[01:20] Has anyone else had issues with Update Manager in 16.04? I don't get notifications about updates anymore and when I open Update Manager I'm always told everything's up to date until I manually check for updates. [01:27] viewer|87556, I think Discover does an apt update whenever it's opened, or _something_ is blocking it before showing the count. [01:29] Do you know if this is a known issue? [01:29] I saw an old bug but it looks like it's been closed [02:43] anyone here [02:44] yes? [02:44] Yes [02:45] trying to setup vhost on ubuntu [02:45] i have setup 000-defaulto to have more then one port but its not working [02:46] dbrom: you may get an answer here, however we generally handle kubuntu questions [02:46] you are likely to get more answers in #ubuntu [02:47] trying apache also nothing there yet === tunix_ is now known as tunix__ === tunix__ is now known as tunix_ === pavlushka is now known as Guest78383 === Guest78383 is now known as pavlushka [03:56] where's the display-brightness icon in the file system? [03:57] trying to script up some notifications, and it doesn't seem to be in the icons folder [04:06] ...and it doesn't show in search either [06:17] Hi all. I got a multiscreen setup but Plasms option config dont let med chose any "portrait" mode, just rotation. Is there a way around this? [06:22] Hi all. I got a multiscreen setup but Plasms option config dont let med chose any "portrait" mode, just rotation. Is there a way around this? [06:23] what do you mean "portrait mode"? It's just an aspect ratio, just set the desired resolution [06:24] also don't repeat your question when there's nothing else in the scroll, not even any joins or parts; someone will either see it and answer or they won't, repeating yourself right next to yourself does nothing beneficial. [06:24] I use this screen as to mi IDE, and "portrait" allows me to se cod e verticaly. [06:25] I know i just was kopying to another channel and hit enter by error [06:25] and does it not let you set the correct resolution for the display? [06:26] not that i can see. I se [06:26] display: rotation clockwise rotation 90 degress etc [06:27] i didn't ask about rotation, i asked about resolution [06:28] know the difference between a 1920x1080 monitor in landscape mode, and the same monitor in portrait mode? [06:28] i dont understand why you ask about resoultion :) im not saying that reso is a peroblem. i got is at 1920x whatever for all screens as it shoiuld be :) [06:28] the latter isn't 1920x1080, it's 1080x1920; see if it lets you set that as a resolution [06:28] ah... i understand now. [06:28] let me check. [06:29] like i said, protrait mode isn't anything epecial, it just refers to an aspect ratio with height being the long dimension [06:29] so you don't need a special setting, just set the resolution accordingly [06:29] Shogoot: are you using kubuntu backports ppa? [06:29] You really should if you use multimonitor [06:30] i just installed my first ever kubuntu :) [06:30] the bar goes grom 600x800 to 19291080 and no 1080x1920 option [06:31] now if the monitor in question is one of those rotating ones that automatically swaps between 16:9 and 9:16, that may require more work. I've never owned one or seen one outside of a store, so i've never had to deal with it. I would assume it'd require sme additional software support, but for that you'd just have to google. [06:31] what does that backport give me? [06:31] (search for the model with some strings like 'change aspect ratio') [06:31] backports will give you a more recent version of KDE [06:31] it fixes some of the stuff they broke [06:32] ill se into it. [06:33] Shogoot: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports && sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [06:33] Shogoot: otherwise you may lose settings for your monitors, and have panels going to the wrong one etc etc [06:34] It still happens. Just less frequently. [06:38] updateing [06:39] flash plugin? for real? :) [06:39] i see it beeing downloaded [07:13] backport ppa and screenresolution is stil not working for me. [07:14] Hmmm... Why is the "Settings -> Manage Siee Scripts" in KMail not working anymore ? [07:14] Good morning === Guest97201 is now known as lordievader === lordievader is now known as Guest20559 [07:17] hateball: any suggestions? [07:17] Shogoot: is the backports ppa not working? [07:17] Shogoot: or is the screen rotation bit not working, even after upgrading? [07:18] the ppa is fine, ut solving my multiple monitor problem is not [07:18] Right [07:18] Shogoot: what gpu/driver are you using? [07:18] nvidia 376 [07:21] hateball: sorry nvidia-367 [07:21] lates from official linux nvida driver for my Quadro 4000M card [07:22] argh. sooht. i got to work a bit, ill be back alter :) [07:42] Morning :) [07:50] This is how some apps look like on my desktop after installing KDE5 - https://postimg.org/image/ogszzwqn7/ I mean black characters on almost black background, and those buttons which I believe should contain some text. When I changed theme to a lighter one, I had white letters on almost white background o.O And I can't find where can I change these details. [08:00] konrados: looks like some broken theme settings [08:00] konrados: does things work properly if you use a default look and feel like breeze dark ? === frvdamme is now known as yalu [08:02] I have two screens, one monitor and one hdmi tv, I recently took the nvidia card out of the box, leaving me with ati onboard. When the tv shuts off my monitor flickers and whatever but when I turn the tv back on there is no detection until I select display from 'system-settings' [08:02] I use the default breeze dark, hateball. I'm not really concerned on this black and dark grey text, but why is the text on buttons missing? [08:03] driver manager says there is no properitary drivers to install [08:03] *I'm not concerned about this black text on dark gray background issue (and that's because it happens only in a few apps I use rarely) [08:04] ChetManly: there's no proprietary drivers to install for AMD these days [08:04] oh? [08:04] well, there is amdgpu-pro but that's only for the latest chipsets and I think it's not-awesome [08:04] all opensource? [08:04] ChetManly: yes, since 16.04 amdgpu is used in favor or fglrx [08:04] or radeon if it is a legacy device [08:05] how do I tell? [08:06] ChetManly: "lspci -k" [08:06] look for the VGA parts [08:07] or grep ati and dont think im being smart by saying that, I remember a little here and there lol [08:07] AMD/ATI] RS880 [Radeon HD 4200] [08:08] ChetManly: if you just grep you dont get the line telling you which kernel module is being used [08:09] Kernel driver in use: pata_atiixp [08:09] that's not a VGA driver [08:10] yes ignore me for a moment ..sigh [08:10] radeon [08:11] I really need to change my theme its late and its too bright [08:14] ok that should be better [08:15] ok so I get very little horizontal tearing on my tv with this setup, what gives? [08:15] IM on 14.04.5 btw [08:16] ChetManly: oh [08:16] a good nvidia card vs onboard ati? [08:16] ChetManly: well in 14.04 fglrx still exists, but I dunno how well it works [08:16] I have avoided AMD gpu for a decade+ [08:16] nvidia "just works" [08:16] me too but I was suprised with these results [08:17] (except if the chipset is very new and you need to boot nomodeset until you can install the blob) [08:17] always plug in a nvidia whether there is onboard or not [08:18] I always thought the tearing was the result of differing resolution on each screen [08:19] ChetManly: so you're saying you had tearing with nvidia, but not with amd? [08:19] monitor is 1440x900 and tv is 1080 [08:19] yes I sure am [08:19] well, nvidia has some funky issues with tearing but they are for the most part fixable [08:19] fresh install prior to ripping the nvidia card out [08:20] I always meant to test the onboard just never got around to it [08:21] I try to stay away from the blobs regardless [08:22] opensource is pretty decent these days although im not sure how much more this onboard would do [08:23] cant remember my other question now ... [08:26] open source drivers are ok unless you do any gaming or have a 9xx+ nvidia chipset [08:27] with no reclocking for this card, nouveau it is not an option here [08:27] youu on 16.04? [08:28] I have a lot of issues, since I installed the newest ubuntu.... I noticed the windows open slowly, htop says I have two plasma processes, one of them using > 150% of CPU. Then there is xorg process using > 60% of CPU o.O what do I do about it? [08:29] konrados: did you enable the backports ppa? === juboxi is now known as jubo2 [08:29] I don't even know what's that, hateball [08:30] oh :D [08:30] konrados: 16.04 isnt very... stable, sadly. But the backports ppa fixes much ! [08:30] konrados: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports && sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [08:31] sec... [08:33] I've resetted plasmashell it was 3 minutes ago, and it still didn't finish rebooting, I want to wait for it to finish before installing that === Guest20559 is now known as lordievader [08:46] hateball: yes 16.04 isnt good at all [08:46] im running majaro in a VM to see what newer kde is like [08:47] manjaro* [08:47] 16.10 will hopefully bring much needed stability [08:47] with updated Qt and kde frameworks et al [08:50] lots of crazy decisions, systemd, realtiviely new DE, control panel mucked with even more, horrible display manager and removed kdm... [08:51] ill be on 14 for awhile [08:53] I do like sddm more than kdm, fwiw [08:53] what do you like ? [08:53] and I only use krunner to get into options, no clicking around the various kcms [08:53] ChetManly: It just feels snappier [08:54] for whatever few seconds it is used [08:54] multiscreen doesnt work [08:54] that's correct [08:54] well work right [08:55] what do you mean kcms [08:55] I mean clicking around in the system settings [08:56] rather than using krunner to go to the relevant thing at once [08:56] ahh [08:56] ChetManly: have you tried setting your resolution using xrandr directly rather than using kscreen? [08:57] no [08:58] I just thought it to be weird for it to not auto detect the tv [08:58] the nvidia card just "held" the tvs place, no screen flicker [08:59] does that make sense? [09:00] an extended desktop appears only after clicking the display option in system settings [09:02] I mean just selecting the option not pressing the button or pressing detect displays or some such thing [09:02] its weird it must probe the tvs autmatically [09:03] well it could very well not like to fetch the EDID from the TV [09:03] but it should detect *something* at any rate [09:03] even if it would report wrong size etc [09:03] yes it works correctly [09:04] it just needs a kick in the ass to enable tv out I guess youd call it [09:04] or is this normal behavior? [09:05] hateball, - it ended with: processing package man-db (2.7.5-1).. errors: /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-desktop_4%3a5.6.5-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) What does it mean? p.s. I translated a few words to English, so it's not exactly the original output [09:05] its weird now having to turn on the tv and then select system settings to get it to pop on [09:07] used to just" be on" when you turned the tv on before [09:07] is there a way besides using some old xorg.conf shit to make this a thing again? [09:08] ship* forgot i was in this channel [09:08] ChetManly: no idea about 14.04 here [09:10] konrados: hmm, try and "sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt full-upgrade" [09:10] hateball: isnt xrandr ""dynamic [09:10] ChetManly: What do you mean? [09:10] like its settings are on the fly [09:10] ChetManly: on boot, yes [09:10] or well, whenever you run it [09:11] so one couldnt tell it to say a particular wat [09:11] way* [09:11] ChetManly: hmm? [09:12] !info kscreen trusty [09:12] kscreen (source: kscreen): KDE monitor hotplug and screen handling. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.2.1-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 126 kB, installed size 846 kB [09:18] If I leave kscreen on and turn the tv on ...nothing [09:18] but it recognizes when you turn it off? [09:19] if I type xrandr or kscreen-console in terminal the tv pops on [09:22] hello all === tanjoodo is now known as Tanjoodo [09:50] hateball - thank you, it helped much, but not entirely I think. i.e. now everything is much faster, but still... I have two "plasmashell --shut-up" processes and they use around 80% (in summary) of CPU (I have four cores) - is this normal? [10:04] So yeha. I installed ppa backport for kubuntu, and distro updated. I can not see any gui option in my Display configuration to change one of my creen to 1080x1920 resolution so i can use it as a "portrait" screen for my IDE and be hapyy chap coding :) I Seek assistance! :) [10:05] I have a 4 moinitor set her from a laptop on a dokcing using nvidia driver 367 [10:14] hateball, someone told me it's normal, that I have two plasmashell processes - is that true? [10:24] hateball, oh no, I didn't know htop shows threads (I mean subprocesses) too, so I have only one plasmashell process, still however I think it using 80% is a bit high :( [10:26] Shogoot: are you using nvidia-settings to config? you should if you use binary blob [10:27] konrados: that is usually due to some plasmoid gone wrong [10:27] konrados: I dont know how to troubleshoot it other than removing stuff and seeing where the issue is. Might be a better way they know of in #plasma [10:33] what is the weird flash substitute [10:33] right click shows no info [10:34] looks like gnash [10:34] Thanks hateball [10:35] on sites that dont use html5 [10:35] ChetManly: which browser are you using? [10:37] maybe its just the site [10:37] I was using firefox but its the same in chromium [10:38] I read that firefox made their player [10:38] own* [10:39] chromium has no flash by default, but you can use pepperflash from chrome [10:39] and firefox has npapi flash, which is currently 11.2 from adobe [10:39] unless you grab their beta and install manually [10:39] whats a good site to test on [10:39] v 23 or so, it is much nicer than 11.2 if you must have flash somewhere [10:40] ChetManly: http://www.adobe.com/se/software/flash/about/ [10:41] this is weird [10:42] so does 11 still got patches? thought that was only a 5 year deal [10:43] chromium says this dobe Flash Player är standarden för leverans av slagkraftigt multimedialt webbmaterial. Bilder, animationer och användargränssnitt kan användas direkt i olika webbläsare på olika plattformar. [10:43] that's why v23 is in beta, they decided to support npapi flash again [10:43] adobe did? [10:44] yes [10:44] yay [10:44] dummies [10:44] mozilla is dropping npapi for everything *but* flash [10:44] xD [10:44] well where did I read they made their own [10:44] ChetManly: for chromium you will want pepperflash as i said [10:44] right [10:45] it's installable via repos [10:45] or install chrome [10:45] ChetManly: iirc mozilla had some flash->html5 converter thing [10:45] like apple quicktime? [10:45] ChetManly: well, what the package does is pull down the latest chrome.deb and extract pepperflash from it, for use with chromium [10:46] !info pepperflashplugin-installer trusty [10:46] Package pepperflashplugin-installer does not exist in trusty [10:46] boo [10:46] !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree trusty [10:46] pepperflashplugin-nonfree (source: pepperflashplugin-nonfree): Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.3ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 9 kB, installed size 65 kB (Only available for i386; amd64) [10:46] what in the fuck [10:46] oh [10:47] oops, is this site fam friendly or waht? [10:48] !language [10:48] The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [11:45] hateball: so this nvidia driver i snot detecting 2 of my 4 monitors. is it just to apt-get remove nvidia-367 and let kde/ubuntu display manger take over the job? or is there a linux based driver for my nvidia card? [11:49] Shogoot: are you using 367 from ppa? [11:50] hmmm not sure if it is from ppa [11:50] let me se if i have that repo [11:50] surely you remember if you used ppa or pulled it from nvidias website [11:51] Shogoot: if you dont use the blob you're stuck with nouveau and I am not sure that driver handles more than 2 monitors, if that [11:51] whre do is e the repos again? [11:52] Shogoot: just do "apt-cache policy nvidia-367" [11:52] !paste [11:52] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.kde.org | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [11:52] it'll tell you where it's installed from [12:17] hateball: sorry i was experimenting with thunderbird irc client. i did disconect aparently === marios_ is now known as Guest12977 === Guest12977 is now known as marios__ [12:24] hateball: this is my output guess is doenloaded from nvdia site? [12:24] http://pastebin.com/wKXXwQn7 [12:27] Shogoot: no, notice where it says ppa etc [12:27] Shogoot: I was only going to suggest you'd try the nvidia-370 beta driver, see if that makes things any nicer [12:27] I am using it, but I do not use multimonitor on that setup however [12:28] hateball: when i just had isntalled the default driver was not rendering properly. [12:29] but that i guess is s generic driver, do you know of any more sophisticades graphics driver under kubuntu [12:30] Shogoot: You're not making much sense [12:31] Shogoot: You are currently using the nvidia blob, which is the most "sophisticated" driver available [12:38] hateball: ok thx. ill stick to the nvidia driver and see if i can figure out why its not detecting 2 of my monitors. [13:02] hateball : 370 nvidia driver is no longer beta, its the stable short term release I think [13:11] yossarianuk: ah! [13:13] hateball: but how do i remove the envidia? apt-get remove nvidia-367? and then install nvidia-370? [13:13] or yossarianuk you know? :) [13:14] apt-get purge [13:15] Shogoot: if you are using 367 now, you just "sudo apt install nvidia-370" [13:15] and it'll remove the old packages etc [13:16] true [13:23] doing it. thanks for the help today [13:23] * Shogoot afk === dcmul_ is now known as dcmul === dexter is now known as Guest35928 [13:53] Shogoot: should be the case of removing present drivers then adding new ones - actually install of new ones should upgrade the packages [13:53] I would do it outside of X === Guest35928 is now known as dexterlabs [14:30] Does Kubuntu run on 16.04? [14:30] My bad [14:30] Kubuntu 16.04 Xenial Xerus [14:31] I experienced a world of trouble with Unity and its Window Manager, Compiz and so on. Is Kubuntu more stable, and how does it do with resource usage? [14:34] wish^: Best to try with a livedvd/usb and see if it works as expected with your particular system first. If so then you can install it, if not, then on to another like perhaps xubuntu [14:35] Im on Ubuntu using Cinnamon now and it seems pretty stable compared to Unity [14:36] But i do really like the look of the Plasma Ui [14:38] wish^: Kubuntu is nice, but you really want to use the kubuntu ppa after install as default 16.04 is a bit unstable [14:39] Ok, but the ppa fixes things? [14:40] I am really looking for a stable system, i work as a web dev and cant use my time fixing my system every week [15:32] does anyone know which version of KDE will be included in the next Kubuntu release? [15:32] will it be 5.8 LTS, or 5.7? [15:39] 5.7 [15:39] 5.8 has it's release way to late to get included in Yakkety === rapte is now known as how_long_is_the_ [17:32] anyone know what's up with the multimedia settings refusing to save settings? I have a display connected via DVI-to-HDMI cable, and so now it's trying to force the use of HDMI audio (which DVI obviously doesn't carry), and while I can set the on-board analog controller in the settings and test speakers successfully, hit apply, when i open it again it's back to using HDMI [17:33] dvi can have audio . [17:33] it seems to have also broken the audio device settings in general, as now nothing but "phonon device" shows when choosing device priority [17:33] news to me, and irrelevant in any case. [17:34] in system settings -> multimedia what is your default audio device? [17:36] SporkWitch: im sorry system settings-> multimedia-> audio and Video-> device preference . please be sure to move your built in card to the top of the audio lists [17:37] sithlord48: that's what i'm saying, none of my devices are listed anymore, since rebooting after connecting that display [17:38] are any devices shown? [17:38] just the generic "pulseaudio sound driver" thing [17:38] what does alsamixer say ? [17:38] while in the audio volume tab, and in the audio hardware setup tabs, the actual devices are shown [17:39] audio hardware tab is for setting up the profile of each audio device. \ [17:39] shows 'em all, defaulting to the analog, like it should [17:40] the audio hardware setup tab does not set your default card you can only change card setting in that panel . [17:41] SporkWitch: iirc after i added phonon-VLC backend sound worked for me . and not with gstreamer backend [17:42] worth a shot; just strange, since it's not been a problem until connecting the tv (bad desk situation at the moment, tv is far from ideal, but it's better than having only one display) [17:44] hmmm, i think i may be troubleshooting the wrong issue. I just set a youtube video going and that's still going over the analog output like it should... [17:44] original symptom was my headset suddenly not working in hangouts, and when i checked settings to make sure device priorities hadn't gotten screwed up, everything was missing (when it was there 2 days ago when i'd set it) [17:49] making progress then thats good [18:12] how can i set the scaling for GTK apps? [18:12] i added GDK_SCALE=2 to my bashrc but firefox is still small [18:13] when i launch from the terminal it scales properly but not with the shortcut [18:40] What is the most stable release of Kubuntu right now? === james is now known as Guest48757 [19:30] wish^: the LTS, 16.04 [19:30] * valorie is on 16.10, but it's only in beta now [19:31] 16.04 will be supported for years === kubuntu is now known as Guest45797 === Guest45797 is now known as kubuntu__ === nickgeoca is now known as linman [19:33] Someone earlier said 16.04 was a bit unstable? [20:05] how to configure the file save dialogs for gtk apps? [20:07] wish^: I've not found it so, but I do enable backports [20:21] join #kali-linux === nickgeoca is now known as linman_ [21:34] Artur_Abrahao was added by: Artur_Abrahao [21:35] hi! [21:35] after an update in the kubuntu 14, the cpu speed is limited to 800MHz insteal do 2.45Ghz [21:36] I installed cpu-freq and cant change it === Guest56430 is now known as IdleOne === kubuntu is now known as Guest54628 === Guest54628 is now known as kubuntu__