[05:33] morning [08:29] hexchat started without menus. Any idea how to get them back? [08:30] jarnos, close it and restart from terminal. catch any errors [08:33] cfhowlett, no messages in terminal [08:34] jarnos, so no menus means ... it goes straight to channel? [08:35] cfhowlett, it goes to autojoined channels automatically [08:35] jarnos, right. OK, you can rename your hexchat config file and it will default to factory fresh behavior [08:42] cfhowlett, ok, I had to change a line to "gui_hide_menu = 0". I can then switch it off again in View menu, but the advertised key combo Ctrl+F9 does not work. [08:42] jarnos, sorry, can't help you there. [08:48] cfhowlett, maybe it is because Ctrl-F9 is the key shortcut for "Workspace 9" in Xfce Window Manager. [08:49] jarnos, yes, they could very easily be in conflict [08:54] cfhowlett, is that shortcut used in Xfce general or is it specific to Xubuntu? [08:55] well, it should be specific to xfce I would think [08:55] but changeable [08:56] cfhowlett, so which package should the bug report be done against? [08:57] jarnos, well, is that really a bug, though? [08:57] xfce did what xfce does. sadly, hexchat used the came keybinding [09:05] cfhowlett, sadly I can not report a bug against hexchat now. (Timeout error in Launchpad) [09:56] I got the minimal version of xubuntu but I'm missing the printing options. Google tells me I need xfprint but I'm unable to locate that package [10:12] Furkiepurkie, what is minimal version of Xubuntu? [10:13] jarnos: https://xubuntu.org/news/introducing-xubuntu-core/ [10:18] Furkiepurkie, would installing system-config-printer-gnome and using system-config-printer to configure? [10:18] do [10:27] I'll try that [10:32] nice, works perfectly [10:32] thanks jarnos [10:34] Hello still solving this situation - 3 scripts. I may not be able to do it without a simple example, please look: [10:34] A) terminal.sh starts a xfce4-terminal window. I want to start the execution of [10:34] B) myscript.sh in that terminal window any later. (Can be simple or complicated, e. g. just: echo test in it. It will end or crash.) [10:34] C) starter.sh is my 3rd script which triggers the execution of myscript.sh [10:34] What I need: 1. terminal window will NOT close & 2. terminal will keeps accepting inputs from starter.sh. Possible, how? [10:41] 'xfce4-terminal -H' keeps the terminal open even after the child process has ended [10:42] i don't understand why you are complicating this with three scripts [10:42] why do you need starter.sh? [10:45] knome yes but the original terminal will do nothing more. Starter.sh is triggered by some monitor, but that is another story. That monitor keeps an eye on a running process. Yes, it is the code run by myscript.sh and it is a mono application. So what I am presenting is the most simplified scenario, because I need all 3. [10:47] ok, so you want to have two terminals open, right? [10:47] the other runs myscript.sh, and if the script ends or crashes, you want to keep that terminal window opwn [10:47] *open [10:47] and the other terminal does what? [10:48] you run starter.sh in it? [10:49] for the terminal that runs myscript, just run 'xfce4-terminal -H -x myscript.sh' [10:49] you don't need another script to run the terminal [10:49] knome One is enough. But when the process in it stops or fails, I would like to open in the same window a new process by that 3rd script. What happens now is when I come to pc I see empty console with crashed program and a new console I know nothing about how it performed. So the idea is I would scrooll the console simply and see how many times it crashed, what were the reasons and how many times it was restarted. Cos I have more such consoles would be [10:49] nice to see that in one window [10:49] ok... the -H parameter lets you do that [10:50] is the idea of starter.sh to simply run myscript.sh again when it ends or crashes? [10:50] eg. you want to loop running myscript.sh? [10:52] knome that is solved. myscript.sh is being monitored and restarted. But not in the same console. if I want it in the same console and keep all outputs in front of my eyes I must be present when it crashes and start it there manually. Otherwise it statrs in a new console which, after being killed or crashes, leaves without trace. The program may need to be killed when it gets irresponsible so that my watchdog also does [10:52] So the whole idea is to alter my manual input by script input [10:53] script which represents my hands should be starter.sh [10:54] So that one console I would like to see always running [10:54] so what you basically want is to run myscript.sh on the same terminal even after it crashed? [10:54] the terminal did not crash, the code in it yes [10:54] yes, the script. [10:54] mono application in that console sometimes crashes yes [10:56] it sounds like you want a while loop in starter.sh [10:57] well what it does now is this: [10:58] mono /home/user/path/app/bin/OpenSim.exe [10:58] that is all [10:58] It opens new window [10:58] when it crashes, it again opens new window .... etc. [11:00] ok, so you need to figure out how to run a mono application in the same terminal you run it from. [11:00] exactly [11:00] I can do it manually but not by a script - I do not know how [11:00] how do you do it manually then? [11:01] I can only type it by my fingers into that console. (I can do it before my starter.sh notices that the program does not run) [11:02] so it's the exact same command you run? [11:02] yes, in ideal case it would be the same comand [11:02] now scripts starts new [11:02] i'm not talking ideal; which command are you typing when you run the script manually? [11:03] mono /home/user/path/app/bin/OpenSim.exe [11:03] do you compile the exe yourself? [11:04] no it is opensimserver [11:04] so manually I start directly that mono exe file [11:05] i would look in the mono documentation [11:06] but what you really want is this: [11:06] Well, you think I can find there info how to start a process in a sconsole with a given name? [11:06] when you run the terminal that starts your script, simply run: [11:06] xfce4-terminal -H -x starter.sh [11:06] in starter.sh, you want this: [11:06] while true; do [11:06] # run script here [11:06] done [11:07] you need to read the mono documentation; mono starts the new terminal [11:07] Oh that may do the thing knome - that run script here = which script? [11:08] myscript.sh, or to be exact, just put the mono line there. [11:08] mono /home/user/path/app/bin/OpenSim.exe [11:08] this [11:08] considering myscript.sh doesn't have anything else than that line [11:08] yes, that [11:08] oh ... OK knome, that may solve my months of searching :) Looking if it will do. Ty [11:09] (and see, you actually only need one script, not three...) [11:31] knome this generates "syntax error: inexpected end of file" The content of the file is just as you said: while true; do [11:31] run mono /home/user/path/app/bin/OpenSim.exe [11:32] why "run"? [11:32] and you are missing the last line; "done" [11:33] (without the quotes) [11:33] oh ok, changing that, I thought I need to copy it whole [11:33] nope. just as you would run it in a terminal [13:49] Where is default audios files in Xubuntu system? [13:49] I tried to find mp3 from the root, but couldn't find any. [13:51] Nevermind, found two ogg-files in Xubuntu. [14:37] hello I was wondering if I'm the only one having an issue with a non matching icon size on the elementary-xfce theme ? [14:39] specificly the gtk-disconnect.png in 32x32 [15:14] Hi all. The live USB for "Try Xubuntu" is formatted for testing the system, is there an easy way to get a standard install of Xubuntu (without installer and Grub "try" menu) on to a bootable usb? [16:10] hola? :c === IdleOne is now known as Guest54953 [19:33] Hi all! [19:33] hello [19:34] I am running Xubuntu 16.04.1 and couple of things are bothering me... [19:35] First, connecting to hidden networks does not work. I have to delete it and then create it to connect again. [19:35] Second, how can I turn off bluetooth by default? === Guest4608 is now known as pcw === pcw is now known as PaulW2U [19:53] Anyone??? [19:55] leta: bluetooth off [19:55] although I dont know if it makes it default as well, but I think it does [19:55] Nope, it does not.. [19:55] Every time I turn the computer on, the bluetooth is on... [20:15] leta, did you google? I remember same BT thing happening to me, and I quickly found the answer on how to turn it off on every restart. [20:16] What I found was disabling the whole bt module [20:16] In that case I could not easily enable it when I need it... [20:16] I will google it tomorrow. [20:16] Any ideas for WiFi? [20:17] leta: Maybe turning blueman off by default will help? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Blueman#Configuration [20:17] Don't mind me if I'm wrong. I'm just a casual user ;) === IdleOne is now known as Guest56430