[00:00] <k1l> no, please show the url again
[00:00] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I know...I was hoping it would find something to explain the broken GUI :(
[00:00] <var_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156839/
[00:00] <Guest77349> hi i was wondering if anybody had any suggestions about what program to use to convert mp3 to m4b?
[00:01] <bilb_ono> where would you change where apt-get is pulling from?
[00:01] <bilb_ono> like to add an address
[00:01] <k1l> var_: open a terminal and do a "ls -al" is there something owned by "root"?
[00:01] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: status report so far... http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156846/
[00:01] <var_> ok
[00:01] <k1l> bilb_ono: what exactly?
[00:02] <k1l> bilb_ono: changing mirror? adding ppa or 3rd party repo?
[00:02] <bilb_ono> k1l: I have an ubuntu server that is pulling packages from the regular us.ubuntu.com thing, but also from another url with packages.
[00:02] <bilb_ono> k1l: I think adding a 3rd party repo
[00:03] <stacks88> the command 'rl' is from randomize-lines package on ubuntu 14.04.. but on 16.04 what package is that installed under ? randomlize-lines doesnt seem to be it
[00:03] <k1l> bilb_ono: official ubuntu servers are in /etc/apt/sources.list; PPAs and 3rd party goes to /etc/apt/sources.list.d folder
[00:03] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156857/
[00:04] <var_> k1l http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156858/
[00:04] <nacc> stacks88: deleted in xenial (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/randomize-lines/+publishinghistory) replaced by 'shuf' ?
[00:04] <stacks88> oh
[00:04] <apb1963_> Bashing-om:
[00:04] <apb1963_> apt-cache policy gtk+3.0 | pastebinit
[00:04] <apb1963_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156859/
[00:05] <k1l> var_: sudo chown -R var:var .pki
[00:05] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Go ahead and let the upgrade complete .
[00:05] <var_> what am i removing?
[00:05] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I did... keep reading above :)
[00:06] <k1l> var_: not removing. making var user the owner of that folder again, like it used to be
[00:06] <var_> oh so the permissions are messed up?
[00:06] <k1l> var_: yes.
[00:07] <k1l> var_: sudo chown -R var:var .bash_history #since that file is messed too
[00:07] <var_> k1l
[00:08] <var_> after entering it just goes to a new line
[00:08] <k1l> var_: that means: no error
[00:08] <var_> but then i still get the same error for google-chrome-stable
[00:09] <netham45> Hey, df seems to be returning the wrong numbers for a specific NTFS partition I've got on here, it shows ~33% usage of a 3TB drive whereas du on the folder it's mounted under shows near 100% usage
[00:09] <k1l> please show the exact error output in a pastebin
[00:09] <letalis> i installed something on my system that is using systemv init scripts and apparently the service is running under systemd. how do i control that service under systemd?
[00:09] <var_> ok
[00:09] <netham45> Anyone have any idea what might be causing that?
[00:09] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Look'n and all I see is a bunch of aborts ???
[00:10] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I'm so sorry... when I said keep reading... I meant the next post/paste!
[00:10] <var_> k1l http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156884/
[00:11] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: bottom line is, it did everything requested no errors.
[00:11] <Uzrnm> I can't believe that Wi-Fi functionality is still not fixed on Ubuntu 16.04.1. I have removed Linux Mint, in order to install Xubuntu again, hoping that 3 months are more than enough for basic stuff to be fixed. However, that is not the case.
[00:11] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: But the gtk package is still in the same state.
[00:12] <var_> Can anyone tell me the disadvantages to using Chromium? if any
[00:12] <k1l> var_: sudo chown -R var:var /home/var
[00:12] <netham45> var_, not that it's going to matter for much longer but Chromium doesn't come with Flash.
[00:12] <apb1963_> Uzrnm: I've been working with a live 16.04 usb stick... wireless works out of the box on that.  Don't know about install yet.
[00:12] <k1l> var_: it seems you have messed a lot of file permissions with sudo usage
[00:13] <var_> this is a brand new install
[00:13] <var_> from iso
[00:14] <k1l> var_: i doubt it. the symptoms are cleary some misusage of root permissions
[00:15] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: listen... 14.04 is hosed.  Unless we're going to fix it (which would make installing 16.04 have less point right now), then we should probably just keep moving foward.
[00:15] <Uzrnm> apb1963_:I have decided to not connect to a wireless network while installing. Maybe that's the problem - important updates have not been downloaded. I will try to update.
[00:15] <var_> I starting having this problem after trying to install ember and react
[00:15] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Scary scary ,, but I am of the opinion that the package manager knows better than I what it is doing .. and if we hose up the system with the purge , will be easier to re-install than to fix the system if it is presently in a broken state ( all those rc's ) ..
[00:15] <apb1963_> Uzrnm: yeah... rumor has it, that's recommended.
[00:15] <var_> them i wiped my system and did a brand new install
[00:16] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: so... purge.  Right?
[00:17] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: What is your opinion if we ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' ?
[00:17] <var_> k1l that worked...youre awesome...but will i face more problems?
[00:17] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: my opinion is I agree with you.  It's hosed.  We either fix or reinstall and fixing will be harder.
[00:18] <k1l> var_: that should have cleared the most.
[00:19] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: but English being what it is, I like to be 100% clear on things that are immutable once done.
[00:19] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Not having a 14.04 install ... well sorta defeats setting up a multi-boot operation, no ?
[00:20] <var_> k1l: is there a command that I can run to see if anything else is messed up?
[00:20] <var_> I can understand how that happened
[00:20] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: yes... but the goal is to have a running system.  Multi-boot is secondary.... and really only important to the extent that I want to make sure I don't lose anything important that isn't in /home.
[00:20] <var_> can't*
[00:21] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: of course if 16.04 is buggy... then having 14.04 as a backup would be fairly important.
[00:21] <k1l> var_: it should be good now. there is no command. if you encounter new issue then you can have a look specifically
[00:21] <var_> k1l: thank you
[00:21] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: K; run ' sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ; sudo update-grub ' . and we move on .
[00:21] <k1l> var_: i guess you used some commands with sudo. or even ran gui programs with sudo (which is bad)
[00:22] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: During this mess and attempted cleanup, I discovered a /var/www/ directory on 12.04 I forgot about... tarred it up, xferred it over... and now 12.04 partition is 16.04.
[00:22] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: I can frequently break my main squeeze .. and yes I do have backup installs !
[00:22] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: umm.. do we purge or no?
[00:22] <var_> k1l: i update with sudo
[00:23] <var_> and auto remove and auto clean
[00:23] <k1l> var_: using apt with sudo is fine.
[00:23] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: backup has always been my achilles heel.... there's always reasons that screw me... so... I keep moving forward as best I can.
[00:23] <k1l> var_: but i dont know what other commands or programs you ran
[00:24] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: As the system no workie as is .. can not hurt . and will help bunches if we have to operate .
[00:24] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: sorry ... we're out of synch now.  purge yes?
[00:24] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: yes purge !
[00:25] <apb1963_> no I guess it's just me.  purge yes.  lol
[00:25] <cantoo> is it true that if you install a higher kernel version from ubuntu ppa you get no more security updates ?
[00:26] <tuffkirby> Anyone know how I can install Ubuntu Alongside my Windows 10?
[00:26] <k1l> cantoo: yes.
[00:26] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Gotta love it... "Removing kde-window-manager-common (4:4.11.11-0ubuntu0.2) ..."
[00:26] <var_> k1l: I ran some commands from a forum online that said needed to be run in order for google to work
[00:27] <Bashing-om> !info kde-window-manager-common trusty
[00:28] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: ^ ouch .. we have the technology, we can rebuild .
[00:30] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Yeah I don't know about that.  This is quite a bit more than it claimed it would do...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156947/
[00:30] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: but it is what it is... and we move forward.
[00:34] <lbracher> Bashing-om, I tried to set on /etc/default/grub but it didn't worked. Something happens when framebuffer module loads and I'm not able anymore to see anything on screen. How could I get rid of this? TIA! :)
[00:35] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Done and done.  What's next?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23156969/
[00:35] <Surfer2010> Does anyone use tvheadend? I don't see the upcoming recording anymore ... no clue why this could be ... hope to get help here because there is no extra channel for this thanks
[00:36] <uzrnm> Nope, still can't connect to a wireless network, after the system update.
[00:36] <nacc> Surfer2010: #kodi?
[00:37] <apb1963_> Surfer2010: Try #hts  I found it with /msg alis list *Tvheadend*
[00:38] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Forward ! ( does not look as bad as you think ) . Run ' sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ; sudo update-grub ' . then is next .
[00:38] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I did... see last paste above
[00:39] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: KDE the preferred DE for this install ?
[00:39] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: probably :)
[00:40] <Bashing-om> ProfessorKaos64: that was a yes or no question . Ya want kde as the DE ?
[00:40] <Surfer2010> apb1963_ what do you mean? Where find it?
[00:40] <nacc> !alis | Surfer2010
[00:41] <josharenson> Whats the channel for Yakkety?
[00:41] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: that was a yes or no question . Ya want kde as the DE ?
[00:41] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: yes please. A double helping if you don't mind.
[00:41] <Surfer2010> Found it thanks I will ask there
[00:41] <Bashing-om> josharenson: that be #ubuntu+1 /
[00:42] <josharenson> Bashing-om: ah thanks... I tried #ubuntu-next :-p
[00:42] <uzrnm> Nope, still can't connect to a wireless network, after the system update.
[00:42] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I say probably because I haven't seen the latest one so... for now... yes.  I reserve the right to change my mind later :)
[00:42] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: let's run ' sudo apt install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop ' .
[00:43] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-desktop
[00:44] <apb1963_> apb1963_: I think it maybe in universe.
[00:44] <apb1963_> oops.. talkin' to myself
[00:44] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I think it may be in universe
[00:44] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Huh ? cuase it is there . ' apt list kubuntu-desktop ' .
[00:45] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Not in mine :)
[00:45] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Which means turning on universe.
[00:45] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Yep " Section: universe/metapackages " .
[00:46] <apb1963_> So... kde is unsupported.  Fascinating.
[00:47] <apb1963_> And now we know how it's possible for my system to keep getting hosed.
[00:47] <apb1963_> well well well
[00:48] <apb1963_> we found the flaw in the ointment
[00:48] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: All in the process of learning . :)
[00:48] <de-facto> hmm how can i use the comma on numerical block in gnome? it just "blips" like on error instead of producing any inputs :((
[00:51] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: done
[00:52] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: oops... spoke too soon.  sorry
[00:52] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: ' sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda ' .
[00:52] <beaver> .
[00:54] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: We're still one step back; ignore it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157024/
[00:55] <LinuxReptil> Hola
[00:55] <mijk> I have an old convertible laptop and I'm looking for WM that's optimized for tablets. It's a Pentium M but it has a GeForce Go 6200
[00:56] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Let's see if the iron maiden floats .. reboot and let's see what happens .
[00:56] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Wring ^^ NO ...
[00:56] <Bashing-om> wrong**
[00:57] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: waht results ' sudo apt install kdepasswd ' ?
[01:00] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I'm walking the path.. Just downgraded kde-baseapps-data
[01:00] <uzrnm> Can't connect to a Wi-Fi network on 16.04.1. Anyone knows a solution to this problem, which was initially present 3 months ago, when they first rolled out the 16.04?
[01:01] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157053/
[01:03] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: what results ' sudo apt install software-properties-kde ' ?
[01:04] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: yeah I'm walking the path... you want me to just let you know when I'm done and/or reach an impasse?  I was just keeping you updated.
[01:05] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: If there is an error reported . I do need to see it, yeah .
[01:08] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157064/
[01:12] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: So.... I'm about to run apt-get install libkdecore5=4:4.13.3-0ubuntu0.3
[01:13] <apb1963_> Since i've learned that that entire nasty little string is the actual version number which confused me for literally years.
[01:13] <Sugar> #mofumofu
[01:13] <apb1963_> #tofutofu
[01:14] <Mojtaba> Hello, What do you suggest instead of TrueCrypt?
[01:14] <Mojtaba> I want something like the Truecrypt feature, which hides some parts of the disk.
[01:15] <jeffrey_f> Mojtaba: VeraCrypt  https://veracrypt.codeplex.com/
[01:15] <jeffrey_f> Mojtaba: it is actually a fork of TrueCrypt
[01:16] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Yuk .. PPA messing up the works ! "  4:4.14.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa1  " .
[01:16] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: hmm.... what ppa is that?
[01:16] <Mojtaba> Thanks
[01:17] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: my apt-get skills have grown stronger... but my ppa is still weak
[01:17] <apb1963_> I have a weak ppa
[01:17] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: ' apt-cache policy libkdecore5 ' see if it tells us what the PPA is .
[01:19] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157097/
[01:24] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: well that did not tell us . we get any hints ' dpkg -s libkdecore5 ' ?
[01:24] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157109/
[01:28] <gege_> bye
[01:29] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Yojjie .. I am stomewalled . what I expect to be installed " sysop@1404mini:~$ apt list libkdecore5 >> libkdecore5/trusty-updates,trusty-security 4:4.13.3-0ubuntu0.3 amd64 ' .
[01:29] <dirty_page_joe> kkk i was wondering . ."you rang" is aussie stuff?
[01:30] <kin> Tomreyn: Are you there
[01:30] <tomreyn> kin: possibly, but whats your actual question?
[01:31] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: are you running KDE?
[01:31] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I guess you must be if you have that package installed
[01:32] <kin> Well just now I made bootable of tiny linux and when I booted into it that Pink line did not came
[01:32] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: or did you get it by installing some other kde package instead of desktop?  Or maybe I didn't install desktop but something else :)
[01:32] <kin> It seems issue with the Display drivers
[01:32] <kin> Tomreyn: What do you think
[01:33] <tomreyn> kin: i think this channel provides #ubuntu support, but you could try ##hardware
[01:34] <kin> Tomreyn: Hardware?
[01:34] <kin> Tomreyn: What i need to DO?
[01:35] <tomreyn> kin: i told you before. optionally update bios. return to vendor,
[01:35] <tomreyn> for a different perspective, i would bet tiny linux provides an older kernel which does not exhibit the issue you are seeing.
[01:36] <tomreyn> but this is really just a guess
[01:36] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Dependencies: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157140/
[01:38] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Yeah .. been doing same same . we sure have to get this fixed as the whole system depends on it . still spinning my wheels .
[01:39] <kin> Tomreyn: What i know is that the Kernel has got nothing to do with exhibiting the Display issue, Its just allocates the memory to a program
[01:40] <OerHeks> that package libkdecore5 is from kubuntu-ninjas or mint?
[01:40] <apb1963_> OerHeks: I don't expect it should be?
[01:41] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Well I'm thinking to simply purge it and reinstall it.  Is that not a good idea?
[01:41] <kin> Tomreyn: I have already made a replacement waiting for the new laptop to get delivered as soon as possible, Lets hope it should not be a defective Piece
[01:42] <apb1963_> OerHeks: Unless somehow it migrated over from my 12.04 install when I checked out cinnamon?
[01:42] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Too risky as too much repends on it . I be getting my learning cap on . what returns ' ls -al /usr/share/lintian/overrides/libkdecore5 ' ?
[01:42] <apb1963_> OerHeks: I suppose that is a possibility... since I used debootstrap to install 14.04
[01:43] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 71 Oct 10  2014 /usr/share/lintian/overrides/libkdecore5
[01:44] <kin> Tomreyn: You are right Kernel sometimes exhibits the Display issue
[01:45] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Humm ..just a file .. Over my head as to how/why overrides work .. and who/what instituted this override . Back to scratching my head .
[01:45] <dancingdemon> hey guys, I'm having an issue with filezilla not lunching.
[01:45] <dancingdemon> What can I do to fix this?
[01:45] <dancingdemon> It was fine and all of a sudden it exited and whenever i double click the filezilla icon, it won't start
[01:46] <dirty_page_joe> sounds like a lock file
[01:47] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: yeah... the only reference I can find to the file is in a package called lantian which is a debian package checker.  No clue.  I don't know anything about overrides at all.  First I've heard of it.
[01:47] <dirty_page_joe> 1+3=9
[01:47] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: did you notice oerherks comment?
[01:47] <reisio> s/1+3/9/
[01:48] <dirty_page_joe> hehehe
[01:48] <dancingdemon> dirty_page_joe, what to do to fix this??
[01:48] <dirty_page_joe> dancingdemon, i dont know
[01:51] <dirty_page_joe> dancingdemon, can u display properties from not functioning icon and see to where it points? if Y, can you got there and find it? if Y can you invoke it from a terminal (usually in here useful messages may appear)?
[01:52] <dancingdemon> I right click on it and chose properties but nothing helpful is showing
[01:52] <dancingdemon> how can i do this from a terminal??
[01:53] <dancingdemon> http://i.imgur.com/lbG6HP1.png
[01:54] <david_> quali programmi per scaricare file torrent
[01:54] <dirty_page_joe> dancingdemon, uh... "which filezilla" gives something ?
[01:54] <dancingdemon> I'm sorry what?
[01:55] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: " that package libkdecore5 is from kubuntu-ninjas or mint? " in response to your last . I still scrambling in an attempt to find a means to find what installed that package .
[01:55] <dancingdemon> whenever I double click on it, It won't lunch
[01:55] <dancingdemon> It was fine like 20 mins ago but now It won't start
[01:55] <Minty_Brown> has anyone dealt with touchpad errors on linux?
[01:56] <dancingdemon> now it shows that : http://i.imgur.com/e8SmTfv.png
[01:56] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: It suddenly dawned on me... chances are, I have a ppa from kde.
[01:56] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: shall we look?
[01:56] <dirty_page_joe> dancingdemon, I never used that app - but you can try to find it "path" on terminal w/ "which filezilla"
[01:57] <dirty_page_joe> dancingdemon, is a good way to start troubleshooting
[01:57] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Hmm.. I don't... but I bet I did at one time.
[01:57] <seeit_> I'm interested in using apt-build to make a custom distro for my architecture, anyone have experience doing this on xenial?
[01:58] <dirty_page_joe> dancingdemon, this, considering "filezilla" is the right name for the executable
[01:58] <Minty_Brown> My Syanptics touchpad isn't showing up in xinput --list, but it is showing in /proc/bus/input/devices
[01:59] <Minty_Brown> And when I do evtest event16 (that's the event it's listed under in the proc file), it detects it
[01:59] <dancingdemon> can you please tell me the exact command?
[01:59] <dancingdemon> filezilla is the right name for the excutable
[01:59] <apb1963_> apb1963_: so... basically I have a later version of that file than is in the repos.  I don't see any option other than to downgrade it or purge it.
[01:59] <apb1963_> dammit
[02:00] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: ^^^^
[02:00] <Cherrix> Hi, I am a bit new to Ubuntu and have the following problem. Install -> HDMI out of range, nomodeset same result. no internal gpu. Gtx1080.. what do? can I add current nvidia driver into my ubuntu install usb?
[02:00] <dirty_page_joe> dancingdemon, or you can input "filezilla" on a disk find app - and it will provably come w/ lots of filezillas files from the app tree - and the nyou can go down there and do whatever hacks
[02:01] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Playing catch up .. and the plot thickens ,, the libkdecore5 package is from mint ! : http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/kubuntu-ppa_backports/trusty/main/base/libkdecore5
[02:02] <dirty_page_joe> dancingdemon, btw, youre not an infiltrated Microsoft agent trying to bring instabilty on Ubuntu community - are you? :D
[02:02] <dancingdemon> what lol/
[02:02] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: well... it's likely that it migrated over from 12.04 when I took a look at cinnamon for a minute.. .literally.  I used debootstrap to install 14.04 so it probably came from there.
[02:03] <Cherrix> Isn't there an uptodate install version that works with todays gpus? I feel like I am trying to install a medieval software
[02:03] <dirty_page_joe> its time to leave
[02:03] <dirty_page_joe> dancingdemon, go for it, wish you luck
[02:04] <dancingdemon> dude so if i want to remove it and re-install it without changing the configuration that I had
[02:04] <dancingdemon> how can that be done
[02:04] <dancingdemon> oh je left :(
[02:05] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: I like the idea to try and downgrade to what is in the repo  ' sudo apt install libkdecore5=4:4.13.3-0ubuntu0.3 ' . should do it .
[02:06] <apb1963_> ok
[02:07] <Cherrix> ..soo.. if you dont have an internal gpu, and if nomodeset doesn't fix hdmi out of range, you just install ubuntu?
[02:07] <Cherrix> cant
[02:08] <Bashing-om> Cherrix: Most depends on the hardware and if there is a driver for it . Is the OEM co-operative ?
[02:09] <apb1963_> Bashing-om:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157212/
[02:09] <Cherrix> what do you mean by OEM cooperative?
[02:09] <arulmani> hi
[02:09] <Cherrix> I believe my gtx1080 and / or monitor are causing the problem
[02:09] <seeit_> anyone here have experience with apt-build?
[02:10] <Cherrix> i found several posts by people with that problem, most fixed it by using an onboard gpu, which i dont appear to have
[02:10] <Cherrix> the others fixed it with nomodeset
[02:10] <Cherrix> i tried nomodeset twice, ended in same black hdmi out of range screen
[02:10] <apb1963_> Cherrix:OEM=Original Equipment Manufacturer ... of your hardware.  Some will talk to you...developers... some won't.
[02:10] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Ouch ! " 111 to remove and 1 not upgraded. " .. All I know to do here is bite the bullet and do it .. as it has to be done , yes ?
[02:10] <Cherrix> so i was wondering why i cant just add the right nvidia to the usb installer, as you can do with windows
[02:11] <Cherrix> Why should Nvidia talk to me about ubuntu?
[02:11] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: It's just KDE stuff.  ubuntu doesn't depend on any of it.
[02:11] <Cherrix> I tried to go somewhere to talk to ubuntu about my hdmi out of range problem
[02:11] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: And it won't remove any data in /home right?  So anything personal would be safe.  yes?
[02:12] <apb1963_> Cherrix: that's kind of strange that you don't have a gpu... what mamaboard do you have?
[02:12] <Bashing-om> Cherrix: Did mthe manufacturer provide a driver or the specs to allow us to make a driver ? There are many closed devices out there . with proprietary stuff ( copywrite laws ) we can not touch it . so what is the hardware you are addressing ?
[02:13] <Cherrix> asus hero viii. Should it have one? the motherboard has got an hdmi slot and a displayport, but i found no option to enable onboard gpu in the bios, no mention of an onboard gpu in the board description, and i didnt get an image when i plugged the monitor into the motherboard hdmi
[02:13] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: personal stuff will not be touched .. the operating system we hope gets re-built .
[02:13] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: but KDE Isn't OS.. is it?  It's just a DE
[02:14] <Cherrix> Bash: I hope you are familiar with gtx 1080
[02:14] <Cherrix> i m gonna look for a better description of the mainboard
[02:14] <apb1963_> Cherrix: Use your TAB key for name completion
[02:14] <apb1963_> Cherrix: check with #hardware about the details of your hardware
[02:15] <Bashing-om> Cherrix: To see what hardware you have run terminal command - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' - for the graphics .
[02:15] <apb1963_> Cherrix:  or do what Bashing-om said :)
[02:15] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: wellll .. look at all those libraries that are to be replaced .. system !
[02:15] <apb1963_> I figured she'd learn how to turn on the gpu from them
[02:16] <Cherrix> Where am I supposed to run that terminal command in the ubuntu install menu?
[02:16] <Bashing-om> Cherrix: gamming ? ya want a cutting edge driver .. we get that driver from our trusted PPA .
[02:16] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: yes but they're all kde libs
[02:16] <Cherrix> I really just want an image on my ubuntu start screen
[02:16] <Cherrix> with a mainstream gpu
[02:17] <apb1963_> Cherrix: yes, in a terminal.
[02:17] <Cherrix> where do i get a terminal with the usb-installer?
[02:18] <Cherrix> If I wasn't new to ubuntu I probably wouldnt be asking at all
[02:18] <Cherrix> Shouldnt my onboard gpu get listed in the windows hardware manager as well?
[02:18] <Bashing-om> Cherrix: Cherrix See: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/106780/en-us . Now what have you gor installed . and is this hybrid graphics - the result of the above will tell us .
[02:19] <apb1963_> Cherrix: no worries.  That's why the channel is here :)
[02:19] <Cherrix> @bashing-om if i could enter an installed ubuntu, i could install the right drivers myself. i just cant install ubuntu
[02:19] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: She doesn't know how to pop a window from a liveusb
[02:19] <Cherrix> and i have a gtx 1080 and a maximus hero viii board
[02:19] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: and I'm not sure without looking at it.
[02:21] <Bashing-om> Cherrix: well .. should be able to . 1) verified the .iso ; 2) verified a good copy to medium ; 3) tried the nomodeset boot option ?
[02:21] <Cherrix> http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1151/MAXIMUS_VIII_HERO/E10343_MAXIMUS_VIII_HERO_UM_WEB.pdf this is the manual of the mainboard. It says nothing about an onboard gpu
[02:21] <Cherrix> Bashing-om: Please elaborate why you believe that the hdmi out of range problem is related to a broken iso?
[02:22] <Cherrix> I tried nomodeset and it changed nothing. I might try again in a bit.
[02:23] <Bashing-om> Cherrix: I can accept that hdmi is non-functional with nomodeset ; I am confused i guess if you can boot/onstall ubuntu ???
[02:23] <Cherrix> Bash, I cannot install ubuntu, because my screen is black. How do you install it without seeing anything?
[02:25] <tom_> hi
[02:25] <reisio> Cherrix: try the minimal install image
[02:25] <reisio> tom_: hi
[02:26] <apb1963_> It does says there's an integrated graphics processor
[02:27] <Cherrix> thank you reisio, sounds promising. Let's hope ubuntu can access the network during installation?
[02:27] <Cherrix> it probably cant go via wlan, so i should connect the ethernet cable?
[02:27] <reisio> Cherrix: well, that would always simplify things, yes
[02:27] <Cherrix> oh you are right apb
[02:27] <reisio> Cherrix: you _can_ use wifi headless, but it's more work probably
[02:28] <Cherrix> so the board definitely should have an internal gpu
[02:28] <Cherrix> i m gonna try to switch hdmi to the mainboard again and reboot again
[02:28] <Cherrix> then i ll try nomode once more
[02:28] <Cherrix> and then the mini iso
[02:28] <apb1963_> Cherrix: how many daughtercards do you have in your system?
[02:28] <Cherrix> Thank you very much
[02:28] <Cherrix> daugthercards? you mean main gpus? 1
[02:29] <Bashing-om> Cherrix: Also UEFI saystem ? dual booting ? In that case you want to install in UEFI mode .
[02:29] <Cherrix> it says UEFI so i think so. I can select both a UEFI usb and just usb in the bios for boot
[02:30] <apb1963_> Cherrix: Your mamaboard has an interesting feature such that if you have a card plugged into the second slot, the first slot loses 8 bits..
[02:30] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | Cherrix
[02:30] <Cherrix> Yeah Apb... I noticed that the hard way xD cost me 40 minutes or so to get that massive gpu out of the second slot and fix it into the first slot after noticing the wrong pcie speed
[02:30] <Cherrix> that 1080 is extremely unwiedly
[02:30] <Cherrix> unwieldy
[02:31] <reisio> Cherrix: a-p-b-TAB
[02:31] <apb1963_> Cherrix: page 1-18 of your manual
[02:31] <Cherrix> apb1963_:  test
[02:31] <apb1963_> Cherrix: you passed!
[02:31] <reisio> testastic
[02:31] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Are we downgraded ??
[02:32] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: No I was waiting for you to give me the final go ahead
[02:32] <Cherrix> apb1963_:  yes i figured that pice speed feature out while putting the pc together. As I said unfortunately only after starting the pc the first time, so had to move the gpu to the other slot afterwards... which usually would be a 2 minute thing.. but it suuuuuuuuuuuucks with this gtx1080 xD
[02:33] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: I can think of no other viable option .. we do need a versioned foundation .. that version is what is in the repo !
[02:34] <Cherrix> brb trying things
[02:35] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: command given.  status...proceeding.
[02:36] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Processing triggers.
[02:36] <SpaceAce> I just upgraded ubuntu to 16.04 from an older version, and now my display just turns off and on at the login screen
[02:37] <SpaceAce> intel onboard gpu
[02:37] <Bashing-om> SpaceAce: Proprietary driver in the old release ? and now broke in the upgrade ?
[02:37] <SpaceAce> could be the reason. what's the best driver now for intel chipsets?
[02:38] <Bashing-om> SpaceAce: IF it is Intel only .. what Intel provides us in the kernel is the best there is .
[02:39] <SpaceAce> hmm
[02:39] <SpaceAce> i don't know how to fix it
[02:39] <SpaceAce> i seem to be using the right driver
[02:39] <SpaceAce> i shouldn't have upgraded. damn
[02:40] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: OK... back to installing DE?
[02:42] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: ha!  look what I just found in my history:
[02:42] <apb1963_>  1196  cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-backports-trusty.list
[02:42] <apb1963_>  1197  ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[02:42] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Yeah .. I too think that is logical .. see now what results .
[02:42] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Yeah ! /// should have done a PPA purge .. manybe can be of some good yet .
[02:44] <tyracey> World jewry is in a mad dash to shut down internet activists who have been effectively exposing jewish criminality and initiating a movement to rid ourselves of jewish tyranny.
[02:44] <tyracey> http://www.renegadetribune.com/jewrys-move-shut-down-online-anti-semitism/
[02:44] <reisio> heh
[02:44] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: does the fetch for the PPA still exist ? ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[02:45] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157293/
[02:45] <Bashing-om> SpaceAce: Athough, is the driver loaded ? ' sudo lshw -C display ' .
[02:46] <SpaceAce> Bashing-om, looks to be: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157298/
[02:47] <__panda> Is there a reason for, when I go into suspend, I have to restart my network manager ?
[02:47] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Let's check the sourcs,list .. make sure that PPA packages do not get re-installed ! ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* '
[02:48] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: is that not the exact same command as before?
[02:50] <SpaceAce> hmm maybe it's the login screen crashing
[02:50] <SpaceAce> I can't switch to terminals or anything
[02:50] <SpaceAce> just goes black, comes back for 5 seconds, then black again
[02:50] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Yes .. but I have yet to see the output from tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* that I expect to see .
[02:50] <SpaceAce> i originally had an auto login to kodi running. where can i find that?
[02:51] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: what I posted isn't what you expected to see?  What's wrong with it?
[02:51] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: well I posted the wrong thing that's what wrong with it.  derp
[02:51] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: in terminal run ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' see a great huge difference .
[02:52] <SpaceAce> ah! libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0
[02:53] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157315/  Sorry!
[02:54] <Hulio> hi guys
[02:55] <u-daniel> hola
[02:56] <apb1963_> OerHeks: before I forget... thanks for your help!
[02:57] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Commented out .. are we now good to go ? what now with ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install' ?
[02:58] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: ok... haven't done the desktop yet...  right?
[02:59] <stewartroot0> Hello
[02:59] <reisio> 'lo
[03:01] <stewartroot0> EIRMMSTROIEEOMMJNGIHRODZ0000
[03:01]  * apb1963_ waits patiently for a response
[03:02] <Mextry> Hi
[03:03] <reisio> ohai
[03:03] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: right .. try again ' sudo apt install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop ' .
[03:03] <Mextry> o.O
[03:03] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: so... DE first then general upgrade?
[03:04] <Mextry> speak portugues?
[03:04] <bazhang> !br
[03:04] <reisio> /msg alis list *ubunt*pt
[03:04] <bazhang> Mextry, ^
[03:04] <reisio> wow, real low numbers
[03:04] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: No, I think 1st is to make sure the package manager is consistent and it finds no faults at this time prior to attempting to re-install the desktop .
[03:05] <apb1963_> apb1963_: OK that's what I was trying to clarify.  Will do.
[03:06] <stryakr> Is there an issue with getting an crypto request for password on 'none
[03:06] <stryakr> when updating packages?
[03:07] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157353/
[03:10] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: why do you not want to accept the update for  python-software-properties ? That is a biggy .
[03:10] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Not that I don't... just want to make sure I do,
[03:11] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Oh we do, we do !  ..
[03:11] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: lol  k
[03:12] <apb1963_> done
[03:12] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: happy as a clam
[03:12] <dinker> Hi
[03:12] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: now desktop?
[03:13] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: so far so good .. and ' sudo apt -f install ' says no problems too ? and dpkg is happy happy ' sudo dpkg -C ' ?? then we re-install the DE .
[03:13] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Setting up python-software-properties (0.92.37.7) ...........
[03:14] <apb1963_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:14] <Bashing-om> !info python-software-propertie trusty
[03:15] <Bashing-om> !info python-software-properties trusty
[03:16] <__panda> anyone know how i can get a c++ inv
[03:17] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: 523 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:17] <apb1963_> Need to get 223 MB/230 MB of archives.
[03:17] <apb1963_> After this operation, 756 MB of additional disk space will be used.... Want to see the list or just go ahead?
[03:17] <bazhang> __panda, no invite needed, perhaps you need to register, askin #freenode for help with that
[03:18] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: go ahead ,,, in for a penny in for a pound .,.. see this through to the end .
[03:19] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Oakley dokely.  See you on the other side.  Should be awhile.
[03:19] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: All we can do at this point .. good there is not data cap !
[03:19] <reisio> __panda.invite
[03:20] <__panda> @bazhang I am registered.
[03:22] <SpaceAce> so the screen is still just switching on and off
[03:22] <SpaceAce> i've tried switching from DVI to the HDMI port
[03:22] <SpaceAce> i see nothing in the logs
[03:22] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: yeah no kidding!  Wish there were no speed cap :/
[03:22] <SpaceAce> every minute or so it goes black for 2 secs
[03:22] <nicomachus> SpaceAce: hardware issue?
[03:23] <SpaceAce> unlikely, nicomachus. i just upgraded
[03:23] <SpaceAce> ubuntu upgrade, i mean
[03:23] <SpaceAce> it's a driver issue somewhere. this is my media center
[03:23] <nicomachus> what's the graphics setup?
[03:23] <SpaceAce> intel integrated
[03:23] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: good time to take a break
[03:23] <SpaceAce> i'm reinstalling the drivers from the intel site
[03:24] <SpaceAce> using their tool
[03:24] <SpaceAce> i shouldn't have fiddled with my working setup
[03:25] <SpaceAce> but i was sick of the nag screen for upgrading
[03:25] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: reconvene in about 30 minutes?
[03:28] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Yeah .. sound good . see then what we have .. do some look'n and resetting of grub before we rebbot .
[03:32] <nicomachus> SpaceAce: is this a laptop?
[03:33] <SpaceAce> nope
[03:33] <SpaceAce> a desktop repurposed
[03:33] <SpaceAce> it's happening in terminal, lightdm login screen, everywhere
[03:33] <SpaceAce> someone suggested changing grub to put nomodeset=0
[03:33] <nicomachus> boot up a live USB and see if it happens there.
[03:34] <nicomachus> if it does, then it's probably a hardware issue.
[03:34] <SpaceAce> this just happened after i ran the upgrade script, so definitely not hardware
[03:34] <SpaceAce> but i'll check
[03:34] <nicomachus> could just be bad timing
[03:34] <furiousgreen> Hey, are utterly noob questions welcome here?
[03:34] <nicomachus> sure
[03:34] <nicomachus> those are the only ones I can answer sometimes
[03:35] <SpaceAce> same
[03:35] <Bashing-om> furiousgreen: so long as ubuntu related . sure .. only dumb question is the one not asked .
[03:36] <prettyinseattle> World jewry is in a mad dash to shut down internet activists who have been effectively exposing jewish criminality and initiating a movement to rid ourselves of jewish tyranny.
[03:36] <prettyinseattle> http://www.renegadetribune.com/jewrys-move-shut-down-online-anti-semitism/
[03:36] <nicomachus> !ops | prettyinseattle, changing usernames
[03:38] <furiousgreen> Alright, mine's in two pieces. 1) I have a USB installed with 16.04 the recommended way - through Rufus. When I insert the USB into my Windows 10 computer, and reboot, it does nothing
[03:38] <furiousgreen> I heard that's a regular issue?
[03:39] <nicomachus> furiousgreen: you'll have to press a key to get to your boot menu, as it's first booting. Usually F12. it'll briefly say.
[03:40] <furiousgreen> Mmhm. Then change the boot order to USB? I'll try that now, but I think I have  tried that in the past.
[03:40] <furiousgreen> Be right back one way or another
[03:41] <nicomachus> furiousgreen: yes
[03:50] <speeeediy> Hi all
[03:51] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: back in 15 minutes but here's something to chew on in case you get back early.  It all looks good.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157461/
[03:52] <rud0lf> hi. i have an entry in crontab that plays wave by sox's 'play' command.. when i launch teamspeak it blocks it so it can't be heard until teamspeak is closed, but play works well while entered in terminal
[03:52] <rud0lf> i have no idea what cron doesn't have that terminal has
[03:53] <glitchd> hello all
[03:54] <glitchd> im using xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu 16.04.1 is it ok to ask some questions in here related to xubuntu?
[03:55] <glitchd> not getting any response in #xubuntu
[03:58] <nicomachus> glitchd: yes
[03:59] <glitchd> nicomachus, thx
[04:02] <glitchd> i use my tv as my monitor(HDMI) i also use the tv as the speakers, i set the sound device to hdmi but whenever the screen saver kicks on, or i blank the screen(which i tend to do instead of waiting for the screensaver to turn on) the sound device reverts back to the analog output and i have to go back into the gui of the sound settings and reselect the hdmi output device. is there any way to stop it from switching whenever the
[04:02] <glitchd> screensaver turns on or i blank the screen?
[04:02] <glitchd> nicomachus, ^^
[04:03] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: :) ,, 9115 lines from the package manager ,,, and stlll counting . so far so good .
[04:05] <nicomachus> glitchd: in a terminal, type "pactl stat" to see your current default sound device
[04:06] <selig5> how do I insert a command into the file system that will cause ssh to be installed on reboot? I have a ubuntu minimal installation but the screen is so garbled that I can't do anything with it but I can edit files on the install from a live cd (Tiny Core)
[04:07] <glitchd> nicomachus, should i paste the output in here or should i pm you?
[04:07] <nicomachus> glitchd: paste at paste.ubuntu.com and link here
[04:07] <glitchd> nicomachus, ok
[04:07] <nicomachus> but also include the output of "pactl list"
[04:07] <Rarrikins> selig5: sudo apt install openssh-client
[04:07] <reisio> selig5: ctrl+alt+f2 ?
[04:07] <Noasys> repurposing old laptop into kitchen digital center. Any cool ideas? setting it up to reach internet, store recipe's, media player, etc....feels like i'm missing something?
[04:08] <Rarrikins> selig5: If you're operating on a Live CD, that won't work.
[04:08] <nicomachus> you'd have to mount the installation, chroot into it, and then install
[04:09] <selig5> Rarrikins: I can't input the command in the terminal. I need to edit a file with a live CD. The terminal is messed up.
[04:09] <nicomachus> selig5: boot into the live CD, mount the installation, chroot into it, and then install ssh
[04:09] <glitchd> nicomachus, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157633/
[04:12] <selig5> nicomachus: OK, I'll try that, thanks
[04:12] <nicomachus> glitchd: now, 'echo "set-default-sink alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.hdmi-stereo.monitor" | pacmd'
[04:12] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: You're counting, or it's counting?
[04:13] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: because it's all done.
[04:13] <glitchd> nicomachus, echo "set-default-sink alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.hdmi-stereo.monitor" | pacmd: command not found
[04:13] <glitchd> nicomachus, thats what the output was
[04:14] <glitchd> nicomachus, should it start with pactl?
[04:15] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: just ran it again.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157644/
[04:15] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Maybe it is paste.ubuntu.com that is counting .
[04:15] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: It sounded like you meant there was something missing.  Apparently there was.  See last paste.
[04:16] <nicomachus> glitchd: try it this way: 'pacmd set-default-sink "alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.hdmi-stereo.monitor"
[04:16] <apb1963_> Bashing-om:  or there wasn't.  I don't  know.  We good to move on to grub?
[04:18] <nicomachus> glitchd: sorry, 'pacmd set-default-sink "alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.hdmi-stereo" '
[04:19] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Look'm good yeah .. grub ,, for now lets leave in in MBR ; ' sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda ; sudo update-grub ' . then we check that you have authority to access the desktop .
[04:19] <fakam> hey guys i installed kubuntu over windows, and now it says no boot device @_@
[04:19] <glitchd> nicomachus, ok lol the other one just output to a ">"
[04:19] <nicomachus> fakam: you're sure you installed it and didn't just delete Windows?
[04:19] <fakam> i totally deleted windows wanted nix full time and now i have no boot and keep reinstalling but no avial
[04:20] <fakam> i did full guided install to take over windows
[04:20] <fakam> it installed, but now I get no boot device :(
[04:20] <fakam> installed it twice
[04:20] <nicomachus> what disk did you install it to?
[04:20] <fakam> sda
[04:20] <fakam> my main disk
[04:21] <glitchd> nicomachus, pacmd set-default-sink "alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.hdmi-stereo" : command not found
[04:21] <Guest72112> hi
[04:21] <nicomachus> fakam: are you sure your main disk in sda? sometimes the USB will get mounted as sda and the main disk will be sdb
[04:21] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157660/
[04:21] <fakam> how do i fix this I have no pc lol
[04:22] <fakam> it has to be because, it has 1tb
[04:22] <Phanes> hello, im getting a 404 when i do a dist upgrade from wily, and the 404's are from ppa.launchpad.net wly/main amd64 Packages and i386 packages?
[04:22] <nicomachus> Phanes: paste a full output of it to paste.ubuntu.com and link here. much easier that way.
[04:22] <nicomachus> fakam: does the install fail at any point, or does it say it's successful?
[04:23] <fakam> nope it says successful then reboots and says no boot device
[04:23] <Phanes> nicomachus, apt-get update results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157664/
[04:24] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Looks great too ., ok authority ' ls -al .Xauthority ; ls -al .ICEauthority '.
[04:24] <fakam> i'm in the kde install disk.. stuck with no os :(
[04:24] <nicomachus> Phanes: that PPA doesn't have a wily source.
[04:25] <Phanes> nicomachus, what do you mean?  can you use identifiers?
[04:25] <Rarrikins> Phanes: 15.10 is no longer supported. You should upgrade to 16.04.
[04:25] <Phanes> Rarrikins, i would love to
[04:25] <Phanes> i did an apt-get dist-upgrade just before this
[04:25] <fakam> i did guided use entire disk and now i have no boot device
[04:25] <nicomachus> Phanes: Wily is no longer supported anyway, as Rarrikins said
[04:25] <Phanes> ffs
[04:25] <nicomachus> which is why they don't have a PPA for it anymore
[04:25] <Phanes> im trying to upgrade
[04:25] <nicomachus> http://ppa.launchpad.net/nvbn-rm/ppa/ubuntu/dists/
[04:25] <nicomachus> !EOLupgrade | Phanes
[04:26] <fakam> anyone
[04:26] <nicomachus> fakam: just hold on a second. thinking.
[04:26] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157671/
[04:26] <fakam> sda3 is swap
[04:26] <Phanes> nicomachus, ok, stop helping, you're not helping.  dont pretend to answer if you're not answering, i know it's EOL that's why im moving to xenial, i did a apt-get dist upgrade, which seemed to go okay, saw i was still in wily, so ran an apt-get update and saw that, so, if you have any suggestions on moving forward instead of telling me things i already know that'd just be great
[04:27] <fakam> sda1 is 38mb  ubuntu ext4
[04:27] <fakam> sda1 is fat32
[04:27] <nicomachus> Phanes: well that's not how you upgrade to 16.04. You do it by clicking the link I sent with the !EOLupgrade command, and following the instructions.
[04:27] <fakam> sda is is 1tb ata wdc, sorry nicomachus  kinda freekin out lol
[04:28] <fakam> sda1 is efi
[04:28] <glitchd> fakam, sounds like the partitioning didnt go correctly on you hd
[04:28] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: .Xauthority ??
[04:29] <fakam> sda1 is efi?
[04:29] <fakam> sorry
[04:29] <apb1963_> Phanes: On another related distribution I had semi-similar problems.  I removed all lines from /etc/apt/sources (equivalent) file and added just the required ones for the new distribution.  Fixed me.  I don't know if it will work for you, I don't claim to be any kind of expert.
[04:29] <fakam> should the bootloader be on the efi or sda2 which is  my 1tb drive
[04:29] <Phanes> apb1963_, ill keep looking around
[04:29] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: weird... hang on
[04:29] <Phanes> apb1963_, thanks
[04:30] <glitchd> nicomachus, thx for all the help your handing out in here. much appreciated.
[04:30] <nicomachus> Phanes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades follow the instructions. you'll be up and running in no time.
[04:30] <Rarrikins> Phanes: To upgrade, use `do-release-upgrade`. It will disable things like PPAs.
[04:31] <Phanes> nicomachus, reading now thanks
[04:31] <nicomachus> Rarrikins: that won't work when he's on an EOL release.
[04:31] <Rarrikins> Oh
[04:31] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23157677/
[04:31] <nicomachus> normally it would, though. but you have to do it before the EOL data.
[04:31] <nicomachus> s/data/date
[04:31] <fakam> ....
[04:32] <pflux> whois pflux
[04:32] <nicomachus> you are
[04:32] <glitchd> fakam,  i believe the bootloader should be on the drive your installing linux to
[04:32] <fakam> i guess i will and try and put the boot loader on my sda2 which is my main drive
[04:32] <pflux> i know. :D
[04:32] <Phanes> pflux, nice sock puppet
[04:32] <Phanes> pflux, what'd you get banned for?
[04:32] <fakam> i thought it had to be on the efi
[04:33] <pflux> i didnt got banned
[04:33] <Phanes> ok
[04:33] <pflux> Im just new to irc and checking if im connected trough ssl
[04:33] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: looka all good . Can you think of a reason now why not to reboot and see what there is ?
[04:33] <fakam> ok gonna try and do the boot loader brb  :(
[04:33] <Phanes> you dont appear to be
[04:34] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: can't say I do
[04:34] <glitchd> fakam, if your drives are sda1, sda2, etc, then it needs to be installed to sda
[04:34] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: can't say I can either
[04:34] <Phanes> oh SSL i thought you meant SASL, you are using a secure connection pflux
[04:34] <fakam> i tried sda and it wont boot says i have no devices
[04:34] <Phanes> pflux, but if youre actually concerned about that, you really should be using SASL
[04:34] <apb1963_> ohhh... I get to play with ssl later when we're all done fixing me... yay
[04:34] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Me neither .. reboot .. and see .
[04:35] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: will do.  keep your fingers toes and eyes crossed.
[04:35] <glitchd> fakam, that was super quick, are you doing this on another machine?
[04:35] <fakam> i didn't do it yet
[04:35] <fakam> im on the temp kubuntu disk
[04:35] <guzzlefry> I'm using wifi for internet, which works fine until I connect an ethernet cable between my computer and file server. It looks like it's trying to route traffic though the ethernet interface now. How can I prevent that?
[04:35] <glitchd> on another machine?
[04:36] <glitchd> or the same one?
[04:36] <nicomachus> same one, i think
[04:36] <pflux> Phanes, im just trying things out.
[04:36] <Phanes> he tried it and it says he has no devices, yet he hasn't done it yet
[04:36] <Phanes> support troll!
[04:36] <glitchd> * or the one that your attempting to install linux to?
[04:36] <glitchd> im just clarifying..
[04:36] <fakam> i installed on sda but it wont boot so i will try sda2 idk i'm freeking out because i need an os lol
[04:36] <glitchd> calm down
[04:37] <nicomachus> +1
[04:37] <fakam> ok
[04:37] <glitchd> make sure your putting in command exactly how they need to be
[04:37] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: OK, I have boot menu of Xenial 16.04 and Ubuntu (no version specified)
[04:37] <Phanes> fakam, get out a notepad and write down everything you try on a line in order so that you can explain what you've tried
[04:37] <glitchd> ^^^what he said
[04:37] <Phanes> fakam, it'll save you alot of back and forth.  try to keep each attempt on one line.  you've now been introduced to the scientific journaling process and should do this in some form or another in all of your projects.
[04:38] <apb1963_> Bashing-om:  Go with Ubuntu and see what we get I guess
[04:38] <fakam> i have installed nix before and the guided "use all drive" worked but this is not lol
[04:38] <fakam> ok
[04:38] <Anders_H> join #slatestarcodex
[04:38] <Anders_H> whoops
[04:38] <Anders_H> that was meant as a command
[04:38]  * Phanes turns into an F16 and flies into the sunset
[04:38] <glitchd> fakam, did you let it partition everything itself?
[04:39] <glitchd> or you did your own thing?>
[04:39] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: No way ! .. huh ? booting as sda 1st priority .. then 16.04 is no longer in the picture . or should not be !
[04:40] <glitchd> like i said before it sounds like the drive did not get partitioned correctly and left everything as free space instead of making partitinos
[04:40] <glitchd> partitions
[04:41] <glitchd> well apparently he quit before i sent that last message
[04:41] <glitchd> nicomachus, so back to the hdmi sound issue lol
[04:42] <glitchd> nicomachus, the output of the second command you gave me waspacmd set-default-sink "alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.hdmi-stereo" : command not found
[04:42] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Well, I booted Ubuntu... (not Xenial) and we have GUI
[04:42] <glitchd> nicomachus, *the output of the second command you gave me was pacmd set-default-sink "alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.hdmi-stereo" : command not found
[04:43] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: only 1 failure... not sure if it was crash reporter or samba.. but  if it was samba then no worries.  However... it's taking its sweet time giving me a desktop.
[04:43] <fakam> okay gentlefolk, i'm doing a fresh install, I have one drive which is a 1tb drive(sda)  do you suggest I use the guided - use entire disk(which has nothing) or manual? Thanks
[04:44] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: yeah... no desktop ... just the pretty background...  my printer daemon says "No system tray"
[04:45] <guzzlefry> ah, just kidding, it was hidden in the network manager GUI :P
[04:45] <reisio> fakam: if you don't know, guided will be fine
[04:45] <fakam> and if I do guided and it successfully installs, but does not boot.. what should one do next?
[04:45] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I see "Elarun" and nothing else... but an "activities" icon in the corner (which I've yet to figure out what it's for).  No menu, no other icons.
[04:46] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: "New Activity" not activities
[04:47] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: definite progress!!!
[04:48] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: At this blank desktop . keu combo ctl+alt+t work to get a termimnal ?
[04:49] <glitchd> nicomachus, any more helpfulness for my hdmi sound?
[04:50] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: No... but a right click will let me run a command... as will logging into a VT :)
[04:50] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: or even sshing in
[04:52] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Well my knowledge of KDE is not up to this task will take a lot of time to figure out how to restore the icons ; A task for tomorrow as I am done for this session .
[04:53] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Sure... I can ask about that in KDE... but is there any reason not to try and boot 16.04 ?
[04:55] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: most of the time it's a matter of moving .kde to .kde.old and letting it regenerate the defaults... but like you say... a task for another time.  I'm just interested in seeing if 16.04 works and if I can continue with it at this point.
[04:55] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: That ability should NOT be present now from the 14.04 install . If it is there in that install .. then we purge grub ,, and start all over .
[04:55] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: hmm
[04:56] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: ok... you up for that now... or pickup tomorrow?
[04:57] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Pick it up tomorrow . Remember, we are working to have 16.04 as the boot control .
[05:33] <koaps> hello
[05:36] <safari> welcome
[05:40] <t2mkn> anyone help me speedup graphics performance of Ubuntu 16.04.1 on VirtualBox installation
[05:40] <t2mkn> m not good at VB or Ubuntu
[05:41] <t2mkn> when I drag any window on VB it seems like no graphics at all
[05:41] <t2mkn> 3D support is enabled on VB
[05:41] <t2mkn> what else i am missing
[05:43] <baizon> t2mkn: guest additions
[05:43] <t2mkn> baizon: yes installed in virtualbox with default setup
[05:43] <t2mkn> fresh one
[06:16] <alaukik> hi
[06:18] <t0rWh0r3> hi
[06:21] <t0rWh0r3> Stray_Dildo has quit :D
[06:22] <shredna> Hi everyone, trying to make a manual wired network between two computers, but when I try to set the address and netmask settings the netmask gets reset to the value 24 instead of 255.255.255.0 - any idea why?
[06:22] <shredna> Using crossover cable btw
[06:23] <kuguhk> !
[06:24] <shredna> And ubuntu 16.04
[06:24] <kuguhk> hi
[06:25] <guiverc> netmask /24 is a shorthand of 255.255.255.0 ; so you may be worrying about nothing.
[06:26] <anticensored> i need an installer disc for ubuntu
[06:26] <anticensored> i tried download and it said it will take 167 hours
[06:26] <anticensored> because my connection sucks
[06:27] <anticensored> so i need a disc but I cant get mail, here in the african jungle where i do charity work
[06:27] <anticensored> i have satellite but the tree canopy cuts it down to a few Kbps
[06:27] <ducasse> anticensored: download the mini.iso?
[06:27] <t0rWh0r3> fucking trees
[06:27] <anticensored> whats that?
[06:28] <ducasse> !mini | anticensored
[06:28] <guiverc> shredna: netmask /24 is a shorthand of 255.255.255.0 ; so you may be worrying about nothing.
[06:28] <ducasse> anticensored: it's a minimal installer, install everything over the network.
[06:28] <anticensored> ducasse: i think i heard of it once
[06:28] <shredna> guiverc: oh, thanks!
[06:29] <ayush> :help
[06:29] <anticensored> doesn't it still have to download all the stuff, just does it while installing?
[06:29] <anticensored> My connection is no better on the PC its being installed on
[06:29] <t0rWh0r3> "/24" is a "CIDR prefix"
[06:29] <ducasse> anticensored: yes, but you download only what you need.
[06:29] <anticensored> i'm over 150 miles from a faster connection
[06:29] <anticensored> i cant download hardly anything.
[06:29] <anticensored> takes forever just to load a page of google results
[06:30] <anticensored> im in the south african jungle on a shitty satellite connection
[06:30] <t0rWh0r3> anticensored, you could try "slitaz" linux it has a desktop and is only 50mb
[06:30] <t0rWh0r3> but its not debian based
[06:30] <anticensored> im here for the next year  to help teach feral niggers how to grow corn, and how to wipe their ass
[06:30] <faekjarz> Hi! i disabled iscsi (systemctl disable iscsi) and expected to be able to re-enable it with "systemctl enable iscsi", but nope. How do i re-enable a service?
[06:31] <baizon> ehh troll :/
[06:31] <faekjarz> baizon: not me (?)
[06:31] <baizon> faekjarz: no no, the anticencored guy
[06:32] <faekjarz> m)
[06:33] <t0rWh0r3> has anybody here some expirence with bumblebee installation on 14.04
[06:38] <shredna> Next problem is I can't get network connection to work (crossover cable between windows 10 and ubuntu 16.04) - when i ping the windows box "Network is unreachable" and "Destination host unreachable" on the other end. I've set ip adresses up manually.
[06:40] <t0rWh0r3> i suppos you need to setup "HOMENETWORK" in Windows but im not sure
[06:40] <ducasse> shredna: 100mbit or gigabit?
[06:44] <guiverc> shredna:  i'd enter 'ip addr; ip route' in ubuntu box; to ensure it has connection & has accepted the capacity to route traffic externally.  ps: haven't used a crossover cable between pcs in decade+
[06:45] <shredna> ducasse: the ubuntu box only supports 100mbit I think
[06:46] <shredna> t0rWh0r3: I'll try looking that up, but I somehow thought that was for filesharing? (I only need UDP connection)
[06:50] <shredna> guiverc: I tried those commands but don't know what to look for? ;-)
[06:51] <shredna> guiverc: yeah, the ubuntu box is kinda old, I thouht
[06:51] <t0rWh0r3> shredna, your network location must be set to "private" if its "public" then it will not work, you should take a look on microsoft support page
[06:53] <guiverc> shredna: with the "ip addr" - key is UP and not DOWN on interface
[06:53] <superguest> I am having a sound problem with Firefox where it causes CubebUtils to resetsthe volume to 0%
[06:53] <superguest> whats
[06:54] <superguest> this happens when watching videos on Youtube
[06:54] <guiverc> shredna: on "ip route"; that your local network 192.168.1.0/24 (or whatever you've chosen, could be just single address) is routed to the UP device in other command
[06:55] <superguest> What I need to do is to manually adjust the sound in 'System Settings->Sound->Application->CubebUtils'
[06:56] <superguest> but it will reset again as soon as I skip to different part of the video stream.
[06:56] <shredna> guiverc: ok, from ip addr, the ethernet interface seems to be UP, ip route mentions the ip of the interface so I think that should be ok?
[06:57] <UbuntuDu1e> I'm using xenial and this is the second time I figure out firefox settings have been changed to use (local proxy) without asking me or even knowing what is local proxy is running on my system? have I been hacked or what?
[06:58] <guiverc> shredna: can't help with the windoze end... been awhile since i had the displeasure (thankfully)
[06:58] <UbuntuDu1e> https://snag.gy/xwG9Ve.jpg
[07:00] <shredna> guiverc: ;-) thanks anyway
[07:00] <guiverc> shredna:  quick icmp play... I get 'dest host unreach' for a non-answer...    the "network unreachable" is seems to imply bad|no connection to me..
[07:01] <shredna> t0rWh0r3: I'm looking into how to change to private mode
[07:02] <guiverc> shredna: which end gave the "network unreachable"? err
[07:03] <shredna> guiverc: ubuntu - "Network is unreachable"
[07:03] <ZoF> Is 2017 truly the year of the Linux Desktop?
[07:04] <shredna> guiverc: windows - "Destination host unreachable"
[07:05] <ZoF> shredna: what is your issue?(I just joined)
[07:05] <t0rWh0r3> shredna, this could maybe help "http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/6815-network-location-set-private-public-windows-10-a.html?ltr=N"
[07:05] <ZoF> Can you give me the IP? ICMP traffice is prob disabled if the box is up and ping is resulting in those messages
[07:07] <shredna> ZoF: I can't get a local network connection to work (crossover cable between windows 10 and ubuntu 16.04) - when i ping the windows box "Network is unreachable" and "Destination host unreachable" on the other end. I've set ip adresses up manually. I only
[07:07] <shredna> Need to use UDP between the boxes
[07:09] <ZoF> shredna: what's your IP/netmask/gateway? Are you doing this through the ubuntu gui on the ubuntu box?
[07:10] <t0rWh0r3> you can lookup ip settings in windows with ipconfig.exe
[07:12] <shredna> ZoF: yes using the GUI, I've set the ip adresses to 192.168.1.2 and 192.168.1.3 and netmask 255.255.255.0
[07:14] <ZoF> Cool, so you're using the stackoverflow defaults :-p do both of these have a single network interface? If you're wired/wireless on one of them you might have routing table issues
[07:14] <ZoF> I would also use stackoverflow defaults fyi ^^^^ wasn't trying to be a dick
[07:15] <shredna> ZoF: no probs, I'm a beginner here ;-) but yeah, both boxes have wifi but the interfaces are disabled
[07:19] <khe> anyone managed to install diablo 2 + lod on ubuntu 16.04? seems to be no current threads on it on the forum.
[07:21] <shredna> ZoF: i.e. only the ethernet cards are enabled
[07:33] <detly> what's the boot script system using in 16.04? (upstart, sysv init, systemd, etc)?
[07:34] <baizon> detly: depends on the versionj
[07:34] <detly> baizon: version of what?
[07:35] <baizon> detly: of ubuntu
[07:35] <ducasse> detly: it's systemd
[07:35] <detly> baizon: I said 16.04 ;)
[07:35] <detly> ducasse: thanks!
[07:36] <baizon> detly: sorry didnt see that, since 15.04 its systemd, until 14.10 its upstart
[07:44] <gurkan> Hello! Im wondering if this two "how to" are both official. Because I just used the first one, but I noticed that they are not exactly the same. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/how-to-verify and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto ?
[07:45] <ducasse> gurkan: the second one is written by volunteers
[07:46] <siimin> Hi all! Any experts in networking here? Trying to ssh to a raspberry pi running ubuntu-MATE from ubuntu. Can't ping it either. I can ubuntu from the raspberry.
[07:46] <baizon> gurkan: whats the difference?
[07:47] <gurkan> ducasse: Ah okey :). Because I noticed this difference: gpg --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "8439 38DF 228D 22F7 B374 2BC0 D94A A3F0 EFE2 1092" "C598 6B4F 1257 FFA8 6632 CBA7 4618 1433 FBB7 5451" and gpg --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 0xFBB75451 0xEFE21092. But it will be the same inb the end if I understand it right? :)
[07:48] <ducasse> gurkan: you should always use the full fingerprint for keys, the short fingerprint is vulnerable to collision attacks
[07:48] <detly> siimin: how's it connected? central router that both machines are on?
[07:48] <guiverc> siimin: expert not me.. but i've done it heaps..  if you go to pi; login; can you "ssh localhost" to ensure its up & running, not stopped by firewall etc...
[07:48] <user__> hello
[07:49] <gurkan> ducasse: Alright! So the first one wich was not written by the community is the right way to go? (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/how-to-verify)
[07:49] <user__> error grub rescue windows 7
[07:49] <user__> _
[07:49] <ducasse> gurkan: if that is the one with the full fingerprints, that's what i would use
[07:49] <user__> sa
[07:50] <guiverc> user_: sorry don't understand; problem with grub; w7 won't load?
[07:51] <siimin> detly, I have 2 routers. One router with wifi enabled and another with it disabled. Internet connectet to router 1 WAN and from that router LAN to router 2 WAN. The ubuntu computer is on the wifi on router 1 and the pi is on router 2.
[07:51] <siimin> guiverc, tried that already and it's working
[07:52] <detly> siimin: if you can, try connecting them both to the one router, and then see if there's problems when they're on separate
[07:52] <detly> siimin: oh, and are you sshing in via the IP address, or by name?
[07:52] <gurkan> ducasse: Thanks alot for the help :)
[07:52] <siimin> detly, I was thinking that it could be the cause. And I use the IP-address
[07:53] <ducasse> gurkan: no problem :)
[07:53] <guiverc> siimin:  i'd ping each of the routers from either end (pc & pi) to ensure connection to each is working; and where 'break' is.
[07:53] <siimin> detly, I can ssh to it via putty from a computer that's on the same router as the pi
[07:54] <ducasse> siimin: your problem seems to be the router setup, try ##networking
[07:54] <siimin> detly, yes of course. Thanks for the tip. I can't ping router 2 but the other way it works fine.
[07:55] <siimin> ducasse, Thanks for the help :)
[07:55] <detly> siimin: okay, I'm not too good with the router level stuff, but it sounds like it's a config problem "above" the OS level, if you see what I mean
[07:56] <siimin> detly, I see, and I agree :). Thanks for the help!
[07:58] <siimin> '
[08:09] <satpal> Can i upgrade from ubuntu 14 to ubuntu 16 lts directly?
[08:09] <6A4ABP0IH> need advice: does mixing the use of "apt-get" and "apt" cause problems?
[08:10] <satpal> apt nd apt-get are differnent commands. do not use them interchangeably
[08:10] <guiverc> 6A4...:  apt is not identical to apt-get; so some options such as 'apt-get -f install' can't be done with apt
[08:12] <satpal> Can i upgrade from ubuntu 14 to ubuntu 16 lts directly?
[08:12] <6A4ABP0IH> as always do when i go debian/ubuntu, i ran apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. but then i read that apt update && apt full-upgrade are the "new" way to do it.
[08:13] <guiverc> satpal:  ubuntu 14 I'm assuming is 14.04..    http://askubuntu.com/questions/801488/how-do-i-upgrade-from-14-04-lts-to-16-04-1-lts
[08:13] <6A4ABP0IH> after that i install some packages using apt install xy... now i'm a little worried if this mixing up would cause problems
[08:13] <6A4ABP0IH> installed*
[08:13] <satpal> so can i upgrade?
[08:14] <guiverc> 6A4A...:  you can use either. switching from one to other won't muck things up.
[08:14] <leeyaa> hello
[08:15] <troggie> hi all
[08:15] <6A4ABP0IH> thanks, guiverc
[08:15] <leeyaa> after update to xenial my e1000e devices became unstable. this is from dmesg https://bpaste.net/show/0e2b174fbab4
[08:15] <leeyaa> any idea what causes it ?
[08:15] <leeyaa> and how to fix it
[08:15] <leeyaa> i worked around it by setting ethtool -K ethX gso off gro off tso off but this is a bad fix
[08:16] <troggie> please can someone help me, I have upgrade my server to the latest 4.4.0-36-generic kernel, when I reboot, mdadm gives me an error " create group not found" and 2 of my arrays arent create. How do i over come this ?
[08:17] <leeyaa> troggie: fix your mdadm config. dont relay on defaults
[08:17] <Guest2467> Hi, my touchpad has stopped working. When I type synclient -l in terminal, I get this error message:"Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"
[08:17] <troggie> what do i set my group=disk to ?
[08:18] <troggie> do i change this: CREATE owner=root group=disk mode=0660 auto=yes to CREATE owner=root group=root mode=0660 auto=yes
[08:20] <guiverc> troggie:  i'm no expert, but i'd use your settings prior to upgrade as your guide... scan what it was before (from backups if you didn't note)   & be careful with creates.
[08:20] <t0rWh0r3> Gdamn it! How could bumblebee made it into official repository? Every single entry in bumblebee.conf is wrong or missig. wtf?
[08:20] <troggie> guiverc, nothing has changed from 4.4.0-24-generic, to .4.0-36-generic
[08:21] <thomasfuston> Aloha, is there a way to turn off the app starter shortcuts? i dont like apps to start when i press <super> + <number>
[08:21] <guiverc> sorry @troggie:  i'm probably mixing conversations... gotten too busy for me to keep up.
[08:22] <troggie> guiverc, all good :) 4.4.0-24-generic boots perfectly, 4.4.0-36-generic gives me the create group not found error
[08:27] <guiverc> troggie:  i can't help; no skilled enough..   i'd just use -24 kernel until fix is found. i assume you still have it installed.
[08:27] <troggie> i do thanks guiverc , pitty this is happening for an LTS release
[08:34] <troggie> guiverc, found the issue. Needed to tidy upi my madadm.conf file and only declare one set of arrays (no duplicates) and it booted
[08:36] <Guest2467> Hi, my touchpad has stopped working. When I type synclient -l in terminal, I get this error message:"Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"
[08:37] <guiverc> troggie: GREAT NEWS ! & well done.
[08:37] <troggie> thanks man
[08:37] <troggie> now i need to fix networking side :P
[08:38] <guiverc> troggie: if you said networking issue, i've forgotten.
[08:41] <troggie> all back online
[08:41] <troggie> thanks for you help guys
[08:50] <anwar> how do i upgrade to ubuntu 16.04 lts from terminal?
[08:50] <guiverc> anwar: what are you running now?
[08:50] <anwar> 14.04
[08:50] <guiverc> anwar:  I'd suggest reading http://askubuntu.com/questions/801488/how-do-i-upgrade-from-14-04-lts-to-16-04-1-lts
[08:51] <guiverc> anwar:  which really is update your 14.04 first; then sudo do-release-upgrade...
[08:51] <anwar> ok
[09:01] <imran>  help: are all libraries in Ubuntu 16.10 beta 1 complete and shipped?
[09:03] <imran> help: are all libraries in Ubuntu 16.10 beta 1 complete and shipped?
[09:03] <MonkeyDust> !16.10 | imran
[09:04] <imran> Yeah i am running 16.10 and have issues installing Intel Driver deb while from Ubuntu software
[09:04] <imran> two dependencies are incomplete
[09:05] <imran> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23158407
[09:05] <imran> here is the output
[09:05] <MonkeyDust> imran  type   /j #ubuntu+1, ask there
[09:05] <imran> oke
[09:06] <Guest2467> Hi, my touchpad has stopped working. When I type synclient -l in terminal, I get this error message:"Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"
[09:08] <t0rWh0r3> i <3 the new network device names in 16.04. It pure fun to type "iwconfig wlxgj2kjs90420040rfl3034503g8gjdhug ..." into the terminal
[09:09] <bekks> You can change that if you want.
[09:09] <t0rWh0r3> how?
[09:10] <jk^> Hi, firts excuse for my english, i want to ask: If i use a program on windows to protect a folder by a password and encrypt its contents, manage it, change encryption algorithm, password, and just to open it i need this software... AFTER when i use ubuntu, if doesn't exist a version of this software for ubuntu, how can i open and manage that folder or folders?
[09:10] <bekks> t0rWh0r3: https://askubuntu.com/questions/767786/changing-network-interfaces-name-ubuntu-16-04
[09:10] <ducasse> jk^: you can't.
[09:11] <ducasse> jk^: you can try the windows software in wine or a vm.
[09:12] <guiverc> jk^:  i'd use the software in windohs to make an unencrypted copy; then copy to ubuntu, then encrypt there if you are so inclined (by encrypting /home folder etc)...  my 2c
[09:14] <bekks> jk^: if you are using truecrypt/veracrypt, then it might be possible - otherwise it isnt.
[09:18] <Guest2467> Hi, my touchpad has stopped working. When I type synclient -l in terminal, I get this error message:"Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"
[09:22] <OerHeks> Guest2467, i guess you havent seen this answer .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/781271/synaptics-synclient-no-longer-loads
[09:24] <Guest2467> thanks, OerHeks. I'll look that
[09:27] <SuperLag> If I've opened up a browser from an SSH session where I've exported X, will that browser remain open on the local machine when I close the X session?
[09:27] <Guest2467> OerHeks: the answer on that link is incomplete, it doesn't offer any solution
[09:28] <bekks> SuperLag: Obviously the answer is no.
[09:28] <pv2b> SuperLag: there's no mechanism to "reattach" that browser to the GUI even if it did keep running
[09:28] <bekks> When closing the X session, you are killing the browser.
[09:30] <t0rWh0r3> if you want keep process running after disconnect ssh start it with "nohup <your_process> &"
[09:30] <jk^> [11:11] <ducasse> jk^: you can try the windows software in wine or a vm.
[09:30] <jk^> you mean a virtual machine installed on ubuntu and virtualize windows into this virtual machine installed on ubuntu?
[09:30] <bekks> t0rWh0r3: Which is nonsense in terms of an X session, since there is no way to reconnect to it.
[09:32] <pv2b> I wonder if there's an analogue to screen or tmux for X. The closest I can think of is Xvnc
[09:33] <ducasse> jk^: either that, or wine.
[09:33] <bekks> freenx, or vnc.
[09:33] <bekks> pv2b: ^
[09:34] <pv2b> I didn't know about freenx. Good to know :)
[09:43] <t0rWh0r3> bekks, oh ok, sry
[09:47] <sinha> hii
[09:47] <rypervenche> jk^: Which encryption software is this?
[09:53] <jk^> rypervenche, i found several different
[09:54] <rypervenche> jk^: We're not talking about an ecryption software that you're already using in Windows?
[09:56] <jk^> no, i have to choose one of them or choose for another solution such as archives protected by password and wiht encrypted contents, but in this case i can't choose the best password protection and the best encryption altorhytm...
[09:57] <jk^> even winrar exist for ubuntu but on rarlab site i read this:  RAR 5.40 for Linux 	Command line only
[10:17] <tomreyn> jk^: file-roller, squeeze
[10:18] <tomreyn> those are graphical frontends for command line utilities.
[10:19] <tomreyn> FendarisX: there is not just one 'ubuntu software server', there are many, many ubuntu APT repository mirrors
[10:20] <tomreyn> it's very unlikely that all of them are down
[10:21] <baxx> does debian get newer software in it's repos than ubuntu?
[10:21] <baxx> i'm thinking no... but i'm asking.
[10:21] <FendarisX> tomreyn: it didnt work for no explanatory reason and it didnt work for two other people here as well
[10:21] <FendarisX> what is your explanation?
[10:21] <FendarisX> just asking to further my understanding
[10:22] <tomreyn> FendarisX: without taking a look at the output of apt-get update on your end i could only guess.
[10:23] <twizsted> baxx, https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable
[10:23] <tomreyn> you could run this command in a !terminal and make its output available via a !pastebin : sudo apt-get update
[10:24] <baxx> twizsted: there are 3 debians right...  is unstable the most commonly used?
[10:24] <tomreyn> no, stable is
[10:24] <baxx> twizsted: also idk how to answer my question with this link
[10:25] <tomreyn> but then this channel here is about ubuntu ;)
[10:25] <baxx> tomreyn: fair... i was wondering about the repos for Ubuntu vs debian
[10:25] <FendarisX> tomreyn, i changed nothing and it is working since a few minutes
[10:25] <baxx> whether the software versions were generally much different (ie debian having newer)
[10:25] <FendarisX> i dont think the problem was on my side
[10:26] <FendarisX> especially as two people had the same problem
[10:26] <twizsted> baxx, i wouldn't know when it comes to debian, i've been using ubuntu since lucid and never looked back :-)
[10:26] <FendarisX> tomreyn, bash: !pastebin: event not found
[10:26] <baxx> ok no worries twizsted , i thought that because they were close people might have a bit of exp with both in here
[10:27] <tomreyn> !pastebin | FendarisX
[10:27] <FendarisX> it says password .. pastebin command not found
[10:28] <tomreyn> right, you don't write "pastebin" on your terminal
[10:28] <tomreyn> read the above note from ubottu
[10:29] <twizsted> baxx, i guarantee many in here would but as tomreyn said this is for ubuntu only support
[10:29] <FendarisX> ah you wanted me to do something that copies the output of the command, such that i can paste it here?
[10:29] <baxx> twizsted: yes obviously i get what this channel is about
[10:30] <tomreyn> ubuntu copies a lot of packages from debian. that'S a quick process so there is not much delay.
[10:30] <tomreyn> FendarisX: yes, that's what i suggested
[10:30] <FendarisX> !pastebin | sudo apt-get update
[10:30] <tomreyn> FendarisX: but if it's no longer an issue now,. there is probably no use in doing so.
[10:31] <FendarisX> i m mostly asking to gain at least a somewhat limited understanding of ubuntu to escape my nolinuxknowledgeprison ^^
[10:31] <FendarisX> is there some starter tutorial to follow to get a look around the commands?
[10:31] <bazhang> !manual
[10:32] <bazhang> that one FendarisX
[10:32] <HiDeHo> Hi all
[10:32] <tomreyn> !terminal | FendarisX
[10:32] <FendarisX> nice thx :)
[10:32] <bazhang> !rute | FendarisX and this
[10:32] <HiDeHo> wondering if its worth upgrading from mint 14.04 to the new lts version 16.06.
[10:32] <bazhang> HiDeHo, yes it is
[10:32] <baxx> HiDeHo: i was gonna upgrade yesterday actually
[10:33] <baxx> but i thought i should probably clone my drive first
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> HiDeHo  i's mint 18
[10:33] <FendarisX> I also read that I am not supposed to do what I just did: I went here http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/367.44/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-367.44.run&lang=us&type=GeForce downloaded the driver, and double clicked it, not it seems to be installing. Is that not the way to do it?
[10:33] <bazhang> HiDeHo, and its ubuntu 16.04
[10:33] <baxx> do many people have breakage upgrading from 14.04 -> 16.04 ?
[10:33] <FendarisX> the text didnt have an explanation and didnt offer an alternative. just said not to do it that way
[10:33] <baxx> or is it usually pretty straight forward
[10:33] <HiDeHo> bazhang: yea it is
[10:34] <bazhang> not 16.06 HiDeHo `
[10:34] <HiDeHo> MonkeyDust: why are you mentioning other os in here this is ubuntu not Mint support
[10:34] <bazhang> never is
[10:34] <HiDeHo> bazhang: yes you are correct
[10:36] <tomreyn> !nvidia | FendarisX
[10:37] <tomreyn> FendarisX: and yes, you should not just download software and drivers from anywhere on the internet. use your package manager instead.
[10:41] <FendarisX> tomreyn: oook... so that text says i have to edit some obscure xorg.conf file in order to be able to change my resolution to anything else than what it is? that sounds really strange
[10:42] <FendarisX> the display window doesnt allow me to change it ot anything
[10:42] <FendarisX> it shows a big red BUILT IN DISPLAY which probably is supposed to mean something to me
[10:43] <tomreyn> FendarisX: sorry, use this guide instead (which the previous one links to): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:44] <FendarisX> i think the driver is currently installing in that other window, so maybe i better wait for the result now
[10:44] <FendarisX> ah it got an error: There was a problem opening the file “/home/xyz/Downloads/NV…inux-x86_64-367.44(1).run”.
[10:44] <FendarisX> The file you opened has some invalid characters. If you continue editing this file you could corrupt this document.
[10:45] <tomreyn> don't use this method of installing nvidia drivers
[10:45] <FendarisX> oki
[10:46] <Guest2467> Hi, my touchpad has stopped working. When I type synclient -l in terminal, I get this error message:"Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"
[10:50] <FendarisX> Tom? the method to install the nvidia drivers you linked doesnt work in any of the 2 ways i tried
[10:50] <FendarisX> maybe i have the drivers installed already and there is some other reason why i cant change the resolution?
[10:50] <FendarisX> Ubuntu is not telling me that there are additional drivers in the main screen, and in the software and updates it shows nothing about gpu or nvidia
[10:51] <FendarisX> only one unknown : unknown
[10:51] <FendarisX> ah i can try the terminal way
[10:53] <FendarisX> Unable to locate package nvidia-367.44
[10:53] <FendarisX> E: Unable to locate package nvidia-367
[10:54] <FendarisX> sudo ubuntu-drivers devices --> driver   : intel-microcode - distro non-free, nothing about nvidia
[10:57] <FendarisX> gksu nvidia-settings
[10:57] <FendarisX>  --> (gksu:5095): GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_value_free: assertion 'value != NULL' failed
[10:58] <FendarisX> $ nvidia-settings -q NvidiaDriverVersion
[10:58] <FendarisX>  --> ERROR: Error resolving target specification '' (No targets match target
[10:58] <FendarisX>        specification), specified in query 'NvidiaDriverVersion'.
[10:58] <Guest2467> Hi, my touchpad has stopped working. When I type synclient -l in terminal, I get this error message:"Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"
[10:58] <OerHeks> Guest2467, so why you keep trying the same command?
[10:59] <Guest2467> I don't know any other commands, OerHeks
[10:59] <OerHeks> maybe time to tell what laptop / hardware / ubuntu version?
[10:59] <Guest2467> is there a command for it, OerHeks?
[11:01] <FendarisX> finally this seems to do something useful http://www.howtogeek.com/242045/how-to-get-the-latest-nvidia-amd-or-intel-graphics-drivers-on-ubuntu/
[11:01] <OerHeks> cat /etc/issue and look at the laptop?
[11:03] <guiverc> guest2467:  brand of laptop you should be able to read on it.. but "lspci" will show hardware recognized by kernel; and you'll hopefully be able to pick the touchpad from it.
[11:03] <Guest2467> ok guiverc
[11:03] <OerHeks> laptop specs could give a hint with simular problems.
[11:04] <munja> TIL /etc/issue contains the OS version
[11:05] <Guest2467> OerHeks: , guiverc. lspci output: https://gist.github.com/61225f22feb86fbf57da9258440d0a72, and laptop model is HCL
[11:06] <munja> HCL is just the company, it would be helpful to be more specific
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> Guest2467  pastebin the output of    sudo dmidecode --type 1
[11:10] <Guest2467> MonkeyDust: sudo: dmidecode: command not found
[11:10] <guiverc> thanks @MonkeyDust... that's the command I was trying to recall.
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> Guest2467  install it first
[11:11] <Guest2467> ok, MonkeyDust
[11:11] <Guest2467> MonkeyDust: https://gist.github.com/ee19c5efac38c22e836cee16186b7059
[11:12] <guiverc> @Guest2467 .. very short file; my own laptop (lenovo) gives 657 lines
[11:12] <OerHeks> SKU Number: Not Specified .. wait you have been here before, this is a non-official demo type hcl china laptop?
[11:13] <Guest2467> it's not a chinese laptop, OerHeks.
[11:13] <Guest2467> guiverc: I guess I don't have much hardware
[11:14] <guiverc> guest2467:  including no cpu, no ram, not much of anything on that output.
[11:14] <OerHeks> or india, hongkong, you know what i try to say.
[11:15] <guiverc> India.
[11:17] <Guest2467> so what do I do, to get the touchpad working again?
[11:17] <blackbird1> Hi, xenial live cd doesn't boot. Why ? (boot sequence: dvd, floppy, hard, usb)
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> blackbird1  what happens when you try
[11:18] <blackbird1> nothing MonkeyDust, Il loads windows form hard disk
[11:18] <blackbird1> it*
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> blackbird1  so the cd/dvd is not found? sure it created correctly?
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> it's*
[11:22] <blackbird1> MonkeyDust, I burned the ISO file with barsero.
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> blackbird1  no, you need unetbootin or so
[11:22] <guiverc> Guest2467:  have you tried  "Go to System Settings(search from dash) > Mouse & Touchpad
[11:22] <guiverc> Enable Two Finger Scrolling and Natural Scrolling (or as you wish your configuration to be)"
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> blackbird1  or disk creator
[11:23] <Guest2467> yes, I have already tried that, guiverc
[11:23] <Guest2467> I"m using kde and when I go into system settings>input devices>touchpad, it says synaptic driver not found
[11:23] <guiverc> sorry @guest2467.... have you provided "xinput" output
[11:24] <blackbird1> I'm going to try now MonkeyDust thanks
[11:24] <tomreyn> blackbird1: brasero is fine if you wrote the contents of that iso image file to the cd-rom, not just the iso file as it is.
[11:24] <Guest2467> No, I haven't provided xinput, how do I do that? guiverc
[11:24] <tomreyn> blackbird1: do you have a running / fully booted computer which you can put the cd-rom into and check the files present on it?
[11:25] <blackbird1> yes tomreyn
[11:25] <guiverc> (sorry we need to know the hardware... dmidecode decodes BIOS & provides clues; you're BIOS doesn't follow x86 standards as it's not providing answers... can occur with non-standard devices that aren't produced in big numbers, by small manufacturers)
[11:26] <tomreyn> blackbird1: so i suggest you do this, and check whether the cd-rom contains multiple files and directories or just a single file with an .iso file extension
[11:26] <guiverc> it's a command (xinput)
[11:26] <Guest2467> guiverc: so is there nothing I can do to get the touchpad functionality back?
[11:26] <FendarisX> I ve got a complete beginner question.... :D halp! I should have installed teamspeak 3 now.. but where is it? I cant find the sh file
[11:26] <guiverc> didn't say that.... point was knowing your hardware would make this quicker!
[11:27] <OerHeks> days back i asked you about a FN key for mouse/touchpad enable disable, that was not the solution either
[11:27] <guiverc> xinput on my lenovo says keyboard; point & detects thinkpad extra buttons.
[11:27] <Guest2467> guiverc: xinput's output:https://gist.github.com/4ffbabd2ab67eb642d0cbb552f981d16
[11:27] <OerHeks> and you say back, did it ever work?
[11:27] <FendarisX> i found it!
[11:27] <Guest2467> OerHeks: no it is not disabled by fn key
[11:29] <FendarisX> How do I create a shortcut for the teamspeak 3 file_
[11:29] <guiverc> guest2467:  thanks; it has not detected special features of your device..
[11:29] <blackbird1> tomreyn, now the dvd doesn't mount !
[11:31] <tomreyn> blackbird1: hmm i guess it's probably broken then? if you have a choice between booting from dvd or usb attached storage media, choose the latter
[11:32] <blackbird1> tomreyn, I think the problem is from ubuntu, because I insert 3 DVD's, all not mounted
[11:32] <guiverc> re: guest2467... would running LSHW (list hardware) be likely to provide useful info about the hardware....  general question; its unlikely not installed on your machine Guest2467; hence general question to everyone first... if lshw is already installed; please run.
[11:33] <blackbird1> I'll try tou mount manually
[11:33] <FendarisX> tomreyn: As you are back, just for info. none of the methods on the linked page to install the drivers worked. Found a different one somewhere else finally :)
[11:33] <Guest2467> yes lshw gives a long list of output, guiverc
[11:34] <guiverc> can i see link please (assuming you've already provided) Guest2467.
[11:34] <tomreyn> FendarisX: if the "additional drivers" application did not list your nvidia hardware then it is probably not supported.
[11:35] <FendarisX> it is and i installed it in a differnt way tomreyn
[11:35] <FendarisX> i mean it is supported by nvidia and works which is good
[11:35] <Guest2467> https://gist.github.com/65c948e8307566d7d73d73c97d23eeae, guiverc
[11:35] <tomreyn> FendarisX: okay, glad you found a solution which works for you.
[11:35] <guiverc> thanks @Guest2467
[11:35] <FendarisX> http://www.howtogeek.com/242045/how-to-get-the-latest-nvidia-amd-or-intel-graphics-drivers-on-ubuntu/ this way worked
[11:36] <FendarisX> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install nvidia-367
[11:36] <FendarisX> and after i did that, now the drivers are shown in the additional drivers
[11:36] <FendarisX> and i switched it up to 370
[11:36] <tomreyn> FendarisX: PPAs are not supported
[11:36] <FendarisX> what does that mean_
[11:37] <FendarisX> i mean if a gtx1080 is "not supported" what is the support worth? that s a mainstream gpu
[11:38] <tomreyn> FendarisX: that you're on your own when you use them, at least when it comes to this channel.
[11:38] <guiverc> guest2467:  device looks like a x86_64 (motion computing) j3400 tablet behind me..  have turned it on to compare & see if it provides any clues...
[11:39] <FendarisX> tomreyn: if the alternative is to not have a gpu, then you are on your own from the start ;)
[11:39] <Guest2467> ok, guiverc
[11:39] <FendarisX> are desktop shortcuts supported by chance? i tried some different approaches, but they werent compatible with 16.04 as far as i understood it. CreateLauncher etc
[11:40] <FendarisX> I installed teamspeak 3 and am trying to figure out how to run it
[11:40] <bekks> FendarisX: The GTX1080 is one of the latest highend GPU, not a "mainstream" one - and there arent drivers in the official ubuntu repos which support it. Thats why you choose to use a PPA, but that leaves you on your own when it comes to issues after kernel updates affecting the driver, etc.
[11:41] <FendarisX> no alternative, bekks.
[11:41] <FendarisX> not gonna throw the gpu into the trash :D and i want to get away from windows
[11:43] <bekks> FendarisX: No one said you need to throw away your hardware. I was just making clear what you can expect in here, when it comes to problems with your (yet) unsupported hardware.
[11:44] <FendarisX> do i have to expect ubuntu to die any moment from automatically installed kernel updates or anything like that?
[11:44] <bekks> FendarisX: Did anyone say something like that?
[11:44] <FendarisX> you said issues after kernel updates.
[11:45] <bekks> FendarisX: When switching kernels, your driver needs to be built for the new kernel as well - and that might impose issues.
[11:45] <guiverc> FendarisX:  you said you followed instructions from howtogeek; go to the page & look for others who also followed instructions; maybe they've found answers (ie. support yourselves until nvidia get to providing support via existing modules)
[11:45] <FendarisX> but that only happens if i manually install a new version of ubuntu i guess
[11:45] <blinkblink> Hi. Please I am using Ubuntu Mate, when I do Ctrl+Alt+F1 and try to login from there it is always Login Incorrect
[11:45] <bekks> FendarisX: No. That happens upon every kernel update.
[11:45] <FendarisX> Everythin is working with regards to the gpu guiverc. People are just warning me about support issues with PPA
[11:46] <bekks> FendarisX: Because you already installed the driver manually, from a PPA.
[11:46] <guiverc> ok - my mistake sorry @FendarisX
[11:46] <blinkblink> I went to Recovery Mode > Root Shell and tried to mount the missing shell "mount -o remount,rw /" and it allows me to set the password, however when I reboot it is still not working
[11:46] <FendarisX> My current goals are to figure out how to access the home folder, use sh to run teamspeak, and figure out why linux refuses to access my windows NTFS partitions.. ubuntu says windows is hybernating... probably need to boot windows and disable hybernate somewhere in the options
[11:46] <bekks> FendarisX: Correct, people are warning you about support issues with a PPA. But it is still up to you wether to use it or not.
[11:47] <FendarisX> bekks i dont understand you... you say it s up to me? what do you mean? it s the only way to use the gpu that worked
[11:47] <bekks> FendarisX: you need to disable hibernation in windows and you need to disable fastboot in windows, then restart windows, and shut it down cleanly.
[11:47] <FendarisX> if the alternative is to not have a working system, then it s up to me to say dont use ubuntu, not dont use ppa
[11:47] <bekks> FendarisX: It is your computer - it is your choice. Pretty easy.
[11:47] <ouroumov> blinkblink, sounds like a keyboard layout issue
[11:47] <FendarisX> Can i change partition settings while ubuntu is running?
[11:47] <FendarisX> without rebooting?
[11:48] <bekks> FendarisX: No.
[11:48] <FendarisX> aw... :D
[11:49] <satysin> hi
[11:49] <blinkblink> ouroumov: i have tried this solution but nothing worked http://askubuntu.com/questions/413404/ctrlaltf1-incorrect-login
[11:49] <OerHeks> ntfs .. warning hybernating .. that shows also a warning that the ntfs might be dirty, use ntfsfix /dev/sdXY
[11:49] <satysin> i am on 16.04.1 and want to adjust mouse sensitivity but the option in settings does nothing
[11:49] <FendarisX> yeah.. teamspeak started. At least as nothing is working most of the time, every step feels like an achivement xD
[11:49] <bekks> OerHeks: it means that windows wasnt shut down but hibernated only.
[11:50] <OerHeks> bekks, that could be, but the complete warning gives the not-clean message too..
[11:50] <ouroumov> blinkblink, try typing your password at the "login" prompt, so you can check keys you press actually give you the correct characters.
[11:51] <bekks> OerHeks: Because using hibernation the filesystem intentionally is considered being non-clean, for avoiding loss of data.
[11:51] <ouroumov> blinkblink: also see https://askubuntu.com/questions/155424/changing-tty-keyboard-layout-on-a-server
[11:51] <bekks> OerHeks: Thats why you need to start windows, disable hibernation, disable fastboot, restart windows, shutdown windows.
[11:52] <OerHeks> bekks, ah you are correct
[11:53] <Poirotti> hello. why does amixer sget Master return: "amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Master',0"? same with other amixer commands. does pulseaudio overrun amixer somehow?
[11:53] <guiverc> @Guest2467: comparing output with my j3400. your machine provides far less output; does not follow x86 BIOS standards very well; but still looking.
[11:54] <blinkblink_> ouroumov: still the same
[11:54] <Guest2467> thanks, guiverc
[11:55] <mbwe> i am looking for someone who speaks turkisch
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> !tr
[11:57] <guiverc> @Guest2467:  has someone asked you to list kernel modules (ie. drivers) for your machine; ie. lsmod , and you provided output via link?
[11:57] <FendarisX> ...umm... I installed ubuntu now. things are working... is it possible to run my full ubuntu installation in a virtual mashine in windows?
[11:58] <bekks> FendarisX: With a lot of pain, yes.
[11:58] <FendarisX> I know I can run ubuntu in a windows virtual machine.. but can I run this full installation here in windows?
[11:58] <FendarisX> so you say it s a somewhat stupid idea and if i want a virtual machine instead, i should follow the virtual machine ubuntu installation guides? ^^
[11:58] <bekks> FendarisX: And wehen running it as a vm, you cant use your "mainstream GPU" you just installed drivers for.
[11:58] <bekks> FendarisX: Correct.
[11:58] <Guest2467> guiverc: I don't think so, but I'm not sure, I've been pasting a lot of output on gist-pasteee, so ii'm not sure
[11:58] <FendarisX> oh does that ppa workaround not work in a virtual machine ubuntu?
[11:59] <guiverc> Guest2467:  reason for question is to compare with my own..  can you run & save it; past me a link please.  (I know you've pasted at least four I've looked at)
[11:59] <mbwe> thanks MonkeyDust
[12:00] <bekks> FendarisX: Correct. Because in a VM. you see virtualized hardware, not your physical hardware. Thats why it is called Virtualization and not Physicalization.
[12:00] <guiverc> ps: it probably needs sudo lsmod
[12:01] <tomreyn> FendarisX: accelerated graphics in a VM are difficult to get to work properly in general.
[12:01] <bekks> FendarisX: Please keep it in this channel not in a unasked and unwanted query.
[12:01] <Guest2467> guiverc: https://gist.github.com/02e4b37617bd2df9a01f137499c152fe
[12:01] <guiverc> thank you @Guest2467
[12:02] <FendarisX> wasnt a question, just background information if you are curious. no need to read
[12:02] <bekks> FendarisX: So no need to share them with me. :)
[12:02] <FendarisX> tomreyn: I believe I had that problem with docker, too
[12:04] <FendarisX> noooooooooo... there is no cudatoolkit version for 16.04 yet only 15.04?
[12:05] <FendarisX> hoping that works anyway
[12:05] <bekks> PPA ...
[12:05] <bekks> ... no official support, etc.
[12:06] <FendarisX> Hmmm.. I am trying to understand that. I am looking at a webpage, which does not offer a download for 16.04. But I can go read a guide on PPA to figure out if it is available via that?
[12:06] <bekks> FendarisX: You can browse that PPA, to see its contents.
[12:07] <FendarisX> so that means in ubuntu, people can create personal package archives, in which they can put stuff that they got to work... then I can link it from my ubuntu and access the files? So I would have to search for a ppa containing a cudatoolkit for 16.04 for example?
[12:07] <ouroumov> blinkblink_, can you login through ssh?
[12:08] <bekks> FendarisX: You are already using a PPA - you can browse that particular PPA as well.
[12:08] <bekks> !ppa | FendarisX
[12:09] <FendarisX> I am sorry, I am really uneducated with regards to linux. xD Gonna try to find a way to find out which ppa I have linked
[12:09] <FendarisX> !addppa
[12:09] <blinkblink_> ouroumov: i have not tried yet
[12:09] <bekks> FendarisX: It is named in the link you followed for installing the driver for your GPU.
[12:09] <FendarisX> ah true, thanks
[12:09] <FendarisX> ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[12:12] <tomreyn> correct
[12:12] <Guest2467> guiverc: I need to go, thanks for your help
[12:12] <bekks> FendarisX: And these are the contents: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[12:12] <guiverc> sorry couldn't provide answers... my own contains intel chipsets; yours has nvidia.
[12:14] <FendarisX> interesting. Installed synaptic and now I think I have libcud1-370 installed. cool
[12:14] <guiverc> @guest2467:  i'm sort of going thru your chipsets & crossing them off as related to other hardware... trying to find correct one isn't 'quick' as just rt73, mcp79 & short names...
[12:15] <FendarisX> Ah, thx Bekks. Figured that out on my own
[12:16] <FendarisX> currently trying to figure out if there is a relation between nvidia cuda 7.5 and libcudl-370
[12:16] <FendarisX> google is a bit inconclusive
[12:17] <FendarisX> dpkg -l | grep ii | grep -i cuda this doesnt seem to list the right things, so it s probablz not cuda 7.5
[12:17] <FendarisX> which would mean that cuda is not in the ppa, if I understand it correctlz
[12:17] <FendarisX> y
[12:17] <FendarisX> could just try to install the 15.04 version on 16.04 and see what error message comes up
[12:18] <FendarisX> nvm :) found posts describing it :) gonna try
[12:20] <blinkblink_> ouroumov: yes i can
[12:22] <ouroumov> blinkblink_, have you tried to run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (from the tty)?
[12:23] <guiverc> @Guest2467:  realize you're probably gone; but your name still shows; so maybe you've got this recorded to view later... an idea; boot a non-ubuntu live distro; or older ubuntu (where touchpad worked) & list-modules (lsmod)....   compare this your current "lsmod" output, and the missing entry will be your answer anyway.  i suspect you've been told this anyway; but I don't see the chipset tin your provided listings that con
[12:23] <guiverc> tain the rosetta-stone (key) to what's missing.... (i've had too little experience with nvidia motherboards too)
[12:25] <tomreyn> FendarisX: nvidia-cuda-toolkit version 7.5.18-0ubuntu1 is available from the 'multiverse' APT component of the Ubuntu 16.04 APT repository
[12:26] <FendarisX> found that 10 seconds ago
[12:26] <FendarisX> "Seems CUDA 7.5.18 it is available in the Xenial multiverse repositories now: `apt-get install nvidia-cuda-toolkit"
[12:26] <FendarisX> now i tried putting that into my terminal
[12:26] <FendarisX> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[12:26] <FendarisX> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[12:27] <FendarisX> gonna see if i have to install that repository somehow
[12:28] <FendarisX> this is so much more exciting than a windows installation
[12:28] <FendarisX> on the other hand I m at it since 11 hours or so xD
[12:28] <blinkblink_> ouroumov: i can login now! not sure how it works but it does. thanks anyway
[12:28] <FendarisX> nice to hear blinkblink
[12:29] <tomreyn> FendarisX: you probably need to activate the multiverse component to be able to install this software form this repository, AKA community contributed / unmaintained packages
[12:29] <i5um41ru> https://i.imgsafe.org/3fc20460a4.png please help, nothing appeared after pressing the super key..
[12:29] <tomreyn> !multiverse | FendarisX
[12:30] <FendarisX> "That's true. With apt-get installation, cuda files locate in `/usr/bin`, `/usr/lib`, and I can only specify CUDA_PATH as `/usr` and this cause problems when compiling CUDA samples from the run file." *cough, let s see
[12:30] <FendarisX> thx tomreyn :)
[12:31] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[12:31] <tomreyn> FendarisX: 11 hours are a minimal investment to learning the basic concepts of an operating system you have not worked with much before, if at all. think about how long it took you on your previous OS to actually get to understand how things work.
[12:31] <munja> Hi BluesKaj
[12:32] <BluesKaj> hi munja
[12:32] <FendarisX> would also probably have been 30 minutes with a less specific pc and goal
[12:32] <FendarisX> this ****** enthusiast system xD
[12:33] <FendarisX> the windows installation wasnt especially smooth before either with this pc. Had to surrender and go up to windows 10.
[12:33] <FendarisX> and i still havent fixed the ram overclocking
[12:34] <pratyush> kaun hai bhai??
[12:34] <root_____> Hi
[12:34] <pratyush> hii
[12:34] <tomreyn> !in | pratyush
[12:34] <i5um41ru> Hi, no application in dash menu https://i.imgsafe.org/3fc20460a4.png anyone can help?
[12:34] <KuroLelouch> How are u
[12:35] <pratyush> f9
[12:35] <tomreyn> !rootirc | KuroLelouch
[12:35] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[12:35] <guiverc> night all ... been fun.
[12:35]  * tomreyn first ;)
[12:35] <FendarisX> ah ok, the multiverse seems to be enabled by standard, at least it is checked and i dont think i did it
[12:35] <FendarisX> so that s not the problem
[12:35] <FendarisX> but nice to know where and what it is :)
[12:36] <hishomat> im about to do an apt-upgrade, can i backup the deb files first for the packages im about to upgrade? where are they kept?
[12:36] <tomreyn> FendarisX: then you should already be able to install the package using your preferred package manager
[12:37] <OerHeks> hishomat, /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:37] <FendarisX> oh sudo apt-get update doesnt work either, same error
[12:37] <FendarisX> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:37] <FendarisX> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:38] <OerHeks> is another process using it? ( hint: synaptic)
[12:38] <FendarisX> ah not exactly the same error, before was open 13: permission denied
[12:38] <tomreyn> ...when you were not running it through sudo
[12:39] <FendarisX> *closes synaptic. works
[12:39] <OerHeks> i think we give answers too easy, FendarisX
[12:39] <FendarisX> well, to the real problem we have not even an idea yet xD
[12:40] <FendarisX> but it is also not supported, so i am trying every idea i can find on boards
[12:40] <FendarisX> the update didnt lead to any improvement with regards to that
[12:41] <bekks> Improvement on what exactly?
[12:41] <FendarisX> just figured out what you meant tomrezn. seems to work, thx
[12:42] <FendarisX> bekks: It was just my lack of understand that I have to put sudo in front of apt-get otherwise I apparently get that lock-error message
[12:43] <FendarisX> `apt-get install nvidia-cuda-toolkit` isntead of sumo apt-get install nvidia-cuda-toolkit
[12:43] <FendarisX> it s installing now
[12:45] <BluesKaj> sumo? or is that a typo?
[12:45] <FendarisX> was a typo. There is a nice open source traffic simulator called sumo though
[12:46] <kakras> hello guys, i'm buy a raspberry
[12:56] <FendarisX> Question: When I do this export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=`pwd`:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[12:56] <FendarisX> , there is no error message.... does that mean it worked? How do I find out what LD Library path is?
[12:57] <FendarisX> ah nvm
[12:57] <FendarisX> xD
[12:58] <bipul> We can't create more then one VG(Volume Group) inside same PV(Physical Volume) Right?
[13:10] <Obadiah1> why do videos keep repeating in midori
[13:10] <Obadiah1> on youtube
[13:12] <FendarisX> hmmm.... how do I get to /usr/local with the "files" program?
[13:13] <FendarisX> i got there with the terminal, but I want to paste two files from the clipboard in a folder
[13:16] <FendarisX> aha... you have to do sudo nautilus... why didnt i guess that right away
[13:17] <sony_> hello, I would like to change the password for a shorter using the GUI users . With current gnome 16.04 . command line it works but not with the GUI , though I change the etc / pam.d/common-password
[13:23] <wbx> hi
[13:23] <zhanghe> 百度
[13:45] <triti> ciaooooooooooooooooo
[13:49] <coasty2> hello, I have a question
[13:50] <coasty2> how do I modify the icons in the top right (of the system bar) specifically
[13:50] <coasty2> ?
[13:50] <coasty2> like, the volume icon, wifi status icon, battery icon, notification icon and the shutdown icon
[13:52] <ubuntu870> WHAT SHOULD i UPGRADE TO AFTER i GET FAMILULAR WITH UBUNTU 14.04
[13:53] <coasty2> ubuntu870, you should upgrade to lowercase
[13:53] <ubuntu870> LOL
[13:53] <ubuntu870> but seriusly though
[13:54] <ubuntu870> coasty
[13:55] <coasty2> ubuntu870, I don't know man, why do you need to change the OS at all?
[13:55] <squig> so the installer for 12.04 server appears to be broken
[13:56] <ubuntu870> coasty, to broaden my knowledge
[13:56] <nedstark> there is no fix coming either
[13:57] <ubuntu870> all, does any one know about the toughbook CF-29
[13:57] <ubuntu870> as far as what works on it and what does not work on it
[13:58] <ubuntu870> it needs a new OS
[13:58] <nedstark> 12.04 maintenance updates end early 2017
[13:59] <PCatinean> Hi guys, I have a package called autopostgresqlbackup that adds backups/dumps to a folder on the server. And I want to also sync that folder with a one on a backup server via ftp
[13:59] <PCatinean> How can I transfer them, daily to the backup server. With a cron I assume?
[13:59] <ubuntu870> ned stark what OS are you refferring to
[14:00] <nedstark> ubuntu 12.04
[14:01] <ubuntu870> nedstark so is that what should work on the toughbook CF29
[14:01] <ubuntu870> and what about puppy
[14:02] <nedstark> ubuntu870, you should be able to run lubuntu
[14:02] <nedstark> lubuntu 16.04
[14:04] <ubuntu870> ned stark but it was built for windows xp, isnt the lubuntu 16.04 alittle new for it.
[14:05] <nedstark> ubuntu870, it should be fine
[14:05] <nedstark> the lxde desktop is lightweight
[14:06] <redhot> Hi there! How easy its to create a deb package for ubuntu 14.04?
[14:06] <redhot> Any guides are welcome
[14:07] <ubuntu870> nedstark, it only has like 512 ram
[14:08] <ubuntu870> ned stark, please visit ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/computer/toughbook29/toughbook-29_specsheet.pdf for more details. mine is non touch screen
[14:09] <redhot> ubuntu870: only?!
[14:09] <redhot> "640K ought to be enough for anybody"
[14:09] <SchrodingersScat> !checkinstall
[14:09] <SchrodingersScat> redhot: ^
[14:10] <redhot> Thank you, Mr. SchrodingersScat>
[14:10] <redhot> Thank you, Mr. SchrodingersScat
[14:10] <ubuntu870> red hot , yes
[14:10] <nedstark> ubuntu870, you can get by with 512mb for running desktop apps and low intensity browsing, but you need 1gb to run firefox comfortably on sites with lots of multimedia or flash
[14:10] <SchrodingersScat> redhot: yep, good luck
[14:11] <redhot> Thanks much
[14:11] <nedstark> lubuntu works with pentium 4's so a dual core is fine
[14:11] <RickyB98> can someone suggest a util to monitor bandwidth usage per port?
[14:11] <redhot> iftop ?
[14:11] <ubuntu870> red hot. please visit ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/computer/toughbook29/toughbook-29_specsheet.pdf
[14:11] <RickyB98> yeah i'm using that already
[14:11] <RickyB98> but how do you see it per port?
[14:12] <SchrodingersScat> afaik you run one instance of iftop per port, but I should check the manual on that
[14:12] <nedstark> lubuntu runs fine on old pc's, but browsers are resource hogs when you go to the typical site with lots of scripting and media
[14:12] <nedstark> chrome and chromium typically crash on old pc's
[14:12] <SchrodingersScat> unclear
[14:12] <RickyB98> SchrodingersScat: 1. nice nick, love that experiment; 2. really? that would not solve my problem, coz i'm trying to get which traffic is being to heavy
[14:13] <ubuntu870> ned stark
[14:13] <ubuntu870> nedstark, what can I do on it then
[14:14] <nedstark> ubuntu870, run any of the 40,000 apps in the repos, browse with javascript and flash disabled
[14:14] <redhot> lol ubuntu870, thanks, I don't want to downgrade)
[14:14] <nedstark> flash may actually run in low resolution
[14:15] <ubuntu870> can I atleast use a weak browser that uses basic html
[14:15] <ubuntu870> nedstark
[14:15] <SchrodingersScat> RickyB98: hmm, and passing multiple -i flags seems to only choose the last one, so probably not the tool you want.
[14:15] <nedstark> ubuntu870, you can do that or use firefox with the extras disabled
[14:16] <ubuntu870> nedstark. I use google drive alot and will it affect the computer
[14:16] <untitled_> test
[14:16] <SchrodingersScat> !info sysstat
[14:17] <nedstark> ubuntu870, it may, you could give it a shot and see how it works.
[14:17] <nedstark> google tends to write everything to be a resource hog
[14:17] <nedstark> lots of new college grads in a hurry trying to make it work perfect and be totally secure doesn't lend to efficient code writing
[14:18] <ubuntu870> nedstark, and would it work for data collection and other offline applications
[14:19] <ubuntu870> like the rasberry Pi (nedstark
[14:19] <nedstark> ubuntu870, thats what i normally use old pc's for, the desktop apps.  if your hd is new, its ideal for being a pc not usually on the web that you maintain your home finance info and other personal info you don't ever want hacked
[14:19] <nedstark> if your hd is old, then back up
[14:19] <SchrodingersScat> back it up no matter what
[14:19] <SchrodingersScat> always and forever, like it's on fire
[14:20] <nedstark> especially on notebooks, and ssd's
[14:20] <nedstark> i've had desktop hd's go 20 years without fail because they aren't being jerked around like a laptop would
[14:20] <ubuntu870> back up as in external hard drive
[14:21] <nedstark> companies are all buying notebooks, but they only last 3-4 years
[14:21] <nedstark> then a hd or motherboard fails or both
[14:21] <SchrodingersScat> ubuntu870: I like the idea of 3 copies, one of those being remote if at all possible, just in case there's a major disaster.
[14:22] <ubuntu870>  And the CF29 is ultra rugged
[14:22] <nedstark> most office work can be done with an old desktop pc and should only need a memory upgrade after 3-4 years
[14:22] <ubuntu870> as in th ehard drive is incased in foam
[14:23] <nedstark> toughbooks are good, but if its been used a lot, i'd watch that hd
[14:26] <ubuntu870> well the reson why it needs a new Os is because the files came up corrupt
[14:27] <ubuntu870> so is that meaning that I need a new HD
[14:27] <SchrodingersScat> !memtest
[14:27] <SchrodingersScat> !testing | ubuntu870
[14:28] <ubuntu870> was the last robotto for me
[14:28] <SchrodingersScat> yes
[14:28] <gargsms> Running Ubuntu Server 14 on AWS EC2 instance. I am trying to run a process on port 3000, but it says the port is already in use. Doing `netstat -tupln` shows the port in use but there is no PID associated with it
[14:28] <SchrodingersScat> ubottu: domo orogoto
[14:29] <gargsms> How do I kill the rogue process?
[14:33] <Anthaas> Hi, I have a couple environment variables saved in /etc/environment, but how do I ensure that they always automatically loaded?
[14:33] <Anthaas> For example, if I restart my computer...
[14:34] <Anthaas> I don't really want to have to use the source command manually every time...
[14:37] <gargsms> Anthaas, you can add them to your bashrc file
[14:38] <NirvanaJADS> buenas
[14:40] <NirvanaJADS> buenos días
[14:40] <coasty2> yeah hi
[14:40] <coasty2> it's nice that so many distros are forks of other distros
[14:40] <tomreyn> Anthaas: the environment variables you place in /etc/environment are applied whenever a user logs in. you do not need to source them manually.
[14:41] <coasty2> because I can use this channel to ask questions about my elementary OS install
[14:41] <coasty2> since it's based on ubuntu
[14:41] <SchrodingersScat> !elementary | coasty2 I understand you're trolling though, normally people space it out a little more.
[14:41] <coasty2> SchrodingersScat, what?
[14:42] <coasty2> SchrodingersScat, I wasn't trolling, I honestly thought it wouldn't be a problem.
[14:42] <coasty2> and I was unable to find an irc channel by myself. Thanks for linking it tho
[14:42] <SchrodingersScat> coasty2: heh, ok, well no, it's not an official !flavor so there's likely elementary specific things that they should be asked about.
[14:43] <NirvanaJADS> cual es la mejor terminal que debo usar
[14:43] <tomreyn> !es | NirvanaJADS
[14:44] <coasty2> SchrodingersScat, yeah, but so far I've been able to solve all my problems using stackoverflow questions asked about ubuntu or the ubuntu forums even
[14:44] <coasty2> I'll use the elementary channel tho
[14:50] <dreamscape> hi guys is there a way to completely remove the GUI and basically convert a desktop ubuntu to ubuntu server? my machine (single core atom, 2gb ram) is struggling a bit in the GUI and i don't really need it
[14:50] <alfredo55> salve
[14:51] <k1l> dreamscape: you can boot to cli only if you want. what ubuntu version is it?
[14:51] <dreamscape> 16.04
[14:52] <dreamscape> i just want to basically save as much resources as possible and remove all the bulk as it's only a thin client and is struggling abit haha
[14:52] <k1l> dreamscape: sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target
[14:53] <dreamscape> done
[14:53] <caroga> Anyone here got AMD Graphics driver installed on their 16.04 ?
[14:53] <k1l> dreamscape: that will not start the desktop but only boot to the comandline. its basically like a server, the installed desktop is not used then untill you start the lightdm (the login screen) manually
[14:53] <dreamscape> ok great thank you
[14:53] <k1l> caroga: there is no fglrx anymore from amd.
[14:54] <caroga> k1l: that's why Im looking around for what to do now
[14:54] <dreamscape> is there anything else ican remove to save ram etc? I wouldn't mind removing the GUI completely if that is possible?
[14:54] <caroga> Currently running the nouvaeu driver (if Im correct on its name) but I think I might have some driver related issues
[14:55] <k1l> caroga: nouveau is the nvidia open source driver. for amd you are running radeon now. and depending on your card (if its a new one) you can have the official amd addon (amd_gpu).
[14:56] <caroga> Oke will look if my card is supported. Think it probably be not but just for sure.
[14:56] <caroga> In case it's not, any alternatives k1l?
[14:56] <k1l> dreamscape: first: installed but not loaded desktop doesnt use any hardware excpet some space on the hdd. secondly: ram is to be used. not used ram is waisted money :)  only issue is when the system starts using swap, since that is slow then.
[14:57] <k1l> caroga: no alternatives besides buying another/newer card :/
[14:57] <k1l> amd stopped making fglrx and makes the amd_gpu open source driver now, which is included in the kernel.
[14:57] <caroga> yeah, that would have to wait xD
[14:59] <caroga> k1l: how would i know if its already using that amd_gpu driver?
[15:00] <dreamscape> k1l I would like to lower the RAM as much as possible as if possible i would like to use a single stick of RAM (1GB) to save power
[15:01] <caroga> dreamon: if you are trying to save power than saving memory isn't your first concern.
[15:01] <caroga> also, if you have 1 or 2 slots of memory, statiscally wouldnt make a difference
[15:01] <k1l> caroga: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[15:01] <caroga> k1l: it states radeon
[15:01] <k1l> dreamscape: that doesnt save any power in a measurable way at all.
[15:01] <dreamscape> i know :) im just trying everything so far... its the lowest power atom (4w) and i want to shave more off if i can :D
[15:02] <dreamscape> ok thanks :)
[15:02] <nicomachus> dreamscape: why cut down the power usage so much?
[15:02] <dreamscape> it is on 24/7 365 and electric isn't cheap here
[15:02] <k1l> dreamscape: if you want to save power better buy a good power supply. most power suppliey consume 100W power while the system only needs 20W in idle.
[15:02] <caroga> dreamscape: remove the monitor, that saves some power. Only ssh into the device
[15:02] <caroga> disable wifi, bluetooth, if onboard
[15:03] <k1l> just look at the 90+ platinum or a pico psu
[15:03] <dreamscape> yeah it has no monitor :) doesn't even have a keyboard its all SSH
[15:03] <caroga> got drives?
[15:03] <dreamscape> it has a 87% efficient PSU
[15:03] <dreamscape> yea, x1 2.5 inch hdd 2TB
[15:03] <nicomachus> dreamscape: I agree with k1l. A better rated PSU will save more electricity than anything else. my HTPC is on 24/7/365 and barely uses 20W most of the time.
[15:03] <caroga> needs to be on all the time ?
[15:03] <Guy1524> hey guys, I have 14.04 installed on a family computer w/ an AMD Mobility Radeon HD 5730 / 6570M (from lspci).  It uses fglrx and my brother uses it to play a steam game that barely maintains above a 60 fps (a shooter)  if I install 16.04, since there is no way to get fglrx, what framerates can I expect?
[15:03] <Guy1524> the game is PVK2 if you care
[15:04] <nicomachus> Guy1524: use the open source radeon driver. It'll match fglrx or better.
[15:04] <k1l> dreamscape: look at the <100W specs of those psus. that is where the magic happens. but this gets more a topic for ##hardware
[15:04] <nicomachus> also, ##gamingonlinux might have some good ideas on that.
[15:04] <Guy1524> really?!, does it work w/ steam?
[15:04] <nicomachus> Guy1524: works great here.
[15:04] <Obadiah1> is there a channel for hexchat help
[15:04] <Guy1524> also, this is not a new AMD card, its a old 6570M
[15:05] <nicomachus> I can get 60fps playing TF2 with a Radeon HD 6450 and a Core2Duo 2.7ghz
[15:05] <Guy1524> doesn't the new driver only work w/ gcn cards
[15:05] <Guy1524> oh wow
[15:05] <Guy1524> well, I guess its worth a try
[15:05] <Guy1524> did you have to build it from source or is a good version packaged w/ 16.04
[15:05] <k1l> caroga: then look if your amd video card is new enough to be supported by amd_gpu (which seems like it doesnt because ubuntu would have loaded amd_gpu if it was supported). else you dont have any alternatives
[15:05] <nicomachus> Guy1524: IIRC, Valve has actually put a ton of work into the radeon driver for the specific purpose of improving linux gaming in steam.
[15:06] <Guy1524> oh ok
[15:06] <alfredo55> rhino
[15:06] <nicomachus> Guy1524: it's already there. Just got to System Settings --> Software & Updates --> Additional drivers and select the radeon one.
[15:06] <caroga> k1l: yeah I figured that much, but cant buy a new card as im already saving for a new pc. But good to know that it's already running the best driver possible
[15:06] <caroga> thank you for your assistance buddy
[15:07] <Guy1524> ok, I still have 14.04 installed
[15:07] <Guy1524> is the driver better in 16.04?
[15:07] <nicomachus> Guy1524: it works in 14.04 too. same driver as far as I know.
[15:07] <Guy1524> or can I test it w/ 14.04
[15:07] <Guy1524> ok, thx
[15:07] <k1l> caroga: yes. the transition right now is not the best time for endusers. but in some time the users will benefit more of that change than the fglrx state before
[15:08] <caroga> Yeah I think it will. As you also see a transition in the market for linux compatible games and such
[15:08] <PCatinean> Can anyone tell me how I can regularly save backups via ftp to a backup server?
[15:09] <bekks> PCatinean: create acron job for creating the backup, and then transfer it to your backup server.
[15:09] <caroga> PCatinean: there is a backup application installed by default, if you follow it's setup you can choose to backup ur device to FTP or something
[15:09] <PCatinean> caroga, it's autopostgresqlbackup
[15:09] <PCatinean> But I did not find in the documentation ftp saving
[15:09] <bekks> PCatinean: It saves the backup locally, you need to tranfer it yourself.
[15:10] <caroga> PCatinean: have your tried using Déjà Dup ?
[15:10] <caroga> It has FTP as storage type
[15:10] <nicomachus> caroga: THAT's the one I was trying to think of the other day!
[15:11] <bekks> caroga: that doesnt create a consistent postgres backup.
[15:11] <nicomachus> thanks friend.
[15:11] <caroga> nicomachus: no problem.
[15:11] <caroga> you may by me a beer if you like.
[15:11] <caroga> buy*
[15:11] <nicomachus> !cookie | caroga how about a cookie
[15:11] <caroga> woooot my first cookie in this channel!
[15:11] <PCatinean> caroga, for ubuntu server?
[15:12] <PCatinean> bekks, yes exactly
[15:12] <PCatinean> I just upload forcefully the content of the backup dir to the ftp server to a certain location?
[15:12] <PCatinean> and overwrite?
[15:12] <caroga> PCatinean: well, you could ofcourse just schedule it to backup that backupped file to the ftp, but otherwise, using a cronjob to transfer your backup to a ftp server would do the trick as well
[15:12] <bekks> PCatinean: I'd create a new directory, with a timestamp in its name, keep the last three backups, and delete the older ones.
[15:13] <PCatinean> bekks, autopostgresql already does that, rotating backups, daily, weekly, monthly
[15:13] <caroga> PCatinean: than you just want to transfer these files ?
[15:13] <PCatinean> But in theory I think it actually deletes old ones, versus me just uploading the content to it would mean it would get increasingly larger
[15:13] <bekks> PCatinean: Yeah, so just transfer your backup.
[15:13] <PCatinean> bekks, but if I don't delete the old ones from the backup server manully it won't work
[15:13] <PCatinean> I mean, it will just get larger and larger
[15:14] <PCatinean> maybe do a sync between the folders
[15:14] <bekks> PCatinean: Yeah.
[15:14] <gargsms> How do I run a script on system startup?
[15:14] <PCatinean> Somehow a command that says "make this folder == to this one"
[15:14] <bekks> "ln" :)
[15:14] <PCatinean> gargsms, it depends on your version since it differs
[15:14] <gargsms> Ubuntu Server 14.04
[15:15] <gargsms> I added a crontab entry @reboot /path/to/script but it didn't work
[15:15] <veep> hi all
[15:15] <PCatinean> I think that uses upstart i.e adding scripts in /etc/init
[15:15] <nicomachus> 14.04 uses upstart, yea
[15:15] <PCatinean> and there you execute your script from a file such as that
[15:16] <ZoF> Is ubuntu truly the fedora of the current GNU?
[15:16] <nicomachus> everything after 14.04 is systemd now.
[15:16] <ZoF> Is Ubuntu really ubuntu if it's really GNU/Linux?
[15:16] <ZoF> Can we call a horse a horse? Ubuntu is RHEL. Period.
[15:17] <veep> I'm trying to get the 3-4 finger gestures to work with Ubuntu 16.04.  I'm on a 2012 Macbook Pro.  Installed touch-egg but I've read that the "3,4 finger gestures are reserved".
[15:17] <gargsms> What if I add an /etc/init.d entry for the script?
[15:18] <PCatinean> gargsms, yup that also works
[15:18] <gargsms> Great
[15:18] <PCatinean> If i'm not mistaken this way you will not be able to do sudo service script command
[15:18] <PCatinean> and will have to do /etc/init.d/script command
[15:18] <PCatinean> but I could be wrong
[15:19] <nicomachus> veep: have you looked through this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch
[15:21] <gargsms> PCatinean, That I don't really need. I just want the script to be executed on startup. It's in a headless environment. So whenever a new server launches, I want that to run
[15:21] <PCatinean> sure, sounds good
[15:22] <veep> nicomachus: I haven't not no.  Looking now.  It's accepting a few of the 3/4 gestures.  Thanks.        Is there a way to edit the ones that are working?
[15:23] <nicomachus> veep: yes, it's not real easy. involves a lot of xinput config
[15:24] <nicomachus> veep: doing some reading, looks like you may have to disable those default multitouch options to get touchegg to work
[15:24] <gargsms> It didn't work. I added a new file in /etc/init.d named asdf and then chmod +x it. Rebooted, but the script didn't run
[15:24] <nicomachus> veep: see here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/468809/multitouch-gesture-in-ubuntu-14-04
[15:25] <veep> Nico: the touch-egg GUI...  All of those 3-4 gestures won't work because the system is over-riding them for its own commands?  i.e. "reserved".     ...making the touch-egg GUI essentially useless for 3/4 finger gestures?
[15:25] <nicomachus> possible
[15:26] <veep> nico: ok i'll check it out.  Thanks.
[15:29] <provola> Hi!
[15:29] <Anthaas> HI provola !!!!
[15:29] <provola> How are you?
[15:29] <Anthaas> Sorry, typo. I meant Hello.
[15:30] <provola> How I can build Ubuntu Touch for Moto G 2014?
[15:30] <nicomachus> !touch | provola
[15:30] <ejat> anyone having broken icon in 16.10 : http://picpaste.com/broken-icon-right-top-panel-yvqAsbg3.png
[15:31] <nicomachus> ejat: you'll have to ask in #ubuntu+1 about that
[15:35] <gargsms> PCatinean_, there is some issue with my system. I have process running on port 3000. I kill it and then restart, but somehow the port is not freed
[15:35] <gargsms> It is an AWS EC2 instance, if that helps
[15:35] <PCatinean_> hmm, try changing to a higher port?
[15:36] <cash> Whats up team
[15:36] <cash> Good Morning to All
[15:36] <coasty2> finished setting up 100 percent, what do you think fellow penguins? http://imgur.com/a/76kJw
[15:36] <cash> Looks good is that Elementary OS?
[15:37] <nicomachus> coasty2: head on over to #rice on the Rizon network and let me know some more things about that setup. Off-topic here.
[15:38] <veep> im using Hexchat but when I maximize the window, the right side extends past my screen, hiding the last inch give-or-take.  Can this be adjusted?
[15:39] <nicomachus> veep: try asking in #Hexchat
[15:39] <gargsms> No. The error is consistent everywhere. Can I unbind it using something?
[15:39] <veep> nico: ok
[15:40] <johnc4510> sounds like maybe a resolution set incorrectly
[15:41] <schwarz> hallo
[15:41] <cash> Hi guys - Dell e4310 keyboard back light doesnt turn on, fresh 16.04 install - any ideas?
[15:43] <nicomachus> cash: maybe some help here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/763552/keyboard-backlight-keeps-going-on-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[15:43] <nicomachus> in that one it keeps going on, but it at least shows where the settings are that you can check.
[15:45] <ropo> Iam trying to make  a bootable (linux mint) disk using startup disk creator but I am getting--> “errno 5 - input/output error”, help
[15:47] <cash> ropo which medium are you writing to?
[15:47] <ropo> cash pendrive
[15:49] <cash> did you check "restore partition image"
[15:49] <cash> or something else?
[15:50] <SchrodingersScat> ropo: are you sure the flashdrive isn't toast?
[15:51] <bekks> cash: you need the particular dell driver for that - which most likely exists for windows only.
[15:51] <cash> hi bekks ty however it worked on fedora 24 :/
[15:51] <cash> and on ubuntu 14.04
[15:51] <cash> :((
[15:52] <cash> but fedora has too many problems for me - cant print, not noob friendly.  gnome 3.22 is awesome however
[15:53] <ropo> SchrodingersScat, It isn't
[15:53] <Guy1524_> Hey guys, so I started using the open source radeon driver and I am getting 1 fps in a game that got 60fps on fglrx
[15:53] <Guy1524_> how do I check to make sure im not using software rendering
[15:53] <Guy1524_> because the performance is unbelievably bad
[15:54] <Guy1524_> also, when I stopped using fglrx, I had to use an older kernel as the newer one would freeze
[15:58] <nook24> Did one of you know a good web gui to use linux as router ( maybe gf compatible :D )
[16:00] <Jesusss> how change channel ?
[16:00] <Jesusss> join #offtopic
[16:01] <nook24> Jesusss: /j #channelname
[16:01] <schwarz> jesusss :)
[16:03] <Jaggro> can someone tell me why there are 3 versions of snapd available for upgrade?
[16:04] <Jaggro> kubuntu 16.04
[16:08] <makh> zd
[16:13] <ogshittingbull> hello world
[16:16] <ogshittingbull> i need help
[16:16] <gargsms> My script is simply not getting executed on reboot. I tried /etc/rc.local, I tried crontab for both root and the user
[16:17] <kittykitty> i just put a desktop file in /usr/share/applications but it doesnt show in the unity launcher
[16:18]  * Aesir_ 
[16:18] <nicomachus> kittykitty: does it show in the dash when you search for it?
[16:18] <kittykitty> no nicomachus
[16:29] <OerHeks> kittykitty add the desktop file properly, or logout/login . http://askubuntu.com/a/447703
[16:30] <ayrus> Hi, my dongle is not connecting. Sometimes it connects and sometimes its not. http://pastebin.com/pV93AySB Kindly help
[16:30] <ayrus> logs http://pastebin.com/pV93AySB
[16:32] <OerHeks> ayrus, i read a lot [UFW BLOCK] .. maybe set some rule?
[16:34] <ayrus> OerHeks, no rules for that http://pastebin.com/hm3pgcnZ
[16:34] <OerHeks> it complains about port 8612, if i read correct
[16:35] <explosive> ayrus: try disabling ufw temporarily?
[16:35] <ayrus> OerHeks, yes but the problem is device is not connetcting as modem.
[16:35] <ayrus> explosive, ok.
[16:35] <OerHeks> ..
[16:37] <ayrus> explosive, no luck. not conected as modem. switching to CD ROM.
[16:43] <explosive> ayrus: live cd you mean?
[16:43] <ayrus> explosive, no.
[16:44] <icey> anybody experienced networking missing after resuming from suspend in the last 48 hours? Before, I had no issues when resuming and now it's nearing 100%, running Xenial
[16:44] <ayrus> explosive, http://pastebin.com/znhqDNUB syslog
[16:46] <explosive> ayrus: did it work?
[16:46] <ayrus> xenial release sucks as the wife after one year of marriage.
[16:47] <cripcate> i get a loud system sound, when trying to use backspace without anything to delete. any way to disable that?
[16:47] <ayrus> explosive, no! :( before that i have problem with the Memory leak. some how I managed to correct that. not this usb modem.
[16:47] <cripcate> 16.04 kernel 4.7.2
[16:48] <icey> cripcate: what program are you using, I have no issue doing the same
[16:48] <explosive> cripcate: try xset b off
[16:48] <cripcate> explosive, it worked, thanks
[16:48] <explosive> cripcate: it's temporary though
[16:48] <cripcate> icey, i had it in terminal, irc, pretty much everywhere
[16:49] <cripcate> explosive, can i put the command in my autostart config?
[16:49] <explosive> might want to add it to the startup apps
[16:49] <cripcate> ah okay
[16:49] <cripcate> ty
[16:49] <explosive> cripcate: yes
[16:49] <explosive> np
[16:50] <explosive> ayrus: try a newer kernel maybe?
[16:50] <ayrus> explosive, yes I have tried the options. but its not working.
[16:51] <explosive> ayrus: did it used to work?
[16:51] <ayrus> explosive, currently running 4.4.0-36-generic. I have tried to boot with 4.7 and 4.7.3. that also not worked.
[16:53] <ayrus> explosive, I have tried with linux-image-4.6.3-040603-generic, 4.6.7-040607-generic
[16:54] <explosive> ayrus: did it work on 14.04?
[16:55] <ayrus> explosive, yes. that works perfectly on 14.04. never got a single problem. I have formated the system and installed fresh copy from iso Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS. now its not working
[16:56] <ltrtiger> New to ubuntu and new here. Lots of questions but will lurk and hopefully learn
[16:57] <explosive> ayrus: try sudo modprobe option , same for usb_wwan , usbserial and usb_storage
[16:59] <superuser> hi
[16:59] <explosive> ayrus: this might help https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1576997
[16:59] <superuser> lol thanks
[16:59] <ayrus> explosive, ok.
[16:59] <explosive> ayrus: it mentions something about "The 1bbb:f000 is the code for memory device mode, we need to switch to modem mode (1bbb:0017)."
[16:59] <superuser> luv u all
[17:00] <superuser> do u like me? or not? if not i can leave
[17:03] <cripcate> explosive, may i ask how you got all that know how and how long it took you? :D
[17:04] <cripcate> hope I'll get to solving problems myself one time :D
[17:04] <r1nt3c> hi
[17:05] <coasty2> anyone here have any experience with running Ps CS3 and Illustrator CS3 on Wine?
[17:08] <explosive> cripcate: i don't know much about his problem, just googled the stuff :)
[17:08] <miriam> hey guys. I'm on an old pc with nvidia graphic cards. Should I use Nouveau or propietary graphic cards? Why?
[17:09] <nedstark> miriam, the proprietary one better implements the card's functionality usually
[17:09] <nedstark> if the drivers app shows a proprietary 1 is available i'd use it
[17:10] <miriam> Even if the laptop is really old? What downside has propietary drivers? Security?
[17:11] <ayrus> explosive, not worked! :(
[17:12] <nedstark> miriam, if nvidia wants to put malware in your pc, they could do it through the code built into the card
[17:12] <nedstark> thats just fud
[17:12] <nedstark> the nouveau driver is probably ok for most uses, but you will get better performance from the people who had full details about how to write the driver, not the volunteer group with partial information
[17:15] <veep_> using a MBP, the auto-hide doesn't work.  When set, it will hide the Launcher, but it won't come back.
[17:15] <miriam> Thank you @nedstark I've also heard about problem with update using propietary drivers. Is it true?
[17:15] <patrask> miriam: security may be a downside yes; several vulns in the proprietary nvidia driver has been published
[17:15] <veep_> Can this be fixed so the Taskbar comes back and auto-hide works properly?
[17:15] <veep_> err..  Launcher, not taskbar
[17:16] <patrask> miriam: not sure about nouveau; im guesing it's nowhere near as well-audited
[17:16] <patrask> miriam: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-5264/Nvidia.html
[17:17] <patrask> not a stellar track record
[17:20] <natmal> Hello! I'm having trouble with unattended-upgrades; it's not sending email notifications. Unattended-Upgrade::Mail is set to a full email address (not a user), MailOnlyOnError is set to false, and mailx is installed and confirmed working.
[17:20] <erialdo> hello everyone. I accidentaly added a wrong command in the context menu to open the txt file . How to remove it ?
[17:20] <natmal> I'm on 16.04.1 LTS
[17:20] <nedstark> miriam: i've never had issues updating proprietary drivers.
[17:22] <explosive> erialdo: how did you add it?
[17:24] <erialdo> @explosive: I used terminal to $mimeopen -d file.txt then proceded to add the command . Unfortunately I wrote the command wrong and now I am stuck with that in the context menu.
[17:25] <erialdo> @explosive : By the way I wanted to add the context menu the notepad++. I achieved that but after I made the mistake
[17:28] <explosive> erialdo: what happens if you run mimeopen -d again?
[17:28] <erialdo> explosive: it shows the new option again
[17:29] <erialdo> explosive: there must be a config file for the context menu of ubuntu mate
[17:29] <explosive> erialdo: try right click properties
[17:29] <erialdo> explosive: that lists all the possible application or commands to open files
[17:30] <explosive> try the reset button
[17:30] <erialdo> where is it?
[17:31] <explosive> hmm i'm using unity, it's to the right
[17:31] <explosive> i mean left
[17:31] <explosive> in the open with tab
[17:31] <erialdo> explosive: I think we are talking different language . I am using gnome for ubuntu mate
[17:32] <erialdo> the default one
[17:32] <explosive> i've not really used that much to be honest
[17:33] <erialdo> explosive: I searched all over the internet
[17:33] <erialdo> explosive: it is a little pesky
[17:34] <explosive> erialdo: try adding an odd name
[17:34] <erialdo> explosive: better not
[17:34] <explosive> then grep the home dir for it grep -i "name" -R ~/
[17:35] <erialdo> explosive: because I already see the remove button when I open the context menu when I right click
[17:35] <Vaska> Hello - I'm trying to install gnome-scheduler, that nice crontab editor, but I can't seem to find it with apt in 16.04
[17:35] <erialdo> explosive: but its deactivated
[17:36] <laserbea14445> Is someone here is using pcsx2 (PS2 emulator)? I'm wondering how well it runs on a recent Intel GPU (Broadwell gen)...
[17:36] <explosive> erialdo: i'm trying it
[17:38] <erialdo> Vaska: sudo dpkg -i gnome-schedule_2.3.0-0ubuntu16.04_amd64.deb
[17:38] <erialdo> Vaska: I found it on the internet
[17:39] <explosive> erialdo: found it
[17:39] <explosive> /home/e/.local/share/applications/blabla-usercreated-1.desktop
[17:39] <erialdo> explosive: what is that?
[17:40] <Vaska> erialdo: thanks!
[17:40] <explosive> the command i used was "blabla" it's also here /home/e/.local/share/applications/defaults.list:application/x-shellscript=blabla-usercreated-1.desktop;
[17:40] <explosive> erialdo: that's the file that contains the context stuff
[17:40] <erialdo> Vaska: no problem
[17:40] <erialdo> explosive: one min
[17:42] <Vaska> erialdo: crap, I need x86 :(
[17:47] <erialdo> explosive: let me try that and restart
[17:47] <Vaska> erialdo: no worries, compiling it from git source now :)
[17:47] <explosive> erialdo: ok
[17:47] <erialdo> explosive, fucked up removed the right one
[17:50] <erialdo> explosive: you there?
[17:53] <explosive> erialdo: yeah
[17:53] <explosive> all good?
[17:53] <erialdo> explosive, I think I found it
[17:53] <erialdo> nope , not yet ...arghhhh
[17:54] <explosive> what did you delete..?
[17:55] <erialdo> explosive, some wine-application desktop
[17:55] <explosive> maximum create another user and copy the configs to your one
[17:56] <DarFoxHacker> 1
[17:56] <DarFoxHacker> r.
[17:56] <DarFoxHacker> im haxker
[17:56] <DarFoxHacker> im
[17:56] <erialdo> explosive: not a big problem
[17:56] <DarFoxHacker> im hacker
[17:57] <DarFoxHacker> u
[17:57] <erialdo> explosive just a little annoying to see "A wine application" on the list of the programs
[17:57] <DarFoxHacker> is that anyone
[17:57] <DJones> DarFoxHacker: Ok, but do you have an Ubuntu support question? Thats what this channel is for
[17:57] <DarFoxHacker> use kali linux
[17:57] <erialdo> explosive, eventually I will find the solution
[17:57] <DarFoxHacker> is it anyone use kali linux!!!!!
[17:58] <DJones> DarFoxHacker: This is the Ubuntu support channel, Kali has its own supprt networks
[17:58] <DarFoxHacker> Attack my IP please   127.0.0.1
[17:59] <compdoc> lol
[18:00] <explosive> :D
[18:04] <erialdo> DarFoxHacker that is not your IP
[18:07] <veep_>  /join #hexchat
[18:10] <curlyears> heigh hough
[18:12] <fedor> this is test message
[18:13] <explosive> this is a popquiz message
[18:14] <fedor> Hi there. I want to install python 2.7 packages in 16.04. I am having trougle doing that now. I am used to installing packages via pip (in Python 2.7) and pip3 (in python 3.4 or 3.5 for that matter). Now after upgrading to 16.04 i cannot install python packages via pip in python 2.7. How do I proceed to make pip work in python 2.7
[18:19] <fedor> is there any activity in this chat. I just do not get it
[18:20] <ultrixx> you just wrote something
[18:20] <Grorco> I can't get service-config-samba to start it keeps prompting me for my password but then doesn't load. Any ideas on what to do?
[18:21] <DJones> fedor: Just be patient, if anbody can help, they normally reply.  If you don't get a reply, maybe repost your question in about 15 minutes to give users chance to  change in the channel
[18:21] <t2mkn> Host OSX 10.11.6, VirtualBox 5.1.0, Guest Ubuntu 16.04. text copy past work fine, but file can't be. what I am missing. Any one please.
[18:23] <mattfly> hello
[18:23] <mattfly> people!!!
[18:23] <explosive> hello
[18:23] <mattfly> i want to take a screenshot from another display
[18:24] <mattfly> but it looks like X server freezes the other sidplay when you go to other display
[18:24] <mattfly> how can i keep both displays running?
[18:24] <mattfly>  or take anon full black screenshot?
[18:29] <vdamewood> t2mkn: Would you be interested in a work-around, or are you specifically interested in getting file copy/paste between systems working?
[18:35] <fedor> I made a workaround which makes use of python3. That is good enough for me. The problem however persists.
[18:37] <curlyears> fedor:  this channel has very strict restrictions on "off topic" discussion.  Hence, unless someone has something "on topic" to say or ask, the channel idels quietly.  Fir example, this explanation is techincally "off topic"
[18:39] <nedstark> #ubuntu-offtopic has non-technical discussion, such as Apple's plan for replacing the iPhone 8's screen with wireless brain implant visualization
[18:39] <curlyears> idles
[18:43] <guest2> It didn't let me join. Racists! We proud Andromedans will not be treated so!
[18:46] <OerHeks> guest2 time to read the message you got, help in #freenode
[18:46] <OerHeks> !register
[18:55] <afidegnum> hello, can anyone explain the use of apt-ftp command?
[18:56] <erialdo> explosive: ?
[18:57] <EriC^^> erialdo: hey
[18:57] <cuddylier> I accidentally pulled one of the drives in an mdadm raid 1, how do I get mdadm to see the drive again? It shows 1 drive missing: http://pastebin.com/raw/UTxpTKZ6
[18:57] <erialdo> explosive: winetricks did that problem
[18:58] <guest2> It is too late OerHeks. Our people consider this an act of war. Space Armada Warships are en route to destroy this tiny Class-14 planet. We will devour your planet's meager resources for the advancement of the Galactic Andromedan Empire !
[18:59] <erialdo> EriC^^: I had a problem with the context menu but now is solved
[18:59] <guest2> What is the difference between the new apt and aptitude?
[18:59] <guest2> And which is better?
[19:00] <erialdo> guest2: apt is better
[19:00] <afidegnum> any insight ?
[19:00] <guest2> What makes it so?
[19:00] <EriC^^> erialdo: ok cool, i'm explosive btw
[19:00] <guest2> @erialdo
[19:01] <erialdo> @explosive: ah ok .. winetricks caused the problem because apparently when installed it created 'A wine application' in the context menu
[19:01] <erialdo> explosive, maybe I am wrong but this is what i understood
[19:02] <erialdo> @explosive anyway i think that still the caja-extensions context could be better
[19:09] <the_CEO> alguem aii ?
[19:09] <the_CEO> ALGUM BR AII ?
[19:09] <the_CEO> KKKKKKKKK
[19:09] <k1l> !br | the_CEO
[19:10] <blackdrake> hi
[19:10] <the_CEO> hi
[19:10] <the_CEO> what's your name?
[19:12] <the_CEO> ALGUM BRRRRRRRRR AIIIIIIIIIIIIII ??????????????????????
[19:12] <the_CEO> ??????????????????????
[19:12] <the_CEO> ?????????????????????????
[19:12] <the_CEO> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[19:12] <k1l> the_CEO: stop that trolling.
[19:21] <DzAirmaX> hey
[19:21] <DzAirmaX> how important it is to over provision a ssd under ubuntu?
[19:25] <akik> DzAirmaX: over provision?
[19:25] <OerHeks> to *over* provision ? you don't do that, any hidden space is for the controller of that ssd, either cache or spare bytes in case of failures.
[19:25] <anonan> hi, i'm trying to create a modified ubuntu installer iso that contains a script to be executed in early_command. it seems like the script isn't called, though. i tried adding the script to the initrd, but it doesn't show up in the filesystem. what am i doing wrong?
[19:26] <DzAirmaX> yeah over provision
[19:26] <DzAirmaX> https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/SSD_Over-provisioning_using_hdparm
[19:26] <anonan> when i say filesystem, i should specify that i mean the filesystem of the live-cd/installer
[19:27] <DzAirmaX> OerHeks: this is not a best practice to do so?
[19:28] <benoit> Hi !
[19:28] <OerHeks> DzAirmaX, please read your own url, scepticly.
[19:29] <akik> You have requested reducing the apparent size of the drive.
[19:29] <akik> This is a BAD idea, and can easily destroy all of the drive's contents.
[19:29] <akik> Please supply the --yes-i-know-what-i-am-doing flag if you really want this.
[19:29] <lordcirth> I don't know why you'd possibly want to do that
[19:30] <lordcirth> If your drive is running out of spares, you need a new one
[19:30] <akik> and later on the page "VERY DANGEROUS"
[19:30] <OerHeks> it will go bonkers, indeed
[19:31] <DzAirmaX> OerHeksL and akik: I might not express myself correclty
[19:31] <OerHeks> "Many Linux distribution files enable the libata parameter, ignore_hpa." great tutorial
[19:32] <DzAirmaX> OerHeksL and akik: I have a ssd and I would like to install ubuntu on it, my question is: do I need to do somehting on the ssd before the install?
[19:32] <akik> DzAirmaX: oh that's easy, no
[19:32] <OerHeks> No, use it like a hdd
[19:32] <DzAirmaX> ok perfect boyz
[19:32] <DzAirmaX> thanks for the advice
[19:33] <DzAirmaX> last thing
[19:33] <OerHeks> traditional hdd's have more chance for whitespots than ssd's
[19:33] <DzAirmaX> what about the swap on ssd, I read ZRam is a good alternative. Any thoughts?
[19:34] <lordcirth> DzAirmaX, if it's a modern SSD, it won't kill your drive to put swap on it. But it will use space.  zram is cool.
[19:34] <DzAirmaX> lordcirth: is it stable?
[19:36] <lordcirth> DzAirmaX, zram?  Yeah it's stable
[19:36] <lordcirth> Half our production servers run it
[19:37] <DzAirmaX> lordcirth: when you virtualize, you also install zram on the virtual machine?
[19:38] <qwebirc48637> Hello.
[19:38] <qwebirc48637> I need big help
[19:39] <benoit> tell us your problem !
[19:39] <lordcirth> DzAirmaX, good question!
[19:39] <qwebirc48637> I want to use my USB headset on Lubuntu 15.10
[19:39] <qwebirc48637> Any ideas what to do?
[19:39] <caroga> qwebirc48637: plug it in ?
[19:39] <qwebirc48637> Well
[19:40] <qwebirc48637> Already had :D
[19:40] <caroga> Great!
[19:40] <OerHeks> 15.10 is dead, EOL.
[19:40] <qwebirc48637> Still from my laptop sound
[19:40] <caroga> well
[19:40] <lordcirth> DzAirmaX, I am not sure.  I think installing zram in the VM would let the guest kernel choose what to compress better than the host would know.
[19:40] <caroga> you could check if your sound settings are adapted to use your headset?
[19:40] <qwebirc48637> I cannot open
[19:40] <qwebirc48637> I press Right Click\
[19:41] <qwebirc48637> Volume Control settings
[19:41] <qwebirc48637> And oppens me an empty comand prompt
[19:41] <qwebirc48637> I have PulseAudio already
[19:41] <caroga> http://i.stack.imgur.com/rGCaW.png
[19:42] <qwebirc48637> Ahm
[19:42] <natmal> I'm having trouble with unattended-upgrades on 16.04.1 LTS; it's not sending email notifications. Unattended-Upgrade::Mail is set to a full email address (not a user), MailOnlyOnError is set to false, and mailx is installed and confirmed working. Am I missing something?
[19:42] <qwebirc48637> Does not let me there
[19:42] <caroga> hmm
[19:42] <caroga> and on your options panel, are you able to select sound from there?
[19:42] <qwebirc48637> Nope.
[19:42] <qwebirc48637> Just shows like you do in Windows 7.
[19:42] <qwebirc48637> Without mixer.
[19:43] <qwebirc48637> One simple drag scroll for volume and mute box.
[19:43] <qwebirc48637> That is it.
[19:43] <qwebirc48637> Is there any command?
[19:44] <qwebirc48637> that I can use
[19:45] <Ubuntivity> hello
[19:45] <tomreyn> qwebirc48637: you should really upgrade to a supported ubuntu version
[19:45] <qwebirc48637> Well
[19:45] <qwebirc48637> Isnt this version supported
[19:45] <tomreyn> no, it is not
[19:46] <lordcirth> !eol
[19:46] <Ubuntivity> I have a problem with Ubuntu 12.04 brightness on Lenovo B570e
[19:46] <lordcirth> 16.04 has been out for a while
[19:46] <qwebirc48637> My PC is slow as hell I cannot wait 1 hour, tell me another way or I must
[19:46] <xangua> !12.04
[19:47] <qwebirc48637> I have only 1 GB RAM
[19:47] <qwebirc48637> I was on 15.04 before
[19:47] <qwebirc48637> But was buggy
[19:47] <Ubuntivity> xangua: it is still supported
[19:48] <Ubuntivity> */
[19:48] <qwebirc48637> Ok.
[19:48] <qwebirc48637> There was a command
[19:48] <qwebirc48637> Can you tell it to me
[19:48] <qwebirc48637> In the cmd
[19:49] <Ubuntivity> I tried adding "acpi-brightness=vendor" to the boot parameters with no effect
[19:49] <qwebirc48637> Is the command: sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:49] <qwebirc48637> ?
[19:49] <Ubuntivity> the brightness is always at maximum
[19:49] <akik> Ubuntivity: the dash - should be an underscore _
[19:50] <lordcirth> qwebirc48637, full instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[19:50] <Ubuntivity> akik: are you 100% sure?
[19:50] <akik> Ubuntivity: actually it should be acpi_backlight
[19:50] <qwebirc48637> I started an update
[19:50] <qwebirc48637> NVM
[19:52] <qwebirc48637> 30 mins
[19:52] <qwebirc48637> and I get 16.04
[19:52] <qwebirc48637> :)
[19:53] <qwebirc48637> Is there anyone Bulgarian?
[19:53] <OerHeks> maybe answer #4 works for you, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1244645
[19:58] <Adit> Hello. I was trying to upgrade from 15.04 to 16.04 but I had a power failure midway and now, I get this when I try booting up: http://i.imgur.com/T4l60qO.jpg
[19:59] <OsamaAkbar> Adit: A safer way to upgrade is to use 'sudo do-release-upgrade'
[19:59] <OsamaAkbar> Adit: Using your Console
[20:00] <Adit> OsamaAkbar: I'll keep that in mind for the future, but how can I resolve this for the time being?
[20:00] <OerHeks> Adit, boot in recoverymode and perform Sudo dpkg --configure -a
[20:00] <OsamaAkbar> Yes, that is a way too.
[20:00] <OerHeks> then run apt install -f, all should be fine
[20:01] <Adit> OerHeks: Thank you :)
[20:01] <natmal> do-release-upgrade was the only way I could update Ubuntu on my UDOO Quad; the GUI updater would ask me for authentication and then just close. >:|
[20:01] <OsamaAkbar> I was going to say use flash drive bootable, but also fine
[20:01] <guest2> Is recovery mode the same as single-user mode
[20:02] <OsamaAkbar> guest2: Well, not that, but kind of, yes.
[20:03] <OsamaAkbar> Guys?
[20:03] <OsamaAkbar> Any gamers here?
[20:03] <karimoff> +
[20:03] <karimoff> q all
[20:03] <OsamaAkbar> How do you play League of Legends on a toaster? Any tips?
[20:04] <OsamaAkbar> I hate Windows a bit
[20:04] <karimoff> no, i dont play this
[20:04] <nicomachus> OsamaAkbar: please stay on topic
[20:04] <karimoff> exit
[20:04] <blackdrake> hi
[20:04] <OsamaAkbar> nicomachus: Well, I just asked for suggestions man. :D
[20:05] <OerHeks> that is what #ubuntu-offtopic is for
[20:06] <OsamaAkbar> Is there any way that I can install NVidia GeForce 960M video driver on Ubuntu?
[20:07] <prettyinred> Those who have obtained power through lies, will do anything to remain in power through lies. Truth by its nature is a catalyst of correction, at its heart, truth is necessary for our very survival. Consider the desperation within the minds of a group which so desperately fears the truth of legitimate dissent that it would demand censorship of free speech.
[20:07] <prettyinred> World jewry is in a mad dash to shut down internet activists who have been effectively exposing jewish criminality and initiating a movement to rid ourselves of jewish tyranny.
[20:08] <prettyinred> http://www.renegadetribune.com/jewrys-move-shut-down-online-anti-semitism/
[20:08] <OerHeks> prettyinred, thos who don't read the topic should do so.
[20:08] <OerHeks> !ot > prettyinred
[20:09] <OsamaAkbar> Anyone developer?
[20:09] <nicomachus> OsamaAkbar: do you have specific support question about Ubuntu?
[20:09] <OsamaAkbar> I said them man
[20:10] <OsamaAkbar> I was going to suggest something for your OS as an addon.
[20:10] <WoC> is there an easy way to remove apparmor ?
[20:10] <nicomachus> OerHeks: prettyinred has been here under a few different names, spamming the same crap.
[20:11] <prettyinred> nicomachus, Excuse me?
[20:11] <prettyinred> nicomachus, Take it private if you have an issue. This is a support channel.
[20:11] <nicomachus> OsamaAkbar: I don't see any support questions. Unless you're having an issue with your Ubuntu OS right now that you need help with, please leave the channel.
[20:11] <OsamaAkbar> nicomachus: Leave him. Just follow his IP address and restrict him.
[20:11] <OsamaAkbar> Ok
[20:11] <OsamaAkbar> thanks foe the help
[20:11] <OsamaAkbar> for*
[20:12] <OsamaAkbar> Bye
[20:12] <OsamaAkbar> Have a nice evening
[20:12] <OsamaAkbar> or day
[20:12] <prettyinred> nicomachus, Right now exposure is going viral. That's why you're seeing people spreading awareness in support channels.
[20:13] <OerHeks> prettyinred, we don't support your message, take it elsewhere please.
[20:13] <OerHeks> !ops
[20:17] <OerHeks> ty
[20:18] <meles> My HDD seems to have a hardware defect. I heard some weired clicking, but it still seemed to work. Now it is not anymore, i took it out of the computer and plugged it into another one. I can't access it and dmesg says http://paste.ubuntu.com/23161053/ can anybody help me what I could do to access the data and backup them (I have a backup but would like to get the lattest data also from the HDD).
[20:21] <OerHeks> ouch,  blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 0
[20:21] <texla> Upon completing upgrade 14.04 to 16.04 prior to login I get a message (/dev/sda1 clean XXX.XXX file, xxx.xxx blocks >What do I need to do to clear that message
[20:21] <lordcirth> texla, why do you need to clear it?
[20:22] <texla> lord
[20:23] <texla> lordcirth, It was not there prior to upgrade why is there now and what does it mean
[20:23] <OerHeks> meles, maybe testdisk can save some data, but you need enough space on a seperate drive then ( and sort files manually)
[20:24] <OerHeks> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[20:24] <lordcirth> texla, it means that fsck checked your disk on boot and it was fine.
[20:24] <OerHeks> if that message keeps coming back, fsck worked but drive is not fine.
[20:25] <lordcirth> OerHeks, what triggers it to run?
[20:25] <OerHeks> depends what sda1 is ..
[20:26] <texla> Error not sda 1 but sda6 which is the partition for ubuntu
[20:27] <OerHeks> it is a flag in fstab http://askubuntu.com/questions/761653/startup-problem-in-16-04-lts
[20:33] <Ntemis> i cant reboot my laptop ->it freezes
[20:33] <Ntemis> i can only shutdown
[20:34] <meles> OerHeks i already tried testdisk it says Unable to open file or device /dev/sdb: No such file or directory
[20:35] <tomreyn> Ntemis: at which point does it freeze? what do you see on screen? is there anytrhing in syslog?
[20:36] <tomreyn> ...or dmesg.log
[20:36] <Ntemis> on final screen when gets on the console out put
[20:37] <Ntemis> how i check the syslog?
[20:37] <Ntemis> or/and dmesg.log?
[20:37] <professor_sadasd> How can I install glib-2.0 version 2.26 or later?
[20:37] <apb1963> So I guess bashing-OM is hiding.  lol
[20:37] <Ntemis> i think is a systemd issue
[20:38] <apb1963> professor_sadasd: Why do you want to?
[20:39] <professor_sadasd> I want to install midnight commander.
[20:39] <dreamscape_> hey guys i have a partition i want to auto mount at start up. (sda5) what is the command to do this in term?
[20:39] <apb1963> a man after my own heart
[20:39] <k1l> professor_sadasd: midnight commander is in the ubuntu repo already.
[20:39] <fakam> Hello, I have a fresh install of kubuntu, When I play games it flickers a lot. I have a laptop with a built in intel vid card and a nvidia gaming card..
[20:39] <professor_sadasd> ah thanks
[20:39] <k1l> !info mc | professor_sadasd
[20:39] <tomreyn> Ntemis: system logs are in /var/log/ - you will need to use sudo to access some of them. you can use the 'less' text viewer to do so: sudo less /var/log/syslog
[20:40] <apb1963> fakam: See if changing the refresh rate helps.
[20:40] <k1l> fakam: which driver do you use? the nvidia from the ubuntu repo?
[20:40] <fakam> i believe i installed the driver
[20:41] <fakam> where would i change the refresh rate
[20:41] <sleepy_> dreamscape_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/154180/how-to-mount-a-new-drive-on-startup
[20:41] <nicomachus> fakam: did you finally get it installed?
[20:42] <dreamscape_> ?? i don't want to format the parition
[20:42] <fakam> hey nicomachus, yes i had to do crazy things with a uefi shim @_@
[20:42] <SchrodingersScat> !fstab | dreamscape_
[20:42] <nicomachus> \o/
[20:42] <fakam> now i'm trying to figure out why games flicker so much
[20:42] <fakam> I was so happy man lol
[20:43] <fakam> I freaked out a bit
[20:43] <dreamscape_> do i edit it with a text editor?
[20:43] <dreamscape_> lol why i ubuntu so hard to use
[20:43] <fakam> it's not hard to use, it's just not for everyone.
[20:44] <sleepy_> dreamscape_, for security, you can use nano, vi/vim, gedit
[20:44] <fakam> what's a good looking irc client for ubuntu/kubuntu guys?
[20:44] <nicomachus> irssi, weechat, hexchat
[20:44] <nicomachus> irssi and weechat are CLI clients, hexchat more of a classic GUI
[20:44] <SchrodingersScat> dreamscape_: once you get the hang of it it's straightforward.  First time can be boggling but then you see the reason behind things.  sudo nano /etc/fstab    if you want a cli text editor, and gksudo gedit /etc/fstab if you like gui things.
[20:44] <sleepy_> irssi is like for hardcore terminal users
[20:44] <dreamscape_> I can see inside the file but i have absolutely no idea what to do
[20:44] <dreamscape_> its mental
[20:45] <nicomachus> sleepy_: meh.
[20:45] <fakam> i know my terminal
[20:45] <sleepy_> I like my eyesight
[20:45] <sleepy_> hexchat is nice
[20:45] <fakam> i want something that looks decent lol
[20:45] <sleepy_> I think pidgin also does irc
[20:45] <dreamscape_> why is this so hard? lol
[20:45] <SchrodingersScat> dreamscape_: read the documentation in the link, normally it's the UUID of the drive followed by the options you want, like the mount point, etc.
[20:45] <fakam> i'm a fan of easy on the eyes
[20:45] <dreamscape_> it makes no sense to me
[20:46] <sleepy_> I forgot how steep of learning curve linux is
[20:46] <SchrodingersScat> dreamscape_: the fstab file tells ubuntu where to place the drive logically in your filesystem, and the mounting options.
[20:47] <dreamscape_> so what would i put to just make my partition mount automatically?
[20:47] <fakam> linux has a curve but once you get passed it's a joy
[20:47] <dreamscape_> yeah linux is good, i love it but i stick to windows as linux frustrates the hell out of me. such simple things take ages to work out or even get to work
[20:47] <sleepy_> meh, idk if i ever found the joy, I might be a masochist
[20:48] <fakam> haha
[20:48] <dreamscape_> windows - plug in drive, pops up.. linux.. plug it in, find sda, mount it, prey, automount... end up in the situation i am in now... lol its strange to me how much effort it takes to do simple things
[20:48] <Ntemis> tomreyn: i think i got it
[20:49] <fakam> i had no problem with plug n pray on linux
[20:49] <dreamscape_> XD
[20:49] <nicomachus> lol
[20:49] <SchrodingersScat> if it's an external, mine does just pop up
[20:49] <dreamscape_> im in command line only due to resources
[20:49] <fakam> linux is not for everyone yet, but if you are a geek you will enjoy the good parts
[20:49] <apb1963> fakam: Try this link.  I don't know if it works or not, just found it.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/147580/how-to-see-change-screen-refresh-rate-or-monitor-frequency
[20:50] <fakam_> yes hexchat is prettier thanks
[20:50] <jwhisnant> Any particular recommendations on disk data recovery utilities. I have a laptop, with an encrypted disk I can't mount because I have several Error: UNC at LBA errors. Ubuntu 12.04 that I am accessing through a recovery CD.
[20:50] <SchrodingersScat> dreamscape_: ok, then good opportunity to learn.  if you're using /dev/sda5 as an example, then /dev/sda5 /foo/bar/mountpoint/ ext4 errors=remount-ro,relatime 0 1  #should be enough, where ext4 is whatever filesystem it is, etc.
[20:51] <dreamscape_> ok thanks
[20:53] <Ntemis> tomreyn: i think i got it
[20:53] <apb1963> fakam_: Did I notice you said you had nvidia or was that someone else?  If so, you could try this one: sudo nvidia-xconfig   which I found here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/433855/how-to-make-custom-refresh-rate-stay-saved with more decent info.
[20:53] <Ntemis> tomreyn: i think i got it
[20:53] <Ntemis> tomreyn: oops sorry
[20:53] <dumle29> So I'm running 16.04 on my HP envy 13 and as soon as I plug in the charger, CPU performance plummets
[20:53] <SchrodingersScat> !uuid
[20:53] <dumle29> I can't even stream youtube propperly
[20:53] <Ntemis> :)
[20:53] <fakam_> how do you change the refresh rate on ubuntu/kubuntu
[20:53] <dumle29> Any ideas?
[20:53] <Ntemis> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23161164/
[20:53] <dumle29> It's runing a 6200U i5
[20:53] <Ntemis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23161164/ anyone?
[20:54] <apb1963> fakam_: Did I not just give you good info?
[20:54] <anonan> so, regarding my preseed/early_command problem, it seems like it never is executed. even when i make it run an infinite loop, the installation just continues regardless
[20:54] <fakam_> apb1963, I did not see it sorry :(
[20:54] <anonan> any ideas what i could be doing wrong? is preseed/early_command maybe not functional in ubuntu?
[20:55] <dreamscape_> SchrodingersScat that hasn't worked
[20:55] <sud3sk> whois
[20:55] <fakam_> apb1963, reading it now
[20:56] <SchrodingersScat> !details | dreamscape_
[20:56] <fakam_> apb1963, sudo nvidia-xconfig  command not found
[20:56] <SchrodingersScat> dreamscape_: what are you trying and what isn't working?
[20:57] <dreamscape_> Ok, I have 3 partitons, OS, DATA and Swap.. all are mounted apart from DATA i used to just double click it on the desktop to mount it but i've removed the gui now as my little atom machine was struggling. now i cannot mount my drive I'd like it to automatically mount at startup the device is sda5
[20:59] <Ntemis> also i have thousand of Sep 10 21:30:46 demetris-HP-510 ureadahead[667]: ureadahead:2425/cmdline: Ignored relative path
[20:59] <SchrodingersScat> dreamscape_: and so you have something like /dev/sda5 /media/username/DATA ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1   in your fstab then restarted and it wasn't in /media/username/DATA/ ?
[21:00] <dreamscape_> i put it what you typed, copied it over, rebooted and the drive wasn't mounted as i couldn't access it via network share, however the text was still in the file when i checked
[21:01] <dreamscape_> the file system is ntfs is that makes any differnce
[21:01] <k1l> dreamscape_: put it into the fstab to get it mounted
[21:02] <dreamscape_> I did
[21:02] <dreamscape_> it didn't mount when i rebooted
[21:02] <k1l> dreamscape_: sudo mount -a
[21:02] <SchrodingersScat> dreamscape_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab#ntfs I'm limited in my experience with ntfs, but this has an example anyway
[21:03] <dreamscape_> so /dev/sda2 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 ?
[21:04] <SchrodingersScat> thought you were working with sda5, but that looks like worth a shot
[21:04] <dreamscape_> oops, yeah sda5
[21:04] <SchrodingersScat> !backups | dreamscape_ and it's never a bad time to have robust backups
[21:05] <dreamscape_> I don't have anything to put backups onto
[21:05] <fakam_> how do i know whether i have the nvidia drivers I need to make my games use nvidia and not the intel(builtin)?
[21:06] <dreamscape_> ooooo k
[21:06] <dreamscape_> its not even booting now
[21:06] <tomreyn> fakam_: glxinfo (on a terminal)
[21:07] <tomreyn> fakam_: there is most likely a better way which i just don't know
[21:07] <fakam_> tomreyn, zsh command not found?
[21:07] <fakam_> should I exit zsh?
[21:07] <k1l> fakam_: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[21:07] <tomreyn> fakam_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[21:08] <tomreyn> fakam_: k1l's suggestion is better
[21:08] <fakam_> ok
[21:08] <systest> Does anyone know how to get dnsmasq to report which upstream DNS servers it's using?  "nmcli devices show" will list info but it's not clear if that's what network manager told  dnsmasq to use or if it's asking dnsmasq for the info
[21:08] <fakam_> k1l, Kernel driver in use: i915_bpo
[21:09] <tomreyn> i as in intel
[21:09] <k1l> fakam_: that is the intel.
[21:09] <fakam_> I want to use the nvidia gaming card for games.
[21:09] <mike7390> bonsoir je cherche un peu d aide pour un prob de son sure ubuntu version 16.04
[21:09] <k1l> fakam_: can you show the output url of "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:09] <fakam_> k1l, yes
[21:10] <k1l> mike7390: english in here or #ubuntu-fr for french
[21:10] <tomreyn> !fr > mike7390
[21:10] <fakam_> k1l, Use netcat. it says
[21:10] <mike7390> thanks for the information
[21:11] <tomreyn> de rien
[21:11] <k1l> fakam_: can you show the output url of "dpkg -l nvidia* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:12] <fakam_> i did
[21:12] <fakam_> it says use netcat
[21:12] <k1l> fakam_: i changed the command
[21:12] <fakam_> ok let me try
[21:12] <fakam_> k1l, http://termbin.com/rbfv
[21:13] <nexus66> hi
[21:13] <fakam_> hello
[21:13] <k1l> fakam_: so go to your system settings -> softwrae and updates, and then there to the last tab and install the prop. nvidia driver
[21:14] <tomreyn> ...or just use the open source one you already have
[21:14] <fakam> k1l, I'm on Kubuntu and can't find that, as if I was on ubuntu.
[21:14] <k1l> ahhh, dont know where kde hides that prop. driver menue
[21:14] <k1l> maybe #kubuntu knows
[21:14] <fakam> I asked :(
[21:14] <fakam> and searched.
[21:16] <dreamscape_> doesn't work - /dev/sda2 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[21:16] <dreamscape_> sda5*
[21:16] <dreamscape_> this is crazy
[21:17] <Drew__> Keep getting connectivity error when trying to upgrade Ubuntu
[21:17] <tomreyn> fakam: software-properties-kde
[21:17] <fakam> maybe I should just install ubuntu lol but i hate unity
[21:18] <fakam> tomreyn, thanks
[21:18] <k1l> fakam: "sudo ubuntu-drivers list"
[21:18] <Ntemis> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23161164/
[21:19] <fakam> k1l, nvidia-361
[21:19] <tomreyn> dreamscape_: can you mount it manually? IIRC it's just "ntfs" now, not "ntfs-3g"
[21:19] <k1l> fakam: "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"
[21:19] <dreamscape_> don't worry i got it :) i wa trying to access it via share but the mount point had changed from my user name to "windows"
[21:19] <tomreyn> Ntemis: what do you want me to do with this?
[21:19] <fakam> installing...
[21:20] <dreamscape_> updated the directory in samba and it's working now
[21:20] <dreamscape_> thanks for the help people
[21:20] <fakam> thank you guys btw, for sitting in here dealing with us lol
[21:20] <Ntemis> make breakfast
[21:20] <natmal> sudo make breakfast
[21:20] <tomreyn> Ntemis: make: *** No rule to make target 'breakfast'.  Stop.
[21:21] <Ntemis> make bacon
[21:22] <fakam> ok k1l it's done, it had be disable uefi, so i guess I should reboot?
[21:22] <k1l> yes
[21:22] <fakam> ok wish me luck, brb.
[21:25] <fakam> k1l, finished, how do I check whether it was all well?
[21:25] <k1l> fakam_: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[21:25] <fakam> :( Kernel driver in use: i915_bpo
[21:26] <fakam> intel still ugh
[21:26] <natmal> I don't suppose anyone can help me figure out why unattended-upgrade isn't sending emails, even though it's configured to do so?
[21:27] <miriam> hey guys! I have two propietary driver, wich one do I have to install? The first is "NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.131 from nvidia-304 (propietary, tested)" the second is "NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.131 from nvidia-304-updates (propietary)"
[21:27] <fakam> i use propietary
[21:28] <Capum321> hello
[21:28] <Capum321> i am trying to schedule a sleep after idle, with rtcwake, so it wakes after some time with this bash script https://paste.linux.community/view/b4ff90d8   what I do now to make it work automatically?
[21:28] <fakam> when i had ubuntu
[21:28] <miriam> ok, but witch one of the two drivers fakam
[21:28] <miriam> ?
[21:28] <k1l> miriam: use the tested one.
[21:28] <fakam> miriam,  tested
[21:29] <fakam> k1l,  I guess I'm doomed, will I have more luck with Ubuntu?
[21:29] <fakam> or is it because of secure boot uefi
[21:29] <k1l> fakam: that doesnt make any difference. i just dont know where kde hides all that easy gui menus. but as i said: #kubuntu will know
[21:30] <fakam> k1l, thanks
[21:30] <miriam> thank you kil
[21:39] <apb1963> miriam: How did you get to that question?  What command did you run to get where you were when you came in here?
[21:39] <blackdrake> hi any ubuntu developer here.
[21:39] <blackdrake> ?
[21:40] <k1l> blackdrake: what is the issue?
[21:40] <miriam> I just opened software & updates >> additional drivers
[21:40] <apb1963> miriam: kde or unity?
[21:41] <\9> !ask | blackdrake
[21:41] <blackdrake> k1l: I wanna develop some apps for ubuntu, need your help.
[21:42] <miriam> apb1963: no question. The tick was already in the nouveau driver but the sensor indicator of mate is showing me high temperatures so I thought that maybe it was drivers' fault.
[21:42] <blackdrake> I dunno where to start, please help me with some links
[21:42] <apb1963> miriam: ok, thank you.
[21:42] <lordcirth> blackdrake, writing programs for Linux is not Ubuntu-specific
[21:42] <k1l> blackdrake: see https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/
[21:43] <Bashing-om> apb1963: I back on ... ya ready to start again ? Here in a bit though I got to take a pause for a short short .
[21:43] <blackdrake> you are rite lordcirth:
[21:43] <blackdrake> thanks k1l
[21:45] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I was going to run and get some lunch but.... hey I realized after you left last night that it was simply booting the disk in order of the BIOS
[21:45] <apb1963> Bashing-om: So I re-ordered the disks in the BIOS and voila!  16.04 disappeared off the menu.
[21:46] <apb1963> Bashing-om: leaving 14.04.{4,5}
[21:46] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Well we want to boot sda as the 1st priority in bios order . - then once sda is fine, we repair the other 2 drive's grubs .
[21:47] <apb1963> Bashing-om: So .5 boots
[21:47] <apb1963> Bashing-om: And I fixed the desktop with the help of #kubuntu and #kde
[21:48] <Bashing-om> apb1963: So we are done with sda 14.04 .. and moving on ?
[21:48] <apb1963> Bashing-om: It was a simple matter of right clicking on the background and selecting "folder view" instead of the default view.  Voila!  Desktop icons restored.  Then I added a new default panel...
[21:48] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I think so
[21:49] <Fendaris> is it possible that in ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa you get less options to install drivers with ubuntu 15.04 than with 16.04?
[21:50] <apb1963> Bashing-om: 16.04 won't boot... get a black screen and freeze
[21:50] <Fendaris> it only shows me up to 352 with ubuntu 15.04, and I installed 670 on 16.04 earlier
[21:50] <Fendaris> nomodeset apb?
[21:50] <apb1963> Bashing-om: And in fact.... to get to it at all, I have to go through the BIOS and select it.  Kind of odd.
[21:51] <apb1963> Fendaris: Not yet... Didn't get a chance.
[21:51] <Fendaris> i can boot fine with nomodeset, cant without, black screens etc
[21:51] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Let's leave the control 16.04 to last .. where is 12.04 installed to ? my memory is failing me .
[21:51] <Fendaris> before installing the right drivers
[21:52] <k1l> Fendaris: ubuntu 15.04 is dead. dont use that anymore
[21:54] <Fendaris> 16.04 is not compatible with cuda 7.5
[21:54] <k1l> Fendaris: ubuntu 15.04 is dead. you dont get any security or bugfix updates. and the repos will be shut down.
[21:55] <Fendaris> that doesnt solve any of my problems kil
[21:55] <k1l> Fendaris: 15.04 doesnt solve any of your problems, right. because its not a solution. so what is the issue now exactly on 16.04?
[21:55] <apb1963> Bashing-om: checking
[21:56] <Fendaris> it is, it is compatible with cuda 7.5
[21:56] <Fendaris> https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads
[21:56] <Fendaris> the issue is that 16.04 is not compatible with cuda, and my multiple attempts of getting it to run failed, and ultimately killed my installation anyway
[21:56] <OerHeks> !info nvidia-cuda-toolkit
[21:56] <k1l> Fendaris: we dont support 15.04 anymore. so i dont know what you are talking now in here about 15.04.
[21:57] <Fendaris> You dont support the gtx1080 anyway
[21:58] <k1l> !info libcudart7.5
[21:58] <Fendaris> ubuntu is so out of date with regards to that that nothing you have to do to get those things running is supported in any full combination, kil
[21:58] <Fendaris> only subpackages
[21:58] <Fendaris> it s like gpu > 600$? go home
[21:58] <Bashing-om> Fendaris: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/106780/en-us >> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .
[21:58] <OerHeks> .. 16.04 is an LTS, aims on stable, and you have the latest hardware. please rant on..
[21:59] <k1l> Fendaris: ok. if you want to run unsupported ubuntu there is no sense in just ranting in here. bye
[21:59] <Fendaris> i already installed all the drivers on 16.04 Bashing
[21:59] <Fendaris> using it directly from the homepage didnt work, but it worked with ppa s
[21:59] <Fendaris> I just curiously found out that if I access the same ppa, i dont get the same install options with 16.04 and 15.04, I m still learning my way aroudn
[22:00] <k1l> Fendaris: because PPAs dont offer the same packages for every release.
[22:00] <OerHeks> why should ppa maintainers support EOL packages? lolz
[22:00] <Fendaris> yes that s what i learned now
[22:00] <k1l> Fendaris: and since 15.04 is dead there will be no new packages anyway
[22:00] <Fendaris> imo it would be nice if nvidia would bring cuda 7.5 up to 16.04. But tensorflow says you are supposed to use 7.5, while nvidia seems to want to bring 8.0 to 16.04
[22:01] <OerHeks> my best guess it will be in 16.10 nxt month
[22:01] <Fendaris> there are only packages for 15.04 and 14.04
[22:01] <Fendaris> maybe they only do .04?
[22:02] <OerHeks> 16.04 is lts so don't get exited
[22:02] <k1l> just 2 minutes ago you insulted us because ubuntu only supports old packages. now you demand even older packages?
[22:02] <Fendaris> Kil, you are just judging without knowing what I m trying to do anyway.
[22:02] <Fendaris> I ve been at this for 20 hours or so, so tried multiple combinations by now
[22:02] <OerHeks> do we need to know if it is unsupported?
[22:03] <Fendaris> As I said GPU > $600 - unsupported
[22:03] <Fendaris> gtx1080 drivers are only in that ppa
[22:03] <k1l> i guess you have a "i want ubuntu to ship only the right packages for me" issue. which is quite difficult to do that for every user at the same time.
[22:03] <apb1963> Bashing-om: ok I'm not sure.  sdb1 is labled 12.04 but I'm pretty sure that's where I put 16.04.... so that leaves sdc1... but I'm not sure that's right.  I'm looking at it with gparted... I forgot what we looked at yesterday to figure it out.
[22:04] <Fendaris> Kil, would you allow me to focus on the solution intead of a philosophical package discussion?
[22:04] <k1l> Fendaris: which is no news, since a) the latest nvidia cards get linux support some time afterwards and b) ubuntu 16.05 is from april this year. and the package version freeze was even before april.
[22:05] <Fendaris> If you say "it is difficult to support a driver for the gtx1080, which lots of people now have" then I have no opinion on that and am not involved in the process anyway
[22:05] <k1l> Fendaris: i asked you about facts right on the start where you started your teaching of how less i know.
[22:05] <apb1963> Bashing-om: yeah yeah.. it is right.  I have it mounted on /mnt/d which confused me... but looking at it... yeah, it's a root.
[22:05] <Fendaris> the driver also works fine with the ppa on 16.04.
[22:05] <k1l> Fendaris: so a "hi, i use 16.04 and i need package X in version Y".
[22:06] <k1l> *would help
[22:06] <Fendaris> I cam here to verify that I m not having hallucinations and that the driver that is available for 16.04 is really not available for 15.04
[22:06] <Fendaris> Now I need to figure out what to try next ^^
[22:07] <Fendaris> probably install 16.04 again later
[22:07] <tomreyn> Fendaris: next, you need to upgrade, to a supported ubuntu release
[22:07] <Fendaris> Tomreyn, but there is no fully supported solution :/
[22:07] <tomreyn> Fendaris: whats lacking, what's the problem you are trying to solve?
[22:08] <apb1963> Fendaris: What is your goal?  Are there any constraints to that goal?
[22:08] <tomreyn> Fendaris: oh you're the cuda person from yesterday, please forget i asked.
[22:08] <Fendaris> Yes, I am trying to install Cuda
[22:08] <Fendaris> 7.5
[22:09] <Fendaris> and the gtx1080 drivers at the same time
[22:09] <Fendaris> I have the gtx1080 driver working in 16.04, and cuda in 15.04
[22:09] <Fendaris> so will probably try cuda in 16.04 again
[22:10] <k1l> Fendaris: and you are sure cuda 7.5 is supported by the latest nvidia drivers supporting that card?
[22:10] <Fendaris> Yes
[22:10] <tomreyn> Fendaris: why dont you just install nvidia-cuda-toolkit on 16.04 as i suggested last night?
[22:10] <Fendaris> I did
[22:10] <tomreyn> but?
[22:10] <Fendaris> lots of different errors, ultimately killed the 16.04 installation, so I checked out the older linux distributions, because they are listed on the nvidia page
[22:10] <Fendaris> I know it s possible to get 7.5 running on 16.4
[22:11] <Fendaris> Another problem I had was that if I install it with that apt-get program... I cant choose the installation destination? And I wanted to put it in the suggested installation folder /usr/local/cuda/
[22:12] <Fendaris> but it s a nice learning experience, the old ubuntu versions, too
[22:12] <apb1963> Bashing-om: You gone?
[22:12] <Fendaris> is it possible to just upgrade 15.04 to 16.04 or do I have to do a fresh installation?
[22:13] <tomreyn> !dirs | Fendaris
[22:13] <k1l> Fendaris: 15.04 -> 15-10 -> 16.04
[22:13] <Fendaris> Service Temporarily Unavailable
[22:14] <tomreyn> it wont take long, probably just a quick maintenance. use google cache or archive.today
[22:14] <apb1963> Bashing-om: OK I need to grab a bite back in about 30 or so.
[22:15] <Fendaris> brb trying the upgrade manager
[22:16] <tomreyn> Fendaris: the wiki is now available
[22:16] <tomreyn> i mean help.ubuntu.com is
[22:17] <Fendaris> I dont really understand why the partition tool during the installations doesnt offer ntfs
[22:17] <Fendaris> the text i read sound like it can do ntfs, but it s not offered as an option for partitioning
[22:17] <OerHeks> ntfs is not posix.
[22:18] <Fendaris> hm could i
[22:18] <k1l> you cant use ntfs to install ubuntu on
[22:18] <Fendaris> install cuda now with 15.04... and then upgrade to 16.04 but keep cuda_
[22:18] <Fendaris> ?
[22:19] <OerHeks> can you install anything now :-D
[22:19] <OerHeks> please there is no escape, go for 16.04.
[22:20] <Fendaris> but does it stay? ^^ the upgrade manager just told me it s deleting a lot of incompatible packages ^^
[22:20] <Fendaris> hey, I don't mind 16.04. I liked it best xD
[22:20] <Fendaris> every version lower was giving me more and more problems during installation ^^
[22:20] <Fendaris> 15.04 cant handle my wlan device
[22:20] <Fendaris> and 14.04 cant handle my cable device either
[22:25] <Fendaris> probably faster just to install 16.04 directly instead of waiting through two updates
[22:25] <Fendaris> gonna do that.  brb
[22:25] <veep> Having trouble getting touchegg to work in a MBP.  I've changed using "synclient TapButton2=0" and all that but can't seem to get it to work.  It just doesn't respond.  However the Ubuntu stock gestures work.  4fingers brings up dash.  3 finger double click then hold brings up switcher
[22:25] <Fendaris> and then try with cuda 8
[22:26] <veep> installed the touchegg GUI
[22:26] <kus> oh wow screen is pretty cool
[22:27] <veep> anyone know how Id be able to get touchegg working to customize the 3/4 finger gestures?
[22:27] <kungr>  Anyone currently using remastersys? Or imaging there install? I bork my install quite a bit and want a streamlined method for re-install
[22:34] <Capum321> i am trying to schedule a sleep after idle, with rtcwake, so it wakes after some time with this bash script https://paste.linux.community/view/b4ff90d8   what I do now to make it work automatically?
[22:46] <fakam> how do you check which video card is in use?
[22:47] <kogmo> inxi - G
[22:47] <devise> like little bitches
[22:47] <devise> lol
[22:47] <devise> suck my dick
[22:48] <fakam> kogmo, command not found
[22:48] <kogmo> sudo apt install inxi
[22:49] <fakam> PU~Dual core Intel Core i5-6200U (-HT-MCP-) speed/max~470/2800 MHz Kernel~4.4.0-36-generic x86_64 Up~19 min Mem~1324.5/11929.2MB HDD~1000.2GB(4.6% used) Procs~229 Client~Shell inxi~2.2.35
[22:50] <Bashing-om> fakam:  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'  : wuick and only that point .
[22:50] <fakam> ty
[22:50] <fakam> ugh still the intel, even after driver manager says nvidia is selected.
[22:51] <fakam> been working on this all day.
[22:51] <warren_> hi I set up a wireless access point using ubuntu mate 16.04, where can I find information on the devices connected to my ap?
[22:51] <Guy1524> hey guys, whenever I plug my headphones w/ mic in, it uses my headphone's broken mic and there is no option to use built in speakers unless I unplug the headphone I wish to use
[22:52] <fakam> welcome to linux.
[22:52] <Bashing-om> fakam: nvidia-prime installed ? what does nvidia-setting have for switching ? . gotta log out/in for the switch to happen .
[22:53] <kogmo> I think you can manually select that in sound settings
[22:53] <fakam> i don't have  nvidia-prime i guess sudo apt-get install
[22:53] <fakam> nm  nvidia-prime is installed
[22:54] <fakam> nvidia-prime is already the newest version (0.8.2).
[22:54] <Bashing-om> fakam: Are you certain that you have nvidia card .., and the correct version driver ... as now it is expected when the driver is installed, nvidia-prime also installs .
[22:54] <fakam> Bashing-om, i did logout after selecting nvidia in driver screen
[22:54] <fakam> but it keeps showing intel as in use.
[22:55] <harishkrupo> my keyboards right alt is mapped to ISO_SHIFT_3 how can i reset it?
[22:55] <fakam> yes i have an nvidia sticker on my lappy lol
[22:56] <Bashing-om> fakam: driver conflict perhaps ? what returns ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' on a pastebin . see what is installed .
[22:57] <fakam> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/Nkf43juq
[22:58] <z00m_> someone had tried DUO authentication for local user, not ssh , the ssh work fine I can't start with 2fa
[23:00] <harishkrupo> quit
[23:00] <Bashing-om> fakam: Hummm .. it is all there .. should have no problem .. At this point I just do not know . Maybe take a read and see what X thinks ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' See if the system reports a problem .
[23:01] <fakam> Bashing-om, i can play games and they look fine i just get a bad flicker.
[23:03] <fakam> linux destroyed this saturday lol, time for like 5 beers, thanks for the help.
[23:07] <veep> touchegg help anyone?
[23:08] <Bashing-om> fakam: well .. maybe look at the hardware .. see if Nvidia reommends a different driver for the hardware . lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'
[23:29] <Adit> Hello. I was trying to upgrade from 15.04 to 16.04 but I had a power failure midway and now, I get this when I try booting up: http://i.imgur.com/T4l60qO.jpg
[23:30] <Fendarisx> Why is this not working? "tar cudnn-8.0-linux-x64-v5.1.tgz" tar: Old option 'g' requires an argument.
[23:32] <fluxbox-5235> Hi guys quick question is SLiM display manager still compatible with ubuntu 16.04?
[23:32] <minitrue> lock
[23:32] <minitrue> sorry wrong channel
[23:32] <Bashing-om> Adit: Try running a file system check/repair from the liveDVD .
[23:34] <apb1963> Bashing-om: ok sorry sorry... took longer than expected.
[23:35] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Not too worried .. We onto 12,04, right ? where is it installed too ?
[23:36] <cxki> does anyone know why htop, top and ps won't show root processes?
[23:36] <apb1963> Bashing-om: sdc1
[23:37] <Bashing-om> apb1963: K; sdc1 .. then we reboot, set the boot priority to the 3rd drive as 1st priority . see if 12.04 boots .
[23:38] <apb1963> Bashing-om: it does... with problems
[23:38] <warren_> *crying
[23:38] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Well, we know this drill, huh .,. We fix the problems ... then fix grub .
[23:43] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I booted something... I don't know what version it is
[23:43] <apb1963> but it looks very Unity like
[23:43] <apb1963> and seems 16.04 ish
[23:44] <apb1963> I guess I'll try another disk.  That was the WDC
[23:44] <Adit> Bashing-om: I tried fsck and got this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/23161833/
[23:44] <Bashing-om> apb1963: lsb_release -a will tell .
[23:45] <apb1963> 16.04.1
[23:46] <Bashing-om> Adit: sudo needed . run: ' sudo fdisk -lu ' to identify the ext4 (/) root partition .. then ' sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/sda1 " change sda1 to the correct target .
[23:47] <Fendarisx> Sorry, I've got a folder question: "chmod: cannot access '/usr/local/cuda/include/cudnn.h': Not a directory
[23:47] <Fendarisx> " .. but I think I have a directory like that, which I see here?
[23:47] <Fendarisx> with that file inside?
[23:47] <Fendarisx> sudo chmod a+r /usr/local/cuda/include/cudnn.h /usr/local/cuda/lib64/libcudnn*
[23:47] <apb1963> Bashing-om: ok it's on the toshiba
[23:47] <Bashing-om> apb1963: K; sdc1 then is 16.04 install .. try the 2nd hard drive .. as 12,04 is next on the list .
[23:48] <apb1963> Bashing-om: no...
[23:48] <Adit> Bashing-om: /dev/sda3: clean, 507323/13885440 files, 45926491/55538176 blocks
[23:48] <Bashing-om> apb1963: run again the boot-repair script from 14.04 .. we see what is where for sure .
[23:49] <apb1963> Bashing-om: first... I don't need this partition to boot.  I only need it for data files
[23:49] <apb1963> Bashing-om: second... ok, I'll run the script...   where is it again?
[23:50] <Bashing-om> apb1963: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair .
[23:50] <Fendarisx> figured it out
[23:51] <Bashing-om> Adit: And sda3 is where the booting root system is ? Then if so .. what now when you boot it ?
[23:51] <Adit> Bashing-om: I'll be back in a second
[23:53] <cef_admin> hello
[23:53] <apb1963> Bashing-om: for the record.. that's the first time I've seen that page.  Instead of doing all that, I opened a console window and it's on sdc1
[23:54] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Did you not just advise that sdc1 is 16.04 ?
[23:55] <apb1963> Bashing-om: no
[23:55] <apb1963> [16:54] <apb1963> Bashing-om: ok it's on the toshiba
[23:55] <apb1963> [16:55] <Bashing-om> apb1963: K; sdc1 then is 16.04 install .. try the 2nd hard drive .. as 12,04 is next on the list .
[23:55] <apb1963> [16:55] <apb1963> Bashing-om: no...
[23:56] <Bashing-om> apb1963: K, well then boot sdc and we see what is and what we have to do .
[23:57] <apb1963> Bashing-om: it's 12.04.4 ... and I don't need it to boot.  However, it brings up the GUI but can't find /home so I can't login.  Again... I don't need it to boot.  it's old, I only keep it around in case there is data I forgot about.
[23:58] <Bashing-om> apb1963: well we got to remove grub from it .. else the 16.04 control grub is going to be nuts .
[23:59] <apb1963> Bashing-om: oh oh oh...  both / and /home are mounted on sdc1