[00:55] <bluesabre> evening all
[06:10] <ochosi> bluesabre: conveniently ignored all my pings, eh? :)
[06:11] <Unit193> I know. :(
[06:11] <flocculant> hi ochosi 
[06:24] <flocculant> ochosi: pinged seb - blaming you :p
[06:29] <flocculant> and he threw the ball - I should have thought about Mathieu :)
[06:33] <flocculant> bluesabre: assuming you've got yak installed - have you tried webcam/mugshot?
[06:46] <nairwolf> hi flocculant 
[06:46] <nairwolf> webcam with mugshot works ? 
[06:46] <nairwolf> I haven't found the button to take a photo with the webcam
[06:48] <flocculant> yea - it's disabled - hence asking bluesabre - who's going to know what he did to disable it - and re-enable it and test it :)
[06:48] <nairwolf> oh, ok
[06:50] <flocculant> nairwolf: your ubiquity/create partition box has been handed over to canonical now btw
[06:50] <nairwolf> thank you. I'm reading logs from yesterday, right now. I've seen builds are come back in the tracker ;)
[06:50] <flocculant> yup
[06:51] <nairwolf> flocculant: yeah, I've seen that
[06:51] <nairwolf> But nobody confirmed what I've seen on Libreoffice Calc ? 
[06:51] <flocculant> nope
[06:51] <nairwolf> I need to confirm it again
[07:12] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: admin on -testers so you can contact members 
[07:19] <nairwolf> ochosi: for the bug with the partition box, you said you have created a patch ? But it's not on the build, right ? 
[07:20] <nairwolf> flocculant: do you know if someone is in charged of this bug : 1622303
[07:20] <nairwolf> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1622303
[07:20] <nairwolf> Because, this is really annoying, don't you think ?
[07:20] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-docs:: [yakkety] r619 Launchpad automatic translations update. (by Launchpad Translations on behalf of ubuntu-core-doc)
[07:22] <flocculant> bluesabre is looking at it
[07:22] <nairwolf> ok
[07:23] <nairwolf> ochosi said "flocculant: btw, in the future pls add these bugs to the bugs blueprint". Does it talk about this http://dev.xubuntu.org/#tab-details/spec=xubuntu-y-bugs ?
[07:23] <flocculant> yes
[07:24] <nairwolf> But, I'm not sure I can add anything
[07:24] <nairwolf> oh, this is done from this page ? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-y-bugs
[07:25] <flocculant> yes
[07:25] <flocculant> but - please don't randomly add things to it
[07:25] <flocculant> has to be confirmed
[07:25] <flocculant> has to be something that Xubuntu can fix
[07:27] <nairwolf> ok
[07:28] <nairwolf> And this one is not related to Xubuntu ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker/+bug/1622303
[07:29] <nairwolf> oh, no, it's light-locker
[07:29] <flocculant> someone's looking at it - and it's on the bug list too
[07:29] <flocculant> yea - I changed it recently after talking to Sean
[07:29] <flocculant> bbl
[07:30] <nairwolf> I don't see this bug on dev.xubuntu.org
[07:31] <flocculant> not real-time updating
[07:31] <nairwolf> ok ;)
[07:31] <flocculant> off now
[07:49] <nairwolf> light-locker is not from xfce ? 
[07:49] <nairwolf> where is from ? 
[07:49] <nairwolf> Does xfce has a something equivalent to light-locker ? 
[08:16] <nairwolf> I still have the bug issue with libreoffice calc : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1622260
[08:16] <nairwolf> I need to try this with Ubuntu
[08:41] <nairwolf> where is from the command 'umount' ? 
[08:41] <nairwolf> I've seen something related to umount
[08:43] <nairwolf> If you have an usb key called 'Xubuntu 16.16 amd64', usually, when you type 'umount /media/' then tab. You should have the autocompletion 'umount /media/nairwolf/Xubuntu 16.10 amd64'. But I haven't. It stops to 'umount /media/nairwolf/Xubuntu'
[09:17] <knome> nairwolf, what does 'ls /media/nairwolf' say?
[09:32] <bluesabre> ochosi, certainly wasn't intentional
[09:33] <bluesabre> ochosi, that patch looks easy enough for the ubuntu folks to review and include
[09:36] <nairwolf> knome: Xubuntu 16.10 amd64
[09:36] <nairwolf> I've sent an email to explain that
[09:36] <nairwolf> I'm downloading Ubuntu Yakkety to test it
[09:39] <bluesabre> Unit193, for elementary-xfce-icon-theme and xubuntu-icon-theme, what would be the best way to have "elementary-xfce-icon-theme" and for each to set the distributor logo?
[09:44] <bluesabre> Unit193, perhaps it would be unset in "elementary-xfce-icon-theme" and there would be additional conflicting packages generated "-generic", "-xubuntu", "-mythbuntu", etc that set it?
[11:03] <nairwolf> knome: I can confirm the auto-completion bug with Ubuntu
[11:03] <nairwolf> But, I'm unable to confirm the one with libreoffice. 
[11:05] <flocculant> bluesabre: good morning :)
[11:18] <ochosi> flocculant: thanks!
[11:18] <flocculant> ochosi: welcome :)
[11:20] <nairwolf> I've reported this bug on the tracker : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/1622987
[11:21] <flocculant> nairwolf: maybe ask in #ubuntu-bugs what to report it against, might even find that someone knows an existing bug for that umount issue
[11:21] <nairwolf> it's not related to Xubuntu
[11:21] <nairwolf> we were synchronized ;)
[11:21] <flocculant> or not 
[11:21] <nairwolf> Good idea ;)
[11:21] <nairwolf> By the way, I couldn't reproduce the bug with Libreoffice Calc on Ubuntu
[11:22] <nairwolf> but I've seen it again with the daily build
[11:22] <nairwolf> I know you were unable to see it flocculant...
[11:22] <nairwolf> I'm wondering why...
[11:22] <flocculant> ochosi: I'll try and catch Mathieu later today re that 
[11:22] <flocculant> need to try and catch stgraber too :p
[11:24] <flocculant> bbl
[11:32] <ochosi> cool, ty
[11:53] <sakrecoer> Unit193, bluesabre: i'm not to clear about your issue, but if it can help some how, we do have this for the distribution logo: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-icon-theme/trunk
[17:23] <Unit193> bluesabre: tl;dr of compat 10: --with autoreconf, --with systemd and --parallel by default.
[18:04] <flocculant> cyphermox: you about ?
[18:15] <cyphermox> yes
[18:18] <flocculant> cyphermox: quick ubiquity issue - not sure if you saaw pings in -desktop from ~12 hours ago
[18:19] <flocculant> basically > https://launchpadlibrarian.net/283994776/ubiquity.png
[18:19] <flocculant> for which ochosi has done mp on bug 1622258
[18:34] <cyphermox> yup I merged in this change already
[18:35] <cyphermox> looks like I uploaded it too
[18:35] <cyphermox> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/16.10.11
[18:38] <ochosi> awesome, thanks cyphermox!
[18:38] <nairwolf> cyphermox: thank you for the merge ;) 
[18:38] <nairwolf> So, it should be in the daily build tomorrow, right ? 
[18:41] <cyphermox> yeah, most likely
[18:41] <cyphermox> it's currently in proposed, I expect it will make it to -release soonish
[18:43] <flocculant> cyphermox: awesome :)
[18:43] <Unit193> Oh bah, now I have to make a new VM.
[18:43] <flocculant> Unit193: ha 
[18:44] <ochosi> well i'll be happy if that one is fixed. the progressbar issue is less of a problem
[18:45] <Unit193> I'm, uh, actually testing to see if another bug in that is fixed. :P
[18:45] <nairwolf> Unit193: which another bug ? 
[18:57] <Unit193> nairwolf: Crashing installer.
[18:57] <nairwolf> Oh, I haven't seen that
[18:57] <Unit193> Wouldn't, it's only Xubuntu Core.
[18:57] <nairwolf> oh, ok
[18:58] <flocculant> sometimes :p
[18:58] <Unit193> flocculant: No, there's a workaround. :P
[18:58] <flocculant> yes
[18:58] <flocculant> install from desktop :D
[18:58] <Unit193> Heh, https://bugs.debian.org/837708
[18:58] <Unit193> flocculant: Nope, different one. :P
[18:59] <flocculant> woohoo - 2 workrounds - we're cooking with gas now :)
[19:06] <nairwolf> Oh, I'm suffering from Thunar bug right now !
[19:06] <nairwolf> I renamed a file !
[19:07] <Unit193> Silly nairwolf, you know you aren't supposed to rename files.
[19:11] <nairwolf> I'm sick ;)
[19:13] <Unit193> Noooope, still crashing away. :D
[21:51] <ochosi> flocculant: good news: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot2016-09-1323-51-24.php
[21:58] <bluesabre> ochosi, yay
[21:58] <ochosi> now i only have to find the LP bug id and i can push it
[21:58] <ochosi> and then i'll go ahead and release 3.20.1
[21:58] <ochosi> so you guys can get it uploaded
[21:59] <bluesabre> ochosi, sounds good to me
[22:00]  * Unit193 already called not it.
[22:00]  * bluesabre calls it.
[22:01] <ochosi> does anyone have the bug id handy?
[22:01] <ochosi> somehow i can't seem to find it and it's not linked to our bugs blueprint
[22:02] <bluesabre> one sec
[22:02] <ochosi> oh, found it
[22:02] <bluesabre> ochosi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/greybird-gtk-theme/+bug/1617705
[22:02] <bluesabre> darn
[22:02] <bluesabre> :D
[22:03] <ochosi> :)
[22:03] <ochosi> thanks anyway
[22:05] <ochosi> btw, we might need a UIFe for this
[22:05] <ochosi> because it's not just the patch, but also the few tweaks i did
[22:05] <ochosi> mostly deflating
[22:06] <bluesabre> alrighty
[22:06] <ochosi> and your plank theme
[22:07] <bluesabre> :)
[22:07] <bluesabre> ochosi, don't suppose this was also fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/greybird-gtk-theme/+bug/1617711
[22:08] <ochosi> i wasnt even aware of that one
[22:08] <ochosi> oh wow, that looks terrible
[22:08] <bluesabre> :D
[22:09] <ochosi> well at the moment i can't even get to that dialog because of this funny thing: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot2016-09-1400-08-58.php
[22:10] <bluesabre> "at least" = "more than"
[22:10] <ochosi> potato potato
[22:12] <bluesabre> potato grapefruit
[22:13] <ochosi> anyway, ubiquity refuses to let me use the gtk inspector on it
[22:13] <ochosi> so i'll have to look at the source code anyway
[22:14] <bluesabre> even with 
[22:14] <bluesabre> GTK_DEBUG=interactive ?
[22:14] <ochosi> yeah
[22:14] <ochosi> ofc
[22:14] <bluesabre> lame
[22:14] <ochosi> maybe a polkit issue
[22:15] <ochosi> can't really find the ui sheet for that page in ubiquity though
[22:15] <ochosi> very odd
[22:15] <ochosi> maybe it's drawn in teh code
[22:16]  * knome draws a fish in ochosi's notebook
[22:23] <bluesabre> hi knome 
[22:26] <knome> hey bluesabre 
[22:27] <bluesabre> what's up?
[22:27] <knome> shredding old usb disks and cleaning up closets
[22:27] <ochosi> bluesabre: i've stolen your screenshot and recycled it in my blog post ;) http://simon.shimmerproject.org/2016/09/13/greybird-3-20-1-released-mostly-bugfixes/
[22:27] <knome> thief!
[22:28] <bluesabre> ochosi, alrighty, enjoy the corner mugshot launcher :D
[22:29] <ochosi> ppl will think it's a fancy logout menu ;)
[22:29] <bluesabre> works for me :)
[22:29] <ochosi> so sucks a bit i didn't know about this other bug
[22:29] <ochosi> but well, the more annoying ones are fixed
[22:30] <ochosi> btw, i will probably need another greybird release (or at least patch) so we can get the "CSD as toolbar" situation fixed
[22:30] <bluesabre> definitely, and we'll get that other one fixed sooner than later probably
[22:30] <ochosi> and probably some help with MRs
[22:31] <bluesabre> just gotta ping me and I can nag
[22:31] <ochosi> well in evince i can already fix the problem
[22:31] <ochosi> but we need analogous patches for the other apps that we ship by default or care about
[22:32] <bluesabre> I'll see about getting a list together of those
[22:32] <ochosi> https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/evince/add_toolbar_class/+merge/305423
[22:32] <ochosi> it's a really simple patch
[22:32] <ochosi> you should be able to do that for any given app with a headerbar patch
[22:32] <ochosi> file-roller is high on my list
[22:32] <ochosi> if you can get that done, i'll get the additional lines into greybird
[22:33] <bluesabre> alrighty
[22:33] <ochosi> i wanted to get the first one done to set a precedent
[22:33] <ochosi> now you can always refer to this one without having to argue too much to get the patch accepted
[22:33] <bluesabre> yeah, that will definitely help
[22:34] <bluesabre> I wonder how these look with light-themes
[22:34] <ochosi> not too bad
[22:35] <ochosi> they don't draw borders on their headerbars
[22:35] <ochosi> but i dunno whether that's due to this visual conflict
[22:35] <ochosi> atm thereis no maintainer for their themes anyway
[22:36] <ochosi> and i'm not even talking about a designer
[22:37] <bluesabre> that's pretty crazy
[22:38] <ochosi> everybody is waiting for/working on unity8...
[22:39] <ochosi> plus nobody from the community stepped up so far
[22:47] <bluesabre> The "redo everything every six months" is probably not exciting for potential maintainers
[22:48] <Unit193> "We'd rather work on something a handful of people are using than something everyone uses"
[22:48] <Unit193> flocculant: You ever test things with UEFI?
[22:48] <ochosi> "we'd rather work on something we use ourselves"
[22:48] <ochosi> that ^ is my main reason for not doing it
[22:49] <ochosi> plus yeah, ofc, the gtk3 theme breakage is not fun
[22:49] <ochosi> although it seems gtk3.22 will be largely compatible with 3.20 ;)
[22:49] <knome> comparatively or objectively? :P
[22:49] <bluesabre> ochosi, my laptop is uefi
[22:50] <bluesabre> as far as testing things, everything just works if I stay on *ubuntu
[22:50] <ochosi> yeah, mine is uefi as well
[22:52] <ochosi> anyway, sleepytime
[22:52] <ochosi> night y'all
[22:53] <knome> nighty y'one
[22:57] <Unit193> Oh gosh cdimage is slow.
[23:00] <Unit193> (So I rsync it from my server, cuts the time down by more than half.)