[20:46] <fes> hi guys. how come QT5 applications do not follow the GTK+ theme in 16.04?
[20:47] <jbicha> fes: because qt does theming separately, but see https://github.com/MartinBriza/adwaita-qt
[20:49] <jbicha> ironically I went through some effort to finally get qt off our default install for 16.10 but in 16.10 adwaita-qt is packaged but it depends on qt :(
[20:49] <fes> jbicha, I tried it in an Arch installation and it worked out of the box. Is it really QT or GTK+ fault and not Ubuntu's settings?
[20:50] <jbicha> I believe it's originally Qt and GTK's fault, yes
[20:51] <jbicha> but it can be worked around by installing adwaita-qt and qgnomeplatform
[20:51] <jbicha> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/QGnomePlatform
[20:56] <fes> jbicha, do you know where I can find these packages? I seem to have a hard time finding DEB's of them. Thanks.
[20:58] <fes> is it safe to use debians unstable package ofadwaita-qt?
[21:00] <jbicha> fes: do you use the gnome3 staging ppa?
[21:02] <fes> i believe so since I have gnome 3.20 in 16.04.
[21:03] <jbicha> ok, I'll backport adwaita-qt to the staging ppa for xenial; give it an hour or two to build
[21:03] <jbicha> but qgnomeplatform isn't packaged yet
[21:04] <fes> jbicha, thank you very much!
[21:05] <fes> i tried qt5cp but had problems getting QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME="qt5ct" working even though I tried it in ~/.profile and /etc/environment
[21:05] <fes> qt5ct
[21:06] <fes> since you mentioned backport... will QT5 and GTK+ theming work better in 16.10 compared to 16.04?
[21:07] <jbicha> not currently
[21:08] <jbicha> but gnome-session 3.20 sets an environment variable that makes it easier to use adwaita-qt and qgnomeplatform (that's why I asked whether you were using GNOME 3.20)
[21:08] <jbicha> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-session/commit/?id=971baf2e
[21:12] <fes> do you think future distros that will use 3.20 or 3.22 will have gnomeplatform and adwaita-qt by default so that people won't even notice diference between those toolkits?
[21:17] <jbicha> the problem for Ubuntu GNOME is that we don't know if we want to include qt by default; so users may have to install it separately after
[21:18] <jbicha> there are still differences, for instance qt apps usually have more icons in menus and buttons than gtk apps
[21:18] <fes> isn't it possible to have those packages installed by default so that IF qt4 and qt5 are installed later they will follow what is setup in gnomeplatform / adwaita-qt?
[21:32] <jbicha> adwaita-qt depends on qt5. Yes it's possible for Ubuntu GNOME to install it by default but we'd also be installing qt5 by default
[21:33] <fes> Aha, I didn't think of qt5 probably being a dependency to adwaita-qt
[21:35] <jbicha> we may still end up doing it for 16.10 or 17.04; I'm just annoyed because "no qt by default" was going to be a Feature of the new release for me :|
[21:40] <fes> The difference between being in a band and being a solo artist. Not always easy getting your wishes through :D