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[01:05] <ahoneybun> mm now this monitor is stuck at 1024x768..
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[02:34] <ahoneybun> what is kickoff called in bugs.kde.org?
[02:34] <ahoneybun> kicker?
[02:39] <valorie> launcher?
[02:39] <valorie> all those names are just confusing
[02:39] <ahoneybun> yea
[02:39] <ahoneybun> I'm trying to move favorites around but it not moving them to the right place
[02:40] <valorie> I think Launcher covers all the alternatives
[02:40] <ahoneybun> I've had to move to another one as that is bugging me
[02:40] <ahoneybun> trying to file a bug 
[02:41] <ahoneybun> there is no Launcher option
[02:41] <valorie> :(
[02:41] <ahoneybun> there are way too many projects
[02:41] <valorie> you could ask in #plasma but .....
[02:41] <ahoneybun> *products
[02:42] <ahoneybun> but what?
[02:42] <ahoneybun> Eruo time?
[02:42] <valorie> well, KDE is huge
[02:42] <valorie> yes, most asleep
[02:42] <valorie> you never know, someone could have trouble sleeping
[02:42] <ahoneybun> mm
[02:42] <ahoneybun> valorie: I'm just saying you could make it easier to narrow it down
[02:43] <valorie> for sure
[02:43] <valorie> and some of the names are really weird, and unguessable
[02:43] <valorie> however, Ubuntu does the same thing
[02:44] <ahoneybun> I mean this: http://imgur.com/a/ae8WF
[02:44] <ahoneybun> Status and Product 
[02:44] <ahoneybun> that's it
[02:44] <ahoneybun> could divide it up by "Plasma: "Apps:" and "Frameworks:"
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[06:29] <lordievader> Good morning
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[06:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[08:31] <jimarvan> aaaand good morning! :D
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[09:26] <acheronuk> Morning :)
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[10:59] <BluesKaj-pi> Hiyas all
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[11:58] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> Good morning everyone
[11:58] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> Good news from here
[11:59] <soee> o/
[11:59] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> 1. I'm getting my good internet connection back
[12:01] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> 2. The gcc6 patches for fw 5.24 are still valid and they are no other build failures according to the test rebuild I made yesterday
[12:01] <mamarley> Yay!
[12:01] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> So I will send that mail to kubuntu-devel as soon as I can
[12:06] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @Santa, I await mail then :)
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[12:16] <jimarvan> no podcast tomorrow? :(
[12:16] <jimarvan> daaamn :<
[12:17] <acheronuk> nope. a week tomorrow
[12:26] <jimarvan> aaa :D
[12:26] <jimarvan> awesome
[13:44] <soee> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.7.5.php
[13:45] <acheronuk> I bet people want that as well? ^^^ lol
[13:46] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> We could work on that in the gaps of time we will get fw 5.26
[13:47] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> Btw I Spoke too soon, my internet is not back (yet)
[13:47] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> But 2. Is still true, I'm about to send that mail
[13:47] <acheronuk> how do you keep losing it? problem with provider?
[13:53] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @Santa, yes, I can stage that in advance and then rebuild for new frameworks. It's small changes on top of 5.7.4 which I've alreday done, and would be doing that with anywar
[13:59] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> Mail sent
[14:00] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> The thing with my internet connection is that I had to shut it off the last month because I moved from one city to another in most of august
[14:00] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> So they didn't restored it yet
[14:01] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> But I have the phone
[14:02] <acheronuk> annoying. got the email BTW
[14:03] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> I expect it to have it back in less than 48 hours
[14:03] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> But I don't know exactly when
[14:04] <petersaints>  I guys, I recently noticed that KDE Plasma 5.7, Applications 16.04 and Frameworks 5.24 have landed on the backports-landing PPA. Is testing going well, i.e. do you expect to move those packages to the backports PPA soon? Or are there major issues stopping you from doing so?
[14:06] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @Santa, Do you mean you have mobile internet you can use with a laptop etc, but that is unrelable? or literally just a phone with internet now?
[14:06] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> It's reliable on the phone
[14:07] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> But it didn't work very well on laptop yesterday
[14:08] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @Santa, Ok, I'll ask another way. can you ssh into a container and do a packaging session with maybe audio via bigbluebutton?
[14:08] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> I can ssh
[14:08] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> or will you have to wait until you get your normal connection for that?
[14:08] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> But no audio
[14:09] <acheronuk> petersaints: I will answer in a few mins, ok
[14:09] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> I think with ssh and irc/telegram we can do the thing
[14:09] <petersaints> acheronuk: Yeah. No pressure ;)
[14:10] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @Santa, If need be, yes. It's a bit clunky/slow but can be done. We shall see.
[14:11] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> Ok, in any case can we get 1. and 2. from the proposed plan done?
[14:13] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @Santa, Can't see why not
[14:13] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> 👍
[14:18] <acheronuk> petersaints: (1) the Xenial backports needs more QA and some rebuilds of a few QT/non-kubuntu packages from the archive added so the backported QT doesn't break too many non kubuntu things you may want to install (2) we are working on Yakkety which has it's bet freeze coming up, so getting things done for that is priority (3) we are staging plasma 5.7.4/5 for yakkety and frameworks maybe, so it would make sense to have 
[14:18] <acheronuk> thsoe in the Xenial backports once they are done on YY (4) Plasma 5.8 LTS is less than one month away from release with lots of improvement and fixes for multi-monitor support, and as an LTS taht would match Xenial backports nicely. So this late in the day there is an argument for just waiting and going for that. We will want it if possible in due time anyway.
[14:19] <acheronuk> sorry for typos
[14:30] <petersaints> acheronuk: It's basically what I expected. This release has been far harder to backport because the minimum Qt version is higher than the one that shipped with Xenial, if it wasn't for that I'm sure that you could have released it much much faster. Still, I'm afraid that there has been many people that just jumped ship to KDE Neon, which in my case is something that I'll never want to do since they'll keep the same Ubuntu
[14:32] <acheronuk> petersaints: a bit unavoidable as things are, yes. especially as Neon can bump their QT and choose not to care about some of the breakages that may cause to non kde things in the ubuntu archive
[14:33] <petersaints> In fact, having a fixed system base for so long it's also something I dislike about Linux Mint (they used to change their base with every Ubuntu release but they now stick with the latest LTS). I like to have an overall up to date system without the level of risk and breakage that may happen on rolling release, so the 6 months cycle offered by Ubuntu seems a good compromise for me :P
[14:34] <acheronuk> it suits me as well upgrading every 6 months
[14:34] <petersaints> acheronuk: Sure. KDE Neon is not a distro. It's just a KDE "shop window" to show off their latest stuff.
[14:36] <acheronuk> many don't get the distinction though. or at least, not at first or until after that has lept. after all, there are many spins and derivatives out there (ubuntu included), so you can be excused thinking that with Neon if you don't know the exact details
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[16:11] <jimarvan> see ya guys :)
[17:53] <mhall119> sitter: ping, I wrote a blog post about using the content sharing interface, and I want to see if it will work for sharing KDE frameworks or if there is something that needs to added/changed for you
[18:01] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @mhall119, Nice. http://mhall119.com/2016/09/sharing-is-caring-with-snaps/
[18:02] <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Look for sitter in #kde-neon mhall119
[18:07] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> I'm off o/
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[18:40] <santa_> good evening
[18:41] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @santa_, Evening :)
[18:45] <santa_> acheronuk: do we have qt backports for xenial? if so, where?
[18:47] <acheronuk> Qt 5.6.1, yes. There are enough of the Qt stack in some of the landing and staging ppas to build kde, and ubuntu has a fuller set in one of their ppas silos
[18:49] <acheronuk> There's also Qt 5.7.0 in the KCI unstable
[19:15] <mhall119> thanks ahoneybun 
[19:16] <ahoneybun> np
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[19:56] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[20:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[20:12] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk so when do we migrate Qt 5.7.1 to Back ports?
[20:12] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> *Backports
[20:12] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Autocorrect :/
[20:13] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk When it's a dep or when it's available?
[20:17] <acheronuk> Qt 5.6.x should be ok for anything xenial, as Plasma 5.8 is committed to staying at 5.6.x for a build dep. And mostly if not completely the same for FW and apps that might be used with it.
[20:17] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Well plasma 5.7 deps on 5.5
[20:17] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Xenial has 5.5, Yakkety 5.6
[20:18] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> We'll need to bump it eventually
[20:18] <acheronuk> plasma 5.7 is Qt 5.6 dep, which is what we had to backport
[20:18] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> ...no?
[20:18] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> /me checks release notes
[20:19] <acheronuk> yes. big reason why xenial hasn't got it yet!
[20:22] <acheronuk> santa_: is there a reason you think 5.7 is crucial?
[20:23] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Oh I'm stupid
[20:23] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Ic
[20:23] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-workspace.git&a=commit&h=603d1189c3bbeccccbcc95f4ef44858f04674771
[20:24] <acheronuk> santa_: unless it's crucial I suspect Qt 5.7 may be low priority for a backport for now
[20:25] <santa_> acheronuk: 5.6.1 is good enough, I think
[20:25] <acheronuk> to be used in backport ppa I mean
[20:26] <acheronuk> we have the benefit in 5.6.1 of the ubuntu qt/touch devs having tried and tested their own backport which we can 'borrow'
[20:27] <santa_> acheronuk: my idea is building fw 5.26 both for yakkety and xenial at the same time to reduce kubuntu_unstable breakage
[20:27] <santa_> so I might do some experiments here in my "area 51"
[20:28] <acheronuk> that is doable. as long as we get the YY done in time
[20:28] <santa_> but right now I'm preparing the ppas to show why the gcc6 patches are needed
[20:29] <acheronuk> That's ok. I keep getting bothered this end and distracted!
[20:29] <santa_> if you are still awake when I'm done with my stuff I could tell you what to do with 5.26
[20:30] <acheronuk> you have an ETA?
[20:31] <santa_> I hope less than 2 hours but I can't promise anything
[20:35] <acheronuk> ok. we shall see
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[21:05] <Guest65602> I could have sworn we voted on 14.04 to be a 3 year LTS, am I mistaken on this?
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[21:09] <claydoh> or is my memory completely shot?
[21:11] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[21:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[21:12] <acheronuk> claydoh: trying to find in mailing list. lol
[21:13] <claydoh> I was there for the discussion in irc iirc but can't find the data
[21:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[21:14] <acheronuk> claydoh: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2014-February/002797.html
[21:15] <claydoh> mkay my memory is faulty for sure
[21:17] <claydoh> I could have sworn we chose 3 years due to the move to Plasma 5
[21:18] <claydoh> but swearing doesn't get any one anywhere :D
[21:18] <acheronuk> claydoh: I'm looking for the IRC log now? In here? Or did you do it in another channel?
[21:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_discover build #18: STILL FAILING in 6 min 49 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_discover/18/
[21:19] <claydoh> prob in  here but no idea when, I see  nothing in the mailing list archive just yet
[21:20] <acheronuk> must have been between the 21st Feb and 27th on those email dates
[21:22] <mamarley> acheronuk: Just installed 5.7.5; working great!
[21:22] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> *5* ?!?!?
[21:22] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @ac
[21:22] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> argh
[21:23] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk I thought you staged 5.7.4?
[21:24] <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Neon might have it
[21:24] <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @tsimonq2
[21:24] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> I thought you blocked me @ahoneybun :P
[21:24] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @tsimonq2, Both
[21:24] <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> on personal messages
[21:25] <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> not here... yet
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[21:25] <mamarley> tsimonq2: 5.7.4 is so 2 days ago. :D
[21:26] <claydoh> acheronuk:  no m y whole memory of things is just shot to heck. badly. 
[21:26] <tsimonq2> O__O
[21:27] <acheronuk> claydoh: mine can be flaky
[21:27] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: need help staging?
[21:27] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: let's stage 5.7.5 :P
[21:29] <claydoh> acheronuk: I probably combined Trusty, Xenial, and even Precise in my wee brain
[21:30] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @tsimonq2, going to see what FW 5.256 needs with Santa later
[21:30] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> *5.26
[21:31] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk so the process you followed...is that somewhere?
[21:34] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Sorry. KDE IRC BNC seems to be having probs
[21:36] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk how do I get a BNC? :O
[21:37] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @tsimonq2, Talk nicely to valorie
[21:38] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> valorie, my beautiful angel saint, could I have the honor of being bestowed with a KDE BNC?
[21:38] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk good enough? lol
[21:39] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> She might sponsor you..... or kick you
[21:39] <tsimonq2> hah
[21:40] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk can she just get me a BNC or is it a perk of being a member?
[21:40] <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> a bouncer?
[21:41] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk, @ahoneybun this
[21:41] <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> it's a bouncer
[21:41] <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> IRC bouncer
[21:41] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> ooh
[21:41] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> fancy
[21:42] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> /me kicks wxl and yells WEECHAT
[21:42] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @tsimonq2, If she will sponsor your request, you make the request here https://go.kde.org/u/systickets
[21:42] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> I'll wait until she's around and agrees
[21:43] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> I hope my kind words didn't make her mean :P
[21:47]  * tsimonq2 pokes wxl with a long, 1,723 mile stick
[21:49] <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Valorie?
[21:49] <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> /me has his own on his server
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[22:18] <acheronuk> test
[22:18] <acheronuk> KDE BNC seem back
[22:18]  * genii makes coffee
[22:19] <santa_> acheronuk: bluez-qt merge request https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/kubuntu-packaging/+git/bluez-qt/+merge/305666
[22:19] <santa_> so we would need 4 uploads, not 5
[22:20] <acheronuk> ok
[22:24] <acheronuk> santa_: done
[22:30] <santa_> acheronuk: thank you very much
[22:30] <santa_> sgclark: around?
[22:30] <tsimonq2> santa_: fix Akonadi
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[22:30] <tsimonq2> and I'll give you a gold star :D
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[22:30] <santa_> tsimonq2: git/kubuntu_unstable ?
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[22:31] <acheronuk> show us how to would be better
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[22:31] <acheronuk> explain
[22:31] <valorie> wow, what was up with kde bnc?
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[22:31]  * valorie was off at a doctor's office (just routine)
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[22:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[22:32] <acheronuk> santa_: still want to look at FW 5.26 now?
[22:32] <santa_> acheronuk: better tomorrow if possible
[22:33] <santa_> I wil try to schedule some things to test so I would get the results tomorrow and I could explain you the thing after some sleep
[22:34] <santa_> I really need to sleep
[22:34] <acheronuk> santa_: not a problem
[22:34] <valorie> sweet dreams, santa_
[22:34] <santa_> had trouble yesterday, so...
[22:34] <santa_> thanks valorie
[22:34] <santa_> btw I sent the doodle poll
[22:34] <tsimonq2> santa_: yes sireee
[22:34] <tsimonq2> santa_: symbols
[22:35] <santa_> not sure if it's the best moment given the situation of a couple of KC members
[22:35] <tsimonq2> santa_: if you push it to a public repo I'll merge, as long as you promise to fix it if what you did broke it
[22:35] <tsimonq2> JUST akonadi
[22:35] <valorie> well, we've had meetings with only 3 KC members, and the rest vote by email
[22:35] <valorie> it will be find
[22:35] <valorie> fine
[22:36] <tsimonq2> I'll look it over first santa_ but otherwise yeah
[22:36] <santa_> tsimonq2: ok, I will try to dig into akonadi tomorrow, but 5.26 preparation has higher priority
[22:36] <tsimonq2> I see, ok
[22:36] <santa_> thanks for the info valorie
[22:36] <acheronuk> we can do other informally whenever it can be fit in
[22:38] <tsimonq2> valorie: my beautiful angel saint, have you considered my request? :P
[22:38] <acheronuk> may have missed it if the kde BNC was down
[22:39] <valorie> I think I can look on telegram, min
[22:39] <tsimonq2> lol
[22:39] <valorie> just got home
[22:39] <valorie> and coffee is needed
[22:39] <tsimonq2> genii prepared some eralier I think?
[22:39] <tsimonq2> *earlier
[22:40] <acheronuk> valorie: sponsor Simon for a kde BNC
[22:40]  * genii rushes valorie a fresh mug
[22:40] <acheronuk> was the request
[22:41] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: she needs to see my overabundant complimenting :P
[22:41] <acheronuk> I was going to say crawling, but refrained :P
[22:42] <valorie> tsimonq2: are you planning to do some work in KDE itself?
[22:42] <valorie> if so, I'll gladly do so
[22:42] <valorie> so, step one: make a KDE identity at identity.kde.org
[22:43] <valorie> step two, file a ticket asking for a BNC account and put my name as supporter
[22:44] <valorie> mention packaging qtwebkit with Debian, and ask for oftc too on the bnc account 
[22:44] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: huh? lol
[22:45] <acheronuk> hmmm. I was going to do more directly with KDE if I could, but gotta bit sidetracked.
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[22:45] <tsimonq2> valorie: then it's going to wait a few months
[22:45]  * tsimonq2 actually edits the topic this time
[22:45] <valorie> it won't since you've already done that work, tsimonq2
[22:46] <valorie> you are packaging KDE packages, for starters
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[22:46] <valorie> imo it is always good to get involved upstream, no matter what upstream you are speaking of
[22:47] <valorie> heh
[22:47] <valorie> topic does have a hard char. limit
[22:47] <acheronuk> and you will do more. just doing CI I've pointed out several errors causing a build failure to the kde devs
[22:47] <acheronuk> and bugs
[22:47] <tsimonq2> argh
[22:47] <valorie> and sometimes they are fixed in minutes!
[22:47] <tsimonq2> valorie: do we have a KDE link shortener?
[22:47] <valorie> when the universe aligns
[22:47] <valorie> yes, phabricator has one
[22:48] <valorie> that's what the neon chan uses
[22:48] <acheronuk> there's all sorts of goodies in phabricator
[22:48] <tsimonq2> where valorie?
[22:49] <acheronuk> https://phabricator.kde.org/applications/
[22:49] <acheronuk> https://phabricator.kde.org/phurl/
[22:52] <acheronuk> But only community admins can edit add them it seems
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[22:53] <tsimonq2> hey that works
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