| Bashing-om | Thunderstorm .. me be gone down for the count . | 01:01 |
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| ducasse | morning all! | 06:07 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:33 |
| ducasse | wb BluesKaj :) | 11:34 |
| BluesKaj | Hi ducasse | 11:36 |
| ducasse | everything well in your corner of the world? | 11:37 |
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| ducasse | daftykins: you around, or still across the pond? | 11:44 |
| BluesKaj | he's still marked away | 11:46 |
| ducasse | didn't see that, sorry | 11:47 |
| BluesKaj | wow, suddenly bigtime cpu usage on FF | 11:49 |
| ducasse | BluesKaj: what os are you running on your rpi? i need to fix some stuff on mine, so i'm looking for a good base to work with. | 11:49 |
| BluesKaj | dunno which is worse FF with or without adblockers | 11:50 |
| ducasse | have you tried privoxy instead? | 11:50 |
| BluesKaj | ducasse, I'm running a modded raspbian-jessie, rather than their xfce/ldxe combo desktop, I'm using lxde exclusively.Also i moved root dir to a fast 3.0 USB stick, which makes it much faster | 11:53 |
| ducasse | i can imagine, sd card isn't too quick. i mostly just need a good base for kodi, but want to also add a few other things for convenience. | 11:55 |
| BluesKaj | that way the sd card only has to boot the system, since my first one died after 8-9 formats trying out different OSs ...lot's od uders are now using ubuntu mate with root on usb | 11:57 |
| BluesKaj | of users | 11:57 |
| BluesKaj | thinking of switching to ubuntu-mate, but ai like the lxde deskrop, and kodi runs fine on my setup as an app | 11:59 |
| ducasse | i was thinking of setting kodi up to run as the wm, as most of the other stuff i want are just things i can handle via ssh. i'll look at both raspbian and ubuntu mate, though. | 12:04 |
| BluesKaj | ok ,, yakkety has some ppa packages that need testing ...bbiab | 12:10 |
| JanC | I don't think Kodi can run as a WM? | 13:10 |
| ducasse | JanC: iirc it can, i think that's how several of these media player distros are set up. there even used to be an entry in /usr/share/xsessions for it, don't know if that's still there. | 13:19 |
| ducasse | (i know it doesn't actually function as a wm, i was talking about autologin to an x session that just runs kodi fullscreen on startup) | 13:19 |
| JanC | right, that wouldn't make it a "WM", but more like a graphical shell or something | 13:21 |
| ducasse | i know, just bad choice of words. | 13:22 |
| BluesKaj | was looking into i3 tiling yesterday, but I'm too much of a gui user to bother with that | 13:24 |
| JanC | tiling is a form of GUI? | 13:24 |
| BluesKaj | I didn't say that | 13:24 |
| ducasse | i3 is really nice, especially on multi-monitor systems. | 13:24 |
| BluesKaj | it's mostly shells placed evenly on your screen depending on haow many you enable at any one time | 13:25 |
| JanC | ? | 13:26 |
| JanC | it works for all windows, not just shells... | 13:26 |
| BluesKaj | well I didn't see anything but shells in the exampleson the i3 site | 13:27 |
| ducasse | BluesKaj: unlike some tiling wms, i3 can also 'float' windows, and does so automatically for dialogs and such. | 13:27 |
| BluesKaj | at first i thought it would be neat, but still prefer switching with activities on xenial and yaketty or virtual desktops on trusty | 13:29 |
| JanC | https://i3wm.org/screenshots/i3-10.png ? | 13:30 |
| BluesKaj | what's with ? on every post, JanC? | 13:31 |
| ducasse | BluesKaj: you might like awesome, it can tag windows and create workspaces with all windows with a certain tag on the fly. i dislike the way most desktops handle multiple screens, personally. | 13:32 |
| JanC | it's a question mark, BluesKaj | 13:32 |
| BluesKaj | ducasse, well, I liked the virtual desktops on kde/plasma4 , but after 15.04 and plasma5 the devs regressed that feature without a blink and shoved activities down our throats, a much clunkier methos in my view | 13:34 |
| BluesKaj | method | 13:34 |
| BluesKaj | JanC, I'm surprised you didn't use one there :-) | 13:35 |
| ducasse | i've never really looked much at kde, so i can't comment. i like i3, though, lightweight and flexible. the people in #i3 are very helpful to those who rtfm :) | 13:38 |
| BluesKaj | ducasse, too bad they called it "awesome", such an overused word for all kinds non-awsome things these days | 13:38 |
| ducasse | ...and horrible to google :-/ | 13:38 |
| BluesKaj | I'll bet | 13:39 |
| ducasse | what i didn't like about awesome was lua, but i understand why some people see it as a major feature. i don't want to learn a new language just for my wm, though. | 13:41 |
| BluesKaj | well, being a basic home user makes it unnecessary for me to run more "advanced" WMs etc, since i don't feel the need for them ...testing dev OSs can be difficult enough without adding unneeded apps to the mix :-) | 13:50 |
| ducasse | i view desktop environments as "adding unneeded apps to the mix" :) | 13:51 |
| BluesKaj | well, that's your choice, mine's just different, that's my view | 13:57 |
| ducasse | absolutely :) people's workflows are so individual, i'm happy there are so many choices available. | 13:58 |
| BluesKaj | I don't have a "workflow", mostly I just muck about :-) | 14:04 |
| ducasse | :) | 14:04 |
| ducasse | btw, virtual desktops on kde4 - was that workspaces as most wms implement them or something different? | 14:05 |
| BluesKaj | well, they could be workspaces if set up that way | 14:06 |
| BluesKaj | basically they just ordinary numbered desktops which can have different backgrounds and as many apps per as one wishes | 14:08 |
| ducasse | pretty much what other desktops/wms do. and this is missing from plasma? | 14:10 |
| BluesKaj | it's been deleted in plasma5 | 14:10 |
| ducasse | odd, i'd think it's a pretty basic feature... | 14:12 |
| BluesKaj | according to the devs, it's a complex setup that wasn't renewed | 14:14 |
| ducasse | well, their choice i guess. earlier today there was a guy in #i3 who was running kde plasma, but with i3 instead of kwin. interesting setup. | 14:17 |
| * BluesKaj nods | 14:22 | |
| ducasse | !info linux-image-generic yakkety | 14:26 |
| ubot5` | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.9136.37 (yakkety), package size 2 kB, installed size 12 kB | 14:26 |
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