[20:46] hi guys. how come QT5 applications do not follow the GTK+ theme in 16.04? [20:47] fes: because qt does theming separately, but see https://github.com/MartinBriza/adwaita-qt [20:49] ironically I went through some effort to finally get qt off our default install for 16.10 but in 16.10 adwaita-qt is packaged but it depends on qt :( [20:49] jbicha, I tried it in an Arch installation and it worked out of the box. Is it really QT or GTK+ fault and not Ubuntu's settings? [20:50] I believe it's originally Qt and GTK's fault, yes [20:51] but it can be worked around by installing adwaita-qt and qgnomeplatform [20:51] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/QGnomePlatform [20:56] jbicha, do you know where I can find these packages? I seem to have a hard time finding DEB's of them. Thanks. [20:58] is it safe to use debians unstable package ofadwaita-qt? [21:00] fes: do you use the gnome3 staging ppa? [21:02] i believe so since I have gnome 3.20 in 16.04. [21:03] ok, I'll backport adwaita-qt to the staging ppa for xenial; give it an hour or two to build [21:03] but qgnomeplatform isn't packaged yet [21:04] jbicha, thank you very much! [21:05] i tried qt5cp but had problems getting QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME="qt5ct" working even though I tried it in ~/.profile and /etc/environment [21:05] qt5ct [21:06] since you mentioned backport... will QT5 and GTK+ theming work better in 16.10 compared to 16.04? [21:07] not currently [21:08] but gnome-session 3.20 sets an environment variable that makes it easier to use adwaita-qt and qgnomeplatform (that's why I asked whether you were using GNOME 3.20) [21:08] https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-session/commit/?id=971baf2e [21:12] do you think future distros that will use 3.20 or 3.22 will have gnomeplatform and adwaita-qt by default so that people won't even notice diference between those toolkits? [21:17] the problem for Ubuntu GNOME is that we don't know if we want to include qt by default; so users may have to install it separately after [21:18] there are still differences, for instance qt apps usually have more icons in menus and buttons than gtk apps [21:18] isn't it possible to have those packages installed by default so that IF qt4 and qt5 are installed later they will follow what is setup in gnomeplatform / adwaita-qt? [21:32] adwaita-qt depends on qt5. Yes it's possible for Ubuntu GNOME to install it by default but we'd also be installing qt5 by default [21:33] Aha, I didn't think of qt5 probably being a dependency to adwaita-qt [21:35] we may still end up doing it for 16.10 or 17.04; I'm just annoyed because "no qt by default" was going to be a Feature of the new release for me :| [21:40] The difference between being in a band and being a solo artist. Not always easy getting your wishes through :D