[04:55] <hikiko> Hi!
[07:59] <willcooke> morning all
[07:59] <willcooke> TheMuso, still around?
[08:00] <TheMuso> willcooke: Yup.
[08:00] <TheMuso> Morning all.
[08:02] <Laney> OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[08:02] <Laney> I MISSED YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[08:08] <Laney> Feeling Not Mutual
[08:17] <pitti> Good morning willcooke and Laney!
[08:18] <pitti> how are you doing?
[08:18]  * pitti had a *really* quiet weekend, it has rained non-stop since Friday night (still is)
[08:20] <Laney> hey pitti!
[08:21] <Laney> the weather is unpleasant today here too - but the weekend was nice
[08:21] <Laney> the parts where I wasn't in a flying metal tube anyway
[08:22] <pitti> Laney: so are you a certified surfer now?
[08:22] <Laney> 3 days of surfing are behind me, indeed
[08:23] <Laney> don't feel *that* much better than when I started :)
[08:23] <Laney> could stand up some (most?) of the time
[08:23] <pitti> oh, I expected these courses to take much longer
[08:23] <Laney> one day the waves were quite big for beginners
[08:24]  * Laney has painful ribs from that one
[08:24] <willcooke> Night TheMuso
[08:24] <willcooke> hey Laney - welcome back!
[08:24] <Laney> hi willcooke!
[08:24] <willcooke> morning pitti
[08:24] <Laney> what up?
[08:24] <willcooke> Chillin'.  LIttle bit of illin'
[08:24] <pitti> Laney: hmm; I hope you enjoyed the rest of your vacation more!
[08:24] <davmor2> Laney: Shut up whinging already you had a blast, that's all we need to hear ;)
[08:25] <Laney> davmor2: I can't sleep on one side :P
[08:25] <Laney> BUT
[08:25] <Laney> we were talking about going surfing again
[08:25] <Laney> so must have had fun eh
[08:26] <seb128> oh, some activity here, good morning desktopers
[08:26] <willcooke> Hey seb128
[08:26] <Laney> hi seb128!
[08:26] <pitti> bonjour seb128 !
[08:26] <seb128> sorry was head down in clearing backlog after 3 days w.e
[08:27] <willcooke> Laney, seb128 - any chance of an SRU for this?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus-image-converter/+bug/1581094
[08:27] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1581094 in One Hundred Papercuts "Rotate option fails to open dialog" [Low,Confirmed]
[08:27] <davmor2> seb128: pfff come here and the first thing you do is work priorities man mornings first then work ;)
[08:28] <seb128> willcooke, no reason we couldn't
[08:30] <seb128> willcooke, I can add it to my list, going to have a look today
[08:30] <willcooke> seb128, I was thinking this might be a good 1st day tasks for flexiondotorg next Monday?
[08:30] <willcooke> 1st / 1st week
[08:31] <willcooke> what do you think?
[08:32] <seb128> as you wish
[08:32] <seb128> it's an easy job, he's to packaging so shouldn't be taking more than 15 minutes
[08:32] <seb128> but yeah, might be a nice/easy warm up one
[08:33] <willcooke> oki, would rather you kept things clear to focus on the U8 MIRs etc
[08:34] <seb128> makes sense
[08:35] <seb128> especially that I'm on holidays at the end of the week until octobre 7 (noticed I forgot to put those in the system before so did that earlier today...)
[08:36] <willcooke> Ohh
[08:36] <willcooke> man
[08:36] <willcooke> that's gonna be fun
[08:36] <andyrock> morning
[08:36] <seb128> hey andyrock!
[08:37] <Laney> seb128: how's it going?
[08:37] <Laney> did I m iss much? ;-)
[08:37] <Laney> hi andyrock! how are you?
[08:38] <andyrock> hey hey Laney
[08:43] <seb128> Laney, going well, just had a 3 days w.e in France, that was nice
[08:44] <seb128> Laney, I don't think you missing much no, Trevinho landed the unity7 systemd session thingy
[08:44] <Laney> nothing better than some time in france!
[08:44] <Laney> yeah I saw
[08:44] <seb128> otherwise fun is going for next weeks
[08:44] <Laney> winning
[08:44] <seb128> the stack of MIRs for unity8 is still being worked on
[08:50] <Laney> lemme know if you want any help
[08:50]  * Laney tries to remember what was going on 10 days ago
[08:50] <Laney> was jujuing
[08:51] <seb128_> bah, internet disconnected
[08:52] <seb128_> if somebody said something and I didn't reply please repeat
[08:53] <Laney> 19/09 09:50:22 <Laney> lemme know if you want any help
[08:53] <Laney> 19/09 09:50:37  * Laney tries to remember what was going on 10 days ago
[08:53] <Laney> 19/09 09:50:39 <Laney> was jujuing
[08:53] <Laney> be back in a minute
[08:56] <seb128> thanks
[08:56] <seb128> things are mostly being handled my Canonical upstreams and MIR team
[08:57] <seb128> but we need to keep an eye on those/help getting reviews/fixes going to get it in shape for landing
[09:22] <Laney> k
[09:33] <seb128> going for lunch, bbiab
[10:00] <davmor2> willcooke, seb128, Laney: so unity7 on it's own seems mostly stable I noticed an issue with routing which I believe maybe because of vpn and both connections enabling it by default maybe need to dig into that this morning
[10:01] <davmor2> testing unity8 desktop session in vm to see if the issue with mesa is now resolved
[10:02] <davmor2> unity8 still has issues which can potentially then affect unity7 still need to dig into those
[10:03] <davmor2> unity8 music and video scopes are triggering scope crashes which take out the dash
[10:03] <davmor2> digging into that too
[10:04] <davmor2> installing chrome works a charm
[10:10] <willcooke> thanks davmor2
[10:13] <davmor2> willcooke: oh the mesa fix seems to of fixed the scopes crash however in My Music I see zfscrypt xzio xnu uuid test as music tracks hmmm me thinks it is not looking in the right folder if it's finding that stuff
[10:13] <willcooke> davmor2, we can probably drop the music scope at this point
[10:13] <davmor2> willcooke: but then how do you play music?
[10:14] <willcooke> music app?
[10:14] <willcooke> does that need the scope?
[10:14] <ahayzen> nope :-) just mediascanner
[10:16] <willcooke> :) thanks ahayzen - and welcome!
[10:23] <ahayzen> willcooke, the music-app probably needs at media-hub and thumbnailer as well these days
[10:23] <willcooke> I think that once we get the terminal in main then people could pull those in from universe
[10:24] <willcooke> saves trying to MIR them now
[10:24] <ahayzen> yeah :-) i know the media-hub team were working on getting that running on desktop, and thumbnailer already seems to work
[10:24] <willcooke> plus I dont think media hub is fully "classic desktop" enabled yet
[10:25] <willcooke> that :)
[10:25] <willcooke> thumbnailer is getting an MIR
[10:42] <willcooke> grr. Why does pad never reconnected properly
[11:56] <desrt> hello, desktop!
[11:56] <seb128> hey desrt, how are you?
[11:57] <desrt> good.  a bit sleepy.  another busy weekend :)
[11:57] <desrt> how was your weekend?
[11:57] <seb128> good, we were in France, had some relaxing time and good food
[11:57] <desrt> morning, hikiko
[11:58] <desrt> visiting family, or..?
[12:01] <seb128> yeah, visiting friends&familly for 3 days, that was nice ;-)
[12:02]  * desrt waits for the next canadian long weekend to do the same
[12:02] <desrt> willcooke: good morning
[12:03] <willcooke> hi desrt
[12:08] <hikiko> hi desrt
[12:08] <hikiko> and all :)
[12:11] <willcooke> hi hikiko!  Good break?
[12:11] <willcooke> hey renatu
[12:13] <willcooke> seb128, I was just talking to renatu about the packaging for buteo-syncfw - we've got it listed as not needed but it's being pulled in as a depends on something else right?
[12:13] <willcooke> renatu, so do you think we can get away with not having buteo-syncfw on the 16.10 desktop?
[12:13] <hikiko> yes willcooke :) it was nice! a bit tiring though!
[12:14] <renatu> willcooke, yes, I will remove it from address-book-service dep
[12:14] <willcooke> thanks renatu - in which case, I think that cascades down and means we can drop libiphb too right?
[12:14] <willcooke> and then just MIR address-book-service
[12:14] <renatu> willcooke, I am not sure which package is asking for libiphb
[12:15] <seb128> willcooke, right, what renatu said
[12:15] <renatu> probably this is a buteo-syncfw dep. If we drop buteo-syncfw it will not be necessary anymore
[12:15] <willcooke> hmm, then I am confused as to why it's on the list :)
[12:16] <willcooke> renatu, that sounds good!
[12:16] <willcooke> thanks
[12:16] <seb128> it's a buteo-syncfw depends yes
[12:16] <willcooke> k
[12:16] <willcooke> cool, so sounds like we're all set to change the packaging on a-b-service and drop libiphb and b-syncfw from the list
[12:16] <willcooke> thanks a lot renatu
[12:16] <willcooke> and seb128
[12:17] <seb128> yw!
[12:17] <willcooke> renatu, could you send me a link to the MIR once filed?
[12:17] <renatu> willcooke, https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/address-book-service/no-sync-dep/+merge/306090
[12:18] <renatu> willcooke, I will create a silo with it. to test
[12:18] <willcooke> renatu, ta.  Once you're happy please file an MIR bug to get a-b-s in too
[12:18] <willcooke> and lemme have a link for that too
[12:19] <seb128> renatu, willcooke, Recommends is not good enough, we are going to need to MIR/install recommends or downgrade them to suggests
[12:20] <renatu> seb128, ok
[12:20] <seb128> so we should directly go for a Suggests
[15:29] <Laney> I just wrote something that does $(basename "${HOME}")
[15:29]  * Laney sucks
[15:31] <Sweet5hark> evil
[15:38] <ogra_> yeah, you should grep /etc/passwd instead !
[15:38] <ogra_> :)
[15:43] <Laney> Another Quality Engineering Solution from CanonicalⓇ
[15:44] <ogra_> grep "${HOME}" /etc/passwd|cut -d: -f1
[15:44] <ogra_> for the beauty of it :)
[15:44]  * ogra_ giggles
[15:44] <Laney> that is actually more robust
[15:45] <Laney> the basename might not always be the username
[15:45] <ogra_> well, equally ugly
[15:45] <Laney> oh it's shit
[15:45] <Laney> but less buggy!
[15:45] <Laney> :)
[15:45] <ogra_> are there actual situations where you have $HOME but not $USER ?
[15:46] <Laney> dunno
[15:46] <Laney> I made it use id -un
[15:55] <desrt> i appear not to have $USER
[15:55] <desrt> (and i have $HOME)
[15:55] <Laney> unlucky
[15:55]  * Laney snuggles $USER
[15:56] <Laney> hi desrt!
[15:56] <desrt> hi laney :)
[15:56] <Laney> what's new?
[15:56] <desrt> not lots.  trying to get unpriv'd lxc working again.  it's not going too well.
[15:56] <desrt> cgroups suck so bad :(
[15:57] <desrt> the wild incompatibilities between cgroups v1 and v2 make the kernel developer's claims of taking backcompat seriously pretty laughable
[15:57] <desrt> and it's fine.... v1 was unfixable.... the break is worth it
[15:57] <desrt> i just wish that they'd stop pretending that they are better on this point than anyone else
[15:58]  * desrt watches Laney self-snuggle
[15:59] <Laney> first jeans day of the season today
[15:59] <Laney> huddling is more appropriate
[15:59] <desrt> i love colder!
[16:00]  * desrt has had more than enough summer
[16:02]  * desrt is targetted by an impressively advanced phishing scheme
[16:02] <desrt> i think someone got hold of the customer list of my dentist....
[16:05] <Laney> free scale and polish or you hit the news
[16:17] <desrt> it's my old dentist... and i just had a scale and polish last week :p