[08:49] <g66k> hello everyone
[08:50] <g66k> im trying to share the web dir with windows but seems there is an error permission denied i cant edit files from windows
[13:13] <echoe> is there anything known to cause a bootup error sometimes? like, I am getting a failure to launch linux/x and blank screen/blinking caps lock, but only, like, 20% of the time I boot. I've got an x220t if that helps.
[13:14] <hateball> echoe: check dmesg and such
[13:14] <hateball> make sure filesystem is fine, and physical hardware as well
[13:28] <echoe> dmesg hasn't said anything. it's possible that it's some part of the physical hardware but I don't really know how to check that. filesystem should theoretically also be fine, it's only been installed for a day or so. ... probably a physical hardware thing I think, but how do I check anything with that?
[13:29] <hateball> echoe: liveboot and run memtest for RAM
[13:29] <hateball> echoe: or install smartmon-tools and run smartctl to check your HDD
[13:29] <hateball> (if it is HDD and not SSD
[13:29] <echoe> 'tis an SSD
[13:29] <hateball> hmmm
[13:30] <echoe> the thing is, though, it's basically only on boot and resume from suspend
[13:30] <hateball> echoe: when the freeze happens, are you able to to switch to a tty and check dmesg?
[13:30] <hateball> I mean, if it's just X that fails
[13:31] <hateball> also suspend is a different beast entirely :D
[13:31] <echoe> I think that everything fails, it looks like a kernel panic but I'll check when it does happen again!
[13:32] <hateball> echoe: you can trying using this kernel param if it's some SSD related issue "libata.force=noncq"
[13:32] <hateball> I had this with my samsung drive, it has since been blacklisted in kernel
[13:32] <hateball> but when that happened, it would at least spit out errors in a tty iirc
[13:36] <echoe> I've added it just in case :) I don't need the additional speed that it looks like that change removes? ... this thing boots in like 4s anyways
[13:36] <echoe> thank you so much!
[13:36] <hateball> echoe: I've had no real world change in speeds anyhow
[13:37] <echoe> I assume it's just the difference in sata 1 vs sata 2 or something. my drive is also pretty crappy, I bought a patriot torch 60gb like a while back
[21:03] <hanshenrik> is 16.04 using LXDE or LXQT?
[21:03] <wxl> hanshenrik: you get around. :) lxde.
[21:06] <hanshenrik> i guess that somewhere there is a trash.desktop file or something on a standard lxde installation,
[21:07] <wxl> this is on debian, no?
[21:07] <hanshenrik> could someone do like `cat trash.desktop | pastebinit` ? i want to see the syntax of that file
[21:07] <hanshenrik> yes it is
[21:07] <wxl> so why not shake the tree of the debian folks?
[21:07] <wxl> it's not really safe to assume that everything is the same with us.
[21:08] <hanshenrik> .. i did, but no response
[21:09] <hanshenrik> i guess most debian people aren't really using lxde anyway
[21:09] <wxl> usually with irc, patience is a virtue
[21:09] <hanshenrik> true
[21:10] <hanshenrik> initially i thought it'd be overkill to install a whole new system with a normal lxde just to see how the trash icon was made, now im not so sure x.x
[21:12] <wxl> there are live cds
[21:12] <hanshenrik> yup, ill do that ^^ thanks for the warning i guess
[21:19] <wxl> hanshenrik: not finding anything interesting regarding trash at all and certainly not a desktop file
[21:20] <wxl> seems to be a folder pointing to trash:///
[21:20] <hanshenrik> oki, thanks for looking! :)
[21:21] <wxl> i think pcmanfm must implement it under the hood somehow