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IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> * leaves before his head explodes *00:01
valoriesweet dreams, clive00:02
tsimonq2no no no no NOO not the nightly......00:02
* valorie sings Oh Danny Boy to get Clive to sleep00:02
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!00:03
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_grantleetheme build #78: FIXED in 44 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_grantleetheme/78/00:03
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Starting build #144 for job mgmt_pause_integration (previous build: ABORTED)00:03
valoriethe pipes, the pipes are calling....00:03
tsimonq2green!00:04
tsimonq2shadeslayer: still around?00:05
shadeslayeryep00:05
shadeslayermy tea is still not finished00:05
tsimonq2this tar will be rather big00:05
tsimonq2where should I put it?00:05
shadeslayeryeah that's cool00:06
shadeslayerwherever00:06
tsimonq2or I can give you access to my linode and you can just scp?00:06
shadeslayeras long as it supports parallel download00:06
shadeslayertsimonq2: scp is sequential though :(00:06
shadeslayerlets try00:06
tsimonq2it's not 100% done yet00:07
shadeslayersure00:07
tsimonq2shadeslayer: so, while you're hear, who are you? ;)00:07
tsimonq2*here00:07
shadeslayeroh00:07
valoriehe's Rohan Garg!00:07
shadeslayerI used to work on kubuntu till like 2 years ago :)00:07
shadeslayeras part of my full time job at Blue Systems00:08
shadeslayernow I work on Debian00:08
valorieat one point sitter's minion00:08
shadeslayer^^00:08
valorieah, you used to do it for love00:08
shadeslayerduring uni, yes :P00:09
valorieand you still are !00:09
valorie'cause you still love us00:09
shadeslayeryus <300:09
shadeslayer( plus the free beer )00:09
valorielol00:09
valoriecan't forget the free beer00:09
shadeslayer^^00:09
tsimonq2when I can legally buy you beer, I owe you one shadeslayer 00:10
tsimonq2seriously00:10
tsimonq2thanks man00:10
valoriecome back for the champagne if the release team gives us any of this for our beta00:10
tsimonq2^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^00:10
shadeslayerhaha np00:10
tsimonq2shadeslayer: since you probably don't know me, I'm Simon Quigley. I'm an Assistant Release Manager (or at least that's what I call myself ;) ) for Lubuntu, and I'm a ninja as of like a month00:11
tsimonq2I'm 14, to clear up the beer thing :P00:11
shadeslayerahhhh :D00:11
shadeslayerI guess Quintasan loses youngest-kubuntu-person-ever tag00:11
tsimonq2oh?00:12
tsimonq2how old was he?00:12
QuintasanDo I?00:12
tsimonq2Quintasan: I'm 1400:12
shadeslayerQuintasan: how old were you when you joined?00:12
shadeslayer15? 16?00:12
Quintasanlemme look00:12
shadeslayerI think it went, Quintasan, me, sitter ....00:12
valoriehi Quintasan00:12
shadeslayeridk how old yofel is, I think just about my age00:12
valorienice to see ya00:12
shadeslayerthough then again, I actually don't know how old sitter is00:13
Quintasan>Member since:00:13
Quintasan2006-10-0700:13
Quintasanhmm00:13
acheronukyofel = 28ish?00:13
QuintasanThat's actually my launchpad account00:13
tsimonq2Quintasan: what's your DOB?00:13
Quintasan199300:13
tsimonq213...?00:14
QuintasanSo 10 years ago I was like00:14
Quintasan1300:14
Quintasanlol00:14
valoriea baby!00:14
tsimonq2nooooooooooooooooooooo you keep the title :P00:14
shadeslayerMember since: 2007-08-0600:14
shadeslayerI joined when I was 1700:14
valorieso mature you were00:14
valorielol00:14
shadeslayerI feel old00:14
shadeslayerwhere's my walking stick00:15
valoriedon't you even start00:15
mparilloRemember smartboyhw. Another young guy. He came out of nowhere, packaged up a storm, and then I lost track.00:15
tsimonq2you're old enough to buy me beer ;) ;) ;) ;)))))))))))))00:15
* tsimonq2 is joking00:15
valoriehis parents made him quit00:15
shadeslayertsimonq2: depends on where :P00:15
shadeslayervalorie: oh? :C00:15
tsimonq2valorie: huh?!?00:15
mparilloAhh, so very asian.00:15
shadeslayersounds terribly like what my parents did00:15
valoriethey said he needed to focus on his studies00:15
shadeslayerkept taking away my router00:15
Quintasantsimonq2: Technically we'd have to check when I joined Kubuntu Members but my membership could have expired or something.00:15
valorieand get into a good uni00:16
mparilloIn the US, we call them tiger moms.00:16
valorieshadeslayer: lol00:16
valoriesounds like your parents knew their way around technology00:16
tsimonq2so my parents *tried* that, they've pretty much accepted the fact that this is what I'm doing when I grow up, more experience :P00:16
shadeslayerQuintasan: Michał Zając2009-04-1500:16
tsimonq2so I get to do whatever I want as long as I get good grades00:16
QuintasanWell, one more year and I'll be getting my masters in quantum crypto and I can go back to some serious development.00:16
valorieoooo00:17
tsimonq2:D00:17
valoriesounds serious00:17
shadeslayervalorie: yeah, not exactly00:17
Quintasanshadeslayer: I'm not sure whether my membership didn't expire at some point.00:17
shadeslayerdidn't really stop me00:17
shadeslayerQuintasan: expires next year00:17
valorieQuintasan: you are still a Kubuntu Developer00:17
tsimonq2such slow, very wow00:17
shadeslayerQuintasan: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/+members00:17
valoriefeel free to come to clivejo's meeting and torture him00:17
shadeslayertsimonq2: I can try and scp it if you want00:17
shadeslayerif it's done00:17
shadeslayeralso, tea over :C00:18
tsimonq2well it's not done yet lol00:18
shadeslayeroh ok00:18
Quintasanvalorie: I do realise that. I was talking about my Kubuntu Members membership in the past.00:18
valorieah00:18
shadeslayertsimonq2: lets pick up tomorrow then, alternately, email me a link00:18
QuintasanI'm pretty much sure I had to renew my MOTU membership somewhere near XMass some time ago lol00:18
tsimonq2shadeslayer: what time?00:18
shadeslayertsimonq2: I'm going to be here from 10 AM to 5 PM00:19
tsimonq2shadeslayer: 5:30 AM Tuesday is 10:30 AM Tuesday, Coordinated Universal Time (UTC)00:19
tsimonq2that's my TZ00:19
tsimonq2shadeslayer: UTC? what?00:19
shadeslayertsimonq2: CEST00:19
tsimonq2ah cool00:19
Quintasantsimonq2: I'm pretty much sure you can beat me on the youngest-kubuntu-developer tag.00:20
shadeslayertsimonq2: though we don't need to be online at the same time?00:20
tsimonq2shadeslayer: I'll wake up early for school then00:20
tsimonq2shadeslayer: I have to get up at 5:30 AM for school X__X00:20
tsimonq23 AM my time is 10 AM your time00:20
shadeslayerif you just finish up and send email me a link I'll be able to upload it00:20
tsimonq2ok00:20
shadeslayerchesus christ00:20
QuintasanI think it took me like 2 years to get there.00:20
valoriesimon was working in lubuntu before he started helping us here00:21
* shadeslayer out00:21
shadeslayernight everyone :)00:21
Quintasanwoah00:21
valorieo/00:21
Quintasanit's two in the morning here00:21
tsimonq2o/00:21
Quintasanshadeslayer: night00:21
shadeslayerQuintasan: indeed00:21
valoriesweet dreams, guys00:21
valorielovely to see you here again00:21
QuintasanI've been dreaming about failing my masters lately lol00:22
valoriepffff00:22
valoriethat means you won't fail00:22
QuintasanI picked up some books about my thesis and I'm like: "I know SOME of those words"00:22
QuintasanAnd by "some" I mean I can read the table of contents and still manage not to understand what's going on.00:23
valoriepart of the process is to destroy your brain00:23
valorieand then rebuild it after you're done00:24
QuintasanI still have a year.00:24
valorieso you just have to gibber like an idiot defending your thesis00:24
QuintasanTruth be told I'm majoring in artificial intelligence but my thesis is about quantum cryptography00:24
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_merger build #671: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_merger/671/00:24
valorieQuintasan: can you break Telegram yet?00:25
Quintasanvalorie: I don't think anyone can actually break Telegram without knowing how it works. It'd be easier to hack their servers I guess.00:25
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_discover build #34: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 0 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_discover/34/00:26
valorieyeah00:26
QuintasanThat said I'd still use Signal over Telegram any time since they don't rely on security through obscurity.00:26
valorieI do use signal for private stuff00:26
valorietelegram is fine for IRC bridge00:26
valoriecertainly more secure than good old IRCd00:27
QuintasanTo think I'm still occupying yofel's Quassel core00:27
QuintasanIt's been like 6 years lol00:28
QuintasanThanks yofel.00:28
valorieheck, if it works.....00:28
* valorie goes off to get dinner00:30
valorieo/00:30
Quintasanand I'll be going off to the dream land00:30
Quintasan\o00:30
valoriesweet dreams00:30
QuintasanThanks!00:30
valorielovely to see you again00:30
acheronuktsimonq2: so what have you tar'd up for Rohan?00:32
tsimonq2acheronuk: working on it00:35
acheronukwhat precisely?00:36
tsimonq2ok, while it's going I'll explain00:36
tsimonq2I'm doing apps00:36
tsimonq2it froze at one point00:36
acheronukwe can't upload apps00:37
tsimonq2we can't upload apps?00:37
tsimonq2we can't upload apps00:37
tsimonq2that's right00:37
tsimonq2we need the FFe approved...00:37
acheronukyes00:37
acheronukso what are you giving Rohan?00:38
tsimonq2Plasma 5.7.5 then00:38
tsimonq2I have to tweak the script00:38
tsimonq2want to watch me work? come into my linode00:39
tsimonq2acheronuk: I would have done Frameworks but sgclark said she would do it00:42
tsimonq2epochs00:44
tsimonq2:/00:44
tsimonq2I need to tweak the script *again*00:44
acheronuktsimonq2: why are you altering the changelogs?00:54
tsimonq2acheronuk: didn't detect epochs before afair01:01
tsimonq2that would have been a disaster01:01
tsimonq2acheronuk: oh and btw, I type with two fingers01:02
acheronukLOL01:02
tsimonq2and I'm STILL faster than you :P01:02
acheronukI need to learn to touchtype, but have failed miserably whenever I tried01:03
tsimonq2me too01:03
acheronukdoesn't help that it's 2 am here and my finders are more asleep than I am01:04
acheronuk*fingers01:04
acheronuksee01:04
tsimonq2I took a video of me typing01:05
tsimonq2it's uploading on Telegram now01:05
tsimonq2it'll be in the channel soon01:05
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> can see it coming01:05
tsimonq2acheronuk: look at linode01:07
tsimonq2should that be done?01:07
tsimonq2maybe not?01:07
acheronukwait a sec01:08
tsimonq2don't fall asleep now acheronuk :P01:09
acheronukwhere did it pull that git from?01:10
acheronukI know santa was making a change01:10
tsimonq2kubuntu_yakkety_archive01:10
acheronuksanta made changes and uploaded to the ppa, but didn't push to git it seems01:12
tsimonq2nice :/01:13
acheronuksanta_: Are you lurking?01:13
tsimonq2acheronuk: skipping for now01:13
tsimonq2acheronuk: so then who signs these packages before they're pushed into the archive?01:14
acheronukshadeslayer01:14
tsimonq2...really?01:14
tsimonq2ok01:14
acheronukyes as if not signed by him them would get rejected01:15
tsimonq2ah yes that's right I remember now ok cool k nice *thumbs up* any other random positive thoughts yayayayayay01:15
acheronuk*they would01:15
* tsimonq2 nods01:15
acheronukcan't remember how you override the signing, but you cam01:16
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @tsimonq2, @acheronuk01:16
tsimonq2I trusly believed I typed slow before actually seeing myself type on this01:16
tsimonq2*truly01:17
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> not bad with 2 fingers. lol01:18
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> And I'm usually faster01:20
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I was just holding my phone with my chin :P01:20
tsimonq2sgclark: ping, if you could upload Frameworks, that would be awesome01:29
tsimonq2acheronuk: still about?01:32
acheronukyes.just01:32
tsimonq2it's ready :)01:33
acheronuksgclark: as per santa's email here, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2016-September/010734.html Frameworks 5.26 the branch kubuntu_yakkety_backports01:35
acheronukwhich now seems odd01:35
acheronuktsimonq2: good :)01:36
tsimonq2http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimonq2/plasma-5.7.5.tar.gz01:36
tsimonq2ready to grab and upload01:36
tsimonq2acheronuk: I have perks as an Ubuntu member >;)01:36
tsimonq2shadeslayer: http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimonq2/plasma-5.7.5.tar.gz - here you go01:38
tsimonq2acheronuk: sweet dreams01:38
acheronukso for frameworks, if it goes for upload then as the git was done in kubuntu_yakkety_backports (copy of archive) to preserve the archive branch, then that should cleanly merge back into archive?01:58
tsimonq2most likely yes01:58
acheronukjust tested that locally on plasma-framework and it did cleanly making both identical01:59
acheronukclive pointed out today that normal workflow would have been to tag instead, so keeping it all in _archive, and being able to revert to the tagged version if the FW 5.26 merge and builds did not work out02:01
valorieI think we need to document this02:02
tsimonq2^ +100000002:02
valorieit's very confusing for me02:03
valorieimo if you are going to tar up everything else, you should do FW too, and then shoot an email to sgclark and see if she already uploaded or not02:03
valoriethat way if she has not, rohan can do it02:04
tsimonq2tomorrow morning I promise :P02:04
valorie\o/02:05
acheronuktsimonq2: you pushed the tags, or going to wait until actually uploaded for sure?02:06
tsimonq2acheronuk: the second part02:06
acheronukok02:06
valoriethat seems wise02:07
tsimonq2yeah, I only pushed one thing02:09
tsimonq2when we rewrite that part of KCI, it should automatically merge whatever is in the archive to kubuntu_yakkety_archive02:09
tsimonq2saves us a LOT of issues02:09
tsimonq2I'm off to bed02:14
tsimonq2thanks a lot for your help today everyone02:14
tsimonq2hopefully we can make more progress tomorrow02:14
tsimonq2o/02:15
valorieniters simon02:15
valoriethanks for YOUR help today02:15
valoriesweet dreams02:15
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> We all owe each other beers in a couple years I think ;)02:16
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> o/02:16
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> when you see that the KDE Phabricator default new account icons are pokemon...03:27
valorieahoneybun: lol03:57
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> did you see it03:58
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> ?03:58
valorieI've not yet seen it03:58
valorielink03:58
valorie?03:58
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> working on it04:00
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> need to take a screenshot04:00
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> omg 12am04:00
valorienah, only 9!04:01
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> not here04:01
valorieI know04:01
valorieyou're on the wrong side of the continent!04:01
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/a/dpHX104:02
valorieoh wow04:04
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> XD yep04:04
valorieI wonder how old the programmers of that thing are04:04
valorielol04:04
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> well with Pokemon GO now lol04:04
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> who knows04:04
* ahoneybun enters sleep mode04:05
valoriesweet dreams ahoneybun04:05
santa_ugh, just woke up in the middle of the night04:36
santa_sorry about not pushing plasma-discover04:36
santa_tsimonq2: I see you pushed what's in the ppa, maybe we should strip the ~ubuntyX~ppaX suffix?04:36
valorieit is the middle of the night for him04:37
santa_ /o\04:45
santa_someone already uploaded -discover04:46
valorie:(04:46
santa_without the fix04:46
santa_https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover04:47
santa_and for some reason this isn't reported in the status page04:47
santa_tsimonq2: around?04:47
valorieweird04:47
valoriehe's asleep04:47
valoriehe promised to be up early though to send the links to Rohan (shadeslayer)04:48
valoriesanta_: what is the right thing to do about discover?04:48
valoriefixed is better IMO04:48
santa_what's his timezone?04:49
valoriemmm, maybe Central US04:49
santa_in utc offset being?04:49
valorieEDT - http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_US-MI.aspx04:50
santa_ah nevermind05:03
santa_the uploaded version is 5.7.205:04
santa_it wasn't done by us but it's 5.7.205:04
santa_valorie: ok, so I'll talk to simon to strip the ~ubuntuXppaX suffix and that's it05:04
santa_even if it's accidentally uploaded with that version it can be corrrected uploading the right version, so no prob05:05
valoriecool05:05
santa_tsimonq2: ping when you are awake please05:05
santa_* ping me05:06
valorieare you upstreaming your patch, santa_?05:06
santa_it's a packaging patch, so nothing to upstream05:06
valorieah ok05:06
santa_I just added a couple of transitional packages to not get plasma-discover on hold or removed by pkg managers05:06
valorieI see05:07
acheronuksanta_: I think Simon included your fix by applying the diff the upload script spat out?06:22
acheronukhttps://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/discover/commit/?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=80adc7ebffb9cca023e4feb226fc831c2343fa3206:43
acheronukclivejo shadeslayer valorie et al : Response to Apps FFe from release team https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/1625756/comments/206:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1625756 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "[FFe] KDE Applications into the Yakkety archive (including KDEpim)" [Undecided,New]06:48
valorieyofel: please reply to that as soon as you can06:49
* valorie has to sleep soon06:49
valoriewe've been testing FW for so long.....06:50
valorieok, heading to bed, hoping for good news in the morning07:20
vipHi ho08:15
santa_acheronuk: yes but the ppa suffix must be removed08:16
acheronuksanta_: it was08:16
santa_acheronuk: it's not, see the diff you linked ;)08:19
acheronuksanta_: from the tar'd sources Simon did http://paste.ubuntu.com/23210532/08:20
santa_oh, ok08:20
santa_I will remove it from git then08:21
acheronuksanta_: Simon has yet to git tag and mark as released. waiting to make sure we get the upload first08:21
santa_ok, better08:21
santa_I didn't want because I suspected simons tar built sources would have it08:21
santa_we also must merge everything in _archive08:22
acheronukyes, we must08:22
santa_we will do that after the uploads08:22
acheronukand to xenial_backports08:23
acheronukas backports should really be done from there08:24
santa_yes, maybe08:24
acheronukyes, definitely. eventually08:24
acheronuknot super critical now08:25
acheronukI have to go for 1-2 hrs. hope some stuff can go up :)08:25
shadeslayertsimonq2: I'm uploading plasma 5.7.508:36
shadeslayertsimonq2: upload done08:38
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @shadeslayer, Thank you :)08:41
shadeslayeryw08:41
TomTomhi there, any idea when kmail 5.2 will be part of kubuntu? i've got 16.04 with backports ppa08:47
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @TomTom, backports newer than what we have in our develeopment version don't go in that ppa as policy. they are being done/staged/tested and hopefuly won't be too long, but can't give an exact ETA right now08:54
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @TomTom, at the moment we are trying to get things like that in the dev version (Yakkety)08:55
TomTomthanks for the information09:01
clivejowhy is KCI paused?10:21
clivejoacheronuk: KCI pause started by you?10:25
clivejoat 00:03 this morning10:26
acheronukclivejo: nope10:33
acheronukSimon I guess10:34
acheronukhttp://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_pause_integration/144/10:34
acheronukStarted by user Simon Quigley10:35
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Hey hey hey10:45
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> santa_: I pushed only one or two things to Git...10:45
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Waiting until it all migrated from proposed10:45
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> And for the record, I'm central time US and I wake up at around 5:3010:45
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Yeah that was me acheronuk10:46
acheronukgetting notified of a few failures on deps10:46
acheronukon armhf mostly for some reason10:47
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/285749759/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-armhf.kgamma5_4%3A5.7.5-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz10:48
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> The following packages have unmet dependencies:10:49
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk>  sbuild-build-depends-kgamma5-dummy : Depends: libkf5kdelibs4support-dev (>= 5.24.0~) but it is not going to be installed10:49
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.10:49
tsimonq2"Yakkety Yak (16.10) Final Beta Freeze" YAY :/10:50
tsimonq2There is no sensible review that the release team can do on this massive10:51
tsimonq2list of packages and major updates. Most of them are leaf packages, so10:51
tsimonq2it seems reasonably safe to update them one by one as long as they get10:51
tsimonq2tested.10:51
tsimonq2Less sure about central libraries like kde4libs, kderuntime, kdepim,10:51
tsimonq2kde-l10n, etc -- these affect large parts of the desktop, thus need10:51
tsimonq2deeper testing. From my experience, every major KDE update causes a10:51
tsimonq2bunch of test regressions which need to be actually looked at, otherwise10:51
tsimonq2these packages get stuck in -proposed for weeks again. If you can commit10:51
tsimonq2to that, fine (and I'd like to reserve the right to remove those from10:51
tsimonq2-proposed which do cause regressions and are stuck for more than two10:51
tsimonq2weeks).10:51
tsimonq2Other than these remarks, I consider the Kubuntu team self-sustained in10:51
tsimonq2this regard -- if https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/+members want to do10:51
tsimonq2this update, go ahead.10:51
tsimonq2that's from Martin Pitt ^10:51
tsimonq2santa_, acheronuk, clivejo, shadeslayer: that's his deal ^10:52
acheronukyes, I saw10:53
tsimonq2acheronuk: I'll prep Frameworks for shadeslayer or sgclark, can you tar up apps in my linode when I'm done then use sftp to get it on my people.ubuntu.com ?10:54
clivejoself-sustained?10:54
tsimonq2clivejo: we can upload when we wish10:54
tsimonq2that's what I think Martin said yesterday10:54
shadeslayertsimonq2: wfm10:55
shadeslayertsimonq2: though we're in freeze10:55
shadeslayerlet me ask infinity if we can upload frameworks10:55
acheronuktsimonq2: If a kubuntu dev(s) is/are prepared to put their name to it10:55
tsimonq2good idea shadeslayer 10:55
tsimonq2acheronuk: well we have shadeslayer who we need to buy beers ;)))10:56
acheronuktsimonq2: which was sgclark's issue10:56
tsimonq2s/beers/beers for/10:56
shadeslayerI'm around till 5 btw10:56
shadeslayerthen I have to leave10:56
Mirvsorry, there were so many highlights I wasn't sure if there was a direct question somewhere :) sure I can help with at least single bugfix uploads. the trouble with tens of packages is that the uploader is responsible always regardless of good intentions, and without the "vested interest" I don't have that much time to sorting out lots of issues. but I'm happy to help in any small bugfix uploads.10:56
tsimonq2I'm around for the next half an hour10:56
acheronukMirv: thanks and understood10:57
tsimonq2shadeslayer: please also ask him if he can let Plasma 5.7.5 migrate already :/10:57
tsimonq2thanks Mirv :)10:57
Mirvalso I'm still slightly traumatized by the whole Qt 5.6 + KF + Plasma transition ;)10:57
shadeslayertsimonq2: that's already in afaik10:57
shadeslayeri.e. it hit the buildd's this morning10:57
tsimonq2not acording to http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html ?10:57
shadeslayerabout a hour before freeze10:57
tsimonq2lol10:57
shadeslayerahh10:57
acheronuktsimonq2: there are dep probs on armhf, so that may not happen10:57
Mirvtsimonq2: excuses is a quite slow, everything needs to build first (1-2h), then published in proposed (1-2h), then visible on excuses page (1-2h)10:58
tsimonq2acheronuk: which is why freezes suck when trying to land things :P10:58
tsimonq2I see Mirv, makes sense10:58
acheronuktsimonq2 Mirv may need help with such as: http://i.imgur.com/5H6BHWV.png11:03
Mirvacheronuk: it seems the first one is a dependency issue but for some reason marked as a failure instead of depwait. anyway, I'm happy to be your rebuild triggering monkey if you need help. you'll just need to wade through the dependency chains to find any problems. urls to direct version pages like https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ksysguard/4:5.7.5-0ubuntu1 appreciated.11:05
acheronukMirv: very much appreciated. I hope you would say something like that :)11:06
shadeslayertsimonq2: plasma-discover is a bit buggered, please see #ubuntu-release11:07
shadeslayersanta_: ^^11:07
tsimonq2that's santa_'s doing11:11
tsimonq2I *specifically* remember it11:11
tsimonq2!info breeze-icons11:19
ubottuPackage breeze-icons does not exist in yakkety11:19
tsimonq2!info baloo-kf511:19
ubottubaloo-kf5 (source: baloo-kf5): framework for searching and managing metadata. In component universe, is extra. Version 5.24.0-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 263 kB, installed size 1717 kB11:19
tsimonq2well then why...11:19
clivejotsimonq2: are you done with KCI?11:24
tsimonq2clivejo: nope, all hell will break loose when Git changes are pushed11:27
tsimonq2it *hopefully* will be good to go before the nightly11:28
tsimonq2acheronuk: to get access to people.ubuntu.com, run sftp tsimonq2@people.ubuntu.com in linode, cd into public_html, and "put" anything you want11:28
tsimonq2I trust you with that11:29
tsimonq2use it to get this done ;)11:29
tsimonq2acheronuk: otherwise if you could stage apps and frameworks, that would be aweoms11:30
tsimonq2*awesome11:30
tsimonq2I would suggest using my linode as it has access to my people.ubuntu.com like I said before, and it's pretty easy to get tars to people that way11:31
tsimonq2and I can check up on ya ;)11:31
tsimonq2acheronuk: anything you put in that dir is accessible on people.ubuntu.com/~tsimonq2/FILE btw11:33
tsimonq2o/11:36
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> acheronuk: http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/#kubuntu11:53
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Some packages still haven't landed from when 5.24 was uploaded...11:56
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BluesKajHiyas all12:15
sgclarkhey all, did I see a green light? and a successful recruit of shadeslayer? Still want me to take on frameworks?12:29
shadeslayerI haven't uploaded frameworks12:29
sgclarkoh I only see approval for apps, I can't commit to that, you got those shadeslayer?12:31
shadeslayerif you send me a tar I can upload yeah12:31
sgclarkI cannot send anything. have not been involved here either12:31
sgclarkperhaps someone is working on that12:32
sgclarkacheronuk: tsimonq2 clivejo ^ ?12:32
acheronuktrying to make the FW tar, but having hassle with the script 12:32
sgclarkok12:32
sgclarkwell I only see approval for apps, and shadeslayer is will to take that on with tars12:33
sgclarkwilling*12:33
acheronuksanta_: you about?12:37
BluesKajYakkety's new kernel updtae didn't help X much. The freeze came early for me ..freeze out that is :-)12:38
BluesKajhey sgclark ..LTNS 12:39
sgclarkhowdy12:39
acheronukGrr. on the machine I might be able to build on, I can't upload. On the machine that can upload, can't build. 12:46
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clivejotsimonq2: are you pushing to git?13:37
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santa_back on the keyboard13:53
santa_acheronuk: what is the problem with discover?13:53
acheronuksanta_: not sure. shadeslayer and infinity on #ubuntu-release know I hope13:55
clivejosanta_: regarding discover, KDE have released the KDE Store and apparently its integrated into the new discover 13:55
shadeslayeryou have transitional packages that do not depend on anything13:55
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shadeslayerwhich is pointless13:55
santa_nonsense13:56
santa_without it the breaks/replaces will make the package manager want to remove plasma-discover13:57
acheronukYay! I can build the frameworks sources here locally, but can't upload them anywhere!14:00
* acheronuk mutters14:00
shadeslayersanta_: no, transitional packages without depends are nonsense14:01
shadeslayerwhat you need to investigate is why it wants to remove discover14:01
santa_sigh14:01
santa_shadeslayer: because of the breaks against14:03
santa_Package: plasma-discover-common14:03
santa_Architecture: all14:03
santa_Depends: ${misc:Depends}14:03
santa_Breaks: muon-common (<< 4:5.5.3a),14:03
santa_        plasma-discover (<< 5.7.0-2),14:03
santa_        plasma-discover-private (<< 5.7.0),14:03
santa_        plasma-discover-updater (<< 5.7.0)14:03
santa_Replaces: muon-common (<< 4:5.5.3a),14:03
santa_          plasma-discover (<< 5.7.0-2),14:03
santa_          plasma-discover-private (<< 5.7.0),14:03
santa_          plasma-discover-updater (<< 5.7.0)14:03
shadeslayerpastebin :<14:03
santa_shadeslayer: ↑ that's why14:03
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shadeslayerno that makes no sense, it specifically breaks 5.7.014:03
shadeslayerso something like 5.7.5 should be fine?14:03
santa_it does14:03
santa_they were dropped14:04
santa_last version was less than 5.7.014:04
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santa_plasma-discover in xenial depends on -private and -update14:05
santa_so it wants to remove them14:05
santa_and it wants to remove -discover as well, which is not the right thing to do14:06
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santa_shadeslayer: but if the no depends is going to harm anynone's "religious believings" I guess we can make the -private and -update transitionals depend on -discover14:08
santa_as long as it works the same, fine14:08
shadeslayerhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover14:08
shadeslayerhas 5.7.2 in the release14:09
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IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> clivejo: waiting for everything to be accepted first14:21
clivejoIve unpaused KCI as I wanted to build a few packages14:21
clivejopause it again when you do the push14:22
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acheronuktsimonq2: had to revert this https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kconfigwidgets/commit/?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=7f9f1d50bed295c70c4873c3ee6092a14e011a7214:35
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santa_shadeslayer: just got to read the #u-release irc logs. as I said I disagree very much with the statement "Transitional packages with no dependencies are exactly 100% useless."[1]. the reaon is that without the transitional packages apt-get wants to remove plasma-discover, with them it behaves as expected keeping -discover installed. on the other hand we depend on the release team "accepting" our stuff. so how do you want to proceed? 14:46
santa_should I talk to them directly? any other idea?14:46
santa_[1] https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/09/21/%23ubuntu-release.html#t11:0314:46
shadeslayerI agree with the release team here14:47
shadeslayerwithout logs or any other data14:47
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santa_shadeslayer: have you tried both the dist-upgrades without the dummy transitionals and with it?14:48
shadeslayer maybe something else is removing it, in which case we're just masking the issue14:48
shadeslayernope, I don't have a kubuntu system anymore14:49
shadeslayerI am also out of time for today to look into it14:50
santa_I did, obviously I tested the thing before doing it. so do you want the pastes from apt-get output's with and without the transitionals14:50
acheronukare we still uploading frameworks?14:50
shadeslayersanta_: yes, with full debug info14:59
shadeslayerwith the apt pkgproblemresolver debug14:59
santa_tsimonq2: have you unpushed changes to discover? because right now the _archive branch contains the ppa version suffix15:15
acheronuksanta_: I found the same in kconfigwidgets and had to revert that15:17
acheronukppa version I mean15:18
acheronuknot sure if simon was trying to hack around failures of the upload script or something?15:19
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @acheronuk, Ok15:20
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @acheronuk, Yeah I tried a few tricks earlier that didn't work15:21
santa_tsimonq2: what should we do with discover?15:27
santa_with the git repo I mean15:27
acheronukshadeslayer: can we still upload frameworks?15:30
shadeslayersure 15:30
shadeslayerit'll just hit the queue15:30
BluesKaj_santa_, throw it out , restore muon original to the default package list 15:30
acheronukshadeslayer: I had to cobble this together via remote and local sources due to big tars I can handle, but I *think* this is good to go http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimonq2/frameworks-5.26.tar.gz15:31
acheronuk*I can't handle15:32
shadeslayerI don't think I can do it right now, but /perhaps/ later tonight15:32
acheronukThey are signed by me, but that doesn't matter as you overide?15:32
shadeslayerelse tomorrow15:32
shadeslayeracheronuk: yes15:32
acheronukshadeslayer: If we are in the freeze, there is not hurry then. Gives me time to treble/quadruple check them as well15:33
shadeslayersure thing15:35
santa_BluesKaj_: that brings the issue back, have you tested the dist-upgrades?15:36
acheronukshadeslayer: thank you :)15:37
shadeslayeryw15:37
BluesKaj_santa_, sorry ??15:39
santa_<BluesKaj_> santa_, throw it out , restore muon original to the default package list 15:39
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IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Good stuff y'all16:17
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> So let me get this straight, landing plasma but not Frameworks?16:18
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> ?!?16:19
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> And will Apps wait as well?16:19
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @acheronuk santa_ shadeslayer ^16:19
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Pass in time overg16:19
santa_tsimonq2: I know that plasma was uploaded and its in proposed, so let's make sure the git is in sync with the archive16:21
acheronukMeeting @ 7pm. How much of that is needed for podcast discussion?16:36
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IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> What time in my TX?17:14
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> *TZ17:14
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @tsimonq2, 1pm I think?17:23
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @acheronuk, In 30 mins?17:25
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @tsimonq2, Yes. 7pm UK time17:26
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> OK, Kubuntu Podcast?17:26
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> 8pm UK time, assuming it is happening17:26
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> ...then what is this meeting?!?17:27
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> Core Team Meeting. usually proceeds the podcast to sort out what goes in and other stuff17:28
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Oh ok17:29
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> I need coffee and food beforehand!17:32
tsimonq2acheronuk: so we have Frameworks and Plasma uploaded or in the process of being uploaded, right?17:36
tsimonq2acheronuk: what about apps?17:36
tsimonq2I hope KCI can keep up lol17:42
tsimonq2I'm pushing plasma now17:42
tsimonq2I'll tag when I get home (in an hour) if I still have to17:43
tsimonq2acheronuk: should I push frameworks as well?17:44
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acheronuktsimonq2: You can't push frameworks, and please don't. It's tagged locally on my machine here, not linode 17:45
acheronukRohan may upload tomorrow, and I want time to double check it.17:46
acheronukAt this point with freeze in place it will just sit in a queue anyway, not no point breaking our necks on it.17:47
tsimonq2sounds good acheronuk 17:47
tsimonq2what about apps? what's our plan for that?17:48
acheronuknot sure if Rohan agreed to that one explicitly, but we shall see. same applies17:48
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Ok17:49
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> That meaning you have it locally?17:49
tsimonq2acheronuk: or does that still need to be prepared?17:50
acheronuknot done yet. I had to mess about enough getting frameworks done. fell back to my local machine as I know that works fine17:51
tsimonq2ok17:52
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tsimonq2pushing tags now18:06
tsimonq2I'm off o/18:07
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> And I just realized I made a terrible mess...18:10
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I'll fix it later18:10
acheronukEEK! ^^^^18:10
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IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> Kubuntu Podcast #16 is live now. Join us http://www.youtube.com/c/KubuntuPodcast/live19:00
valorieso folks, we're in beta freeze and none of our stuff got in?19:00
clivejoRohan uploaded plasma 5.7.5 I believe19:02
acheronukyes ^^^19:02
clivejoOMG Im deaf19:03
acheronukdistortion!19:03
aektzisme too lol19:04
=== aektzis is now known as jimarvan
jimarvanwhy the kubuntu podcast on google plus is private for friends?19:04
jimarvanshouldn't be shared publicly?19:04
acheronukvalorie: the timing sucked19:04
mamarleyDid somebody put the mic too close to the speaker?19:04
jimarvanno mic on my side19:05
jimarvanwho's to blame?19:05
IrcsomeBot<marcinsagol> @Sick_Rimmit no voice from you on stream19:05
acheronukvalorie: but I *hope* we should be in better shape for after the freeze19:07
soeecan you hear Rick on stream?19:07
soeethers no voice when he talks19:07
valorieeek, I can't hear anything now19:07
soee:D19:07
valorieboth my volume controls are at top19:08
valorieyay, for a moment....19:08
jimarvanyes i can confirm19:11
jimarvanno audio on youtube except ovidiu19:11
jimarvanLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL19:12
jimarvani need a screenshot of aaron19:13
jimarvan:D19:13
valoriewooooo19:13
soeesound!19:13
jimarvanperfect19:13
jimarvanworks now19:13
jimarvangj19:13
soeemagic hat helped ..19:13
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/o7dBPmFW/file_560.jpg19:15
jimarvan<3 u19:15
valoriesanta_: PM19:17
soeehttps://www.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2016/Program/xdc-2016-prime-sync.pdf19:21
jimarvan:O19:23
jimarvanwhat is that soee???19:23
jimarvanI am getting my MSI GT73VR 6RF tomorrow I want to know everything 19:24
jimarvannvm talk to you after podcast19:24
clivejoJim asked for it!19:25
jimarvanso awesome screen shot, like a boss19:25
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I'm a boss19:28
jimarvan:D19:29
valorie@ahoneybun - The Boss19:31
jimarvanhahahahaha19:32
jimarvan:D19:32
jimarvanOMG19:32
valoriewhat happened to my sound?19:32
madwizardCoffee19:32
madwizardIt will fix it19:32
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> yes valorie!19:33
valorieamen Rick, and madwizard19:33
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jimarvanvalorie is there any photos from this year's akademy?20:00
jimarvanlike on kde.org somewhere?20:00
jimarvanto paste it on youtube live?20:00
valorieoh, I think there are links somewhere20:00
valorielet me look20:01
valorieI've not organized mine at all yet20:01
acheronukhttps://community.kde.org/Akademy/2016/Photos20:01
jimarvanthank you20:03
jimarvani will paste it now20:03
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie, He was lucky I wasn't there :P20:09
clivejoFrom Scarlett:20:16
clivejoBad news, my internet went boom this morning and I fear it is not coming back. Already capped my data on phone which got in trouble. Please inform I don't know if I can upload kf5 sorry.20:16
acheronukwell, looks like shadeslayer has agreed to doing that20:17
acheronukPoor Scarlett though... :(20:17
clivejoyeah, I wanna hug her, but theres too many miles between us now20:18
valorietelegram=zero miles!20:21
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> When I grow up I'm getting 2 gigabit connections20:22
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> It'll be worth the 100s of dollars a month20:22
valorieI have a friend who does that20:23
valorieruns a small business on it, and swears it is worth the money20:23
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clivejoacheronuk: ping20:32
* tsimonq2 gives sgclark virtual hugs20:33
acheronukclivejo: pong20:33
clivejocan I rubber duck something with you?20:34
clivejohttp://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_discover/20:34
acheronukI still have to give that phrase a few moments thought each time. lol20:34
acheronuk@rubber duck' means bathtime20:35
acheronukUrghhhhhh! discover!20:36
clivejoyeah, I pushed a fix to that install file earlier on today, but its not working20:36
clivejowhat am I missing?20:36
valoriesanta_ was still working on it last I heard20:37
clivejovalorie: this is unstable version20:37
acheronukhmm. lots of uninstalled jpgs20:37
santa_yes I'm trying to figure out the -discover removal20:37
clivejoI wanted to get a FFe for the lastest git version so that we can have KDE Store support in Yakkety20:37
tsimonq2valorie, clivejo, acheronuk, santa_: as discussed in the meeting, please someone send something to the ML asking for testing20:38
tsimonq2for beta 220:38
tsimonq2send to kubuntu-devel and kubuntu-users20:38
tsimonq2we *need* testing20:38
tsimonq2this is a final beta!20:38
valorie!testing20:39
ubottuTo test your hardware, you can use the packages memtest86+ (for memory, can be started from the !GRUB boot menu), smartmontools (for hard drives), cpuburn (which MIGHT damage your processor if cooling is not adequate!). Additionally, lm-sensors can be useful to monitor temperatures and fan speeds - See also !benchmark20:39
valorieno, that was the wrong command, sorry20:39
valorietsimonq2: I'll do it right now20:40
clivejo!testers20:43
ubottuHelp is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip, mparillo for information20:43
mamarleyWhat needs testing?20:43
clivejoFW 5.26 and Plasma 5.7.520:43
mamarleyAlready testing. :)20:44
clivejome too20:44
clivejonow running on valories drives :)20:44
valorieweeeee!20:45
valoriemy poor broken laptop still lives!20:45
clivejodoes indeed!20:46
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Yakkety images20:46
acheronukUmm.Not sure why those files are not installing clivejo 20:47
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Just from the archive20:47
clivejome neither20:47
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> That's what ships, and that's what needs testing20:47
* clivejo scratches head20:47
valoriehttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ & http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/367/builds are the links you need, testers20:47
clivejoCommit 123619c9a91a6b1bb1462c62b835919d9697fbd5 by Simon Quigley20:48
clivejoNOCI Release to yakkety.20:48
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=123619&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 12361920:48
clivejoWTF20:48
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Thank you valorie20:48
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Oh no, what did I do /o\20:48
clivejooh20:49
clivejowe have two repos20:49
clivejoplasma-discover and discover20:49
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santa_clivejo: we must use discover to not break KA, that's the current upstream name20:51
acheronukclivejo: this is from the KCI workspace: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_discover/ws/packaging/debian/plasma-discover.install20:51
clivejoyeah, dunno why I was using the other20:51
acheronukindeed20:52
valoriecan we just get rid of the one with the wrong/old/outmoded name?20:52
acheronukclivejo: ah. I now read up and see you discovered the same thing20:52
clivejovalorie: done20:53
valoriethank you clivejo!20:53
clivejothats better20:57
valoriezsyncing the beta!20:59
valorieI just got some new thumbdrives which should help20:59
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jimarvanthank you all guys :D21:05
jimarvangood night talk to you tomorrow21:05
valoriethe 64-bit took awhile to dl, but zyncing the 32-bit is almost done21:05
valorieniters jimarvan21:06
jimarvan<321:06
santa_YES!21:09
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> ?21:09
santa_I think I have a proper solution for discover now, I need to rest a bit and brb in less than one hour21:10
santa_tsimonq2: apt-get wants to remove it on dist-upgrades from xenial to yakkety21:10
santa_I'll come back soon21:10
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clivejo/«BUILDDIR»/plasma-discover-5.7.5+p16.04+git20160921.2109/libdiscover/backends/PackageKitBackend/AppPackageKitResource.cpp:56:34: error: ‘const class Appstream::Component’ has no member named ‘iconUrls’#21:22
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> clivejo: pingety ping ping ping ring ring ring21:25
* clivejo hides21:26
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> See Telegram21:26
* acheronuk hides as well21:26
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I forwarded everything @acheronuk21:27
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Lol21:27
acheronukso like? https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-nm21:28
valorieI was wrong, zsync is taking forever for the 32bit21:28
clivejodo you remember me sending you a message last night?21:28
clivejo"Please please please be careful"21:29
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Me clivejo?21:29
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Ah yes21:29
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I know21:29
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Don't say "I told you so!"21:29
valoriewe can all get to polishing now21:30
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I finally have time to get to Lubuntu then21:30
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> /me hugs wxl21:30
clivejohow did you remove the ubuntu/ prefix on the tag?21:32
clivejo@tsimonq2 21:36
clivejoyou must have modified the script to do that, what worries me is what else you have changed :/21:38
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> That was by hand21:43
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I didn't use a script21:43
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Bash loop21:43
clivejodid we not have a discussion about the script to use in KA?21:45
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> It was supposed to do that?21:46
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Oh21:48
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Well21:48
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> It failed because I didn't have my private key on linode21:49
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> So I assumed...21:49
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I assumed it didn't tag on purpose21:49
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!21:50
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tsimonq2finally at a computer22:07
tsimonq2clivejo: do you think it would be an issue if I reverted the tag, set correctly, and force pushed?22:08
clivejohttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-nm22:10
clivejotsimonq2: I really dont know22:11
tsimonq2ok I'll try22:12
tsimonq2in a bit though22:12
clivejonever seen this happen before as we use the KA tools22:13
tsimonq2The following packages have unmet dependencies: sbuild-build-depends-plasma-nm-dummy : Depends: libkf5kdelibs4support-dev (>= 5.24.0~) but it is not going to be installed22:21
tsimonq2E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.22:21
tsimonq2!info libkf5kdelibs4support-dev22:21
ubottulibkf5kdelibs4support-dev (source: kdelibs4support): development files for kde4support. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.24.0-0ubuntu2 (yakkety), package size 320 kB, installed size 2600 kB22:21
tsimonq2...22:22
acheronuktsimonq2: if you see yofl ask him if it's ok to lave the tags in that format or not22:29
acheronuk*leave22:29
tsimonq2I'd guess not22:29
tsimonq2I;m having my nightly time by myself. I'm browsing Facebook and listening to people rant22:30
tsimonq2when I'm done, I'll revert it and fix it :P22:30
acheronukI would guess it's like that for a reason. Could be a format required by a script etc. Could just be an adopted convention that is not so crucial22:31
valorie ha, when I tried the beginning of the install process, the abort window has no place to say "yes, quit the install"22:32
valoriejust a blank window22:32
valorieperhaps part of our slideshow difficulty22:32
tsimonq2we need to make a decision on that22:32
valoriethe i386 beta is looking good on my travel lappy22:33
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> if anyone knows a lot of QML we could TRY to get put a QML slideshow22:40
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> but not sure if it is possible to push that22:40
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> into the repos22:40
valoriesame thing in 64 bit22:41
valoriefor my two test cases, only very minor issues.22:42
valoriethe one above, when one abandons the install22:42
valoriethe other is being asked twice for a password for wireless22:43
valoriehusband is cooking something that smells delicious so it's making me hungry and thus going to help out.....22:48
mparilloI saw a call for testers? I assume for the release candidate for YY Beta 2? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/367/builds22:51
tsimonq2mparillo: correct22:51
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mparillozsyncing now. Just for my information, the Beta2 RC will NOT have all the updates I was testing in -staging? 23:00
tsimonq2correct23:00
mparillovalorie: Asking the wireless password twice has been present in YY for months and months. Possibly also on XX.23:01
mparilloFor the normal use case (install) it is no big deal since it happens only on initial install (though some confused folks may enter their sudo password). But if you frequently use a live ISO it is a pain.23:03
santa_shadeslayer: I have just talked with adam in -release, we got the correct solution for the discover issue, are you available for uploading?23:12
santa_tsimonq2: so what's the deal with fw 5.26, are we able to upload them to yakkety or not?23:14
tsimonq2santa_: afair waiting on shadeslayer 23:18
santa_ok23:19
santa_I'm going to commit the real discover fix to git as we need him to re-upload this package too23:19
tsimonq2santa_: wait23:20
tsimonq2santa_: could you wait one minute before pushing please?23:20
santa_sure23:20
santa_tell me when you are ok23:20
tsimonq2wait 60 secons23:26
tsimonq2*seconds23:26
tsimonq2then you're good23:26
tsimonq2it's pushing now23:26
tsimonq2santa_: all done, please pull first23:28
marco-parilloLive USB works. Wireless, Firefox, and Konversation. I noted Libre Office bug (Launchpad bug 1625595), but somebody told me it is likely my intel drivers, as this does not occur on my VMware VM.23:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1625595 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Libre Office Icons unreadability on YY with Intel Drivers" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162559523:32
marco-parilloHow likely are we to get another ISO tomorrow? 23:33
valoriea daily, for sure?23:33
santa_tsimonq2: done and uploaded the fix to staging. that being said I would like you to ask how did you built the sources to be uploaded by someone else23:33
valoriedunno if they respin betas23:33
valorieyou could ask in #ubuntu-release marco-parillo23:34
tsimonq2valorie: if you specifically ask in #ubuntu-release infinity will23:34
tsimonq2imho it should be someone on that email23:34
tsimonq2yofl and any other flavor lead has the power to do it as well23:34
valorieif someone has a good case for doing that, I suggest asking Philip then23:35
tsimonq2ok23:35
tsimonq2valorie: or I sort of know this guy, he's a flavor lead, his name, is it...Walter? :P23:35
valorielet's get back to doing things by the book23:36
tsimonq2yofel: ping23:37
marco-parilloSorry valorie, what I meant to ask was another RC. If we are likely to get another Beta 2 release candidate, I might hold off on an actual install until tomorrow.23:37
valorieah23:38
* valorie is confused about our actual status anyway23:38
tsimonq2valorie: what do you want to know? ;)23:39
valorieI've done my backup, about to update my YY here and reboot....... wish me luck23:39
valorietsimonq2: the successful reboot will tell the story!23:39
tsimonq2ok lol valorie 23:39
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valoriesuccess! I've been running YY on this computer since the day it was available23:46
tsimonq2yay!23:46
valoriein the immortal words of Rick: GOOD STUFF!23:46
tsimonq2me too! :DDDDDD23:46
tsimonq2GOOOOOD STUFF!23:47
valorienow to eat the delicious dinner making my stomach growl23:47
tsimonq2valorie: omnomnomnomnom23:54
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