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k1lno, please show the url again00:00
apb1963_Bashing-om: I know...I was hoping it would find something to explain the broken GUI :(00:00
var_http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156839/00:00
Guest77349hi i was wondering if anybody had any suggestions about what program to use to convert mp3 to m4b?00:00
bilb_onowhere would you change where apt-get is pulling from?00:01
bilb_onolike to add an address00:01
k1lvar_: open a terminal and do a "ls -al" is there something owned by "root"?00:01
apb1963_Bashing-om: status report so far... http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156846/00:01
var_ok00:01
k1lbilb_ono: what exactly?00:01
k1lbilb_ono: changing mirror? adding ppa or 3rd party repo?00:02
bilb_onok1l: I have an ubuntu server that is pulling packages from the regular us.ubuntu.com thing, but also from another url with packages.00:02
bilb_onok1l: I think adding a 3rd party repo00:02
stacks88the command 'rl' is from randomize-lines package on ubuntu 14.04.. but on 16.04 what package is that installed under ? randomlize-lines doesnt seem to be it00:03
k1lbilb_ono: official ubuntu servers are in /etc/apt/sources.list; PPAs and 3rd party goes to /etc/apt/sources.list.d folder00:03
apb1963_Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156857/00:03
var_k1l http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156858/00:04
naccstacks88: deleted in xenial (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/randomize-lines/+publishinghistory) replaced by 'shuf' ?00:04
stacks88oh00:04
apb1963_Bashing-om:00:04
apb1963_apt-cache policy gtk+3.0 | pastebinit00:04
apb1963_http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156859/00:04
k1lvar_: sudo chown -R var:var .pki00:05
Bashing-omapb1963_: Go ahead and let the upgrade complete .00:05
var_what am i removing?00:05
apb1963_Bashing-om: I did... keep reading above :)00:05
k1lvar_: not removing. making var user the owner of that folder again, like it used to be00:06
var_oh so the permissions are messed up?00:06
k1lvar_: yes.00:06
k1lvar_: sudo chown -R var:var .bash_history #since that file is messed too00:07
var_k1l00:07
var_after entering it just goes to a new line00:08
k1lvar_: that means: no error00:08
var_but then i still get the same error for google-chrome-stable00:08
netham45Hey, df seems to be returning the wrong numbers for a specific NTFS partition I've got on here, it shows ~33% usage of a 3TB drive whereas du on the folder it's mounted under shows near 100% usage00:09
k1lplease show the exact error output in a pastebin00:09
letalisi installed something on my system that is using systemv init scripts and apparently the service is running under systemd. how do i control that service under systemd?00:09
var_ok00:09
netham45Anyone have any idea what might be causing that?00:09
Bashing-omapb1963_: Look'n and all I see is a bunch of aborts ???00:09
apb1963_Bashing-om: I'm so sorry... when I said keep reading... I meant the next post/paste!00:10
var_k1l http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156884/00:10
apb1963_Bashing-om: bottom line is, it did everything requested no errors.00:11
UzrnmI can't believe that Wi-Fi functionality is still not fixed on Ubuntu 16.04.1. I have removed Linux Mint, in order to install Xubuntu again, hoping that 3 months are more than enough for basic stuff to be fixed. However, that is not the case.00:11
apb1963_Bashing-om: But the gtk package is still in the same state.00:11
var_Can anyone tell me the disadvantages to using Chromium? if any00:12
k1lvar_: sudo chown -R var:var /home/var00:12
netham45var_, not that it's going to matter for much longer but Chromium doesn't come with Flash.00:12
apb1963_Uzrnm: I've been working with a live 16.04 usb stick... wireless works out of the box on that.  Don't know about install yet.00:12
k1lvar_: it seems you have messed a lot of file permissions with sudo usage00:12
var_this is a brand new install00:13
var_from iso00:13
k1lvar_: i doubt it. the symptoms are cleary some misusage of root permissions00:14
apb1963_Bashing-om: listen... 14.04 is hosed.  Unless we're going to fix it (which would make installing 16.04 have less point right now), then we should probably just keep moving foward.00:15
Uzrnmapb1963_:I have decided to not connect to a wireless network while installing. Maybe that's the problem - important updates have not been downloaded. I will try to update.00:15
var_I starting having this problem after trying to install ember and react00:15
Bashing-omapb1963_: Scary scary ,, but I am of the opinion that the package manager knows better than I what it is doing .. and if we hose up the system with the purge , will be easier to re-install than to fix the system if it is presently in a broken state ( all those rc's ) ..00:15
apb1963_Uzrnm: yeah... rumor has it, that's recommended.00:15
var_them i wiped my system and did a brand new install00:15
apb1963_Bashing-om: so... purge.  Right?00:16
Bashing-omapb1963_: What is your opinion if we ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' ?00:17
var_k1l that worked...youre awesome...but will i face more problems?00:17
apb1963_Bashing-om: my opinion is I agree with you.  It's hosed.  We either fix or reinstall and fixing will be harder.00:17
k1lvar_: that should have cleared the most.00:18
apb1963_Bashing-om: but English being what it is, I like to be 100% clear on things that are immutable once done.00:19
Bashing-omapb1963_: Not having a 14.04 install ... well sorta defeats setting up a multi-boot operation, no ?00:19
var_k1l: is there a command that I can run to see if anything else is messed up?00:20
var_I can understand how that happened00:20
apb1963_Bashing-om: yes... but the goal is to have a running system.  Multi-boot is secondary.... and really only important to the extent that I want to make sure I don't lose anything important that isn't in /home.00:20
var_can't*00:20
apb1963_Bashing-om: of course if 16.04 is buggy... then having 14.04 as a backup would be fairly important.00:21
k1lvar_: it should be good now. there is no command. if you encounter new issue then you can have a look specifically00:21
var_k1l: thank you00:21
Bashing-omapb1963_: K; run ' sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ; sudo update-grub ' . and we move on .00:21
k1lvar_: i guess you used some commands with sudo. or even ran gui programs with sudo (which is bad)00:21
apb1963_Bashing-om: During this mess and attempted cleanup, I discovered a /var/www/ directory on 12.04 I forgot about... tarred it up, xferred it over... and now 12.04 partition is 16.04.00:22
Bashing-omapb1963_: I can frequently break my main squeeze .. and yes I do have backup installs !00:22
apb1963_Bashing-om: umm.. do we purge or no?00:22
var_k1l: i update with sudo00:22
var_and auto remove and auto clean00:23
k1lvar_: using apt with sudo is fine.00:23
apb1963_Bashing-om: backup has always been my achilles heel.... there's always reasons that screw me... so... I keep moving forward as best I can.00:23
k1lvar_: but i dont know what other commands or programs you ran00:23
Bashing-omapb1963_: As the system no workie as is .. can not hurt . and will help bunches if we have to operate .00:24
apb1963_Bashing-om: sorry ... we're out of synch now.  purge yes?00:24
Bashing-omapb1963_: yes purge !00:24
apb1963_no I guess it's just me.  purge yes.  lol00:25
cantoois it true that if you install a higher kernel version from ubuntu ppa you get no more security updates ?00:25
tuffkirbyAnyone know how I can install Ubuntu Alongside my Windows 10?00:26
k1lcantoo: yes.00:26
apb1963_Bashing-om: Gotta love it... "Removing kde-window-manager-common (4:4.11.11-0ubuntu0.2) ..."00:26
var_k1l: I ran some commands from a forum online that said needed to be run in order for google to work00:26
Bashing-om!info kde-window-manager-common trusty00:27
ubottukde-window-manager-common (source: kde-workspace): K window manager (KWin) Common Files. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.11.11-0ubuntu0.2 (trusty), package size 1638 kB, installed size 6343 kB00:27
Bashing-omapb1963_: ^ ouch .. we have the technology, we can rebuild .00:28
apb1963_Bashing-om: Yeah I don't know about that.  This is quite a bit more than it claimed it would do...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156947/00:30
apb1963_Bashing-om: but it is what it is... and we move forward.00:30
lbracherBashing-om, I tried to set on /etc/default/grub but it didn't worked. Something happens when framebuffer module loads and I'm not able anymore to see anything on screen. How could I get rid of this? TIA! :)00:34
apb1963_Bashing-om: Done and done.  What's next?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156969/00:35
Surfer2010Does anyone use tvheadend? I don't see the upcoming recording anymore ... no clue why this could be ... hope to get help here because there is no extra channel for this thanks00:35
uzrnmNope, still can't connect to a wireless network, after the system update.00:36
naccSurfer2010: #kodi?00:36
apb1963_Surfer2010: Try #hts  I found it with /msg alis list *Tvheadend*00:37
Bashing-omapb1963_: Forward ! ( does not look as bad as you think ) . Run ' sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ; sudo update-grub ' . then is next .00:38
apb1963_Bashing-om: I did... see last paste above00:38
Bashing-omapb1963_: KDE the preferred DE for this install ?00:39
apb1963_Bashing-om: probably :)00:39
Bashing-omProfessorKaos64: that was a yes or no question . Ya want kde as the DE ?00:40
Surfer2010apb1963_ what do you mean? Where find it?00:40
nacc!alis | Surfer201000:40
ubottuSurfer2010: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http00:40
josharensonWhats the channel for Yakkety?00:41
Bashing-omapb1963_: that was a yes or no question . Ya want kde as the DE ?00:41
apb1963_Bashing-om: yes please. A double helping if you don't mind.00:41
Surfer2010Found it thanks I will ask there00:41
Bashing-omjosharenson: that be #ubuntu+1 /00:41
josharensonBashing-om: ah thanks... I tried #ubuntu-next :-p00:42
uzrnmNope, still can't connect to a wireless network, after the system update.00:42
apb1963_Bashing-om: I say probably because I haven't seen the latest one so... for now... yes.  I reserve the right to change my mind later :)00:42
Bashing-omapb1963_: let's run ' sudo apt install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop ' .00:42
apb1963_Bashing-om: E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-desktop00:43
apb1963_apb1963_: I think it maybe in universe.00:44
apb1963_oops.. talkin' to myself00:44
apb1963_Bashing-om: I think it may be in universe00:44
Bashing-omapb1963_: Huh ? cuase it is there . ' apt list kubuntu-desktop ' .00:44
apb1963_Bashing-om: Not in mine :)00:45
apb1963_Bashing-om: Which means turning on universe.00:45
Bashing-omapb1963_: Yep " Section: universe/metapackages " .00:45
apb1963_So... kde is unsupported.  Fascinating.00:46
apb1963_And now we know how it's possible for my system to keep getting hosed.00:47
apb1963_well well well00:47
apb1963_we found the flaw in the ointment00:48
Bashing-omapb1963_: All in the process of learning . :)00:48
de-factohmm how can i use the comma on numerical block in gnome? it just "blips" like on error instead of producing any inputs :((00:48
apb1963_Bashing-om: done00:51
apb1963_Bashing-om: oops... spoke too soon.  sorry00:52
Bashing-omapb1963_: ' sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda ' .00:52
beaver.00:52
apb1963_Bashing-om: We're still one step back; ignore it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157024/00:54
LinuxReptilHola00:55
mijkI have an old convertible laptop and I'm looking for WM that's optimized for tablets. It's a Pentium M but it has a GeForce Go 620000:55
Bashing-omapb1963_: Let's see if the iron maiden floats .. reboot and let's see what happens .00:56
Bashing-omapb1963_: Wring ^^ NO ...00:56
Bashing-omwrong**00:56
Bashing-omapb1963_: waht results ' sudo apt install kdepasswd ' ?00:57
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apb1963_Bashing-om: I'm walking the path.. Just downgraded kde-baseapps-data01:00
uzrnmCan't connect to a Wi-Fi network on 16.04.1. Anyone knows a solution to this problem, which was initially present 3 months ago, when they first rolled out the 16.04?01:00
apb1963_Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157053/01:01
Bashing-omapb1963_: what results ' sudo apt install software-properties-kde ' ?01:03
apb1963_Bashing-om: yeah I'm walking the path... you want me to just let you know when I'm done and/or reach an impasse?  I was just keeping you updated.01:04
Bashing-omapb1963_: If there is an error reported . I do need to see it, yeah .01:05
apb1963_Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157064/01:08
apb1963_Bashing-om: So.... I'm about to run apt-get install libkdecore5=4:4.13.3-0ubuntu0.301:12
apb1963_Since i've learned that that entire nasty little string is the actual version number which confused me for literally years.01:13
Sugar#mofumofu01:13
apb1963_#tofutofu01:13
MojtabaHello, What do you suggest instead of TrueCrypt?01:14
MojtabaI want something like the Truecrypt feature, which hides some parts of the disk.01:14
jeffrey_fMojtaba: VeraCrypt  https://veracrypt.codeplex.com/01:15
jeffrey_fMojtaba: it is actually a fork of TrueCrypt01:15
Bashing-omapb1963_: Yuk .. PPA messing up the works ! "  4:4.14.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa1  " .01:16
apb1963_Bashing-om: hmm.... what ppa is that?01:16
MojtabaThanks01:16
apb1963_Bashing-om: my apt-get skills have grown stronger... but my ppa is still weak01:17
apb1963_I have a weak ppa01:17
Bashing-omapb1963_: ' apt-cache policy libkdecore5 ' see if it tells us what the PPA is .01:17
apb1963_Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157097/01:19
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Bashing-omapb1963_: well that did not tell us . we get any hints ' dpkg -s libkdecore5 ' ?01:24
apb1963_Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157109/01:24
gege_bye01:28
Bashing-omapb1963_: Yojjie .. I am stomewalled . what I expect to be installed " sysop@1404mini:~$ apt list libkdecore5 >> libkdecore5/trusty-updates,trusty-security 4:4.13.3-0ubuntu0.3 amd64 ' .01:29
dirty_page_joekkk i was wondering . ."you rang" is aussie stuff?01:29
kinTomreyn: Are you there01:30
tomreynkin: possibly, but whats your actual question?01:30
apb1963_Bashing-om: are you running KDE?01:31
apb1963_Bashing-om: I guess you must be if you have that package installed01:31
kinWell just now I made bootable of tiny linux and when I booted into it that Pink line did not came01:32
apb1963_Bashing-om: or did you get it by installing some other kde package instead of desktop?  Or maybe I didn't install desktop but something else :)01:32
kinIt seems issue with the Display drivers01:32
kinTomreyn: What do you think01:32
tomreynkin: i think this channel provides #ubuntu support, but you could try ##hardware01:33
kinTomreyn: Hardware?01:34
kinTomreyn: What i need to DO?01:34
tomreynkin: i told you before. optionally update bios. return to vendor,01:35
tomreynfor a different perspective, i would bet tiny linux provides an older kernel which does not exhibit the issue you are seeing.01:35
tomreynbut this is really just a guess01:36
apb1963_Bashing-om: Dependencies: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157140/01:36
Bashing-omapb1963_: Yeah .. been doing same same . we sure have to get this fixed as the whole system depends on it . still spinning my wheels .01:38
kinTomreyn: What i know is that the Kernel has got nothing to do with exhibiting the Display issue, Its just allocates the memory to a program01:39
OerHeksthat package libkdecore5 is from kubuntu-ninjas or mint?01:40
apb1963_OerHeks: I don't expect it should be?01:40
apb1963_Bashing-om: Well I'm thinking to simply purge it and reinstall it.  Is that not a good idea?01:41
kinTomreyn: I have already made a replacement waiting for the new laptop to get delivered as soon as possible, Lets hope it should not be a defective Piece01:41
apb1963_OerHeks: Unless somehow it migrated over from my 12.04 install when I checked out cinnamon?01:42
Bashing-omapb1963_: Too risky as too much repends on it . I be getting my learning cap on . what returns ' ls -al /usr/share/lintian/overrides/libkdecore5 ' ?01:42
apb1963_OerHeks: I suppose that is a possibility... since I used debootstrap to install 14.0401:42
apb1963_Bashing-om: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 71 Oct 10  2014 /usr/share/lintian/overrides/libkdecore501:43
kinTomreyn: You are right Kernel sometimes exhibits the Display issue01:44
Bashing-omapb1963_: Humm ..just a file .. Over my head as to how/why overrides work .. and who/what instituted this override . Back to scratching my head .01:45
dancingdemonhey guys, I'm having an issue with filezilla not lunching.01:45
dancingdemonWhat can I do to fix this?01:45
dancingdemonIt was fine and all of a sudden it exited and whenever i double click the filezilla icon, it won't start01:45
dirty_page_joesounds like a lock file01:46
apb1963_Bashing-om: yeah... the only reference I can find to the file is in a package called lantian which is a debian package checker.  No clue.  I don't know anything about overrides at all.  First I've heard of it.01:47
dirty_page_joe1+3=901:47
apb1963_Bashing-om: did you notice oerherks comment?01:47
reisios/1+3/9/01:47
dirty_page_joehehehe01:48
dancingdemondirty_page_joe, what to do to fix this??01:48
dirty_page_joedancingdemon, i dont know01:48
dirty_page_joedancingdemon, can u display properties from not functioning icon and see to where it points? if Y, can you got there and find it? if Y can you invoke it from a terminal (usually in here useful messages may appear)?01:51
dancingdemonI right click on it and chose properties but nothing helpful is showing01:52
dancingdemonhow can i do this from a terminal??01:52
dancingdemonhttp://i.imgur.com/lbG6HP1.png01:53
david_quali programmi per scaricare file torrent01:54
dirty_page_joedancingdemon, uh... "which filezilla" gives something ?01:54
dancingdemonI'm sorry what?01:54
Bashing-omapb1963_: " that package libkdecore5 is from kubuntu-ninjas or mint? " in response to your last . I still scrambling in an attempt to find a means to find what installed that package .01:55
dancingdemonwhenever I double click on it, It won't lunch01:55
dancingdemonIt was fine like 20 mins ago but now It won't start01:55
Minty_Brownhas anyone dealt with touchpad errors on linux?01:55
dancingdemonnow it shows that : http://i.imgur.com/e8SmTfv.png01:56
apb1963_Bashing-om: It suddenly dawned on me... chances are, I have a ppa from kde.01:56
apb1963_Bashing-om: shall we look?01:56
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dirty_page_joedancingdemon, I never used that app - but you can try to find it "path" on terminal w/ "which filezilla"01:56
dirty_page_joedancingdemon, is a good way to start troubleshooting01:57
apb1963_Bashing-om: Hmm.. I don't... but I bet I did at one time.01:57
seeit_I'm interested in using apt-build to make a custom distro for my architecture, anyone have experience doing this on xenial?01:57
dirty_page_joedancingdemon, this, considering "filezilla" is the right name for the executable01:58
Minty_BrownMy Syanptics touchpad isn't showing up in xinput --list, but it is showing in /proc/bus/input/devices01:58
Minty_BrownAnd when I do evtest event16 (that's the event it's listed under in the proc file), it detects it01:59
dancingdemoncan you please tell me the exact command?01:59
dancingdemonfilezilla is the right name for the excutable01:59
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apb1963_apb1963_: so... basically I have a later version of that file than is in the repos.  I don't see any option other than to downgrade it or purge it.01:59
apb1963_dammit01:59
apb1963_Bashing-om: ^^^^02:00
CherrixHi, I am a bit new to Ubuntu and have the following problem. Install -> HDMI out of range, nomodeset same result. no internal gpu. Gtx1080.. what do? can I add current nvidia driver into my ubuntu install usb?02:00
dirty_page_joedancingdemon, or you can input "filezilla" on a disk find app - and it will provably come w/ lots of filezillas files from the app tree - and the nyou can go down there and do whatever hacks02:00
Bashing-omapb1963_: Playing catch up .. and the plot thickens ,, the libkdecore5 package is from mint ! : http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/kubuntu-ppa_backports/trusty/main/base/libkdecore502:01
dirty_page_joedancingdemon, btw, youre not an infiltrated Microsoft agent trying to bring instabilty on Ubuntu community - are you? :D02:02
dancingdemonwhat lol/02:02
apb1963_Bashing-om: well... it's likely that it migrated over from 12.04 when I took a look at cinnamon for a minute.. .literally.  I used debootstrap to install 14.04 so it probably came from there.02:02
CherrixIsn't there an uptodate install version that works with todays gpus? I feel like I am trying to install a medieval software02:03
dirty_page_joeits time to leave02:03
dirty_page_joedancingdemon, go for it, wish you luck02:03
dancingdemondude so if i want to remove it and re-install it without changing the configuration that I had02:04
dancingdemonhow can that be done02:04
dancingdemonoh je left :(02:04
Bashing-omapb1963_: I like the idea to try and downgrade to what is in the repo  ' sudo apt install libkdecore5=4:4.13.3-0ubuntu0.3 ' . should do it .02:05
apb1963_ok02:06
Cherrix..soo.. if you dont have an internal gpu, and if nomodeset doesn't fix hdmi out of range, you just install ubuntu?02:07
Cherrixcant02:07
Bashing-omCherrix: Most depends on the hardware and if there is a driver for it . Is the OEM co-operative ?02:08
apb1963_Bashing-om:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157212/02:09
Cherrixwhat do you mean by OEM cooperative?02:09
arulmanihi02:09
CherrixI believe my gtx1080 and / or monitor are causing the problem02:09
seeit_anyone here have experience with apt-build?02:09
Cherrixi found several posts by people with that problem, most fixed it by using an onboard gpu, which i dont appear to have02:10
Cherrixthe others fixed it with nomodeset02:10
Cherrixi tried nomodeset twice, ended in same black hdmi out of range screen02:10
apb1963_Cherrix:OEM=Original Equipment Manufacturer ... of your hardware.  Some will talk to you...developers... some won't.02:10
Bashing-omapb1963_: Ouch ! " 111 to remove and 1 not upgraded. " .. All I know to do here is bite the bullet and do it .. as it has to be done , yes ?02:10
Cherrixso i was wondering why i cant just add the right nvidia to the usb installer, as you can do with windows02:10
CherrixWhy should Nvidia talk to me about ubuntu?02:11
apb1963_Bashing-om: It's just KDE stuff.  ubuntu doesn't depend on any of it.02:11
CherrixI tried to go somewhere to talk to ubuntu about my hdmi out of range problem02:11
apb1963_Bashing-om: And it won't remove any data in /home right?  So anything personal would be safe.  yes?02:11
apb1963_Cherrix: that's kind of strange that you don't have a gpu... what mamaboard do you have?02:12
Bashing-omCherrix: Did mthe manufacturer provide a driver or the specs to allow us to make a driver ? There are many closed devices out there . with proprietary stuff ( copywrite laws ) we can not touch it . so what is the hardware you are addressing ?02:12
Cherrixasus hero viii. Should it have one? the motherboard has got an hdmi slot and a displayport, but i found no option to enable onboard gpu in the bios, no mention of an onboard gpu in the board description, and i didnt get an image when i plugged the monitor into the motherboard hdmi02:13
Bashing-omapb1963_: personal stuff will not be touched .. the operating system we hope gets re-built .02:13
apb1963_Bashing-om: but KDE Isn't OS.. is it?  It's just a DE02:13
CherrixBash: I hope you are familiar with gtx 108002:14
Cherrixi m gonna look for a better description of the mainboard02:14
apb1963_Cherrix: Use your TAB key for name completion02:14
apb1963_Cherrix: check with #hardware about the details of your hardware02:14
Bashing-omCherrix: To see what hardware you have run terminal command - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' - for the graphics .02:15
apb1963_Cherrix:  or do what Bashing-om said :)02:15
Bashing-omapb1963_: wellll .. look at all those libraries that are to be replaced .. system !02:15
apb1963_I figured she'd learn how to turn on the gpu from them02:15
CherrixWhere am I supposed to run that terminal command in the ubuntu install menu?02:16
Bashing-omCherrix: gamming ? ya want a cutting edge driver .. we get that driver from our trusted PPA .02:16
apb1963_Bashing-om: yes but they're all kde libs02:16
CherrixI really just want an image on my ubuntu start screen02:16
Cherrixwith a mainstream gpu02:16
apb1963_Cherrix: yes, in a terminal.02:17
Cherrixwhere do i get a terminal with the usb-installer?02:17
CherrixIf I wasn't new to ubuntu I probably wouldnt be asking at all02:18
CherrixShouldnt my onboard gpu get listed in the windows hardware manager as well?02:18
Bashing-omCherrix: Cherrix See: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/106780/en-us . Now what have you gor installed . and is this hybrid graphics - the result of the above will tell us .02:18
apb1963_Cherrix: no worries.  That's why the channel is here :)02:19
Cherrix@bashing-om if i could enter an installed ubuntu, i could install the right drivers myself. i just cant install ubuntu02:19
apb1963_Bashing-om: She doesn't know how to pop a window from a liveusb02:19
Cherrixand i have a gtx 1080 and a maximus hero viii board02:19
apb1963_Bashing-om: and I'm not sure without looking at it.02:19
Bashing-omCherrix: well .. should be able to . 1) verified the .iso ; 2) verified a good copy to medium ; 3) tried the nomodeset boot option ?02:21
Cherrixhttp://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1151/MAXIMUS_VIII_HERO/E10343_MAXIMUS_VIII_HERO_UM_WEB.pdf this is the manual of the mainboard. It says nothing about an onboard gpu02:21
CherrixBashing-om: Please elaborate why you believe that the hdmi out of range problem is related to a broken iso?02:21
CherrixI tried nomodeset and it changed nothing. I might try again in a bit.02:22
Bashing-omCherrix: I can accept that hdmi is non-functional with nomodeset ; I am confused i guess if you can boot/onstall ubuntu ???02:23
CherrixBash, I cannot install ubuntu, because my screen is black. How do you install it without seeing anything?02:23
tom_hi02:25
reisioCherrix: try the minimal install image02:25
reisiotom_: hi02:25
apb1963_It does says there's an integrated graphics processor02:26
Cherrixthank you reisio, sounds promising. Let's hope ubuntu can access the network during installation?02:27
Cherrixit probably cant go via wlan, so i should connect the ethernet cable?02:27
reisioCherrix: well, that would always simplify things, yes02:27
Cherrixoh you are right apb02:27
reisioCherrix: you _can_ use wifi headless, but it's more work probably02:27
Cherrixso the board definitely should have an internal gpu02:28
Cherrixi m gonna try to switch hdmi to the mainboard again and reboot again02:28
Cherrixthen i ll try nomode once more02:28
Cherrixand then the mini iso02:28
apb1963_Cherrix: how many daughtercards do you have in your system?02:28
CherrixThank you very much02:28
Cherrixdaugthercards? you mean main gpus? 102:28
Bashing-omCherrix: Also UEFI saystem ? dual booting ? In that case you want to install in UEFI mode .02:29
Cherrixit says UEFI so i think so. I can select both a UEFI usb and just usb in the bios for boot02:29
apb1963_Cherrix: Your mamaboard has an interesting feature such that if you have a card plugged into the second slot, the first slot loses 8 bits..02:30
Bashing-om!dualboot | Cherrix02:30
ubottuCherrix: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot02:30
CherrixYeah Apb... I noticed that the hard way xD cost me 40 minutes or so to get that massive gpu out of the second slot and fix it into the first slot after noticing the wrong pcie speed02:30
Cherrixthat 1080 is extremely unwiedly02:30
Cherrixunwieldy02:30
reisioCherrix: a-p-b-TAB02:31
apb1963_Cherrix: page 1-18 of your manual02:31
Cherrixapb1963_:  test02:31
apb1963_Cherrix: you passed!02:31
reisiotestastic02:31
Bashing-omapb1963_: Are we downgraded ??02:31
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apb1963_Bashing-om: No I was waiting for you to give me the final go ahead02:32
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Cherrixapb1963_:  yes i figured that pice speed feature out while putting the pc together. As I said unfortunately only after starting the pc the first time, so had to move the gpu to the other slot afterwards... which usually would be a 2 minute thing.. but it suuuuuuuuuuuucks with this gtx1080 xD02:32
Bashing-omapb1963_: I can think of no other viable option .. we do need a versioned foundation .. that version is what is in the repo !02:33
Cherrixbrb trying things02:34
apb1963_Bashing-om: command given.  status...proceeding.02:35
apb1963_Bashing-om: Processing triggers.02:36
SpaceAceI just upgraded ubuntu to 16.04 from an older version, and now my display just turns off and on at the login screen02:36
SpaceAceintel onboard gpu02:37
Bashing-omSpaceAce: Proprietary driver in the old release ? and now broke in the upgrade ?02:37
SpaceAcecould be the reason. what's the best driver now for intel chipsets?02:37
Bashing-omSpaceAce: IF it is Intel only .. what Intel provides us in the kernel is the best there is .02:38
SpaceAcehmm02:39
SpaceAcei don't know how to fix it02:39
SpaceAcei seem to be using the right driver02:39
SpaceAcei shouldn't have upgraded. damn02:39
apb1963_Bashing-om: OK... back to installing DE?02:40
apb1963_Bashing-om: ha!  look what I just found in my history:02:42
apb1963_ 1196  cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-backports-trusty.list02:42
apb1963_ 1197  ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports02:42
Bashing-omapb1963_: Yeah .. I too think that is logical .. see now what results .02:42
Bashing-omapb1963_: Yeah ! /// should have done a PPA purge .. manybe can be of some good yet .02:42
tyraceyWorld jewry is in a mad dash to shut down internet activists who have been effectively exposing jewish criminality and initiating a movement to rid ourselves of jewish tyranny.02:44
tyraceyhttp://www.renegadetribune.com/jewrys-move-shut-down-online-anti-semitism/02:44
reisioheh02:44
Bashing-omapb1963_: does the fetch for the PPA still exist ? ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .02:44
apb1963_Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157293/02:45
Bashing-omSpaceAce: Athough, is the driver loaded ? ' sudo lshw -C display ' .02:45
SpaceAceBashing-om, looks to be: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157298/02:46
__pandaIs there a reason for, when I go into suspend, I have to restart my network manager ?02:47
Bashing-omapb1963_: Let's check the sourcs,list .. make sure that PPA packages do not get re-installed ! ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* '02:47
apb1963_Bashing-om: is that not the exact same command as before?02:48
SpaceAcehmm maybe it's the login screen crashing02:50
SpaceAceI can't switch to terminals or anything02:50
SpaceAcejust goes black, comes back for 5 seconds, then black again02:50
Bashing-omapb1963_: Yes .. but I have yet to see the output from tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* that I expect to see .02:50
SpaceAcei originally had an auto login to kodi running. where can i find that?02:50
apb1963_Bashing-om: what I posted isn't what you expected to see?  What's wrong with it?02:51
apb1963_Bashing-om: well I posted the wrong thing that's what wrong with it.  derp02:51
Bashing-omapb1963_: in terminal run ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' see a great huge difference .02:51
SpaceAceah! libva info: va_openDriver() returns 002:52
apb1963_Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157315/  Sorry!02:53
Huliohi guys02:54
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u-danielhola02:55
apb1963_OerHeks: before I forget... thanks for your help!02:56
Bashing-omapb1963_: Commented out .. are we now good to go ? what now with ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install' ?02:57
apb1963_Bashing-om: ok... haven't done the desktop yet...  right?02:58
stewartroot0Hello02:59
reisio'lo02:59
stewartroot0EIRMMSTROIEEOMMJNGIHRODZ000003:01
* apb1963_ waits patiently for a response03:01
MextryHi03:02
reisioohai03:03
Bashing-omapb1963_: right .. try again ' sudo apt install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop ' .03:03
Mextryo.O03:03
apb1963_Bashing-om: so... DE first then general upgrade?03:03
Mextryspeak portugues?03:04
bazhang!br03:04
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.03:04
reisio/msg alis list *ubunt*pt03:04
bazhangMextry, ^03:04
reisiowow, real low numbers03:04
Bashing-omapb1963_: No, I think 1st is to make sure the package manager is consistent and it finds no faults at this time prior to attempting to re-install the desktop .03:04
apb1963_apb1963_: OK that's what I was trying to clarify.  Will do.03:05
stryakrIs there an issue with getting an crypto request for password on 'none03:06
stryakrwhen updating packages?03:06
apb1963_Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157353/03:07
Bashing-omapb1963_: why do you not want to accept the update for  python-software-properties ? That is a biggy .03:10
apb1963_Bashing-om: Not that I don't... just want to make sure I do,03:10
Bashing-omapb1963_: Oh we do, we do !  ..03:11
apb1963_Bashing-om: lol  k03:11
apb1963_done03:12
apb1963_Bashing-om: happy as a clam03:12
dinkerHi03:12
apb1963_Bashing-om: now desktop?03:12
Bashing-omapb1963_: so far so good .. and ' sudo apt -f install ' says no problems too ? and dpkg is happy happy ' sudo dpkg -C ' ?? then we re-install the DE .03:13
apb1963_Bashing-om: Setting up python-software-properties (0.92.37.7) ...........03:13
apb1963_0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.03:14
Bashing-om!info python-software-propertie trusty03:14
ubottuPackage python-software-propertie does not exist in trusty03:14
Bashing-om!info python-software-properties trusty03:15
ubottupython-software-properties (source: software-properties): manage the repositories that you install software from. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.92.37.7 (trusty), package size 19 kB, installed size 135 kB03:15
__pandaanyone know how i can get a c++ inv03:16
apb1963_Bashing-om: 523 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.03:17
apb1963_Need to get 223 MB/230 MB of archives.03:17
apb1963_After this operation, 756 MB of additional disk space will be used.... Want to see the list or just go ahead?03:17
bazhang__panda, no invite needed, perhaps you need to register, askin #freenode for help with that03:17
Bashing-omapb1963_: go ahead ,,, in for a penny in for a pound .,.. see this through to the end .03:18
apb1963_Bashing-om: Oakley dokely.  See you on the other side.  Should be awhile.03:19
Bashing-omapb1963_: All we can do at this point .. good there is not data cap !03:19
reisio__panda.invite03:19
__panda@bazhang I am registered.03:20
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SpaceAceso the screen is still just switching on and off03:22
SpaceAcei've tried switching from DVI to the HDMI port03:22
SpaceAcei see nothing in the logs03:22
apb1963_Bashing-om: yeah no kidding!  Wish there were no speed cap :/03:22
SpaceAceevery minute or so it goes black for 2 secs03:22
nicomachusSpaceAce: hardware issue?03:22
SpaceAceunlikely, nicomachus. i just upgraded03:23
SpaceAceubuntu upgrade, i mean03:23
SpaceAceit's a driver issue somewhere. this is my media center03:23
nicomachuswhat's the graphics setup?03:23
SpaceAceintel integrated03:23
apb1963_Bashing-om: good time to take a break03:23
SpaceAcei'm reinstalling the drivers from the intel site03:23
SpaceAceusing their tool03:24
SpaceAcei shouldn't have fiddled with my working setup03:24
SpaceAcebut i was sick of the nag screen for upgrading03:25
apb1963_Bashing-om: reconvene in about 30 minutes?03:25
Bashing-omapb1963_: Yeah .. sound good . see then what we have .. do some look'n and resetting of grub before we rebbot .03:28
nicomachusSpaceAce: is this a laptop?03:32
SpaceAcenope03:33
SpaceAcea desktop repurposed03:33
SpaceAceit's happening in terminal, lightdm login screen, everywhere03:33
SpaceAcesomeone suggested changing grub to put nomodeset=003:33
nicomachusboot up a live USB and see if it happens there.03:33
nicomachusif it does, then it's probably a hardware issue.03:34
SpaceAcethis just happened after i ran the upgrade script, so definitely not hardware03:34
SpaceAcebut i'll check03:34
nicomachuscould just be bad timing03:34
furiousgreenHey, are utterly noob questions welcome here?03:34
nicomachussure03:34
nicomachusthose are the only ones I can answer sometimes03:34
SpaceAcesame03:35
Bashing-omfuriousgreen: so long as ubuntu related . sure .. only dumb question is the one not asked .03:35
prettyinseattleWorld jewry is in a mad dash to shut down internet activists who have been effectively exposing jewish criminality and initiating a movement to rid ourselves of jewish tyranny.03:36
prettyinseattlehttp://www.renegadetribune.com/jewrys-move-shut-down-online-anti-semitism/03:36
nicomachus!ops | prettyinseattle, changing usernames03:36
ubottuprettyinseattle, changing usernames: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu03:36
furiousgreenAlright, mine's in two pieces. 1) I have a USB installed with 16.04 the recommended way - through Rufus. When I insert the USB into my Windows 10 computer, and reboot, it does nothing03:38
furiousgreenI heard that's a regular issue?03:38
nicomachusfuriousgreen: you'll have to press a key to get to your boot menu, as it's first booting. Usually F12. it'll briefly say.03:39
furiousgreenMmhm. Then change the boot order to USB? I'll try that now, but I think I have  tried that in the past.03:40
furiousgreenBe right back one way or another03:40
nicomachusfuriousgreen: yes03:41
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speeeediyHi all03:50
apb1963_Bashing-om: back in 15 minutes but here's something to chew on in case you get back early.  It all looks good.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157461/03:51
rud0lfhi. i have an entry in crontab that plays wave by sox's 'play' command.. when i launch teamspeak it blocks it so it can't be heard until teamspeak is closed, but play works well while entered in terminal03:52
rud0lfi have no idea what cron doesn't have that terminal has03:52
glitchdhello all03:53
glitchdim using xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu 16.04.1 is it ok to ask some questions in here related to xubuntu?03:54
glitchdnot getting any response in #xubuntu03:55
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nicomachusglitchd: yes03:58
glitchdnicomachus, thx03:59
glitchdi use my tv as my monitor(HDMI) i also use the tv as the speakers, i set the sound device to hdmi but whenever the screen saver kicks on, or i blank the screen(which i tend to do instead of waiting for the screensaver to turn on) the sound device reverts back to the analog output and i have to go back into the gui of the sound settings and reselect the hdmi output device. is there any way to stop it from switching whenever the04:02
glitchdscreensaver turns on or i blank the screen?04:02
glitchdnicomachus, ^^04:02
Bashing-omapb1963_: :) ,, 9115 lines from the package manager ,,, and stlll counting . so far so good .04:03
nicomachusglitchd: in a terminal, type "pactl stat" to see your current default sound device04:05
selig5how do I insert a command into the file system that will cause ssh to be installed on reboot? I have a ubuntu minimal installation but the screen is so garbled that I can't do anything with it but I can edit files on the install from a live cd (Tiny Core)04:06
glitchdnicomachus, should i paste the output in here or should i pm you?04:07
nicomachusglitchd: paste at paste.ubuntu.com and link here04:07
glitchdnicomachus, ok04:07
nicomachusbut also include the output of "pactl list"04:07
Rarrikinsselig5: sudo apt install openssh-client04:07
reisioselig5: ctrl+alt+f2 ?04:07
Noasysrepurposing old laptop into kitchen digital center. Any cool ideas? setting it up to reach internet, store recipe's, media player, etc....feels like i'm missing something?04:07
Rarrikinsselig5: If you're operating on a Live CD, that won't work.04:08
nicomachusyou'd have to mount the installation, chroot into it, and then install04:08
selig5Rarrikins: I can't input the command in the terminal. I need to edit a file with a live CD. The terminal is messed up.04:09
nicomachusselig5: boot into the live CD, mount the installation, chroot into it, and then install ssh04:09
glitchdnicomachus, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157633/04:09
selig5nicomachus: OK, I'll try that, thanks04:12
nicomachusglitchd: now, 'echo "set-default-sink alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.hdmi-stereo.monitor" | pacmd'04:12
apb1963_Bashing-om: You're counting, or it's counting?04:12
apb1963_Bashing-om: because it's all done.04:13
glitchdnicomachus, echo "set-default-sink alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.hdmi-stereo.monitor" | pacmd: command not found04:13
glitchdnicomachus, thats what the output was04:13
glitchdnicomachus, should it start with pactl?04:14
apb1963_Bashing-om: just ran it again.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157644/04:15
Bashing-omapb1963_: Maybe it is paste.ubuntu.com that is counting .04:15
apb1963_Bashing-om: It sounded like you meant there was something missing.  Apparently there was.  See last paste.04:15
nicomachusglitchd: try it this way: 'pacmd set-default-sink "alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.hdmi-stereo.monitor"04:16
apb1963_Bashing-om:  or there wasn't.  I don't  know.  We good to move on to grub?04:16
nicomachusglitchd: sorry, 'pacmd set-default-sink "alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.hdmi-stereo" '04:18
Bashing-omapb1963_: Look'm good yeah .. grub ,, for now lets leave in in MBR ; ' sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda ; sudo update-grub ' . then we check that you have authority to access the desktop .04:19
fakamhey guys i installed kubuntu over windows, and now it says no boot device @_@04:19
glitchdnicomachus, ok lol the other one just output to a ">"04:19
nicomachusfakam: you're sure you installed it and didn't just delete Windows?04:19
fakami totally deleted windows wanted nix full time and now i have no boot and keep reinstalling but no avial04:19
fakami did full guided install to take over windows04:20
fakamit installed, but now I get no boot device :(04:20
fakaminstalled it twice04:20
nicomachuswhat disk did you install it to?04:20
fakamsda04:20
fakammy main disk04:20
glitchdnicomachus, pacmd set-default-sink "alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.hdmi-stereo" : command not found04:21
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Guest72112hi04:21
nicomachusfakam: are you sure your main disk in sda? sometimes the USB will get mounted as sda and the main disk will be sdb04:21
apb1963_Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157660/04:21
fakamhow do i fix this I have no pc lol04:21
fakamit has to be because, it has 1tb04:22
Phaneshello, im getting a 404 when i do a dist upgrade from wily, and the 404's are from ppa.launchpad.net wly/main amd64 Packages and i386 packages?04:22
nicomachusPhanes: paste a full output of it to paste.ubuntu.com and link here. much easier that way.04:22
nicomachusfakam: does the install fail at any point, or does it say it's successful?04:22
fakamnope it says successful then reboots and says no boot device04:23
Phanesnicomachus, apt-get update results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157664/04:23
Bashing-omapb1963_: Looks great too ., ok authority ' ls -al .Xauthority ; ls -al .ICEauthority '.04:24
fakami'm in the kde install disk.. stuck with no os :(04:24
nicomachusPhanes: that PPA doesn't have a wily source.04:24
Phanesnicomachus, what do you mean?  can you use identifiers?04:25
RarrikinsPhanes: 15.10 is no longer supported. You should upgrade to 16.04.04:25
PhanesRarrikins, i would love to04:25
Phanesi did an apt-get dist-upgrade just before this04:25
fakami did guided use entire disk and now i have no boot device04:25
nicomachusPhanes: Wily is no longer supported anyway, as Rarrikins said04:25
Phanesffs04:25
nicomachuswhich is why they don't have a PPA for it anymore04:25
Phanesim trying to upgrade04:25
nicomachushttp://ppa.launchpad.net/nvbn-rm/ppa/ubuntu/dists/04:25
nicomachus!EOLupgrade | Phanes04:25
ubottuPhanes: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades04:25
fakamanyone04:26
nicomachusfakam: just hold on a second. thinking.04:26
apb1963_Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157671/04:26
fakamsda3 is swap04:26
Phanesnicomachus, ok, stop helping, you're not helping.  dont pretend to answer if you're not answering, i know it's EOL that's why im moving to xenial, i did a apt-get dist upgrade, which seemed to go okay, saw i was still in wily, so ran an apt-get update and saw that, so, if you have any suggestions on moving forward instead of telling me things i already know that'd just be great04:26
fakamsda1 is 38mb  ubuntu ext404:27
fakamsda1 is fat3204:27
nicomachusPhanes: well that's not how you upgrade to 16.04. You do it by clicking the link I sent with the !EOLupgrade command, and following the instructions.04:27
fakamsda is is 1tb ata wdc, sorry nicomachus  kinda freekin out lol04:27
fakamsda1 is efi04:28
glitchdfakam, sounds like the partitioning didnt go correctly on you hd04:28
Bashing-omapb1963_: .Xauthority ??04:28
fakamsda1 is efi?04:29
fakamsorry04:29
apb1963_Phanes: On another related distribution I had semi-similar problems.  I removed all lines from /etc/apt/sources (equivalent) file and added just the required ones for the new distribution.  Fixed me.  I don't know if it will work for you, I don't claim to be any kind of expert.04:29
fakamshould the bootloader be on the efi or sda2 which is  my 1tb drive04:29
Phanesapb1963_, ill keep looking around04:29
apb1963_Bashing-om: weird... hang on04:29
Phanesapb1963_, thanks04:29
glitchdnicomachus, thx for all the help your handing out in here. much appreciated.04:30
nicomachusPhanes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades follow the instructions. you'll be up and running in no time.04:30
RarrikinsPhanes: To upgrade, use `do-release-upgrade`. It will disable things like PPAs.04:30
Phanesnicomachus, reading now thanks04:31
nicomachusRarrikins: that won't work when he's on an EOL release.04:31
RarrikinsOh04:31
apb1963_Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157677/04:31
nicomachusnormally it would, though. but you have to do it before the EOL data.04:31
nicomachuss/data/date04:31
fakam....04:31
pfluxwhois pflux04:32
nicomachusyou are04:32
glitchdfakam,  i believe the bootloader should be on the drive your installing linux to04:32
fakami guess i will and try and put the boot loader on my sda2 which is my main drive04:32
pfluxi know. :D04:32
Phanespflux, nice sock puppet04:32
Phanespflux, what'd you get banned for?04:32
fakami thought it had to be on the efi04:32
pfluxi didnt got banned04:33
Phanesok04:33
pfluxIm just new to irc and checking if im connected trough ssl04:33
Bashing-omapb1963_: looka all good . Can you think of a reason now why not to reboot and see what there is ?04:33
fakamok gonna try and do the boot loader brb  :(04:33
Phanesyou dont appear to be04:33
apb1963_Bashing-om: can't say I do04:34
glitchdfakam, if your drives are sda1, sda2, etc, then it needs to be installed to sda04:34
apb1963_Bashing-om: can't say I can either04:34
Phanesoh SSL i thought you meant SASL, you are using a secure connection pflux04:34
fakami tried sda and it wont boot says i have no devices04:34
Phanespflux, but if youre actually concerned about that, you really should be using SASL04:34
apb1963_ohhh... I get to play with ssl later when we're all done fixing me... yay04:34
Bashing-omapb1963_: Me neither .. reboot .. and see .04:34
apb1963_Bashing-om: will do.  keep your fingers toes and eyes crossed.04:35
glitchdfakam, that was super quick, are you doing this on another machine?04:35
fakami didn't do it yet04:35
fakamim on the temp kubuntu disk04:35
guzzlefryI'm using wifi for internet, which works fine until I connect an ethernet cable between my computer and file server. It looks like it's trying to route traffic though the ethernet interface now. How can I prevent that?04:35
glitchdon another machine?04:35
glitchdor the same one?04:36
nicomachussame one, i think04:36
pfluxPhanes, im just trying things out.04:36
Phaneshe tried it and it says he has no devices, yet he hasn't done it yet04:36
Phanessupport troll!04:36
glitchd* or the one that your attempting to install linux to?04:36
glitchdim just clarifying..04:36
fakami installed on sda but it wont boot so i will try sda2 idk i'm freeking out because i need an os lol04:36
glitchdcalm down04:36
nicomachus+104:37
fakamok04:37
glitchdmake sure your putting in command exactly how they need to be04:37
apb1963_Bashing-om: OK, I have boot menu of Xenial 16.04 and Ubuntu (no version specified)04:37
Phanesfakam, get out a notepad and write down everything you try on a line in order so that you can explain what you've tried04:37
glitchd^^^what he said04:37
Phanesfakam, it'll save you alot of back and forth.  try to keep each attempt on one line.  you've now been introduced to the scientific journaling process and should do this in some form or another in all of your projects.04:37
apb1963_Bashing-om:  Go with Ubuntu and see what we get I guess04:38
fakami have installed nix before and the guided "use all drive" worked but this is not lol04:38
fakamok04:38
Anders_Hjoin #slatestarcodex04:38
Anders_Hwhoops04:38
Anders_Hthat was meant as a command04:38
* Phanes turns into an F16 and flies into the sunset04:38
glitchdfakam, did you let it partition everything itself?04:38
glitchdor you did your own thing?>04:39
Bashing-omapb1963_: No way ! .. huh ? booting as sda 1st priority .. then 16.04 is no longer in the picture . or should not be !04:39
glitchdlike i said before it sounds like the drive did not get partitioned correctly and left everything as free space instead of making partitinos04:40
glitchdpartitions04:40
glitchdwell apparently he quit before i sent that last message04:41
glitchdnicomachus, so back to the hdmi sound issue lol04:41
glitchdnicomachus, the output of the second command you gave me waspacmd set-default-sink "alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.hdmi-stereo" : command not found04:42
apb1963_Bashing-om: Well, I booted Ubuntu... (not Xenial) and we have GUI04:42
glitchdnicomachus, *the output of the second command you gave me was pacmd set-default-sink "alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.hdmi-stereo" : command not found04:42
apb1963_Bashing-om: only 1 failure... not sure if it was crash reporter or samba.. but  if it was samba then no worries.  However... it's taking its sweet time giving me a desktop.04:43
fakamokay gentlefolk, i'm doing a fresh install, I have one drive which is a 1tb drive(sda)  do you suggest I use the guided - use entire disk(which has nothing) or manual? Thanks04:43
apb1963_Bashing-om: yeah... no desktop ... just the pretty background...  my printer daemon says "No system tray"04:44
guzzlefryah, just kidding, it was hidden in the network manager GUI :P04:45
reisiofakam: if you don't know, guided will be fine04:45
fakamand if I do guided and it successfully installs, but does not boot.. what should one do next?04:45
apb1963_Bashing-om: I see "Elarun" and nothing else... but an "activities" icon in the corner (which I've yet to figure out what it's for).  No menu, no other icons.04:45
apb1963_Bashing-om: "New Activity" not activities04:46
apb1963_Bashing-om: definite progress!!!04:47
Bashing-omapb1963_: At this blank desktop . keu combo ctl+alt+t work to get a termimnal ?04:48
glitchdnicomachus, any more helpfulness for my hdmi sound?04:49
apb1963_Bashing-om: No... but a right click will let me run a command... as will logging into a VT :)04:50
apb1963_Bashing-om: or even sshing in04:50
Bashing-omapb1963_: Well my knowledge of KDE is not up to this task will take a lot of time to figure out how to restore the icons ; A task for tomorrow as I am done for this session .04:52
apb1963_Bashing-om: Sure... I can ask about that in KDE... but is there any reason not to try and boot 16.04 ?04:53
apb1963_Bashing-om: most of the time it's a matter of moving .kde to .kde.old and letting it regenerate the defaults... but like you say... a task for another time.  I'm just interested in seeing if 16.04 works and if I can continue with it at this point.04:55
Bashing-omapb1963_: That ability should NOT be present now from the 14.04 install . If it is there in that install .. then we purge grub ,, and start all over .04:55
apb1963_Bashing-om: hmm04:55
apb1963_Bashing-om: ok... you up for that now... or pickup tomorrow?04:56
Bashing-omapb1963_: Pick it up tomorrow . Remember, we are working to have 16.04 as the boot control .04:57
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t2mknanyone help me speedup graphics performance of Ubuntu 16.04.1 on VirtualBox installation05:40
t2mknm not good at VB or Ubuntu05:40
t2mknwhen I drag any window on VB it seems like no graphics at all05:41
t2mkn3D support is enabled on VB05:41
t2mknwhat else i am missing05:41
baizont2mkn: guest additions05:43
t2mknbaizon: yes installed in virtualbox with default setup05:43
t2mknfresh one05:43
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shrednaHi everyone, trying to make a manual wired network between two computers, but when I try to set the address and netmask settings the netmask gets reset to the value 24 instead of 255.255.255.0 - any idea why?06:22
shrednaUsing crossover cable btw06:22
kuguhk!06:23
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shrednaAnd ubuntu 16.0406:24
kuguhkhi06:24
guivercnetmask /24 is a shorthand of 255.255.255.0 ; so you may be worrying about nothing.06:25
anticensoredi need an installer disc for ubuntu06:26
anticensoredi tried download and it said it will take 167 hours06:26
anticensoredbecause my connection sucks06:26
anticensoredso i need a disc but I cant get mail, here in the african jungle where i do charity work06:27
anticensoredi have satellite but the tree canopy cuts it down to a few Kbps06:27
ducasseanticensored: download the mini.iso?06:27
t0rWh0r3fucking trees06:27
anticensoredwhats that?06:27
ducasse!mini | anticensored06:28
guivercshredna: netmask /24 is a shorthand of 255.255.255.0 ; so you may be worrying about nothing.06:28
ducasseanticensored: it's a minimal installer, install everything over the network.06:28
anticensoredducasse: i think i heard of it once06:28
shrednaguiverc: oh, thanks!06:28
ayush:help06:29
anticensoreddoesn't it still have to download all the stuff, just does it while installing?06:29
anticensoredMy connection is no better on the PC its being installed on06:29
t0rWh0r3"/24" is a "CIDR prefix"06:29
ducasseanticensored: yes, but you download only what you need.06:29
anticensoredi'm over 150 miles from a faster connection06:29
anticensoredi cant download hardly anything.06:29
anticensoredtakes forever just to load a page of google results06:29
anticensoredim in the south african jungle on a shitty satellite connection06:30
t0rWh0r3anticensored, you could try "slitaz" linux it has a desktop and is only 50mb06:30
t0rWh0r3but its not debian based06:30
anticensoredim here for the next year  to help teach feral niggers how to grow corn, and how to wipe their ass06:30
faekjarzHi! i disabled iscsi (systemctl disable iscsi) and expected to be able to re-enable it with "systemctl enable iscsi", but nope. How do i re-enable a service?06:30
baizonehh troll :/06:31
faekjarzbaizon: not me (?)06:31
baizonfaekjarz: no no, the anticencored guy06:31
faekjarzm)06:32
t0rWh0r3has anybody here some expirence with bumblebee installation on 14.0406:33
shrednaNext problem is I can't get network connection to work (crossover cable between windows 10 and ubuntu 16.04) - when i ping the windows box "Network is unreachable" and "Destination host unreachable" on the other end. I've set ip adresses up manually.06:38
t0rWh0r3i suppos you need to setup "HOMENETWORK" in Windows but im not sure06:40
ducasseshredna: 100mbit or gigabit?06:40
guivercshredna:  i'd enter 'ip addr; ip route' in ubuntu box; to ensure it has connection & has accepted the capacity to route traffic externally.  ps: haven't used a crossover cable between pcs in decade+06:44
shrednaducasse: the ubuntu box only supports 100mbit I think06:45
shrednat0rWh0r3: I'll try looking that up, but I somehow thought that was for filesharing? (I only need UDP connection)06:46
shrednaguiverc: I tried those commands but don't know what to look for? ;-)06:50
shrednaguiverc: yeah, the ubuntu box is kinda old, I thouht06:51
t0rWh0r3shredna, your network location must be set to "private" if its "public" then it will not work, you should take a look on microsoft support page06:51
guivercshredna: with the "ip addr" - key is UP and not DOWN on interface06:53
superguestI am having a sound problem with Firefox where it causes CubebUtils to resetsthe volume to 0%06:53
superguestwhats06:53
superguestthis happens when watching videos on Youtube06:54
guivercshredna: on "ip route"; that your local network 192.168.1.0/24 (or whatever you've chosen, could be just single address) is routed to the UP device in other command06:54
superguestWhat I need to do is to manually adjust the sound in 'System Settings->Sound->Application->CubebUtils'06:55
superguestbut it will reset again as soon as I skip to different part of the video stream.06:56
shrednaguiverc: ok, from ip addr, the ethernet interface seems to be UP, ip route mentions the ip of the interface so I think that should be ok?06:56
UbuntuDu1eI'm using xenial and this is the second time I figure out firefox settings have been changed to use (local proxy) without asking me or even knowing what is local proxy is running on my system? have I been hacked or what?06:57
guivercshredna: can't help with the windoze end... been awhile since i had the displeasure (thankfully)06:58
UbuntuDu1ehttps://snag.gy/xwG9Ve.jpg06:58
shrednaguiverc: ;-) thanks anyway07:00
guivercshredna:  quick icmp play... I get 'dest host unreach' for a non-answer...    the "network unreachable" is seems to imply bad|no connection to me..07:00
shrednat0rWh0r3: I'm looking into how to change to private mode07:01
guivercshredna: which end gave the "network unreachable"? err07:02
shrednaguiverc: ubuntu - "Network is unreachable"07:03
ZoFIs 2017 truly the year of the Linux Desktop?07:03
shrednaguiverc: windows - "Destination host unreachable"07:04
ZoFshredna: what is your issue?(I just joined)07:05
t0rWh0r3shredna, this could maybe help "http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/6815-network-location-set-private-public-windows-10-a.html?ltr=N"07:05
ZoFCan you give me the IP? ICMP traffice is prob disabled if the box is up and ping is resulting in those messages07:05
shrednaZoF: I can't get a local network connection to work (crossover cable between windows 10 and ubuntu 16.04) - when i ping the windows box "Network is unreachable" and "Destination host unreachable" on the other end. I've set ip adresses up manually. I only07:07
shrednaNeed to use UDP between the boxes07:07
ZoFshredna: what's your IP/netmask/gateway? Are you doing this through the ubuntu gui on the ubuntu box?07:09
t0rWh0r3you can lookup ip settings in windows with ipconfig.exe07:10
shrednaZoF: yes using the GUI, I've set the ip adresses to 192.168.1.2 and 192.168.1.3 and netmask 255.255.255.007:12
ZoFCool, so you're using the stackoverflow defaults :-p do both of these have a single network interface? If you're wired/wireless on one of them you might have routing table issues07:14
ZoFI would also use stackoverflow defaults fyi ^^^^ wasn't trying to be a dick07:14
shrednaZoF: no probs, I'm a beginner here ;-) but yeah, both boxes have wifi but the interfaces are disabled07:15
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kheanyone managed to install diablo 2 + lod on ubuntu 16.04? seems to be no current threads on it on the forum.07:19
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shrednaZoF: i.e. only the ethernet cards are enabled07:21
detlywhat's the boot script system using in 16.04? (upstart, sysv init, systemd, etc)?07:33
baizondetly: depends on the versionj07:34
detlybaizon: version of what?07:34
baizondetly: of ubuntu07:35
ducassedetly: it's systemd07:35
detlybaizon: I said 16.04 ;)07:35
detlyducasse: thanks!07:35
baizondetly: sorry didnt see that, since 15.04 its systemd, until 14.10 its upstart07:36
gurkanHello! Im wondering if this two "how to" are both official. Because I just used the first one, but I noticed that they are not exactly the same. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/how-to-verify and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto ?07:44
ducassegurkan: the second one is written by volunteers07:45
siiminHi all! Any experts in networking here? Trying to ssh to a raspberry pi running ubuntu-MATE from ubuntu. Can't ping it either. I can ubuntu from the raspberry.07:46
baizongurkan: whats the difference?07:46
gurkanducasse: Ah okey :). Because I noticed this difference: gpg --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "8439 38DF 228D 22F7 B374 2BC0 D94A A3F0 EFE2 1092" "C598 6B4F 1257 FFA8 6632 CBA7 4618 1433 FBB7 5451" and gpg --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 0xFBB75451 0xEFE21092. But it will be the same inb the end if I understand it right? :)07:47
ducassegurkan: you should always use the full fingerprint for keys, the short fingerprint is vulnerable to collision attacks07:48
detlysiimin: how's it connected? central router that both machines are on?07:48
guivercsiimin: expert not me.. but i've done it heaps..  if you go to pi; login; can you "ssh localhost" to ensure its up & running, not stopped by firewall etc...07:48
user__hello07:48
gurkanducasse: Alright! So the first one wich was not written by the community is the right way to go? (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/how-to-verify)07:49
user__error grub rescue windows 707:49
user___07:49
ducassegurkan: if that is the one with the full fingerprints, that's what i would use07:49
user__sa07:49
guivercuser_: sorry don't understand; problem with grub; w7 won't load?07:50
siimindetly, I have 2 routers. One router with wifi enabled and another with it disabled. Internet connectet to router 1 WAN and from that router LAN to router 2 WAN. The ubuntu computer is on the wifi on router 1 and the pi is on router 2.07:51
siiminguiverc, tried that already and it's working07:51
detlysiimin: if you can, try connecting them both to the one router, and then see if there's problems when they're on separate07:52
detlysiimin: oh, and are you sshing in via the IP address, or by name?07:52
gurkanducasse: Thanks alot for the help :)07:52
siimindetly, I was thinking that it could be the cause. And I use the IP-address07:52
ducassegurkan: no problem :)07:53
guivercsiimin:  i'd ping each of the routers from either end (pc & pi) to ensure connection to each is working; and where 'break' is.07:53
siimindetly, I can ssh to it via putty from a computer that's on the same router as the pi07:53
ducassesiimin: your problem seems to be the router setup, try ##networking07:54
siimindetly, yes of course. Thanks for the tip. I can't ping router 2 but the other way it works fine.07:54
siiminducasse, Thanks for the help :)07:55
detlysiimin: okay, I'm not too good with the router level stuff, but it sounds like it's a config problem "above" the OS level, if you see what I mean07:55
siimindetly, I see, and I agree :). Thanks for the help!07:56
siimin'07:58
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satpalCan i upgrade from ubuntu 14 to ubuntu 16 lts directly?08:09
6A4ABP0IHneed advice: does mixing the use of "apt-get" and "apt" cause problems?08:09
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satpalapt nd apt-get are differnent commands. do not use them interchangeably08:10
guiverc6A4...:  apt is not identical to apt-get; so some options such as 'apt-get -f install' can't be done with apt08:10
satpalCan i upgrade from ubuntu 14 to ubuntu 16 lts directly?08:12
6A4ABP0IHas always do when i go debian/ubuntu, i ran apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. but then i read that apt update && apt full-upgrade are the "new" way to do it.08:12
guivercsatpal:  ubuntu 14 I'm assuming is 14.04..    http://askubuntu.com/questions/801488/how-do-i-upgrade-from-14-04-lts-to-16-04-1-lts08:13
6A4ABP0IHafter that i install some packages using apt install xy... now i'm a little worried if this mixing up would cause problems08:13
6A4ABP0IHinstalled*08:13
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satpalso can i upgrade?08:13
guiverc6A4A...:  you can use either. switching from one to other won't muck things up.08:14
leeyaahello08:14
troggiehi all08:15
6A4ABP0IHthanks, guiverc08:15
leeyaaafter update to xenial my e1000e devices became unstable. this is from dmesg https://bpaste.net/show/0e2b174fbab408:15
leeyaaany idea what causes it ?08:15
leeyaaand how to fix it08:15
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leeyaai worked around it by setting ethtool -K ethX gso off gro off tso off but this is a bad fix08:15
troggieplease can someone help me, I have upgrade my server to the latest 4.4.0-36-generic kernel, when I reboot, mdadm gives me an error " create group not found" and 2 of my arrays arent create. How do i over come this ?08:16
leeyaatroggie: fix your mdadm config. dont relay on defaults08:17
Guest2467Hi, my touchpad has stopped working. When I type synclient -l in terminal, I get this error message:"Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"08:17
troggiewhat do i set my group=disk to ?08:17
troggiedo i change this: CREATE owner=root group=disk mode=0660 auto=yes to CREATE owner=root group=root mode=0660 auto=yes08:18
guiverctroggie:  i'm no expert, but i'd use your settings prior to upgrade as your guide... scan what it was before (from backups if you didn't note)   & be careful with creates.08:20
t0rWh0r3Gdamn it! How could bumblebee made it into official repository? Every single entry in bumblebee.conf is wrong or missig. wtf?08:20
troggieguiverc, nothing has changed from 4.4.0-24-generic, to .4.0-36-generic08:20
thomasfustonAloha, is there a way to turn off the app starter shortcuts? i dont like apps to start when i press <super> + <number>08:21
guivercsorry @troggie:  i'm probably mixing conversations... gotten too busy for me to keep up.08:21
troggieguiverc, all good :) 4.4.0-24-generic boots perfectly, 4.4.0-36-generic gives me the create group not found error08:22
guiverctroggie:  i can't help; no skilled enough..   i'd just use -24 kernel until fix is found. i assume you still have it installed.08:27
troggiei do thanks guiverc , pitty this is happening for an LTS release08:27
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troggieguiverc, found the issue. Needed to tidy upi my madadm.conf file and only declare one set of arrays (no duplicates) and it booted08:34
Guest2467Hi, my touchpad has stopped working. When I type synclient -l in terminal, I get this error message:"Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"08:36
guiverctroggie: GREAT NEWS ! & well done.08:37
troggiethanks man08:37
troggienow i need to fix networking side :P08:37
guiverctroggie: if you said networking issue, i've forgotten.08:38
troggieall back online08:41
troggiethanks for you help guys08:41
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anwarhow do i upgrade to ubuntu 16.04 lts from terminal?08:50
guivercanwar: what are you running now?08:50
anwar14.0408:50
guivercanwar:  I'd suggest reading http://askubuntu.com/questions/801488/how-do-i-upgrade-from-14-04-lts-to-16-04-1-lts08:50
guivercanwar:  which really is update your 14.04 first; then sudo do-release-upgrade...08:51
anwarok08:51
imran help: are all libraries in Ubuntu 16.10 beta 1 complete and shipped?09:01
imranhelp: are all libraries in Ubuntu 16.10 beta 1 complete and shipped?09:03
MonkeyDust!16.10 | imran09:03
ubottuimran: Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) will be the 25th release of Ubuntu. It is due to be released in October 2016. Discussion in #ubuntu+109:03
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imranYeah i am running 16.10 and have issues installing Intel Driver deb while from Ubuntu software09:04
imrantwo dependencies are incomplete09:04
imranhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/2315840709:05
imranhere is the output09:05
MonkeyDustimran  type   /j #ubuntu+1, ask there09:05
imranoke09:05
Guest2467Hi, my touchpad has stopped working. When I type synclient -l in terminal, I get this error message:"Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"09:06
t0rWh0r3i <3 the new network device names in 16.04. It pure fun to type "iwconfig wlxgj2kjs90420040rfl3034503g8gjdhug ..." into the terminal09:08
bekksYou can change that if you want.09:09
t0rWh0r3how?09:09
jk^Hi, firts excuse for my english, i want to ask: If i use a program on windows to protect a folder by a password and encrypt its contents, manage it, change encryption algorithm, password, and just to open it i need this software... AFTER when i use ubuntu, if doesn't exist a version of this software for ubuntu, how can i open and manage that folder or folders?09:10
bekkst0rWh0r3: https://askubuntu.com/questions/767786/changing-network-interfaces-name-ubuntu-16-0409:10
ducassejk^: you can't.09:10
ducassejk^: you can try the windows software in wine or a vm.09:11
guivercjk^:  i'd use the software in windohs to make an unencrypted copy; then copy to ubuntu, then encrypt there if you are so inclined (by encrypting /home folder etc)...  my 2c09:12
bekksjk^: if you are using truecrypt/veracrypt, then it might be possible - otherwise it isnt.09:14
Guest2467Hi, my touchpad has stopped working. When I type synclient -l in terminal, I get this error message:"Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"09:18
OerHeksGuest2467, i guess you havent seen this answer .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/781271/synaptics-synclient-no-longer-loads09:22
Guest2467thanks, OerHeks. I'll look that09:24
SuperLagIf I've opened up a browser from an SSH session where I've exported X, will that browser remain open on the local machine when I close the X session?09:27
Guest2467OerHeks: the answer on that link is incomplete, it doesn't offer any solution09:27
bekksSuperLag: Obviously the answer is no.09:28
pv2bSuperLag: there's no mechanism to "reattach" that browser to the GUI even if it did keep running09:28
bekksWhen closing the X session, you are killing the browser.09:28
t0rWh0r3if you want keep process running after disconnect ssh start it with "nohup <your_process> &"09:30
jk^[11:11] <ducasse> jk^: you can try the windows software in wine or a vm.09:30
jk^you mean a virtual machine installed on ubuntu and virtualize windows into this virtual machine installed on ubuntu?09:30
bekkst0rWh0r3: Which is nonsense in terms of an X session, since there is no way to reconnect to it.09:30
pv2bI wonder if there's an analogue to screen or tmux for X. The closest I can think of is Xvnc09:32
ducassejk^: either that, or wine.09:33
bekksfreenx, or vnc.09:33
bekkspv2b: ^09:33
pv2bI didn't know about freenx. Good to know :)09:34
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t0rWh0r3bekks, oh ok, sry09:43
sinhahii09:47
rypervenchejk^: Which encryption software is this?09:47
jk^rypervenche, i found several different09:53
rypervenchejk^: We're not talking about an ecryption software that you're already using in Windows?09:54
jk^no, i have to choose one of them or choose for another solution such as archives protected by password and wiht encrypted contents, but in this case i can't choose the best password protection and the best encryption altorhytm...09:56
jk^even winrar exist for ubuntu but on rarlab site i read this:  RAR 5.40 for Linux Command line only09:57
tomreynjk^: file-roller, squeeze10:17
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tomreynthose are graphical frontends for command line utilities.10:18
tomreynFendarisX: there is not just one 'ubuntu software server', there are many, many ubuntu APT repository mirrors10:19
tomreynit's very unlikely that all of them are down10:20
baxxdoes debian get newer software in it's repos than ubuntu?10:21
baxxi'm thinking no... but i'm asking.10:21
FendarisXtomreyn: it didnt work for no explanatory reason and it didnt work for two other people here as well10:21
FendarisXwhat is your explanation?10:21
FendarisXjust asking to further my understanding10:21
tomreynFendarisX: without taking a look at the output of apt-get update on your end i could only guess.10:22
twizstedbaxx, https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable10:23
tomreynyou could run this command in a !terminal and make its output available via a !pastebin : sudo apt-get update10:23
baxxtwizsted: there are 3 debians right...  is unstable the most commonly used?10:24
tomreynno, stable is10:24
baxxtwizsted: also idk how to answer my question with this link10:24
tomreynbut then this channel here is about ubuntu ;)10:25
baxxtomreyn: fair... i was wondering about the repos for Ubuntu vs debian10:25
FendarisXtomreyn, i changed nothing and it is working since a few minutes10:25
baxxwhether the software versions were generally much different (ie debian having newer)10:25
FendarisXi dont think the problem was on my side10:25
FendarisXespecially as two people had the same problem10:26
twizstedbaxx, i wouldn't know when it comes to debian, i've been using ubuntu since lucid and never looked back :-)10:26
FendarisXtomreyn, bash: !pastebin: event not found10:26
baxxok no worries twizsted , i thought that because they were close people might have a bit of exp with both in here10:26
tomreyn!pastebin | FendarisX10:27
ubottuFendarisX: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:27
FendarisXit says password .. pastebin command not found10:27
tomreynright, you don't write "pastebin" on your terminal10:28
tomreynread the above note from ubottu10:28
twizstedbaxx, i guarantee many in here would but as tomreyn said this is for ubuntu only support10:29
FendarisXah you wanted me to do something that copies the output of the command, such that i can paste it here?10:29
baxxtwizsted: yes obviously i get what this channel is about10:29
tomreynubuntu copies a lot of packages from debian. that'S a quick process so there is not much delay.10:30
tomreynFendarisX: yes, that's what i suggested10:30
FendarisX!pastebin | sudo apt-get update10:30
ubottusudo apt-get update: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:30
tomreynFendarisX: but if it's no longer an issue now,. there is probably no use in doing so.10:30
FendarisXi m mostly asking to gain at least a somewhat limited understanding of ubuntu to escape my nolinuxknowledgeprison ^^10:31
FendarisXis there some starter tutorial to follow to get a look around the commands?10:31
bazhang!manual10:31
ubottuThe Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/10:31
bazhangthat one FendarisX10:32
HiDeHoHi all10:32
tomreyn!terminal | FendarisX10:32
ubottuFendarisX: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal10:32
FendarisXnice thx :)10:32
bazhang!rute | FendarisX and this10:32
ubottuFendarisX and this: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/course/95-799/rute.pdf10:32
HiDeHowondering if its worth upgrading from mint 14.04 to the new lts version 16.06.10:32
bazhangHiDeHo, yes it is10:32
baxxHiDeHo: i was gonna upgrade yesterday actually10:32
baxxbut i thought i should probably clone my drive first10:33
MonkeyDustHiDeHo  i's mint 1810:33
FendarisXI also read that I am not supposed to do what I just did: I went here http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/367.44/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-367.44.run&lang=us&type=GeForce downloaded the driver, and double clicked it, not it seems to be installing. Is that not the way to do it?10:33
bazhangHiDeHo, and its ubuntu 16.0410:33
baxxdo many people have breakage upgrading from 14.04 -> 16.04 ?10:33
FendarisXthe text didnt have an explanation and didnt offer an alternative. just said not to do it that way10:33
baxxor is it usually pretty straight forward10:33
HiDeHobazhang: yea it is10:33
bazhangnot 16.06 HiDeHo `10:34
HiDeHoMonkeyDust: why are you mentioning other os in here this is ubuntu not Mint support10:34
bazhangnever is10:34
HiDeHobazhang: yes you are correct10:34
tomreyn!nvidia | FendarisX10:36
ubottuFendarisX: For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing »10:36
tomreynFendarisX: and yes, you should not just download software and drivers from anywhere on the internet. use your package manager instead.10:37
FendarisXtomreyn: oook... so that text says i have to edit some obscure xorg.conf file in order to be able to change my resolution to anything else than what it is? that sounds really strange10:41
FendarisXthe display window doesnt allow me to change it ot anything10:42
FendarisXit shows a big red BUILT IN DISPLAY which probably is supposed to mean something to me10:42
tomreynFendarisX: sorry, use this guide instead (which the previous one links to): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia10:43
FendarisXi think the driver is currently installing in that other window, so maybe i better wait for the result now10:44
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FendarisXah it got an error: There was a problem opening the file “/home/xyz/Downloads/NV…inux-x86_64-367.44(1).run”.10:44
FendarisXThe file you opened has some invalid characters. If you continue editing this file you could corrupt this document.10:44
tomreyndon't use this method of installing nvidia drivers10:45
FendarisXoki10:45
Guest2467Hi, my touchpad has stopped working. When I type synclient -l in terminal, I get this error message:"Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"10:46
FendarisXTom? the method to install the nvidia drivers you linked doesnt work in any of the 2 ways i tried10:50
FendarisXmaybe i have the drivers installed already and there is some other reason why i cant change the resolution?10:50
FendarisXUbuntu is not telling me that there are additional drivers in the main screen, and in the software and updates it shows nothing about gpu or nvidia10:50
FendarisXonly one unknown : unknown10:51
FendarisXah i can try the terminal way10:51
FendarisXUnable to locate package nvidia-367.4410:53
FendarisXE: Unable to locate package nvidia-36710:53
FendarisXsudo ubuntu-drivers devices --> driver   : intel-microcode - distro non-free, nothing about nvidia10:54
FendarisXgksu nvidia-settings10:57
FendarisX --> (gksu:5095): GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_value_free: assertion 'value != NULL' failed10:57
FendarisX$ nvidia-settings -q NvidiaDriverVersion10:58
FendarisX --> ERROR: Error resolving target specification '' (No targets match target10:58
FendarisX       specification), specified in query 'NvidiaDriverVersion'.10:58
Guest2467Hi, my touchpad has stopped working. When I type synclient -l in terminal, I get this error message:"Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"10:58
OerHeksGuest2467, so why you keep trying the same command?10:58
Guest2467I don't know any other commands, OerHeks10:59
OerHeksmaybe time to tell what laptop / hardware / ubuntu version?10:59
Guest2467is there a command for it, OerHeks?10:59
FendarisXfinally this seems to do something useful http://www.howtogeek.com/242045/how-to-get-the-latest-nvidia-amd-or-intel-graphics-drivers-on-ubuntu/11:01
OerHekscat /etc/issue and look at the laptop?11:01
guivercguest2467:  brand of laptop you should be able to read on it.. but "lspci" will show hardware recognized by kernel; and you'll hopefully be able to pick the touchpad from it.11:03
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Guest2467ok guiverc11:03
OerHekslaptop specs could give a hint with simular problems.11:03
munjaTIL /etc/issue contains the OS version11:04
Guest2467OerHeks: , guiverc. lspci output: https://gist.github.com/61225f22feb86fbf57da9258440d0a72, and laptop model is HCL11:05
munjaHCL is just the company, it would be helpful to be more specific11:06
MonkeyDustGuest2467  pastebin the output of    sudo dmidecode --type 111:09
Guest2467MonkeyDust: sudo: dmidecode: command not found11:10
guivercthanks @MonkeyDust... that's the command I was trying to recall.11:10
MonkeyDustGuest2467  install it first11:10
Guest2467ok, MonkeyDust11:11
Guest2467MonkeyDust: https://gist.github.com/ee19c5efac38c22e836cee16186b705911:11
guiverc@Guest2467 .. very short file; my own laptop (lenovo) gives 657 lines11:12
OerHeksSKU Number: Not Specified .. wait you have been here before, this is a non-official demo type hcl china laptop?11:12
Guest2467it's not a chinese laptop, OerHeks.11:13
Guest2467guiverc: I guess I don't have much hardware11:13
guivercguest2467:  including no cpu, no ram, not much of anything on that output.11:14
OerHeksor india, hongkong, you know what i try to say.11:14
guivercIndia.11:15
Guest2467so what do I do, to get the touchpad working again?11:17
blackbird1Hi, xenial live cd doesn't boot. Why ? (boot sequence: dvd, floppy, hard, usb)11:17
MonkeyDustblackbird1  what happens when you try11:17
blackbird1nothing MonkeyDust, Il loads windows form hard disk11:18
blackbird1it*11:18
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MonkeyDustblackbird1  so the cd/dvd is not found? sure it created correctly?11:20
MonkeyDustit's*11:20
blackbird1MonkeyDust, I burned the ISO file with barsero.11:22
MonkeyDustblackbird1  no, you need unetbootin or so11:22
guivercGuest2467:  have you tried  "Go to System Settings(search from dash) > Mouse & Touchpad11:22
guivercEnable Two Finger Scrolling and Natural Scrolling (or as you wish your configuration to be)"11:22
MonkeyDustblackbird1  or disk creator11:22
Guest2467yes, I have already tried that, guiverc11:23
Guest2467I"m using kde and when I go into system settings>input devices>touchpad, it says synaptic driver not found11:23
guivercsorry @guest2467.... have you provided "xinput" output11:23
blackbird1I'm going to try now MonkeyDust thanks11:24
tomreynblackbird1: brasero is fine if you wrote the contents of that iso image file to the cd-rom, not just the iso file as it is.11:24
Guest2467No, I haven't provided xinput, how do I do that? guiverc11:24
tomreynblackbird1: do you have a running / fully booted computer which you can put the cd-rom into and check the files present on it?11:24
blackbird1yes tomreyn11:25
guiverc(sorry we need to know the hardware... dmidecode decodes BIOS & provides clues; you're BIOS doesn't follow x86 standards as it's not providing answers... can occur with non-standard devices that aren't produced in big numbers, by small manufacturers)11:25
tomreynblackbird1: so i suggest you do this, and check whether the cd-rom contains multiple files and directories or just a single file with an .iso file extension11:26
guivercit's a command (xinput)11:26
Guest2467guiverc: so is there nothing I can do to get the touchpad functionality back?11:26
FendarisXI ve got a complete beginner question.... :D halp! I should have installed teamspeak 3 now.. but where is it? I cant find the sh file11:26
guivercdidn't say that.... point was knowing your hardware would make this quicker!11:26
OerHeksdays back i asked you about a FN key for mouse/touchpad enable disable, that was not the solution either11:27
guivercxinput on my lenovo says keyboard; point & detects thinkpad extra buttons.11:27
Guest2467guiverc: xinput's output:https://gist.github.com/4ffbabd2ab67eb642d0cbb552f981d1611:27
OerHeksand you say back, did it ever work?11:27
FendarisXi found it!11:27
Guest2467OerHeks: no it is not disabled by fn key11:27
FendarisXHow do I create a shortcut for the teamspeak 3 file_11:29
guivercguest2467:  thanks; it has not detected special features of your device..11:29
blackbird1tomreyn, now the dvd doesn't mount !11:29
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tomreynblackbird1: hmm i guess it's probably broken then? if you have a choice between booting from dvd or usb attached storage media, choose the latter11:31
blackbird1tomreyn, I think the problem is from ubuntu, because I insert 3 DVD's, all not mounted11:32
guivercre: guest2467... would running LSHW (list hardware) be likely to provide useful info about the hardware....  general question; its unlikely not installed on your machine Guest2467; hence general question to everyone first... if lshw is already installed; please run.11:32
blackbird1I'll try tou mount manually11:33
FendarisXtomreyn: As you are back, just for info. none of the methods on the linked page to install the drivers worked. Found a different one somewhere else finally :)11:33
Guest2467yes lshw gives a long list of output, guiverc11:33
guiverccan i see link please (assuming you've already provided) Guest2467.11:34
tomreynFendarisX: if the "additional drivers" application did not list your nvidia hardware then it is probably not supported.11:34
FendarisXit is and i installed it in a differnt way tomreyn11:35
FendarisXi mean it is supported by nvidia and works which is good11:35
Guest2467https://gist.github.com/65c948e8307566d7d73d73c97d23eeae, guiverc11:35
tomreynFendarisX: okay, glad you found a solution which works for you.11:35
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guivercthanks @Guest246711:35
FendarisXhttp://www.howtogeek.com/242045/how-to-get-the-latest-nvidia-amd-or-intel-graphics-drivers-on-ubuntu/ this way worked11:35
FendarisXsudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install nvidia-36711:36
FendarisXand after i did that, now the drivers are shown in the additional drivers11:36
FendarisXand i switched it up to 37011:36
tomreynFendarisX: PPAs are not supported11:36
FendarisXwhat does that mean_11:36
FendarisXi mean if a gtx1080 is "not supported" what is the support worth? that s a mainstream gpu11:37
tomreynFendarisX: that you're on your own when you use them, at least when it comes to this channel.11:38
guivercguest2467:  device looks like a x86_64 (motion computing) j3400 tablet behind me..  have turned it on to compare & see if it provides any clues...11:38
FendarisXtomreyn: if the alternative is to not have a gpu, then you are on your own from the start ;)11:39
Guest2467ok, guiverc11:39
FendarisXare desktop shortcuts supported by chance? i tried some different approaches, but they werent compatible with 16.04 as far as i understood it. CreateLauncher etc11:39
FendarisXI installed teamspeak 3 and am trying to figure out how to run it11:40
bekksFendarisX: The GTX1080 is one of the latest highend GPU, not a "mainstream" one - and there arent drivers in the official ubuntu repos which support it. Thats why you choose to use a PPA, but that leaves you on your own when it comes to issues after kernel updates affecting the driver, etc.11:40
FendarisXno alternative, bekks.11:41
FendarisXnot gonna throw the gpu into the trash :D and i want to get away from windows11:41
bekksFendarisX: No one said you need to throw away your hardware. I was just making clear what you can expect in here, when it comes to problems with your (yet) unsupported hardware.11:43
FendarisXdo i have to expect ubuntu to die any moment from automatically installed kernel updates or anything like that?11:44
bekksFendarisX: Did anyone say something like that?11:44
FendarisXyou said issues after kernel updates.11:44
bekksFendarisX: When switching kernels, your driver needs to be built for the new kernel as well - and that might impose issues.11:45
guivercFendarisX:  you said you followed instructions from howtogeek; go to the page & look for others who also followed instructions; maybe they've found answers (ie. support yourselves until nvidia get to providing support via existing modules)11:45
FendarisXbut that only happens if i manually install a new version of ubuntu i guess11:45
blinkblinkHi. Please I am using Ubuntu Mate, when I do Ctrl+Alt+F1 and try to login from there it is always Login Incorrect11:45
bekksFendarisX: No. That happens upon every kernel update.11:45
FendarisXEverythin is working with regards to the gpu guiverc. People are just warning me about support issues with PPA11:45
bekksFendarisX: Because you already installed the driver manually, from a PPA.11:46
guivercok - my mistake sorry @FendarisX11:46
blinkblinkI went to Recovery Mode > Root Shell and tried to mount the missing shell "mount -o remount,rw /" and it allows me to set the password, however when I reboot it is still not working11:46
FendarisXMy current goals are to figure out how to access the home folder, use sh to run teamspeak, and figure out why linux refuses to access my windows NTFS partitions.. ubuntu says windows is hybernating... probably need to boot windows and disable hybernate somewhere in the options11:46
bekksFendarisX: Correct, people are warning you about support issues with a PPA. But it is still up to you wether to use it or not.11:46
FendarisXbekks i dont understand you... you say it s up to me? what do you mean? it s the only way to use the gpu that worked11:47
bekksFendarisX: you need to disable hibernation in windows and you need to disable fastboot in windows, then restart windows, and shut it down cleanly.11:47
FendarisXif the alternative is to not have a working system, then it s up to me to say dont use ubuntu, not dont use ppa11:47
bekksFendarisX: It is your computer - it is your choice. Pretty easy.11:47
ouroumovblinkblink, sounds like a keyboard layout issue11:47
FendarisXCan i change partition settings while ubuntu is running?11:47
FendarisXwithout rebooting?11:47
bekksFendarisX: No.11:48
FendarisXaw... :D11:48
satysinhi11:49
blinkblinkouroumov: i have tried this solution but nothing worked http://askubuntu.com/questions/413404/ctrlaltf1-incorrect-login11:49
OerHeksntfs .. warning hybernating .. that shows also a warning that the ntfs might be dirty, use ntfsfix /dev/sdXY11:49
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satysini am on 16.04.1 and want to adjust mouse sensitivity but the option in settings does nothing11:49
FendarisXyeah.. teamspeak started. At least as nothing is working most of the time, every step feels like an achivement xD11:49
bekksOerHeks: it means that windows wasnt shut down but hibernated only.11:49
OerHeksbekks, that could be, but the complete warning gives the not-clean message too..11:50
ouroumovblinkblink, try typing your password at the "login" prompt, so you can check keys you press actually give you the correct characters.11:50
bekksOerHeks: Because using hibernation the filesystem intentionally is considered being non-clean, for avoiding loss of data.11:51
ouroumovblinkblink: also see https://askubuntu.com/questions/155424/changing-tty-keyboard-layout-on-a-server11:51
bekksOerHeks: Thats why you need to start windows, disable hibernation, disable fastboot, restart windows, shutdown windows.11:51
OerHeksbekks, ah you are correct11:52
Poirottihello. why does amixer sget Master return: "amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Master',0"? same with other amixer commands. does pulseaudio overrun amixer somehow?11:53
guiverc@Guest2467: comparing output with my j3400. your machine provides far less output; does not follow x86 BIOS standards very well; but still looking.11:53
blinkblink_ouroumov: still the same11:54
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Guest2467thanks, guiverc11:54
mbwei am looking for someone who speaks turkisch11:55
MonkeyDust!tr11:55
ubottuTurk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.11:55
guiverc@Guest2467:  has someone asked you to list kernel modules (ie. drivers) for your machine; ie. lsmod , and you provided output via link?11:57
FendarisX...umm... I installed ubuntu now. things are working... is it possible to run my full ubuntu installation in a virtual mashine in windows?11:57
bekksFendarisX: With a lot of pain, yes.11:58
FendarisXI know I can run ubuntu in a windows virtual machine.. but can I run this full installation here in windows?11:58
FendarisXso you say it s a somewhat stupid idea and if i want a virtual machine instead, i should follow the virtual machine ubuntu installation guides? ^^11:58
bekksFendarisX: And wehen running it as a vm, you cant use your "mainstream GPU" you just installed drivers for.11:58
bekksFendarisX: Correct.11:58
Guest2467guiverc: I don't think so, but I'm not sure, I've been pasting a lot of output on gist-pasteee, so ii'm not sure11:58
FendarisXoh does that ppa workaround not work in a virtual machine ubuntu?11:58
guivercGuest2467:  reason for question is to compare with my own..  can you run & save it; past me a link please.  (I know you've pasted at least four I've looked at)11:59
mbwethanks MonkeyDust11:59
bekksFendarisX: Correct. Because in a VM. you see virtualized hardware, not your physical hardware. Thats why it is called Virtualization and not Physicalization.12:00
guivercps: it probably needs sudo lsmod12:00
tomreynFendarisX: accelerated graphics in a VM are difficult to get to work properly in general.12:01
bekksFendarisX: Please keep it in this channel not in a unasked and unwanted query.12:01
Guest2467guiverc: https://gist.github.com/02e4b37617bd2df9a01f137499c152fe12:01
guivercthank you @Guest246712:01
FendarisXwasnt a question, just background information if you are curious. no need to read12:02
bekksFendarisX: So no need to share them with me. :)12:02
FendarisXtomreyn: I believe I had that problem with docker, too12:02
FendarisXnoooooooooo... there is no cudatoolkit version for 16.04 yet only 15.04?12:04
FendarisXhoping that works anyway12:05
bekksPPA ...12:05
bekks... no official support, etc.12:05
FendarisXHmmm.. I am trying to understand that. I am looking at a webpage, which does not offer a download for 16.04. But I can go read a guide on PPA to figure out if it is available via that?12:06
bekksFendarisX: You can browse that PPA, to see its contents.12:06
FendarisXso that means in ubuntu, people can create personal package archives, in which they can put stuff that they got to work... then I can link it from my ubuntu and access the files? So I would have to search for a ppa containing a cudatoolkit for 16.04 for example?12:07
ouroumovblinkblink_, can you login through ssh?12:07
bekksFendarisX: You are already using a PPA - you can browse that particular PPA as well.12:08
bekks!ppa | FendarisX12:08
ubottuFendarisX: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge12:08
FendarisXI am sorry, I am really uneducated with regards to linux. xD Gonna try to find a way to find out which ppa I have linked12:09
FendarisX!addppa12:09
ubottuA !ppa can be added using a single command «  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details12:09
blinkblink_ouroumov: i have not tried yet12:09
bekksFendarisX: It is named in the link you followed for installing the driver for your GPU.12:09
FendarisXah true, thanks12:09
FendarisXppa:graphics-drivers/ppa12:09
tomreyncorrect12:12
Guest2467guiverc: I need to go, thanks for your help12:12
bekksFendarisX: And these are the contents: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa12:12
guivercsorry couldn't provide answers... my own contains intel chipsets; yours has nvidia.12:12
FendarisXinteresting. Installed synaptic and now I think I have libcud1-370 installed. cool12:14
guiverc@guest2467:  i'm sort of going thru your chipsets & crossing them off as related to other hardware... trying to find correct one isn't 'quick' as just rt73, mcp79 & short names...12:14
FendarisXAh, thx Bekks. Figured that out on my own12:15
FendarisXcurrently trying to figure out if there is a relation between nvidia cuda 7.5 and libcudl-37012:16
FendarisXgoogle is a bit inconclusive12:16
FendarisXdpkg -l | grep ii | grep -i cuda this doesnt seem to list the right things, so it s probablz not cuda 7.512:17
FendarisXwhich would mean that cuda is not in the ppa, if I understand it correctlz12:17
FendarisXy12:17
FendarisXcould just try to install the 15.04 version on 16.04 and see what error message comes up12:17
FendarisXnvm :) found posts describing it :) gonna try12:18
blinkblink_ouroumov: yes i can12:20
ouroumovblinkblink_, have you tried to run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (from the tty)?12:22
guiverc@Guest2467:  realize you're probably gone; but your name still shows; so maybe you've got this recorded to view later... an idea; boot a non-ubuntu live distro; or older ubuntu (where touchpad worked) & list-modules (lsmod)....   compare this your current "lsmod" output, and the missing entry will be your answer anyway.  i suspect you've been told this anyway; but I don't see the chipset tin your provided listings that con12:23
guiverctain the rosetta-stone (key) to what's missing.... (i've had too little experience with nvidia motherboards too)12:23
tomreynFendarisX: nvidia-cuda-toolkit version 7.5.18-0ubuntu1 is available from the 'multiverse' APT component of the Ubuntu 16.04 APT repository12:25
FendarisXfound that 10 seconds ago12:26
FendarisX"Seems CUDA 7.5.18 it is available in the Xenial multiverse repositories now: `apt-get install nvidia-cuda-toolkit"12:26
FendarisXnow i tried putting that into my terminal12:26
FendarisXE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)12:26
FendarisXE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?12:26
FendarisXgonna see if i have to install that repository somehow12:27
FendarisXthis is so much more exciting than a windows installation12:28
FendarisXon the other hand I m at it since 11 hours or so xD12:28
blinkblink_ouroumov: i can login now! not sure how it works but it does. thanks anyway12:28
FendarisXnice to hear blinkblink12:28
tomreynFendarisX: you probably need to activate the multiverse component to be able to install this software form this repository, AKA community contributed / unmaintained packages12:29
i5um41ruhttps://i.imgsafe.org/3fc20460a4.png please help, nothing appeared after pressing the super key..12:29
tomreyn!multiverse | FendarisX12:29
ubottuFendarisX: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.12:29
FendarisX"That's true. With apt-get installation, cuda files locate in `/usr/bin`, `/usr/lib`, and I can only specify CUDA_PATH as `/usr` and this cause problems when compiling CUDA samples from the run file." *cough, let s see12:30
FendarisXthx tomreyn :)12:30
BluesKajhiyas all12:31
tomreynFendarisX: 11 hours are a minimal investment to learning the basic concepts of an operating system you have not worked with much before, if at all. think about how long it took you on your previous OS to actually get to understand how things work.12:31
munjaHi BluesKaj12:31
BluesKajhi munja12:32
FendarisXwould also probably have been 30 minutes with a less specific pc and goal12:32
FendarisXthis ****** enthusiast system xD12:32
FendarisXthe windows installation wasnt especially smooth before either with this pc. Had to surrender and go up to windows 10.12:33
FendarisXand i still havent fixed the ram overclocking12:33
pratyushkaun hai bhai??12:34
root_____Hi12:34
pratyushhii12:34
tomreyn!in | pratyush12:34
ubottupratyush: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India12:34
i5um41ruHi, no application in dash menu https://i.imgsafe.org/3fc20460a4.png anyone can help?12:34
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KuroLelouchHow are u12:34
pratyushf912:35
tomreyn!rootirc | KuroLelouch12:35
ubottuKuroLelouch: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.12:35
OerHeks!rootirc12:35
guivercnight all ... been fun.12:35
* tomreyn first ;)12:35
FendarisXah ok, the multiverse seems to be enabled by standard, at least it is checked and i dont think i did it12:35
FendarisXso that s not the problem12:35
FendarisXbut nice to know where and what it is :)12:35
hishomatim about to do an apt-upgrade, can i backup the deb files first for the packages im about to upgrade? where are they kept?12:36
tomreynFendarisX: then you should already be able to install the package using your preferred package manager12:36
OerHekshishomat, /var/cache/apt/archives12:37
FendarisXoh sudo apt-get update doesnt work either, same error12:37
FendarisXE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)12:37
FendarisXE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:37
OerHeksis another process using it? ( hint: synaptic)12:38
FendarisXah not exactly the same error, before was open 13: permission denied12:38
tomreyn...when you were not running it through sudo12:38
FendarisX*closes synaptic. works12:39
OerHeksi think we give answers too easy, FendarisX12:39
FendarisXwell, to the real problem we have not even an idea yet xD12:39
FendarisXbut it is also not supported, so i am trying every idea i can find on boards12:40
FendarisXthe update didnt lead to any improvement with regards to that12:40
bekksImprovement on what exactly?12:41
FendarisXjust figured out what you meant tomrezn. seems to work, thx12:41
FendarisXbekks: It was just my lack of understand that I have to put sudo in front of apt-get otherwise I apparently get that lock-error message12:42
FendarisX`apt-get install nvidia-cuda-toolkit` isntead of sumo apt-get install nvidia-cuda-toolkit12:43
FendarisXit s installing now12:43
BluesKajsumo? or is that a typo?12:45
FendarisXwas a typo. There is a nice open source traffic simulator called sumo though12:45
kakrashello guys, i'm buy a raspberry12:46
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FendarisXQuestion: When I do this export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=`pwd`:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH12:56
FendarisX, there is no error message.... does that mean it worked? How do I find out what LD Library path is?12:56
FendarisXah nvm12:57
FendarisXxD12:57
bipulWe can't create more then one VG(Volume Group) inside same PV(Physical Volume) Right?12:58
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Obadiah1why do videos keep repeating in midori13:10
Obadiah1on youtube13:10
FendarisXhmmm.... how do I get to /usr/local with the "files" program?13:12
FendarisXi got there with the terminal, but I want to paste two files from the clipboard in a folder13:13
FendarisXaha... you have to do sudo nautilus... why didnt i guess that right away13:16
sony_hello, I would like to change the password for a shorter using the GUI users . With current gnome 16.04 . command line it works but not with the GUI , though I change the etc / pam.d/common-password13:17
wbxhi13:23
zhanghe百度13:23
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triticiaooooooooooooooooo13:45
coasty2hello, I have a question13:49
coasty2how do I modify the icons in the top right (of the system bar) specifically13:50
coasty2?13:50
coasty2like, the volume icon, wifi status icon, battery icon, notification icon and the shutdown icon13:50
ubuntu870WHAT SHOULD i UPGRADE TO AFTER i GET FAMILULAR WITH UBUNTU 14.0413:52
coasty2ubuntu870, you should upgrade to lowercase13:53
ubuntu870LOL13:53
ubuntu870but seriusly though13:53
ubuntu870coasty13:54
coasty2ubuntu870, I don't know man, why do you need to change the OS at all?13:55
squigso the installer for 12.04 server appears to be broken13:55
ubuntu870coasty, to broaden my knowledge13:56
nedstarkthere is no fix coming either13:56
ubuntu870all, does any one know about the toughbook CF-2913:57
ubuntu870as far as what works on it and what does not work on it13:57
ubuntu870it needs a new OS13:58
nedstark12.04 maintenance updates end early 201713:58
PCatineanHi guys, I have a package called autopostgresqlbackup that adds backups/dumps to a folder on the server. And I want to also sync that folder with a one on a backup server via ftp13:59
PCatineanHow can I transfer them, daily to the backup server. With a cron I assume?13:59
ubuntu870ned stark what OS are you refferring to13:59
nedstarkubuntu 12.0414:00
ubuntu870nedstark so is that what should work on the toughbook CF2914:01
ubuntu870and what about puppy14:01
nedstarkubuntu870, you should be able to run lubuntu14:02
nedstarklubuntu 16.0414:02
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ubuntu870ned stark but it was built for windows xp, isnt the lubuntu 16.04 alittle new for it.14:04
nedstarkubuntu870, it should be fine14:05
nedstarkthe lxde desktop is lightweight14:05
redhotHi there! How easy its to create a deb package for ubuntu 14.04?14:06
redhotAny guides are welcome14:06
ubuntu870nedstark, it only has like 512 ram14:07
ubuntu870ned stark, please visit ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/computer/toughbook29/toughbook-29_specsheet.pdf for more details. mine is non touch screen14:08
redhotubuntu870: only?!14:09
redhot"640K ought to be enough for anybody"14:09
SchrodingersScat!checkinstall14:09
ubottucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!14:09
SchrodingersScatredhot: ^14:09
redhotThank you, Mr. SchrodingersScat>14:10
redhotThank you, Mr. SchrodingersScat14:10
ubuntu870red hot , yes14:10
nedstarkubuntu870, you can get by with 512mb for running desktop apps and low intensity browsing, but you need 1gb to run firefox comfortably on sites with lots of multimedia or flash14:10
SchrodingersScatredhot: yep, good luck14:10
redhotThanks much14:11
nedstarklubuntu works with pentium 4's so a dual core is fine14:11
RickyB98can someone suggest a util to monitor bandwidth usage per port?14:11
redhotiftop ?14:11
ubuntu870red hot. please visit ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/computer/toughbook29/toughbook-29_specsheet.pdf14:11
RickyB98yeah i'm using that already14:11
RickyB98but how do you see it per port?14:11
SchrodingersScatafaik you run one instance of iftop per port, but I should check the manual on that14:12
nedstarklubuntu runs fine on old pc's, but browsers are resource hogs when you go to the typical site with lots of scripting and media14:12
nedstarkchrome and chromium typically crash on old pc's14:12
SchrodingersScatunclear14:12
RickyB98SchrodingersScat: 1. nice nick, love that experiment; 2. really? that would not solve my problem, coz i'm trying to get which traffic is being to heavy14:12
ubuntu870ned stark14:13
ubuntu870nedstark, what can I do on it then14:13
nedstarkubuntu870, run any of the 40,000 apps in the repos, browse with javascript and flash disabled14:14
redhotlol ubuntu870, thanks, I don't want to downgrade)14:14
nedstarkflash may actually run in low resolution14:14
ubuntu870can I atleast use a weak browser that uses basic html14:15
ubuntu870nedstark14:15
SchrodingersScatRickyB98: hmm, and passing multiple -i flags seems to only choose the last one, so probably not the tool you want.14:15
nedstarkubuntu870, you can do that or use firefox with the extras disabled14:15
ubuntu870nedstark. I use google drive alot and will it affect the computer14:16
untitled_test14:16
SchrodingersScat!info sysstat14:16
ubottusysstat (source: sysstat): system performance tools for Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 11.2.0-1ubuntu0.1 (xenial), package size 249 kB, installed size 1012 kB14:16
nedstarkubuntu870, it may, you could give it a shot and see how it works.14:17
nedstarkgoogle tends to write everything to be a resource hog14:17
nedstarklots of new college grads in a hurry trying to make it work perfect and be totally secure doesn't lend to efficient code writing14:17
ubuntu870nedstark, and would it work for data collection and other offline applications14:18
ubuntu870like the rasberry Pi (nedstark14:19
nedstarkubuntu870, thats what i normally use old pc's for, the desktop apps.  if your hd is new, its ideal for being a pc not usually on the web that you maintain your home finance info and other personal info you don't ever want hacked14:19
nedstarkif your hd is old, then back up14:19
SchrodingersScatback it up no matter what14:19
SchrodingersScatalways and forever, like it's on fire14:19
nedstarkespecially on notebooks, and ssd's14:20
nedstarki've had desktop hd's go 20 years without fail because they aren't being jerked around like a laptop would14:20
ubuntu870back up as in external hard drive14:20
nedstarkcompanies are all buying notebooks, but they only last 3-4 years14:21
nedstarkthen a hd or motherboard fails or both14:21
SchrodingersScatubuntu870: I like the idea of 3 copies, one of those being remote if at all possible, just in case there's a major disaster.14:21
ubuntu870 And the CF29 is ultra rugged14:22
nedstarkmost office work can be done with an old desktop pc and should only need a memory upgrade after 3-4 years14:22
ubuntu870as in th ehard drive is incased in foam14:22
nedstarktoughbooks are good, but if its been used a lot, i'd watch that hd14:23
ubuntu870well the reson why it needs a new Os is because the files came up corrupt14:26
ubuntu870so is that meaning that I need a new HD14:27
SchrodingersScat!memtest14:27
SchrodingersScat!testing | ubuntu87014:27
ubottuubuntu870: To test your hardware, you can use the packages memtest86+ (for memory, can be started from the !GRUB boot menu), smartmontools (for hard drives), cpuburn (which MIGHT damage your processor if cooling is not adequate!). Additionally, lm-sensors can be useful to monitor temperatures and fan speeds - See also !benchmark14:27
ubuntu870was the last robotto for me14:28
SchrodingersScatyes14:28
gargsmsRunning Ubuntu Server 14 on AWS EC2 instance. I am trying to run a process on port 3000, but it says the port is already in use. Doing `netstat -tupln` shows the port in use but there is no PID associated with it14:28
SchrodingersScatubottu: domo orogoto14:28
gargsmsHow do I kill the rogue process?14:29
AnthaasHi, I have a couple environment variables saved in /etc/environment, but how do I ensure that they always automatically loaded?14:33
AnthaasFor example, if I restart my computer...14:33
AnthaasI don't really want to have to use the source command manually every time...14:34
gargsmsAnthaas, you can add them to your bashrc file14:37
NirvanaJADSbuenas14:38
NirvanaJADSbuenos días14:40
coasty2yeah hi14:40
coasty2it's nice that so many distros are forks of other distros14:40
tomreynAnthaas: the environment variables you place in /etc/environment are applied whenever a user logs in. you do not need to source them manually.14:40
coasty2because I can use this channel to ask questions about my elementary OS install14:41
coasty2since it's based on ubuntu14:41
SchrodingersScat!elementary | coasty2 I understand you're trolling though, normally people space it out a little more.14:41
ubottucoasty2 I understand you're trolling though, normally people space it out a little more.: Elementary OS is an Ubuntu derivative which is supported in their IRC channel #elementary on irc.freenode.net - http://elementaryos.org/ for more information on this distribution.14:41
coasty2SchrodingersScat, what?14:41
coasty2SchrodingersScat, I wasn't trolling, I honestly thought it wouldn't be a problem.14:42
coasty2and I was unable to find an irc channel by myself. Thanks for linking it tho14:42
SchrodingersScatcoasty2: heh, ok, well no, it's not an official !flavor so there's likely elementary specific things that they should be asked about.14:42
NirvanaJADScual es la mejor terminal que debo usar14:43
tomreyn!es | NirvanaJADS14:43
ubottuNirvanaJADS: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.14:43
coasty2SchrodingersScat, yeah, but so far I've been able to solve all my problems using stackoverflow questions asked about ubuntu or the ubuntu forums even14:44
coasty2I'll use the elementary channel tho14:44
dreamscapehi guys is there a way to completely remove the GUI and basically convert a desktop ubuntu to ubuntu server? my machine (single core atom, 2gb ram) is struggling a bit in the GUI and i don't really need it14:50
alfredo55salve14:50
k1ldreamscape: you can boot to cli only if you want. what ubuntu version is it?14:51
dreamscape16.0414:51
dreamscapei just want to basically save as much resources as possible and remove all the bulk as it's only a thin client and is struggling abit haha14:52
k1ldreamscape: sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target14:52
dreamscapedone14:53
carogaAnyone here got AMD Graphics driver installed on their 16.04 ?14:53
k1ldreamscape: that will not start the desktop but only boot to the comandline. its basically like a server, the installed desktop is not used then untill you start the lightdm (the login screen) manually14:53
dreamscapeok great thank you14:53
k1lcaroga: there is no fglrx anymore from amd.14:53
carogak1l: that's why Im looking around for what to do now14:54
dreamscapeis there anything else ican remove to save ram etc? I wouldn't mind removing the GUI completely if that is possible?14:54
carogaCurrently running the nouvaeu driver (if Im correct on its name) but I think I might have some driver related issues14:54
k1lcaroga: nouveau is the nvidia open source driver. for amd you are running radeon now. and depending on your card (if its a new one) you can have the official amd addon (amd_gpu).14:55
carogaOke will look if my card is supported. Think it probably be not but just for sure.14:56
carogaIn case it's not, any alternatives k1l?14:56
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k1ldreamscape: first: installed but not loaded desktop doesnt use any hardware excpet some space on the hdd. secondly: ram is to be used. not used ram is waisted money :)  only issue is when the system starts using swap, since that is slow then.14:56
k1lcaroga: no alternatives besides buying another/newer card :/14:57
k1lamd stopped making fglrx and makes the amd_gpu open source driver now, which is included in the kernel.14:57
carogayeah, that would have to wait xD14:57
carogak1l: how would i know if its already using that amd_gpu driver?14:59
dreamscapek1l I would like to lower the RAM as much as possible as if possible i would like to use a single stick of RAM (1GB) to save power15:00
carogadreamon: if you are trying to save power than saving memory isn't your first concern.15:01
carogaalso, if you have 1 or 2 slots of memory, statiscally wouldnt make a difference15:01
k1lcaroga: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'15:01
carogak1l: it states radeon15:01
k1ldreamscape: that doesnt save any power in a measurable way at all.15:01
dreamscapei know :) im just trying everything so far... its the lowest power atom (4w) and i want to shave more off if i can :D15:01
dreamscapeok thanks :)15:02
nicomachusdreamscape: why cut down the power usage so much?15:02
dreamscapeit is on 24/7 365 and electric isn't cheap here15:02
k1ldreamscape: if you want to save power better buy a good power supply. most power suppliey consume 100W power while the system only needs 20W in idle.15:02
carogadreamscape: remove the monitor, that saves some power. Only ssh into the device15:02
carogadisable wifi, bluetooth, if onboard15:02
k1ljust look at the 90+ platinum or a pico psu15:03
dreamscapeyeah it has no monitor :) doesn't even have a keyboard its all SSH15:03
carogagot drives?15:03
dreamscapeit has a 87% efficient PSU15:03
dreamscapeyea, x1 2.5 inch hdd 2TB15:03
nicomachusdreamscape: I agree with k1l. A better rated PSU will save more electricity than anything else. my HTPC is on 24/7/365 and barely uses 20W most of the time.15:03
caroganeeds to be on all the time ?15:03
Guy1524hey guys, I have 14.04 installed on a family computer w/ an AMD Mobility Radeon HD 5730 / 6570M (from lspci).  It uses fglrx and my brother uses it to play a steam game that barely maintains above a 60 fps (a shooter)  if I install 16.04, since there is no way to get fglrx, what framerates can I expect?15:03
Guy1524the game is PVK2 if you care15:03
nicomachusGuy1524: use the open source radeon driver. It'll match fglrx or better.15:04
k1ldreamscape: look at the <100W specs of those psus. that is where the magic happens. but this gets more a topic for ##hardware15:04
nicomachusalso, ##gamingonlinux might have some good ideas on that.15:04
Guy1524really?!, does it work w/ steam?15:04
nicomachusGuy1524: works great here.15:04
Obadiah1is there a channel for hexchat help15:04
Guy1524also, this is not a new AMD card, its a old 6570M15:04
nicomachusI can get 60fps playing TF2 with a Radeon HD 6450 and a Core2Duo 2.7ghz15:05
Guy1524doesn't the new driver only work w/ gcn cards15:05
Guy1524oh wow15:05
Guy1524well, I guess its worth a try15:05
Guy1524did you have to build it from source or is a good version packaged w/ 16.0415:05
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k1lcaroga: then look if your amd video card is new enough to be supported by amd_gpu (which seems like it doesnt because ubuntu would have loaded amd_gpu if it was supported). else you dont have any alternatives15:05
nicomachusGuy1524: IIRC, Valve has actually put a ton of work into the radeon driver for the specific purpose of improving linux gaming in steam.15:05
Guy1524oh ok15:06
alfredo55rhino15:06
nicomachusGuy1524: it's already there. Just got to System Settings --> Software & Updates --> Additional drivers and select the radeon one.15:06
carogak1l: yeah I figured that much, but cant buy a new card as im already saving for a new pc. But good to know that it's already running the best driver possible15:06
carogathank you for your assistance buddy15:06
Guy1524ok, I still have 14.04 installed15:07
Guy1524is the driver better in 16.04?15:07
nicomachusGuy1524: it works in 14.04 too. same driver as far as I know.15:07
Guy1524or can I test it w/ 14.0415:07
Guy1524ok, thx15:07
k1lcaroga: yes. the transition right now is not the best time for endusers. but in some time the users will benefit more of that change than the fglrx state before15:07
carogaYeah I think it will. As you also see a transition in the market for linux compatible games and such15:08
PCatineanCan anyone tell me how I can regularly save backups via ftp to a backup server?15:08
bekksPCatinean: create acron job for creating the backup, and then transfer it to your backup server.15:09
carogaPCatinean: there is a backup application installed by default, if you follow it's setup you can choose to backup ur device to FTP or something15:09
PCatineancaroga, it's autopostgresqlbackup15:09
PCatineanBut I did not find in the documentation ftp saving15:09
bekksPCatinean: It saves the backup locally, you need to tranfer it yourself.15:09
carogaPCatinean: have your tried using Déjà Dup ?15:10
carogaIt has FTP as storage type15:10
nicomachuscaroga: THAT's the one I was trying to think of the other day!15:10
bekkscaroga: that doesnt create a consistent postgres backup.15:11
nicomachusthanks friend.15:11
caroganicomachus: no problem.15:11
carogayou may by me a beer if you like.15:11
carogabuy*15:11
nicomachus!cookie | caroga how about a cookie15:11
ubottucaroga how about a cookie: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!15:11
carogawoooot my first cookie in this channel!15:11
PCatineancaroga, for ubuntu server?15:11
PCatineanbekks, yes exactly15:12
PCatineanI just upload forcefully the content of the backup dir to the ftp server to a certain location?15:12
PCatineanand overwrite?15:12
carogaPCatinean: well, you could ofcourse just schedule it to backup that backupped file to the ftp, but otherwise, using a cronjob to transfer your backup to a ftp server would do the trick as well15:12
bekksPCatinean: I'd create a new directory, with a timestamp in its name, keep the last three backups, and delete the older ones.15:12
PCatineanbekks, autopostgresql already does that, rotating backups, daily, weekly, monthly15:13
carogaPCatinean: than you just want to transfer these files ?15:13
PCatineanBut in theory I think it actually deletes old ones, versus me just uploading the content to it would mean it would get increasingly larger15:13
bekksPCatinean: Yeah, so just transfer your backup.15:13
PCatineanbekks, but if I don't delete the old ones from the backup server manully it won't work15:13
PCatineanI mean, it will just get larger and larger15:13
PCatineanmaybe do a sync between the folders15:14
bekksPCatinean: Yeah.15:14
gargsmsHow do I run a script on system startup?15:14
PCatineanSomehow a command that says "make this folder == to this one"15:14
bekks"ln" :)15:14
PCatineangargsms, it depends on your version since it differs15:14
gargsmsUbuntu Server 14.0415:14
gargsmsI added a crontab entry @reboot /path/to/script but it didn't work15:15
veephi all15:15
PCatineanI think that uses upstart i.e adding scripts in /etc/init15:15
nicomachus14.04 uses upstart, yea15:15
PCatineanand there you execute your script from a file such as that15:15
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ZoFIs ubuntu truly the fedora of the current GNU?15:16
nicomachuseverything after 14.04 is systemd now.15:16
ZoFIs Ubuntu really ubuntu if it's really GNU/Linux?15:16
ZoFCan we call a horse a horse? Ubuntu is RHEL. Period.15:16
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veepI'm trying to get the 3-4 finger gestures to work with Ubuntu 16.04.  I'm on a 2012 Macbook Pro.  Installed touch-egg but I've read that the "3,4 finger gestures are reserved".15:17
gargsmsWhat if I add an /etc/init.d entry for the script?15:17
PCatineangargsms, yup that also works15:18
gargsmsGreat15:18
PCatineanIf i'm not mistaken this way you will not be able to do sudo service script command15:18
PCatineanand will have to do /etc/init.d/script command15:18
PCatineanbut I could be wrong15:18
nicomachusveep: have you looked through this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch15:19
gargsmsPCatinean, That I don't really need. I just want the script to be executed on startup. It's in a headless environment. So whenever a new server launches, I want that to run15:21
PCatineansure, sounds good15:21
veepnicomachus: I haven't not no.  Looking now.  It's accepting a few of the 3/4 gestures.  Thanks.        Is there a way to edit the ones that are working?15:22
nicomachusveep: yes, it's not real easy. involves a lot of xinput config15:23
nicomachusveep: doing some reading, looks like you may have to disable those default multitouch options to get touchegg to work15:24
gargsmsIt didn't work. I added a new file in /etc/init.d named asdf and then chmod +x it. Rebooted, but the script didn't run15:24
nicomachusveep: see here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/468809/multitouch-gesture-in-ubuntu-14-0415:24
veepNico: the touch-egg GUI...  All of those 3-4 gestures won't work because the system is over-riding them for its own commands?  i.e. "reserved".     ...making the touch-egg GUI essentially useless for 3/4 finger gestures?15:25
nicomachuspossible15:25
veepnico: ok i'll check it out.  Thanks.15:26
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provolaHi!15:29
AnthaasHI provola !!!!15:29
provolaHow are you?15:29
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AnthaasSorry, typo. I meant Hello.15:29
provolaHow I can build Ubuntu Touch for Moto G 2014?15:30
nicomachus!touch | provola15:30
ubottuprovola: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch15:30
ejatanyone having broken icon in 16.10 : http://picpaste.com/broken-icon-right-top-panel-yvqAsbg3.png15:30
nicomachusejat: you'll have to ask in #ubuntu+1 about that15:31
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gargsmsPCatinean_, there is some issue with my system. I have process running on port 3000. I kill it and then restart, but somehow the port is not freed15:35
gargsmsIt is an AWS EC2 instance, if that helps15:35
PCatinean_hmm, try changing to a higher port?15:35
cashWhats up team15:36
cashGood Morning to All15:36
coasty2finished setting up 100 percent, what do you think fellow penguins? http://imgur.com/a/76kJw15:36
cashLooks good is that Elementary OS?15:36
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nicomachuscoasty2: head on over to #rice on the Rizon network and let me know some more things about that setup. Off-topic here.15:37
veepim using Hexchat but when I maximize the window, the right side extends past my screen, hiding the last inch give-or-take.  Can this be adjusted?15:38
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nicomachusveep: try asking in #Hexchat15:39
gargsmsNo. The error is consistent everywhere. Can I unbind it using something?15:39
veepnico: ok15:39
johnc4510sounds like maybe a resolution set incorrectly15:40
schwarzhallo15:41
cashHi guys - Dell e4310 keyboard back light doesnt turn on, fresh 16.04 install - any ideas?15:41
nicomachuscash: maybe some help here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/763552/keyboard-backlight-keeps-going-on-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts15:43
nicomachusin that one it keeps going on, but it at least shows where the settings are that you can check.15:43
ropoIam trying to make  a bootable (linux mint) disk using startup disk creator but I am getting--> “errno 5 - input/output error”, help15:45
cashropo which medium are you writing to?15:47
ropocash pendrive15:47
cashdid you check "restore partition image"15:49
cashor something else?15:49
SchrodingersScatropo: are you sure the flashdrive isn't toast?15:50
bekkscash: you need the particular dell driver for that - which most likely exists for windows only.15:51
cashhi bekks ty however it worked on fedora 24 :/15:51
cashand on ubuntu 14.0415:51
cash:((15:51
cashbut fedora has too many problems for me - cant print, not noob friendly.  gnome 3.22 is awesome however15:52
ropoSchrodingersScat, It isn't15:53
Guy1524_Hey guys, so I started using the open source radeon driver and I am getting 1 fps in a game that got 60fps on fglrx15:53
Guy1524_how do I check to make sure im not using software rendering15:53
Guy1524_because the performance is unbelievably bad15:53
Guy1524_also, when I stopped using fglrx, I had to use an older kernel as the newer one would freeze15:54
nook24Did one of you know a good web gui to use linux as router ( maybe gf compatible :D )15:58
Jesussshow change channel ?16:00
Jesusssjoin #offtopic16:00
nook24Jesusss: /j #channelname16:01
schwarzjesusss :)16:01
Jaggrocan someone tell me why there are 3 versions of snapd available for upgrade?16:03
Jaggrokubuntu 16.0416:04
makhzd16:08
ogshittingbullhello world16:13
ogshittingbulli need help16:16
gargsmsMy script is simply not getting executed on reboot. I tried /etc/rc.local, I tried crontab for both root and the user16:16
kittykittyi just put a desktop file in /usr/share/applications but it doesnt show in the unity launcher16:17
* Aesir_ 16:18
nicomachuskittykitty: does it show in the dash when you search for it?16:18
kittykittyno nicomachus16:18
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OerHekskittykitty add the desktop file properly, or logout/login . http://askubuntu.com/a/44770316:29
ayrusHi, my dongle is not connecting. Sometimes it connects and sometimes its not. http://pastebin.com/pV93AySB Kindly help16:30
ayruslogs http://pastebin.com/pV93AySB16:30
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OerHeksayrus, i read a lot [UFW BLOCK] .. maybe set some rule?16:32
ayrusOerHeks, no rules for that http://pastebin.com/hm3pgcnZ16:34
OerHeksit complains about port 8612, if i read correct16:34
explosiveayrus: try disabling ufw temporarily?16:35
ayrusOerHeks, yes but the problem is device is not connetcting as modem.16:35
ayrusexplosive, ok.16:35
OerHeks..16:35
ayrusexplosive, no luck. not conected as modem. switching to CD ROM.16:37
explosiveayrus: live cd you mean?16:43
ayrusexplosive, no.16:43
iceyanybody experienced networking missing after resuming from suspend in the last 48 hours? Before, I had no issues when resuming and now it's nearing 100%, running Xenial16:44
ayrusexplosive, http://pastebin.com/znhqDNUB syslog16:44
explosiveayrus: did it work?16:46
ayrusxenial release sucks as the wife after one year of marriage.16:46
cripcatei get a loud system sound, when trying to use backspace without anything to delete. any way to disable that?16:47
ayrusexplosive, no! :( before that i have problem with the Memory leak. some how I managed to correct that. not this usb modem.16:47
cripcate16.04 kernel 4.7.216:47
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iceycripcate: what program are you using, I have no issue doing the same16:48
explosivecripcate: try xset b off16:48
cripcateexplosive, it worked, thanks16:48
explosivecripcate: it's temporary though16:48
cripcateicey, i had it in terminal, irc, pretty much everywhere16:48
cripcateexplosive, can i put the command in my autostart config?16:49
explosivemight want to add it to the startup apps16:49
cripcateah okay16:49
cripcatety16:49
explosivecripcate: yes16:49
explosivenp16:49
explosiveayrus: try a newer kernel maybe?16:50
ayrusexplosive, yes I have tried the options. but its not working.16:50
explosiveayrus: did it used to work?16:51
ayrusexplosive, currently running 4.4.0-36-generic. I have tried to boot with 4.7 and 4.7.3. that also not worked.16:51
ayrusexplosive, I have tried with linux-image-4.6.3-040603-generic, 4.6.7-040607-generic16:53
explosiveayrus: did it work on 14.04?16:54
ayrusexplosive, yes. that works perfectly on 14.04. never got a single problem. I have formated the system and installed fresh copy from iso Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS. now its not working16:55
ltrtigerNew to ubuntu and new here. Lots of questions but will lurk and hopefully learn16:56
explosiveayrus: try sudo modprobe option , same for usb_wwan , usbserial and usb_storage16:57
superuserhi16:59
explosiveayrus: this might help https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157699716:59
superuserlol thanks16:59
ayrusexplosive, ok.16:59
explosiveayrus: it mentions something about "The 1bbb:f000 is the code for memory device mode, we need to switch to modem mode (1bbb:0017)."16:59
superuserluv u all16:59
superuserdo u like me? or not? if not i can leave17:00
cripcateexplosive, may i ask how you got all that know how and how long it took you? :D17:03
cripcatehope I'll get to solving problems myself one time :D17:04
r1nt3chi17:04
coasty2anyone here have any experience with running Ps CS3 and Illustrator CS3 on Wine?17:05
explosivecripcate: i don't know much about his problem, just googled the stuff :)17:08
miriamhey guys. I'm on an old pc with nvidia graphic cards. Should I use Nouveau or propietary graphic cards? Why?17:08
nedstarkmiriam, the proprietary one better implements the card's functionality usually17:09
nedstarkif the drivers app shows a proprietary 1 is available i'd use it17:09
miriamEven if the laptop is really old? What downside has propietary drivers? Security?17:10
ayrusexplosive, not worked! :(17:11
nedstarkmiriam, if nvidia wants to put malware in your pc, they could do it through the code built into the card17:12
nedstarkthats just fud17:12
nedstarkthe nouveau driver is probably ok for most uses, but you will get better performance from the people who had full details about how to write the driver, not the volunteer group with partial information17:12
veep_using a MBP, the auto-hide doesn't work.  When set, it will hide the Launcher, but it won't come back.17:15
miriamThank you @nedstark I've also heard about problem with update using propietary drivers. Is it true?17:15
patraskmiriam: security may be a downside yes; several vulns in the proprietary nvidia driver has been published17:15
veep_Can this be fixed so the Taskbar comes back and auto-hide works properly?17:15
veep_err..  Launcher, not taskbar17:15
patraskmiriam: not sure about nouveau; im guesing it's nowhere near as well-audited17:16
patraskmiriam: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-5264/Nvidia.html17:16
patrasknot a stellar track record17:17
natmalHello! I'm having trouble with unattended-upgrades; it's not sending email notifications. Unattended-Upgrade::Mail is set to a full email address (not a user), MailOnlyOnError is set to false, and mailx is installed and confirmed working.17:20
erialdohello everyone. I accidentaly added a wrong command in the context menu to open the txt file . How to remove it ?17:20
natmalI'm on 16.04.1 LTS17:20
nedstarkmiriam: i've never had issues updating proprietary drivers.17:20
explosiveerialdo: how did you add it?17:22
erialdo@explosive: I used terminal to $mimeopen -d file.txt then proceded to add the command . Unfortunately I wrote the command wrong and now I am stuck with that in the context menu.17:24
erialdo@explosive : By the way I wanted to add the context menu the notepad++. I achieved that but after I made the mistake17:25
explosiveerialdo: what happens if you run mimeopen -d again?17:28
erialdoexplosive: it shows the new option again17:28
erialdoexplosive: there must be a config file for the context menu of ubuntu mate17:29
explosiveerialdo: try right click properties17:29
erialdoexplosive: that lists all the possible application or commands to open files17:29
explosivetry the reset button17:30
erialdowhere is it?17:30
explosivehmm i'm using unity, it's to the right17:31
explosivei mean left17:31
explosivein the open with tab17:31
erialdoexplosive: I think we are talking different language . I am using gnome for ubuntu mate17:31
erialdothe default one17:32
explosivei've not really used that much to be honest17:32
erialdoexplosive: I searched all over the internet17:33
erialdoexplosive: it is a little pesky17:33
explosiveerialdo: try adding an odd name17:34
erialdoexplosive: better not17:34
explosivethen grep the home dir for it grep -i "name" -R ~/17:34
erialdoexplosive: because I already see the remove button when I open the context menu when I right click17:35
VaskaHello - I'm trying to install gnome-scheduler, that nice crontab editor, but I can't seem to find it with apt in 16.0417:35
erialdoexplosive: but its deactivated17:35
laserbea14445Is someone here is using pcsx2 (PS2 emulator)? I'm wondering how well it runs on a recent Intel GPU (Broadwell gen)...17:36
explosiveerialdo: i'm trying it17:36
erialdoVaska: sudo dpkg -i gnome-schedule_2.3.0-0ubuntu16.04_amd64.deb17:38
erialdoVaska: I found it on the internet17:38
explosiveerialdo: found it17:39
explosive/home/e/.local/share/applications/blabla-usercreated-1.desktop17:39
erialdoexplosive: what is that?17:39
Vaskaerialdo: thanks!17:40
explosivethe command i used was "blabla" it's also here /home/e/.local/share/applications/defaults.list:application/x-shellscript=blabla-usercreated-1.desktop;17:40
explosiveerialdo: that's the file that contains the context stuff17:40
erialdoVaska: no problem17:40
erialdoexplosive: one min17:40
Vaskaerialdo: crap, I need x86 :(17:42
erialdoexplosive: let me try that and restart17:47
Vaskaerialdo: no worries, compiling it from git source now :)17:47
explosiveerialdo: ok17:47
erialdoexplosive, fucked up removed the right one17:47
erialdoexplosive: you there?17:50
explosiveerialdo: yeah17:53
explosiveall good?17:53
erialdoexplosive, I think I found it17:53
erialdonope , not yet ...arghhhh17:53
explosivewhat did you delete..?17:54
erialdoexplosive, some wine-application desktop17:55
explosivemaximum create another user and copy the configs to your one17:55
DarFoxHacker117:56
DarFoxHackerr.17:56
DarFoxHackerim haxker17:56
DarFoxHackerim17:56
erialdoexplosive: not a big problem17:56
DarFoxHackerim hacker17:56
DarFoxHackeru17:57
erialdoexplosive just a little annoying to see "A wine application" on the list of the programs17:57
DarFoxHackeris that anyone17:57
DJonesDarFoxHacker: Ok, but do you have an Ubuntu support question? Thats what this channel is for17:57
DarFoxHackeruse kali linux17:57
erialdoexplosive, eventually I will find the solution17:57
DarFoxHackeris it anyone use kali linux!!!!!17:57
DJonesDarFoxHacker: This is the Ubuntu support channel, Kali has its own supprt networks17:58
DarFoxHackerAttack my IP please   127.0.0.117:58
compdoclol17:59
explosive:D18:00
erialdoDarFoxHacker that is not your IP18:04
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curlyearsheigh hough18:10
fedorthis is test message18:12
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explosivethis is a popquiz message18:13
fedorHi there. I want to install python 2.7 packages in 16.04. I am having trougle doing that now. I am used to installing packages via pip (in Python 2.7) and pip3 (in python 3.4 or 3.5 for that matter). Now after upgrading to 16.04 i cannot install python packages via pip in python 2.7. How do I proceed to make pip work in python 2.718:14
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fedoris there any activity in this chat. I just do not get it18:19
ultrixxyou just wrote something18:20
GrorcoI can't get service-config-samba to start it keeps prompting me for my password but then doesn't load. Any ideas on what to do?18:20
DJonesfedor: Just be patient, if anbody can help, they normally reply.  If you don't get a reply, maybe repost your question in about 15 minutes to give users chance to  change in the channel18:21
t2mknHost OSX 10.11.6, VirtualBox 5.1.0, Guest Ubuntu 16.04. text copy past work fine, but file can't be. what I am missing. Any one please.18:21
mattflyhello18:23
mattflypeople!!!18:23
explosivehello18:23
mattflyi want to take a screenshot from another display18:23
mattflybut it looks like X server freezes the other sidplay when you go to other display18:24
mattflyhow can i keep both displays running?18:24
mattfly or take anon full black screenshot?18:24
vdamewoodt2mkn: Would you be interested in a work-around, or are you specifically interested in getting file copy/paste between systems working?18:29
fedorI made a workaround which makes use of python3. That is good enough for me. The problem however persists.18:35
curlyearsfedor:  this channel has very strict restrictions on "off topic" discussion.  Hence, unless someone has something "on topic" to say or ask, the channel idels quietly.  Fir example, this explanation is techincally "off topic"18:37
nedstark#ubuntu-offtopic has non-technical discussion, such as Apple's plan for replacing the iPhone 8's screen with wireless brain implant visualization18:39
curlyearsidles18:39
guest2It didn't let me join. Racists! We proud Andromedans will not be treated so!18:43
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OerHeksguest2 time to read the message you got, help in #freenode18:46
OerHeks!register18:46
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode18:46
afidegnumhello, can anyone explain the use of apt-ftp command?18:55
erialdoexplosive: ?18:56
EriC^^erialdo: hey18:57
cuddylierI accidentally pulled one of the drives in an mdadm raid 1, how do I get mdadm to see the drive again? It shows 1 drive missing: http://pastebin.com/raw/UTxpTKZ618:57
erialdoexplosive: winetricks did that problem18:57
guest2It is too late OerHeks. Our people consider this an act of war. Space Armada Warships are en route to destroy this tiny Class-14 planet. We will devour your planet's meager resources for the advancement of the Galactic Andromedan Empire !18:58
erialdoEriC^^: I had a problem with the context menu but now is solved18:59
guest2What is the difference between the new apt and aptitude?18:59
guest2And which is better?18:59
erialdoguest2: apt is better19:00
afidegnumany insight ?19:00
guest2What makes it so?19:00
EriC^^erialdo: ok cool, i'm explosive btw19:00
guest2@erialdo19:00
erialdo@explosive: ah ok .. winetricks caused the problem because apparently when installed it created 'A wine application' in the context menu19:01
erialdoexplosive, maybe I am wrong but this is what i understood19:01
erialdo@explosive anyway i think that still the caja-extensions context could be better19:02
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the_CEOALGUM BR AII ?19:09
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k1l!br | the_CEO19:09
ubottuthe_CEO: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.19:09
blackdrakehi19:10
the_CEOhi19:10
the_CEOwhat's your name?19:10
the_CEOALGUM BRRRRRRRRR AIIIIIIIIIIIIII ??????????????????????19:12
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the_CEO?????????????????????????19:12
the_CEO?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????19:12
k1lthe_CEO: stop that trolling.19:12
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DzAirmaXhey19:21
DzAirmaXhow important it is to over provision a ssd under ubuntu?19:21
akikDzAirmaX: over provision?19:25
OerHeksto *over* provision ? you don't do that, any hidden space is for the controller of that ssd, either cache or spare bytes in case of failures.19:25
anonanhi, i'm trying to create a modified ubuntu installer iso that contains a script to be executed in early_command. it seems like the script isn't called, though. i tried adding the script to the initrd, but it doesn't show up in the filesystem. what am i doing wrong?19:25
DzAirmaXyeah over provision19:26
DzAirmaXhttps://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/SSD_Over-provisioning_using_hdparm19:26
anonanwhen i say filesystem, i should specify that i mean the filesystem of the live-cd/installer19:26
DzAirmaXOerHeks: this is not a best practice to do so?19:27
benoitHi !19:28
OerHeksDzAirmaX, please read your own url, scepticly.19:28
akikYou have requested reducing the apparent size of the drive.19:29
akikThis is a BAD idea, and can easily destroy all of the drive's contents.19:29
akikPlease supply the --yes-i-know-what-i-am-doing flag if you really want this.19:29
lordcirthI don't know why you'd possibly want to do that19:29
lordcirthIf your drive is running out of spares, you need a new one19:30
akikand later on the page "VERY DANGEROUS"19:30
OerHeksit will go bonkers, indeed19:30
DzAirmaXOerHeksL and akik: I might not express myself correclty19:31
OerHeks"Many Linux distribution files enable the libata parameter, ignore_hpa." great tutorial19:31
DzAirmaXOerHeksL and akik: I have a ssd and I would like to install ubuntu on it, my question is: do I need to do somehting on the ssd before the install?19:32
akikDzAirmaX: oh that's easy, no19:32
OerHeksNo, use it like a hdd19:32
DzAirmaXok perfect boyz19:32
DzAirmaXthanks for the advice19:32
DzAirmaXlast thing19:33
OerHekstraditional hdd's have more chance for whitespots than ssd's19:33
DzAirmaXwhat about the swap on ssd, I read ZRam is a good alternative. Any thoughts?19:33
lordcirthDzAirmaX, if it's a modern SSD, it won't kill your drive to put swap on it. But it will use space.  zram is cool.19:34
DzAirmaXlordcirth: is it stable?19:34
lordcirthDzAirmaX, zram?  Yeah it's stable19:36
lordcirthHalf our production servers run it19:36
DzAirmaXlordcirth: when you virtualize, you also install zram on the virtual machine?19:37
qwebirc48637Hello.19:38
qwebirc48637I need big help19:38
benoittell us your problem !19:39
lordcirthDzAirmaX, good question!19:39
qwebirc48637I want to use my USB headset on Lubuntu 15.1019:39
qwebirc48637Any ideas what to do?19:39
carogaqwebirc48637: plug it in ?19:39
qwebirc48637Well19:39
qwebirc48637Already had :D19:40
carogaGreat!19:40
OerHeks15.10 is dead, EOL.19:40
qwebirc48637Still from my laptop sound19:40
carogawell19:40
lordcirthDzAirmaX, I am not sure.  I think installing zram in the VM would let the guest kernel choose what to compress better than the host would know.19:40
carogayou could check if your sound settings are adapted to use your headset?19:40
qwebirc48637I cannot open19:40
qwebirc48637I press Right Click\19:40
qwebirc48637Volume Control settings19:41
qwebirc48637And oppens me an empty comand prompt19:41
qwebirc48637I have PulseAudio already19:41
carogahttp://i.stack.imgur.com/rGCaW.png19:41
qwebirc48637Ahm19:42
natmalI'm having trouble with unattended-upgrades on 16.04.1 LTS; it's not sending email notifications. Unattended-Upgrade::Mail is set to a full email address (not a user), MailOnlyOnError is set to false, and mailx is installed and confirmed working. Am I missing something?19:42
qwebirc48637Does not let me there19:42
carogahmm19:42
carogaand on your options panel, are you able to select sound from there?19:42
qwebirc48637Nope.19:42
qwebirc48637Just shows like you do in Windows 7.19:42
qwebirc48637Without mixer.19:42
qwebirc48637One simple drag scroll for volume and mute box.19:43
qwebirc48637That is it.19:43
qwebirc48637Is there any command?19:43
qwebirc48637that I can use19:44
Ubuntivityhello19:45
tomreynqwebirc48637: you should really upgrade to a supported ubuntu version19:45
qwebirc48637Well19:45
qwebirc48637Isnt this version supported19:45
tomreynno, it is not19:45
lordcirth!eol19:46
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:46
UbuntivityI have a problem with Ubuntu 12.04 brightness on Lenovo B570e19:46
lordcirth16.04 has been out for a while19:46
qwebirc48637My PC is slow as hell I cannot wait 1 hour, tell me another way or I must19:46
xangua!12.0419:46
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is a currently-supported !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120419:46
qwebirc48637I have only 1 GB RAM19:47
qwebirc48637I was on 15.04 before19:47
qwebirc48637But was buggy19:47
Ubuntivityxangua: it is still supported19:47
Ubuntivity*/19:48
qwebirc48637Ok.19:48
qwebirc48637There was a command19:48
qwebirc48637Can you tell it to me19:48
qwebirc48637In the cmd19:48
UbuntivityI tried adding "acpi-brightness=vendor" to the boot parameters with no effect19:49
qwebirc48637Is the command: sudo do-release-upgrade19:49
qwebirc48637?19:49
Ubuntivitythe brightness is always at maximum19:49
akikUbuntivity: the dash - should be an underscore _19:49
lordcirthqwebirc48637, full instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:50
Ubuntivityakik: are you 100% sure?19:50
akikUbuntivity: actually it should be acpi_backlight19:50
qwebirc48637I started an update19:50
qwebirc48637NVM19:50
qwebirc4863730 mins19:52
qwebirc48637and I get 16.0419:52
qwebirc48637:)19:52
qwebirc48637Is there anyone Bulgarian?19:53
OerHeksmaybe answer #4 works for you, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/124464519:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1244645 in linux (Ubuntu) "8086:0106 [Lenovo B570] Brightness is at 100 percent and will not change" [Low,Incomplete]19:53
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AditHello. I was trying to upgrade from 15.04 to 16.04 but I had a power failure midway and now, I get this when I try booting up: http://i.imgur.com/T4l60qO.jpg19:58
OsamaAkbarAdit: A safer way to upgrade is to use 'sudo do-release-upgrade'19:59
OsamaAkbarAdit: Using your Console19:59
AditOsamaAkbar: I'll keep that in mind for the future, but how can I resolve this for the time being?20:00
OerHeksAdit, boot in recoverymode and perform Sudo dpkg --configure -a20:00
OsamaAkbarYes, that is a way too.20:00
OerHeksthen run apt install -f, all should be fine20:00
AditOerHeks: Thank you :)20:01
natmaldo-release-upgrade was the only way I could update Ubuntu on my UDOO Quad; the GUI updater would ask me for authentication and then just close. >:|20:01
OsamaAkbarI was going to say use flash drive bootable, but also fine20:01
guest2Is recovery mode the same as single-user mode20:01
OsamaAkbarguest2: Well, not that, but kind of, yes.20:02
OsamaAkbarGuys?20:03
OsamaAkbarAny gamers here?20:03
karimoff+20:03
karimoffq all20:03
OsamaAkbarHow do you play League of Legends on a toaster? Any tips?20:03
OsamaAkbarI hate Windows a bit20:04
karimoffno, i dont play this20:04
nicomachusOsamaAkbar: please stay on topic20:04
karimoffexit20:04
blackdrakehi20:04
OsamaAkbarnicomachus: Well, I just asked for suggestions man. :D20:04
OerHeksthat is what #ubuntu-offtopic is for20:05
OsamaAkbarIs there any way that I can install NVidia GeForce 960M video driver on Ubuntu?20:06
prettyinredThose who have obtained power through lies, will do anything to remain in power through lies. Truth by its nature is a catalyst of correction, at its heart, truth is necessary for our very survival. Consider the desperation within the minds of a group which so desperately fears the truth of legitimate dissent that it would demand censorship of free speech.20:07
prettyinredWorld jewry is in a mad dash to shut down internet activists who have been effectively exposing jewish criminality and initiating a movement to rid ourselves of jewish tyranny.20:07
prettyinredhttp://www.renegadetribune.com/jewrys-move-shut-down-online-anti-semitism/20:08
OerHeksprettyinred, thos who don't read the topic should do so.20:08
OerHeks!ot > prettyinred20:08
ubottuprettyinred, please see my private message20:08
OsamaAkbarAnyone developer?20:09
nicomachusOsamaAkbar: do you have specific support question about Ubuntu?20:09
OsamaAkbarI said them man20:09
OsamaAkbarI was going to suggest something for your OS as an addon.20:10
WoCis there an easy way to remove apparmor ?20:10
nicomachusOerHeks: prettyinred has been here under a few different names, spamming the same crap.20:10
prettyinrednicomachus, Excuse me?20:11
prettyinrednicomachus, Take it private if you have an issue. This is a support channel.20:11
nicomachusOsamaAkbar: I don't see any support questions. Unless you're having an issue with your Ubuntu OS right now that you need help with, please leave the channel.20:11
OsamaAkbarnicomachus: Leave him. Just follow his IP address and restrict him.20:11
OsamaAkbarOk20:11
OsamaAkbarthanks foe the help20:11
OsamaAkbarfor*20:11
OsamaAkbarBye20:12
OsamaAkbarHave a nice evening20:12
OsamaAkbaror day20:12
prettyinrednicomachus, Right now exposure is going viral. That's why you're seeing people spreading awareness in support channels.20:12
OerHeksprettyinred, we don't support your message, take it elsewhere please.20:13
OerHeks!ops20:13
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melesMy HDD seems to have a hardware defect. I heard some weired clicking, but it still seemed to work. Now it is not anymore, i took it out of the computer and plugged it into another one. I can't access it and dmesg says http://paste.ubuntu.com/23161053/ can anybody help me what I could do to access the data and backup them (I have a backup but would like to get the lattest data also from the HDD).20:18
OerHeksouch,  blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 020:21
texlaUpon completing upgrade 14.04 to 16.04 prior to login I get a message (/dev/sda1 clean XXX.XXX file, xxx.xxx blocks >What do I need to do to clear that message20:21
lordcirthtexla, why do you need to clear it?20:21
texlalord20:22
texlalordcirth, It was not there prior to upgrade why is there now and what does it mean20:23
OerHeksmeles, maybe testdisk can save some data, but you need enough space on a seperate drive then ( and sort files manually)20:23
OerHekshttp://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step20:24
lordcirthtexla, it means that fsck checked your disk on boot and it was fine.20:24
OerHeksif that message keeps coming back, fsck worked but drive is not fine.20:24
lordcirthOerHeks, what triggers it to run?20:25
OerHeksdepends what sda1 is ..20:25
texlaError not sda 1 but sda6 which is the partition for ubuntu20:26
OerHeksit is a flag in fstab http://askubuntu.com/questions/761653/startup-problem-in-16-04-lts20:27
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Ntemisi cant reboot my laptop ->it freezes20:33
Ntemisi can only shutdown20:33
melesOerHeks i already tried testdisk it says Unable to open file or device /dev/sdb: No such file or directory20:34
tomreynNtemis: at which point does it freeze? what do you see on screen? is there anytrhing in syslog?20:35
tomreyn...or dmesg.log20:36
Ntemison final screen when gets on the console out put20:36
Ntemishow i check the syslog?20:37
Ntemisor/and dmesg.log?20:37
professor_sadasdHow can I install glib-2.0 version 2.26 or later?20:37
apb1963So I guess bashing-OM is hiding.  lol20:37
Ntemisi think is a systemd issue20:37
apb1963professor_sadasd: Why do you want to?20:38
professor_sadasdI want to install midnight commander.20:39
dreamscape_hey guys i have a partition i want to auto mount at start up. (sda5) what is the command to do this in term?20:39
apb1963a man after my own heart20:39
k1lprofessor_sadasd: midnight commander is in the ubuntu repo already.20:39
fakamHello, I have a fresh install of kubuntu, When I play games it flickers a lot. I have a laptop with a built in intel vid card and a nvidia gaming card..20:39
professor_sadasdah thanks20:39
k1l!info mc | professor_sadasd20:39
ubottuprofessor_sadasd: mc (source: mc): Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:4.8.15-2 (xenial), package size 503 kB, installed size 1587 kB20:39
tomreynNtemis: system logs are in /var/log/ - you will need to use sudo to access some of them. you can use the 'less' text viewer to do so: sudo less /var/log/syslog20:39
apb1963fakam: See if changing the refresh rate helps.20:40
k1lfakam: which driver do you use? the nvidia from the ubuntu repo?20:40
fakami believe i installed the driver20:40
fakamwhere would i change the refresh rate20:41
sleepy_dreamscape_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/154180/how-to-mount-a-new-drive-on-startup20:41
nicomachusfakam: did you finally get it installed?20:41
dreamscape_?? i don't want to format the parition20:42
fakamhey nicomachus, yes i had to do crazy things with a uefi shim @_@20:42
SchrodingersScat!fstab | dreamscape_20:42
ubottudreamscape_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200709/page07.html and !Partitions20:42
nicomachus\o/20:42
fakamnow i'm trying to figure out why games flicker so much20:42
fakamI was so happy man lol20:42
fakamI freaked out a bit20:43
dreamscape_do i edit it with a text editor?20:43
dreamscape_lol why i ubuntu so hard to use20:43
fakamit's not hard to use, it's just not for everyone.20:43
sleepy_dreamscape_, for security, you can use nano, vi/vim, gedit20:44
fakamwhat's a good looking irc client for ubuntu/kubuntu guys?20:44
nicomachusirssi, weechat, hexchat20:44
nicomachusirssi and weechat are CLI clients, hexchat more of a classic GUI20:44
SchrodingersScatdreamscape_: once you get the hang of it it's straightforward.  First time can be boggling but then you see the reason behind things.  sudo nano /etc/fstab    if you want a cli text editor, and gksudo gedit /etc/fstab if you like gui things.20:44
sleepy_irssi is like for hardcore terminal users20:44
dreamscape_I can see inside the file but i have absolutely no idea what to do20:44
dreamscape_its mental20:44
nicomachussleepy_: meh.20:45
fakami know my terminal20:45
sleepy_I like my eyesight20:45
sleepy_hexchat is nice20:45
fakami want something that looks decent lol20:45
sleepy_I think pidgin also does irc20:45
dreamscape_why is this so hard? lol20:45
SchrodingersScatdreamscape_: read the documentation in the link, normally it's the UUID of the drive followed by the options you want, like the mount point, etc.20:45
fakami'm a fan of easy on the eyes20:45
dreamscape_it makes no sense to me20:45
sleepy_I forgot how steep of learning curve linux is20:46
SchrodingersScatdreamscape_: the fstab file tells ubuntu where to place the drive logically in your filesystem, and the mounting options.20:46
dreamscape_so what would i put to just make my partition mount automatically?20:47
fakamlinux has a curve but once you get passed it's a joy20:47
dreamscape_yeah linux is good, i love it but i stick to windows as linux frustrates the hell out of me. such simple things take ages to work out or even get to work20:47
sleepy_meh, idk if i ever found the joy, I might be a masochist20:47
fakamhaha20:48
dreamscape_windows - plug in drive, pops up.. linux.. plug it in, find sda, mount it, prey, automount... end up in the situation i am in now... lol its strange to me how much effort it takes to do simple things20:48
Ntemistomreyn: i think i got it20:48
fakami had no problem with plug n pray on linux20:49
dreamscape_XD20:49
nicomachuslol20:49
SchrodingersScatif it's an external, mine does just pop up20:49
dreamscape_im in command line only due to resources20:49
fakamlinux is not for everyone yet, but if you are a geek you will enjoy the good parts20:49
apb1963fakam: Try this link.  I don't know if it works or not, just found it.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/147580/how-to-see-change-screen-refresh-rate-or-monitor-frequency20:49
fakam_yes hexchat is prettier thanks20:50
jwhisnantAny particular recommendations on disk data recovery utilities. I have a laptop, with an encrypted disk I can't mount because I have several Error: UNC at LBA errors. Ubuntu 12.04 that I am accessing through a recovery CD.20:50
SchrodingersScatdreamscape_: ok, then good opportunity to learn.  if you're using /dev/sda5 as an example, then /dev/sda5 /foo/bar/mountpoint/ ext4 errors=remount-ro,relatime 0 1  #should be enough, where ext4 is whatever filesystem it is, etc.20:50
dreamscape_ok thanks20:51
Ntemistomreyn: i think i got it20:53
apb1963fakam_: Did I notice you said you had nvidia or was that someone else?  If so, you could try this one: sudo nvidia-xconfig   which I found here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/433855/how-to-make-custom-refresh-rate-stay-saved with more decent info.20:53
Ntemistomreyn: i think i got it20:53
Ntemistomreyn: oops sorry20:53
dumle29So I'm running 16.04 on my HP envy 13 and as soon as I plug in the charger, CPU performance plummets20:53
SchrodingersScat!uuid20:53
ubottuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)20:53
dumle29I can't even stream youtube propperly20:53
Ntemis:)20:53
fakam_how do you change the refresh rate on ubuntu/kubuntu20:53
dumle29Any ideas?20:53
Ntemistomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23161164/20:53
dumle29It's runing a 6200U i520:53
Ntemishttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23161164/ anyone?20:53
apb1963fakam_: Did I not just give you good info?20:54
anonanso, regarding my preseed/early_command problem, it seems like it never is executed. even when i make it run an infinite loop, the installation just continues regardless20:54
fakam_apb1963, I did not see it sorry :(20:54
anonanany ideas what i could be doing wrong? is preseed/early_command maybe not functional in ubuntu?20:54
dreamscape_SchrodingersScat that hasn't worked20:55
sud3skwhois20:55
fakam_apb1963, reading it now20:55
SchrodingersScat!details | dreamscape_20:56
ubottudreamscape_: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.20:56
fakam_apb1963, sudo nvidia-xconfig  command not found20:56
SchrodingersScatdreamscape_: what are you trying and what isn't working?20:56
dreamscape_Ok, I have 3 partitons, OS, DATA and Swap.. all are mounted apart from DATA i used to just double click it on the desktop to mount it but i've removed the gui now as my little atom machine was struggling. now i cannot mount my drive I'd like it to automatically mount at startup the device is sda520:57
Ntemisalso i have thousand of Sep 10 21:30:46 demetris-HP-510 ureadahead[667]: ureadahead:2425/cmdline: Ignored relative path20:59
SchrodingersScatdreamscape_: and so you have something like /dev/sda5 /media/username/DATA ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1   in your fstab then restarted and it wasn't in /media/username/DATA/ ?20:59
dreamscape_i put it what you typed, copied it over, rebooted and the drive wasn't mounted as i couldn't access it via network share, however the text was still in the file when i checked21:00
dreamscape_the file system is ntfs is that makes any differnce21:01
k1ldreamscape_: put it into the fstab to get it mounted21:01
dreamscape_I did21:02
dreamscape_it didn't mount when i rebooted21:02
k1ldreamscape_: sudo mount -a21:02
SchrodingersScatdreamscape_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab#ntfs I'm limited in my experience with ntfs, but this has an example anyway21:02
dreamscape_so /dev/sda2 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 ?21:03
SchrodingersScatthought you were working with sda5, but that looks like worth a shot21:04
dreamscape_oops, yeah sda521:04
SchrodingersScat!backups | dreamscape_ and it's never a bad time to have robust backups21:04
ubottudreamscape_ and it's never a bad time to have robust backups: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning21:04
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dreamscape_I don't have anything to put backups onto21:05
fakam_how do i know whether i have the nvidia drivers I need to make my games use nvidia and not the intel(builtin)?21:05
dreamscape_ooooo k21:06
dreamscape_its not even booting now21:06
tomreynfakam_: glxinfo (on a terminal)21:06
tomreynfakam_: there is most likely a better way which i just don't know21:07
fakam_tomreyn, zsh command not found?21:07
fakam_should I exit zsh?21:07
k1lfakam_: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'21:07
tomreynfakam_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mesa-utils21:07
tomreynfakam_: k1l's suggestion is better21:08
fakam_ok21:08
systestDoes anyone know how to get dnsmasq to report which upstream DNS servers it's using?  "nmcli devices show" will list info but it's not clear if that's what network manager told  dnsmasq to use or if it's asking dnsmasq for the info21:08
fakam_k1l, Kernel driver in use: i915_bpo21:08
tomreyni as in intel21:09
k1lfakam_: that is the intel.21:09
fakam_I want to use the nvidia gaming card for games.21:09
mike7390bonsoir je cherche un peu d aide pour un prob de son sure ubuntu version 16.0421:09
k1lfakam_: can you show the output url of "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999"21:09
fakam_k1l, yes21:09
k1lmike7390: english in here or #ubuntu-fr for french21:10
tomreyn!fr > mike739021:10
ubottumike7390, please see my private message21:10
fakam_k1l, Use netcat. it says21:10
mike7390thanks for the information21:10
tomreynde rien21:11
k1lfakam_: can you show the output url of "dpkg -l nvidia* | nc termbin.com 9999"21:11
fakam_i did21:12
fakam_it says use netcat21:12
k1lfakam_: i changed the command21:12
fakam_ok let me try21:12
fakam_k1l, http://termbin.com/rbfv21:12
nexus66hi21:13
fakam_hello21:13
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k1lfakam_: so go to your system settings -> softwrae and updates, and then there to the last tab and install the prop. nvidia driver21:13
tomreyn...or just use the open source one you already have21:14
fakamk1l, I'm on Kubuntu and can't find that, as if I was on ubuntu.21:14
k1lahhh, dont know where kde hides that prop. driver menue21:14
k1lmaybe #kubuntu knows21:14
fakamI asked :(21:14
fakamand searched.21:14
dreamscape_doesn't work - /dev/sda2 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 021:16
dreamscape_sda5*21:16
dreamscape_this is crazy21:16
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Drew__Keep getting connectivity error when trying to upgrade Ubuntu21:17
tomreynfakam: software-properties-kde21:17
fakammaybe I should just install ubuntu lol but i hate unity21:17
fakamtomreyn, thanks21:18
k1lfakam: "sudo ubuntu-drivers list"21:18
Ntemistomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23161164/21:18
fakamk1l, nvidia-36121:19
tomreyndreamscape_: can you mount it manually? IIRC it's just "ntfs" now, not "ntfs-3g"21:19
k1lfakam: "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"21:19
dreamscape_don't worry i got it :) i wa trying to access it via share but the mount point had changed from my user name to "windows"21:19
tomreynNtemis: what do you want me to do with this?21:19
fakaminstalling...21:19
dreamscape_updated the directory in samba and it's working now21:20
dreamscape_thanks for the help people21:20
fakamthank you guys btw, for sitting in here dealing with us lol21:20
Ntemismake breakfast21:20
natmalsudo make breakfast21:20
tomreynNtemis: make: *** No rule to make target 'breakfast'.  Stop.21:20
Ntemismake bacon21:21
fakamok k1l it's done, it had be disable uefi, so i guess I should reboot?21:22
k1lyes21:22
fakamok wish me luck, brb.21:22
fakamk1l, finished, how do I check whether it was all well?21:25
k1lfakam_: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'21:25
fakam:( Kernel driver in use: i915_bpo21:25
fakamintel still ugh21:26
natmalI don't suppose anyone can help me figure out why unattended-upgrade isn't sending emails, even though it's configured to do so?21:26
miriamhey guys! I have two propietary driver, wich one do I have to install? The first is "NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.131 from nvidia-304 (propietary, tested)" the second is "NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.131 from nvidia-304-updates (propietary)"21:27
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fakami use propietary21:27
Capum321hello21:28
Capum321i am trying to schedule a sleep after idle, with rtcwake, so it wakes after some time with this bash script https://paste.linux.community/view/b4ff90d8   what I do now to make it work automatically?21:28
fakamwhen i had ubuntu21:28
miriamok, but witch one of the two drivers fakam21:28
miriam?21:28
k1lmiriam: use the tested one.21:28
fakammiriam,  tested21:28
fakamk1l,  I guess I'm doomed, will I have more luck with Ubuntu?21:29
fakamor is it because of secure boot uefi21:29
k1lfakam: that doesnt make any difference. i just dont know where kde hides all that easy gui menus. but as i said: #kubuntu will know21:29
fakamk1l, thanks21:30
miriamthank you kil21:30
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apb1963miriam: How did you get to that question?  What command did you run to get where you were when you came in here?21:39
blackdrakehi any ubuntu developer here.21:39
blackdrake?21:39
k1lblackdrake: what is the issue?21:40
miriamI just opened software & updates >> additional drivers21:40
apb1963miriam: kde or unity?21:40
\9!ask | blackdrake21:41
ubottublackdrake: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:41
blackdrakek1l: I wanna develop some apps for ubuntu, need your help.21:41
miriamapb1963: no question. The tick was already in the nouveau driver but the sensor indicator of mate is showing me high temperatures so I thought that maybe it was drivers' fault.21:42
blackdrakeI dunno where to start, please help me with some links21:42
apb1963miriam: ok, thank you.21:42
lordcirthblackdrake, writing programs for Linux is not Ubuntu-specific21:42
k1lblackdrake: see https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/21:42
Bashing-omapb1963: I back on ... ya ready to start again ? Here in a bit though I got to take a pause for a short short .21:43
blackdrakeyou are rite lordcirth:21:43
blackdrakethanks k1l21:43
apb1963Bashing-om: I was going to run and get some lunch but.... hey I realized after you left last night that it was simply booting the disk in order of the BIOS21:45
apb1963Bashing-om: So I re-ordered the disks in the BIOS and voila!  16.04 disappeared off the menu.21:45
apb1963Bashing-om: leaving 14.04.{4,5}21:46
Bashing-omapb1963: Well we want to boot sda as the 1st priority in bios order . - then once sda is fine, we repair the other 2 drive's grubs .21:46
apb1963Bashing-om: So .5 boots21:47
apb1963Bashing-om: And I fixed the desktop with the help of #kubuntu and #kde21:47
Bashing-omapb1963: So we are done with sda 14.04 .. and moving on ?21:48
apb1963Bashing-om: It was a simple matter of right clicking on the background and selecting "folder view" instead of the default view.  Voila!  Desktop icons restored.  Then I added a new default panel...21:48
apb1963Bashing-om: I think so21:48
Fendarisis it possible that in ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa you get less options to install drivers with ubuntu 15.04 than with 16.04?21:49
apb1963Bashing-om: 16.04 won't boot... get a black screen and freeze21:50
Fendarisit only shows me up to 352 with ubuntu 15.04, and I installed 670 on 16.04 earlier21:50
Fendarisnomodeset apb?21:50
apb1963Bashing-om: And in fact.... to get to it at all, I have to go through the BIOS and select it.  Kind of odd.21:50
apb1963Fendaris: Not yet... Didn't get a chance.21:51
Fendarisi can boot fine with nomodeset, cant without, black screens etc21:51
Bashing-omapb1963: Let's leave the control 16.04 to last .. where is 12.04 installed to ? my memory is failing me .21:51
Fendarisbefore installing the right drivers21:51
k1lFendaris: ubuntu 15.04 is dead. dont use that anymore21:52
Fendaris16.04 is not compatible with cuda 7.521:54
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k1lFendaris: ubuntu 15.04 is dead. you dont get any security or bugfix updates. and the repos will be shut down.21:54
Fendaristhat doesnt solve any of my problems kil21:55
k1lFendaris: 15.04 doesnt solve any of your problems, right. because its not a solution. so what is the issue now exactly on 16.04?21:55
apb1963Bashing-om: checking21:55
Fendarisit is, it is compatible with cuda 7.521:56
Fendarishttps://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads21:56
Fendaristhe issue is that 16.04 is not compatible with cuda, and my multiple attempts of getting it to run failed, and ultimately killed my installation anyway21:56
OerHeks!info nvidia-cuda-toolkit21:56
ubottuPackage nvidia-cuda-toolkit does not exist in xenial21:56
k1lFendaris: we dont support 15.04 anymore. so i dont know what you are talking now in here about 15.04.21:56
FendarisYou dont support the gtx1080 anyway21:57
k1l!info libcudart7.521:58
ubottuPackage libcudart7.5 does not exist in xenial21:58
Fendarisubuntu is so out of date with regards to that that nothing you have to do to get those things running is supported in any full combination, kil21:58
Fendarisonly subpackages21:58
Fendarisit s like gpu > 600$? go home21:58
Bashing-omFendaris: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/106780/en-us >> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .21:58
OerHeks.. 16.04 is an LTS, aims on stable, and you have the latest hardware. please rant on..21:58
k1lFendaris: ok. if you want to run unsupported ubuntu there is no sense in just ranting in here. bye21:59
Fendarisi already installed all the drivers on 16.04 Bashing21:59
Fendarisusing it directly from the homepage didnt work, but it worked with ppa s21:59
FendarisI just curiously found out that if I access the same ppa, i dont get the same install options with 16.04 and 15.04, I m still learning my way aroudn21:59
k1lFendaris: because PPAs dont offer the same packages for every release.22:00
OerHekswhy should ppa maintainers support EOL packages? lolz22:00
Fendarisyes that s what i learned now22:00
k1lFendaris: and since 15.04 is dead there will be no new packages anyway22:00
Fendarisimo it would be nice if nvidia would bring cuda 7.5 up to 16.04. But tensorflow says you are supposed to use 7.5, while nvidia seems to want to bring 8.0 to 16.0422:00
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OerHeksmy best guess it will be in 16.10 nxt month22:01
Fendaristhere are only packages for 15.04 and 14.0422:01
Fendarismaybe they only do .04?22:01
OerHeks16.04 is lts so don't get exited22:02
k1ljust 2 minutes ago you insulted us because ubuntu only supports old packages. now you demand even older packages?22:02
FendarisKil, you are just judging without knowing what I m trying to do anyway.22:02
FendarisI ve been at this for 20 hours or so, so tried multiple combinations by now22:02
OerHeksdo we need to know if it is unsupported?22:02
FendarisAs I said GPU > $600 - unsupported22:03
Fendarisgtx1080 drivers are only in that ppa22:03
k1li guess you have a "i want ubuntu to ship only the right packages for me" issue. which is quite difficult to do that for every user at the same time.22:03
apb1963Bashing-om: ok I'm not sure.  sdb1 is labled 12.04 but I'm pretty sure that's where I put 16.04.... so that leaves sdc1... but I'm not sure that's right.  I'm looking at it with gparted... I forgot what we looked at yesterday to figure it out.22:03
FendarisKil, would you allow me to focus on the solution intead of a philosophical package discussion?22:04
k1lFendaris: which is no news, since a) the latest nvidia cards get linux support some time afterwards and b) ubuntu 16.05 is from april this year. and the package version freeze was even before april.22:04
FendarisIf you say "it is difficult to support a driver for the gtx1080, which lots of people now have" then I have no opinion on that and am not involved in the process anyway22:05
k1lFendaris: i asked you about facts right on the start where you started your teaching of how less i know.22:05
apb1963Bashing-om: yeah yeah.. it is right.  I have it mounted on /mnt/d which confused me... but looking at it... yeah, it's a root.22:05
Fendaristhe driver also works fine with the ppa on 16.04.22:05
k1lFendaris: so a "hi, i use 16.04 and i need package X in version Y".22:05
k1l*would help22:06
FendarisI cam here to verify that I m not having hallucinations and that the driver that is available for 16.04 is really not available for 15.0422:06
FendarisNow I need to figure out what to try next ^^22:06
Fendarisprobably install 16.04 again later22:07
tomreynFendaris: next, you need to upgrade, to a supported ubuntu release22:07
FendarisTomreyn, but there is no fully supported solution :/22:07
tomreynFendaris: whats lacking, what's the problem you are trying to solve?22:07
apb1963Fendaris: What is your goal?  Are there any constraints to that goal?22:08
tomreynFendaris: oh you're the cuda person from yesterday, please forget i asked.22:08
FendarisYes, I am trying to install Cuda22:08
Fendaris7.522:08
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Fendarisand the gtx1080 drivers at the same time22:09
FendarisI have the gtx1080 driver working in 16.04, and cuda in 15.0422:09
Fendarisso will probably try cuda in 16.04 again22:09
k1lFendaris: and you are sure cuda 7.5 is supported by the latest nvidia drivers supporting that card?22:10
FendarisYes22:10
tomreynFendaris: why dont you just install nvidia-cuda-toolkit on 16.04 as i suggested last night?22:10
FendarisI did22:10
tomreynbut?22:10
Fendarislots of different errors, ultimately killed the 16.04 installation, so I checked out the older linux distributions, because they are listed on the nvidia page22:10
FendarisI know it s possible to get 7.5 running on 16.422:10
FendarisAnother problem I had was that if I install it with that apt-get program... I cant choose the installation destination? And I wanted to put it in the suggested installation folder /usr/local/cuda/22:11
Fendarisbut it s a nice learning experience, the old ubuntu versions, too22:12
apb1963Bashing-om: You gone?22:12
Fendarisis it possible to just upgrade 15.04 to 16.04 or do I have to do a fresh installation?22:12
tomreyn!dirs | Fendaris22:13
ubottuFendaris: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview  see also: man hier22:13
k1lFendaris: 15.04 -> 15-10 -> 16.0422:13
FendarisService Temporarily Unavailable22:13
tomreynit wont take long, probably just a quick maintenance. use google cache or archive.today22:14
apb1963Bashing-om: OK I need to grab a bite back in about 30 or so.22:14
Fendarisbrb trying the upgrade manager22:15
tomreynFendaris: the wiki is now available22:16
tomreyni mean help.ubuntu.com is22:16
FendarisI dont really understand why the partition tool during the installations doesnt offer ntfs22:17
Fendaristhe text i read sound like it can do ntfs, but it s not offered as an option for partitioning22:17
OerHeksntfs is not posix.22:17
Fendarishm could i22:18
k1lyou cant use ntfs to install ubuntu on22:18
Fendarisinstall cuda now with 15.04... and then upgrade to 16.04 but keep cuda_22:18
Fendaris?22:18
OerHekscan you install anything now :-D22:19
OerHeksplease there is no escape, go for 16.04.22:19
Fendarisbut does it stay? ^^ the upgrade manager just told me it s deleting a lot of incompatible packages ^^22:20
Fendarishey, I don't mind 16.04. I liked it best xD22:20
Fendarisevery version lower was giving me more and more problems during installation ^^22:20
Fendaris15.04 cant handle my wlan device22:20
Fendarisand 14.04 cant handle my cable device either22:20
Fendarisprobably faster just to install 16.04 directly instead of waiting through two updates22:25
Fendarisgonna do that.  brb22:25
veepHaving trouble getting touchegg to work in a MBP.  I've changed using "synclient TapButton2=0" and all that but can't seem to get it to work.  It just doesn't respond.  However the Ubuntu stock gestures work.  4fingers brings up dash.  3 finger double click then hold brings up switcher22:25
Fendarisand then try with cuda 822:25
veepinstalled the touchegg GUI22:26
kusoh wow screen is pretty cool22:26
veepanyone know how Id be able to get touchegg working to customize the 3/4 finger gestures?22:27
kungr Anyone currently using remastersys? Or imaging there install? I bork my install quite a bit and want a streamlined method for re-install22:27
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Capum321i am trying to schedule a sleep after idle, with rtcwake, so it wakes after some time with this bash script https://paste.linux.community/view/b4ff90d8   what I do now to make it work automatically?22:34
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fakamhow do you check which video card is in use?22:46
kogmoinxi - G22:47
deviselike little bitches22:47
deviselol22:47
devisesuck my dick22:47
fakamkogmo, command not found22:48
kogmosudo apt install inxi22:48
fakamPU~Dual core Intel Core i5-6200U (-HT-MCP-) speed/max~470/2800 MHz Kernel~4.4.0-36-generic x86_64 Up~19 min Mem~1324.5/11929.2MB HDD~1000.2GB(4.6% used) Procs~229 Client~Shell inxi~2.2.3522:49
Bashing-omfakam:  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'  : wuick and only that point .22:50
fakamty22:50
fakamugh still the intel, even after driver manager says nvidia is selected.22:50
fakambeen working on this all day.22:51
warren_hi I set up a wireless access point using ubuntu mate 16.04, where can I find information on the devices connected to my ap?22:51
Guy1524hey guys, whenever I plug my headphones w/ mic in, it uses my headphone's broken mic and there is no option to use built in speakers unless I unplug the headphone I wish to use22:51
fakamwelcome to linux.22:52
Bashing-omfakam: nvidia-prime installed ? what does nvidia-setting have for switching ? . gotta log out/in for the switch to happen .22:52
kogmoI think you can manually select that in sound settings22:53
fakami don't have  nvidia-prime i guess sudo apt-get install22:53
fakamnm  nvidia-prime is installed22:53
fakamnvidia-prime is already the newest version (0.8.2).22:54
Bashing-omfakam: Are you certain that you have nvidia card .., and the correct version driver ... as now it is expected when the driver is installed, nvidia-prime also installs .22:54
fakamBashing-om, i did logout after selecting nvidia in driver screen22:54
fakambut it keeps showing intel as in use.22:54
harishkrupomy keyboards right alt is mapped to ISO_SHIFT_3 how can i reset it?22:55
fakamyes i have an nvidia sticker on my lappy lol22:55
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Bashing-omfakam: driver conflict perhaps ? what returns ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' on a pastebin . see what is installed .22:56
fakamBashing-om, http://pastebin.com/Nkf43juq22:57
z00m_someone had tried DUO authentication for local user, not ssh , the ssh work fine I can't start with 2fa22:58
harishkrupoquit23:00
Bashing-omfakam: Hummm .. it is all there .. should have no problem .. At this point I just do not know . Maybe take a read and see what X thinks ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' See if the system reports a problem .23:00
fakamBashing-om, i can play games and they look fine i just get a bad flicker.23:01
fakamlinux destroyed this saturday lol, time for like 5 beers, thanks for the help.23:03
veeptouchegg help anyone?23:07
Bashing-omfakam: well .. maybe look at the hardware .. see if Nvidia reommends a different driver for the hardware . lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'23:08
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AditHello. I was trying to upgrade from 15.04 to 16.04 but I had a power failure midway and now, I get this when I try booting up: http://i.imgur.com/T4l60qO.jpg23:29
FendarisxWhy is this not working? "tar cudnn-8.0-linux-x64-v5.1.tgz" tar: Old option 'g' requires an argument.23:30
fluxbox-5235Hi guys quick question is SLiM display manager still compatible with ubuntu 16.04?23:32
minitruelock23:32
minitruesorry wrong channel23:32
Bashing-omAdit: Try running a file system check/repair from the liveDVD .23:32
apb1963Bashing-om: ok sorry sorry... took longer than expected.23:34
Bashing-omapb1963: Not too worried .. We onto 12,04, right ? where is it installed too ?23:35
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cxkidoes anyone know why htop, top and ps won't show root processes?23:36
apb1963Bashing-om: sdc123:36
Bashing-omapb1963: K; sdc1 .. then we reboot, set the boot priority to the 3rd drive as 1st priority . see if 12.04 boots .23:37
apb1963Bashing-om: it does... with problems23:38
warren_*crying23:38
Bashing-omapb1963: Well, we know this drill, huh .,. We fix the problems ... then fix grub .23:38
apb1963Bashing-om: I booted something... I don't know what version it is23:43
apb1963but it looks very Unity like23:43
apb1963and seems 16.04 ish23:43
apb1963I guess I'll try another disk.  That was the WDC23:44
AditBashing-om: I tried fsck and got this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/23161833/23:44
Bashing-omapb1963: lsb_release -a will tell .23:44
apb196316.04.123:45
Bashing-omAdit: sudo needed . run: ' sudo fdisk -lu ' to identify the ext4 (/) root partition .. then ' sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/sda1 " change sda1 to the correct target .23:46
FendarisxSorry, I've got a folder question: "chmod: cannot access '/usr/local/cuda/include/cudnn.h': Not a directory23:47
Fendarisx" .. but I think I have a directory like that, which I see here?23:47
Fendarisxwith that file inside?23:47
Fendarisxsudo chmod a+r /usr/local/cuda/include/cudnn.h /usr/local/cuda/lib64/libcudnn*23:47
apb1963Bashing-om: ok it's on the toshiba23:47
Bashing-omapb1963: K; sdc1 then is 16.04 install .. try the 2nd hard drive .. as 12,04 is next on the list .23:47
apb1963Bashing-om: no...23:48
AditBashing-om: /dev/sda3: clean, 507323/13885440 files, 45926491/55538176 blocks23:48
Bashing-omapb1963: run again the boot-repair script from 14.04 .. we see what is where for sure .23:48
apb1963Bashing-om: first... I don't need this partition to boot.  I only need it for data files23:49
apb1963Bashing-om: second... ok, I'll run the script...   where is it again?23:49
Bashing-omapb1963: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair .23:50
Fendarisxfigured it out23:50
Bashing-omAdit: And sda3 is where the booting root system is ? Then if so .. what now when you boot it ?23:51
AditBashing-om: I'll be back in a second23:51
cef_adminhello23:53
apb1963Bashing-om: for the record.. that's the first time I've seen that page.  Instead of doing all that, I opened a console window and it's on sdc123:53
Bashing-omapb1963: Did you not just advise that sdc1 is 16.04 ?23:54
apb1963Bashing-om: no23:55
apb1963[16:54] <apb1963> Bashing-om: ok it's on the toshiba23:55
apb1963[16:55] <Bashing-om> apb1963: K; sdc1 then is 16.04 install .. try the 2nd hard drive .. as 12,04 is next on the list .23:55
apb1963[16:55] <apb1963> Bashing-om: no...23:55
Bashing-omapb1963: K, well then boot sdc and we see what is and what we have to do .23:56
apb1963Bashing-om: it's 12.04.4 ... and I don't need it to boot.  However, it brings up the GUI but can't find /home so I can't login.  Again... I don't need it to boot.  it's old, I only keep it around in case there is data I forgot about.23:57
Bashing-omapb1963: well we got to remove grub from it .. else the 16.04 control grub is going to be nuts .23:58
apb1963Bashing-om: oh oh oh...  both / and /home are mounted on sdc123:59

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