine
[17:35] <lapyo> really weird
[17:37] <lapyo>  56   open_command="xdg-open %url"
[17:37] <lapyo> from that script
[17:37] <Resa> Can I get help with installing my printer here?  It is showing connection but nothing is being printed.
[17:39] <lapyo> I tried xterm instead of lxterminal
[17:39] <OerHeks> Resa, check printer settings, 1200 dpi might be too high
[17:39] <lapyo> but nothing changed
[17:40] <ducasse> lapyo: you can set the BROWSER env variable
[17:40] <lapyo> ducasse: in the script?
[17:41] <ducasse> lapyo: no, in the shell. some programs respect that, don't know about xdg-open.
[17:42] <lapyo> should I paste the script here?
[17:42] <lapyo> idk if it helps
[17:43] <Resa> Thanks OerHeks!!  I am getting this error message...CUPS server error   There was an HTTP error: status 1000.
[17:43] <lapyo> but it does not seem to do anything else than 'xdg-open %url'
[17:43] <ducasse> lapyo: try setting the variable and run it again first
[17:43] <lapyo> ducasse: how do I make the variable on bash again?
[17:43] <ducasse> lapyo: export BROWSER=$(which firefox)
[17:44] <lapyo> hey, it works!
[17:44] <lapyo> should I just edit the ~/.bashrc or what do you recommend?
[17:45] <ducasse> lapyo: then add that line to your ~/.bashrc so it will work later
[17:45] <lapyo> yeah
[17:45] <lapyo> thank you very much!
[17:46] <ducasse> lapyo: np :)
[17:48] <_0xbadc0de> guys
[17:48] <_0xbadc0de> how can I route in ubuntu server
[17:48] <Aesir>  /set autolog
[17:48] <ducasse> _0xbadc0de: 'man ip-route'
[17:53] <dudeman> i created a launcher on my desktop and it added a .desktop.TS4WNY icon with a lock and an x on it. what do i do?
[17:54] <dudeman> cannot delete or move to trash
[17:55] <dudeman> i created a launcher on my desktop and it added a .desktop.TS4WNY icon with a lock and an x on it. what do i do?
[17:56] <nacc> !patience | dudeman
[17:57] <_0xbadc0de> no
[17:57] <_0xbadc0de> doucasse
[17:57] <_0xbadc0de> I want to know
[17:57] <_0xbadc0de> how I can make ubuntu a router server
[17:57] <_0xbadc0de> so that other machines can connect to it
[17:59] <Guiri> So, in trying to enable passwordless sudo I botched the file with a >>.  Now my user account doesn't have sudo access, so I can't edit or remove the bad /etc/sudoers.d/vagrant file.  Help please
[17:59] <ducasse> _0xbadc0de: connect how? this is a completely different question.
[17:59] <Mr_Pan> _0xbadc0de, ttrz http://www.zeroshell.net/
[17:59] <nacc> _0xbadc0de: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router ?
[17:59] <_0xbadc0de> basically
[18:00] <_0xbadc0de> I just need to make a router
[18:00] <_0xbadc0de> and my router is linux
[18:00] <ducasse> _0xbadc0de: are you talking about level 3 routing?
[18:02] <no_gravity> How can I figure out which wifi driver I am currently using? On the command line I mean.
[18:03] <Bashing-om> Guiri: Try: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo .
[18:04] <Guiri> ty Bashing-om
[18:04] <Bashing-om> no_gravity: sudo lshw -C network. in the configuration line .
[18:04] <nacc> no_gravity: if you can find the PCI device from `lspci`, run `lspci -k -s <domain:bus:slot:func>`
[18:04] <OerHeks> no_gravity, sudo lshw -C network
[18:04] <ayush> hi
[18:04] <Bashing-om> Guiri: Hope that helps :)
[18:06] <no_gravity> Bashing-om: Where is the driver in that output?
[18:07] <nacc> no_gravity: grep for 'driver='
[18:07] <OerHeks> no_gravity, please go on with posting in multiple channels  :-D
[18:07] <nacc> iirc, it's under 'configuration'
[18:07] <Bashing-om> no_gravity: Mine: "  configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too driverversion=0.9.28  " where my driver is ' driver=8139too ' .
[18:07] <no_gravity> nacc: The output of lspci?
[18:08] <Resa> I am getting this error message...CUPS server error   There was an HTTP error: status 1000.
[18:08] <nacc> no_gravity: no, the grep given above is for the `lshw` version
[18:08] <no_gravity> "lspci | grep driver" comes back empty
[18:08] <nacc> no_gravity: lspci just emits it very clearly
[18:08] <nacc> no_gravity: well, because you didn't read what i wrote then :)
[18:08] <nacc> no_gravity: first find the device via lspci
[18:08] <nacc> no_gravity: then run `lspci -k -s <that device's domain:bus:slot:func>`
[18:09] <no_gravity> nacc: this thing? 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 03)
[18:09] <OerHeks> sudo lshw -C network should be enough info
[18:09] <nacc> no_gravity: yes, probably? so you'd run `lspci -k -s 02:00.0`
[18:09] <nacc> but as OerHeks and Bashing-om said, it's also in the lshw output
[18:10] <no_gravity> nacc: "Kernel driver in use: wl"
[18:11] <Resa> Can I get help with installing my printer here?  It is showing connection but nothing is being printed.
[18:11] <Resa> I am getting this error message...CUPS server error   There was an HTTP error: status 1000.
[18:13] <uotzap> Hi, guys
[18:15] <uotzap> I'm installing Kubuntu in dual boot with win 10 and I have Ubuntu in a partition with CSM mode but when I've begun instalation the Ubuntu partition doesn't appears
[18:16] <Bashing-om> uotzap: EFI and CCSM are not compatible . If Windows is UEFI then ubuntu also install as UEFI .
[18:20] <tofutime> Does a LiveUSB have access to the system files on the machine its on?
[18:21] <nedstark> usually it does
[18:21] <nedstark> only way to really stop it is to encrypt the drive
[18:21] <tofutime> well, I am trying to make a backup of my harddrive and copy my personal files to an external
[18:22] <nedstark> a live usb should work for that
[18:22] <tofutime> Its an old Windows 7 laptop, thats running slow.
[18:22] <silvian> yup you can easily do that with a live cd and an external HDD to back your hard drive up
[18:22] <tofutime> yeah, I'd like to use Windows backup restore, but its slow, haha.
[18:22] <silvian> you'll be able to mount and access your entire file system once booted from live cd and the environment is running
[18:22] <tofutime> great. does it save everything? Browsing history and whatnot?
[18:23] <nedstark> you can speed up windows by reinstalling fresh
[18:23] <silvian> its up to you what you want to save
[18:23] <silvian> you have access to the entire drive
[18:23] <tofutime> ah okay, great
[18:23] <linuxperia> Hi Ubuntu Friends. I have a small Problem with dnsmasq and OpenVPN. When i establish a openvpn connection using this command here "nmcli connection up VPN_LOC1S1.UDP" the vpn location is established successfull but i am not able to nslookup any Domain Names. Get always the NSLOOKUP Error Message "server can't find google.com REFUSED" I expected also that dnsmasq would be using the new VPN DNS Adresses but it is still using the localhost IP
[18:23] <linuxperia> Adress from what i see in netstat. Please help me fix this ugly network problem. thanks!
[18:24] <tofutime> I'll find out how to refresh my system, I'm just weary cause of Win10 updates, my hardware won't be able to handle it
[18:24] <uotzap> Bashing-om: so a CSM partition won't show up in a UEFI mode?
[18:24] <tofutime> I'm using Linux Mint right now, but I'll try Ubuntu cause the people here seem more friendly, haha
[18:24] <nedstark> microsoft isn't force upgrading windows 7 anymore, the free upgrade period is over except for the "accessibility user" exception
[18:25] <ducasse> !mint | tofutime
[18:25] <nedstark> the people who use screen magnifier or speech to text or screen reader
[18:25] <silvian> Yeah tofutime the other community forums seem to be less active than Ubuntu
[18:26] <silvian> haha be careful you don't mention the M word here tofutime... otherwise you trigger the automated system :P
[18:27] <tofutime> haha, I saw that I was going to be redirected
[18:27] <silvian> yeah the sentinels get easily triggered
[18:27] <tofutime> I just realized my machine has only 2gb RAM and a 10 year old single core chip....
[18:27] <Bashing-om> UNIcodeX: Correct .. but one can see the partitions with the GUI tool GParted or terminal ' sudo parted -l ' .
[18:27] <nedstark> the mint people is the only forum i've found for cinnamon support
[18:28] <silvian> it should still work... well sluggish but will get the job done
[18:28] <nedstark> although cinnamon is in every major distro now
[18:28] <tofutime> yeah I tried an Ubuntu distro on a liveusb and I couldn't figure out how to navigate
[18:28] <nedstark> unity?
[18:28] <silvian> if you are having trouble with an old system tofutime i may suggest tofutime that you try get one of the old live images of ubuntu such as Ubuntu 10.04
[18:29] <tofutime> I think the laptop I was trying at the time have a large resolution and everything was TINY
[18:29] <silvian> its no longer supported and I don't advise you run it on an every day system
[18:29] <nedstark> ifg you're not familiar with unity, there are other versions of ubuntu with more common desktops
[18:29] <tofutime> I think it was unity
[18:29] <silvian> but to access your files and get the job done Ubuntu 10.04 is extremely light weight with Gnome 2 interface and will not need more than 200MB of RAM
[18:29] <tofutime> yeah! thats what I like about it
[18:30] <nedstark> lubuntu is good as a liveusb too
[18:30] <tofutime> I've got a LIVE m-int, it looked more familiar
[18:30] <tofutime> but I will make a Lubuntu Liveusb now
[18:30] <tofutime> its so great to have a portable OS
[18:30] <xangua> silvian: 10.04 is no longer supported, please don't advice people that
[18:30] <silvian> I just said taht xangua
[18:30] <tofutime> i guess an older version to do something for a backup
[18:30] <nedstark> if you have an ancient pc, puppylinux or porteus would work, there are others too
[18:31] <silvian> I said not to use it for a live or day to day system
[18:31] <tofutime> yeah, I heard ya silvian, thanks
[18:31] <silvian> but if one needs to back up a hard drive of a very old machine that has very low specs as a one time job
[18:31] <silvian> it will do the job
[18:31] <silvian> you're welcome tofutime
[18:31] <Bashing-om> uotzap: " Correct .. but one can see the partitions with the GUI tool GParted or terminal ' sudo parted -l ' . While the mixed install can be made to work ..it is a real pain to change the alternate boot .
[18:31] <nedstark> lubuntu can easily run on anything with more than 512mb ram
[18:32] <silvian> or lubuntu yeah... is that derivative of still well supported netstark?
[18:33] <silvian> actually tofutime lubuntu would be a great option if it still an active distribution
[18:33] <nedstark> yes its fully supported, lxde is still in active development
[18:33] <silvian> awesome :)
[18:33] <silvian> that thing brings ancient computers from the year 2000 back to life :)
[18:33] <Bashing-om> silvian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu .
[18:34] <silvian> sweet cheers
[18:34] <nedstark> ubuntu-mate is also very lightweight
[18:34] <nedstark> its gained a lot of fans lately
[18:34] <tofutime> haha so light
[18:34] <nedstark> its lead is on every podcast i listen to it seems
[18:35] <tofutime> oh, I guess part of the reason I wanted to backup through linux was because I was worried about backing up potential malware or viruses
[18:35] <silvian> what graphical interface does lubuntu come with?
[18:35] <tofutime> I don't know if that is true or not
[18:36] <ducasse> silvian: lxde now, will be lxqt at some point
[18:37] <silvian> well tofutime remember that whatever you put back in an active environment be it Windows or what have you will also restore any saved malware
[18:37] <silvian> which may become active if utilised
[18:37] <Stray_Dillo> I was using LXDE on an old P4 with only 512MB RAM
[18:37] <Stray_Dillo> very light-weight and fast
[18:38] <UNIcodeX> Bashing-om, ??
[18:38] <Bashing-om> silvian: Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware.
[18:39] <silvian> cool cheers Bashin-om I was aware of Lubuntu but I wasn't sure if it was discontinued or not.
[18:39] <Bashing-om> UNIcodeX: Sprry .., wring highlight to you .. appologies .
[18:39] <silvian> I've used it in the past.
[18:39] <UNIcodeX> Bashing-om, no worries. figured as much
[18:39] <uotzap> Bashing-om: thank you
[18:41] <Bashing-om> uotzap: thought you had departed us . My dyslexia getting the better of me .
[18:42] <tofutime> silvian, so how about I backup files, take it to a new computer and scan it with Malwarebytes?
[18:42] <tofutime> or go through each file one by one and save it, haha
[18:42] <silvian> yeah you could
[18:42] <silvian> i always save only what i need really
[18:42] <silvian> i wouldn't worry about browsing history etc
[18:43] <tofutime> ah, it will be a long day
[18:43] <silvian> you'll most likely end up saving cookie history as well which you may not want to do
[18:43] <tofutime> I will take music recommendations now
[18:43] <silvian> that's why google is your best friend
[18:44] <tofutime> people here are knowledgeable too, I appreciate it
[18:45] <silvian> ah yes always play Rob Zombie Dracula when backing up large files.
[18:45] <silvian> :P
[18:45] <SchrodingersScat> tofutime: I just use duplicity to backup my ~ on my local machines.  my server grabs a couple extra places, like /var/www/ and /etc/ etc.
[18:45] <tofutime> i'll look that up right now
[18:46] <tofutime> fun fact: Duplicity is a film with Julia Roberts
[18:46] <tofutime> ah, so it encrypts it
[18:47] <HKitain1> Hi! Anyone with Thunderbird having GMail SMTP problems?
[19:00] <tofutime> is malwarebytes still the best scanner available?
[19:01] <OerHeks> tofutime, malwarebytes on linux??????
[19:01] <nedstark> the best always depends, none of them are 100%
[19:01] <nedstark> its not bad
[19:02] <OerHeks> i think you have the wrong channel, it is a windows thingy
[19:03] <tofutime> haha, I just realized once I couldn't open the malwarebytes.exe file
[19:03] <tofutime> yes oerheks, I'll just google now
[19:05] <nedstark> there aren't many good options for linux on the desktop that aren't a lot more than windows equivalent, except ESET Nod 32
[19:06] <nedstark> most of the free ones were discontinued and the ones left are meant for enterprise systems
[19:06] <OerHeks> clamav works fine, but antivirus is so 1999, a monitoringtool is more helpfull these days
[19:07] <nedstark> they are all getting into anti-exploit because of the phishing
[19:07] <tofutime> ah
[19:07] <nedstark> symantec endpoint is available for linux but not cheap
[19:08] <tofutime> I've found Avast, Bitdefender and AVG in addition to the ones you all mentioned
[19:08] <tofutime> I used ESET once
[19:08] <nedstark> if you dual boot, you can use a windows antivirus to scan your linux drive
[19:09] <nedstark> but you need a driver for ext4
[19:09] <OerHeks> heh, really? ext4 ?
[19:09] <nedstark> yes its out there
[19:09] <OerHeks> fud
[19:09] <tofutime> thats another thing I've been considering for myself Dual booting or VM
[19:09] <tofutime> and then installing an SSD in my new laptop
[19:09] <tofutime> busy time
[19:10] <nedstark> vm's are fine if you are just wanting to run utility programs, office, etc.  dual-booting is better when you're doing it all the time or want to run games
[19:11] <nedstark> the vm's can be a PITA when trying to use external hardware
[19:11] <tofutime> ah no games
[19:12] <tofutime> i'll dual boot
[19:12] <nedstark> you can play 2-d games fine
[19:12] <nedstark> i wouldn't be doing high-res gaming in a vm
[19:15] <riqj> hello everyone, i am getting a dos screen of lines following grub at start. the last line says: 'end Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[19:17] <riqj> found an online solution: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1751574
[19:23] <kholby> I have a new install of 16.04, I have done nothing except join the PC to an AD domain and install a few applications.  The "Browse" button is missing in the Nautilus connect to server dialog.  smb://, sftp://, ftp://, ssh:// all say file server type not recognized.
[19:23] <hwpplayer1> Hi people do you know how to create an iso which only the kernel is Ubuntu based but the rest of the system is modified Debian
[19:24] <jamesw> this bug is yuck: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1528005
[19:25] <danielthebague> anyone know why a kernel update broke the wifi on my 16.04 machine? the wifi card is ralink RT3290
[19:26] <nedstark>  hwpplayer1 this explains how to install a kernel from the ubuntu repos http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/install-linux-kernel-4-6-ubuntu-16-04/
[19:26] <dean-brownee> danielthebague: Did you have to compile your own wifi drivers?
[19:26] <OerHeks> danielthebague, only reason i can think of is that you build the driver yoursel ( and need to do that any kernel update)
[19:26] <dean-brownee> When you installed ubuntu
[19:27] <danielthebague> not sure as the other IT volunteer did the initial instal
[19:27] <danielthebague> i just did a dist-upgrade and it broke
[19:27] <OerHeks> jamesw, is that bugreport still valid for 16.04 with current 4.4.0-36 kernel ?
[19:28] <Guest90363> hi
[19:29] <dean-brownee> danielthebague: http://askubuntu.com/questions/545238/how-to-install-wifi-driver-ralink-rt3290
[19:29] <boriseto> Hey there. Anyone using Intel+AMD combo with radeonsi?
[19:29] <hwpplayer1> nedstark : our kernel and modified debian userspace is ready we only have issues about creating an iso
[19:30] <ducasse> hwpplayer1: try ##linux
[19:30] <scylla> Hi guys, how to install java on ubuntu
[19:30] <dean-brownee> danielthebague: Check out that link. The first answer explains how to download and build the drivers you need. You will probably have to restart after installing
[19:30] <OerHeks> hwpplayer1, ubuntu kernel in debian uberspace is silly, like debian kernel in ubuntu uberspace, good luck with it !
[19:30] <hwpplayer1> ducasse : ok thanks
[19:30] <dean-brownee> scylla: sudo apt install default-jdk for development and sudo apt install default-jre just for the runtime
[19:31] <danielthebague> dean-brownee, . unfr=otunately that didnt work i have googled this already
[19:31] <danielthebague> havent got the machine here now to try and test on it
[19:31] <ducasse> jamesw: not the only problem with that driver, unfortunately, i had to compile my own.
 thanks !
[19:32] <danielthebague> would re-installing 16.0.4.1 and updating still cause the wifi to break
[19:33] <nedstark> hwpplayer1, easiest way is to create an iso from an installed system is to use systemback, explained here http://askubuntu.com/questions/534210/how-to-create-a-iso-from-current-installation
[19:34] <cscf> What's the best way to get a equivalent list of packages to apt-get from tasksel?  I need to translate "tasksel lamp-server^" to a list of packages, and of course I could do it manually but there's probably a better way.
[19:35] <hwpplayer1> nedstark : ok thanks
[19:35] <dean-brownee> danielthebague: It may or may not. If you have rebuilt the driver from that link then perhaps the driver does not support the latest kernel. You could try a different kernel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[19:36] <OerHeks> cscf, easy > tasksel --list
[19:36] <OerHeks> it gives the maetapackage and description
[19:37] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/153265/what-does-the-basic-ubuntu-server-package-contain-in-software-selection-during
[19:37] <Bashing-om> dean-brownee: ' dpkg -L lamp-server ' perhaps ?
[19:38] <danielthebague> dean-brownee, i will try that
[19:39] <cscf> OerHeks, and then " apt show lamp-server^ | grep Packages" ?
[19:39] <dean-brownee> Good Luck :D
[19:41] <OerHeks> cscf, that would do yes
[19:42] <OerHeks> apt show lamp-server^ ( without the grep)
[19:42] <cscf> OerHeks, that prints pages of detail.  I need a package list that I can sed to YAML.  This will work.
[19:44] <nedstark> the default background for ubuntu's cinnamon package is debian 8's logo, hah
[19:52] <riqj> hello everyone, I had this error at start: 'end kernel panic - not syncing: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)', and I found out that I could select another kernel for OS to boot, which it just did. now I follow the recommended solution and it says I can delete old kernels. should I also delete the newer one which gave kernel panic?
[19:54] <ikonia> does it boot with the other kernel ?
[19:55] <riqj> ikonia, yes, it booted with an older kernel
[19:55] <ikonia> what is the old version info and the new/current/broken kernel info
[19:55] <Bashing-om> riqj: Nope. could be that you ran out of space, and the new kernel could not fully install . Make sure you have the operational head room and try and RE-install the newest kernel . maybe .
[19:56] <ikonia> as not being able to find the root file system is a pretty serious error and something that not likley to happen between ubuntu kernels
[19:56] <riqj> just now, I thought about a full upgrade. it is 15.10. system that I mention, and upgrading to 16.04. would possibly solve the kernel problem?
[19:57] <ikonia> no
[19:57] <ikonia> you need to understand the problem
[19:57] <scylla> how to install IntelliJ IDEA on ubuntu
[19:57] <ikonia> kernal (a) from the ubuntu 15.10 repo should work just as well as kernel (b) from 15.10
[19:57] <ikonia> it should certainly be seeing the disk
[19:57] <scylla> or any IDEA
[19:58] <riqj> Bashing-om, about running out of space, there is plenty of space on the disk
[19:58] <ikonia> kernel panic would not be caused by a lack of space
[19:58] <ikonia> reading that error either the boot argument is pointing at the wrong device, or it can't see the device
[19:59] <nedstark> backup data, format and reinstall is usually how to fix weird issues like that unless you're just wanting to learn
[19:59] <riqj> ikonia, the old version says Linux dor3 4.2.0-16-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP..
[19:59] <ikonia> re-install is not the answer to why a kernel upgrade bath can't see a root file system
[19:59] <nacc> nedstark: that's really bad advice for this channel's purposes :)
[20:00] <ikonia> s/bath/path
[20:00] <skulke> hi
[20:00] <riqj> I didnt mean reinstall, but more upgrade
[20:00] <nedstark> if you're at home, tinker away,  if you have a boss and 20 other things to do today, then hit the easy button like i suggest
[20:00] <riqj> the current one has 36 in place of 16
[20:01] <ikonia> riqj: the first thing to do is look at the grub config, and confirm they have the same boot arguments and are pointing at the same device for the root file system
[20:01] <nacc> !info linux-image-generic wily
[20:01] <Bashing-om> riqj: K, but it is partition space not disk space here as a possible issue ; ' df -h ; df -i ' will tell the tale .
[20:01] <ikonia> it is not a space problem
[20:01] <ikonia> a space problem would cause a warning/read only mode
[20:01] <ikonia> not a kernel panic
[20:01] <ikonia> and if it was space, an older kernel would not boot
[20:02] <Bashing-om> ikonia: noted .. thanks .
[20:03] <riqj> Bashing-om, the partition is nearly as large as the disk itself.
[20:03] <porkstore> is ubuntu popular in kashgar
[20:05] <riqj> so can I delete the newest kernel so that I don't have to manually select at every start the second kernel in the list?
[20:06] <nacc> fwiw, the newest kernel in wily, per rmadison, seems to be -42 (not -36)
[20:06] <ikonia> riqj: as I've said, I think you need to understand the problem
[20:06] <ikonia> a kernel minor version bump should not cause the root device to be missing
[20:07] <riqj> ikonia, I cannot follow the methodology you recommended, as I am not advanced to do those checks
[20:07] <ikonia> people in this channel will help
[20:07] <riqj> so where can i start?
[20:08] <ikonia> the grub config thats been built
[20:08] <ikonia> looking at the root device config
[20:08] <riqj> how can I do that?
[20:08] <riqj> I mean look at the root device config?
[20:09] <ikonia> so you should see it in /boot/grub2 in a file called grub.conf
[20:09] <ikonia> you do not edit that file, but it will show you what it's trying to currently boot
[20:09] <n0thing> o
[20:09] <n0thing> hello
[20:10] <n0thing> im new to ubuntu and this is very confusing
[20:10] <riqj> ikonia, I don't have /boot/grub2 but /boot/grub
[20:10] <ikonia> riqj: thats fine
[20:10] <ikonia> look in /boot/grub
[20:11] <nacc> n0thing: what is?
[20:11] <riqj> there I see grub.cfg..is it the file you mean?
[20:11] <nacc> riqj: yes
[20:12] <riqj> ok, I opened the file
[20:13] <nacc> compare the entries in the file for -16 and -36
[20:13] <riqj> how would I proceed now to see what it's trying to boot?
[20:14] <guest2> Can't install NVIDIA driver from geforce.com on ubuntu gnome 16.04. What do I do
[20:14] <ikonia> riqj: you should see a root device option for each kernel line
[20:14] <Osvald> Im here to get some help, who do I talk to?
[20:14] <nacc> !ask | Osvald
[20:14] <riqj> I dont see it, because I dont know what it is
[20:16] <Bashing-om> guest2: What have you done that we must undo prior to ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' ?
[20:16] <riqj> the whole thing is already nothing an outsider can make sense of.
[20:16] <nacc> riqj: what is "it"? if you want run `pastebinit -i grub.cfg` and provide teh resulting URL here
[20:16] <Osvald> Just downloaded ubuntu, worked fine the firsrt 3-4 days. Now each time I log in, my screen goes black, but i still got sound. But when I put my hdmi stick in, the screen comes back. Got no problems on the guest user, besides no internet.
[20:17] <nacc> riqj: you may also want to upgrade to 16.04 generally, becuse 15.10 has been eol for more than a month
[20:18] <nacc> riqj: that wont' necessarily solve this issue, though, to be clear
[20:19] <riqj> nacc, yes, I was telling about trying this at start
[20:23] <riqj> nacc, this is the file: paste.ubuntu.com/23156077
[20:24] <poorUser> hi people, i issued this command: ping -i 2 192.168.1.1 (my router wifi connected), and the mean ping is about 1second, i can guarantee you that is painful to use the pc :(. I tryed to turn off power management and pulse audio too but nothing changed, does anyone of you have an idea?
[20:25] <nacc> riqj: hrm, the conf file seems fine to me
[20:26] <ikonia> poorUser: what do you hope to achieve by pinging the router
[20:27] <poorUser> ikonia: to confine the problem
[20:27] <ikonia> how will ping confine a problem ?
[20:28] <guest2> Bashing-om, Nothing. All I've done is `sudo ./NVIDIA-blahblahblah.run"
[20:28] <guest2> Actually I guess I just have to remove some blacklist from modprobe.d hang on
[20:28] <guest2> k, that's done.
[20:28] <ikonia> the run file will cause you more problems normally
[20:28] <guest2> Bashing-om, some background: literally the only reason nouveau isn't working for me is Steam. Otherwise, I would keep it.
[20:28] <riqj> so what can I do now?
[20:28] <poorUser> looks like it's saying " hey your problem is between your pc and the router " :D same story with its centrino wireless adapter and an usb one
[20:29] <guest2> So if there's some easy way to just get Steam working with 3D on 64-bit Ubuntu GNOME, I'm all for it.
[20:29] <cripcate> hey, what can i do if my wifi icon is bugging? it shows the ethernet symbol
[20:29] <cripcate> it alwys happens after i wake my laptop from suspend, ubuntu 16.05
[20:29] <cripcate> 4*
[20:30] <guest2> cripcate, I'm guessing you don't also have a network cable plugged in?
[20:30] <poorUser> but the router is correctly working because every other device just works
[20:30] <cripcate> guest2, nope
[20:30] <ikonia> poorUser: why do you think there is a problem between your machine and the router
[20:30] <cripcate> wifi working perfectly also
[20:31] <JoshSF> Hey guys, something kind of odd happened to me the other day. Suddenly tap to click stopped working and it's completely disappeared from my Mouse & Touchpad system settings. Any idea what could have caused that or how I could get it back?
[20:31] <poorUser> not in the mediuum of the trasmitted wave, but this lag is painful, i don't know what could cause it
[20:31] <ikonia> what lag
[20:31] <ikonia> "transmitte wave" ???
[20:31] <guest2> wireless?
[20:32] <poorUser> yep
[20:32] <ikonia> what's the actual problem
[20:32] <poorUser> 1 second lag costant
[20:32] <poorUser> even worse sometimes
[20:33] <ikonia> how are you measuring lag ?
[20:33] <ma__rc> guys, what's the benefit of using "apt" over "apt-get"?
[20:33] <poorUser> with ping -i 2 router_address
[20:33] <ikonia> ping will not show you system response time
[20:33] <ikonia> it's just icmp echo
[20:33] <OerHeks> apt is the 16.04 way to be, but apt-get is still valid.
[20:33] <poorUser> yep
[20:34] <ikonia> what do you mean "yep"
[20:34] <poorUser> but since everyother device is working with a normal ping of ms
[20:34] <poorUser> looks like something is wrong in my pc
[20:34] <ikonia> poorUser: just do "ping router_ip" and pastebin the output please
[20:34] <ikonia> drop the -i 2
[20:34] <poorUser> just to have an interval :D
[20:34] <poorUser> to make a continuous measure
[20:35] <ikonia> please just do what I asked
[20:35] <ma__rc> it does the exact same thing, right?
[20:36] <poorUser> yes ikonia the problem is that is random
[20:36] <ikonia> what random ?
[20:36] <OerHeks> ping <adress> # without any option it will continues loop, ctrl c to break
[20:36] <poorUser> now i'll post you a working output
[20:36] <poorUser> i need to wait that the problem arises
[20:37] <poorUser> image the normal output with 1200 ms 800ms etc...
[20:38] <mithos> aha so this is the programm replacing Xchat on 16.04? I couldn't install xchat
[20:38] <riqj> this is not a too critical problem but I dont understand that you suggested a solution and left me in the middle of it
[20:38] <aelh> Hi guys, I am trying to reinstall ubuntu. I am using a live-disk. The option "Erase Ubuntu and reinstall" option tells me it wants to reformat partitions #7 and #9, how can I verify these are the correct partitions? (To clarify, I am unsure how partitions are numbered as it does not correspond to /sda7 /sda9"
[20:38] <code1o6> this is my old machine I want to use it as a sever but it has a really nice video card. So a friend come over I can switch to windows 10 and play games. Then Kali cause I'm taking the OSCP cert and I want a dedicated machine with raw power. Then ubuntu cause I'm a kernel developer. Then ESX to setup a lab to test my exploits
[20:39] <code1o6> I'm trying to create a machine that has vmware esx,ubuntu, windows and kali any tips on how I should partition it. I want ubuntu 100gb, windows 150gb, kali 100gb, and the rest for vmware
[20:39] <ikonia> code1o6: if you're a "kernel developer" you should have a basic understanding of partitioning
[20:39] <ikonia> it sounds very much like the most over the top solution for a basic setup
[20:39] <bekks> code1o6: you are c&p your posts from #vmware :P
[20:40] <OerHeks> aelh, choose 'manual/other ' and you will see the partitioning
[20:40] <OerHeks> and easy return
[20:40] <ikonia> great so spamming freenode channels with the same question too
[20:41] <riqj> so how do i proceed from here, does noone care?
[20:41] <ikonia> from where ?
[20:41] <riqj> from where I came to
[20:41] <riqj> I opened the file
[20:41] <ikonia> I don't know where you came to
[20:41] <riqj> and pasted it
[20:42] <riqj> the link is above
[20:42] <aelh> OerHeks: I have done that but I am unsure how to interpret how the partitions are enumerated?
[20:42] <code1o6> ikonia, I understand partitioning for linux but windows tends todo shitty things and I'm a newb to esx
[20:42] <ikonia> code1o6: no need to swear
[20:42] <bekks> code1o6: And partitioning is always the same.
[20:42] <ikonia> and windows partition model is 1 partition
[20:42] <aelh> OerHeks: I have tried counting the starting partition as 1 and moving down, and like I said it doesn't correspond to the number after /sda either
[20:42] <code1o6> Sorry :(
[20:43] <OerHeks> aelh, then you need to boot in live mode, and see with gparted?
[20:43] <OerHeks> from there you can start the installer too.
[20:43] <aelh> OerHeks : is there an explicit way I can find out exactly which partition #7 and #9 refers to? I have checked gparted too, it looks the same as the ubuntu installer table
[20:44] <riqj> each time the same.
[20:44] <adrian_1908> Hello. Anyone have experience with setting up a per-application firewall? I found some posts about creating a user group for that, but would this work for spawned (known in advance) processes?
[20:44] <OerHeks> but i guess ubuntu is right, re-using your current layout
[20:44] <poorUser> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/ahtrvVkg
[20:44] <gijoe> Hello, is it possible to install Ubuntu completely and run on a USB drive?
[20:44] <aelh> OerHeks: That's what I hope, but I don't want to take chances :P
[20:44] <bekks> gijoe: Yes.
[20:44] <ikonia> poorUser: thats not the output of ping
[20:44] <ikonia> riqj: so thats a clean looking file which is good
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> !persistent | gijoe
[20:44] <aelh> OerHeks: Specifically I think it has gotten the swap partition wrong and is deciding to write over a windows backup instead . . .
[20:44] <riqj> then where is the problem?
[20:44] <OerHeks> aelh, other way to find out is looking in your fstab.
[20:44] <ikonia> riqj: for the "broken" kernel, is there a recovery mode
[20:45] <riqj> there should be a recovery mode in grub, as always, no?
[20:45] <gijoe> Is there away to do it other then persistent?
[20:45] <OerHeks>  cat /etc/fstab
[20:45] <gijoe> I have a 128gb usb drive that i want to use the whole thing for.
[20:45] <aelh> OerHeks: I am currently on the disc version right now, that wouldn't work on the disc version would it?>
[20:45] <ikonia> riqj: the grub menu you select the kernel from should have a "recovery mode" for each kernel
[20:45] <bekks> gijoe: Install it to your attached USB, install the bootloader to the USB, done.
[20:46] <gijoe> I believe i limited to 4gb on a persistent
[20:46] <OerHeks> oh right, stupid me
[20:46] <riqj> yes, there should be one
[20:46] <ikonia> riqj: the menu suggests there is one
[20:46] <ikonia> can you boot that ?
[20:46] <gijoe> I tried doing that and it doesn't boot correctly :(
[20:46] <jzpero> @search wiley poon brown
[20:46] <riqj> yes
[20:46] <gijoe> do you have a guide perhaps?
[20:46] <gijoe> Maybe i am doing something wrong
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> gijoe  something either is or is not persistent
[20:46] <ikonia> riqj: so it will boot the recovery mode for the broken kenrel ?
[20:47] <bekks> gijoe: Start the installer, select the usb as installation target, done.
[20:47] <aelh> OerHeks: Really I just want to understand where the installer gets #7 and #9 from, but I don't understand how it has gotten those numbers?
[20:47] <riqj> ikonia, I haven't checked it yet. rebooting now, and I'll see
[20:48] <riqj> oh, there has been an update running, I forgot. I'll reboot as soon as it is done.
[20:49] <jzpero> @search wiley poon brown
[20:49] <ikonia> jzpero: you've done that - stop it
[20:49] <ikonia> jzpero: what are you looking for
[20:58] <ubuntu-mate> "Upgrade to 16.10>click here<" it said. :( No warnings about it being a pig in a bag. *sigh* At least Ma-Tay is a nicer flavour than vanilla Ubuntu.
[20:58] <k1l_> ubuntu-mate: 16.10 is the actual development release. its unstable
[20:59] <Guest83455> ubuntu-mate It's pretty cool alright but I utterly hate the grub :P
[20:59] <OerHeks> that would normally be not a question, unless you upgrade with the -d option
[21:00] <ubuntu-mate> It got me checking out mate while downgrading at least :) (Installed from GUI and bit a bullet doing so. Lesson learned. Water under the bridge) Mate is pretty impressive. I'll be doing some customization with conky after the system is sorted.
[21:01] <ikonia> while downgrading it ?
[21:01] <k1l_> the internet is full of bad advice videos and blogpost telling people just to use -d switch but not explaining that it will upgrade to a development release.
[21:01] <ikonia> yo ucan't downgrade
[21:01] <ikonia> basically you've forced an upgrade to a pre-release version, and don't like it, now you are under the impression you are somehow downgrading it
[21:01] <ubuntu-mate> Ubuntu 14.10 > 16.10 > OUch! > Ubuntu-Mate 15.10 > Happiness
[21:01] <ikonia> err no
[21:01] <ikonia> thats not what happened
[21:01] <ikonia> it won't jump to a pre-release
[21:02] <ikonia> and you're running an EOL version
[21:02] <ubuntu-mate> Yes. I'll give 16.10 another year before going again. Stable is good.
[21:02] <ikonia> what are you talking about ?
[21:02] <ikonia> you're not on stable
[21:02] <ikonia> you're on EOL
[21:02] <ikonia> and 16.10 is released next month
[21:03] <tgm4883> lol
[21:03] <ikonia> and will be EOL in a year
[21:03] <ubuntu-mate> I'll let someone else have the fun of testing the graphics drivers next month. ;)
[21:03] <tgm4883> go to 16.04 and stay there
[21:03] <ikonia> ubuntu-mate: can you understand the words that are being said to you
[21:03] <ikonia> as you appear to be ignoring what's said to you and just continuing on your miss-informed story
[21:03] <Guest83455> ikonia: I think you are being trolled lol
[21:04] <kholby> Any time I try to access a Windows share in Nautilus, it asks for the username and password over and over.  I know they are correct.  Can anyone help?
[21:04] <ikonia> it certainly looks like that
[21:04] <ubuntu-mate> ? Not intentionally at least. :/ The GUI in 14.10 gave an upgrade option - didn't like the flavour, so rolling back after getting fingers burned. That's all. :/
[21:05] <reisio> kholby: meaning it never accepts them?
[21:05] <ikonia> ubuntu-mate: it won't give that option unless you've told it to upgrade to development versions
[21:05] <tgm4883> ubuntu-mate: if 14.10 upgraded you to 16.10, then you did something purposly wrong
[21:05] <kholby> reisio: Correct.  Type them in, hit enter, it asks again.  Rinse and repeat.
[21:05] <Guest83455> kholby: Try mounting it with sudo mount /dev/sdx /mnt
[21:06] <reisio> kholby: yes, best to debug via terminal first
[21:06] <tgm4883> ubuntu-mate: in any case, going back to 14.10 is a bad solution as well
[21:06] <kholby> It's a Windows share on a remote machine.
[21:06] <ubuntu-mate> However it came up with the suggestion, I clicked and here we are. As said, it's in the past. Forgotten. Mate is AWESOME. Loving it already.
[21:06] <porkstore> anyone know how to make tree view folders show up on the left column in gnome classic file manager
[21:07] <ikonia> ubuntu-mate: you're not listening so I don't see the point of discussing it futher
[21:07] <tgm4883> ubuntu-mate: nobody in this channel believes that, which doesn't matter really because you don't seem to be asking for any help, making your entire contribution to this channel in the last 10 minutes completely off topic
[21:08] <ubuntu-mate> I read Natilus had tree view removed, but Dolphin was recommended instead (unverified)
[21:08] <porkstore> i could use some help
[21:08] <reisio> it's hard to recommend GNOME software to people anymore...
[21:08] <porkstore> yeah i read that too but not about dolphin
[21:08] <ubuntu-mate> OK. Was just testing connectivity. Have a great weekend all!
[21:08] <porkstore> hmmmm
[21:08] <porkstore> whatever dolphin is
[21:08] <reisio> porkstore: gnome classic file manager, what's that?
[21:08] <tgm4883> ubuntu-mate: please do so elsewhere
[21:08] <reisio> ubuntu-mate: y tu
[21:08] <kholby> Okay, mounting it with mount -t cifs works
[21:08] <porkstore> reisio - you seem to be trolling
[21:08] <reisio> kholby: grand
[21:09] <reisio> kholby: do you want them always mounted, then, or only on-demand?
[21:09] <reisio> porkstore: hi
[21:09] <tgm4883> if reisio was trolling, I think that would be a sign on the appocolypse
[21:09] <porkstore> salam
[21:10] <kholby> reisio:  Always mounted would be fine for this particular share, but there are others I would like to mount occasionally.
[21:10] <porkstore> asking a question you more or less already know the answer to just to make some kind of point is trolling
[21:10] <porkstore> so it seems that is what was going on
[21:10] <reisio> tgm4883: agreed
[21:10] <porkstore> which is why i didn't answer directly
[21:10] <reisio> porkstore: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22gnome%20classic%20file%20manager%22
[21:10] <reisio> do you mean GNOME 2's version of Nautilus?
[21:11] <porkstore> i don't click troll links
[21:11] <reisio> hehehe
[21:11] <porkstore> but yeah
[21:11] <reisio> okay, nice talking with you
[21:11] <tgm4883> porkstore: well I legit don't know what "gnome classic file manager" is either
[21:11] <porkstore> yes you do
[21:11] <netmanbug> anyone here know the intricacies of network-manager? i use it to connect to my VPN and my VPN's DNS nameservers just get added to /etc/resolv.conf instead of replacing those of my ISP
[21:11] <reisio> tgm4883: yes you do!
[21:11] <netmanbug> suggested workarounds like disabling dnsmasq or enabling the update-resolv-conf helper script does not work
[21:11] <porkstore> you totally intuited that i was talking about the default file manager in gnome classic
[21:11] <porkstore> so you are actually lying
[21:12] <Guest83455> I think that he means he has gnome 3 installed but it changing the DE to gnome classic at the login screen. As in gnome-fallback in other distros
[21:12] <porkstore> i think they are calling it gnome fall back or something now
[21:12] <porkstore> or throw back
[21:13] <Guest83455> It's the default desktop for cent os :D
[21:13] <tgm4883> porkstore: no, I actually don't know what Gnome Classic is. I thought that was a project that started up after Gnome moved from 2 to 3, but I thought it was discontinued many years ago
[21:13] <reisio> thinking is for people who are willing to have their time wasted while people don't just answer their simple questions :)
[21:13] <k1l_> porkstore: that is still nautilus
[21:13] <porkstore> cool, i don't like the new style looking like my computer is a smart phone
[21:13] <reisio> porkstore: you aren't alone :)
[21:14] <tgm4883> There's cinnamon, which I hear is more like the old gnome 2
[21:14] <porkstore> that's good but the problem is ..
[21:14] <porkstore> since i upgraded ubuntu ..
[21:14] <k1l_> but gnome stipped some features out of nautilus, no matter what desktop is using nautilus.
[21:14] <Guest83455> porkstore You should check out mate, xfce and openbox. They are more traditional desktop envs
[21:14] <porkstore> i can't get tree view on the left hand column of my file manager
[21:14] <kholby> What can I do to debug the Nautilus authentication issue?
[21:14] <reisio> porkstore: if I were you, I would switch to Xfce; it has a _far superior_ history of not betraying its end users
[21:15] <reisio> it also greatly resembles GNOME 2 out of the box
[21:15] <porkstore> Guest83455 - i have seen xfce before but i like gnome classic, should i stop using it ?
[21:15] <reisio> and can easily resemble any DE/configuration
[21:15] <OerHeks> How do i remotely turn off a printer w cups?
[21:15] <k1l_> guys you are discussing  a total different issue.
[21:15] <porkstore> i see
[21:15] <reisio> anything that isn't GNOME 3 is going to suffer from maintenance issues
[21:15] <reisio> any (GNOME) thing, that is
[21:15] <tgm4883> lol
[21:15] <porkstore> yeah i read that some guy just decided to phase out the tree view
[21:15] <reisio> there are many such decisions with GNOME, yeah :/
[21:16] <Guest83455> porkstore Gnome project is doing away with it. Or at least they want to. They only reason they haven't is distro's like cent os and tails still stuck on it.
[21:16] <porkstore> maybe he had to do it
[21:16] <porkstore> since all the cool guys are using xfce, i dont know
[21:16]  * reisio shrugs
[21:17] <Soul_Sample> is there a way to make gnome's tracker/indexer behave? maybe it's becuse I installed gnome on ubuntu, or it's broken overall, but when I search from the gnome's "dash", it takes 20 seconds to find any files, and cpu spikes to 100% on the tracker process "tracker"
[21:17] <reisio> as far as I'm concerned, it _can_ do all the things GNOME 2 & 3 can do, but is more familiar to GNOME 2 users out of the box
[21:17] <reisio> and is very non-awful each update as far as preserving the way things have been
[21:17] <OerHeks> with such rare conditions, i would advise ubuntu-mate
[21:17] <OerHeks> :-D
[21:17] <k1l_> Soul_Sample: usually the tracker once scans the whole system and is then faster to display the results
[21:18] <Soul_Sample> yeah, I left it for about an hour and it stopped now, but is still really slow to find anything
[21:18] <Soul_Sample> applications instantly pop up, but files take forever
[21:18] <twizsted> netmanbug, once again ubuntu "support" channel is shit talking with themselves instead of helping fellow users, is this your problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1211110
[21:18] <porkstore> does this mean that ubuntu itself is not the best distro to be using
[21:18] <tgm4883> porkstore: how would that mean that?
[21:19] <porkstore> i mean why would a cool distro only support desktops that are weird
[21:19] <porkstore> if they want to phase out classic gnome
[21:19] <porkstore> what does that say about ubuntu
[21:19] <k1l_> !ot | porkstore
[21:19] <reisio> I honestly didn't see MATE lasting as long as it has, but the progress of time has only confirmed my initial suspicions: they're having trouble maintaining the code base
[21:19] <tgm4883> oh geez, so much misinformation
[21:19] <reisio> porkstore: it says that ubuntu doesn't maintain that code base, they only build it for end users
[21:19] <tgm4883> reisio: IMHO, they have a "oh new shiny" problem
[21:20] <Guest83455> Get that ubuntu-mate guy back here to tell you how great it is :P
[21:20] <k1l_> porkstore: reisio and others, lets focus on technical support. its unfair for other user seeking technical support if you flood this cahnnel with offtopic
[21:20] <netmanbug> twizsted: 100%, whatever nameservers are in /etc/resolv.conf are used for DNS resolution so after i connect to the vpn, can i simply "sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf" and get rid of my ISP's nameservers?
[21:20] <reisio> distros simply do not have the developers to maintain all the 3rd party software they can make available
[21:20] <reisio> tgm4883: MATE have?
[21:20] <tgm4883> k1l_: +1
[21:20] <tgm4883> reisio: porkstore I suggest we move this to #ubuntu-discuss
[21:20] <tgm4883> reisio: yes
[21:20] <reisio> mmm, sorry not that interested
[21:20] <reisio> :)
[21:21] <tgm4883> reisio: fair enough
[21:22] <OerHeks> Still, i have no slightest idea myself: How do i remotely turn off a printer w cups?
[21:24] <reisio> OerHeks: if you can at all, I'd imagine the webUI would allow it
[21:24] <reisio> save you the trouble of finding a command
[21:26] <guampa> when using an encrypted home directory, is it possible to trigger a bind mount on a directory right after login and cryptmount?
[21:26] <OerHeks> The webui does not give any, just powersaving which does not turn the printer off after x time
[21:27] <reisio> guampa: anything's possible
[21:27] <guampa> reisio: any hints on how?
[21:27] <kholby> Unrelated to my previous question, I have another computer that will not mount over SSHFS any more.  I asked on Stack Exchange but was not able to find a resolution.  Any insight would be appreciated.  http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/299730/unable-to-mount-any-remote-filesystem-using-sshfs
[21:27] <reisio> OerHeks: honestly not something I would naturally expect to be supported, generally
[21:28] <reisio> guampa: is when you start your DE soon enough?
[21:28] <guampa> reisio: it would be a good start
[21:29] <guampa> would be best yet to trigger from when the cryptmount is made
[21:30] <reisio> guampa: okay, I'm not sure exactly where the script for that is, but I'm sure you can find it and modify it
[21:33] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: alive?
[21:33] <porkstore> dolphin seems lame
[21:34] <porkstore> i guess you guys are saying ubuntu-mate is lame
[21:35] <reisio> I don't think it's lame as in uncool or stupid philosophically
[21:35] <reisio> I do think it's lame as in broken and not likely to mend
[21:35] <porkstore> so that's the same uncool about nautilus
[21:35] <reisio> if nautilus is uncool, then MATE's filemanager is old, less well maintained, and still uncool
[21:36] <porkstore> nautilus is nice and clean
[21:36] <reisio> it's actually named 'Files' now
[21:36] <porkstore> dolphin, like other aspects of kde, has a weird feel to it
[21:36] <reisio> please, please don't ask why it is
[21:36] <porkstore> that is a good name
[21:37] <reisio> one can only imagine it's so it's impossible to find documentation online for it
[21:37] <porkstore> that is a good point
[21:37] <reisio> or so explaining how to use it to a novice is impossible
[21:37] <reisio> "now open files"
[21:37] <reisio> "I'm trying to open the files, man"
[21:37] <reisio> "no, open 'files'"
[21:37] <reisio> "...die"
[21:37] <reisio> etc.
[21:37] <apb1963_> The primary thing I like about KDE is that it lets you attach tabs to other tabs.  So you can group windows together essentially.
[21:37] <reisio> not even macOS calls their file manager 'files'
[21:37] <reisio> "finder", as bad a name as it is, is quite specific
[21:38] <reisio> apb1963_: 'bout kwin?
[21:38] <reisio> that always seemed like a nice feature
[21:38] <apb1963_> yes
[21:38] <reisio> can't say I've ever used it, though
[21:38] <guest2> What if you call it Nautilus or Caja or whatever
[21:38] <apb1963_> I use it constantly
[21:38] <reisio> but who cbf to use everything :)
[21:38] <reisio> guest2: world ends
[21:38] <guest2> Heh
[21:38] <reisio> fyi: world just ended
[21:38] <guest2> sheeeit
[21:38] <guest2> my bad
[21:38] <porkstore> sometimes i call it gnome classic file manager
[21:39] <reisio> heh
[21:39]  * reisio flashes back
[21:39] <apb1963_> although I rarely use file managers
[21:39] <reisio> samey same
[21:39] <reisio> too slow
[21:39] <apb1963_> Yes
[21:39] <reisio> I do build systems for normos, though
[21:39] <reisio> and file managers should be usable
[21:39] <reisio> and not awful :p
[21:39] <apb1963_> true
[21:39] <kholby> MC for the win
[21:39] <apb1963_> Yes... midnight commander
[21:39] <reisio> mmm, mc, takes me back to them dos days
[21:40] <reisio> the dirtiest of OSes
[21:40] <apb1963_> Still... MC was a huge advantage
[21:40] <kholby> I love MC.  Use it frequently on my personal server.
[21:40] <reisio> over gui file managers?
[21:40] <apb1963_> over DIR /P
[21:41] <k1l_> !ot
[21:41] <reisio> oh, yeah, norton commander was great
[21:41] <reisio> I barely used a plain dos prompt at all in those days
[21:41] <reisio> was better than Windows 3.1, too, as little as that's saying
[21:41] <apb1963_> no doubt
[21:42] <apb1963_> There's a bookmark manager that looks similar to MC
[21:42] <apb1963_> It's called... Total Bookmarks.
[21:42] <reisio> haha
[21:42] <reisio> cute name
[21:43] <reisio> even if it abbreviates to an uncute name
[21:43] <apb1963_> It's in need of enhancements, but it does work as-is.
[21:43] <apb1963_> yeah the author wasn't too interested in changing the name.
[21:43] <reisio> free software? all set
[21:43] <apb1963_> of course
[21:48] <netmanbug> twizsted: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[21:49] <Zeb_> ebediah
[21:49] <Zeb_> Zebediah
[21:50] <Zeb_> list
[21:50] <Zeb_> list channel
[21:50] <Zeb_> ?
[21:50] <Zeb_> help
[21:50] <k1l_> !irc | Zeb_
[21:51] <twizsted> netmanbug, sorry my friend got distracted, yes sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf to get rid of your isp's nameservers
[21:51]  * Slawek is bouncing to 'Mozzart - Malice And Vice' 
[21:52] <twizsted> netmanbug, it's the only work around for your bug that's been unfixed for years!
[21:55] <netmanbug> twizsted: i noticed that if your vpn has three dns then your isp's gets pushed out of /etc/resolv.conf but because i only have two, my isp's is still there albeit in third place but still potentially able to be used ie. dns leak risk
[22:00] <sebbu> lol
[22:00] <sebbu> i have a nice xorg working now
[22:00] <sebbu> but
[22:01] <sebbu> when i connect from outside with x forwarding and launch something (ie, glxgears)
[22:01] <sebbu> it appears on the native screen without a window, and i have a black window on the host
[22:01] <sebbu> only for accelerated app, like glxgears
[22:01] <sebbu> xclock works normally
[22:01] <Surfer2010> hello does anyone have tvheadend? ... because i can't see any "upcoming recordnings" ... but don't know why
[22:03] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: I am back .., gimme a bit to catch up , and I be with you .
[22:03] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: k.  Thx
[22:09] <Guest82585> "# service libvirtd start" gives me "Unit libvirtd.service not found" error. libvirt, qemu, and a VM was running prior to reboot. what happened? how can I fix this?
[22:11] <tgm4883> Guest82585: is libvirt installed?
[22:11] <nicomachus> Guest82585: libvirt does not take start arguments
[22:11] <reisio> is its service named 'libvirtd'?
[22:11] <tgm4883> in 16.04 it's libvirt-bin
[22:11] <nicomachus> Guest82585: at least according to the redhat dudes
[22:12] <Guest82585> yes it is installed
[22:12] <Guest82585> it was working fine prior to a reboot
[22:12] <tgm4883> Guest82585: what version of ubuntu?
[22:12] <Guest82585> K 16.04
[22:12] <tgm4883> Guest82585: then you have the service name wrong
[22:13] <tgm4883> Guest82585: try libvirt-bin
[22:13] <Guest82585> systemctl libvirt-bin start?
[22:13] <tgm4883> Guest82585: yes
[22:13] <Padgaland> So I am looking at the different flavors of ubuntu for my lenovo and mate feels best so far
[22:13] <reisio> Padgaland: you tried Xfce?
[22:14] <Guest82585> seemed to work so far. trying qemu.
[22:14] <Guest82585> Padgaland: Why mate? (nothing against mate, it's awesome)
[22:15] <Padgaland> the processor seems to keep up well enough
[22:16] <Guest82585> virt manager is complaining about the libvirt-bin package (it's installed), libvirtd daemon (i do believe we just got it started), and me being a member of the libvirtd group (i am)
[22:18] <lanz> hi
[22:20] <Guest82585> i still can't start a VM
[22:24] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: We still at the start --- removing kernels in sda , embedding grub ?
[22:25] <reisio> Guest82585: /nick vmguy
[22:25] <reisio> Guest82585: how're you trying? What're the error msgs?
[22:25] <Padgaland> Ok I went to load a live view of xubuntu and it suddenly said it was missing a file to run it so I just need to create a new ISO stick and try again right?
[22:25] <Kirito> https://bpaste.net/raw/e9d32077de1f Does anyone have any clue what is going wrong here? There isn't a shortage of storage space
[22:27] <vmguy> reisio: using virt-manager, can't connect to qemu-kvm.
[22:27] <nicomachus> Kirito: it says in that message how to fix it...
[22:27] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Away for a few ..back soonest .
[22:27] <Kirito> nicomachus, ...no, it doesn't
[22:27] <vmguy> trying to start the daemon tells me the service file isn't found
[22:28] <nicomachus> Kirito: "you can restart your domain by running 'virsh --connect qemu:///system start debian8' otherwise, please restart your installation"
[22:28] <reisio> vmguy: mmm, so we don't waste too much time, can you quickly tell me why you're using hardware virt? :)
[22:28] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Yes... still at start
[22:28] <Kirito> nicomachus, "if the installation was successful", yes. It was not.
[22:29] <vmguy> windows gaming VM
[22:29] <nicomachus> that's where the "otherwise, please restart your installation" part comes in.
[22:29] <vmguy> i'm passing through my AMD R7 to play games without dual-boot.
[22:30] <Kirito> Thanks, because I only attemted the installation once before asking for help here.
[22:30] <vmguy> reisio, it was working just fine right before a reboot.
[22:30] <nicomachus> Kirito: what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[22:30] <Kirito> 16.04
[22:30] <Padgaland> After it said it was missing it went to what looked like a terminal looking screen not many options after that so i just hard resterted the computer
[22:30] <nicomachus> Kirito: and you're trying to install VM?
[22:30] <Kirito> ...yes?
[22:30] <vmguy> reisio: may i pm as to not flood the channel?
[22:30] <reisio> vmguy: and your situation is complex enough you can't just run 'kvm ... blah blah'?
[22:31] <nicomachus> Kirito: of what OS?
[22:31] <reisio> if you have many lines to share, use a pastebin, like dpaste.com
[22:31] <Kirito> ...of Debian, as that paste shows.
[22:31] <nicomachus> Kirito: then I would suggest asking in the Debian channels.
[22:31] <Kirito> No, because the issue is not Debian related.
[22:32] <vmguy> reisio: i don't understand.
[22:32] <Kirito> libvirt is failing to create a disk image. The Debian installation has not even been attempted at this point.
[22:33] <sugoi> brand new to ubuntu. this question isn't probably ubuntu specific. forgive me. i created a couple sshfs fstab mount definitions, and added x-systemd as a mount option. i noticed it created a "open folder" icon like thing in the task bar when i first mounted it
[22:33] <sugoi> i removed that pin, and now i regret it. i think i'd like it
[22:33] <sugoi> it had the smarts to remount the mount point
[22:33] <sugoi> mounting (via cli) again doesn't repin that icon
[22:33] <sugoi> what created that icon? where might i ask about this?
[22:33] <reisio> vmguy: I mean kvm is so simple to use on its own for just a standalone VM
[22:34] <reisio> the command 'kvm', that is
[22:34] <reisio> you don't need libvirt
[22:34] <vmguy> it tells me it can't connect to the hypervisor
[22:34] <vmguy> i think
[22:36] <vmguy> reisio: http://imgur.com/a/hZVk8
[22:37] <Kirito> Sigh. I suppose I was too idealistic to hope for any meaningful support on an Ubuntu channel
[22:37] <vmguy> kirito: pm me
[22:37] <reisio> vmguy: such overkill
[22:38] <Kirito> Why?
[22:38] <reisio> basic kvm usage is really simple, it's something like 'kvm -hda path/to/"drive" -blah -blah'
[22:38] <vmguy> kirito: what is your issue?
[22:38] <reisio> libvirt/virt-manager is meant for people who use VMs for heaps of things constantly
[22:38] <lbracher> Hi there! I'm looking for a way to set resolution and frequency to TTY1, but I wasn't able to. I tried fbset -fb /dev/fb0 640x480-60 without success. Do you know how to set the resolution to these parameters on Ubuntu Server? Thanks in advance! :)
 https://bpaste.net/raw/e9d32077de1f Does anyone have any clue what is going wrong here? There isn't a shortage of storage space
[22:39] <vmguy> virt-manager is also how i trade KB/M back and forth between host and guest
[22:41] <tgm4883> Kirito: Is there any debug/verbose options for that command?
[22:44]  * reisio shakes head
[22:44] <vmguy> why?
[22:45] <reisio> because you can do that with a simple keyboard shortcut with plain kvm :)
[22:45] <tgm4883> reisio: maybe
[22:46] <vmguy> so if I want to use kvm to start my already created vm named "qemu-win8", how would I do that?
[22:46] <vmguy> i'll bite at using pure kvm if it works.
[22:47] <reisio> vmguy: qemu-system-x86_64 $(find ~/ -type f -iname 'qemu-win8.img') -mem 1024
[22:47] <reisio> something as simple as that
[22:48]  * tgm4883 finds it odd that a "simple" command requires a shell out to find
[22:49] <vmguy> yeah, that doesn't seem as simple as you say
[22:50] <reisio> seriously?
[22:50] <reisio> I don't know where your disk image is
[22:50] <reisio> psychokinetics doesn't factor into simple or not
[22:50] <tgm4883> reisio: how do you handle multiple disk images?
[22:50] <vmguy> or a passed-though PCI device?
[22:50] <reisio> tgm4883: it accepts an image as an argument
[22:51] <reisio> just like any other boring command
[22:51] <reisio> vmguy: those too
[22:51] <tgm4883> reisio: no, I mean lets say i have a VM that uses both disk1.img and disk2.img. How do I start that VM?
[22:51] <vmguy> i'm not understanding what's wrong with libvirt.
[22:52] <vmguy> i'd like something that my not-a-CLI-wizard girlfriend can also use to play games on.
[22:52] <reisio> there are simpler GUI frontends, too, but hey if you can get it working, I don't see what's wrong with it, either
[22:52] <vmguy> virt-manager does that, and passing arcane qemu commands isn't going to work for her.
[22:52] <tgm4883> vmguy: she shouldn't need to know about the VM at all. If she needs to know about it, then I'd suggest you're doing it wrong
[22:52] <vmguy> my initial question was about getting the GUI fronted working.
[22:53] <vmguy> tgm, she loves linux, but misses the sims 4
[22:53] <reisio> tgm4883: -hda foo -hdb bar is one way
[22:53] <reisio> vmguy: heh
[22:53] <tgm4883> reisio: nice
[22:53] <Padgaland> man that usb iso creator from penlinux has blue screened my windows pc twice lol
[22:53] <vmguy> padgaland: use rufus
[22:53] <reisio> think I'd use Wine for The Sims, though: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=16273
[22:53] <vmguy> works like a charm on windows.
[22:53] <reisio> platinum means it will run better than on Windows, basically :p
[22:54] <reisio> tgm4883: yeah seems nice & simple to me
[22:55]  * james is also running DX10/11 games that don't work in Wine
[22:55] <reisio> you also runner
[22:55] <Guest13004> a runner?
[22:55] <tgm4883> reisio: I've only got one VM, the rest of my stuff is in LXC containers
[22:56] <Guest13004> i'm mostly using my VM for steam's in-home streaming with the games i can't run in wine.
[22:57] <reisio> tgm4883: sounds quite more sane
[22:57] <reisio> tgm4883: what's your one hardware vm for?
[22:57] <Guest13004> tgm4882: this is my issue https://imgur.com/a/hZVk8
[22:57] <tgm4883> reisio: it's a mythtv backend. I've been looking at moving it to an LXC container, but I'm not finding a good way to mount writable storage for it
[22:58] <reisio> mmm, sounds edgey, g'luck
[22:58] <Guest13004> was not doing this prior to reboot an hour and a half ago.
[22:58] <tgm4883> Guest13004: what's the output of 'groups' and 'ps aux | grep libvirt'
[22:58] <Bashing-om> lbracher: On can set a resolution in /etc/default/grub .
[22:59] <Tux_> hi I been working on getting the sound to work on a  acer chromebook cb3-111; Im running xbuntu right off the internal ssd . i tried loading the audio drivers from  "additional drivers"
[22:59] <Guest13004> i'm a member of the libvirtd group. brb w/ ps aux
[22:59] <Guest13004> james    13900  0.0  0.0  14224   924 pts/1    S+   15:59   0:00 grep --color=auto libvirt
[22:59] <tgm4883> Guest13004: looks like libvirtd isn't running
[23:00] <Guest13004> i know libvirt isn't running. the libvirtd.service file isn't found
[23:00] <Guest13004> that's the problem i'm having. why isn't it found, where did it go, and how can i replace it?
[23:00] <reisio> Tux_: which version of ubuntu?
[23:00] <tgm4883> Guest13004: ..., you said earlier that you were able to start libvirt-bin
[23:00] <Tux_> lspci shows my audio device as: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series High Definition Audio Controller (rev 0e)
[23:01] <Tux_> it is xubuntu
[23:01] <Guest13004> tux_: alsamixer in a terminal. make sure your channels aren't muted.
[23:01] <Guest13004> tgm4883: yes, prior to a reboot, it was working well.
[23:01] <Tux_> 16.0.4
[23:01] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: OK, if ya ready to begin .. noot sda .. and paste ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' and we start the clean up in preperation . on this one drive, 2 more to go .
[23:01] <tgm4883> Guest13004: what's the output of "sudo systemctl status libvirt-bin"
[23:02] <reisio> Tux_: and like, you went through these really promising looking search results?
[23:02] <reisio> http://askubuntu.com/questions/720516/no-sound-on-ubuntu-15-10-running-on-acer-cb3-111-670-chromebook ?
[23:02] <Guest13004> something about line 347 of my qemu.conf file i think
[23:02] <tgm4883> Guest13004: pastebin it
[23:02] <reisio> oh my, line 347
[23:03] <tgm4883> Guest13004: nobody is going to help you with "something about line 347 of my qemu.conf file i think"
[23:04] <Guest13004> http://pastebin.com/nXJvZJzL
[23:04] <Guest13004> i was about to ask how to read just that one line
[23:04] <tgm4883> Guest13004: sounds like you should look in /etc/libvirt/qemu.conf
[23:05] <allegorical> linux noob here... can't seem to read documents in a cd-rom... getting permission denied... i'm trying in the Files GUI, in the Properties tab to change permission but then it says "Permissions could not be changed. Sorry, could not change the permissions of “Patterson”: Error setting permissions: Read-only file system"
[23:06] <reisio> Patterson?!
[23:06]  * reisio calls the feds
[23:06] <allegorical> yeah the Hennessey and Patterson CDROM from Computer Organization :)
[23:06] <reisio> allegorical: heh
[23:06] <reisio> allegorical: how'd you mount it, originally?
[23:06] <Tux_> resiso im looking at your link....
[23:06] <allegorical> well... i didn't
[23:07] <Padgaland> ok going to try xubuntu be back later
[23:07] <reisio> Tux_: r-e-i-TABkey
[23:07] <allegorical> from my brief google search, it's supposed to "Ok well as soon as you put a disk in it should detect and mount automatically."
[23:07] <reisio> later on
[23:07] <allegorical> ?
[23:07] <usr13> Guest13004: https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-September/msg00261.html
[23:07] <reisio> allegorical: so as far as you know, it mounted on its own?
[23:07] <Guest13004> i got it.
[23:07] <Guest13004> dang quotes.
[23:08] <allegorical> yeah... i tried on my lubuntu to do the manual mounting but still got denied
[23:08] <allegorical> because if i recall it didn't auto show up
[23:08] <Guest13004> . /dev/hugepages and "/dev/hugepages" aren't teh same thing.
[23:08] <Guest13004> thanks for your help
[23:09] <allegorical> i guess i'll try the manual process again on ubuntu
[23:10] <reisio> allegorical: you could try sudo rsync -av path/to/mount/point/ ~/else/where/; sudo chown -R youruser:youruser ~/else/where/
[23:10] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: ok I'm here
[23:10] <reisio> for a one-off solution
[23:10] <allegorical> alrighty, i'll give it a go thanks reisio
[23:11] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: This would go easier if I could open an ssh window to that machine... but liveUSB doesn't run ssh by default and I'm not sure how to proceeed with that.
[23:11] <Tux_> reisio, sry i did see it before but the post links to instructions for fedora 22 and  i didnt think the commands were the same, mo Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series High Definition Audio Controller (rev 0e)
[23:11] <Tux_> osts i found also assumed i had linux next to crome os
[23:12] <apb1963_> I guess I could just install it to the USB shtick?
[23:12] <reisio> Tux_: as long as you're using pulse and alsa, it should be the same
[23:12] <reisio> apb1963_: sudo apt-get install openssh; ifconfig
[23:12] <apb1963_> Not sure if that would make the shtick weird somehow
[23:12] <reisio> apb1963_: erm, or is it openssh-server :)
[23:13] <apb1963_> reisio: It's not the command itself necessarily (althougth that would be helpful too)... it's the fact that I'm running on a USB shtick.
[23:13] <Tux_> reisio, ok ill try it now then ty
[23:13] <apb1963_> reisio: a live one
[23:13] <reisio> apb1963_: the OS doesn't care about that
[23:13] <apb1963_> reisio: so... I don't know if I'd be messing it up somehow for the next install usage.
[23:13] <reisio> as long as it has space to add data
[23:14] <reisio> apb1963_: no, it's read only, it's all in ram
[23:14] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: In this area your skills are the better of mine . Are both machines on the same router ?
[23:14] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: yes
[23:14] <reisio> apb1963_: if you rebooted, all customizations you'd made will no longer exist
[23:14] <apb1963_> reisio: ok... this is what's kind of confusing to me
[23:14] <apb1963_> reisio: oh
[23:14] <reisio> but hopefully no longer :)
[23:14] <lawltoad> when I do a "$docker run -ti ubuntu bash" it dosn't seem to beable to connetc to the network of the host. The host is also a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04 and docker 1.11.2
[23:14] <apb1963_> reisio: ok, that's what I was asking.
[23:14] <apb1963_> reisio: I get it now
[23:15] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: give me a minute to install ssh
[23:15] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 to copy files 'tween 2 'buntus .
[23:15] <reisio> reads from the media (USB stick) and uses RAM for anything it has to create or alter
[23:15] <reisio> there are ways you can have it store things on the media, but that isn't the default
[23:18] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I haven't read that yet but lets backup a minute...beep beep beep.... You want dpkg -l right?  But... isn't that for the running system?
[23:18] <apb1963_> reisio: thank you... that helped
[23:18] <apb1963_> reisio: Been a couple of years since I read up on it, I forgot that stuff.
[23:19] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: i.e. that will give me a list of packages for 16.04 from the liveUSB... right?
[23:19] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Yeah ;;; erk .... we need to be in the sda install .. going to remove kernels and disable 30_os-prober .
[23:21] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: then also is dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc to install grub to the partition .
[23:21] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: well... is there anything we can take care of whlie I'm booted into 16.04?  I'm not sure the 14.04 will boot
[23:21] <apb1963_> well I guess it did... just the GUI didn't
[23:22] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I wonder if it would make any sense to simply remove it from all partitions except the 16.04?
[23:23] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: "  simply remove it from all partitions " what is it in this context ?
[23:23] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: grub
[23:24] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Prsently grub is installed to the MBR of all 3 hard drives ( sector 0 ) .
[23:24] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Right... I meant MBR of each drive except one
[23:25] <apb1963_> you know what... lets do it your way.. you know what you're doing that way... otherwise we're going off some half-baked idea that popped into my head.
[23:26] <apb1963_> I prefer my ideas to fully bake :)
[23:27] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: The goal is to have Windows XP booting from MBR on sda, 14.04 booting from the sda5 partition, and grub installed to sdb, sdc .. with 16.04 as the controlling authority of all .
[23:29] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Presently IF you can not boot 14.04 on sda .. will have to address that also ..and get that install booting on it's own .
[23:31] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: ok 14.04.5 is booted (with non-functional GUI).  Scrolling back to find command you requested.
[23:32] <apb1963_> ' dpkg -l | grep linux- '   on it.
[23:33] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156789/
[23:36] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Not as bad as I thought ! let’s remove all the packages marked as rc : ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' .
[23:38] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: this is everything marked rc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156804/  ... before I delete it.
[23:39] <Bashing-om> !info dkms trusty
[23:40] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: not positive but I THINK virtualbox installed that maybe.
[23:41] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: I do some more checkming .. but something here stinks real bad ! .. we do not want to remove the operating system !
[23:41] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I would think anything marked rc would be ok to purge... but... not being positive... I'm reluctant to do so.
[23:42] <Bashing-om> !info libavfilter3 trusty
[23:42] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: yeah... some of this may be left over from my attempt to use the nasty little broken script in the asterisk contrib dir that the developers of freepbx tell you to use on their wiki.  :/
[23:43] <Bashing-om> !info libcln6 trusty
[23:44] <apb1963_> libav is likely from vlc
[23:44] <Bashing-om> !info libgtk-3-0 trusty
[23:45] <apb1963_> that seems like a KDE kind of thing which I run
[23:45] <matthelosh> Hi, I'm a newbie here..
[23:45] <apb1963_> matthelosh: welcome.
[23:45] <apb1963_> matthelosh: !ask
[23:45] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Not OK .. I am scared .
[23:45] <matthelosh> Thanks..
[23:46] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Yeah that's a teeth grinder.  Shall we see what's installed for that?
[23:47] <Bashing-om> !info libmodemmanagerqt1 trusty
[23:48] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156817/
[23:49] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Wants to rip the heart out of the operating system ! WHY ?? .. what results  ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg -C '.
[23:49] <var_> why can I not get chrome to run???
[23:50] <var_> it downloads and installs, but will not launch
[23:50] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: that's one mighty set of commands :)
[23:51] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: difference between full-upgrade and dist-upgrade?
[23:52] <var_> i know that dist-upgrade forces some upgrades that will not go through when you use sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:52] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Yeah ,, and all thise unexpected 'rc' where the package manager says the package is (R)emoved but (C)onfig files remain .. but but but a lot of these files seem to me to be current !
[23:52] <Sugar> テスト
[23:52] <matthelosh> why xls vb object like radio button on libreoffice 5 dissapear?
[23:52] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: well note that I'm running 64 bit
[23:52] <var_> but why this google chrome WILL NOT WORK HELP
[23:52] <var_> please lol
[23:52] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: whereas many if not all (I didn't really notice) are i386
[23:53] <apb1963_> var_: dist-upgrade will install new packages, whereas upgrade will not.
[23:53] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: 'apt' is the smarter 'apt-get' and full-upgrade is the counter part of dist-upgrade .. only better .
[23:53] <k1l> !jp | Sugar
[23:53] <var_> thats what i mean lol
[23:53] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: oh I didn't even notice you were using apt.  Lord...
[23:53] <var_> im not good with words
[23:54] <apb1963_> var_: It's ok... nobody is very good with words when it comes to English :)
[23:54] <var_> whats wrong with using that?
[23:54] <var_> lol
[23:55] <k1l> var_: start "google-chrome-stable" from a terminal and see
[23:55] <var_> it says it can't be found
[23:55] <k1l> so chrome is not installed?
[23:55] <var_> ive been trying for like two days
[23:55] <var_> it is
[23:55] <var_> it sits in the doc...i click it and it crashes
[23:56] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: But yes in respect to 32 bit packages .. I had noticed . and could be that they are remnants of what was at one tome installed . We can go ahead and run the xargs purge command .. hope for the best -- but I say again it scares me waddelling .
[23:56] <k1l> var_: "dpkg -l | grep google | nc termbin.com 9999" show the outputurl please in here
[23:57] <var_> [0909/195700:ERROR:nss_util.cc(94)] Failed to create /home/var/.pki/nssdb directory.
[23:57] <var_> [0909/195701:ERROR:nss_util.cc(94)] Failed to create /home/var/.pki/nssdb directory.
[23:57] <var_> [9948:9980:0909/195703:ERROR:nss_util.cc(94)] Failed to create /home/var/.pki/nssdb directory.
[23:57] <var_> [9948:9948:0909/195704:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(413)] readlink failed: Permission denied
[23:57] <var_> [9948:9948:0909/195704:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(249)] readlink(/home/var/.config/google-chrome/SingletonLock) failed: Permission denied
[23:57] <var_> [9948:9948:0909/195704:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(249)] readlink(/home/var/.config/google-chrome/SingletonLock) failed: Permission denied
[23:57] <k1l> !paste | var_
[23:58] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: note that dpkg -C has no output. I have not yet run the full set of commands other than that one. running them now.
[23:59] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: no output from dpkg -C is a good thing ! dpkg has nothing bad to report .
[23:59] <var_> can you see the paste?