[00:01] <lordcirth> Guest40933, hello
[00:02] <winsen> bazhang: I already replied to you. go out and see if I am there.
[00:04] <dirty_pages_joe> hey bazhang !
[00:07] <wabbits> bump
[00:07] <wabbits>  how do I get rid of overscan on my hdmi display(acutally a tv)?
[00:13] <gp5st> since the 16.04 upgrade, I don't have a session-wide ssh agent. is that expected?
[00:17] <lordcirth> wabbits, well, try adjusting the TV settings first
[00:22] <ltrtiger> Clean install of 16.04 and the disable touchpad while typing problem is horrendous. Any suggestions?
[00:23] <lordcirth> ltrtiger, should be an option under mouse
[00:24] <lucas_ai> I can't get my @reboot crontab job to run my program. There is no error message in syslog (it shows up as if the command was run but it's not running). Any ideas?
[00:28] <ctobalius> hi
[00:29] <ltrtiger> lordcirth...my only option is to turn off the touchpad which I don't want to do...I just want to disable while typing.
[00:30] <lordcirth> ltrtiger, I think there's an option somewhere for that
[00:32] <t0rWh0r3> you could alternativly tape your thumbs on your hands :D
[00:33] <bazhang> t0rWh0r3, thats not helpful at all
[00:33] <ltrtiger> lordcirth, it seems that option was removed in 16.04.1.  I've not found it anywhere. Unity Tweak and Unity Tweak Tool were also of no help.
[00:34] <ltrtiger> It's a real annoyance/bug to be sure.
[00:35] <mchelen2> anyone know of a upnp/dlna server that is still maintained?
[00:35] <k1l> !info minidlna
[00:38] <mchelen2> k1l: oh i guess they do have some commits in 2016, although their last release was 2-15
[00:38] <mchelen2> 2015
[00:39] <k1l> well, it works. i dont know what there needs to be changed :)
[00:40] <ChetManly> is there a place to only talk about 14.04?
[00:40] <helpme8> How does snaps in Ubuntu 16 solve the dependencies problem during package installation?
[00:40] <k1l> ChetManly: ask here
[00:40] <ChetManly> I know there  is a +1 ...
[00:41] <t0rWh0r3> yes the place is called past
[00:41] <orlock> BluezHarp: Hohner?
[00:41] <k1l> qwas: there are no dependencies since snaps ship them.
[00:41] <ChetManly> how do I get a vbox 5.x qt in 14.04
[00:41] <max_adhd> ciao
[00:42] <qwas> k1l: what are the disadvantages for snaps? Are they bigger in size since they have to include dependencies?
[00:43] <k1l> qwas: they are a bit bigger. but in todays storage times that is not a real issue
[00:44] <qwas> k1l: would there be duplication of dependencies? Say, package X uses Y dependency. package Z uses Y dependency.  Both snaps include Y dependency.
[00:45] <t0rWh0r3> i suppose you want the contrib vbox google: oracle vbox and dl it from their page
[00:45] <k1l> qwas: i think yes. #snappy might have more details
[00:46] <t0rWh0r3> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[00:47] <bumblefuzz> so, when I open 'software & updates' and switch to the 'updates' tab, the drop down menu for 'when there are security updates' is totally grayed out and I can't change it... why is that? and how do I change it?
[00:48] <wabbits> lordcirth I tried that
[00:48] <k1l> bumblefuzz: is that the same user you created on install?
[00:49] <wabbits> to recap I tried all display apects
[00:49] <bumblefuzz> k1l yes
[00:50] <t0rWh0r3> ChetManly, dont forget to dl the extension
[00:51] <wabbits> gonna try this later on xrandr --output HDMI-0 --set underscan off
[00:58] <bumblefuzz> so, when I open 'software & updates' and switch to the 'updates' tab, the drop down menu for 'when there are security updates' is totally grayed out and I can't change it... why is that? and how do I change it?
[01:03] <bumblefuzz> seriously, 1835 people and no help?
[01:06] <xangua> bumblefuzz: you mean gnome boutique?
[01:06] <bumblefuzz> xangua: I think
[01:06] <bumblefuzz> it just says software & updates
[01:10] <bumblefuzz> I think it's what edits /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:15] <Phanes> for eol upgrade, in sources.list, when im swapping archive.ubuntu.com with old-releases.ubuntu.com, what should I be doing with the security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lines?
[01:15] <Phanes> leave as is?
[01:16] <Phanes> (i am on wiily)
[01:16] <Phanes> *wily moving to xenial
[01:17] <k1l> no need for using that right now on wily. the regular upgrade should still work
[01:17] <Phanes> not accurate, does anyone know?
[01:18] <Phanes> k1l, wily is now EOL and the archive packages have been removed
[01:18] <Phanes> you can see this if you go to the url
[01:19] <k1l> the upgrade should still work since it looks for the next release to upgrade to which is xenial which is still available
[01:19] <Phanes> that's simply not the case
[01:19] <Phanes> does anyone -know-?
[01:19] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | Phanes full details are here
[01:20] <Phanes> yes im reading that as i go, i dont need a link to a page already in front of me, if it were in there i wouldn't be asking
[01:20] <Phanes> does anyone, anyone at all -know-
[01:20] <k1l> Phanes: ok, i can do that attitude too: you really need to -read- that site linked. because it tells you exactly what to do.
[01:21] <cfhowlett> +1
[01:21] <Phanes> it says absolutlye nothing to do with the security.ubuntu.com entries
[01:21] <cfhowlett> Phanes, "To begin the upgrade, make sure you have a sources.list like the following, with CODENAME being your release, e.g. quantal. "
[01:21] <Phanes> you'd know that if you'd read it
[01:21] <Phanes> oh so it actually wants me to completely replace the file or comment out anything not matching those lines?
[01:22] <k1l> Phanes: so, it tells you what the sources.list should include. so what tells you that about the stuff you mention but is not mentioned on that example?
[01:22] <Phanes> and for "codename of your release" do they mean current state or target release?
[01:22] <k1l> it means -exactly- "codename of your release"
[01:23] <Phanes> ok well that would be both xenial and wily since im migrating from wily to xenial in this operation, so it really is important if they mean future state or current state, this could be more clear
[01:23] <k1l> "codename of your release" is very clear.
[01:24] <Phanes> ok, anyone not pretending to know that can help?  could use a bone here.
[01:24] <cfhowlett> you tried, k1l
[01:25] <k1l> Phanes: if i forgot what ma release is i would look it up with "lsb_release -sd". but what do i -know- ...
[01:25] <Phanes> no he didn't he just 'oh well hurdy dur dur its quite clear' instead of giving the expansion needed to clarify, because, having literally -developed- package managers in LFS builds, this could clearly mean either current state or future state for a release migration operation
[01:25] <Phanes> ok so you mean -current state- like i directly asked?
[01:26] <Phanes> "<k1l> Phanes: Yes it's current state."  <-- 4 words vs. all the tooth pulling you just put someone through for a perfectly reasonable question
[01:27]  * Phanes goes back to his upgrade, thanks
[01:27] <TurBoss> Hi
[01:28] <TurBoss> I'm trying to load "fuse module into ubuntu 16.04
[01:28] <k1l> Phanes: a user with your history showing that attitude in here. i guess you are the very wrong guy to tell others what to do.
[01:28] <bumblefuzz> where do I go to tell the system what to do when there are new security updates and I want them to automatically update and install?
[01:28] <TurBoss> but I can't fint it under l/lib
[01:28] <Phanes> k1l, no but if you need retrained on how to do these kinds of things i charge by the hour and can definitely help in a friendly way
[01:28] <cfhowlett> bumblefuzz, system > software updater > settings
[01:29] <k1l> Phanes: just to let you know since it seems you -forgot-: this is volunteers help in here and we dont like the attitude you are well known for.
[01:30] <Phanes> k1l, i am 100% reciprocal in all of my interactions.  give me what you want reflected.  i offer nothing else, ever, i promise.
[01:30] <bumblefuzz> ok, and what if the security dropdown is totally grayed out in there??
[01:31] <k1l> bumblefuzz: is your user in the sudo group? what is the output of "groups" in terminal?
[01:31] <cfhowlett> bumblefuzz, the system should demand your admin password before allowing changes.
[01:31] <bumblefuzz> user adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[01:32] <bumblefuzz> it does ask for my password
[01:32] <TurBoss> I can only find cuse.ko
[01:32] <bumblefuzz> and the other dropdowns are accessible
[01:32] <TurBoss> is the same?
[01:32] <bumblefuzz> but the security updates dropdon is grayed out
[01:32] <bumblefuzz> I can't do anything to it
[01:32] <k1l> bumblefuzz: right above that dropdown, is the security updates repo checked?
[01:33] <bumblefuzz> xenial-security? yes
[01:33] <k1l> uncheck it and check it again
[01:34] <bumblefuzz> ok...
[01:34] <bumblefuzz> and?
[01:34] <k1l> does it work now?
[01:34] <bumblefuzz> no
[01:35] <k1l> should work tho. dont know what breaks it
[01:35] <cfhowlett> same here
[01:35] <bumblefuzz> is there a .conf file that this program edits?
[01:35] <bumblefuzz> or similar?
[01:35] <k1l> bumblefuzz: i would try to relogin and see if its still the same
[01:36] <cfhowlett> bumblefuzz, yes.  try the relogin first
[01:36] <bumblefuzz> k
[01:38] <thechickenchaser> this lit
[01:39] <thechickenchaser> this is why fedora users hate ubuntu users^^^^
[01:39] <cfhowlett> thechickenchaser, this is ubuntu support. please stay on topic.  chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:40] <Phanes> ha, http://paste.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <Phanes> woops
[01:42] <Phanes> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23167415/
[01:43] <Phanes> linux-*-virtual packages not found using those instructions
[01:43] <Phanes> i suspect that they intended target release and not current state
[01:43] <Phanes> for sources.list
[01:43] <k1l> no they dont
[01:46] <Phanes> man oh man look at all those 404s
[01:46] <towerpink> In the first hour Sinead talks with holohoax exposers Monica and Alfred Schaefer to discuss their awakening, their activism and the recent raid on Alfred’s home in Germany.
[01:46] <Phanes> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23167427/ <--- 404s for most of those
[01:47] <towerpink> http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/firestarter-radio-building-resistance-8-30-16/
[01:47] <cfhowlett> towerpink, stop spamming this channel
[01:49] <bumblefuzz> ok, I rebooted
[01:49] <bumblefuzz> no change in the security dropdown menu
[01:50] <Phanes> these 404s are making me pretty nervous
[01:51]  * Phanes starts dd'ing the bad advice recovery thumb drive
[01:51] <lucas_ai> I installed opencv on ubuntu with apt. Where do I find the headers now so I can compile my c++ program?
[01:52] <k1l> Phanes: did you just say you got a bad advice from me?
[01:52] <t0rWh0r3> find / 2> /dev/null | grep -i opencv
[01:53] <Phanes> no but im quite nervous about these 404s in that paste and am worried this is about to tank due to something being wrong somewhere not accounted for in the walkthrough
[01:53] <Phanes> k1l, im currently running do-release-upgrade -m desktop right now because i got the same dump of 404s in the apt-get update
[01:54] <Phanes> but it just rolled back because it goe the same 404s
[01:54] <k1l> Phanes: that is why i said to not change the sources.list and run the upgrade in the first place
[01:55] <Phanes> the apt-get dist upgrade command doesn't work out of the box with EOL releases, im sorry but you can confirm this if you don't believe me
[01:56] <k1l> ubuntu doesnt use apt-get to upgrade to a new release since ages.
[01:56] <cfhowlett> exactomundo!
[01:57] <Phanes> i backed up the source.list before making any changes, i could always move it back and run do-release-upgrade if that's what youre suggesting (nothing so far in the guide has installed anything)
[01:57] <bumblefuzz> what document does software & updates edit?
[01:57] <bumblefuzz> the settings*
[01:57] <k1l> use update-manager on gui or do-release-upgrade on the cli to upgrade to a new ubuntu release. apt is only used for updates on ubuntu
[01:57] <t0rWh0r3> apt has super-cow powers it can everything
[01:58] <SonikkuAmerica> t0rWh0r3: It can't perform *release* upgrades
[01:59]  * Phanes is pretty sure do-release-upgrade wont work on wily to xenial migrations, but here goes
[01:59]  * Phanes restores sources.list
[01:59] <SonikkuAmerica> 15.10 to 16.04? it should!
[01:59] <t0rWh0r3> first i do after fresh install is disable the update-manager gui and install synaptic
[02:00] <Phanes> i really hope so
[02:00] <SonikkuAmerica> t0rWh0r3: My personal recommendation is running [ sudo apt full-upgrade ] in the terminal to perform distribution upgrades
[02:00] <Phanes> annnnnd 404s, all down my terminal, invading my upgrade
[02:01] <cfhowlett> SonikkuAmerica, and that is STILL not a release upgrade.
[02:01] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: You're correct.
[02:01] <SonikkuAmerica> I wasn't finished.
[02:02] <SonikkuAmerica> t0rWh0r3: and [ do-release-upgrade ], in my opinion, has a better chance than the Software Updater GUI to perform *release* upgrades
[02:02] <SonikkuAmerica> !dist-upgrade
[02:02] <SonikkuAmerica> !upgrade
[02:02] <SonikkuAmerica> And there you go, really
[02:02] <SonikkuAmerica> But I've generally found that someplace the GUI release upgrade tool will break
[02:03] <Phanes> cfhowlett, after restoring sources.list do-release-upgrade did this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23167466/
[02:03]  * Phanes crosses his fingers and trusts the advice
[02:03] <Phanes> wish i knew more about what it was actually doing under the hood
[02:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Phanes: theoretically you shouldn't have to do that in a root shell prompt...
[02:04] <k1l> Phanes: well, you 3rd party repos make issues
[02:04] <Phanes> k1l, yeah
[02:04] <Phanes> k1l, is "Err http://ppa.launchpad.net wily/main amd64 Packages" a 3rd party repo issue?
[02:05] <k1l> Phanes: but as i said right from the start this method works when you showed your lfs guru attitude and say i dont know about it.
[02:05] <terry364> We are waking up. We know what's happened. They can their Samson Option. That's all they have.
[02:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Phanes: The fact it reads "ppa" in the beginning of the URL should tell ya
[02:05] <terry364> Wrong chan.
[02:05]  * SonikkuAmerica facepalms
[02:06] <Phanes> no, i dont know what indicates, im relatively new to the ubuntu universe and dont know my way around the package sources yet
[02:06] <k1l> Phanes: read what it says down below
[02:06] <t0rWh0r3> i suppose you need also luck, i prefer a new installation, have separate home partition and your are in the same time done
[02:08] <t0rWh0r3> there need to be only one stupid brocken package, installed with dpkg and apt see this first while processing upgrade ...
[02:08] <k1l> t0rWh0r3: upgrades and updates do get automated testings on ubuntu. the upgrades do work. most times its 3rd party packages/installs that break the system because they cant get tested that way.
[02:09] <Phanes> so is ppa.launchpad.net 3rd party?  i was pretty sure those were official package sources?
[02:09] <Phanes> i honestly do not know
[02:09] <k1l> Phanes: they are not official. every person can make a PPA.
[02:09] <hggdh> Phanes: PPAs are not part of the official distro
[02:09] <Phanes> ah
[02:09] <t0rWh0r3> yes its true if you use only stable official pks you have better chances
[02:10] <Phanes> ok so this was going to remove fglrx
[02:10] <t0rWh0r3> but i have tons of custom stuff installed...
[02:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Phanes: fglrx? That obsolete thing is gone, sir
[02:10] <SonikkuAmerica> !fglrx
[02:10] <Phanes> hurr?
[02:10] <k1l> amd stopped making fglrx.
[02:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Try amdgpu nstead.
[02:11]  * Phanes is baffled
[02:12] <Phanes> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-04
[02:12] <freefall> question.. in task manager where it say a file using so much VM like knotify4 it say it using 1.5Gib is this a bad thing?
[02:12] <k1l> Phanes: because amd stops making fglrx and every distro shipping the latest xorg verison will have the same issue. amd makes amd_gpu now
[02:12] <Phanes> oh wow, ok, i need to roll back, i need the prop drivers.
[02:13] <cfhowlett> freefall, bad if you have only 2gb of VM.
[02:13] <Phanes> im using high end cards, the oss drivers will not do
[02:13] <k1l> Phanes: if its hight end cards they will be supported by amd_gpu from amd, which is the fglrx replacement
[02:14] <freefall> cfhowlett, how do i tell what my max vm is?
[02:14] <Phanes> well, that's a shame, guess its time to get a GTX 1080
[02:14] <Phanes> i was hoping to do that next month, i can wait a month to upgrade
[02:14] <cfhowlett> freefall, open a terminal: df -h
[02:14] <freefall> Phanes, your limited to what driver are built for linux by the chip maker..
[02:15] <cfhowlett> freefall, sorry.  terminal:   free
[02:15] <freefall> ok gonna say what would i look at with df
[02:16] <k1l> Phanes: you dont understand correctly: amd is turning back from making a binary and is supporting a open source driver instead. they even helped on radeon
[02:16] <t0rWh0r3> try the hardware manager for preporitary driver  in the setting
[02:16] <Phanes> freefall, yeah pretty much.  i was under the impression there was some kind of arrangement between canonical and amd for fglrx support not seen on most of the other distros, looks like that's fallen out, the open source drivers have never measured up to the propr. imho
[02:16] <k1l> Phanes: you are again too quick on your judgements making statements not based on facts.
[02:17] <cfhowlett> freefall, mem: total   is what you should look at
[02:18] <freefall> so amd is gonna use nautilus for it video driver support
[02:18] <Phanes> k1l, how is gl and 3d support on amdgpu?
[02:18] <k1l> it is the fglrx replacement from amd.
[02:19] <freefall> crap how do you copy paste from xterm?
[02:20] <Phanes> freefall, not sure about xterm but most terms like it just copy to clipboard when you release while highlighting text
[02:20] <cfhowlett> freefall, free | nc termbin.com 9999                should do it
[02:21] <Phanes> hrmmmm k1l: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver–Release-Notes.aspx
[02:21] <thor_> .desktop fil. This is in the commandline_: ~/Opt/dartium-lucid64-full-stable-1.19.0.0/chrome What im I doing wrong?
[02:22] <SonikkuAmerica> thor_: remove the "~" (tilde)
[02:23] <freefall> termbin.com/z2dg
[02:23] <mo7amed> hi
[02:23] <freefall> hello
[02:24] <t0rWh0r3> i use xsel to pipe terminal outputs to clipboard. "pwd | xsel -i" copies current folder to one clipboard -b to the other
[02:24] <cfhowlett> freefall, appears you have 1.5 gigs of ram.  technically ubuntu will run on that. you might find if helpful to run a less resource hungry desktop environment, e.g. xfce or lxde
[02:24] <t0rWh0r3> there are 2 clipboards
[02:24] <freefall> im on lubuntu
[02:25] <cfhowlett> freefall, excellent
[02:25] <freefall> what a better term beside xterm
[02:25] <Bashing-om> freefall: hold left mouse button and drag to copy . middle button to paste .
[02:25] <freefall> doh.. that what it was.. i did it before but i forgot.. thanks Bashing-om
[02:25] <SonikkuAmerica> freefall: I'd give lxterminal or qterminal a try :)
[02:25] <thor_> SonikkuAmerica: haha.. Thanks man!Its working now :) Too much, or not enough coffee, im not sure :D
[02:26] <freefall> ok SonikkuAmerica
[02:27] <freefall> so with VM like Knotify is there something id need to watch with free to know it not using to much? i though of killing knotify an use some xfce version..
[02:27] <mo7amed> hi
[02:27] <freefall> knotify is eating up 1.5gib of it..
[02:27] <freefall> hi mo7
[02:27] <cfhowlett> freefall, you'll know it's too much if your system noticeably slows or freezes.
[02:29] <Phanes> k1l, looks like AMDGPU-PRO is the fglrx equiv for users who need gaming-level performance if i am reading correctly
[02:29] <freefall> would this mean the swap file is full? or the page file use up the whole HDD?
[02:30] <t0rWh0r3> you can drop cache and free memory as root "echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches ; echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches ; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches"
[02:31] <freefall> may i ask what this does?
[02:31] <mo7amed> freefall:
[02:31] <t0rWh0r3> it drops cache from ram and frees memory
[02:32] <mo7amed> hi
[02:32] <t0rWh0r3> if your ram is full you will get significant part of it back
[02:32] <freefall> so it a force memery dump to the drive..
[02:33] <mo7amed> 4 g ram
[02:33] <freefall> well the cache that is.. does it reload it back when it needs it..
[02:33] <t0rWh0r3> no you drop caches memory in ram, so if its needed it have to be loaded again in ram
[02:33] <mo7amed> fucker
[02:33] <freefall> oh k
[02:33] <freefall> mo7 really?
[02:34] <mo7amed> y
[02:34] <cfhowlett> mo7amed, no profanity in this channel.  thank you.
[02:42] <twyK_> guys someone knows how to start screen on a script with crontab?
[02:45] <twyK_> because the script runs well a command but with screen doesn't start
[02:47] <theorem> how can I verify that the custom font is installed properly ?  (I have a custom font in .pcf and .fon format)
[02:48] <theorem> on font cache renewal I can't seem to find it with any utilities
[02:50] <theorem> I mean -- it picked them up -- why can't I use the fonts ?  : /home/theorem/.fonts: caching, new cache contents: 2 fonts, 0 dirs
[02:58] <trounce> hi
[03:12] <danraspi> ack
[03:12] <gian__> adada
[03:13] <gian__> #laravel
[03:27] <miib> hi
[03:50] <elspru> owncloud question, can I have multiple servers which sync with each other and look as though they are one server (load balancing).
[03:50] <elspru> ?
[03:51] <lordcirth> elspru, not really supported here, but yes, you can
[03:53] <wabbits> fell very silly asking this how do I kill my x server so that I can run `xrandr --output HDMI-0 --set underscan off`
[03:53] <lordcirth> wabbits, 'sudo killall Xorg' ?
[03:54] <wabbits> thanks will do
[03:54] <wabbits> do I run xrandr as the user or as root?
[03:57] <wabbits> lordcirth it respawned so fast I couldn't get xrandr run
[03:58] <lordcirth> wabbits, perhaps you need to stop your login manager temporarily
[03:58] <wabbits> tried telinit 3 and nothing happened
[04:00] <wabbits> okay I killed lightdm but I still can't run the command it says can't open display
[04:05] <wabbits> got the command to run still no joy
[04:14] <venkat_330> Guys i have a unattended system which runs under "test" login. Recently, I enabled password expiry for 90 days.
[04:14] <venkat_330> All i am expecting is if someone login in manually with user TEST after 90 days it should prompt user fro password change. For auto login It should just login.
[04:25] <stoneRsonmi-451> hi. does anyone know a good video capture software? i have an USB capture device
[04:27] <makerman> cheesy
[04:28] <energizer> There is a keybinding resolver in Atom, which shows what keyboard shortcuts are doing when you push them.
[04:29] <energizer> When I push alt-f, it thinks I'm just pressing alt. This suggests to me that something in my desktop environment is capturing alt-f before it gets to Atom.
[04:29] <energizer> What could it be?
[04:33] <energizer> It opens the top menu of the application instead of doing what the application keybinding specifies.
[04:34] <energizer> Why would alt-f do that?
[04:35] <ChetManly> how may I get more up to date versions of virtualbox in 14.04? namely 5.x and QT version
[04:35] <ChetManly> like who makes the QT version?
[04:40] <tatertots> ChetManly: how did you install virtual box?
[04:40] <ChetManly> tatertots: havent yet
[04:41] <ChetManly> tatertots: I believe the oracle way is gtk isnt it?
[04:41] <ChetManly> also is the one in the repo only 32 bit?
[04:41] <tatertots> ChetManly: to get the latest greatest version obtain it from oracle's own website and install it manually instead of the sudo apt-get / apt install
[04:42] <EriC^^> try apt-cache show virtualbox
[04:42] <tatertots> ChetManly: be prepared to manually install it and deal with any dependency
[04:42] <tatertots> ChetManly: if this seems like too  much you're better of just "sudo apt install virtualbox-qt"
[04:43] <tatertots> better off
[04:43] <ChetManly> I be aiiht just asking questions
[04:44] <tatertots> ChetManly: are you running a 32 bit operating system?
[04:44] <ChetManly> EriC^^: oh hey, you helped me sometime ago
[04:44] <ChetManly> cool story ...hey?
[04:45] <EriC^^> hey
[04:46] <ChetManly> think I had a different handle then thou
[04:46] <EriC^^> oh
[05:03] <lovelylira> Kyle speaks with Frank Raymond, author of the novel Sweet Dreams and Terror Cells. Frank is an Indian man living in Canada who has done an extensive study of the White mind and how it contrasts with non-Whites.
[05:03] <lovelylira> http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/solar-storm-frank-raymond-white-nature-9-11-16/
[05:04] <Corrie> Hello
[05:33] <hiro> ls
[05:47] <Ubuntivity> Hello everyone. I have Ubuntu 12.04 x64. My boot is taking too long. I looked at dmesg and found where the delay lies:
[05:48] <Ubuntivity> [   14.822090] EXT4-fs (sda2): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[05:48] <Ubuntivity> [   27.877591] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[05:48] <Ubuntivity> [   95.004280] init: failsafe main process (1068) killed by TERM signal
[05:48] <Ubuntivity> What exactly is the problem? and how to solve it?
[05:50] <Pistolero> Hello. I have a question regarding gnome-terminal. Is it possible to make sure that CTRL+K does not affect the clipboard? If I press CTRL+K it will put the removed text into the clipboard.
[05:54] <Ubuntivity> Here is my full dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/Z7rLEEBa . what is causing the delay?
[06:05] <Guest42751> help
[06:06] <Guest42751> hows everyone
[06:06] <guest> Hey I'm trying to use an old camera cradle. Would it show up in lspci even if there weren't a kernel module for it?
[06:07] <Triffid_Hunter> Guest: if it's a pci device, yes
[06:08] <guest> Well... USB is on the PCI bus, right? lol
[06:08] <guest> It connects through USB
[06:08] <guest> But I can't tell if ubuntu is recognizing it or not
[06:09] <sonicabt> Hey! I am running ubuntu 16.04 and for some reason the window auto-resize is disabled. Like, when I drag the window to right or left end the window resizes to half of screen starting from the respective end. Anyone knows how to enable it back?
[06:09] <sonicabt> Please help me out here.
[06:10] <NetworkingPro> hey everyone
[06:10] <NetworkingPro> is there a command to determine what mount a file is in?
[06:10] <NetworkingPro> like if i try to edit a particular file, and it tells me that its r/o
[06:11] <NetworkingPro> how can i tell which mount to remount r/w?
[06:13] <Guest42751> try linux mint or fendora it might help on ur old camera
[06:13] <guest> Why's that
[06:15] <linux> hello
[06:17] <Guest42751> or try "lshw" as superuser. it gives detailed list of all hardware, your camera and details about it should be listed in there.
[06:19] <hateball> guest: if you connect using usb, you use lsusb to list devices
[06:20] <hateball> guest: running "dmesg" after plugging the device in might give useful information as well
[06:21] <guest> A lot of "device descriptor read/64, error -110"
[06:21] <glitchd> hello all, i have a thunar question, is it ok to post it in here?
[06:21] <glitchd> im getting no reponse in #xubuntu..
[06:22] <guest> I wonder what kind of Zebra 17.04 will be
[06:23] <glitchd> zoiked zebra is my vote
[06:25] <hateball> !ask
[06:25] <avik> hello
[06:26] <glitchd> hateball, that was my first inclination, but didnt want to ruffle any feathers since its for xfce/xubuntu and this is ubuntu..
[06:27] <hateball> glitchd: No harm in asking
[06:27] <glitchd> how can i find incorrect mime types and edit them? my 16.04.1 install will not display svg icons in thunar.
[06:29] <glitchd> this all stems from the fact that the pictures icon on the left of my thunar window displays a broken link. upon further investigation, im finding the problem could be with mime types relating to svg images
[06:29] <glitchd> at least i think..
[06:31] <ducasse> glitchd: xfce has a mime editor, iirc you can find it under the settings manager
[06:32] <glitchd> ducasse, dear god. i somehow missed that. ive been trying to correct this stupid problem for a bit of a while now. thank you.
[06:34] <ducasse> glitchd: no problem, you might also want to check out tumbler.
[06:34] <Guest42751> To check if 'extension' mime type exist: grep 'extension' /etc/mime.types
[06:34] <glitchd> ducasse, im not even sure what exactly im doing lol
[06:35] <Guest42751> Open /etc/mime.types with text-editor(with root privileges) : gksudo gedit /etc/mime.types
[06:35] <ducasse> glitchd: tumbler is the thumbnailer service xfce uses. i would check that tumbler-plugins-extra is installed.
[06:36] <Guest42751> Add extension to /etc/mime.types in following format: text/extension                   extension
[06:36] <glitchd> ducasse, it was not, but its installing now
[06:38] <ducasse> glitchd: the mime settings for your user should be in ~/.config/mimeapps.list
[06:40] <glitchd> ducasse, here is what im trying to fix https://ibin.co/2unBPtlmxjb9.jpg
[06:41] <glitchd> ducasse, it just installed tumbler-plugins-extras i wonder if i should logout and back in to see if anything changes..?
[06:42] <glitchd> ducasse, if u notice in the picture, the link to my pictures displays a broken link..
[06:42] <glitchd> ducasse, and any svg icon in any folder displays the same thing
[06:43] <glitchd> thats why i thinks is a botched mime type
[06:43] <guest> Heh torrents.
[06:43] <guest> U pir8 u
[06:43] <glitchd> huh wha?
[06:44] <guest> I see yo Finished_Torrents off to da side
[06:44] <glitchd> oh, lol
[06:44] <glitchd> yeps
[06:45] <ducasse> glitchd: hmm, that is odd. only svg icons?
[06:45] <glitchd> ducasse, yes
[06:45] <glitchd> ducasse, and its even more weird that only that one link is affected by it
[06:46] <glitchd> affected/effected depending on how u look at it..lol
[06:47] <ducasse> glitchd: i'm sorry, i have no ideas. i really think the people in #xubuntu will be better able to help, or maybe #xfce.
[06:48] <xianmei> hello, i'm trying to unzip a .tgz file but tar -xvzf filename.tgz returns gzip: stdin: not in gzip format tar: Child returned status 1 tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now. i tried without the -z parameter in case it was not a gzip file as the filename says but the same happened
[06:49] <glitchd> ducasse, welp, thx anyways
[06:50] <ducasse> glitchd: have you tried another icon theme?
[06:52] <glitchd> ducasse, yes, and its fine in another icon theme, just this one particular theme seems to be effected by it
[06:53] <glitchd> and yes i know i can just use another icon theme, but i link this one.
[06:53] <ducasse> glitchd: can you try purging and reinstalling the theme?
[06:55] <glitchd> ducasse, i have no idea how to do that..
[06:55] <ducasse> glitchd: which theme is this?
[06:56] <glitchd> elementary xfce darker
[06:56] <glitchd> maybe just elementary xfce
[06:56] <glitchd> not sure if they are stored seperatly or not..
[06:56] <ducasse> glitchd: let me try it here
[06:56] <glitchd> i dont think thats gonna work tho..
[06:57] <glitchd> maybe it is tho
[06:57] <glitchd> i thought one thing but i was wrong..
[06:58] <glitchd> i changed icon themes and .svg images still didnt have thumbnails, but the icon for my pictures folder was fixed
[06:59] <glitchd> think it could have to do with xubuntu-desktop?
[06:59] <glitchd> this was ubuntu, but i installed xubuntu desktop on it
[07:00] <glitchd> for whatever reason ubunut with xubuntu desktop seems to always run better than just xubuntu
[07:00] <ducasse> glitchd: no other ideas, i think you need to wait for a response in another channel - sorry.
[07:00] <glitchd> lol no problem, thx anywas again
[07:01] <glitchd> acutally im just gonna say screw it an wait to upgrade
[07:03] <guest> I've always found Lubuntu to run megafast, but for some reason I sometimes get file corruption when copying files. I wonder if I would get the same problems running Ubuntu then installing LXDE. Or installing GNOME on top of Lubuntu
[07:07] <guardianL_> why do you think it's lubuntu's fault, and not your hardware for example?
[07:07] <guest> Because it's happened on various systems
[07:08] <guest> And the other buntus didn't do it to me
[07:08] <guardianL_> wow, ok, no idea
[07:09] <guest> Yeah, heh. Maybe it just hates me. That's an explanation I'm willing to accept.
[07:09] <ducasse> guest: have you tried another file manager?
[07:10] <guardianL_> i know nothing about lubuntu, maybe it's the file manager application that comes with it
[07:11] <zherlock> Suggestions for where I went wrong when I du "shutdown -P" or "poweroff" and I get "system halted" where I want to to talk (ACPI?) and actually power it down
[07:11] <guest> ducasse, I hadn't, no.
[07:11] <guest> Didn't really think to. Guess I just figured the file manager was tied to the DE
[07:11] <ducasse> guest: try thunar, caja or spacefm, for example.
[07:13] <Triffid_Hunter> Guest: well linux apps need their libraries of course, but will run under any DE/WM
[07:13] <Gkaro> hmm
[07:25] <guest-l1UmQJ> hc
[07:56] <aniketh_> I am using ubuntu 16.04. Its running on Hp laptop. I have a dual graphic card of nvidia GEFORCE + intel infact 4GB of nvidia graphics. Specification of my laptop are i7-6th gen processor, 12GB ram and 256SSD. My laptop is facing heating issue when it runs ubuntu and it gets stuck on boot up of ubuntu. As I have dual booted it with windows 10 till now I
[07:56] <aniketh_> haven't faced any such issues like this on windows. Can anyone help me to solve the heating issue and stuck of ubuntu on startup  ?
[07:57] <ZoF> aniketh_: how are you having heating issues in running ubuntu locally if you can't boot to it?
[07:57] <cfhowlett> aniketh_, I'm going to guess you may have improperly configured GPU drivers.  try booting the intel rather than nvidia
[07:58] <aniketh_> zoF: If I power off with the button many times and run in recovery mode it boots up.
[07:59] <cfhowlett> aniketh_, that points to configuration isssues.
[08:00] <ZoF> aniketh_: were you ever able to boot local now sometimes? Or is it only coming up in rescue?
[08:01] <aniketh_> cfhowlett: okay. let me try re-configuring it.
[08:02] <aniketh_> ZoF: Now I am working in ubuntu. At the boot up it gets stuck. When I do hard reset and boot ubuntu again the issue seems to get solved. but heating issue and battery drain remains.
[08:02] <omg_> Is it a very new laptop?
[08:03] <glitchd> is it possible to stop the system from switching sound devices when the screen saver activates?
[08:04] <aniketh_> omg_: Yes.
[08:04] <cfhowlett> aniketh_, install tlp may help with battery.
[08:05] <glitchd> aniketh_, details?
[08:05] <aniketh_> cfhowlett : okay
[08:05] <omg_> Very neew hardware often times is not yet fully supported
[08:05] <aniketh_> glitchd: details on what ?
[08:06] <glitchd> aniketh_, ...i thought u were responding to my question..im thinking not now tho..lol
[08:06] <samal> hi
[08:06] <KpuCko> hello does anybody knows about mac-telnet server?
[08:07] <aniketh_> glitchd : I was asking you need details of my problem or the specifications of my laptop.
[08:07] <samal> no sorry
[08:08] <glitchd> aniketh_, and as i said, i thought u were responding to my question, but i misread. my mistake. as for you problem, i have no idea what your problem even is..
[08:11] <omg_> aniketh_, I cant tell you exactly what your problem is but maybe your hardware is not properly supported yet.
[08:11] <aniketh_> glitchd: anyway thanks for your concern.cfhowlett is helping.
[08:11] <omg_> If i were you i would just leave it for some time and try again later
[08:12] <adamicron> what's the "default" screensaver, if there's one?
[08:12] <glitchd> aniketh_, alrighty then..
[08:12] <aniketh_> omg_: I do think so. But giving a try if i can solve it
[08:12] <adamicron> I'm on 16.06 desktop install
[08:12] <omg_> I myself have wasted so much time in the past trying to get things to work b
[08:12] <omg_> yes google around a bit
[08:12] <aniketh_> omg_ : on the heating issue ?
[08:13] <omg_> And most likely in some time it will be supported
[08:13] <omg_> Not heating issue specifically
[08:13] <ducasse> aniketh_: you could try a later kernel, maybe it has better support for your hardware
[08:14] <omg_> But other issues like not booting at all or hardware not woring (e.g. wireless)
[08:14] <aniketh_> omg_ : that's sad.
[08:14] <omg_> Yes
[08:15] <aniketh_> ducasse: I tried upgrading the kernel.
[08:15] <omg_> But now i dont buy the latest if i have to install ubuntu/other linux distros
[08:15] <ducasse> aniketh_: to which version?
[08:15] <ChetManly> to pin do I have to know all dependencies and apps will work on my distro?
[08:16] <ChetManly> I really want a better version of keepass on my system
[08:16] <ChetManly> without using a ppa
[08:17] <aniketh_> ducasse: its running on 4.4.0-31-generic
[08:17] <atralheaven> hi, I created a data partition with default options in /etc/fstab, now the user can't write to it, how can I fix it?
[08:17] <omg_> you could try 4.7
[08:17] <ducasse> aniketh_: i was talking about a much later mainline kernel
[08:17] <ducasse> !mainline | aniketh_
[08:18] <omg_> atralheaven: try chmod
[08:19] <atralheaven> omg_: what number should I set?
[08:20] <aniketh_> cfhowlett: Installed tlp. It's great. Now it's not draining like it usually did.
[08:21] <aniketh_> ducasse: Don't haver much idea of kernels and all. If you can please elaborate the things i should be doing
[08:21] <ducasse> aniketh_: see the link ubottu gave you
[08:21] <cfhowlett> happy2help! aniketh_
[08:21] <omg_> if you set 777 all users can read and write
[08:22] <aniketh_> ducasse: okay let me see through it.
[08:22] <omg_> i would change it back afterwards
[08:22] <atralheaven> omg_: well, only one user, and why the last 7?
[08:22] <aniketh_> cfhowlett: help me out through the heating issue too ;)
[08:25] <omg_> atralheaven: check http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_lts0090.php
[08:25] <omg_> Those numbers are for the owner, group owner and other users
[08:26] <atralheaven> omg_: I know, but I don't know actually what the others mean here
[08:26] <guest> How do I found out about the permissions string in ls -l
[08:26] <ducasse> atralheaven: chown or chgrp the file system to your user or group, then set perms afterwards.
[08:26] <guest> sometimes I see random letters at the end
[08:26] <guest> or at the beginning
[08:26] <guest> (Usually d)
[08:26] <atralheaven> omg_: and also does chown work here? if yes, isn't it better?
[08:26] <riqj> hello everyone, I got this result from smart test for my HDD: paste.ubuntu.com/23168312 ..while there are no current fails, there are pre-fail and old-age markings in some attributes..could you help me know what these tell?.
[08:27] <aniketh_> cfhowlett: how do I change the gpu configuration ?
[08:27] <cfhowlett> aniketh_, once logged in, you should have an nvidia app which performs the switch.  choose intel.
[08:28] <aniketh_> cfhowlett: I tried it through nvidia x-server setting. But didn't found any peculiar changes
[08:28] <cfhowlett> aniketh_, wait you don't have a dedicated app?
[08:29] <omg_> atralheaven: idont know which one would be better
[08:29] <aniketh_> cfhowlett: No I think. What I have is nvidia x-server setting.
[08:29] <omg_> i would use chmod and change it back afterwards
[08:29] <omg_> But that would be just a quick solution
[08:30] <atralheaven> omg_: I used chown, and then easily changed the permissions for myself
[08:30] <atralheaven> so, solved :) thanks!
[08:31] <aniketh_> cfhowlett: Can you suggest an app for that ?
[08:33] <cfhowlett> !nvidia | aniketh_,
[08:34] <guest> Matrox lol
[08:35] <guest> There's a blast from the past
[08:36] <guest> Legit question: Flash decided to stop working. I re-installed it via flashplugin-installer (it had originally been installed at setup [I'm guessing through ubuntu-restricted-extras]), and it started working again in Firefox, but not Opera.
[08:37] <guest> +How do I get it to work globally?
[08:42] <glitchd> how can i tell ubuntu not to switch sound devices when the screen saver/screen blank activates?
[08:43] <riqj> hello everyone, I got this result from smart test for my HDD: paste.ubuntu.com/23168312 ..while there are no current fails, there are pre-fail and old-age markings in some attributes..could you help me know what these tell?.
[08:43] <trudko> Hi everyone, I've downloaded deb package from Atom.io to install Atom Editor but now there is an update, so what should I do so Atom updates are automatic? Do I have to add some ppa?
[08:59] <EriC^^> riqj: it looks clean
[09:01] <EriC^^> trudko: did it add a ppa itself?
[09:02] <EriC^^> try ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d and look for any ppa's
[09:08] <trudko> EriC^^: doesn't seem so
[09:11] <jn_jn> giorno ubuntu
[09:13] <guest> chow
[09:14] <horiz0n> hi
[09:14] <horiz0n> I've posted a question on linuxquestions.org forum:
[09:14] <horiz0n> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5604049#post5604049
[09:15] <horiz0n> Does anyu one know when exactly rc.local script is running in 16.04.1
[09:15] <horiz0n> ?
[09:19] <Guest96144> hey
[09:20] <Guest96144> anyone around?
[09:21] <EriC^^> Guest96144: yes
[09:22] <Guest96144> hey
[09:22] <Guest96144> I'm having a  problem with gnome3
[09:23] <Guest96144> everytime I reboot it resets gnome layout
[09:23] <Guest96144> I have to re-enable extensions
[09:23] <Guest96144> everytime
[09:23] <Guest96144> is there a way to solve this?
[09:26] <EriC^^> Guest96144: try find ~ ! -user $USER
[09:26] <EriC^^> see if it gives you anything
[09:26] <Guest96144> it gives me a big list
[09:27] <Guest96144> really REALLy big list I should say :)
[09:32] <riqj> hello everyone, I got this result from smart test for my HDD: paste.ubuntu.com/23168312 ..while there are no current fails, there are pre-fail and old-age markings in some attributes..could you help me know what these tell?.
[09:32] <riqj> and the smart test in gnome disk utility says 'disk is OK'??
[09:33] <EriC^^> i got disconnected
[09:34] <riqj> tatertots could you please tell me why you dmed me to ask this 'how long have you been trying to learn what it means through chat room?'
[09:35] <k1l> !pm | tatertots
[09:36] <riqj> and with the knowledge that trolling is bad practice
[09:37] <bazhang> riqj, thats not needed nor welcome here
[09:37] <riqj> which one, bazhang? trolling?
[09:37] <cupof> Can my computer run Ubuntu https://postimg.org/image/o6kyg3rub/?
[09:38] <bazhang> riqj, do you have any actual ubuntu support questions, if so ask them, all on a single line
[09:38] <riqj> bazhang, I already asked thrice. while I was waiting, I got above dm. what do you mean?
[09:38] <riqj> I am not the one who trolled. and I don't need it either, and would like to resume to my question now
[09:39] <bazhang> riqj, I did not see it
[09:39] <riqj> ok
[09:41] <riqj> ok, once more:
[09:41] <riqj> hello everyone, I got this result from smart test for my HDD: paste.ubuntu.com/23168312 ..while there are no current fails, there are pre-fail and old-age markings in some attributes..could you help me know what these tell?.
[09:41] <riqj> and the smart test in gnome disk utility says 'disk is OK'??
[09:41] <riqj> the same thing is true both for an HDD and an EDD
 Pretty much any computer can Ubuntu
[09:41] <\9> riqj: the "pre-fail" and "old_age" don't really mean much
[09:42] <\9> the values are more important. you don't have much below 100 so there isn't much to worry about
[09:42] <\9> or at least this is my understanding
[09:42] <riqj> both the HDD and external drive are shown as 'disk is OK' in disk utility, but I am getting errors when I would like to create a partition with, say, the EDD
[09:42] <Rockwolf> that your hard drive is going to bite it pretty quick
[09:42] <Ben64> riqj: what error
[09:42] <EriC^^> riqj: i replied earlier, the disk looks clean
[09:42] <Rockwolf> how old is the drive?
[09:43] <riqj> oh, sorry, EriC^^, must have missed it
[09:43] <EriC^^> it looks as clean as a whistle in the smart data
[09:43] <EriC^^> (just taken a fall or 2 maybe)
[09:44] <\9> i have a pretty much brand new ssd, and it also is full of pre-fail and old_age labels
[09:44] <pv2b> My guess is that the pre-fail and old-age labels means what type of metric it is, not neccessarilly that there's a pre-fail or old-age condition
[09:44] <KlausedSource> does anyone know of a tool with that i can extract information (page dimensions, number of sheets/sides) from a pcl print file?
[09:44] <EriC^^> \9: you need to see the raw data it gives at the end, especially for reallocated sectors,events and pending sectors offline uncorrectable
[09:45] <riqj> Ben64, error like 'you requested a partition from x MB to y MB, the closest location we can manage is x MB to Y MB (yet the sectors in paranthesis differ by the last digit here)
[09:45] <Ben64> riqj: well that sounds self explanatory
[09:46] <riqj> Ben64, so what does it explain?
[09:46] <Ben64> you requested a size that isn't possible, so it suggested x,y
[09:46] <riqj> I wanted to create a partition as I always did, it never gave this error
[09:47] <EriC^^> riqj: how big of a partition?
[09:47] <Ben64> yeah, actual details would help
[09:47] <riqj> EriC^^, it was a free space between other partitions, and I wanted to use the whole of this space to create a new one
[09:48] <riqj> something like 11GB
[09:48] <EriC^^> how big though?
[09:48] <riqj> 11GB
[09:48] <EriC^^> ah
[09:48] <EriC^^> try cfdisk/cgdisk to make it
[09:49] <EriC^^> (f is for msdos partition tables, g for gpt)
[09:49] <riqj> should I maybe use gparted? gnome disk utility has a history with me of messing up the partitions with similar errors..
[09:50] <EriC^^> sure
[09:50] <ChetManly> if I installed ubuntu on surface pro would the touch work?
[09:50] <riqj> EriC^^, I will try with gparted now, and will proceed to your recommended tools if it doesnt work.
[09:51] <bazhang> ChetManly, is that a tablet or what
[09:52] <ChetManly> yeah a microsoft one, I dont know if unity supports touch on all displays
[09:52] <bazhang> !touch | ChetManly
[09:52] <k1l> ChetManly: ubuntu supports touchscreens. if that specific device works you best see if there is someone who actually got it running on it.
[09:52] <bazhang> try that channel above ChetManly
[09:52] <EriC^^> riqj: ok
[09:52] <k1l> ChetManly: and you will need to get the 32bit uefi stuff working.
[09:53] <ChetManly> k1l: pardon???
[09:53] <k1l> ChetManly: the "made for microsoft" tablets ship with 32bit uefi. that is a pain to get running on non-windows.
[09:54] <k1l> ChetManly: but the internet is full of "how to get ubuntu/linux running on surface" howtos where people describe what to do
[09:54] <ChetManly> 32 bit? so like uefi is 16 bit normally?
[09:54] <horiz0n> DOes anyone know the answer for my question posted here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5604049#post5604049
[09:54] <horiz0n> ?
[09:55] <k1l> ChetManly: no, its 64bit normally. the 32bit part is a "made for microsoft" exclusive.
[09:56] <ChetManly> so just to be clear the EFI is only 32 bit not the rest of the rig
[09:56] <k1l> ChetManly: yes.
[09:56] <ChetManly> ok good to know
[09:56] <ChetManly> ty
[09:59] <Krisostoomus> hey
[09:59] <Krisostoomus> dudes, i installed ubuntu in 5 min yesterday
[09:59] <Krisostoomus> is that fast or slow?
[09:59] <ChetManly> turbo negro
[10:01] <acetakwas> Is there any sticky note app for Ubuntu that docks to the right of the screen and appears when you click on it?
[10:01] <Krisostoomus> i have a problem. my mic is recording too quiet, is that some common problem? even though the input level is set to maximum
[10:02] <RLGyde> \q
[10:02] <Krisostoomus> i had the same problem with opensuse
[10:02] <acetakwas> Krisostoomus::  Try Pulse Audio Volume Control to be sure you have the right settings.
[10:03] <Krisostoomus> thanks
[10:08] <ChetManly> Krisostoomus: its like pavcontrol or something like that
[10:08] <ash_workz> what 'runs
[10:08] <ash_workz> ugh
[10:08] <ash_workz> what 'runs' the envvars file?
[10:08] <Krisostoomus> thanks
[10:12] <riqj> EriC^^, the partitions seem to have been created successfully with gparted..thank you very much!
[10:18] <EriC^^> riqj: great! no problem
[10:21] <Anticom> Hi all. I'm looking for a ppa providing conky themes
[10:21] <Anticom> I guess this is the "usual" way to get them, right?
[10:21] <Anticom> except if you're writing your own of course
[10:22] <RLGyde> Hey ... after a reboot of my ubuntu server I get channel: SHA1 verification failed, channel failed when I run sa-update, I am not sure about what to do, can you help?
[10:23] <borsuk> hi, please help me - how to install amd rx 480 on ubuntu 16.04
[10:24] <EriC^^> borsuk: try going to the dash then type drivers
[10:24] <erialdo> Hello, Where is the logout button in thunderbird. I want to logout from one account there
[10:25] <borsuk> EriC^^: i try install this drivers http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx
[10:26] <OnkelTem> Hi
[10:26] <OnkelTem> I'm trying to compress a folder in Dolphin and need to provide an option to a compressor
[10:26] <OnkelTem> but I don't see any ways to specify ANY options
[10:26] <OnkelTem> https://sc-cdn.scaleengine.net/i/d74f38b79a481c03da4cf57d07916c40.png
[10:26] <OnkelTem> So I've selected "Compress" item from the right-button menu and then appeared this window
[10:26] <OnkelTem> Ideas?
[10:26] <OnkelTem> (This is KDE and Dolphin)
[10:27] <EriC^^> borsuk: explain more please
[10:27] <Anticom> erialdo: Edit --> Account Settings
[10:28] <Anticom> Should be somewhere in there (My lang is DE_de, so i have to guess the translation)
[10:29] <erialdo> Anticom: found it . i simply removed the account. Thanks
[10:29] <Anticom> cheers
[10:29] <borsuk> EriC^^: after install drivers and reboot a i have black screen
[10:34] <EriC^^> borsuk: i got disconnected
[10:34] <afrokarlsson> hi, i got call from turtle, in white house
[10:34] <EriC^^> can you give details about what you tried and what went wrong?
[10:34] <EriC^^> afrokarlsson: leonardo? the blue one?
[10:35] <afrokarlsson> mayday mayday where female siamease twin livs, i wanna fuck her immeditely
[10:37] <sonu_nk> hi When i am enabling Less secure app from Gmail setting i am getting this http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/5633/U88RRf.png and it domain hosted on Linode
[10:39] <k1l> sonu_nk: gmail only wants its own gmail clients/weblogin to be used and is warning that other apps are insecure, while they arent
[10:40] <sonu_nk> i know but if domain hosted on another server and you are using gmail app for that domain like email@mywebsite.com
[10:40] <sonu_nk> then we need to do some setting on server and my server os ubtunu
[10:40] <sonu_nk> ubuntu
[10:42] <borsuk> EriC^^: after install drivers and reboot a i have black screen
[10:45] <karavomi> hi
[10:45] <EriC^^> borsuk: do you need it to work with that driver?
[10:51] <aiyaiyai> Hello, I have a remote xenial box that is giving me some trouble removing 3 old kernel related stuff
[10:52] <EriC^^> !paste | aiyaiyai
[10:52] <borsuk> EriC^^: What are the alternatives
[10:52] <EriC^^> borsuk: the default ones in ubuntu
[10:52] <k1l> borsuk: did the install report any errors? can you show that in a pastebin?
[10:53] <aiyaiyai> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23168746/
[10:53] <aiyaiyai> it is doing it for 34 and 35 as well
[10:54] <borsuk> Installation is without error. In a moment I install Linux Mint 18 and pasted report
[10:54] <EriC^^> aiyaiyai: try to reinstall it then remove it with apt-get
[10:54] <k1l> borsuk: we cant support mint in here. ask the mint support
[10:54] <k1l> !mint | borsuk
[10:55] <k1l> aiyaiyai: did you manually remove the files before?
[10:56] <dami0> hi, one of my fonts randomly dissapeared, but it does still appear when i do fc-cache -f -v saying new cache contents 12 fonts
[10:56] <aiyaiyai> EriC^^: I've tried, it complains about dependencies and requests that I uninstall the 3 broken packages
[10:56] <dami0> but fc-list seemingly has no mention of it
[10:56] <aiyaiyai> k1l: manually how?
[10:56] <aiyaiyai> k1l: I stick to aptitude when possible
[10:57] <k1l> aiyaiyai: depmod: FATAL: could not load /boot/System.map-4.4.0-32-generic: No such file or directory
[10:57] <EriC^^> aiyaiyai: try sudo dpkg --force-all --remove <package> for all 3, then reinstall them with apt-get and remove properly
[10:58] <dami0> nvm, figured it out. turns out an update caused 70-no-bitmaps.conf to get recreated
[10:58] <joost12345> Hello,  I just started using ubuntu,  but now I can't boot my pc anymore.  It gets stuck at the following screenMessages https://imgur.com/gallery/rmZsS
[10:58] <aiyaiyai> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23168759/
[10:59] <aiyaiyai> k1l: I see it but I didn't manually nuke anything
[11:00] <aiyaiyai> EriC^^: do you think I'm OK to reboot this thing or is grub screwed?
[11:00] <k1l> aiyaiyai: run a sudo update-grub
[11:01] <aiyaiyai> k1l:  ok, that didn't show any failures
[11:01] <aiyaiyai> k1l: rebooting
[11:02] <EriC^^> aiyaiyai: if you have other kernels that are newer it should just boot
[11:02] <aiyaiyai> EriC^^: 36 and 38
[11:03] <aiyaiyai> EriC^^: I'd just like to figure out why aptitude is puking on itself
[11:03] <EriC^^> 38 is installed fine or broken?
[11:03] <EriC^^> which one are you booted into right now? (uname -r)
[11:03] <aiyaiyai> EriC^^: 36 and 38 are fine and I'm rebooting right now
[11:03] <aiyaiyai> EriC^^: into 38
[11:04] <EriC^^> aiyaiyai: before rebooting, try the dpkg command with remove instead of --remove
[11:04] <aiyaiyai> EriC^^: sorry, already rebooted
[11:04] <EriC^^> it's kind of odd it still complained about missing stuff, it should just remove it
[11:04] <EriC^^> np
[11:04] <aiyaiyai> EriC^^: want me to try again? the --remove was accepted last time
[11:05] <aiyaiyai> EriC^^: aka, valid command but still had the same problems
[11:05] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:06] <aiyaiyai> EriC^^: reboot went fine but still have the problem with those 3 packages
[11:08] <EriC^^> yeah, give it a shot
[11:08] <EriC^^> :)
[11:08] <EriC^> i got disconnected
[11:08] <EriC^> any luck?
[11:10] <aiyaiyai> EriC^^: I tried a global upgrade again and it is saying use full resolver
[11:11] <aiyaiyai> EriC^^: hmm, no, same shenanigans
[11:12] <k1l> aiyaiyai: please run a "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" and put all the output into paste.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <joelio> 7
[11:16] <aiyaiyai> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23168795/
[11:17] <k1l> sudo apt purge linux-image-extra-4.4.0-32-generic
[11:20] <aiyaiyai> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23168807/
[11:20] <k1l> not aptitude :/
[11:21] <aiyaiyai> k1l: apt or apt-get?
[11:21] <k1l> apt is the new apt-get
[11:22] <k1l> if that still fails then try a "sudo apt-get install -f"
[11:25] <aiyaiyai> k1l: both commands return exactly the same thing
[11:25] <aiyaiyai> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23168821/
[11:25] <riqj> hello again! while I create partitions, there are little partitions automatically created next to them, like for a 30gb partition I see 1,2MB tiny partition next to it..why does this happen? is it an error?
[11:25] <joost12345> Hello,  can anyone help me?  After installing Nvidia drivers I can't login(because I loop back to the loginscreen after logging in
[11:26] <k1l> aiyaiyai: did you run out of space?
[11:26] <k1l> aiyaiyai: "df -h" will tell you
[11:26] <aiyaiyai> k1l: 53GB free
[11:26] <k1l> aiyaiyai: is /boot a sperate partition?
[11:27] <aiyaiyai> k1l: it is not
[11:27] <Krisostoomus> whazza?
[11:28] <k1l> aiyaiyai: "sudo mv /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools 4.4.0-32-generic /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools 4.4.0-32-generic.bad"
[11:28] <k1l> aiyaiyai: after that run the purge command again
[11:29] <k1l> aiyaiyai: and there must have really been an issue in the first place. that mess doesnt create itself
[11:29] <aiyaiyai> k1l: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools 4.4.0-32-generic doesnt exist
[11:29] <aiyaiyai> :(
[11:30] <k1l> aiyaiyai: erm, wait
[11:30] <k1l> aiyaiyai: "sudo mv /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools.bad"
[11:31] <aiyaiyai> k1l: urm, can you explain your intentions please?
[11:31] <cetabio> Hi can someone help me with an issue on terminal?
[11:31] <cetabio> When I run comands I dont see any output
[11:31] <cetabio> when in other machines I have worker with those comands give output
[11:32] <cetabio> like service service apache2 restart
[11:32] <cetabio> what may be the reason?
[11:32] <aiyaiyai> k1l: will I be able to upgrade to future kernels after following your instructions?
[11:32] <k1l> aiyaiyai: that script gets triggered when you want to uninstall a kernel. since you got a messy system and dont explain what you did, the intention is to set the script not to run so the remove doesnt fail. afterwards enable that script again
[11:32] <aiyaiyai> k1l: ok, trying now
[11:33] <aiyaiyai> k1l: after rename I try the removal again?
[11:33] <k1l> yes
[11:34] <wacko> Brave browser?
[11:35] <cetabio> any idea?
[11:36] <aiyaiyai> k1l: wow, progress I think. it failed on 32 but success on 34 and 36. ran it again and 32 yanked out with just the one harmless error on all 3
[11:36] <k1l> pastebin the output
[11:36] <aiyaiyai> I'll rename the initramfs tools script now
[11:38] <aiyaiyai> k1l: sorry, half of it is off my screen but heres what is left http://paste.ubuntu.com/23168863/
[11:38] <aiyaiyai> k1l: thanks for the help!
[11:39] <k1l> aiyaiyai: ok, that worked. now:
[11:39] <k1l> aiyaiyai: "sudo mv /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools.bad /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools"
[11:40] <aiyaiyai> k1l: affirmative, I think I'm back to normal
[11:40] <aiyaiyai> k1l: guess I'll know next time there is a newer kernel
[11:40] <k1l> aiyaiyai: no
[11:40] <k1l> aiyaiyai: that is a very dirty  workaround. better to find what is the source of that mess.
[11:41] <aiyaiyai> k1l: urm, you have any more ideas?
[11:42] <k1l> again: i dont know what you did when that first happend
[11:42] <aiyaiyai> k1l: should I try installing an older kernel again and removing?
[11:45] <aiyaiyai> k1l: darn, you're right, not fixed
[11:46] <Fletch> Didly do
[11:51] <aiyaiyai> k1l: are you done?
[11:58] <aiyaiyai> I could use some help with a kernel / initramfs / package issue
[11:59] <aiyaiyai> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23168952/
[12:00] <k1l> aiyaiyai: is that a server on aws?
[12:01] <zenified> what's it
[12:01] <k1l> aiyaiyai: what is the output of "ls -la /var/tmp"
[12:01] <aiyaiyai> k1l: negative
[12:02] <aiyaiyai> k1l: /var/tmp is empty
[12:02] <k1l> please put the output in a pastebin since details matter
[12:03] <aiyaiyai> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23168966/
[12:04] <zenified> aiyaiyai: from when did ls start to return negative
[12:04] <alexsavage> Hello guys, i have this problem where Unpacking linux-headers-4.4.0-36  keeps hanging. I have checked online and none of the solutions worked.
[12:04] <aiyaiyai> zenified: I don't follow
[12:09] <alexsavage> I should prob mention that this happens no matter what i attempt to install.
[12:10] <aiyaiyai> k1l: I'm finding some instances of others with these errors but no solutions yet
[12:10] <aiyaiyai> k1l: what is with /var/tmp ?
[12:11] <alexsavage> Yeah i sometimes get locked out of that. So then I have to restart, and then do sudo dkpg configure. but it just hangs after tht again
[12:11] <alexsavage> should i just do a fresh install?
[12:12] <luggrian_> luggrian_ ???
[12:13] <luggrian> Moin
[12:22] <riqj> hello again! is it risky to install an OS to a partition on an external drive while there are already other partitions on it that contain data?
[12:23] <ouroumov> riqj: yes
[12:23] <riqj> ouroumov, but there is the custom install option?
[12:23] <riqj> I mean I can choose the free partition that I'd like to use
[12:23] <ouroumov> Yes, but any time you do stuff involving "partitions" it's risky. Please do backup.
[12:24] <riqj> ouroumov, oh I see, it doesn't have to happen, but that just 'may' happen, you mean?
[12:25] <ppf> hi folks
[12:25] <ouroumov> riqj, yes.
[12:25] <ppf> brainstorming question: i've got an ubuntu laptop, and a DP to VGA adapter to connect it to a beamer. when i plug in the beamer, xrandr doesn't even detect a new adapter being connected
[12:26] <ouroumov> riqj, Most likely it won't happen, but better safe than sorry.
[12:26] <riqj> ouroumov, I understand. sure, I have their backups. thank you very much!
[12:26] <ppf> the adapter works fine when i plug in another monitor, and the beamer works fine if i plug in another windows laptop
[12:27] <ppf> any random thoughts what i might try to get this working?
[12:28] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[12:29] <ouroumov> ppf, check output of "lshw -C display"
[12:29] <ppf> ouroumov: check it for what?
[12:30] <Caelum> anyone notice slow speeds from ubuntu.com repos right now?
[12:31] <ducasse> Caelum: are you using a mirror?
[12:31] <Caelum> nope, us.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:31] <volkan> Bonjour
[12:32] <Caelum> I guess I should switch to a mirror
[12:32] <ouroumov> !fr | volkan
[12:32] <volkan> Hello you speak fransh
[12:33] <zenified> no
[12:33] <volkan> ok
[12:33] <zenified> volkan: you will have your friends at #ubuntu-fr or #ubuntu-qc
[12:33] <ducasse> Caelum: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[12:33] <ppf> ouroumov: lshw will tell me details about the controller inside my laptop, not about connected displays
[12:36] <apaul> hi all.
[12:36] <ocx32> hi all, i am using ubnutu 16 and want to access my desktop remotelty from home. i am using gnome how can i do that?
[12:36] <apaul> I need to create the iso image of my running system so that I can dd it to another hard disk directly.
[12:37] <apaul> Is there any way to do this?
[12:37] <joelio> apaul: why do you need to make an ISO? Why not just copy data directly with dd?
[12:38] <apaul> I have tried systemback to create iso image but dd it directly to disk takes me to installer setup. That I dont like.
[12:38] <ocx32> ???
[12:39] <riqj> hello again :) ubuntu installer usb has a small 2,4mb partition alongside the larger installer one. is it new? It was only one single partition before.
[12:39] <apaul> I need to run the disk as my system without running installer and all.
[12:39] <borsuk> i have black screen after install kernel 4.7
[12:40] <EriC^^> riqj: nope it's been that for a while, it's a hybrid iso so it works with legacy and efi
[12:41] <EriC^^> riqj: oh, i meant if you dd the iso directly, i'm not really sure about using unetbootin and other stuff
[12:41] <ceesietopc> I am running Ubuntu Desktop 16.04.1 in a VM. One way or another, the virtual disk got corrupted. It took me hours to get my installation up and running again, since the kernel and kernel libraries were corrupt. Now the boot seems to work, but I'm stuck in boot. A number of services fails to start (modemmanager, network manager, login service, account service).  See the following img: https://snag.gy/o08tEV.jpg  I tried chrooting into the
[12:41] <ceesietopc> installation and reinstalled a couple of 'm. Did not help. Any idea's?
[12:42] <riqj> EriC^^, I haven't used dd, but the startup disk creator of ubuntu.
[12:42] <EriC^^> riqj: dd is great, it's very reliable
[12:42] <riqj> EriC^^, but I see the same when I create a partition on external disk, next to the partition also tiny ~2mb partitions emerge.
[12:43] <riqj> the same thing?
[12:43] <EriC^^> riqj: no that's odd
[12:43] <riqj> yes, they are my odd disks that have old-age and pre-fail attribs that I showed earlier today :)
[12:43] <EriC^^> you mean using gparted on an external hdd?
[12:44] <riqj> EriC^^, yes, that happened when I used gparted
[12:44] <EriC^^> riqj: can you supply a paste of "sudo parted -l" ?
[12:44] <riqj> sure
[12:47] <riqj> EriC^^, here it is: paste.ubuntu.com/23169101
[12:47] <riqj> and it asks me a question at the end
[12:48] <riqj> the tiny partitions are not shown in the paste
[12:49] <k1l> aiyaiyai: the "mktemp: failed to create directory via template ‘/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_XXXXXX’: No such file or directory" seems to be the root cause. so anything you want to tell us about your setup?
[12:49] <EriC^^> riqj: yeah
[12:50] <aiyaiyai> k1l: do people actually come in here knowing what their problem is and just wanting to toy with you?!
[12:51] <Vacuum_> Hi
[12:51] <sicsscam> aiyaiyai, whats ubuntu? how do i go about installing it to my IDE hard drive ?
[12:52] <Vacuum_> I am trying to install kubuntu 16.14.1 LTS but after a minut of boot from live dvd, I see a tty1 screen asking me login and password. What should i do?
[12:52] <k1l> aiyaiyai: no. but as i said earlier: that is not a common issue you have there. and we do have a lot of people coming in here and hiding or not telling what they really did (for whatever reasons). and after 5 hours we find out that they removed some partition or package "because a youtube video said so". so i try to speedup things here.
[12:52] <Vacuum_> after 10 seconds, that also fades away and a courser starts blinking at top left
[12:52] <k1l> aiyaiyai: so again: what did you change regarding ram, tmp, or such? what did you do when the issue came up the first time?
[12:53] <aiyaiyai> k1l: this is a box sitting in a basement far away. I log into it once a month.
[12:53] <aiyaiyai> k1l: nobody else has access to it. I logged in today to do the usual monthly maintenance, and this crap happened
[12:54] <k1l> aiyaiyai: anything regarding hardware issues in "dmesg"?
[12:54] <punkoivan> Vacuum, do you have AMD graphics?
[12:54] <aiyaiyai> k1l: I've perused the history file, I've checked everything I can think of
[12:54] <Vacuum_> punkoivan:  I have dell laitude e5430
[12:54] <ioria> aiyaiyai, with the linux-image-4.4.0-38-generic installed ?
[12:55] <borsuk> please help me how install kernel 4.7
[12:55] <aiyaiyai> k1l: dmesg has been saying the cpu is running hot for about a year
[12:55] <k1l> !mainline | borsuk
[12:56] <punkoivan> Vacuum, I re;lay don't know what graphics in your laptop, but there is some issues with AMD.
[12:56] <k1l> aiyaiyai: i was thinking of ram or hdd issues
[12:56] <aiyaiyai> k1l: last time I was there, it didn't feel even warm to the touch so I chalked it up to sensor malfunction
[12:56] <Vacuum_> punkoivan:  solution?
[12:56] <punkoivan> vacuum, try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[12:57] <aiyaiyai> ioria: affirmative
[12:57] <ioria> !info linux-image-4.4.0-38-generic
[12:57] <Vacuum_> Latitude E5430 review unit features an Intel Core i5-3360M dual-core CPU with Intel HD Graphics 4000 (
[12:57] <Vacuum_> punkoivan:  ^
[12:57] <punkoivan> Hm..
[12:57] <ioria> aiyaiyai,  how did you install it ?
[12:57] <aiyaiyai> ioria: uname says Linux s0 4.4.0-38-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 6 15:41:41 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:57] <punkoivan> with Unity or gnome/xfce all right?
[12:58] <borsuk> thanks, but after install i have black screen
[12:58] <punkoivan> did you try this one?
[12:58] <Vacuum_> punkoivan:  http://www.dell.com/pk/business/p/latitude-e5430/pd
[12:58] <aiyaiyai> ioria: aptitude update && aptitude upgrade or some such
[12:58] <ioria> aiyaiyai,  maybe i'm wrong, but in repos there is no 4.4.0.38
[12:59] <Vacuum_> punkoivan:  I am INSTALLING KUBUNTU. how can I issue these commands?
[12:59] <aiyaiyai> ioria: relevance?
[12:59] <ioria> aiyaiyai,  well, you should have install it in some other way ...
[12:59] <punkoivan> something like apt install ubuntu-desktop.
[13:00] <punkoivan> after login in tty1.
[13:00] <Kamuela> How does Ubuntu report "activity?" Like say to instant messenger programs and web browsers
[13:00] <k1l> Kamuela: that depends on the used messengers and websites.
[13:00] <ioria> aiyaiyai,  and ls -al /var/tmp gives me write permission for everybody
[13:01] <aiyaiyai> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23169145/
[13:01] <ioria> aiyaiyai,  i see
[13:02] <aiyaiyai> ioria: there is no conspiracy, it just broke via normal usage
[13:02] <aiyaiyai> k1l: I found others with similar problems online and no solution too...
[13:02] <ioria> aiyaiyai,  maybe a ppa ... or downloaded .deb files from mainline ....
[13:03] <riqj> so nothing accounting for the tiny volumes? :)
[13:03] <aiyaiyai> ioria: ok, hold on I'll try to get a ppa list
[13:03] <k1l> aiyaiyai: do you have proposed enabled?
[13:03] <ioria> brb, sy
[13:04] <aiyaiyai> ioria: ok, I have only a deluge ppa but that has been there years
[13:04] <disco_> Hi there.
[13:05] <aiyaiyai> k1l: I don't think so, how can I check?
[13:05] <aiyaiyai> k1l: is that an apt setting?
[13:05] <OerHeks> aiyaiyai, easy check, run updates and pastebin the output
[13:05] <TKoL> would someone mind helping me? I have a package i'm trying to install on elementaryos and it's not working
[13:06] <k1l> aiyaiyai: its a repo setting in the sources.list
[13:06] <TKoL> i'm trying to install this: https://github.com/agronick/Relay
[13:06] <aiyaiyai> OerHeks: this is headless
[13:06] <disco_> Seems I've an issue with package key signing. When I do an apt-get update, APT pretends that there is no public key. Adding the key with pt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com KEYID # doesn't solve the problem, even though the key seems to be added correctly.
[13:06] <TKoL> and i get an error in terminal when i follow the directions
[13:06] <OerHeks> TKoL, try #elementary as it is not ubuntu
[13:06] <OerHeks> elementary has its own issues ..
[13:07] <OerHeks> aiyaiyai, headless or not, makes no difference
[13:07] <aiyaiyai> k1l: this is sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/23169174/
[13:07] <Vacuum_> I am trying to install kubuntu 16.14.1 LTS but after a minut of boot from live dvd, I see a tty1 screen asking me login and password. What should i do?
[13:07] <Vacuum_> after 10 seconds, that also fades away and a courser starts blinking at top left
[13:08] <teknoprep> Vacuum_, what video card do you have ?
[13:09] <aiyaiyai> k1l: so looks like a "no" on the proposed
[13:09] <teknoprep> brb
[13:10] <OerHeks> aiyaiyai, you have proposed enabled.
[13:10] <Vacuum_> teknostatik:  I dont know but this is what I have http://www.dell.com/pk/business/p/latitude-e5430/pd
[13:12] <k1l> aiyaiyai: deb http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[13:12] <Vacuum_> I dont know but this is what I have http://www.dell.com/pk/business/p/latitude-e5430/pd
[13:12] <teknoprep> hi all... does xfce look similar to unity ?
[13:12] <k1l> aiyaiyai: that is a yes on proposed and that is an issue. since proposed is used for experimental automated testing of new packages.
[13:13] <teknoprep> i didn't think it did at all last time i used it.. how do i switch DE's ?
[13:13] <OerHeks> Vacuum_, what happens if you waited a minute more? booting live dvd can take some time
[13:13] <Vacuum_> I dont know but this is what I have http://www.dell.com/pk/business/p/latitude-e5430/pd teknoprep <--
[13:13] <teknoprep> yeah that looks like an intel HD Graphics card
[13:13] <Vacuum_> OerHeks:  wait or no wait, password enter or no enter, it ends to a black scren with curousor blinking on left top
[13:13] <aiyaiyai> OerHeks: agreed, proposed enabled
[13:14] <teknoprep> Vacuum_, try setting nomodeset in the kernel option when booting... i will give you a link
[13:14] <aiyaiyai> k1l: so we're blaming it on that?
[13:14] <OerHeks>  !nomodeset
[13:14] <teknoprep> Vacuum_, skubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu
[13:14] <Vacuum_> teknoprep:  this will solve the problem?
[13:15] <teknoprep> Vacuum_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu
[13:15] <teknoprep> Vacuum_, it may... it will not use a vendor specific driver
[13:15] <Vacuum_> ok
[13:15] <teknoprep> Vacuum_, you may also have to do this on first boot... and then figure out how to install your video card driver
[13:16] <teknoprep> how do i switch DE's ?
[13:16] <OerHeks> aiyaiyai, proposed are newer packages that needs to be tested.
[13:16] <OerHeks> teknoprep, logout, switch, login
[13:18] <aiyaiyai> OerHeks: I'm certain disabling proposed won't fix the problem now
[13:19] <OerHeks> indeed, reversing proposed is a hell of a job, reinstall would be faster and saver
[13:19] <k1l> aiyaiyai: in proposed are actual testing packages. so maybe you have installed that packages that create the issue now. or it was a testing package making a setting that never was reverted.
[13:20] <aiyaiyai> k1l: is this end of the line?
[13:21] <k1l> aiyaiyai: no. but disableing that lowers the risk for the future.
[13:21] <k1l> aiyaiyai: can you show a "mount" in a pastebin?
[13:21] <k1l> i wonder why its not using /var/tmp
[13:23] <teknoprep> yeah xfce is nice
[13:23] <ahmed_> hello
[13:23] <aiyaiyai> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23169216/
[13:23] <teknoprep> way faster than unity
[13:23] <teknoprep> Vacuum_, did nomodeset thing work ?
[13:24] <aiyaiyai> I removed the proposed lines
[13:25] <k1l> "tmpfs on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,mode=755)"
[13:25] <k1l> why is that ro?
[13:26] <k1l> aiyaiyai: can you show your fstab?
[13:27] <aiyaiyai> k1l: sorry, I don't know why that is read only
[13:28] <aiyaiyai> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23169234/
[13:30] <dami0> hey guys, do you know of any documentation for the ubuntu install process?
[13:31] <dami0> i don't mean how to install, i mean the actual inner workings of what happens during installation
[13:31] <EriC^^> !install | dami0 maybe
[13:31] <k1l> !ubiquity | dami0
[13:32] <k1l> dami0: well it uses ubiquity as installer.
[13:32] <Vacuum_> teknoprep: working on it. it shows my a gui with
[13:33] <Vacuum_> teknoprep: working on it. it shows my a gui with 'try ubuntu', i'install ubuntu' check, these kind of options
[13:33] <k1l> aiyaiyai: i checked 2 16.04 systems and on both its rw. maybe that is the issue why the tmp is not used. but i dont know how to handle that
[13:34] <teknoprep> Vacuum_, i don't understand
[13:35] <aiyaiyai> k1l: me neither. did u c what happened when I tried force reinstall of initramfs-tools?
[13:36] <k1l> no, didnt see it
[13:37] <Vacuum_> teknoprep:  it does not shows grub
[13:37] <aiyaiyai> k1l: same as with kernels, it reinstalls itself with the script renamed but doesn't fix the renamed script
[13:38] <aiyaiyai> fails to reinstall if script is not renamed .bad
[13:38] <teknoprep> Vacuum_, try hitting esc when you boot up
[13:38] <k1l> aiyaiyai: because it still wants to use tmp which doesnt work (because its ro)
[13:41] <aiyaiyai> k1l: will things break worse if I change ro to rw in fstab?
[13:42] <aiyaiyai> k1l: but that is only on errors/ remount hmmm
[13:42] <shashank> hello
[13:42] <c1_> what does push "redirect-gateway def1 bypass-dhcp" do?
[13:43] <Pici> c1_: in what context?
[13:43] <shashank> can any one tell me python related problem
[13:43] <k1l> aiyaiyai: i really dont know.
[13:43] <c1_> openvpn
[13:43] <k1l> shashank: is it #ubuntu or #python related?
[13:44] <shashank> how to send pdf weekly?
[13:44] <shashank> on email
[13:45] <Pici> shashank: that sounds like a programming question. Please ask #python
[13:45] <shashank> what is vpn
[13:46] <aiyaiyai> I think shashank is a bot gone crazy
[13:46] <aiyaiyai> it PMed me too
[13:46] <shashank> no
[13:47] <joelio> or a bot looking how to use cron.weekly plus a pipe to mail
[13:49] <shashank> hey
[13:50] <shashank> what is this all about
[13:50] <shashank> ples nyone tell me
[13:50] <Eretzvaju> hmm
[13:50] <OerHeks> shashank, time to read the topic?
[13:50] <OerHeks> !topic
[13:51] <dami0> don't bother, shashank is some kind of a bot
[13:51] <shashank> no yaar m not a bot
[13:52] <Jakey3> what is dh1024.pem used for?
[13:52] <k1l> encryption
[13:53] <dami0> k1l: thanks. i'm basically trying to respin my own iso, but the best i found is to force any packages i want to be dependancies of some core package
[13:53] <shashank> what is django-oscar used for
[13:53] <shashank> ?
[13:53] <minitrue> exit
[13:53] <Vacuum_> teknoprep:  no mode set worked (it was in f6 options). Thanks!!
[13:54] <Jakey3> k1l, what exactly in the encrytion process
[13:55] <shashank> enryption used to hide messeges
[13:55] <OerHeks> Jaroot certificate, see https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/certificates-and-security.html#certificate-authority
[13:55] <shashank> there is secret key in encryption
[13:55] <OerHeks> err Jakey3 ^^
[13:56] <OerHeks> please, shashank, don't spread fud
[13:56] <OerHeks> actually you are trolling this channel
[13:56] <shashank> no brother
[13:57] <Dreaman> k1l пак си наежен :)
[13:57] <Jakey3> OerHeks, so what  dh1024.pem file used for
[13:57] <Jakey3> in simple terms
[13:58] <OerHeks> i cannot make it simpler thatn k1ls answer: encryption.
[13:59] <OerHeks> and if you want to make your own distro, good luck
[13:59] <Jakey3> ok a deeper than that
[13:59] <Jakey3> i dont
[13:59] <OerHeks> jackhum, deeper? read that page, pretty awesome info
[13:59] <Jakey3> ok
[14:00] <OerHeks> oh misread, dami0 is brewing an iso.
[14:00] <aiyaiyai> k1l: I'm giving up for now, thanks for helping
[14:00] <aiyaiyai> over n out
[14:00] <k1l> Jakey3: i guess you dont really want it explained deeper but here you are: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2631.txt
[14:00] <stonefist> hi
[14:01] <Jakey3> k1l, thanks, i get its about exchanging keys in a secure manner
[14:02] <stonefist> does anyone have a problem with sound for xubuntu 16.04?
[14:02] <ioria> ioria1972
[14:02] <stonefist> because i am currently running 14.04 xubuntu LTS
[14:02] <hateball> stonefist: One would assume that you do, so you could give us some details
[14:03] <stonefist> i am getting sound through the headphones but not through the computer speakers
[14:03] <stonefist> the built in speakers
[14:06] <wabbits> stonefist are you proficient with pavucontrol?
[14:11] <kip> hey lisapike
[14:14] <stonefist> no
[14:15] <stonefist> no @ wabbits
[14:15] <stonefist> but can u tell me about it
[14:15] <wabbits> pavucontrol stands for pulseaudio volume control
[14:16] <stonefist> ok
[14:16] <wabbits> when an application plays audio an entry shows up on the playback tap
[14:16] <stonefist> can u use terminal to get into it
[14:17] <wabbits> yes
[14:17] <wabbits> `pavucontrol`
[14:19] <stonefist> ok i will try it and see. i am hesitant to upgrade to 16.04
[14:19] <wabbits> stonefist have a look at the currently playing audio on the playback tab. notice that on the right side of the tab you can choose the output device
[14:19] <Jakey3> what does echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[14:20] <wabbits> stonefist let me know if this solves your problem
[14:20] <Jakey3> it pus a 1 in the ip_forward
[14:20] <stonefist> ok thanks
[14:29] <tjj> What can I use to share my screen with someone using a mac, without allowing them to control my keyboard/mouse? We're both behind a NAT - is there something that can work around that?
[14:30] <_0xbadc0de> http://puu.sh/r8GGq/9226102dd6.png
[14:30] <_0xbadc0de> help?
[14:30] <_0xbadc0de> I cant restart
[14:31] <Dreaman> sudo reboot
[14:31] <tdannecy> tjj: I know it's not free, but Chrome Remote Desktop always works perfectly for me.
[14:31] <lapion> Whatever happened to the changelogs for updates and installs in synaptic ?
[14:31] <tjj> @tdannecy Thanks I'll check that out
[14:32] <EriC^^> _0xbadc0de: try sudo service networking restart
[14:32] <daemon55> does anybody know a good epub reader?
[14:32] <tdannecy> daemon55: calibre is great.
[14:33] <punkoivan> calibre+
[14:33] <daemon55> punkovia i already tried that its not that great it doesnt scroll line to line
[14:34] <tdannecy> daemon55: I think there's a way to change that in the settings.
[14:34] <daemon55> i tried that even with the recent version still nothing
[14:36] <stonefist> ok
[14:37] <_0xbadc0de> EriC^^: Failed to restart network.service: Unit network.service not found.
[14:37] <EriC^^> _0xbadc0de: that's odd
[14:37] <stonefist> it could be a bug in the os
[14:37] <EriC^^> _0xbadc0de: wait, did you write network restart or networking restart?
[14:38] <WiteStar2> hi all
[14:38] <WiteStar2> when i boot UBUNTU on my cell machines the screen goes BLACK untill its fully loaded.  what could be causing this?
[14:38] <WiteStar2> (Dell machiens..)
[14:40] <atralheaven> I get this error when I want to mount my external hard drive: "http://www.hastebin.com/raw/puloxahuqo" , I know its because it wasn't unmounted on windows, but I don't have windows now! is there any way to fix that inside linux?
[14:40] <Jakey3> can some explain these ufw rules to me http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23169494/
[14:41] <nicanaca0> hey chat, i've tried doing a bit of research myself and it seems what I want just may not be possible ... Can you disable the "copy text when text highlighted/selected" as it's driving me crazy?
[14:41] <_0xbadc0de> EriC^^: http://puu.sh/r8Hfm/2a10adb065.png
[14:41] <_0xbadc0de> so that there are no doubts
[14:43] <lapion> atralheaven, "sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb3"
[14:43] <arca_vorago> For remote mounting smb, would it better to use systemd units (create one) or autofs?
[14:46] <atralheaven> lapion: oh my god thanks! it was sdc5 btw :) I just didn't want to install windows again!
[14:46] <sharkman> is there a way to make an ubuntu computer turn on again automatically whenever it turns off? or any way to approximate this behavior? (assume it always has power)
[14:47] <lapion> sharkman, look in the bios .
[14:47] <nicanaca0> sharkman, that sort off stuff should be a bios setting, when power comes back the PC will try boot into whatever is set to be the main drive
[14:48] <lapion> either use a bios/eufi setting to do this, or enable wake-on-lan and have your modem router or any other system wake it up every minute or something
[14:49] <bswartz> guys, this may be a stupid question, but can I run xorg with monitors connected to 2 different video cards and have my desktop span both? in my case I have a i915 and a amdgpu and I can't get anything to display on the i915, even though x recognizes the card and the monitor
[14:49] <EriC^^> _0xbadc0de: exactly what i asked :)
[14:49] <Jakey3> what does :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [0:0] mean?
[14:49] <EriC^^> _0xbadc0de: try sudo service networking restart
[14:49] <EriC^^> (you typed network before :) )
[14:50] <lapion> sharkman, some systems have the possibility for the bios to be configured from linux and then you should be able to set a time of some minutes + shutdown time to power on again
[14:50] <EriC^^> sharkman: there's rtcwake
[14:51] <EriC^^> sharkman: like rtcwake -m mem -s 4
[14:51] <EriC^^> will suspend then wake up after 4 seconds
[14:53] <lapion> EriC^^, I think he wants the system to actually turn off and then on again.. a cold reboot in stead of a warm reboot
[14:53] <Jakey3> anyone
[14:54] <lapion> Jakey3, when and where does that text appear ?
[14:54] <EriC^^> lapion: sharkman try with rtcwake -m off -s 4
[14:54] <ouroumov> EriC^^, I'd like to request a PM if you've got a minute, it won't take long. :x
[14:54] <EriC^^> according to the man page it should turn the pc fully off, never tried it though, just the suspend option
[14:54] <EriC^^> ouroumov: ok
[14:56] <Jakey3> lapion, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-14-04
[14:56] <teknoprep> hi all.. trying to remove freerdp
[14:56] <teknoprep> Virtual packages like 'freerdp' can't be removed
[14:56] <teknoprep> how do i remove it when i get this
[14:57] <Jakey3> lapion, or https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/firewall.html
[14:58] <sharkman> thanks for respones
[14:59] <ilmaisin> does anyone else have problems with cups web ui crashing often?
[15:00] <lapion> sorry Jakey3 I have no experience setting up a firewall for openvpn
[15:00] <Jakey3> lapion, np
[15:00] <skinux> Anyone know how to convert a DVD ISO file to a playable MP4 or another format that VLC can play?
[15:01] <usil> hello. is there any other files were can I find official ubuntu pkgs. than /var/lib/apt/lists
[15:02] <EriC^^> usil: what are you trying to do?
[15:03] <usil> let say I like to manually check if installed pkg is official
[15:03] <usil> wihtout using aptitude
[15:03] <EriC^^> usil: apt-cache policy <package>
[15:03] <usil> EriC^^: without using anz other programs
[15:04] <olscumpy> I did it. I managed to lag ubuntu to a near standstill. many programs, many tabs... how can I check whether firefox, gimp, or something else is the primary culprit?
[15:04] <usil> EriC^^: in
[15:05] <EriC^^> usil: why do you want not to use the ..../apt/lists ?
[15:05] <usil> EriC^^:  in
[15:05] <usil> /var/lib/dpkg
[15:05] <usil> /var/lib/dpkg/status are all istalled pgks
[15:05] <usil> I like to know which pkgs is official
[15:06] <usil> there is a Maintainer field, but thic can be set to random
[15:06] <punkoivan> what do you mean "off"
[15:06] <punkoivan> ?
[15:07] <usil> ??
[15:07] <Guest20266> why not use aptitude?
[15:07] <Guest20266> or apt, or synaptic or any other tool
[15:07] <usil> I kwno I can use aptitude
[15:08] <Guest20266> yes, but why don't you use it
[15:08] <usil> but I like know if there is any other way
[15:08] <EriC^^> usil: apt-cache policy is on all ubuntu systems
[15:08] <usil> I can parse  files in /var/lib/apt/lists
[15:10] <usil> EriC^^: yes, but if I want to check for n pkgs, I need to call apt-cache n times
[15:10] <usil> I like to know is there any file where can I find all avalible pkgs for ubuntu release
[15:11] <aria> hi
[15:12] <usil> EriC^^: where apt-cache get infos
[15:12] <EriC^^> usil: strace it
[15:12] <tgm4883> usil: what is your end goal here
[15:13] <Guest20266> you can do the same in synaptic clicking two buttons
[15:13] <usil> tgm4883: here I can find all official pkgs. fo release wily
[15:13] <usil> http://packages.ubuntu.com/uk/wily/allpackages?format=txt.gz
[15:14] <usil> is there that kind of file somewhere on ubuntu system
[15:14] <joelio> wily is not in support
[15:14] <dStruct> hey all, is there a best practice way to integrate data from a text file into syslog.  I'm trying to take a log file that is dumped out of an application and have syslog create a /var/log/my_app log file
[15:15] <Guest20266> /var/lib/apt/lists
[15:15] <tgm4883> usil: but why can't you use the methods already provided such at apt ?
[15:15] <Guest20266> but why?
[15:15] <dumle29> Any non sucky printer managers?
[15:16] <EriC^^> usil: download the packages list from online
[15:16] <joelio> dStruct: what application something written in-house?
[15:16] <EriC^^> tgm4883: he doesn't want to iterate it many times
[15:16] <usil> so this only posible way
[15:16] <tgm4883> dumle29: the printers dialog in the control centre doesn't suck
[15:16] <dumle29> It's pretty bad in my experience
[15:16] <tgm4883> EriC^^: That's not a reason. I asked for a reason
[15:17] <EriC^^> tgm4883: not sure what you mean
[15:17] <dumle29> I for example had to use the cups webinterface to add my unis smb printer
[15:17] <dStruct> joelio: yes, I have a kermit script grabbing serial printer input from a mainframe port, and dumping it to text file, however ideally I want it to pass thru syslog subject to archival such as something.log.0.gz 1.gz etc
[15:17] <tgm4883> dumle29: well maybe you should state what the problem is instead of asking subjective questions.
[15:17] <dumle29> And now I'm at it again :/
[15:17] <tgm4883> dumle29: well there's another. Cups doesn't suck
[15:18] <dumle29> tgm4883: Cups is great, but the stock printer manager just wants to use an ip, and then doesn't allow me to set anything
[15:18] <dumle29> oh right, I'm on ubuntu gnome, I don't know if that changes things
[15:19] <joe4> anyone ever have an issue where you are unable to ping machines by their hostnames? i have this issue at home and at work. i am thinking it has something to do with dnsmasq. i just don't know much about dnsmasq
[15:20] <dStruct> joelio: I should also point out, the output of said script doesn't necessarily need to dump to text file, it could output anywhere like stdout and pipe into syslog somehow
[15:20] <dumle29> tgm4883: So at the moment, I have to install the SMB printers, by adding the full URI, with username and password in it
[15:20] <dumle29> that is, password in clear text :/
[15:21] <joelio> dStruct: I've used this for console logging fwiw - https://github.com/raowen/conlog
[15:22] <dStruct> joelio: hey thanks, i'll take a look
[15:24] <joelio> dStruct: supervisord can handle logs from std{out,err} very well - I'd take a look - plus you get init service handling for free ;) http://supervisord.org/logging.html
[15:24] <joelio> and a nice shiny web interface for those that want it
[15:25] <joelio> (it's disabled by default for those that don't...)
[15:25] <dStruct> joelio: lol, that sounds like what I'm looking for, thanks for the info
[15:27] <dStruct> joelio: this mainframe was literally logging to a line printer via LPT port, I redirected the output to a new serial port and connected it up to a serial console server, poof instant profit
[15:29] <b100s> hi2all! my tmpfs became 1Mb. what can be reason?
[15:29] <joelio> dStruct: easy wins are always satisfying :)
[15:29] <b100s> fir sure i didnt change it by hand
[15:29] <b100s> ubuntu 14.04. may it come with update?
[15:30] <posi> any way to find . | xargs .. | cpio -vpdum ... In a way that actually has multiple cpio going on at the same time behind the hood
[15:30] <dStruct> joelio: oh it wasn't that easy, trying to rebuild a "sysgen" on a kernel-less system just to add a serial port, with 10 books of very crappy documentation took a quite a while
[15:32] <joelio> dStruct: fun though?
[15:32] <joelio> posi: gnu parallel
[15:32] <posi> joelio: maybe a bit more help
[15:33] <joelio> posi: gnu parallel is a tool for running task in parallel, that can be fed from a pipe or something.
[15:33] <posi> i am aware
[15:33] <posi> i have used it
[15:33] <posi> but that's pretty tricky to use in a find . | cpio ?
[15:33] <posi> i'm also dumb
[15:33] <joelio> why is it trick?
[15:33] <posi> hmm
[15:34] <posi> actually maybe i already figured it out
[15:34] <posi> lol
[15:34] <joelio> posi: "parallel echo Job {#} of {= '$_=total_jobs()' =} ::: {1..5}"
[15:34] <joelio> is the kind of syntax it uses
[15:35] <dStruct> joelio: a blast, this mainframe runs the very first 32-bit parallel hard real-time OS, over 15k I/Os.  For a full motion flight simulator built in 1972 :D
[15:38] <joelio> dStruct: now that's something worthwhile :)
[15:38] <WiteStar2> hi all
[15:39] <WiteStar2> " Seat seat0: Failed to find session configuration ubuntu
[15:39] <WiteStar2> " how do i fix this?
[15:39] <dStruct> joelio: very much so, this device is actively certified by the FAA, and is used for training/maneuvers
[15:40] <joelio> dStruct: cool, well keep me informed if you get it rolling with supervisor :)
[15:40] <dStruct> joelio: I will, thanks for the help
[15:41] <pasquale> il padrino
[15:41] <joelio> dStruct: np, anytime
[15:42] <posi> joelio: i still only see one cpio running
[15:42] <wabbits> when I switch inputs on my tv away from my pc. the pc can no longer display to the tv when I switch back. Is there a way to stop this from happening?
[15:42] <wabbits> interface is hdmi
[15:42] <posi> ls $BUCKET | (cd $BUCKET &&  parallel find . | cpio -vpdum $DST ) (ls $BUCKET should always be 16)
[15:50] <joelio> posi: check this out - it's similar to what you're trying to achive and I know it works (I did it) http://blog.widodh.nl/2016/08/chown-ceph-osd-data-directory-using-gnu-parallel/
[15:51] <sappel> hello everyone. I got a vserver running ubuntu and since 2 weeks I have weird performance drops. Websites take way to long loading, mailserver is slow etc. I can't recall having changed anything important, but I'm trying to narrow possible reason down since days now
[15:51] <sappel> anyone got an idea how to track things down?
[15:52] <joelio> sappel: check process, logs, iostat any other metrics
[15:53] <ilmaisin> sappel: could it be possible that your provider throttles your vps after high resource consumption?
[15:54] <sappel> top gives me low cpu + ram usage, that shouldn't be the issue
[15:54] <sappel> ilmaisin, no throtteling
[15:54] <ilmaisin> ok
[15:55] <eset> Hey, I want to ask if there any requirements for making partitions? I don't if I'm making a mistake or is it the fault of xen, don't know. I'm creating a vm server on ubuntu+xen hypervisor. For disk I used img files created using dd . When I boot vm and the iso launched with system settings And I set everything it fails when I wan't to create partitions
[15:55] <eset> I don't know*
[15:55] <sappel> I'll check io first
[15:55] <blinkblink> Hi. I am using TIlda, it boots with root login! how can I prevent it from doing this?
[16:01] <sappel> joelio, iotop shows barely any traffic, dd gives me good read + write performance, most memory is free, cpu is bored
[16:01] <sappel> but especially apache is reeeeaaaally slow
[16:05] <hariom> I have opvn file from my old openvpn configuration. I want to setup vpn connection again. Where should I keep this file? I have compiled and installed open vpn 2.3.4
[16:05] <joelio> sappel: dd wth directsync? (otherwise you'll be hitting fscache) - also, broken dns sometime slow stuff down..
[16:06] <joelio> hariom: why compile?
[16:06] <joelio> hariom: you'll need to maintain security updates yourself if you do that
[16:06] <joelio> hariom: packages are there for a reason :)
[16:07] <hariom> joelio: It was mentioned to use that specific version, not sure why. But I am following that. Do you know where to keep opvn file?
[16:08] <joelio> you put it in /etc/openvpn - but doing a manual install will miss of /etc/default/openvpn - which is where you specifiy which to load
[16:08] <joelio> hariom: if you're not sure why, then don't.. basically
[16:08] <joelio> hariom: use packaged versions
[16:08] <nacc> +1
[16:08] <hariom> joelio: you mean you don't know where to keep opvn file?
[16:08] <hariom> Just leave it if you don't know
[16:09] <joelio> hariom: ? did you read what I wrote
[16:09] <joelio> I'm trying to make this easier for you
[16:09] <hariom> I think I can try with --config
[16:09] <joelio> ok, do what you want
[16:10] <joelio> you're missing the point
[16:10]  * joelio uses openvpn and has modern cipher support only in it - using ubuntu provided packages
[16:13]  * dStruct loves OpenVPN, uses it all the time, even on my iPhone :D
[16:15] <joelio> drussell: +1
[16:15] <joelio> dStruct: +1
[16:16] <dStruct> it even roams over LTE for soft SIP connectivity :D
[16:18] <wabbits> what are the implications of removing lightdm from my ubuntu media pc?
[16:19] <joelio> wabbits: firstly what problem are you trying to solve?
[16:20] <wabbits> my media pc looses connection to the tv when I switch away from it.
[16:20] <wabbits> If I restart lightdm I get my display back
[16:20] <wabbits> also I have an overscan problem
[16:20] <joelio> lightdm is a login manager though, restarting lightdm is just killing your X session
[16:21] <wabbits> so you are saying that X is the problem?
[16:21] <joelio> wabbits: yea, lightdm is just a login manager
[16:22] <joelio> if you're in X and there's an issue with displays, when you restart lightdm, you're baiscally logging out and in again to X
[16:22] <wabbits> any idea how to fix either/both of my issues?
[16:23] <joelio> I'm not sure what you mean by 'When you switch away from it'
[16:23] <wabbits> the tv has multiple hdmi devices connected to it.
[16:23] <joelio> k, so when you change hdmi source on the tv?
[16:23] <wabbits> when I switch to my xbox and go back I can't see the display on the media pc anymore.
[16:23] <wabbits> joelio yes
[16:24] <joelio> and does it come back if you unlcuk and replug hdmi? OOI?
[16:24] <wabbits> no
[16:24] <joelio> *unplug
[16:24] <wabbits> but restarting lightdm makes it come back
[16:24] <joelio> that's interesting, what versions of ubuntu?
[16:24] <joelio> and waht desktop env?
[16:25] <joelio> it should come back if you unplug and replug - so chances are it's a driver issue
[16:25] <wabbits> its the open source radeon driver
[16:26] <joelio> ah, ok, so maybe that's something
[16:26] <joelio> I don't use radeon though, so can't give much info there
[16:27] <wabbits> for some reason the #radeon channel won't allow me to send "Cannot send to channel"
[16:28] <iamawesome> Which video player is suggested here for ubuntu?
[16:29] <EriC^^> iamawesome: vlc is pretty good
[16:29] <gofu> I have skype 4.3 linux in my ubuntu and i cant  call my friends i keep getting call failed or no answer !!
[16:29] <tdannecy> iamawesome: IIRC, totem is the default video player, but I use VLC.
[16:29] <wabbits> gofu can you place the test call?
[16:31] <DArqueBishop> gofu: you may want to try the Skype for Linux Alpha. https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299
[16:36] <squinty> gofu, http://www.softpedia.com/blog/microsoft-officially-releases-skype-1-7-for-linux-508199.shtml
[16:36] <gofu> wabbits ; no i can't place the test call either !!
[16:37] <wabbits> are you connected to the internet?
[16:38] <wabbits> if you are using the same machine then we might assume you are but hey you never know.
[16:38] <wabbits> gofu can you confirm that the machine is connected to the internet?
[16:38] <gofu> wabbits; yes i am connected to the internet !
[16:39] <wabbits> do you have any explicit rules on your firewall on your pc and/or your edge device?
[16:39] <gofu> wabbits; yes i can ping google and skype ..
[16:40] <gofu> wabbits:yes i have Gufw firewall !
[16:41] <wabbits> gofu do you have a natting firewall between your pc and the internet?
[16:41] <gofu> wabbits ; no
[16:42] <wabbits> that suprises me. Most people do have a nat/firewall edge device?
[16:42] <wabbits> are you sure?
[16:43] <EriC^^> gufw
[16:43] <gofu> wabbits ; am not sure what that is but i can use my other windows computer to make skype calls and they're both connected to the same network !
[16:43] <gofu> EriC^^: whats about it ?
[16:43] <EriC^^> nothing
[16:43] <EriC^^> :D
[16:44] <wabbits> yes but if there are explicit inbound or outbound rules edge router that could be a problem
[16:44] <wabbits> also the firewall on your own linux box could be the problem
[16:44] <DArqueBishop> gofu: like I said, try updating your PC to use the new alpha build and try again.
[16:44] <gofu> EriC^^: i will allow  all the incomming and outgoing s in Gufw , is it a good idea ?
[16:44] <EriC^^> gofu: sure why not
[16:45] <wabbits> he doesn't even know if he has a natting/firewall edge device so turning off his pc firewall isn't a great idea.
[16:46] <wabbits> gofu there is a difference between "no" and "I don't know"
[16:46] <EriC^^> oh no
[16:46] <EriC^^> xD
[16:46] <wabbits> good luck
[16:52] <murphy> how does apt know the package name of a file added to archives?
[16:53] <dStruct> murphy: magic
[16:54] <murphy> i like magic
[16:54] <murphy> do i need a wand?
[16:55] <dStruct> murphy: the short simple version is your /etc/apt.d/sources.list provides a list of packages for apt to "know" and you can apt-get install or apt-cache search them
[16:55] <dStruct> murphy: quite possibly
[16:55] <murphy> im referring more to a package i might have manually installed
[16:55] <murphy> maybe im asking the wrong question
[16:56] <murphy> if i downloaded a deb file
[16:56] <murphy> and copied it to archives
[16:56] <murphy> how does apt know what the package is called?
[16:56] <murphy> or doesnt it
[16:56] <dStruct> murphy: what do you mean by copied it to the archives?
[16:56] <murphy> and you have to use dpkg
[16:57] <dStruct> murphy: you should just be able to download the .deb and use dpkg -i I think is the cmd to install it
[16:57] <murphy> yeah i did that and it worked
[16:57] <nacc> "might have manually installed"? either you did or didn't.
[16:57] <cetabio> Hi got a server where main partition /dev/root        20G   17G  1,6G  92% / is full because of database size growth
[16:57] <murphy> im just curious as to how the name for this gets set
[16:57] <dStruct> murphy: that will manually install whatever .deb you downloaded, completely separate from anything apt is doing, and will not be updated by apt
[16:58] <_0xbadc0de> whats the difference between PREROUTING/POSTROUTING/OUTPUT and INPUT/OUTPUT/FORWARD iptables chain rules
[16:58] <murphy> because after that you can do apt remove package right?
[16:58] <dStruct> murphy: well it should be something to the effect of dpkg -i <filename> so no package name involved
[16:58] <cetabio> Do I need to reinstall ubuntu to give / more space¿
[16:58] <ren0v0> Hi, does anyone here know if there is an app where i can manage photos, specifically RAW+JPEG pairs, that can be grouped by the software and the ability to only delete RAW from the set? I've tried darktable, rawtherapee, shotwell with no luck :(
[16:58] <cetabio> making partitions from scratch on install or I can do it without reinstall?
[16:59] <dStruct> _0xbadc0de: the chain your rules are in depends on when they're applied to the packets, for example pre-NAT or post-NAT, if you reference a public IP after it's been NAT'd in your post rules the rule wont work etc etc
[16:59] <Jordan_U> murphy: It's a field in the Control file within the archive. (A .deb file is an ar archive containing many files).
[16:59] <nacc> murphy: if the .deb was well defined, the package name should be reflected in the .deb's name
[16:59] <murphy> cetabio, i think you should be able to boot from another system like a usb drive and use gparted to resize it
[16:59] <cetabio> murphy its a server so only acces is terminal ssh
[16:59] <nacc> murphy: but as Jordan_U said, the way apt/dpkg konw the name is metadata in the control file
[17:00] <_0xbadc0de> dStruct: I know what is a rule of type input ouput and forwarding
[17:00] <murphy> gotcha
[17:00] <Jordan_U> murphy: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkg_basics.en.html
[17:00] <_0xbadc0de> but in other guides it shows up as POSTROUTING / PREROUTING / OUTPUT
[17:00] <_0xbadc0de> ot those the same?
[17:00] <murphy> i know its a trivial thing but for some reason i was wondering how
[17:01] <gadgix> ren0v0: there's lightzone which is a bit like darktable but like you i couldn't get on with them
[17:02] <dStruct> _0xbadc0de: it really depends on what version of iptables you're running, and how it's installed.  For example the latest Ubuntu with IPTABLES + UFW has only INPUT, OUTPUT, and FORWARD, but technically you can add other chains if you choose to
[17:02] <murphy> i guess it was because there was a guide online that said you can copy the .deb to /var/cache/apt/archives and so apt-get install package_name
[17:02] <nacc> murphy: that guide is wrong and should not be used (imo)
[17:03] <murphy> ive always just done dpkg -i package.deb and it always worked
[17:03] <murphy> nacc, it seems so.. because i tried it and it didnt work lol
[17:03] <nacc> murphy: while that approache (mucking with /var/cache/apt) may work, it is not encouraged in any way
[17:03] <_0xbadc0de> dStruct: but those other chains? POSTROUTING/PREROUTING
[17:03] <_0xbadc0de> are those the same?
[17:03] <murphy> yeah stupid stackechange! :-p
[17:04] <cetabio> murphy Myabe thats stupid, but I ever dealed with partitioning and so in ubuntu
[17:04] <dStruct> _0xbadc0de: no, POSTROUTING happens after packets have been routed, hence the name, PRE is the opposite happening before things are routed.
[17:04] <cetabio> could I unmount the /dev/sda3 part mounted on /home
[17:04] <moktar> hello
[17:04] <cetabio> and mount it also on / or add that space to /
[17:04] <nacc> _0xbadc0de: did you look at `man iptables`?
[17:06] <EriC^^> cetabio: you can mount it on /usr
[17:06] <EriC^^> cetabio: or delete /home and add it to "/" using a live usb
[17:06] <cetabio> only terminal access ssh its a server
[17:07] <cetabio> could a symblink also do the job?
[17:07] <cetabio> The problem I have is the database is Big about 600gb or so
[17:07] <EriC^^> i guess
[17:08] <murphy> can you add some external storage and just move the DB there?
[17:08] <adamc> questions about fuseblk (ntfs partitions) I have 3 hard drives that are on USB mount what is the FSTAB rules on auto mounting the drives to a specific Folder because now I rebooted the PC at work here and can't access my home server.
[17:09] <EriC^^> !fstab
[17:09] <dStruct> _0xbadc0de: in most cases inbound packets will hit the prerouting chain first, then depending on if they're delivered locally or not they'll go thru the output chain, and everthing will funnel into the postrouting chain, and then out to the machine/network
[17:09] <akik> adamc: just define the uuid of the ntfs partition and the usual fstab syntax applies
[17:09] <adamc> ?
[17:09] <adamc> wold that not be /dev/sdc#?
[17:09] <akik> adamc: use sudo blkid to see them
[17:10] <adamc> akik, I will when I get home right now can't ssh to the box due to it being stuck on boot thanks to malformed fstab.
[17:11] <Guest82376> whois gtrs
[17:11] <dStruct> adamc: the question should be, how do I keep my multiple USB drives the same after each reboot..  USB devices are detected as asyncronous, meaning /dev/sdc and /dev/sdd, etc may not always detect after a reboot in that order, sdc could be sdd and vice versa
[17:11] <adamc> ah k
[17:11] <adamc> so best to manually mount then??
[17:11] <akik> adamc: just use the uuid in fstab and you're ok
[17:12] <adamc> akik will do
[17:12] <dStruct> adamc: so if you spend a chunk of time building a pretty FSTAB and reboot, your usb devices may detect in a different order.  Unless you boot without them connected and then connect them in the order expected
[17:12] <adamc> <---hates external drives lol
[17:12]  * dStruct hates usb to serial adapters that change on each bootup :D
[17:12] <cetabio> murphy yeap probbly easier to just move postgresql to other part
[17:13] <cetabio> someone know how to do so?
[17:13] <Jordan_U> dStruct: That's why you use UUIDs rather than static device names. You should almost never use a static device name like sda1 in any configuration file.
[17:13] <dStruct> Jordan_U: I was not aware of that ability, I come from a land before linux :D
[17:13] <dror> hellp
[17:20] <andrewpo> hello
[17:20] <andrewpo>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER andrew_pom idhnvzmuzemi
[17:21] <dStruct> um... you probably want to change your password now :D
[17:21] <murphy> lol
[17:21] <Jordan_U> andrewpo: Change your password.
[17:21] <sjoshi> andrewpo: your passwors is known to all in this room, pelase chnage it
[17:21] <murphy> thats my biggest fear doing that
[17:21] <sjoshi> yeah!
[17:21] <murphy> thats why i only do it in the server window
[17:21] <dax> that's a verification token, not a password
[17:22] <dax> they're single-use and not particularly secret
[17:22] <Surendil> murphy, that's why you shoul always use /notice tab to do that
[17:22] <dStruct> dax: or it was the worlds most professional troll lol
[17:22] <murphy> its like the fear as forgetting to put your shorts on during PE and running out in your underware
[17:22] <dax> andrewpo: run /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER andrew_pom idhnvzmuzemi again without the space in front
[17:22] <dStruct> murphy: uhh, I can't say that I have ever done that one..
[17:23] <murphy> me neither but i was so worried about doing it
[17:23] <dax> dStruct: nope, actual user. people get confused because the email has a space in front of the command for some stupid reason
[17:23] <murphy> seen it happen a few times though
[17:23] <D-Rull> clear
[17:23] <murphy> funny as hell but felt REAL:LY bad for the kid
[17:32] <sobersabre> hi. Is it possible to set overcommit memory settings for specific scope of processes or per user or per exec path?
[17:32] <sobersabre> sysctl stuff :-|
[17:34] <OerHeks> sobersabre, fancy question
[17:34] <nacc> sobersabre: i believe the closest you'd get is cgroups? or perhaps you could specify it to a lxc/lxd container and run stuff in there?
[17:36] <LTCD> Hi I'm running Ubuntu Server. How do I go about updating Tor (for my hidden service) and Tomcat? I want to stick with my Tomcat version, but install any patches.
[17:39] <nacc> LTCD: "my tomcat version"? are you not using the Ubuntu package?
[17:40] <LTCD> nacc I set it up ages ago, however I think I used wget and installed manually.
[17:41] <nacc> LTCD: not sure i understand how you intend to "update...Tomcat" and "stick with [a specific] Tomcat version"?
[17:42] <LTCD> nacc I mean install patches.
[17:42] <dStruct> LTCD: you could update just tor and leave tomcat alone?
[17:42] <LTCD> nacc I might still use Windows Vista not 10, I can install patches without upgrading to Windows 10...
[17:42] <LTCD> dStruct They both need upgrades.
[17:43] <dStruct> LTCD: is there a problem with updating both?
[17:43] <LTCD> dStruct I don't know how to.
[17:43] <LTCD> dStruct I didn't use Ubuntu to install them, I got them from their websites.
[17:43] <dStruct> LTCD: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?
[17:43] <dStruct> LTCD: ahh then that command won't update them
[17:44] <LTCD> Yep I did those dStruct, however I don't think that command will update them. I mean is there a way of checking/
[17:44] <dStruct> LTCD: if you manually installed them you'll have to manually update them as well
[17:44] <dStruct> LTCD: if you didn't install them with apt-get then they will not update
[17:44] <nacc> LTCD: it's outside of ubuntu support (imo) to support upgrading from source stuff
[17:45] <nacc> LTCD: you should update them the way you installed them the first time, I guess
[17:45] <LTCD> Is there a way of checking if I installed them manually or not?
[17:45] <dStruct> LTCD: what nacc said, or just remove them both, save their configs, and apt-get install them and insert your configs
[17:45] <nacc> LTCD: you just said you "got them from their websites"?
[17:45] <LTCD> nacc I might be wrong as this was a while ag.
[17:46] <sulfasal> mpv crashes when playing video. Says 'Segmentation fault(core dumped)
[17:46] <sulfasal> where do I find this 'dump'?
[17:47] <murphy> try dmesg
[17:47] <dStruct> LTCD: dpkg --get-selections will list all installed packages, maybe add a | grep -i tom or tomcat and/or tor to search the list as it's long
[17:48] <LTCD> nacc dStruct Thank you. While we are talking is there an easy to use Deepfreeze for Ubuntu Server?
[17:48] <dStruct> LTCD: I don't even know what that is
[17:49] <LTCD> dStruct When you shutdown/restart everything changed is deleted. Like an internet cafe.
[17:49] <nacc> http://askubuntu.com/questions/637587/how-to-deepfreeze-ubuntu-like-windows-deepfreeze
[17:49] <nacc> LTCD: which is a dupe of http://askubuntu.com/questions/349678/is-there-any-deep-freeze-like-application-for-ubuntu
[17:50] <nacc> LTCD: deepfreeze is a windows-only thing, afaict, though (so you'd need to find an alternative as suggested in both questions)
[17:51] <dStruct> LTCD: there are lots of options for something like that, one of which is LTSP which does remote diskless booting of Ubuntu for example, and you can wipe sessions on logout
[17:53] <riqj> hello everyone, I'd like to create an encrypted partition with gparted, but can't find this option. is there none?
[17:53] <dStruct> LTCD: have you seen the Guest login on Ubuntu, it works that way I believe?  to a degree at least
[17:53] <LTCD> dStruct nacc Okay thanks.
[18:03] <DavidOwski> hey guys I've set up a rTorrent with ruTorrent on Ubuntu and creating a torrent from 25GBs of files took me 3-4 hours
[18:04] <cetabio> is mysql broken?
[18:04] <cscf> cetabio, in general?  I doubt it.  Yours might be.
[18:05] <cscf> DavidOwski, is there a question?
[18:05] <cetabio> mean apt-get mysql-server
[18:05] <cetabio> update-alternatives: using /etc/mysql/mysql.cnf to provide /etc/mysql/my.cnf (my.cnf) in auto mode Renaming removed key_buffer and myisam-recover options (if present)
[18:05] <cetabio> stoped there :S
[18:05] <DavidOwski> Why that much?
[18:05] <cetabio> I restoed my system form backup
[18:05] <cetabio> and same issue
[18:05] <dStruct> DavidOwski: get a faster computer and or disk?
[18:06] <DavidOwski> I have 1x1.90GHz processor and 1TB disk SATA
[18:06] <cscf> DavidOwski: Generating metadata and hashes for each 4MB? block over 25GBs takes time.
[18:06] <DavidOwski> I set 16MB piece size
[18:07] <cscf> DavidOwski, well, that explains it then.  You probably had 100% cpu usage.
[18:07] <cetabio> any idea?
[18:07] <DavidOwski> that's what it shows in ruTorrent
[18:07] <DavidOwski> 100%
[18:08] <DavidOwski> so I'll get myself something faster
[18:08] <cscf> DavidOwski, and why is it surprising that hashing 25GB of data takes time on a 1.9Ghz CPU?
[18:08] <sacarde> hi
[18:08] <catbadger> hi
[18:08] <DavidOwski> cscf: I thought it won't take so long
[18:09] <cetabio> cscf Im restoring back my system
[18:09] <cetabio> any idea to fix that issue?
[18:09] <cetabio> apt-get stop at that line
[18:09] <cscf> !patience | cetabio
[18:10] <sacarde> what suggest me about undervolt (phc?) in ubuntu ?
[18:10] <cetabio> cscf I just dont get how system can break in that way with just using apt-get install a so popular package
[18:11] <cscf> cetabio, so after this runs, mysql isn't installed?
[18:11] <cetabio> it doesnt stop
[18:11] <cetabio> even if I do ctrl+c
[18:12] <cscf> cetabio, oh.  ok, well, run 'top' or 'htop' in another terminal and see if it's still doing anything.
[18:12] <cetabio> i have to exit the session and then sourcelist seems to be corupted and any comand of apt-get will try to install mysql giving me error
[18:12] <cetabio> ok
[18:12] <cscf> cetabio, if you interrupt apt, it will try to finish & cleanup when you run it again, yes
[18:14] <logical> hi, is it possible to set rhythmbox to reapeat one song?
[18:16] <logical> i love you all #shareUbuntuLove
[18:17] <cscf> logical, there's a repeat button at the top bar.
[18:17] <logical> it repeats the playlist but how to reapeat one song
[18:18] <cscf> logical, I don't have music here to test, cant you rightclick on the song?
[18:19] <logical> nah the only logic is to search for the song and he will only play the one searched for
[18:20] <cetabio> cscf im not sure if it still runing
[18:20] <cetabio> there is a process that appear and dissapear
[18:20] <cetabio> apt-get and another mysql
[18:21] <mpo42vr_> Which driver would I need for this wifi card? TP-LINK Archer T8E
[18:21] <mpo42vr_> I can't find its chipset
[18:22] <leeyaa> hello
[18:22] <leeyaa> how does the motd work on ubuntu? is it per user per ip basis or something?
[18:22] <leeyaa> cause i was able to see it twice for the same user
[18:22] <leeyaa> but i logged from a different ips
[18:22] <leeyaa> second login does not show it
[18:25] <th0r> mpo42vr_, couldn't have tried too hard...https://wikidevi.com/wiki/TP-LINK_Archer_T8E
[18:25] <leeyaa> i mean how does it decide when to show motd and when not ?
[18:25] <leeyaa> the default one that is
[18:26] <acovrig> How would I create a bootable USB of ubuntu (mini); I’ve used unetbootin in the past, but everyone I’ve talked to recently says I shouldn’t use unetbootin (I’m on a mac)
[18:26] <Surendil> acovrig, use dd
[18:26] <acovrig> Surendil: dd the mini.iso to the USB drive?
[18:27] <cetabio> it still at same point
[18:27] <acovrig> Surendil: if so, dd to /dev/drive or /dev/partition?
[18:28] <Surendil> acovrig,  dd if=/where_the_iso_is of=/usb_mount_point bs=4MB; sync
[18:29] <Surendil> acovrig, example: dd if=/home/shin/Downloads/iso/debian-live-8.5.0-amd64-xfce-desktop.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M; sync
[18:29] <acovrig> Surendil: I’ll try that; I’ve also heard not to dd an iso, but we’ll see if it works
[18:30] <akik> acovrig: dd works for the ubuntu isos
[18:31] <Surendil> akik, i used dd to try kali, debian, fedora, gentoo, worked on all of them
[18:31] <leeyaa> anyone? :P
[18:31] <akik> well i just thought that as this is #ubuntu
[18:32] <plox> hello everyone, I needed a swap partition on my disk, and I created it via gparted, as a linux-swap partition. is it the same thing as that one creates during the installation?
[18:32] <akik> plox: yes
[18:33] <akik> plox: run mkswap on it
[18:33] <plox> ah, thank you akik. how do I run it?
[18:33] <Surendil> plox, it's the same, but you also have to add the partition to fstab
[18:33] <akik> plox: sudo mkswap /dev/sdxn
[18:33] <veep> looking for my-weather-indicator.  Can't find the executable.  trying to add to startup items.  I've "find ~ -name "my-weather*" but the only things that come up are in the .config directories
[18:33] <plox> Surendil, how do I add it? do I need to do it after running mkswap?
[18:33] <veep> when I press the super key it comes up when I search for it, but of coarse when you right click on it, doesn't show the path
[18:35] <Surendil> plox, after
[18:35] <acovrig> Surendil: didn’t work: the BIOS doesn’t see it as a boot device
[18:36] <plox> akik, swap set up, thank you very much!
[18:36] <plox> Surendil, what do I need to do to add it to fstab?
[18:37] <Surendil> plox, UUID=xxx none swap sw 0 0
[18:39] <DavidOwski> what does it mean that HDD is: Ent.HDD
[18:39] <cetabio> Any idea what may cause a mysql isntall 5.7 on 16.04 to stop at this point
[18:39] <cetabio>   update-alternatives: using /etc/mysql/mysql.cnf to provide /etc/mysql/my.cnf (my.cnf) in auto mode Renaming removed key_buffer and myisam-recover options (if present)
[18:40] <cetabio> once that point it reached it stop there for ever already been 20min+
[18:40] <acovrig> Surendil: unetbootin will make a bootable drive, but it seems that in ubuntu 16 something happens to the installer, so it tends to fail partway through
[18:40] <plox> Surendil, I don't know where I enter these. and mkswap already shows me an UUID value
[18:40] <Surendil> cetabio, have you checked the mysql error log?
[18:40] <cetabio> its not installed
[18:41] <cetabio> I want to install it but after asking for root password and so it freze at that line
[18:41] <Surendil> acovrig, i have the same problem with unetbooting, crashed all the time, but dd worked just fine!
[18:42] <Surendil> plox, you have to add that line to your fstab file, changing de UUID with the one you have
[18:43] <plox> ah, ok, where would I find the fstab file=?
[18:43] <Surendil> cetabio, wait, did you install mysql already o you want to install it? if you are trying to start mysql, first you have to configure my.cnf file
[18:43] <Surendil> plox, /etc/fstab
[18:43] <cetabio> Surendil want to install it
[18:44] <cetabio> update-alternatives: using /etc/mysql/mysql.cnf to provide /etc/mysql/my.cnf (my.cnf) in auto mode Renaming removed key_buffer and myisam-recover options (if present) thats the last line I see
[18:44] <Surendil> cetabio, apt-get install mysql -y
[18:44] <cetabio> ok will try that
[18:45] <Surendil> cetabio, apt-get install mysql-server
[18:45] <cetabio> yy
[18:45] <cetabio> but seems same behavoir
[18:45] <plox> there are two lines that tell me where the swap was during installation. I guess one of them is correct. I replace the value with the one in the mkswap output
[18:46] <Adit> Hi. I copied a folder from one drive to another and I want to see whether the new folder is the same. I tried diff -r -q but it is taking too much time. Its there an alternative?
[18:46] <Adit> Is*
[18:47] <cetabio> Surendil -y have same result
[18:47] <cetabio> stucked at update-alternatives: using /etc/mysql/mysql.cnf to provide /etc/mysql/my.cnf (my.cnf) in auto mode Renaming removed key_buffer and myisam-recover options (if present) already
[18:47] <plox> is it really correct to enter the new value under the line that refers to the swap at the installation?
[18:47] <plox>  can I just skip this if it is not too important?
[18:48] <acovrig> Surendil: yea, but the BIOS doesn’t see it if I dd it, so I’m trying unetbootin again
[18:48] <AmazeCPK> I installed ubuntu on a VM, and am using MetaCity window manager. Is there a way to run seamless mode across my 3 monit
[18:48] <AmazeCPK> my 3 monitors*?
[18:50] <Surendil> cetabio, hhhmm....try apt-get install -f
[18:50] <cetabio> Surendil just restoring sysmte once again
[18:51] <cetabio> ty of gods ints an vps
[18:51] <cetabio> and I can restore from snapshot
[18:51] <plox> ok, anyway, thank you very much Surendil, akik..have a good week!
[18:54] <freezemaster> help
[18:54] <cetabio> Surendil im gonna try installing maria-db
[18:55] <TheLawyer> I don't know how to fix this heating problem on laptop wiht xenial installation! it works fine when running windows 7
[18:55] <Surendil> cetabio, go for it
[18:58] <Estr> I cannot connect to wifi on Ubuntu for some reason, works fine on window, any ideas?
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> TheLawyer  i have that too, there's a thermald bug ... still, install indicator-cpu-freq and psensors
[18:59] <cetabio> Surendil it worked
[18:59] <cetabio> installed in 30s
[19:00] <Surendil> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aEnZGPp_460s.jpg - Happy Proggrammers Day!
[19:00] <Polarcraft> How would I check if something is equal to "bob" or "sam" in bash?
[19:00] <Surendil> cetabio, madia-db o mysql?
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> TheLawyer  pastebin the output of    sudo systemctl status thermald
[19:01] <cetabio> maria-db
[19:02] <Surendil> cetabio, great!
[19:03] <cetabio> yep, wonder what's the issue with mysql install
[19:03] <cetabio> Tried atleast 10times and any other install works
[19:04] <Surendil> it seems there's a bug in the last upgrade or that's what I just saw
[19:04] <cscf> Polarcraft, if [ $STRING -eq "sam" ]; then
[19:04] <Krisostoomus> why is ubuntu so buggy?
[19:05] <cscf> Krisostoomus, it's not.  Did you have an actual question?
[19:05] <OerHeks> Krisostoomus, just because.
[19:05] <joelio> Users..
[19:05] <Polarcraft> cscf, I mean I want to see if a string is equal to "sam" or "bob".
[19:06] <cscf> Polarcraft, [ $STRING -eq "sam" || $STRING -eq "bob" ]
[19:06] <Polarcraft> Ah.
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> Krisostoomus  what brings you here
[19:06] <Bashing-om> Krisostoomus: Not at all buggy for me . Been using 'buntu for years and never a problem that I did not cause .
[19:06] <Krisostoomus> my voice recording is not working...in audacity it works, on skype and on browsers not
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> Krisostoomus  skype is owned by MS, blame them for not working in linux
[19:08] <joelio> Krisostoomus: audacity may be using alsa or present you with which device to select in recording.. have you set the system audio to use the correct mic input?
[19:08] <de-facto> setup a correct default recording device
[19:09] <dStruct> Krisostoomus: of all the linux distros out there Ubuntu is probably the least buggy of them all, completely free I might add, however it's not Winblows :D
[19:09] <Krisostoomus> "have you set the system audio to use the correct mic input?" how ?
[19:10] <glitchd> anytime i create a new image, weather its a jpg or a png, if i save it to the desktop the icon shows a gear with line through it. but if i clear the thumnail cache and logout/in, it displays fine. what could be the problem?
[19:10] <glitchd> and its specific to if i save it to the desktop, if i save it to my home folder the icon displays fine.
[19:10] <Polarcraft> cscf, my problem now is with this check, could you help me fix the errors?
[19:11] <dStruct> Krisostoomus: have you tried google'ing something like ubuntu skype setup
[19:11] <OerHeks> skype is still beta :-D
[19:12] <Krisostoomus> on opensuse I got it working with apulse library "apulse skype", but i need to talk in facebook with mic... "apulse firefox" seemd not to work
[19:13] <dStruct> Krisostoomus: you have to also understand, a lot of "linux" apps out there such as Skype are usually built for general linux distros, which means they don't always integrate into a particular distro correctly, where as a native package in apt-get would probably work right out of the box so to speak
[19:13] <Krisostoomus> and in skype I see blue blinking video on the other side...
[19:14] <Krisostoomus> alright
[19:14] <joelio> Krisostoomus: pulseaudio is default in ubuntu, so you don't need to run those commands, just use as normal. What is important is you go into your settings panel, sound and set the audio
[19:15] <joelio> Krisostoomus: there is even a level meter, so you can speak into it and check it's the correct input
[19:16] <Krisostoomus> i have tried alsamixer and arecord and aplay.... recording with low quality, at the same time when recording with audacity, quality is good.
[19:16] <Krisostoomus> alsamixer for changing sound levels, mic levels
[19:17] <dStruct> Krisostoomus: have you looked at alsamixer ?
[19:17] <dStruct> Krisostoomus: oh wait you just answered my question :D
[19:17] <ioria> Polarcraft, what error ?
[19:18] <joelio> I think most is driven via pulsaudio now with an alsa-sink.. could be wrong though, depends on the setup
[19:18] <Polarcraft> ioria, run.sh: 5: [: missing ]
[19:18] <Polarcraft>  and run.sh: 5: run.sh: y: not found
[19:18] <joelio> there's pavumeter for pulse
[19:19] <ioria> Polarcraft,  are you running a script ?
[19:19] <Polarcraft> ioria, script: http://pastebin.com/FzYd9MKx
[19:19] <Krisostoomus> i executed sudo killall pulseaudio....still recording with bad quality
[19:20] <ioria> Polarcraft,  if then structure , i think
[19:20] <Polarcraft> Sorry?
[19:21] <ioria> Polarcraft,  double [ ... i mean [[
[19:21] <Polarcraft> run.sh: 5: run.sh: [[: not found
[19:21] <Polarcraft> run.sh: 5: run.sh: y: not found
[19:22] <joelio> do you have a bash shebang?
[19:22] <joelio> ah yea
[19:22] <Polarcraft> shebang?
[19:23] <joelio> Krisostoomus: why kill pulsaudio? It's fundemental part of the system
[19:23] <joelio> Polarcraft: top line in the script, that sets the interpreter
[19:23] <Polarcraft> Ah.
[19:23] <joelio> crunchbang is another term I guess
[19:25] <joelio> Polarcraft: Have you seen case statements in bash? might be a nicer way to handle your input
[19:26] <Polarcraft> Yeah, but I don't know how to exactly do what I want with the case statements.
[19:26] <ioria> Polarcraft, it's working for me with ]] ...
[19:26] <Krisostoomus> I thought pulseaudio is the whole reason
[19:26] <Polarcraft> ioria, what line do I put the double square brackets on?
[19:27] <ioria> Polarcraft,  if [[ "$response" == "yes" || "$response" == "y" ]]
[19:27] <Bashing-om> Polarcraft: A good read : http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FullBashGuide .
[19:27] <Polarcraft> Well yes I did that, but still the error I am getting is what I posted.
[19:28] <Polarcraft> Bashing-om, too long to load.
[19:28] <ioria> Polarcraft,  so the issue is in the first line : if ps ax | grep some > /dev/null
[19:28] <Polarcraft> So change it from what I have to "if ps ax | grep factions > /dev/null"?
[19:29] <joelio> also the logic is wrong, according to what the input request (Y/n), it's case sensitive don't forget
[19:29] <ioria> Polarcraft,  tell us what is factions ... :)
[19:29] <joelio> plus you're not asking for yes/no :)
[19:29] <Polarcraft> ioria, a screen name.
[19:29] <ioria> Polarcraft,  it's running if you do ps -A | grep factions
[19:30] <joelio> also, yes no is a common thing for input, seek and there may be better ways ;)
[19:33] <ioria> Polarcraft,  try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23170609/
[19:34] <Bray90820_> What kernel was default in 12.04?
[19:35] <EriC^^> Bray90820_: lastly or first one?
[19:35] <Testing> hello
[19:35] <OerHeks> check the releasenotes?
[19:35] <ioria> !info linux-generic precise
[19:35] <CHBMB> Bray90820_: Any use http://askubuntu.com/questions/517136/list-of-ubuntu-versions-with-corresponding-linux-kernel-version
[19:35] <Bray90820_> First one
[19:35] <Bray90820_> CHBMB: Thanks
[19:35] <CHBMB> np
[19:37] <OhYash> hey
[19:37] <Polarcraft> ioria, run.sh: 2: run.sh: [[: not found
[19:37] <ioria> Polarcraft,  paste again the script, please
[19:38] <OhYash> Is there any irc client which doesn't display join/exit status for freenode?
[19:38] <OerHeks> OhYash, some have that option, like hexchat
[19:38] <Polarcraft> Wtf? Ubuntu/Linaro 4.4.6-11ubuntu2 is this kids os??
[19:38] <Polarcraft> O.o
[19:39] <Bashing-om> !ircquit
[19:39] <OhYash> 0erHeks : I have Smuxi and Xchat. Anyway to do that in these?
[19:39] <OerHeks> OhYash, xchat is no longer under development, hexchat is a spinn-of from that.
[19:39] <adamc> oh btw... Ubuntu 16.04 LTS is now my primary and only OS on my 13" macbook from mid 2007 :)
[19:40] <OerHeks> Smuxi i don't know, you could script it i guess.
[19:41] <OhYash> 0erHeks : Alright, off to hex I go. Does weechat have the feature btw?
[19:41] <OerHeks> OhYash, full list of clients http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages
[19:42] <OhYash> 0erHeks : Thanks, just what I wanted.
[19:42] <OerHeks> yw
[19:42] <PunicArdent> Hey guys!
[19:43] <PunicArdent> I wanted to ask you, I'm very interested in penetration testing and I am trying to choose between Kali and Ubuntu
[19:43] <PunicArdent> What do yo guys suggest? Should I install ubuntu and get the tools that I need or use Kali?
[19:44] <OerHeks> pentesting is beyond the scope of this channel, see the #kali channel for that
[19:44] <OerHeks> !kali
[19:44] <OhYash> PunicArdent : Go kali!
[19:44] <OerHeks> kali is no longer based on ubuntu, btw
[19:44] <OhYash> or other hacking focused distros
[19:44] <PunicArdent> It's based on debian?
[19:45] <PunicArdent> The only issue with other pen testing distro is that they come preloaded with bunch of tools that you probably won't need
[19:46] <OerHeks> so is the linux-kernel :-D
[19:47] <asus> ahoj
[19:47] <asus> ds
[19:47] <asus> fds
[19:48] <nelsk> I'm trying to use an existing efi partition to boot from and under the manual partitioning setup in the installer, there is no option to set the mount point to /boot/efi under edit partition, is this possible?
[19:51] <DarkSpiritAK47> join /plank
[19:53] <OhYash> nelsk its there usually
[19:53] <OhYash> well it was that last time I checked
[19:54] <OhYash> Does your system support efi?
[19:54] <nelsk> OhYash: yes, the option is not there. This link suggests it should be detected automatically? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Creating_an_EFI_System_Partition
[19:54] <DarkSpiritAK47> i dont know how to get into another room
[19:54] <DarkSpiritAK47> how do i get to plank
[19:54] <DarkSpiritAK47> lol
[19:54] <DarkSpiritAK47> im a idoit
[19:55] <nelsk> Should I be selecting the partition specifically for the boot loader installation?
[19:55] <DarkSpiritAK47> figured it out
[19:55] <OhYash> DarkSpiritAK47 /join #plank maybe
[19:56] <OhYash> nelsk, just like swap space. sounds good
[19:56] <brotkasten> tes
[19:56] <brotkasten> t
[19:57] <brotkasten> nice it works o.O
[19:59] <nelsk> :/ grub-install /dev/sdb2 (the efi partition) failed
[20:00] <fl0k1> can anyone tell me where i can geht mingw32 for ubuntu?
[20:00] <fl0k1> get*
[20:00] <brotkasten> why my mechanical Keyboard dont work on ubuntu but membrane keyboards works? sry for my bad english im from german
[20:01] <fl0k1> @query brotkasten
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> fl0k1  the W means Windows, guess you're not in the right channel http://mingw.org/
[20:02] <PunicArdent> guten tag!
[20:03] <PunicArdent> You could always join #ubuntu-de
[20:03] <fl0k1> MonkeyDust, https://github.com/Screetsec/TheFatRat.git > there i should install mingw32
[20:03] <dwsr> I'm following https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Troubleshooting_error_messages_during_Domain_Member_join and can't get ads to register its DNS properly. I have edited /etc/hosts as instructed and restarted, but am still getting the first error message described in the article.
[20:11] <munsking> Hello, if i install ubuntu 14.04 server in a qemu VM (on a physical HDD) and then put that HDD in a physical machine, will it run as normal or will there be issues?
[20:11] <munsking> cause i'm kinda running out of ideas trying to use this old hardware as a local server
[20:11] <reisio> munsking: how does qemu factor into using old hardware?
[20:12] <munsking> reisio: what do you mean?
[20:12] <reisio> what makes you think qemu would be useful at all?
[20:13] <reisio> doesn't matter you're going about this wrong
[20:13] <reisio> state the problem, not your perceived solution
[20:13] <munsking> reisio: well i know i can use said HDD as a drive in a qemu VM, and i know i can install ubuntu on it, so i thought i'd install it that way and then move the HDD over
[20:14] <munsking> reisio: if i manage to boot from USB it gives mounting errors right after loading the install UI
[20:14] <reisio> munsking: right, but _why_ would you do it that way
[20:14] <reisio> oh okay so you're having trouble booting install media?
[20:14] <munsking> eyup
[20:15] <Jordan_U> munsking: Yes, it should work fine as long as it's a BIOS based machine.
[20:16] <reisio> munsking: alright, it's only got 3.5 drives?
[20:16] <munsking> never had any trouble on my main pc, but that one has up to date hardware, this thing (http://i.imgur.com/Ip3vHJ8.jpg) is ooooold
[20:16] <reisio> munsking: nice case :p
[20:16] <munsking> reisio: i tried 3 different hdds, a small laptop hdd, a WD black, an old 3,5 hdd, same errors all the time
[20:16] <reisio> munsking: no optical drive?
[20:16] <munsking> reisio: thanks :P
[20:17] <munsking> nope, can't be bothered, and i don't wanna have to deal with finding a free dvd and burning it
[20:17] <munsking> Jordan_U: ok, so no driver issues or so like on faildows?
[20:18] <Jordan_U> munsking: Correct. With the exception of proprietary drivers, all drivers are detected at each boot.
[20:18] <munsking> Jordan_U: kk, great, thanks!
[20:18] <reisio> munsking: I would probably partition the drive on another box
[20:18] <Jordan_U> munsking: You're welcome :)
[20:19] <reisio> munsking: installing grub & an install image for Ubuntu
[20:19] <reisio> then boot that
[20:19] <reisio> Windows doesn't really have more driver issues than GNU/Linux, it's just that overcoming driver issues is made more difficult by Windows
[20:19] <munsking> reisio: can i still install it if that drive would be the only one?
[20:19] <reisio> munsking: yup
[20:19] <munsking> cause of the ram fs thingie?
[20:19] <reisio> munsking: you can even reclaim the install media space as the swap partition afterwards
[20:19] <munsking> neato
[20:19] <reisio> um, just because, really
[20:20] <munsking> also, the windows thing, i have had windows fail catastrophically after changing hardware, so it's not as good as linux if you ask me
[20:21] <reisio> it definitely isn't
[20:21] <reisio> my point is that it's not that way because of how the OS is, fundamentally
[20:21] <reisio> it's because they on purpose make it hard for you
[20:21] <reisio> you might also check if there's a bios update first
[20:22] <munsking> hmmkay
[20:22] <munsking> i'll do that once i get something running
[20:22] <munsking> the mobo is scavenged from an old pc without PSU,HDDs,GPU or anything in it, so it's not like i had a running setup with it before
[20:24] <reisio> it lives!
[20:25] <munsking> who? my frankenstein's monster?
[20:30] <dStruct> munsking: most likely if you try to boot a VM installed drive in a PC it will have issues, not always, but probably.  There are a lot of variables to consider, EFI boot partition vs MBR, boot loader i.e. grub config, scsi vs ide, who knows
[20:31] <munsking> dStruct: i think i can simulate the hardware setup pretty closely just not exactly, i've managed it with arch before somehow but i can't exactly remember if something went wrong
[20:31] <dStruct> munsking: if you have a secondary machine on the same network you can do a netboot/network install?  You can also install from USB if that box even knows what USB is
[20:32] <reisio> yeah I wouldn't bother with a VM
[20:32] <dStruct> reisio: I second that
[20:32] <reisio> I'd try cloning a metal install before I bothered with a VM
[20:32] <munsking> dStruct: i'm trying USB but it keeps running into issues (somehow /dev/sda5 is in use, if i try to umount it says it's an invalid arguement)
[20:32] <reisio> but really I'd just setup a hard disk to boot install media
[20:32] <reisio> (well, really I'd probably replace the hardware in question)
[20:32] <reisio> time is the most valuable part
[20:32] <dStruct> munsking: how did you make the USB key?
[20:33] <munsking> dStruct: dd, as usual
[20:33] <dStruct> munsking: you know you can put together a really cheap modern "server" for like $200 maybe $300 depending on what you already have
[20:33] <ankkax> Hi, I have some problems with ubuntu 16.04 gnome 3.20 libinput . Here's Reddit Link for everything I'v tried https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/52bmt7/how_to_configure_libinput_ubuntu_gnome_1604/
[20:34] <dStruct> munsking: hell you could even buy a Beaglebone Black and make that a "server" although it wouldn't have much for storage lol
[20:34] <Jordan_U> munsking: I've done this before multiple times actually with no problems. If the machine is UEFI then you'll run into issues, but as long as qemu is booting via BIOS (which it should by default) and the machine boots via BIOS (you said it was old) I expect it will work fine.
[20:34] <munsking> dStruct: my upload at home isn't nearly enough for spend money on a dedicated server, i'm just trying to make one with the scraps i have laying around until i'm 100% sure i can keep this job and rent a VPS
[20:35] <dStruct> munsking: why not just install Virtual Box, VMware, or Parallels (wouldn't recommend), on your existing PC and run it inside there?
[20:35] <Jordan_U> munsking: Note also that recent versions of qemu protect sector 0 (the MBR) unless you explicitly specify that the drive is a "raw image".
[20:35] <reisio> the point is to utilize extant hardware, not use an OS he doesn't use as primary
[20:35] <nelsk> Is there a ubiquity help channel? Really having some trouble with the boot setup, renders the installer unresponsive after a grub-install failure...
[20:36] <munsking> dStruct: i wanna be able to access my pc from the internet, i don't have a 2nd network card, i can't make my pc into a router cause i fucking despise networking
[20:37] <guest2> Wait you hate networking but you're ok with Linux?
[20:37] <blarge> munsking: you dont use your pc as a router as you cant or you dont want to
[20:37] <munsking> Jordan_U: i always use raw files, so that's not a problem :D
[20:37] <guest2> Networking is baby-mode compared to Linux lol
[20:37] <munsking> Guest2: eyup
[20:37] <munsking> Guest2 no it isn't, at least not for my autistic brain xD
[20:37] <dStruct> munsking: well if your goal is to run/learn a linux OS, you should be able to install Virtual Box for free, and install whatever OS you want (or many) into it, and run them virtually, it will handle all the networking automagically, all you do is install and go
[20:38] <dStruct> munsking: if your goal is to see what you can do with some ancient hardware, I would say slave a spare HD into your PC, and install linux onto it, then pop it out and put it in the old box and see how it boots
[20:39] <arooni> how do i install fzf on ubuntu?  via git?
[20:39] <munsking> dStruct: vbox gets an ip not in my routers range, i've got a dyndns set up and i can't forward traffic to it, i've tried, maybe i've been tinking too complicated but i never managed it to work :/
[20:39] <theseb> if i nuke some files of a package how repair?
[20:39] <Jordan_U> munsking: Please watch your language in this channel.
[20:39] <theseb> is there easier way to repair deleted files than removing and reinstalling packages
[20:39] <theseb> ?
[20:40] <dStruct> munsking: sounds like you want to run an outside facing server of some sort from inside your network, you'll need to forward I'm assuming port 80 TCP through your router to the PC running the VM, then you have to make sure you configure the VM networking to have a IP address on your local network and not use NAT, most VM software will default to NAT'ing traffic thru your PC's existing IP
[20:41] <guest2> I could do like iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j FORWARD; iptables -A somethign something something MASQUERADE something BUTT_FORWARD something iptables -A OUTPUT -d not my butt something holy crap wtf are all these freaking commands doing
[20:41] <guest2> Or I could plug a thing into a router
[20:41] <blarge> hey guys.. I have a weird problem (using kxstudios repo)... at one point I turned off wifi and networking via nm-applet, but then the option to reenable wifi disappeared... Therefore my wifi is broken.. Please help! I've tried installing other guis but I cant even see networks that are available. any insights are much appreciated, thanks
[20:41] <guest2> I choose the router lol
[20:41] <guest2> Way way way easier to me.
[20:41] <k1l> guest2: this channel is for technical ubuntu support and not pointless rantings or other offtopic.
[20:43] <guest2> !help
[20:43] <blarge> hahah! thanks ubottu
[20:44] <guest2> How do I destroy a country with ubuntu?
[20:44]  * dStruct slowly steps away...
[20:44] <blarge> hey guys.. I have a weird problem (using kxstudios repo)... at one point I turned off wifi and networking via nm-applet, but then the option to reenable wifi disappeared... Therefore my wifi is broken.. Please help! I've tried installing other guis but I cant even see networks that are available. any insights are much appreciated, thanks
[20:45] <reisio> blarge: why do you want to use kxstudios for this?
[20:45] <blarge> reisio: its just the distribution I use (context, I dont care about it, just not plain ubuntu is all)
[20:46] <blarge> reisio: even though technically its not a distro. I'm just trying to fix my wireless in whatever way I can
[20:46] <reisio> so it didn't work with plain nm-applet is what you're saying
[20:52] <th0r> blarge, hae you checked /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/dhcpcd.conf?
[20:52] <th0r> blarge, if they aren't right, have been changed in some way, it could keep nm from working
[20:53] <blarge> th0r: k checking now - should i just delete and let it recreate? not sure how to tell if its been changed
[20:53]  * FuriousGeorge 
[20:53] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[20:53] <th0r> blarge, don't delete...they won't get recreated
[20:53] <reisio> hey ust you
[20:54] <reisio> just*
[20:54] <th0r> blarge, I could send you a copy of the defaults, but they would be for raspbian...I no longer run ubuntu
[20:55] <blarge> shouldnt the conf file be recreated as the default if I delete it though?
[20:55] <blarge> th0r: the other option I saw online was rfkill unblock all or resetting to default on the bios
[20:55] <th0r> blarge, not sure...but I am pretty sure interfaces wouuldn't get recreated and it is the really important one.
[20:57] <th0r> blarge, here is what I know. I use static ip on all my servers in my home network so i control the wifi through /etc/network/interfaces. AS soon as I modify that file nm no longer works (no big deal on a server).
[20:57] <blarge> th0r: yeah I think i was switching around settings when trying to host a network so this is likely
[20:57] <th0r> blarge, on my desktop, when I wanted to go back to using nm, I had to restore interfaces to its default value to get nm working
[20:58] <blarge> th0r: and you do that how
[20:58] <th0r> blarge, just a sec
[20:58] <blarge> just by switching back the script file to the original?
[20:58] <blarge> th0r: k thanks I appreciate your help
[20:58] <th0r> blarge, no....just a sec
[20:59] <rodion> hello
[20:59] <reisio> hiya
[20:59] <th0r> blarge, mind you this is off my desktop...a pi3 running raspbian, debian for arm. The interfaces file only has two lines....
[20:59] <th0r> 'auto lo' and 'iface lo inet loopback'
[21:00] <th0r> blarge, so you might try commenting out everything in /etc/network/interfaces except those two and see if nm starts working again
[21:01] <th0r> blarge, the other file is /etc/dhcpcd.conf. If there is something amiss there it will probably show up in dns issues
[21:01] <th0r> blarge, but again....this is all off raspbian. I was hoping an ubuntu guru would jump in with any corrections
[21:01] <blarge> th0r: would I have to restart to see if it worked?
[21:01] <blarge> me too hahha
[21:01] <blarge> it seems I'll be able to figure it out
[21:02] <th0r> blarge, not sure if a reboot is necessary or not.
[21:02] <blarge> but it seems concerning I just realized the wifi not even listed in rfkill
[21:02] <th0r> blarge, it might just need something like 'sudo service networking restart'
[21:03] <blarge> oh yeah I tried that but it said stop: job failed while stopping
[21:03] <blarge> th0r:
[21:03] <blarge> i'm gonna try the interfaces
[21:03] <th0r> blarge, it would if the network isn't up and running. Cant stop what is started
[21:04] <th0r> what isN'T started
[21:04] <blarge> th0r: interesting. yeah the interfaces is the same already
[21:04] <blarge> oh by the 2nd half of the error is that it IS already running th
[21:04] <jim> hi, I'm looking for the package firmware-linux-nonfree... how can I search for it?
[21:05] <reisio> apt-file search
[21:05] <jim> it's not a file, it's a package
[21:05] <reisio> semanticses
[21:05] <ash_workz> someone tell me if I'm going the wrong direction here
[21:06] <reisio> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-firmware-nonfree
[21:06] <jim> well that package is -in- a file, but not one that's written to an installation
[21:06] <reisio> ash_workz: you are
[21:06] <blarge> th0r: I'll be back i'm gonna try restarting but thanks for your help i might be back hah
[21:06] <th0r> blarge, good luck
[21:07] <TheLawyer> MonkeyDust: I've already installed Psensors but that is nothing rather logging temperature
[21:07] <jim> has it been removed from wily+1?
[21:07] <ash_workz> I wanted to do a full backup a server locally, so I did 'rsync -aAXv --exclude={...} ash@0.0.0.0:/ .` but I got a permission denied on files /boot/System.map-...-generic
[21:07] <TheLawyer> MonkeyDust: I'm looking for away to decrease the cpu/hdd heat on ubuntu and calm down the fan
[21:08] <ash_workz> 1) Should I be doing it that way?
[21:08] <ash_workz> 2) is it possible to sudo
[21:08] <ash_workz> ?
[21:08] <ash_workz> 3) is /boot necessary?
[21:08] <ash_workz> 4) is /boot/System.map* necessary?
[21:09] <praet> hi room. is there any way to make mathomatic interpret ANSI escape sequences as movement?
[21:09] <ash_workz> 5) should I be asking these questions in another channel?
[21:09] <reisio> jim: I see things on launchpad for it
[21:09] <reisio> and Debian still has it
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> TheLawyer  install indicator-cpufreq and thermald
[21:09] <reisio> probably just nobody has been bothered
[21:09] <hatory> hi
[21:09] <praet> in mathomatic, when i press up, it prints ^[[A instead of moviong to previous entry
[21:10] <ash_workz> reisio: yeah, that's usually the answer
[21:10] <reisio> it is isn't it :p
[21:10] <k1l> jim: that is not a ubuntu naming sheme
[21:10] <ash_workz> any advice?
[21:11] <jim> k1l, what's not?
[21:11] <k1l> firmware-linux-nonfree, jim
[21:12] <jim> why then, did it exist in ubuntu? (and more importantly, why was it removed and what replaces it?)
[21:12] <reisio> jim: he means it isn't anymore, presumably
[21:12] <k1l> jim: ah wait, i found some old pacages for it.
[21:12] <reisio> I saw some stuff for 'firmware-nonfree', too
[21:12] <jim> so did reisio :)
[21:13] <k1l> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware-nonfree/+bug/1513589
[21:13]  * reisio yawns
[21:13] <mustmodify> So I have this weird issue... I SSH into a machine. Then after some period of inactivity, I can't type anything, but the session doesn't die.  Then > 10 minutes later I get a "Pipe Broken" error. What's happening during that intermediate period?
[21:13] <reisio> mustmodify: it's trying to not be dead, even though it is
[21:13] <jim> does that bug report say what replaces it?
[21:13] <k1l> jim: "nothing" as i see it
[21:14] <reisio> jim: you can still get it from elsewhere at launchpad
[21:14] <k1l> jim: but you should get the firmware from the manufacturer directly
[21:14] <jim> k1l, so, the files that were in it are no longer packaged for ubuntu?
[21:15] <jim> that sounds like an installation breaker
[21:15] <reisio> no particularly guarantee that unicorn wireless hardware will work regardless
[21:16] <k1l> jim: as i understand it the manufacturers dont want that because they choose a license that doesnt permit it.
[21:16] <FrozenYogurt> I need some advice regarding a dual boot I am attempting to set up on my Asus laptop running windows 8.1. My concern is how the system will boot?(GRUB or Windows Boot manager)?
[21:16] <reisio> FrozenYogurt: best to use grub as primary
[21:16] <reisio> FrozenYogurt: since it's designed to be aware of more than one OS, and Windows' boot loader is not
[21:16] <nettools> Grub
[21:17] <reisio> also it's just... less bad? :p
[21:17] <mustmodify> reisio: Well that's nice, I guess.  Not nice enough. :P
[21:17] <reisio> mustmodify: :D
[21:17] <reisio> mustmodify: solutions abound
[21:17] <mustmodify> I'm setting ServerAliveInterval.
[21:17] <mustmodify> We'll see if that works.
[21:17] <FrozenYogurt> reisio: I have read about some people experiencing issues with grub booting windows 8.
[21:17] <reisio> FrozenYogurt: I've read about some people experiencing issues with Windows' boot loader booting Windows
[21:18] <reisio> grub boot issues are usually, maybe 99% of the time, simple text file misconfigurations
[21:18] <FrozenYogurt> Also I am curious if I were to completely format all partitions including efi and bootloader and then install both os which one should I install first?
[21:20] <praet> does mathomatic use readline or ncurses?
[21:20] <OerHeks> windows goes bezerk when it detekts ubuntu/linux. so start with windows.
[21:21] <FrozenYogurt> OerHeks: Exactly, that's what my concern is. Windows seems to be a bit of attention hog, perhaps I should just forget it entirely and make the switch to linux
[21:22] <reisio> praet: readline and ncurses aren't really alternatives to one another
[21:22] <reisio> mathomatic looks like a GUI app to me
[21:22] <reisio> so not primarily either
[21:23] <reisio> the only commandline thing I see looks pretty win32-y
[21:23] <reisio> if it uses open source unixy libs at all, no it's not ncurses
[21:26] <blarge> hey wonderful peoples.. I have a very frustrating problem that I could really use some help on... I need my wifi for the work I'm doing and for a few days, the enable wireless option has straight disappeared, from nm-applet, and there is no wireless showing up in rfkill... I have no idea what happened, but could really use some backup from people.. Thanks much, any insights are appreciated
[21:26] <charlston> thanks
[21:26] <lordcirth> blarge, does your laptop have a hardware switch?
[21:26] <braggit> so why exactly do we need to partition the drive? can we only store and access files specific to that partition? let's say, if I have dual boot with windows and I am using ubuntu, i cannot access any files that would be saved on windows?
[21:26] <blarge> p.s. there is no on/off wireless on the hardware,
[21:27] <blarge> lordcirth: na
[21:27] <lordcirth> blarge, you're sure there's no keyboard shortcut to toggle wifi either?
[21:27] <jim> blarge, might you have done something that caused its removal?
[21:27] <blarge> unless theres some secret hotkeys that can do it... no theres not switch on the computer
[21:27] <lordcirth> braggit, because Linux uses a different filesystem, so it needs to be separate.  And you can mount your Windows partitions in Linux to access them.
[21:28] <braggit> lordcirth: so ubuntu and windows will both be independent in terms of saving and accessing files per each other, correct?
[21:28] <blarge> actually there is a short key for it...
[21:28] <lordcirth> braggit, yes, that's the idea
[21:29] <blarge> but apparently its not changing anything
[21:29] <lordcirth> blarge, open a terminal, run 'dmesg -w', and toggle the keys
[21:29] <Bashing-om> FrozenYogurt: Look before you leap ? http://www.itworld.com/operating-systems/347533/ubuntu-guide-displaced-windows-users .
[21:30] <braggit> lordcirth: i see. thank you
[21:31] <braggit> lordcirth: and how much does ubuntu itself take up? if I'm looking to partition 25gb, then how much of that will be available storage space?
[21:32] <lordcirth> braggit, perhaps 15GB left once you install some software.  It depends how much you install
[21:32] <Surendil> f
[21:32] <reisio> f!
[21:32] <hatory> hi
[21:32] <hatory> g
[21:32] <reisio> g, too
[21:33] <hatory> h for now
[21:33] <abaldygle>  blarge:  Suggest you do a live boot from the ubuntu insall cd   see if your wifi is recognized by the live boot.  Rules out hardware issue.
[21:33] <hatory> try ifconfig wlan0 up
[21:33] <hatory> or switch your wifi via button(or toggle button)
[21:36] <braggit> why is it recommended to access the network during installation? in my previous experiences using windows, i usually do not connect to the network until after I have completely finished loading the OS
[21:36] <k1l> braggit: to load updates that were released in the time when the iso was made and now
[21:37] <Surendil> blarge, what's the status on /etc/init.d/network-manager?
[21:37] <k1l> braggit: its better to intsall the updated package in the first place than to load the "old" package and then let you wait another time to update your system on first reboot
[21:39] <braggit> k1l: got it. how often does ubuntu roll out updates?
[21:39] <blarge> Surendil: theres only "networking" file right now...
[21:39] <porkstore> anyone know if there is a simple way to get past this problem with W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available
[21:39] <porkstore> all the google results are saying to delete and recreate a long list of keys manually
[21:39] <porkstore> on the other hand, i don't feel like doing that
[21:40] <k1l> braggit: all the time. there are securityupdates as fast as there is a known fix and udpates to fix heavy bugfixes. usually they are collected for one week and then the udpater asks you to install them. but for heavy security updates it will ask immediately
[21:40] <Surendil> blarge, maybe that's why it doesn't work, try to install network-manager package with apt-get
[21:40] <braggit> is it possible to repartition the drive at a later time? (if dual booting with windows and ubuntu). let's say later down the line i'd like to modify the partition size, would that be possible?
[21:41] <blarge> Surendil: it is installed... but I think some settings might have been changed
[21:41] <k1l> braggit: yes. just load a live ubuntu again and resize the partitions
[21:41] <braggit> k1l: okay got it. but i'm sure it's no where near a headache as they are on windows. i'm pretty damn fed up with windows to be honest
[21:41] <braggit> k1l: okay so technically you would just have to reinstall?
[21:42] <k1l> braggit: yeah, and you dont have to reboot 3 times to install updates etc.
[21:42] <blarge> Surendil: its really confusing actually.....
[21:42] <nettools> alguien experto en FOREMOST
[21:42] <nettools> ???
[21:42] <Surendil> blarge, it is!
[21:42] <Surendil> !es | nettools
[21:42] <Bashing-om> braggit: Updates - security - sometimes within the hour . There is no set schedule for updates - there is for point releases .
[21:42] <k1l> braggit: no. you just need to boot a live system, because you can change the partitions you are using with the OS booting from the hdd.
[21:44] <Surendil> blarge, just wondering, if you use an ubuntu live usb, does the wireless work?
[21:44] <braggit> my laptop only has an ssd. this will not be an issue, right?
[21:45] <k1l> braggit: it will work as a hdd, just faster :)
[21:45] <blarge> Surendil: i mean the wireless has worked fine on ubuntu (kxstudios), it just recently stopped working
[21:46] <Surendil> blarge, my guess is that something weird is going on with your network-manager
[21:47] <OerHeks> or a fn + wireless key on your laptop
[21:48] <Surendil> OerHeks, he already tried that
[21:48] <blarge> Surendil: your probably right. is a reinstall a sensible thing to do?
[21:48] <blarge> p.s. nothing but bluetooth shows up in rfkill list right now
[21:49] <abaldygle> blarge:  have you tried to boot to the livecd and see if it recognizes your wifi?   Rules out hardware issue.
[21:50] <Surendil> blarge, it would be nice to fix the wifi, but re-installing is not a bad idea
[21:50] <braggit> k1l: awesome!
[21:51] <braggit> so my desktop PC has windows installed on the SSD and all data/files on an HDD. does it matter how/where i install ubuntu on my desktop PC with two drives?
[21:52] <blarge> thanks Surendil and abaldygle i'll check in windows to confirm its not ACTUALLY broken, and try reinstalling nm if its just linux. thanks
[21:52] <Bashing-om> braggit: SSD install is much much faster operating system .
[21:52] <Surendil> blarge, np! =)
[21:53] <TheLawyer> moneylotion: ok, but what are those and how are they going to affect/change/reduce the building heat of the pc/?
[21:54] <neoromantique_he> hi; My audio card (USB) is making crackling and popping noises;
[21:54] <neoromantique_he> Same issue in gentoo and 16.04
[21:56] <u0_a206> no quitting pun?
[21:57] <cyphix> Hi. A friend try to connect his laptop to an external monitor. The monitor is detected (as show xrandr), the mouse can go on the external monitor, but nothing is displayed there. The monitor works, as tested with another laptop. Any idea what could cause the issue? Apparently, rebooting the laptop with the monitor connected solves the issue, but it's not a satisfying solution.
[21:58] <Kubius> Yello
[21:59] <Kubius> I'm on Lubuntu and trying to access a hard drive from a deadish TiVo
[21:59] <Kubius> It's apparently got some sort of unconventional file system, but it showed up as "mac formatted" when I did lshw -c
[22:00] <Kubius> anyone got any ideas for how I can get onto this thing?
[22:01] <lordcirth> Kubius, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TiVo_Media_File_System
[22:02] <Kubius> okay, so it's a clusterflop... figured as much
[22:02] <blarge> sooooooooo Surendil apparently my wifi is not being detected in windows either.... so I'm really hoping my wireless didnt actually just brake and its fixable in bios or something..
[22:02] <Kubius> it says enough is known to do reads - my goal is just to grab a few videos - but it doesn't actually bother to mention any methods
[22:03] <cyphix> Other thing: when pressing Fn + F5 (to activate the external monitor), everything becomes black, on both monitors. Any input would be much appreciated...
[22:03] <Surendil> blarge, well, first of all, check BIOS to see if it is enabled, if not....well, you know!
[22:03] <lordcirth> Kubius, a quick search shows that there is a thing called mfstools for this
[22:04] <blarge> hmmm Surendil I dont know but I just checked around in the bios and it seems like everything was enabled
[22:04] <Kubius> I tried using apt-get to load mfstools, but had no luck
[22:05] <lordcirth> Kubius, something this obscure is unlikely to be in repos.
[22:05] <blarge> Surendil: think that means that hardwares just fucked somehow? seems impossible but
[22:05] <lordcirth> You'll probably have to track it down and compile from source
[22:05] <blarge> Surendil: I guess a wireless usb isnt the worst thing in the world...
[22:05] <blarge> doh, a wifi usb*
[22:06] <lordcirth> Kubius, http://mfstools.sourceforge.net/
[22:06] <Surendil> blarge, haha, no is not, it could be much much worse!
[22:06] <Kubius> welp
[22:06] <Kubius> guess I'll give it a whirl, see how it turns out
[22:06] <Surendil> blarge, just to be sure, check BIOS and then boot with an ubuntu live cd to be sure!
[22:07] <blarge> Surendil: yeah if bios doesnt work I cant imagine it not working in windows anymore and still working with live
[22:07] <blarge> thanks though
[22:08] <Surendil> blarge, anytime!
[22:08] <blarge> cheers, enjoy the day
[22:08] <Surendil> u2
[22:09] <Kubius> well that's a delight
[22:09] <Kubius> evidently you can add volumes, check the partitions, backup and restore
[22:09] <Kubius> but the file system itself is one of those lovely black-box situations
[22:14] <munsking> Jordan_U: it worked, the machine's running now :)
[22:14] <munsking> but now i can't install tmuxinator for some reason
[22:14] <munsking> ah well, that's a problem for tomorrow
[22:14] <munsking> thanks again to everyone who helped
[22:14] <munsking> night!
[22:16] <bladepipe> hi
[22:16] <bladepipe> ubuntu is buggy!
[22:16] <bladepipe> gma500 is not working!
[22:16] <DzAirmaX> hey
[22:16] <DzAirmaX> I crashed again
[22:16] <DzAirmaX> FML
[22:17] <bladepipe> ubuntu is crashing hard. ACPI probe failed gma 500 - trying to get vblank cound for disabled pipe
[22:19] <bladepipe> any help?
[22:19] <bladepipe> why doesn't ubuntu support gma500???
[22:20] <k1l> wasnt gma 500 the very bad card 5 years back?
[22:20] <ash_workz> I'm trying to rsync a remote / locally; there are permissions issues and I don't want to change the sudo policy or sshd; I know I can rsync in reverse from the server, but I think I need to have my local computer allow the connection somehow.... help?
[22:20] <bladepipe> k1l so bad that even windows 10 doesn't support it.
[22:22] <bladepipe> so... any operating system supporting gma 500 card?
[22:22] <bladepipe> I have several computers with GMA500 card!
[22:22] <Guy1524> what made it bad?
[22:22] <bladepipe> Guy1524, windows 10 doesn't support it:(
[22:23] <tanxen> is it possible to install software that hasn't been compiled for the most utd LTS release?
[22:23] <k1l> its a video card from 2008 that never had good drivers for windows or linux.
[22:23] <tanxen> I just noticed there was no pd-extended package (pure data)
[22:23] <bladepipe> k1l, a video card that is top 1 search in gooooogle:)
[22:24] <dax> gma500 is awful
[22:24] <dax> get a video card that isn't terrible
[22:24] <dax> cheaper in the long run, if you value your time at all
[22:24] <bladepipe> dax so awful that no one likes it, but is top 1 search on gooooogle.
[22:25] <dax> i'm not sure what its position in google searches (not that that makes any sense) has to do with how absolutely craptacular it is
[22:25] <k1l> bladepipe: top one search on google doesnt say its a good one. actually its a rubbish one so all user do google their card to find some help desperately.
[22:25] <bladepipe> k1l ya, but ubuntu doesn't support it, so is so bad that no one cares.
[22:25] <dax> Intel farmed that chipset out to some other company, proper drivers never got made for it on any OS, apparently you didn't research before purchasing, hopefully you can find something that actually boots. If not, oh well.
[22:26] <k1l> bladepipe: its not a ubuntu issue. its a linux issue. and even intel doesnt care about that card while they ship open source drivers for their other cards.
[22:26] <bladepipe> dax so... should I put my vaio p 31zk on garbage? it's new and it's awesome!!!
[22:26] <nettools> some one expert in FOREMOST
[22:26] <dax> you bought a *new* machine with a *gma500*?!
[22:27] <bladepipe> dax no, i have a VILIV N5 and a VAIO P 31 ZK
[22:27] <dax> anyway. yes, if it has a gma500 inside you couldn't pay me to take it
[22:27] <bladepipe> dax I love them, they are mini laptops:)
[22:27] <dax> have fun with that, then
[22:28] <bladepipe> dax, windows 7 runs fine on it:)
[22:28] <dax> then run Windows 7 on it
[22:28] <bladepipe> dax sad is that windows 10 doesn't support it
[22:28] <k1l> bladepipe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo
[22:28] <bladepipe> dax and ubuntu doesn't even cares.
[22:28] <dax> i would not recommend running any form of Linux on a computer using Poulsbo
[22:29] <dax> i would rather throw the computer into a fire, walk barefoot over shards of glass to the nearest computer store, and purchase a new computer, than do so
[22:29] <k1l> bladepipe: intel doesnt even care. since they dont ship drivers for that. ubuntu doesnt make drivers at all. its a linux distribution.
[22:30] <bladepipe> k1l ya, you're right.
[22:30] <kus-queens> k1l btw what is this proprietary microcode that I get on Ubuntu?
[22:30] <bladepipe> dax do a search for the models before say something
[22:32] <luke__> Anyone know how I move the [X - and square] buttons to the right?
[22:32] <k1l> luke__: on unity? its not possible
[22:33] <luke__> Kk, thanks for letting me know.
[22:34] <OerHeks> some programs do, without system-theme enabled, like chrome
[22:35] <OerHeks> vlc too, for example
[22:37] <Jordan_U> kus-queens: All CPUs have what is called microcode, which you can think of as sort of your CPU's firmware (not to be confused with your boot firmware, which is entirely different). Every once in a while Intel may for instance fix a bug in their CPU, and so they release new microcode. This new microcode can either be permanently added to the CPU (sort of) or you can have linux load the new microcode at
[22:37] <Jordan_U> boot. I would always recommend using the newer microcode. It's no more proprietary than the microcode you're already running, and it may contain fixes that will benefit you.
[22:44] <Hoffman> how do I prevent a cifs filesystem in fstab from automounting?
[22:46] <reisio> Hoffman: man fstab, /noauto
[22:46] <reisio> or, pretending like we didn't know about 'noauto' already: man fstab, /auto
[22:46] <Hoffman> thanks
[23:07] <xmonad_newb> hi room
[23:07] <lordcirth> xmonad_newb, hi
[23:08] <xmonad_newb> I have a question. When I log into my ubuntu desktop (default dm which i assume is lightdm) does ~/.xsessionrc get executed?
[23:09] <xmonad_newb> The reason I ask is that I'm using xmonad WM and I want to start appliactions like trayer, xcompmgr etc when I login
[23:12] <cyphix> As said previously, I encounter issues using a second monitor. Nothing shows up, except if I restart the computer. It seems that it does not wake up properly from sleep. What could I restart to reset the display settings?
[23:25] <Bray90820_> So my bunSo ubuntu 16.04 boots correctly with nomodeset and once like every 10 times it boots without nomodeset is there a way I can get it to always boot without nomodeset
[23:25] <Bray90820_> Idk what other information to give so just ask
[23:27] <k1l> what video card is it and what driver is in use? "lspci -nnk" will tell
[23:31] <OerHeks> it makes no sense, 1 out of 10 boots without nomodeset.
[23:32] <Adit> Is there a command that compares to folders and outputs which files exists and which do not (unlike 'diff' which compares files line by line)
[23:33] <Bray90820_> k1l: www.termbin.com/p0rp
[23:33] <Adit> Is there a command that compares 2 folders and outputs which files exists and which do not (unlike 'diff' which compares files line by line)
[23:33] <k1l> there is a diff for directories. doesnt diff work that way alread?
[23:34] <OerHeks> diff can compare filenames solely too
[23:34] <Bray90820_> k1l: Sorry do you want a different paste?
[23:35] <k1l> Bray90820_: hmm, nomodeset for intel only setups is quite unusual.
[23:35] <Bray90820_> It works 100% of the time with nomodeset and 10% of the time without
[23:36] <Hakarin> Is this the correct place to ask about ubuntu phones?
[23:36] <k1l> !touch | Hakarin
[23:36] <OerHeks> Hakarin, they hang out in #ubuntu-touch
[23:37] <Hakarin> Thanks
[23:38] <Bray90820_> k1l: So what should i do?
[23:40] <k1l> Bray90820_: do you have the latest bios updates installed?
[23:41] <Bray90820_> it's uefi and I think so
[23:41] <k1l> so you alerady did update it?
[23:41] <loadedanvils> I am attempting to recover my encrypted home partition after errors on my /boot/efi or / partitions by upgrading Ubuntu Gnome to the next version
[23:42] <loadedanvils> should the /home mount point on the partition be visible if it is encrypted with ecryptfs?
[23:42] <Bray90820_> k1l: I didn't update it because the latest was already installed
[23:43] <k1l> Bray90820_: ok. because i found some people saying it worked after a bios update
[23:44] <Bray90820_> What else is there to try?
[23:45] <Bashing-om> Bray90820_: k1l :; bodhi.zazen advises in a similar vein to reinstall the driver : http://askubuntu.com/questions/550307/can-only-start-with-nomodeset .
[23:47] <Bray90820_> Should I try "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel"
[23:47] <Bray90820_> Bashing-om:
[23:49] <Bashing-om> Bray90820_: Well O have in mind perhaps a --reinstall .. look presently at the status ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-intel " .
[23:49] <fishcooker> https://bpaste.net/show/f6ce052dd20e
[23:50] <fishcooker> why this ipset can't get the resource
[23:53] <Bray90820_> Bashing-om: I disabled boot loader graphic with xdiagnose and now nomodeset  won't work
[23:55] <Bashing-om> Bray90820_: Having to boot with nomodeset os a bad thing . need to find out where the graphics fault is . Can you boot to the console ( ctl+alt+F1) at the login screen ? Mind ya, I have very little experience with Intel !
[23:55] <Bashing-om> os/is*
[23:56] <Bray90820_> Bashing-om: Well as of right now I can't even boot with nomodeset because I disabled bootloader graphic with xdiagnose
[23:58] <Bashing-om> Bray90820_: Be aware . nomodeset disables Kernel Mode Setting .. ya loose a lot of control of the system with that . Will not load the higher level graphic's driver .
[23:59] <Bray90820_> Bashing-om: do you not understand that I currently can't boot with nomodeset because I bootloader graphic?