[14:09] good evening everyone [14:09] or is it still afternoon [14:25] inetpro: alo, evening here (basically :p) [14:25] haha, how're you doing nlsthzn? :-) [14:25] alive and kicking :) how about you? [14:26] sweating [14:26] summer arrived? [14:28] yeah, winter -> summer without much of spring in between [14:28] just hope it will bring some rain soon [14:29] nlsthzn: btw, do you know by any means how KDE or Ubuntu time is syncronised in the back end these days? [14:30] if I enable systemd systemd-timedated.service it dies by itself again even if I untick "Set date and time automatically" [14:30] nope sorry [14:30] and there's no NTP or NTPDATE installed [14:30] systemd ftw? [14:31] on a server you just configure /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf and restart systemd-timedated.service and it works [14:31] so your systems time isn't automatic any more? [14:31] well.... [14:32] on a machine able to communicate directly with the internet there's no problem [14:33] problem is when you work inside a protected network [14:33] https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-timedated.service.html [14:33] have a NTP server at the edge but obviously desktops don't know that [14:33] seems if the service terminates itself if not used [14:33] can it be it can't see the net to sync and then quits? [14:38] I set the following value in timesyncd.conf on a KDE laptop with "Set date and time automatically" unticked on the GUI [14:38] NTP=0.ntp.is.co.za 1.ntp2.is.co.za [14:39] yet when I restart the systemd service I still don't see any attempt of the machine trying to contact anyone of those on port 123 [14:42] or any other port for that matter [14:43] but when I change that same setting on a server on our network to our NTP server it works perfectly [14:46] * nlsthzn has no idea [14:46] * nlsthzn goes and eats :p [14:51] enjoy the meal! [16:37] meal done, baby bear in the bed (and fighting the sleeps :p) [16:37] thx inetpro :) [16:51] ahoy ZA! [16:52] o/ [17:04] a wild pavlushka appears... [17:43] nlsthzn: halum :p [17:43] if you say so [17:47] nlsthzn: oh I was wrong, again [17:48] at least you know your wrong, that is very useful [17:48] I missed the tcpdump traffic to port 123 because it's UDP [17:48] figured it out now [17:49] that desktop setting does actually read the value in /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf [17:50] changed it to NTP=ntp2.is.co.za and after a restart of the service and then untick and tick the GUI it all starts synchronising with the server of my choosing [17:51] even if the service reports as "inactive (dead)" [17:52] \o/ [17:54] figured it out after looking at journalctl -f and seeing the logged events when ticking and unticking the GUI option [17:56] hopefully one day someone will add an option to allow changing the ntp server as well [17:57] in fact, a nicer option would probably be to have some kind of a logic to make an internal NTP server discoverable automagically [17:58] I mean allow changing the NTP server in the GUI as well above... [18:00] pointing everyone to ntp.ubuntu.com by default is not very wise in my eyes [18:01] yup [18:01] * nlsthzn will be back [18:25] nlsthzn: oh and there's no need to change things on the GUI either [18:25] just run the following on the cli after changing timesyncd.conf [18:25] $ timedatectl set-ntp false && timedatectl set-ntp true [18:32] sweet [18:32] * nlsthzn has been on Ubuntu for two days now, time to hop... bbl