| mapps | hola | 00:37 |
|---|---|---|
| daftykins | \o | 02:10 |
| daftykins | mapps: what's new? | 02:10 |
| mapps | not much, almost finished last ship s2;) | 02:21 |
| mapps | on e12/13 s2 then got all of s3 to watch | 02:21 |
| mapps | also need to watch narcos s2 | 02:21 |
| mapps | well.not 'need':P | 02:21 |
| daftykins | XD | 02:22 |
| daftykins | i'm in Boulder,Colorado right now | 02:22 |
| mapps | sweet | 02:24 |
| mapps | how long for | 02:24 |
| daftykins | just done a few days hiking around Rocky Mountain National Park, here until Friday then off to Kansas for a baseball game, then more places after | 02:25 |
| mapps | sweet | 02:25 |
| mapps | how long in the states for total | 02:25 |
| daftykins | http://imgur.com/a/TdW16 | 02:25 |
| daftykins | 3 weeks about :) | 02:25 |
| mapps | gonna go wendys?:D | 02:26 |
| mapps | lol | 02:26 |
| daftykins | haha i've enjoyed a mcdonalds so far :> | 02:27 |
| mapps | heh | 02:28 |
| mapps | go to some cool places, you like steak, shrimp etc? | 02:28 |
| daftykins | don't have any fast food on Guernsey of course ;) | 02:32 |
| daftykins | never been hugely into steak but i'm going around trying more bbq yeah | 02:32 |
| mapps | oh none? i mean here we have burger king/mcdonalds, no kfc, no subway | 02:32 |
| mapps | no nandos | 02:33 |
| mapps | see how much weight you can gain eatimng xxxl meals heh | 02:33 |
| daftykins | sadly i've done that already! | 02:33 |
| mapps | did you have to fly to the uk first then or fly somewhere else? | 02:33 |
| daftykins | first day of hiking kicked my ass, i've gotten so unfit since my cycle spill 2 years ago | 02:33 |
| daftykins | had perma pain start up in the intercostal muscles between the ribs i broke back then | 02:33 |
| daftykins | bit of a wake up call :) | 02:34 |
| mapps | still hurts? | 02:34 |
| daftykins | yeah from the heavy breathing of the exercise at high altitude (hiked up hills to 10,000 feet) it set the pain off | 02:34 |
| mapps | aha | 02:35 |
| mapps | will it ever not hurt or will it always be there | 02:35 |
| daftykins | yeah up to Gatwick on the 7am, found out my 11:20am flight was delayed 'til 2pm... which meant i missed my Toronto -> Denver flight, so had to go via Chicago which meant i ended up travelling and awake for like 26+ hours straight >_< | 02:35 |
| daftykins | i mean it hasn't hurt 'til now apart from a couple of spells when i was doing exercise at home and was heavily breathing to catch my breath | 02:36 |
| daftykins | just need to exercise and get back in shape i think | 02:36 |
| mapps | what happens with the toronto - denver flight..do they refund your ticket, or do you get screwed by it | 02:36 |
| daftykins | so i was already carrying the next boarding pass, just had to go to a desk and find where i was rebooked for | 02:37 |
| mapps | they dont charge you? even if its diff airlines? i thought they might as they could say its no their issue | 02:38 |
| daftykins | nah, in fact i can even get a partial refund since they delayed me over 5 hours | 02:41 |
| daftykins | looking it up now | 02:41 |
| mapps | so how did the 2nd leg know to rebook you ? if its a diff airline to first | 02:41 |
| daftykins | the first must talk to the second auto | 02:43 |
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| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:00 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 08:04 |
| Gargoyle | mornin' | 08:06 |
| brobostigon | morning davmor2 and Gargoyle | 08:10 |
| davmor2 | brobostigon: morning dude | 08:13 |
| brobostigon | :) | 08:14 |
| foobarry | what does if ( $var =~ "jeff" ) in perl mean | 08:25 |
| foobarry | contains? | 08:25 |
| BigRedS | =~ should have a regex after it | 08:26 |
| BigRedS | so that'd be equivalent to $var =~ m/jeff/ | 08:26 |
| BigRedS | and, yeah, $var contains jeff | 08:26 |
| foobarry | hmm it just has "jeff" | 08:26 |
| foobarry | ah ok | 08:26 |
| foobarry | how can i edit it to say | 08:26 |
| BigRedS | I'd imagine; m"jeff" would work like that, I don't really know what it does without the m | 08:27 |
| foobarry | if $var contains jeff or bob? | 08:27 |
| BigRedS | if ($var =~ m/(jeff|bob)/) | 08:27 |
| foobarry | brill , thanks | 08:27 |
| BigRedS | ah, it's nice to have an answer for someone in here for a change :) | 08:27 |
| foobarry | woo | 08:28 |
| popey | http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07v0hhm was interesting. worth a listen | 08:47 |
| BigRedS | I wish there was a "download this when it's available" button in the iplayer app | 08:52 |
| popey | get_iplayer has pvr capability | 08:52 |
| popey | cron that, and you can just add the url to get_iplayer | 08:52 |
| BigRedS | hah, yeah, I keep meaning to make some daft concoction that'll make it easy to make a podcast feed of all the stuff I want to get_iplayer | 08:53 |
| BigRedS | but I don't tend to listen to the radio at my PC so I've stopped using get_iplayer for radio stuff | 08:54 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Wednesday, and happy Eat a Hoagie Day! 😃 | 08:56 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH8jAjtvc10 | 08:59 |
| foobarry | eat a bogey ? | 09:00 |
| JamesTait | Well, if that's your thing.... | 09:01 |
| foobarry | facebook has reset all my user ignores | 09:02 |
| czajkowski | Anyone in London tonight going to http://www.meetup.com/Ubuntu-UK-Local-Community-Team/events/233941286/ | 09:04 |
| beaver545_ | Good day all, I've had the go ahead from my boss for attendance at the Gstreamer conference for myself and a colleague, however when i try to buy the professional early bird tickets for 2, the form comes back saying only 1 is available...? | 11:06 |
| popey | not sure that's something we can help with, is it? | 11:07 |
| beaver545_ | ah yes, sorry, thought i'd connected to the GStreamer channel! | 11:08 |
| popey | however, I just went to https://ti.to/gstreamer-conference-2016/gstreamer-conference-2016 | 11:08 |
| popey | and changed number to 2 and continue and it says buy two | 11:08 |
| DJones | Heh http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/09/ubuntu-torrent-removed-google-infringing-transformers-movie | 11:33 |
| popey | silly rabbits | 11:38 |
| davmor2 | popey: I think you mean wasically wabbit | 11:42 |
| czajkowski | popey: can you moderate a mail to the UK list please :) | 13:04 |
| popey | done | 13:08 |
| czajkowski | cheers! | 13:08 |
| foobarry | sad to say goodbye to my ARM shares :( | 13:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | you'll have to go out and get legless too... :-P | 13:21 |
| popey | it's not goodbye, it's 明日 | 13:31 |
| zmoylan-pi | free soup? where? :-P | 13:33 |
| davmor2 | zmoylan-pi: you have it upside down it says puos eerf | 13:37 |
| zmoylan-pi | my mistake, thank you davmor2 | 13:37 |
| diddledan | foobarry: why selling the shares? | 13:40 |
| foobarry | softbank bought them | 13:40 |
| foobarry | delisted from LSE | 13:41 |
| diddledan | oh right | 13:41 |
| foobarry | enforced sale at £17 per share | 13:41 |
| foobarry | held them for 17 years | 13:41 |
| diddledan | I figured they'd sell you equivalent value in the combined co? | 13:41 |
| foobarry | if it had been for 10 or 20 yrs i would be rich | 13:42 |
| foobarry | nope, outright cash purchase | 13:42 |
| foobarry | i say cash, but they have massive debts | 13:42 |
| foobarry | but i hear intel are thinking of doing arm chips again | 13:42 |
| diddledan | TBH, stock markets are a dark art to my mind | 13:42 |
| foobarry | i only hold 2 shares | 13:43 |
| foobarry | i just think of them as i think of my star wars figures in the loft | 13:43 |
| diddledan | I can't wrap my tiny little mind around it :-) | 13:43 |
| foobarry | they have perceived market value which may rise and fall due to films and/or water damage | 13:43 |
| foobarry | although shars are less tangible and less fun to playt with | 13:44 |
| diddledan | :-o they're not mint-in-the-box?! | 13:44 |
| diddledan | (ref: toy story) | 13:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | not if they're kept in the loft i suspect | 13:45 |
| popey | http://i.imgur.com/XS5LK.gif | 13:45 |
| diddledan | lmao | 13:45 |
| diddledan | I like cap'n murrica | 13:45 |
| diddledan | he's fun | 13:45 |
| popey | testing my new cheapo headphones with some Jarre | 13:45 |
| popey | These are amazing for the price https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00UNL7YR8 | 13:46 |
| diddledan | although hulk is pretty humorous too | 13:46 |
| zmoylan-pi | but but they won't work with new iphone!! | 13:47 |
| diddledan | ten squids?! that's cheap at half the price! | 13:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | you could get 2 pi zeros for that... :-) | 13:47 |
| popey | yeah, and really nice braided cable | 13:47 |
| popey | so no twisty | 13:48 |
| popey | went outside and mowed the lawn at lunchtime with them on listening to the world at one | 13:48 |
| foobarry | i just bought my wife some MEE earphones | 13:51 |
| foobarry | https://www.amazon.co.uk/MEE-audio-Sport-Fi-Isolating-Headphones/dp/B0038W0K2K | 13:52 |
| foobarry | sennheiser keep changing their models | 13:52 |
| popey | ooh they look good, wifey needs some for the gym | 13:53 |
| popey | she keeps stealing everyone elses | 13:53 |
| foobarry | they stay in a bit better | 13:53 |
| popey | which led to this http://imgur.com/a/xOiFt | 13:54 |
| diplo | I need some new headphones like that but bluetooth, my 3.5 doesn't work overly well :( | 13:55 |
| popey | diplo: any job news? | 13:56 |
| diplo | Last two bluetooth ones I've bought have either broke or not charged | 13:56 |
| diplo | Didn't get it :( | 13:56 |
| popey | aw :( | 13:56 |
| popey | bluetooth sucks | 13:56 |
| popey | [FACT] | 13:56 |
| foobarry | bluetooth is so needy | 13:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | my bluetooth headphones ran out of juice day before yesterday... first time... | 13:56 |
| diplo | Guy who did lived in the same city and had experience with some of the tech i hadn't ( Docker / cfEngine ) | 13:56 |
| foobarry | it likes exlusive friendships | 13:56 |
| diplo | But jobs mine if it falls through | 13:56 |
| * diddledan gives diplo a consolatory hug | 13:56 | |
| zmoylan-pi | fingers crossed you get the next job... | 13:57 |
| diddledan | diplo: I'm trying to find work, too, so I feel your pain | 13:57 |
| * foobarry gives diplo an awkward fist bump hug, side hug thing | 13:57 | |
| diplo | Bluetooth works well for me, I use a portable speaker amongst other things for music | 13:57 |
| foobarry | i'm going thru my usual "do i have to find another job" thing that happens every 2 motnhs | 13:57 |
| diplo | It sucks, but it's good experience, fair amount of work around here, just wish I didn't have to travel to Bristol | 13:57 |
| foobarry | from? | 13:58 |
| diddledan | birmingham? :-p | 13:58 |
| diddledan | that would be a hellish commute! | 13:58 |
| diplo | Place called Trowbridge, it's not overly far, the traffic is hell | 13:58 |
| foobarry | near bath | 13:59 |
| foobarry | there's jobs in bath | 13:59 |
| diplo | Trains suck, 2 carriages when there used to be 4, cheaper by car but takes longer, also not to sure I want to work in Bristol :D | 13:59 |
| foobarry | saw a good one recently | 13:59 |
| diplo | Yeah the one they were talking about above was in Bath | 13:59 |
| diplo | Devops Engineer foobarry ? | 13:59 |
| diplo | Got another one coming soon in a quaint little town called bradford on avon :) even closer | 14:00 |
| foobarry | nah i think it was more up my street | 14:00 |
| foobarry | hpc stuff | 14:01 |
| foobarry | may have been a generic linux admin actualyl, i don't remember | 14:01 |
| diplo | ah I saw that | 14:01 |
| diplo | quite a few around here I've applied for, got sent one for windows that I could probably do, but I've not been around windows servers much in the last 5-6 years ( not that its hard ) and that puts some people off | 14:03 |
| diplo | diddledan: Lost job or just looking ? | 14:05 |
| diddledan | company I been working for has stopped sending me enough work so I need to find someone else to give me work to make ends-meet | 14:07 |
| foobarry | brexit | 14:10 |
| diddledan | brexit broke it | 14:10 |
| diddledan | :-p | 14:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | brexit is going to be blamed for everything for a few years... | 14:10 |
| diddledan | yup | 14:10 |
| diplo | That sucks, self employed ? | 14:11 |
| ali1234 | speaking of brexit, RAM prices are now up 40% compared to june | 14:11 |
| foobarry | oof | 14:11 |
| diddledan | self-employed only 'cos the company I was working for wanted the flexibility to do what they done :-p | 14:12 |
| diplo | :/ | 14:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | did they give you a red shirt when you started? :-P | 14:13 |
| diddledan | haha | 14:13 |
| diddledan | dropbox are in hot water? https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/09/dropbox-responds-to-accusations-its-mac-desktop-client-hacks-os-x-security/ | 14:37 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: yeah cause it is not like Apple do a competing cloud storage solution is it ;) | 14:45 |
| diddledan | no, apple would never do that | 14:48 |
| diddledan | https://boingboing.net/2016/09/14/a-powerful-attacker-is-systema.html | 14:55 |
| czajkowski | Greetings from the Ubuntu UK meetup | 17:30 |
| diddledan | once again apple does the $1 === £1 trick: http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MMEF2ZM/A/airpods | 19:56 |
| diddledan | why was I unaware of a meetup?! | 19:58 |
| * diddledan rolls the rock back over himself | 19:58 | |
| zmoylan-pi | it means going out into natural light... | 19:59 |
| * diddledan hisses | 20:00 | |
| ali1234 | okay why can't my dvd drive read the windows install cd?? | 21:35 |
| ali1234 | it works fine with linux boot discs | 21:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | your pc is trying to protect you... :-P | 21:36 |
| ali1234 | it isn't my pc | 21:36 |
| zmoylan-pi | right way up? /obvious | 21:37 |
| zmoylan-pi | clean, scratched... | 21:38 |
| czajkowski | diddledan: they'll promote it more next time | 21:45 |
| czajkowski | I only knew as I saw popey RT a blog post about it today | 21:45 |
| daftykins | ali1234: which version... and from which OS? you trying to just boot it? | 22:05 |
| ali1234 | there's something wrong with the drive... it's rattling now | 22:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | air duster handy? | 22:10 |
| daftykins | sounds like a wonky lens | 22:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | not when it's rattly in my experience... | 22:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | rattling is when the drive is either slipping while trying to spin it up or some other motor problem | 22:12 |
| daftykins | true, i was trying to remember what it was my last drive was doing when it kept trying to refocus | 22:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | when lens is wonky it'll spin happily but just never show a byte of data | 22:12 |
| daftykins | mmm or error like this one was doing when ripping music (only use i have for CD :) | 22:13 |
| daftykins | heh i just ordered an 8 piece ratcheting spanner set for an aircraft engineer friend back home, here in the US - it's £80 back home without tax, i just got it £41 delivered | 22:14 |
| zmoylan-pi | i did have one cd explode when it was put into a 32x drive... spun up... *crunched* and sounded like a glass breaking | 22:14 |
| daftykins | nice :) i heard that's why they stopped at 52x, discs couldn't take it | 22:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | they could bring back disc caddies for higher speeds | 22:15 |
| daftykins | iirc 52x was already 10,000RPM | 22:16 |
| zmoylan-pi | of course someone could get smart and keep the disc stationary and make a head that spins faster | 22:16 |
| daftykins | haha | 22:17 |
| zmoylan-pi | and we could call it.... a hard disc... :-) | 22:17 |
| daftykins | "...improvements can still be obtained using multiple laser pickups as demonstrated by the Kenwood TrueX 72× which uses seven laser beams and a rotation speed of approximately 10×." | 22:17 |
| ali1234 | it sounds like the spindle motor has a ball bearing rolling around inside it | 22:18 |
| daftykins | what's the machine and the task? optical media seems like such a ghetto choice | 22:19 |
| ali1234 | how else am i supposed to install windows? | 22:19 |
| zmoylan-pi | well... they are installing windows... :-) | 22:19 |
| daftykins | ali1234: flash drive... | 22:19 |
| ali1234 | how do i put windows 10 install cd on a flash drive? | 22:20 |
| daftykins | is the system legacy only? | 22:20 |
| daftykins | non-EFI | 22:20 |
| ali1234 | no | 22:20 |
| daftykins | ok, so format a drive as FAT32, extract the ISO contents into the root, preserving /boot and it'll be immediately EFI bootable | 22:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | laptop or desktop? | 22:20 |
| ali1234 | it worked eventually | 22:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | huzzah | 22:57 |
| ali1234 | i'm making a flash drive anyway | 22:58 |
| zmoylan-pi | nothing worse than been onsite and having failures you could bypass in 10 minutes back at base | 22:58 |
| ali1234 | huh... it's showing the msi logo and underneath it says "getting ready" | 23:00 |
| daftykins | yes the EFI systems are able to present the OEM logo merged with the Windows boot logo | 23:01 |
| ali1234 | okay what do i need to turn off on the first boot screen? | 23:01 |
| daftykins | everything | 23:02 |
| daftykins | and when it asks for an account there's a subtle option so you can avoid creating a Microsoft Account | 23:02 |
| ali1234 | even smartscreen? | 23:03 |
| daftykins | well you can keep it if the user is not very bright, but it'll just be a hassle mostly | 23:04 |
| ali1234 | argh why is it so slow | 23:05 |
| ali1234 | oh, its getting everything ready for me | 23:06 |
| daftykins | yeah it'll be hands off for a couple of mins even on a high end device | 23:07 |
| ali1234 | lol already got a weird error message in less than one minute after the desktop is up | 23:08 |
| daftykins | never had issues here, could be your media - hope you installed the anniversary build :> | 23:09 |
| daftykins | time for a good windows update lap | 23:09 |
| daftykins | if you do the bare minimum to get on wifi, windows update will handle _all_ the drivers | 23:10 |
| ali1234 | i have to install drivers first because literally nothing works | 23:10 |
| daftykins | or wired. | 23:10 |
| daftykins | ok so just do one of the two then | 23:10 |
| daftykins | no need for anything else | 23:10 |
| ali1234 | why is the cd drive i: | 23:13 |
| daftykins | card readers? | 23:14 |
| ali1234 | ah yeah | 23:14 |
| ali1234 | loads of them | 23:14 |
| daftykins | heh must be a multiformat sucker in there, mmm - in explorer empty drives are hidden by default now | 23:14 |
| ali1234 | that's cool | 23:14 |
| daftykins | sometimes they're a safely removable USB device so i select that to remove it, change optical to D: again and then reboot | 23:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | but a and b are still reserved in case you go mad and install 2 floppy drives? :-) | 23:15 |
| daftykins | aww yis | 23:16 |
| ali1234 | well i could just unplug them from the motherboard | 23:16 |
| ali1234 | and do that | 23:16 |
| daftykins | oh it's a desktop... well that's more effort than 2 clicks | 23:16 |
| daftykins | also right clicking the start menu / super + X is a great shortcut to all the kinds of admin stuffs you want to get to on Windows typically | 23:16 |
| ali1234 | but how do i remove the USb device if there is nothing in it? other than unplugging it? | 23:17 |
| daftykins | the safely remove icon in the system tray | 23:18 |
| daftykins | *sometimes* it's an entry | 23:18 |
| ali1234 | they aren't shown there because there is nothing plugged in | 23:18 |
| ali1234 | no cards | 23:18 |
| ali1234 | actually i figured it out | 23:19 |
| ali1234 | devices and printers -> right click -> remove device | 23:19 |
| daftykins | no that's not how it always works, sometimes it shows the parent reader | 23:19 |
| daftykins | yeah that'll work! | 23:19 |
| daftykins | kind of been doing Windows stuff for a fair time :> | 23:20 |
| daftykins | sometimes amuses me how much ubuntu support i can give despite not even using it, too... | 23:20 |
| daftykins | or should i say used to give :D | 23:20 |
| ali1234 | cool, it works | 23:22 |
| ali1234 | says it is updating onedrive | 23:22 |
| daftykins | yip automatic from install, i disable that from startup in its' settings | 23:23 |
| daftykins | the Windows Defender system tray icon can be disabled on the startup tab of task manager too, although it's probably handy to keep for noob users | 23:24 |
| daftykins | so they know there's some level of protection | 23:24 |
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