[00:01] * leaves before his head explodes * [00:02] sweet dreams, clive [00:02] no no no no NOO not the nightly...... [00:02] * valorie sings Oh Danny Boy to get Clive to sleep [00:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_grantleetheme build #78: FIXED in 44 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_grantleetheme/78/ [00:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Starting build #144 for job mgmt_pause_integration (previous build: ABORTED) [00:03] the pipes, the pipes are calling.... [00:04] green! [00:05] shadeslayer: still around? [00:05] yep [00:05] my tea is still not finished [00:05] this tar will be rather big [00:05] where should I put it? [00:06] yeah that's cool [00:06] wherever [00:06] or I can give you access to my linode and you can just scp? [00:06] as long as it supports parallel download [00:06] tsimonq2: scp is sequential though :( [00:06] lets try [00:07] it's not 100% done yet [00:07] sure [00:07] shadeslayer: so, while you're hear, who are you? ;) [00:07] *here [00:07] oh [00:07] he's Rohan Garg! [00:07] I used to work on kubuntu till like 2 years ago :) [00:08] as part of my full time job at Blue Systems [00:08] now I work on Debian [00:08] at one point sitter's minion [00:08] ^^ [00:08] ah, you used to do it for love [00:09] during uni, yes :P [00:09] and you still are ! [00:09] 'cause you still love us [00:09] yus <3 [00:09] ( plus the free beer ) [00:09] lol [00:09] can't forget the free beer [00:09] ^^ [00:10] when I can legally buy you beer, I owe you one shadeslayer [00:10] seriously [00:10] thanks man [00:10] come back for the champagne if the release team gives us any of this for our beta [00:10] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [00:10] haha np [00:11] shadeslayer: since you probably don't know me, I'm Simon Quigley. I'm an Assistant Release Manager (or at least that's what I call myself ;) ) for Lubuntu, and I'm a ninja as of like a month [00:11] I'm 14, to clear up the beer thing :P [00:11] ahhhh :D [00:11] I guess Quintasan loses youngest-kubuntu-person-ever tag [00:12] oh? [00:12] how old was he? [00:12] Do I? [00:12] Quintasan: I'm 14 [00:12] Quintasan: how old were you when you joined? [00:12] 15? 16? [00:12] lemme look [00:12] I think it went, Quintasan, me, sitter .... [00:12] hi Quintasan [00:12] idk how old yofel is, I think just about my age [00:12] nice to see ya [00:13] though then again, I actually don't know how old sitter is [00:13] >Member since: [00:13] 2006-10-07 [00:13] hmm [00:13] yofel = 28ish? [00:13] That's actually my launchpad account [00:13] Quintasan: what's your DOB? [00:13] 1993 [00:14] 13...? [00:14] So 10 years ago I was like [00:14] 13 [00:14] lol [00:14] a baby! [00:14] nooooooooooooooooooooo you keep the title :P [00:14] Member since: 2007-08-06 [00:14] I joined when I was 17 [00:14] so mature you were [00:14] lol [00:14] I feel old [00:15] where's my walking stick [00:15] don't you even start [00:15] Remember smartboyhw. Another young guy. He came out of nowhere, packaged up a storm, and then I lost track. [00:15] you're old enough to buy me beer ;) ;) ;) ;))))))))))))) [00:15] * tsimonq2 is joking [00:15] his parents made him quit [00:15] tsimonq2: depends on where :P [00:15] valorie: oh? :C [00:15] valorie: huh?!? [00:15] Ahh, so very asian. [00:15] sounds terribly like what my parents did [00:15] they said he needed to focus on his studies [00:15] kept taking away my router [00:15] tsimonq2: Technically we'd have to check when I joined Kubuntu Members but my membership could have expired or something. [00:16] and get into a good uni [00:16] In the US, we call them tiger moms. [00:16] shadeslayer: lol [00:16] sounds like your parents knew their way around technology [00:16] so my parents *tried* that, they've pretty much accepted the fact that this is what I'm doing when I grow up, more experience :P [00:16] Quintasan: Michał Zając 2009-04-15 [00:16] so I get to do whatever I want as long as I get good grades [00:16] Well, one more year and I'll be getting my masters in quantum crypto and I can go back to some serious development. [00:17] oooo [00:17] :D [00:17] sounds serious [00:17] valorie: yeah, not exactly [00:17] shadeslayer: I'm not sure whether my membership didn't expire at some point. [00:17] didn't really stop me [00:17] Quintasan: expires next year [00:17] Quintasan: you are still a Kubuntu Developer [00:17] such slow, very wow [00:17] Quintasan: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/+members [00:17] feel free to come to clivejo's meeting and torture him [00:17] tsimonq2: I can try and scp it if you want [00:17] if it's done [00:18] also, tea over :C [00:18] well it's not done yet lol [00:18] oh ok [00:18] valorie: I do realise that. I was talking about my Kubuntu Members membership in the past. [00:18] ah [00:18] tsimonq2: lets pick up tomorrow then, alternately, email me a link [00:18] I'm pretty much sure I had to renew my MOTU membership somewhere near XMass some time ago lol [00:18] shadeslayer: what time? [00:19] tsimonq2: I'm going to be here from 10 AM to 5 PM [00:19] shadeslayer: 5:30 AM Tuesday is 10:30 AM Tuesday, Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) [00:19] that's my TZ [00:19] shadeslayer: UTC? what? [00:19] tsimonq2: CEST [00:19] ah cool [00:20] tsimonq2: I'm pretty much sure you can beat me on the youngest-kubuntu-developer tag. [00:20] tsimonq2: though we don't need to be online at the same time? [00:20] shadeslayer: I'll wake up early for school then [00:20] shadeslayer: I have to get up at 5:30 AM for school X__X [00:20] 3 AM my time is 10 AM your time [00:20] if you just finish up and send email me a link I'll be able to upload it [00:20] ok [00:20] chesus christ [00:20] I think it took me like 2 years to get there. [00:21] simon was working in lubuntu before he started helping us here [00:21] * shadeslayer out [00:21] night everyone :) [00:21] woah [00:21] o/ [00:21] it's two in the morning here [00:21] o/ [00:21] shadeslayer: night [00:21] Quintasan: indeed [00:21] sweet dreams, guys [00:21] lovely to see you here again [00:22] I've been dreaming about failing my masters lately lol [00:22] pffff [00:22] that means you won't fail [00:22] I picked up some books about my thesis and I'm like: "I know SOME of those words" [00:23] And by "some" I mean I can read the table of contents and still manage not to understand what's going on. [00:23] part of the process is to destroy your brain [00:24] and then rebuild it after you're done [00:24] I still have a year. [00:24] so you just have to gibber like an idiot defending your thesis [00:24] Truth be told I'm majoring in artificial intelligence but my thesis is about quantum cryptography [00:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_merger build #671: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_merger/671/ [00:25] Quintasan: can you break Telegram yet? [00:25] valorie: I don't think anyone can actually break Telegram without knowing how it works. It'd be easier to hack their servers I guess. [00:26] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_discover build #34: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 0 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_discover/34/ [00:26] yeah [00:26] That said I'd still use Signal over Telegram any time since they don't rely on security through obscurity. [00:26] I do use signal for private stuff [00:26] telegram is fine for IRC bridge [00:27] certainly more secure than good old IRCd [00:27] To think I'm still occupying yofel's Quassel core [00:28] It's been like 6 years lol [00:28] Thanks yofel. [00:28] heck, if it works..... [00:30] * valorie goes off to get dinner [00:30] o/ [00:30] and I'll be going off to the dream land [00:30] \o [00:30] sweet dreams [00:30] Thanks! [00:30] lovely to see you again [00:32] tsimonq2: so what have you tar'd up for Rohan? [00:35] acheronuk: working on it [00:36] what precisely? [00:36] ok, while it's going I'll explain [00:36] I'm doing apps [00:36] it froze at one point [00:37] we can't upload apps [00:37] we can't upload apps? [00:37] we can't upload apps [00:37] that's right [00:37] we need the FFe approved... [00:37] yes [00:38] so what are you giving Rohan? [00:38] Plasma 5.7.5 then [00:38] I have to tweak the script [00:39] want to watch me work? come into my linode [00:42] acheronuk: I would have done Frameworks but sgclark said she would do it [00:44] epochs [00:44] :/ [00:44] I need to tweak the script *again* [00:54] tsimonq2: why are you altering the changelogs? [01:01] acheronuk: didn't detect epochs before afair [01:01] that would have been a disaster [01:02] acheronuk: oh and btw, I type with two fingers [01:02] LOL [01:02] and I'm STILL faster than you :P [01:03] I need to learn to touchtype, but have failed miserably whenever I tried [01:03] me too [01:04] doesn't help that it's 2 am here and my finders are more asleep than I am [01:04] *fingers [01:04] see [01:05] I took a video of me typing [01:05] it's uploading on Telegram now [01:05] it'll be in the channel soon [01:05] can see it coming [01:07] acheronuk: look at linode [01:07] should that be done? [01:07] maybe not? [01:08] wait a sec [01:09] don't fall asleep now acheronuk :P [01:10] where did it pull that git from? [01:10] I know santa was making a change [01:10] kubuntu_yakkety_archive [01:12] santa made changes and uploaded to the ppa, but didn't push to git it seems [01:13] nice :/ [01:13] santa_: Are you lurking? [01:13] acheronuk: skipping for now [01:14] acheronuk: so then who signs these packages before they're pushed into the archive? [01:14] shadeslayer [01:14] ...really? [01:14] ok [01:15] yes as if not signed by him them would get rejected [01:15] ah yes that's right I remember now ok cool k nice *thumbs up* any other random positive thoughts yayayayayay [01:15] *they would [01:15] * tsimonq2 nods [01:16] can't remember how you override the signing, but you cam [01:16] @tsimonq2, @acheronuk [01:16] I trusly believed I typed slow before actually seeing myself type on this [01:17] *truly [01:18] not bad with 2 fingers. lol [01:20] And I'm usually faster [01:20] I was just holding my phone with my chin :P [01:29] sgclark: ping, if you could upload Frameworks, that would be awesome [01:32] acheronuk: still about? [01:32] yes.just [01:33] it's ready :) [01:35] sgclark: as per santa's email here, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2016-September/010734.html Frameworks 5.26 the branch kubuntu_yakkety_backports [01:35] which now seems odd [01:36] tsimonq2: good :) [01:36] http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimonq2/plasma-5.7.5.tar.gz [01:36] ready to grab and upload [01:36] acheronuk: I have perks as an Ubuntu member >;) [01:38] shadeslayer: http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimonq2/plasma-5.7.5.tar.gz - here you go [01:38] acheronuk: sweet dreams [01:58] so for frameworks, if it goes for upload then as the git was done in kubuntu_yakkety_backports (copy of archive) to preserve the archive branch, then that should cleanly merge back into archive? [01:58] most likely yes [01:59] just tested that locally on plasma-framework and it did cleanly making both identical [02:01] clive pointed out today that normal workflow would have been to tag instead, so keeping it all in _archive, and being able to revert to the tagged version if the FW 5.26 merge and builds did not work out [02:02] I think we need to document this [02:02] ^ +1000000 [02:03] it's very confusing for me [02:03] imo if you are going to tar up everything else, you should do FW too, and then shoot an email to sgclark and see if she already uploaded or not [02:04] that way if she has not, rohan can do it [02:04] tomorrow morning I promise :P [02:05] \o/ [02:06] tsimonq2: you pushed the tags, or going to wait until actually uploaded for sure? [02:06] acheronuk: the second part [02:06] ok [02:07] that seems wise [02:09] yeah, I only pushed one thing [02:09] when we rewrite that part of KCI, it should automatically merge whatever is in the archive to kubuntu_yakkety_archive [02:09] saves us a LOT of issues [02:14] I'm off to bed [02:14] thanks a lot for your help today everyone [02:14] hopefully we can make more progress tomorrow [02:15] o/ [02:15] niters simon [02:15] thanks for YOUR help today [02:15] sweet dreams [02:16] We all owe each other beers in a couple years I think ;) [02:16] o/ [03:27] when you see that the KDE Phabricator default new account icons are pokemon... [03:57] ahoneybun: lol [03:58] did you see it [03:58] ? [03:58] I've not yet seen it [03:58] link [03:58] ? [04:00] working on it [04:00] need to take a screenshot [04:00] omg 12am [04:01] nah, only 9! [04:01] not here [04:01] I know [04:01] you're on the wrong side of the continent! [04:02] http://imgur.com/a/dpHX1 [04:04] oh wow [04:04] XD yep [04:04] I wonder how old the programmers of that thing are [04:04] lol [04:04] well with Pokemon GO now lol [04:04] who knows [04:05] * ahoneybun enters sleep mode [04:05] sweet dreams ahoneybun [04:36] ugh, just woke up in the middle of the night [04:36] sorry about not pushing plasma-discover [04:36] tsimonq2: I see you pushed what's in the ppa, maybe we should strip the ~ubuntyX~ppaX suffix? [04:37] it is the middle of the night for him [04:45] /o\ [04:46] someone already uploaded -discover [04:46] :( [04:46] without the fix [04:47] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover [04:47] and for some reason this isn't reported in the status page [04:47] tsimonq2: around? [04:47] weird [04:47] he's asleep [04:48] he promised to be up early though to send the links to Rohan (shadeslayer) [04:48] santa_: what is the right thing to do about discover? [04:48] fixed is better IMO [04:49] what's his timezone? [04:49] mmm, maybe Central US [04:49] in utc offset being? [04:50] EDT - http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_US-MI.aspx [05:03] ah nevermind [05:04] the uploaded version is 5.7.2 [05:04] it wasn't done by us but it's 5.7.2 [05:04] valorie: ok, so I'll talk to simon to strip the ~ubuntuXppaX suffix and that's it [05:05] even if it's accidentally uploaded with that version it can be corrrected uploading the right version, so no prob [05:05] cool [05:05] tsimonq2: ping when you are awake please [05:06] * ping me [05:06] are you upstreaming your patch, santa_? [05:06] it's a packaging patch, so nothing to upstream [05:06] ah ok [05:06] I just added a couple of transitional packages to not get plasma-discover on hold or removed by pkg managers [05:07] I see [06:22] santa_: I think Simon included your fix by applying the diff the upload script spat out? [06:43] https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/discover/commit/?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=80adc7ebffb9cca023e4feb226fc831c2343fa32 [06:48] clivejo shadeslayer valorie et al : Response to Apps FFe from release team https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/1625756/comments/2 [06:48] Launchpad bug 1625756 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "[FFe] KDE Applications into the Yakkety archive (including KDEpim)" [Undecided,New] [06:49] yofel: please reply to that as soon as you can [06:49] * valorie has to sleep soon [06:50] we've been testing FW for so long..... [07:20] ok, heading to bed, hoping for good news in the morning [08:15] Hi ho [08:16] acheronuk: yes but the ppa suffix must be removed [08:16] santa_: it was [08:19] acheronuk: it's not, see the diff you linked ;) [08:20] santa_: from the tar'd sources Simon did http://paste.ubuntu.com/23210532/ [08:20] oh, ok [08:21] I will remove it from git then [08:21] santa_: Simon has yet to git tag and mark as released. waiting to make sure we get the upload first [08:21] ok, better [08:21] I didn't want because I suspected simons tar built sources would have it [08:22] we also must merge everything in _archive [08:22] yes, we must [08:22] we will do that after the uploads [08:23] and to xenial_backports [08:24] as backports should really be done from there [08:24] yes, maybe [08:24] yes, definitely. eventually [08:25] not super critical now [08:25] I have to go for 1-2 hrs. hope some stuff can go up :) [08:36] tsimonq2: I'm uploading plasma 5.7.5 [08:38] tsimonq2: upload done [08:41] @shadeslayer, Thank you :) [08:41] yw [08:47] hi there, any idea when kmail 5.2 will be part of kubuntu? i've got 16.04 with backports ppa [08:54] @TomTom, backports newer than what we have in our develeopment version don't go in that ppa as policy. they are being done/staged/tested and hopefuly won't be too long, but can't give an exact ETA right now [08:55] @TomTom, at the moment we are trying to get things like that in the dev version (Yakkety) [09:01] thanks for the information [10:21] why is KCI paused? [10:25] acheronuk: KCI pause started by you? [10:26] at 00:03 this morning [10:33] clivejo: nope [10:34] Simon I guess [10:34] http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_pause_integration/144/ [10:35] Started by user Simon Quigley [10:45] Hey hey hey [10:45] santa_: I pushed only one or two things to Git... [10:45] Waiting until it all migrated from proposed [10:45] And for the record, I'm central time US and I wake up at around 5:30 [10:46] Yeah that was me acheronuk [10:46] getting notified of a few failures on deps [10:47] on armhf mostly for some reason [10:48]