[01:56] <RLShiftyDoggit> anyone here?
[02:47] <duflu> RLShiftyDoggit: Yes. But this is not a busy timezone
[02:47] <duflu> Relatively. Compared to Europe
[02:50] <RLShiftyDoggit> ok you still here
[02:50] <RLShiftyDoggit> ive been trying to port ubuntu touch
[02:50] <RLShiftyDoggit> and i ran into a problem
[04:04] <uday> how may I use twrp to install ubuntu touch
[04:05] <uday> I have android file transfer running
[04:05] <uday> anyone :)?
[04:33] <RLShiftyDoggit> twrp works
[04:33] <RLShiftyDoggit> its just flashing a rom
[04:56] <vicamo> pitti: ping
[04:57] <RLShiftyDoggit> i dont think anyone is here
[04:57] <RLShiftyDoggit> lol
[05:02] <vicamo> RLShiftyDoggit: QQ
[05:03] <RLShiftyDoggit> haha
[05:24] <RLShiftyDoggit> hey anyone able to help me out?
[05:24] <RLShiftyDoggit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23210148/
[05:56] <pitti> vicamo: no contentless pings please, just ask :)
[05:57] <RLShiftyDoggit> hey guys is the repo down
[05:57] <RLShiftyDoggit> i cant get it to sync
[05:57] <vicamo> pitti: I found whenever android init tries to chmod/chown /dev/*, then it's killed with SIGKILL
[05:58] <RLShiftyDoggit> vicamo
[05:58] <RLShiftyDoggit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23210148/
[05:58] <pitti> vicamo: supposedly a seccomp violation?
[05:58] <RLShiftyDoggit> can you help me?
[05:59] <pitti> vicamo: or maybe apparmor (there should be something in dmesg)
[05:59] <NotKit> RLShiftyDoggit, error: Cannot remove project "android": uncommitted changes are present
[05:59] <NotKit> it's not because of repo
[05:59] <RLShiftyDoggit> i dont know what that is or how to fix it
[05:59] <vicamo> pitti: no further message after the init debug line
[06:00] <RLShiftyDoggit> i hard reset git then it just says cant sync
[06:00] <vicamo> it's filed as https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1625916
[06:00] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1625916 in Canonical System Image "android init exits at executing /system/etc/partition_permission.sh" [Undecided,New]
[06:02] <pitti> vicamo: I'd strace the thing as a next step; I don't know how that android container looks at all, I'm afraid
[06:05] <RLShiftyDoggit> so what do i do guys
[06:05] <RLShiftyDoggit> i wanna port this to my phone
[06:11] <vicamo> pitti: thank you
[06:12] <vicamo> RLShiftyDoggit: just go to the folder, git add . && git commit
[06:12] <pitti> vicamo: I haven't had a working touch platform for a while (both dual boot and the emulator got broken)
[06:15] <vicamo> pitti: yep, it's a pitty ubuntu doesn't maintain the emulator as hard as a generic platform
[06:15] <pitti> vicamo: it goes both ways -- most often it wasn't the emulator itself that broke but ubuntu touch
[06:16] <pitti> I've seen a lot of cases where we simply broke alternative dependendies to -gles and the like
[06:17] <RLShiftyDoggit> i just got rid of all my repo and git crap and im starting over
[06:17] <RLShiftyDoggit> hopefully it goes
[06:18] <vicamo> RLShiftyDoggit: just want to warn you that porting a device is like 1000,000 times more difficult than repo sync :)
[06:18] <RLShiftyDoggit> i know
[06:19] <RLShiftyDoggit> i just recently ported RR to a few devices
[06:19] <RLShiftyDoggit> its hard but i enjoy a challenge
[06:19] <RLShiftyDoggit> :)
[06:29] <jibel> vicamo, pitti and it broke again with ota13, it boots to busybox :/
[06:29] <vicamo> jibel: you mean the emulator?
[06:29] <jibel> vicamo, yes
[06:29] <pitti> yeah, this should have been (or should still become once it gets fixed again) a first-level platform in CI, otherwise it's going to keep breaking
[06:30] <vicamo> things not in the CI are not supported :P
[06:31] <jibel> pitti, even when we report bugs or non-booting emulator, it takes several weeks or months to fix it
[06:31] <pitti> jibel: having it in CI would guard against these "stupid" breakages such as forgetting -gles dependencies
[06:31] <pitti> if the emulator itself breaks that doesn't help of course
[06:34] <jibel> I cannot disagree :)
[10:27] <sil2100> popey: hey! Sorry to bother again, could you op me for a quick topic change? ;)
[10:28] <autra> hey! Where should I report documentation bug for https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/porting-new-device/ ?
[10:36] <popey> sil2100: lets fix it so you can op yourself....
[10:36] <popey> sil2100: seems you have ops. just /msg chanserv op #ubuntu-touch
[10:36] <sil2100> popey: thank you!
[10:36] <popey> np
[10:37] <sil2100> ls
[10:37] <sil2100> As always, wrong terminal
[10:37] <popey> :)
[10:37] <popey> .
[10:37] <popey> ..
[10:37] <popey> ./goats
[10:38] <sil2100> Oooh! `clear`, quick!
[10:39] <autra> nevermind, I found it :-)
[10:48] <sem-geologist> hello, how to debug programs in the custom libertine? particulary this is for me about qgis
[10:49] <sem-geologist> which crashes if I add a vector point. it starts ok, it opens the files ok, but digitising is impossible...
[10:50] <sem-geologist> I eventestd it with gpsd, which works nicellyand is verypromissing
[10:51] <sem-geologist> oh sorry, prbably this is wrong channel, i should go to ubuntu-libertine....
[11:04] <faenil> ahayzen: Mirv https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmultimedia-opensource-src/+bug/1510225/comments/7
[11:04] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1510225 in qtubuntu-media (Ubuntu RTM) "load() of a QDeclarativePlaylist does not fully work" [Medium,In progress]
[11:04] <faenil> ahayzen: Mirv is your go-to for Qt patches :)
[11:04] <ahayzen> faenil, hehe :-) thanks i was going to ping him after lunch :-)
[11:04] <faenil> ahayzen: ah ok, cool :)
[11:05] <Mirv> faenil: ahayzen: for qtmultimedia though it's usually jhodapp's turf, especially when it's directly related to his (and loicm's) work on the playlists
[11:06] <faenil> ok
[11:07] <ahayzen> Mirv, i spoke with jhodapp he said to speak to you about getting the latest patch in, it has been patched into the Qt5.6 series. So I just need the qtmultimedia package to be updated or that patch cherry picked?
[11:13] <Mirv> ahayzen: ah, sure I can do that actual packaging work, thank you! looking after this call.
[11:15] <ahayzen> Mirv, thanks :-) let me know if you need any extra info
[12:06] <jgdx> tvoss, ping
[12:06] <tvoss> jgdx: pong
[12:07] <jgdx> tvoss, do you think qml-module-biometryd can suggest libbiometryd instead of depend, trivially?
[12:07] <jgdx> or would that mean tons of complicated work?
[12:08] <tvoss> jgdx: I think that's a sil2100 question :) ^
[12:10] <jgdx> okay
[12:10] <jgdx> tvoss, my mind was on the code, not the packaging change itself
[12:11] <jgdx> i.e. would it run still
[12:11] <tvoss> jgdx: yup
[12:11] <jgdx> 90% of the commits are yours :P
[12:31] <tvoss> jgdx: so yeah, it falls back gracefully
[12:59] <jgdx> tvoss, so qml-module-biometryd doesn't work without libbiometryd http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23211291/
[13:00] <jgdx> tvoss, what does “it” refer to ^
[13:00] <tvoss> jgdx: what do you expect to happen instead?
[13:01] <jgdx> tvoss, that Biometryd.available is false
[13:02] <jgdx> but “expect” is a bit strong.
[13:02] <tvoss> jgdx: okay, so you would like the plugin to load despite libbiometryd.so not being present
[13:03] <jgdx> tvoss, hang on
[13:03] <jgdx> seb128, could we do a MIR on qml-module-biometryd if that only suggests the biometryd backend?
[13:07] <seb128> jgdx, you could, just more paperwork/review to get done, I can't say if the MIR team is going to be fine with it
[13:08] <seb128> keep in mind that we want the easiest solution, things should land today or tomorrow
[13:08] <jgdx> kenvandine, was there are MIR for libqofono?
[13:08] <jgdx> *a
[13:09] <kenvandine> yes
[13:09] <jgdx> and you get 0 modems if ofono isn't around
[13:09] <kenvandine> right
[13:10] <kenvandine> so the qml bindings are fine without ofono
[13:10] <kenvandine> seb128, so qml-module-biometryd is built from the same source as biometryd
[13:10] <tvoss> jgdx: what's the issue with biometryd? I thought it would be in main by now
[13:10] <tvoss> seb128: ^
[13:10] <kenvandine> i know we could just promote qml-module-biometryd
[13:10] <seb128> tvoss, nobody did a MIR is the issue I guess
[13:10] <kenvandine> but i'd think they would still want a review of the source
[13:11] <seb128> tvoss, also does it make sense on desktop for 16.10?
[13:11] <seb128> kenvandine, yeah, source needs to be MIRed for a binary to be promoted
[13:11] <seb128> so full review
[13:11] <kenvandine> right
[13:11] <tvoss> seb128: as opposed to me refactoring the qml bindings to dlopen the required so ... I would prefer an MIR
[13:11] <jgdx> what does that mean, no qml-module-bio without the whole smash?
[13:11]  * kenvandine wonders how that was missed
[13:12] <seb128> kenvandine, the list was probably built before that feature was landing in yakkety
[13:12] <kenvandine> i guess... but it's been quite a while now
[13:12] <kenvandine> anyway
[13:12] <seb128> yeah, dunno
[13:12] <kenvandine> we need it
[13:12] <seb128> it's also that u-s-s had a stack of depends to drop
[13:12] <seb128> system image, athercast, etc
[13:12] <seb128> so we assumed they were all being handled
[13:13] <kenvandine> i just dropped urfkill too :)
[13:13] <seb128> tvoss, the MIR is fine, just need somebody to do it and get security/MIR team to review and cross fingers they like it and don't want changes
[13:17] <jgdx> seb128, does this change the request you made some time ago? Dropping the depends?
[13:17] <seb128> kenvandine, jgdx, dbus-property-service also needs MIR or og
[13:17] <seb128> go
[13:17] <seb128> jgdx, well the request was to not have u-s-s depends on universe components, so MIR is a resolution, the other one is to drop the depends, I don't have a preference between those
[13:18] <kenvandine> qml-module-biometryd would be a hard one to drop
[13:18] <jgdx> okay
[13:19] <kenvandine> seb128, i'll look at dbus-property-service
[13:19] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks
[13:20]  * dobey wonders what will be picking up the depends for all the things ubuntu-sdk-libs pulls in
[13:22] <seb128> dobey, whatever needs those if anything?
[13:23] <dobey> seb128: they are the supported SDK for developing apps to run in unity8. doesn't address-book-app need qml-module-qtorganizer?
[13:24] <dobey> seb128: or are we expecting that people will bundle all this stuff with their apps when they package them as snaps?
[13:24] <seb128> dobey, if it does it should have a depends on it
[13:25] <seb128> dobey, we expect them to bundle everything for now and there is ongoing work on framework snaps
[13:25] <dobey> hmm, ok
[13:26] <jgdx> mterry, removing qml-module-biometryd from the phone, will unity8 still work? I'm looking at the rationale for a MIR.
[13:27] <jgdx> and I just recalled you do identification in the greeter
[13:27] <mterry> jgdx: we import it unconditionally...
[13:27] <jgdx> right
[13:28] <dobey> how does one get the unity8 greeter?
[13:29] <davmor2> dobey: hahahahahahahaha
[13:30] <davmor2> sorry was I using my outside typing again, I meant good luck with that :)
[13:31] <dobey> davmor2: yeah, last time i tried to make that happen, i ended up with a kvm that didn't boot and had to rebuild the image
[13:32] <mterry> jgdx: sorry which MIR is that from?
[13:32] <jgdx> mterry, bug 1626095
[13:32] <ubot5`> bug 1626095 in ubuntu-push (Ubuntu) "[MIR] biometryd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1626095
[13:33] <jgdx> woops, wrong package
[13:34] <mterry> dobey: it should be possible on the desktop.  Install the unity8-greeter package
[13:34] <mterry> I'm using it now
[13:34] <mterry> jgdx: ok will look
[13:34] <jgdx> mterry, thx
[13:46] <kenvandine> seb128, i can make dbus-property-service optional
[13:46] <kenvandine> we only use it for developer mode, which doesn't even make sense on the desktop
[13:47] <seb128> kenvandine, great
[13:47] <kenvandine> seb128, i'll make it only show that setting if we can set it
[13:47] <ahayzen> Mirv, just saw you comment on the qtmultimedia bug, thanks for the quick response :-)
[13:48] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks
[13:51] <ogra_> kenvandine, you use it for pesistent ssh access too ... so you definitely dont want it on normal desktops
[13:51] <dobey> kenvandine: but maybe i want to connect to adb over network to my computer though!
[13:52] <kenvandine> ogra_, indeed
[13:52] <ogra_> (though only devmode has UI bits ... but the service has a bunch of options on cmdline)
[13:52] <ogra_> (none of which i'd expose on desktop installs)
[13:54] <Mirv> ahayzen: you're welcome!
[14:18] <Michalp> Hello, I need help with flash MX4 to ubuntu by script, yesturay I was here and asnking for help, so I ma here...
[14:29] <Michalp> I tried flash ubuntu by script http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/08/19/magic-device-tool-helps-you-switch-between-android-and-ubuntu-on-supported-phones/ but fail
[14:53] <Michalp> how to flash ubunut to mx4?
[15:16] <faenil> Michalp: what error are you seeing?
[15:16] <faenil> Michalp: I think you'll find the developer of magic-tool on #ubports
[15:16] <dobey> mterry: so i installed unity8-greeter in my kvm. after a reboot, now i can't log in to unity 7 at all, and it seems i can't launch any click apps. fun :-/
[15:16] <faenil> Michalp: you could try asking for support there :)
[15:17] <dobey> faenil: he has an android mx4
[15:18] <Michalp> yes
[15:18] <faenil> dobey: oh...
[15:18] <Michalp>  android version
[15:18] <faenil> Michalp: so, it depends on whether you have a version which has a locked bootloader or not
[15:18] <faenil> if you have the european version, I think that's locked, so you cannot install any other OS on it
[15:18] <Michalp> I tried script and it flash recovery.img and now my twrp lost
[15:19] <faenil> is your bootloader unlocked?
[15:19] <Michalp> before yes, because It install when I install twrp
[15:20] <Michalp> I have now only ubuntu recovery and fastboot
[15:21] <Michalp> now
[15:21] <Michalp> but script say me that it can not boot to recovery and then flash recovery.img
[15:22] <faenil> ok
[15:22] <faenil> so I think you might want to ask in #ubports :)
[15:23] <Michalp> I see :(
[15:28] <faenil> Michalp: isn't that good news? someone might be able to help you out htere
[15:28] <faenil> ;)
[15:28] <Michalp> I hope so...
[15:29] <Michalp> in meantime, do sombody skill with flash by mtk tool?
[15:30] <Michalp> My ubuntu touch works fine on twrp, but I can not install OTA 13, that is why I need get clear instalation
[15:30] <faenil> long time since the last time I've used it, sorry..
[15:33] <Michalp> I tried this ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en --device arale but it show me not enough space
[15:34] <Michalp> If I click in UT for update, then restart show me recovery screen reset and nothing
[15:44] <faenil> Michalp: can you show us the full log? using pastebin.ubuntu.com for instance
[15:47] <Michalp> where I find the log?
[15:48] <Michalp> Or what?
[15:48] <davmor2> Michalp: you need the adb enabled recovery image from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices and then add it to your system line with --recovery-image recovery-arale.img
[15:51] <Michalp> so you mean something like this ? ​ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en --bootstrap --recovery-image recovery-arale.img
[15:52] <davmor2> Michalp: yeap
[15:52] <davmor2> if that reports the same thing it maybe that the device is an android device and the partition scheme is wrong
[15:55] <Michalp> BTW where I must be in phone? it wrote me, waitng for bootloader
[15:56] <davmor2> Michalp: in bootloader
[15:57] <Michalp> how go into? If I hold volume down and pwrbtn go to fastboot, and if I hold volume up + pwrbt I am in recovery
[15:59] <Michalp> bootloader I had before TWRP
[15:59] <davmor2> Michalp: use fast boot
[16:00] <Michalp> ok
[16:01] <Michalp> it wrote ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en --bootstrap --recovery-image recovery-arale.img 2016/09/21 18:01:02 Expecting the device to be in the bootloader... waiting exit status 1
[16:04] <davmor2> Michalp: oh sorry I thought you were on an ubuntu device already you might need to repartition to install Ubuntu.  you might get some tips from https://www.smoose.nl/sites/default/files/bestanden/meizu_pro5_ubuntu.pdf but please note that is for the mx pro 5 not arale so you would need to modify things accordingly
[16:04] <Michalp> but script flash recovery in fastboot
[16:04] <Michalp> before
[16:28] <Michalp> Ok, I am going to try it. Thanks for your time and help
[17:49] <kenvandine> mterry, i've responded to your comments on bug 1626095, including a branch which is in a silo
[17:49] <ubot5`> bug 1626095 in biometryd (Ubuntu) "[MIR] biometryd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1626095
[17:50] <kenvandine> mterry, perhaps you could do the packaging review for my branch?
[18:44] <kenvandine> mterry, the biometryd symbols file generated is different on xenial, yakkety and vivid
[18:44] <kenvandine> and some differences on some arches
[18:44] <Michalp> Hello Iam back, I follow https://www.smoose.nl/sites/default/files/bestanden/meizu_pro5_ubuntu.pdf and when I extract files, last one tell no space
[18:44] <kenvandine> mterry, would you hate me if i just dropped the symbols file? :-p
[18:56] <mterry> kenvandine: no not a blocker for main, just a nice to have
[19:11] <Michalp> any way, how is possible that cyanogen I can install but when extracting ubuntu files tell me no space??
[19:13] <Michalp> what is diiferent?
[19:19] <dobey> Michalp: as i already told you yesterday, the partitioning is different. you need to repartition the phone
[19:20] <Michalp> But how??????? exclude MTK
[19:20] <dobey> use the mtk tool
[19:20] <Michalp> it stress for me
[19:20] <dobey> if you want a different way to repartition an mtk device, you'll have to ask mtk how to do it
[19:21] <Michalp> Ok ok, I tried and no work.  Has android drivers for it?
[19:22] <Michalp> Has ubuntu drivers for mtk?
[19:22] <Michalp> I have mtk tool, I have images for it, I have instruction but no work, it doesn't find my deveice
[19:23] <fw190d13> hello!
[19:23] <dobey> well i don't know what else to tell you
[19:23] <fw190d13> which is the best chanell for nexus 4 - I'm in the proces of turing it to ubuntu
[19:26] <fw190d13> should I use "ubuntu" or aquarius as stated here http://askubuntu.com/questions/681500/i-used-the-wrong-channel-for-my-nexus-4-how-do-i-upgrade-it-and-what-channel-d
[19:28] <dobey> fw190d13: ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu probably
[19:29] <fw190d13> dobey: is rc not ready for daily use?
[19:30] <mimecar> hi
[19:31] <dobey> fw190d13: well it depends on what your definition of daily use is i guess. stable is the stable tested channel. rc is the testing prior to release channel, and rc-proposed has a bit less qa and daily builds.
[19:32] <fw190d13> dobey: daily driver - main and only phone
[19:34] <dobey> fw190d13: that is a decision only you can make for yourself. what i need daily out of a phone is not necessarily what you need daily out of a phone.
[19:35] <fw190d13> dobey: correct - I will go with the stable and maybe switch later
[19:35] <fw190d13> dobey: thanks for the tips - cheers
[19:35] <dobey> np
[19:37] <flohack> good eve
[19:37] <flohack> trying once more to rip off some hints ;)
[19:38] <flohack> ERROR: apport (pid 2826) Sat Sep 17 21:43:51 2016: called for pid 2760, signal 11, core limit 0
[19:38] <flohack> ERROR: apport (pid 2826) Sat Sep 17 21:43:51 2016: executable: /usr/bin/unity8 (command line "unity8 --mode=full-greeter")
[19:38] <flohack> ERROR: apport (pid 2826) Sat Sep 17 21:43:51 2016: gdbus call error: Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[19:38] <flohack> whats missing here, which service is not running?
[19:40] <flohack> Same for pulseaudio
[19:40] <flohack> ERROR: apport (pid 2342) Sat Sep 17 21:43:42 2016: executable: /usr/bin/pulseaudio (command line "pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog")
[19:41] <flohack> ERROR: apport (pid 2342) Sat Sep 17 21:43:42 2016: gdbus call error: Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[19:48] <aquarius_> does the phone kernel have cgroup net_cls support that I can switch on somewhere convenient? /sys/fs/cgroup/cgmanager exists, but I can't mount new things as cgroup, and cgm listcontrollers doesn't list net_cls on the phone (although it does on my desktop)
[19:50] <aquarius_> might be an ogra_ question, although I don't know who knows about this stuff :)
[19:50] <flohack> hmm this I dont know but I got this strange messages in dmesg:
[19:50] <flohack> [   10.024923] init: /init.endeavoru.rc: 142: invalid option 'cgroup'
[19:50] <flohack> [   10.025090] init: /init.endeavoru.rc: 149: invalid option 'cgroup'
[19:50] <flohack> [   10.025298] init: /init.endeavoru.rc: 155: invalid option 'cgroup'
[19:50] <flohack> [   10.026034] init: /init.endeavoru.rc: 163: invalid option 'cgroup'
[19:50] <flohack> [   10.037471] init: invalid uid 'autobot_access'
[19:50] <flohack> So the kernel config for me seems to have all features enabled for cgroup, why the heck its an invalid option in the android part?
[19:51] <flohack> And does it mean its just ignored or these services really dont start
[19:54] <flohack> aquarius_ thats the point, there is a gap of necessary documentation in order to enable more people working with it successfuly
[19:54] <aquarius_> hence me asking the question of kernel-ish people :)
[19:55] <flohack> but dont expect much answer :) I try already for a few days...
[19:57] <dobey> oh no, an aquarius_
[19:57] <dobey> tedg: ^^ you probably know about aquarius_'s question
[19:58] <aquarius_> heya dobey :)
[19:58] <tedg> aquarius_: I'm not certain, but I think that's a later version of cgroups than the kernel versions on the phones.
[19:58] <aquarius_> well, goshdarnit
[19:59] <dobey> flohack: i would guess that cgmanager is not part of the android container
[19:59] <tedg> aquarius_: I dont' remember what the list, but we had to use "freezer" for apps because it was the only reasonable shared one with all the kernels we needed to support.
[19:59] <dobey> flohack: the android container is the minimal set of things to get hardware working, and it's in a container separate from ubuntu
[19:59] <aquarius_> cgm listcontrollers | xargs echo -> cpu cpuacct debug freezer name=systemd
[19:59] <tedg> aquarius_: It was goofy :-/
[19:59] <aquarius_> no net_cls
[20:00] <flohack> dobey but the point is, if you look to the name of the file its in the device tree, the init is therefore the android container init, so how it cannot support this
[20:00] <aquarius_> and you can't mount -t cgroup -o net_cls cgroup /somewhere either because "mount: special device cgroup does not exist"
[20:00] <flohack> HTC specifically delivers their init.endeavoru.rc with these options, its not in Ubuntu part
[20:00] <aquarius_> bummer.
[20:00] <aquarius_> tedg: ok, so I'm out of luck with cgroups then :)
[20:01] <dobey> aquarius_: what kind of crazy thing are you trying to do? :)
[20:02] <aquarius_> dobey: filter network packets from one specific application
[20:02] <aquarius_> and iptables, which used to have --cmd-owner to do precisely that, no longer has it.
[20:02] <tedg> aquarius_: Yeah, kinda. cgroups became fun about 3.10-ish.
[20:02] <flohack> So its for example the following entry:
[20:02] <flohack> service rxn_intapp /system/bin/RXN_IntApp /system/etc/gnss/RXN/MSLConfig.txt
[20:02] <flohack>     class main
[20:02] <flohack>     user system
[20:02] <flohack>     group system
[20:03] <flohack>     cgroup bg
[20:03] <flohack> Does this error mean, it just ignores cgroup bg, or it wont start the whole service??
[20:03] <aquarius_> I am open to suggestions on how else to do it. See http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/311425/iptables-filter-packets-from-one-application-differently :)
[20:03] <aquarius_> tedg: the phone kernel *is* 3.10 ;) so maybe it became fun in 3.11 ;)
[20:05] <flohack> Shall I comment cgroup bg in the rc file and see whats happening?
[20:08] <dobey> aquarius_: no, it's only 3.10 on the Pro 5 and M10
[20:09] <dobey> aquarius_: the mx4 and other bq phones are 3.4
[20:10] <dobey> flohack: i have no idea :)
[20:10] <flohack> thanks dobey
[20:10] <flohack> I will try anyway ;)
[20:11] <flohack> but is the same init/upstart used for the android things or does it have its own init binary ?
[20:12] <aquarius_> yeah, but I've got a Pro 5 ;)
[20:12] <dobey> flohack: there is only one init process afaik
[20:13] <dobey> aquarius_: ok. anyway, lots of interesting drivers aren't enabled in the phone kernels, even when they did exist in 3.4 :)
[21:48] <elopio> john-mcaleely: ping. I'm hitting this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phablet-tools/+bug/1610650
[21:48] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1610650 in phablet-tools (Ubuntu) "can't sync sources" [Undecided,Fix committed]
[21:48] <elopio> it says to ping you.
[21:48] <popey> elopio: get thee to #canonical-sysadmin (or #is) and ask someone to poke the gerrit box
[21:49] <popey> john-mcaleely is basically a proxy for the above
[21:49] <elopio> popey: will do.
[21:54] <hri> got a BQ E4.5 android phone here
[21:54] <hri> trying to install ubuntu
[21:55] <hri> switching to fastboot mode, i get:
[21:55] <hri> "=> FASTBOOT mode ..."
[21:56] <hri> but no robot lying on its back graphics
[21:56] <hri> and the phone does not respond
[21:56] <hri> what do i do? aaaarghhh
[21:56] <mcphail> hri: what are you doing to try to install? You need to use the bq tool
[21:57] <mcphail> http://www.mibqyyo.com/en-articles/2015/09/16/ubuntu-android-installation-process-for-bq-aquaris-e4-5-and-e5/#/vanilla/discussion/embed/?vanilla_discussion_id=0
[21:58] <hri> mcphail, cool, tnx
[21:58] <mcphail> Follow that guide exactly. Don't skip any steps. You should be fine
[21:58] <hri> but how do i get out of the FASTBOOT mode ???
[21:59] <mcphail> hri: I don't think that even matters. IIRC, you connect the phone after power has been switched off
[21:59] <mcphail> It will then be flashed by the tool
[22:00] <hri> i cannot even switch it off anymore :-(
[22:00] <mcphail> hri: hold the power button for longer than you think you should have to
[22:00] <hri> i will
[22:01] <hri> holding power button for a minute or two now ...
[22:02] <hri> ... nothing happens
[22:02] <mcphail> keep the faith :)
[22:04] <hri> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/264047
[22:04] <hri> I had the same problem and I solved it by pressing not only the power button but all three buttons on the right side of the phone (power, volume+, volume-) during a few seconds.
[22:04] <hri> works!
[22:04] <hri> lalalala
[22:05] <mcphail> ha!
[22:06] <hri> on with the process, big thanks, mcphail
[22:06] <mcphail> hri: good luck
[22:07] <Thompson> Hey
[22:09] <Thompson> I'm trying to ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu-pd.zh my Meizu 5 Pro booted to the TWRP bootloader
[22:09] <dobey> cool
[22:09] <Thompson> But command returns 2016/09/22 01:01:01 Device is |m86|
[22:09] <Thompson> Device m86 not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu-pd.zh
[22:10] <dobey> you need to pass --device turbo to u-d-f then
[22:11] <dobey> is it a an MX5 Pro, or a Pro 5?
[22:12] <Thompson> pro 5
[22:12] <Thompson> now it says mkdir /root/.cache permission denied
[22:13] <Thompson> I'm pretty sure I told it to mount the system in read-write mode
[22:13] <dobey> did you repartition the device?
[22:13] <Thompson> no
[22:15] <dobey> did you follow the instructions at https://plus.google.com/103449842981186239877/posts/RBDbK82Lt83 ?
[22:17] <Thompson> no, that didn't turn up anywhere near the top of the search results
[22:17] <Thompson> Thank you
[22:17] <dobey> np
[22:48] <RLShiftyDoggit> hey guys
[23:00] <RLShiftyDoggit> anyone in here
[23:07] <RLShiftyDoggit> hello?
[23:10] <elopio> RLShiftyDoggit: hello
[23:11] <RLShiftyDoggit> oh hey you think you can give me a hand im a lil confused
[23:11] <k1l> RLShiftyDoggit: ask specific questions and people could answer. but keep in mind this channel is slow on europe nighttimes
[23:12] <RLShiftyDoggit> im trying to port ubuntu-touch and im stuck on the part on the kernel
[23:12] <RLShiftyDoggit> and honestly i think this channel is usually slow or its just my luck haha
[23:12] <elopio> I don't know much about porting, so I doubt I can be of help.
[23:13] <RLShiftyDoggit> merp