=== Michaela is now known as Mikaela === Guest14517 is now known as med_ === JanC is now known as Guest12202 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [15:57] o/ [15:57] o/ [15:58] o/ [15:58] who is the o/ master today [15:59] that would be me [15:59] yeah [15:59] nacc: while we wait [15:59] nacc: I couldn [15:59] 't find any more progres son the qemu upload you had [15:59] befor eI planned to abse mine on yours [15:59] but since I was done I uploaded as SRU today [15:59] o/ [16:00] nacc: so you might have to rebase for bug ... [16:00] cpaelzer_: the qemu-img one? yeah, no response yet [16:00] yeah this one [16:00] o/ [16:00] cpaelzer_: that's fine, still want them to test the ppa, as i dont' think your changes had any effect on qemu-img [16:00] okies lets kickoff [16:00] so other than on our discussion last week where we expected you to be up front I hijacked this partivular package version now [16:00] ok jamespage - go [16:00] #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team [16:00] Meeting started Tue Sep 20 16:00:54 2016 UTC. The chair is jamespage. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:00] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: [16:00] welcome! [16:00] o/ [16:01] #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [16:01] (jgrimm) Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings [16:01] not that I can see just yet? [16:01] jamespage, leave it there. i want to discuss later [16:01] #action jgrimm Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings [16:01] ACTION: jgrimm Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings [16:02] right [16:02] thanks [16:02] #topic Yakkety Development === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Yakkety Development [16:02] #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule [16:02] Final Beta on thursday [16:02] Final freeze on the 6th October [16:02] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-y-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server [16:03] nothing interesting therein. [16:03] nope [16:03] anything else to raise? I know I have an expected ovs 2.6.0 release this week to handle [16:03] we've been running snapshots to-date [16:03] I wait for this snap to get tested with dpdk [16:04] jgrimm, anything from you? [16:04] but I think I covered the config dpdk on OVS 2.6 bug [16:04] jamespage, i'm good [16:04] cpaelzer_, you did - thankyou [16:04] one more thing from me [16:04] I uploaded a new qemu which changes machine types for migration (meintioned two weeks ago) [16:04] if anybody runs into new unexpected issues please let me know [16:04] testing can never be complete enough [16:04] jgrimm: one update on the openipim MR/FFe -- upstream openipmi has no news or changelog file that is current. Which means the FFe is going to be quite a bit of work to submit :/ [16:05] *openipmi [16:05] that's annoying [16:06] jgrimm: yeah... it's unclear to me how much effort it's worth spending at this point in the cycle? [16:06] ok, chat with me later. leaning that direction [16:06] nacc, what's the driver? [16:06] jamespage, nothing but currency [16:06] debian has a new version? [16:06] and embarassingly that i told jgrimm it was already done :) [16:06] lol [16:06] heh. i was leaving that out. :) [16:07] jamespage: newer than what is in yakkety, yeah [16:07] .18 -> .22 [16:07] its only a patch update [16:07] how big is the debdiff? I'd debate whether this even needs a FFe [16:07] the merge itself is very complicated [16:08] well, relatively speaking [16:08] ah so that's where the risk lies [16:08] imo, yeah [16:08] also, openipmi versioning is garbage [16:08] lol [16:08] right so its not really a patch release [16:08] and 2.0.18 -> 2.0.22 is not necessarily compatible, might be major changes [16:08] I like those ones [16:08] yeah [16:08] okies [16:08] and without a changelog/news, i ahve to go look at the commits :) [16:08] jgrimm, nacc: I'd probably timebox effort - and then postpone to +1 if its not looking likely [16:09] anything else for yakkety? we have the normal slew of rc's going in for openstack - release is on the 6th [16:09] jamespage, seems reasonable. thanks [16:09] jamespage: ack [16:09] #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou) [16:09] caribou, you're up! [16:10] not much to bring up [16:10] fixed some APT bug [16:10] oh, & working on a sosreport charm [16:10] that's it [16:10] caribou, that might make a nice action on any charm tbh [16:11] any questions for caribou? [16:11] ... [16:11] .. [16:11] nope [16:11] . [16:11] ok moving on [16:11] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) [16:11] Four remaining automated ISO failures 2x yakkety lxc (still triaging) 2x trusty minimal-virtual (LP# 1625675). Also have the 6x disk-footprint tests to get working. [16:11] powersj, hello! [16:11] howdy! [16:11] Working on Ubuntu server ISO oversize issues. Filing bug against ghostscript for pulling in a 70+MB font package. [16:11] Added s390x testing to simplestreams. Triage of Curtin vmtest issues. Submitting request to add i386 slave to Jenkins today. Met with cpaelzer to get QEMU migration tests into Jenkins. [16:11] Bug triage here and there. Thanks to rbasak for merge request to Ubuntu Sever triage script. [16:12] #link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/ [16:12] questions? [16:12] comments? suggestions? jokes? [16:12] powersj: can you provide a link to the tool here too? [16:12] *script [16:12] https://github.com/powersj/ubuntu-server-triage [16:12] thanks! [16:13] thanks powersj [16:13] np! [16:14] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges) [16:14] We might be that >..< close to move to kernel 4.8 for yakkety. Still it is hard to say when for real. Also there was something I thought of bringing up if I could remember... cpaelzer_ , maybe you do? I only find empty space in my brain today ... :/ And we talked about it just yesterday... [16:14] hands over an iscsi reminder to smb [16:14] ah right [16:14] smb, wow that's a late switch! [16:14] question is the iscsitarget dkms package [16:15] * jamespage shivers a little [16:15] not sure anybody really uses that one still because there is an iscsi target in the kernel [16:15] tgt and lio right? [16:15] maybe iscsitarget as well? [16:15] tgt is the userspace part [16:16] ah yes [16:16] iscsitarget no longer compiles with 4.6 + kernels and upstream has not done any change for a year or more [16:16] So we kind of would want to drop it in yakkety [16:17] and see whether anybody starts screaming [16:17] smb, I remember some users at rackspace cloud [16:17] we might want to check whether they are still users [16:17] leave that with me [16:17] jamespage, ack, thanks [16:17] #action jamespage checking with old iscsitarget users on relevancy with new kernels [16:17] ACTION: jamespage checking with old iscsitarget users on relevancy with new kernels [16:18] #topic Upcoming Call For Papers === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Upcoming Call For Papers [16:18] any calls for papers? [16:18] ... [16:18] .. [16:18] . [16:18] no ok [16:18] #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:18] openstack summit is in a month in barcelona - there will be a few ubuntu-server team members there [16:19] anything else? [16:19] ... [16:19] here [16:19] typing [16:19] cpaelzer_, ok [16:19] * jamespage waits for cpaelzer_ to type [16:19] for former CFP topic [16:19] almost forgot [16:20] if anybody likes to pick typos and other things to complain about feel free to take a look at [16:20] https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1mCRAkUO78_Jud9DhFR922AoxrZpGsLbzsPI_SmS0U1U [16:20] done [16:20] thanks jamespage for waiting on my slow typing [16:20] np cpaelzer_ [16:21] good luck :-) [16:21] #topic Open Discussion === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Open Discussion [16:21] any open things? [16:21] rbasak, iso testing? [16:22] Yeah [16:22] how should we plan for that? [16:22] So we've been caught short with ISO testing needs during release week in the past. [16:22] I thought we could try and nominate testers in advance for that. [16:22] So people can schedule in some time. [16:22] is this just a final set of eyes on what the automated testing does right? [16:23] Some of the automated testing is broken, isn't it? [16:23] We had to do some testing manually last time. [16:23] correct - however I was more concerned with the manual testing [16:23] re: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ [16:23] I believe some of that was supposed to be automated so we didn't need to do it manually. That's what I believe broke at some point. [16:24] yeah - the iso test cases had automated counterparts at one point in time [16:24] * jamespage wrote v1 of that system about 6 years ago [16:24] well in that case, the yakkety ISO tests are all passing, except the lxc ones [16:24] I just thought that if anything manual is required, we could assign it ahead of time. Perhaps to me, nacc, cpaelzer_ with powersj taking point. [16:24] yeah [16:24] That's all I think needs doing. [16:24] ok [16:24] well, share the pain - thats ok [16:25] ok I'll put a sheet together and we cna sign up [16:25] Thanks! [16:25] IIRC in the past xnox did the s390 testing [16:25] so it might not be on us only [16:25] #action powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet [16:25] ACTION: powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet [16:25] #topic Assign daily bug triage for week (powersj, rbasak, nacc, cpaelzer) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Assign daily bug triage for week (powersj, rbasak, nacc, cpaelzer) [16:25] Thank you for bringing that up powersj [16:25] np [16:25] I think this topic is running itself now, along with the bug assignments. [16:26] yeah [16:26] good oh [16:26] Does anyone feel we still need these on the agenda? [16:26] FYI I am sprinting next week, so up to 3 of you [16:26] powersj: is the triage rota adjusted appropriately? [16:26] imo, we can pull it off given it seems to be working, when rbasak does his triage ;) [16:26] Oh [16:26] yes [16:26] I believe I'm out next week too [16:26] no objections to my assignments for like the next 10 days [16:26] jamespage, LPAR cannot be end to end automate. z/VM kind of can be - I have some preseeds that are running semi-automated via ssh and c3270 access, KVM can be automated against these, but currently is not. [16:26] I caught up on my triaging backlog today :) [16:27] jamespage, overall it's not automated, and there is no iso.qa.ubuntu.com gated release [16:27] woohoo [16:27] rbasak: you are on 30th septmber next week [16:28] cpaelzer_: that's for me to do on Monday, so I guess that's fine? [16:28] yeah [16:28] cpaelzer_, and nacc do daily triage all next week [16:28] rbasak and I take the following week [16:29] ok [16:29] all good then? [16:29] I think so [16:29] great [16:29] #topic Assigned merges/bugwork (rbasak) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Assigned merges/bugwork (rbasak) [16:29] powersj: ack [16:29] Any comments on bugwork progress? [16:29] this one can also be dropped then, from future agendas? [16:29] or do we want to keep it for a while? [16:29] I'm fine to drop it. [16:30] We could move any required bugwork discussion into the "Yakkety Development" topic [16:30] +1 [16:30] in theory, it should be business as usual, unless blocked on something, and bring it up there? [16:30] rbasak, i think i need to do a sweep through it with you.. i think some reassignments may be in order [16:30] OK [16:30] or some nudging by me. :) [16:31] rbasak, fwiw I could use 2 more small ones if you have 'em [16:31] powersj: OK, I'll look for some for you. [16:31] powersj: feel free to cherry-pick from the backlog yourself if you like. [16:31] ok [16:31] I'll do that [16:31] I was trying to pick ones that may lead to easy uploads to get you some experience of that. [16:31] rbasak, i'll probably grab a new one too [16:32] The "bitesize" tagged ones can be useful for ths. [16:32] I already grabbed a few and added them to the list [16:32] so no new new ones to be taken atm unfortunately [16:32] Yeah I've done the same. [16:36] jamespage: I guess we're done with this topic? [16:36] #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Announce next meeting date, time and chair [16:36] ok so looks like its arosales [16:36] same time next week folks [16:37] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:37] Meeting ended Tue Sep 20 16:37:03 2016 UTC. [16:37] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-09-20-16.00.moin.txt [16:37] jamespage: thanks! [16:37] Thank you for chairing jamespage! [16:37] my pleasure! [16:39] thanks jamespage === acheronuk is now known as acheron === acheron is now known as acheronuk === beisner is now known as beisner-food === beisner-food is now known as beisner