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hikikoHi!04:55
willcookemorning all07:59
willcookeTheMuso, still around?07:59
TheMusowillcooke: Yup.08:00
TheMusoMorning all.08:00
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LaneyOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH08:02
LaneyI MISSED YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU08:02
LaneyFeeling Not Mutual08:08
pittiGood morning willcooke and Laney!08:17
pittihow are you doing?08:18
* pitti had a *really* quiet weekend, it has rained non-stop since Friday night (still is)08:18
Laneyhey pitti!08:20
Laneythe weather is unpleasant today here too - but the weekend was nice08:21
Laneythe parts where I wasn't in a flying metal tube anyway08:21
pittiLaney: so are you a certified surfer now?08:22
Laney3 days of surfing are behind me, indeed08:22
Laneydon't feel *that* much better than when I started :)08:23
Laneycould stand up some (most?) of the time08:23
pittioh, I expected these courses to take much longer08:23
Laneyone day the waves were quite big for beginners08:23
* Laney has painful ribs from that one08:24
willcookeNight TheMuso08:24
willcookehey Laney - welcome back!08:24
Laneyhi willcooke!08:24
willcookemorning pitti08:24
Laneywhat up?08:24
willcookeChillin'.  LIttle bit of illin'08:24
pittiLaney: hmm; I hope you enjoyed the rest of your vacation more!08:24
davmor2Laney: Shut up whinging already you had a blast, that's all we need to hear ;)08:24
Laneydavmor2: I can't sleep on one side :P08:25
LaneyBUT08:25
Laneywe were talking about going surfing again08:25
Laneyso must have had fun eh08:25
seb128oh, some activity here, good morning desktopers08:26
willcookeHey seb12808:26
Laneyhi seb128!08:26
pittibonjour seb128 !08:26
seb128sorry was head down in clearing backlog after 3 days w.e08:26
willcookeLaney, seb128 - any chance of an SRU for this?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus-image-converter/+bug/158109408:27
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1581094 in One Hundred Papercuts "Rotate option fails to open dialog" [Low,Confirmed]08:27
davmor2seb128: pfff come here and the first thing you do is work priorities man mornings first then work ;)08:27
seb128willcooke, no reason we couldn't08:28
seb128willcooke, I can add it to my list, going to have a look today08:30
willcookeseb128, I was thinking this might be a good 1st day tasks for flexiondotorg next Monday?08:30
willcooke1st / 1st week08:30
willcookewhat do you think?08:31
seb128as you wish08:32
seb128it's an easy job, he's to packaging so shouldn't be taking more than 15 minutes08:32
seb128but yeah, might be a nice/easy warm up one08:32
willcookeoki, would rather you kept things clear to focus on the U8 MIRs etc08:33
seb128makes sense08:34
seb128especially that I'm on holidays at the end of the week until octobre 7 (noticed I forgot to put those in the system before so did that earlier today...)08:35
willcookeOhh08:36
willcookeman08:36
willcookethat's gonna be fun08:36
andyrockmorning08:36
seb128hey andyrock!08:36
Laneyseb128: how's it going?08:37
Laneydid I m iss much? ;-)08:37
Laneyhi andyrock! how are you?08:37
andyrockhey hey Laney08:38
seb128Laney, going well, just had a 3 days w.e in France, that was nice08:43
seb128Laney, I don't think you missing much no, Trevinho landed the unity7 systemd session thingy08:44
Laneynothing better than some time in france!08:44
Laneyyeah I saw08:44
seb128otherwise fun is going for next weeks08:44
Laneywinning08:44
seb128the stack of MIRs for unity8 is still being worked on08:44
Laneylemme know if you want any help08:50
* Laney tries to remember what was going on 10 days ago08:50
Laneywas jujuing08:50
seb128_bah, internet disconnected08:51
seb128_if somebody said something and I didn't reply please repeat08:52
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Laney19/09 09:50:22 <Laney> lemme know if you want any help08:53
Laney19/09 09:50:37  * Laney tries to remember what was going on 10 days ago08:53
Laney19/09 09:50:39 <Laney> was jujuing08:53
Laneybe back in a minute08:53
seb128thanks08:56
seb128things are mostly being handled my Canonical upstreams and MIR team08:56
seb128but we need to keep an eye on those/help getting reviews/fixes going to get it in shape for landing08:57
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Laneyk09:22
seb128going for lunch, bbiab09:33
davmor2willcooke, seb128, Laney: so unity7 on it's own seems mostly stable I noticed an issue with routing which I believe maybe because of vpn and both connections enabling it by default maybe need to dig into that this morning10:00
davmor2testing unity8 desktop session in vm to see if the issue with mesa is now resolved10:01
davmor2unity8 still has issues which can potentially then affect unity7 still need to dig into those10:02
davmor2unity8 music and video scopes are triggering scope crashes which take out the dash10:03
davmor2digging into that too10:03
davmor2installing chrome works a charm10:04
willcookethanks davmor210:10
davmor2willcooke: oh the mesa fix seems to of fixed the scopes crash however in My Music I see zfscrypt xzio xnu uuid test as music tracks hmmm me thinks it is not looking in the right folder if it's finding that stuff10:13
willcookedavmor2, we can probably drop the music scope at this point10:13
davmor2willcooke: but then how do you play music?10:13
willcookemusic app?10:14
willcookedoes that need the scope?10:14
ahayzennope :-) just mediascanner10:14
willcooke:) thanks ahayzen - and welcome!10:16
ahayzenwillcooke, the music-app probably needs at media-hub and thumbnailer as well these days10:23
willcookeI think that once we get the terminal in main then people could pull those in from universe10:23
willcookesaves trying to MIR them now10:24
ahayzenyeah :-) i know the media-hub team were working on getting that running on desktop, and thumbnailer already seems to work10:24
willcookeplus I dont think media hub is fully "classic desktop" enabled yet10:24
willcookethat :)10:25
willcookethumbnailer is getting an MIR10:25
willcookegrr. Why does pad never reconnected properly10:42
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desrthello, desktop!11:56
seb128hey desrt, how are you?11:56
desrtgood.  a bit sleepy.  another busy weekend :)11:57
desrthow was your weekend?11:57
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seb128good, we were in France, had some relaxing time and good food11:57
desrtmorning, hikiko11:57
desrtvisiting family, or..?11:58
seb128yeah, visiting friends&familly for 3 days, that was nice ;-)12:01
* desrt waits for the next canadian long weekend to do the same12:02
desrtwillcooke: good morning12:02
willcookehi desrt12:03
hikikohi desrt12:08
hikikoand all :)12:08
willcookehi hikiko!  Good break?12:11
willcookehey renatu12:11
willcookeseb128, I was just talking to renatu about the packaging for buteo-syncfw - we've got it listed as not needed but it's being pulled in as a depends on something else right?12:13
willcookerenatu, so do you think we can get away with not having buteo-syncfw on the 16.10 desktop?12:13
hikikoyes willcooke :) it was nice! a bit tiring though!12:13
renatuwillcooke, yes, I will remove it from address-book-service dep12:14
willcookethanks renatu - in which case, I think that cascades down and means we can drop libiphb too right?12:14
willcookeand then just MIR address-book-service12:14
renatuwillcooke, I am not sure which package is asking for libiphb12:14
seb128willcooke, right, what renatu said12:15
renatuprobably this is a buteo-syncfw dep. If we drop buteo-syncfw it will not be necessary anymore12:15
willcookehmm, then I am confused as to why it's on the list :)12:15
willcookerenatu, that sounds good!12:16
willcookethanks12:16
seb128it's a buteo-syncfw depends yes12:16
willcookek12:16
willcookecool, so sounds like we're all set to change the packaging on a-b-service and drop libiphb and b-syncfw from the list12:16
willcookethanks a lot renatu12:16
willcookeand seb12812:16
seb128yw!12:17
willcookerenatu, could you send me a link to the MIR once filed?12:17
renatuwillcooke, https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/address-book-service/no-sync-dep/+merge/30609012:17
renatuwillcooke, I will create a silo with it. to test12:18
willcookerenatu, ta.  Once you're happy please file an MIR bug to get a-b-s in too12:18
willcookeand lemme have a link for that too12:18
seb128renatu, willcooke, Recommends is not good enough, we are going to need to MIR/install recommends or downgrade them to suggests12:19
renatuseb128, ok12:20
seb128so we should directly go for a Suggests12:20
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LaneyI just wrote something that does $(basename "${HOME}")15:29
* Laney sucks15:29
Sweet5harkevil15:31
ogra_yeah, you should grep /etc/passwd instead !15:38
ogra_:)15:38
LaneyAnother Quality Engineering Solution from CanonicalⓇ15:43
ogra_grep "${HOME}" /etc/passwd|cut -d: -f115:44
ogra_for the beauty of it :)15:44
* ogra_ giggles15:44
Laneythat is actually more robust15:44
Laneythe basename might not always be the username15:45
ogra_well, equally ugly15:45
Laneyoh it's shit15:45
Laneybut less buggy!15:45
Laney:)15:45
ogra_are there actual situations where you have $HOME but not $USER ?15:45
Laneydunno15:46
LaneyI made it use id -un15:46
desrti appear not to have $USER15:55
desrt(and i have $HOME)15:55
Laneyunlucky15:55
* Laney snuggles $USER15:55
Laneyhi desrt!15:56
desrthi laney :)15:56
Laneywhat's new?15:56
desrtnot lots.  trying to get unpriv'd lxc working again.  it's not going too well.15:56
desrtcgroups suck so bad :(15:56
desrtthe wild incompatibilities between cgroups v1 and v2 make the kernel developer's claims of taking backcompat seriously pretty laughable15:57
desrtand it's fine.... v1 was unfixable.... the break is worth it15:57
desrti just wish that they'd stop pretending that they are better on this point than anyone else15:57
* desrt watches Laney self-snuggle15:58
Laneyfirst jeans day of the season today15:59
Laneyhuddling is more appropriate15:59
desrti love colder!15:59
* desrt has had more than enough summer16:00
* desrt is targetted by an impressively advanced phishing scheme16:02
desrti think someone got hold of the customer list of my dentist....16:02
Laneyfree scale and polish or you hit the news16:05
desrtit's my old dentist... and i just had a scale and polish last week :p16:17

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