[05:38] <xubuntu45w> i need help
[06:09] <glitchd> anyone know why .svg images wont diplay on icons in 16.04?
[06:15] <glitchd> could it be a broken or misconfigured mime type?
[06:24] <glitchd> anyone alive in here..?
[08:02] <glitchd> is it possible to stop the system from switching sound devices when the screen saver activates?
[08:15] <glitchd> does anyone respond to anything in here? wth?..
[08:28] <glitchd> hello?
[08:28] <cfhowlett> yes, you are seen.
[08:29] <glitchd> lol awesome then im just being ignored
[08:29] <glitchd> thats cool
[08:35] <Furkiepurkie> glitchd: or the people that would have an answer to your question arent here, just wait and eventually someone will show up
[08:36] <Furkiepurkie> 'arent here' as in idling/afk
[08:36] <glitchd> rightright
[08:37] <glitchd> just never seem to get a response to nearly anything in here
[08:42] <glitchd> how can i tell ubuntu not to switch sound devices when the screen saver/screen blank activates?
[19:07] <glitchd> anytime i create a new image, weather its a jpg or a png, if i save it to the desktop the icon shows a gear with line through it. but if i clear the thumnail cache and logout/in, it displays fine. what could be the problem?
[19:09] <glitchd> and its specific to if i save it to the desktop, if i save it to my home folder the icon displays fine.
[19:12] <Spass> glitchd: does pressing F5 on the desktop works?
[19:12] <glitchd> Spass, ill check
[19:13] <glitchd> Spass, wtf. yes! my god thats so much simpler
[19:14] <glitchd> Spass, any idea why this happens?
[19:14] <Spass> what icon theme are you using? because my guess is that gear is just a default icon for PNG and JPG in that set, or it's broken
[19:14] <glitchd> elementary i believe
[19:16] <glitchd> elementary xfce darker to be exact
[19:16] <glitchd> i also have another problem with this icon theme that ive been trying to solve
[19:17] <glitchd> here is the link to a picture of the problem https://s21.postimg.org/y6fjyipgn/Untitled.jpg
[19:17] <glitchd> the pictures category shows the same broken gear as the picture files did
[19:18] <glitchd> i can be fixed with a different theme, but i like this theme so id like to keep it
[19:18] <Spass> yes, I tried to help you with this issue last time, but you went away
[19:18] <glitchd> oh..
[19:19] <glitchd> i try not to overstay my welcome in these rooms
[19:19] <Spass> give me a sec, I will tell you what to do
[19:19] <glitchd> Spass, thank you
[19:23] <Spass> ok, first, download this icon https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8qh4-wxxEZ7em81UWJOWmhNNDQ
[19:24] <glitchd> Spass, got it
[19:24] <Spass> and save it in your main home folder (/home/your_username/image-x-generic.png)
[19:25] <glitchd> done
[19:26] <Spass> then use this command in the terminal
[19:26] <Spass> sudo cp ~/image-x-generic.png /usr/share/icons/elementary-xfce/mimes/16/
[19:27] <glitchd> done
[19:27] <Spass> that's it
[19:28] <glitchd> wow.
[19:28] <glitchd> all the typing and asking ive done, and it was that simple
[19:28] <glitchd> wth..
[19:28] <glitchd> dammit thank you
[19:29] <Spass> np
[19:29] <glitchd> care to try your hand at another problem?
[19:30] <Spass> I don't know what's with that gear icons tho, I checked and I have proper PNG/JPG icons
[19:30] <Spass> but... I have the same problem with Thunar refreshing
[19:30] <glitchd> meh
[19:30] <glitchd> no biggie
[19:30] <glitchd> but that wasnt what i was gonna ask
[19:30] <glitchd> lol
[19:30] <Spass> I just must press F5
[19:31] <Spass> the same thing is with extracting files for example, I must refresh to see the proper folder name of an extracted file
[19:31] <Spass> it could be a Thunar issue in Xubuntu 16.04 but I'm not sure
[19:32] <glitchd> thats what i was thinking
[19:32] <glitchd> just a problem in this release
[19:32] <glitchd> as each release has somekind of stupid problem lol
[19:33] <glitchd> i have a question regarding hdmi sound..
[19:33] <knome> glitchd, you are welcome to contribute and make sure those "stupid problems" do not slip out (:
[19:34] <glitchd> knome, right on
[19:34] <glitchd> knome, i help when i can
[19:35] <glitchd> Spass, care to tackle this hdmi problem, maybe not a problem but a setting perhaps..
[19:36] <Spass> I probably won't be a help with this, but just describe your problem here
[19:36] <glitchd> ok
[19:36] <Spass> maybe someone will know how to solve it
[19:37] <Spass> my suggestion, when nobody replies, just minimize HexChat, and forget about it for some time, then come back and check
[19:37] <glitchd> i use my 50" tv as my monitor. my sound goes to the tv speakers, however, instead of using a screensaver i just kill the screen with a script that calls dkms to kill the power to the screen. when i use this script it reverts the sound back to the laptop
[19:38] <glitchd> id like the sound to stay on the tv so i can have it as background music for whatever im doing
[19:38] <glitchd> even thou it doesnt display anything, thats fine
[19:38] <glitchd> ouch just got cig ash in my eye..
[19:40] <knome> a tv is designed to be used to output both video and audio; basically you can't turn off the connection if you want audio out
[19:40] <knome> you get both
[19:41] <glitchd> knome, hmmm...no way around it?
[19:41] <Spass> I could be shooting blanks here, but what's your default output device in your sound preferences? this is a third tab in that settings window
[19:41] <glitchd> Spass, i have selected the hdmi to be the default, but the problem persists
[19:42] <glitchd> Spass, when i kill the screen it acts as if i unplugged the hdmi cable
[19:42] <knome> glitchd, let me put it a different way... both signals are sent through the hdmi cable... if you tell the computer not to send any signal via hdmi, how could the audio signal get through?
[19:43] <glitchd> knome, dang, that makes much more sense
[19:44] <knome> you could send just black signal to the monitor... or you could buy a speaker that can take in the signal you want it to output
[19:44] <knome> (i understand "buy more hardware" isn't the answer you want, but...)
[19:45] <glitchd> knome, might not be the answer i was looking for, but no i understand why its happening
[19:45] <knome> your tv might have an option to turn video off but keep audio on
[19:45] <glitchd> knome, thank you
[19:45] <glitchd> and Spass thank you also
[19:46] <knome> if you are looking for a long-term solution and don't mind a smallish hardware purchase, a bluetooth speaker (given that your laptop/pc has bluetooth) could be very well worth it in the long run
[19:47] <glitchd> knome, eh not enough of a problem to warrant a purchase
[19:48] <glitchd> if anything i could just switch to a terminal, thats almost the same a a blank screen
[19:49] <glitchd> and its funny that i just now thought of that
[19:51] <glitchd> no matter=)
[19:51] <glitchd> would either of you know how i could get grub to display on my tv instead of only on the laptop?
[19:52] <knome> i think at that point the laptop display is always the primary display at that point, so i'm really not sure
[19:52] <glitchd> heres the weird part
[19:53] <glitchd> i have x86 installed on one partition and x64 installed on another. if i boot the x64 install, then reboot, grub shows on the tv, but not when i boot into and reboot from the x86 install
[19:53] <glitchd> that makes me think its some setting again
[19:54] <knome> did you install the other system when the external monitor was the primary one?
[19:55] <glitchd> i dont believe so
[19:55] <knome> anyway, you can compare the lines starting with "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT" on /etc/default/grub
[19:58] <glitchd> knome, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" in both files
[19:59] <knome> this idea is based on http://askubuntu.com/questions/712111/forcing-grub-menu-to-external-monitor-connected-to-laptop-via-hdmi-vga
[19:59] <knome> but please note that this indeed makes the laptop not show grub if you aren't connected via that port
[20:00] <glitchd> wow..maybe i dont want it then
[20:00] <glitchd> that could pose a problem...
[20:01] <glitchd> it just seems super weird that it shows on one install but not the other
[20:03] <Spass> what about this file? ~/.config/monitors.xml
[20:03] <knome> i'm pretty sure it's related to the primary monitor on install time
[20:03] <Spass> maybe here is the difference
[20:03] <knome> grub doesn't read your /home
[20:04] <glitchd> ill check that file right now
[20:05] <knome> you'll just waste your time...
[20:05] <Spass> I will be quiet now :)
[20:05] <knome> even if grub accessed your file system, which it doesn't, it would have absolutely zero idea which /home directory it would read
[20:05] <glitchd> Spass, um..that file does not exist on either install
[20:06] <Spass> maybe it's nvidia related, nevermind
[20:06] <Spass> stupid me
[20:06] <knome> it can't be nvidia related either, as glitchd just said it's different per two installs on the same machine
[20:07] <glitchd> thats why its super weird
[20:07] <glitchd> 16.04.1 for both
[20:07] <knome> i wouldn't say weird, it's likely just a grub configuration issue
[20:07] <Spass> what I mean was a monitor.xml file is related to nvidia
[20:07] <glitchd> they are essentially the same, just different archs
[20:08] <knome> Spass, it isn't, but it's not related to grub either :)
[20:08] <glitchd> the x86 was installed first, then the x64 if that matters
[20:08] <knome> there are many configuration files that don't need to exist if the default/automatical guess is working
[20:09] <Spass> I just though it may be somehow be considered when rebooting from a working system, but yeah... that thought wasn't smart
[20:09] <glitchd> and now that im thinking more about it, i believe i was using the big screen when i installed the x64
[20:09] <knome> there you go
[20:09] <glitchd> how can i track down what to change then?
[20:10] <glitchd> its not super essential, just something id like to change
[20:11] <glitchd> i keep my laptop almost all the way closed and its not right next to me so i have to get up, lift the screen then select the os, its just inconvenient is all
[20:11] <glitchd> and id like to change it if possible
[20:12] <glitchd> if i cant, i guess ill have to wait for 16.10 to come out and reinstall while using the big screen
[20:15] <knome> again, it's most likely grub configuration
[20:17] <glitchd> but it seemed that both grub files were exactly the same except which partitions it was booting from
[20:25] <glitchd> welp i think im done for today
[20:26] <glitchd> thanks again guys
[20:26] <glitchd> your help is and was much appreciated
[20:26] <glitchd> ill probably be back tomorrow to try and hash this out some more
[20:26] <glitchd> until then,
[20:26] <glitchd> adios
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[22:36] <bladepipe> xubuntu crashes with a gma500 card!