| inetpro | good evening everyone | 14:09 |
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| inetpro | or is it still afternoon | 14:09 |
| nlsthzn | inetpro: alo, evening here (basically :p) | 14:25 |
| inetpro | haha, how're you doing nlsthzn? :-) | 14:25 |
| nlsthzn | alive and kicking :) how about you? | 14:25 |
| inetpro | sweating | 14:26 |
| nlsthzn | summer arrived? | 14:26 |
| inetpro | yeah, winter -> summer without much of spring in between | 14:28 |
| inetpro | just hope it will bring some rain soon | 14:28 |
| inetpro | nlsthzn: btw, do you know by any means how KDE or Ubuntu time is syncronised in the back end these days? | 14:29 |
| inetpro | if I enable systemd systemd-timedated.service it dies by itself again even if I untick "Set date and time automatically" | 14:30 |
| nlsthzn | nope sorry | 14:30 |
| inetpro | and there's no NTP or NTPDATE installed | 14:30 |
| nlsthzn | systemd ftw? | 14:30 |
| inetpro | on a server you just configure /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf and restart systemd-timedated.service and it works | 14:31 |
| nlsthzn | so your systems time isn't automatic any more? | 14:31 |
| inetpro | well.... | 14:31 |
| inetpro | on a machine able to communicate directly with the internet there's no problem | 14:32 |
| inetpro | problem is when you work inside a protected network | 14:33 |
| nlsthzn | https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-timedated.service.html | 14:33 |
| inetpro | have a NTP server at the edge but obviously desktops don't know that | 14:33 |
| nlsthzn | seems if the service terminates itself if not used | 14:33 |
| nlsthzn | can it be it can't see the net to sync and then quits? | 14:33 |
| inetpro | I set the following value in timesyncd.conf on a KDE laptop with "Set date and time automatically" unticked on the GUI | 14:38 |
| inetpro | NTP=0.ntp.is.co.za 1.ntp2.is.co.za | 14:38 |
| inetpro | yet when I restart the systemd service I still don't see any attempt of the machine trying to contact anyone of those on port 123 | 14:39 |
| inetpro | or any other port for that matter | 14:42 |
| inetpro | but when I change that same setting on a server on our network to our NTP server it works perfectly | 14:43 |
| * nlsthzn has no idea | 14:46 | |
| * nlsthzn goes and eats :p | 14:46 | |
| inetpro | enjoy the meal! | 14:51 |
| nlsthzn | meal done, baby bear in the bed (and fighting the sleeps :p) | 16:37 |
| nlsthzn | thx inetpro :) | 16:37 |
| pavlushka | ahoy ZA! | 16:51 |
| pavlushka | o/ | 16:52 |
| nlsthzn | a wild pavlushka appears... | 17:04 |
| pavlushka | nlsthzn: halum :p | 17:43 |
| nlsthzn | if you say so | 17:43 |
| inetpro | nlsthzn: oh I was wrong, again | 17:47 |
| nlsthzn | at least you know your wrong, that is very useful | 17:48 |
| inetpro | I missed the tcpdump traffic to port 123 because it's UDP | 17:48 |
| inetpro | figured it out now | 17:48 |
| inetpro | that desktop setting does actually read the value in /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf | 17:49 |
| inetpro | changed it to NTP=ntp2.is.co.za and after a restart of the service and then untick and tick the GUI it all starts synchronising with the server of my choosing | 17:50 |
| inetpro | even if the service reports as "inactive (dead)" | 17:51 |
| nlsthzn | \o/ | 17:52 |
| inetpro | figured it out after looking at journalctl -f and seeing the logged events when ticking and unticking the GUI option | 17:54 |
| inetpro | hopefully one day someone will add an option to allow changing the ntp server as well | 17:56 |
| inetpro | in fact, a nicer option would probably be to have some kind of a logic to make an internal NTP server discoverable automagically | 17:57 |
| inetpro | I mean allow changing the NTP server in the GUI as well above... | 17:58 |
| inetpro | pointing everyone to ntp.ubuntu.com by default is not very wise in my eyes | 18:00 |
| nlsthzn | yup | 18:01 |
| * nlsthzn will be back | 18:01 | |
| inetpro | nlsthzn: oh and there's no need to change things on the GUI either | 18:25 |
| inetpro | just run the following on the cli after changing timesyncd.conf | 18:25 |
| inetpro | $ timedatectl set-ntp false && timedatectl set-ntp true | 18:25 |
| nlsthzn | sweet | 18:32 |
| * nlsthzn has been on Ubuntu for two days now, time to hop... bbl | 18:32 | |
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