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xubuntu45wi need help05:38
glitchdanyone know why .svg images wont diplay on icons in 16.04?06:09
glitchdcould it be a broken or misconfigured mime type?06:15
glitchdanyone alive in here..?06:24
glitchdis it possible to stop the system from switching sound devices when the screen saver activates?08:02
glitchddoes anyone respond to anything in here? wth?..08:15
glitchdhello?08:28
cfhowlettyes, you are seen.08:28
glitchdlol awesome then im just being ignored08:29
glitchdthats cool08:29
Furkiepurkieglitchd: or the people that would have an answer to your question arent here, just wait and eventually someone will show up08:35
Furkiepurkie'arent here' as in idling/afk08:36
glitchdrightright08:36
glitchdjust never seem to get a response to nearly anything in here08:37
glitchdhow can i tell ubuntu not to switch sound devices when the screen saver/screen blank activates?08:42
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glitchdanytime i create a new image, weather its a jpg or a png, if i save it to the desktop the icon shows a gear with line through it. but if i clear the thumnail cache and logout/in, it displays fine. what could be the problem?19:07
glitchdand its specific to if i save it to the desktop, if i save it to my home folder the icon displays fine.19:09
Spassglitchd: does pressing F5 on the desktop works?19:12
glitchdSpass, ill check19:12
glitchdSpass, wtf. yes! my god thats so much simpler19:13
glitchdSpass, any idea why this happens?19:14
Spasswhat icon theme are you using? because my guess is that gear is just a default icon for PNG and JPG in that set, or it's broken19:14
glitchdelementary i believe19:14
glitchdelementary xfce darker to be exact19:16
glitchdi also have another problem with this icon theme that ive been trying to solve19:16
glitchdhere is the link to a picture of the problem https://s21.postimg.org/y6fjyipgn/Untitled.jpg19:17
glitchdthe pictures category shows the same broken gear as the picture files did19:17
glitchdi can be fixed with a different theme, but i like this theme so id like to keep it19:18
Spassyes, I tried to help you with this issue last time, but you went away19:18
glitchdoh..19:18
glitchdi try not to overstay my welcome in these rooms19:19
Spassgive me a sec, I will tell you what to do19:19
glitchdSpass, thank you19:19
Spassok, first, download this icon https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8qh4-wxxEZ7em81UWJOWmhNNDQ19:23
glitchdSpass, got it19:24
Spassand save it in your main home folder (/home/your_username/image-x-generic.png)19:24
glitchddone19:25
Spassthen use this command in the terminal19:26
Spasssudo cp ~/image-x-generic.png /usr/share/icons/elementary-xfce/mimes/16/19:26
glitchddone19:27
Spassthat's it19:27
glitchdwow.19:28
glitchdall the typing and asking ive done, and it was that simple19:28
glitchdwth..19:28
glitchddammit thank you19:28
Spassnp19:29
glitchdcare to try your hand at another problem?19:29
SpassI don't know what's with that gear icons tho, I checked and I have proper PNG/JPG icons19:30
Spassbut... I have the same problem with Thunar refreshing19:30
glitchdmeh19:30
glitchdno biggie19:30
glitchdbut that wasnt what i was gonna ask19:30
glitchdlol19:30
SpassI just must press F519:30
Spassthe same thing is with extracting files for example, I must refresh to see the proper folder name of an extracted file19:31
Spassit could be a Thunar issue in Xubuntu 16.04 but I'm not sure19:31
glitchdthats what i was thinking19:32
glitchdjust a problem in this release19:32
glitchdas each release has somekind of stupid problem lol19:32
glitchdi have a question regarding hdmi sound..19:33
knomeglitchd, you are welcome to contribute and make sure those "stupid problems" do not slip out (:19:33
glitchdknome, right on19:34
glitchdknome, i help when i can19:34
glitchdSpass, care to tackle this hdmi problem, maybe not a problem but a setting perhaps..19:35
SpassI probably won't be a help with this, but just describe your problem here19:36
glitchdok19:36
Spassmaybe someone will know how to solve it19:36
Spassmy suggestion, when nobody replies, just minimize HexChat, and forget about it for some time, then come back and check19:37
glitchdi use my 50" tv as my monitor. my sound goes to the tv speakers, however, instead of using a screensaver i just kill the screen with a script that calls dkms to kill the power to the screen. when i use this script it reverts the sound back to the laptop19:37
glitchdid like the sound to stay on the tv so i can have it as background music for whatever im doing19:38
glitchdeven thou it doesnt display anything, thats fine19:38
glitchdouch just got cig ash in my eye..19:38
knomea tv is designed to be used to output both video and audio; basically you can't turn off the connection if you want audio out19:40
knomeyou get both19:40
glitchdknome, hmmm...no way around it?19:41
SpassI could be shooting blanks here, but what's your default output device in your sound preferences? this is a third tab in that settings window19:41
glitchdSpass, i have selected the hdmi to be the default, but the problem persists19:41
glitchdSpass, when i kill the screen it acts as if i unplugged the hdmi cable19:42
knomeglitchd, let me put it a different way... both signals are sent through the hdmi cable... if you tell the computer not to send any signal via hdmi, how could the audio signal get through?19:42
glitchdknome, dang, that makes much more sense19:43
knomeyou could send just black signal to the monitor... or you could buy a speaker that can take in the signal you want it to output19:44
knome(i understand "buy more hardware" isn't the answer you want, but...)19:44
glitchdknome, might not be the answer i was looking for, but no i understand why its happening19:45
knomeyour tv might have an option to turn video off but keep audio on19:45
glitchdknome, thank you19:45
glitchdand Spass thank you also19:45
knomeif you are looking for a long-term solution and don't mind a smallish hardware purchase, a bluetooth speaker (given that your laptop/pc has bluetooth) could be very well worth it in the long run19:46
glitchdknome, eh not enough of a problem to warrant a purchase19:47
glitchdif anything i could just switch to a terminal, thats almost the same a a blank screen19:48
glitchdand its funny that i just now thought of that19:49
glitchdno matter=)19:51
glitchdwould either of you know how i could get grub to display on my tv instead of only on the laptop?19:51
knomei think at that point the laptop display is always the primary display at that point, so i'm really not sure19:52
glitchdheres the weird part19:52
glitchdi have x86 installed on one partition and x64 installed on another. if i boot the x64 install, then reboot, grub shows on the tv, but not when i boot into and reboot from the x86 install19:53
glitchdthat makes me think its some setting again19:53
knomedid you install the other system when the external monitor was the primary one?19:54
glitchdi dont believe so19:55
knomeanyway, you can compare the lines starting with "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT" on /etc/default/grub19:55
glitchdknome, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" in both files19:58
knomethis idea is based on http://askubuntu.com/questions/712111/forcing-grub-menu-to-external-monitor-connected-to-laptop-via-hdmi-vga19:59
knomebut please note that this indeed makes the laptop not show grub if you aren't connected via that port19:59
glitchdwow..maybe i dont want it then20:00
glitchdthat could pose a problem...20:00
glitchdit just seems super weird that it shows on one install but not the other20:01
Spasswhat about this file? ~/.config/monitors.xml20:03
knomei'm pretty sure it's related to the primary monitor on install time20:03
Spassmaybe here is the difference20:03
knomegrub doesn't read your /home20:03
glitchdill check that file right now20:04
knomeyou'll just waste your time...20:05
SpassI will be quiet now :)20:05
knomeeven if grub accessed your file system, which it doesn't, it would have absolutely zero idea which /home directory it would read20:05
glitchdSpass, um..that file does not exist on either install20:05
Spassmaybe it's nvidia related, nevermind20:06
Spassstupid me20:06
knomeit can't be nvidia related either, as glitchd just said it's different per two installs on the same machine20:06
glitchdthats why its super weird20:07
glitchd16.04.1 for both20:07
knomei wouldn't say weird, it's likely just a grub configuration issue20:07
Spasswhat I mean was a monitor.xml file is related to nvidia20:07
glitchdthey are essentially the same, just different archs20:07
knomeSpass, it isn't, but it's not related to grub either :)20:08
glitchdthe x86 was installed first, then the x64 if that matters20:08
knomethere are many configuration files that don't need to exist if the default/automatical guess is working20:08
SpassI just though it may be somehow be considered when rebooting from a working system, but yeah... that thought wasn't smart20:09
glitchdand now that im thinking more about it, i believe i was using the big screen when i installed the x6420:09
knomethere you go20:09
glitchdhow can i track down what to change then?20:09
glitchdits not super essential, just something id like to change20:10
glitchdi keep my laptop almost all the way closed and its not right next to me so i have to get up, lift the screen then select the os, its just inconvenient is all20:11
glitchdand id like to change it if possible20:11
glitchdif i cant, i guess ill have to wait for 16.10 to come out and reinstall while using the big screen20:12
knomeagain, it's most likely grub configuration20:15
glitchdbut it seemed that both grub files were exactly the same except which partitions it was booting from20:17
glitchdwelp i think im done for today20:25
glitchdthanks again guys20:26
glitchdyour help is and was much appreciated20:26
glitchdill probably be back tomorrow to try and hash this out some more20:26
glitchduntil then,20:26
glitchdadios20:26
bladepipehow to boot using a gma500 card?22:36
bladepipexubuntu crashes with a gma500 card!22:36

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