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pekkariHi, any easy way to get the kernel config file used for linux-image packages of different series?07:38
apwpekkari, they are installed with the kernels in /boot, and are collected here07:39
pekkariapw: fine thanks!07:46
apwppisati, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/config/07:47
apwsorry got distracted getting the url07:47
apwpekkari, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/config/07:48
apweven07:48
apwxnox, hey ... there is a kernel rebuild in ppa:canonical-kernel-team/ubuntu/unstable which looks to have the right bits in s390x .udebs are you able to confirm07:58
xnoxapw, that looks good. However, I am wonder if performance will be degraded on x86_64 because:08:23
xnoxx86 optimised .ko modules do not appear to be in the udeb.08:23
xnox./lib/modules/4.8.0-13-generic/kernel/arch/x86/crypto/crc32-pclmul.ko08:23
xnox./lib/modules/4.8.0-13-generic/kernel/arch/x86/crypto/crc32c-intel.ko08:23
xnoxhopefully things fallback to generic crc32[c] modules instead.08:24
xnoxlooks good. obviously i'll need d-i to verify, but hopefully things are fine.08:24
alkisgIs it possible to install a 4.x kernel in ubuntu 12.04? I tried e.g. with the xenial kernel, but the "kmod" dependency isn't satisfied...08:48
apwxnox, yep, that we can fix08:48
apw(after beta) 08:48
apwalkisg, the newest kernel we offer there is lts-trusty 3.1308:49
alkisgapw, thanks, a user reports that he has sound in 16.04 but not in 12.04, even with the -trusty kernel there08:50
alkisg(12.04 is his normal installation, 16.04 a live cd)08:50
alkisgSo I was trying to see if an even newer kernel in 12.04 would solve the issue08:50
apwi would guess that the modutils/kmod change is more about the transitional package for the old name going away08:52
apwso you might find forcing that on works just fine08:52
alkisgThanks, trying even with broken dependencies...08:53
alkisgNah the user said that the 4.x kernel didn't even boot10:00
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smoserhey...  i just marked https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1626158 as kernel related.16:48
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1626158 in linux (Ubuntu) "image won't boot after upgrading to yakkety's 4.8 kernel because efi" [Critical,Confirmed]16:48
chalbersmaIs this Ask Ubuntu Accurate (http://askubuntu.com/questions/804111/is-no-reboot-kernel-patching-enabled-in-16-04)? Is there now live kernel patching in Ubuntu 16.04? I asked on #ubuntu and they said they didn't think so but I should check with you guys.19:59
dsmythiesEver since mainline kernel 4.7-rc5, I have been observing sometimes extreme load averages and over 2000 kworker processes (8 CPUs and up to 258 threads per cpu, maybe more).20:38
dsmythiesParticularly immediately after boot.20:38
dsmythiesEventually (5 minutes +- a few seconds) the kworker threads go away, but might return depending on what root activity is going on (it doesn't happen for user activities).20:38
dsmythiesThe issue is somehow related to the massive kernel configuration changes between 4.7-rc4 and 4.7-rc5, and if I compile say 4.8-rc7 using the old kernel configuration, the issue does not occur.20:38
dsmythiesIf I do "scripts/diffconfig .config-4.7.0-040700rc4-generic .config-4.7.0-040700rc5-generic" there are 2249 lines of changes.20:38
dsmythiesI have compiled several kernels with my best guess at some configuration reversions, but so far have not been able to isolate the exact change that introduced the issue.20:38
dsmythiesThis work has all been on my main test computer, which is 16.04 server based. However today the same thing was observed on a 16.10 based Laptop test computer, after it upgraded to 4.8.0-11-generic.20:39
dsmythiesIt has two CPUs and I observe up to 516 koworker threads, when the issue occurs (used to be about 11 max).20:39
dsmythiesDoes anyone know which kernel configuration change is responsible? And if this is behaviour is actually O.K.?20:39
dsmythiesTo be clear the kworker processes are mostly idle, and the load average seems to be high only because the queue happened to be huge on a sample boundary. This is NOT a hogging the CPU issue.20:39
rtgdsmythies, try reducing CONFIG_NR_CPUS=8192 to 256 or something low like that.20:45
dsmythiesrtg: O.K. that was a change between 4.7-rc4 and 4.7-rc5: "NR_CPUS 8192 -> 512", and it is one that I have not yet tried reverting.20:49
rtgdsmythies, it just seems like that is a lot of worker threads. What file system do you use ?20:50
dsmythiesrtg: my main disk is ext4, on both computers.20:58
rtghuh, I've not observed that many threads, though I haven't looked recently20:59
rtgone of my 4-way servers does have 589 kworker threads21:00
rtgdsmythies, if that does turn out to have an impact, please start a bug and assign me to it (timg-tpi). I'm EOD for now21:01
dsmythiesrtg: on my server, it occurs every half hour, when CRON runs the php clean up. i.e. /usr/lib/php/sessionclean. I also have now created a way to do it simply myself.21:02
dsmythiesrtg: O.K.21:02
dsmythiesdoes anyone know what rtg meant by "(timg-tpi)"? (3 lines above).21:31
dsmythiesreverting CONFIG_NR_CPUS made no difference.21:32
apwdsmythies, that is his launchpad id21:33
dsmythiesapw, aghh thanks.21:43

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