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IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Anyone having connection issues on WiFi? | 00:46 |
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darin | ahoneybun: regarding wifi and 16.10 with staging-ppas. I had one laptop that did not conect to wifi when brought out of sleep right after the staging update, but subsequent no issues with the next few sleep awakes. | 01:32 |
darin | ahoneybun: I was able to recover the failed wifi with nmcli command.... | 01:33 |
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darin | ahoneybun: Another 16.10 laptop with staging ppa is running fine with wifi but have not put it to sleep yet.... will test shortly | 01:34 |
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DarinMiller | ahoneybun: wifi on 2nd laptop with 16.10 and staging ppa's is working fine even after sleep. Wish I could same the same for the NVidia 370.28 driver and it seem to fall off the bus about every other sleep attempt. | 01:49 |
IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I don't have staging on though | 01:51 |
DarinMiller | ahoneybun: my other laptop has occasionly had reconnection issues after sleep for it's entire life so I doubt the connection issue after sleep had anything to do with 16.10 or the staging PPA's | 01:54 |
ahoneybun | a few reboots seemed to fix it | 01:55 |
ahoneybun | works fine on ethernet though | 01:55 |
DarinMiller | ahoneybun: did you try: nmcli -p con up "<your network name>" ifname <your wireless card name> | 02:02 |
DarinMiller | ahoneybun: i.e. nmcli -p con up "Millers_5G" ifname wlp1s0 | 02:02 |
DarinMiller | ahoneybun: works for me everytime-no reboot needed. | 02:03 |
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lordievader | Good morning | 08:31 |
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BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:18 |
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IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> Afternoon :) | 11:41 |
IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> /me yawns | 11:41 |
IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> I woke up at 6:30 AM on a SATURDAY?!? | 11:42 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> @tsimonq2, I was wondering why on earth you are about yet! | 11:42 |
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acheronuk | santa_: ping | 15:56 |
santa_ | acheronuk: pong. brb in ~20 mins and we will fix something in plasma 5.7.5 ok? | 16:15 |
acheronuk | santa_: actually, call it 40 mins as just decided I better eat 1st. ok? | 16:16 |
santa_ | ok, no problem | 16:16 |
acheronuk | santa_: ok. whenever you are ready | 16:51 |
santa_ | acheronuk: ok, let me explain | 16:52 |
santa_ | the official ppas have a couple of important limitations | 16:53 |
acheronuk | you are not kidding! | 16:53 |
santa_ | nope, 1. they don't put packages on hold properly when you need to get one package to build another because of versioned build depends | 16:54 |
santa_ | 2. when build depends aren't properly bumped the builds may or may not fail to build | 16:55 |
santa_ | I want to focus on 2. | 16:55 |
santa_ | as you know I have a "ppa simulation" in one of my computers | 16:56 |
santa_ | this "ppa simulation" (which is actually a wannabuild/buildd setup doesn't have that limitations) | 16:56 |
santa_ | for this setup I have a fork of the status page | 16:57 |
santa_ | so I have something similar to the official ppas | 16:57 |
santa_ | and I made a test rebuild of plasma, status page: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp2/ubuntu-exp2_status_plasma.html | 16:58 |
acheronuk | yes | 16:59 |
santa_ | so lets see what happened with plasma-integration | 16:59 |
acheronuk | breeze | 16:59 |
acheronuk | wanted dep on that of 5.7.5, but only 5.7.2 available at build time | 17:01 |
santa_ | correct | 17:01 |
santa_ | it build depends right now on breeze-dev (>= 4:5.7.2~) | 17:02 |
acheronuk | yep, I get why that is wrong | 17:02 |
santa_ | so the official ppas fail or not fail randomly on this | 17:02 |
santa_ | my unofficial stuff is right now configured so it would fail allways | 17:02 |
santa_ | because it would pull latest breeze-dev from yakkety archive | 17:03 |
acheronuk | you mean fail even if the deps in the control, file are lower and satisfiable? | 17:04 |
acheronuk | but not consistent with the version you are building | 17:04 |
santa_ | it would pull stuff from my "ppa" only if I set a higher version than the archive | 17:04 |
acheronuk | ok | 17:04 |
santa_ | so if I change the thing to breeze-dev (>= 4:5.7.5~) | 17:05 |
santa_ | it would pull breeze-dev from the "ppa" | 17:05 |
acheronuk | clearly, yes | 17:06 |
santa_ | so that's one of the reasons why I'm doing this stuff in my "ppa simulation", because I can do stuff that can't done in the official ppas | 17:06 |
santa_ | * can't be done in the official ppas | 17:06 |
santa_ | now, regarding the wrong build depends bumping there's another issue to consider | 17:07 |
santa_ | this is just an hypothetical example but supose we have a source package called libfoo being part of both plasma 5.7.2 and 5.7.5 | 17:08 |
santa_ | lets supose we have a package libfoo1 produced by the source package libfoo version 5.7.2 | 17:09 |
santa_ | lets supose that the libfoo version 5.7.5 produces libfoo2 because there was a soname bump | 17:10 |
santa_ | now lets suposed we have another package being part of plasma called "bar" | 17:10 |
santa_ | "bar" uses libfoo | 17:11 |
acheronuk | https://media.giphy.com/media/3EUgWmcX2NOBa/giphy.gif | 17:12 |
santa_ | haha, now consider we have "libfoo-dev (>= 5.7.2)" in the bar source package 5.7.5 (i.e. we didn't bump the version of the build depends) | 17:13 |
santa_ | so if we build bar in an official ppa we could get it depending on libfoo1 or libfoo2 depending on the build order | 17:14 |
santa_ | and that's a problem | 17:14 |
acheronuk | yes | 17:14 |
santa_ | so I would suggest to re-bump all the build depends of plasma 5.7.5 and apps 16.04.3 | 17:15 |
santa_ | not just the ones failing to build in my ppa simulation | 17:15 |
santa_ | what do you think? | 17:15 |
acheronuk | yes, as soon a you pointed out that it had been forgotten, I did realise most of that. knew most already, and thought damn! | 17:16 |
IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> So we need to add what ppas to YY to test? | 17:17 |
santa_ | yeah, just wanted to make sure you were aware of the possible situations | 17:17 |
acheronuk | ahoneybun: I would hold off for now if we are going to rebuild some | 17:18 |
santa_ | ahoneybun: we will fix the things in staging, but we didn't yet, we will keep you posted about the progress | 17:18 |
IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> OK np | 17:19 |
santa_ | acheronuk: one last thing, there's a missing feature in the build depend bumping stuff | 17:20 |
acheronuk | santa_: yeah, I know it in theory but until you get used to putting that into practice time after time, it's just a case of forgetting to apply it when you are concentration on other parts of it. | 17:20 |
santa_ | don't worry it's very easy to fix | 17:20 |
acheronuk | yes, I had a play with the bump script | 17:21 |
santa_ | ok, I have pushed the feature no | 17:22 |
santa_ | * now | 17:22 |
acheronuk | before we get going I just want to ask.... | 17:22 |
santa_ | it's the -u/--update-mode for dev-package-names-list | 17:22 |
acheronuk | in frameworks, did you deliberately not push your latest kio changes to git for some reason? | 17:23 |
acheronuk | I notice you uploaded a fixed package, but not the changes to git | 17:24 |
santa_ | oh, sorry let me check... | 17:24 |
acheronuk | thought I'd better ask now before it slips my mind | 17:25 |
santa_ | pushed now, thanks for noticing | 17:26 |
acheronuk | np | 17:26 |
santa_ | ok, so about the plasma build depends fixing | 17:27 |
acheronuk | yes | 17:27 |
santa_ | the build depends map was generated with "dev-package-name-list -d yakkety -r plasma -m qt frameworks" | 17:27 |
santa_ | however if you run that command again, it would put frameworks 5.26 in the map and we don't actually want that | 17:28 |
acheronuk | no, I was going to say, as at the moment we don't know if 5.26 will even get a FFe | 17:28 |
santa_ | if you run "dev.package-name-list -d yakkety -r plasma" it would re-create the map, so it would remove the qt and fw build dependencies we put there previously | 17:29 |
santa_ | so that's what the "-u" option is for | 17:29 |
acheronuk | so leave the version already there | 17:30 |
acheronuk | for ones you don't specify I mean | 17:30 |
santa_ | yes, just pushed a small fix for KA right now | 17:33 |
santa_ | "dev-package-name-list -d yakkety -r plasma -u" will do the right thing | 17:33 |
santa_ | (for this particular case) | 17:34 |
acheronuk | "Update mode. With this mode you will update only the binary packages specified with '-r' and '-m' keeping any extra old packages" | 17:34 |
acheronuk | indeed | 17:35 |
santa_ | acheronuk: so that being said feel free to fix the thing | 17:36 |
santa_ | we could re-upload plasma 5.7.5 and stage it for xenial as well | 17:36 |
acheronuk | we could | 17:36 |
santa_ | so how do you want to proceeed, you fix plasma and I fix apps? | 17:37 |
acheronuk | I would rather both go through plasma if you can spare the time. | 17:38 |
santa_ | sure, lets go to the shared terminal then? | 17:39 |
acheronuk | yep. I think it relatively trivial, but since you are here. reassurance thing | 17:39 |
santa_ | np | 17:40 |
fenris- | mamarley: r u here? | 18:01 |
mamarley | pong | 18:02 |
fenris- | fenris@x240:~⟫ quasselclient -d Enabling compression... Using the DataStream protocol... Starting encryption... "no registered receiver for sync call: IrcChannel::joinIrcUsers (objectName=\"2/#kl\"). Params are:" (QVariant(QStringList, ("seeking4prettywife")), QVariant(QStringList, (""))) | 18:02 |
fenris- | the client freeze | 18:03 |
mamarley | How long has this been going on? Which core and client versions are you using? | 18:03 |
fenris- | after i recent update yakkety | 18:04 |
fenris- | previously i used 0.12.4-2ubuntu2 | 18:05 |
fenris- | now im trying the git version | 18:05 |
fenris- | 0.13.x | 18:05 |
fenris- | and im in unity now .. | 18:06 |
mamarley | What about the core? Which version is that running? Has it been updated recently? | 18:06 |
fenris- | core running 0.12.2-0ubuntu1 | 18:07 |
fenris- | u suggest i upgrade the core as well ? | 18:08 |
mamarley | Have you been able to connect successfully with any clients since you started having the problem? | 18:08 |
fenris- | not | 18:09 |
fenris- | nope* | 18:09 |
fenris- | a few days back the client works | 18:09 |
mamarley | Have you tried connecting with any other clients (like on different computers or something)? | 18:10 |
fenris- | my quasseldroid working fine | 18:11 |
fenris- | from my mobile phone | 18:12 |
ejat | Hi mamarley | 18:12 |
ejat | It me | 18:12 |
ejat | It's working fine here | 18:13 |
mamarley | OK, that means the core is working properly. You said the client quit after an update. What was updated? | 18:13 |
ahoneybun | can you move this to #kubuntu? | 18:13 |
ejat | Okie ahoneybun | 18:14 |
mamarley | How about #quassel? I'm not in #kubuntu. | 18:14 |
ahoneybun | (I know I was talking about issues with kickoff yesterday, so I'm bad at it) | 18:14 |
fenris- | okie | 18:15 |
santa_ | acheronuk: hmm, wait | 18:37 |
santa_ | we didn't commited the changes, did we? | 18:37 |
acheronuk | kill it? | 18:37 |
acheronuk | no | 18:37 |
santa_ | yeah | 18:37 |
santa_ | lets commit it and repeat | 18:37 |
santa_ | just a do-all git commit -am 'whatever' will do the thing | 18:38 |
acheronuk | santa_: done | 19:10 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> @tsimonq2 so where is the meeting going to happen? | 19:50 |
santa_ | +1 | 19:50 |
IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @ovidiuflorin In our Big Blue BUtton room :) | 19:50 |
IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> *Button | 19:51 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> which room? | 19:51 |
tsimonq2 | http://kubuntu.blindsidenetworks.net/kubuntu/ | 19:51 |
tsimonq2 | password is welcome | 19:51 |
tsimonq2 | room 1 | 19:51 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> thank you | 19:51 |
IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Mm darn flash | 20:01 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> 😜 | 20:23 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> you stay out | 20:23 |
IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Fine! | 20:36 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> they are talking about britney spears | 20:36 |
acheronuk | you don't want to hear about britney! | 20:37 |
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kwin build #231: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kwin/231/ | 21:34 | |
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acheronuk | I forgot how awful I am with those sorts of meetings. :P | 21:45 |
tsimonq2 | me too lol :P | 21:46 |
tsimonq2 | but hey, I only said "um" 20 times :P | 21:46 |
acheronuk | my mind just goes blank! | 21:46 |
tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: what is the current status of the slideshow? | 21:49 |
tsimonq2 | we discussed you at the meeting :P | 21:49 |
santa_ | acheronuk: oh, I have just remember something important about apps | 21:49 |
santa_ | some packages were synced with debian so we probably should merge in git and bump the changelog version | 21:50 |
* acheronuk also remembers why he didn't sort out a microphone for ages. I hate talking on those things | 21:50 | |
acheronuk | santa_: I vaguely recall some being done, yes you are surely correct. | 21:51 |
santa_ | acheronuk: ok, so we could try to get that done after we get the build depends versioning fixed | 21:53 |
santa_ | I will be afk soon, good night everyone | 21:54 |
acheronuk | yes, on all that. Good night santa | 21:55 |
IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> And I'm getting dinner | 21:55 |
IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> o/ santa_ | 21:56 |
acheronuk | no subs | 22:06 |
acheronuk | notes https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninja-meeting-september-17-2016 | 22:12 |
acheronuk | which should say with an asterisk at the bottom * Rik sat there for most of it not sure what to say | 22:13 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> Getting there: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RikMills | 22:18 |
acheronuk | Going to try to get that done next few days, so comments welcome | 22:19 |
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kwin build #115: STILL UNSTABLE in 50 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kwin/115/ | 22:20 | |
IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Broken | 22:44 |
IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> The slideshow that is | 22:44 |
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