[15:57] <jamespage> o/
[15:57] <nacc> o/
[15:58] <cpaelzer_> o/
[15:58] <cpaelzer_> who is the o/ master today
[15:59] <jamespage> that would be me
[15:59] <cpaelzer_> yeah
[15:59] <cpaelzer_> nacc: while we wait
[15:59] <cpaelzer_> nacc: I couldn
[15:59] <cpaelzer_> 't find any more progres son the qemu upload you had
[15:59] <cpaelzer_> befor eI planned to abse mine on yours
[15:59] <cpaelzer_> but since I was done I uploaded as SRU today
[15:59] <powersj> o/
[16:00] <cpaelzer_> nacc: so you might have to rebase for bug ...
[16:00] <nacc> cpaelzer_: the qemu-img one? yeah, no response yet
[16:00] <cpaelzer_> yeah this one
[16:00] <rharper> o/
[16:00] <nacc> cpaelzer_: that's fine, still want them to test the ppa, as i dont' think your changes had any effect on qemu-img
[16:00] <jamespage> okies lets kickoff
[16:00] <cpaelzer_> so other than on our discussion last week where we expected you to be up front I hijacked this partivular package version now
[16:00] <cpaelzer_> ok jamespage - go
[16:00] <jamespage> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 20 16:00:54 2016 UTC.  The chair is jamespage. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:00] <jamespage> welcome!
[16:00] <jgrimm> o/
[16:01] <jamespage> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:01] <jamespage> (jgrimm) Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings
[16:01] <jamespage> not that I can see just yet?
[16:01] <jgrimm> jamespage, leave it there. i want to discuss later
[16:01] <jamespage> #action jgrimm  Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings
[16:01] <meetingology> ACTION: jgrimm  Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings
[16:02] <jamespage> right
[16:02] <jgrimm> thanks
[16:02] <jamespage> #topic Yakkety Development
[16:02] <jamespage> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule
[16:02] <jamespage> Final Beta on thursday
[16:02] <jamespage> Final freeze on the 6th October
[16:02] <jamespage> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-y-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:03] <jgrimm> nothing interesting therein.
[16:03] <jamespage> nope
[16:03] <jamespage> anything else to raise? I know I have an expected ovs 2.6.0 release this week to handle
[16:03] <jamespage> we've been running snapshots to-date
[16:03] <cpaelzer_> I wait for this snap to get tested with dpdk
[16:04] <jamespage> jgrimm, anything from you?
[16:04] <cpaelzer_> but I think I covered the config dpdk on OVS 2.6 bug
[16:04] <jgrimm> jamespage, i'm good
[16:04] <jamespage> cpaelzer_, you did - thankyou
[16:04] <cpaelzer_> one more thing from me
[16:04] <cpaelzer_> I uploaded a new qemu which changes machine types for migration (meintioned two weeks ago)
[16:04] <cpaelzer_> if anybody runs into new unexpected issues please let me know
[16:04] <cpaelzer_> testing can never be complete enough
[16:04] <nacc> jgrimm: one update on the openipim MR/FFe -- upstream openipmi has no news or changelog file that is current. Which means the FFe is going to be quite a bit of work to submit :/
[16:05] <nacc> *openipmi
[16:05] <jgrimm> that's annoying
[16:06] <nacc> jgrimm: yeah... it's unclear to me how much effort it's worth spending at this point in the cycle?
[16:06] <jgrimm> ok, chat with me later. leaning that direction
[16:06] <jamespage> nacc, what's the driver?
[16:06] <jgrimm> jamespage, nothing but currency
[16:06] <jamespage> debian has a new version?
[16:06] <nacc> and embarassingly that i told jgrimm it was already done :)
[16:06] <jamespage> lol
[16:06] <jgrimm> heh. i was leaving that out. :)
[16:07] <nacc> jamespage: newer than what is in yakkety, yeah
[16:07] <jamespage> .18 -> .22
[16:07] <jamespage> its only a patch update
[16:07] <jamespage> how big is the debdiff? I'd debate whether this even needs a FFe
[16:07] <nacc> the merge itself is very complicated
[16:08] <nacc> well, relatively speaking
[16:08] <jamespage> ah so that's where the risk lies
[16:08] <nacc> imo, yeah
[16:08] <nacc> also, openipmi versioning is garbage
[16:08] <jamespage> lol
[16:08] <jamespage> right so its not really a patch release
[16:08] <nacc> and 2.0.18 -> 2.0.22 is not necessarily compatible, might be major changes
[16:08] <jamespage> I like those ones
[16:08] <nacc> yeah
[16:08] <jamespage> okies
[16:08] <nacc> and without a changelog/news, i ahve to go look at the commits :)
[16:08] <jamespage> jgrimm, nacc: I'd probably timebox effort - and then postpone to +1 if its not looking likely
[16:09] <jamespage> anything else for yakkety?  we have the normal slew of rc's going in for openstack - release is on the 6th
[16:09] <jgrimm> jamespage, seems reasonable. thanks
[16:09] <nacc> jamespage: ack
[16:09] <jamespage> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)
[16:09] <jamespage> caribou, you're up!
[16:10] <caribou> not much to bring up
[16:10] <caribou> fixed some APT bug
[16:10] <caribou> oh, & working on a sosreport charm
[16:10] <caribou> that's it
[16:10] <jamespage> caribou, that might make a nice action on any charm tbh
[16:11] <jamespage> any questions for caribou?
[16:11] <jamespage> ...
[16:11] <jamespage> ..
[16:11] <jgrimm> nope
[16:11] <jamespage> .
[16:11] <jamespage> ok moving on
[16:11] <jamespage> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)
[16:11] <powersj> Four remaining automated ISO failures 2x yakkety lxc (still triaging) 2x trusty minimal-virtual (LP# 1625675). Also have the 6x disk-footprint tests to get working.
[16:11] <jamespage> powersj, hello!
[16:11] <powersj> howdy!
[16:11] <powersj> Working on Ubuntu server ISO oversize issues. Filing bug against ghostscript for pulling in a 70+MB font package.
[16:11] <powersj> Added s390x testing to simplestreams. Triage of Curtin vmtest issues. Submitting request to add i386 slave to Jenkins today. Met with cpaelzer to get QEMU migration tests into Jenkins.
[16:11] <powersj> Bug triage here and there. Thanks to rbasak for merge request to Ubuntu Sever triage script.
[16:12] <jamespage> #link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/
[16:12] <powersj> questions?
[16:12] <powersj> comments? suggestions? jokes?
[16:12] <nacc> powersj: can you provide a link to the tool here too?
[16:12] <nacc> *script
[16:12] <powersj> https://github.com/powersj/ubuntu-server-triage
[16:12] <nacc> thanks!
[16:13] <jgrimm> thanks powersj
[16:13] <powersj> np!
[16:14] <jamespage> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges)
[16:14] <smb> We might be that >..< close to move to kernel 4.8 for yakkety. Still it is hard to say when for real. Also there was something I thought of bringing up if I could remember... cpaelzer_ , maybe you do? I only find empty space in my brain today ... :/ And we talked about it just yesterday...
[16:14] <cpaelzer_> hands over an iscsi reminder to smb
[16:14] <smb> ah right
[16:14] <jamespage> smb, wow that's a late switch!
[16:14] <smb> question is the iscsitarget dkms package
[16:15]  * jamespage shivers a little
[16:15] <smb> not sure anybody really uses that one still because there is an iscsi target in the kernel
[16:15] <jamespage> tgt and lio right?
[16:15] <jamespage> maybe iscsitarget as well?
[16:15] <smb> tgt is the userspace part
[16:16] <jamespage> ah yes
[16:16] <smb> iscsitarget no longer compiles with 4.6 + kernels and upstream has not done any change for a year or more
[16:16] <smb> So we kind of would want to drop it in yakkety
[16:17] <smb> and see whether anybody starts screaming
[16:17] <jamespage> smb, I remember some users at rackspace cloud
[16:17] <jamespage> we might want to check whether they are still users
[16:17] <jamespage> leave that with me
[16:17] <smb> jamespage, ack, thanks
[16:17] <jamespage> #action jamespage checking with old iscsitarget  users on relevancy with new kernels
[16:17] <meetingology> ACTION: jamespage checking with old iscsitarget  users on relevancy with new kernels
[16:18] <jamespage> #topic Upcoming Call For Papers
[16:18] <jamespage> any calls for papers?
[16:18] <jamespage> ...
[16:18] <jamespage> ..
[16:18] <jamespage> .
[16:18] <jamespage> no ok
[16:18] <jamespage> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:18] <jamespage> openstack summit is in a month in barcelona - there will be a few ubuntu-server team members there
[16:19] <jamespage> anything else?
[16:19] <jamespage> ...
[16:19] <cpaelzer_> here
[16:19] <cpaelzer_> typing
[16:19] <jamespage> cpaelzer_, ok
[16:19]  * jamespage waits for cpaelzer_ to type
[16:19] <cpaelzer_> for former CFP topic
[16:19] <cpaelzer_> almost forgot
[16:20] <cpaelzer_> if anybody likes to pick typos and other things to complain about feel free to take a look at
[16:20] <cpaelzer_> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1mCRAkUO78_Jud9DhFR922AoxrZpGsLbzsPI_SmS0U1U
[16:20] <cpaelzer_> done
[16:20] <cpaelzer_> thanks jamespage for waiting on my slow typing
[16:20] <jamespage> np cpaelzer_
[16:21] <jamespage> good luck :-)
[16:21] <jamespage> #topic Open Discussion
[16:21] <jamespage> any open things?
[16:21] <powersj> rbasak, iso testing?
[16:22] <rbasak> Yeah
[16:22] <powersj> how should we plan for that?
[16:22] <rbasak> So we've been caught short with ISO testing needs during release week in the past.
[16:22] <rbasak> I thought we could try and nominate testers in advance for that.
[16:22] <rbasak> So people can schedule in some time.
[16:22] <jamespage> is this just a final set of eyes on what the automated testing does right?
[16:23] <rbasak> Some of the automated testing is broken, isn't it?
[16:23] <rbasak> We had to do some testing manually last time.
[16:23] <powersj> correct - however I was more concerned with the manual testing
[16:23] <powersj> re: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[16:23] <rbasak> I believe some of that was supposed to be automated so we didn't need to do it manually. That's what I believe broke at some point.
[16:24] <jamespage> yeah - the iso test cases had automated counterparts at one point in time
[16:24]  * jamespage wrote v1 of that system about 6 years ago
[16:24] <powersj> well in that case, the yakkety ISO tests are all passing, except the lxc ones
[16:24] <rbasak> I just thought that if anything manual is required, we could assign it ahead of time. Perhaps to me, nacc, cpaelzer_ with powersj taking point.
[16:24] <powersj> yeah
[16:24] <rbasak> That's all I think needs doing.
[16:24] <jamespage> ok
[16:24] <cpaelzer_> well, share the pain - thats ok
[16:25] <powersj> ok I'll put a sheet together and we cna sign up
[16:25] <rbasak> Thanks!
[16:25] <cpaelzer_> IIRC in the past xnox did the s390 testing
[16:25] <cpaelzer_> so it might not be on us only
[16:25] <jamespage> #action powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet
[16:25] <meetingology> ACTION: powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet
[16:25] <jamespage> #topic Assign daily bug triage for week (powersj, rbasak, nacc, cpaelzer)
[16:25] <rbasak> Thank you for bringing that up powersj
[16:25] <powersj> np
[16:25] <rbasak> I think this topic is running itself now, along with the bug assignments.
[16:26] <powersj> yeah
[16:26] <jamespage> good oh
[16:26] <rbasak> Does anyone feel we still need these on the agenda?
[16:26] <powersj> FYI I am sprinting next week, so up to 3 of you
[16:26] <rbasak> powersj: is the triage rota adjusted appropriately?
[16:26] <powersj> imo, we can pull it off given it seems to be working, when rbasak does his triage ;)
[16:26] <rbasak> Oh
[16:26] <powersj> yes
[16:26] <rbasak> I believe I'm out next week too
[16:26] <cpaelzer_> no objections to my assignments for like the next 10 days
[16:26] <xnox> jamespage, LPAR cannot be end to end automate. z/VM kind of can be - I have some preseeds that are running semi-automated via ssh and c3270 access, KVM can be automated against these, but currently is not.
[16:26] <rbasak> I caught up on my triaging backlog today :)
[16:27] <xnox> jamespage, overall it's not automated, and there is no iso.qa.ubuntu.com gated release
[16:27] <powersj> woohoo
[16:27] <cpaelzer_> rbasak: you are on 30th septmber next week
[16:28] <rbasak> cpaelzer_: that's for me to do on Monday, so I guess that's fine?
[16:28] <powersj> yeah
[16:28] <powersj> cpaelzer_, and nacc do daily triage all next week
[16:28] <powersj> rbasak and I take the following week
[16:29] <cpaelzer_> ok
[16:29] <jamespage> all good then?
[16:29] <powersj> I think so
[16:29] <jamespage> great
[16:29] <jamespage> #topic Assigned merges/bugwork (rbasak)
[16:29] <nacc> powersj: ack
[16:29] <rbasak> Any comments on bugwork progress?
[16:29] <nacc> this one can also be dropped then, from future agendas?
[16:29] <nacc> or do we want to keep it for a while?
[16:29] <rbasak> I'm fine to drop it.
[16:30] <rbasak> We could move any required bugwork discussion into the "Yakkety Development" topic
[16:30] <nacc> +1
[16:30] <nacc> in theory, it should be business as usual, unless blocked on something, and bring it up there?
[16:30] <jgrimm> rbasak, i think i need to do a sweep through it with you.. i think some reassignments may be in order
[16:30] <rbasak> OK
[16:30] <jgrimm> or some nudging by me. :)
[16:31] <powersj> rbasak, fwiw I could use 2 more small ones if you have 'em
[16:31] <rbasak> powersj: OK, I'll look for some for you.
[16:31] <rbasak> powersj: feel free to cherry-pick from the backlog yourself if you like.
[16:31] <powersj> ok
[16:31] <powersj> I'll do that
[16:31] <rbasak> I was trying to pick ones that may lead to easy uploads to get you some experience of that.
[16:31] <jgrimm> rbasak, i'll probably grab a new one too
[16:32] <rbasak> The "bitesize" tagged ones can be useful for ths.
[16:32] <cpaelzer_> I already grabbed a few and added them to the list
[16:32] <cpaelzer_> so no new new ones to be taken atm unfortunately
[16:32] <rbasak> Yeah I've done the same.
[16:36] <rbasak> jamespage: I guess we're done with this topic?
[16:36] <jamespage> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair
[16:36] <jamespage> ok so looks like its arosales
[16:36] <jamespage> same time next week folks
[16:37] <jamespage> #endmeeting
[16:37] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep 20 16:37:03 2016 UTC.
[16:37] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-09-20-16.00.moin.txt
[16:37] <nacc> jamespage: thanks!
[16:37] <rbasak> Thank you for chairing jamespage!
[16:37] <jamespage> my pleasure!
[16:39] <jgrimm> thanks jamespage