[00:13] Is it safe to select an EFI file in the GRUB menu? For some reason my GRUB menu is listing 2 EFI files [00:14] The standard 'Ubuntu' option isnt working so I'mthinking about trying one but not sure if it's safe [01:12] everything works now [01:12] phew...lesson learned: even though they look intimidating, READ error messages and decipher them === MrBIOS_ is now known as MrBIOS [03:55] howdy [03:56] hi @ouroumov [03:57] anyone here had any experience with docker or anything similar? looking at using something that doesnt charge more based on my using more hardware that I buy [08:53] I accidently set the wrong compositor in ubuntu mate, how do I reset it back to default? [08:54] Go to MATE Tweak -> Windows [08:54] In WM options select Marco (Software Compositor) [08:54] That is the default [08:54] ouroumov: heh. wish I could. the whole window is black right now. [08:55] Hm [08:55] every time I try to use the "macro hardware acceleration" it just goes black. [08:55] it works if I use compiz [08:55] or software [08:55] i'm using vmware. [08:55] You mean Marco + Compton GPU ? [08:55] sure.. yeah that one. [08:55] i'm using 16.04 LTS [08:55] Okay, lemme see if I can find the command line [08:58] Actually, never mind that, can you switch the VM to tty1 ? [08:58] I tried doing: gsettings reset org.mate.session.required-components windowmanager [08:58] that didn't work. [08:58] says it needs "x11" to run [08:59] So you've got a terminal, ok [08:59] Just run "killall compton" [08:59] Then use MATE Tweak to switch back to default [08:59] rkraig@rkraig-vmware-16 ~ $ gsettings reset org.mate.session.required-components windowmanager [08:59] (process:83706): dconf-WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf: Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY [08:59] rkraig@rkraig-vmware-16 ~ $ sudo su [08:59] rgr.. [08:59] [sudo] password for rkraig: [08:59] ➜ rkraig /etc/init.d/lightdm restart [08:59] [ ok ] Restarting lightdm (via systemctl): lightdm.service. [09:00] ouroumov: that did the trick. ty. [09:00] yw [09:00] I switched back to compiz [09:00] question.. [09:00] you ever use 4k resolution? [09:00] I'm just trying to figure out a theory I have. [09:01] robk, I don't think GPU accell is useful at all in a VM, I could be wrong [09:01] robk, sorry no [09:01] I've never gone past 1080p [09:01] I have a geforce 770 gtx 2gb ddr5, my presumption is that because I don't have enough video ram, screen rendering seems slow. [09:02] I use vm because I need to test everything in windows as 1st priority. I run a LGA 2011 xeon 2690 w/ 64gb ddr ecc [09:02] Yeah 2BG is not a lot [09:03] I think midrange GPUs pack at least 4GB now [09:03] nvidia says i have 3.5gb of total video memmory, so I think I probably need to upgrade my video card. I'm currently running a Dell 4k P2715Q monitor [09:07] I'm eye-balling this right now, https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-08G-P4-6171-KR/dp/B01H74VTBK [09:07] ouroumov_: your irc die on you? [09:08] shows you reconnected twice. [09:08] well, I mean shows you are ouroumov_ & ouroumov [09:08] :) [09:08] no, forgot to shut down IRC client on the laptop in my bad, suppose it caught the wifi and went ahead [09:08] :) [09:08] I'll repaste.. [09:08] in my bag * [09:08] I'm eye-balling this, https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-08G-P4-6171-KR/dp/B01H74VTBK [09:08] Yeah I saw [09:09] seems it's very 4k ready, only 1 dvi port, and 2 hdmi & 2 display ports. [09:10] Yeah [11:16] holaaaa [11:16] hi janyra [11:17] hi how whwere you from [11:18] janyra, I'm from France [11:18] ok I'm from spain [11:19] Yes, I can see from your host name :) [11:19] You're a new Ubuntu MATE user janyra? [11:21] yes i'm a ubunt 16 LTS USER I'VE UBUNTU MATE ON VIRTUALBOX [11:23] janyra, ok [11:23] janyra, no problem so far? [11:23] can't fix the brightness of my laptop [11:24] it was working fine since I install but suddenly stopworking [11:24] reta, hi [11:25] NO PROBLEM [11:25] reta, what version of Ubuntu MATE are you using? [11:25] 16.o4 [11:25] janyra, please switch back your caps lock [11:27] reta, probably due to a kernel update. You should make sure of that by booting using an older kernel and checking if the issue is gone [13:55] flexiondotorg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1622257 fix has been unleashed [13:55] Launchpad bug 1622257 in ubuntu-mate "unattended-upgrades is missing from the ubuntu-mate-desktop meta package" [High,Triaged] [13:56] flexiondotorg, I still recommend an announcement about the default option switch === ubuntu is now known as Guest99860 [15:36] flexiondotorg, glad to see you back. I was worried you got whacked by Microsoft goon squad. u_u [15:58] ouroumov, Thanks for the update. I'm catching up. [16:25] how to tell if bad sectors on hdd are fixable or not? [16:25] Bad sectors are on most drives, they're not usually a problem, but a natural side effect of aging. [16:26] Drive firmware will blacklist them when it becomes aware of it. [16:34] what if the errors keep recurring after being accounted for by fsck [16:38] I don't know, change drive? io, I recommend you wait for someone who is able to read SMART reports correctly on the forum thread. Personally I have no clue what it means. === ussama is now known as phochiom [18:08] Buenas [18:55] anybody get the zeus virus message in firefox on mate 16.04? I just did [19:09] rizzo_, haha [19:10] rizzo_, install an adblocker, I recommend uBlock Origin [19:17] i had adblock running [19:18] adblock plus [19:19] Mint-Y looks awesome for me but no matter how hard I try, it still sucks for some reason. [19:19] rizzo_, well some stuff got through, apparently. Zeus is a windows botnet. [19:20] hi tiox [19:20] ouroumov_ I've heard about Zeus, it's a hell of a thing, that is. [20:20] Help, I have added the program redshift to auto startup, but the program doesnt function (not tinting the screen). Works fine if I start it manually. Adding it with its path doesnt help [20:33] bonsoir [20:39] !fr | herve [20:39] herve: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [20:40] Langley, maybe you should post about it on the forums? [20:41] Maybe... I see someone else with the same problem and it can be fixed by manually specifying my coordinates [20:42] 4 year old bug :/ https://bugs.launchpad.net/redshift/+bug/868904 [20:42] Launchpad bug 868904 in Redshift "Redshift fails to start with session if no external location provider is available" [High,Confirmed] [21:29] Is there a command I can run to see exactlly waht type of RAM i have/ [21:31] -wndi- -Blackisle- -ubuntulo13- -skeletonkey- -ztane- -vok`- -Brycks- -netvixtra- -DalekSec- -TrentP- -atlanticd- -SWAT- -gimpysticks- , beware / -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, we would urge all irssi users to head over to https://irssi.org/2016/09/21/irssi-0.8.20-released/ and also upgrade to the latest version. I would also like to say thank you to the current irssi dev team for the early warning! [21:32] ouroumov_: It's called a 'global' because it goes to everyone, no need to re-paste it (and pinging everyone in the meantime.) [21:32] DalekSec, sorry, I wasn't sure the visibility [21:32] It didn't highlight my client. [21:34] ( Apologizing to the others too ) [21:42] Does anyone else get the impression that Dedoimedo is a drama llama? [21:46] Help I'm having problems with galculator again... inputting (-300000/188000000)/0.01 should be -0.16 but galculator just says -inf [21:47] Works fine for me [21:48] That calculation?? What am I doing wrong [21:48] No idea [21:48] Are you typing it all in Formula Entry? [21:48] yes [21:49] I get -0.159574468085 [21:49] http://imgur.com/a/NGQn4 [21:50] Like that? [21:50] tiox, you think he lost his awful machine? Because he hasn't been mentioning it in the Fedora24 article, it's not a review at all. [21:50] Langley, I can't reproduce [21:50] gcalculator gives me the correct result [21:50] Oh wait, maybe I should type it all in one go?) [21:51] Yes, the whole line [21:51] still works fine for me [21:53] I can't get the thing to input parenthesis? [21:54] Hey all, total newbie here! [21:54] Oh alright, formula entry, got it [21:54] I confirm Langley: -inf [21:54] Hi naples [21:54] Hi Naples. [21:54] hello! [21:55] Langley, have you reported the bug yet? [21:55] No... [21:55] Langley, do you plan on doing so? [21:55] Last time I had a similar problem it magically solved it just after reporting the bug [21:55] question, im totally new to linux, wanted to know what apps to get for serving media? [21:55] locally [21:56] Serving? You mean playing? [21:56] For videos: SMPlayer, for Music, I use Banshee [21:56] yeah, so i have home video, images etc [21:56] i want to be able to pulll it up on xbox one media player or kindle [21:57] so ideally local host serving, but as i mentioned new to linux so not sure where to start [21:58] What's running Linux for you? [21:58] naples: Plenty of ways to do that. You could set up VLC as a media server and access content on another machine that way. [21:59] Know this about me; General knowledge I have, specific knowledge I lack. So just because I know something can be done does not mean I can tell you every bit of it. [21:59] That's what Google is for. :P [22:00] linux-masochist a beat up dell [22:00] For images, EOM is good enough, it's preinstalled [22:00] VLC is also preinstalled as well as a music player [22:00] Langley, since I was able to independently reproduce, you should file a bug report. [22:00] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/galculator [22:01] linux-masochist a beat up dell; thanks for that, will take a look at VLC on the google [22:01] Ideally if you want access to everything, you could set up a samba server and access your content over the network, if I am saying that correctly... [22:01] So you can then use other tools to play content from your local network via another machine to provide that content. [22:02] Damn my connection is lagging fsr [22:02] ideal [22:02] thats what im looking for [22:02] ouroumov_, but now I found the problem... using , vs . [22:03] It should accept boooootthhh [22:03] naples: That's the beauty of Linux. You can repurpose old hardware. [22:03] Then naples this is probably what you seek, or at least, one means to your end; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20Create%20a%20Network%20Share%20Via%20Samba%20Via%20CLI%20(Command-line%20interface/Linux%20Terminal)%20-%20Uncomplicated,%20Simple%20and%20Brief%20Way! [22:03] This is madness, on my homework I have to use . but galculator only accepts , [22:03] Langley, I used . [22:03] (Jesus Ubuntu that is stupid.) [22:04] (Stupidly-long address, lol [22:04] ) [22:04] Oh, got it [22:04] Langley: Sounds like a locale issue? [22:04] this is all awesome help folks. looks like my machine has now gotten a new lease of life [22:05] tiox, you can use "." in US locale? [22:05] For decimal, yes. [22:05] naples, our forums are helpful too [22:05] 16.04, rather than 16,04 [22:05] tiox, I mean, does it work in galculator? [22:05] Should. [22:06] will check them out, might rejoin this chatr another time. sorry fgor butting in & thanks again [22:06] Provide me an example and I will attempt to emulate it in galculator. [22:06] Oh, don;t be sorry. [22:06] (-3000000/18800000)/0.01 [22:07] 15.9574468085 [22:07] (-3000000/18800000)/0,01 [22:08] Galculator refuses to use commas. [22:08] 15.9574468085 [22:08] Then why can't it do (-3000000/18800000)/0.01 for me [22:09] Type 'locale' in terminal and tell me what it spits out for country. [22:09] (Mine is en_US) [22:10] tiox, you used CTRL+F to switch galculator to formula mode? [22:10] I did not, thank you. [22:11] LANG=en_US.UTF-8 [22:11] LANGUAGE=en_US:en [22:11] LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" [22:11] LC_NUMERIC=en_DK.UTF-8 [22:11] LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8 [22:11] LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8" [22:11] LC_MONETARY=en_DK.UTF-8 [22:11] Langley, tiox, I think if we use "." galculator assumes we mean "*" [22:11] LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8" [22:11] LC_PAPER=en_DK.UTF-8 [22:11] LC_NAME=en_DK.UTF-8 [22:11] LC_ADDRESS=en_DK.UTF-8 [22:11] LC_TELEPHONE=en_DK.UTF-8 [22:11] LC_MEASUREMENT=en_DK.UTF-8 [22:11] LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_DK.UTF-8 [22:11] LC_ALL= [22:11] just some quick (I think) questions: I've been using i3 in arch with a couple of xfce daemons slapped on. But I've realized xfce development is pretty slow and mate looks to be a great replacement. This time I'm thinking I'd install mate first and then swap the WM. Sounds sane? Is this a recommended way? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt2nxyEIf74 (prev. asked this in #mate but no response) [22:11] Please do not spam the chat; Country code should largelly be the same for every instance locale spits out. [22:12] ALso, Galculator will not allow me to see a result for Langley's inquiry. [22:12] But it's different all over [22:12] So either he is doing it wrong or Galculator is _stupidly broken_ [22:13] Oh nvm I was doing it wrong. [22:13] I added a closing parenthesis where there was no opening. [22:13] The answer when using decimal is as expected, when using a comma I get -inf [22:13] Negative infinity. What the crap. [22:14] Powersource, you're welcome to ask on the forums, a quick search show very little: https://ubuntu-mate.community/search?q=i3%20wm (but maybe some users will have tried) [22:15] Langley: This was your query correct? (-3000000/18800000)/0,01 [22:15] Yes, something like that [22:15] Powersource, apparently that "IvCho" guy tried it and it worked [22:15] It should accept both . and , it's not like anybody is gonna input a million as 1.000.000 into their calculator [22:17] (-3000000/18800000)/0,01 = -∞ [22:17] Just, why? I see what you are saying now. [22:18] But I believe you are making a mountain out of a molehill; just use the syntax Galculator expects if numerical grammar does not matter. [22:18] It's just user unfriendly, since it's the opposite of what my homework tests want. If I use the wrong one there, it just fails me [22:19] So? Bear that in mind when typing your response and answer appropriately. [22:19] But I think I'll just use my TI-30X, only one button for . there... [22:19] I'll mess up eventually [22:20] Guys, 4/0.5 = inf [22:22] ouroumov: that guy sounds like he did it similarly to the video, thanks [22:22] yw [22:23] I think anything with a comma is construed as ∞ [22:23] So like, -1 * 0,1 is -∞ [22:27] Most importantly I found the source of the problem [22:33] Thanks for the help, bye [22:36] :\ [23:02] any cpu-z alternatives for ubunut [23:03] or some program that analyzes hardware [23:03] you mean list? [23:03] sudo lshw [23:03] or: inxi -ACDSMNGI [23:06] thanks [23:08] like the inxi [23:12] is it ever the case that you get better performance from 2gb less RAM if that 2gb is lower speed than the rest (in situations with nomore than 12gb) [23:44] Hi, i'm new. How I can dual boot windows7 and ubuntu mate? [23:45] The PC starts automaticly ubuntu mate [23:46] bye