[00:03] <stochastix> if i do,  snap find ,  is that supposed to list all of the snap available?  If I run snap find tele, I get telegram, but otherwise it is not in the long list?
[00:04] <stochastix> I am trying to just get an exhaustive list of the snaps available to look at them.
[00:04] <k1l> stochastix: iirc they changed something about the find command. but the people in #snappy will know better
[00:04] <OerHeks> correct, the list is limited.
[00:04] <stochastix> k1l: thanks, didnt know about snappy, ill ask in there.
[00:06] <rcunha-BR-RJ-SG> ...
[00:06] <rcunha-BR-RJ-SG> ...
[00:07] <stochastix> Are there snaps out there that are not included in search results, or for most part, does everyone put the snaps in the same place for everyone to find?
[00:09] <stochastix> I guess what I mean is, is there some central repo that every disrto looks to when the snap find command is run, or would I get a different listing of available packages in ubuntu as opposed to Arch?
[00:09] <OerHeks>  In the future, other stores should be available. http://snapcraft.io/docs/core/usage
[00:10] <k1l> stochastix: right now there is the main store run by canonical. but one can run own repos.
[00:11] <stochastix> Oh that is right, i remember an article now where someone at Cononical was talking about how simple it is to create your own store.
[00:11] <stochastix> Ok, so at this point everyone is pointing to the store run by canonical. Thanks, that is exactly what I was wondering about.
[00:11] <hdon> k1l, it's working great so far. thanks for the help :)
[00:12] <k1l> np
[00:14] <Bashing-om> stochastix: One source os going to be for all ? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/06/snap-to-be-universal-linux-package-format .
[00:14] <OerHeks> they are universal packages, so an 'other store' might have restrictions or other license.' and that is all possible.
[00:16] <stochastix> Bashing-om: one thing i was just thinking about is, if the huge list of deb files out there got ported to snap packs, that would create a huge incentive for snaps to just become the place to get packages for everyone.
[00:17] <OerHeks> snap & flatpack
[00:17] <stochastix> If im in say, Arch, and I have all of the ubuntu repo at my fingertops via snap, that is drool worthy
[00:18] <stochastix> tips^
[00:18] <stochastix> one package to rule them all hehe
[00:19] <tgm4883> something something 16 competing standards something something 17 competing standards
[00:19] <stochastix> OerHeks: hasnt snaps sort of pulled ahead in peoples minds as the winner between the two? Or is the race not nessecarily over yet?
[00:20] <stochastix> I cant spell for crap today.
[00:20] <tgm4883> stochastix: you think there's only 2?
[00:21] <OerHeks> it is no race, and there are other thoughts too indeed
[00:21] <stochastix> tgm4883: Only 2 with those sorts of features and potential as far as I know.
[00:21] <k1l> its more of the race between the companies behind it. snap is canonical. flatpack is redhat. and there is a open source one. (and millions of others like old canonicals click packages etc.).
[00:22] <stochastix> tgm4883: Yea, I didnt know there were more
[00:23] <k1l> but the fact that the "old" package system with the dependency hell and projects not wanting to make the effort to make a package for every distro are real. and there will be additional non main repo packages in the future.
[00:28] <tgm4883> stochastix: it's probably worth noting that not all packages can/will be snaps.
[00:28] <tgm4883> you'll still need debs for stuff
[00:35] <foul_owl> Thanks!
[00:42] <carlosdavid> hola
[00:42] <xfs> hi
[00:42] <xfs> hola
[00:42] <Surendil> !es | carlosdavid
[00:44] <xfs> can you help me?
[00:46] <Bashing-om> xfs: Now can we help 'til the issue is known ?
[00:46] <ubuntu520> hey ppl
[00:47] <xfs> i have a xfs filesystem hard drive
[00:47] <xfs> to record tv programs
[00:47] <xfs> something wrong has happened
[00:47] <ubuntu520> i just formated a drive ext4 and i am trying to write to it but under the permissions it says its owned by root i used gparted what did i do wrong?
[00:48] <xfs> my tv wants tells me if I'want to repair
[00:48] <xfs> but if I do that I will lost files
[00:49] <xfs> i'm trying to connect the HD on linux
[00:49] <Bashing-om> ubuntu520: You have done nothing wrong . now just change the owner to "you" . What is your mount point ? and I give ya the command syntax .
[00:50] <ubuntu520> Bashing-om: /dev/sdc?
[00:51] <ubuntu520> Bashing-om: /dev/sdc1
[00:52] <Bashing-om> ubuntu520: Nahh .. that ^ is the device . What is needed is how the device is attached to the file system . That is done by a mount point .. like for an instance /mnt/backup . Where we reference dfc through /mnt/backup .
[00:52] <xfs> gparted, xfs_repair, and file explorer freezes
[00:53] <ubuntu520> Bashing-om: lsblk? how can i find this
[00:54] <Bashing-om> ubuntu520: Sorry if I am confusing you . How are you presently accessing the hard drive that you get the permission denied ?
[00:55] <ubuntu520> Bashing-om: i can open it from the desktop but recieve a your not root warning when i try to write to it
[00:57] <Bashing-om> ubuntu520: OK, we can fix that . In the future will you always access the hard drive from the desktop ? OR ya want to mount it on terminal as on-demand ? ( we are gettiing back to establishing what mount point ) .
[00:57] <ubuntu520> Bashing-om: im actually using mint so i forced access and i am viewing the folder as root there is a huge selection of options and i can chamge to my user but which option is everyone my computer username is present on the list
[00:57] <cfhowlett> !mint | ubuntu520
[00:58] <ubuntu520> everyone knows ubuntu has the best help community tho
[00:58] <cfhowlett> ubuntu520, and yet you installed mint.  go to mint for support.
[00:59] <ubuntu520> i have 3 computers with ubuntu this 1 computer is mint
[01:00] <Reliant> How do I reboot from the command line in 16.04? None of the old commands work
[01:00] <cfhowlett> ubuntu520, ?   and your mint computer ... is ... not ... supported here in ubuntu.  mint has support.  go there.
[01:00] <glitchd> Reliant, sudo reboot or sudo reboot -h now
[01:00] <Reliant> doesn't work
[01:00] <glitchd> Reliant, error msg?
[01:00] <Reliant> tells me to install a package that's already installed
[01:01] <rexwin_> init 6
[01:01] <glitchd> Reliant, so you type sudo reboot and it says install a package thats already installed?
[01:02] <ubuntu520> looks like i got i working thanks Bashing-om
[01:02] <Reliant> reboot wants me to install "initscripts", which is already installed
[01:02] <Reliant> "init 6" wants me to install systemd-sysv, and that wants to uninstall other packages
[01:03] <Bashing-om> ubuntu520: That too is a good thing :)
[01:03] <glitchd> Reliant, umm..do it?
[01:03] <Reliant> I don't know what systemd-services is for
[01:04] <glitchd> managing system services and such
[01:04] <Reliant> that's what it wants to uninstall
[01:04] <rexwin_> exact error message
[01:05] <ubuntu520> Bashing-om: i had the same problem on arch its good to know the fix :)
[01:05] <Reliant> The following packages will be REMOVED:  systemd-services
[01:05] <glitchd> Reliant, what version are you on?
[01:05] <Reliant> 16.04
[01:06] <th0r> Reliant, first, check /sbin for a script called reboot, or one called shutdown
[01:06] <ubuntu520> Bashing-om: however if i select ,y computer name under premissions it should allow me to move delete and copy on another computer?
[01:06] <Reliant> no reboot, no shutdown
[01:07] <ubuntu520> Bashing-om that doesnt have my computer name
[01:08] <Bashing-om> ubuntu520: Can not advise anout mint . Never seen it . Not real familiar with any GUI . the terminal is my friend .
[01:08] <ubuntu520> Bashing-om: yes in linux terminal is king :)
[01:09] <Bashing-om> ubuntu520: Well . maybe not King .. but for sure universal .
[01:09] <th0r> Reliant, I am looking at a debian computer, so not sure if ubuntu is still the same. But I would force a reinstall of initscripts before I monkeyed around with systemd files and such
[01:10] <th0r> Reliant, if you get that too messed up you will have your hands full trying to get it all straight again
[01:10] <ubuntu520> Bashing-om: yes but terminal and --force are a excellent combination
[01:10] <Reliant> tried installing nginx, and now dpkg is jammed unable to install it, unable to resolve
[01:11] <elspru> how do I set my default web server?
[01:11] <Bashing-om> ubuntu520: --force exercised with extreme caution . there can be undesired side effects !
[01:12] <ubuntu520> Bashing-om: while i have you here
[01:13] <Bashing-om> ubuntu520: ubuntu related, yes ? All I have messed with for several years now .
[01:13] <ubuntu520> Bashing-on: im trying to create a veracrypt folder but i have to do it from the terminal since my computer that im using lacks the capabilities of loading a gui
[01:14] <ubuntu520> Bashing-om: ive looked over the commands but still seems confusing to me
[01:15] <Bashing-om> ubuntu520: Nope, again out of my experience range . I know nothing about encryption .
[01:15] <ubuntu520>  Bashing-om: thanks for the help i appriciate it
[01:16] <ubuntu520> Bashing-om: have a good week :)
[01:16] <Bashing-om> ubuntu520: Well not that I have done anything . But I do appreciate the sentiment .
[01:17] <ubuntu520> Bashing-om: well you listened and helped were you could
[01:17] <ubuntu520> Bashing-om: for this I thank you
[01:24] <JustTheDoctor> Hello, i am using ubuntu livecd, is it possible for me to install / test firefox flash?
[01:25] <quirke77> hi, anyone else freezing on alt+tab function?
[01:25] <quirke77> Ubuntu 16.04
[01:25] <cfhowlett> JustTheDoctor, yes
[01:26] <stochastix> tgm4883: yea that makes sense. Its not like systemd would ever be a snap pack for example.
[01:26] <JustTheDoctor> apt-get install What?
[01:26] <Bashing-om> JustTheDoctor: Yeas . one can install whatever . However the file system is read only , and any changes will not persist a re-boot .
[01:26] <JustTheDoctor> last time i tried it didnt work and i did apt-cache search adobe and flash with | grep "" statements
[01:26] <cfhowlett> JustTheDoctor, you already have firefox in ubuntu.
[01:26] <JustTheDoctor> i have firefoxi
[01:26] <JustTheDoctor> i dont have flash player
[01:27] <JustTheDoctor> i will nuke my hdd and install unbuntu right now, IF i can see adobe flash player working in my firefox
[01:27] <JustTheDoctor> and right now i am not seeing that, Please note, i use to apt-get install flash and it doesnt work anymore.
[01:28] <cfhowlett> JustTheDoctor, sudo apt install flashplugin-installer
[01:31] <JustTheDoctor> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/zcA4Xuy6/
[01:32] <OerHeks> enable partner repo first, softwarecenter > sources
[01:32] <Adyth> '-')
[01:32] <OerHeks> but installing in a live session, i don 't know
[01:32] <JustTheDoctor> im more a linux cmd line, rather then x.. can someone tell me how to do this via cmd only and it works in x?
[01:33] <Adyth> heya guys~
[01:33] <Adyth> '-')/
[01:33] <unetbootin> Hi, trying to install ubuntu through unetbootin.  using 8.1  do not have cd or usb.  unetbootin, loaded downloaded fine from gui end, restarted and attempt to boot unetbootin from bootloader.  it failed on mbl
[01:33] <OerHeks> no, if you are command man, you *know* and know how to find it :-D
[01:33] <unetbootin> what did i do wrong :(
[01:33] <unetbootin> 8.1 windows *
[01:34] <cfhowlett> unetbootin, no cd?  no USB?  then how do you plan to boot ubuntu?
[01:34] <unetbootin> thought unetbootin would do that
[01:35] <cfhowlett> unetbootin, no.  perhaps you mean the netinstall method?
[01:35] <unetbootin> No
[01:35] <unetbootin> unetbootin
[01:35] <cfhowlett> unetbootin creates bootable media, e.g. USB.  it is NOT a bootloader
[01:35] <unetbootin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/484434/install-ubuntu-without-cd-and-usb-how
[01:35] <OerHeks> the only way to boot an iso without usb/dvd, is when you have grub installed already.
[01:36] <unetbootin> i followed this directions :/
[01:36] <cfhowlett> wubi.  tsk.    wubi is dead dead dead.   unsupported for years and *WILL* break your ubuntu install.  good people do not wubi.
[01:37] <unetbootin> i used unetbootin ......
[01:37] <OerHeks> strange post, wubi is dead and never seen unetbooting in windows menu
[01:37] <cfhowlett> same here, OerHeks
[01:38] <unetbootin> https://unetbootin.github.io/
[01:38] <unetbootin> again, unetbootin for windows
[01:39] <OerHeks> we advise to use rufus to make an usb.
[01:39] <unetbootin> i dont have usb or cd :/
[01:39] <OerHeks> unetbootin, then no install, sorry
[01:39] <OerHeks> buy one
[01:39] <unetbootin> unetbootin, is false ad :/
[01:39] <xangua> unetbootin: so how were you planning to do a bootable ISO?
[01:40] <OerHeks> unetbootin, sue them
[01:40] <unetbootin> from tht post and what the program said it does e.g install to hardrive.
[01:40] <unetbootin> thts how.
[01:40] <cfhowlett> unetbootin, no.  unetbootin creates a bootable usb.  it has never functioned as a bootloader.
[01:41] <cfhowlett> from the site you posted "UNetbootin allows you to create bootable Live USB drives for Ubuntu and other Linux distributions without burning a CD."
[01:41] <OerHeks> that example used D: with usb device, lolz
[01:41] <OerHeks> not the first port, that one i don't believe it is true
[01:41] <OerHeks> c/port/post
[01:41] <cfhowlett> I think the pic shows a USB labeled unetbootin
[01:55] <dirty_pages_joe> bazhang, heya!
[01:55] <dirty_pages_joe> Bashing-om, heya!
[02:18] <clyde> hello
[02:18] <wabbits> hello clyde do you have a question?
[02:19] <tlosold> hi guys, I have a question about mounting an external usb drive in my 16.04 ubuntu server here
[02:19] <tlosold> it used to work before on 14.04, but now after the update I cant do it anymore
[02:20] <tlosold> thing is, mounting it from terminal WORKS, but not from fstab
[02:20] <tlosold> anyone could help me with this issue?
[02:21] <wabbits> what does you fstab entry look like?
[02:21] <tlosold> UUID="70D887D1D88793CE" /mnt/hd-usb ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
[02:21] <tlosold> if I save this and use mount -a, it works
[02:21] <tlosold> BUT if i reboot the machine, it gets stuck on boot o.0
[02:21] <tlosold> (systemd task for uid bla bla bla and them boots into emergency mode)
[02:22] <tlosold> I can recover from the error (since I have a serial terminal on the server), but cant automount it with this fstab entry anymore after the update
[02:24] <wabbits> since it worked in 14.04 and now it doesn't it looks like a bug to me.
[02:24] <wabbits> do the logs tell you anything?
[02:25] <tlosold> everything started after the update. The do-release-upgrade messed with my fstab and I went straight to the emergency mode
[02:25] <tlosold> after I added the entry for the rootfs, the system now boots correctly
[02:25] <tlosold> I then tried to add this entry for my usb drive and it does not work anymore :/
[02:26] <tlosold> which log exaclty should I check?
[02:26] <wabbits> hold on I will look
[02:26] <tlosold> thanks!
[02:28] <justsumd00d> hi
[02:28] <wabbits> tlosold what do you see in /var/log/boot.log ?
[02:29] <docmur> On the commands line, how could I determine the size of an FTP folder, before syncing?
[02:29] <tlosold> wabbits: will check
[02:29] <wabbits> docmur `du -sh`
[02:29] <Bashing-om> tlosold: A basic thing but, did you verify that the UUID is correct per : ' sudo blkid -c /dev/null -o list ' ( gets a fresh list ) ?
[02:30] <tlosold> ummm, let me try that just in case (since in the terminal im mounting via /dev)
[02:30] <tlosold> yep, 70D887D1D88793CE
[02:30] <tlosold> its correct
[02:30] <docmur> Before the FTP download?
[02:30] <tlosold> I can do this too  mount --source UUID=70D887D1D88793CE --target /mnt/hd-usb
[02:31] <tlosold> and it DOES work
[02:31] <justsumd00d> jeezm, some day i hope i can follow what the heck is being said here
[02:31] <tlosold> wabbits: my boot.log is "normal" (since I have to comment the entry in the fstab file for it to boot haha)
[02:33] <wabbits> bthoom
[02:36] <tlosold> i tried to edit my fstab again with /dev/sda1 and now boot is stuck with a message
[02:36] <tlosold> (3 of 3) A start job is running for 5AS 1 (56s / 1min 30s)
[02:37] <tlosold> i can tell its about my hd since running dmesg shows the hd model (and it ends with 5AS)
[02:38] <tlosold> well, using /dev/sda1 instead of an UUID made the system boot (without the external hd connected)
[02:38] <tlosold> if I try to cd into /mnt/hd-usb i get
[02:38] <tlosold> -bash: cd: hd-usb: Transport endpoint is not connected
[02:38] <tlosold> which is expected I guess
[02:40] <tlosold> guess I will add the mount command in a init script and call it a day
[02:40] <ribbit_dude> hello is this an active channel?
[02:40] <ribbit_dude> can i paste my incert from xubuntu?
[02:40] <ribbit_dude> i need quick and snappy question
[02:40] <ribbit_dude> [16:35] <ribbit_dude> sup [16:36] <ribbit_dude> neway, i have a question. I heard CYPRUSS cards are no longer supported which sucks [16:36] <ribbit_dude> is there an alternative that works? i cant find radeon anywhere in the repository [16:36] <ribbit_dude> and amdgpu is not supporting CYPRUSS cards [16:36] <ribbit_dude> CYPRUSS = 5xxx cards [16:37] <ribbit_dude> hello is this place dead? im freaking out
[02:41] <dax> the only supported driver for HD 5xxx cards is radeon. radeon is installed by default
[02:41] <ribbit_dude> dax: How come i dont have a 1600x1200 resolution by default, i only have 1024x7xx max
[03:07] <qingyun_> what?
[03:08] <kimizahi> Hiii
[03:08] <kimizahi> I'm new in Ubuntu
[03:08] <qingyun_> anyone?
[03:09] <kimizahi> Someone knows where I can find this in Ubuntu 16.04?
[03:09] <kimizahi> http://moritzmolch.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Screenshot-from-2014-03-31-000401.png
[03:09] <kimizahi> I don't find this. ;c
[03:10] <qingyun_> I can find
[03:11] <trism> kimizahi: mozc? sudo apt-get install ibus-mozc; then you need to restart ibus with: ibus restart;
[03:11] <trism> kimizahi: oh and you have to add it in text entry settings
[03:12] <kimizahi> I mean that panel of text entry
[03:12] <kimizahi> I have installed Mozc already
[03:12] <kimizahi> but I don't find that panel to change language
[03:13] <qingyun_> Ghost
[03:13] <trism> kimizahi: system settings/text entry, is show current input source in menubar checked?
[03:17] <kimizahi> menubar checked?
[03:18] <trism> kimizahi: at the bottom of the Text Entry panel in System Settings, there is a checkbox that enables the text entry indicator in the top panel
[03:18] <cash> Hello everyone
[03:18] <trism> kimizahi: which is what is in the screenshot
[03:19] <kimizahi> Yeah, I see it
[03:20] <cash> If I install gnome desktop on top of Ubuntu 16.04, will it mess anything up?
[03:22] <kimizahi> I can't find the current input source in menubar
[03:23] <kimizahi> but I found how to activate Mozc, with virtual keyboard
[03:24] <kimizahi> Sorry if you don't understand me well, xD I'm not english speaker.
[03:24] <kimizahi> Anyway, thanks for help.
[03:58] <arinov> hi folks
[03:58] <arinov> how to undo huge installation (many packages with deps)?
[03:59] <Bashing-om> arinov: Depends, if ya installed with the package manager, you in-install with the package manager .
[04:00] <arinov> Bashing-om, is there any undo command?
[04:00] <Bashing-om> in-unstall/un-install*
[04:01] <arinov> ok, thanks
[04:01] <Bashing-om> arinov: No there is no undo . but what ever was installed can be removed .
[04:01] <alnr> all of a sudden my server is running with no swap. my setup is dd..../swapfile; mkswap /swapfile; swapon, but top still says i have no swap. any idea what my issue c/b?
[04:02] <jose__> oi
[04:03] <meet_praveen> how can i get source code of installed application in local system
[04:05] <Bashing-om> meet_praveen: ' apt source install <package> '
[04:07] <meet_praveen> Bashing-om: it's saying invalid operation source
[04:09] <Bashing-om> meet_praveen: qSorry, should be as ' apt-get source <package> ' .
[04:10] <meet_praveen> Bashing-om: apt-get redirects system to remote repository to fetch source but i want source from my system after installation of package
[04:12] <Bashing-om> meet_praveen: On your system you get the binary when you install an app with the package manager .
[04:13] <meet_praveen> Bashing-om: can i get source code from that binary?
[04:21] <Bashing-om> meet_praveen: Not that I am aware of .
[04:25] <meet_praveen> Bashing-om: So, there is no option to get source code of installed application from the local system :(
[04:28] <Bashing-om> meet_praveen: Well .. yeah .. IF you compiled the application yourself, then you have the source . One can always obtain the source code and do that .
[04:28] <orlock> meet_praveen: use apt
[04:29] <orlock> meet_praveen: apt-get source <packagename> should do it
[04:29] <meet_praveen> orlock: apt-get redirects system to remote repository to fetch source but i want source from my system after installation of package
[04:30] <orlock> meet_praveen: You are installing binary applications when you install them
[04:30] <orlock> meet_praveen: If you want the source, install the source. Installing the source for everything is a major waste of resources
[04:31] <orlock> meet_praveen: Is this because you think it should work that way?
[04:31] <orlock> meet_praveen: Or is this because you have some requirement to have verified the source of the software you are using?
[04:35] <meet_praveen> orlock: this is like you gave me source code of one package/application, i installed the package then i loosed the source code but i need that source code. application is installed in my system so, there is a way to get the source code
[04:36] <makerman> anyone use system76 laptops?
[04:36] <orlock> meet_praveen: If you need it, you go and get it?
[04:37] <orlock> meet_praveen: Or, run a full local mirror of everything?
[04:37] <orlock> meet_praveen: Do you find yourself compiling software from source much? i pretty much stopped doing it about 20 years ago
[04:39] <meet_praveen> orlock: i don't have mirror
[04:40] <orlock> meet_praveen: Well, if you want to keep a copy of all of the source packages used to build your software, you need to?
[04:42] <orlock> meet_praveen: If you want the source, you will have to install it. installing the binaries does not install the source, and you cannot reverse-compile the packages to get the source
[04:43] <meet_praveen> orlock: i loosed the source after installation or you can say i deleted by mistake
[04:43] <meet_praveen> orlock: from binary there is no option to get back source?
[04:43] <orlock> meet_praveen: No
[04:44] <orlock> meet_praveen: Use your backups.
[04:47] <meet_praveen> orlock: system dosen't maintain anything else for this?
[04:47] <adityaduggal> hi...can any one help me with http://askubuntu.com/questions/253632/how-do-i-get-a-ralink-rt3290-wireless-card-working, I have downloaded and extracted the mediafire file but when I run setup.sh I am getting an error at the end which says cannot compile the driver
[04:47] <sonu_nk> I have a ubuntu server and facing FTP issue ...
[04:48] <orlock> meet_praveen: no, we have The Internet for that
[04:48] <sonu_nk> I am connecting with my ftp user on one pc it is working fine means connecting but on second pc it is shwoing Network error: Connection timed out
[04:48] <orlock> meet_praveen: but if this is a concern, you have bigger concerns - like no working backups
[04:51] <meet_praveen> orlock: yeah :( that's why i am searching for some solution
[04:52] <orlock> meet_praveen: so this is not a package that came from ubuntu?
[04:52] <meet_praveen> orlock: yes not from ubuntu. it's mine
[04:53] <orlock> Not much we can do to help you then
[04:55] <the-c0d3r> hi
[04:55] <orlock> meet_praveen: Did you even install it via apt?
[04:55] <the-c0d3r> what package you guys talking about?
[04:55] <orlock> meet_praveen: If so, it might be in the apt cache repository
[04:56] <meet_praveen> the-c0d3r: how to get source from installed binary
[04:57] <the-c0d3r> if you installed from binary, you can't.
[04:57] <the-c0d3r> is it even opensource?
[04:58] <the-c0d3r> search it on launchpad. Most ubuntu packages can be found there
[04:58] <orlock> Unless its written in python, of course
[04:58] <orlock> or perl
[04:58] <orlock> etc etc
[05:00] <the-c0d3r> or reverse engineer it from assembly code :D
[05:01] <shawn196|R40> Howdy
[05:02] <meet_praveen> the-c0d3r: from assembly code ?
[05:02] <shawn196|R40> can someone help me figure this out please?
[05:02] <shawn196|R40> http://hastebin.com/tayavehadi.go
[05:02] <shawn196|R40> trying to figure out how to get irda running on this thinkpad
[05:06] <shawn196|R40> it recognizes nsc-ircc, can't get iobase then disables itself
[05:06] <shawn196|R40> what does this mean?
[05:11] <Bashing-om> shawn196|R40: Are you installing from the repo ? sysop@1404mini:~$ apt list irda-utils >> irda-utils/trusty 0.9.18-12ubuntu1 amd64 .
[05:14] <Genbu> hello. i've this bug https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/can-someone-help-me-figure-out-why-my-wired-xbox-360-controller-isnt-working/5699 I found that i disconnect and reconnect my gamepad, it works. is there a way to make this by console?
[05:15] <both> hi. How to install nvidia drivers? Short problem description here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23180921/
[05:17] <shawn196|R40> Bashing-om,  I can't use 64-bit
[05:17] <shawn196|R40> I installed from apt-get
[05:17] <congiun> can someone helpme a little
[05:18] <Bashing-om> both: Try ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' .
[05:18] <congiun> i have an issues
[05:18] <shawn196|R40> irda-utils/xenial,now 0.9.18-14ubuntu1 i386 [installed]
[05:19] <hateball> both: use nomodeset to install. then edit grub on boot on your install and add nomodeset again
[05:19] <Bashing-om> !info irda-utils trusty
[05:19] <hateball> both: after that you should be able to boot, and install the proprietary drivers
[05:20] <hateball> both: and if you want newer drivers than 14.04 offers, you can use the nvidia ppa to install those
[05:20] <hateball> both: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-370
[05:20] <shawn196|R40> Bashing-om, is the one that I have not complete?
[05:21] <Bashing-om> shawn196|R40: scratching my head presently . See what I can find out .
[05:22] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: If you're around to help me some more I'm free if not it's no big deal
[05:23] <both> hateball: I don't have access to grub edit mode on my install - I have access to it only on temporary ubuntu trial version. How to fix it?
[05:23] <Bashing-om> shawn196|R40: It is available in 32 bit : http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/utils/irda-utils .
[05:23] <shawn196|R40> the one I have is 32-bit
[05:23] <shawn196|R40> i386
[05:23] <hateball> both: hold/hammer left shift on boot, this will show the grub menu
[05:23] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: I am here ., but was of a mind to sign off .. what's new ?
[05:23] <shawn196|R40> I have an i686 cpu
[05:24] <shawn196|R40> which is 32-bit
[05:24] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: I will just ask you one question then
[05:24] <hateball> both: then press 'e' to edit and add nomodeset and then... I dont remember what to press to boot, but it shows on screen
[05:24] <adityaduggal> hi...can any one help me with http://askubuntu.com/questions/253632/how-do-i-get-a-ralink-rt3290-wireless-card-working, I have downloaded and extracted the mediafire file but when I run setup.sh I am getting an error at the end which says cannot compile the driver
[05:24] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Could the reason it's not booting be a result of a missing BOOTx64.EFI file
[05:25] <both> hateball: it works only for my temporary trial version, it doesn't work on my installed version.
[05:26] <hateball> both: what doesnt work? getting the grub menu to show at all?
[05:27] <hateball> both: in that case you could employ a dirty hack and use the install media to liveboot, and then edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[05:27] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: If this is a EFI install ..then yes that file is needed to boot .
[05:27] <hateball> both: also, if you are doing a new install, why are you using 14.04 rather than 16.04?
[05:28] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: if it's missing can I install it manually
[05:28] <Bray90820> Because I do have a copy of the file
[05:29] <shawn196|R40> it worked :D
[05:29] <both> hateball: grub menu ('shift' on boot) works only for USB version of my ubuntu. Grub menu doesn't appear for my hard drive ubuntu version. I don't want new install, I just want to access my hard drive ubuntu.
[05:29] <shawn196|R40> installed a color theme in unix/linux hexchat\
[05:29] <Bashing-om> shawn196|R40: Did the package install ? what thinks the package manager ' dpkg -l irda-utils ' .
[05:30] <both> hateball: I'll try to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[05:30] <hateball> both: yes. so liveboot, then access the drive where you have installed ubuntu. edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and add nomodeset to the bootline
[05:31] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Yes one can .. but out of my experience range , I have limited EFI knowledge .
[05:31] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Alright
[05:31] <Bray90820> Would eric know more?
[05:31] <shawn196|R40> Bashing-om, have already installed that yesterday
[05:31] <shawn196|R40> I posted the one i have installed
[05:32] <shawn196|R40> irda-utils/xenial,now 0.9.18-14ubuntu1 i386 [installed]
[05:33] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Yeah Eric is the go-to guy, though there are many here with the experience .
[05:34] <Bray90820> I'll just wait for eric since he knows more about my situation
[05:35] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: K. he is 8 hours ahead of me .. may be comiong in now at any time .
[05:36] <Lucretius> hey, if i make a partition under windows, and boot up from usb the ubuntu installation does it work?
[05:36] <Lucretius> i mean will it see the partition?
[05:36] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: so what time is it currently for him?
[05:36] <Lucretius> i have an older notebook and i dont want to throw it away
[05:36] <shawn196|R40> why might this be happening Bashing-om? [   26.603943] nsc_ircc_open(), can't get iobase of 0x2f8
[05:37] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: 08.37 hours .
[05:38] <Bray90820> 8:37AM?
[05:39] <both> hateball: There are only 2 files in my '/boot/grub/' directory: 'gfxblacklist.txt', 'grubenv'.
[05:41] <Triffid_Hunter> Lucretius: yes
[05:42] <hateball> both: hmm, how about directly in /boot ? I know there was a change, perhaps it happened post 14.04
[05:43] <Lucretius> ok which format do i need fat32 or ntfs?
[05:43] <hateball> both: actually I logged on to a 14.04 system, and that has /boot/grub/grub.cfg as well
[05:44] <hateball> both: so, sounds like your install is not correct
[05:44] <Triffid_Hunter> Lucretius: ntfs is rather less stupid, linux can read or write either (using ntfs-3g+fuse for ntfs, not the kernel driver)
[05:45] <Lucretius> ok thanks
[05:45] <both> hateball: directly in '/boot/' there's no 'grub.cfg' file. There are only 5 files like '[something]-generic', '[someting].bin'
[05:46] <Bashing-om> shawn196|R40: That us deeper than I know , If we jump up to the package management level, what results 'sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt install --reinstall irda-utils ' for errors ?
[05:46] <hateball> both: and you're looking on your HDD/SSD and not the thumbdrive?
[05:46] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Yes in the AM .
[05:46] <Bray90820> Alright
[05:46] <caloroso> hello ubuntu. i have an issue someone could perhaps help me out simply by taking a look at this image and please find waldo. i mean, please can you tell me where the ubuntu installation is hiding, i'm trying to remove it. thank you very much for your time
[05:46] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: So you are central time zone
[05:47] <shawn196|R40> only a few things in the system that need updating
[05:47] <shawn196|R40> 6 things xD
[05:48] <both> hateball: yes - I'm looging on my HDD found in '/media/[numbers]/boot/' and I'm on my trial ubuntu terminal.
[05:49] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: I be an Arkansas Ridge Runner :)
[05:49] <Bray90820> What time zone is that haha
[05:50] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Central .
[05:50] <Bray90820> So I was right
[05:50] <Bray90820> Chicago myself
[05:50] <Bray90820> So now I know why he is never around in the middle of my day
[05:51] <Bashing-om> shawn196|R40: Update the system .. so it has the correct files to work with .
[05:51] <shawn196|R40> indeed
[05:51] <shawn196|R40> updated
[05:51] <shawn196|R40> reinstalling irda-utils
[05:52] <shawn196|R40> I reckon a restart will be necessary
[05:52] <shawn196|R40> lot of missing LSB tags
[05:53] <shawn196|R40> I will restart
[05:53] <Bashing-om> shawn196|R40: I would think so as I do not know that this is a service , or how systemd will handle it .
[05:53] <shawn196|R40> ah
[05:53] <shawn196|R40> brb
[05:54] <hateball> both: well I dont know then. it sounds broken. and if this is a fresh install (as it likely is since you cant even boot once) then I suggest you reinstall with 16.04 instead
[05:55] <Shawn186> no errors yet
[05:56] <both> hateball: It's not fresh install. It's an old install with daily updates.
[05:56] <hateball> both: and it somehow broke?
[05:56] <both> hateball: I just have new graphic card, because old one is damaged.
[05:57] <shawn196|R40> incredible
[05:57] <hateball> both: right
[05:57] <shawn196|R40> dmesg returns a lot friendlier results
[05:57] <shawn196|R40> oh the things that happen with one is running outdated files o.O
[05:58] <hateball> both: I still dont understand why you cant get into grub menu or even find the configs if all that's changed is a physical card
[05:58] <Bashing-om> both: and did you remove the old graphic's driver ?
[05:59] <shawn196|R40> palm pilot still not hotsyncing
[05:59] <both> hateball: I had no problems with my system before. Just new graphic card. No old graphics drivers removed.
[06:00] <both> Bashing-om: nothing else removed - just graphic card.
[06:00] <hateball> both: was the old card nvidia as well?
[06:00] <hateball> and regardless, you should have a grub config
[06:01] <Bashing-om> both: I am with hateball . a graohics card/driver should not effect booting to the grub nenu .
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> nomodeset perhaps?
[06:02] <hateball> lotuspsychje: that's what we're trying to achieve here
[06:02] <hateball> but apparently there is no grub.cfg on this machine even
[06:02] <hateball> !fixgrub| This is what I'd pursue first
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> good idea
[06:03] <shawn196|R40> Bashing-om, better returns http://hastebin.com/ejigayuxet.go
[06:04] <shawn196|R40> J pilot is not syncing though :(
[06:04] <shawn196|R40> and prefs are setup
[06:07] <shawn196|R40> is 115200kbps too fast for infrared?
[06:11] <both> hateball: There was AMD Radeon card before. Now is Nvidia GTX 750ti running there.
[06:12] <Bashing-om> shawn196|R40: You got me there ,. I do not know .
[06:12] <both> Bashing-om: I also have no doubts that graphics has no effects on booting to the grub.
[06:12] <both> Bashing-om: but I can't access grub on hard drive the same way as on trial ubuntu version.
[06:14] <Bashing-om> both: Legacy or EFI system ? How one gets grub differs .
[06:14] <ducasse> shawn196|R40: when i used a palm pilot i regularly used 115200kbps without problems
[06:15] <shawn196|R40> ducasse, on infrared or regular serial?
[06:15] <shawn196|R40> I caught myself not using the infrared port
[06:15] <ducasse> shawn196|R40: both
[06:15] <shawn196|R40> I had my pilot aligned on the right screw mount cover xD
[06:16] <shawn196|R40> how do I ping infrared?
[06:17] <shawn196|R40> I'm trying to verify if the infrared works with a camera
[06:17] <shawn196|R40> infrared definately works on my handspring visor
[06:18] <ducasse> shawn196|R40: i think all you can do is initiate a transfer and see if it starts, there is no 'ping' afaik.
[06:18] <shawn196|R40> I thought I read there is
[06:19] <ducasse> i might be wrong, just can't think of anything.
[06:19] <shawn196|R40> I already have setserial
[06:19] <shawn196|R40> ah
[06:19] <shawn196|R40> ahh the end of this page shows https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto
[06:20] <both> Bashing-om: I'm not sure what you are asking me about.
[06:21] <shawn196|R40> I'm not getting anything when trying to discovery
[06:21] <shawn196|R40> or when trying to get discovery to find something
[06:22] <ducasse> shawn196|R40: maybe the sensor is broken
[06:22] <shawn196|R40> its working
[06:23] <shawn196|R40> I did sudo irattach irda -s
[06:24] <shawn196|R40> no ping though
[06:26] <Bashing-om> both: To get the grub menu with efi it is the escape key that grub looks for , if it is MBR (legacy) hold a shift key .
[06:27] <ducasse> both: and if holding the key does not work, try spamming it.
[06:29] <shawn196|R40> now irda0 is not a real port o.O
[06:30] <both> Bashing-om, ducasse: Holding, spamming 'shift' key doesn't work for my hard drive Ubuntu. It works only for my trial ubuntu USB version.
[06:31] <Bray90820> EriC^^: You around?
[06:32] <ducasse> both: can you boot from the usb and reinstall grub on the hard drive?
[06:34] <caloroso> hello i need some help uninstalling ubuntu, perhaps not the most popular request in #ubuntu, but hey. windows 10/ubuntu dual install, ubuntu starts first and this is the dskmng layout https://imgur.com/a/M8p53
[06:34] <hateball> caloroso: try ##windows
[06:35] <both> ducasse: I can boot only to my ubuntu trial USB version. I've never done anything like grub reinstall, so I don't know if it's possible for my hard drive, but I'll try.
[06:35] <ducasse> !fixgrub | both try the first link here
[06:38] <ubuntu695> hi
[06:38] <ubuntu695> 8976898787887
[06:38] <k1l_> caloroso: remove the ubuntu partition and rerun the windows cd to let it install its bootloader again
[06:39] <ubuntu695> 10001101010000111111111111111101010100000000000010110111111111111100000000000101010000000000000000000111111111111111111111101111111111111111111111111101001010101010001001010100101010010010100101010101011101010010010101010101111101001010100100101
[06:40] <caloroso> there is no ubuntu partition
[06:40] <caloroso> it's on the same as windows.
[06:40] <onespaceisthepas> hi
[06:40] <k1l_> caloroso: wait, you did a wubi install?
[06:40] <caloroso> no
[06:40] <caloroso> idk what the hell i did.
[06:40] <onespaceisthepas> hello guys
[06:40] <caloroso> unetbootin
[06:41] <caloroso> created a partition for ubuntu, but then it got installed somewhere else
[06:41] <caloroso> i must have been too clicker happy
[06:41] <k1l_> caloroso: windows doesnt list the ubuntu partitions since it doesnt care about other OSs
[06:42] <caloroso> how inconsiderate of it. ok
[06:42] <caloroso> :)
[06:42] <k1l_> caloroso: can you boot ubuntu and provide a "sudo parted -l" and "mount" on paste.ubuntu.com and show it here?
[06:42] <akik> the partitions will be shown in disk management but not labeled anything like in linux
[06:42] <onespaceisthepas> hello there
[06:42] <shawn196|R40> brb
[06:42] <onespaceisthepas> got anything new?
[06:43] <caloroso> i'd rather fix this from windows
[06:43] <k1l_> caloroso: ok, then you need to ask in ##windows
[06:45] <Shawn186> I disabled the serial port in my thinkpad bios since there is no rs-232 com port on this
[06:45] <Shawn186> only infrared and its address are enabled and configured
[06:47] <circ-user-Nt3Pf> Hey folks.  I'm on a windows machine trying to install the latest ubuntu version (32 bit) in virtualbox and its not working in the slightest.  The install window starts...and then the color gets all jacked up.  Like in this picture http://s98.photobucket.com/user/con_movies/media/Capture_zpstx4g7zg9.png.html
[06:47] <onespaceisthepas> lol
[06:48] <onespaceisthepas> what;s that shit man
[06:48] <onespaceisthepas> looks freaky lol
[06:48] <ubuntu871> Hi ! I switched from Windows to Ubuntu a few days ago. I am used to segregating my files in drives meant for specific purpose like movies or work. Do you guys use partitions with your installs, or just make folders
[06:48] <Lion4407> lol
[06:48] <SwedeMike> ubuntu871: folders.
[06:48] <ubuntu871> Cool
[06:49] <orlock> ubuntu871: anything like that goes on a server, with different levels of drive redundancy and backup schedules depending on the importance of the data
[06:49] <k1l_> circ-user-Nt3Pf: maybe give the vm more video ram?
[06:50] <Triffid_Hunter> ubuntu871: for that stuff, folders.. for things that need more stringent separation, btrfs subvolumes
[06:50] <orlock> but not raid5 btrfs..
[06:50] <docgi> any of you have any problems with brightness hotkey in ubuntu 16.04? Not working for me on my ASUS Q551LN. hotkey is Fn + F3/F4
[06:52] <shawn196|R40> "sudo echo ircomm_tty >> /etc/modules"  ends in "bash: /etc/modules: Permission denied
[06:52] <shawn196|R40> " :(
[06:52] <Triffid_Hunter> docgi: my laptop implements that via firmware/bios, perhaps yours are simply soft buttons? should be able to assign a global hotkey somewhere for them
[06:52] <Guest16948> ubuntu871: I always use a separate /home partition. Reason: it is so easy to backup a separate partition and you can reinstall OS leaving the contents of /home partition intact.
[06:52] <Triffid_Hunter> shawn196|R40: yeah of course, redirect is done by the shell, not the command you invoked. try sudo "echo ircomm_tty >> /etc/modules" (note quotes)
[06:53] <shawn196|R40> will try
[06:53] <shawn196|R40> sudo: echo ircomm_tty >> /etc/modules: command not found
[06:53] <k1l_> shawn196|R40: or use sudo tee after the pipe
[06:53] <docgi> Triffid_Hunter: I can't assign the key Fn as modifier
[06:53] <shawn196|R40> k1l_, what is that?
[06:54] <Triffid_Hunter> shawn196|R40: ah ffs, sudo -i; echo ... or sudo 'sh -c "echo ... >> file";'
[06:54] <Ben64> docgi: of course you can't. it's not a real key
[06:55] <k1l_> shawn196|R40: echo foo | sudo tee --append /path/to/file
[06:55] <shawn196|R40> Triffid_Hunter, without the quotes it works
[06:57] <shawn196|R40> not sure I have the right address to the irda0 device in jpilot |pi_bind error: /dev/irda0 No such file or directory"
[06:57] <awatt> hello my laptop cant recognise meida like usb sticks or dvds
[06:58] <awatt> when i insert usb i hear a sound but nothing recognised
[07:01] <awatt> ?
[07:02] <shawn196|R40> Triffid_Hunter, have you used jpilot?
[07:03] <Triffid_Hunter> shawn196|R40: nope
[07:03] <Lion4407> anyone know what part of october the ubuntu update will come?
[07:03] <shawn196|R40> oh, I can't get it to talk to my device
[07:03] <shawn196|R40> in discovery commands I can see the device
[07:04] <Ben64> Lion4407: october 15
[07:04] <Lion4407> nicr
[07:04] <Lion4407> nice
[07:04] <Lion4407> 1 month away
[07:04] <shawn196|R40> my thinkpad is just bringing up beam Waiting for sender on my visor
[07:04] <shawn196|R40> every time its aligned
[07:07] <shawn196|R40> brb, tring to finaggle irda-utils configs
[07:07] <shawn196|R40> *trying
[07:07] <Shawn186> has anyone here used jpilot?
[07:07] <Shawn186> not much documentation  on configuring it
[07:08] <Shawn186> when trying to use different devices jpilot returns access denied
[07:15] <prolifik> Hey will virtual box on Ubuntu 16.04 allow me to run windows games? Steam, etc/
[07:16] <prolifik> ?* I have a gaming computer so I know hardware can handle it, I just wanted to know if the feel will be the same
[07:16] <Adyth> hi all~
[07:16] <Adyth> '-')/
[07:16] <ducasse> Shawn186: maybe you need to be in the 'dialout' or another group, check permissions on the device node.
[07:17] <Shawn186> dialout?
[07:17] <ducasse> Shawn186: that's usually for serial devices.
[07:17] <Shawn186> oh
[07:17] <ducasse> Shawn186: just check the device you're trying  to open.
[07:17] <shawn196|R40> what command would I use?
[07:18] <Seveas> hurricane:~$ ls -la /dev/ttyS*
[07:18] <Seveas> crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 64 sep 14 20:51 /dev/ttyS0
[07:18] <ducasse> exactly :)
[07:18] <Seveas> (assuming you're actually trying to use serial ports)
[07:18] <shawn196|R40> woa, a whole page full
[07:18] <shawn196|R40> well it is
[07:19] <shawn196|R40> for infrared
[07:19] <hateball> prolifik: Short answer no. Use !wine for non-native games, or PCI passthrough using !kvm
[07:19] <shawn196|R40> theres a lot of dialouts
[07:19] <prolifik> !kvm
[07:20] <prolifik> alright, thanks hateball
[07:20] <hateball> prolifik: it requires specific hardware, and support for that stuff is outside the scope of #ubuntu
[07:20] <shawn196|R40> in this walkthrough https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto, on line "sudo nano /etc/default/irda-utils"
[07:21] <shawn196|R40> in that config I returned what I changed to irda0 back to ttyS1
[07:21] <shawn196|R40> should I change that back to irda0?
[07:24] <ducasse> shawn196|R40: set it to whatever device you want to try
[07:24] <shawn196|R40> well, I dont know what to try
[07:25] <shawn196|R40> it was ttyS1 before I changed it, and I saw no difference
[07:25] <Luna_Moonfang> is it possible to temporarily disable notifications like you can do with dunst? (ie, "killall -USR1 dunst")
[07:25] <ducasse> shawn196|R40: have you tried ttyS0?
[07:25] <shawn196|R40> no
[07:26] <shawn196|R40> though theres no serial port on this laptop, I disabled the serial in bios
[07:26] <shawn196|R40> when I configure jpilot to used irda0, it gives me "pi_bind error: irda0 No such file or directory"
[07:27] <ducasse> shawn196|R40: sounds like a module might not be loaded correctly
[07:28] <shawn196|R40> -_-
[07:31] <shawn196|R40> hmm
[07:32] <paphie> good evening
[07:32] <shawn196|R40> hi
[07:33] <shawn196|R40> well, I guess I will do what the page says
[07:33] <shawn196|R40> I will configure irda-utils to irda0 instead of ttyS1
[07:34] <paphie> I have just install conky
[07:34] <paphie> but the upload and download speed doesn't work
[07:34] <paphie> my wireless lan detected as wpls0 not wlan0
[07:35] <shawn196|R40> oh, the alias is irda0
[07:35] <shawn196|R40> so I have to have it set to that
[07:35] <shawn196|R40> brb again
[07:38] <adamicron> hello, when I select "open with vim" in file browser I get a terminal with vim running, I'd like to have gvim instead (that I have installed)
[07:39] <adamicron> I got suggested to use unity-tweak-tool, I installed it and I'm browsing around but I don't see how I can change that
[07:42] <Shawn186> lspci doesn't show my infrared port
[07:43] <adamicron> actually my issue is that choosing Open With > Other Application... > View All Applications doesn't show Gvim in the list
[07:43] <Triffid_Hunter> Shawn186: likely it's not a pci device then.. IR is usually hooked to a serial port which is a sub-block inside the chipset
[07:44] <shawn196|R40> with this line in the how to "OPTIONS="--ignore-install ircc_dma=3 ircc_irq=3 ircc_fir=0x130 ircc_sir=0x3f8" I used ox2f8 since that is what is configured in my laptop's bios
[07:45] <Shawn186> ah
[07:46] <Shawn186> should I have serial enabled in my bios then?
[07:46] <Shawn186> since this laptop has no physical serial port
[07:46] <Luna_Moonfang> adamicron: maybe you can change the default text editor with "sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-text-editor" ?
[07:47] <adamicron> Shawn186: you should check the mobo manual and see how the irda device works
[07:47] <adamicron> Luna_Moonfang: did that already, it's /usr/bin/vim.gnome now
[07:47] <adamicron> my issue is that nautilus/gnome aren't aware of gvim as an app
[07:48] <shawn196|R40> meh, not sure how that would help
[07:52] <adamicron> what I don't get is at what level the issue is, is it at Nautilus' or a more general GNOME one and Nautilus is accessing a DE db for the applications/mimetypes?
[07:53] <adamicron> that narrows where to look for help, I got the obvious answers from askubuntu.com editing ~/.local/share/applications but that didn't help
[07:53] <adamicron> also the issues were different than mine
[07:55] <Shawn186> adamicron, the manual says irda 1.1
[07:55] <adamicron> I mean does it says how the device is connected to the computer, i.e. what bus?
[07:58] <ducasse> Shawn186: is this a built-in irda thingy?
[07:58] <Shawn186> yes
[07:58] <Shawn186> in an ibm thinkpad
[07:58] <Shawn186> r40
[07:59] <ducasse> Shawn186: then you most likely need serial enabled
[07:59] <shawn196|R40> when I do sudo irattach irda0 -s
[07:59] <shawn196|R40> that works
[08:00] <shawn196|R40> and when I do discovery
[08:00] <shawn196|R40> I get nickname: Visor, hint: 0x8220, saddr: 0x2ba6ec1a, daddr: 0xec48685b
[08:00] <shawn196|R40> it sees my visor
[08:00] <shawn196|R40> whenever i irattach, the thinkpad always keeps initiating beam on palmos
[08:01] <adamicron> wow, irda, visor and palmos
[08:02] <adamicron> anyway about my vim issue I'm diffing vim.desktop and gvim.desktop in /usr/share/applications, they seem exactly the same except the obvious changes in command and flags
[08:02] <adamicron> I wonder if my gvim.desktop in ~/.local/share/applications is overriding the /usr/share/applications one
[08:04] <adamicron> mm renaming ~/.local/share/applications/gvim.desktop immediately removed gvim from Launcher
[08:04] <ducasse> adamicron: files in ~/.local override /usr, yes.
[08:05] <adamicron> I renamed it to gvim-usercreated.desktop, how do I start it now?
[08:05] <bishops> Hi all, anyone knows how to downgrade his/her libreoffice version? I just updated to the last one but it's super buggy in ubuntu 16.04..
[08:05] <adamicron> what I don't get is why Nautilus is offering me only vim in terminal, that I see is /usr/share/applications/vim.desktop, gedit and libreoffice (I guess frm the same directrory) but it's not getting gvim.desktop from it
[08:06] <adamicron> oh the masking was it
[08:06] <adamicron> ducasse: renaming the ~/.local/share/applications (and killing nautilus) made it see the system's desktop entry
[08:07] <adamicron> I wonder why I have the local one, I didn't create it in first place
[08:07] <adamicron> also why don't I see it anyway? if I created a desktop entry in ~/.local/share/applications I'd like to be able to use it in the system
[08:09] <shawn196|R40> grep
[08:09] <shawn196|R40> oops
[08:09] <cri13> hello i need some help..
[08:09] <cri13> not slept since yesterday 10 AM....
[08:10] <adamicron> cri13: I suggest to go sleeping then
[08:10] <cri13> not yet :)
[08:10] <adamicron> mmm ok now I have Gvim in nautilus contextual menu on text files but I don't see a way to use it as default editor
[08:10] <cri13> -> i boot on ubuntu studio rt kernel, and got black screen... i think its because nvidia's right ?
[08:11] <ducasse> !nomodeset | cri13
[08:11] <cri13> ah !
[08:11] <shawn196|R40> well dmesg | grep ttyS* helps me see what exists
[08:11] <cri13> THX going to try, im back if its ok ! THX ducasse.... im tired :)
[08:11] <cri13> lat'r
[08:11] <adamicron> ah nvm, it's in file's properties window
[08:11] <adamicron> brilliant
[08:12] <shawn196|R40> ttyS0 is the 0x3f8 serial device that is nonexistant on this thinkpad
[08:12] <adamicron> cri13: I suggest not to tackle issue at cost of sleep time, you'll take more time to figure the same things
[08:12] <shawn196|R40> and ttyS1 is the infrared port
[08:14] <shawn196|R40> I will recofigure irq 3 to 4 for the infrared
[08:14] <christophe_du_13> ducasse, I LOVe YOU :D
[08:15] <christophe_du_13> what nomodeset does exactly ?
[08:17] <christophe_du_13> why i got no sound still ? using ffado...
[08:18] <ducasse> christophe_du_13: nomodeset turns off kernel modesetting for graphics, it can be needed to install proper drivers.
[08:19] <christophe_du_13> ducasse: it turns off nouveau or nvidia or both ?
[08:21] <ducasse> christophe_du_13: not the entire driver, just kms.
[08:22] <dumle29> so I'm using the command "systemctl --user status onedrive" to check a onedrive daemon
[08:22] <dumle29> what is the equivalent version of journlctl to check the logs?
[08:22] <dumle29> journal
[08:23] <christophe_du_13> ducasse : what is kms ?
[08:25] <ducasse> christophe_du_13: kms is kernel modesetting - https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting
[08:26] <christophe_du_13> how do i register with nickserv pz ?
[08:26] <dumle29> ahh found it. It's journalctl --user-unit onedrive
[08:26] <christophe_du_13> please*
[08:26] <dumle29> horray for consistency
[08:26] <dumle29> ./msg nickserv help
[08:28] <SuperWangCC> hhh
[08:33] <cri13> i need some help : i got no sound on desktop, i use ffado...
[08:33] <bazhang> what is ffado cri13
[08:34] <cri13> firewire driver for audio soundcard firewire
[08:35] <bazhang> where was that gotten and isntalled from cri13
[08:35] <cri13> i took from KxStudio repos
[08:35] <cri13> KxStudio-repos (.deb)
[08:36] <cri13> but was on 14-04... i just updated sunday
[08:37] <bazhang> cri13, so it stopped working when you added something from an outside repo
[08:38] <cri13> no, it just never worked: sometimes i got sound but dunno why its rare and i never got sound normally.
[08:39] <cri13> all is plugged..
[08:39] <cri13> it works randomly, but generally it does not.
[08:40] <ANTIsurveillance> Hi
[08:41] <cri13> i'm (a bit..) desperate, i try to fix it since i updated sunday night, u sleep from 3 AM to 10 AM... this night i not slept yet...
[08:42] <cri13> i just want sound works
[08:42] <cri13> -> i see the waveforms playing but i hear nothing.
[08:42] <bazhang> cri13, so you added the outside repo, and it stopped working
[08:42] <cri13> which outside repo ?
[08:43] <bazhang> kxstudio
[08:43] <cri13> i went to their kxstudio.org > downloads > cliked on the debian.
[08:43] <bazhang> cri13, and after that, it stopped working
[08:43] <cri13> i dunno how it was before kxstudio i dont remember it was in 2014
[08:44] <cri13> cant tell
[08:44] <bazhang> cri13, thats why to not to add random 3rd party debs
[08:44] <cri13> and so how do i uninstall all it now ?
[08:45] <cri13> (but it's a well known audio production suite)
[08:45] <bazhang> cri13, did you first adjust sound PCM in alsa, or chech pavucontrol Before doing that
[08:45] <cri13> no
[08:45] <cri13> how i do ?
[08:45] <bazhang> open a terminal and check
[08:45] <bazhang> alsamixer
[08:45] <cri13> what i type ?
[08:45] <bazhang> alsamixer
[08:45] <cri13> then ? (got the faders..)
[08:46] <bazhang> check what level PCM is at
[08:46] <cri13> 100...... but it's strange : my firewire saffire pro 24 is not listed anymore
[08:47] <bazhang> then check that Nothing is muted
[08:47] <cri13> when i click F6 slect card
[08:47] <bazhang> so install pavucontrol and padevchooser
[08:47] <cri13> i installed pavu control i think
[08:48] <bazhang> what about the second one
[08:48] <cri13> i think i deactivated snd-dice
[08:49] <cri13> "pavucontrol
[08:49] <cri13> oups
[08:49] <bazhang> cri13, it sounds like you completely overstepped normal troubleshooting and went straight for some third party instant fix type solution
[08:49] <ANTIsurveillance> PRAY TO GOD !!!!!! Fight against NWO with God help!The final plans for the global government, one world currency, unified Luciferian religion, and the rise of the Antichrist.
[08:49] <bazhang> ANTIsurveillance, thats completely off topic here, please stop now
[08:50] <cri13> padevchooser -> no version to be instaled~~~
[08:50] <bazhang> what version of ubuntu is this cri13 , or is it a ubuntu derievative like MINT
[08:51] <Fuchs> bazhang: klined.
[08:51] <cri13> its ubuntu studio 16-04 LTS
[08:51] <bazhang> thanks Fuchs
[08:51] <Fuchs> you're welcome
[08:51] <cri13> THX Bazh for helping me, its very hard
[08:51] <bazhang> !find padevchooser
[08:51] <cri13> i'm newbie in linux
[08:52] <cri13> ?
[08:52] <bazhang> !info app-install-data
[08:52] <bazhang> !find pavucontrol
[08:53] <shawn196|R40> this seems impossible :(
[08:53] <cri13> bazh : what i must do now ?
[08:54] <wint3rmute> !core
[08:55] <cri13> so ? how i fix my sound issue ?
[08:56] <cri13> padevchooser "has no version to be installed "
[08:57] <cri13> !find padevchooser
[08:57] <cri13> bazh ?
[08:58] <Shawn186> why is infrared such a darn obstacle?
[08:59] <cri13> i'm lost :( can't fix my no sound issue
[08:59] <bazhang> cri13, does it work with a guest account
[09:00] <cri13> ?
[09:01] <cri13> bazh: i dont understand
[09:01] <bazhang> cri13,  which part. using a guest account?
[09:01] <cri13> what do you mean ?
[09:02] <bazhang> cri13, not YOUR account, a Guest account
[09:02] <cri13> no it's registered . because i downloaded a irc client
[09:02] <bazhang> cri13, not for irc, for your computer
[09:03] <cri13> yes its a account for irc
[09:03] <cri13> why ?
[09:03] <bazhang> cri13, you have a sound problem on IRC or on your computer
[09:03] <cri13> its just i JUST have no sound at all on my comp :(
[09:04] <shawn196|R40> "modprobe: FATAL: Module irda0 not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-36-generic"
[09:04]  * shawn196|R40 facepalms hard
[09:04] <bazhang> cri13, so create a guest account on your computer NOT IRC and test the sound on the Computer guest account
[09:04] <cri13> i have no sound at all
[09:05] <cri13> irc nor system
[09:05] <nzzane> Hey everyone, Just a quick question (Building ubuntu touch) What / where are the "Hardware specific git" files located?
[09:05] <bazhang> cri13, yes you said that, what is your native language, you cannot seem to understand what I am saying
[09:05] <cri13> fr
[09:05] <cri13> AH !
[09:05] <bazhang> cri13, try #ubuntu-fr
[09:06] <cri13> i go to account and create a guest account ok got it lol :)
[09:06] <cri13> nah its just i'm a bit tired
[09:06] <bazhang> yes correct
[09:06] <bazhang> cri13,  then come back when you are rested, we will still be here
[09:06] <cri13> creating account guest and i come back bazh..
[09:06] <bazhang> great
[09:07] <cri13> no i need to fix sound before, or i will sleep not or bad :)
[09:08] <cri13> i log out / test my guest , then relog on cri13...
[09:09] <shawn196|R40> the folks who got infrared to work on linux must be pure geniuses
[09:09] <shawn196|R40> they have formed more loopholes and turns than in a single city
[09:10] <shawn196|R40> I'm probably just screwing things up with my feeble attempt
[09:12] <shawn196|R40> linux defeats me, the infrared veterans are gone, I give up...\
[09:12] <cri13> re (back)
[09:12] <cri13> bazh u here ?
[09:14] <shawn196|R40> anyone here agree that trying to get something to work in linux is harder than learning a musical instrument?
[09:14] <zeej> cri13, he's arguing in ##chat as usual
[09:14] <bazhang> shawn196|R40, thats not really a support topic here
[09:14] <shawn196|R40> apparently so is irda
[09:15] <bazhang> !find lirc
[09:15] <shawn196|R40> I aint messin with lirc
[09:15] <bazhang> !info glirc
[09:15] <bazhang> hah irc
[09:15] <cri13> but u can't do music electronica if the daw wont put sound
[09:16] <bazhang> cri13, so what happened with the guest acct
[09:16] <cri13> well, no sound... the youtube video plays but no sound..
[09:16] <shawn196|R40> that, and ubuntu's infrared how to page is severely incomplete
[09:16] <bazhang> cri13, and you first checked alsamixer on this guest account too
[09:17] <cri13> i PREFER 1000X this channel that all support ways i ever went lol
[09:17] <cri13> no
[09:17] <cri13> i should ?
[09:17] <bazhang> yes of course
[09:17] <cri13> ok i go
[09:18] <dancingd3mon> anyone know what do i need to do to get the FXP ( server to server ) work ?
[09:18] <shawn196|R40> I mucked something up
[09:18] <dancingd3mon> I edited my vsftpd.conf and it works perfectly fine but I need to have SSL off which is not a good thing...
[09:19] <shawn196|R40> I dont the official irq and address layout is for infrared that those vets used
[09:19] <shawn196|R40> *dont know rather\
[09:20] <AndChat|679296> Is XOJO Good for Ubuntu?
[09:20] <AndChat|679296> 😄
[09:20] <cri13> i went, but got no terminal
[09:21] <cri13> send me to hell lol but i need to fix sound
[09:21] <shawn196|R40> okay I wont abandon just yet
[09:21] <bazhang> cri13, what prevented you from getting a terminal
[09:21] <cri13> there is not in the menu
[09:21] <shawn196|R40> I will loose more sleep over trying to figure out the ubuntu infrared system mess
[09:22] <bazhang> what about control alt T   cri13
[09:22] <shawn196|R40> with as little documentation as there is
[09:22] <AndChat|679296> Wait you aren't using Terminal??
[09:22] <cri13> shortcut wont work even my admin account
[09:22] <bazhang> cri13, you are not listening to what I am asking you, again
[09:22] <cri13> ?
[09:23] <cri13> ah
[09:23] <cri13> i go
[09:23] <cri13> i come back when done
[09:23] <AndChat|679296> ??
[09:26] <cri13> re
[09:26] <cri13> found the terminal and checked alsamixer
[09:27] <cri13> btw, my snd-dice (firewire card) disapeared, i think i typed a command to remove it, how i put it back ?
[09:27] <bazhang> how was it removed, and what is the package name cri13
[09:28] <cri13> i dont remember
[09:28] <cri13> :s
[09:28] <bazhang> cri13, thats a problem, if you cannot even recall the package name
[09:28] <cri13> :s
[09:29] <bazhang> !find snd_dice
[09:30] <cri13> found the command !!!
[09:30] <rimdeker> Hey all, I recently installed Ubuntu with / being on a 2 device BTRFS Raid 0 and it appears as though grub breaks in the background every now and then, giving me a "kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)" error
[09:30] <cri13> "sudo modprobe -r snd-dice"
[09:30] <cri13> how i turn it back ?
[09:32] <cri13> tried "sudo modprobe -a snd-dice" but nothing pass
[09:32] <cri13> and still not anymore my friewire card on pulse mixer
[09:33] <cri13> gonna try a reboot to see if it loads back at launch
[09:33] <cri13> ...................
[09:34] <VsyachePuz> is this true or fake - https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1650/23841485703_0fc529a77b.jpg
[09:34] <steveee> is the kde plasma 5.5.5 official or backport for kubuntu?
[09:35] <bazhang> steveee, did you check the topic or ask in #kubuntu yet
[09:36] <steveee> they never answer anything
[09:36] <bazhang> then be patient steveee
[09:36] <steveee> like one day?
[09:37] <munsking> Hello, i'm having issues with isc-dhcp-server, i want it to give out 10.0.0.0-10.0.0.254 but whenever my client tries to connect to it, the server says it has no leases to give (fresh installs, they're the only 2 hosts in the virtual network)
[09:41] <cri13> re, i launched the normal kernel the soundcard shows in pulseaudio mixer, but not anymore in rt kernel
[09:41] <gr1dl0ck> steveeee: check the release notes
[09:41] <steveeee> oh thanks
[09:41] <gr1dl0ck> steveeee: https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.5.5.php
[09:41] <bazhang> cri13,  you said nothing about having an rt kernel til just this moment
[09:41] <Triffid_Hunter> munsking: got something like subnet 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 10.0.0.2-10.0.0.254; } in your /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf ? did you relaunch dhcpd after editing the conf? are you pointing it at the right interface (see /etc/conf.d/dhcpd ) ?
[09:41] <cri13> ah sry
[09:41] <cri13> i thinked yes
[09:41] <Triffid_Hunter> munsking: oh sorry, wrong channel, that's gentoo stuff :/ not sure how to do it in ubuntu
[09:42] <munsking> Triffid_Hunter: yes, yes and yes
[09:42] <bazhang> cri13, so the normal kernel sound works fine, ist that correct
[09:42] <cri13> but even in the normal kernel i have no sound
[09:42] <Triffid_Hunter> munsking: does dhcpd have a log someplace you could check?
[09:42] <cri13> no
[09:42] <Triffid_Hunter> munsking: personally I'm using dnsmasq these days because it has a few extra goodies
[09:43] <halbarad> hi everyone. my ubuntu 16.04 doesn't show the launcher, menubar or window borders anymore. i tried several solutions on forums but nothing worked. anyone think they might be able to help?
[09:43] <cri13> why in this rt kernel i got not my firewire card ?
[09:43] <bazhang> cri13,  you have done so much modification to your system with adding outside repo packages, not following or listening here, keeping back many details, its really not possible to help you at this point
[09:43] <cri13> she is not in pulse audio mixer nor alsamixer
[09:44] <cri13> what i gonna do ? :(((((
[09:44] <munsking> Triffid_Hunter: ok, i'll look into that
[09:45] <bazhang> cri13, boot up a live cd and see if the sound works in the LIVE cd/usb environment
[09:45] <cri13> ok
[09:45] <cri13> ..
[09:48] <ashardalon> hi all
[09:49] <ashardalon> there's no hibernate button in by 16x edition of ubuntu? how do I add this feature?
[09:49] <ashardalon> *my edition
[09:51] <ubuntu752> hello there
[09:52] <ChosenOne> hi!
[09:52] <ubuntu752> i am new to linux, i am trying to allow my inbound connection to connect port 80 and restrict outbound connection to port 80. i am unable to do this and confused with iptables
[09:52] <ubuntu752> please help me
[09:53] <scottc1> Have you looked into UFW? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[09:54] <shawn196|R40> in /etc/modprobe.d/irda-utils.conf, what am I supposed to write for fir?
[09:55] <ubuntu752> scottc1: can be this done via iptables command ??
[09:56] <scottc1> ubuntu752: Think of it as a 'wrapper' for iptables
[09:58] <cri13> re, even with live CD i got no sound
[09:59] <zetheroo> Odd issue .. I can ssh from within system A into system B, but I cannot SSH into system A from system B. 'Connection reset by 192.168.81.75 port 22'
[09:59] <k1l_> zetheroo: is a ssh server running on that system?
[09:59] <cri13> i'm desperate.... 5 days & night i try to fix
[10:00] <zetheroo> k1l_: yes
[10:00] <k1l_> does nmap find that port?
[10:00] <ubuntu752> scottc1: thank you so much, got it
[10:00] <zetheroo> and there is no firewall rule blocking it
[10:01] <shawn196|R40> modprobe: FATAL: Module irtty not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-36-generic
[10:01] <shawn196|R40>  :(
[10:01] <cri13> bazh, u have an idea about my problem ?
[10:01] <zetheroo> k1l: I used netstat to see if sshd was listening on port 22 and it is - what can I do with nmap?
[10:01] <k1l_> zetheroo: start "nmap ip" from that other machine and see what ports it lists
[10:02] <cri13> i not done much modifications to the system, just insatlled kxstudio & bitwig
[10:02] <cri13> +2-3 stuffs
[10:02] <zetheroo> k1l_: from system A?
[10:02] <Triffid_Hunter> zetheroo: on A can you ssh localhost?
[10:02] <Triffid_Hunter> zetheroo: also check sshd log, connection reset may be caused by some weirdness with the crypto stuff
[10:03] <bazhang> cri13, you dont liesten to what people say here, and have installed many things from outside ubuntu supported repos
[10:03] <zetheroo> Triffid_Hunter: no 'Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer'
[10:03] <cri13> but bitwig is a daw, i cant find it on repos
[10:03] <k1l_> zetheroo: from that other machine that cant connect
[10:03] <cri13> its a dvd
[10:03] <Triffid_Hunter> zetheroo: that could be sshd crashing and being restarted by its init script, definitely check its log
[10:04] <k1l_> zetheroo: please first try with nmap to rule out network/connection issues
[10:04] <cri13> apart that daw i installed steam, kx studio and bitwig
[10:04] <cri13> thats all
[10:04] <zetheroo> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23181526/
[10:05] <cri13> and clementine
[10:05] <k1l_> zetheroo: ok. and when you run "ssh ip" it doesnt work?
[10:05] <zetheroo> k1l: Connection closed by 192.168.81.75
[10:06] <k1l_> zetheroo: you can add -v to ssh to get more information. you can look at the auth.log on the server to see more information, too
[10:06] <halbarad> my ubuntu 16.04 doesn't show the launcher, menubar and window borders anymore. any help?
[10:06] <zetheroo> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23181577/
[10:06] <k1l_> halbarad: please logout, and try another user or guest account. do the work there?
[10:07] <cri13> i cant understand why i got no sound, it should work
[10:07] <shawn196|R40> heres my updated dmesg
[10:07] <shawn196|R40> http://hastebin.com/iveqeneheb.go
[10:08] <k1l_> zetheroo: i guess your server did deny rootlogin (which is very good). please use ssh user@ip with a working user from that servers system
[10:08] <cri13> bazh, i'm only on #ubuntu channel or also on #ubuntustudio one ?
[10:08] <cri13> i dunno irc very much
[10:09] <zetheroo> k1l: auth.log on 192.168.81.75 is not showing any errors about this
[10:09] <halbarad> k1l_: yes, guest session has launcher, menu and window borders
[10:10] <zetheroo> k1l: ssh with user account http://paste.ubuntu.com/23181666/
[10:10] <cri13> .... thank you bazh for all your patience
[10:10] <cri13> i think i gonna try on ubuntustudios chan
[10:10] <k1l_> halbarad: ok. so when you login to your user, open a terminal with ctrl+alt+t and then run "mv .config .config.old" that will rename your .config folder to .config.old. after a relogin it should work again
[10:10] <cri13> maybe they will know
[10:10] <cri13> its so strange
[10:10] <cri13> cya later
[10:14] <shawn196|R40> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'smsc_ircc2': No such device
[10:14]  * shawn196|R40 facepalm
[10:14] <zetheroo> k1l: are there any other logs I can look at?
[10:16] <halbarad> k1l_: ctrl+alt+t didn't work. neither did ctrl+shift+t. but i was able to open a terminal by right clicking desktop. renamed .config but now i can't "reboot" since the guest is still logged in (i switched). is there a way to log him out via terminal?
[10:16] <k1l_> halbarad: no reboot needed. just logout and in again
[10:17] <halbarad> k1l_: i don't know how to logout without the interface XD
[10:18] <k1l_> halbarad: gnome-session-quit --no-prompt
[10:19] <Shawn186> lawl
[10:19] <Shawn186> theres 2 config files /etc/modprobe.d/irda-utils and /etc/modprobe.d/irda-utils.conf x_x
[10:19] <Shawn186> it wont work without both
[10:20] <k1l_> zetheroo: what says the auth.log on the serverside?
[10:21] <halbarad> k1l_: thanks, i logged back in but still no interface.
[10:23] <shawn196|R40> darn this thing modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'smsc_ircc2': No such device
[10:23] <shawn196|R40> STILL wont work
[10:25] <halbarad> k1l_: i tried a few things i found in forums before i got here... i can try to list them if that helps
[10:26] <shawn196|R40> well.. at least I fixed the IrLMP discovery log.. "nickname: Shawn-T5, hint: 0x8220, saddr: 0x2bbad303, daddr: 0x4105657e"
[10:35] <shawn196|R40> "modprobe: FATAL: Module /dev/ircomm0 not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-36-generic"
[10:36] <shawn196|R40> anyone have a virtual gun that I can shoot this with?
[10:36] <shawn196|R40> nothing I am doing is helping
[10:36] <shawn196|R40> none of the documentation I am going through is of any benefit
[10:36] <shawn196|R40> for ircomm
[10:40] <Mavericks> Hello
[10:40] <Mavericks> Has anyone had issues with saving changes made to ubuntu image on Docker as per
[10:41] <Mavericks> after executing docker run -it ubuntu bash as per https://docs.docker.com/docker-for-windows/
[10:41] <shawn196|R40> who here has successfully gotten irda to communicate with a palmos device?
[10:41] <bulletxt> hi, until when will ubuntu 12.04 receive security updates? thanks
[10:41] <shawn196|R40> 12.04 is ancient
[10:41] <shawn196|R40> we are on 16.04
[10:41] <bulletxt> answer my question
[10:41] <bulletxt> or shut up
[10:41] <shawn196|R40> wow
[10:41] <Mavericks> shawn196|R40: but there should be a LTE policy right ?
[10:42] <Mavericks> shawn196|R40: I think there's one for a version while back 8.x
[10:42] <Mavericks> that talked about updates or when it'll be disconinuted further support of any kind (including security updates) ?
[10:43] <shawn196|R40> wow, long eol
[10:43] <shawn196|R40> that is neat
[10:43] <bulletxt> seems that 12.04 will be supported until end 2017 more or less
[10:44] <bulletxt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[10:44] <shawn196|R40> why do they support older releases that long?
[10:44] <Ben64> not end of 2017, april
[10:44] <k1l_> !lts | shawn196|R40
[10:44] <bulletxt> Ben64:  thanks
[10:45] <k1l_> bulletxt: please dont use foul language in here. and keep in mind that only packages in main repo get updates.
[10:45] <shawn196|R40> well, ubottu shared the same info I just read, not exactly an answer :/
[10:46] <Ben64> Long term support is the answer
[10:46] <shawn196|R40> are the older releases of ubuntu good for older hardware?
[10:46] <k1l_> shawn196|R40: because people dont like to upgrade that often. especially commercial user setups
[10:46] <shawn196|R40> I know what lts is, just trying to figure out "why"
[10:46] <shawn196|R40> ah\
[10:47] <k1l_> just look at how many windows xp are still out there, no matter that doesnt get any security updates anymore.
[10:48] <shawn196|R40> where might some documentation to set up ircomm be?
[10:48] <shawn196|R40> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto is of no help with this
[10:48] <bulletxt> k1l_: yea sorry for the language
[10:50] <shawn196|R40> I wont hold it against ya bulletxt
[10:51] <shawn196|R40> all that how to page teaches me to do is get infrared to discovery
[10:51] <shawn196|R40> *working discovery
[10:52] <shawn196|R40> it can see both of my devices
[10:52] <shawn196|R40> let me try my 3rd
[10:52] <redryder> I have installed 16.04 and now my 3 hd's don't communicate with each other like they did in 13.04. Can I get some help with making them traade data again?
[10:53] <Ben64> can you elaborate on what you mean by 'communicate with each other' and 'trade data'
[10:53] <shawn196|R40> I feel like i am annoyance :(
[10:54] <redryder> Ubuntu sees all 3 of my hd's but when I try to move data from on to another it doesn't work
[10:55] <redryder> It tells me permission denied
[10:55] <k1l_> redryder: where and how did you mount them?
[10:55] <milikl> hi
[10:56] <milikl> is it possible to disable compize effects with dconf editor?
[10:57] <milikl> for example i changed windows placing to center,but nothing happend!
[10:58] <zetheroo>  k1l_: regarding the auth.log - there is nothing there from the last couple hours when I was trying to ssh in
[10:58] <redryder> I used the Disks app and told it to mount on startup
[10:59] <milikl> no body???
[11:00] <redryder> I can move data from the 2 spare drives to the master but not the other way. I wnat to be able to move data off the master and onto the spares
[11:01] <zetheroo> k1l: auth.log https://clbin.com/7rJ4B
[11:04] <docgi>  
[11:07] <zetheroo> any new ideas?
[11:07] <zetheroo> I cannot ssh into a system, but I can ssh from that system out to another system
[11:10] <redryder> Well, I will try again later in the day.
[11:13] <hoormahn> Hi; I want to make my laptop a hotspot to share internet through the lug meeting. Is it possible to be established somehow?
[11:15] <shawn196|R40> lubuntu..why must it fight me with irda
[11:16] <shawn196|R40> I have reconfigured in my bios Infrared to take the I/O address 0x3F8, and the interrupt to IRQ4, as the howto page has described
[11:16] <shawn196|R40> I guess ircomm0 does not egist
[11:16] <shawn196|R40> *exist
[11:20] <zetheroo> is there a way to reset all file permissions to default ?
[11:22] <EriC^^> zetheroo: did you run a chmod -R command ?
[11:22] <zetheroo> EriC^^: it seems it was done from a FreeNAS server which hosts a bunch of OpenVZ containers .. now all those containers are messed up :P
[11:23] <adityaduggal> hey can any let me know how to enable fingerprint login in 16.04 Ubuntu
[11:30] <halbarad> my ubuntu 16.04 doesn't show the launcher, menubar and window borders anymore. any help? here's a list of things i already tried: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23181835/
[11:33] <binary01> apt-get install unity
[11:36] <Anticom> What would be the best way to install a glyph patched font like Hack or Sauce code pro so that i can use it with vim-powerline?
[11:36] <Anticom> is there a ppa or what's the recommended way of installing such fonts? (I'm on xenial)
[11:37] <halbarad> binary01: sadly that didn't help either
[11:42] <halbarad> maybe i should mention that the problem only exists for the main user. guest account has a working UI. that's why k1l_ suggested renaming my .config folder i guess.
[11:43] <atralheaven> is using clonezilla a safe way to backup my root partition? how about ubuntu live and using Disks program to create an image of the partition?
[11:45] <wish^> Is there something very wrong with the newest versions of Unity? When i i was on Unity simple indexing and index searching in Sublime lagged, as soon as I switched desktop env it is all normal.
[11:51] <Pumpur> hello
[11:52] <ancel> um, hello. i'm trying to install ubuntu, and i just got the iso file downloaded, but i was wondering if it has any sort of digital signature on it that i could check before i use it?
[11:53] <ioria> !md5sum | ancel
[11:53] <ancel> oh, thank you!
[11:55] <binary01> rm -rf ~/.config
[11:58] <workerbeetwo> Hi. Is there a good reason why ubuntu has different clipboards, instead of one? When I click copy something I often still want to keyboard paste it in. enoying.
[12:03] <lordcirth> workerbeetwo, because it's handy.  You could probably make a second keyboard shortcut to paste from the the buffer.
[12:04] <ppf_> so, i've still had no luck with this: xrandr shows an output as "disconnected" even though it is connected
[12:04] <ppf_> is there a way to query more information? e.g. why it appears to be disconnected?
[12:04] <jj-jj> does anyone have experience with nginx here?
[12:05] <ppf_> the setup is this: i'm on a laptop, that's connected via a DP-to-VGA adapter to a beamer
[12:06] <Mathisen> hehe >> https://torrentfreak.com/paramount-wipes-infringing-ubuntu-torrent-google-160909/ what is that about ? :)
[12:06] <dude> Which permission, when applied to a directory in the file system, will allow a user to enter into the directory in ubuntu?
[12:06] <ppf_> the plugged in beamer is not detected, though
[12:06] <jj-jj> chown: missing operand after ‘www-data:www-data’
[12:06] <jj-jj> Try 'chown --help' for more information.
[12:06] <jj-jj> root@lemp-512mb-lon1-01:/var/www# chown www-data:www-data itom
[12:06] <jj-jj> root@lemp-512mb-lon1-01:/var/www# ls -la
[12:06] <jj-jj> total 16
[12:06] <jj-jj> I any one has chance, please take a look at my stackoverflow question
[12:07] <ioria> dude, x
[12:08] <dude> thanks
[12:08] <ioria> np
[12:15] <HanzsWolfgang> Hi, I have recently updated my 14.04 desktop and now i can not boot. I am getting an error that it can not mount /boot/efi. When i look in dmesg i get tthe error 'io charset iso8858-1 not found'
[12:16] <HanzsWolfgang> I am currently booting from a Live cd
[12:16] <EriC^^> HanzsWolfgang: hi, type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[12:17] <HanzsWolfgang> Ok, installed
[12:18] <EriC^^> then sudo parted -l | pastebinit and paste the link here
[12:18] <HanzsWolfgang> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23181923/
[12:19] <EriC^^> HanzsWolfgang: type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[12:20] <HanzsWolfgang> done
[12:20] <EriC^^> HanzsWolfgang: (sudo blkid; cat /mnt/etc/fstab) | pastebinit
[12:21] <HanzsWolfgang> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23181935/
[12:22] <EriC^^> HanzsWolfgang: it looks fine, what did you mean by you updated 14.04? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:22] <HanzsWolfgang> installed nvidia drivers
[12:23] <EriC^^> ok, try sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[12:23] <HanzsWolfgang> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23181940/
[12:24] <dude> a command to find all files which are accessed before 5 days and has a size less than 1 MB
[12:24] <dude> in ubuntu
[12:24] <HanzsWolfgang> from what i was reading online, it seems like the kernel does not have fat or vfat support
[12:25] <HanzsWolfgang> does that make sense?
[12:25] <geirha> find . -mtime -5 -size -1000000c -print
[12:25] <EriC^^> HanzsWolfgang: try sudo fsck -a /dev/sda1
[12:25] <geirha> and -type f, I guess
[12:25] <ikonia> geirha: atime
[12:25] <ikonia> not mtime ?
[12:25] <ikonia> access time not modified
[12:26] <HanzsWolfgang> same as above
[12:26] <ikonia> HanzsWolfgang: kernel has excellent vfat/fat32 support
[12:26] <EriC^^> HanzsWolfgang: ok, sudo chroot /mnt
[12:26] <dude> a command to find all files which are accessed before 5 days and has a size less than 1 MB any help please
[12:26] <ikonia> dude: man find, look at the atime option and the size option
[12:27] <ikonia> dude: you could also include -type f (for files as geirha suggested)
[12:28] <dude> can u tell d command if you know?
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:35] <zetheroo> is there a way to set the permissions (644) to all the files within a list of directories?
[12:36] <lordcirth> zetheroo, I think 'find' has some features for only matching on files, not directories
[12:38] <geirha> Yeah, find dir1 dir2 -type f -exec chmod -v 644 {} +
[12:39] <zetheroo> ok, will give that a whirl
[12:39] <zetheroo> geirha: awesome tks
[12:46] <dude> need to print only the files that doesn't belong to group Admin. in ubuntu
[12:46] <dude> need to print only the files that doesn't belong to group Admin  in ubuntu? any help guys?
[12:47] <Anticom> Hi all. I've just installed https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts using their install.sh script. Problem now is, that unity-tweak-tool doesn't want to find my fonts (that have been installed to .local/usr/share)
[12:47] <Anticom> Btw I'm on xenial
[12:47] <Anticom> What am i missing?
[12:48] <zetheroo> is there command to chown all files and folders in all home dirs to the respective user?
[12:50] <geirha> There's a font cache that needs to be updated, probably. I don't remember the command for that though.
[12:51] <danielthebague> Does anyone know if the relink rt3290 will be supported in the next stable kernel release
[12:53] <ducasse> danielthebague: you would need to ask in ##linux, i guess, someone there might know.
[12:53] <danielthebague> OK thank you
[12:54] <Anticom> zetheroo: iirc you can use wildcards with chown. so something like chown usr:grp ./* would work i guess
[12:54] <Anticom> zetheroo: oh and provide -R
[12:54] <Anticom> to do it recursivly
[12:54] <geirha> zetheroo: How did the ownerships get messed up in the first place?
[12:54] <zetheroo> ok
[12:54] <zetheroo> geirha: bad juju
[12:54] <zetheroo> :P
[12:55] <Anticom> lel
[12:55] <zetheroo> OpenVZ CT's stored on FreeNAS shared storage ... set the perms on the dataset to recursive ...
[12:57] <Anticom> geirha: 'fc-cache -f -v' seems to do the right thing
[12:57] <Anticom> hm + sudo i guess
[12:58] <geirha> sudo is more likely to do harm there
[12:58] <Anticom> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts #Manually
[12:58] <Anticom> they suggested sudo, but i went w/o it first
[12:59] <Anticom> There where some issues with /var/cache/fontonfig and others
[12:59] <Anticom> with sudo it worked just fine
[12:59] <geirha> oh dear, the instructions in that wiki page are definitely wrong
[12:59] <Anticom> geirha: unity-tweak-tool also still refuses to find the new fonts :/
[12:59] <geirha> wrong quoting, and none of the commands should be run with sudo
[13:00] <Anticom> So did i break something?
[13:00] <geirha> *none of the commands working on your homedir, that is
[13:01] <geirha> it might have left some files owned by root in your homedir
[13:01] <OerHeks> Anticom, logout/login and try again
[13:02] <Anticom> geirha: users seem to be find
[13:03] <Anticom> *fine
[13:03] <Anticom> brb, relogging
[13:06] <7YUAB2SWX> Hm, that's weird. I guess it's just missing Hack font, although it's in the patched-font folder in the gh repo
[13:06] <Anticom> however it's not in .local/share/fonts
[13:07] <OerHeks> tons of issues with that font package https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts/issues
[13:08] <sergey> привет
[13:08] <Anticom> OerHeks: Problem is the powerline/fonts are missing some glyphs my vim setup is using
[13:09] <kalil> hi
[13:09] <Pumpur> hi
[13:09] <Pumpur> what are you doing?
[13:09] <ribbit_dude> hey, can someone help me with my graphics card problem. I installed some fglrx drivers a while ago and it ruined everything. Someone from the oshcat forum told me installing a step back fglrx driver would be smart. Then i logged in here to see what else can i do, so someone told me i should try "sudo apt-get install radeon", long story short nothing is working
[13:10] <OerHeks> ribbit_dude, on what ubuntu version, and what videocard?
[13:10] <Pumpur> try xorg
[13:10] <ribbit_dude> OerHeks: 16.04 and a ATI saphire 5830
[13:11] <k1l_> there is no fglrx anymore. amd stopped making it
[13:11] <streulma> you have to use the opensource drivers
[13:11] <OerHeks> ribbit_dude, then the standard radeon driver is loaded, be happy with it.
[13:12] <ribbit_dude> OerHeks: but i cant go up to higher resolutions
[13:12] <streulma> who has a DSDT patch for Asus?
[13:13] <ribbit_dude> ok i give up, what are the default drivers?
[13:13] <ribbit_dude> am i really stuck with those sh*tty drivers?
[13:13] <Pumpur> i think x.org
[13:14] <Pumpur> maybe theres a better controllpanel
[13:14] <Pumpur> for the driver
[13:14] <ribbit_dude> "controllpanel"
[13:14] <ribbit_dude> are you sure you're certified to say that? ;)
[13:14] <streulma> ribbit_dude if you install Ubuntu and nothing do after that you have the default
[13:14] <OerHeks> ribbit_dude, lspci -k | egrep -i 'vga|in use' | grep -i vga -A 1
[13:15] <OerHeks> that should show radeon
[13:15] <Pumpur> maybe this helps for the moment https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[13:15] <streulma> OerHeks how is that possible? It says Intel by me and I have installed Nvidia 950M drivers
[13:16] <ribbit_dude> OerHeks: i have a 5830 Cypress card
[13:16] <OerHeks> radeon works fine here, multi screen, youtube, no lag on ati hd5xxx
[13:16] <ribbit_dude> trust me
[13:16] <ribbit_dude> OerHeks: on what resolution?
[13:17] <ribbit_dude> OerHeks: also what standard video drivers do you have?
[13:17] <ribbit_dude> did you set up the resolution manually?
[13:17] <OerHeks> 1920x1080 + 1600x900 something
[13:18] <streulma> ribbit_dude I should say, reinstall your pc and you have the default ones
[13:19] <ribbit_dude> streulma: i cant
[13:19] <Anticom> streulma: That's the windows way of doing things
[13:19] <ribbit_dude> streulma: lets make it a challange not to start with a new leaf
[13:20] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: can't you just blacklist fglrx and make sure readeon is not blacklisted?
[13:20] <ribbit_dude> ducasse: how do i do that?
[13:20] <holdie> Hi guys, if I follow this procedure https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet will I be able to install ubuntu using wireless?
[13:21] <OerHeks> he has no fglrx, as it will not install
[13:21] <OerHeks> holdie, no, wired internet only
[13:21] <ducasse> OerHeks: "15:09 <ribbit_dude> hey, can someone help me with my graphics card problem. I installed some fglrx drivers a while ago and it ruined everything."
[13:22] <OerHeks> and then installed radeon, both statements are questionable.
[13:22] <ribbit_dude> OerHeks: come to think of it, i really dont, i got a "Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
[13:22] <ribbit_dude> maybe thats just the command line driver one
[13:22] <ribbit_dude> idk how to re-activate my old driver
[13:22] <holdie> OerHeks: with debian you can download non-free firmware and use a removable storage to feed the firmware when you install. Can I do something similar with ubuntu?
[13:23] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: grep through /etc/modprobe.d/*, look for a radeon blacklist and remove it. then blacklist fglrx _if_ it is installed.
[13:24] <OerHeks> that non-free firmware package is removed, due to funny license questions https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64/linux-firmware-nonfree/1.16
[13:25] <OerHeks> holdie, and no, i don't know a way to do it wireless :-(
[13:25] <holdie> oh :( okay then, I didn't want to buy a cable...
[13:25] <ribbit_dude> ducasse: YES, there is a blacklist-fglrx.conf
[13:26] <ribbit_dude> and there is an uncommented "blacklist radeon"
[13:26] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: is there a line in it that says 'blacklist radeon'?
[13:26] <ribbit_dude> yes
[13:26] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: change it to 'blacklist fglrx'
[13:26] <ribbit_dude> ducasse: thanks a lot!!!
[13:26] <ribbit_dude> brb maybe ;)
[13:27] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: hope it works :)
[13:29] <ribbit_dude> hello
[13:29] <ribbit_dude> im back
[13:29] <ribbit_dude> there was a dude
[13:29] <ribbit_dude> that helped me
[13:29] <ribbit_dude> duncan something
[13:30] <ribbit_dude> it was "duncan in my head" for some weird reason
[13:30] <bull> hi by blue-tooth not working in 16.04 while it was in 14.04
[13:31] <ribbit_dude> ducasse: was it you?
[13:31] <ribbit_dude> DuncanT: was it you?
[13:31] <zetheroo> there is about 20 home dirs on this system and I want to chown all the contents of each home dir to it's respective user:group - is there a command that will make this possible without me having to do the command 'chown -R usr:grp dir' 20 times?
[13:32] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: yes, me.
[13:32] <ribbit_dude> :)
[13:32] <ribbit_dude> ok
[13:32] <ribbit_dude> so good news
[13:32] <ribbit_dude> i have a better resolution
[13:32] <ribbit_dude> BUT, i dont have a login screen, i think i screwed up my xorg file while i tried to fix it before
[13:32] <ribbit_dude> i think i have an old backup
[13:32] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: you can delete xorg.conf, or move it out of the way.
[13:33] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: it is autogenerated on start of x.
[13:33] <ribbit_dude> alright
[13:33] <ribbit_dude> let me start it again :)
[13:34] <lv2eof> exit
[13:35] <ub_ubuntu> Ubuntu 16.04 is failing to load new installed kernels
[13:35] <ribbit_dude> ducasse: ok
[13:35] <ribbit_dude> so its p much the same
[13:35] <ribbit_dude> i get a /dev/sda1 clean
[13:35] <ribbit_dude> and a bunch of flickering on my screen, and yet there is no login screen
[13:36] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[13:37] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999'
[13:38] <ribbit_dude> ducasse: http://termbin.com/5p22
[13:39] <BytesAndCoffee> who else here is running Windows Subsystem for Linux? what workarounds have you done to improve functionality (aside from dbus on tcp)
[13:40] <ub_ubuntu> ubuntu always loads the same old kernel.. how do I change this. Also List of new kernels will not show up even after installing them in the boot grub menu
[13:40] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: try 'sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-ati'
[13:40] <ducasse> !ubuwin | BytesAndCoffee
[13:41] <ribbit_dude> ducasse: do i have to reboot after this?
[13:41] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: no
[13:41] <halbarad> my ubuntu 16.04 doesn't show the launcher, menubar and window borders anymore. any help? here's a list of things i already tried: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23181835/
[13:41] <ribbit_dude> ducasse: didnt work
[13:41] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: 'sudo systemctl restart lightdm'
[13:41] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: didn't work how?
[13:42] <ribbit_dude> ducasse: O SHIT tnx
[13:42] <ribbit_dude> it worked
[13:42] <ribbit_dude> tho, how can i prevent it from happening again?
[13:42] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: don't install fglrx again, and you should be fine :)
[13:42] <jamie_1> hey im not sure why im getting this error all of a sudden, i have been using this program for the last month. symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libancurl.so: undefined symbol: SSL_load_error_strings
[13:43] <jamie_1> it suddenly stopped working today
[13:43] <ribbit_dude> ducasse: hehehe :P
[13:43] <ribbit_dude> ducasse: thanks :D
[13:43] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: all is good now?
[13:43] <ribbit_dude> yeah
[13:43] <ribbit_dude> also, 1 tiny question
[13:43] <ribbit_dude> are you german?
[13:43] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: no problem, glad to help :) no, norwegian.
[13:43] <ribbit_dude> ohh lol :D
[13:44] <ribbit_dude> ya nvm :P
[13:44] <ribbit_dude> bye dude, thanks a bunch
[13:45] <jamie_1> the program that stoped working is clearpassonguard, i tried installing openssl1.0.2 but did not help at all... still says i have openssh0.9.8
[13:45] <ribbit_dude> ducasse: i lied
[13:45] <ribbit_dude> i actually had 1 more problem
[13:46] <ribbit_dude> the problem is my resolution
[13:46] <ducasse> jamie_1: openssl and openssh are different
[13:46] <jamie_1> ducasse: typo
[13:46] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: which res do you have and which do you want?
[13:46] <jamie_1> i realized i said ssh on accident after i hit enter
[13:46] <ducasse> jamie_1: ic :)
[13:47] <ribbit_dude> ducasse: 1024x768 i have and i want 1600x1200
[13:47] <jamie_1> ducasse: i know the difference, i use ssh for my github repositores
[13:47] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: and you can't select a higher resolution in the gui settings?
[13:47] <ribbit_dude> ducasse: nope :(
[13:48] <jamie_1> so im guessing no one has a clue?
[13:50] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: long answer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution short answer - http://askubuntu.com/questions/377937/how-to-set-a-custom-resolution
[13:51] <ducasse> jamie_1: could it have been broken on an update?
[13:53] <ducasse> jamie_1: you can also run 'ldd' on the binary, see which libraries (and thus versions) it loads
[13:54] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: that's about as much as i can help you i'm afraid, i haven't written x modelines in 15+ years.
[13:59] <jamie_1> ducasse: i havent updated since last week
[13:59] <ducasse> jamie_1: ok, try ldd to see which openssl version it loads
[14:01]  * [gnubie] waves
[14:01] <jamie_1> ducasse: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8910341
[14:02] <[gnubie]> i’m on xenial amd64. if i execute debootstrap directly from the cli, i can successfully finish the debootstrap.. however, if i execute it within my script, i always ended up only until Extracting zlib1g…
[14:03] <[gnubie]> has anyone experience the same issue?
[14:04] <whaler> Hello ?
[14:04] <ducasse> jamie_1: looks like /usr/lib/libancurl.so is linked against openssl, not your app, but i can't tell you why it suddenly fails.
[14:04] <[gnubie]> i searched google and i found a similar issue but with using an iso image => https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vm-builder/+bug/1587981
[14:04] <jamie_1> ducasse: any ideas on how to solve it?
[14:05] <halbarad> anyone know how i can get my UI back on ubuntu 16.04? launcher, menubar, window borders... even the shortcuts like alt+tab don't work anymore.
[14:05] <ducasse> jamie_1: i'm thinking, but when the cause is unknown...
[14:06] <ribbit_dude> ducasse: ok, one problem, when i tried to switch to 1600x1200 it gave me an out of range
[14:06] <jamie_1> ducasse: i understand that completely.. my issue is im not sure how to even debug this as the console error is so undescriptive
[14:06] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: do you know that the monitor supports it?
[14:06] <ribbit_dude> yeah, i did it for ages
[14:07] <ducasse> jamie_1: you could try ##linux, see if anyone there has any ideas. i'm not sure what to suggest.
[14:07] <jamie_1> wtf... i am having some inetersting issues today... now i cant get npm to work
[14:08] <[gnubie]> anyone..?
[14:08] <jamie_1> ducasse: now npm is trying to tell me that /usr/bin/env does not exist XD
[14:08] <jamie_1> im pretty sure i can say today is going to be intersting
[14:09] <ducasse> ribbit_dude: maybe the edid from the monitor is being read incorrectly, i really don't know.
[14:10] <dude> Change the color of top output in ubuntu
[14:10] <dude> Change the color of top command output in ubuntu any help
[14:10] <dude> ?
[14:10] <vikneshwar> Hi can anyone here help me fix broken dpkg
[14:10] <ducasse> dude: use htop instead
[14:11] <vikneshwar> i tried to install dropbox from software center , it got stuck so i cancelled the installation
[14:11] <jamie_1> fixed it
[14:11] <ducasse> jamie_1: exactly what does npm say?
[14:11] <ducasse> jamie_1: ok
[14:11] <jamie_1> well the npm issue... the symbolic link was missing ducasse
[14:12] <jamie_1> i got lazy... instead of just creating i just install node-legacy which creates it also :P
[14:12] <vikneshwar> now , if i try to use dpkg , it says dpkg is locked , i deleted the lock file (which i shouldn't)
[14:12] <ducasse> vikneshwar: try 'sudo apt install -f ; sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[14:13] <vikneshwar> if i try to install any other , it says to run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:13] <ub_ubuntu> dude: use htop
[14:13] <ub_ubuntu> dude: use htop instead
[14:14] <vikneshwar> but even if i run it , dropbox is downloading , and its downloading like hours , still at 50%
[14:14] <vikneshwar> ducasse , i did it and still dropbox is downloading at very slow rate
[14:15] <ducasse> vikneshwar: nothing we can do about that, let it finish or stop and purge it.
[14:15] <cscf> vikneshwar, much slower than your internet is normally?
[14:15] <OerHeks> vikneshwar, downloading, syncing all your stuff .. be happy \0/
[14:15] <vikneshwar> ducasse:
[14:16] <cscf> OerHeks, he means the package downloading, I think
[14:16] <vikneshwar> ducasse: i guess i should do it
[14:17] <vikneshwar> cscf yeah , i have 15Mbps connection , but i dosent seem to use full bandwith
[14:17] <ducasse> jamie_1: /usr/lib/libancurl.so is not in the ubuntu repos, did it come with the application?
[14:17] <vikneshwar> bandwidth*
[14:17] <OerHeks> dropbox .. maybe there is an UELA to accept.?
[14:18] <jamie_1> ducasse: yes its a propritary program sadly as it is a network authentification software
[14:18] <cscf> vikneshwar, just to clarify, is this apt downloading the dropbox package that is slow?  Probably just a slow mirror
[14:18] <ducasse> jamie_1: you can try running ldd on it to see if it loads the system openssl or it's own version
[14:20] <vikneshwar> cscf yeah  apt is slow , even i tried to update mirror from software and updates  and choose best mirror
[14:20] <jamie_1> ducasse: we already did that
[14:21] <ducasse> jamie_1: no, that was on the binary of the program, wasn't it?
[14:23] <totonne98> we
[14:23] <Lerz> hello
[14:23] <Dubli> fieri
[14:23] <totonne98> we
[14:23] <Dubli> nacchi gia raspa
[14:23] <totonne98> yeah
[14:23] <Dubli> culo
[14:23] <OerHeks> Dubli, english only, please
[14:24] <zhar> "Device cannot be used during update"
[14:24] <zhar> ops
[14:25] <ducasse> jamie_1: it looks like the program loads the system openssl and a couple of other crypto libs. exactly where the problem stems from i can't tell.
[14:25] <zhar> In ubunut software I get a "firware update" with the description
[14:25] <zhar> "Device cannot be used during update"
[14:25] <zhar> without an update button
[14:25] <zhar> what is that?
[14:26] <totonne98> ehi
[14:26] <totonne98> sorry
[14:26] <baudster> rc.local doesn't work on 16.04 anymore?
[14:27] <darlan> hello brothers
[14:27] <angrycoast> heyo
[14:27] <ducasse> baudster: it should
[14:27] <totonne98> hey bro
[14:27] <baudster> ducasse: looks like it doesnt
[14:27] <tarzeau> how much is kubuntu bound to ubuntu or canonical?
[14:28] <OerHeks> tarzeau, 100%. why?
[14:28] <ducasse> baudster: does 'systemctl status rc.local' say 'active (exited)'?
[14:28] <tarzeau> OerHeks: as in it's an official derivative of Ubuntu. well i was wondering if ubuntu/canonical has plans to create a GNUstep derivative, and official one
[14:29] <tarzeau> OerHeks: because i just picked up livecd.gnustep.org where i left it a few years ago, and built the sid packages of gnustep including updated packages for ubuntu 16.04
[14:29] <tarzeau> OerHeks: the plan being also adding emacs.app (the --with-ns port) officially into debian, and waiting/hoping for swift 3.0
[14:30] <ducasse> tarzeau: the community would do that afaik, but very few use gnustep these days (unfortunately).
[14:30] <tarzeau> so the question is, should i just do it as always, or try to find people at canonical/ubuntu to work on something official
[14:30] <tarzeau> ducasse: the community being, who?
[14:30] <ducasse> tarzeau: in this case, you :)
[14:30] <tarzeau> ducasse: i don't care how many use it. i do :) - the only thing that counts
[14:32] <tarzeau> ducasse: do you have stats or numbers aside popularity contest on the amount of gnustep users? and why do you think that's unfortunately?
[14:32] <baudster> ducasse: http://pastebin.com/Jb7Dx3f3
[14:32] <jamie_1> ducasse: its whatever, im probably just gonna use the guest wifi so i dont have to worry about it... to start with just to get my college to allow linux on network i had to scream and holler.. so this is just a little bit agrevating
[14:33] <ducasse> tarzeau: unfortunate because i absolutely love anything that's at all related to ns/os :)
[14:33] <tarzeau> ducasse: did you ever use, the real thing? :)
[14:34] <tarzeau> ducasse: not many people know anything about it - i'm surprised you're familiar with it
[14:34] <ducasse> tarzeau: i used to own a nextstation turbo colour, always regret i sold it. beautiful stuff.
[14:35] <tarzeau> ducasse: +1 :) i've run it on SUN sparc, and x86
[14:37] <ducasse> tarzeau: i think a few still use wmaker, but few use the full gnustep stack afaik. i don't have numbers, just based on people i talk to.
[14:40] <expz> Hello
[14:40] <ducasse> baudster: i don't have /etc/systemd/system/rc-local.service at all, check that, there's an error on line 11
[14:40] <generic> I have two nm-applets in my panel how can i kick one ?
[14:40] <effectnet> would it be hard to switch my swap from my hdd to my ssd?
[14:40] <tarzeau> ducasse: wmaker is just an X window manager. gnustep is cocoa (well almost)
[14:40] <generic> effectnet: use dd if=hdd of=ssd
[14:41] <tarzeau> ducasse: like gorm.app being almost xcode :)
[14:41] <effectnet> thx, ok i will look into that
[14:41] <generic> effectnet: make sure it's not the other way round ..
[14:41] <ducasse> tarzeau: i know, but a lot of the wmaker folks use/used/have used gnustep too, at least among those i know
[14:42] <Floach_> windowmaker gives me warm fuzzies
[14:42] <ashardalon> ubuntu 16.04 will not hibernate. I use the feature a lot when dual booting. How do I fix this? I run sudo systemctl hibernate and I just get a black screen. how do I fix this? get logs? thankyou very much
[14:42] <ashardalon> black screen, but PC stays on and you need to do a hard reset
[14:43] <chindy> My Texlive installations binaries are not in the standard bin folders and therefore cannot be executed by sudo ... anyone know a way around not having to create a symlink to every single binary?
[14:44] <generic> cindy: export $path ?
[14:44] <OerHeks> chindy, how did you install texlive?
[14:44] <chindy> myself(not with apt-get)
[14:44] <chindy> OerHeks,
[14:45] <chindy> OerHeks, coned the repo, and used the installer
[14:45] <generic> chindy: export PATH=$PATH:/newpath
[14:47] <OerHeks> stable version is in our repos ..
[14:47] <gk__> wikihow
[14:50] <ashardalon> anyone know anything about enabling hibernation in ubuntu 16.04?
[14:50] <ashardalon> I only have suspend
[14:52] <ducasse> ashardalon: http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation?noredirect=1&lq=1 might help
[14:52] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[14:54] <chindy> OerHeks, put that export path in bashrc ?
[14:54] <ashardalon> OerHeks: I was looking at that but unfortunately I can only get as far as running sudo pm-hibernate. I just get a black screen and a freeze upon running it. PC doesn't turn off.
[14:55] <ashardalon> just wondering if there's anywhere I can find a log of what's causing the problem
[14:55] <OerHeks> chindy, yes.
[14:55] <OerHeks> ashardalon, 'If hibernate doesn't work, check if your swap partition is at least as large as your available RAM.' ??
[14:56] <chindy> OerHeks, did that already did not work though
[14:56] <chindy> sudo tlmgr -> command not found
[15:02] <ashardalon> OerHeks: good suggestion, I'll expand it. Swap is larger than RAM but only by a few MB, I'll give it a bit more swap
[15:07] <xCoLoNeLx> hey
[15:08] <SchrodingersScat> xCoLoNeLx: oh hey
[15:11] <mikeymop> hey guys. I noticed xubuntu isn't using systemd
[15:12] <SchrodingersScat> it isn't? I thought I was in xubuntu and it was using it
[15:12] <mikeymop> odd, I had xenial on a usb. Put it on my friends computer, installed open-ssh service
[15:12] <mikeymop> and I couldn't start it with systemctl start sshd.service
[15:13] <mikeymop> it would say 'systemd is not installed'
[15:13] <mikeymop> but if I did systemctl status it worked fine
[15:14] <mikeymop> I tried the upstart commands and those didn't work either
[15:14] <SchrodingersScat> mikeymop: 'sudo systemctl restart sshd.service' works on mine
[15:15] <OerHeks> systemctl enable sshd.service first perhaps?
[15:17] <mikeymop> did i really over look enabling it first?
[15:17] <mikeymop> shit i feel dumb, I think i tried that though
[15:17] <mikeymop> I'll check again, would the package name be diff in xubuntu? i still installed the openssh-server pkg
[15:18] <mikeymop> ie. would i have to enable open-ssh.service instead of sshd?
[15:18] <SchrodingersScat> mikeymop: afaik since sshd.service worked on mine, i would think sshd.service should be the ticket, but idk
[15:26] <Aelius> hey all, I'm trying out the ubuntu layer in Windows 10, and I'm not an ubuntu person so I don't know if this can be fixed
[15:26] <Aelius> but trusty is just too ancient to be useful
[15:26] <Aelius> Can I switch to a newer repo somehow?
[15:27] <Jordan_U> !ubuwin | Aelius
[15:27] <Aelius> preferably the one that stays up to date
[15:27] <SchrodingersScat> probably wouldn't recommend it
[15:27] <nacc> Aelius: trusty is still maintained ('stay[ing] up to date')
[15:28] <Aelius> mosh, dvtm, pass, and some other programs are out of date on trusty. abduco doesnt exist in the repo
[15:28] <Aelius> my entire workflow is too new for trusty
[15:29] <SchrodingersScat> he directed you to where the support is, #ubuntu-on-windows, they know more about it
[15:29] <fione> hello
[15:30] <njumdl2014> I have a notebook with Intel Wireless 8260. And I want to install Ubuntu 16.04. However, I can't use wifi now.
[15:33] <faekjarz> Hi there! I want to test a 6Gbps eSATA link for stability, and look for CRC errors in system log. This requires to read about 10 Tera Byte of data off of an SSD. I know that writing wears out its memory cells. But what about reading? (It's MLC, if that matters.)
[15:34] <genii> faekjarz: That's more a question for ##hardware
[15:34] <faekjarz> genii: ahh, there's a hardware channel. thanks for hinting :D
[15:40] <jaimemorillo> hi
[15:40] <LemonJuice_> hola
[15:41] <fione> hi
[15:42] <shredding> i'm investigating an attack on a legacy server and it has some strange urls in the access log.
[15:42] <shredding> such as showthread.php?10553-Kettens\xC3\x83\xC6\x92\xC3\x86\xE2\x80\x99\xC3\x83\xE2\x80\xA0\xC3\xA2\xE2\x82\xAC\xE2\x84\xA2\xC3\x83\xC6\x92\xC3\xA2\xE2\x82\xAC\xC2\xA0\xC3\x83\xC2\xA2\xC3\xA2\xE2\x80\x9A\xC2\xAC\xC3\xA2\xE2\x80\x9E\xC2\xA2\xC3\x83\xC6\x92\xC3\x86\xE2\x80\x99\xC3\x83\xC2\xA2\xC3\xA2\xE2\x80\x9A\xC2\xAC\xC3\x82\xC2\xA0\xC3\x83\xC6\x92\xC3\x82\xC2\xA2\xC3\x83\xC2\xA2\xC3\xA2\xE2\x82\xAC\xC5\xA1\xC3\x82\xC2\xA
[15:42] <shredding> C\xC3\x83\xC2\xA2\xC3\xA2\xE2\x82\xAC\xC5\xBE\xC3\x82\xC2\xA2\xC3\x83\xC6\x92\xC3\x86\xE2\x80\x99\xC3\x83\xE2\x80\xA0\xC3\xA2\xE2\x82\xAC\xE2\x84\xA2\xC3\x83\xC6\x92\xC3\x82\xC2\xA2\xC3\x83\xC2\xA2\xC3\xA2\xE2\x82\xAC\xC5\xA1\xC3\x82\xC2\xAC\xC3\x83\xE2\x80\xA6\xC3\x82\xC2\xA1\xC3\x83\xC6\x92\xC3\x86\xE2\x80\x99\xC3\x83\xC2\xA2\xC3\xA2\xE2\x80\x9A\xC2\xAC\xC3\x85\xC2\xA1\xC3\x83\xC6\x92\xC3\xA2\xE2\x82\xAC\xC5\xA1\xC3\x83\x
[15:42] <shredding> E2\x80\x9A\xC3\x82\xC2\xA4geschein
[15:42] <nacc> shredding: please use pastebin for such lines
[15:42] <shredding> Anyone an idea what that acuatlly is?
[15:42] <shredding> nacc: sorry, yeah
[15:44] <cscf> shredding, I don't think this is the correct channel for help with attacks
[15:45] <shredding> cscf: ok
[15:46] <ZoF> shredding: what kind of legacy server?
[15:46] <ZoF> shredding: windows box?
[15:46] <shredding> vbulletin ubuntu
[15:46] <shredding> but i think this strange url is just poorly encoded umlauts
[15:47] <shredding> the attack did the same as http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7765594/javascript-code-injected-into-site-can-you-help-me-decrypt-it
[15:48] <ducasse> shredding: this is still not the proper channel, try ##security maybe
[15:48] <shredding> yep, just answered the question
[15:48] <dali_> what is the latest kubuntu version that uses kde 4?
[15:50] <ducasse> dali_: 14.04, i think. try #kubuntu to be sure.
[15:50] <dax> dali_: 14.10. But that's EOL, so if you want KDE 4, use 14.04.
[15:52] <dali_> thank you  ducasse & dax
[15:59] <ssc_> Hi, how can I force delete a user and group? I am trying to do sudo deluser -f USER_NAME but it's not deleting
[16:01] <ssc_> It says, user is currently used by process 21812, when I kill the process, user is assigned to new process
[16:01] <egoista_> Is there a way to go from 14.04 ro 14.10? I do not want to upgrade to 16.04 becuase of AMD card issues.
[16:01] <ducasse> ssc_: what kind of process?
[16:01] <ducasse> egoista_: 14.10 is eol.
[16:01] <akik> egoista_: stay with 14.04 then
[16:02] <[gnubie]> anyone here can help me on my debootstrap issue? kindly take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/23182607/
[16:02] <[gnubie]> i am wondering why i am always failing right after extracting zlib1g package.. the next step should be the installing of core packages..
[16:02] <genii> ssc_: Sounds like you're trying to delete a user which is some reserved system name attached to a daemon
[16:05]  * pomelo 
[16:06] <[gnubie]> anyone?
[16:07] <ssc_> genii: No I am trying to delete a user which postgresql create while installation. I have purged postgres and all it's relevant packages.
[16:10] <urgent-22> hello
[16:12] <urgent-22> i made a mistake in my ubuntu after adding other linux distro in sources.list , after using apt upgrade my linux crashed and changed the name and gui , now am in usb-live ubuntu and its only says erase for new installation , is there a way to repair it ?
[16:14] <Melio> hello, i have two hard drives attached, one is intermittently failing -  I pulled power and sata cable from it to remove it and garbage it - but now my ubuntu won't boot from the harddrive i designated
[16:14] <Melio> should i just reinstall overtop and hopefor the best?
[16:15] <Melio> i'm honestly not worried about configuration
[16:15] <ssc_> genii: I don't know why -f force did not work on deluser but after killing all the processes, I was able to delete the user.
[16:15] <Melio> or drivers, or anything special, it's a new install anyhow because of the discovery of the bad harddrive i added the secondary, and booted from that to do drive testing until it finally ate itself
[16:15] <ducasse> Melio: was ubuntu using any partitions on the old drive?
[16:15] <Melio> i don't think so. it was a ubuntu install that i had first installed assuming it was a good drive
[16:16] <ducasse> Melio: maybe grub was installed on that drive.
[16:16] <Melio> i had a power outage and fired it back up and it wouldnt use the drive, boot it or anything - so i put in a second drive, disconnected it and installed 16.04.1 on it. booted fine, and continued to use it while i installed printer drives et al.
[16:16] <Melio> ducasse:  it's possible. what do you suggest. other then reinstalling completly
[16:17] <Melio> I'm willing to wipe and reinstall if nessicary, but i want to try magical drive management tools i never have before
[16:17] <urgent-22> any help please ?
[16:18] <SCHAAP137> hi urgent-22, explain your issue
[16:18] <Melio> urgent-22: `hi.
[16:18] <ducasse> Melio: well, you could try manually installing grub, if that is what is missing. i don't know that that is the problem, though.
[16:18] <Melio> whats the folder for grub i'll look
[16:18]  * [gnubie] is waiting and crossing fingers…
[16:18] <Melio> : /boot/grub?
[16:18] <nicanaca0> hey chat, weird issue with xubuntu 14.04. In the last few days my PC logs off the user when it goes into sleep mode but I've not made any changes recently apart from theming stuff. Anything obvious it could be?
[16:18] <teward> !crosspost | [gnubie]
[16:19] <nicanaca0> Also when I log back in there are the usual "system error, would you like to send report" type messages but no helpful info in them
[16:19] <urgent-22> melio hi
[16:19] <urgent-22> i made a mistake in my ubuntu after adding other linux distro in sources.list , after using apt upgrade my linux crashed and changed the name and gui , now am in usb-live ubuntu and its only says erase for new installation , is there a way to repair it ?
[16:19] <ducasse> Melio: you install it with grub-install
[16:19] <Melio> I will now
[16:19] <Melio> but /boot/grub is on this drive
[16:19] <urgent-22> melio , it boots currectly but the gui is crashed
[16:20] <ducasse> Melio: is your system uefi or legacy?
[16:20] <Melio> uefi
[16:20] <[gnubie]> teward: sorry about that..
[16:21] <urgent-22> SCHAAP137 any help ?
[16:21] <ducasse> Melio: is /boot/efi on that drive?
[16:21] <Melio> lemme check
[16:21] <Melio> no
[16:21] <ducasse> Melio: it's a separate, small partition if so.
[16:21] <Melio> ok lemme look
[16:22] <Melio> fdisk -l shows /dev/sda1       2048   1050623   1048576   512M EFI System
[16:22] <Melio> with sda2, sda3
[16:22] <ducasse> Melio: that's it, so grub should be fine.
[16:22] <Melio> which i belive is / and swap
[16:22] <ducasse> Melio: can you get to the grub menu on boot?
[16:22] <Melio> so maby grub-install on /dev/sda1
[16:23] <Melio> no
[16:23] <Melio> it gives me no valid os message
[16:23] <Melio> it has a hardtime booting the usb also
[16:23] <lapion> how do I remove zram devices ?
[16:23] <Melio> i have to pick uefi usb thumbdrive, the other won't boot
[16:23] <SCHAAP137> urgent-22: hmm, that is quite an uncommon situation; i don't know how to repair that
[16:23] <lapion> once created I cannot seem to remove them and free up the ram
[16:23] <Melio> lapion:  if you reboot do they come back?
[16:24] <SCHAAP137> reinstall would probably be fastest and least fault-sensitive
[16:24] <Melio> fstab may contain the entries if they are persistant
[16:24] <lapion> Melio, I want to remove them without rebooting
[16:24] <urgent-22> yeah , but it said erase all disk , i want my old installations and files
[16:24] <ducasse> Melio: i'm thinking - give me a sec :)
[16:24] <Melio> lapion: urgent-22 back them up first with a live boot of ubuntu to an external media
[16:25] <urgent-22> melio good idea
[16:25] <lapion> Melio, zram-swaps contain no useful data..
[16:26] <lapion> I have done swapoff however the zram-disk still takes up valuable ram..
[16:26] <ducasse> Melio: can you pastebin the output of 'sudo efibootmgr -v'?
[16:29] <xentity1x> hi
[16:29] <nipnor> how do you make a file that can run a bunch of terminal commands?
[16:29] <nipnor> what do i call that?
[16:30] <EriC^^> nipnor: a bash script
[16:30] <ducasse> nipnor: a script, just write it in a text editor
[16:30] <nipnor> i want to activate a virtualenv from just a file click
[16:30] <EriC^^> nipnor: look into .desktop files
[16:30] <nipnor> okay
[16:30] <xentity1x> Hi, is there a way to cd directory permanently after a shell script has finished? I want to make a shell script to change to the relevant directory for a project and open all the relevant files.
[16:31] <nipnor> do i have to put this crup into the file at the top of my bash script? #!/bin/bash
[16:31] <EriC^^> nipnor: yes, it's called a shebang
[16:32] <nipnor> okay
[16:32] <EriC^^> xentity1x: that's difficult, cause when you run a script it runs in a subshell, and you'd be changing the cwd for that subshell so when it exits it'll be the parent shell
[16:33] <xentity1x> eric^^, thanks so do you have any ideas on how to manage a project with a single shell command?
[16:34] <EriC^^> xentity1x: you could keep that shell running somehow, maybe add a "bash" at the end in the script
[16:34] <ducasse> xentity1x: run '/path/to/script.sh ; cd /what/ever' maybe?
[16:34] <nipnor> why does my bash script run emac24@user
[16:34] <nipnor> when i click on it
[16:34] <nipnor> why does my bash script run emac24@user
[16:35] <nacc> xentity1x: what do you mean "manage a project"?
[16:35] <EriC^> xentity1x: you could keep that shell running somehow, maybe add a "bash" at the end in the script
[16:35] <dan2wik> I'm doing an 'apt dist-upgrade' but it is stuck, what do I do?
[16:35] <Jordan_U> nipnor: Please don't repeat your questions so quickly.
[16:35] <nipnor> sorry
[16:35] <nacc> nipnor: we don't konw what's in your script ... (pastebin it)
[16:35] <Jordan_U> nipnor: Please pastebin your complete script and also pastebin the output you see when you run it.
[16:35] <nipnor> i thought eric might not be able to see it
[16:35] <nipnor> okay
[16:36] <r00t3r> hi guys
[16:36] <ducasse> nipnor: set it executable, it's probably opening as a text file
[16:36] <r00t3r> basically I have a ubuntu router
[16:36] <r00t3r> and I want to inspect traffic that comes in or out of it
[16:36] <r00t3r> in an organised manner?
[16:37] <nipnor> so my paste bin is thiss http://pastebin.com/audDAa3v
[16:37] <nipnor> i alreadty set it to an exc
[16:38] <Jordan_U> nipnor: What is /home/user/django17/source ?
[16:38] <r00t3r> help?
[16:38] <r00t3r> just a nice util for this
[16:38] <PCdude> I was wondering just a few moments back. Why is there is no app made for ubuntu touch by whatsapp?
[16:39] <lapion>  even when the devices are removed wiith systemctl the ram is still not released
[16:39] <ducasse> r00t3r: ntop, maybe?
[16:39] <Jordan_U> lapion: Did you swapoff?
[16:39] <nipnor> it is a virtualenv
[16:39] <lapion> Jordan_U, yes
[16:39] <PCdude> IMHO, ubuntu touch has been around for quite some time and whatsapp has had alot of time to do it already. but they didn't. I think they have a reason and I am curious what that could be
[16:39] <nipnor> the default application to lauch this file is GNU Emacs 24 apparently
[16:40] <Melio> ducasse: I had an important phonecall i will pastbin it in a second
[16:40] <ducasse> Melio: ok
[16:41] <cent> where is the forum?
[16:41] <Jordan_U> PCdude: That's an interesting question but it's better discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[16:41] <ducasse> !touch | PCdude or here
[16:41] <Melio> ducasse: http://pastebin.com/HQxjnpxP
[16:42] <PCdude> Jordan_U: ubottu was already thinking in what would be the best channel  :) np, I will go to those 2
[16:42] <Jordan_U> nipnor: Please pastebin the output of "file /home/user/django17/source" .
[16:42] <Melio> not sure why it segfaulted
[16:42] <ducasse> EriC^: you still here? can you look at Melio's pastebin?
[16:43] <nipnor> it runs the GNU Emacs 24 text editor
[16:43] <EriC^> ducasse: yeah
[16:43] <Melio> could it be an old ubuntu grub folder from a prior install
[16:43] <Melio> like a differnt version of ubuntu
[16:43] <Melio> I.e. not compatible cause it's dusty
[16:43] <Melio> :P
[16:43] <nipnor> ive already sudo chmod +x <file> ...
[16:44] <ducasse> Melio: this is Not Good... thinking..
[16:44] <Melio> take your time
[16:44] <Melio> if i wipe it, reinstall it. it's no biggie. option x is available
[16:44] <nipnor> and ive also sudo chmod +755 <file> alswell ...
[16:44] <Melio> try sudo chmod a+x file
[16:44] <ducasse> Melio: windows is not installed now?
[16:44] <EriC^> ducasse: Melio efibootmgr segfault.. never seen that before
[16:44] <nipnor> okay
[16:45] <EriC^> ducasse: Melio what's the main problem?
[16:45] <nipnor> nope same thing
[16:45] <Melio> can't boot the drive
[16:45] <nipnor> runs emacs
[16:45] <Melio> i had a second drive running that i booted with this drive previously. i don't think i booted from it
[16:45] <Melio> because it crashed and didnt boot like this one does
[16:45] <ducasse> EriC^: Melio i'm thinking just delete the windows entry if windows is not installed
[16:46] <Melio> had a powerfail
[16:46] <xentity1x> exit
[16:46] <Melio> Ducasse, i can wipe the whole drive
[16:46] <Melio> not interested in windows at this time without virtualizing
[16:46] <Melio> dual boot isnt nessicary
[16:46] <cent> 我
[16:46] <ducasse> Melio: you still need to get rid of that entry, it's in the firmware.
[16:46] <Melio> ok how?
[16:47] <EriC^> Melio: ducasse maybe the efi data got corrupted?
[16:47] <EriC^> on the bad poweroff?
[16:48] <ducasse> Melio: 'sudo efibootmgr -B 0000' should do it.
[16:48] <Melio> possibly
[16:48] <Melio> that would make sense
[16:48] <Melio> btw i don't have windows on this box
[16:48] <Melio> my fdisk -l (sudoed) doesnt list anything but 3 partitions, efi, / and swap
[16:48] <Melio> lemme try that ducasse
[16:48] <EriC^> Melio: deleting the hdd won't do anything in this case, it's the bios firmware which needs reinstalling
[16:48] <ducasse> EriC^: let's try deleting that entry first
[16:48] <Melio> ok how do i wipe that and give it proper entries
[16:49] <Melio> sudo efibootmgr -B 0000
[16:49] <Melio> will do. i'll paste output if it's strange
[16:49] <EriC^> you could try putting ubuntu's efi file in the default fallback place for efi files (/efi/boot/bootx64.efi and /efi/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi) in case you can't reflash the bios
[16:49] <EriC^> ducasse: sure
[16:49] <ducasse> Melio: try 'sudo efibootmgr -v' afterwards to see if the weird entry is gone.
[16:50] <Melio> http://pastebin.com/jSF292mF
[16:50] <Melio> that's the result, i believe -b was the correct switch
[16:50] <Jordan_U> nipnor: Please pastebin the output of "file /home/user/django17/source" .
[16:51] <EriC^> Melio: does sudo efibootmgr -v still segfault?
[16:51] <Melio> yes
[16:51] <smallJIE> o
[16:51] <ducasse> Melio: -b is modify, -B is delete
[16:51] <Melio> it didnt let me -B
[16:51] <Melio> lemme show you output of that
[16:52] <Melio> http://pastebin.com/6Lc7U1QK
[16:52] <EriC^> Melio: the syntax is sudo efibootmgr -B -b <hexhere>
[16:53] <smallJIE> What the hell is this
[16:53] <EriC^> it looks like it segfaults when it's trying to retrieve the 0008 entry (the hdd one)
[16:53] <Melio> Eric^ i pasted : http://pastebin.com/GM6HTpNG
[16:53] <Archvile> hi all
[16:53] <Archvile> Why cant I find screensaver setting in Ubuntu?
[16:53] <Archvile> err..let me rephrase: where are the screensaver setting in Ubuntu?
[16:54] <EriC^> Melio: try putting ubuntu's entry first
[16:54] <Archvile> settings*
[16:54] <EriC^> Melio: sudo efibootmgr -o 0001,000C,0007,0009,000A,000B,0000,0008
[16:54] <smallJIE> what are talking about
[16:54] <EriC^> Melio: maybe that will fix the booting but still might segfault when listing
[16:54] <OerHeks> Archvile, there is no screensaver standard, just a energy timer to turn off screen
[16:55] <Archvile> gah, ok..
[16:55] <OerHeks> smallJIE, time to read the topic
[16:55] <Melio> smallJIE fixing UEFI problems for bootablilty
[16:55] <akik> smallJIE: how did you join this channel if you don't know what it is?
[16:56] <Archvile> OerHeks, well, i did download Electric Sheep screensaver (i heavily recommend it!). So i added a PPA (whatever that thing is) and did apt-get install electricsheep..but what next? Id never appears
[16:56] <Melio> http://pastebin.com/QSXusWR0
[16:56] <smallJIE> just see irc this thing,and then follow the tutorial in
[16:56] <OerHeks> Archvile, i don't support ppa's. a lot of us in this channel don't ..
[16:56] <Melio> EriC^ I removed 0000 because it errored on that
[16:56] <Archvile> what are PPA:s? Some kind of application sources?
[16:57] <Melio> lemme try listing it now
[16:57] <OerHeks> Archvile, " So i added a PPA (whatever that thing is)"
[16:57] <Vacuum_> Hi, I have two problems. When I close laptop lid or go to sleep, I do not get any display or resume. when I plug the data cable of lcd in my laptop e5430 latitude, the lcd says 'going to sleep' and I do not get any display. I am using kubuntu 16.04.01. WHat can be wrong?
[16:57] <OerHeks> !ppa
[16:57] <smallJIE> melio smallJIE fixing UEFI problems for bootablilty?  what is this
[16:57] <Melio> smallJIE: you asked what is going on.
[16:57] <smallJIE> don't understatnd
[16:57] <Archvile> OerHeks, ok so you dont trust them as sources..
[16:57] <Melio> smallJIE: it' not a matter of you understanding it. :P
[16:58] <Melio> it's a matter of that's what's going on
[16:58] <ducasse> smallJIE: this is ubuntu technical support
[16:58] <EriC^> Melio: i just noticed something, most of the entries don't have a "*" after them, that means they're disabled and aren't active
[16:58] <yungBLUD> Hello, can anyone help. My computer seems to run fsck at startup and makes the boot time long. I don't know if it fully runs it as it doesn't seem to progress but says /dev/sda: clean, 264198/29982720 files, 12874838/119902720 blocks
[16:58] <OerHeks> Archvile, no, but we cannot do anything about issues with it. contact the maintainer?
[16:58] <EriC^> Melio: try sudo efibootmgr -a -b 0001
[16:58] <EriC^> to make the ubuntu one active
[16:58] <Melio> EriC^ i wondered what * means, does it mean active or disabled/inactive
[16:58] <smallJIE> Oh  I see
[16:58] <EriC^> Melio: yeah, * means active
[16:59] <Melio> can i make the no-efi innostore deleted
[16:59] <Melio> because it won't boot on that .
[16:59] <Vacuum_> anyone?
[16:59] <Archvile> OerHeks, well anyway I added the PPA and after that did the apt-get install electricsheep, but where do I now find the executable? Nothing appears when i type electricsheep in the launcher
[16:59] <Melio> it shows disabled, but i want to remove it
[16:59] <Melio> just to see if it comes back
[16:59] <Archvile> i find it surprising how weird installing applications is in linux..
[17:00] <OerHeks> Archvile, there is no manual for it?
[17:00] <Melio> (it's my live-usb drive, without efi)
[17:00] <smallJIE> my ubuntu system out of the question , i can come here to ask the question is it?
[17:00] <Melio> Archvile: installing applications on ubuntu isnt much differnt from any other linux distro
[17:00] <Jordan_U> yungBLUD: Please pastebin the output of "systemd-analyze blame".
[17:00] <OerHeks> Archvile, wait, you added a PPA, which is not our business really
[17:00] <Melio> Archvile: do you mean based on like how windows applications are installed?
[17:00] <ducasse> Melio: just leave it for now, so we don't create a new problem ;)
[17:01] <win32> Hi here. any help ! why my terminal it's all black!
[17:01] <Melio> ducasse: ok i'm going to reboot to see if it spins up
[17:01] <Melio> Ducasse I will be back
[17:01] <Archvile> Melio, well, yeah..and anroid and Ios
[17:01] <Archvile> OerHeks, no linux beginner friendly manual, only this: http://www.electricsheep.org/node/51
[17:01] <Archvile> "The new best way is through this PPA made from this github. thank you Ichthyo!"
[17:02] <OerHeks> Archvile, did you add this?? ppa:flam3/ppa >>   https://launchpad.net/~flam3/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[17:02] <yungBLUD> Jordan_U Hi Jordan, http://pastebin.com/AgjCXbrf
[17:02] <smallJIE> get ready for sleep . you continue
[17:02] <Archvile> and installing from source, that seems like you need an engineering degree to do it so i wont touch that..
[17:03]  * Vacuum_ waits
[17:03] <secretaire> hello
[17:03] <OerHeks> Archvile, funny thing is you "heavily recommend it!"  lolx
[17:03] <Archvile> OerHeks, no i added this: https://launchpad.net/~ichthyo/+archive/ubuntu/zeug
[17:04] <Archvile> OerHeks, well i use it on windows and installing is a walk in the park ther
[17:04] <Archvile> e
[17:04] <secretaire> trying to install hplip-gui on lubuntu 16.04 i got a bad dependency on hplip-gui and now paquet is broken and i cant change any paquet anymore
[17:04] <Archvile> now im just trying out ubuntu on my old laptop
[17:05] <secretaire> Issue is cannot get "http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-5.7/libmysqlclient20_5.7.13-0ubuntu0.16.04.2_amd64.deb"
[17:05] <secretaire> (404 not found)
[17:05] <secretaire> how can i get that .deb or get rid of the mess it created ?
[17:06] <ducasse> secretaire: try 'sudo apt update ; sudo apt install -f'
[17:07] <OerHeks> secretaire, seens like a wrong filename with 16.04.2 in it ... http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/libmysqlclient20
[17:08] <secretaire> synaptics did that, how can he be wrong ? synaptis has installed a lot of part of the required packages now and now the end of the install process is blocked because of that mistake
[17:08] <secretaire> how can i revert to previous clean state ?
[17:08] <OerHeks> secretaire, depends where you got that hplip-gui  .. manual download ??
[17:08] <ducasse> secretaire: did you try what i suggested?
[17:08] <secretaire> coz now, it refuses to uninstall packages as long as some is broken
[17:09] <MMan> Hello there, i have a latest iso installed on usb stick and i need to download latest updates for it, offline! i got 16.04 lts x86 iso! (i need 16.04.2 ) amu suggestions will be welcome! Thank you in advance!
[17:09] <secretaire> no, official default repo via synaptics, no ppa, no manual install
[17:09] <OerHeks> ducasse +1 without proper update, seaching can be endlesly
[17:10] <secretaire> ducasse, you mean "sudo apt-get install "http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-5.7/libmysqlclient20_5.7.13-0ubuntu0.16.04.2_amd64.deb" ?
[17:10] <ducasse> secretaire: one more time; try 'sudo apt update ; sudo apt install -f'
[17:10] <secretaire> ok, just what you wrote without any more argument
[17:10] <Archvile> ok so i did dpkg -L electricsheep and it shows that stuff should be in usr/bin/ folder, but when I open it theres nothing there?
[17:10] <Archvile> like the files are hidden or something =)
[17:11] <ioria> !info libmysqlclient20
[17:12] <secretaire> done ! it seems command line managed it
[17:13] <Archvile> why are the files not visible in the explorer? (or whatever that file manager thingy is called in ubuntu)
[17:13] <ducasse> secretaire: good. if you got no errors you should be fine now.
[17:13] <mcphail> Archvile: PPAs are unsupported here. The only support you'll find is from whoever made the PPA. Ubuntu hasn't used screensavers for ages
[17:13] <Melio> ducasse: EriC^ : it booted as expected. thanks
[17:13] <Melio> anything else to clear this up nessicary, it's it going to persist?
[17:13] <ducasse> Melio: \o/ :)
[17:13] <Archvile> my question is not even related to ppa
[17:13] <Melio> i'm glad too. reinstalling this would be suckfest
[17:13] <Vacuum_> Hi, I have two problems. When I close laptop lid or go to sleep, I do not get any display or resume. when I plug the data cable of lcd in my laptop e5430 latitude, the lcd says 'going to sleep' and I do not get any display. I am using kubuntu 16.04.01. WHat can be wrong?
[17:14] <ducasse> Melio: i think you should be fine now.
[17:14] <Melio> cool. what summary causes would do this?
[17:14] <mcphail> Archvile: it looks as if you have installed a package from a PPA and can't get it to run. Have I read something incorrectly?
[17:14] <yungBLUD> Hello, can anyone help. My computer seems to run fsck at startup and makes the boot time long. I don't know if it fully runs it as it doesn't seem to progress but says /dev/sda: clean, 264198/29982720 files, 12874838/119902720 blocks
[17:14] <ducasse> Melio: could be the powerfail, hard to say for certain.
[17:14] <Melio> i want to test a bunch of harddrives i have to extract files that i have backed up on them from years of machines and systems i pulled drives from
[17:15] <Melio> could doing this result in efi entries screwing up my system?
[17:15] <Melio> if so, what's a good way to isolate my test drives
[17:15] <Archvile> mcphail, yeah, im asking why i cannot see files in the File Explorer (or whatever its called) thar are supposed to be there by doing dpkg -L <packagename>
[17:15] <ducasse> Melio: most likely not. i would get a usb->sata adapter and plug them in to that.
[17:16] <Melio> oh so booting primary and connecting usb won't touch efi table
[17:16] <Melio> or whatever it's called
[17:16] <ducasse> Melio: no, it won't.
[17:16] <Melio> (hates efi) it seems like an unnecessary system
[17:16]  * ducasse actually likes uefi
[17:16] <Melio> now that you can control it :P
[17:17] <ducasse> Melio: good point :)
[17:17] <mcphail> Archvile: packaging is a dark art, and is influenced by what binaries are in the deb file, and what postinstall scripts are run. We can't help you with your issue with this package. In general, if you "apt-get download packagename" you can click on the downloaded deb to see the directory structure, with the caveats above
[17:17] <Melio> once i learn uefi, i won't have an issue
[17:17] <Melio> that i can't solve i mean
[17:17]  * Melio starts a notebook on uefi linux resolution and knowledge
[17:17] <ducasse> Melio: but those usb/sata thingys are great, you don't need to power down to connect a drive.
[17:17] <Melio> ordering one now :)
[17:17] <Melio> can you boot of them?
[17:18] <Melio> like a usb drive
[17:18] <Archvile> mcphail, ok thanks..
[17:18] <Archvile> i think ill try Linux Mint next
[17:18] <ducasse> Melio: the arch wiki has some excellent articles on uefi and grub.. yes, you can boot them.
[17:18] <mcphail> Archvile: you may have to right-click and get Archive Manager to open it
[17:18] <Melio> nice. worth a penny or so
[17:18] <Melio> thanks Duc
[17:18] <Melio> ducasse:
[17:18] <MMan> uefi is a new technology based in aged technology who actualy providing software scripters with better access to bios settings, and not only! (Anyone to help here ? )
[17:19] <MMan> am i ignored or what ?
[17:19] <ducasse> Melio: i really recommend those articles, got much of my uefi knowledge from them + experiments :)
[17:19] <Jordan_U> yungBLUD: Interesting. I don't see systemd-fsck listed there at all.
[17:20] <Eli-5dce> why you guys no like legacy :(
[17:20] <Melio> MMan: what's your question?
[17:20] <Melio> Eli-5dce: it's not about like, it's about availability no more
[17:20] <Melio> everyone likes 69 GTO's, you just can't find them
[17:20] <MMan> @Melio i have 16.04 iso and i need offline 16.04.2 updates for my usb stick where do i get them ?
[17:20] <Eli-5dce> melio : ohhhh that makes a lot more sense
[17:21] <secretaire> yep ducasse, thanks a lot
[17:21] <Jordan_U> Eli-5dce: What specific problem would you like help solving?
[17:21] <Melio> MMan: i have never done offline updates
[17:21] <OerHeks> MMan, 16.04.2 ? that is not even out yet
[17:21] <Melio> MMan: it might be possible to pull the updates but not install them, look at the list of updates and archive them into a tar
[17:21] <Melio> then copy that
[17:22] <secretaire> now fighting with a printer install - printer is recent and seems unknown on lubuntu 16.04 - but it is known on ubutnu 14.04 ! thats why hplip might help
[17:22] <Melio> i'm just not sure how to do that without building a script or osmething
[17:22] <Jordan_U> yungBLUD: Usually if you get output like that it means that fsck just checked quickly that it wasn't dirty and then exited, which should take almost no time.
[17:22] <Eli-5dce> Jordan_U : No problem at the moment. When I'm on I'll ask or I'll be happy to help! :)
[17:23] <Jordan_U> Eli-5dce: OK. Please keep discussion in this channel to support questions and answers in the future.
[17:23] <MMan> i found this cmd line,, will it work without activating the unsupported updates ? >>apt-offline get --bundle /download/path/aptbundle.zip /path/to/apt.sig
[17:23] <Melio> Mman There are no offline upgrade options for Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server. Please ensure you have network connectivity to one of the official mirrors or to a locally accessible mirror and follow the instructions above.
[17:23] <Melio> so you would have to figure out a way or look for a way already addressed to do this
[17:23] <Eli-5dce> Jordan_U : Oh ok, I never really noticed that before. I will go now. Bye! (Sugar)
[17:24] <Melio> Mman : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[17:24] <yungBLUD> Jordan_U: it's not really long but at least 20s which is just a bit annoying and seems to do it every boot. FYI I do have Win 10 on another partition if that could cause any issues?
[17:24] <Melio> I usually look at release notes for things like that to make sure it's possible or not
[17:24] <Archvile> folders starting with a dot are hidden, yes?
[17:24] <MMan> @Melio, thank you i will manually download them from closest mirror and do the trick!
[17:24] <Jordan_U> yungBLUD: Did it do it this boot?
[17:24] <yungBLUD> Jordan_U: yes
[17:25] <Melio> MMan, if you do. document the steps :)
[17:25] <Melio> MMan, those kinda of things are great to blog about so we can find them on google
[17:25] <Melio> and to help others
[17:25] <Melio> I remember dual booting was like a brand new thing no one knew how to do
[17:25] <ducasse> MMan: synaptic can also generate download scripts
[17:25] <Vacuum_> I have two problems. When I close laptop lid or go to sleep, I do not get any display or resume. when I plug the
[17:25] <Vacuum_>                  data cable of lcd in my laptop e5430 latitude, the lcd says 'going to sleep' and I do not get any display. I am using
[17:25] <Vacuum_>                  kubuntu 16.04.01. WHat can be wrong?
[17:26] <Melio> Vacuum_: sleep might not be compatiable with your kernel
[17:26] <Melio> Vacuum_: try disabling sleep in linux
[17:26] <yungBLUD> Jordan_U: When i had a look on google some people suggested looking at /etc/fstab and changing any 1s or 2s at the end to 0s which i also did but no change
[17:26] <Melio> which means you have option A) and Option B A) is shut down and power off, and B) is simply reboot
[17:26] <Melio> A )
[17:26] <Vacuum_> Melio: sleep is a good feature though. any solution? wht about external lcd?
[17:27] <MMan> Thanks for all informations, ( MM does not use dual booting for ages. MM will create a new boot system with images to mount and work )
[17:27] <Vacuum_> Melio:  C) hibernate
[17:27] <Melio> Vacuum_: until you find a solution, disable it - find a solution and if there is none. this is the solution.
[17:27] <Melio> Vacuum_: hybernation is sleep
[17:27] <Vacuum_> Melio:  hm what about external lcd?
[17:27] <ducasse> Vacuum_: i'm guessing you have an acpi problem that prevents resume, not sure about display.
[17:27] <Melio> Vacuum_: Vacuum_ if the sleep mode is disabled it'll boot and recover like a normal reboot or shutdown restart
[17:28] <Melio> Vacuum_: i always elimitate the function if it has issues like that
[17:28] <Vacuum_> ducasse:  Melio  ok.
[17:28] <Vacuum_> ducasse:  any solution?
[17:28] <Melio> Vacuum_: disable it. solution :)
[17:28] <Vacuum_> Melio:  hm
[17:29] <Melio> Vacuum_: then monitor forums that talk about this problem until someone suggests a tool or utility to fix it
[17:29] <Vacuum_> ducasse:  Melio  external lcd is something that we cannot live with
[17:29] <Melio> Vacuum_: no disable SLEEP first. to see if it fixes it
[17:29] <Vacuum_> Melio:  how to disable sleep?
[17:29] <MMan> So i was right when i was say few years ago that X system will be the future eh? Glad to see it live :)
[17:29] <Melio> Vacuum_: in the bios power saving
[17:29] <ducasse> Vacuum_: read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI
[17:29] <Vacuum_> Melio:  ok, sleep can be disabled from bios only?
[17:32] <WebDrake> Hello folks -- ran into a nasty issue with Ubuntu 16.04 as of this morning
[17:32] <irishman2020> looking for an article that breaks down the differences between windows cpu % calculation and linux cpu % calculation. anyone know of one?
[17:32] <WebDrake> I think related to unity updates installed last night (but probably only taking effect this morning when I restarted my computer)
[17:33] <WebDrake> Thought I'd raise it here before going to launchpad etc., just to confirm if anyone else has it or knows what's up
[17:33] <WebDrake> I'm running 16.04 on a Thinkpad T420 which I plug into a monitor, and I have a USB mouse/keyboard pair
[17:34] <Vacuum_> Melio:  ducasse  sleep disable did not helped the external lcd
[17:34] <WebDrake> As of this morning, when the USB mouse is turned on, it fails to interact with many shell elements (while being able to interact with elements of the focused window)
[17:34] <WebDrake> Doesn't matter whether I use mouse or touchpad -- but if I turn the USB mouse off, the touchpad works fine
[17:34] <ducasse> Vacuum_: is there a keyboard shortcut on your laptop to enable/disable external screen?
[17:35] <WebDrake> Anyone have any idea what's up?  As I say, would seem to be related in some way to the recent unity updates
[17:35] <Vacuum_> ducasse:  no I guess
[17:36] <xissburg> So I can't update git to 2.x
[17:36] <ducasse> Vacuum_: is there a function key with a screen icon?
[17:36] <MMan> It is a very strange thing that the ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-i386.iso file that i have installed on my usb stick to but and try ubuntu got 200+mb updates !
[17:36] <Melio> did you make it persistant?
[17:36] <xissburg> I tried this stuff but git --version still returns 1.7.9.5 http://askubuntu.com/questions/571549/git-1-7-9-5-upgrade-to-current-release-of-git-2-x-on-ubuntu-12-04
[17:36] <MMan> nope still in try mode
[17:36] <Melio> MMan: persistance I think is limited to a casper 4gig
[17:36] <kakuzuID> hello everybody
[17:36] <kakuzuID> 3
[17:36] <kakuzuID> 3
[17:36] <kakuzuID> 3
[17:36] <kakuzuID> 33
[17:36] <Melio> even if you have a 32gig. but i think you can make a partition
[17:36] <kakuzuID> 3
[17:36] <Melio> kak knock it off
[17:37] <Phryq> etcher isn't installing. I had it installed before, and just downloaded the update, and double-clicked the update as an "executable", now it opens, but does nothing except ask my password when I try to flash the USB
[17:37] <xissburg> sucks when people tell you something should work but it doesn't -___________-
[17:37] <Melio> ok this all works i need to get back to doing work, thanks for help everyone
[17:38] <ducasse> Phryq: what is etcher?
[17:38] <irishman2020> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/etcher-usb-image-burner-tool-linux-open-source
[17:38] <Phryq> it's a program for writing an OS onto a USB
[17:39] <irishman2020> I use unetbootin
[17:39] <irishman2020> Not sure why etcher is failing
[17:39] <irishman2020> try running it in terminal and see if there is any output
[17:39] <ducasse> Phryq: no idea, sorry. i just use dd.
[17:39] <xissburg> there's a git somewhere else. sudo apt-get remove git does not remove git
[17:39] <irishman2020> with "sudo etcher"
[17:40] <irishman2020> the last 5 messages were @phryq
[17:40] <nacc> xissburg: you can't install git 2.x with support (here) on 12.04
[17:41] <nacc> xissburg: using a ppa requires you to consult the ppa's owners for support
[17:41] <xissburg> ugh I should upgrade my VPS.. it's been a long time I didn't touch it
[17:41] <MMan> Terminal information : ( apt-offline get --bundle /download/path/aptbundle.zip /path/to/apt.sig The program 'apt-offline' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt install apt-offline You will have to enable the component called 'universe' )
[17:41] <nacc> xissburg: you can look at what `which git` says as where the executable is coming from
[17:41] <xissburg>  /usr/local/bin/git
[17:41] <nacc> xissburg: looks like you compiled git from source
[17:42] <xissburg> lol I don't remember ever doing it ^^
[17:42] <Vacuum_> ducasse: http://s903.photobucket.com/user/wintersweet220/media/laptopkeyboard/NP019K-S.jpg.html
[17:42] <nacc> xissburg: hard to say otherwise where it came from, I guess it's possible a non-official package could have installed to /usr/local, but it shouldn't have
[17:43] <nacc> MMan: why is that surprising?
[17:44] <xissburg> hmhm
[17:44] <nacc> MMan: 16.04.1 was a specific release of Ubuntu, at a specific point in time, a few months ago now
[17:44] <ducasse> Vacuum_: try Fn + F5
[17:45] <Vacuum_> I did. no use ducasse
[17:45] <MMan> @nacc where do i read those so called special characteristics of this update ?
[17:45] <ducasse> Vacuum_: can you pastebin output of 'xrandr'?
[17:46] <OerHeks> mamaeu = akise = tavs namespammer ;-)
[17:46] <MMan> @nacc is by term specific release meant that should not be used by end users ?
[17:47] <nacc> MMan: @ is not necessary on irc, and means users don't get highlighted when you're addressing them
[17:47] <nacc> MMan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/16.04.1
[17:48] <olscumpy> how do you get an alias to be permanent? yesterday I did alias upall="sudo apt update && apt upgrade && apt autoremove && apt autoclean" , but the alias doesn't work today
[17:48] <MMan> Sorry for using that at symbol,, thanks for the link! was just suprised to see 16.04.1 to get 200mb+ updates!!!
[17:48] <nacc> MMan: no, it means that 16.04.1 corresponds to xenial on on 21/7/16 or so (http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04.1/). So there oare of course updates since then
[17:49] <nacc> MMan: again, that's not surprising at all, 16.04.1 is several months old (if you used the release iso)
[17:49] <OerHeks> MMan, useless to update a live iso.
[17:50] <MMan> I am sorry i had no idea that ubuntu updates are working same as windows, every day some updates, now i know!
[17:50] <OerHeks> it will be gone when you reboot
[17:50] <nacc> MMan: if you used the daily iso http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xenial/daily-live/current/, you'd get closer to no updates on boot
[17:50] <MMan> That is very helpfull to know too, thanks once again :)
[17:50] <ducasse> olscumpy: add it to ~/.bash_aliases, which should be sourced by the default ~/.bashrc
[17:52] <olscumpy> cool, thanks. same text without the initial "alias" word?
[17:52] <Vacuum_> ducasse: Failed to get gamma.. Screen 0: minimum 1366 x 768, current 1366 x 768, maximum 1366 x 768
[17:52] <Vacuum_> default connected primary 1366x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm    1366x768      76.00*
[17:54] <ducasse> Vacuum_: what kind of gpu do you have?
[17:54] <Vacuum_> ducasse:  how to know?
[17:55] <Vacuum_> ducasse:  http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/latit/dell_latitude_e5430_spec_sheet.pdf
[17:55] <ducasse> Vacuum_: try 'lspci -k | nc termbin.com 9999' and post the link here.
[17:56] <pavlos> Vacuum_, sudo lshw -C display
[17:56] <Vacuum_> ducasse: http://termbin.com/mmq6
[17:58] <Vacuum_> pavlos: http://termbin.com/qzv2
[18:00] <Vacuum_> pavlos:  ducasse what seems to be wrong?
[18:01] <ducasse> Vacuum_: so, intel gpu. doesn't look like xrandr can see the external display port, not sure why...
[18:02] <ducasse> Vacuum_: have you tried Fn+F8?
[18:03] <xissburg> should I upgrade from 12.04 LTS directly to 16.04?
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> xissburg  i guess you'd have to go via 14.04
[18:04] <xissburg> hmm 2 upgrades
[18:04] <Vacuum_> ducasse:  yes. no use.
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> !ltsupgrade
[18:04] <ducasse> Vacuum_: ok, i've got no other ideas, sorry.
[18:05] <pavlos> Vacuum_, the specs of your laptop show intel graphics HD3000/4000 Have you install the drivers from intel?
[18:08] <Vacuum_> pavlos:  I am on kubuntu. What package do I need?
[18:09] <Vacuum_> pavlos:  ducasse  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel ?
[18:11] <ducasse> Vacuum_: should be installed by default.
[18:12] <ducasse> Vacuum_: i assume you have updated recently?
[18:12] <pavlos> Vacuum_, I suggest you go to the intel site and d/l the video drivers from there https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/80939/Graphics-Drivers
[18:14] <MMan_> bb all gtg it was nice chating... take care!
[18:14] <ducasse> pavlos, Vacuum_: i have _never_ heard of anyone having to do that, intel drivers ship with the system.
[18:15] <Vacuum_> ducasse:  updated
[18:15] <akik> the latest linux driver from intel is from 2011 ?
[18:15] <Vacuum_> pavlos:  they have linux drivers?
[18:16] <pavlos> Vacuum_, if you trave linto the intel site, there are drivers for hd3000 but I'm also checking "hd3000 kubuntu driver"
[18:17] <ducasse> Vacuum_: don't download anything, you should have the drivers you need. there are drivers for very new systems, but yours should be included.
[18:17] <Vacuum_> ducasse:  installed by default
[18:17] <Phryq> Oh, sorry. My kid called me away from the computer. sudo: etcher: command not found
[18:17] <Vacuum_> ducasse:  then what should be done?
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> Phryq  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[18:18] <Phryq> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l
[18:18] <ducasse> Vacuum_: i don't know why it can't see the port, maybe someone else knows.
[18:18] <TrevorBradley> Hey folks, got a question.  When I log into my newer ubuntu servers, I get the "packages can be updated / updates are security updates" message.  My older servers don't have that message.  It's really handy and I'd like to enable it on the older servers.  Where is it generated and how do I enable it?
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> !find etcher
[18:19] <Phryq> bash: !find: event not found
[18:19] <Vacuum_> ducasse:  pavlos  I wonder why i do not see this http://www.linuxveda.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/kubuntu13-10-krunner-additional.jpg
[18:20] <Vacuum_> http://www.linuxveda.com/2014/12/06/things-installing-kubuntu-click-next/
[18:20] <k1l_> Phryq: what is etcher?
[18:20] <binia> hiya
[18:21] <Phryq> https://www.etcher.io/
[18:21] <k1l_> Phryq: for making live usbsticks there is usb-creator, unetbootin or dd(on temrinal)
[18:21] <irishman2020> @k1l_> its basically unetbootin, just another opensource tool
[18:21] <binia> javing problem with rsync between two ubuntu machines, one decated server and one vps, both on 16.04 server edition
[18:21] <pavlos> Vacuum_, your laptop does not have an Nvidia gpu so there are no addl drivers for your system
[18:21] <irishman2020> tried "locate etcher"?
[18:21] <Phryq> I was using USB creator and unetbootin before. They were always having various problems. Someone suggested Etcher and it always worked perfectly until I just downloaded the update
[18:22] <Vacuum_> pavlos:  ducasse  plasma keeps on closing by error.
[18:22] <binia> seems it just hangs after sending incremental file list
[18:22] <Phryq> ok, I have some large code output for locate etcher
[18:22] <tneo> hello under Ubuntu 16.04 with a geforce 5700 card I don't get a higher resolution then 1280*1024 while I expect to be able to handle 1650*1050 which driver do I need to install?
[18:22] <k1l_> Phryq: what os do you want to put on the usb?
[18:22] <pavlos> Vacuum_, I suggest you try other live distros and see if your display works. From there you an find which driver is used
[18:22] <Phryq> Arch Anywhere
[18:22] <irishman2020> @phryq might have to look through that and ignore things that are "fetcher" etc
[18:23] <k1l_> does arch make hybrid isos? then you can just use dd in terminal
[18:23] <Vacuum_> pavlos:  which distros?
[18:23] <Phryq> here's the "locate etcher" output. https://www.pastiebin.com/57dae71b97992
[18:24] <pavlos> Vacuum_, stock ubuntu 16.04 or ubuntu-mate 16.04 or latest Mint. All you want is to "try" those and see if your display is better
[18:24] <Phryq> I have the .appimage of Etcher in my downloads folder
[18:24] <k1l_> Phryq: etcher is not included in ubuntu and is not in the repos.
[18:24] <Phryq> I don't really know what an app image is; an install file?
[18:24] <irishman2020> @Phryq: yup, probably not installed then. may have failed install. try traversing to the folder the deb is in and dpkg -i [debfilename.deb]
[18:24] <k1l_> Phryq: so you need to download that and install that manually. please see their website and their readme
[18:25] <ducasse> irishman2020: you don't need @ in front of nick on irc
[18:25] <irishman2020> ducasse: sorry, bad habbit switching between slack and irc
[18:26] <irishman2020> phryq: sounds like you dont have the .deb
[18:26] <Phryq> It's not a .deb, it's a .appimage, last time I just executed it and it installed
[18:26] <Phryq> maybe I need tp uninstall it in the terminal and then reinstall it?
[18:26] <k1l_> Phryq: did you read the etcher website?
[18:26] <Phryq> How can I uninstall?
[18:26] <pavlos> Vacuum_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/166224/how-do-i-install-the-intel-graphics-driver-in-my-system
[18:27] <Phryq> ya, the website just says to make it executable and run.
[18:27] <k1l_> Phryq: so?
[18:28] <irishman2020> Phryq: its not installed from what I can tell. you'll have to retry and/or check with etcher
[18:28] <TrevorBradley> Also (and hopefully without stepping on too many toes by asking), has the ATI driver situation improved yet for Ubuntu?  I tried it in 16.04 but rolled back after getting lots of graphical glitches and am sticking on 15.10 for now.
[18:28] <k1l_> appimages are not going to be "installed"
[18:28] <irishman2020> Phryq: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2325069
[18:28] <irishman2020> Try that
[18:29] <k1l_> users who cant even follow such basic explanations shouldnt run stuff from the internet with sudo, imho. there are more than enough other programs that do work in the repos.
[18:30] <ducasse> pavlos, Vacuum_: "The Intel graphics driver is part of the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver package, which is installed on all Ubuntu systems by default." there are no extra drivers for hd3000.
[18:30] <Phryq> oh, I just tried running it in terminal and it works
[18:31] <irishman2020> it seems like .AppImage is like a .sh file, just a script to install it
[18:31] <Phryq> k1l_ I'm not worried about breaking my system, I can always format
[18:31] <\9> Phryq: what if you break your data?
[18:31] <k1l_> Phryq: appimages are about running it from terminal.
[18:31] <Phryq> I keep my data on a separate drive
[18:31] <Vacuum_> ducasse:  pavlos thanks. will try or change  laptop
[18:32] <pavlos> Vacuum_, np good luck
[18:37] <teknomega> hi all.. i have 2 issues with my laptop that are boggling me
[18:37] <teknomega> how do i get a bluetooth mouse to connect and work ?
[18:37] <teknomega> ubuntu 16.04
[18:37] <teknomega> it says its connected in the bluetooth manager application that comes with ubuntu 16.04... doesn't really do anything thought
[18:38] <tneo> under Ubuntu 16.04 with a geforce 5700 card I don't get a higher resolution then 1280*1024 while I expect to be able to handle 1650*1050 which driver do I need to install?
[18:39] <teknomega> tneo, install the nvidia-370 driver from PPA
[18:39] <teknomega> then use nvidea application to setup your monitors
[18:39] <tneo> teknomega, ok I'll try
[18:44] <chris8> hey room, last I read, unetbootin was the go-to for creating USB start disks, and I've had success with it. But I read it can't be used to create a 16.04 boot USB on a 14.04 system. Is this still the case?
[18:44] <nicomachus> chris8: just use the Startup Disk Creator that ships with ubuntu
[18:45] <chris8> nicomachus: I always got a chechsum error with Startup Disk Creator
[18:46] <cscf> chris8, are you sure the ISO is correct and the USB stick has no bad sectors?
[18:48] <Vacuum_> ducasse:  pavlos can we have usb based displays?
[18:48] <chris8> cscf: I S5sum (or whatever) the ISO; they were good. Startup Disk Creator always had a checksum error anyway. The same ISO download and the same USB worked fine with unetbootin. I just want to know if I should bother trying with a 16.04 ISO if it won't work on a 14.04 system
[18:49] <pavlos> Vacuum_, I dont think so (at least in laptops)
[18:51] <teknomega> soooo.. anyone know how to connect a bluetooth mouse in ubuntu 16.04 ?
[18:52] <SchrodingersScat> !bluetooth
[18:52] <koning> Hi, I have a problem with my macbook air 2015 (7.2) on ubuntu 16.04; the touchpad isn't working
[18:52] <teknomega> well i am using 16.04... those bluetoothsetup instructions seem a bit old
[18:52] <Vacuum_> pavlos:  the latest LTS is 14.04.4 LTS? not 14.04.1 LTS? What older version should I try?
[18:54] <DexterF> hi
[18:54] <DexterF> minimal.iso - simply dd to thumb drive?
[18:54] <SchrodingersScat> DexterF: sounds fine
[18:55] <pavlos> Vacuum_, try 14.04 LTS the very first 14.04
[18:56] <Surfer2010> where is being determind in apache2 if the site must be called with http:///abcdh.com/wiki or .... http://ccc.com/wiki?
[18:57] <Vacuum_> pavlos: ok. I wonder why going back would help if the 14.04.01 didnt
[18:57] <Vacuum_> pavlos: won't the latest help?
[18:58] <pavlos> Vacuum_, just for kicks, try Mint (live version) if you have time
[18:58] <Vacuum_> pavlos:  never used mint. Is it like debian? what link to download from?
[18:59] <pavlos> Vacuum_, linuxmint.com
[18:59] <Vacuum_> pavlos:  I am confused, isnt 14.04.04 latest? it says on site: Kubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[18:59] <Vacuum_> The previous Long Term Support (LTS) version of the Kubuntu operating system.
[18:59] <Surfer2010> no apache2 channel?
[19:00] <Vacuum_> pavlos:  http://kubuntu.com/getkubuntu/
[19:00] <pavlos> 14.04.4 is better but for some reason your display does not play nice
[19:00] <SchrodingersScat> Surfer2010: it could be #httpd
[19:00] <makda7> hi, i got a problem with /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[19:00] <pavlos> so you might try other distros (debian based)
[19:00] <SchrodingersScat> !alis | Surfer2010 alis bot can also help you with this, keeps you from requesting the server list a bunch
[19:01]  * xissburg starts upgrading ubuntu 
[19:02] <xissburg> it'll probably go wrong
[19:02] <pavlos> Vacuum_, I assume you tried 16.04.1 and it does not play well
[19:02] <sannin> pavlos, run lsusb | grep blue
[19:02] <pavlos> sannin, I'm helping Vacuum_
[19:03] <sannin> pavlos, probably need to compile your drive
[19:03] <xissburg> wow my linode downloads at 14MB/s
[19:03] <koning> Hey, how can I check logs about my touchpad? It isn't working anymore
[19:04] <sannin> Vacuum_, jaja,, sorry
[19:05] <drab> is anybody familair with "safely remove drive" and how that can be done from command line?
[19:05] <sannin> Vacuum_, run on the console lsusb | grep blue
[19:05] <drab> i;m trying to use udiskctl power-off, but it's unclear if that's really the same
[19:05] <drab> on top of that, I've noticed that after a power-off the disk actually comes back to life immediate, as if I just powered it up
[19:05] <pavlos> drab, eject <device>
[19:08] <Vacuum_> sannin:  pavlos ducasse 16.04 xanial solved all the problems. Live cd check
[19:08] <drab> pavlos: I tried, it does nothing
[19:08] <drab> don't see anything in dmesg or anything else, like I didn't call it
[19:08] <koning> Is it safe to install libinput on ubuntu 16.04?
[19:09] <drab> also udiskctl power-off seems to be doing its job: kernel: usb 9-2: USB disconnect, device number 10
[19:10] <drab> and I see the disk's light going off
[19:10] <drab> but then it immediately comes back on again. still, can see it blip
[19:10] <pavlos> drab, plug in the usb ; df will should /dev/sdb1 ; type sudo eject /dev/sdb ; df drive no longer there
[19:11] <teknomega> !bluetooth doesn't help
[19:11] <pavlos> drab, will show
[19:11] <Guest22061> hola amigos
[19:11] <teknomega> its for old version of bluetooth ... does anyone have any idea of how to pair a bluetooth mouse with 16.04 ?
[19:12] <Guest22061> how to change My user name?
[19:14] <pavlos> Vacuum_, glad 16.04 worked
[19:14] <Vacuum_> pavlos:  cant understand why. I am going to che ck the live cd that I used to install in the first place.
[19:15] <Vacuum_> pavlos:  as 16.04 is older version than what I had in the first place
[19:15] <pavlos> Vacuum_, maybe the old iso was corrupt
[19:15] <Vacuum_> pavlos:  I did a kubuntu built in data check (the option at start)
[19:16] <pavlos> Vacuum_, who knows ... linux is finicky at times :)
[19:16] <Vacuum_> pavlos:  there is one different i notice. the first place iso had to do no set option with f6. The grpahics were making issues. the older version 16.04 had no issues
[19:18] <pavlos> Vacuum_, you mean nomodeset parm in grub?
[19:18] <Vacuum_> yes
[19:20] <pavlos> so you bypassed the intel graphics ... and used the basic vesa driver
[19:21] <Vacuum_> pavlos: and that was a result in installed os with no intel graphics? I had to do it because the installation was not proceeding. a plack screen blinking on top left.
[19:25] <pavlos> Vacuum_, right, the install had issues identifying the graphics so nomodeset is the safe option. Now you need to figure out why ...
[19:30] <ccherrett> I am looking for the Alternate iso to install raid1
[19:30] <ccherrett> can someone point me in the right direction
[19:30] <ccherrett> I see alternative downloads
[19:30] <ccherrett> but not the alternate iso
[19:31] <meshuggah> what do you want ccherrett ?
[19:31] <meshuggah> oh
[19:31] <meshuggah> to install raid1
[19:31] <meshuggah> i dont know
[19:31] <ccherrett> to install raid1 on first install
[19:32] <ccherrett> you cannot do it with the standard iso
[19:32] <ccherrett> I have done this before but ubuntu changed thier layout and I am no longer seeing the link to the alternate iso
[19:32] <bazhang> !alternate
[19:33] <Seveas> ccherrett: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04.1/ubuntu-16.04.1-server-amd64.iso
[19:34] <ccherrett> so I should use the server iso for now on?
[19:35] <Vacuum_> is kubuntu 16.04.04 latest? if so why the site says "previous version " on http://kubuntu.com/getkubuntu/
[19:36] <Jordan_U> ccherrett: http://askubuntu.com/questions/505446/how-to-install-ubuntu-14-04-with-raid-1-using-desktop-installer
[19:36] <dandels> Vacuum_, that page shows 14.04.04 and 16.04.1. No such thing as 16.04.04
[19:38] <oleg> Hi there
[19:39] <Vacuum_> dandels:  ah. I mesread. So do you also think my problem was nosetmode and kubuntu not using intel drivers?
[19:39] <Vacuum_> dandels:  sory. ignore my last message
[19:39] <malkauns_> what can i do about desktop lag in Unity with nvidia?
[19:39] <dandels> Vacuum_, yeah I haven't followed the conversation in this channel
[19:39] <malkauns_> like window focus takes 1 whole second sometimes
[19:39] <Vacuum_> k
[19:40] <oleg> exit
[19:40] <pavlos> oleg, type slash quit (/quit)
[19:51] <WLBI> hi
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> lo
[19:51] <WLBI> mid
[19:52] <Guest80925> WLBI: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:53] <teknomega> w0ot got the mouse working with bluetooth
[19:53] <teknomega> what a pita
[19:53] <teknomega> soo.. how about palm check with synaptics
[19:53] <teknomega> it seems like every settings using synclient works when chaning like scrollig and things liek that but when i try to enable palmcheck and plammin and palmminz they do not
[19:53] <teknomega> nothing changes
[19:55] <lapion> hello as of today rfkill status is not restored upon startup in my syste,
[19:56] <Jordan_U> teknomega: If you switch to libinput it should work by default, but you may lose other preferences that you like.
[19:58] <teknomega> Jordan_U, like ?
[19:58] <guvn0r> hi everyone. is i am looking to find any file type on a system by a certain user, and now that i must use the find command. can someone point me in the right direction please
[19:58] <teknomega> Jordan_U, how do i switch to libinput btw ?
[20:00] <guvn0r> anyone?
[20:00] <alkisg> guvn0r: example? find the .odt files on /home/username?
[20:00] <guvn0r> yes, -
[20:01] <alkisg> find /home/username -iname '*.odt'
[20:01] <cclarke> Is there a specific IRC channel for ubuntu OpenStack installation issues or would this be the place?
[20:01] <guvn0r> lets say im looking for any *.doc by user natasha i want to find all such and > /home/ssadmin/found
[20:01] <guvn0r> let me have a try thanks alkisg
[20:02] <kakas4> hey
[20:02] <Jordan_U> teknomega: http://askubuntu.com/a/678122
[20:03] <aki> cclarke: maybe #ubuntu-server
[20:03] <cclarke> aki: thanks, I can check there
[20:05] <mad_dev> @arunpyasi
[20:05] <guvn0r> works perfectly thank you @Alkisg / recommend if i search *.* types of documentation / files for that user across the system?
[20:05] <mad_dev> @guv0r thanks
[20:05] <alkisg> guvn0r: man find, I think you'll see "find -uid xxx" or something like that
[20:06] <guvn0r> yes yes, you i right, i can simply search by -uid. tech moved stuff around, now i need to find it.
[20:09] <DexterF> apt search wastes an awful lot of screen space. how can I make it use 1 line per find as before?
[20:10] <testt> Need to get 55.3 MB of archives.
[20:10] <testt> After this operation, 170 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[20:10] <testt> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
[20:10] <testt> Abort.
[20:10] <testt> ?
[20:11] <SchrodingersScat> DexterF: maybe you want 'list' instead of search?
[20:11] <alkisg> testt: press enter
[20:11] <testt> i did
[20:11] <alkisg> testt: without "y"
[20:11] <alkisg> Plain enter
[20:11] <Surendil> testt, or just apt-get install package -y
[20:12] <testt> alkisg..thanks
[20:12] <alkisg> testt: btw, what's your locale?
[20:13] <DexterF> SchrodingersScat: apt list ^xfce* <- nothing
[20:13] <DexterF> SchrodingersScat: sans the ^ works
[20:14] <bencc1> I have 5 public IPs that I can ping to but ifconfig show only lo and enp0s3 with IP on LAN. how to see all IPs?
[20:14] <alkisg> ip list
[20:14] <Jordan_U> bencc1: Do you know what NAT (Network Adress Translation) is?
[20:15] <bencc1> Jordan_U: yes
[20:16] <rc1> how can i get colored terminal . like "ls"  folder in different color and  executable in different.
[20:16] <pavlos> ls --color=auto
[20:17] <rc1> pavlos:i want it permanent in each command even in vim
[20:17] <l1wulf85> Hello everyone, I am a fairly advanced user except with dual boot. I am building a gaming pc, I have 1 250gb drive that I want to split between windows and Ubuntu but I have another 4tb drive I want to store media for both on. Ie video,music,pictures and documents . Best way to acheive this?
[20:18] <Jordan_U> bencc1: OK. Presumably you have a router which is providing NAT. Does that router have 5 public IP addresses? What is your end goal?
[20:19] <bencc1> Jordan_U: I want to list the IPs. if I have 5 public IPs shouldn't I be able to see them all from the server?
[20:20] <pavlos> rc1, add alias ls='ls --color=auto' in ~/.bash_aliases
[20:20] <Jordan_U> bencc1: How have you determined that you have 5 public ip addresses?
[20:20] <pavlos> rc1, pop a terminal, the command should show colors
[20:20] <mrjk> salut
[20:20] <k1l_> l1wulf85: half the 250gb disk for windows, then the other half for /, /home and swap. 15GB for /, swap=ramsize, rest /home. 4TB ntfs mounted in ubuntu as /mnt/data or such in fstab.
[20:20] <pavlos> rc1, if vim is correctly installed, it will show colors
[20:20] <bencc1> Jordan_U: the dedicated server provider told me. and I verified with ping and ssh
[20:21] <k1l_> l1wulf85: make sure windows doesnt use that fake "fast reboot" option for that 4tb drive
[20:21] <pavlos> rc1, if terminal prefs are different, they override colors
[20:21] <rc1> pavlos: when i use gedit ~/ .bashrc  it shows empty file
[20:21] <SchrodingersScat> rc1: spaces count
[20:21] <l1wulf85> k11_ "fast reboot"?
[20:22] <rc1> without space too
[20:22] <k1l_> l1wulf85: its a setting in windows that lets ntfs partitions mounted to get a faster reboot. you can disable that so other OS can use that disks too
[20:22] <pavlos> rc1, a basic .bashrc is about 122 lines (there is no space after slash
[20:24] <rc1> i am using  gedit ~/.bashrc
[20:24] <l1wulf85> k11_ Okay now I know what you meant, blonde moment there. Is there anything special I have to do for the less inteligent os to share the 4tb with linux?
[20:24] <rc1> pavlos:i am using  gedit ~/.bashrc
[20:24] <rc1> i shows empty file.
[20:24] <k1l_> l1wulf85: no.
[20:24] <rc1> *It
[20:25] <l1wulf85> k11_ alright thanks.
[20:25] <pavlos> rc1, from your home dir (/home/rc1) you type gedit .bashrc and it's empty?
[20:27] <pavlos> rc1, you can find a basic .bashrc in /etc/skel/.bashrc
[20:28] <Guest90031> bonsoir
[20:28] <SchrodingersScat> !fr | Guest90031
[20:28] <rc1> pavlos: I found it in etc/skel/.bashrc
[20:29] <Guest90031> hello
[20:30] <pavlos> rc1, you can copy the bashrc from skel to your home dir, if you messed up your home bashrc
[20:31] <pavlos> rc1, if you do so, you need to change owner
[20:32] <rc1> pavlos: i copied  etc/skel/.bashrc  in home directory and try to uncomment force_color_prompt=yes
[20:33] <pavlos> make sure ownership is correct (it should be rc1.rc1 with perms 644
[20:34] <rc1> pavlos: I got the color in terminal . where can i find terminal themes ?? any specific recommendation
[20:34] <floown> hello
[20:34] <floown> http://pastebin.com/XZV4VnYS <-------------- my installation is uptodate ? I ask because I have packets "half-configured" http://pastebin.com/NPR74KZw
[20:34] <pavlos> rc1, sorry, not use color much
[20:35] <rc1> pavlos: in properties owner is me . is it okay?
[20:36] <pavlos> rc1, -rw-r--r-- 1 pavlos pavlos 3811 Apr  8 08:32 .bashrc
[20:36] <pavlos> rc1, replace pavlos with rc1
[20:37] <pavlos> rc1, you know how to do that
[20:37] <rc1> pavlos:Yes, now its work fine . Thank you Sir for your precious support . Goood night
[20:38] <pavlos> rc1, np
[20:42] <xissburg> updating ubuntu fucked my wordpress installation lol
[20:43] <Jordan_U> bencc1: Since you're behind NAT, there is no way for your server to know its public ip address other than sending a request to another server on the internet to ask "Hey, what ip address did I just connect to you with?". I don't know how the router your hosting provider has setup decides which ip address should be used for connections originating at your server.
[20:43] <Jordan_U> xissburg: Please watch your language in this channel.
[20:44] <bencc1> Jordan_U: makes sense. thanks
[20:45] <Jordan_U> bencc1: You're welcome.
[20:45] <julian> c
[20:48] <borei1> hi all
[20:48] <demetris> hi u
[20:48] <borei1> ive got some problem, looking for correct solution
[20:48] <borei1> i have several VMs on the host, VM are controlled by corosync/pacemaker
[20:49] <borei1> on the systemd level i disable libvirt-guests
[20:49] <borei1> but, it's still at level 6
[20:49] <borei1> so when im trying to shutdown host libvirt-guests trying to work from level 6
[20:50] <borei1> but my VM supposed to migrate
[20:50] <borei1> and if there is delay for some reason it will be killed
[20:51] <borei1> so, how properly completely remove libvirt-guests from all levels ?
[20:52] <borei1> remove that init file ?
[21:04] <BL4DE> Do animated mouse cursors consume more memory? I suppose it would add to the xorg process memory?
[21:06] <DexterF> BL4DE: well, technically yes.. but what odds are you up against that you need to worry about the mem usage of animated pointers?
[21:06] <DexterF> I had that on my Amiga 500, that had 1MB RAM...
[21:07] <BL4DE> DexterF: https://www.gnome-look.org/p/999859/ looks kinda fancy but idk if something this small could impact modern system?
[21:09] <malkauns_> what can i do about desktop lag in Unity with nvidia? window focus takes 1 whole second sometimes
[21:09] <BL4DE> malkauns_: I dropped nouveau drivers they were jerky with the animations in gnome-shell for me
[21:10] <BL4DE> malkauns_: try using proprietary nvidia drivers
[21:10] <DexterF> BL4DE: well, it's a gnome thing so I guess it has soem fancy libraries attached here, but I doubt it's more than in the KB range
[21:11] <DexterF> give it a try, I'd say
[21:11] <BL4DE> malkauns_: my nvidia config https://paste.gnome.org/pexkis5k0
[21:12] <BL4DE> DexterF: thanks
[21:14] <DexterF> um, in apt, how can I have aptitude /apt-get like status flags? like "i xfce4" <- "i"nstalled
[21:14] <backbox> hola
[21:15] <backbox> ping
[21:17] <malkauns_> BL4DE> and your experience is super smooth at all times?
[21:18] <BL4DE> Could you recommend a dark icon theme that doesn't contrast too much with dark GTK/Qt theme? I've yet to find anything nice on the eyes and useable?
[21:19] <Bashing-om> malkauns_: Ya got the ram installed to support the GUI needs ? 2 gigs or more ??
[21:19] <malkauns_> 16gb here on my macbook pro :)
[21:20] <Bashing-om> UHHHH ,, I am jealous . No problem to handle a GUI !
[21:22] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: What did you come up with for booting ?
[21:22] <Fudge> DexterF:  theye caled aliases
[21:22] <Fudge> called
[21:22] <DexterF> installed aptitude, all fine
[21:23] <Fudge> DexterF:  ok cool, this is our .bash_aliases file if you like http://paste.ubuntu.com/23183797/
[21:24] <DexterF> Fudge: no idea what you are trying to tell me :)
[21:25] <DexterF> what lightweight display manager lets me auto-login? xdm can't, and when I tried installing lightdm, it wanted to install half of gnome
[21:27] <AciD`> hey, I used debootstrap to create a xenial system
[21:27] <BL4DE> DexterF: noDM
[21:28] <xaviergmail> Are there any Windows malware removal packages ? I'm aware of Ubuntu MRT but I'd like to do it from within my existing Ubuntu installation if possible.
[21:28] <AciD`> I have rebooted and can log as root into it. now, I do not have any network. I copy pasted the defaut "auto lo iface lo inet loopback" in /etc/network/interfaces, but still no luck
[21:28] <AciD`> any idea what to do? install the network-manager package somehow?
[21:28] <lordcirth> xaviergmail, there is Clam-AV.  it finds malware, I don't know how good it is about removing it safely.
[21:29] <AciD`> also, the update-grub only recognize the debootstrapped system, not the other systems on the computer, how can I fix that?
[21:29] <lordcirth> AciD`, 'lo' is the loopback interface, that won't give you internet
[21:29] <OerHeks> xaviergmail, you might want to search for antivirus live iso's
[21:29] <lordcirth> There's Kaspersky Rescue Disk
[21:29] <DexterF> BL4DE: nice
[21:30] <xaviergmail> lordcirth: I'll have a look, thank you. I just need to figure out what's going on.. Dick IO light is constantly on and I hear my drive going crazy. Fearing it's some sort of horrible ransomware
[21:30] <AciD`> lordcirth > yes, but *ubuntu are supposed to generate the eth0 (or more specifically the new interface names) for you, how can I configure that?
[21:30] <xaviergmail> Jesus, Disk IO*
[21:30] <lordcirth> xaviergmail, install iotop and run 'sudo iotop'
[21:30] <lordcirth> That will tell you what's doing all this disk IO
[21:31] <serard_> Hello
[21:31] <xaviergmail> lordcirth: IO issues are on my windows install, not this :p
[21:31] <lordcirth> xaviergmail, oh right sorry
[21:31] <serard_> I have Lubuntu latest 16.04.1 fresh install with some tools (vagrant, vbox, node); sudo reboot works fine, but sudo halt hangs on.
[21:32] <DexterF> BL4DE: but how to tell it to start an xfce4 session? (just installed "server" flavour and xfce from apt, so no Xsession configured yet)
[21:32] <lordcirth> AciD`, auto eth0 ; iface eth0 inet dhcp
[21:32] <serard_> I have tried modifying "acpi=force", not working; "pci=noacpi" gave me no more screen,; any advice ?
[21:32] <serard_> maybe a bios misconfig with acpi ?
[21:32] <AciD`> I tried that, but it says eth0 does not exists when I ifup it
[21:32] <lordcirth> AciD`, but your interface might not be eth0, since we use different naming now.  Use 'ip addr' to see what it's called.
[21:33] <AciD`> lordcirth > ah yes, I see its name there
[21:33] <AciD`> still, I do not remember seeing this line being written in that interface file before, everything was 'automatic'
[21:34] <Bashing-om> serard_: Laptop ? which manufacturer ?
[21:35] <AciD`> at least I got the connectivity back, thank you for the hint lordcirth
[21:35] <serard_> Bashing-om, nop, a PC, custom-made, motherboard is ROG Rampage3 BE, I have PCI RevoDrive X2 and a nvidia 650GTi
[21:36] <serard_> Bashing-om,  and system is booting from a HDD on a SCSI (raid provided by motherboard)
[21:36] <allegro>  do i ausing vmware howdjust my screen size from default.Got all this wasted Spc
[21:37] <serard_> ok
[21:37] <serard_> not "sudo halt", but "sudo poweroff
[21:37] <serard_> working
[21:37] <serard_> sorry for interrupting ;)
[21:37] <serard_> **newbeeeeeee <3 good night guys
[21:42] <AciD`> dang, I rebooted my debootstrapped system after installing xorg, but now I arrived on the sddm greeter, and neither my mouse nor my usb keyboard seems to be recognized. I can ssh to the box. What can I do?
[21:44] <Jordan_U> AciD`: Are they recognised in a tty? Is ubuntu-minimal installed?
[21:45] <AciD`> Jordan_U > yes, ubuntu-minimal is installed
[21:45] <AciD`> I cannot check if the mouse and keyboard are recognized under a tty, since I cannot switch to it :/
[21:46] <Jordan_U> AciD`: OK, so ctrl+alt+F1 doesn't bring you to a tty? Does alt+sysrq+r create a message in dmesg?
[21:47] <AciD`> ctrl+alt+f1 does not do anything
[21:47] <BL4DE> AciD`: try sudo dhcpcd interface name
[21:48] <AciD`> BL4DE > thank you, I fixed my network problem (I think) with lordcirth hint, and I now have installed network-manager, which should do that automatically
[21:48] <BL4DE> ah nvm you got network
[21:48] <AciD`> Jordan_U > yes, it does write sysrq: SysRq : This sysrq operation is disabled. in syslog
[21:49] <AciD`> BL4DE > one thing at a time ;)
[21:49] <Jordan_U> AciD`: OK, so at some level the keyboard works at least.
[21:49] <AciD`> yep, perhaps that's a sddm prblem
[21:49] <BL4DE> AciD`: make sure you have full xorg-server package installed, xf86-input-libinput or  xf86-input-evdev for the mouse
[21:50] <AciD`> BL4DE > ah yes, I only installed xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu :x
[21:51] <AciD`> yes!
[21:52] <sachins> Hi, I am trying to install grub in legacy mode. But grub install seems to be installing only the EFI firmware config. What am I doing wrong?
[21:52] <AciD`> thank you BL4DE ;)
[21:52] <BL4DE> AciD`: glad to help
[21:53] <Jordan_U> sachins: Why are you trying to install grub for BIOS? Are you currently booted via UEFI? What grub-install command are you running and what is its complete output?
[21:53] <sachins> Jordan_U, Nope. I am booted in Legacy mode
[21:54] <sachins> Jordan_U, just this : Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration
[21:55] <sachins> Jordan_U, I did update-grub
[21:55] <Jordan_U> sachins: update-grub doesn't install grub, it updates the /boot/grub/grub.cfg and nothing else.
[21:56] <BL4DE> sachins: did you install OS itself in UEFI or Legacy bios?
[21:56] <Jordan_U> sachins: Use grub-install to install grub.
[21:56] <k1l_> !backbox | sachins
[21:56] <sachins> Jordan_U, My bad. I already did that. I was trying to add menu entries to it
[21:57] <BL4DE> sachins: # grub-install --target=i386-pc /dev/sdx
[21:57] <BL4DE> # grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[21:58] <BL4DE> probably sda drive
[22:03] <BL4DE> DexterF: https://github.com/spanezz/nodm
[22:05] <MarcoPau> Hi, I find myself with a huge (in terms of memory usage) "Web Content" command under top. What is that supposed to be?
[22:05] <DexterF> BL4DE: botched somethign else up, got it working now, thanks anyway
[22:05] <k1l_> MarcoPau: what command is it?
[22:05] <k1l_> MarcoPau: maybe htop is bit more precise
[22:05] <MarcoPau> k1l_: that's what I am asking. It shows as "Web Content"
[22:06] <MarcoPau> k1l_: let me give it a try
[22:06] <k1l_> MarcoPau: that sounds like a plugin container from your browser
[22:08] <idoko> MarcoPau: Running firefox by any chance?
[22:09] <MarcoPau> k1l_: possibly. these browsers are RAM eaters. what the hell. I know it's my fault cause I use dozens of tabs but this is how it is nowadays with browsing and working with the web... :-/
[22:09] <MarcoPau> idoko: yep
[22:14] <BL4DE> I recommend uninstalling flash player cause sometime firefox defaults to using it instead of html5. besides chrome and firefox are dropping flashplayer soon
[22:18] <MarcoPau> BL4DE: will that have a good impact on the RAM usage?
[22:30] <bumblefuzz> how do I find out what package a specific file was installed with?
[22:33] <meshuggah> why is main ubuntu with unity?
[22:34] <OerHeks> Design.
[22:35] <BL4DE> MarcoPau: it should. flash is quite heavy. and it not really necesarry these days
[22:35] <stoopkid> does anybody know if mc (midnight commander) comes by default with ubuntu? or would i have had to install that at some point
[22:35] <k1l_> stoopkid: iirc mc is not installed by default
[22:36] <stoopkid> k1l_: thanks
[22:36] <k1l_> just looked at it, its not installed
[22:36] <stoopkid> cool, i guess i must've just forgot to write it down when i installed it
[22:37] <trudko> Hi everyone I want to updgrade pulse audio to version 9.0 because of bug they fixed there. I tried to add ppa http://pastebin.com/nSL2K4w7 but I got error pulseaudio is already the newest version (1:8.0-0ubuntu3)
[22:38] <theorem> does anyone know where passwords are stored in the firefox default install ?  I am trying to extract user/pass from an old drive.
[22:38] <k1l_> trudko: can you show a "apt-cache policy pulseaudio"?
[22:39] <stoopkid> hrm, in the line " curl http://beyondgrep.com/ack-2.14-single-file > ~/bin/ack && chmod 0755 !#:3 ", what does the "!#:3" mean?
[22:39] <trudko> k1l_: yes this is it http://pastebin.com/3EtHrtNY
[22:39] <k1l_> trudko: who said its verison 9 in that PPA? its only verison 9 for 16.10 in that ppa
[22:40] <trudko> k1l_: ou well nobody did I found this solution for older versions
[22:40] <k1l_> trudko: as you can see even ubuntu ships a newer version than that ppa
[22:40] <trudko> so what should I do then?
[22:40] <trudko> I guess remove the ppa first
[22:40] <trudko> its useless anyway
[22:40] <bumblefuzz> how do I search for an installed package using apt-get?
[22:40] <k1l_> trudko: yes
[22:41] <wigust> if i create a torrent file, do i need an open port in firewall?
[22:42] <trudko> k1l_: and how to upgrade it to 9.0 now?
[22:42] <k1l_> trudko: find another ppa?
[22:43] <AhToyMaker> hey the disk formatter on ubuntu is called?
[22:43] <AhToyMaker> and the image burner?
[22:43] <k1l_> AhToyMaker: gparted
[22:44] <k1l_> image burner is usb-creator
[22:45] <k1l_> trudko: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=pulseaudio
[22:50] <trudko> k1l_: thanks I've used one. If I needed the ppa just for that I can remove it now after I've upgrade pulse audio can't i?
[22:51] <k1l_> yes. but you wont get any updates for pulseaudio anymore
[22:51] <AhToyMaker> anyone know how to put linux on a cubieboard 5?
[22:51] <AhToyMaker> linux/ubuntu
[22:51] <trudko> k1l_: thats fine I am up to date anyway now
[22:51] <trudko> tthanks agian , take care
[22:52] <OerHeks> AhToyMaker, if that is ARM, ask in #ubuntu-arm
[22:53] <hepstars> i installed 16.10 64bit on a HP dv6731eo. After I login there is some quick diaogs showing that there is errors and then the screen goes black. Can someone help me resolve this?
[22:53] <OerHeks> hepstars, why 16.10 ?
[22:56] <hepstars> OerHeks/ Sorry it is 16.04. It is a while since I installed and just remembered wrong.
[22:56] <pavlos> AhToyMaker, cubieboard.org/download should have images but their database is down ...
[22:56] <OerHeks> oh oke, 16.10 is not released yet, alfa status
[22:57] <OerHeks> you have no idea what error?
[22:57] <hepstars> The login screen looks all good.
[22:58] <pavlos> AhToyMaker, http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/Images_Ubuntu
[23:01] <hepstars> OerHeks/ I tried a reboot now but the error did not reappear
[23:02] <hepstars> Black screen but the mouse and pointer is all good.
[23:14] <hepstars> Now i remove --purge nvidia-*, and after reboot both login screen and bash is all blurred with black lines on every second row or so.
[23:22] <Bashing-om> hepstars: Does the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf exist ? If so move it out of the way .
[23:24] <hepstars> thanks i will try that. can i just delete it?
[23:25] <Bashing-om> hepstars: I would delete it . If needed one can re-create it on the new environment .
[23:26] <hepstars> i only find a xorg.conf.failsafe file
[23:26] <hepstars> in that folder
[23:27] <l33n> is it possible to use a ps4 controller as a wireless mouse for gnome
[23:28] <l33n> i tried using ds4drv but could not get it to work
[23:28] <hepstars> another problem in bash now is that all the black lines makes probably half the screen not visible. only seeing the top half
[23:29] <l33n> any pointers would be appreciated
[23:30] <Bashing-om> hepstars: Then should be good . Does ' sudo lshw -C display ' show a driver loaded ?
[23:32] <hepstars> nouveau
[23:32] <perfecto> /home/perfecto/Mixxx-Manual.pdf
[23:35] <Bashing-om> hepstars: If ya boot into the guest account are the graphics good ? Then we looking at a config issue in your account .
[23:36] <hepstars> no after i purged nvidia the login screen is also distorted
[23:37] <Bashing-om> hepstars: Have you rebooted for the nouveau driver to take effect ?
[23:37] <hepstars> even after i hit ctrl+alt+F1 to enter bash
[23:37] <hepstars> yes
[23:37] <hepstars> i restarted
[23:37] <hepstars> i can give it one more try
[23:38] <hepstars> aso the logo/load screen when i boot is distorted
[23:39] <hepstars> *also
[23:41] <Bashing-om> hepstars: That distortiuon at the login screen is even before the GUI driver is loaded . ya got deeper problems . What does the recovery console look like ?
[23:42] <hepstars> how do i enter recovery console?
[23:44] <tekkie> 'Ello
[23:45] <Bashing-om> hepstars: EFI system ?
[23:49] <hepstars> Grub looks fine. Entering advanced options looks distorted. Dont know about EFI. PhoenixBIOS with very few options
[23:55] <Bashing-om> hepstars: If advanced options are distorted, that is indicative that bios is not handing off to grub a proper video mode .
[23:56] <hepstars> but, when i installed nvidia driver loginscreen and bootloader looked just fine
[23:57] <hepstars> but when i then logged in screen turned black
[23:57] <hepstars> and bash also looks fine when using nvidia
[23:58] <Bashing-om> hepstars: Not at all knowkedgeable at that level . What results if ya re-install a nVidia driver ?
[23:58] <hepstars> trying to reinstall nvidia now
[23:59] <Bashing-om> hepstars: what card ? lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' in a pastebin . I match the correct driver to the card .
[23:59] <hepstars> one moment, in the middle of an rebbot