[00:01]  * ahoneybun puts a note down about fixing the Driver Manager for ZZ and backport to XX
[00:01] <ahoneybun> not I though
[00:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kopete build #60: FAILURE in 40 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kopete/60/
[00:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[00:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_merger build #670: FIXED in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_merger/670/
[00:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[00:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_progenitor build #651: FIXED in 24 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_progenitor/651/
[00:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_okular build #72: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_okular/72/
[00:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kopete build #38: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kopete/38/
[00:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkdepim build #28: STILL FAILING in 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkdepim/28/
[00:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kapptemplate build #72: FAILURE in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kapptemplate/72/
[01:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_grantleetheme build #23: FAILURE in 32 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_grantleetheme/23/
[01:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kopete build #61: NOW UNSTABLE in 38 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kopete/61/
[01:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[01:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kscreen build #124: FIXED in 33 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kscreen/124/
[01:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kactivitymanagerd build #106: STILL FAILING in 34 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kactivitymanagerd/106/
[01:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdevelop-pg-qt build #23: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdevelop-pg-qt/23/
[01:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kppp build #62: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kppp/62/
[01:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kstars build #111: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kstars/111/
[01:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kde-runtime build #151: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kde-runtime/151/
[01:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kde-runtime build #157: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kde-runtime/157/
[01:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdesdk-kioslaves build #58: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdesdk-kioslaves/58/
[02:12] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: report a bug?
[02:12] <tsimonq2> whoops
[02:12] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: report a bug?
[02:12] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: that way we have a place to track it
[02:12] <ahoneybun> it's been known
[02:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kauth build #133: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kauth/133/
[02:15] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: link to bug?
[02:16]  * ahoneybun walks out
[02:25] <tsimonq2> simple question...
[02:26] <ahoneybun> I don't have one
[02:26] <ahoneybun> and you know I don't
[02:30] <tsimonq2> no I don't!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!
 it's been known
[02:30] <tsimonq2> that makes me assume it's reported somewhere ^
[02:31] <ahoneybun> well acheronuk knows a command to fix it on a installed machine
[02:31] <ahoneybun> but I think shadeslayer wrote the program
[02:32] <valorie> he did
[02:32] <valorie> it would be good for someone to step up and become the maintainer
[02:36] <tsimonq2> of what?
[02:37] <valorie> Driver Manager
[02:37] <ahoneybun> I don't know one thing about it other then it being broken for 2 releases I think
[02:38] <ahoneybun> lovely someone forked my script
[02:38] <valorie> that's about right
[02:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kidletime build #256: STILL UNSTABLE in 26 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kidletime/256/
[02:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kde-runtime build #152: STILL FAILING in 53 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kde-runtime/152/
[02:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kde-runtime build #158: STILL FAILING in 53 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kde-runtime/158/
[03:30] <tsimonq2> night o/
[04:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kapptemplate build #73: STILL FAILING in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kapptemplate/73/
[05:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_umbrello build #61: FAILURE in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_umbrello/61/
[05:26] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_umbrello build #62: STILL FAILING in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_umbrello/62/
[05:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_akonadi build #170: STILL FAILING in 59 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_akonadi/170/
[05:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kactivitymanagerd build #107: STILL FAILING in 59 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kactivitymanagerd/107/
[06:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[06:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kscreen build #186: FIXED in 55 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kscreen/186/
[06:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_grantleetheme build #24: STILL FAILING in 27 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_grantleetheme/24/
[06:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kapptemplate build #199: FAILURE in 8 min 57 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kapptemplate/199/
[06:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kapptemplate build #200: STILL FAILING in 4 min 47 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kapptemplate/200/
[06:37] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_akonadi build #171: STILL FAILING in 49 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_akonadi/171/
[06:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_umbrello build #64: FAILURE in 17 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_umbrello/64/
[06:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_marble build #169: STILL FAILING in 22 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_marble/169/
[07:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kactivitymanagerd build #106: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 3 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kactivitymanagerd/106/
[07:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[07:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kontactinterface build #188: FIXED in 35 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kontactinterface/188/
[07:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_umbrello build #65: STILL FAILING in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_umbrello/65/
[07:16] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_marble build #170: STILL FAILING in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_marble/170/
 @sgclark, If I recall, 5.7.2 went into the archive ok with the same oranges
 I can double check that
 @sgclark, Ok. Thank you immensely for what you can do :)
 @tsimonq2, there were one or 2 about xapian and dbus messing up the driver manager info collection. was *meant* to be fixed in YY!
[07:24] <acheronuk> bug: #1282087
[07:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkdepim build #29: STILL FAILING in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkdepim/29/
[07:25] <acheronuk> bug: #1579834
[07:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_mailimporter build #28: STILL FAILING in 8 min 53 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_mailimporter/28/
[07:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_pimcommon build #49: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_pimcommon/49/
[07:40] <acheronuk> mamarley: can you comment on the FFe for frameworks if you have a sec? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/+bug/1625392
[07:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_okteta build #99: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 8 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_okteta/99/
[07:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdeconnect-kde build #48: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdeconnect-kde/48/
[07:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_grantleetheme build #61: FAILURE in 38 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_grantleetheme/61/
[07:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[07:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kwalletmanager build #179: FIXED in 39 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kwalletmanager/179/
[07:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kactivitymanagerd build #107: STILL FAILING in 36 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kactivitymanagerd/107/
[07:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdeconnect-kde build #57: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdeconnect-kde/57/
[07:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kmailtransport build #69: FAILURE in 42 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kmailtransport/69/
[07:56] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_mailimporter build #29: STILL FAILING in 17 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_mailimporter/29/
[07:59] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_pimcommon build #50: STILL FAILING in 18 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_pimcommon/50/
[08:00] <clivejo> acheronuk: so I have upgraded to the FW and Plasma in staging, looks good
[08:01] <acheronuk> clivejo: great :)
[08:01] <clivejo> have you guys a outstanding issues list?
[08:02] <acheronuk> I'm just going through the oranges in plasma and comparing those against the build logs from the 5.7.2 archive ones. Mostly is the same lintian warnings so far
[08:03] <acheronuk> I take it you mean a more general list?
[08:06] <clivejo> just what needs attention
[08:06] <clivejo> I been out of the loop
[08:08] <acheronuk> I shall have a ponder and put everything I know of on the ninja pad in a bit, if Simon hasn't already
[08:08] <clivejo> ok, Ill go get some breakie
[08:08] <clivejo> spend some time with the pup
[08:10] <acheronuk> For ref for any dev: Plasma 5.7.5 status vs the 5.7.2 archive builds that went through QA: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23206052/
[08:11] <clivejo> I updated the firmware on my Ubiquiti wireless bridge and things seem to be a bit more stable
[08:12]  * clivejo really wishes we could get kdevelop packages into YY
[08:12] <jimarvan> hey clivejo
[08:12] <clivejo> hi Jim
[08:12] <jimarvan> thanks acheronuk I will have a look after work :)
[08:12] <jimarvan> and goodmorning
[08:12] <clivejo> good morning to you too
[08:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_ktp-common-internals build #115: STILL UNSTABLE in 59 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_ktp-common-internals/115/
[08:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_ktp-common-internals build #188: STILL UNSTABLE in 58 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_ktp-common-internals/188/
[08:13]  * clivejo has chainsaw prepped and ready for some hacking
[08:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_akonadi-contacts build #35: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 0 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_akonadi-contacts/35/
[08:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_okteta build #107: STILL UNSTABLE in 58 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_okteta/107/
[08:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kstars build #236: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 0 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kstars/236/
[08:14] <jimarvan> :)
[08:18] <acheronuk> santa_: LP finally cleared up staging apps: 19.9 GiB (79.67%) of 25.0 GiB
[08:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdepim-apps-libs build #60: STILL FAILING in 25 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdepim-apps-libs/60/
[08:26] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libgravatar build #21: STILL FAILING in 26 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libgravatar/21/
[08:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_okteta build #100: STILL FAILING in 44 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_okteta/100/
[08:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libgravatar build #22: STILL FAILING in 8 min 30 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libgravatar/22/
[08:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdepim-apps-libs build #61: STILL FAILING in 9 min 34 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdepim-apps-libs/61/
[08:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdevelop build #11: FAILURE in 9 min 2 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdevelop/11/
[08:56] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdevelop build #12: STILL FAILING in 8 min 25 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdevelop/12/
[08:58] <acheronuk> bug: #1600047
[09:03] <acheronuk> clivejo: See YY state of play section on Ninja pad. bet there is stuff I've forgotten, but hey....
[09:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_discover build #31: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_discover/31/
[09:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kmailtransport build #70: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 6 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kmailtransport/70/
[09:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_akonadi build #252: FAILURE in 1 hr 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_akonadi/252/
[09:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[09:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kcalcore build #176: FIXED in 1 hr 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kcalcore/176/
[09:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_ktp-auth-handler build #116: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_ktp-auth-handler/116/
[09:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_grantleetheme build #62: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 8 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_grantleetheme/62/
[09:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kleopatra build #48: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kleopatra/48/
[09:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_akonadi-contacts build #36: STILL FAILING in 48 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_akonadi-contacts/36/
[09:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_ktp-auth-handler build #163: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_ktp-auth-handler/163/
[09:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_messagelib build #93: STILL FAILING in 7 min 8 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_messagelib/93/
[09:15] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_calendarsupport build #35: STILL FAILING in 9 min 27 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_calendarsupport/35/
[09:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_messagelib build #94: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_messagelib/94/
[09:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_calendarsupport build #36: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_calendarsupport/36/
[09:35] <acheronuk> santa_: uploaded those apps from git just a sec ago
[09:37] <santa_> acheronuk: I was going to. which ones have you uploaded?
[09:38] <acheronuk> all that needed to according to the status page and update in the packaging git
[09:39] <acheronuk> sorry, for some reason although I pinged you, I didn't think you were going to be around this morning
[09:43] <acheronuk> santa_: didn't mean to step on toes
[09:43] <santa_> no prob
[09:46] <acheronuk> there is a "Yakkety Yak state of play;" section on https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas please add to or amend if I have missed anything
[09:48] <acheronuk> santa_: everything built I think. just need to wait for publishing, then status page
[10:02] <acheronuk> No red, and much more green :D http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.3_yakkety.html
[10:03] <acheronuk> santa_: merges from debian still to do?
[10:07] <acheronuk> that is just kdepim-addons and libkf5grantleetheme if I am not mistaken
[10:09] <mamarley> acheronuk: Done. :)
[10:09] <acheronuk> mamarley: thank you :)
[10:20] <santa_> acheronuk: yes, please don't mess with them I will fix them in a few mins
[10:21] <acheronuk> santa_: no, I wasn't planning to on those
[10:21] <acheronuk> just keeping track for clive/simon etc
[10:26] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_grantleetheme build #76: FAILURE in 20 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_grantleetheme/76/
[10:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_grantleetheme build #77: STILL FAILING in 17 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_grantleetheme/77/
[10:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_discover build #32: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 31 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_discover/32/
[10:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_akonadi build #253: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 31 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_akonadi/253/
 Firefox 49 released :)
 o/
 @acheronuk, +1
 @marcinsagol, I'm waiting for 50 beta 1, to fix the GTK probs in Yakkety
 @acheronuk, Nope
 I'm using Vivaldi for some time already, FF as a backup
 We probably won't get apps in
 Unless a Kubuntu Developer pops in
 Even then...
 @marcinsagol, I have that, but still use FF. developer at the moment, to bypass those GTK bugs I mentioned
[10:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdevelop build #13: FAILURE in 6 min 58 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdevelop/13/
 @tsimonq2, we can only try...
[10:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_discover build #28: STILL FAILING in 7 min 44 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_discover/28/
 @acheronuk, FFe can still be approved during beta freeze and after. just not actually uploaded during
[10:55] <mparillo> Last weekend, I reported that the three YY -staging PPAs made the top of my Libre Office Writer ugly on my hope laptop. Yesterday, I could not duplicate that in a VM running on my office laptop. I believe the ugliness has nothing at all to do with the -staging PPAs because I tried this morning with today's YY ISO, and the ugliness is there. I wonder if something changed in the display drivers from XX to YY.
 @mparillo, have you a screenshot?
[11:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_marble build #205: STILL FAILING in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_marble/205/
[11:00] <mparillo> I can take one. Let me boot into my YY partition. But for me, I think we are ruling out a kubuntu packaging error. And I could always go to Kalligra writer if they ever allow me to save as a .doc
[11:02] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:03] <tsimonq2> o/ BluesKaj 
[11:03] <BluesKaj> hi tsimonq2
[11:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdevelop build #14: STILL FAILING in 5 min 34 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdevelop/14/
[11:04] <santa_> acheronuk: probaby this must be reverted and the orange overriden in the status page
[11:04] <tsimonq2> santa_: I don't think we can do that
[11:04] <tsimonq2> santa_: you would have to override the orange itself
[11:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_discover build #29: STILL FAILING in 5 min 54 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_discover/29/
[11:05] <santa_> because kde-baseapps is based on old kdelibs, not frameworks
[11:05] <acheronuk> santa_: 'this'?
[11:05] <santa_> acheronuk: https://paste.kde.org/puutbek99
[11:06] <acheronuk> santa_: right
[11:08] <acheronuk> santa_: so added to lintian-ignore.json ?
[11:09] <acheronuk> ummm. oh. cmake
[11:09] <santa_> yes
[11:11] <acheronuk> I can see why now (some time since I did that), so ok to go with it? once tested of course
[11:12] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=6k1e5rq45m1bdqq0n1ge3oqaok%40group.calendar.google.com
[11:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kleopatra build #79: FAILURE in 14 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kleopatra/79/
[11:14] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: yes? for what precisely?
[11:14] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: patch pilot
[11:14] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: if it comes to it, you could ask someone on today's Patch Pilot
[11:15] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: I know what is is now. just not sure which issue you are pushing that forward for?
[11:15] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: oh, just general release team bothering
[11:15] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: I'm saying it's there if you find *nobody* to upload
[11:15] <mparillo> Ugly Libre Office on YY: http://imgur.com/a/xluVQ Note I have tried changing themes.
[11:16] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: and that's not all release team BTW
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[11:16] <tsimonq2> ^
[11:16] <tsimonq2> I did that
[11:16] <tsimonq2> anyways
[11:16] <tsimonq2> be back in a bit, I gotta get ready for school
[11:16] <mparillo> BTW, I had to install kde-spectacle. 
[11:17] <acheronuk> mparillo: Eek! and the eek! again. didn't get that in a VM
[11:18] <BluesKaj> hmm, Xenial is supposedly stable, but konversation just crashed 
[11:19] <mparillo> acheronuk: Exactly. So it works in a VM, it works on XX, so I wonder if some kind of driver changed for YY, or is the version of Libre Office (or its configs) changed for YY in such a way that it does not play nicely with KDE. 
[11:19] <BluesKaj> and the crash notifier crashed too :-)
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[11:20] <mparillo> For example, some apps try too hard to reach down the display stack.
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[11:20] <acheronuk> mparillo: I would guess either driver/card issue, or a bug in the libreoffice KDE/QT VCL
[11:21] <acheronuk> or both
[11:22] <mparillo> I suspect it is an updated driver for YY. I have noticed flickering on YY that I never saw on XX.
[11:23] <acheronuk> what driver is this?
[11:23] <mparillo> Some kind of video driver. 
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[11:24] <acheronuk> I mean intel, nvidia, nouveau, whatever....?
[11:24] <mparillo> How can I tell?
[11:27] <acheronuk> glxinfo | grep -i vendor
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[11:29] <mparillo> client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI     Vendor: Intel Open Source Technology Center (0x8086)
[11:29] <acheronuk> hello pitti
[11:30] <acheronuk> mparillo: so you have intel graphics. debian and now ubuntu want to dump the drivers for that and fall back to modesetting
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[11:31] <acheronuk> so intel driver bug, or a libreoffice VCL one I would guess
[11:33] <mparillo> If you had to guess, is that a Ubuntu bug (Launchpad)?
[11:36] <acheronuk> if I *had* to guess I would say upstream, but it would only be a low probability guess. 60:40 or something
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/+bug/1625392/comments/5
 YAY! :D
[11:40] <acheronuk> thank you pitti :)
[11:41] <pitti> acheronuk: well, I didn't do anythign really -- just pointed out the obvious :)
[11:41] <jimarvan> :)
 But he approved it
 So he did something ;)
[11:42] <acheronuk> pitti: yes, and we would have avoided needing even that if we hadn't end up a bit stuck with a lack of devs who have the time
 Again, now we just need uploaders
[11:43] <acheronuk> pitti: ideally we would like an FFe for new KDE applications as well, as they are a year old, but I guess that could be a step too far
 Well that's a lot of packages
[11:45] <acheronuk> indeed
 Around 200 afair
[11:46] <santa_> 206
 sgclark: we're free to upload Frameworks. Could you please do that?
[11:47] <acheronuk> bug: #1600047
[11:48] <acheronuk> needs sorting if no apps FFe ^^^
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[11:49] <acheronuk> but it is going to look BAD if we are stuck on ancient applications!
 I agree
 pitti: what's your opinion? Could we upload that as well? Or would you rather just bugs like acheronuk listed?
[11:52] <mparillo> acheronuk: Thank you for your help. If https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1625595 has to go upstream, I hope somebody on Launchpad can guess where better than I could.
[11:53] <acheronuk> mparillo: great. if it is upstream, someone will surely push it in that direction
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[11:56] <santa_> sgclark: as simon said the ffe for frameworks was approved. please ping me _before_ doing that. thanks in advance :)
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[11:56] <santa_> that = uploading frameworks 5.26
[12:00] <acheronuk> so I guess we need to submit a FFe for the apps and hope and pray?
[12:01] <acheronuk> .
[12:01] <acheronuk> whoops
[12:02] <santa_> yes
[12:02] <acheronuk> santa_: reverted that change on kde-baseapps and pushed/uploaded
 I think so
[12:02] <santa_> ok
 I was hoping pitti could give his opinion, as it's a major FFe really close to release
[12:02] <acheronuk> santa_: can you double check I didn't mess up cmake-ignore.json
[12:04] <santa_> hmmm
[12:04] <acheronuk> if would be good if pitti could give some thoughts. I'm a bit at sea with this
 Me too
 Like you said, it's old software that should really get an update
 But it's close to release :/
[12:06] <santa_> acheronuk: fixed missing comma in that json
[12:06] <santa_> about apps we should really get 16.04.3
[12:06] <santa_> shame we don't have upload permissions
[12:06] <acheronuk> apps would have gone in a fair bit before feature freeze, if not for dev availability probs I think
[12:07] <acheronuk> santa_: thanks. was so concerned about getting format right, that I missed the comma!
 I agree fully
[12:08] <acheronuk> we had in 95% done, then it just sat there for eons
[12:10]  * acheronuk dares not contemplate the slideshow
[12:12] <mamarley> I have also been using those staged apps for quite a while without any problems.
[12:13] <acheronuk> I have since they were 1st staged!
 So they're good to upload, no major problems
[12:15] <acheronuk> 1st on backports, and then on yakkety. so 16.0.4.3 since July.
 Let's say I work with Debian to get all the latest of everything in testing. I assume it will sync as soon as Z is open for development?
[12:18] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: not sure if those auto-sync or if someone has to prod them if they are wanted
 Well let's make sure to do that as soon as Z is open for development
 Like ASAP
 No more of this bs
 Z will be an exciting cycle for Lubuntu, so my time will be divided, but still
 Kubuntu 17.04 would ship with Plasma 5.8.6
 Fun stuff
 Well I'm off, turning off phone as it didn't charge overnight
 o/
[12:22] <acheronuk> I shall wait to see if pitti can comment, but if not I think put in the apps FFe this evening (my time) anyway?
[12:24] <acheronuk> clivejo: if you should pop in, have you an opinion on that ^^^
[12:25] <acheronuk> or anyone for that matter....
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[12:27] <acheronuk> BBL
[12:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[12:29] <pitti> acheronuk: /away -all
[12:29] <pitti> updating leaf applications is usually a lot less risky than central libraries, they can be tested a lot easier and comprehensively
[12:29] <pitti> acheronuk: sorry, that formatting came out a bit wrong :)
[12:30] <acheronuk> ok. not quite gone yet anyway :P
[12:33] <acheronuk> pitti: so there is a chance. sgclarke said we would need a kubuntu dev to review and claim responsibility, and she was likely too busy. are you saying that is not as much as blocker as that, or just not such a big deal for the release team to OK should someone do that for us?
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[12:34] <pitti> acheronuk: I consider the Kubuntu team self-sustaining in deciding which packages they want to update when; it makes little sense to interfere there as nobody else on the release team has much clue about it
[12:36] <acheronuk> pitti: so it still comes down to finding a kubuntu dev to vouch for them. something we are struggling very much with :/
[12:37] <acheronuk> I guess can put the FFe in anyway?
[12:38] <acheronuk> pitti: I'm pretty brand new to this aspect, so sorry for all the what may be obvious questions 
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[13:06] <jimarvan> pitti: problem is that after summer it has been a bit frenitic with our jobs... :/
[13:06] <jimarvan> myself I want to work on the installer so I can fix the demonstration rolling during installation but with the WAKO welsh championships and with work...
[13:06] <jimarvan> it has become so difficult
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[14:01] <jimarvan> hmm I seem to have problems again with the wallet system :(
[14:02] <jimarvan> it keeps asking me the password for kwallet every time I login now, anyone else has the same issue?
[14:04] <yofel> sounds like something going wrong with pam_kwallet5 and sddm
[14:06] <marco-parillo> jimarvan: I have had that from time to time. It seems to resolve itself eventually, and I was never able to figure out why. I tend to suspect wireless networking, but I could never really isolate it. In any case, I have not had it lately on YY plus -staging or XX plus -backports
[14:07] <jimarvan> hmm
[14:07] <jimarvan> yofel: absolutely right on that one :/
[14:07] <jimarvan> marco-parillo: same exact thing
[14:08] <jimarvan> I think the whole issue started since I disconnected the wired networking and started using wi-fi
[14:08] <jimarvan> now I am using wired again, but still I kept been asked the kwallet pass :/
[14:08] <jimarvan> I am with backports
[14:08] <jimarvan> on xx
[14:10] <jimarvan> I tried to change the kwallet to a custom made one, did not help much
[14:10] <blaze> jimarvan: it's because akonadi is asking a password when accessing resources i.e. on login
[14:10] <jimarvan> blaze: is it possible to get it back to automatic login?
[14:11] <blaze> jimarvan: leave kwallet's master-password blank
[14:11] <blaze> that's the only way I know
[14:12] <jimarvan> oooooh .... :O
[14:12] <jimarvan> :(
[14:12] <jimarvan> that's not very nice
[14:12] <jimarvan> :D
[14:12] <blaze> :)
[14:12] <jimarvan> haha
[14:12] <jimarvan> hmm but is it blank on install too?
[14:12] <jimarvan> when you fresh install?
[14:13] <blaze> yes, I think so
[14:13] <jimarvan> oh well... I will give it a try... I think there must be an effort there, to link the kubuntu user account login to the kwallet...
[14:15] <blaze> jimarvan: another possible solution is to use gpg-encrypted wallet and then mess a bit with gpg-agent
[14:15] <jimarvan> I did that
[14:15] <jimarvan> did not work :/
[14:16] <acheronuk> o/ yofel
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[14:27] <jimarvan> and rebooting to see if the blank password works (which it should... ;) )
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[15:39] <jimarvan> brb
[15:43] <jimarvan> yeap using a blank password in kwallet worked
[15:43] <jimarvan> oh well
[15:44] <jimarvan> see ya later guys :) thanks for the advice!!!
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 +1 acheronuk, I really don't know much about Kubuntu's release cadence besides the standard Ubuntu policies
 Thank you for your time pitti
 (passing time, using my phone, o/)
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[17:36] <acheronuk> santa_: anything in apps left to fix?
[17:37] <santa_> acheronuk: nothing 100% required
[17:37] <santa_> the important stuff seems already done
[17:38] <acheronuk> santa_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23208034/
[17:38] <acheronuk> maybe....?
[17:41] <santa_> I think the previous ffe's were done against meta-kde, but I guess it's fine
[17:41] <santa_> I don't have much experience with ffe's, but it seems fine
[17:42] <acheronuk> the meta one was against the whole KDE suite, so I guess makes sense for that
[17:43] <acheronuk> this is against one component, and clive said he thought to just pick one important part of it (such as KDEpim) and file against that.
[17:50] <santa_> I'm fixing something in libksane
[17:52] <acheronuk> santa_: no prob. I would like to get clivejo opinion if possible anyway if he's should be about soon
[18:18] <acheronuk> bug: #1625756
[18:48] <acheronuk> beta freeze is imminent. release team had not added, as they apparently usually do, that actual freeze is 1 or 2 days ahead of the date in the release schedule
[18:49] <valorie> !
[18:49] <valorie> that would not be cool!
[18:50] <acheronuk> [19:25] <infinity> wxl: RCs and freezing and such will happen soonish.  We've been trying to squeeze a kernel in under the wire.
[18:50] <acheronuk> [19:25] <wxl> infinity: works for me. thx!
[18:50] <acheronuk> [19:25] <infinity> apw: ^ what's the status on that?
[18:50] <acheronuk> [19:34] * jbicha has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
[18:50] <acheronuk> [19:36] <acheronuk> so in reality actual beta freeze is in advance of the date here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule
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[18:50] <acheronuk> [19:41] <infinity> acheronuk: The freeze obviously has to happen before the release, the schedule just seems to be missing the usual (Mon) or (Tue) to indicate that the freeze isn't on Thursday.  Oops.
[18:51] <valorie> gah
[18:52] <acheronuk> I guess the devs we lack would no that without having to be told :(
[18:52] <acheronuk> *would know
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[18:55] <valorie> we lack *right now* -- we will have them soon
[18:55] <valorie> just not soon enough for the beta freeze
[18:55]  * valorie remains hopeful
[18:57] <acheronuk> valorie: to be realistic, even if all the stuff we want was uploaded in the next 10 mins, there is no guarantee it would make it out of 'proposed' in time for the betas to be spun
[18:58] <valorie> yes
[18:58] <valorie> sgclark wisely chose to focus on the libraries
[18:58] <valorie> plasma I hope we can get in after the freeze
[18:58] <acheronuk> and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BetaFreeze
[18:58] <acheronuk> "Once the BetaRelease is shipped, we roll back to FeatureFreeze and UserInterfaceFreeze status. "
[18:58] <valorie> and perhaps the apps too, or at least all those that build and run
[18:58] <acheronuk> indeed
[18:59] <valorie> ok, as much as I do not want to restart, I think I have to
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[19:03] <valorie> funky man, I'm upgrading 427 packages
[19:06] <acheronuk> if people using apps can comment on bug #1625756 that would be great. for if, or preferably when, we do get someone with superpowers to review them
[19:11] <valorie> thanks for doing the paperwork, acheronuk
[19:12] <acheronuk> I figured if it's in, it can get amended if needed. If it doesn't go in, chances of it happening go from low(ish) to zero
[19:27] <santa_> acheronuk: I'm going to try to fix something in discover
[19:27] <santa_> (I'm testing the dist-upgrades from xenial)
[20:41] <tsimonq2> hello
[20:41] <tsimonq2> one nice walk home and clean shave later, I'm here! :D
[20:42] <clivejo> hi Simon
[20:50] <tsimonq2> we have someone uploading All The Things yet?
[20:50] <clivejo> no idea
[20:51] <valorie> not that I've seen
[20:51] <valorie> have yet to hear from Mirv or Phil
[20:51] <acheronuk> evening
[20:52] <clivejo> valorie: did you get my PM?
[20:53] <valorie> I did, and replied
[20:53]  * clivejo rolls eyes
[20:53] <valorie> although my connection was a bit dodgy and so I restarted
[20:54] <valorie> yes, I'll hold your hand, you romantic Irishman!
[20:54] <valorie> lol
[20:54] <clivejo> my bnc has been playing up too
[20:54] <clivejo> is there something wrong with it?
[20:55] <acheronuk> not so far today
[20:57] <valorie> it wasn't the bnc -- I was connected here, but not to linuxchix or rootsweb
[20:57] <valorie> and some webpages wouldn't load
[20:57] <valorie> not clear what the issue was, but it had been weeks since last restart
[20:58]  * acheronuk glances at him uptime
[20:58] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-GT60-2PC': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.7.2 on Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) powered by Linux 4.4.0-9134-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4810MQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 3410-3622/3800 MHz, RAM: 18199/24030 MB, Storage: 325/967 GB, 323 procs, 1.96h up
[20:58] <valorie> so short....
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[21:03] <tsimonq2> acheronuk, clivejo: I haz idea. https://etherpad.net/p/nLzpiHIArT
[21:04] <valorie> be aware though, we still have to have someone upload the stuff
[21:04] <valorie> unsure if any of the release team would have time for *that*
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[21:19] <tsimonq2> clivejo, acheronuk: could you read it over and make any corrections? https://etherpad.net/p/nLzpiHIArT
[21:19] <tsimonq2> then sign at the bottom?
[21:21] <clivejo> is Apps 16.04.3 ready?
[21:21] <tsimonq2> clivejo: everything is staged, so yes
[21:21] <tsimonq2> and people have been testing for weeks now....
[21:22] <clivejo> oh, ignore me
[21:22] <clivejo> dyslexic moment
[21:23] <tsimonq2> I have to go, be back in like 10 mins
[21:23] <tsimonq2> but please look it over
[21:33] <tsimonq2> back
[21:34] <tsimonq2> hmmm
[21:38] <acheronuk> will in a bit
[21:38] <valorie> that sounds well-written, simon
[21:38] <tsimonq2> cool acheronuk 
[21:39] <tsimonq2> thanks valorie :)
[21:48] <clivejo> tsimonq2: what are you expecting from this?
[21:48] <tsimonq2> clivejo: release team gives a thumbs up, someone from the community uploads
[21:49] <tsimonq2> (or on the release team, whoever wants to upload)
[21:49] <clivejo> I guess its worth a try :/
[21:49] <tsimonq2> I know
[21:49] <clivejo> wont be holding my breath
[21:50] <tsimonq2> me neither
[21:51] <tsimonq2> clivejo: jot your name and IRC nick at the bottom when you think it's good to go
[21:51] <clivejo> I dont think it will make any difference whos names on there
[21:51] <tsimonq2> I do
[21:52] <tsimonq2> people have seen you around, at the very least on this channel
[21:52] <clivejo> the amount of packages we need uploaded is just too many and noone will take that on :(
[21:52] <valorie> I do too
[21:52] <valorie> I will sign
[21:52] <valorie> the more of us stand behind the request, IMO the better
[21:52] <tsimonq2> valorie: it's sort of, "we're asking for help and we agree to pick up errors"
[21:52] <tsimonq2> so I think a response just saying +1 would be good
[21:52] <tsimonq2> (just my opinion, and the way I worded it)
[21:53] <clivejo> have we a list of people who have tested these new packages?
[21:54] <clivejo> Ive updated my machine to whats in staging frameworks and plasma
[21:54] <clivejo> and so far no issues
[21:55] <tsimonq2> clivejo: not specifically, but I know acheronuk and mamarley and others have been
[21:55] <tsimonq2> me too, although I primarily use LXQt
[22:01] <acheronuk> valorie: your blog post got nothing moving?
[22:01] <tsimonq2> nope, I don't think so
[22:02] <valorie> I asked people to show up here
[22:02] <valorie> they have not, so far
[22:02] <acheronuk> :(
[22:03] <tsimonq2> there's a user named bipul, nice guy, hangs out in ##tsimonq2, he wanted to get started with Ubuntu Development a few months ago
[22:03] <tsimonq2> pinged him earlier and asked him to hop on here
[22:03] <tsimonq2> I think some of valorie's wizard power is rubbing off on me ;)
[22:04] <valorie> nice
[22:04] <valorie> he can't upload though
[22:04] <valorie> lol
[22:04] <tsimonq2> I know
 but more development help! :D
[22:05] <acheronuk> signed, but I'm not hopeful on that
[22:06] <valorie> it's an attempt
[22:07] <tsimonq2> exactly my thought
[22:07] <tsimonq2> it's something
[22:07] <tsimonq2> valorie: should I send now or should I wait?
[22:08] <valorie> would be nice to have phil sign it
[22:09] <valorie> and scarlett
[22:09] <valorie> yofel: sgclark ^^^
[22:09] <valorie>  https://etherpad.net/p/nLzpiHIArT
[22:11] <tsimonq2> should be done ASAP though
[22:11] <valorie> give it an hour
[22:12] <acheronuk> santa_: get anywhere with discover?
[22:12] <tsimonq2> ok valorie 
[22:14] <clivejo> acheronuk: whats he doing to discover?
[22:14] <acheronuk> what is 7pm (West) for core meeting? is that same as BST (UDT+1)?
[22:15] <acheronuk> clivejo: Looking dist upgrades from Xenial, so I guess there is still the issue of discover-common being help back on upgrade?
 Thats fixed in git and staging
[22:17] <acheronuk> santa_: Great :)
[22:18] <valorie> santa_: I'm a bit behind -- have you set a date for your meeting yet?
[22:18] <acheronuk> UTC I meant earlier
 We got the doodle with data from 4 persons
 I would pick the monday 25
 What do you think?
[22:19] <valorie> ok, I'll send a response asking for more people to respond
[22:19] <valorie> sounds good to me
[22:19] <tsimonq2> Doodle? :O
[22:19] <valorie> for his membership meeting
[22:20] <tsimonq2> I know I can't really vote but at least I might be able to attend ;)
[22:20] <valorie> we need to get that done
[22:20] <acheronuk> or lurk
[22:20] <valorie> lurkers welcome
[22:20] <valorie> recommendations on wiki pages welcome
[22:20] <valorie> etc
[22:20] <valorie> we run in the open here
[22:22] <acheronuk> Not necessarily right now, but I need some council members to take a look at my wiki page and give an honest opinion on when they think I can fairly say my 6 months runs to for that.
[22:22] <valorie> I think you worked most closely with clivejo, so I would trust him on that
[22:22] <tsimonq2> could I get a link?
[22:23] <tsimonq2> (to the Doodle)
[22:23] <valorie>     I think he just sent it to council members
[22:23] <acheronuk> http://doodle.com/poll/iu9e6xnfgubt9fqq
[22:24] <acheronuk> I think
[22:24] <valorie> but we'll announce the date in advance
[22:24] <valorie> everybody is welcome to meetings, and they are usually in here
[22:24]  * acheronuk forgets clivejo is now council!
[22:25]  * clivejo forgets too!
[22:25] <valorie> well, even if he wasn't
[22:25] <clivejo> and I cant find the doodle invite
[22:26] <valorie> acheronuk's link is good
[22:27] <tsimonq2> You need an invitation in order to participate in this poll.
[22:27] <tsimonq2> Please contact José Manuel Santamaría Lema if you wish to participate.
[22:27] <tsimonq2> Show all 130 options
[22:27] <valorie> 130 options was a bit much
[22:27] <valorie> but if we can narrow it down, it's ok
[22:27] <clivejo> oh shoot
[22:27] <acheronuk> santa replied to me on telegram a few mins ago, so asking via that if he has the link
[22:28] <clivejo> thats already past
[22:28] <clivejo> I found the link
[22:28] <tsimonq2> where clivejo?
[22:28] <clivejo> just being stupid and saying I can attend a date in the past
[22:28] <acheronuk> doodle time travel!
[22:29] <clivejo> grrr
[22:29] <clivejo> why does it keep expanding
[22:32] <clivejo> I _think_ I have said Im free on Thursday or Sun
[22:32] <valorie> there is an art to setting up a doodle poll
[22:33] <valorie> and I'll tell you, it does not work with family AT ALL
[22:33] <valorie> only geeks get it
[22:33] <valorie> and even we struggle with it
[22:33]  * clivejo is not a geek
[22:34] <clivejo> who are the 8 intendees?
[22:34] <tsimonq2> except I'm not a geek, I live and breath computers, I'm always responsive on IRC
[22:34]  * acheronuk think clivejo is in denial
[22:35] <tsimonq2> I'm _always_ here :P
[22:35] <valorie> for sure
[22:35] <clivejo> mmmm
[22:35] <valorie> I can attest to that
[22:35] <clivejo> no git trigger for plasma-discover
[22:36] <clivejo> I thought Simon lived here
[22:37] <clivejo> any ninja want to setup a trigger for plasma-discover?
[22:37] <santa_> tsimonq2: I have edited a bit the first paragraph
[22:37] <clivejo> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-discover/+webhooks
[22:38] <santa_> tsimonq2: because the way it was written it seems we don't have developers, but we do! I never worked with so many people in other linux distributions
[22:38] <tsimonq2> santa_: ok
[22:39] <valorie> well, we lack Kubuntu Developers now
[22:39] <valorie> but devels, yes, we have lots!
[22:39] <santa_> with title
[22:39] <valorie> yup
[22:39] <tsimonq2> clivejo: what do I have to do?
[22:39]  * valorie hopes we start expanding that soon
[22:39] <tsimonq2> clivejo: what webhook?
[22:39] <acheronuk> clivejo: copied another webhook, so guess it is right now
[22:39] <santa_> yes, I wanted to outline that, to not give the false impressions that kubuntu is understaffed
[22:40] <clivejo> make sure its poking the right project
[22:40] <tsimonq2> valorie: in 2 years I betcha santa_ acheronuk clivejo and me will either be Kubuntu Developers, or Real Life will happen
[22:40] <santa_> lets hope
[22:40] <santa_> regarding the doodle poll I should have made it public, I take note for the furture
[22:40] <santa_> I will try to send you and invitation Simon
[22:40] <santa_> * an
[22:40] <valorie> 2 years!
[22:41] <santa_> I hope in less time we will get there
[22:41] <tsimonq2> santa_: tsimonq2@ubuntu.com
[22:41] <clivejo> cant think 2 weeks ahead, never mind two years!
[22:41] <valorie> I'm hoping for weeks for clivejo and santa
[22:41] <valorie> maybe months
[22:41] <valorie> acheronuk right behind, and you right behind that
[22:41] <tsimonq2> if I continue to live here, that might be me too :P
[22:42]  * clivejo wonders if temp upload permissions can be granted
[22:42] <tsimonq2> ^
[22:42] <tsimonq2> yeah
[22:43] <santa_> tsimonq2: check your mail, got the invitation?
[22:43] <valorie> that I do not know
[22:43] <tsimonq2> santa_: yes siree
[22:43] <santa_> I have to create that one for symbols, but I have been busy
[22:45] <valorie> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Developers <--- the bible
[22:46]  * tsimonq2 bows down
[22:46] <tsimonq2> MY LORD, WHAT AREE YOU DOING HERE???
[22:47] <tsimonq2> valorie: I want to send, they will freeze soon
[22:47] <valorie> I did not realize fabo was a KD
[22:47] <valorie> ok, send
[22:47] <tsimonq2> alright
[22:47] <clivejo> so impatient!
[22:48] <tsimonq2> well I live here, while y'all have lives I'm just waiting :PPPP
[22:48] <acheronuk> Scarlett's dev meeting. Only one I have tracked down so far https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/11/06/%23ubuntu-meeting.html
[22:50] <valorie> acheronuk: if you look at https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/+members#active you can see the day they became members, and look at the logs for that day
[22:50] <valorie> rather laborious though
[22:51] <valorie> if you find links like you did above, please send them to the list so the other proposed devels can study up
[22:51] <tsimonq2> sent
[22:51] <valorie> of course tsimonq2 has proposed that it's too easy and we need to make it harder
[22:51] <valorie> lol
[22:51] <acheronuk> valorie: I did, most of it doesn't seem to tally on dates for some reson I haven't worked out yet
[22:52] <valorie> boo
[22:52] <clivejo> tsimonq2 needs a slap from a trout
[22:52] <valorie> perhaps it took a day or two
[22:53] <tsimonq2> yes, that's good
[22:53] <acheronuk> Scarlet: Meeting date = 2014-11-06 date on LP = 2014-02-13
[22:53] <tsimonq2> make me be online for 24 hours straight and throw me random tasks
[22:54] <tsimonq2> hard ones, too
[22:54] <valorie> yikes
[22:54] <valorie> that's bad for your health
[22:54] <valorie> my floor needs to be vacuumed though
[22:54] <tsimonq2> I've done 36 hours before
[22:54] <valorie> fly here and do that
[22:54] <tsimonq2> LOL
[22:55] <tsimonq2> haven't gone 48, that's on my bucket list. Then I'm legally declared insane. I'll get to hop on here and say, "ok, I'm now legally insane, time to upload a bunch of things to the archive"
[22:55] <tsimonq2> :P
[22:56] <tsimonq2> hehehehehehehe
[22:56] <tsimonq2> I'll just let dput run in the background, I'll go to sleep :P
[22:57] <clivejo> ok finally got into the wiki
[22:57] <clivejo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/clivejo/DeveloperApplication
[22:58] <valorie> \o/
[22:58]  * acheronuk cheers
[22:59] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: look at your wiki page
[22:59] <acheronuk> oh god. what now
[22:59] <valorie> good start, clivejo
[22:59] <tsimonq2> I, Clive Johnston, apply for <upload rights for Kubuntu package(s)>. - remove the < and >
[22:59] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: I updated clivejo's testimonial ;)
[23:00] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: hmph! so you did...
[23:00] <tsimonq2> LOL
[23:00] <clivejo> you did what now?
[23:00] <tsimonq2> clivejo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RikMills
[23:01] <valorie> that is the immediate need, but being a Developer is more than just uploading
[23:01] <tsimonq2> valorie: you should take a look too :P
[23:01] <valorie> it's like being one of the owners of a business, in that it is your baby
[23:02] <tsimonq2> valorie: except the employee in training can't get the keys to the store, even though the store is slowly catching on fire
[23:02]  * tsimonq2 runs
[23:02] <tsimonq2> I win :P
[23:02] <valorie> the people doing the opening and closing usually have the keys
[23:02] <valorie> my son did, when he managed office depot
[23:03] <tsimonq2> well not in the store you're talking about!
[23:03] <valorie> and we're not catching fire, except in the good ways!
[23:03] <valorie> honestly, I've been involved for many years, and it's awesome the energy here now
[23:03] <valorie> haven't seen it like this for years
[23:04] <tsimonq2> no, but our products are expired, and we need to restock before the tourists come in :P
[23:04] <valorie> we do
[23:04] <tsimonq2> COME ON, you gotta give me that one!
[23:04] <valorie> we are temporarily embarassed, indeed
[23:04] <acheronuk> new blood
[23:04] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: that's how belkinsa describes it
[23:04] <acheronuk> after erm... spilled blood
[23:04] <valorie> lol
[23:05] <tsimonq2> she's told me more than once, "we need new blood!"
[23:05] <tsimonq2> :P
[23:05] <tsimonq2> y'all know Svetlana? friend of mine :)
[23:05] <valorie> yes
[23:05] <valorie> from Ubuntu Women
[23:06] <tsimonq2> oic
[23:06] <valorie> we do welcome men there, by the way
[23:07] <valorie> got your CC, thanks simon
[23:07]  * tsimonq2 nods
[23:07] <tsimonq2> great :)
[23:08]  * acheronuk wonders what will go in the podcast tomorrow
[23:10] <tsimonq2> not me...
[23:11] <tsimonq2> why do people do things while I go learn things?!?!!! :P
[23:11] <acheronuk> Geometry is important :P
[23:12] <valorie> learning things IS doing things
[23:15] <clivejo> acheronuk: BTW the webhook for discover
[23:15] <clivejo> did you test it?
[23:16] <acheronuk> sorry. go distracted, how to test?
[23:17]  * clivejo wonders if there is a way to check if all our repos have a webhook
[23:18] <clivejo> well a change in git just trigger it
[23:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_discover build #33: STILL FAILING in 35 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_discover/33/
[23:20] <acheronuk> A script to go through and check them via the API?? https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/1.0.html#webhook
[23:23] <tsimonq2> I'm pausing KCI
[23:23] <tsimonq2> just an FYI
[23:23] <shadeslayer> tsimonq2: if you point me to a tar of everything, I can do the upload
[23:23] <tsimonq2> :O o/ shadeslayer 
[23:24] <valorie> wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
[23:24] <shadeslayer> halo
[23:24] <valorie> yes, you're wearing one
[23:24] <valorie> lol
[23:24] <shadeslayer> heh
[23:24] <tsimonq2> shadeslayer: so I just get everything ready and then tar it all up and you'll go through and dput?
[23:24] <shadeslayer> yep
[23:24] <tsimonq2> WOOOOOOO :D
[23:24] <shadeslayer> so just give me the frameworks tar of things to dput first
[23:25] <acheronuk> tag as well!
[23:25] <tsimonq2> acheronuk, clivejo: I've never done this before, halp
[23:25] <clivejo> Im just about to go to bed, but we have a tool in KA
[23:25] <tsimonq2> clivejo: what's it called?!?
[23:26] <tsimonq2> aha
[23:26] <tsimonq2> ubuntu-archive-upload?
[23:26] <clivejo> please be careful
[23:26] <tsimonq2> I will
[23:27] <acheronuk> I had a go with that a week or so ago
[23:27] <acheronuk> see what it did
[23:27] <tsimonq2> shadeslayer: give me 10 mins
[23:27] <shadeslayer> sure, I'm around for another 30 or so minutes
[23:27] <tsimonq2> oh cool
[23:27] <clivejo> acheronuk: can you work with Simon and make notes please
[23:27] <shadeslayer> plus I have 300 mbps up, so it should be quick :)
[23:28] <valorie> oh don't brag and make me hate you
[23:28] <valorie> lol
[23:28] <shadeslayer> tsimonq2: or if you email me links, I'll upload them tomorrow
[23:28]  * clivejo curses and mutters under his breath
[23:28] <shadeslayer> valorie: only for a month :P
[23:28] <shadeslayer> then I have 50 symetric
[23:28] <clivejo> Rohan where are you?
[23:28] <shadeslayer> Barcelona
[23:29] <acheronuk> clivejo: the git for FW 5.26 is in a test branch I think
[23:29] <clivejo> so jealous 
[23:29] <valorie> shadeslayer: the sooner the better I think, because supposedly there is a soft freeze before the hard freeze
[23:29] <valorie> for the beta
[23:30] <shadeslayer> okay
[23:30] <valorie> not sure why, but I hear that muttered around
[23:30] <clivejo> acheronuk: I really don't know, Im so far out of the loop
[23:31] <clivejo> all I can say is Im running the packages from staging and they seem to be stable
[23:31] <tsimonq2> it's AWESOME when the script isn't working and I have to troubleshoot...
[23:31] <valorie> you're here and that's all that counts, clivejo
[23:31] <valorie> we all do what we can
[23:31] <clivejo> life has been like a roller coaster since I got back from Berlin
[23:31] <valorie> I regret not buying you a beer in Berlin, shadeslayer!
[23:32] <valorie> next time
[23:32] <shadeslayer> it's all good :)
[23:33]  * clivejo wonders if shadeslayer had too much beer at times :P
[23:33] <valorie> oh how could that be?
[23:33] <shadeslayer> beer, don't think so
[23:33] <valorie> lol
[23:33] <mparillo> Rohan, I do not what to highlight your nick unnecessarily, but I did want to add my thanks.
[23:33] <shadeslayer> np :)
[23:33] <shadeslayer> you're most welcome :)
[23:33] <clivejo> or was it wine
[23:33] <acheronuk> shadeslayer: do source packages need to be signed by any of us?
[23:33] <shadeslayer> clivejo: when was this xD
[23:34] <shadeslayer> acheronuk: nah, I'll be resigning them anyway
[23:34] <clivejo> QtCon
[23:34] <shadeslayer> clivejo: ahh when we were all having free wine
[23:34] <clivejo> when Haruld was singing Danny boy
[23:34] <shadeslayer> I think the wine was pretty strong, but I wasn't *drunk*
[23:34] <shadeslayer> I was tipsy at best
[23:34] <acheronuk> shadeslayer: that's what I hoped, as the script baukled at that when I tested
[23:35] <acheronuk> so clivejo ....
[23:35] <valorie> harald wouldn't *stop* "singing" Danny Boy
[23:35] <acheronuk> 1) build
[23:35] <acheronuk> 2) tag
[23:35] <acheronuk> 3) merge with yakkety archive?
[23:36] <acheronuk> or 3) 1) 2) ?
[23:36] <clivejo> I dont get the merge with YY archive?
[23:36] <clivejo> merge what?
[23:37] <clivejo> the script _should_ be working with YY archive branch
[23:37] <clivejo> and makes a release
[23:38] <acheronuk> santa did FW 5.26 in a new kubuntu_yakkety_backport branch in case FW 5.26 didn't work out
[23:38] <clivejo> oh, wasnt aware of that
[23:38] <clivejo> or didnt take it in
[23:39] <clivejo> was sgclark involved with that?
[23:40] <acheronuk> even a merge might not be right, as basically need the backport one exchanged for the archive one with no changes.
 Well my internet has died
 And my brain isn't far behind
[23:41] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: are you reading this>
[23:42] <tsimonq2> please work please work please work
[23:42] <tsimonq2> I'm troubleshooting this script...
[23:42] <tsimonq2> let's see
[23:43] <tsimonq2> yes yes that's all taken care of
 But from what you are saying, those changes need merged into yy archive branch to make a release
[23:44] <tsimonq2> yep it merges from that
[23:44] <acheronuk> clivejo: or switched via a rename
[23:44] <acheronuk> as is started out as a copy of the archive branch anyway
[23:44] <tsimonq2> hah, I have the deb-src line enabled, so instead of dputting it, it just does apt source!!!!!!!!
[23:44]  * tsimonq2 crazily laughs
 I don't know, seems to be totally out of sync with our normal workflow
[23:46] <tsimonq2> well it's *going* to work :P
[23:46] <tsimonq2> or I'll make it work
[23:46] <santa_> well, indeed the fw 5.26 are in the _backports branch
[23:46] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: what branch are you using?
[23:47] <shadeslayer> you have until 22nd to get me those tars btw
[23:47]  * acheronuk thinks, at least plasma is in _archive
[23:47] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: kubuntu_yakkety_archive
[23:47] <santa_> shadeslayer: so you just need a tar with the source packages, right?
[23:47] <shadeslayer> santa_: yeah
[23:47] <santa_> ok
[23:47] <shadeslayer> well the appropriate files to dput
[23:47] <santa_> I will work tomorrow on the scriptery to do this
[23:48] <acheronuk> shadeslayer: maybe bot
[23:48] <shadeslayer> which would be the .changes
[23:48] <acheronuk> maybe not
[23:48] <shadeslayer> and everything accompanying .changes
[23:48] <santa_> I have the impresion the old tooling won't do the job
[23:48] <santa_> sure, I know what to do
[23:49] <santa_> hmm you said 22nd
[23:49] <shadeslayer> santa_: I think tsimonq2 is making the update?
[23:49] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: hey!
[23:49] <shadeslayer> hi ahoneybun
[23:49] <tsimonq2> HAI ahoneybun :D
[23:49]  * shadeslayer needs some tea, brb
[23:49] <ahoneybun> just saw your email
[23:50] <santa_> tsimonq2: are you working on it or not? because I have my doubts the old tooling will do the job...
[23:50] <tsimonq2> it's going
[23:50] <tsimonq2> it's working fine
[23:50] <tsimonq2> do not worry
[23:50] <santa_> ok
[23:51] <tsimonq2> it's doing exactly what it should be doing
[23:51] <tsimonq2> it's written in Python and I'm good at Python ;)
[23:51] <tsimonq2> the only thing is, my secret key isn't on my Linode, so I'll have to do all the tagging locally
[23:51] <acheronuk> seemed to work when I tried it a week or so ago
[23:52] <ahoneybun> just approved your email shadeslayer lol
[23:52] <acheronuk> shadeslayer: beta freeze will be before the 22 according to infinity
[23:53] <acheronuk> *before 22nd
[23:53] <tsimonq2> yeah
[23:53] <shadeslayer> yeah I guess
[23:53] <tsimonq2> I'm working on it ;)
[23:54] <tsimonq2> ok, what...
[23:54] <acheronuk> tonight or tomorrow I think
[23:55] <tsimonq2> somebody didn't set the maintainers field right
[23:55] <tsimonq2> so it ALL needs to be redone
[23:55] <tsimonq2> (and by ALL I mean just my script on linode)
[23:55] <acheronuk> why?
[23:56] <tsimonq2> kdenlive
[23:56] <tsimonq2> please fix
[23:56] <tsimonq2> whole thing halts with this:
[23:56] <tsimonq2> dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address
[23:57] <tsimonq2> I'm overriding for now
[23:58] <tsimonq2> well I don't think that's possib;e
[23:58] <tsimonq2> *possible
[23:58] <tsimonq2> argh
[23:59] <acheronuk> kdenlive isn't frameworks?
[23:59] <valorie> no
[23:59] <valorie> it is an application
[23:59] <tsimonq2> I'm doing apps right now