[00:00] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I'm all for removing grub from it
[00:00] <natmal> Could someone please help me figure out why unattended-upgrade isn't sending emails, even though it's configured to do so, and it seems to be applying updates correctly?
[00:00] <apb1963> natmal: does your system send mail otherwise?
[00:00] <Bashing-om> apb1963: so does it boot to a terminal .. or we got to access that file system from another means ?
[00:01] <apb1963> Bashing-om: It boots to a GUI login... but I can pop a console from there.
[00:02] <apb1963> natmal: what happens if you do 'echo test | mail YourKnownWorkingEmailAddressHere' ?
[00:02] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Boot to grub . 'e' key for edit mode , replace "quiet splash" with "text' ctl+x to continue the boot process to TTY1 .
[00:04] <Adit> Bashing-om: Tried rebooting. It's still the same
[00:05] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I'm not getting the quiet splash and what not... I think I'm looking at something different than you were expecting.  It's got "set params" at the top.
[00:06] <Bashing-om> Adit: Want to run a system update from the full CHange Root environment ?
[00:07] <Bashing-om> apb1963: you see " linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-24-generic root=UUID=dbd69ed2-530c-4409-8f5a-a3f1ea41fc67 ro quiet splash $vt_handoff " <-linux kernel boot line ?
[00:08] <prettyinsiders> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlBA2zp992c
[00:08] <Adit> Bashing-om: I am still a newbie so, the easiest situation that doesn't involve data loss would be nice
[00:08] <prettyinsiders> "Did the Holocaust Really Happen?"
[00:10] <Bashing-om> Adit: In a situation you are in .. a fresh clean install is that easyist solution . However . that is also the means of last resort .
[00:10] <porkstore> do you guys think i'm likely to screw something up that will take an hour to fix
[00:10] <porkstore> if i try to set nemo as my default file manager in gnome-throwback / ubuntu
[00:12] <Adit> Bashing-om: This might sound silly but: Is there a way to change install ubuntu without formatting?
[00:12] <apb1963> Bashing-om: found it... booting... hanging on network.... will time out eventually.
[00:13] <Bashing-om> Adit: ^ That is not to say if you are willing to put in the time and effort we can not salvage this system . too early to call . but will take some effort on your part . and the learning curve may get steep .
[00:13] <apb1963> Bashing-om: ok, logged in at console.
[00:14] <Adit> Bashing-om: I think I'll just do a fresh install. Thanks for all the help :)
[00:15] <Bashing-om> Adit: No silly qustion at all .. IF you had of installed with /home pn separate parttion .. for sure .. if /home is a part of '/' not real sure . It "might" be possible. I have never been there so I can not confirm with my own experience .
[00:16] <Bashing-om>  apb1963 K ' lsb-release-a ' confirms that it is 12.04 ? ,, and for sure you will never ever want to boot this system again ??
[00:18] <apb1963> Bashing-om: Yes it is 12.04 and your question sounds ominous.  As far as I know, I don't need it to be any better than it is now.  However, I do not want to make it worse.. i.e. by deleting it or making it totally unbootable somehow.
[00:19] <krugerand7> irc.what-network.net
[00:21] <glitchd> anyone have any insight as to how i would go about tracing a certain text color in the software center back through to the grkrc file to change it?
[00:21] <geeky_boy> hi i want to install oracle-xe but cannot start procps. any help?
[00:21] <Bashing-om> apb1963: With 16.04 as the controlling boot method we only have 2 options . 1) fix 12.04 . 2) remove grub from 12.04 .. and in removong grub you will not be able to boot it . Now if you do not want this system . why not copy off your data, make up a shared data partiton ?
[00:22] <geeky_boy>  sudo service procps start procps stop/waiting
[00:23] <apb1963> Bashing-om: Because I don't know what data I need - if any - and it will take time to figure it out.  Time I really don't want to spend on that right now.
[00:23] <cxki> does anyone know why htop, top and ps won't show root processes?
[00:24] <apb1963> Bashing-om: can grub not be replaced at some future point should it prove necessary to boot OS?
[00:24] <apb1963> s/OS/that OS/
[00:26] <bumblefuzz> if I imported a key, then why am I still getting the output 'there is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner' after verifying a file with it?
[00:26] <apb1963> bumblefuzz: Supply more context.  Too vague.
[00:26] <bumblefuzz> ummm, I imported a key
[00:27] <apb1963> How?
[00:27] <bumblefuzz> then ran gpg --verify sha256sum.txt.gpg sha256sum.txt
[00:27] <geeky_boy> anyone?
[00:27] <bumblefuzz> gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-key "blah blah blah"
[00:28] <apb1963> bumblefuzz: not my cup of tea but at least now you've provided a clue for someone to help you
[00:28] <bumblefuzz> and in the same message, it tells me Good signature from "key that I tried to import" and the next line There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner
[00:29] <bumblefuzz> fantastic
[00:31] <Bashing-om> apb1963: You are missing the point .. Multi-boot .. only one system can be the controll authority . Keep in mind that 12.04 goes EOL in a few months - not worth spending the time and effort on it !
[00:31] <apb1963> Bashing-om: that's exactly what I'm trying to say
[00:32] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I have no interest in booting it at this time.  I do however want to reserve the right to boot it at a later time for currently unknown reasons.  I do not expect to need it, but I cann't be absolutely certain until some future point in time.
[00:32] <glorias> Hi
[00:33] <cparman> Hi
[00:33] <glorias> TNT :-)
[00:33] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I do not want to spend the time fixing it to boot now, however I do not want it destroyed.  Is that more clear?
[00:33] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Then we remove grub from 12.04 .. so 16.04 does not see it . with 16.04 as the controll for 16.04, 14.04 and Winows XP booting.
[00:33] <cparman> I do not know what the means
[00:33] <apb1963> Bashing-om: ok
[00:34] <apb1963> Bashing-om: Ready when you are.
[00:35] <Bashing-om> apb1963: It is your system,. your time and effort .. you say what the goal is .. I am here to help and guide you to make it so . BUT you say what YOU want .
[00:35] <apb1963> Bashing-om: Remove grub today.  Reinstall grub some day down the road if I ever need to boot this disk again.
[00:36] <apb1963> Bashing-om: and by disk I mean OS.
[00:36] <Bashing-om> apb1963: K; we can do that .. remove grub from 12.04 . You are booted in 12.04's terminal at this time ?
[00:37] <glitchd> apb1963, alternatively, you could just change the timeout of grub..
[00:37] <apb1963> Bashing-om: yes
[00:37] <Awakened_> hello
[00:37] <Awakened_> I wonder if I could get any help about irc2p
[00:39] <JohnnyMonday> This Week in Ca-Caaw!
[00:40] <JohnnyMonday> Do these stripes make me look fat?
[00:41] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Remove grub : sudo apt-get remove --purge grub grub-pc grub-common ' . ' sudo rm /boot/grub/grub.cfg ' . When you reboot, will not be able to boot back in . Will take a liveDVD in a full CHange Root to re-install !
[01:07] <apb1963> so... reboot now?
[01:07] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Yepp .. into 16.04 as you can .
[01:09] <eurekarem> Hello all
[01:10] <eurekarem> Can someone please help me, I need immediate help as I'm in the middle of installing Ubuntu Desktop on the wrong drive!?
[01:10] <apb1963> Bashing-om: back in 5... need to make a pitstop
[01:11] <eurekarem> Anyone?
[01:11] <Bashing-om> !testdisk | eurekarem
[01:11] <eurekarem> Is there some way to revert the changes?
[01:11] <eurekarem> to recover partitions?
[01:12] <eurekarem> So no there is not a way to revert...?
[01:12] <Bashing-om> eurekarem: Yeah, but not easy ! http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step .
[01:12] <eurekarem> Ok, thanks...
[01:12] <skypce> hey guys
[01:13] <skypce> can you helpme i need do a shortcut for playonlinux
[01:13] <skypce> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7856088164d106994bf3a75a286aff4c
[01:13] <skypce> it is for use all cores of my pc
[01:13] <skypce> in fl studio
[01:13] <skypce> works very fine throught playonlinux shell
[01:13] <skypce> but i want create a shortcut
[01:13] <tolentek> You need software to recovery your files, but it is very likely that you lost your files.
[01:13] <skypce> for more confort
[01:14] <eurekarem> Thanks <tolentek>
[01:15] <cpt-oblivious> what the hell happened with ubuntu 16.04
[01:15] <cpt-oblivious> I decided to upgrade my random virtual machine from 14.04 to 16.04, booting now takes 30 seconds instead of 2 secods
[01:15] <cpt-oblivious> audio is broken
[01:15] <cpt-oblivious> wtf
[01:15] <cpt-oblivious> have to run 'killall pulseaudio' before audio works...
[01:18] <apb1963> Bashing-om: ok it's booted
[01:19] <Bashing-om> apb1963: K; and all at this point looks good ? All we need to do is to update grub in 16.04 ???
[01:20] <apb1963> Bashing-om: well... I'm not sure about that grub menu.  16.04 isn't actually listed, it just says "ubuntu".  the other two partitions are listed though.
[01:21] <apb1963> Bashing-om: and it's not KDE :)
[01:22] <Bashing-om> apb1963: They will be til we have grub run through and do a redo ' sudo update-grub ' Might be enough to get the job done .
[01:22] <apb1963> so... is that what I should do now?
[01:23] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Yeah . might be all we need at this point .
[01:23] <apb1963> so just sudo update-grub ?
[01:23] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Yeah .
[01:24] <apb1963> ok, no errors
[01:25] <Bashing-om> apb1963: reboot onto 16.04 .. see what grub now lists for the boot options .
[01:26] <apb1963> Bashing-om: kernel panic
[01:28] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Huh ? Totally not expecxted . OK .. boot up the 16.04 installer and we re-install grub for 16.04 .
[01:29] <apb1963> Bashing-om: seems to be trying to boot 3.2 kernel "Not tainted"
[01:30] <Bashing-om> apb1963: 3.2 kernel should be a thing of the past . Why we " update-grub " to overwrite that old config file .
[01:31] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic | apb1963
[01:34] <apb1963> Bashing-om: so.... I did the "Try Ubuntu"... and now I'm sitting at a black screen.
[01:35] <omsai> Hi folks!  I've just upgraded my Ubuntu 14.04 LTS to 16.04.  However all my network interfaces are down.  How is networking intended to be managed in 16.04 by default?  Using NetworkManager?  I never paid attention how it was done in 14.04 since I only occasionally use the computer.
[01:35] <Bashing-om> apb1963: And you have booted "try ubuntu " before with no problem ?
[01:35] <apb1963> Bashing-om: yes
[01:35] <omsai> `nmcli d` says that NetworkManager is not running, and I don't know how systemd on Ubuntu is typically setup.
[01:35] <omsai> for networking
[01:36] <apb1963> Bashing-om: by the way...  after I did the update-grub there was nothing in /boot/grub
[01:37] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Well. beats me .. try a cold boot . Compete shut down .. and power back up with the DVD as 1st boot priority in bios .
[01:39] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Humm .. that /boot/grub/ directory should have lots and lots of files in it !
[01:42] <omsai> Ah, I booted a LiveUSB and see that 16.04 uses NetworkManager.  So I'll play around and setup the service
[01:42] <mjulbe01> Hi. I just upgraded my HP 250 laptop to ubuntu 16.04 from 14.04 and lost my wifi. It has an internal ralink wifi card. I did have to do something to get it working when I installed 14.04 a long time ago but I can't find anything that works now. I tried both answers on http://askubuntu.com/questions/545238/how-to-install-wifi-driver-ralink-rt3290. Before trying the first, I had the enable wifi in the gui, but after, I don't even have 
[01:43] <omsai> mjulbe01: what is your output of `nmcli d`
[01:43] <mjulbe01> DEVICE      TYPE      STATE      CONNECTION     virbr0      bridge    connected  virbr0         eth0        ethernet  connected  Auto Ethernet  lo          loopback  unmanaged  --             virbr0-nic  tun       unmanaged  --
[01:44] <omsai> mjulbe01: and of `systemctl list-unit-files` when you scroll down to networking
[01:44] <omsai> hmm, it's not listing your wifi adapter
[01:44] <apb1963> Bashing-om: ok I took everything but the USB off the boot device list.  When the Try Ubuntu menu came up, I added networking.  I'm booted.
[01:45] <omsai> mjulbe01: Presumably you have networking over ethernet?
[01:45] <mjulbe01> I ran the wireless script the results are at http://paste.ubuntu.com/23162215/
[01:46] <mjulbe01> I have ethernet plugged in at the moment because I can't get the wifi working
[01:47] <mjulbe01> omsai, sorry, I'm new to IRC. forgot to cite your name in my reply. I ran the ubuntu wireless script and the results are at http://paste.ubuntu.com/23162215/
[01:47] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I have a terminal
[01:48] <omsai> mjulbe01: No worries.  It's good that the eno1 interface is listed in your paste.  What do you see from `nmcli r`
[01:49] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I have an /etc/grub.d/ but no /etc/grub/
[01:49] <mjulbe01> omsai, nmcli r
[01:49] <omsai> mjulbe01: No output?
[01:50] <mjulbe01> omsai:sorry, it didn't copy... WIFI-HW  WIFI     WWAN-HW  WWAN     enabled  enabled  enabled  enabled
[01:50] <Bashing-om> apb1963: K; let's fimd pir target . on the liveUSB we miunt the install's partition . run ' sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt ; ls -al /mnt/ ' What are you set here to boot ? ( if this is even the booting partition of the 3 ) .
[01:50] <apb1963> Bashing-om: sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub grub-pc grub-common ??
[01:51] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Nope, not evem close . we find and mount the target 1st .
[01:53] <mjulbe01> omsai. Is there something i can do to undo what I did from the two answers i followed on the post at http://askubuntu.com/questions/545238/how-to-install-wifi-driver-ralink-rt3290 before i followed those instructions, I at least showed the eneble wifi option. it is gone completely now.
[01:53] <apb1963> Bashing-om: 3.2
[01:53] <omsai> mjulbe01: Yeah, I'm looking at the very bottom of your paste, about the messages from rt3290sta and the signature verification failing
[01:54] <Bashing-om> apb1963: We sure screwed that up .. removed grub from the wrong wrong wrong hard drive .
[01:55] <apb1963> Bashing-om: 4.4 is on sdb1
[01:56] <omsai> mjulbe01: So a similar problem was solved by adding HAS_NATIVE_WPA_SUPPLICANT here (https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1799445) and the complete instructions for ralink are here: (https://askubuntu.com/questions/253632/how-do-i-get-a-ralink-rt3290-wireless-card-working)
[01:56] <omsai> mjulbe01: see if that works for you
[01:56] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Remember when I asked 3 times for the location of 12.04 ? Even requested we run boot-repair to KNOW .
[01:56] <omsai> mjulbe01: the section of "official site guide"
[01:57] <mjulbe01> omsai. I'll give that a try now. thank you
[01:58] <cash> So my dell e4310 doesnt have /sys/devices/platform/dell-laptop/leds/dell\:\:kbd_backlight/brightness
[01:58] <apb1963> Bashing-om:
[01:58] <apb1963>  <Bashing-om> apb1963: K, well then boot sdc and we see what is and what we have to do .
[01:58] <cash> any idea where the kb backlight brightness control is?
[01:58] <apb1963> [17:04] <apb1963> Bashing-om: it's 12.04.4 ..
[02:00] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Cinfirm in my little mind that 16.04 is installed to where ?
[02:01] <mich> this OS is so useless....I'm switching to debian or fedora.... the bugs are never fixed
[02:01] <mich> I googled... and the same question is being asked since 2012.....lol
[02:02] <mich> last time I will ask ever....how do you turn off the (#@$#@Q$#@ screen saver?   can someone tell the developers to leave it off as default?!?
[02:02] <pragmaticus> like debian or fedora is bug-free :D
[02:02] <mich> adfasfdsf!!!!!!!
[02:02] <mich> do you think they are as stupid to leave the screensaver on ?
[02:03] <pragmaticus> have you tried windows?
[02:03] <omsai> cash: what are you interested in doing exactly?  Just echo'ing values to control your backlight level?
[02:03] <cash> omsai i want to turn on my keyboard backlight
[02:03] <cash> thanks for asking. It doesnt turn on :/
[02:03] <jennie_> helo
[02:03] <omsai> cash: ah, I see
[02:04] <cash> im on 16.04 idk why it doesnt turn on
[02:04] <omsai> cash: it used to work before?
[02:04] <cash> It did
[02:04] <cash> worked on other versions of linux.  I keep distribution jumping.  Now im back on a clean 16.04 install and i am sad it isnt working this time
[02:05] <mich> bite me, pragmoticusp
[02:05] <apb1963> Bashing-om: so 12.04 on sdc1 (3.2), 14.04 is on sda5 (3.13) and 16.04 (4.4) is on sdb1 ... its easy to get confused, no worries.  Hell...  I go back and reconfirm each time.
[02:05] <omsai> mich: language
[02:05] <mich> I'm just asking for a simple fix - there must be one?
[02:05] <glorias> mich auch
[02:06] <glorias> hi whats u problem?
[02:06] <glorias> if u are to stupid read rtfm - like me
[02:06] <glorias>  hmm
[02:06] <cantoo> i used wicd instead of network-manager.  thats because i need proof our router is as if in my room :D  i'm the md5sum guy.  we're getting platinum now !!!!  in repos
[02:06] <glorias> linux is build all files
[02:06] <apb1963> Bashing-om: oh... wait a minute... that doesn't sound right... a kernel that's greater on a lower version?
[02:06] <glorias> in system
[02:07] <glorias> if u are a newbe
[02:07] <glorias> take hmm 3 or 4 images
[02:07] <glorias> and than
[02:07] <glorias> start to read RTFM or
[02:07] <glorias> start u brain and  have fun?
[02:07] <Bashing-om> apb1963: K. and what is sdc2 and sdc3 ?
[02:07] <apb1963> Bashing-om: wait... 3.2 is less than 3.13... so it's good
[02:08] <cash> xset led 3 didnt work either for the backlight
[02:08] <pragmaticus> maybe your backlight is broken?
[02:09] <apb1963> Bashing-om: data storage
[02:09] <cash> pragmaticus
[02:09] <mich> pragmaticus and glorias sound like twins.... both with no brains
[02:09] <cash> it might be, but the caps lock key has a little LED in it and it works
[02:09] <cash> so i am not sure
[02:09] <mich> or maybe inbreds
[02:10] <cash> i was thinking it might be a hardware fault... but im not sure
[02:10] <cash> worked on other versions of linux
[02:10] <pragmaticus> can you check if it still works with other versions?
[02:11] <cash> pragmaticus would you suggest trying with a live cd
[02:11] <cash> it was working on fedora 24
[02:11] <cash> but fedora sucks with my print server and this is a work computer :)
[02:11] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Does it make sense then that we want to re-install grub to sdc1 for release 16.04 ?
[02:11] <cash> so back to ubuntu
[02:12] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I would expect it to be on sdb1
[02:13] <apb1963> Bashing-om: 12.04 on sdc1 (3.2), 14.04 is on sda5 (3.13) and 16.04 (4.4) is on sdb1
[02:14] <pragmaticus> cash: had a similar problem once, i dont remember how i fixed it exactly
[02:14] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Correcting my notes . sdb1 is 16.04, sdc1 was 12.04 for booting ??
[02:14] <pragmaticus> cash: are there different command line tools available for controlling the backlight?
[02:14] <pragmaticus> cash: u could test a few, and set a keybinding...
[02:15] <cash> hmm
[02:15] <cash> pragmaticus - you might be right that a live cd test is the way to go
[02:15] <cash> because this backlight has worked in the past
[02:15] <cash> it also doesnt turn on when the bios turns on
[02:15] <Bashing-om> apb1963: So we still have to remove grub 12.04 on sdc1 .. and then install grub for 16.04 on sdb1 . correct ?
[02:15] <cash> so idk - its a dell e3410
[02:15] <apb1963> Bashing-om: Well that's actually where I get confused because there seems to be a 12.04.4 and a 12.04.5  ... but don't ask me where they live.  I don't care about booting the oldest one anymore... which was the 12.04.4.  The 12.04.5 had been booting... somehow.. but I'm not worried about it.
[02:16] <apb1963> Bashing-om: ummm.... that appears to be logical
[02:16] <pragmaticus> cash - have to leave good luck, be enlightened,
[02:16] <cash> ok thanks!
[02:20] <apb1963> Bashing-om: so mount sdc1, chroot /mnt and update-grub  ??
[02:20] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Again, we must must must get grub right , in order for 16.04 to be that one controlling authority . There can be only one boot code installed per hard drive . Say on sdc there are 3 installs . in that event we get creative  such that the 16.04 grub does not get recursive entries and the kernel pamics cause it has bad bad directions ..
[02:20] <Bashing-om> pamics/panics*
[02:22] <apb1963> Bashing-om: waiting for instructions
[02:22] <fakam> clear
[02:22] <fakam> derp
[02:22] <Bashing-om> apb1963: We are not going to re-install grub for 16.04 until we have all the other grub's lined out .
[02:23] <Bashing-om> sparty: What is sdb2 ?
[02:23] <apb1963> Bashing-om:  12.04 on sdc1 (3.2), 14.04 is on sda5 (3.13) and 16.04 (4.4) is on sdb1
[02:23] <Bashing-om> apb1963: What is sdb2 ?
[02:25] <apb1963> Bashing-om: that appears to be my home partition
[02:25] <Bashing-om> apb1963: ^ /home for the 16.04 install ?
[02:27] <apb1963> Bashing-om: that's the plan... for all versions.
[02:27] <apb1963> Bashing-om: however it's not setup for 16.04, it doesn't get mounted
[02:30] <apb1963> Bashing-om: at least I don't think it does.  Not sure, haven't been in 16 .04 long enough to find out.
[02:32] <apb1963> Bashing-om: how about this... I boot one disk at a time and see what grub does.  I leave all the other disks off the boot device menu in the bios.
[02:32] <apb1963> Bashing-om: unless you think the boot repair script is the way to go.  I can do that if you want.
[02:34] <Bashing-om> apb1963: OK, let's find out .. I have made enough mistakes for one night. let's identify what we have for sure . Back out of all mounts ' sudo umount /dev/sdc1 ' and from here we can find put what the other partions are .
[02:35] <Capum321> how to run a command after wake up - using anacron or system-sleep? - and parse? the login credentials?
[02:36] <apb1963> Bashing-om: ok... I already mounted each one... that's how I was able to discern what they were above..  What is it yo're trying to determine?
[02:37] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I'
[02:37] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I'm thinking to boot just sdc1.  Removing all other drives from the bios device list.  See if grub kicks in.  If it does, then it needs to be removed.
[02:38] <Bashing-om> apb1963: 'ls -al mnt/sdb2 ' is this a system partiton ?
[02:39] <apb1963> Bashing-om: it is my home partition.
[02:39] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Thing is that each and every time that grub updates on any of the systems it is going to drive the booting kernel insane with bad configurations .
[02:40] <apb1963> Bashing-om: which is a good reason why to boot one drive at a time.
[02:41] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Complete thoughts, please .. I have enough on my mind trying to keep this straight . " it is my home partition." for what install ?
[02:41] <nauticalnexus> I'm trying to build a kernel, I cannot for the life of me figure out why this is happening. "recipe for config-prepare-check-generic failed"
[02:41] <apb1963> Bashing-om: For all installs.  It is a partition.  It gets mounted to /home
[02:42] <Bashing-om> apb1963: That still does not answer the question . is this sdb2 the /home partiton for 16.04 ? yes or no ?
[02:44] <apb1963> Bashing-om: It is intended to be.  Whether or not it actually is at the moment, I do not know.  I am running off the liveUSB, and that partition is not mounted.
[02:44] <nauticalnexus> output of  "fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic" if anyone is interested https://ptpb.pw/nLYR
[02:44] <Bashing-om> ^^ Bear in mind that sharing /home partitpons amongst different installs is a bad idea ! if this is what you are doing . one sets up a data partiton to share common files .
[02:45] <Bashing-om> apb1963: So mount sdb2 and list it and see what it is . what I must do is find the other 12.04 install and fix the grub there so it does not ness up the 16.04 control grub .
[02:46] <apb1963> Bashing-om: My intention is not to multi-boot any more than I have to.  The only reason I'm setting up 16.04 right now is because 14.04 was hosed.
[02:47] <apb1963> Bashing-om: my common files are things like ~/Documents/*
[02:47] <apb1963> Bashing-om: and ~/Downloads etc.
[02:48] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Multi boot is a great thing 14.04 as the work horse, and 16.04 as the learning/breaking .. when one breaks one system there is the other to fall back on .. a common shared data partiton and nothing is lost while fixing the other .
[02:49] <tekisui> woeiiiiiiiii
[02:49] <tekisui> finally got lubuntu running
[02:49] <tekisui> i hope
[02:49] <tekisui> 4 now
[02:49] <apb1963> Bashing-om:ok.  so /dev/sdb2 is /home.  Next question or command please.
[02:49] <tekisui> pfff pfff
[02:50] <tekisui> format c: /u
[02:50] <tekisui> and all your worries are gone :)
[02:50] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Can I mark sdb2 as /home for 16.04 .. and be secure in that knowledge ?
[02:51] <tekisui> bye
[02:51] <tekisui> thanks 4 the trouble
[02:52] <cantoo> only by size and having all other bases covered.  you need one /  i use 80 or 90 of the 000's which are megs which means something like 80000 and one swap, depending on ram, most people want exact match for the lpic as if slackware biggest hit at the time which to them say 1500 ram.  it even exist virtually.  thats probably for low ram like 2gb.  for above only insider know.  we all insiders.
[02:53] <cantoo> after / and swap you need /home.  never format on reinstall as long as have / and swap
[02:53] <cantoo> there special trick.  i cannot explain even more.  if you can handle a boot of sufficient size and anything else but home even including reinstall if desired.  it only considered special trick, in special ability.
[02:54] <cantoo> that is /boot
[02:54] <cantoo> it optional.  that special trick requires knowledge i have no first hand information about
[02:55] <cantoo> i consider it also a special goof up now for the masses.  everyone you once had now in the cloud.  i like parsix in America.
[02:55] <cantoo> my prayers and thoughts they also platinum
[02:56] <Capum321> how to run a command, after wake up from sleep system - using anacron or system-sleep? - and parse? the login credentials? to DM so the script can run a GUI app like irssi?
[02:57] <Bashing-om> apb1963: While you are considering .. it is very good to label partitions in a multi disks set up . as an example my system : http://termbin.com/tkb0 where I have all partitions labeled .
[03:02] <kogmo> !intel
[03:02] <kogmo> !unity
[03:03] <kogmo> !notunity
[03:06] <veryhappy> hey guys, using ubuntu 16.04 lts for a few weeks now i wanted to downgrade now but thought about reinstalling ubuntu 14.04.3 now. I already reinstalled now, everything is working except for a problem where i couldn't find a solution for. While runtime of ubuntu there are always soft lockups and I can't find a solution which is really working except for disabling the service acpi temporarily....
[03:06] <veryhappy> ...What should I do? I have to say that this notebook i'm writing on is the same notebook i have ubuntu installed on, i'm writing from windows at this moment.
[03:10] <apb1963> Bashing-om: OK, I have gone through each disk one at a time.  sata0 is 16.04; sata 1 has no boot device; sata 2 has a grub menu for all 3 OS's and sata 3 has a grub rescue prompt.
[03:11] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I will doublecheck sata1 because the BIOS is buggy.
[03:11] <fucshiagirl> http://www.renegadetribune.com/christopher-bollyn-solving-9-11-ends-war/
[03:11] <homecomputer101> Ranger15 I had the same problem. Update to the latest kernel fixed it.
[03:12] <apb1963> Bashing-om: actually I don't know how to exit grub rescue cleanly... so I'll wait for you.
[03:13] <Ranger15> what
[03:14] <homecomputer101> Sorry Ranger15 that was for veryhappy
[03:15] <Ranger15> ok
[03:15] <Ranger15> np.. just making sure i wasnt missing something
[03:15] <veryhappy> homecomputer101: thank you homecomputer101, so how can i update to the latest kernel? apt-get update linux-image-(version) ?
[03:16] <Bashing-om> apb1963: ^^ only confuses the issue even more . generally sata0 would be sda - the 1st hard drive  . and here we have identified sda as windows XP and sda5 holds Kubuntu 14.04 . :(
[03:18] <homecomputer101> veryhappy the latest kernel for 16.04 is 4.7 , to find out what one you have in terminal type uname -a
[03:19] <munja> Is ubuntu trying to keep up with the kernel versions more than before?
[03:19] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I don't understand why that's confusing.  Sure it would be nice if abc corresponded to 12,14,16... but they don't.  It's abc: 14, 16, 12.
[03:20] <veryhappy> homecomputer101: i understand, well i reinstalled my ubuntu to version 14.04.3 because of the missing driver support for some graphics cards and due to the fact that some multilibs for 32 and 64 bit just weren't installable. (for example i tried to install skype but that didn't work and i also just found howtos for older versions of ubuntu)
[03:20] <veryhappy> homecomputer101: that was meant for version 16.04 lts what i just wrote
[03:22] <homecomputer101> veryhappy to get latest kernel in terminal - sudo apt-get update
[03:22] <homecomputer101> sudo apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r` AND sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[03:22] <Bashing-om> apb1963: well OK. what ever . All I am concerned about is what is on what partition in order to remove what needs removing so that there is but that one controlling boot authority for ALL operating systems . Then once set up install 16.04's grub to the sdb MBR .
[03:23] <apb1963> Bashing-om: sata 3, which is presumably sdc, which holds 12.04... has a grub rescue menu.
[03:24] <veryhappy> homecomputer101: great! so i can also get the latest kernel for my installed version? that should solve my problem then.
[03:24] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I would suggest we look at removing grub from sata 3, sdc.
[03:25] <apb1963> Bashing-om: so... going with that assumption/suggestion...  I'm at the grub rescue prompt for sata3.  What now?
[03:25] <veryhappy> homecomputer101: thanks i'll try it.
[03:25] <homecomputer101> veryhappy you are welcome
[03:28] <romrider7> Hi - for some reason my yahoo.de and freenet.de inboxes in the gmail feature of ubuntu 16.04 stopped showing any new incoming mails as of august 27th.. not been able to find a cure sofar.. (strangly inbox works fine!!)
[03:28] <Capum321> hello?
[03:28] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Yeah . we do need to remove grub sdc 12.04 . What we do not know is if tere is also another install of 12.04 on either/both sdc2 sdc3 .
[03:28] <romrider7> hi Capum321 ...
[03:29] <Capum321> how to run a command, after wake up from sleep system - using anacron or system-sleep? - and parse? the login credentials to DM so the script can run a GUI app like irssi?
[03:31] <Bashing-om> apb1963: in that grub > prompt .. what results with 'exit' ?
[03:32] <prwui> I don't believe the official 911 narrative either.
[03:36] <apb1963> Bashing-om: everything I try is "unknown command"
[03:37] <apb1963> Bashing-om: exit, quit, help, ?... the only command I've found that works is "ls"
[03:38] <Bashing-om> apb1963: In the grub environment there is a very limited amount of commands , that is not bash .
[03:39] <Bashing-om> apb1963: does the escape key take you back to the grub boot menu ?
[03:39] <apb1963> Bashing-om: no
[03:40] <Bashing-om> apb1963: strange . .. ok ctl+alt+del might reboot . depending on the system .
[03:40] <apb1963> Bashing-om: No
[03:41] <Bashing-om> !sysreq
[03:41] <apb1963> Bashing-om: actually... it did
[03:41] <apb1963> Bashing-om: my bad
[03:41] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I thought I tried that
[03:42] <apb1963> apb1963: so... it's rebooting... but it will just end up in the same place... so... boot the usb?
[03:44] <Bashing-om> apb1963: sda will boot , sdc is unknown,  sdb we have removed grub .
[03:46] <cantoo> Bashing-om, you can use super grub disc iso to boot from any drive i theorize.  it should work on ubuntu and others as long as its grub too, despite the presence or lack of mbr
[03:48] <Bashing-om> cantoo: Yeah . Here we are setting up for multi-boot and 16.04 is to be that control .
[03:49] <cantoo> Bashing-om, i've never done that. you could if you don't want pretty possily use super grub iso and have it boot from a usb drive containing that.  its a simple solution that works.  no matter what its all accessible by any linux i suspect
[03:51] <Bashing-om> cantoo: I am sure ,, Here we just want to remove awareness of other operating systems in all but that one . we do not have a problem we can not deal with .
[03:52] <cantoo> Bashing-om, i have no idea how to block awareness of physical drives.  seems like the kernel has to be told on each operating system what to listen to and what not to know, only as a possibility.
[03:53] <cantoo> if that
[03:54] <Bashing-om> cantoo: That aware ness can be controlled in a number of places . apb1963 is working on setting it up correctly such that release 16.04 controlls booting 4 other systems .
[03:54] <cantoo> thats good stuff Bashing-om
[03:55] <apb1963> Bashing-om: just so we'
[03:56] <apb1963> Bashing-om: just so we're not waiting on each other... I'm waiting on you :)
[03:56] <Bray90820> Right now I am getting  kernel panic when 16.04 is idea for to long so could I just have my screen saver run like 24/7 to avoid the panic I know this isn't a permeant fix but just until I figure out what's going on
[03:56] <Bashing-om> cantoo: My 1st priority is always what I can learn . Along that way I help any that I am able . I have learned the hard way how to multi-boot and keep the kernel sane .
[03:57] <mv-var2root> I am trying to move /var back to / instead of its own partition, because I am out of space. How should I do this?
[03:58] <Bashing-om> apb1963: I waiting on you .. still back to confirmation that sdb2 is the /home partition for release 16.04 .
[03:58] <cantoo> Bashing-om, i'd have taught you if i could.  i don't multiboot but recognized super grub disc would work when grub wouldn't
[03:59] <Rangerdude> I am currently multi booting on 16.04 and windows8 if you need some config help.
[04:00] <Rangerdude> sorry I havent had time to go back through your conversation yet, but I am now.
[04:00] <Bashing-om> cantoo: Hint: learn grub and you will not need any other boot medium than is provided .
[04:00] <Rangerdude> Yep.. True. Grub is what finally did it for me.
[04:01] <cantoo> Bashing-om, in my case it was also a emergency at least once
[04:01] <Rangerdude> I use it for work and home
[04:04] <pixelkitty> hello everyone!
[04:05] <Rangerdude> hey
[04:05] <Bashing-om> cantoo: I am not taking away that it is a great tool ! .. just that super grub does nothing that one can not do with an understanding of grub .
[04:05] <pixelkitty> out of curiosity, has anyone played Frozen Bubble on their Ubuntu machine here?
[04:06] <Bashing-om> Rangerdude: Appreciate ya look over our shoulder . Ya booting EFI or MBR with Win8 ?
[04:06] <pixelkitty> I went to the game's page to see if there was a Windows port (unfortunately I no longer have access to an Ubuntu PC) and they say that version 2.2.2 was being ported to Windows but I don't think it was released
[04:07] <pixelkitty> so I guess I have no choice but to install ubuntu on a virtual machine :( and I wanted to ask what version of Ubuntu works best for a virtual machine
[04:07] <apb1963> Bashing-om: it is the current home partition for 14.04
[04:07] <pixelkitty> 16.04's reviews have been... less than stellar and for some reason I suspect that being so new, it'll be buggy as hell
[04:08] <Rangerdude> 16.04 and 14 works great on vm's Virt box and vm ware
[04:08] <apb1963> Bashing-om: It is intended to be the home partition for 16.04 but I have done nothing as of yet to make that happen.
[04:08] <pixelkitty> do you use Unity or is there still an option to use the older interface?
[04:09] <Bashing-om> apb1963: I show that 14,04 is installed to sda5, so you are splitting the home directory off to sdb2 ? ( nothing wrong there at all if that is the case ) .
[04:09] <Rangerdude> I am use to Unity, but you can choose anything you want Gnome, kde, mate
[04:10] <apb1963> Bashing-om: yes
[04:10] <pixelkitty> ok, final question, how do you open programs in Unity if you run the machine through those seamless modes?
[04:10] <pixelkitty> does VMWare/Virtual Box provide a program launcher?
[04:10] <Bashing-om> apb1963: marking sdb2 as so ,, stand by .
[04:11] <Rangerdude> program launcher?
[04:11] <Rangerdude> give me some help on that one
[04:11] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Now next,s what is sdc2 ?
[04:12] <apb1963> Bashing-om: data
[04:12] <pixelkitty> yeah, when I ran XP on a virtual machine in Ubuntu, VMWare had this little button that you could leave floating on the screen and it was basically the Windows start menu, I guess it was designed so that if you ran in VMWare Unity mode/VirtualBox seamless mode, you wouldn't have to open the virtual machine in its own windows and then run the program
[04:13] <pixelkitty> with VMWare Unity and VB seamless mode I'm referring to that feature where you can integrate the VM's windows with your host's OS desktop :)
[04:13] <Bashing-om> apb1963: K; confirm there is no boot data associated to sdc2 . There will be no interfence with building the new boot code ?
[04:15] <pixelkitty> I realize that this might not be the best place to ask about that, but I tried looking it up on Google, and as usual, all I find is those really old mailing lists or Ubuntu Forums threads from like 2008 :P
[04:15] <Rangerdude> pixelkitty: I have never heard of what your mentioning across platforms. Maybe on the same platform on Citrix systems years ago.
[04:15] <pixelkitty> hmm, I guess the best way to find out is to try it out myself hehe
[04:16] <pixelkitty> alright, thanks a lot Rangerdude! have a good one
[04:16] <Rangerdude> pixelkitty: have a good one
[04:21] <apb1963> Bashing-om: confirmed.  There is no /boot or any kernels.
[04:21] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Great .. and the same for sdc3 ?
[04:22] <apb1963> Bashing-om: yes
[04:24] <Bashing-om> OK. back then to 12,04 sda5 . boot that 1st hard drive and let's see if we can find where that 2nd instance of 12,04 comes from .
[04:25] <apb1963> Bashing-om: sda5 is 14.04
[04:25] <apb1963> df
[04:27] <apb1963> Bashing-om: [19:30] <apb1963> Bashing-om:  12.04 on sdc1 (3.2), 14.04 is on sda5 (3.13) and 16.04 (4.4) is on sdb1
[04:28] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I  had to draw a table... it was the only way to keep track of it all
[04:29] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Yeah .. 14.04 .. thanks .. I am tired now and my think'n is cloudy . 14.04 sda should be good . sdb is hosed and we will re-install grub . and it is sdc that holds 12.04 were next we need to rework .// so can you boot that 3rd hard drive ?
[04:31] <apb1963> Bashing-om: also... I don't think there is a second instance... I was wrong.  I mistook 14.04.5 to be 12.04.5... I realized it when I saw the boot menu again, thought I saw what I originally described... then looked more closely and realized i was wrong.  There is only one instance of 12. I believe at this time.
[04:32] <apb1963> Bashing-om: No... a and b boot. C has the grub rescue prompt
[04:33] <apb1963> Bashing-om: lets pickup tomorrrow... we're both tired.
[04:33] <orange-soda> Hi guys, I need some help. I just installed Ubuntu Server (latest version) and I can't seem to be able to connect to the Internet.
[04:33] <apb1963> Bashing-om: thanks for all your help so far!
[04:33] <lucas_ai> I'm trying to run a python script on startup. Where should I put the script on my filesystem? And how do I make it start when booting?
[04:34] <orange-soda> ping Google.org yields unknown host
[04:34] <apb1963> orange-soda: what about google.com ?
[04:34] <orange-soda> Nope.
[04:34] <apb1963> orange-soda: you definitely tried google.com ?
[04:34] <apb1963> orange-soda: because I don't think there is a google.org
[04:34] <apb1963> though I could be wrong
[04:35] <apb1963> I'm wrong
[04:35] <orange-soda> Lol
[04:35] <Bashing-om> apb1963: And I do accept that . we have done a lot of time and effort to make sure . And I am of the mind though to clean up 12.04 and then install gryb for 16.04 . But before that when we have 12.04 booting we want to go back to 14.04 and Move the boot code to the partition . I do hope that we do not mess with Win XP and it is still bootable .
[04:36] <orange-soda> So any clue as to what may be keeping me from accessing the Internet?
[04:37] <chilean> Hello, who could help me please configure my wireless adapter Qualcomm Atheros AR93xx?
[04:37] <apb1963> Bashing-om: again... I don't care about 12.04 booting... If 14.04 boots, I'm satisifed.  If 16.04 boots, I'm overjoyed.  If 12.04 boots...phbbt.
[04:40] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Again we have to make it so 16.04's grub is happy . Every time there is a kernel update, grub gets rewritten ., We must make it so that the configs do not drive the kernel nuts .
[04:41] <apb1963> Bashing-om: OK... I understand that.  And, unless you tell me differently I'm of the opinion that removing grub from 12.04 is sufficient to satisfy grub of 16.04 without 12.04 needing to be fully functional.
[04:43] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Yes that is a partial solution . However, keep in mind that when 14.04 gets an update . you will also have to manually update 16.04's grub to keep track of the changes in 14.04 .
[04:44] <apb1963> Bashing-om: well.. if that's the case then lets pick a version and be done with it.
[04:45] <apb1963> Bashing-om: Let talk tomorrow.  Good night.  Thanks again!
[04:46] <Bashing-om> apb1963: We have ,, we have decided that 16.04 is to be that controlling authority . As 16.04 is that primary booting system you have to keep it aware of what the other systems have changed .
[04:49] <peterrooney> I recall someone saying it would be faster to backup, wipe, and install 16.04 from scratch a few hours ago...
[04:49] <Neroon> peterrooney: well, hindsight....
[04:54] <Genbu> hello. i suspect that xbox driver freezes my ubuntu pc. how can i check if i'm right?
[05:09] <darchix> Hi
[05:18] <lucas_ai> Am I supposed to use /etc/init or /etc/init.d for my own daemons in the latest ubuntu? The internet doesn't say
[05:26] <no_gravity> Hello! To fix my wifi, somebody suggested to "Disable power management" via "iwconfig wlp2s0 power off". It did not fix it. How can I figure out if power management was on in the first place?
[05:28] <no_gravity> Oh, I see it's in the output of iwconfig.
[05:30] <Rangerdude> Did you figure it out?
[05:31] <Rangerdude> no_gravity:?
[05:33] <Rangerdude> no_gravity: you can turn pwr mngmt off with   iw wlan0 set power_save off
[05:33] <Rangerdude> and then check it with
[05:33] <Rangerdude> iw wlan0 get power_save
[05:36] <malkauns_> does anyone else find that switching windows on Ubuntu gets laggy over time? (nvidia driver on Unity)
[05:43] <t0rWh0r3> hi im trying to format the output from "apt-cache search" with "column" in 2 columns. column1:packagename(one word)    column2:description(many words with). Is there a easy wa to do that?
[05:45] <Rangerdude> t0rWh0r3  I think you have it right, I have never thought of it in the way your thinking.
[05:46] <Rangerdude> but it makes sense if your want exactly what your search for
[05:47] <t0rWh0r3> i have it right? where?
[05:47] <t0rWh0r3> the ordinary output is
[05:47] <Rangerdude> apt-cache search ( whatever )
[05:48] <t0rWh0r3> yes but i want a formated output "apt-cache search xyz | column -t" but only in 2 columns
[05:49] <Rangerdude> apt-cache search ( whatever ) | grep anotherpart
[05:50] <Rangerdude> t0rWh0r3:  let me try a few things
[05:51] <t0rWh0r3> how it is:
[05:51] <t0rWh0r3> bla - blablablablablabla
[05:51] <t0rWh0r3> blablabla - blablablablabla
[05:51] <t0rWh0r3> i want:
[05:51] <t0rWh0r3> bla				blablablablablabla
[05:51] <t0rWh0r3> blablabla 		blablablablabla
[06:07] <t2mkn> why m unable to drag drop from host to guest but able to do so guest to host. guest ubuntu 16.04 host El Capitan. VBox 5.1.4
[06:08] <t2mkn> any one able to achieve drag drop on both side
[06:08] <t2mkn> ?
[06:13] <t0rWh0r3> how can i make "apt-cache search pkgname | column -t" look like http://paste.ubuntu.com/23162961/
[06:19] <Bray90820> Anyone around that can help me get my tablet booting it has ubuntu 16.04 and it boots to a blank screen  after the grub menu I tried nomad set and that doesn't seem to help
[06:19] <Bray90820> It does boot like once every 10 times
[06:20] <t0rWh0r3> sounds to me like defect sectors on ram
[06:21] <Bray90820> t0rWh0r3: Well windows booted perfectly fine
[06:22] <Bray90820> And actually nomodeset worked on an older kennel
[06:25] <t0rWh0r3> have you removed "quiet splash $vt_handoff" for verbose boot?
[06:25] <Bray90820> Well I removed quiet splash and i got a verbose boot
[06:26] <Bray90820> Should I post where it hangs?
[06:27] <t0rWh0r3> yeah you should get some error messages or see on which point it freezes
[06:43] <Bray90820> t0rWh0r3: even though he has left here it is
[06:43] <Bray90820> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/Linux.jpg
[07:03] <h313g> hi
[07:07] <Disaster_Area> hi~4
[07:17] <bijoo> Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu MAAS Region; for updates, I chose "Landscape" and now the installer is stuck at 15% "Configuring landscape-client (amd64)" for a very long time; what options do you folks think are good ones?
[07:18] <bijoo> My goal is to proceed, install Landscape; but if it's not do-able to ditch it; and use the manual Update for now.
[07:18] <bijoo> Any help is much appreciated.
[07:19] <bijoo> Note using latest Server image 16.04
[07:26] <CipherZero> can i install openvpn on ubuntu?
[07:27] <elky> yes.
[07:27] <CipherZero> how?
[07:28] <ducasse> CipherZero: 'sudo apt install openvpn'
[07:28] <CipherZero> there is a openvpn server and client?
[07:28] <CipherZero> i want to install sever.
[07:28] <ducasse> CipherZero: same thing, just one package.
[07:28] <CipherZero> oh
[07:28] <CipherZero> if i connect to openvpn server, then No one no my ip?
[07:29] <ducasse> CipherZero: assuming there are no leaks.
[07:30] <elky> CipherZero: the openvpn provider will see your ip address but from there on you will appear from the openvpn's address
[07:30] <CipherZero> ducasse: what you mean?
[07:31] <CipherZero> nevertheless installing openvpn on my computer, i need openvpn provider?
[07:32] <ducasse> CipherZero: you need to connect to a server, yes.
[07:32] <elky> if you're not running openvpn on a server yourself, correct
[07:33] <CipherZero> i will running openvpn on my server myself, then i don’t need provider?
[07:33] <CipherZero> elky:
[07:33] <elky> you would be your own provider
[07:33] <ducasse> CipherZero: no, but then your traffic will appear as coming from your server.
[07:35] <CipherZero> oh my god
[07:35] <CipherZero> ducasse: then server ip == client ip?
[07:36] <dax> yes, connecting to a vpn server running on your local machine is indeed pointless
[07:36] <CipherZero> :(
[07:37] <ducasse> CipherZero: openvpn does not magically cloak your traffic, it has to come from somewhere.
[07:37] <CipherZero> then i must use vpn provider with paying money?
[07:38] <ducasse> CipherZero: yes.
[07:38] <CipherZero> there is free one?
[07:38] <CipherZero> because i have no money
[07:38] <elky> if you're trying to protect your home ip address, using a $5/mo server and connecting via that will achieve that. if you want something hard to link to you, you'll need to use a vpn provider company.
[07:39] <elky> there are "free" ones but they tend to be sketchy
[07:39] <elky> alternatively you could use tor but some things exclude it due to how abused it is... because it's free.
[07:39] <CipherZero> but how can i trust vpn provider company? they will intercept my packet? elky
[07:40] <elky> CipherZero: that's not really my problem i'm afraid. trust is between you and your provider and i cannot recommend any.
[07:40] <CipherZero> oh
[07:40] <CipherZero> thanks elky
[07:43] <SuperWangCC> what
[07:44] <SuperWangCC> how to change nickname's color
[07:45] <ducasse> SuperWangCC: depends on your client.
[07:45] <SuperWangCC> hexchat how to set
[07:45] <CipherZero>  what vpn server most people use?
[07:46] <ducasse> CipherZero: ask in ##security or ##networking
[07:46] <CipherZero> good idea
[07:46] <CipherZero> thanks ducasse
[07:51] <alfredo55> salve
[08:15] <lala> hello guys
[08:19] <JihadJoe> oh fuk a Drone
[08:20] <JihadJoe> is this a reaper?
[08:34] <Fendaris> can somebody answer me a question about pip by chance?
[08:35] <ikonia> Fendaris: you'll do better just asking your question, people don't know if they can answer until you ask
[08:39] <Fendaris> the directory  or its parent directory is not owned by the current user and the cache has been disabled. Please check the permissions and owner of that directory. If executing pip with sudo, you may want sudo's -H flag.
[08:39] <Fendaris>  
[08:40] <Fendaris> what does that mean and does it have any relevance?
[08:40] <Fendaris> or its parent directory is not owned by the current user and caching wheels has been disabled. check the permissions and owner of that directory. If executing pip with sudo, you may want sudo's -H flag.
[08:40] <ikonia> Fendaris: basically you don't have permissions to write to that dir
[08:40] <ikonia> bottom line
[08:40] <Fendaris> how can i get it?
[08:40] <ikonia> (or the directories above it)
[08:40] <Fendaris> do i have to start a different terminal or something?
[08:41] <Fendaris> i m trying to execute this sudo pip install /tmp/tensorflow_pkg/tensorflow
[08:41] <Fendaris> and get that error ]Invalid requirement: '/tmp/tensorflow_pkg/tensorflow'
[08:41] <Fendaris>  It looks like a path. Does it exist ?
[08:41] <Fendaris> together with the error listed above
[08:42] <ikonia> do you need to specify a path ?
[08:42] <ikonia> "man pip" to understand the arguments
[08:43] <Fendaris> https://alliseesolutions.wordpress.com/2016/09/08/install-gpu-tensorflow-from-sources-w-ubuntu-16-04-and-cuda-8-0-rc/ <-- at the very bottom of the tutorial
[08:43] <Fendaris> I don't know, supposedly i only need to use the listed commands from the tutorial, but apparently it s not working
[08:43] <Fendaris> i had to change one command further up in the tutorial as well because it was missing a parameter
[08:44] <Fendaris> I am just not familiar with linux, so a bit difficult to figure out what it means by me not having rights for that folder, or how to give it the rights
[08:45] <ikonia> sounds like you shouldn't be using that guide
[08:45] <Fendaris> There are not many around ;)
[08:46] <\9> Fendaris: you don't provide a path to pip, but a package name
[08:46] <ikonia> Fendaris: what exactly are you trying to learn
[08:46] <Fendaris> thx \9, you think this command is missing something sudo pip install /tmp/tensorflow_pkg/tensorflow?
[08:47] <ikonia> Fendaris: that is a "path" not a package name
[08:47] <ikonia> Fendaris: what is the skill/thing you are trying to learn
[08:47] <Fendaris> I am trying to install ubuntu, drivers for gtx1080, cuda, cudnn, tensorflow. Been at it for like 20 hours due to looots of incompatibilities, but mostly because it s my first linux experiment :)
[08:47] <Fendaris> eg. i need to learn everything i need to install that
[08:47] <ikonia> https://www.tensorflow.org/versions/r0.10/get_started/os_setup.html
[08:48] <ikonia> the official guide from the official web page
[08:48] <Fendaris> yeah that doesnt work
[08:48] <Fendaris> I need to build it with cuda 8
[08:48] <ikonia> why not
[08:48] <ikonia> looks a good guide
[08:48] <Fendaris> 7.5 which is for the official guide, doesnt seem to be very compatible with 15.04
[08:48] <Fendaris> aeh 16.04
[08:48] <Fendaris> and 15.04 is not compatible with my gpu
[08:49] <Fendaris> there are some posts by people who managed to get 7.5 running, but people recommend 8.0
[08:49] <ikonia> looking at the package versions that should work with 16.04
[08:49] <Fendaris> i failed with the 7.5 experiment, though as i am now more familiar, i might have better success than yesterday
[08:49] <ikonia> that guide looks (at a glance) like it should work with 16.04 just fine
[08:49] <ikonia> the versions match up
[08:49] <Fendaris> If you go to the nvidia page, cuda 7.5 only lists 15.04 and 14.04
[08:49] <Fendaris> cuda 8.0 lists 16.04
[08:50] <ikonia> so cuda 8 is a release candidate - pre-release,
[08:50] <ikonia> thats the first thing to be aware of
[08:51] <Fendaris> anything that actually works in the end i ll be happy with xD
[08:51] <ikonia> so it looks like cuda 7.5 will work with 16.04
[08:51] <Fendaris> I feel a bit retarded for it not running by now ^^
[08:52] <ikonia> !info nvidia-cuda-toolkit
[08:52] <ikonia> Fendaris: have a read of this https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/926383/testing-ubuntu-16-04-for-cuda-development-awesome-integration-/
[08:53] <\9> hmm
[08:53] <\9> i wonder can pip actually install from a path
[08:53] <\9> if it does then that error would suggest that it doesn't exist
[08:53] <Fendaris> I am quite certain that the tutorial works in principal and that I either made a small mistake somewhere, or that this pip command has got a small error
[08:54] <Fendaris> so I checked the paths too
[08:55] <Fendaris> when i click on "computer", there is a folder called tmp and in tmp there is a file called tensorflow-0.10.0rc0-py3-none-any.whl
[08:55] <Fendaris> oh actually, where is the tensorflow_pkg folder
[08:56] <Fendaris> ah ok i also have /tmp/tensorflow_pkg/tensorflow-0.10rc0-py3-none-any.whl
[08:58] <kristian_on_linu> hi all
[08:58] <Fendaris> oh nice
[08:58] <Fendaris> i added the exact file name to the end, now it did something ^^
[08:58] <Fendaris> Successfully installed protobuf-3.0.0b2 tensorflow-0.10.0rc0
[08:58] <kristian_on_linu> Skype on Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS 64 bit ... how the hell do I do it?
[08:58] <kristian_on_linu> I've looked at the various guides and such, no luck
[08:58] <ikonia> skype is pushing the web app now
[08:59] <kristian_on_linu> ikonia, the browser thing is OK?
[08:59] <kristian_on_linu> I only tested it with that robot voice
[08:59] <ikonia> kristian_on_linu: some people like it, others don't
[08:59] <Fendaris> wtf is it actually working now? =)))
[09:00] <ikonia> Fendaris: please don't swear
[09:00] <ssc_> Hello, I am trying to mount a directory via davfs2 but it's giving me 500 Internal Server Error
[09:00] <Fendaris> I can't believe it seems to be working =)
[09:03] <Fendaris> oh my god it works xD
[09:03] <ikonia> yes, you said
[09:03] <Fendaris> >>> print(sess.run(a+b))
[09:03] <Fendaris> 42
[09:04] <Fendaris> that was like a dozen workarounds, correcting the tutorial in 2 places, 3 different ubuntu distributions, etc
[09:04] <ikonia> yes, you said that also
[09:04] <varox> is there a way to extract rar files ?
[09:05] <Fendaris> google broke the current git version yesterday as well, but fortunately could check out an older version that works
[09:05] <ikonia> Fendaris: why are you telling us this ?
[09:05] <ikonia> varox: unrar
[09:05] <ikonia> varox: it's in the repos
[09:06] <varox> Ikonia : does not aprea in software center for 16.04
[09:06] <varox> *apear
[09:06] <Fendaris> btw that folder access warning from pip stayed and was irrelevant
[09:06] <ikonia> Fendaris: again - why are you telling us this
[09:06] <Fendaris> because i am human, are you?
[09:07] <ikonia> thats not really a reason to tell us a story
[09:07] <ikonia> !unrar
[09:07]  * varox bows i am noobie 
[09:07] <Fendaris> Mr. Ikonia robotic ;)
[09:07] <Fendaris> I am gonna go celebrate! l8er
[09:07] <ikonia> varox: nothing wrong with being new
[09:30] <ssc_> When some drive or directory is mounted, does it take space on the machine where it is mounted?
[09:30] <ikonia> no
[09:30] <ssc_> ikonia: Thanks
[09:40] <Fudge> how can I check if my serial device has been detected please?
[09:40] <ikonia> connect to the serial port ? look in the syslog
[09:43] <Fudge> cant see much in syslog when ipower cycle the device, it is a speech synthisizer
[09:44] <ikonia> does it have linux support
[09:45] <Fudge> yes
[09:45] <Fudge> vtech kernel: [    0.754982] Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 32 ports, IRQ sharing enabled
[09:47] <Fudge> ah cant free resource for the com port, might have to check bios
[09:51] <Fudge> Sep 11 18:49:46 vtech kernel: [ 1022.970825] Unable to allocate port at 3f8, errno -16
[09:51] <Fudge> Sep 11 18:49:46 vtech kernel: [ 1022.970827] Dectalk Express: not found
[09:51] <Fudge> Sep 11 18:49:46 vtech kernel: [ 1022.970828] dectlk: device probe failed
[10:02] <ebony> why vpn service failed to start
[10:04] <ssc_> ubuntu 16.10 is going to be delayed?
[10:05] <ikonia> ssc_: who said that ?
[10:05] <ikonia> ebony: what is the error
[10:05] <ssc_> One of my colleague told me
[10:05] <flux242> ebony: because of unfavorite stars and planets constallation?
[10:05] <ikonia> flux242: not really helpful, please don't
[10:05] <ikonia> ssc_: ask him about it then - there is nothing on the development site/lists
[10:06] <flux242> its worth the question
[10:06] <ssc_> Aaah nevermind, he meant unity8 won't be available in 16.10 as default
[10:06] <ikonia> flux242: please don't
[10:08] <flux242> how do you say 'unguenstig' in english anyway?
[10:09] <ikonia> no idea, it's not a translation channel
[10:10] <r1nt3c_> join
[10:10] <r1nt3c_> sorry misstake
[10:11] <Fudge> ikonia:  [    0.775423] 00:08: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4, base_baud = 115200) is a 16550A
[10:12] <ikonia> what ?
[10:13] <Sam54> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu using a live USB key. I formatted it in FAT32 and used Unetbotlin with the official ubuntu (16.04.1) image. When I start my computer the ubuntu's loading screen appear and is blocked on four orange points. I wait, nothing appears. (ethernet cable unplugged & iso's md5sum valide). Is this problem known ?
[10:13] <Fudge> lol ikonia  my serial issues
[10:13] <ikonia> Sam54: remove the boot splash option
[10:13] <ikonia> Fudge: what serial issue
[10:14] <Fudge> my speech synth ikonia , nvm mind :D
[10:15] <ikonia> I have no idea what you are talking about, you just asked how to validate if a serial device was detected
[10:17] <Sam54> ikonia: thanks, I will try this
[10:19]  * Obadiah1 loves Ubuntu
[10:29] <Sam54> I'm back. So I installed Ubuntu and told it to encrypt my disk with a password. I'm french so I typed this password with a french keyboard.
[10:30] <Sam54> But now it is asking the password (I suppose with an english) keyboard. I tried to type with the password with the qwerty mapping but it doesn't work. An idea ?
[10:30] <ikonia> why do you think the keyboard is different
[10:31] <ikonia> when you install it asks you what language/keymap you want to use
[10:31] <Sam54> Yes, but how the system could know what I choose if it is encrypted ?
[10:31] <ikonia> because it's a boot argument
[10:31] <ikonia> you should see it in the grub options
[10:31] <ikonia> it shouldn't change keyboard maps
[10:32] <Sam54> Oh ^^ ...
[10:32] <marcinlawnik> Hello, how can I implement something like this in my system? https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/523jmg/new_csgo_bomb_model_leaked/d7hce57 Basically the idea is is that if your password is in inside of what is typed in the password box you can log in, but it can also contain other characers, so as to confuse shoulder-peekers.
[10:33] <ikonia> you'd have to write software to do that
[10:33] <marcinlawnik> I know it can be done by generating rolling hashes and so on, but is there a ready implementation of it?
[10:33] <ikonia> you could possibly do it with a custom pam module
[10:33] <ikonia> but from my view point it's a total waste of time
[10:34] <marcinlawnik> ikonia, why?
[10:34] <marcinlawnik> ikonia, I'll look up pam modules then
[10:34] <ikonia> because basic secure password managment is enough for most people
[10:34] <ikonia> and 2fa would be a better investment in time so that it changes and is linked to a device only you can see
[10:35] <ikonia> if someone looks over your shoulder and watches your keyboard strokes for 20 chars, they will still know the 20 chars you type
[10:35] <marcinlawnik> ikonia, not if you do it fast enough no ;)
[10:35] <marcinlawnik> ikonia, unless they have photographic memory
[10:35] <ikonia> then if you do it fast enough - they won't see your keystrokes anyway
[10:35] <ikonia> it's a total waste of time and energy and something that no other apps would support
[10:36] <ZoF> Sorry kiddo, I've got perfect recal and the eyes of an eagle, no such thing as 'fast enough' for me. Heh.
[10:37] <Sam54> ikonia: strangly when I try to type the passsword the caps lock's led is not functionnable.
[10:37] <marcinlawnik> ikonia, I'm not looking to do this because it is secure ;) I'm using rsa keys and google authenticator for my servers. I am in for the wow factor
[10:38] <ikonia> marcinlawnik: there is nothing wow about it
[10:39] <marcinlawnik> ikonia, well in my circle of friends it is ;) My friend today was amazed at how i am able to log in fast using a 16 character alphanumeric password ;)
[10:39] <ikonia> then I suggest you show your friends cat pictures, as that seems just as likley to "wow" them
[10:39] <ikonia> as you can see by my response to the idea, it was not "wow" it was "pointlesss waste of time
[10:39] <ZoF> wew lad, fiesty
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> ZoF  are you a bot?
[10:42] <marcinlawnik> ikonia, I get the idea, no point in being passive-aggressive
[10:42] <ikonia> I"m not being passive agressive,
[10:43] <ikonia> I've been pretty blunt and upfront that I think it's a pointless concept that will more likley cause more problems as no other applications will support it
[10:50] <ZoF> MonkeyDust: nope
[10:51] <Disaster_Area> I was looking at an article on the linux site about starting with ubuntu and it seemed curious to me that it suggested using chrome instead of firefox rather than downloading flash player b/c adobe flash player is so insecure
[10:51] <Disaster_Area> and chrome can work with html5 videos without flash player installed
[10:51] <Disaster_Area> so is there some alternative to flash player I could be using to watch youtube videos etc.
[10:52] <Disaster_Area> *to play DRM content
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> Disaster_Area  https://www.youtube.com/html5
[10:53] <ZoF> Disaster_Area depends on if the site has an html5 alternative, twitch/youtube/etc. do, ift here isn't one you don't have a choice though.
[10:53] <Disaster_Area> I had a look at that before; with the default stuff I had when I installed the OS youtube videos wouldn't run and the obvious solution was to get flash player. So if I uninstall flash player what can I do to get youtube to work
[10:54] <ikonia> flash is dead on linux - so forget that
[10:54] <ikonia> firefox will deal with html5 just as good as chrome
[10:54] <ZoF> They wouldn't play? Were you using the html5 player?
[10:54] <marcinlawnik> Disaster_Area, youtube.com/html5
[10:54] <Disaster_Area> Honestly I don't really know. I came in here a few days ago with my freshly installed ubuntu trying to make sense of why youtube wasn't working
[10:54] <Disaster_Area> I assumed that flash player was automatically installed but it wasn't, and people in here suggested I use that to use it
[10:55] <Disaster_Area> maybe I had to click something on youtube to make it work without using flash player?
[10:55] <marcinlawnik> Disaster_Area, bad advice
[10:55] <marcinlawnik> Disaster_Area, check that link
[10:55] <ZoF> Huh, well I just checked on a box that was installed this morning, youtube uses the html5 player automatically
[10:55] <marcinlawnik> Disaster_Area, there's a checkbox to enable html5
[10:55] <ZoF> I don't have flash
[10:55] <Disaster_Area> Okay. So I'm gonna uninstall flash player and see if youtube works for me.
[10:56] <Guest80939> I can see
[10:56] <marcinlawnik> Disaster_Area, what browser?
[10:56] <Disaster_Area> Firefox
[10:56] <Guest80939> yes
[10:57] <Disaster_Area> I'm just speaking with a friend too about another site I use to see if that should work fine w/o flash player
[10:57] <Sam54_> So, I've installed Ubuntu using a live-USB. I unplug the disk it is installed on and reboot on the USB key to reinstall properly Ubuntu and ... Nothing : black screen
[10:58] <ikonia> Sam54_: what you just said makes no sense
[10:58] <ikonia> why would you unplug the disk to re-install ?
[10:58] <baxx> is there a way to get more granular work spaces like i3 with ubuntu workspaces?
[10:58] <baxx> like, i might want to toggle the left monitor and keep the right the same?
[10:58] <ikonia> baxx: i3 is available as a window manager
[10:58] <marcinlawnik> Disaster_Area, I'm sorry but I'm unable to help, using chromium and chrome atm.
[10:58] <Sam54_> To prevent the computer from booting on the disk
[10:58] <baxx> ikonia: i know
[10:58] <ikonia> Sam54_: so how do you plan to install to that disk if it's unplugged
[10:59] <baxx> i'm asking if i can toggle one screen and have the other remain the same in default ubuntu
[10:59] <Sam54_> Couldn't I re-plug the disk after the system started ?
[10:59] <ikonia> Sam54_: no
[10:59] <ikonia> Sam54_: just set the boot order to boot from usb first
[10:59] <Disaster_Area> ok the other site i wanna use should be fine w/o flash player, so going to uninstall
[11:00] <ikonia> baxx: you used to be able to do it with 2 x servers running, using xinerama to bring them together, but they could be controlled seperate
[11:01] <baxx> ikonia: huh ok... so needs a fair bit of tweaking to get running? I have i3 installed... but ubuntu (to me) seems to function a little better (or easier) with the default environment... but this feature is something that I would like to have
[11:01] <ikonia> baxx: I dont know "now" as I've not looked at that requirement, but it was possible in the past
[11:01] <baxx> ikonia: ok, maybe someone else knows, idk what i'd search for on google for this
[11:01] <Disaster_Area> okay everything is working :)
[11:02] <Disaster_Area> good stuff thanks for the help ^^
[11:02] <ikonia> baxx: what actual desktop/window manager are you currently using
[11:02] <baxx> ikonia: atm I'm just using Unity
[11:02] <ikonia> baxx: so I'd searech for unity specific results, something like unity dual monitor seperate monitor control
[11:02] <baxx> ikonia: cool cheers :)
[11:03] <ikonia> as unity is "non-standard" not all options may be available/more options may be available
[11:03] <baxx> oh i thought it was standard?
[11:03] <baxx> it's what came with ubuntu...?
[11:03] <ikonia> it is standard for ubuntu
[11:03] <ikonia> but no-one else uses it other than ubuntu
[11:03] <ikonia> it's canonical/ubuntu's thing
[11:03] <baxx> right, that's what i meant... yeah ok cool
[11:03] <baxx> eyp
[11:04] <Sam54_> ikonia: I plugged the USB & the disk and now the computer starts on the disk : I can't access the bios or grub using shift / del / space / escape.
[11:04] <baxx> ha all the results are game dev :P
[11:06] <ZoF> Sam54_: You can't get into the bios by tapping f2(or whatever is shown) on boot?
[11:06] <Sam54_> I will try F2 but nothing is shown on boot
[11:14] <letter> is it possible to restore an ext4 filesystem (with bad superblocks) with the information of dumpe2fs?
[11:15] <bekks> letter: You'd need to find the backup superblocks.
[11:15] <letter> well they don't work
[11:16] <bekks> All up to 16 copies dont work?
[11:16] <bekks> Then your fs is horribly damaged.
[11:16] <letter> no
[11:16] <coasty2> is it possible to write a script that does stuff that requires su privileges but that enters the password by itself?
[11:17] <letter> should i do mke2fs -S ?
[11:17] <ikonia> coasty2: use a sudo rule/group
[11:17] <coasty2> ikonia, what?
[11:17] <coasty2> what's that
[11:17] <bekks> letter: What do you expect to happen?
[11:17] <ikonia> coasty2: research it
[11:18] <bekks> letter: Do you need the data on that filesystem?
[11:19] <letter> it would be helpful (but i can live without it)
[11:20] <bekks> letter: So do you have a working superblock backup?
[11:21] <letter> bekks: no, just the output of dumpe2fs
[11:21] <bekks> letter: So all x backup of the superblock are corrupted?
[11:22] <letter> bekks: yes :(
[11:22] <bekks> letter: Most likely all your data is gone as well then.
[11:23] <ZoF> letter: how many backups were there?
[11:23] <letter> bekks: from what i have i seen photorec still seems to work
[11:23] <bekks> letter: so thats what you should use then for recovering your data.
[11:23] <letter> Zof: backup superblocks?
[11:24] <ZoF> letter: yes
[11:24] <letter> ZoF: 14
[11:24] <letter> bekks: so the folder structure is lost, should i try foremost as well?
[11:25] <bekks> letter: What did you do to your disk, since 15 superblock copies are dead?
[11:25] <ZoF> letter: I would be surprised if your data isn't lost
[11:26] <letter> bekks: it's a dd image, what i know i only ran fsck
[11:26] <bekks> letter: So what happened to that disk that 15 superblock copies are gone?
[11:27] <ZoF> letter: you did try to repair using thos alternative superblocks right?
[11:27] <letter> bekks: with an operating system installation i unintentionally overwrote my mbr and restored it with testdisk
[11:27] <letter> ZoF: yes i did
[11:28] <bekks> letter: A misplaced MBR does not affect any filesystems or partitions.
[11:28] <Space-Duck> If your home linux network needed to support 7 users (or more) with 3 users being able connect at once(3 physical machines). What would be the best way to setup?
[11:28] <bekks> letter: So did you overwrite your ext4 with another OS?
[11:28] <Space-Duck> Use 3 desktops and a NAS for storage/backup? 1 server and 3 thin clients? Something else? I'd like to stay around $5,000 if possible.
[11:28] <Space-Duck> In my fantasy world, I'd like to have a centralized backups, the ability to reimage a machine across the network, and store gigs of movies that stream to my TV.
[11:29] <ZoF> Space-Duck: Impossible to answer that question :) it's entirely subjective.
[11:29] <bekks> Space-Duck: Three computers, a NAS running LDAP, authentication foor 7 users via LDAP. a centralized backup on the NAS, done.
[11:29] <bekks> *for
[11:29] <bekks> ZoF: ^
[11:29] <letter> bekks: no, just mbr, i made a backup before it (which i also lost)
[11:29] <bekks> letter: Then your ext4 would not have been affected at all.
[11:29] <bekks> letter: So you did quite more, right?
[11:30] <letter> bekks: two of my filesystems were corrupt after that (were overlapping in testdisk, which i found strange)
[11:30] <bekks> letter: So you did more thatn just overwriting your MBR.
[11:32] <letter> bekks: i only worked with testdisk
[11:33] <th0r> Space-Duck, I have a network you might be interested in hearing about. PM me if you want to discuss it
[11:33] <bekks> letter: Before using testdisk, you did far more than just oeverwriting your MBR. The MBR, the partition table, and the superblocks are located on different areas of your disk.
[11:33] <bekks> letter: So what did you not tell us yet?
[11:34] <letter> bekks: i honestly don't know (isn't the partition table in the mbr?)
[11:34] <Metamorphosis> any suggestions for this system?  ; http://img.susepaste.org/images/58769591.jpg
[11:35] <bekks> letter: No. The MBR is located at bytes 0-447, the partition table on non-EFI is located at bytes 448-511.
[11:35] <bekks> letter: Do you DID more.
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> Metamorphosis  describe wha you're trying to do
[11:35] <OerHeks> Metamorphosis, on what suze is this?
[11:35] <bekks> letter: Did you tell your OS to use the entire disk?
[11:36] <letter> bekks: sorry my mistake, i meant the partition table all along
[11:36] <nobbynoob> hi there. I hope someone can help me. I've set up ubuntu 16.06 lts on my lenovo x220 laptop. working great, with one exception. after setup I was able to connect to my parents wlan (fritzbox) without any problems. now I'm home trying to get internet on it without success. it's connected to my netgear router,getting an ip(access control is on, and i
[11:36] <nobbynoob> t is added to the allowed devices) HOWEVER I can't get any internet site to load nor am I able to ping something from the terminal. any ideas?
[11:36] <bekks> letter: So you destroyed your partition table by telling your OS installation to create a new partition layout?
[11:36] <bekks> letter: And now all 15 copies of the superblock are dead?
[11:37] <admin_setools> Hi!
[11:37] <Metamorphosis> im trying to shrink some space to make an extended partition while there are already 4 primary partitions belonginfg to windows, recovery and boot
[11:37] <admin_setools> @Meta and?
[11:37] <letter> bekks: well i wanted give openbsd a try
[11:37] <bekks> Metamorphosis: you cant have an extended partition with four primary already existing.
[11:38] <admin_setools> Exactly.
[11:38] <bekks> letter: I asked you a yes/no question.
[11:38] <Metamorphosis> what should i do? i dont want to remove windows
[11:38] <letter> bekks: yes
[11:38] <OerHeks> Metamorphosis, backup and remove one partition, and do as you like
[11:38] <bekks> letter: So you most likely lost most of your data already.
[11:39] <OerHeks> in #suse they should have told you the same, no?
[11:39] <bekks> letter: Stick to photorec, and reinstall.
[11:39] <Metamorphosis> using clonezilla or something?
[11:40] <CptKirk> I had to get a new GeForce Nvidia card for 16.04
[11:40] <bekks> CptKirk: Why?
[11:40] <letter> bekks: no i restored every other partition table entry beside the two overlapping with testdisk
[11:40] <CptKirk> Apparently the AMD radeon graphic drivers aren't going to be updated for it for a year
[11:41] <bekks> letter: And all the space that was physically used for the other OS you tried was overwritten.
[11:41] <CptKirk> I had crashed.
[11:41] <CptKirk> quite a lot
[11:41] <CptKirk> every hour lol
[11:41] <CptKirk> total freeze. couldnt even open up a new terminal
[11:42] <letter> bekks: i aborted the installation, it only overwrote the partition table (testdisk only had a problem with two partitions it seems like)
[11:42] <bekks> letter: And 14 copies of the superblocks, and the data in between.
[11:43] <letter> bekks: i made the image after a fsck, i don't know the details anymore
[11:43] <bekks> letter: And did you let fsck fix errors?
[11:45] <letter> bekks: maybe the image is damaged? or incomplete because of the wrong partition table, that could be the answer!
[11:45] <bekks> letter: How large is your disk?
[11:46] <letter> bekks: ~467GiB
[11:46] <bekks>  letter: How large is your image?
[11:46] <coasty2> please help me with something. This is quite baffling. I have a shell script that requires sudo to run properly. The script works if I do "morning.sh" (with a lot of errors about not being root), but if I try "sudo morning.sh" it says "command not found"
[11:47] <letter> bekks: my image is only of one partition after a fsck (i lost the full image)
[11:47] <\9> coasty2: sudo uses a hardcoded, restricted PATH. use the full path to the script
[11:47] <coasty2> \9, I was in the directory of the script.
[11:47] <xenomorph_xx_121> hi, if i have two versions of g++ installed, how can i tell cmake/make to use the older version?
[11:47] <coasty2> anyway
[11:47] <\9> then use -/morning.sh
[11:47] <bekks> letter: Cool, so you are operating on a totally worthless partial image, wasting your and our time.
[11:47] <\9> ./morning.sh *
[11:47] <coasty2> turns out I needed to write "sudo sh morning.sh"
[11:48] <\9> that also works
[11:48] <letter> bekks: oh
[11:48] <coasty2> without sudo it's just morning.sh but with sudo I need to add the sh
[11:48] <coasty2> for some reason
[11:48] <bekks> coasty2: So your script does not contain a script header.
[11:48] <letter> bekks: well thanks for the help anyways
[11:48] <coasty2> bekks, it does, the first line is #!/bin/bash
[11:48] <\9> coasty2: suppose your current dir is in PATH for some reason
[11:48] <bekks> coasty2: then using sudo to invoke sh to invoke bash is nonsense.
[11:49] <\9> coasty2: or your shell is configured to find commands in the current directory
[11:49] <\9> sudo ./morning.sh should in any case work fine
[11:50] <coasty2> \9, what exactly does ./ do?
[11:50] <Sam54> Hello, I'm trying to reinstall Ubuntu : I have an SSD with ubuntu installed on it (I want to remove it because I can't start it) and a Live-USB. Strangly I can't access the bios or grub by pressing Shift / Space / Espace / Del / F2. When I boot the system start on the SSD and not on the Live-USB. How could I tell the system to start on the Live-USB ?
[11:50] <coasty2> does it do anything or is it just a sort of indicator for the current folder
[11:50] <Ben64> coasty2: ./ = the directory you're currently in
[11:50] <coasty2> huh
[11:50] <coasty2> seems weird that I'd need to specify using the current directory
[11:51] <cfhowlett> Sam54, your hardware manual or support will tell you the precise key to enter bios
[11:51] <ZoF> coasty2: it shorthand for your current directory
[11:51] <coasty2> I mean, it's a pretty obvious first choice
[11:51] <coasty2> but ok
[11:51] <Capum321> hello
[11:51] <Capum321> how to run a command, after wake up from suspended system - with anacron or system-sleep ? - and parse? the login credentials to DM, so the script can run a GUI app, like a irc client.
[11:56] <MelRay> Anyone know of an all inclusive installation to setup an email server that includes browser based (webmail) email as well?
[11:57] <newk14> Hi - I have a question about resizing my root partition. I've just resized it using gparted and a lot of prayers; I'm now looking to get ubuntu to recognise I have 100 extra GB available to it. Any suggestions?
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:58] <ZoF> newk14: are you using lvm?
[11:59] <OerHeks> MelRay, running an emailserver takes a lot of knowledge, work and maintenance, there is no out-of-the-box solution, maybe you want to reask in #ubuntu-server
[12:00] <newk14> ZoF: No I'm not
[12:01] <ZoF> newk14: what is the filesystem? ext4?
[12:01] <newk14> ZoF: Yep
[12:02] <ZoF> newk14: if you've already increased the partition size you can resize2fs /dev/sdxy
[12:03] <MelRay> DerHeks: For some maybe but I don't need help with knowing how to do it. I prefer a more direct installation method that allows me to answer the questions as the components are installed. These are 3 I found still googling while posting here.   iRedMail, Mail-in-a-Box and Kolab grouware are three.
[12:06] <OerHeks> meles, oh there are tons of mailservers, but connecting to others/domain without ending up on a spamhouse list, takes a lot of time and effort.
[12:07] <ZoF> If you set up spf/ptr records and aren't sending spam you're usually fine.
[12:08] <MrTonny> hi there
[12:08] <MrTonny> can somebody help me please?
[12:08] <newk14> ZoF: I think I might have to reboot?
[12:08] <newk14> ZoF: Will be back post reboot to report. Thanks for the help so far
[12:08] <MrTonny> I have a notebook with synaptics touchpad
[12:08] <MrTonny> and I want to reflash its firmware
[12:09] <ZoF> newk14: you shouldn't have to reboot, did the fs not resize?
[12:09] <MrTonny> i know that there is eflash software for windows for it, but how can i do in in lunux?
[12:09] <MrTonny> *linux
[12:14] <Exodious> is there a way to bulk compress pictures? My pictures are all 10+ mb but i need them under 6MB
[12:15] <captainACE> hello world!
[12:16] <OerHeks> Exodious, i do that usually with gimp, load, save again with a different name, then use the slider to set compression ( with preview and size)
[12:17] <cfhowlett> Exodious, you can use imagemagick to bulk compress
[12:17] <Exodious> thanks bros
[12:18] <OerHeks> imagemagick can do that too, maybe better.
[12:19]  * OerHeks transformed 1.8 gb moon to 100 kb on his homepage oerheks.nl
[12:20] <riqj> hello everyone, I'd like to resize an extended partition (reduce its size). there are currently 3 separate spaces under this partition; the left one and the right one are free spaces. the one in the middle is another story which is a problematic partition that I will try to rescue. so I'd like to get the free space on the left out of the extended partition so that I can use it while preserving the middle partition (keeping it in its place)..is it possible?
[12:21] <riqj> screenshot coming to better illustrate the situation
[12:22] <riqj> here it is: https://is.gd/Nexjjg
[12:23] <riqj> as I wrote, I'd like to get the 50gb space out of the extended partition and keep 3,5GB in its place
[12:24]  * riqj wonders if he asked for the impossible
[12:25] <captainACE> dont worry
[12:25] <Caper911> what?
[12:25] <captainACE> someone will surely answer
[12:25] <Capum321> how to wake the computer from suspend, without user interaction? it should be done by a bash shell script or related
[12:25] <captainACE> @riqj
[12:25] <captainACE> capum you mean did you exit GUI mode
[12:27] <Capum321> huh, probably not, the x session wouldn't be exited most of the time. but it will lock, so it should input login credentials?
[12:28] <ducasse> Capum321: you can do it with wakeonlan
[12:29] <ducasse> Capum321: but there is obviously nothing you can run on the machine to wake it up.
[12:30] <Capum321> what about rtcwake?
[12:30] <ducasse> Capum321: aiui, some machines can, some can't.
[12:30] <Capum321> i manage to wake with it, but i have to power the code so it run as intended finally.
[12:31] <OerHeks> !crosspost
[12:31] <riqj> and now, for the second time in the last hour, I cannot open programs when I click their launcher icon. nor via dash (nautilus und software center)
[12:33] <captainACE> which desktop would you guys recommend over mate
[12:33] <OerHeks> captainACE, use the one you like best?
[12:34] <cfhowlett> captainACE, none.  choose for yourself as it is YOUR box and preferences that matter.  easy and free to install and test
[12:34] <Capum321> ducasse, how to make it work?
[12:34] <OerHeks> i would install side-by-side, to avoid clutter of programs
[12:34] <riqj> I ended the process from sys monitor and it opened now
[12:34] <ducasse> Capum321: make what work? the machine does not process anything while suspended.
[12:37] <Capum321> `rtcwake -s 300 -m mem` this seems to work
[12:37] <Capum321> no
[12:38] <Capum321> `rtcwake -s 300 -m standby`
[12:38] <ducasse> Capum321: are you doing this on 16.10 or another version?
[12:38] <Capum321> 16.04
[12:39] <riqj> I am in gparted to resize/move the 50gb partition in the picture I pasted above. but with the given disk partitions, what am I going to enter for free space before/after it?
[12:44] <Capum321> ducasse?
[12:45] <ducasse> Capum321: yes?
[12:46] <Capum321> lost ?
[12:47] <OerHeks> Capum321, ducasse is pointing to the same thing as you got answered in #linux
[12:48] <Capum321> OerHeks: i am not braking any rules. this crossposting this is just a recomendation, no?
[12:48] <ducasse> Capum321: it is considered to be quite rude, but you don't seem to care.
[12:49] <OerHeks> Capum321, just saying.
[12:49] <riqj> ok, if I am not missing anything, it was so simple to do with gparted
[12:51] <ebony> why vpn isn't work like - https://postimg.org/image/lzkewcufr/
[12:51] <Capum321> stop annoying me, and say i can't help you... so i don't ask in multiple times like an idiot
[12:51] <cfhowlett> ebony, no details = no answers.
[12:51] <captainACE> woah a fight?
[12:51] <ducasse> Capum321: you can get the rtc to wake the machine, but that is the only internal signal you can use. nothing is being processed while the macine is suspended.
[12:52] <gvvg> Hi - is there a gui widget or front end to show the status of an ssh tunnel ? I know how to do it from the command prompt (terminal)....
[12:52] <captainACE> gandhi once said love is trash bitches need cash
[12:52] <ebony> cfhowlett, watch detalis
[12:52] <Capum321> thats a good point... but let me explain, after the machine is wake, the rest of the script should run after, no during sleep
[12:52] <captainACE> oops
[12:52] <cfhowlett> !details | ebony
[12:52] <captainACE> wrong channel
[12:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[12:53] <captainACE> hi
[12:53] <ebony> ok uhottu
[12:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> captain hi
[12:53] <captainACE> hello
[12:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> captainACE,  hi
[12:53] <captainACE> ahh yeah,,,HI again
[12:54] <ducasse> captainACE: you can have a script be triggered by the machine waking up, for example, yes.
[12:54] <captainACE> duccase what do you mean?
[12:55] <ducasse> captainACE: sorry, wrong nick tab complete. that was for Capum321
[12:55] <captainACE> ahh ok :)
[12:55] <Capum321> ducasse: ok thats seems i could work
[12:55] <Capum321> with anacron or system-sleep?
[12:56] <Capum321> with anacron is a simple template no?
[12:56] <ducasse> Capum321: not sure, but i expect systemd keeps track of acpi triggers. never done it myself.
[12:57] <ducasse> Capum321: looks like you can just drop a script in /etc/apm/resume.d
[12:58] <Capum321> maybe they would resume in /lib/systemd/system-sleep ?
[13:00] <popcorn_lover> howdy, I just downloaded the amd64 version of ubuntu and booted it from a thumbdrive. i got the first part of the install screen with a keyboard and the ubuntu logo then it sits at a blinking cursor
[13:00] <t0mb0_> Hey has anyone had issues/solved getting flash player to output sound thru hdmi?
[13:00] <cfhowlett> popcorn_lover, could be many things.  first thing to check is the md5sum
[13:00] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | popcorn_lover
[13:01] <popcorn_lover> might as well start at the beginning =)
[13:01] <Capum321> ducasse, where i really want to get is how to input the login credentials, since the suspend action would lock the system
[13:03] <ducasse> Capum321: can't think of anything, best way would be to have it not lock in the first place.
[13:03] <Capum321> i see
[13:05] <yhb> hihi
[13:05] <MrTonny> well, noone can help me with synaptics touch?)
[13:06] <OerHeks> MrTonny, just reading back: no, flashng on linux is a project that needs attention. do it from windows, or perhaps from within your bios?
[13:07] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate
[13:09] <MrTonny> OerHeks, windows version not working cerrctly for me - that's a problem((
[13:09] <Industrial> Hi!
[13:10] <Industrial> How do I control my network from the commandline instead of the topright button in Unity?
[13:10] <Industrial> I want to be able to disable my cable connection
[13:10] <Industrial> and join a specific preconfigured wireless network
[13:11] <tomreyn> nm-cli
[13:11] <Industrial> (configured using the dropdown thing)
[13:11] <Industrial> thanks!
[13:11] <MrTonny> but i never consider, that you can reflash such a device from BIOS...
[13:11] <MrTonny> ok, ill try to figure it out
[13:11] <MrTonny> thanks anyway
[13:12] <tomreyn> Industrial: actually just "nmcli", without the hyphon
[13:13] <tomreyn> btw. the "topright button in unity" is the Network Manager (Gnome) GUI.
[13:13] <Industrial> Oh man this is AWESOME
[13:14] <Industrial> I'm using xmonad and this is the only reason i needed to go back into unity all the time. to use sudo rights to edit/add networks etc
[13:24] <cataract> Hello
[13:27] <ducasse> Industrial: you can use the nm gui in xmonad too, at least it works fine in i3. try 'nm-applet'.
[13:31] <Capum321> ducasse maybe this could be worked out to apply login credentials to x session http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/10126/126167
[13:32] <notadeveloper> xD
[13:34] <Capum321> and put the script to run on /lib/systemd/system/anacron-resume.service
[13:35] <Capum321> to be called... the service unit would be in  /etc/systemd/user
[13:36] <Paprikachu_> hi, is there a way to override the behaviour of the menu bar
[13:36] <Paprikachu_> i would like to always have the menu there without the window titles
[13:38] <Paprikachu_> or if it can be done, just the name of the application, followed by the menu
[13:43] <fizlik> hello
[13:44] <fizlik> i have problem with dos blocking my computer with Ubuntu OS
[13:44] <Guest60624> hi
[13:44] <Guest60624> having problems.with vaio p gma 500. ubuntu doesnt support it?
[13:45] <Guest60624> it gives me an error on usb boot installation pipes...
[13:45] <fizlik> Router TP Link WR741N or ND
[13:46] <Guest60624> gma 500 isn't supported?
[13:46] <popcorn_lover> alright, i have verified that I have the correct md5 hash for 16.04.1 desktop amd64
[13:46] <popcorn_lover> now, ancillary question: is that the correct version for a xeon E5 processor?
[13:46] <frenda> Hi
[13:47] <popcorn_lover> howdy
[13:47] <frenda> I'm going to install a program called Lammps
[13:47] <frenda> that happens when I run this command: make openmpi
[13:47] <fizlik> somebody know how to fix that
[13:47] <tak_fate> 12321
[13:47] <frenda> I also do this:
[13:47] <frenda> sudo apt-get install build-essential openmpi-bin openmpi-doc libopenmpi-dev fftw2 fftw-dev
[13:47] <fizlik> on it runned call of duty united offensive game server
[13:47] <frenda> I also did* this ^
[13:48] <popcorn_lover> howdy, I just downloaded the amd64 version of ubuntu and booted it from a thumbdrive. i got the first part of the install screen with a keyboard and the ubuntu logo then it sits at a blinking cursor
[13:48] <popcorn_lover> i have verified that I have the correct md5 hash for 16.04.1 desktop amd64
[13:48] <Guest60624> no one could help me?
[13:50] <popcorn_lover> Guest60624 it appears to have been supported in 12
[13:50] <popcorn_lover> Guest60624: here's a thread about it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/119889/how-to-boot-with-intel-gma500-poulsbo-graphics
[13:50] <bipul> I would like to have discussions on pvmove command.
[13:50] <ubuntu717> Hello Everyone
[13:50] <fizlik> i find it something about iptables but i have the same problem after doing that
[13:50] <bipul> What exactly pvmove command do?
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> bipul  in a terminal, type   man pvmove
[13:51] <bipul> MonkeyDust, I did that, but failed to understand practical use.
[13:52] <bipul> it's practical use.*
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> its*
[13:52] <Guest60624> popcorn_lover sad it isn't supported out of the box on 16.
[13:53] <popcorn_lover> bipul, i'm not sure exactly how pvmove works however the quick synopsis I got out of it was that it reallocates the extents (the memory blocks) from one drive to another
[13:54] <ubuntu717> Hello Everyone, kindly need some help here with upgrading openssl in ubuntu 14 - http://piratepad.net/kJcM3Nunn4
[13:55] <popcorn_lover> bipul, if that's correct it would be useful for transferring data from one hard drive and allocating additional space on one virtual drive using several physical drives
[13:55] <bipul> Means from /dev/sda1 to /dev/sda3
[13:55] <fizlik>  Whether steam game server can be the reason for blocking computer?
[13:55] <ubuntu717> Hello Everyone, kindly need some help here with upgrading openssl in ubuntu 14 - http://piratepad.net/kJcM3Nunn4
[13:56] <fizlik> as a possible DDoS attack
[13:56] <bipul> Hold on let me share my data with ubuntu pastebine.
[13:57] <N1_> hi everybody
[13:57] <ducasse> ubuntu717: easy - upgrade to 16.04. second option: find a ppa with more recent openssl, at your own risk.
[13:57] <ubuntu717> ducasse, I'm running a webserver, I do not want to have issue
[13:57] <ubuntu717> *issues
[13:58] <N1_> which the best irc ????
[13:58] <ducasse> ubuntu717: then upgrade to 16.04
[13:59] <Acou_Bass> hey guys, I'm trying to boot an Ubuntu USB stick to install it, but it's not showing up in the uefi screen... am i doing something wrong? xD
[13:59] <ikonia> you're more likley to have issues not knowing what you are doing trying to upgrade openssl, than just trusting the ubuntu development team to supply the best available ssl possible to your version ubuntu717
[13:59] <ubuntu717> @ducasse isn't the upgrade going to upgrade everything? wouldn't that break NGINX, PHP and Mysql?
[13:59] <ikonia> ubuntu717: why do you want to upgrade openssl
[13:59] <ikonia> what is hte problem with what you have
[14:00] <ubuntu717> ikonia, I just want to have TLS1,1 & TLS1,2 enabled
[14:00] <ubuntu717> http://piratepad.net/kJcM3Nunn4
[14:00] <ikonia> ubuntu717: what's stopping you
[14:00] <ubuntu717> I'm afraid of breaking the system
[14:00] <fizlik> hello ikonia
[14:00] <ubuntu717> as I have users using the system
[14:01] <fizlik> where are you from?
[14:01] <ikonia> ubuntu717: why would enabling TLS 1.2 and 1.1 break the system
[14:01] <ubuntu717> *webserver
[14:01] <ikonia> ubuntu717: why do you want to upgrade the openssl version
[14:01] <Mahe_> hi iam using 16.04 ,y always i  can't enter sudo password
[14:01] <fizlik> sorry
[14:01] <ubuntu717> ikonia, because I have to
[14:02] <fizlik> ako si sa mojih prostora mozda bi mogao nesto da mi pomognes
[14:02] <ikonia> ubuntu717: why do you have to upgrade
[14:02] <ubuntu717> Because, I have to
[14:02] <ikonia> ubuntu717: I need more info than "I have to" - why do you have to upgrade, what is the reason
[14:02] <Mahe_> any one help me
[14:02] <ubuntu717> according to sslcheck I have an F https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/
[14:02] <ikonia> Mahe_: you need to ask a question first
[14:03] <ikonia> ubuntu717: why do you have an F - what is the reason
[14:03] <ubuntu717> http://piratepad.net/kJcM3Nunn4
[14:03] <ikonia> ubuntu717: that doesn't answer my question
[14:03] <ikonia> ubuntu717: why do you have an F
[14:03] <ubuntu717> TLS1.1 & TLS1,2 do not seem to be available
[14:03] <Mahe_> always i can't enter my password while using sudo cmd
[14:03] <ikonia> ubuntu717: why are they not available
[14:04] <ikonia> Mahe_: explain what you mean
[14:04] <ubuntu717> because it is using the version OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6
[14:04] <ubuntu717> which needs to be upgraded.
[14:04] <ikonia> ubuntu717: is tls 1.2 not available in 1.0.1f ?
[14:04] <ubuntu717> it does not seem to be available
[14:04] <Mahe_> how to use sudo cmnd
[14:05] <ikonia> ubuntu717: no, not "does it seem available' IS it available
[14:05] <ubuntu717> but it is setup in the NGINX File
[14:05] <ikonia> Mahe_: sudo command
[14:05] <ikonia> ubuntu717: nginx is not ssl
[14:05] <Mahe_> yes
[14:05] <ubuntu717> ok, ikonia, then I do enable?
[14:05] <ubuntu717> TLS1,1 & TLS1,2
[14:05] <ikonia> ubuntu717: what ?
[14:05] <ubuntu717> In Ubuntu 13
[14:05] <ubuntu717> *UBuntu 14
[14:06] <Mahe_> why use sudo command
[14:06] <kang_> hey
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> Mahe_  what happens when you you type     sudo apt update
[14:06] <ikonia> Mahe_: to gain extra privileges
[14:06] <ubuntu717> ikonia, how do I enable TLS1.1 & TLS1.2?
[14:06] <fizlik> somebody know something about game hosting,ddos,dos settings?
[14:06] <ikonia> ubuntu717: you need to understand why your SSL score is so low - and what can be done with a.) the SSL config on your host b.) the webserver using SSL on your host to resolve that
[14:06] <ikonia> fizlik: that's just random words
[14:06] <ikonia> fizlik: try to ask an actual question
[14:06] <kang_> kulo tiyang jawi mboten saget bahas ingris
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> kang_  that's not true
[14:07] <ducasse> fizlik: you have a router issue, not an ubuntu issue. ask in ##networking
[14:07] <fizlik> well i have an game server runned as localhost and my router alway blocking it
[14:08] <ikonia> fizlik: if it's running as local host - your router is not being touhed
[14:08] <ikonia> touched
[14:08] <fizlik> actualy every 10 min
[14:08] <ikonia> as localhost will not leave the host,
[14:08] <fizlik> that happening to me few days ago
[14:08] <ikonia> no it didn't
[14:08] <ikonia> as if you are running it on localhost - it's not touching your router
[14:09] <kang_> how to enter to darknet?
[14:09] <ikonia> if you're asking in a random IRC channel - you have already failed, sorry
[14:09] <ikonia> kang_: we only support ubuntu here
[14:10] <kang_> i'm sorry
[14:10] <ikonia> thats fine
[14:11] <ubuntu717> @ikonia check pm
[14:11] <ikonia> no
[14:11] <ikonia> just talk in the channel
[14:11] <kang_> ikonia : what a autopilot in ubuntu?
[14:11] <fizlik> if i turn off dos security in my router everithing work fine
[14:12] <pathworker> @kang your quickest route into the darknet(but not exactly the "darkest" route is by using the tor browser bondle..;-)
[14:12] <ikonia> kang_: no idea what an autopilot is
[14:12] <ikonia> fizlik: then you are not running on localhost
[14:12] <fizlik> but if is enabled alway blocking me
[14:12] <ubuntu717> ikonia, I'm not going to disclose the website domain name
[14:12] <fizlik> well localhost i mean home server
[14:12] <OerHeks> kang_, autopilot as in flightgear?
[14:12] <fizlik> with internet connection
[14:13] <dave_uy> How can I view the logs a specific users cron? I tried `journalctl -u cron -f` but I didn't see much for specific users.
[14:13] <kang_> ikonia : openstack in ubuntu?
[14:14] <OerHeks> kang_, oh, cloud http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/openstack/autopilot
[14:14] <ikonia> ubuntu717: ok, don't
[14:14] <ikonia> fizlik: localhost is very different than home server
[14:14] <kang_> thanks oerHenks
[14:14] <ikonia> fizlik: you need to learn how to use your router, the rourter support resources (forums, etc) will help with that
[14:15] <kang_> why don't ikonia?
[14:15] <ikonia> kang_: why don't what ?
[14:15] <ubuntu717> ikonia, either way thank you for your help.
[14:15] <ikonia> ubuntu717: no problem - just don't upgrade your SSL
[14:15] <ikonia> more so as you don't seem to understand what you are doing
[14:15] <Guest27422> how to install flash in raspberry Pi
[14:16] <ikonia> I don't think there is arm support for linux flash
[14:16] <fizlik> ok thank you very much
[14:20] <expert> could somebody help me with installing Linux/Ubuntu on an Android TV Box (running ARM processor) that does not have an sdcard, only internal memory?
[14:20] <ikonia> nope
[14:20] <OerHeks> expert, no usb port to boot from? than you are doomed
[14:21] <expert> I have got two
[14:21] <expert> thanks for the response
[14:21] <ducasse> expert: try #ubuntu-arm
[14:21] <OerHeks> expert, then download an arm version?
[14:21] <OerHeks> !arm
[14:21] <ikonia> you can't just dump arm versions on any arm device
[14:21] <expert> awesome
[14:22] <OerHeks> oh, correct, not for arm 6
[14:22] <akik> expert: did you search for the solution yourself?
[14:22] <expert> let me see what i have
[14:22] <ikonia> more so on things like TV boxes that will have specific hardware
[14:22] <ikonia> just can't approach things like that
[14:23] <expert> akik, i googled but most if not all of them are guides to install on an sdcard
[14:23] <OerHeks> THere must be a forumpost somewhere of users who have tried ( your specific hardware)
[14:25] <expert> A20 Dual Core T processor
[14:25] <expert> if that helps
[14:25] <ikonia> nope
[14:25] <akik> expert: you need to search with the model number of the device
[14:26] <ikonia> you can't approach it like this
[14:26] <expert> it's a cheap tv box my friend bought of some chinese website that i wanna bring into some good use may be
[14:26] <akik> expert: still.. there will be a model number
[14:26] <expert> yeah trying to find on the board
[14:27] <notadeveloper> someone check my site
[14:27] <ikonia> nope
[14:27] <notadeveloper> www.xdlogic.com
[14:27] <ikonia> notadeveloper: we do ubuntu support here - not spam response
[14:27] <akik> expert: i think you'll get more help from #ubuntu-arm
[14:29] <OerHeks> notadeveloper, get a ssl thingy.
[14:29] <notadeveloper> ok
[14:31] <teknoprep> hi all ... does anyone know how to get twinview to work on 16.04 with nvidia... i am not liking xinerama at all
[14:31] <ikonia> teknoprep: in what way not liking it ?
[14:32] <ikonia> teknoprep: you just need to set the setting twinview in the xorg.conf
[14:32] <teknoprep> i have 6 monitors
[14:32] <teknoprep> 3 are on 1 video card the other 3 are on the other
[14:32] <ikonia> teknoprep: twinview is normally 2 monitors, 3 max from memory
[14:32] <ikonia> twinview can't cross viewcards, ports have to be on the same video
[14:32] <teknoprep> what happens is it creates 2 X screens that span across 2 sets of 3
[14:33] <ikonia> teknoprep: sounds like you just need to map it out better,
[14:33] <ikonia> not swap to twinview
[14:33] <teknoprep> ok sounds like a plan
[14:33] <teknoprep> let me ask you this... the nvidia configuration tool created this for me... i will post on pastbin
[14:33] <rober> hello i need help with ubuntu.
[14:33] <notadeveloper> is aws free or should i try azure
[14:33] <teknoprep> LOL rober ... more info required
[14:34] <ikonia> notadeveloper: thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:34] <teknoprep> AWS EC2
[14:34] <teknoprep> azure sucks
[14:34] <ikonia> notadeveloper: we support ubuntu here only
[14:34] <ikonia> notadeveloper: not cloud opinions or your website spam
[14:34] <ikonia> please stick to ubuntu discussion only
[14:34] <teknoprep> i only use Microsoft cloud for Exchange / Office applications
[14:34] <teknoprep> ubuntu runs great on AWS EC2
[14:34] <teknoprep> ubuntu is the best on ec2
[14:35] <popcorn_lover> pretty sure you have to pay for instances for EC2
[14:35] <teknoprep> is that better for being on topic if i just tell him my opinion of ec2 and ubuntu
[14:35] <ikonia> teknoprep: not really
[14:35] <teknoprep> and how it doesn't work well on azure with ubutnu
[14:35] <teknoprep> ok back to nvidia and xineram x11 stuff
[14:36] <popcorn_lover> did you have any issues getting your nvidia card to work correctly on 16.04?
[14:36] <teknoprep> http://pastebin.com/T6CyUD1N
[14:37] <popcorn_lover> I'm starting a fresh install using 16.04.1 and I get a blinking cursor when I try to boot up
[14:37] <teknoprep> popcorn_lover, a little bit... i have to use nomodeset since i am using gtx950
[14:37] <teknoprep> popcorn_lover, try this --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/760374/ubuntu-16-04-nvidia-driver-blank-screen
[14:37] <popcorn_lover> is there a list of cards that require the nomodeset?
[14:37] <popcorn_lover> thanks
[14:37] <teknoprep> you have to do it from boot up off the CD
[14:37] <teknoprep> then once again on first boot
[14:38] <teknoprep> then you need to apt-get purge the nouveau driver... then install the latest nvidia-370
[14:38] <popcorn_lover> ok, i'll have to edit grub on the USB stick then try
[14:38] <teknoprep> you will need PPA for the ubuntu nvidia-370 drivers from my understanding unless you download from ubuntu
[14:38] <teknoprep> no... just boot up
[14:38] <teknoprep> and hit E
[14:38] <rober> hello i installed ubuntu in a notebook with uefi windows 10 acer aspire es1-512-c88m.  Appear this message "intel_soc_dts_thermal: request_threaded_irq ret -22"
[14:39] <teknoprep> does your USB driver boot to a grub boot screen when loading ?>
[14:39] <popcorn_lover> no, i get the first part of the install screen with a keyboard and the ubuntu logo
[14:39] <popcorn_lover> then it goes to a blinking cursor
[14:39] <rober> anybody can help me? thanks a lot
[14:39] <teknoprep> ikonia, any idea on that pastebin ?
[14:39] <ikonia> not even looked at it
[14:39] <teknoprep> lol rober
[14:40] <teknoprep> ikonia, oh my bad... i just need to understand how to have seperate screens when using xinerama
[14:40] <teknoprep> you know what i didn't try
[14:40] <teknoprep> making each monitor its own screen
[14:40] <teknoprep> and then using xinerama
[14:40] <teknoprep> brb
[14:43] <Disaster_Area> back with issues with not having flash player
[14:43] <Disaster_Area> another site I use to watch videos on doesnt seem happy that I don't have one :x
[14:43] <ikonia> stop using sites that depend on flash
[14:43] <Disaster_Area> anyone here found a way to watch stuff on watchcartoononline w/o a flash player?
[14:44] <ikonia> the more you try to work around it - the more problems you'll have
[14:44] <Disaster_Area> its hard to find certain stuff tho
[14:44] <ikonia> flash is dead on linux, and dying in general
[14:44] <OerHeks> Disaster_Area, chrome maybe?
[14:44] <Disaster_Area> nah fuck chrome l0l
[14:44] <ikonia> Disaster_Area: please don't swear
[14:44] <ikonia> there is no need for it, and it's not welcome
[14:44] <OerHeks> adobe gives a resurrection with its beta flash :-(
[14:44] <Disaster_Area> i'd rather install flash and use it for this site
[14:44] <Disaster_Area> than use an inferior browser
[14:46] <ssspark> Hi guys! I was wondering if anyone here has any experience solving the black screen issue with nvidia and ubuntu 16.04; lots of reports on the web can be found, but nothing solves the problem on my end. Any ideas, anyone?
[14:47] <ssspark> Hi guys! I was wondering if anyone here has any experience solving the black screen issue with nvidia and ubuntu 16.04; lots of reports on the web can be found, but nothing solves the problem on my end. Any ideas, anyone?
[14:47] <ssspark> (dual card laptop situation btw)
[14:47] <rober> anybody install ubuntu in an acer aspire?
[14:47] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[14:48] <ssspark> OerHeks: yeah well everything works fine using the card in intel mode, but prime-selecting nvidia (and logging out/in) gives me a black screen with a cursor top left.
[14:48] <ssspark> OerHeks: yeah well everything works fine using the card in intel mode, but prime-selecting nvidia (and logging out/in) gives me a black screen with a cursor top left.
[14:49] <ikonia> ssspark: not sure why but you seem to repeat each reply you make 2 times
[14:49] <OerHeks> ssspark, what are the specs of your nvidia card?
[14:49] <OerHeks> and intel
[14:49] <ssspark> ikonia: so you see this two times? (I'm using the web chat of freenode)
[14:50] <ssspark> OerHeks: quadro m1000m, and I believe intel 915? (it's a dell ubuntu supported laptop: precision 5510)
[14:50] <Disaster_Area> ok I'm going to redownload flash player; is there any way I can configure which sites use flash player and which ones don't?
[14:50] <ssspark> OerHeks: quadro m1000m, and I believe intel 915? (it's a dell ubuntu supported laptop: precision 5510)
[14:50] <teknoprep> ikonia, yoyo.. that worked.. i don't know why i didn't think of making each monitor an x screen before
[14:50] <ssspark> oerheks: intel 530, skylake
[14:50] <Disaster_Area> ssspark I saw all of those messages twice except for the one where you asked whether we saw it twice
[14:51] <OerHeks> ssspark, don't fool us with double lines, you forgot to press up and eter while answering ikonia
[14:51] <ssspark> ehm, let met re-login
[14:52] <ssspark> better?
[14:53] <ssspark> Oerheks: any suggestions? (or did I miss anything while logging out/in)
[14:55] <expert> armeabi-v7a, does that help guys?
[14:55] <expert> sorry, referring to installing linux arm on an android tv box
[14:57] <OerHeks> ssspark, skylake, intel hd530 .. i think you need to wait for the 4.6 kernel or higher , next month 16.10 comes out.
[14:59] <teknoprep> anyone know how to move icons on the dock bar?
[14:59] <ssspark> Oerheks: I've tried 4.6.2 and 4.7.3, no difference at all (also tried almost all versions of the nvidia driver). What's strange to me is that a clean 16.04 install with nvidia-370 drivers immediately worked. But after a few suspends/reboots I'm back to the black screen... it's almost as if the card gets in some sort of messed up state (one that doesn't get reset by a reboot).
[14:59] <ducasse> expert: did you try #ubuntu-arm as was suggested several times?
[14:59] <expert> ducasse, yeah trying there too. sorry
[14:59] <OerHeks> ssspark, with that info, maybe your card suffers a heating issue
[15:00] <OerHeks> or suspend does not pick up right
[15:00] <ssspark> Oerheks: I don't think so - using bumblebee I'm able to run some steam games using the nvidia card (but I want to run X on nvidia completely)
[15:01] <ssspark> Oerheks: I don't think so - using bumblebee I'm able to run some steam games using the nvidia card (but I want to run X on nvidia completely)
[15:01] <kuzeb> sdgsdggsdg:q
[15:01] <ikonia> if you're running steam games on nvidia - your x server is nvidia
[15:02] <OerHeks> ssspark, steam makes no sense, you point to change + logout/login and then suspend/reboot.
[15:02] <ssspark> ikonia: I mean I'm running some of the games succesfully using 'primusrun'
[15:03] <ssspark> ikonia: I mean I'm running some of the games succesfully using 'primusrun'
[15:03] <ikonia> again with the double quoting everything ?
[15:05] <ssspark> ikonia: http://pasteboard.co/1Q8E2f6jD.png
[15:05] <ssspark> ikonia: http://pasteboard.co/1Q8E2f6jD.png
[15:05] <ikonia> can you please stop doing whatever you are doing that double pastes everything
[15:06] <ssspark> ikonia: hey this is just the freenode webchat service, you should file a bug if you feel there's something wrong with that service, no?
[15:06] <ikonia> no
[15:06] <ssspark> ikonia: hey this is just the freenode webchat service, you should file a bug if you feel there's something wrong with that service, no?
[15:06] <ikonia> ssspark: it only affects you
[15:06] <ikonia> no-one else
[15:06] <ikonia> so it's something you are doing
[15:06] <ssspark> it looks fine on my end, why is not just you?
[15:06] <ikonia> no
[15:06] <ikonia> as someone confirmed to you earlier
[15:07] <cfhowlett> ssspark, you are double posting.  check your specs
[15:08] <ssspark> let's see if this also happens in firefox
[15:09] <ssspark_firefox> 1 2 3 test?
[15:11] <ssspark_firefox> well? does this also show up twice
[15:13] <ro63r1> hello is anyone on
[15:15] <ro63r1> When is the next linux related meeting on the gulfcoast
[15:16] <ro63r1> that was directed to everyone
[15:16] <ro63r1> so anyone may answer
[15:16] <\9> that's kind of the point of the channel
[15:16] <ducasse> ro63r1: try ##linux
[15:17] <ro63r1> I am not familular with the channel
[15:17] <ro63r1> i am just getting used to it
[15:18] <ducasse> ro63r1: we do ubuntu support only
[15:18] <ro63r1> I am still alittle new to ubuntu
[15:19] <ro63r1> when is the next ubuntu meeting on the gulf coast
[15:20] <rober> i have an acer noteboook es1-512-c88m with uefi windows 10. i installed ubuntu but when i start ubuntu give me the message "intel_soc_dts_thermal: request_threaded_irq ret -22"
[15:22] <rober> but if i acccess ubuntu from "ubuntu safety mode" and then go to ubuntu. then i start ubuntu normally
[15:23] <elias_a> rober: Some other ppl have discussed the same problem: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2283417&page=4
[15:24] <ro63r1>  when is the next ubuntu meeting on the gulf coast
[15:24] <ducasse> ro63r1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/798022/freezing-and-getting-this-on-every-boot-kernel-intel-soc-dts-thermal-request/798112
[15:26] <ro63r1> sorry but that was  ( rober ) that asked that question about the boot up problems
[15:26] <ducasse> ro63r1: sorry, meant for rober
[15:26] <ducasse> ro63r1: look here for a local channel, then ask there: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[15:38] <skinux> Do the APIs exist to create GUI apps that look as good as Windows apps?
[15:38] <ikonia> skinux: you understand that means nothing
[15:38] <ikonia> api's do not create gui apps
[15:39] <OerHeks> skinux, even *if* they exist, we get expensive lawsuites
[15:41] <skinux> I didn't say the exact same UIs as Windows.
[15:41] <skinux> But, ability to have more colorful GUIs for one thing.
[15:42] <natmal> Could someone please help me figure out why unattended-upgrade isn't sending emails, even though it's configured to do so, and it seems to be applying updates correctly?
[15:42] <ikonia> skinux: have a look at ubuntu - it has colourful gui applications
[15:42] <skinux> I'm already using Ubuntu, it's almost the only distro I've ever used.
[15:42] <OerHeks> colourfull borders and a panel are so important, never got it why
[15:43] <skinux> brb
[15:43] <ikonia> skinux: so then you can see the gui apps are colours
[15:46] <R063R1> Am i able to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04
[15:46] <ikonia> yes
[15:47] <R063R1> am i able to recive a disk for it
[15:47] <ikonia> from where ?
[15:47] <R063R1> and how much will it cost
[15:47] <ikonia> from where ?
[15:47] <ikonia> who are you wanting to get a disk from
[15:47] <R063R1> ubuntu
[15:48] <OerHeks> R063R1, maybe a friend can burn one, or visit a local community day. shipit has stopped sending iso's.
[15:48] <ikonia> ubuntu is a linux distro
[15:48] <elias_a> R063R1: Download the disk image, write a bootable USB stick and that's it.
[15:48] <elias_a> ikonia: You haven't been around for long, have you? ;-)
[15:48] <ducasse> R063R1: you can also upgrade over the network
[15:49] <OerHeks> elias_a, longer than me :-D
[15:49] <ikonia> elias_a: what ?
[15:49] <OerHeks> lolz
[15:49] <R063R1> how do I upgrade over the network
[15:49] <ikonia> !upgrade | R063R1
[15:50] <elias_a> ikonia: Just thinking that if you cannot see that the question R063R1 is asking is caused by the old Shipit service... :)
[15:50] <ikonia> elias_a: which is long documented dead
[15:50] <elias_a> ikonia: Never mind...
[15:50] <ikonia> so getting a clear idea of who he expects to ship this is pretty key
[15:51] <R063R1> do you know the code for it because I have learned how to use the terminal
[15:51] <ikonia> R063R1: read the link ubottu gave you
[15:51] <John_Montone> Whats up guys!
[15:51] <ubuntu717> ikonia, you where right, it was nginx configuration, it seems that nginx concats all the sites configurations into just one & will enable everything.
[15:58] <bipul> I am unable to create lv size of 4088 M , When i have total PE 1022. As it says " Volume group "vg-bipul" has insufficient free space (0 extents): 1022 required."
[15:58] <ikonia> bipul: so you don't have any space
[15:58] <ikonia> it's that simple
[15:59] <bipul> ikonia, But as per rule, i can create 4088M size of logical volume on my Volume group vg-bipul.
[15:59] <ikonia> what rule
[16:00] <ikonia> you can't create anything - you have no space left
[16:00] <ikonia> so I'm not sure what you are saying
[16:00] <ikonia> your volume group has zero space
[16:00] <bipul> Since it says Total number of P.E Physical extent i.e default 4MB, will allow you to create your own logical volume.
[16:01] <ikonia> bipul: what says that ?
[16:01] <ikonia> bipul: and please don't cross-post your questions seconds apart
[16:01] <ikonia> bipul: you have zero space in your volume group - what is "it" thats saying you have more
[16:01] <bipul> You can not exceed the size of the LV more then your Total P.E size
[16:01] <ikonia> bipul: yes, you have ZERO space in your volume group
[16:01] <natmal> Is there a separate channel for Ubuntu Server support?
[16:01] <ikonia> natmal: #ubuntu-server
[16:01] <OerHeks> !server
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> natmal  #ubuntu-server
[16:01] <ikonia> you can also ask here
[16:02] <natmal> I've asked my question about unattended-upgrade about four times and no one has even acknowledged me.
[16:02] <natmal> I'll try the server channel.
[16:02] <tatertots> bipul: would you like some assistance investigating this?
[16:02] <ikonia> natmal: probably no-one paying attention, it can happen
[16:03] <bipul> tatertots, well, thank you very much for asking, if i found any question, i love to ask here
[16:03] <ikonia> bipul: I'm not sure what you're actually asking
[16:04] <ikonia> bipul: you are trying to create a logical volume bigger than you have space (you have no space)
[16:05] <OerHeks> bipul, good reason to start using ubuntu then.
[16:05] <tatertots> bipul: you're welcome, don't say i didn't offer :)
[16:05] <bipul> No i was trying to create equal size of i.e TOTAL P.E size LVM on top of my volume group.
[16:05] <bipul> tatertots, :)
[16:06] <ikonia> bipul: what command are you using that is failing
[16:07] <bipul> ikonia, thank you , between i came to know the reason of failing
[16:07] <bipul> lvcreate -n lv-bipul -L 4088M vg-bipul
[16:07] <ikonia> bipul: right that is creating a logical volume in a volume group with ZERO space
[16:08] <ikonia> bipul: I've stated that quite a few times now, so I'm not sure what you're not understanding
[16:08] <bipul> ikonia, I need to take rest :) ,
[16:12] <zenified> Hello, can someone help me troubleshoot why tsocks isn't working for me
[16:12] <zenified> and BTW, can apt-get use proxies
[16:17] <vlassis> new to this. any advice?
[16:17] <ikonia> advice on what
[16:17] <zenified> https://bpaste.net/show/06fbc12787e7
[16:17] <vlassis> yeah that was a bit general
[16:17] <zenified> this is my tsocks config
[16:19] <apb1963>  /usr/share/boot-sav/gui-g2slaunch.sh: line 29: 11520 Segmentation fault      (core dumped) $G2S $1 -g ./$PACK_NAME.glade -s ... full details here:          pastebin.com/kSjuHkPP
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> apb1963  what are you trying to do?
[16:25] <apb1963> MonkeyDust: to install a program called boot-repair
[16:26] <apb1963> MonkeyDust: to a liveUSB session.
[16:29] <blinkblink> Hi. My wifi does not work at all. I have tried all solution online
[16:30] <BluesKaj> Ihave an odd situation the .img files icons have a ? (qestion mark) in the icon on 14.04. I just reinstalled 14.04 on my laptop for stabiliity, but I never expected this ..dd-ing the .i..mg file to a usb stick utterly fails altho dd shows that it wrote the correct size to the target. Gparted just shows an unknown file ssytem with no data and the triangle warning sign
[16:35] <b-yeezi> BluesKaj: Are you unmounting the usb before you take it out?
[16:35] <ikonia> it shouldn't be mounted if he's dd'ing
[16:36] <b-yeezi> dd is usually smart enough to work even if it's mounted, but that could be the problem too
[16:37] <ikonia> dd is not smart at all
[16:38] <ikonia> dd is the dumbest tool
[16:38] <OerHeks> always 'sync' after dd
[16:39] <wow> Hi guys
[16:39] <sunshine_> hi 4 all
[16:39] <wow> hey sunshine
[16:40] <wow> where are you from?
[16:40] <teknoprep> does firefox have some hardware accelerator to make it look and render better than chrome ??
[16:40] <sunshine_> italy
[16:40] <sunshine_> and u
[16:40] <wow> Italy?
[16:40] <wow> wow
[16:40] <wow> I'm from India
[16:41] <OerHeks> teknoprep, just a different engine.
[16:42] <eggos> hello
[16:43] <tomreyn> hi there
[16:45] <wow> LOL
[16:45] <eggos> anyone have experience with Knoppix?
[16:46] <zenified> teknoprep: depends on DE, OpenGL availability, Mesa and so on
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> eggos  not supported here
[16:46] <zenified> BTW, I fixed my problem by installing Privoxy
[16:46] <zenified> and using Privoxy to forward traffic to SOCKS5 and use apt-get with Privoxy
[16:48] <sunshine_> why if i use proxychains give me always error
[16:48] <zenified> idk, I use Privoxy + SOCKS5
[16:48] <zenified> and set env var http_proxy='http://mydest:port'
[16:51] <archassault> hey
[16:51] <archassault> whats the topic
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> archassault  type   /topic
[16:53] <archassault> monkeydust
[16:55] <archassault> ']
[17:04] <vitimiti> I want to copy some music files I got in my Ubuntu to an iPad, but I can't find a way to do it, including Rhythmbox, how can I sync the iPad to transfer these files to it?
[17:04] <ikonia> vitimiti: it's just not a good solution
[17:05] <ikonia> ipad = itunes,
[17:05] <vitimiti> So I can't, that is
[17:06] <vitimiti> Thank you, ikonia
[17:07] <de-facto> !info libimobiledevice-utils
[17:08] <de-facto> !info ifuse
[17:08] <ikonia> it's not good
[17:08] <ikonia> it doesn't work well at all
[17:08] <ikonia> and each ios update breaks it
[17:08] <vitimiti> de-facto, I got it installed, of course, but I can't access anything in the iPad, and the Music folder doesn't even appear, if it even exists. I can't access the only existing folder, as a matter of fact
[17:08] <de-facto> hmm okay... :-/
[17:09] <vitimiti> I'll try with Wine
[17:09] <de-facto> maybe choose some network way? like cloud or ssh or such?
[17:09] <ikonia> nope
[17:09] <de-facto> i dont know if apple devices can do that though, never owned one
[17:09] <ikonia> they an't
[17:10] <ikonia> cna't
[17:10] <ikonia> can't
[17:10] <vitimiti> This iPad's only solution is iCloud
[17:10] <xangua> vitimiti: you won't be able with wine, use a Window install
[17:10] <vitimiti> That I don't have
[17:10] <vitimiti> I'll try this as a last resort
[17:10] <xangua> Or OSx
[17:11] <vitimiti> That I don't have, either lol
[17:11] <de-facto> just open a local http server on your ubuntu and download the files with ipad?
[17:12] <vitimiti> idk, if I can't with wine I'll just tell my mother she'll have to wait for her to have her own computer to copy the files
[17:12] <jwtiyar> where to ask ubuntu to add new keyboard ?
[17:16] <Bashing-om> apb1963: He I am back on, you up ? .. What is the status of grub'n ?
[17:18] <william__> .//color
[17:21] <notadeveloper> i have a static ip and i am running raspi i have a chat server i open ports to my router how do i connect to it
[17:22] <wow> Place-Conenct server @notadeveloper
[17:22] <wow> Places-Connect Server*
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> notadeveloper  better ask in #raspberrypi
[17:22] <ikonia> notadeveloper: with a client
[17:27] <vitimiti> iTunes route failed, I'll give up, thanks anyway, ikonia
[17:28] <porknbeans> I'm transfering back to windows, what do I do with hidden files?  Can windows handle files and folders like ".emacs.d"?
[17:34] <ophuk> Has anybody here used an APU for graphics output and installed an NVidia card for cuda programming?
[17:35] <ikonia> you can't split them very easy like that
[17:35] <ikonia> it is doable though
[17:35] <ophuk> ikonia, hmm
[17:36] <ophuk> ultimately I don't really care which is being used for graphics output but I didn't want to mess with the box to much
[17:36] <ikonia> you can do what you want, you just run the x server on one, and application against the other
[17:36] <ikonia> the key is the way the applications access the card
[17:36] <ikonia> they need to access it directly / via a device interface
[17:36] <ikonia> rather than through the x server
[17:37] <ophuk> ikonia, oh gotcha. Do you know if there is a link that shows how to do it?  When I installed the nvidia card it the display no longer worked unless I plugged into the video card
[17:37] <ikonia> ophuk: I'm not aware of one, I've done it for encyption functions before on a research project
[17:38] <ophuk> ikonia, ok, thank you. I'll see what I can figure out
[17:38] <ikonia> ophuk: from memory (and I muss stress this) there was methods of interacting with the nvidia kernel module through the nvidia/cuda toolkit
[17:39] <ikonia> ophuk: thats how I did it - although I can't remember the exact application interface I used
[17:40] <ophuk> ikonia, yeah thats what I was thinking. I have it set up on my mac but there is only one video card there, well integrated and discrete. I was just confused when the output no longer worked once I plugged in the video card until I plugged the monitors into the video card.
[17:41] <ikonia> ophuk: isn't the mac a "prime" nvidia card
[17:42] <ikonia> eg: the intel/nvidia combined setup
[17:42] <ophuk> yup
[17:42] <ikonia> so again, this is %100 from memory - not fact, I don't think you can do that, it had to be on a seperate slot when I looked at this
[17:42] <ikonia> approx 2014
[17:42] <ikonia> late 2014
[17:42] <ophuk> and it automatically switches between the two. Though when I got it set up I had to tell OS X to always use the dsicrete card
[17:43] <ikonia> so it had to be a totally seperate card and seperate pci port
[17:43] <ikonia> so I don't think you can do it with the prime setups
[17:43] <ophuk> it's a laptop so the intel graphics are much like the APU's graphics but not as powerful.
[17:44] <ikonia> yeah, I don't think that will work
[17:44] <ikonia> certainly wouldn't when I looked at this
[17:44] <ikonia> but I was using 3 - 4 nvidia cards linked together, so that may have had an implication too
[17:44] <ophuk> ikonia, gotcha.
[17:44] <ophuk> Ultimately I"m setting this up so I can run longer things since it's always on
[17:46] <ophuk> hmm...might have figured out my boot problem. Moving the PCI sata card might have mucked with the boot order
[17:46] <ophuk> yup...now it's booting.
[17:47] <ophuk> hmm...lets try something
[17:51] <Obadiah1> what is good lightweight browser for lubuntu?
[17:51] <Obadiah1> not midori
[17:51] <tanxen> for what purposes
[17:52] <Obadiah1> social media and general browsing
[17:52] <Obadiah1> checking email etc
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> !browser
[17:54] <Obadiah1> ty
[17:58] <malkauns_> does anyone else find that switching windows on Ubuntu gets laggy over time? (nvidia driver on Unity)
[17:59]  * init7 BRB BEER TIME !!
[18:00] <bekks> malkauns_: Not for me, here.
[18:10] <BluesKaj> you guys got distracted about mt use of dd, which I know how to use and am aware of it's dangers, but my original question was why the .img filles show with ? in the ion...as if dolphin doesn't recognize the file extension
[18:11] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I'm here... you here?
[18:12] <apb1963> Bashing-om:   Tried to install boot repair script;  /usr/share/boot-sav/gui-g2slaunch.sh: line 29: 11520 Segmentation fault      (core dumped) $G2S $1 -g ./$PACK_NAME.glade -s ... full details here:          pastebin.com/kSjuHkPP
[18:12] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Yup ! status ?
[18:13] <apb1963> Bashing-om: other than that... nothing has changed since last night.
[18:14] <ssc_> Hi, today I mounted a filesystem via davfs protocol. Filesystem is mounted fine and when I rebooted my machine, it didn't start up with the error exactly that partition couldn't be mounted. It took me to emergency mode, I had to comment the line and it booted fine. I want help regarding this, since I understand that my mount was not right.
[18:14] <tanxen> Obadiah1: I'm using surfraw with w3m -- it works for most casual searches
[18:14] <Obadiah2> okay ill check it out
[18:14] <Obadiah2> thanks
[18:15] <tanxen> otherwise i use chromium
[18:15] <tanxen> for social media stuff
[18:15] <tanxen> i'm using an old computer so you know...trying to keep it lightweight
[18:16] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Yuk .. " X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. " No idea of what is taking place here . Installing boot-repair on a liveUSB ?
[18:17] <t0rWh0r3> why is #ubuntu-beginners channel invite only?
[18:17] <blinkblink> Hi. I am connecting using Ethernet, wifi is not working! when i go to additional headers i cannot find Broadcom. i have tried every solution online but still the same
[18:18] <awais> hello?
[18:18] <ssc_> k1l_ you available for help?
[18:18] <Obadiah2> hi
[18:19] <bekks> !ask | ssc_
[18:19] <ssc_> bekks: I already did :D
[18:19] <bekks> ssc_: The entire channel read your question and when someone knows an answer, he/she will tell you :)
[18:19] <awais> from which country are you?
[18:19] <Obadiah2> murica
[18:19] <ssc_> Hi, today I mounted a filesystem via davfs protocol. Filesystem is mounted fine and when I rebooted my machine, it didn't start up with the error that partition couldn't be mounted. It took me to emergency mode, I had to comment the line and it booted fine. I want help regarding this, since I understand that my mount was not right.
[18:19] <ssc_> Okay sure bekks
[18:20] <bekks> ssc_: So show us your relevant line from your /etc/fstab
[18:20] <ssc_> !ask
[18:20] <ssc_> ! bekks ++
[18:20] <ssc_> !bekks ++
[18:20] <ssc_> nah, karma doesn't work here xD
[18:20] <ssc_> !help
[18:20] <bekks> ssc_: Can you please concentrate on the relevant things?
[18:21] <SwedeMike> ssc_: you have a question for relevant information 15 lines up you didn't answer.
[18:21] <apb1963> Bashing-om: yes, correct
[18:21] <ssc_> bekks: `Hi, today I mounted a filesystem via davfs protocol. Filesystem is mounted fine and when I rebooted my machine, it didn't start up with the error exactly that partition couldn't be mounted. It took me to emergency mode, I had to comment the line and it booted fine. I want help regarding this, since I understand that my mount was not right. `
[18:21] <Repsej11> I have some problems with installing Ubuntu with Dual Booting, Can anybody help me?
[18:21] <Exagone313> Repsej11: what problem?
[18:21] <bekks> ssc_: Can ou stop repaeting your question but start answering questions? Thank you.
[18:21] <ssc_> Soorry
[18:21] <ssc_> It's mistake
[18:21] <Repsej11> Can I link my Reddit post about it?
[18:21] <ssc_> I thought, I copied the line
[18:21] <ssc_> `https://cloud.vantibolli.com/remote.php/webdav /home/ssc/owncloudMount davfs user,rw,auto 0 0` bekks
[18:22] <Exagone313> ssc_: wait 2s before pressing enter
[18:22] <bekks> ssc_: As can be seen there is a extra character after the second 0
[18:22] <Repsej11> https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/529pcb/
[18:22] <Exagone313> ssc_: remove the auto option, or use a manual way. network isn't available at boot time
[18:22] <EriC^^> Repsej11: what problems, give details
[18:22] <ssc_> I put that myself before and after for this chat
[18:23] <Repsej11> EriC^^ I posted an link to my Reddit post ;)
[18:23] <ssc_> Exagone313, so what if I want it to automatically mount after startup?
[18:23] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Have you rebooted since the attempt to install boot-repair As the added source will not persist (unless you built the usb with persistence enabled ).
[18:23] <EriC^^> Repsej11: ok
[18:23] <bekks> ssc_: for network mounts, use "_netdev" option in addition to your options.
[18:23] <ssc_> bekks: so replacing auto with _netdev should work?
[18:23] <apb1963> Bashing-om: It's trying to connect to MIR... but what is MIR?
[18:24] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I have not.
[18:24] <bekks> ssc_: replacing it is nonsense. When replacing, you dont need auto and you dont need _netdev
[18:24] <bekks> ssc_: I told you: "... in addition...".
[18:25] <EriC^^> Repsej11: you need to boot ubuntu in legacy mode, choose the USB option that doesn't have UEFI in it
[18:25] <Repsej11> EriC^^ how do I do that?
[18:25] <Bashing-om> apb1963: MIR got me .. maby the alternate fir  X that is in development ?
[18:25] <ssc_> https://abc/remote.php/webdav /home/ssc/owncloudMount davfs user,_netdev,rw,auto 0 0 is that correct?
[18:25] <EriC^^> Repsej11: try to access the boot options menu while the pc boots, or fiddle with the bios and choose usb booting in csm legacy or uefi disabled
[18:26] <Repsej11> Oh ok Thanks
[18:26] <apb1963> Are you able to install boot repair?  I'll retry in case it's a machine that fell down and hopefully came back up.
[18:26] <EriC^^> np
[18:29] <apb1963> Bashing-om: ^^^
[18:30] <Bashing-om> apb1963: ?? In reference to which/what ?
[18:31] <apb1963> Bashing-om: It wanted to report the crash... so I let it.  It gathered up a bunch of info that would have been very useful to us, however I was unable to copy it from the report window.  It also failed to provide a URL so I don't know how to find the bug, or the report submitted with the bug report.
[18:31] <apb1963> Bashing-om: in reference to the crash.  Are you able to install boot repair?
[18:31] <ssc_> bekks: I added _netdev, now system boots fine but filesystem is not mounted on startup
[18:32] <Pishuw> Hi all
[18:33] <Bashing-om> apb1963: I run a real tight install . I do not install what I have no immediate need of . Presently we do not need boot-repair . If ya want to concentrate on getting grub removed from 12.04 we can continue .
[18:33] <ssc_> bekks: This is how it looks like now: https://cloud.vantibolli.com/remote.php/webdav /home/ssc/owncloudMount davfs user,rw,auto,_netdev 0 0
[18:35] <k1l_> t0rWh0r3: the channel was shut down and beginners should ask in here instead.
[18:37] <bekks> ssc_: Does ist mount manually, when running "mount /home/ssc/owncloudMount" as user ssc?
[18:38] <dave_uy> Is there a log for tasks setup in crontab for each user?
[18:38] <Tims_Tech> my sound doesnt work
[18:40] <ssc_> bekks: yes it does
[18:40] <ssc_> Does the sequence of parameters matter? bekks
[18:41] <apb1963> Bashing-om: You requested I install it yesterday... i was attempting to satisfy that request today.  If we don't need it, fine.
[18:42] <apb1963> Bashing-om: lets just continue
[18:42] <bekks> ssc_: No.
[18:44] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Good deal . Rge reason for boot repair was to identify all the parttitions . You have done that . // OK . 12.04 is installed to sdc1, can you boot sdc ?
[18:49] <hsk3> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS uses systemd. But "service" still works fine ("sudo service nginx restart"). Why?
[18:51] <k1l_> hsk3: "service" is not upstart only.
[18:52] <ssc_> k1l_ Hello
[18:52] <k1l_> hi
[18:52] <darchix> hi k1l
[18:52] <ssc_> k1l_ today I am stuck with another problem xD That is related to auto mount on boot
[18:52] <apb1963> Bashing-om: it's stuck on waiting for network configuration.  Will be past it in a minute.  Two points of note.  This disk has a full boot menu for all OS's.  And, I have disabled the other disks in the system.
[18:53] <k1l_> ssc_: davfs mount is not my business :)
[18:53] <vanit> quit
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> hsk3  /etc/init.d/[foo] restart works also
[18:53] <ssc_> k1l_ aaah I see
[18:54] <apb1963> Bashing-om: OK, it's booted.  I'm at a console.
[18:55] <apb1963> Bashing-om: Since I disabled the other disks, there is no /home and therefore I can't login through the GUI... but again... I have a VT console.
[18:56] <Bashing-om> apb1963: All we need is that terminal . confirm this is the 12.04 install ' lsb_release -a ' returns as what ?
[18:57] <atralheaven> does the order of "/etc/fstab" lines matter?
[18:57] <cncr04s> must be a valid config
[18:57] <k1l_> atralheaven: it starts on the first lines and mounts line by line.
[18:57] <apb1963> Bashing-om: confirmed.  Lets proceed please.
[18:58] <atralheaven> k1l_: so why "/boot/efi" is not first and / is?
[18:58] <k1l_> atralheaven: so mounting / partition before mounting /home makes sense.
[18:59] <k1l_> atralheaven: because / is the base layer.
[18:59] <atralheaven> k1l_: oh I got it
[18:59] <ssc_> bekks: any idea what can be wrong?
[19:00] <atralheaven> k1l_: and may I ask what "noatime" option mean? its for dates of files in their metadata?
[19:01] <k1l_> yes.
[19:01] <atralheaven> k1l_: I was suggested to set that option when im using SSD
[19:01] <atralheaven> does that really matter...?
[19:01] <apb1963> atralheaven: it's Access Time.
[19:01] <Bashing-om> apb1963: K; we procedd . tell me again you do not want to be able to boot 12.04, and we remove grub from this install . End goal is that 16.04 will boot any desired install; except 12.04  .
[19:01] <czwolf> Hi :) I have running xfce4-terminal, I would like to start a mono program running IN IT using a script. Can that be done, I mean not to start new terminal but to use that one running?
[19:01] <atralheaven> apb1963: like touch command?
[19:01] <lordcirth> atralheaven, relatime, which is the default now, is best
[19:01] <k1l_> atralheaven: isnt noatime standard now?
[19:02] <apb1963> atralheaven: If you update the SSD with each and everytime someone looks at the file, it puts unnecessary wear on the SSD which has a limited lifetime.  So yes.. you want it.
[19:02] <lordcirth> I thought relatime is default
[19:02] <apb1963> Bashing-om: Yes.  Correct.
[19:02] <apb1963> atralheaven: Like ANYTHING.  touch, ls... whatever.
[19:03] <atralheaven> lordcirth: what does relatime do?
[19:03] <OerHeks> today i worry more about traditional hdds with those whitespots.
[19:03] <apb1963> shitespots?
[19:03] <apb1963> lol  typo.  whitespots?
[19:03] <atralheaven> apb1963: oh so that does make a lot of writes!
[19:03] <k1l_> atralheaven: actually the old "atime" was the one writing everytime to the disk. that was a massive issue on the first ssd generation (called public alpha ) because it massively wore out the ssds lifecycle.
[19:03] <lordcirth> atralheaven, relatime updates Last Read time to match Last Modified time when you write, so they stay sane.  noatime never updates last read time, so it can be before last modified.
[19:04] <ctarx> Guys, why whois on irc returns ip instead of domain? I've my domain added to /etc/hosts
[19:04] <atralheaven> k1l_: and I think that date time doesn't matter? which partitions should it be set on?
[19:04] <lordcirth> atralheaven, anyway, the defaults are sane now, so don't worry about it
[19:04] <Bashing-om> apb1963: run: ' sudo apt-get remove --purge grub grub-pc grub-common ' and then ' sudo rm /boot/grub/grub.cfg ' . Grub on sdc will be history .
[19:05] <k1l_> atralheaven: you set it in the fstab. but relatime should be ok on todays ssds.
[19:05] <lordcirth> SSDs don't have wear problems anymore
[19:05] <b-jazz> i can't seem to enter text in a PDF like i used to. i upgraded from 15 to 16.04 but that doesn't seem to help. to repro, download this tax form (https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040es.pdf) and type in a field. as soon as you hit tab, the text disappears. when you go back to that field, the text is still there. it just disappears when you leave it. is this a bug in document viewer, or in the PDF itself?
[19:05] <atralheaven> ok so I won't touch it :)
[19:07] <atralheaven> TRIM is an cron job now, right? for all partitions?
[19:09] <k1l_> atralheaven: yes
[19:09] <k1l_> it calls fstrim weekly
[19:09] <OerHeks> * all mounted
[19:09] <apb1963> Bashing-om: not installed, so not removed.  and..... /boot/grub/grub.cfg doesn't exist, nothing to delete.  There is however a /etc/grub.d/06_custom file.  I'm ready to rm it...
[19:09] <apb1963> Bashing-om: it's the only file in that dir.
[19:10] <klimt> which was the last Ubuntu version which did NOT have PHP7 as its default version?
[19:10] <k1l_> klimt: 14.04
[19:10] <klimt> thanks k1l_
[19:10] <k1l_> so 14.04.5 is the latest 14.04 now
[19:11] <klimt> sounds good. thanks
[19:13] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Yeah, you can remove /etc/grub.d/06_custom file ; However, I do not think it matters .. but for the sake of cleanness, go ahead and remove it .
[19:13] <atralheaven> k1l_: I have another drive, which I want to use for my personal files, I thought of using it as /data, how can I add it to this file? what options, dump and pass?
[19:14] <apb1963> Bashing-om: Done.  Next?
[19:14] <Bashing-om> apb1963: We install grub for 16.04 in the drive sdb . Boot the lifeUSB .
[19:15] <riqj> hello everyone, in gnome disk utility my HDD is shown as 'smart not enabled' how can I change this?
[19:15] <riqj> I'd like to see the usual disk health status
[19:15] <k1l_> riqj: enable it in the bios
[19:16] <riqj> k1l_ ah, where is it in the bios?
[19:16] <riqj> where do I find it?
[19:16] <apb1963> Bashing-om: ok.  Booting
[19:16] <k1l_> riqj: dont know. depends on the actual make and model. look into the manual :)
[19:16] <riqj> k1l_ ok, I
[19:16] <riqj> will search a
[19:17] <riqj> thank you for the hint :)
[19:17] <k1l_> !fstab | atralheaven
[19:17] <k1l_> atralheaven: the link explains what it is and gives some examples
[19:18] <atralheaven> k1l_: thanks!
[19:22] <NetworkingPro> Anyone know how to extract/edit an lzma image
[19:22] <NetworkingPro> ?
[19:23] <Phryq> so can I shrink a partition that has data on it from within Ubuntu? Or do I need to boot into a live-disk?
[19:23] <apb1963> Bashing-om: Installing
[19:23] <lordcirth> Phryq, is it a critical partition, like / or /home?
[19:23] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Installing from a full CHange Root ?
[19:23] <Phryq> no, just a regular ext4
[19:24] <lordcirth> Phryq, If you can unmount it and still have a functional system, you can shrink it.
[19:24] <Phryq> I want to shrink it to make room for another linux distro
[19:24] <lordcirth> Actually I think there's an online resizer for ext4 these days
[19:25] <lordcirth> Phryq, 'man resize2fs'
[19:25] <apb1963> Bashing-om: What???
[19:26] <apb1963> Bashing-om: oh crap... I misread what you said.  I thought you said to install 16.04 :/
[19:27] <Bashing-om> apb1963: You say "installing" and I make an assumption that "installing" is installing grub . My query then is how are you "installing" ?
[19:27] <Phryq> lordcirth, I'm not getting any option to either mount or dismount, it's a W95 FAT32
[19:27] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I'm installing the OS... again.  I thought that's what you said to do.  My bad.
[19:27] <lordcirth> Phryq, I thought you just said it was an ext4??
[19:27] <Phryq> I was wrong. I thought it was now I'm see it's not
[19:28] <Phryq> sorry
[19:28] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I'm at a point where it will let me quit the installation.
[19:28] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Well that too will work ! As it is a fresh install . no harm done ;)
[19:29] <lordcirth> Phryq, ok np.  I'm not aware of any safe way to shrink a FAT32.  How much data is in it?
[19:29] <apb1963> Bashing-om: well that's what I figured... but I can quit the installation now... should I?  I'd rather not wait the long, long minutes for a reinstall.
[19:29] <Phryq> not too much, but I'm really novice. The only thing in it I need to save is a VM image
[19:30] <Phryq> is that something I can just copy-paste?
[19:30] <czwolf> Hi. Can I start a command in an already running console? By a script.
[19:30] <lordcirth> Phryq, if you have somewhere to put it, just move it all out, remake the partition smaller, put it back.  And make it ext4 this time!
[19:31] <Phryq> ya, I don't know why I made a fat32- maybe I thought it was safer/more compatible
[19:31] <lordcirth> czwolf, not sure what you mean
[19:31] <Bashing-om> apb1963: And I never ever ever want to interrupt the system in anything it is doing . I am not looking at your terminal and I have no idea of where the process is . Your call if it is safe to abort . If the system is hosed up ,,, can always re-install the OS .
[19:31] <Phryq> oh, I just changed it into a Linux LVM. Is that possible?
[19:32] <apb1963> Bashing-om: Yes... there is a Quit button.
[19:32] <apb1963> Bashing-om: It's paused. I think it's safe.
[19:32] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I'm quitting.  Next command?
[19:32] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Your call . I can not advise .
[19:32] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Booted in the liveUSB ?
[19:33] <Phryq> ok, I'm going to boot into the other OS and try moving it
[19:33] <czwolf> lordcirth ty for response. I do not want to start a new console but use the one already running on my remote desktop, I mean to redirect that command to it. The command will run an application which crashed before in that console.
[19:34] <atralheaven> in /etc/fstab, defaults option is file for /data partition right?
[19:34] <atralheaven> also with pass 2
[19:34] <apb1963> Bashing-om: It's about to be, so yes.
[19:35] <atralheaven> fine*
[19:35] <lordcirth> czwolf, still not understanding you, I think. You have a remote desktop open, in which you have a terminal?  You ran a command in it, it crashed, and you want to run it again?
[19:35] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I'm at the Try/Install menu.
[19:36] <Bashing-om> apb1963: We want a terminal .. so choose ' try ubuntu" .. and load to the desktop . then ctl+alt+t to get that terminal .
[19:38] <czwolf> lordcirth yes. The window has a name, is on a a certain position, I see the output there and when I start a new console by the scriptit goes to another desktop, if it crashes again I will not have any output. So I want it in the same console.
[19:38] <apb1963> Bashing-om: black screen.  Note I re-enabled all drives for this run.
[19:39] <lordcirth> czwolf, how are you running the script right now?  From File Manager?
[19:40] <Shadowbird1231> mv /../smartphone_photos_folder /home/Pictures/"$(date +%F)" would this command/script work if i wanted to use it for moving all my pictures from smartphone in to my computers pictures folder and name a folder for them by date?
[19:40] <czwolf> The program run by script is being monitored. If it does not run it is being restarted. Then new window opens. The old console stays there too. When new console crashes it dissapears completely. Restart is being done by sh script which just makes the program run in new console.
[19:40] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Cold boot up - with the bios priority et to the USB as 1st priority - and try again . as we know that USB will boot as you have booted it a number of times .
[19:41] <Noobunto> ... ich bin drin ... faszinierend
[19:42] <lordcirth> czwolf, so change to launch a terminal, then call the program 'while true' or something like that
[19:42] <czwolf> lordcirth So the command restarting the app may look like: sh /home/user/start.sh
[19:43] <lordcirth> czwolf, yes
[19:44] <apb1963> Bashing-om: The problem was that I didn't have networking enabled.  I do now.  I'm booted and have a console.  Did NOT do what you just mentioned.  Next?
[19:44] <czwolf> lordcirth "while true" - what you mean by that? In start.sh is something like: mono  /home/user/monoap/app.exe
[19:44] <lordcirth> czwolf, you want the program to eternally restart if it quits/crashes, didn't you say?
[19:45] <apb1963> Bashing-om: wireless networking I might add :)
[19:45] <czwolf> lordcirt yes, in the same terminal where it run before. Is that possible?
[19:46] <lordcirth> czwolf, so if your program is run by 'sh  /home/user/start.sh' then you want to open a terminal, and run this program again and again forever.
[19:46] <Bashing-om> apb1963: K; we set up a full CHange Root and change into the install: ' sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt ; - for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done - ; sudo chroot /mnt ' Advise when there ,, and we test .
[19:46] <czwolf> lordcirth yes, that program never stops running
[19:47] <lordcirth> czwolf, so, " gnome-terminal -x while true; do sh /home/user/start.sh; done "
[19:47] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I can do that but keep in min... /dev/sdb1 already has a full install on it.  So all of those devices already exist.
[19:47] <apb1963> s/min/mind
[19:47] <lordcirth> czwolf, should open a gnome-terminal, which will eternally loop start.sh until you close the terminal.
[19:48] <Bashing-om> apb1963: We are in a live environnmet, and are going to switch to the install . we will need to mount the directories of the install .
[19:49] <czwolf> lordcirth you mean it will keep trying to run it again and again even if it is already running? It is a server.
[19:49] <anon_wolf> jelou
[19:49] <lordcirth> czwolf, no, it will run start.sh, then pause until start.sh exits.  Then it will loop and do it again.
[19:49] <Fleuv> Hi, why is git still asking for a password while my ssh config is properly configured and working fine with ssh
[19:50] <lordcirth> czwolf, if you put a '&' after start.sh, it would spawn a ton of them forever and probably crash the server.  Don't do that.
[19:50] <teknoprep> i am happy i moved from windows 10 to ubuntu
[19:50] <teknoprep> i haven't used a linux desktop is years.. just tons of servers
[19:50] <teknoprep> its pretty good now
[19:51] <Noobunto> Test
[19:51] <apb1963> Bashing-om: OK
[19:51] <teknoprep> test back
[19:51] <czwolf> lordcirth ty I will look into it, it sounds promissing. The test will be - I will start a program, will let it monitor, I will stop it by ctrl-c and will see if start.sh will do what you said = to start it in the same console. Should I expect that yes?
[19:51] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Are you there ??
[19:52] <anon_wolf> wow
[19:52] <anon_wolf> i,m new
[19:52] <stoneRsonmi-451> ubuntu is such a beauty
[19:52] <lordcirth> czwolf, It depends on what this start.sh does
[19:53] <c-ssi> hey so i did apt-get irssi but i got an old version (8.15)
[19:53] <lordcirth> czwolf, if start.sh execs the program, it will work fine.  If start.sh forks it with '&', then it might spawn a ton of copies
[19:53] <lordcirth> czwolf, read start.sh to find out how it behaves.
[19:53] <stoneRsonmi-451> running ubuntu gnome 32bits on a compaq laptop: intel celeron 1,5mhz and 4gb of ram
[19:53] <c-ssi> i kind of wanted the new version for integrated sasl
[19:54] <teknoprep> does compiz work well with ubuntu
[19:54] <k1l_> c-ssi: you mean apt-get install? 8.15 is in the repos for 14.04
[19:54] <czwolf> lordcirth In start.sh is something like this: mono /path/tomyapp/app.exe
[19:54] <c-ssi> yeah k1l_
[19:54] <k1l_> teknoprep: compiz is included in unity desktop.
[19:54] <lordcirth> czwolf, ok, then it should work, assuming the app.exe doesn't do anything weird.
[19:54] <c-ssi> i have the ubuntu for windows thing not sure why its not getting 8.18
[19:54] <teknoprep> gotcha
[19:55] <lordcirth> czwolf, actually, you know what?  Put a "sleep" command in the loop too
[19:55] <teknoprep> how is xfce on ubuntu ?
[19:55] <lordcirth> czwolf, so it will wait, say, 5 seconds before relaunching the program.  So it won't spin out of control.
[19:55] <k1l_> c-ssi: ah, that is a difference.
[19:55] <lordcirth> teknoprep, it's great, see Xubuntu screenshots
[19:55] <k1l_> !ubuwin | c-ssi
[19:55] <czwolf> lordcirth Should not be nothing weird, it is opensim
[19:56] <lordcirth> czwolf, put the sleep command in just in cas.e
[19:56] <anon_wolf> *
[19:56] <Bashing-om> teknoprep: xfce is my preferred DE . not a problem .
[19:56] <k1l_> teknoprep: xfce works on ubuntu :)  there is even the xfce preinstalled iso xubuntu
[19:56] <c-ssi> thatks
[19:57] <Noobunto> Anyone time to help me adding my native resolution to ubuntu?
[19:57] <Noobunto> i tried for 4 days now and wnna give up
[19:57] <apb1963> Bashing-om: almost there
[19:57] <anon_wolf> emmm no entiendo nada xD
[19:58] <czwolf> lordcirth xfce4-terminal -x while true; do sh /home/user/start.sh; sleep 5 done
[19:58] <czwolf> this way?
[19:59] <lordcirth> czwolf, put a ; after sleep 5, but yes
[19:59] <k1l_> Noobunto: if you give more details and error messages in a pastebin then people could see and help
[19:59] <czwolf> lorcirth Ty very much. I will experiment, hope it helps :)
[20:00] <Noobunto>  k1l I do
[20:00] <apb1963> Bashing-om: OK, those mount points don't exist.  Make them I presume?
[20:01] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Nope .. let me check mu stntax on the fiven command sequence . stand by .
[20:04] <Noobunto> I try now to paste from pastbin
[20:04] <Noobunto>  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30andre@andre-System-Product-Name:~$ cvt 1680 1050 60 # 1680x1050 59.95 Hz (CVT 1.76MA) hsync: 65.29 kHz; pclk: 146.25 MHz Modeline "1680x1050_60.00"  146.25  1680 1784 1960 2240  1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync  andre@andre-System-Product-Name:~$ xrandr --newmode "1680x1050_60.00" 146.25  1680 1784 1960 2240  1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync   andre@and
[20:04] <Bashing-om> apb1963: My command looks good . verify that you ran exactly as given . Waht results ' mount' ?
[20:04] <Noobunto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23166212/
[20:04] <Noobunto> sry
[20:04] <Noobunto> :-D
[20:05] <c-pin> hey so im on the ubuntu for windows thing and it searches for an irssi to install from 14.04
[20:05] <c-pin> i want the new irssi from later ubuntu repos
[20:06] <k1l_> c-pin: ask in the named channel if you can add a PPA or upgrade the ubuntu to a 16.04 base
[20:06] <k1l_> !ubuwin | c-pin
[20:07] <Bashing-om> c-pin: Join #irssi for instructions to install a later version .
[20:07] <c-pin> thanks
[20:13] <Noobunto> I do not understand why it is such a problem for the programmers of linux to update the actual resolutions at 2016
[20:13] <Noobunto> in
[20:13] <lordcirth> Noobunto, so you have a 1680x1050 screen?
[20:13] <apb1963> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23166260/
[20:14] <Noobunto> nooo :(
[20:14] <lordcirth> Noobunto, what then?
[20:14] <Noobunto> since 4 days not 1152x864
[20:14] <lordcirth> Noobunto, your monitor is 1152x864 ??
[20:15] <Noobunto> tried to xrand it
[20:15] <Noobunto> no itś 1680x1050
[20:15] <Noobunto> but no choice there
[20:15] <k1l_> Noobunto: is there a adapter involved? what video card? what video driver?
[20:15] <lordcirth> Noobunto, Your physical monitor is 1680x1050, but it's running at 1152x864?
[20:15] <lordcirth> Noobunto, what graphics card and driver?
[20:16] <Noobunto> correct, gtx 460, nvidia 370.28
[20:16] <k1l_> lspci -nnk will tell
[20:16] <Noobunto> it doesnt depend on driver, tried with given ubuntu driver from nv as well
[20:16] <lordcirth> Noobunto, I have a 1680x1050 screen, and every Linux distro I've ever used has detected it fine.
[20:16] <Noobunto> now i installed this one, blaklistet necaei
[20:17] <Noobunto> ok
[20:17] <Noobunto> thats strange
[20:17] <k1l_> Noobunto: is there a dvi adapter involved? what mode comes per edid?
[20:17] <lordcirth> I suspect your monitor is not following standards or something
[20:17] <Noobunto> ohoh
[20:17] <Noobunto> itś a dvi to vga cable adapter there
[20:17] <lordcirth> Oh, well then
[20:17] <k1l_> aha
[20:18] <Noobunto> ??
[20:18] <Noobunto> is that the problem?
[20:18] <k1l_> adapters are known to be rubbish :/
[20:18] <lordcirth> VGA can't do 1680x1050, I don't think
[20:18] <Noobunto> lol
[20:18] <Noobunto> i don believe, i try it out on wondows later
[20:18] <Noobunto> if that's the case ...  go to the cellar and laugh a week
[20:18] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I re-copied it and re-ran it... it seems to be OK.  I think it barfed on the last command, but I reran that one too and I'm in the env.
[20:19] <lordcirth> Just looked it up, so apparently VGA can technically do any resolution, it just gets blurry
[20:19] <lordcirth> But yeah, I bet the adapter is preventing detection
[20:20] <Noobunto> vga can managage up ti 1280x720, which I tested also
[20:20] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Well .. still in the live environment " /dev/sdd on /cdrom type iso9660 (ro,noatime) " .. I am unsure how to gracefully get out of this . What returns ' ls -al /mnt/ ' ? // OK, O se your last . TBC
[20:20] <Noobunto> ok,. but thanks for the hint
[20:20] <lordcirth> Noobunto, I am using DVI, btw
[20:21] <Noobunto> i normaly, too, but in this test configuration i had to adapt vga
[20:21] <apb1963> Bashing-om: ok you lost me.
[20:21] <Noobunto> how can i highlight usernames here
[20:21] <Bashing-om> apb1963: In the chroot you are root .. no messing about ! Now is there a positive return ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' ? before we proceed we must know we have networking .
[20:21] <Noobunto> @lordcirth
[20:21] <Noobunto> no
[20:21] <Noobunto> :D
[20:21] <k1l_> Noobunto: "k1<tab>"
[20:21] <lordcirth> Noobunto, just the name
[20:22] <Noobunto> test
[20:22] <k1l_> but dont know if pidgin supports tabcompletion. pidgin is not really good at irc.
[20:22] <Noobunto> aah, ok
[20:22] <apb1963> Bashing-om: unknown host
[20:22] <Noobunto> was my first choice beeing new to all this, wich is better?
[20:23] <Noobunto> but smth is happening tabbing you
[20:23] <k1l_> Noobunto: a good irc client is hexchat.
[20:23] <Noobunto> Noob
[20:23] <Noobunto> ok
[20:24] <Noobunto> sooo, let's try how to get this now via cosole :D
[20:24] <apb1963> Bashing-om: /etc/resolv.conf is empty
[20:24] <stoneRsonmi-451> woot
[20:24] <stoneRsonmi-451> '
[20:24] <Bashing-om> apb1963: OK - not  try ' systemctl enable NetworkManager.service ; systemctl start NetworkManager.service ; ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' .
[20:30] <apb1963> Bashing-om: http://paste.debian.net/817119/
[20:31] <apb1963> Bashing-om: This is taking me forever because I can't ssh in to that machine so I have to transfer text files back and forth.  What I need to do is create a user for me to use for ssh and also add him to the sudoers file.
[20:33] <Guest77661> Can I ask a shell question about copying files?
[20:33] <Noobunto> test
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> Guest77661  let's hear it, in one line
[20:34] <Guest77661> How would I copy files from directory A to each of directories C, D, E, etc... as in B/C, B/D, B/E ?
[20:34] <kzisme> Has anyone experienced a SQUASHFS error while using an Ubuntu live usb?
[20:34] <Guest77661> cm -r A/* ...?
[20:34] <Guest77661> cp rather
[20:34] <Noobuntu> test HexChat
[20:34] <Noobuntu> aha
[20:34] <lordcirth> Guest77661, copying all files in A to each directory?  Or 1 file from A to each?
[20:34] <Noobuntu> compicatet thing here :)
[20:35] <Guest77661> all files from a into each of C, D, and E (those contained in B)
[20:35] <Noobuntu> k1l_, Test
[20:35] <Guest77661> where B is in the same directory as A
[20:35] <lordcirth> Guest77661, for loop?
[20:35] <Noobuntu> k1l_, Seems to ork
[20:35] <Guest77661> hm, was looking for something more terse than a for loop
[20:36] <Ben64> Guest77661: might want to ask #bash
[20:36] <lordcirth> Guest77661, problem is, cp assumes that the last argument is the destination, and all previous are to be copied
[20:36] <Guest77661> thanks for that info
[20:36] <Guest77661> so can the destination be simply B/* i wonder?
[20:36] <Bashing-om> apb1963: I did wonder at the delays .. no biggy .. what is the big thing is not able to establish networking . Let's attempt a different approach that might work to install grub for 16.04 . Back out of the chroot ' exit ; for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo umount  $i /mnt$i; done ; sudo umount /mnt . Back in the liveUSB . Advise when complete and at liveUSB terminal .
[20:37] <Ben64> Guest77661: no
[20:37] <Guest77661> hmm ok
[20:37] <lordcirth> Guest77661, no, I suspect that would overwrite existing stuff in B
[20:37] <lordcirth> Guest77661, there's also xargs
[20:37] <Ben64> Guest77661: really though, #bash would be the best place to ask this question
[20:41] <apb1963> Bashing-om: Done.  Ready.
[20:42] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Do we have networking here ? ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' gives a positive response ?
[20:43] <lordcirth> ^Is it normal for a mass-ban to happen?
[20:43] <apb1963> Bashing-om: Yes.
[20:44] <ikonia> lordcirth: no-one has been mass-banned
[20:44] <lordcirth> ikonia, Drone literally just hit 6 people with a wildcard ban.  Are they all the same person?
[20:45] <ikonia> lordcirth: it's a shell provider that is flooding with network connections
[20:45] <th0r> lordcirth, I saw that too
[20:45] <Guest98668> ghbdtn
[20:45] <Guest98668> privet
[20:48] <apb1963> Bashing-om: ok, I fixed sudoers so now I have a window into that machine with sudo privs.
[20:48] <Bashing-om> apb1963: OK, run ' sudo  mount  /dev/sdb1   /mnt ; sudo  grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sdX ; sudo umount /mnt ' One command at the time not all at once . We want to see any errors as generated .
[20:50] <apb1963> Bashing-om: all good... no errors.
[20:50] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Syntax error on my part !
[20:50] <apb1963> Bashing-om: except I changed  X to b.
[20:51] <apb1963> Bashing-om: reboot now?
[20:51] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Great glad ya caught it ! ..reboot setting sdb as the boot priority . let's see if it worked .
[20:55] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I get the grub menu with 16.04 ... booting results in a black screen.  Other drives have NOT been enabled for boot, but enabled otherwise.
[20:58] <Bashing-om> apb1963: A black screen such as from a failed graphic's driver, perhaps ?
[20:59] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I don't know why it would fail... it worked earlier.  but... anything is possible... I don't know what else it might be.
[20:59] <apb1963> Bashing-om: if you have a fix, lets try it... otherwise my suggestion is to reinstall fresh.... all the other disk should be clean enough that grub should be happy on a new install.
[21:00] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Let's look .. and see if boot code is there . boot to grub ; 'c' key for a prompt .. and what returns ' ls -al ' ?
[21:01] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Your above is true also .. You can re-install and be done with this .
[21:05] <apb1963> Bashing-om: well there's a ton of output, some of which says "No known filesystem detected"
[21:06] <jenrexxer> LOL: "Don't want your neighborhood enriched by these guys? Then you're a racist. You should be locked up for your hate." https://twitter.com/RadioRenegades/status/775023571290783745/photo/1
[21:06] <jenrexxer> Thanks Jews!
[21:07] <apb1963> Bashing-om: Basically it's a list of disk devices with partitions and filesystems and types listed.
[21:07] <nicomachus> again?
[21:07] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Not seeing your terminal a lot here is a guessing game . in that ls output is there ( hd1,msdos1) ?
[21:08] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Most oftem grub will set the booting hard drive to hd0 .. that may confuse the issue a lot !
[21:08] <apb1963> Bashing-om: Yes.  File system type ext*
[21:09] <LordDragon> hey all. when im going to install from an ISO on a thumb drive, should i boot the thumb drive in UEFI mode or regular mode? someone mentioned somehting about going the UEFI route causes headaches and can overwrite windows bootloader and cause issues with windows. can someone advise me?
[21:09] <apb1963> Bashing-om: hd0,5 is labled /home ... so now we know which disk this is.
[21:10] <Bashing-om> apb1963: K.. then we need to verify the config file ' ls (hd1,nsdos1)/grub/boot/grub.cfg' give a positive return ?
[21:11] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Ouch .. dylexia strikes again (hd1,msdos1) !!
[21:11] <nicomachus> trying to separate my music library into FLAC and MP3 parent directories. Currently organized as ~/Music/$ArtistName/$Trackname.flac, want to just move anything that ends in .flac to ~/Music/FLAC/$Artist/$Track.flac, and same for all the mp3s. Cant seem to get it right. a
[21:12] <apb1963> Bashing-om: well... it seems to ignore the part in (), and says the rest doesn't exist.
[21:13] <BuckHere> Howdy folks :) Running Ubuntu 16.04 on a remote server. Would like to install VNC on it so I get some GUI going. Any good guides around? I'm planning to install 'wine' afterwords to run 'remux' related programs.
[21:14] <ikonia> BuckHere: there are many native linux remux programs
[21:14] <ikonia> there is no need for wine
[21:14] <BuckHere> ikonia, first off thank you for taking a look at my situation.
[21:14] <ikonia> you then wouldn't need vnc
[21:14] <ikonia> you could run it over ssh
[21:15] <BuckHere> ikonia, can you recommend any native remux programs?
[21:15] <BuckHere> well, I've been trying to do the ssh way. But, coming from windows GUI, I've a steep learning curve
[21:15] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Yeah .. understandable .. why does the system not have a "dumb ass" respose ? .. try as ' ls -al (hd1,msdos1)/boot/grub/grub.cfg '. That is the correct path .
[21:16] <ikonia> ffmpeg, mplayer, have a quick google, they mostly work fine
[21:16] <ikonia> BuckHere: people will help if you just ask, seems silly to make a problem harder/over kill if you can get help to make it simpler, more effective
[21:16] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I'm not seeing the difference between this command and the previous one??
[21:17] <BuckHere> ikonia, I hear you.
[21:17] <Bashing-om> apb1963: The path .. /grub will not exist under the root directory . where as amended to /boot/grub .
[21:17] <apb1963> I know what mux and demux are... what's remux?
[21:19] <BuckHere> apb1963, the same! muxing/remuxing just different lingo
[21:19] <apb1963> Bashing-om:  ls (hd1,nsdos1)/grub/boot/grub.cfg   ls -al (hd1,msdos1)/boot/grub/grub.cfg        << OK, I see the first one is ls and the second has options to ls.   Was there another difference?
[21:20] <apb1963> other than the typo of course.
[21:20] <BuckHere> Is GUI use frowned upon here?
[21:20] <lordcirth> BuckHere, no, not at all.  Every control system has its place
[21:21] <BuckHere> lordcirth, ty. I totally agree with you.
[21:21] <ikonia> BuckHere: not fround upon at all
[21:21] <lordcirth> BuckHere, however, when it's a remote server, a command line is much more efficient than VNC
[21:21] <ikonia> BuckHere: however, it's possibly overkill to do all the work and dependencies for just a function that will work very well on the command line
[21:21] <Bashing-om> apb1963: It is hoped that ' ls -al (hd1,msdos1)/boot/grub/grub.cfg ' gives a return for a boot config file .
[21:21] <apb1963> file /grub/boot/grub.cfg not found
[21:22] <apb1963> oh look... at what you just typed
[21:22] <BuckHere> lordcirth, I get that, I really do. It's just that I can't seem to wene myself off of the graphical interface that I'm so used to!
[21:22] <apb1963> Bashing-om: what you just typed is different.
[21:23] <apb1963> Bashing-om: before you had /grub/boot... now you have /boot/grub
[21:23] <BuckHere> *wean
[21:23] <Bashing-om> apb1963: K.. then we are back to trying to install grub from that full chamge root routine ,. where we must have networking . OR do a freah clean install .
[21:23] <lordcirth> BuckHere, yeah I get it.  However, I really suggest you learn the command line, it's not as hard as it looks :)
[21:24] <kngninja1> its slow as shit
[21:24] <ikonia> kngninja1: please stop swearing
[21:24] <apb1963> Bashing-om: ok... with the corrected path... it stopped returning an error, and now just gives a blank line as a response.
[21:24] <ikonia> BuckHere: we are here to help you, so you won't struggle on your own
[21:24] <BuckHere> lordcirth, ty :) Actually I do a lot of cli now with my server.
[21:24] <ikonia> BuckHere: if you ask clear questions and work with people - we will help
[21:25] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I say take the path of least resistance.  Building a complete chrooted env. takes time if you don't have a perfect list of what's needed.
[21:25] <apb1963> Bashing-om: and even better... a tested script.
[21:25] <BuckHere> ikonia, ty. I appreciate the fact that you guys volunteer your time helping other folks who could really use some help.
[21:26] <ikonia> BuckHere: you'll also get better performance remux'ing as it won't have to echo updates to a remote screen, it can just process it
[21:26] <apb1963> Bashing-om: So... with your blessing... reinstall?
[21:27] <Bashing-om> apb1963: That file should exist .. it is the control file for booting . test to confirm ' ls -al (hd0,msdos5)/boot/grub/grub.cfg ' will list 14.04's boot file .
[21:28] <apb1963> same response.. prints a blank line as output.
[21:28] <Bashing-om> apb1963: At this point . a re-install is the easiest solution .
[21:28] <BuckHere> ikonia, this is what I wanna accomplish: 1) working eac3to 2) MakeMKV'mkvtoolNIX 3)BDInfo/MediaInfo 4) Screenshot program all done on a remote linux server.
[21:28] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I agree.  so... last time I ask... reinstall now?
[21:29] <BuckHere> I've had the server for a while now, I've re-installed the OS..God knows howmany times!
[21:29] <warren_> anyone know of a program I can run on ubuntu to set up a login website for my laptop running a wireless ap?
[21:29] <Bashing-om> apb1963: I have no clue what that may mean that the config files are not there ! sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /boot/grub/grub.cfg >> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 45542 Aug 29 11:43 /boot/grub/grub.cfg .
[21:30] <ikonia> BuckHere: why do you want a screen shot program on a remote desktop ?
[21:30] <ikonia> BuckHere: the first 3 things - no problem without a desktop at all
[21:30] <apb1963> Bashing-om: maybe because I didn't put them on the boot device list in the bios????
[21:31] <BuckHere> ikonia, so any good guides you can recommend to me? My level of cli understanding is that of a Windows guy who is kinda lost at the moment..
[21:32] <ikonia> BuckHere: not really good guides, best thing I can suggest is do a little bit of basic research into the tools that can do what you want
[21:32] <ikonia> then ask people to help you set them up how you want
[21:33] <Success> How do I install the latest python 2
[21:33] <Success> it's not preinstalled in docker :P
[21:33] <BuckHere> ikonia, ty for the tips.
[21:33] <ikonia> Success: nothing is pre-installed in docker
[21:33] <ikonia> Success: you have to build up your container image
[21:33] <horsehoes> hello, can someone help me with nvidia drivor
[21:34] <lordcirth> !ask | horsehoes
[21:34] <Success> ikonia: yeah but how do I install python, the online stuff wants custom repositories and man-handled dependency resolution...
[21:34] <ikonia> Success: python is already installed in ubuntu
[21:36] <Success> horsehoes: what's wrong with your nvidia "drivors" ?
[21:36] <horsehoes> How do i install the nvidia drivor? it says: The distribution-provided pre-install script failed!  Are you sure you want  to continue?
[21:36] <horsehoes> So I am leery to continue
[21:36] <k1l_> horsehoes: ubuntu ships already nvidia drivers. so what are you doing there exactly?
[21:37] <Bashing-om> apb1963: If grub sees ' (hd0,msdosX) (hd1,msdosX) and (hd2,msdosX) .. then it is not a bios thing .
[21:37] <horsehoes> k1l_ I am trying to install it. I downloaded it from the geforce site
[21:37] <apb1963> Bashing-om: yeah, doesn't seem to be.
[21:37] <blinkblink> Hi. my wifi is not working!
[21:38] <k1l_> horsehoes: ok, so why dont you use the ubuntu ones?
[21:38] <horsehoes> They disable my brightness and it blinds me
[21:38] <blinkblink> I am using ethernet now. i've tried every solution online but nothing worked!
[21:38] <horsehoes> @k1l
[21:39] <k1l_> horsehoes: what ubuntu? what video card? what driver used?
[21:39] <wabbits> having a little trouble with pulseaudio startup
[21:39] <Bashing-om> apb1963: We know sda - 14.04 - is good because it boots . It blows me away that 16.04 grub can not list the 14.04 config file .
[21:39] <nicomachus> blinkblink: what do you mean by it's "not working"? won't connect, no signal, what?
[21:40] <wabbits> I think it is being launched by upstart how can I stop upstart from launching it?
[21:40] <horsehoes> @k1l_ The newest one with the gnome with my laptop nvidia, the drivor is the one from geforce.com
[21:40] <blinkblink> nicomachus: using Lenovo x220, wifi been working fine, all of a sudden wifi is off, always off. i have installed missing drivers but still
[21:41] <nicomachus> blinkblink: can you run 'sudo lshw -C network' in a terminal, paste the output at paste.ubuntu.com, and link here?
[21:41] <t0rWh0r3> maybe its turned off in the uefi settings?
[21:41] <ikonia> how can they be missing if it was working
[21:41] <ikonia> that makes no sense
[21:41] <k1l_> horsehoes: ubuntu ships several different nvidia versions. if you use the geforce.com one we are out of the business when it comes to support.
[21:41] <blinkblink> nicomachus: sure
[21:41] <ikonia> either it wasn't working or it was working, in which case the drivers where not missing
[21:42] <horsehoes> who can help me then, the one in the drivors page on the OS blinds me and makes all the icons 10x bigger
[21:43] <blinkblink> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23166596/
[21:43] <nicomachus> blinkblink: does your laptop have a wifi switch? like an actual physical switch?
[21:43] <k1l_> horsehoes: "the one". i just explained there are several different ones. and we still dont know facts like what driver number exactly and what video card exactly and what ubuntu release
[21:44] <horsehoes> Hang on let me try to find it
[21:46] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I don't know what to say... other than to reinstall.... waiting for your blessing to do so.
[21:46] <blinkblink> nicomachus: there is a switch on the side which i have not used at all, please lemme disconnect ethernet and try
[21:46] <nicomachus> blinkblink: because it says "DISABLED", which means the switch is turned to off, or you were messing around with something and disabled your wifi card. which isn't real easy to do.
[21:47] <blinkblink> nicomachus: errr i nearly reinstalled the entire distro!
[21:47] <blinkblink> nicomachus: am so sorry and thanks
[21:47] <nicomachus> blinkblink: was the switch off?
[21:47] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Sure .. re-install is the easiest solution .. I am, in this case. all for easy as we have tried the more difficult with no joy .
[21:48] <apb1963> Bashing-om: OK then
[21:52] <hexicpyth> Hi. I have an AMD Radeon HD 4650 in my PC. Because this card is "legacy", I opted to install ubuntu 14.04 rather than 16.04, as I have read that 16.04 wont support legacy cards. I'm attempting to install fglrx now, but my problem is that apparently, I have trusty installed, with xenial xorg packages. How did this happen?(Fresh install of 14.04.5 trusty)
[21:53] <hexicpyth> Also: how can I remove Xorg(doesn't sound like a good idea :D) and reinstall it with the trusty packages?
[21:56] <Bashing-om> hexicpyth: ATI dropped suport for your card a long time past . There is no proprietary driver available . As to the xenial stack on 14.04 . see below.
[21:56] <k1l_> hexicpyth: first: 16.04 supports all amd cards. its just amd stopped making fglrx from now on but they now make "amd_gpu" as open source kernel driver (which supports latest cards only).
[21:56] <Bashing-om> !hwe | hexicpyth
[21:56] <k1l_> hexicpyth: but the open source driver radeon is still working with all amd cards.
[21:57] <nicomachus> hexicpyth: my HD 6450 is purring with the radeon driver on 16.04
[21:57] <k1l_> hexicpyth: and secondly: the 14.04.5 ships the 4.4 kernel and xorg backported from 16.04. you can downgrade that to original 14.04 kernel and xorg if you want
[21:57] <hexicpyth> Sorry for my 8 year old card. The only reason I have it is because apparently, its faster than my entry-level nvidia gt 610 xD.
[21:57] <nicomachus> hardware is hardware
[21:58] <k1l_> hexicpyth: the open source radeon should work with that card.
[21:58] <hexicpyth> how do I install the open-source radeon driver?
[21:58] <apb1963> Bashing-om: What do you think... format it?
[21:58] <Bashing-om> hexicpyth: Nothing wrong with that card and the radeon driver . so long as 3D gamming is not in the picture . I too run an old old ATI card with no problems .
[21:59] <k1l_> hexicpyth: its loading as standard. since its included in the kernel already
[21:59] <hexicpyth> bashing-om: interestingly enough, the test I used for figuring out it was "faster" was a 3d game :)
[21:59] <hexicpyth> (not the minecraft is at all resource intensive, but technically its 3d)
[22:00] <hexicpyth> do you know the package name to the radeon driver? apt-get install radeon doesn't work
[22:01] <KMart27[PSU|GB]> anybody know the files to update for weather-util to point to the new NOAA URL?
[22:01] <Bashing-om> apb1963: If were me I would just fire up GParted. delete partition .. maybe as ya want a seperate /home shrink sdb2 (407.1G  the /home for 14.04 ) .. in the installer " something else" and install as desired .
[22:01] <k1l_> hexicpyth: you have that already
[22:01] <apb1963> hexicpyth: apt-file search radeon
[22:01] <hexicpyth> oh xD
[22:02] <hexicpyth> I was wondering why I got 60fps with no drivers installed on MC... :D
[22:02] <k1l_> hexicpyth: i explained that the radeon is in the kernel and is loaded as standard on ubuntu. so before you install your fglrx you already see a desktop, righ? that is radeon
[22:02] <k1l_> hexicpyth: and that is the same you get on 16.04
[22:02] <stoneRsonmi-451> hey there
[22:02] <k1l_> (since you just now run 16.04 kernel and 16.04 xorg already)
[22:03] <hexicpyth> So I can safely upgrade without breaking anything?
[22:03] <apb1963> bash... yeah... no sharing of /home...  I need to share my data files... ~/Documents and ~/Downloads being uppermost in my mind, but just plain old files in ~ as well.
[22:03] <apb1963> Bashing-om: ^^
[22:03] <blinkblink_> please now with wifi fixed i have a problem with a package: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23166661/
[22:04] <blinkblink_> I need to remove Caffeine-developers
[22:04] <nicomachus> blinkblink_: you'll have to remove it or contact the developers
[22:05] <Bashing-om> apb1963: What I have is a shared data partition . works real well .
[22:05] <blinkblink_> nicomachus: i removed it from Ubuntu Software Center but it is still there!
[22:05] <k1l_> blinkblink_: sudo ppa-ourge ppa:caffeine-developers/ppa
[22:05] <apb1963> Bashing-om: yes you mentioned that before... but unless I physically move specific files there... I don't see how to use it.
[22:05] <Bashing-om> hexicpyth: That be xserver-xorg-video-radeon for the driver . Make sure you purge all vestiges of the old driver prior to the install .
[22:06] <nicomachus> k1l_: beat me to it
[22:06] <hexicpyth> So my next question: Will I be able to install the drivers to my GT 610(Its a mix-gpu setup :() without screwing things up?
[22:06] <k1l_> blinkblink_: and in future: before you activate those ppas again, see if they even ship packages for your new ubuntu relaease at all. in this case this doesnt ship packages since 15.04
[22:06] <Bashing-om> apb1963: That is what you do .. move the files to that directory .
[22:07] <hexicpyth> I would like to be able to use both my GPUS
[22:07] <blinkblink_> k1l_: ok. anyway "update failed for some reason" http://paste.ubuntu.com/23166727/
[22:08] <k1l_> blinkblink_: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[22:09] <hexicpyth> (I realize how non-driver-friendly my setup is; I literally built it out of a closet ;)...)
[22:09] <blinkblink_> k1l_: http://termbin.com/v0kl
[22:10] <k1l_> blinkblink_: "sudo rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/caffeine-developers-ubuntu-ppa-xenial.list*"
[22:10] <k1l_> blinkblink_: after that "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[22:11] <newbsie> I F'up and got myself locked out of sudo. How can I recover from this?
[22:11] <k1l_> what did you do?
[22:12] <blinkblink_> k1l_ wow. work like a charm! thank you so much
[22:12] <newbsie> During an update, I overwrote the /etc/sudoers file with the default.
[22:12] <blinkblink_> please where should i start reading on commands and such?
[22:12] <hexicpyth> newbsie: I've done that before, I believe you can use the recovery mode to reset your root password, and work from there...
[22:12] <k1l_> newbsie: make sure your user is in the sudo group
[22:13] <lordcirth> Yeah, default /etc/sudoers should actually work
[22:13] <newbsie> k1l_: that's the problem. I'm not.
[22:13] <lordcirth> newbsie, why not?  The default Ubuntu account is
[22:13] <k1l_> newbsie: so there is something different wrong on your system
[22:13] <newbsie> hexicpyth: I can't do that, because it is a live server sitting at digitalocean.
[22:14] <hexicpyth> newbsie: oh, I didn't know that...
[22:14] <k1l_> newbsie: you got another user account on that machine?
[22:14] <Bashing-om> !manual | blinkblink_
[22:14] <Bashing-om> !terminal | blinkblink_
[22:14] <newbsie> k1l_: not that I setup for login.
[22:15] <newbsie> k1l_: The problem is that everytime I try to just "su", it says authentication failure.
[22:15] <k1l_> newbsie: so does digitalocean offer a recovery? if not there is no solution
[22:16] <nathan__> I feel almost like I have malware on my ubuntu machine. Whenever i use apt or apt-get, (apt-get autoremove, apt-get install anything, etc) it says "setting up minecraft-installer (1.6.1-xenial1.1)..." and then goes through trying and failing to install it... how can I stop this?
[22:16] <k1l_> newbsie: on the standard ubuntu setup the main user (at least) is in the sudo group and is capable of using sudo because of that.
[22:16] <k1l_> nathan__: well, you can actually start to solve that issue so it doesnt need to try to start the install again. that is not a virus.
[22:16] <lordcirth> nathan__, do you mean that it tries to install Minecraft even when you don't want to, or is that an example?
[22:16] <nathan__> I've even removed the minecraft ppa I had, but that didn't stop the problem
[22:17] <newbsie> k1l_: I'm on the server version headless.
[22:17] <nathan__> I might say "apt-get autoremove", and it will download a jar file and attempt to install minecraft again
[22:17] <k1l_> newbsie: that is not different from desktop or server.
[22:17] <lordcirth> nathan__, sounds like apt was interrupted and is attempting to finish a transaction.
[22:18] <nathan__> lordcirth: thanks... so how do I get it to stop doing that?
[22:19] <lordcirth> nathan__, you could try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[22:19] <k1l_> nathan__: run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" and show the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[22:19] <newbsie> k1l_: is there a way to see what the usernames are?
[22:20] <nathan__> "sudo dpkg --configure -a" did the exact same thing (and failing with exist status 8 after downloading the jar file ayet again
[22:20] <lordcirth> newbsie, you don't know the username that you've been using?
[22:20] <bekks> nathan__: Can you pastebin the entire output please?
[22:20] <k1l_> nathan__: details matter, show that in a patebin
[22:20] <newbsie> lordcirth: I do, but I was hoping there was another one I setup that I forgot.
[22:21] <k1l_> newbsie: list what usernames?
[22:21] <newbsie> k1l_: I guess I can't read the passwd file without being root, huh.
[22:21] <k1l_> newbsie: "cut -d: -f1 /etc/passwd"
[22:21] <lordcirth> newbsie, yes you can
[22:22] <newbsie> can I see the sudoers file?
[22:23] <lordcirth> -r--r----- 1 root root 755 Aug 17 09:20 /etc/sudoers  <- no
[22:28] <minitrue> exit
[22:30] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I've decided to format it, but otherwise leave everything alone at this time.  I can always adjust it later.
[22:31] <santiago_> hola
[22:31] <santiago_> saludos desde chile
[22:32] <nathan__> k1l_: lordcirth: apparently update is taking a really long time
[22:32] <nathan__> so... still waiting
[22:32] <lordcirth> nathan__, is it making progress, though?
[22:32] <Steveeee> Hello. Trying to install ubuntu on a new laptop
[22:33] <nathan__> every 30 seconds or so it moves on it moves to a different get. I'll post the pastbin where its at right now
[22:33] <nathan__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23166888/
[22:33] <lordcirth> nathan__, is your internet really slow?
[22:33] <Steveeee> I am not familiar with these UEFI options that were asked me for the first time during this install. I haven't seen it in my years of installing ubuntu on older computers
[22:33] <hexicpyth> Does anybody know if a mixed GPU setup will work on ubuntu?
[22:33] <k1l_> nathan__: just let it run
[22:34] <Steveeee> And when I finish install apparently successfully, it still boots to Windows
[22:34] <lordcirth> hexicpyth, nearly anything will work, it's just a question of how much setup will be required.
[22:34] <hexicpyth> Ok, how would I go about installing the Nvidia drivers without messing up the open-source radeon ones?
[22:35] <hexicpyth> Or: DO I even need the nvidia drivers? All i need that card for is the extra 48 cuda cores.
[22:35] <Bashing-om> apb1963: That too will work . An eased mind is a good thing to have when re-partitioning !
[22:36] <lordcirth> hexicpyth, I think you need nvidia-cuda for that, which depends on the driver
[22:36] <hexicpyth> lordcirth: So should I just try installing the nvidia drivers, and come back if it wacks up my system?
[22:37] <lordcirth> hexicpyth, well, try, and see if apt wants to remove anything important, etc.
[22:37] <hexicpyth> ok. I'll do that now.
[22:38] <hexicpyth> whats the difference between nvidia-304 and nvidia-304-updates? Is the nvidia-304 one not maintained or something?
[22:40] <apb1963> Bashing-om: I think what I'll do eventually is create a /data partition and symlink ~/Documents to /data/apb/Documents  That way I don't have to worry about copying it.  Do the same for other similar subdirs.
[22:40] <Bashing-om> hexicpyth: Mind ya .. running bith ATI and nVidia cards, I do not know, but https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PRIME may be of interest .
[22:42] <Bashing-om> apb1963: While that symlink method will work . I am always concerned about corrupting my system, why I use a data partition that is mountable without interferring with the OS .
[22:42] <hexicpyth> Im going to reboot now that I've installed the drivers and see what happens
[22:43] <lordcirth> apb1963, my Documents, Downloads, and Pictures are symlinked like this
[22:46] <joao1> hello
[22:51] <hexicpyth> nick, welp that definitely screwed things up...
[22:51] <hexicpyth> oops
[22:51] <hexicpyth> accidentaally put nick into that message :)
[22:53] <hexicpyth> but... now that I installed the nvidia drivers, Xorg would not work, so I removed them, and lightdm wont log me in as anyone other than guest...
[22:53] <lordcirth> hexicpyth, well that's quite strange
[22:54] <k1l_> hexicpyth: login on tty1 as your user, then do "ls -al" and see if your .xauthority belongs to your user or root.
[22:54] <hexicpyth> ok
[22:54] <apb1963> Bashing-om: And we have bootup!!!  Thank you sooooooooooo much!!!  I have to run out for a bit, but I'll be back hopefully within the hour or so.  Thank you!!!!
[22:54] <k1l_> hexicpyth: to tty1 you get with ctrl+alt+f1 and back you come with ctrl+alt+f7
[22:55] <hexicpyth> k1l_ I know how to switch ttys, but thanks. Anyway, .XAuthority is owned by root
[22:55] <energizer> What is the best im/irc client in ubuntu?
[22:56] <isene> Weechat
[22:56] <v3n0x> irssi
[22:56] <k1l_> then sudo chown user:user .Xauhtority  #replace user with your actual username
[22:56] <hexicpyth> will it work considering im logged on as guest rn?
[22:56] <k1l_> energizer: hexchat is a widely used irc client for gui
[22:56] <k1l_> hexicpyth: no, do that on tty1 while logged in on tty as your user.
[22:56] <isene> After using irssi for years, I tried weechat a couple of years ago. I'm in love now.
[22:57] <energizer> I would like to use the same client for gmail chat, facebook chat, irc. Do weechat, irssi, and hexchat do that?
[22:57] <Bashing-om> apb1963: Great !  no step for a stepper .
[22:57] <v3n0x> ive tried a couple, keep coming back to irssi
[22:57] <isene> Weechat does all that.
[22:57] <hexicpyth> just did that. Ill dry to log in again
[22:58] <isene> Check my blog post on this here: https://isene.me/2015/10/25/weechat/
[22:58] <riqj> hello everyone, in gnome disk utility my HDD is shown as 'smart not enabled' and I found a solution that suggested using 'hparm' or 'smartctl' commands..but when I use these I get 'command not found'
[22:59] <hexicpyth> OK, i did that, and lightdm works again, but now, I get a "System error" message on login. not that much of a problem, but just an annoyance.
[22:59] <hexicpyth> *"System problem detected"
[22:59] <k1l_> riqj: make sure smartmontools is installed
[22:59] <v3n0x> weechat actually looks pretty cool
[23:00] <hexicpyth> Its an Xorg error
[23:00] <riqj> k1l_ yes, I just found it in the wiki, installing now :)
[23:00] <k1l_> hexicpyth: press cancel if you like. its only from the last unsuccesful login attempts
[23:00] <hexicpyth> ok
[23:00] <energizer> isene: have you tried sms with weechat?
[23:01] <hexicpyth> So back to the drawing board I guess. Let me read that prime link. I noticed that the nvidia drivers installed "nvidia-prime", but I assumed it was just a dependency
[23:01] <isene> energizer: No. I don't have a need for that. But I will try it one day when I get the urge :-)
[23:02] <wabbits> how do I get rid of overscan on my hdmi display(acutally a tv)?
[23:02] <isene> And then I will connect my HP-41 sms gateway solution onto that to be able to send sms from a 1983 calculator via weechat to the world ;-)
[23:02] <riqj> I could enable smart via command line, but it is still shown as not enabled in gnome disk utility
[23:02] <linman> hi, how do i unmount a partition in use and try to fix the bad blocks?
[23:02] <isene> More on weechat setup here: http://zanshin.net/2015/01/10/a-guide-for-setting-up-weechat-and-bitlbee/
[23:03] <linux__> Hi, When I run text file by kate does not run the file from start line, it is run from last edited line , How I can stop this option?
[23:05] <freefall> howdy... question can i disable knotify4? seen i think it need 1.5g of VM ?
[23:05] <v3n0x> isene: thanks for sharing
[23:05] <freefall> better yet can i just uninstall it?
[23:05] <isene> v3n0x: You're welcome :-)
[23:06] <freefall> im running lubuntu btw
[23:06] <riqj> besides, I couldnt find anything about smart test in bios, when I searched for it there to enable..there was an HDD diagnostics section, but it only contained the machine's own hdd test
[23:15] <riqj> short smart test completed without error, yet when I check smart statistics via command line all values say either 'old-age' or 'pre-fail', and 'when failed' column is all '-' (empty)..so should I worry?
[23:16] <riqj> old-age is meant to be something else, as I just read..and another text also says pre-fail is a statistic value. but is there a hint here?
[23:16] <Steeeve> Hello! I got booted into ubuntu
[23:16] <Steeeve> I unfortunately have to rely on Bluetooth network tethering = mobile data usage for internet until I get my drivers working
[23:18] <riqj> a user post on superuser says 'so long as the normalized value > threshold value, nothing to worry about
[23:18] <freefall> ?
[23:19] <Steeeve> I'm on bluetooth tethered data on my other laptop until I can get my Intel driver working
[23:19] <Steeeve> Strangely, I can access internet through its Firefox but terminal applications (apt-get update; wget) don't work
[23:19] <Steeeve> Any ideas?
[23:20] <bumblefuzz> Hi!
[23:21] <jordan2> Have you tried turning it off and on again? :p
[23:22]  * riqj kneels in front of the wall and waits
[23:27] <winsen> Hi all
[23:27] <bumblefuzz> how do I know if a ppa is trustable?
[23:27] <OerHeks> bumblefuzz,
[23:28] <Bashing-om> !PPA | bumblefuzz You dont know
[23:28] <OerHeks> depends what ppa, 1 maintainer/group and do you read a lot about it?
[23:28] <winsen> does anyone know the difference between distro "ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64" VS debian-live-8.5.0-amd64-hamradio"? thanks
[23:28] <winsen> *and
[23:29] <OerHeks> winsen, see the releasenotes.
[23:29] <bumblefuzz> but what about my-weather-indicator?
[23:29] <OerHeks> hard to compare,debian and ubuntu. and hamradio
[23:30] <winsen> OerHers: I am just asking in general not in details
[23:31] <bazhang> winsen, there are websites that explain that, this ubuntu support only
[23:32] <OerHeks> https://www.debian.org/blends/hamradio/
[23:33] <winsen> OerHers: This also support question. I'd like to know the difference in order to know which one is light and stable.
[23:33] <nathan__> k1l_: lordcirth: didn't get back earlier(sorry), but k1l_ 's suggestion fixed it. It no longer asks about minecraft at all
[23:35] <OerHeks> winsen, you want to compare ubuntu amd64 with that debian compilation ?
[23:36] <winsen> OerHers: I thought both are based on debian isn't it?
[23:36] <k1l_> winsen: ubuntu is based on debian but it isnt debian.
[23:37] <OerHeks> yes, but why ?
[23:37] <OerHeks> why do you crosspost btw?
[23:37] <OerHeks> go test it yourself, we don't know your hardware and demands
[23:38] <winsen> OerHers: "what do you  mean debian compilation" and which one is?
[23:39] <winsen> K&l_: sure but our friend OerHeks seems to say that one of those is "debian compilation"?
[23:39] <lordcirth> nathan__, excellent
[23:39] <k1l_> winsen: please ask #debian how that spinoff is related to debian. we focus on technical ubuntu support in here.
[23:40] <winsen> bazhang: please don't torture yourself. It's also support question
[23:40] <OerHeks> polling is useless.
[23:40] <bazhang> winsen, not here it isnt
[23:40] <winsen> bazhang: are you gardian of this channel?
[23:41] <bazhang> winsen, yes
[23:41] <bazhang> please take the chit chat elsewhere winsen
[23:42] <winsen> bazhang: respect yourself otherwise I'll kick your ass right now
[23:42] <k1l_> winsen: please dont start a drama. you can have a read of the channel guidelines if you are unsure what this channel is for and what is allowed.
[23:42] <dirty_pages_joe> lol
[23:43] <k1l_> and that attitude and language is of course not wanted in the ubuntu community :/
[23:55] <dylan> h
[23:55] <Guest40933> hello people
[23:56] <winsen> k1l_: "
[23:56] <winsen> Self-respect is the cornerstone of all virtue."
[23:56] <BuckHere> Howdy :) Anyone wanna take a look at my ruTorrent settings and see why I'm getting so many of the files 'queued' ? here's a paste bin: http://pastebin.com/eCwGrzPF
[23:56] <bazhang> !ot | winsen
[23:56] <dirty_pages_joe> kkkkk on Internet???
[23:57] <Guest40933> people?