[00:03] <kklimonda> has anyone had a problem with 16.04 server preseed install getting stuck at NTP? It works fine the moment I switch to second vt (alt+f2) and press enter to login.
[02:59] <NSABear> ubuntu server is the most minimalistic I can get
[02:59] <NSABear> right
[03:11] <RoyK> NSABear: nah - you can build small things yourself that are fare tinier, debian is also a bit smaller, but mostly the same
[03:11] <NSABear> RoyK, well
[03:11] <NSABear> minimalistic ubuntu
[03:11] <NSABear> I'm installing on a laptop
[03:11] <RoyK> server install on a laptop?
[03:12] <NSABear> yes
[03:12] <RoyK> what's the use for this?
[03:12] <NSABear> laptop
[03:13] <RoyK> ok, then better use lubuntu or something
[03:13] <NSABear> heh
[03:13] <RoyK> or perhaps install lxde on that laptop after the server parts are installed
[03:13] <NSABear> I guess I'll use debian with lubuntu / openbox then
[03:13] <RoyK> what sort of hardware?
[03:14] <NSABear> i7 2620m
[03:14] <NSABear> 4gb rma
[03:15] <RoyK> should suffice well for a normal ubuntu install
[03:16] <RoyK> or debian, or whatever
[03:16] <NSABear> not a fan of the bloat of ubuntu
[03:16] <NSABear> hate the arch eliteism
[03:17] <RoyK> well, /j #debian
[03:17] <NSABear>  :\
[03:17] <NSABear> Ubuntu has ancient packages unfortunately
[03:17] <NSABear> debian*
[03:17] <RoyK> not really
[03:17] <RoyK> debian 8 has rather new software
[03:17] <NSABear> you ever use Debian?
[03:17] <NSABear> lel
[03:18] <NSABear> Debian 8 is still behind
[03:18] <NSABear> I love debian but damn the packages are old.
[03:18] <RoyK> debian will always be behind somehow, but *never* as far behind as redhat/centos
[03:18] <RoyK> it's part of the game, not having new shiny shit, but just having the things that really work
[03:19] <RoyK> well-proven software and not whatever's on the tree this day
[03:19] <NSABear> yea
[03:20] <RoyK> anyway - you got my advice - I'm not in the mood of a distro war tonight
[03:22] <NSABear> not a distro war
[03:22] <NSABear> It's the reality of ubuntu
[03:22] <NSABear> debian*
[03:22] <NSABear> blagh
[03:23] <NSABear> I've used it since what, 6?
[03:23] <NSABear> 5?
[03:24] <RoyK> debian has always been conservative - the fact that deb8 switched systemd upset a lot of people, but it still works well
[03:24] <RoyK> so up to you
[03:24] <NSABear> I don't understand the systemd hate when it coems to "the unix way!111"
[03:24] <NSABear> Linux = Linux Is Not UniX
[03:24] <RoyK> same thing, more or less
[03:25] <RoyK> I've worked with a lot of different uninces
[03:25] <NSABear> im so sorry.
[03:25] <NSABear> AIX?
[03:25] <RoyK> BSD things, AIX, Solaris
[03:25] <RoyK> and linux, and linux and linux
[03:25]  * NSABear holds RoyK 
[03:25] <NSABear> I'm, I'm so sorry.
[03:25] <NSABear> No one should have to suffer like that.
[03:25] <RoyK> I setup my first linux machine in 1994
[03:26] <NSABear> 1.*
[03:26] <NSABear> ?
[03:26] <RoyK> I got badly addicted and stopped using windows shorty after - the addiction was severe until I met this girl with a mac and I could test OS X (which is also a (certified) unix OS), so that's my preference for the laptop OS
[03:27] <RoyK> IIRC it was slackware 2.1 with kernel 1.1.59
[03:27] <NSABear> I want to get a mac
[03:27] <NSABear> I really do.
[03:27] <RoyK> buggy as hell
[03:27] <NSABear> but the software so so ass backwards
[03:28] <RoyK> "brew install whateveropensourcesoftware"
[03:28] <RoyK> tataa
[03:28] <RoyK> works well
[03:29] <NSABear> how about linux on a macbook
[03:29] <NSABear> good...?
[03:29] <RoyK> works like a dream
[03:29] <NSABear> everything?
[03:29] <RoyK> this one is a macbook pro retina - dualboot with ubuntu and os x
[03:29] <RoyK> haven't seen any issues with neither
[03:29] <NSABear> woo
[03:29] <NSABear> battery life?
[03:30] <RoyK> usually around 5-6+ hours depending on what you do
[03:30] <RoyK> theoretically around 8h
[03:30] <RoyK> but again - that's theory :P
[03:32] <RoyK> pretty expensive thing, though - guess  you can find a more affordable laptop elsewhere
[03:34] <NSABear> RoyK, How about with osx
[03:34] <RoyK> it just works
[03:35] <RoyK> x11 (or xQuartz) works well too
[03:35] <NSABear> batteyr life
[03:35] <RoyK> not integrated with the os x gui, though
[03:35] <RoyK> you asked about that
[03:36] <NSABear> how's the battery life on osx
[03:37] <RoyK> tbh, I haven't used Linux enogh on this to measure the battery life - my numbers were from os x
[03:37] <RoyK> guess it'll be about the same
[05:20] <sonu_nk> Hi , I have a ubuntu server and facing FTP issue ...  I am connecting with my ftp user on one pc it is working fine means connecting but on second pc it is shwoing Network error: Connection timed out
[05:24] <sarnold> sonu_nk: ftp is a terrible protocol
[05:25] <sarnold> sonu_nk: if one endpoint is on the other side of a NAT firewall, it's difficult to use correctly
[05:25] <sarnold> sonu_nk: if both endpoints are behind NAT firewalls, it's basically impossible to use
[05:26] <sonu_nk> sarnold: ok . i dont have much knowledge for the server.. only have basic ubuntu server knowledge.. Also wht could be the issue and how to solve?
[05:27] <sarnold> sonu_nk: do other protocols work between the computers?
[05:29] <sonu_nk> sarnold: sorry not getting
[05:29] <sarnold> sonu_nk: can you ssh from one to the other? or http?
[05:29] <sarnold> ping?
[05:29] <sonu_nk> i can open ssh using my ubuntu desktop
[05:31] <sonu_nk> sarnold: is that was the correct ans of your question ?
[05:32] <sarnold> sonu_nk: you can ssh from one computer to the other but not ftp?
[05:35] <sonu_nk> sarnold: but i tried on another system i cant login with ssh as root user
[05:37] <dax> ssh as root is disabled on Ubuntu by default, as is the root account in general
[05:38] <sonu_nk> dax: with ssh root@myip i can login and can ls also
[05:38] <sonu_nk> on ubuntu
[05:38] <sonu_nk> but with putty it is not working .. i tested on windows
[06:56] <sonu_nk> Hi there
[06:56] <cpaelzer> Hi
[09:33] <munsking> Hello, i'm having issues with isc-dhcp-server, i want it to give out 10.0.0.0-10.0.0.254 but whenever my client tries to connect to it, the server says it has no leases to give (fresh installs, they're the only 2 hosts in the virtual network)
[09:33] <sonu_nk> Hi my SFTP not able to connect with another system if its connected on One pc using FileZilla
[09:38] <sarnold> munsking: 'normally' the 10.0.0.0 address itself would be a 'network' address rather than a machine address; and convention would often place a gateway on 10.0.0.1... are you sure that you want to hand out 10.0.0.0-10.0.0.254?
[09:39] <munsking> sarnold: yea sorry, explained that badly, i want 10.0.0.2-10.0.0.254 for the clients
[09:39] <sarnold> munsking: aha, good, that sounds more likely to work :)
[09:40] <sarnold> munsking: is it configured to listen on the correct interface?
[09:40] <sarnold> anything else in the logs that stand out?
[09:41] <munsking> sarnold: yes, eth0 (eth1 is the WAN connection)
[09:41] <munsking> sarnold: only the "no free leases" part
[09:42] <sarnold> munsking: ip a and ip r look fine?
[09:42] <munsking> ip a? ip r?
[09:43] <munsking> oh the commands, didn't know you could just use the first letter
[09:44] <sarnold> handy for lazy people like me :)
[09:44] <munsking> sarnold: http://i.imgur.com/YLz0KBB.png
[09:45] <munsking> to me that mostly looks fine, but then again, i suck at networking
[09:45] <sarnold> hah
[09:45] <sarnold> and I'm the one who tried moving the mouse to see the text  'subnet 10.0.0.0'
[09:46] <munsking> lol, sorry about that
[09:47] <sarnold> munsking: the log messages say network 10.0.0.0/8
[09:47] <sarnold> munsking: i'd expect 10.0.0.0/24 instead
[09:47] <munsking> hmm, true
[09:47] <sarnold> OH
[09:47] <munsking> lemme check what does that
[09:48] <sarnold> that first line
[09:48] <sarnold> the one where I got distracted by the mouse pointer
[09:48] <munsking> yea i see it
[09:48] <munsking> 255.0.0.0 vs 255.255.255.0
[09:48] <sarnold> set that netmask to match the other netmask
[09:48] <sarnold> I have to honest it's unlikely to be it
[09:48] <sarnold> but it bugs me :) and it was an easy discrepancy to spot
[09:49] <sarnold> also check the FULL logs of the unit file -- maybe there's a warning somewhere shortly after startup
[09:49] <munsking> what's the systemd log thingie again? something with -xn iirc
[09:50] <sarnold> journalctl mumble
[09:50] <munsking> ty
[09:52] <munsking> after service startup or of the entire system?
[09:52] <munsking> cause the service looks fine except for the no leases thing
[09:52] <sarnold> hmm
[09:52] <sarnold> how about dmesg?
[09:54] <munsking> can't find anything in there either
[09:55] <munsking> gotta go for lunch, back in a bit, thanks for the help so far!
[09:55] <sarnold> good luck
[09:55] <sarnold> it's well past my bed time :)
[10:46] <DanawarUK_> Hi Ubuntu server i am trying to setup 2 NFS servers and the client that connects would connect to one if that one went down then it would instantly connect to the other one is there any way to achive this?
[12:04] <jamespage> ThiagoCMC, ovs 2.6 snapshot and DPDK 16.07 are in newton-staging for the UCA _ about to promote to newton-proposed
[14:29] <danpawlik> Hello guys,  can you please tell me if there will be packages for Openstack Newton for Ubuntu Trusty release available in cloud archive?
[14:47]  * [gnubie] waves
[14:47] <[gnubie]> i’m on xenial amd64. if i execute debootstrap directly from the cli, i can successfully finish the debootstrap.. however, if i execute it within my script, i always ended up only until Extracting zlib1g…
[14:47] <[gnubie]> has anyone experience the same issue?
[14:56] <ThiagoCMC> jamespage, awesome! Thank you!
[14:56] <jamespage> ThiagoCMC, yw
[14:57] <jamespage> danpawlik, they already are
[14:57] <jamespage> sudo add-apt-repository cloud-archive:newton
[14:57] <jamespage> will get you b3
[14:57] <danpawlik> jamespage: but I don't see for trusty release
[14:58] <jamespage> danpawlik, yeah - I re-read you query - and then saw trusty
[14:58] <jamespage> danpawlik, newton is xenial onwards
[14:58] <jamespage> mitaka was the last trusty UCA release
[14:58] <danpawlik> jamespage: ok, thanks for information
[14:58] <jamespage> danpawlik, np
[15:03] <coreycb> jamespage, beisner: when you get a chance, qemu is ready to promote to -updates across the board for UCA releases
[15:04] <coreycb> jamespage, beisner: also  cinder 2:7.0.2-0ubuntu1~cloud1 is ready to promote to liberty-updates
[15:04] <jamespage> coreycb, okies
[15:05] <coreycb> jamespage, thanks. and one more!  heat 1:5.0.1-0ubuntu3.1~cloud1 -> liberty-updates
[15:35] <coreycb> jamespage, the new package versions for bug 1614131 were just promoted to xenial-updates and are ready to promote to mitaka-updates
[15:41] <coreycb> ddellav, I'm not seeing any debian core packages available to sync yet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23182569/
[15:42] <jamespage> coreycb, mitaka aodh cinder keystone nova qemu done
[15:42] <coreycb> jamespage, thanks!
[15:43] <jamespage> need todo liberty shortly
[15:44] <jamespage> coreycb, did you do regression tests for kilo and liberty? if so they covered the ceph update as well
[15:44] <coreycb> jamespage, yep
[15:44] <coreycb> jamespage, results are in the cards
[15:45] <jamespage> okies
[15:57] <jamespage> ddellav, coreycb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/neutron-fwaas/+bug/1619452 is still pending verification - its been in liberty-proposed for a while now
[15:57] <jamespage> did it get covered by the cinder/heat testing above?
[15:58] <jamespage> 6 days ago for reference
[15:59] <coreycb> jamespage, yes neutron and neutron-fwaas were included in regression testing
[15:59] <jamespage> good
[15:59] <jamespage> ddellav, can we get the tagging on that bug right then please :)
[16:00] <[gnubie]> anyone here can help me on my debootstrap issue? kindly take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/23182607/
[16:00] <ddellav> jamespage i'll take care of it
[16:01] <[gnubie]> i am wondering why i am always failing right after extracting zlib1g package.. the next step should be the installing of core packages..
[16:02] <jamespage> ddellav, ok
[16:06] <[gnubie]> anyone?
[16:07] <Pjusur> Any dpdk people here? Having some problems binding the nic
[16:07] <jamespage> coreycb, when did the kilo verification go through - just tieing up verification with the ceph stuff as well
[16:09] <coreycb> jamespage, 9/7
[16:09] <jamespage> coreycb, ok so ceph was in then as well
[16:09] <coreycb> jamespage, ok
[16:09] <jamespage> promoting with qemu
[16:12] <coreycb> ddellav, for bug 1619318, can you let me know which packages are done?
[16:12] <cpaelzer> Pjusur: dpdk people not having problems here - can I help?
[16:12] <coreycb> ddellav, first one I looked at was heat and I didn't find that you had a repo for it
[16:14] <cpaelzer> Pjusur: http://askubuntu.com/questions/786510/using-openvswitch-with-dpdk-in-ubuntu-16-04 and https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/serverguide/DPDK.html are my answer in like 80% of the time people ask - so I post them right away
[16:14] <cpaelzer> Pjusur: but please outline what isn't working for you
[16:16] <Pjusur> cpaelzer: yeah actually get the same error as him "could not open network device dpdk0 (No such device)" tho using the i211 card
[16:18]  * [gnubie] is waiting and crossing fingers…
[16:19] <cpaelzer> Pjusur: then it really is up to checking the logs
[16:19] <cpaelzer> Pjusur: I think I put most in these links already like good logs to compare and such
[16:19] <semiosis> [gnubie]: can you pastebin debootstrap output?
[16:20] <cpaelzer> Pjusur: once you find where your case differes put it into pastebinit and send it for review
[16:20] <[gnubie]> semiosis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23182607/
[16:20] <cpaelzer> Pjusur: usual steps 1. check if assignment is corect with dpdk nic bind 2. check logs what was going on when initializing
[16:20] <semiosis> [gnubie]: i mean without strace
[16:21] <ThiagoCMC> jamespage, is it in your plans to also upload QEmu 2.6 and Libvirt 2.1 to Newton's Xenial UCA?
[16:21] <[gnubie]> semiosis: please hold on. let me exeute again..
[16:21] <jamespage> ThiagoCMC, hmm - thinking about that this week
[16:21] <ThiagoCMC> Ok
[16:22] <cpaelzer> ThiagoCMC: jamespage: which just became qemu 2.6.1
[16:22] <jamespage> ThiagoCMC, they are expensive backports from a support/SRU perspective so I have to have a really good reason to
[16:22] <ThiagoCMC> Right... I'm not sure if you're familiar with the following bug report that I filled:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvswitch/+bug/1577256
[16:23] <cpaelzer> ThiagoCMC: I am :-)
[16:23] <ThiagoCMC> So, I'll test with current QEmu, and then, with new QEMu from your PPA and I'll let you know the results...
[16:23] <ThiagoCMC> I'm feeling that new qemu might be better for when with dpdk+virtio (just guess now, I'll try to bring the results ASAP)...   =)
[16:24] <cpaelzer> ThiagoCMC: yeah it was kind of unclear if upstream did anything explicitly to fix it, but there were so much changes that we can't know without testing
[16:24] <ThiagoCMC> sure, I understand... I'll do my best to test it ASAP, my test bed is still configured with IXIA, 2 10G NICs and etc...
[16:25] <cpaelzer> jgrimm: the in release migration test just worked on ppc64el
[16:26] <cpaelzer> jgrimm: cross release and s390x need some extra tomorrow - just in case you want to use stage 1 and 2 of the tests as well
[16:26] <cpaelzer> ThiagoCMC: I think with you data we can at least go back to dpdk/ovs upstream
[16:26] <jgrimm> cpaelzer, bah, i lost your hangout comments, can you pm me them back
[16:26] <cpaelzer> ThiagoCMC: although given the current time and state you might wait a bit and use what is in yakkety once released
[16:27] <cpaelzer> ThiagoCMC: but if it isn't too much throw your test at it and let me know if it crumbles
[16:27] <cpaelzer> jgrimm: will do so
[16:27] <jgrimm> thanks
[16:27] <Pjusur> cpaelzer: Tnx mate got it to work ;D just needed to modprobe the uio_pci_generic
[16:28] <ThiagoCMC> cpaelzer, sure... I'll try to test first, on LTS with Newton's Staging PPA, then with James' PPA, then on yakkety... But I can't deploy non-LTS in prod.
[16:29] <cpaelzer> Pjusur: yeah
[16:33] <[gnubie]> semiosis: kindly take a loot at http://paste.ubuntu.com/23182825/
[16:39] <semiosis> [gnubie]: hmm not sure about that, sorry
[16:39] <[gnubie]> semiosis: no worries..
[16:42] <jamespage> coreycb,
[16:42] <jamespage> Launchpad encountered an error during the following operation: copying a package.  cinder 2:8.1.0-0ubuntu1~cloud0 in trusty (source has no binaries to be copied)
[16:42] <jamespage> hmm
[16:42]  * jamespage looks
[16:44] <jamespage> coreycb, yeah it failed to build from source - we'll need to re-verify that before we can push that out
[16:44] <jamespage> sorry
[16:44] <jamespage> this is hard to see due to the private nature of the proposed and updates PPA's
[16:59] <powersj> The daily Yakkety server ISO is not currently installable. Seems to have older version of libpython3.5 packages resulting in broken package.
[17:00] <Daviey> jamespage: But it should be verifiable from the public mirror, no?
[17:00] <jamespage> Daviey, it will be once it actually builds
[17:00] <jamespage> nearly done
[17:01] <jamespage> Daviey, the gap is that the versions report looks at source package versions - which are correct here; its the binaries that are missing
[17:01] <powersj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23182890/ shows the failure (search for broken) archive itself looks to have the right version.
[17:01]  * jamespage makes a note to fix that and provide better feedback 
[17:02] <Daviey> jamespage: I did write an addon for the reprepro to also publish the build logs... But i don't think i ever landed it
[17:02] <jamespage> Daviey, oh congrats on kolla core status btw
[17:02] <jamespage> Daviey, no it did not...
[17:02] <Daviey> oh fanks
[17:19] <coreycb> jamespage, ddellav: python-ceilometerclient 2.6.1 and heat/keystone/trove rc1 uploaded.
[17:48] <law> has anyone done much work with graphite-web and Ubuntu 16.04?  I am having an absolute nightmare of a time getting it to start in gunicorn
[20:04] <cclarke> Is this the correct channel for ubuntu OpenStack issues or is there a better one I should use?
[20:07] <guntbert> cclarke: I don't know of a better one - can not help you though
[20:08] <cclarke> guntbert: thanks anyway.
[20:10] <cclarke> If anyone has used openstack, I am trying to deploy on Ubuntu 14 using MAAS/Juju. I have maas working and 5 physical servers in my test environment. Issues is that I can deploy everything except neutron-gateway which is blocked and error is: (config-changed) Missing relations: messaging
[20:10] <cclarke> Anyone have any ideas on what is causing that issue or has run into it before?
[21:45] <DexterF> hi
[21:48] <DexterF> installed server, now want xfce4 on it. installed ok. installed "nodm" as I want autologin anyway. cannot startx. EE. ~/.local belongs to root:root
[21:48] <DexterF> that correct liek that?
[21:49] <sarnold> DexterF: if that's the actual error, then "sudo chown dexterf:dexterf ~/.local" may be a good start
[21:50] <DexterF> sarnold: thoguht crossed me, but why would that dir not belong the user in the first place, fresh install
[21:51] <sarnold> DexterF: that can often happen if whatever command created the file/directory was accidently run with 'sudo' to address some other issue
[21:52] <DexterF> sarnold: the only significant subdirectory is mc. I installed with sudo aptitude of course, and then as root edited a file. first thing I did with it. from sudo bash.
[21:52] <DexterF> that could be it, couldn't it, sudo bash, mcedit, instead of in /root created everything in the user dir
[21:53] <sarnold> DexterF: that seems very plausible
[21:53] <lutostag> smoser: so for the lxc xenial cloud-init... its in proposed. Once it reaches updates will it be fixed or do we still need an updated lxc image?
[21:54] <DexterF> and there is xfce.
[21:55] <DexterF> any known issues with intel video drives?
[21:55] <DexterF> when I frag around items the display freezes up occasionally