[00:37] hola [02:10] \o [02:10] mapps: what's new? [02:21] not much, almost finished last ship s2;) [02:21] on e12/13 s2 then got all of s3 to watch [02:21] also need to watch narcos s2 [02:21] well.not 'need':P [02:22] XD [02:22] i'm in Boulder,Colorado right now [02:24] sweet [02:24] how long for [02:25] just done a few days hiking around Rocky Mountain National Park, here until Friday then off to Kansas for a baseball game, then more places after [02:25] sweet [02:25] how long in the states for total [02:25] http://imgur.com/a/TdW16 [02:25] 3 weeks about :) [02:26] gonna go wendys?:D [02:26] lol [02:27] haha i've enjoyed a mcdonalds so far :> [02:28] heh [02:28] go to some cool places, you like steak, shrimp etc? [02:32] don't have any fast food on Guernsey of course ;) [02:32] never been hugely into steak but i'm going around trying more bbq yeah [02:32] oh none? i mean here we have burger king/mcdonalds, no kfc, no subway [02:33] no nandos [02:33] see how much weight you can gain eatimng xxxl meals heh [02:33] sadly i've done that already! [02:33] did you have to fly to the uk first then or fly somewhere else? [02:33] first day of hiking kicked my ass, i've gotten so unfit since my cycle spill 2 years ago [02:33] had perma pain start up in the intercostal muscles between the ribs i broke back then [02:34] bit of a wake up call :) [02:34] still hurts? [02:34] yeah from the heavy breathing of the exercise at high altitude (hiked up hills to 10,000 feet) it set the pain off [02:35] aha [02:35] will it ever not hurt or will it always be there [02:35] yeah up to Gatwick on the 7am, found out my 11:20am flight was delayed 'til 2pm... which meant i missed my Toronto -> Denver flight, so had to go via Chicago which meant i ended up travelling and awake for like 26+ hours straight >_< [02:36] i mean it hasn't hurt 'til now apart from a couple of spells when i was doing exercise at home and was heavily breathing to catch my breath [02:36] just need to exercise and get back in shape i think [02:36] what happens with the toronto - denver flight..do they refund your ticket, or do you get screwed by it [02:37] so i was already carrying the next boarding pass, just had to go to a desk and find where i was rebooked for [02:38] they dont charge you? even if its diff airlines? i thought they might as they could say its no their issue [02:41] nah, in fact i can even get a partial refund since they delayed me over 5 hours [02:41] looking it up now [02:41] so how did the 2nd leg know to rebook you ? if its a diff airline to first [02:43] the first must talk to the second auto === pavlushka is now known as Guest78383 === Guest78383 is now known as pavlushka [08:00] morning boys and girls. [08:04] Morning all [08:06] mornin' [08:10] morning davmor2 and Gargoyle [08:13] brobostigon: morning dude [08:14] :) [08:25] what does if ( $var =~ "jeff" ) in perl mean [08:25] contains? [08:26] =~ should have a regex after it [08:26] so that'd be equivalent to $var =~ m/jeff/ [08:26] and, yeah, $var contains jeff [08:26] hmm it just has "jeff" [08:26] ah ok [08:26] how can i edit it to say [08:27] I'd imagine; m"jeff" would work like that, I don't really know what it does without the m [08:27] if $var contains jeff or bob? [08:27] if ($var =~ m/(jeff|bob)/) [08:27] brill , thanks [08:27] ah, it's nice to have an answer for someone in here for a change :) [08:28] woo [08:47] http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07v0hhm was interesting. worth a listen [08:52] I wish there was a "download this when it's available" button in the iplayer app [08:52] get_iplayer has pvr capability [08:52] cron that, and you can just add the url to get_iplayer [08:53] hah, yeah, I keep meaning to make some daft concoction that'll make it easy to make a podcast feed of all the stuff I want to get_iplayer [08:54] but I don't tend to listen to the radio at my PC so I've stopped using get_iplayer for radio stuff [08:56] Good morning all! Happy Wednesday, and happy Eat a Hoagie Day! 😃 [08:59] JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH8jAjtvc10 [09:00] eat a bogey ? [09:01] Well, if that's your thing.... [09:02] facebook has reset all my user ignores [09:04] Anyone in London tonight going to http://www.meetup.com/Ubuntu-UK-Local-Community-Team/events/233941286/ [11:06] Good day all, I've had the go ahead from my boss for attendance at the Gstreamer conference for myself and a colleague, however when i try to buy the professional early bird tickets for 2, the form comes back saying only 1 is available...? [11:07] not sure that's something we can help with, is it? [11:08] ah yes, sorry, thought i'd connected to the GStreamer channel! [11:08] however, I just went to https://ti.to/gstreamer-conference-2016/gstreamer-conference-2016 [11:08] and changed number to 2 and continue and it says buy two [11:33] Heh http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/09/ubuntu-torrent-removed-google-infringing-transformers-movie [11:38] silly rabbits [11:42] popey: I think you mean wasically wabbit [13:04] popey: can you moderate a mail to the UK list please :) [13:08] done [13:08] cheers! [13:20] sad to say goodbye to my ARM shares :( [13:21] you'll have to go out and get legless too... :-P [13:31] it's not goodbye, it's 明日 [13:33] free soup? where? :-P [13:37] zmoylan-pi: you have it upside down it says puos eerf [13:37] my mistake, thank you davmor2 [13:40] foobarry: why selling the shares? [13:40] softbank bought them [13:41] delisted from LSE [13:41] oh right [13:41] enforced sale at £17 per share [13:41] held them for 17 years [13:41] I figured they'd sell you equivalent value in the combined co? [13:42] if it had been for 10 or 20 yrs i would be rich [13:42] nope, outright cash purchase [13:42] i say cash, but they have massive debts [13:42] but i hear intel are thinking of doing arm chips again [13:42] TBH, stock markets are a dark art to my mind [13:43] i only hold 2 shares [13:43] i just think of them as i think of my star wars figures in the loft [13:43] I can't wrap my tiny little mind around it :-) [13:43] they have perceived market value which may rise and fall due to films and/or water damage [13:44] although shars are less tangible and less fun to playt with [13:44] :-o they're not mint-in-the-box?! [13:44] (ref: toy story) [13:45] not if they're kept in the loft i suspect [13:45] http://i.imgur.com/XS5LK.gif [13:45] lmao [13:45] I like cap'n murrica [13:45] he's fun [13:45] testing my new cheapo headphones with some Jarre [13:46] These are amazing for the price https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00UNL7YR8 [13:46] although hulk is pretty humorous too [13:47] but but they won't work with new iphone!! [13:47] ten squids?! that's cheap at half the price! [13:47] you could get 2 pi zeros for that... :-) [13:47] yeah, and really nice braided cable [13:48] so no twisty [13:48] went outside and mowed the lawn at lunchtime with them on listening to the world at one [13:51] i just bought my wife some MEE earphones [13:52] https://www.amazon.co.uk/MEE-audio-Sport-Fi-Isolating-Headphones/dp/B0038W0K2K [13:52] sennheiser keep changing their models [13:53] ooh they look good, wifey needs some for the gym [13:53] she keeps stealing everyone elses [13:53] they stay in a bit better [13:54] which led to this http://imgur.com/a/xOiFt [13:55] I need some new headphones like that but bluetooth, my 3.5 doesn't work overly well :( [13:56] diplo: any job news? [13:56] Last two bluetooth ones I've bought have either broke or not charged [13:56] Didn't get it :( [13:56] aw :( [13:56] bluetooth sucks [13:56] [FACT] [13:56] bluetooth is so needy [13:56] my bluetooth headphones ran out of juice day before yesterday... first time... [13:56] Guy who did lived in the same city and had experience with some of the tech i hadn't ( Docker / cfEngine ) [13:56] it likes exlusive friendships [13:56] But jobs mine if it falls through [13:56] * diddledan gives diplo a consolatory hug [13:57] fingers crossed you get the next job... [13:57] diplo: I'm trying to find work, too, so I feel your pain [13:57] * foobarry gives diplo an awkward fist bump hug, side hug thing [13:57] Bluetooth works well for me, I use a portable speaker amongst other things for music [13:57] i'm going thru my usual "do i have to find another job" thing that happens every 2 motnhs [13:57] It sucks, but it's good experience, fair amount of work around here, just wish I didn't have to travel to Bristol [13:58] from? [13:58] birmingham? :-p [13:58] that would be a hellish commute! [13:58] Place called Trowbridge, it's not overly far, the traffic is hell [13:59] near bath [13:59] there's jobs in bath [13:59] Trains suck, 2 carriages when there used to be 4, cheaper by car but takes longer, also not to sure I want to work in Bristol :D [13:59] saw a good one recently [13:59] Yeah the one they were talking about above was in Bath [13:59] Devops Engineer foobarry ? [14:00] Got another one coming soon in a quaint little town called bradford on avon :) even closer [14:00] nah i think it was more up my street [14:01] hpc stuff [14:01] may have been a generic linux admin actualyl, i don't remember [14:01] ah I saw that [14:03] quite a few around here I've applied for, got sent one for windows that I could probably do, but I've not been around windows servers much in the last 5-6 years ( not that its hard ) and that puts some people off [14:05] diddledan: Lost job or just looking ? [14:07] company I been working for has stopped sending me enough work so I need to find someone else to give me work to make ends-meet [14:10] brexit [14:10] brexit broke it [14:10] :-p [14:10] brexit is going to be blamed for everything for a few years... [14:10] yup [14:11] That sucks, self employed ? [14:11] speaking of brexit, RAM prices are now up 40% compared to june [14:11] oof [14:12] self-employed only 'cos the company I was working for wanted the flexibility to do what they done :-p [14:12] :/ [14:13] did they give you a red shirt when you started? :-P [14:13] haha [14:37] dropbox are in hot water? https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/09/dropbox-responds-to-accusations-its-mac-desktop-client-hacks-os-x-security/ [14:45] diddledan: yeah cause it is not like Apple do a competing cloud storage solution is it ;) [14:48] no, apple would never do that [14:55] https://boingboing.net/2016/09/14/a-powerful-attacker-is-systema.html [17:30] Greetings from the Ubuntu UK meetup [19:56] once again apple does the $1 === £1 trick: http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MMEF2ZM/A/airpods [19:58] why was I unaware of a meetup?! [19:58] * diddledan rolls the rock back over himself [19:59] it means going out into natural light... [20:00] * diddledan hisses [21:35] okay why can't my dvd drive read the windows install cd?? [21:35] it works fine with linux boot discs [21:36] your pc is trying to protect you... :-P [21:36] it isn't my pc [21:37] right way up? /obvious [21:38] clean, scratched... [21:45] diddledan: they'll promote it more next time [21:45] I only knew as I saw popey RT a blog post about it today [22:05] ali1234: which version... and from which OS? you trying to just boot it? [22:10] there's something wrong with the drive... it's rattling now [22:10] air duster handy? [22:11] sounds like a wonky lens [22:11] not when it's rattly in my experience... [22:12] rattling is when the drive is either slipping while trying to spin it up or some other motor problem [22:12] true, i was trying to remember what it was my last drive was doing when it kept trying to refocus [22:12] when lens is wonky it'll spin happily but just never show a byte of data [22:13] mmm or error like this one was doing when ripping music (only use i have for CD :) [22:14] heh i just ordered an 8 piece ratcheting spanner set for an aircraft engineer friend back home, here in the US - it's £80 back home without tax, i just got it £41 delivered [22:14] i did have one cd explode when it was put into a 32x drive... spun up... *crunched* and sounded like a glass breaking [22:15] nice :) i heard that's why they stopped at 52x, discs couldn't take it [22:15] they could bring back disc caddies for higher speeds [22:16] iirc 52x was already 10,000RPM [22:16] of course someone could get smart and keep the disc stationary and make a head that spins faster [22:17] haha [22:17] and we could call it.... a hard disc... :-) [22:17] "...improvements can still be obtained using multiple laser pickups as demonstrated by the Kenwood TrueX 72× which uses seven laser beams and a rotation speed of approximately 10×." [22:18] it sounds like the spindle motor has a ball bearing rolling around inside it [22:19] what's the machine and the task? optical media seems like such a ghetto choice [22:19] how else am i supposed to install windows? [22:19] well... they are installing windows... :-) [22:19] ali1234: flash drive... [22:20] how do i put windows 10 install cd on a flash drive? [22:20] is the system legacy only? [22:20] non-EFI [22:20] no [22:20] ok, so format a drive as FAT32, extract the ISO contents into the root, preserving /boot and it'll be immediately EFI bootable [22:20] laptop or desktop? [22:57] it worked eventually [22:57] huzzah [22:58] i'm making a flash drive anyway [22:58] nothing worse than been onsite and having failures you could bypass in 10 minutes back at base [23:00] huh... it's showing the msi logo and underneath it says "getting ready" [23:01] yes the EFI systems are able to present the OEM logo merged with the Windows boot logo [23:01] okay what do i need to turn off on the first boot screen? [23:02] everything [23:02] and when it asks for an account there's a subtle option so you can avoid creating a Microsoft Account [23:03] even smartscreen? [23:04] well you can keep it if the user is not very bright, but it'll just be a hassle mostly [23:05] argh why is it so slow [23:06] oh, its getting everything ready for me [23:07] yeah it'll be hands off for a couple of mins even on a high end device [23:08] lol already got a weird error message in less than one minute after the desktop is up [23:09] never had issues here, could be your media - hope you installed the anniversary build :> [23:09] time for a good windows update lap [23:10] if you do the bare minimum to get on wifi, windows update will handle _all_ the drivers [23:10] i have to install drivers first because literally nothing works [23:10] or wired. [23:10] ok so just do one of the two then [23:10] no need for anything else [23:13] why is the cd drive i: [23:14] card readers? [23:14] ah yeah [23:14] loads of them [23:14] heh must be a multiformat sucker in there, mmm - in explorer empty drives are hidden by default now [23:14] that's cool [23:15] sometimes they're a safely removable USB device so i select that to remove it, change optical to D: again and then reboot [23:15] but a and b are still reserved in case you go mad and install 2 floppy drives? :-) [23:16] aww yis [23:16] well i could just unplug them from the motherboard [23:16] and do that [23:16] oh it's a desktop... well that's more effort than 2 clicks [23:16] also right clicking the start menu / super + X is a great shortcut to all the kinds of admin stuffs you want to get to on Windows typically [23:17] but how do i remove the USb device if there is nothing in it? other than unplugging it? [23:18] the safely remove icon in the system tray [23:18] *sometimes* it's an entry [23:18] they aren't shown there because there is nothing plugged in [23:18] no cards [23:19] actually i figured it out [23:19] devices and printers -> right click -> remove device [23:19] no that's not how it always works, sometimes it shows the parent reader [23:19] yeah that'll work! [23:20] kind of been doing Windows stuff for a fair time :> [23:20] sometimes amuses me how much ubuntu support i can give despite not even using it, too... [23:20] or should i say used to give :D [23:22] cool, it works [23:22] says it is updating onedrive [23:23] yip automatic from install, i disable that from startup in its' settings [23:24] the Windows Defender system tray icon can be disabled on the startup tab of task manager too, although it's probably handy to keep for noob users [23:24] so they know there's some level of protection