[05:38] i need help [06:09] anyone know why .svg images wont diplay on icons in 16.04? [06:15] could it be a broken or misconfigured mime type? [06:24] anyone alive in here..? [08:02] is it possible to stop the system from switching sound devices when the screen saver activates? [08:15] does anyone respond to anything in here? wth?.. [08:28] hello? [08:28] yes, you are seen. [08:29] lol awesome then im just being ignored [08:29] thats cool [08:35] glitchd: or the people that would have an answer to your question arent here, just wait and eventually someone will show up [08:36] 'arent here' as in idling/afk [08:36] rightright [08:37] just never seem to get a response to nearly anything in here [08:42] how can i tell ubuntu not to switch sound devices when the screen saver/screen blank activates? === dreamon_ is now known as dreamon === Zren_ is now known as Zren [19:07] anytime i create a new image, weather its a jpg or a png, if i save it to the desktop the icon shows a gear with line through it. but if i clear the thumnail cache and logout/in, it displays fine. what could be the problem? [19:09] and its specific to if i save it to the desktop, if i save it to my home folder the icon displays fine. [19:12] glitchd: does pressing F5 on the desktop works? [19:12] Spass, ill check [19:13] Spass, wtf. yes! my god thats so much simpler [19:14] Spass, any idea why this happens? [19:14] what icon theme are you using? because my guess is that gear is just a default icon for PNG and JPG in that set, or it's broken [19:14] elementary i believe [19:16] elementary xfce darker to be exact [19:16] i also have another problem with this icon theme that ive been trying to solve [19:17] here is the link to a picture of the problem https://s21.postimg.org/y6fjyipgn/Untitled.jpg [19:17] the pictures category shows the same broken gear as the picture files did [19:18] i can be fixed with a different theme, but i like this theme so id like to keep it [19:18] yes, I tried to help you with this issue last time, but you went away [19:18] oh.. [19:19] i try not to overstay my welcome in these rooms [19:19] give me a sec, I will tell you what to do [19:19] Spass, thank you [19:23] ok, first, download this icon https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8qh4-wxxEZ7em81UWJOWmhNNDQ [19:24] Spass, got it [19:24] and save it in your main home folder (/home/your_username/image-x-generic.png) [19:25] done [19:26] then use this command in the terminal [19:26] sudo cp ~/image-x-generic.png /usr/share/icons/elementary-xfce/mimes/16/ [19:27] done [19:27] that's it [19:28] wow. [19:28] all the typing and asking ive done, and it was that simple [19:28] wth.. [19:28] dammit thank you [19:29] np [19:29] care to try your hand at another problem? [19:30] I don't know what's with that gear icons tho, I checked and I have proper PNG/JPG icons [19:30] but... I have the same problem with Thunar refreshing [19:30] meh [19:30] no biggie [19:30] but that wasnt what i was gonna ask [19:30] lol [19:30] I just must press F5 [19:31] the same thing is with extracting files for example, I must refresh to see the proper folder name of an extracted file [19:31] it could be a Thunar issue in Xubuntu 16.04 but I'm not sure [19:32] thats what i was thinking [19:32] just a problem in this release [19:32] as each release has somekind of stupid problem lol [19:33] i have a question regarding hdmi sound.. [19:33] glitchd, you are welcome to contribute and make sure those "stupid problems" do not slip out (: [19:34] knome, right on [19:34] knome, i help when i can [19:35] Spass, care to tackle this hdmi problem, maybe not a problem but a setting perhaps.. [19:36] I probably won't be a help with this, but just describe your problem here [19:36] ok [19:36] maybe someone will know how to solve it [19:37] my suggestion, when nobody replies, just minimize HexChat, and forget about it for some time, then come back and check [19:37] i use my 50" tv as my monitor. my sound goes to the tv speakers, however, instead of using a screensaver i just kill the screen with a script that calls dkms to kill the power to the screen. when i use this script it reverts the sound back to the laptop [19:38] id like the sound to stay on the tv so i can have it as background music for whatever im doing [19:38] even thou it doesnt display anything, thats fine [19:38] ouch just got cig ash in my eye.. [19:40] a tv is designed to be used to output both video and audio; basically you can't turn off the connection if you want audio out [19:40] you get both [19:41] knome, hmmm...no way around it? [19:41] I could be shooting blanks here, but what's your default output device in your sound preferences? this is a third tab in that settings window [19:41] Spass, i have selected the hdmi to be the default, but the problem persists [19:42] Spass, when i kill the screen it acts as if i unplugged the hdmi cable [19:42] glitchd, let me put it a different way... both signals are sent through the hdmi cable... if you tell the computer not to send any signal via hdmi, how could the audio signal get through? [19:43] knome, dang, that makes much more sense [19:44] you could send just black signal to the monitor... or you could buy a speaker that can take in the signal you want it to output [19:44] (i understand "buy more hardware" isn't the answer you want, but...) [19:45] knome, might not be the answer i was looking for, but no i understand why its happening [19:45] your tv might have an option to turn video off but keep audio on [19:45] knome, thank you [19:45] and Spass thank you also [19:46] if you are looking for a long-term solution and don't mind a smallish hardware purchase, a bluetooth speaker (given that your laptop/pc has bluetooth) could be very well worth it in the long run [19:47] knome, eh not enough of a problem to warrant a purchase [19:48] if anything i could just switch to a terminal, thats almost the same a a blank screen [19:49] and its funny that i just now thought of that [19:51] no matter=) [19:51] would either of you know how i could get grub to display on my tv instead of only on the laptop? [19:52] i think at that point the laptop display is always the primary display at that point, so i'm really not sure [19:52] heres the weird part [19:53] i have x86 installed on one partition and x64 installed on another. if i boot the x64 install, then reboot, grub shows on the tv, but not when i boot into and reboot from the x86 install [19:53] that makes me think its some setting again [19:54] did you install the other system when the external monitor was the primary one? [19:55] i dont believe so [19:55] anyway, you can compare the lines starting with "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT" on /etc/default/grub [19:58] knome, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" in both files [19:59] this idea is based on http://askubuntu.com/questions/712111/forcing-grub-menu-to-external-monitor-connected-to-laptop-via-hdmi-vga [19:59] but please note that this indeed makes the laptop not show grub if you aren't connected via that port [20:00] wow..maybe i dont want it then [20:00] that could pose a problem... [20:01] it just seems super weird that it shows on one install but not the other [20:03] what about this file? ~/.config/monitors.xml [20:03] i'm pretty sure it's related to the primary monitor on install time [20:03] maybe here is the difference [20:03] grub doesn't read your /home [20:04] ill check that file right now [20:05] you'll just waste your time... [20:05] I will be quiet now :) [20:05] even if grub accessed your file system, which it doesn't, it would have absolutely zero idea which /home directory it would read [20:05] Spass, um..that file does not exist on either install [20:06] maybe it's nvidia related, nevermind [20:06] stupid me [20:06] it can't be nvidia related either, as glitchd just said it's different per two installs on the same machine [20:07] thats why its super weird [20:07] 16.04.1 for both [20:07] i wouldn't say weird, it's likely just a grub configuration issue [20:07] what I mean was a monitor.xml file is related to nvidia [20:07] they are essentially the same, just different archs [20:08] Spass, it isn't, but it's not related to grub either :) [20:08] the x86 was installed first, then the x64 if that matters [20:08] there are many configuration files that don't need to exist if the default/automatical guess is working [20:09] I just though it may be somehow be considered when rebooting from a working system, but yeah... that thought wasn't smart [20:09] and now that im thinking more about it, i believe i was using the big screen when i installed the x64 [20:09] there you go [20:09] how can i track down what to change then? [20:10] its not super essential, just something id like to change [20:11] i keep my laptop almost all the way closed and its not right next to me so i have to get up, lift the screen then select the os, its just inconvenient is all [20:11] and id like to change it if possible [20:12] if i cant, i guess ill have to wait for 16.10 to come out and reinstall while using the big screen [20:15] again, it's most likely grub configuration [20:17] but it seemed that both grub files were exactly the same except which partitions it was booting from [20:25] welp i think im done for today [20:26] thanks again guys [20:26] your help is and was much appreciated [20:26] ill probably be back tomorrow to try and hash this out some more [20:26] until then, [20:26] adios [22:36] how to boot using a gma500 card? [22:36] xubuntu crashes with a gma500 card!