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| jamespage | o/ | 15:57 |
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| nacc | o/ | 15:57 |
| cpaelzer_ | o/ | 15:58 |
| cpaelzer_ | who is the o/ master today | 15:58 |
| jamespage | that would be me | 15:59 |
| cpaelzer_ | yeah | 15:59 |
| cpaelzer_ | nacc: while we wait | 15:59 |
| cpaelzer_ | nacc: I couldn | 15:59 |
| cpaelzer_ | 't find any more progres son the qemu upload you had | 15:59 |
| cpaelzer_ | befor eI planned to abse mine on yours | 15:59 |
| cpaelzer_ | but since I was done I uploaded as SRU today | 15:59 |
| powersj | o/ | 15:59 |
| cpaelzer_ | nacc: so you might have to rebase for bug ... | 16:00 |
| nacc | cpaelzer_: the qemu-img one? yeah, no response yet | 16:00 |
| cpaelzer_ | yeah this one | 16:00 |
| rharper | o/ | 16:00 |
| nacc | cpaelzer_: that's fine, still want them to test the ppa, as i dont' think your changes had any effect on qemu-img | 16:00 |
| jamespage | okies lets kickoff | 16:00 |
| cpaelzer_ | so other than on our discussion last week where we expected you to be up front I hijacked this partivular package version now | 16:00 |
| cpaelzer_ | ok jamespage - go | 16:00 |
| jamespage | #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team | 16:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Sep 20 16:00:54 2016 UTC. The chair is jamespage. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:00 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 16:00 |
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| jamespage | welcome! | 16:00 |
| jgrimm | o/ | 16:00 |
| jamespage | #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 16:01 |
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| jamespage | (jgrimm) Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings | 16:01 |
| jamespage | not that I can see just yet? | 16:01 |
| jgrimm | jamespage, leave it there. i want to discuss later | 16:01 |
| jamespage | #action jgrimm Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings | 16:01 |
| meetingology | ACTION: jgrimm Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings | 16:01 |
| jamespage | right | 16:02 |
| jgrimm | thanks | 16:02 |
| jamespage | #topic Yakkety Development | 16:02 |
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| jamespage | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule | 16:02 |
| jamespage | Final Beta on thursday | 16:02 |
| jamespage | Final freeze on the 6th October | 16:02 |
| jamespage | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-y-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server | 16:02 |
| jgrimm | nothing interesting therein. | 16:03 |
| jamespage | nope | 16:03 |
| jamespage | anything else to raise? I know I have an expected ovs 2.6.0 release this week to handle | 16:03 |
| jamespage | we've been running snapshots to-date | 16:03 |
| cpaelzer_ | I wait for this snap to get tested with dpdk | 16:03 |
| jamespage | jgrimm, anything from you? | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer_ | but I think I covered the config dpdk on OVS 2.6 bug | 16:04 |
| jgrimm | jamespage, i'm good | 16:04 |
| jamespage | cpaelzer_, you did - thankyou | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer_ | one more thing from me | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer_ | I uploaded a new qemu which changes machine types for migration (meintioned two weeks ago) | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer_ | if anybody runs into new unexpected issues please let me know | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer_ | testing can never be complete enough | 16:04 |
| nacc | jgrimm: one update on the openipim MR/FFe -- upstream openipmi has no news or changelog file that is current. Which means the FFe is going to be quite a bit of work to submit :/ | 16:04 |
| nacc | *openipmi | 16:05 |
| jgrimm | that's annoying | 16:05 |
| nacc | jgrimm: yeah... it's unclear to me how much effort it's worth spending at this point in the cycle? | 16:06 |
| jgrimm | ok, chat with me later. leaning that direction | 16:06 |
| jamespage | nacc, what's the driver? | 16:06 |
| jgrimm | jamespage, nothing but currency | 16:06 |
| jamespage | debian has a new version? | 16:06 |
| nacc | and embarassingly that i told jgrimm it was already done :) | 16:06 |
| jamespage | lol | 16:06 |
| jgrimm | heh. i was leaving that out. :) | 16:06 |
| nacc | jamespage: newer than what is in yakkety, yeah | 16:07 |
| jamespage | .18 -> .22 | 16:07 |
| jamespage | its only a patch update | 16:07 |
| jamespage | how big is the debdiff? I'd debate whether this even needs a FFe | 16:07 |
| nacc | the merge itself is very complicated | 16:07 |
| nacc | well, relatively speaking | 16:08 |
| jamespage | ah so that's where the risk lies | 16:08 |
| nacc | imo, yeah | 16:08 |
| nacc | also, openipmi versioning is garbage | 16:08 |
| jamespage | lol | 16:08 |
| jamespage | right so its not really a patch release | 16:08 |
| nacc | and 2.0.18 -> 2.0.22 is not necessarily compatible, might be major changes | 16:08 |
| jamespage | I like those ones | 16:08 |
| nacc | yeah | 16:08 |
| jamespage | okies | 16:08 |
| nacc | and without a changelog/news, i ahve to go look at the commits :) | 16:08 |
| jamespage | jgrimm, nacc: I'd probably timebox effort - and then postpone to +1 if its not looking likely | 16:08 |
| jamespage | anything else for yakkety? we have the normal slew of rc's going in for openstack - release is on the 6th | 16:09 |
| jgrimm | jamespage, seems reasonable. thanks | 16:09 |
| nacc | jamespage: ack | 16:09 |
| jamespage | #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou) | 16:09 |
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| jamespage | caribou, you're up! | 16:09 |
| caribou | not much to bring up | 16:10 |
| caribou | fixed some APT bug | 16:10 |
| caribou | oh, & working on a sosreport charm | 16:10 |
| caribou | that's it | 16:10 |
| jamespage | caribou, that might make a nice action on any charm tbh | 16:10 |
| jamespage | any questions for caribou? | 16:11 |
| jamespage | ... | 16:11 |
| jamespage | .. | 16:11 |
| jgrimm | nope | 16:11 |
| jamespage | . | 16:11 |
| jamespage | ok moving on | 16:11 |
| jamespage | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) | 16:11 |
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| powersj | Four remaining automated ISO failures 2x yakkety lxc (still triaging) 2x trusty minimal-virtual (LP# 1625675). Also have the 6x disk-footprint tests to get working. | 16:11 |
| jamespage | powersj, hello! | 16:11 |
| powersj | howdy! | 16:11 |
| powersj | Working on Ubuntu server ISO oversize issues. Filing bug against ghostscript for pulling in a 70+MB font package. | 16:11 |
| powersj | Added s390x testing to simplestreams. Triage of Curtin vmtest issues. Submitting request to add i386 slave to Jenkins today. Met with cpaelzer to get QEMU migration tests into Jenkins. | 16:11 |
| powersj | Bug triage here and there. Thanks to rbasak for merge request to Ubuntu Sever triage script. | 16:11 |
| jamespage | #link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/ | 16:12 |
| powersj | questions? | 16:12 |
| powersj | comments? suggestions? jokes? | 16:12 |
| nacc | powersj: can you provide a link to the tool here too? | 16:12 |
| nacc | *script | 16:12 |
| powersj | https://github.com/powersj/ubuntu-server-triage | 16:12 |
| nacc | thanks! | 16:12 |
| jgrimm | thanks powersj | 16:13 |
| powersj | np! | 16:13 |
| jamespage | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges) | 16:14 |
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| smb | We might be that >..< close to move to kernel 4.8 for yakkety. Still it is hard to say when for real. Also there was something I thought of bringing up if I could remember... cpaelzer_ , maybe you do? I only find empty space in my brain today ... :/ And we talked about it just yesterday... | 16:14 |
| cpaelzer_ | hands over an iscsi reminder to smb | 16:14 |
| smb | ah right | 16:14 |
| jamespage | smb, wow that's a late switch! | 16:14 |
| smb | question is the iscsitarget dkms package | 16:14 |
| * jamespage shivers a little | 16:15 | |
| smb | not sure anybody really uses that one still because there is an iscsi target in the kernel | 16:15 |
| jamespage | tgt and lio right? | 16:15 |
| jamespage | maybe iscsitarget as well? | 16:15 |
| smb | tgt is the userspace part | 16:15 |
| jamespage | ah yes | 16:16 |
| smb | iscsitarget no longer compiles with 4.6 + kernels and upstream has not done any change for a year or more | 16:16 |
| smb | So we kind of would want to drop it in yakkety | 16:16 |
| smb | and see whether anybody starts screaming | 16:17 |
| jamespage | smb, I remember some users at rackspace cloud | 16:17 |
| jamespage | we might want to check whether they are still users | 16:17 |
| jamespage | leave that with me | 16:17 |
| smb | jamespage, ack, thanks | 16:17 |
| jamespage | #action jamespage checking with old iscsitarget users on relevancy with new kernels | 16:17 |
| meetingology | ACTION: jamespage checking with old iscsitarget users on relevancy with new kernels | 16:17 |
| jamespage | #topic Upcoming Call For Papers | 16:18 |
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| jamespage | any calls for papers? | 16:18 |
| jamespage | ... | 16:18 |
| jamespage | .. | 16:18 |
| jamespage | . | 16:18 |
| jamespage | no ok | 16:18 |
| jamespage | #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events | 16:18 |
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| jamespage | openstack summit is in a month in barcelona - there will be a few ubuntu-server team members there | 16:18 |
| jamespage | anything else? | 16:19 |
| jamespage | ... | 16:19 |
| cpaelzer_ | here | 16:19 |
| cpaelzer_ | typing | 16:19 |
| jamespage | cpaelzer_, ok | 16:19 |
| * jamespage waits for cpaelzer_ to type | 16:19 | |
| cpaelzer_ | for former CFP topic | 16:19 |
| cpaelzer_ | almost forgot | 16:19 |
| cpaelzer_ | if anybody likes to pick typos and other things to complain about feel free to take a look at | 16:20 |
| cpaelzer_ | https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1mCRAkUO78_Jud9DhFR922AoxrZpGsLbzsPI_SmS0U1U | 16:20 |
| cpaelzer_ | done | 16:20 |
| cpaelzer_ | thanks jamespage for waiting on my slow typing | 16:20 |
| jamespage | np cpaelzer_ | 16:20 |
| jamespage | good luck :-) | 16:21 |
| jamespage | #topic Open Discussion | 16:21 |
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| jamespage | any open things? | 16:21 |
| powersj | rbasak, iso testing? | 16:21 |
| rbasak | Yeah | 16:22 |
| powersj | how should we plan for that? | 16:22 |
| rbasak | So we've been caught short with ISO testing needs during release week in the past. | 16:22 |
| rbasak | I thought we could try and nominate testers in advance for that. | 16:22 |
| rbasak | So people can schedule in some time. | 16:22 |
| jamespage | is this just a final set of eyes on what the automated testing does right? | 16:22 |
| rbasak | Some of the automated testing is broken, isn't it? | 16:23 |
| rbasak | We had to do some testing manually last time. | 16:23 |
| powersj | correct - however I was more concerned with the manual testing | 16:23 |
| powersj | re: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ | 16:23 |
| rbasak | I believe some of that was supposed to be automated so we didn't need to do it manually. That's what I believe broke at some point. | 16:23 |
| jamespage | yeah - the iso test cases had automated counterparts at one point in time | 16:24 |
| * jamespage wrote v1 of that system about 6 years ago | 16:24 | |
| powersj | well in that case, the yakkety ISO tests are all passing, except the lxc ones | 16:24 |
| rbasak | I just thought that if anything manual is required, we could assign it ahead of time. Perhaps to me, nacc, cpaelzer_ with powersj taking point. | 16:24 |
| powersj | yeah | 16:24 |
| rbasak | That's all I think needs doing. | 16:24 |
| jamespage | ok | 16:24 |
| cpaelzer_ | well, share the pain - thats ok | 16:24 |
| powersj | ok I'll put a sheet together and we cna sign up | 16:25 |
| rbasak | Thanks! | 16:25 |
| cpaelzer_ | IIRC in the past xnox did the s390 testing | 16:25 |
| cpaelzer_ | so it might not be on us only | 16:25 |
| jamespage | #action powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet | 16:25 |
| meetingology | ACTION: powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet | 16:25 |
| jamespage | #topic Assign daily bug triage for week (powersj, rbasak, nacc, cpaelzer) | 16:25 |
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| rbasak | Thank you for bringing that up powersj | 16:25 |
| powersj | np | 16:25 |
| rbasak | I think this topic is running itself now, along with the bug assignments. | 16:25 |
| powersj | yeah | 16:26 |
| jamespage | good oh | 16:26 |
| rbasak | Does anyone feel we still need these on the agenda? | 16:26 |
| powersj | FYI I am sprinting next week, so up to 3 of you | 16:26 |
| rbasak | powersj: is the triage rota adjusted appropriately? | 16:26 |
| powersj | imo, we can pull it off given it seems to be working, when rbasak does his triage ;) | 16:26 |
| rbasak | Oh | 16:26 |
| powersj | yes | 16:26 |
| rbasak | I believe I'm out next week too | 16:26 |
| cpaelzer_ | no objections to my assignments for like the next 10 days | 16:26 |
| xnox | jamespage, LPAR cannot be end to end automate. z/VM kind of can be - I have some preseeds that are running semi-automated via ssh and c3270 access, KVM can be automated against these, but currently is not. | 16:26 |
| rbasak | I caught up on my triaging backlog today :) | 16:26 |
| xnox | jamespage, overall it's not automated, and there is no iso.qa.ubuntu.com gated release | 16:27 |
| powersj | woohoo | 16:27 |
| cpaelzer_ | rbasak: you are on 30th septmber next week | 16:27 |
| rbasak | cpaelzer_: that's for me to do on Monday, so I guess that's fine? | 16:28 |
| powersj | yeah | 16:28 |
| powersj | cpaelzer_, and nacc do daily triage all next week | 16:28 |
| powersj | rbasak and I take the following week | 16:28 |
| cpaelzer_ | ok | 16:29 |
| jamespage | all good then? | 16:29 |
| powersj | I think so | 16:29 |
| jamespage | great | 16:29 |
| jamespage | #topic Assigned merges/bugwork (rbasak) | 16:29 |
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| nacc | powersj: ack | 16:29 |
| rbasak | Any comments on bugwork progress? | 16:29 |
| nacc | this one can also be dropped then, from future agendas? | 16:29 |
| nacc | or do we want to keep it for a while? | 16:29 |
| rbasak | I'm fine to drop it. | 16:29 |
| rbasak | We could move any required bugwork discussion into the "Yakkety Development" topic | 16:30 |
| nacc | +1 | 16:30 |
| nacc | in theory, it should be business as usual, unless blocked on something, and bring it up there? | 16:30 |
| jgrimm | rbasak, i think i need to do a sweep through it with you.. i think some reassignments may be in order | 16:30 |
| rbasak | OK | 16:30 |
| jgrimm | or some nudging by me. :) | 16:30 |
| powersj | rbasak, fwiw I could use 2 more small ones if you have 'em | 16:31 |
| rbasak | powersj: OK, I'll look for some for you. | 16:31 |
| rbasak | powersj: feel free to cherry-pick from the backlog yourself if you like. | 16:31 |
| powersj | ok | 16:31 |
| powersj | I'll do that | 16:31 |
| rbasak | I was trying to pick ones that may lead to easy uploads to get you some experience of that. | 16:31 |
| jgrimm | rbasak, i'll probably grab a new one too | 16:31 |
| rbasak | The "bitesize" tagged ones can be useful for ths. | 16:32 |
| cpaelzer_ | I already grabbed a few and added them to the list | 16:32 |
| cpaelzer_ | so no new new ones to be taken atm unfortunately | 16:32 |
| rbasak | Yeah I've done the same. | 16:32 |
| rbasak | jamespage: I guess we're done with this topic? | 16:36 |
| jamespage | #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair | 16:36 |
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| jamespage | ok so looks like its arosales | 16:36 |
| jamespage | same time next week folks | 16:36 |
| jamespage | #endmeeting | 16:37 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Sep 20 16:37:03 2016 UTC. | 16:37 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-09-20-16.00.moin.txt | 16:37 |
| nacc | jamespage: thanks! | 16:37 |
| rbasak | Thank you for chairing jamespage! | 16:37 |
| jamespage | my pleasure! | 16:37 |
| jgrimm | thanks jamespage | 16:39 |
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