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lionhey00:20
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derpherp128http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html00:21
SchrodingersScat!ask | lion00:22
ubottulion: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:22
lionim from indonesia00:22
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normalcrayonQuick question: in my Grub menu I got two options that are EFI files... the 'Ubuntu' option just freezes the computer... is it safe to try the EFI boot options?00:22
derpherp128!patience00:23
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/00:23
derpherp128wow that's an extremely useful command actually00:23
SchrodingersScatderpherp128: and there's many more00:24
derpherp128really?00:24
isReal!patience00:24
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/00:24
normalcrayonhow about a patience2 command that encourages peoplenot to use the patience command?00:25
bazhangderpherp128, please investigate with /msg ubottu00:25
SchrodingersScat!id | lion, if you feel your english is good enough to get you through, then you can try here, otherwise try this channel.00:25
ubottulion, if you feel your english is good enough to get you through, then you can try here, otherwise try this channel.: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia00:25
SchrodingersScat!msgthebot | derpherp128 I forget the !flag that links to all the commands, maybe !factoid, idk.00:26
ubottuderpherp128 I forget the !flag that links to all the commands, maybe !factoid, idk.: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".00:26
derpherp128plz the pings :(00:26
Mintdows!help00:26
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:26
SchrodingersScat!mint | Mintdows, and you get this because your name is suspiciously minty00:27
ubottuMintdows, and you get this because your name is suspiciously minty: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org00:27
Mintdowswrong00:28
Mintdows!wrong00:29
* Mintdows :)00:29
tgm4883popey: what mouse do you have that periodically has the pointer get stuck?00:30
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normalcrayonWhat is fwupx64.efi ??00:42
tyronemorris ITEL Radio: Blackbird9 Guest Hosts – NSA Spying & Jewish Power Plays00:56
nestcantHi everyone..00:58
lionhi00:58
nestcantDo anybody problem with the bcm43162 wireless card???00:59
Lenclhihi01:01
Lenclso long ago, I went on the touchpad settings and checked the box that said something like "no touchpad when mouse is on"01:02
warmweatherShould we be concerned about Jewish butchers and a Jew World Order? Jew Banking? Jew Media? Jew Schooling? Jew Law? Jew Government? Jew Military? Jew Sadism? Jew What?01:02
Lencland it worked.. but ever since then, even after I unchecked it, the touchpad never works after I login01:02
Bashing-omnestcant: Broadcom is proprietary software . Help in the guide below:01:07
Bashing-om!bcm | nestcant01:07
ubottunestcant: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx01:07
ChristineSii'm seeing increases in antisemitism01:09
Lenclisn't that  crazy01:09
maddawg2hey all... i'm having trouble figuring out the correct syntax for mounting an sshfs automatically within fstab01:14
maddawg2i'm trying to figure out how to enter my password to the remote box automagically01:14
orlockmaddawg2: generally, you dont01:14
orlockmaddawg2: look up key/certificate based authentication01:15
maddawg2hmm i'll have to see if i can do that with my seedbox01:15
orlockyou generate rsa keys, and place the public key of the host you are connecting from, into the .authorised_keys file of the host you are connecting to01:16
orlockmaddawg2: so your seedbox can save directly to your local sshfs?01:16
orlockeliminating double handling of your ubuntu iso's?01:17
maddawg2of course but other way around01:17
maddawg2my local server mounts my seedbox via sshfs01:17
maddawg2and pulls the data down01:17
nestcantHi curlyears... I had a speakerphone logitech in my debian about six years.... It worked very good...01:20
nestcantTks ubottu...01:28
Lenclso long ago, I went on the touchpad settings and checked the box that said something like "no touchpad when mouse is on"01:29
Lencland it worked.. but ever since then, even after I unchecked it, the touchpad never works after I login01:29
nestcantBut the device-id dont work... I have tested many kernel modules and this device dont work... :(01:30
sersonihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_TrRdieyTQ01:31
sersoniExpulsion Of The Jews Throughout History [Impressive Achievement]01:31
OerHeks!ops01:31
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tonyyarussoLencl: They already left.01:33
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FoeHammeredSooo, I'm trying to install Dear Esther, a well-known walking simulator, and I seem to have run into serious problems. How do I install it? Present output looks like this: http://pastebin.com/eWT3fRAu01:40
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OerHeksFoeHammered, humble indie bundle game?01:42
Rarrikinsfengshaun: Try `sudo apt -f install` after `dpkg`.01:43
FoeHammeredOerHeks, yep.01:43
OerHeksia32 is long time gone01:43
OerHekslols01:43
FoeHammeredIndeed!01:43
OerHeksfind support with them, they get the money?01:43
RarrikinsFoeHammered: Try `sudo apt -f install` after `dpkg`.01:44
FoeHammeredI haven't had a lot of luck with that.01:44
FoeHammeredWell, it's trying to do something, Rarrikins.01:44
fengshaunRarrikins: ok thanks01:45
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FoeHammeredIs it deleting Dear Esther...? http://pastebin.com/8irkx15a01:45
FoeHammeredIn fact, I have no gosh darn idea WHAT it's doing.01:45
FoeHammeredRarrikins, what do you make of that?01:46
Bray90820Anyone here know much about UUID's my system keeps saying UUID not found then drops to busybox I checked the number it gave me and it's the same as my balked It does boot like 10% of the time but if I use nomoseset it boots 100% of the time01:47
RLShiftyDoggithey guys i installed cinnamon and today my laptop has been yelling at me about a system problem and cinnamon has been having issues showing my batt precent  i have to unplug the charger to get the right precentage01:48
OerHeksso, use nomodeset?01:48
RarrikinsFoeHammered: Usually that happens when the packages necessary aren't available anymore. You could go to the Ubuntu packages site and download and install missing dependencies from the most recent version of Ubuntu, but they're not guaranteed to work in the end.01:48
Bray90820I can only get that message if I use acpi=pff tho if I don't use ACPi off I just get a black screen01:48
FoeHammeredIndeed.01:48
FoeHammeredSo basically there's just a good chance it won't ever work?01:48
RarrikinsFoeHammered: I had to get the 15.10 version of some package to get Folding@home working on 16.04.01:49
FoeHammeredRarrikins: And, well, no guarantee how long that'll work.01:50
Bray90820OerHeks: Again I will tell you that nomodeset does things do the video drivers that I don't like01:50
RarrikinsFoeHammered: Right. The best option is to ask them to support whatever version of Ubntu01:51
FoeHammeredHuh. Fun.01:51
FoeHammeredIn other words, best case scenario, they'll open the source some day.01:51
OerHeksorriginal dear-ester has not that funny number in it, so you use a torrent :-D01:51
OerHeksreally bad01:51
RarrikinsFoeHammered: you use. Tell them the error messages you got and that the packages are either renamed or gone.01:51
FoeHammeredRarrikins: Fair enough. So basically send them the pastebins I just made, and cross my fingers?01:52
RarrikinsFoeHammered: Yeah.01:52
FoeHammeredRarrikins: And if nobody there is really conscious anymore in some manner or another, nothing will come of it.01:53
FoeHammeredPft. From the Dear Esther website: Currently Available On: Windows XP/Vista/7,  Macintosh OS X 10.6.701:58
FoeHammeredI am not optimistic.01:58
FoeHammeredI think I'll see how well the Windows version works in Wine. Thanks for helping me learn more, Rarrikins and OerHeks.02:04
spizzbest way to connect to a vsphere client gui from ubuntu?02:05
spizzcurrently considering windows VM in virtualbox....is that my best option02:06
maddawg2so I just ran this command to add a repo... "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jcfp/ppa"02:09
maddawg2what's the oppossite to remove that02:09
maddawg2as that's the wrong repo02:09
maddawg2nvm got it02:10
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RLShiftyDoggithas anyone here messed with ubuntu-touch?02:20
knight__has anyone got skyrim to work using pol or wine?02:22
RLShiftyDoggiti have02:22
knight__what version of wine or pol did you use?02:23
RLShiftyDoggitit runs ok but id suggest getting win 7 and dual booting02:23
RLShiftyDoggitpol uses wine libs to run alot of games you can get it to run on either02:24
knight__ya im debating on it. prob is this laptop is crap lol. i had to put ubuntu back on it after it wouldnt boot back into windows earlier02:24
RLShiftyDoggitpol is gonna be your best bet02:24
knight__any specific settings i need to change to play it?02:25
RLShiftyDoggithow do you have it set right now02:26
knight__just default. i tried to play a game called lucent heart and the screen was flickering so bad i couldnt play it02:27
RLShiftyDoggitwhat is your laptop specs?02:27
RLShiftyDoggitit could be your hardware is crap and cant handle it02:28
knight__uh honestlly idk i just got it a few days ago. know the term commands to find out?02:28
knight__a friend of mine gave it to me lol02:28
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RLShiftyDoggithold up ill look02:29
knight__thanks02:29
RLShiftyDoggitsudo apt-get install hardinfo02:29
RLShiftyDoggitsudo lshw -short02:30
RLShiftyDoggitlspci -v02:30
RLShiftyDoggitthose commands should give you the specs02:30
RLShiftyDoggitlspci -v will show graphics etc02:31
RLShiftyDoggitlshw -short will give you some hardware specs02:31
knight__ok hold on02:32
knight__ok got the info what do you want to know?02:33
RLShiftyDoggitwhat do you got man02:35
RLShiftyDoggitjust copy and paste what it shows02:36
knight__    system      HP Pavilion g6 Notebook PC (B5A04UA#ABA02:36
cashHi Everyone02:39
knight__    system      HP Pavilion g6 Notebook PC (B5A04UA#ABA02:40
knight__AMD A6-4400M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Gra02:40
knight__4GiB System Memory02:40
knight__96KiB L1 cache02:40
knight__ 4GiB SODIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1600 MHz02:40
knight__VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Trinity [Radeon HD 7520G] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])02:40
RLShiftyDoggitwell ive always had issues w AMD02:41
RLShiftyDoggithold on man02:41
Adam__Hey, I have a question about memory layout in C... Would this be the right place to ask?02:41
knight__like the prog language C?02:42
Adam__yeah, I'm trying to find the address of where the uninitialized data segment ends and where the stack starts for a given program02:42
Adam__I've printed out the addresses of my functions so far... I know the stack starts somewhere around 0xbf02:43
knight__idk i'm currently learning VB at the moment. why? jw02:44
Adam__trying to exploit a buffer overflow02:44
Adam__just on my machine02:44
knight__hmm what program are you using to edit  it in real time? you could use cheat engine it tracks stuff like that i think02:45
joenutsIs there any way I can install ubuntu without unwanted packages ( like sosreport, unattended-upgrades, whiptail, ureadahead ... ), or do I have to just remove those following the install?02:46
knight__what way are you installing it?02:46
RLShiftyDoggitAdam what are you trying to do02:46
Adam__Trying to find the address of the start of the stack02:46
joenutstried using preseed and kickstart files, but can't for the life of me even figure out how the packages are getting in there02:47
Adam__I know the general memory layout of any given program02:47
Adam__text segment, initialized data segment, uninitialized data segment, stack02:47
joenuts( installing off CD, entering in kernel parameters to seed kickstart and/or preseed file )02:47
RLShiftyDoggitknight02:47
Adam__do I use gdb?02:47
RLShiftyDoggithttp://www.steamgamesonlinux.com/skyrim-the-elder-scrolls-v/02:47
RLShiftyDoggityou could try gdb i wouldnt see harm in it02:48
knight__thanks RLShiftyDoggit02:49
cuppateaI just installed elementary OS and I cannot get a DVD to play02:49
cuppateathe DVD appears like a disc with files in it instead of a DVD that I can play02:49
cuppateacan anyone help me?02:49
lordcirthcuppatea, this is #ubuntu channel, not elementary OS02:50
cuppateait's based on ubuntu, isn't it?02:50
cashGuys when will firefox 49 be available via sudo apt update?02:50
lordcirthcuppatea, non-official Ubuntu spins aren't supported here, sorry.02:51
RLShiftyDoggitno prob knight also youtube has a crap load of tuts on it02:51
cuppateaok, well can you tell me what you would do if this were ubuntu?02:51
RLShiftyDoggitthat depends on the issue02:52
cuppateaI switched to elementary OS because the exact same thing happened in the previous install, which was ubuntu02:52
Ben64cuppatea: sorry, that doesn't work here02:52
RLShiftyDoggitif i remeber elementery os is deb based right?02:52
cuppateaubuntu02:52
cuppateaI just checked distrowatch02:52
lordcirthRLShiftyDoggit, lots of things use .deb, they are often very different.02:53
knight__i normally go there but i was irritated about the whole lucent heart thing lol02:53
RLShiftyDoggitim not surpised lord02:53
RLShiftyDoggitand knight youtube has some that work its all trial and error02:53
knight__thats true. lol i cant tell you how many video i went through trying to mod my ps3 and still cant do it02:54
RLShiftyDoggitxD02:54
RLShiftyDoggita PS3 i can do that with my eyes closed bro02:54
RLShiftyDoggitjust go get a CFW02:55
knight__hey shifty i tried to run the winetricks steam in term and it did fine theen popped02:55
RLShiftyDoggitput it on USB and flash update02:55
knight__this out sha1sum mismatch!  Rename /home/knight/.cache/winetricks/steam/SteamSetup.exe and try again.02:55
knight__shifty ya but my ps3 is 4.80 ofw02:55
RLShiftyDoggituse win version of steam via pol02:55
RLShiftyDoggitits been having issues on ubuntu 16.04LTS02:56
knight__i installed steam through pol but it actually logged me out of the session02:56
RLShiftyDoggitgo get the script off pol's website02:57
knight__what script?02:57
siva_machinayou have to be registered on Freenode now to be on here?03:01
daxonly during spam attacks03:03
new__when clicking the "Encrpyt the new Ubuntu installation for security" in ubuiquity during installation for 16.04, does this encrpyt the root and swap partitions as well?03:04
daxnew__: there are two options for encryption during install. the one that mentions home directory just does ~/. the other one (I think the one you quoted) does everything except /boot03:06
siva_machinanew__, it is Full disk encryption. So yes03:06
siva_machinamost of the disk encryption03:06
siva_machina>.>03:06
new__most of the disk encrpytion?03:08
siva_machinawell if it was full. shouldn't that mean your boot partition?03:08
siva_machina>.>03:09
joenutsugh. so frustrating. even when selecting "manual package install", I end up with a bunch of trash packages like snapd that I will never use.03:15
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FoeHammeredOerHeks, Rarrikins: In case it ever comes up again, Dear Esther seems to work well enough in the latest version of Wine (as found in the Wine repo; dunno about the Ubuntu repo.)03:23
FoeHammeredCan't say anything meaningful about Steam in that regard; the framework is there, but my copy doesn't have or need it for Windows.03:23
RLShiftyDoggitErrors were encountered while processing:03:24
RLShiftyDoggit /var/cache/apt/archives/zlib1g-dev_1%3a1.2.8.dfsg-2ubuntu4_i386.deb03:24
RLShiftyDoggitE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)03:24
RLShiftyDoggitwhats this mean guys03:24
RLShiftyDoggiti have a 64-bit box i shouldnt be having issues installing 32-bit programs03:24
RarrikinsRLShiftyDoggit: What errors are shown above that?03:25
RLShiftyDoggitdpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/zlib1g-dev_1%3a1.2.8.dfsg-2ubuntu4_i386.deb (--unpack):03:26
RLShiftyDoggit trying to overwrite '/usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/zconf.h', which is also in package lib32z1-dev 1:1.2.8.dfsg-2ubuntu403:26
RLShiftyDoggitProcessing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu3) ...03:26
RLShiftyDoggitProcessing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...03:26
RLShiftyDoggitProcessing triggers for install-info (6.1.0.dfsg.1-5) ...03:26
RLShiftyDoggitProcessing triggers for doc-base (0.10.7) ...03:26
RLShiftyDoggitso idk what the issue is man03:27
RLShiftyDoggitand drone sorry bout that03:27
RLShiftyDoggitRarrikins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23209891/03:30
knight__ive got one more question. ive got steam installed through wine but its having issues updating it keeps saying check my internet connection.03:31
RLShiftyDoggithaha great03:31
knight__anyone ever experienced that lol?03:32
RLShiftyDoggitok open it via terminal so you can see whats going on03:32
knight__ok03:32
RarrikinsRLShiftyDoggit: It says that there's a conflict because the package you're installing and lib32z1-dev both install the same file.03:32
RarrikinsRLShiftyDoggit: Perhaps remove lib32z1-dev if you don't need it.03:32
RLShiftyDoggithmm ok03:33
RLShiftyDoggit]lib32z1-dev installed fine on its own03:34
RLShiftyDoggitim confused03:34
knight__dont i open steam using the terminal by typing steam?03:34
RLShiftyDoggitif its wine you run wine via terminal03:35
RLShiftyDoggitthen proceed as normal just dont close term03:35
knight__it said it was installed but i just ran sudo apt-get wine steam and its installing now. one sec03:36
knight__hey RLShiftyDoggit do you know of anyway  to mod a 4.80 ofw ps3? do .pup file that i have found will do it03:38
knight__i mean *no03:38
RLShiftyDoggitrunning a cfw on a ps3 is one two done03:39
RLShiftyDoggithonestly03:39
RLShiftyDoggitjust find the cfw put it on a usb then put it in the ps3 then run it man03:40
RLShiftyDoggitim not gonna go thru it all the way since this isnt the place03:40
knight__i know sorry lol.03:40
knight__i was just wondering if you have heard of the ofw 4.80 being downgraded or had cfw put on it without a flasher03:41
RLShiftyDoggityour fine man i dont think anyone is really paying attention probably busy grabbing coffee and coding haha03:41
knight__lol true tre03:41
knight__true03:42
knight__you know any programming languages?03:42
RLShiftyDoggita few03:43
RLShiftyDoggiti used to do alot of psp modding03:43
RLShiftyDoggitlol03:43
knight__same here lol.03:43
RLShiftyDoggiti PMed you some stuff man03:44
glitchdi never got into psp modding, but i still mod original xbox's all the time lol03:44
RLShiftyDoggiti dont wanna piss off the mods here03:44
glitchdright on03:44
RLShiftyDoggithaha original xbox running ubuntu03:45
knight__lol is it hard to put linux on the ps3?03:45
RLShiftyDoggitno03:45
RLShiftyDoggitive done it xD03:45
knight__id like ubuntu on mine if i cant mod it03:45
RLShiftyDoggitgot bored03:45
RLShiftyDoggithell my old 360 was running linux03:46
glitchdRLShiftyDoggit, ubuntu on xbox? nah, but there is a distro that runs on it. i think its a version of dsl03:46
glitchdi used to run dsl on my og xbox but it wasnt worth it03:46
RLShiftyDoggityeah no it wasnt03:47
Ben64please try to keep this channel on topic03:47
glitchdive got computers for that shit03:47
knight__do yall like the unity desktop or the original gnome?03:47
glitchdBen64, but no one is asking questions relating to ubuntu right now, i dont see the harm..03:47
Ben64because it's the rules. use #ubuntu-offtopic or somewhere else for non-support discussion03:48
glitchdknight__, im all xfce over here03:48
glitchdBen64, alrighty then03:48
RLShiftyDoggitbrb guys03:48
knight__i prefer gnome honestlly. i mean if you have a touch screen then yea but for what i do gnome is fine03:49
knight__Ben64, is there an update for ubuntu coming anytime soon? or will it be 16.04 for awhile?03:51
Ben6416.10 is the next version, due in 2016.1003:51
knight__any idea what new things will be introduced?03:52
rsvCan i install an older version of ubuntu along with a newer version of ubuntu?03:52
Ben64knight__: you can join #ubuntu+1 for discussion on the next version03:53
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knight__Thanks Ben64.03:54
knight__has anyone had the problem of steam saying its not connected to the internet when its installed through wine?04:01
knight__i just installed it and it has to update and it keeps disconnecting itself apparently. ive looked online and cant find a fix04:02
knight__it will download for a min or two the that fatal error will pop up04:03
joenutsbah, even with expert mode install, still getting unwanted packages, and it seems like 16.04 introduced a "bug" breaking manual package selection, which is low priority to fix. guess i'm out of luck04:03
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glitchdknight__, why are you installing it through wine?04:07
glitchdknight__, get the linux install package04:07
glitchdknight__, i have steam installed and it works fine04:08
knight__Glitchd__ im installing it through wine because i want  to play skyrim lol and my brother has it on his account04:09
vbrifI'm so serious ubuntu now04:13
vbrifThis feels awesome!04:13
MaimsterHow's everyone doing tonight?04:13
vbrifGood and you?04:13
MaimsterNo real complaints.04:13
MaimsterGetting back to my console and things are good.04:14
knight__has anyone ever got this error with winetricks?04:17
knight__sha1sum mismatch!  Rename /home/knight/.cache/winetricks/steam/SteamSetup.exe and try again.04:17
vbrifGood to hear04:17
vbrifIt means your download is corrupt04:18
vbrifOf whatever you are trying to run04:18
vbrifI'm pretty sure anyhow04:18
vbrifWhat are you trying to run?04:18
knight__i'm installing steam through the terminal04:18
knight__thats the final message i get04:18
vbrifrif04:19
vbrifLet me try to install04:19
knight__okay04:20
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vbrifI got it04:24
vbrifhttps://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-steam-on-ubuntu-16-04-xenial-xerus04:25
vbrifFollow step #204:25
vbrifLet me know if it worked04:26
knight__ok hold on04:26
seed_asdf04:26
seed_yo?04:26
vbrifJKL;04:27
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glitchdknight__, are u still trying to get steam to work?04:34
RLShiftyDoggitdamn kinght is still on that04:35
vbrif_hes good now04:35
glitchdlol finally04:35
knight__ya on wine i am04:35
glitchdpretty sure theres a .deb install file for steam04:35
glitchddidnt think it was only for wine..04:35
vbrif_Nah you got to jump through a few hoops04:36
glitchdbut ive been wrong before, so..yea04:36
vbrif_but there is a deb04:36
RLShiftyDoggithes tryna run skyrim04:36
alkisgSure there's a deb for steam04:36
vbrif_I don't see the point for gaming on linux04:36
vbrif_that is what my desktop rig is for04:36
alkisgHaha, why, it isn't an OS?04:36
RLShiftyDoggitthere is a deb for it but hes tryna run skyrim via wine/pol04:36
RLShiftyDoggitand vbrif_ do you realize how much smoother games run natively on linux compared to windows04:37
vbrif_No clue honestly04:37
RLShiftyDoggitalot smoother man04:38
vbrif_I just started using ubuntu a few weeks ago04:38
vbrif_I'm a windows pro04:38
knight__well thats crap it finally updated on wine and it crashed my ux04:38
vbrif_but got nothing on this os04:38
knight__it literally logged me out04:38
RLShiftyDoggitman linux is a power house compared to windows04:38
RLShiftyDoggitand knight wine is a pain your gonna have to config it to run04:39
knight__screw it dual boot it is. hmmm or maybe virtual box. i forgot about that04:40
RLShiftyDoggitVB oh god04:40
vbrifI actually haven't even install gfx drivers04:40
knight__lol you recommend another one?04:40
vbrifmy 960m gfx driver broke my display and I wasn't able to login04:40
RLShiftyDoggitknight im looking at my pol steam settings for ya hold up04:42
knight__ok thanks04:42
RLShiftyDoggiti forgot i actually set that up on here04:42
knight__lol04:42
mylistoARGH!04:44
mylistoI cannot find out for the life of me why my video in kdenlive is going out of sync with the audio.  I'm at my wits end.04:44
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RLShiftyDoggitknight04:46
RLShiftyDoggithttps://www.playonlinux.com/en/app-4-Steam.html04:46
Guest53974hi can someone please give a look to this http://askubuntu.com/questions/827674/public-wifi-connected-but-no-internet-accessubuntu-16-0404:47
traskenThanks give me one sec04:48
knight__give me one sec04:48
knight__ive got it running throuh Pol04:50
knight__lets see what happens lol04:50
Bray90820Maybe someone here can help me my system keeps saying UUID not found then drops to busybox I checked the number it gave me and it's the same as my balked It does boot like 10% of the time but if I use nomoseset it boots 100% of the time I can only get that message if I use acpi=off if I don't use acpi=off I get a black screen05:01
RLShiftyDoggituh that i cant help you on i dont beileve i have busybox on here05:02
alkisgBray90820: so if you don't change anything, you're getting a black screen without the uuid message?05:02
alkisgRLShiftyDoggit: busybox is installed in all debian and ubuntu systems05:03
Bray90820alkisg: yes 90% of the time and 10% of time time it boots05:03
RLShiftyDoggitoh ok ]05:03
alkisgBray90820: have you booted it with nomodeset now? What's the output of lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA05:03
Bray90820alkisg: should run that command while booted with or without nomodeset05:04
alkisgBray90820: it doesn't matter as long as it's booted05:04
Bray90820Ok05:05
Bray90820alkisg: While we wait would the output of dimes help at all?05:07
alkisgWhat's that?05:08
Bray90820sorry i meant dimesg05:08
Bray90820*Dmesg05:08
alkisgIt might, but I don't understand, if you can run dmesg, why can't you run the other command.05:09
Bray90820I can run the other commands but I already ran dmesg a few hours ago and am still trying to get correctly booted to run the other commands05:10
alkisgSure, give the dmesg link05:10
Bray90820https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/Output.txt05:11
alkisgWhat's that, Ubuntu 16.10?05:11
Bray9082016.0405:11
alkisgWhy and how the 4.8 kernel?05:11
Bray90820I manually updated because The older kernel was having issue with audio but the older kernel was' booting ether05:12
alkisg"was ' booting ether" do you mean "wasn't booting either"?05:13
Bray90820Yes I meant wasn't05:13
v3n0mHey05:13
alkisgAnd the audio issues were solved with the new kernel?05:13
v3n0mI am having problems with wine05:14
Bray90820Not completely but it's wildly more stable with the new Kernel05:14
Bray90820I still have no audio tho05:14
v3n0mit says that cannot starting point or something05:14
alkisgI'd propose to use the supported kernel instead05:14
Bray90820What number?05:15
alkisgAnd why the "intel_idle.max_cstate=0 intel_pstates=disabled" parameters?05:15
Bray90820I don't know what that is05:15
EriC^^alkisg: it's a one of a kind tablet with uefi 32bit and some hack mods to use ubuntu05:15
alkisgYou put that in the cmdline05:15
EriC^^Bray90820: for pete's sake05:15
EriC^^.....05:15
alkisgOuch05:15
alkisgOK, I'm outta here :P :D05:15
Bray90820Hello EriC^^05:16
alkisgThanks for the warning EriC^^ :)05:16
Bray90820At this point I am debating using nomodeset but I am getting closer to resolving it05:16
EriC^^alkisg: np :)05:16
Bray90820EriC^^: Anything more you can do with me?05:16
EriC^^i'd use nomodeset and call it a day05:18
EriC^^or in your case, a couple weeks05:18
Bray90820Haha05:18
Bray90820What does nomodeset even do?05:19
EriC^^it's for the graphics in the tty05:20
EriC^^and so the switching between tty and the gui is more quick and seemless05:20
alkisgIt disables the new graphics system (KMS) so that the old one is used, with older graphics drivers etc05:20
EriC^^tty being ctrl+alt+f105:20
v3n0mhey help me05:21
ryderegMuch like Theodore Kaufman, Louis Nizer, and Henry Morgenthau (all jews), Earnest Hooton (another jew) wanted to see the German people destroyed, but he sought to do it with mass non-White male immigration. Ursula Haverbeck, who is now a political prisoner for exposing Holocaust lies, lays out the genocidal plans against the German people in her last public address.05:22
rydereghttp://www.renegadetribune.com/ursula-haverbeck-hooton-plan-migrant-crisis/05:22
lotuspsychje!ask | v3n0m05:23
ubottuv3n0m: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:23
docgiHow can I disable the ALT + ` shortcut? it display the alt tab hud with a snap of the current window05:30
lotuspsychje!hotkeys | docgi05:31
ubottudocgi: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/ - See !Keyboard for changing layouts. A list of keyboard shortcuts for Unity is available at http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=2209015&seqNum=305:31
docgi!Keyboard05:32
ubottuTo switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard | KDE: System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout | XFCE: Settings -> Settings Manager -> Keyboard, Layout05:32
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jamessHey, good morning:)  would you like to make this room in a new chat?  Visit irc network www.greekchat.eu05:43
lotuspsychjejames000-: no advertising here plz05:46
noobuntu'Ubuntu Software' in 16.04 just keeps stuck at the loading animation for everything. Is this a known bug?05:50
RLShiftyDoggituninstall software center then reinstall05:50
noobuntusudo apt-get remove software-center?05:53
noobuntuRLShiftyDoggit:  ^ ^05:53
RLShiftyDoggiti think i dont remember05:53
noobuntuhow to find out?05:54
RLShiftyDoggitTo uninstall Software Center:05:55
RLShiftyDoggit    sudo apt-get remove software-center05:55
RLShiftyDoggit    sudo apt-get autoremove software-center05:55
RLShiftyDoggitTo re-install Software Center:05:55
RLShiftyDoggit    sudo apt-get update05:55
RLShiftyDoggit    sudo apt-get install software-center05:55
popeytgm4883: built in touchpoint05:55
popeyRLShiftyDoggit: the remove step is un-necessary, autoremove does the remove, fwiw05:56
noobuntuRLShiftyDoggit: the new one is ubuntu-software actually. what is the autoremove for btw?05:56
RLShiftyDoggiti just copied it off ubuntu fourms xD05:57
RLShiftyDoggithttp://askubuntu.com/questions/133456/can-i-uninstall-and-reinstall-ubuntu-software-center05:57
noobuntuwill sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-software05:58
noobuntuwork?05:58
RLShiftyDoggittry it idk05:58
noobuntuok tried both. still stuck at loading animation05:59
noobuntulemme restart and see06:00
hebqhi,everybody.is there any command which could list all the change of software in some time?06:05
kiki_hhi06:09
kiki_i'm not sure if here may I can ask about some issues Ive06:10
v3n0mHey, btw which is the best SATA Operation mode for Ubuntu? ATA ? AHCI ? RAID ? or Legacy ?06:10
Blue1I have had good luck with ahci - but as they say YMMV applies06:10
kiki_how can I decompress img.xz file? always appears an error of too large file when I try to use unzx06:11
EriC^^kiki_: tar xvf file.xz06:11
EriC^^kiki_: is i a fat32 you're decompressing on?06:11
EriC^^*it06:11
kiki_yes Eric06:11
EriC^^they can't handle more than 4g files06:12
Blue1What EriC^^ said06:12
v3n0mHey, btw which is the best SATA Operation mode for Ubuntu? ATA ? AHCI ? RAID ? or Legacy ?06:13
v3n0mHelp me out please.06:13
Blue1v3n0m: as I said I have had good luck with AHCI but YMMV applies06:13
v3n0mOkay I don't have YMMV in mine.06:13
v3n0mI have to AHCI otherwise RAID06:14
Blue1Your Mileage May Vary06:14
v3n0mIt's good?06:14
v3n0m*set to06:14
kiki_its weird because when I try to complete it by pressing the TAB key06:14
kiki_uhmm well doesnt happen.06:14
Blue1v3n0m: try ahci -- YMMV -- your mileage may vary06:14
EriC^^kiki_: doesn't say there's not enough space when you press tab?06:14
v3n0mYMMV?06:14
v3n0mBlue106:14
EriC^^*does it06:14
v3n0mave you used wine?06:14
v3n0m*have you06:15
Aranjedeathit literally says it right there06:15
EriC^^ymmv = Your Miles May Vary06:15
v3n0mI have problems with wine.06:15
Blue1v3n0m: Your Mileage May Vary - iow it may or may not work for you - it depends on many factors06:15
kiki_nope Eric :(06:15
EriC^^kiki_: does tab complete work for other files?06:16
kiki_it happens when i try to use unzx command06:17
EriC^^what about tar xvf ?06:17
kiki_tar: This does not look like a tar archive06:18
kiki_tar: Skipping to next header06:18
kiki_tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors06:18
ducassekiki_: you need tar xvfJ06:19
Blue1tar -xvfj06:19
EriC^^ducasse: xvf should figure it out by itself06:19
ubuntu-matehello06:19
Blue1how tex06:20
aniketh_I want to change os from ubuntu to KDE neon. Can I do the change without affecting any of my files ? LIke an upgrade .06:20
Blue1ubuntu-mate: sup?06:20
ubuntu-mateimfrom brazil06:20
ubuntu-matesuper06:20
kiki_tar: j: Cannot open: No such file or directory06:21
kiki_tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now06:21
Blue1aniketh_: if /home is in a separate partition, yes.  if not you should backup /etc/ and /home/ before proceeding.06:21
kiki_here is where I downloaded my file: https://sourceforge.net/projects/beaglesnes/files/v0.7%20Release/06:21
kiki_it has the name: beaglesnes_full.v0.7.img.xz06:21
kiki_:(06:26
kiki_here in the manual says: first download the image and then use bunzip2 to decompress it06:27
Blue1kiki_: I am d/l the image it will take several minutes06:27
kiki_but bunzip2 doesnt work D:06:28
kiki_OK06:28
kiki_thanks Blue106:28
kiki_I'm downloading it again beacause i've downloaded in win1006:28
Blue1kiki_: I am trying tar -xvj it hasn't given me an error yet - that might work....06:31
Triffid_Hunterkiki_: xz? you may need xzdec rather than bunzip2.. bunzip2 is for bz2 files06:32
kiki_u sure Blue1? S:06:32
kiki_as I said I'm downloading it again wait me 4 min. pls06:33
Blue1kk06:33
Triffid_Hunterkiki_: perhaps xzcat file | tar -xv or so06:33
kiki_Thanks Triffid, I'll try it after trying tar -xvj06:34
Blue1kiki_: that didn't error out but it didn't finish either06:35
kiki_didnt finish?06:35
Blue1kiki_: nope06:36
kiki_kiki@kiki-ubuntuMSI:~/Downloads$ tar -xvfj beaglesnes_full.v0.7.img.xz06:37
kiki_tar: j: Cannot open: No such file or directory06:37
kiki_tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now06:37
v3n0m_I have installed wine but can't get to work MW206:37
v3n0m_Call of Duty Modern Warfare 206:37
Blue1kiki_: right it's not an archive file06:38
Blue1kiki_: so the -f is not the right option -- it doesn't complain with -xvj but that also does not seem to work06:39
kiki_kiki@kiki-ubuntuMSI:~/Downloads$ tar -xvj beaglesnes_full.v0.7.img.xz06:39
kiki_tar: Refusing to read archive contents from terminal (missing -f option?)06:39
kiki_tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now06:39
kiki_lol06:39
kiki_Triffid_Hunter says to me: perhaps xzcat file | tar -xv or so06:40
Triffid_Hunterkiki_: oh it's an image, not a tar archive06:40
Blue1oh Doh06:41
Triffid_Hunterkiki_: just xzdec file and you should get the img06:41
kiki_xzdec?06:41
kiki_you mean xz -d?06:41
Triffid_Hunterkiki_: likely the same thing06:41
kiki_ok im installing xzdec06:42
kiki_it seems to work06:43
kiki_but the terminal shows me a lot of weird stuff06:43
kiki_y'know numbers and weird images06:44
kiki_i mean characters06:44
nimmskiki_: redirect it to a file.06:44
kiki_should I ctrl + z?06:44
Blue1kiki_: probably need to do something like xzdec -d beagle(whatever)  > somename.img06:45
kiki_then redirect to a file?06:45
Triffid_Hunterkiki_: ctrl+c, xzdec blah.img.xz > blah.img06:45
nimmskiki_: don't use Ctrl+Z, use Ctrl+C.06:45
kiki_ok06:45
Triffid_HunterI thought xzdec would be different to xzcat, and more like gunzip06:45
nik3My ubuntu 16.04 is taking a long time to boot up, its taking almost 2 minutes. What can be the possible reasons.06:46
Blue1kiki_: so far the file is about 8G06:46
nimmsnik3: network configuration probably.06:47
Blue1kiki_: this is what I ended up with:  -rw-rw-r-- 1 nwayno nwayno 7549747200 Sep 20 23:45 abc.img06:47
kiki_it seems to work :O06:47
kiki_nice Blue1, Triffid and nimms :D06:48
kiki_thank you very much06:48
Blue1kiki_: now use your favourite cd burning software -- looks like with the size, you may need a dual layer or a usb flash drive06:48
andrewjs18hi all, is there a bug with ubuntu 16.04 where mail isn't using the name listed in /etc/mailname?06:49
adamicronI'd like to install a command utility not available in ubuntu's repo, but available on pypi (it's in python)06:52
adamicronhow bad is it to do a system-wide pip install?06:52
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tapas_hello06:59
alkisgHello06:59
tapas_My ubuntu has wrong time06:59
nimmsadamicron: even `sudo make install` isn't bad if it gets installed to /usr/local and you're the only one who's administering the system. `pip` isn't bad at all. It's a package manager, and you could easily clean up if you needed.06:59
tapas_even sudo ntpq -p shows the error but doesnt fix it07:00
nimmstapas_: what error?07:00
tapas_not error that time is not corrent07:00
Triffid_Huntertapas_: ntp will only slowly change the time, you need to stop ntp and run ntpdate for a discontinuous update07:00
Triffid_Huntertapas_: also ensure your timezone is correct otherwise ntpdate will fix your clock but you'll still have wrong time showing up everywhere07:01
nimmstapas_: sudo ntpd -q07:01
tapas_yes it is correct07:01
tapas_i restated ntp nothing07:02
tapas_clock is 10 minutes07:02
tapas_behind07:02
Triffid_Huntertapas_: you can also start ntpd with -g option, not sure how to do that in ubuntu though07:02
nimmstapas_: wait a couple of minutes, the update is not immediate. Also force it with the command i gave above.07:03
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alkisgtapas_: try this: date; sudo service ntp stop; sudo ntpd -gq; sudo service ntp start; date07:04
alkisgI.e. the ntp service needs to be stopped for ntpd -gq to function07:04
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adamicronnimms: thanks07:07
siva_machinathe ntp package isn't even installed for me07:10
siva_machinabut then again I think Unity is automatically check online though07:12
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aniketh_Blue1: Don't know much about it , how to copy it and use it my new os. the main thing I want to restore is the packages I have installed and files localhost/  (/var/www/html)07:15
rahul-kuminick07:17
rlamayohi07:19
crazyadmis there channel for krylin07:22
popeycrazyadm: what's krylin?07:25
crazyadmubuntu krylin07:25
crazyadmkylin07:25
popeyKylinoh, kylin.07:26
popeyer, kylin :)07:26
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popeythere is #ubuntukylin-devel07:26
popeybut I don't know of any support channels for it07:26
trooper900http://bbs.dailystormer.com/uploads/default/original/3X/5/2/52b3e68c71caec1f569ae52007f92e9402e0e06d.jpeg07:30
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crazyadmyou should try it, ubuntu kylin07:47
crazyadmquite good07:47
crazyadmmaybe better than ubuntu07:47
IvanaHello07:52
Ivanacan anyoone help me diagnose why my intenret is so slow07:52
Ivanamy friend is connected to the same network and did a speedtest of over 125mbps download07:52
Ivanai get under 1mbps download07:52
alkisgIvana: do you have a wifi or wired LAN connection?07:55
Ivanawifi07:55
Ivanaim in university but it has the same issue at home07:55
alkisgAnd do you have the same slow speeds with lan too?07:55
alkisg*wired07:55
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Ivanawe cant test lan08:03
Ivanaalkisg its a hp pavilion 1508:04
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nod0n_Hi, I'm trying to create a uefi bootlable installation stick. I'm working with this wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/EFI_USB-Stick/#UEFI-bootfaehiger-USB-Stick-ohne-Hilfsmittel08:17
nod0n_I'm copying the files on the fat formated usb-stick. I got 2 errors that a symbolik link could not be copyed because fat does not support symbolic links.08:18
nasser_hi can i get some help please08:19
nimmsnod0n_: are you creating it from Windows or Linux?08:19
nod0n_nimms: Ubuntu 16.04 live08:19
alkisgnod0n_: why don't you just run `dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdb`?08:20
nod0n_alkisg: because in the wiki it's written to do it so. I have not much knowledge about uefi...08:20
nasser_is there any ubuntu reprsentitive here?08:21
nod0n_alkisg: for an old bios I would use dd...08:21
alkisgnod0n_: if you just dump the iso to a stick, it's already uefi capable08:21
nimmsnod0n_: alkisg is right, also there's a GUI tool called Startup Disk Creator.08:21
guivercnasser_:  if you have a question; ask it, and if someone knows the answer they'll try & answer.08:22
nod0n_so I'll use dd. That's totaly fine.08:22
nod0n_thx.08:22
alkisgnod0n_: also add bs=1M in the end to make it faster08:23
nasser_ok i tried running ubuntu  from a bootable usb but i only get the cmd when i boot from it08:23
alkisglike dd if= of= bs=1M08:23
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alkisgnasser_: what is the "cmd"? What is the actual message that you see?08:24
guivercnasser_:  ubuntu server boots to non-gui; as its faster (uses less memory; far better for servers) so please specify the version you booted.08:25
nasser_i got "there is no medium file " or something like that08:25
alkisgnasser_: you probably made some mistake while creating the usb stick. Which tutorial did you follow?08:26
guivercnasser_: with little detail; I can't help much; but I'd ensure I checked the md5sum/sha*sum after downloading to ensure the download of ISO was correct before writing to USB.    you could have a bad ISO; or a problem occurred with the write (to flash-usb) step.  ie. media-error?08:27
nasser_can i contact you later i just figured out that i have a calss in 5 min08:27
guivercnasser_: no probs.08:27
nasser_sorry i have to go i'll contact you later and give you the info08:28
nasser_thanks08:28
nod0n_alkisg: yea I know ;). thx!08:28
dafhewwelp08:46
nod0n_I'm trying to prepare my SSD to be used with UEFI. When I start gparted I get this error: "The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes." I don't know which devices has this problem... How Can I find this out?08:48
robkI accidently set the wrong compositor in ubuntu mate, how do I reset the compdositor back to default?08:51
dafhewI just installed Ubuntu and it seems to suck08:51
robkcompositor.08:52
robkdafhew: kind of ambiguous thing to say.. I don't like Unity, I always try to avoid it. I install kubuntu or mate.08:52
robkwith all the nice things ubuntu comes with :)08:52
hateballThis channel is for support questions, chitchat goes elsewhere08:52
hateball!ot08:52
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:52
nimmsnod0n_: LC_ALL=C sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda | grep 'Sector size'08:53
dafhewwhat do I do about libboost failing to update?08:53
nod0n_nimms: Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes08:53
nimmsnod0n_: replace `/dev/sda` with something else, check all the drives.08:54
dafhewI find it weird that there is "Software"08:54
cantoonod0n_, always do ignore.  its probably gpt and doesn't realize its a gparted bug.  if using EFI trust you want to keep your copy of your installation media and know it matches the one you want EFI for, usually it works the other way (without it) but i think gpt is being imposed for some reason likely a law suit this the gparted bug08:54
nod0n_I have sda (ssd), sdb (ubuntu live stick), sdc (other stick)08:54
nod0n_nimms: for all drives i get the same output.08:55
cantoonod0n_, do ignore for block size if its what i'm thinking and i think it happens on GPT partitions and likely only happening due to a legal despute08:55
nimmsnod0n_: yeah, then like cantoo said...08:55
nod0n_cantoo: ah ok.08:56
nod0n_Then I'll just ignore it.08:56
cantooEFI isn't useless if you don't keep the installation media.  unless you have to match it to something very exactly for some unknown reason08:56
dafhewwhat's Thunar?08:57
IvanaCan someone help me fix a issue with slow internet on ubuntu08:57
dafhewhow do I get the normal ls and why do I have a terminal 'emulator'?08:57
Ivanamy friend is on the same network and is gettign over 125mbps download and i barely get 1mbps08:57
Ivanaits on a wifi connection, i cant test wired08:57
hateballIvana: what chipset/driver are you using? "lspci -k"08:57
guivercdafhew:  Thunar is a file.manager; standard from memory for XFCE desktop.08:58
Ivanathere is loads of stuff08:58
Ivanawhat am i looking for08:58
dafhewxfce seems to have bugs08:58
dafhewalso, yesterday gnome crashed08:58
AnticomHi all. I'm having a problem with my network on my machine. I dug into journalctl and found "nm_device_get_device_type: assertion 'NM_IS_DEVICE (self)' failed"08:59
dafhewwhy can't I make my screen resolution higher?08:59
marcpvHi. I want to know if it is a good idea to install Lubuntu over the regular Ubuntu with Unity. Will it break the desktop?08:59
IvanaRealtek 8188ee?08:59
nimmscantoo: I think it's related to the fact that nod0n_ has written an image to a USB stick using dd. It doesn't have a correct partition table, and that's why gparted fails I guess.08:59
AnticomThing is, the interfaces look fine but i don't get any connection although my machine can be pinnged08:59
AnticomAny ideas what's going wrong there?08:59
cantooany complete iso would have a partition table if correctly written having used dd09:00
dafhewI actually installed the Studio distro, which as I understand is Ubuntu just packaged with AV stuff (and apparently is using xfce)09:00
cantooor more09:00
Ivanahateball sorry forgot to tag you09:00
AnticomAnd I found "failed to enumerate oFono devices: <...>"09:00
nod0n_nimms: possible to. I'll just continue and see if it works. :)09:00
hateball!who | Ivana09:01
ubottuIvana: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)09:01
AnticomAnd i've just realized i can ping addresses in our local network09:01
Anticombut i can't ping 8.8.8.8 for example09:01
Ivanahateball he has a realtek 8188ee09:01
hateballIvana: I don't have any good experiences with realtek chipsets, so I can't really offer any advice outside of replacing it. But perhaps someone else might know!09:02
cantooin my bios if i install from a UEFI selected which alternatively can boot the same media as not that i leave windows as my operating system if i want to use EFI.  the only thing else to get ubuntu to work for me is a 1024MB or 1024 (my failsafe) EFI partition which a normal install may not do which you can do by booting into the live system first and rebooting.09:02
hateballIvana: also that is the driver I think, not the actual chip. You can paste the entire contents of the command you ran and share with us09:02
hateball!paste | Ivana09:02
ubottuIvana: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.09:02
AnticomAnyone?09:03
cantooin all cases for me i have to ignore partition invalid stuff of hard drive because its GPT09:03
cantooit always works tho09:03
dafhewanother fatal error!09:04
guivercAnticom:  enter "ip route" to show routing table   is their a "default" route?09:06
Anticomguiverc: yes09:06
ubuntu-matewhat's this?09:08
guivercanticom:  then try and ping (icmp echo) your gateway router (default)09:08
hateball!irc | ubuntu-mate09:08
ubottuubuntu-mate: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines09:08
Anticomguiverc: no response from there09:09
guivercanticom:  which could be problem is between you & that router; or that router has been configured to not-reply to icmp-echo requests/pings..  try from another machine on network; if it also doesn't reply its likely your machine/setup.09:10
rsvI flashed a ubuntu 10.04 iso image to a USB disk. when i try to install from the USB disk i get the error LiveUSB aufs mount failed09:11
Anticomguiverc: i can ping other machines in our local network09:11
rsvI used startup disk creator to flash the iso image09:11
hateballrsv: 10.04 is EOL09:11
rsvhateball: i know that. i need some help in the issue i am facing09:12
SourceyHello. I have disabled password for login to my server - Im using a ssh certificate to log in. Now I need to add an sftp user to a certain folder on my server - no shell acess. How to do this in combination with my current setup? Does he need a certificate aswell? How to connect sertificate with his directory on server?09:12
nimmsrsv: if you really want to install 10.04, don't use Startup Disk Creator, use dd.09:13
lucas_aiHow can I use apt-get while it's already installing packages? It slows me down if I cannot download and install other packages while waiting for one to finish. Any ideas?09:13
rsvnimms: do you want me to dd an iso file to the USB disk09:13
nimmsrsv: yes.09:13
Triffid_Hunterlucas_ai: apt's global lock is a thorn in my side too :/09:14
lucas_aihi Triffid_Hunter :)09:14
lucas_aithere has to be a better way09:15
Triffid_Huntergentoo's package manager only locks specific things at specific times, is quite happy to have multiple installs running in parallel *shrug*09:15
joeliolucas_ai: https://github.com/ilikenwf/apt-fast09:17
joelioymmv :)09:17
arthur_dogim not banned anymore? yay!09:19
arthur_dog!ask09:19
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:19
arthur_dog!patience09:19
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/09:19
arthur_dogubottu ey mate09:19
lucas_aijoelio: can you install a package on one terminal and still use apt-fast to install more on other terminals at the same time?09:20
bazhangarthur_dog, investigate with /msg ubottu please09:20
bazhanglucas_ai, no just one instance at a time09:20
joeliolucas_ai: no, because you'll break how package deps are enumerated09:20
arthur_doglucas_ai dpkg is annoying so only one at a time09:21
bazhanglucas_ai, you can install more than one package in that instance, however09:21
arthur_dogtrue09:21
arthur_dogi have found that using other installers like pcman will work, i think09:22
joelioyou have to think about what apt{-get,itude} deos in the background09:22
rsvnimms: that does not work. the PC does not boot from the USB drive and jumps straight to Grub09:22
joelioit's not just a straight decompress of a package09:22
rsvon the already installed ubuntu09:22
alkisgrsv, are you sure that 10.04 supports your hardware? Is it that old?09:25
rsvalkisg: its running 14.04. so its not old09:25
lucas_aijoelio: why can't it download packages without blocking the database? Then block the db, install them, unlock.09:25
guivercrsv:  on some of my machines, I have to hit a Fn key to have it boot a USB.09:25
kanaydohello09:25
rsvguiverc: i did that and selected USB drive on which i dd ubuntu09:25
alkisgrsv, so, *if* 10.04 doesn't have support for that hardware, how do you expect it to work? Maybe a VM would be a better idea? What are you trying to do?09:25
joeliolucas_ai: if you read what apt-file does, it will.. that's why I posted. *installing* the packages is a different issue09:26
rsvand it goes back to the Defaultti menu09:26
rsvalkisg: since i am running 14.04 on my machine. i am sure the same hardware supports 10.04 also09:26
joeliolucas_ai: or do you mean generally in apt09:26
Ben6410.04 is EOL, don't use it09:26
snadgemtp is supposed to just work on 16.04 yeah?09:26
Ben64snadge: yeah09:26
alkisgrsv, in general, linux doesn't know new hardware. The 10.04 kernel doesn't know the hardware that came out in 2012. The 14.04 kernel does know it.09:27
joeliolucas_ai: if that's the case it's probably down to parallel downloads on mirrors considered less friendly to the people who admin them. They swamp resource09:27
snadgeim trying to figure out why it doesn't.. it does under windows09:27
k1l_rsv: you cant run 10.04 anymore09:27
snadgei can use adb in linux.. just for whatever reason, nautilus is not showing my android devices storage09:27
nimmsrsv: maybe 10.04 image is not handled with isohybrid, i don't know. Copy the image file and follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/isohybrid09:27
k1l_rsv: and the kernel is very old on 10.04, you will have a lot of issues with hardware driver support anyway then09:27
lucas_aijoelio: apt blocks the whole installation system while it's downloading a package. That's really bad for productivity. How can I still use apt in another terminal while it's downloading something?09:27
arthur_dogguiverc! hey mate! the solution that you gave me didnt work. pretty sad. also found out that i have nvidia graphics.09:28
rsvk1l_: i know that. i just want to install 10.04 to run an old software that i have09:28
joeliolucas_ai: the system has no idea how fast you can download or what you intend to do in parallel. It's not designed for that.. it can't read-ahead09:28
joelioso it lock as you're condicuing an action09:28
Ben64rsv: don't, it isn't supported09:28
joelioyou *can* prefill the apt package cache09:28
k1l_snadge: make sure you device offers the storage and make sure mtpfs is installed09:28
joeliowhich is what apt-file does09:29
joelioand you can install in parallel, if you wanted09:29
lucas_aijoelio: sure, then what's the proper way to download packages without blocking the whole system?09:29
k1l_rsv: better find other ways to get old software running than using a EOL ubuntu09:29
lucas_aijoelio: all online installation instructions say: sudo apt-get install package, so it'll block. Is there a better way that doesn't block the system while just downloading some package?09:30
joeliolucas_ai: did you try apt-file? There's no inherent support in native apt to do that, it'll lock as it's doing an action. apt-file works outside of apt09:30
joelioas I keep saying :)09:30
joeliosorry apt-fast09:31
joelio(brain engage)09:31
guivercrsv:  running 14.04 on a machine DOES not prove it'll run an older version; later kernels have modules (drivers) for later hardware.   later kernels also drop some rare hardware (to stop them growing out-of-hand).09:31
lucas_aijoelio: I'm asking how I would download & install a package called myPackage without blocking the system. sudo apt-fast myPackage , and then in another terminal can I do: sudo apt-fast secondPackage and it'll work?09:31
joelioyou can download, sure09:32
lucas_aijoelio: I thought you said that wouldn't work at all.09:32
Anticomguiverc: issue was a second GW09:32
joeliobut not install in parallel09:32
joeliosigh09:32
Anticomeverything works fine now again09:32
joelioright, back to work09:32
Anticomcheers09:32
guiverc:) well done Anticom.09:32
lucas_aijoelio: I don't need to install in parallel. Just schedule an install of course.09:32
alkisglucas_ai: apt-get download xxx downloads the file, and then you can move it to /var/cache/apt/archives09:34
nod0n_What partition hex code should I use for a luks encrypted partion which will contain lvm and my OS? (default is 0x83 -> linux filesystem)09:34
nod0n_(gpt)09:34
lucas_aialkisg: is there any way to schedule the file for install automatically after it's downloaded?09:34
lucas_aialkisg: also, are packages just a single file with the same name?09:35
alkisglucas_ai: sure, apt-get download; mv xxx; apt-get install xxx. It's 3 commands.09:35
alkisglucas_ai: try apt-get download htop and see for yourself09:35
lucas_aialkisg: i'll try to make a script.09:35
snadgelooks like im bitten by #131455609:36
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lucas_aialkisg: the file downloaded has a different name than the package I told apt-get to install. Any ideas how to get the actual file name?09:37
lucas_aisudo apt download htop saves this file: htop_2.0.1-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb09:37
alkisglucas_ai: ls htop*.deb09:37
lucas_aialkisg: you think it'll always start with the short package name?09:37
alkisgYou don't really need the file name09:37
alkisgStart in an empty folder09:38
lucas_aitrying to make a script so that I can automate this09:38
alkisgmove everything09:38
lucas_aioh right!09:38
alkisgapt-get install the package names09:38
alkisgYou don't need the file names09:38
alkisgIf you're going to write a script, before apt-get install, put a loop to test when the apt lock is not there09:39
aaranHi I am studying the LPIC-1 exam and I have a question regarding shared libraries, when you use #ldconfig -n /librarylocation/  what file does it write this new location to?09:39
k1l_aaran: better ask #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux for that09:40
lucas_aialkisg: yeah! also a loop to check when a file is downloaded09:40
aaranok09:40
lucas_aialkisg: you don't know of any such existing script, do you?09:40
idokoalso if your on a recent version, try using apt instead of apt-get09:40
aarantried in #linux they are busy talking about this laptop which has been locked to windows10 and will not allow linux installs easily09:40
nindustriesHi, so I installed ubuntu in virtualbox. Starting firefox I see compiz taking 120% CPU. I don't think this is normal?09:40
aaranI will try in the off-topic channel09:41
bergelmirwhat could be the reason, if `apt-key list` returns a list of 5 keys, but `apt-get update` proccesses only 4 keys?09:50
brunch875I just crafter my own .deb and installed it under /usr/local. apt search <package> does find it, but I didn't expect it to... am I doing something bad?09:55
brunch875apt remove <package> states 'not found'09:55
bazhangdid you use checkinstall or not09:56
punkoivan"search"  - search in repo09:56
brunch875no, I just made my own .deb and installed it by hand with dpkg09:56
bazhangthats why09:56
brunch875I'm a bit unsure if this is the way to go09:56
brunch875should I just copy the files manually to /usr/local?09:57
bazhang!checkinstall09:57
ubottucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!09:57
bazhangcheck the above please09:57
brunch875but that will be installed with all the other apt-gotten programs, right?09:57
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brunch875I'm unsure if that's what I want to do09:58
bazhangbrunch875, did you want to be able to apt-get remove it or not09:58
brunch875not really... what I want to do is make it clean and standardized09:58
brunch875I'm not even sure if I should be using dpkg at all09:59
bazhangthen use checkinstall, as I suggested brunch87509:59
snadgefollow up to my mtp issue.. if i killed nautilus, then a dialog pops up on my phone.. allow external mtp device access, press allow.. then it works :|09:59
snadgei should probably contribute that advice to that bug09:59
brunch875the thing is I want to build vim from source and then put it in /usr/local, so that it doesn't touch the vim version uploaded in the repos09:59
koichiroseHello, I'm having trouble extending a partition on a VMware virtualized machine. I usually created a new logical partition with fdisk, then extended the existing partition. some outputs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23210776/ can somebody help me out?09:59
brunch875I don't know what checkinstall does, but I suspect it installs the program with all other programs gotten with apt. I want to learn above all10:00
mcphailbrunch875: I do that all the time, and just install the files to the /usr/local prefix. IMHO, .debs shouldn't be used for /usr/local prefix, but that's my personal preference10:01
lucas_aialksig, actually this is quite useless because apt-get will recognize there are missing dependencies for this package and will start to download those as well10:01
brunch875mcphail: I thought so too... but then I wondered if it would be a bit messy keeping track of files installed by hand10:01
lucas_aiexit10:01
brunch875as in... what to uninstall when uninstalling a program?10:02
mcphailbrunch875: it is messy, but it is also messy having the package manager looking after some things (but not others) in /usr/local10:02
brunch875I guess that's the answer I needed, thanks! ☺10:02
mcphailbrunch875: the alternative is to install to /opt, and set your $PATH accordingly10:02
brunch875I'll just not use dpkg for this10:03
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BigLionhello10:11
nea1hi, i've got a bricked system ... one of the grub packages is brocken, so it can't call it's binarys ... now if i try to reinstall the packages it first wants to remove old kernels, which of failes => reinstall isn't done >.<10:11
nea1how can i fix this?10:12
nea1how do i tell apt to ignore its remove queue10:12
EriC^^nea1: upload some error logs10:12
nea1the system won't boot any longer i just bootet a different iso so that i can try and fix this in a chroot10:13
EriC^^did you mount the virtual fs?10:13
nea1virtual fs? /proc etc is mounted10:14
EriC^^upload the errors you're getting so we can have an idea of what's going on10:15
EriC^^command | nc termbin.com 999910:15
nea1http://termbin.com/q49n10:15
nea1http://termbin.com/n447n10:16
lucas_aiIf I have made scripts for ubuntu, how can I upload my packages to the ubuntu repositories?10:16
nea1oh, std err10:16
nea1http://termbin.com/dy3410:16
bazhangppa lucas_ai10:17
bazhang!ppa | lucas_ai10:17
ubottulucas_ai: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge10:17
k1l_nea1: reinstall the bootloader to mbr?10:17
lucas_aibazhang: everything in the ubuntu repositories is officially supported by Canonical?10:18
bazhanglucas_ai, only a very select few can add packages to the official ubuntu repos10:18
EriC^^nea1: try apt-get install --reinstall grub2-common grub-common grub-efi-amd64{,-bin,-signed}10:18
mcphaillucas_ai: no. Some things are supported by the community10:18
nea1EriC^^: that gives me an error because it first tries to remove some old kernels10:19
EriC^^nea1: paste the error10:19
lucas_aican I upload to a private PPA for free or do I need a private server?10:19
EriC^^lucas_ai: launchpad.net10:19
EriC^^it's not private though, unless there's some option for that10:20
lucas_aibazaar is the source management system for PPAs and packages? can't use git?10:20
nea1EriC^^: i reinstalled grub2-common from /var/cache via dpkg, seams now like it is working10:21
lucas_aibtw that website seems really hard to use.10:21
IamTryingIn Ubuntu, which software is available to edit GIF file? (cant use GIMP)10:21
lucas_aibut I'll try it. Thanks!10:21
EriC^^nea1: were you converting an install from mbr to efi?10:22
bazhangIamTrying, for which operation10:22
* EriC^^ just curious10:22
nea1EriC^^: no my ssh connection got killed while running an upgrade10:22
boxrick1I am currently trying to build a https://github.com/cobbler/cobbler/tree/master/debian deb package, it make and make installs just fine. However running "fakeroot debian/rules binary" generates the error: http://pastebin.com/pBTh70Lm This is referenced inside cobbler.install10:23
IamTryingbazhang: there is one GIF file which has 500 frames. I need to delete several frames to make it 30 frame. Like this GIF i have 40 of them so i need a quick tool10:23
boxrick1Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction, do I need to change this to sites.enabled or create a subfolder somewhere or simply remove that line?10:23
EriC^^nea1: oh10:24
IamTryingbazhang: GIMP for some reason not working i cant see the layers preview enlarged picture10:24
EriC^^nea1: you do know of screen/tmux of course right?10:24
ring3_hi guys10:25
ring3_the windows boot manager didn't recognize the ubuntu uefi :/10:26
EriC^^ring3_: fresh install?10:26
ring3_I disabled the hibernation, and addd an entry on the windows bootmanager10:26
ring3_iso on usb10:26
ring3_my window boot manager now has an entry to usb boot/uefi.img10:27
EriC^^ring3_: you haven't installed yet you mean?10:27
ring3_yep10:27
ring3_is a new laptop10:27
ring3_with win1010:27
EriC^^you don't need to add anything to the windows boot manager, the bios can boot it directly10:27
EriC^^which laptop model?10:27
ring3_I tried all the bios options10:27
ring3_is a acer one10:27
ring3_notebook10:28
EriC^^ring3_: try setting the admin password for the bios10:28
EriC^^and try some run-time boot options menu and choose uefi usb, or the "trust" option in the bios in case it comes in handy10:28
ring3_the bios recognize the uefi usb10:28
ring3_I tried kali 32 and 6410:29
MoL0ToVhi i have a problem with a usb stick. i created a ubuntu install disc with usb-creator-gtk . after if i connect the usb stick the partitions are auto-mounted all read only. how to mount rw?10:29
MoL0ToVthis is the fdisk -l output:10:29
ring3_mount -o remount10:29
ring3_mount -o remount,rw10:30
EriC^^ring3_: what happens if you choose uefi usb in the bios?10:30
EriC^^in the boot menu i mean10:30
ring3_didn't boot10:30
EriC^^did you disable secureboot?10:30
ring3_and if I choose the usb with F12 also didnt boot10:30
ring3_yep, i tried to disable the secure boot10:30
EriC^^ring3_: try setting an admin password10:31
EriC^^who knows10:31
ring3_I think my bios didn't have the admin option10:31
ring3_secure boot disabled but  standard or custom?10:32
MoL0ToVring3_, i want to automount rw, not by hand typing every time mount -o remount10:35
MoL0ToVhowto?10:35
MoL0ToVi think that i must modify partitions via fdisk... or no?10:35
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dafhewwhy the fuck does Ubuntu keep turning my monitor off? that's absolutely retarded10:36
bazhangdafhew, no cursing here10:37
k1l_dafhew: that language is not helping anyone.10:37
EriC^^MoL0ToV: what does /etc/fstab have?10:37
dafhewthat response was also not helpful10:37
k1l_!ask | dafhew10:38
ubottudafhew: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:38
MoL0ToV/etc/fstab does'nt contain usb stick, is automounted by system when i connect to pc10:38
k1l_dafhew: more details would be helpfull.10:38
MoL0ToVEriC^^, /etc/fstab does'nt contain usb stick, is automounted by system when i connect to pc10:38
jeskthis blog post says that ubuntu 16.04 doesnt work well with its default gnome environment and xrdp10:40
jeskoops EPASTE10:40
brunch875Is there a convention for user-defined keyboard shortcuts?10:40
jeskI installed xorg on a new ubuntu server10:40
jeskwhen trying to start it via startx or via xrdp I get:10:40
jesk(EE) parse_vt_settings: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory)10:41
jeskany idea?10:41
k1l_jesk: dont use startx on ubuntu. start the lightdm (or another dm)10:41
jeskhm10:42
jeskwill try10:42
jeskwanted to avoid lightdm10:42
jesklightdm installs *TONS* of dependencies10:44
k1l_jesk: well, you want a xorg desktop on a server :)10:44
joeliojesk: what about with no-reccommends?10:44
EriC^^MoL0ToV: it's being mounted ro?10:44
jeskkll, yeah but wanted a lightweight one10:45
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jesknot I guess I have all the gnome bloat10:45
tech9newhois tech9ne10:45
jesks,not,now,10:45
joeliojesk: gnome nothign to do with lightdm10:45
joeliothat's gdm10:45
joeliojesk: did you try with --no-install-recommends ?10:47
jesklightdm has alone 20 dependencies with packages with name gnome in it10:48
joeliojesk: no, it doesn't - apt-cache depends lightdm10:49
[_]`http://fossboss.com/2016/09/21/windows-10-signature-edition-blocks-installing-linux/ seems kinda lame10:49
joeliosudo apt-get install lightdm xserver-xorg --no-install-recommends10:49
joeliohandful of packages10:49
jeskwho uses "--no-install-recommends"? :)10:50
joeliopeople who want minimal systems10:50
jeskdidnt know about it10:51
jeskfeelsbadman10:51
joelioknow you do :)10:51
joelio*now10:51
jeskwhy isnt that the default10:51
jeskfeels awkward10:51
joeliobecause it can be too minimal for some, I guess10:51
joeliouse it a lot personally, good for making images for export10:51
joelioyou can set it as a global apt paramater too10:52
joeliosome packages that rely on other dependencies may have been built without no-recommends sometimes.. and they might miss upstream packages10:53
joelioso like anything, test in isolation (vm, lxc, whatever)10:53
MoL0ToVsomeone can help me with a read only automounted usb stick? if i remount read only i can write to, but i want that is automounted rw not readonly. howto?10:56
MoL0ToVsomeone can help me with a read only automounted usb stick? if i remount rw i can write to, but i want that is automounted rw not readonly. howto?10:56
doilerdindo10:56
doilerdppc10:57
k1l_MoL0ToV: look at dmesg why that usb gets mounted ro in the first place10:57
nea1EriC^^: seams like everything is working now - and yes ... tmux is now installed10:58
nea1and thanks :)10:58
MoL0ToVk1l_, in dmesg there is nothing says readonly10:59
jeskstill no success with X remotely11:01
jeskany hints appreciated11:02
jesk(X forwarding does work)11:02
jeskbut need complete X session, or just xrdp11:02
nod0n_Hi, I tried to install Ubuntu 16.04 with the mini.iso image. How I tried: GPT partitioning table: 1. EFI partition 200MB, 2. /boot ext2 1GB, 3. crypt 250GB { lvm: /root ext4, /home ext4, /usr ext4, /var ext4, /opt ext4, /srv ext4, /tmp ext4, swap }11:03
crazyadmmine works11:03
crazyadmwith gdm11:03
crazyadmwith xmanager in windows11:03
jeskany hints what to check?11:05
nod0n_When I do the same with a msdos partition table, and installing grub2 in the SSDs MBR it works. When I was prompted where to install grub2, I did enter the EFI partition manualy.11:05
qtax^won ubuntu 16.04, when using git LFS, it tries to look up the LFS host on 127.0.1.1:53, which seems to be a local dnsmasq, but it is not set as a DNS server on the interfaces (afaics). is it default that dnsmasq runs on ubuntu now or is this something else?11:05
nindustriesHi, so I installed ubuntu in virtualbox. Starting firefox I see compiz taking 120% CPU. I don't think this is normal?11:05
qtax^w(tries and fails for some reason also, which is odd)11:05
nod0n_The installer ends with no error. After the reboot (installation device removed) EFI does not load grub2, even if I select the SSD in the boot menu.11:06
nod0n_What could I be doing wrong?11:07
EriC^^nod0n_: sometimes the bios are hardcoded to boot just the windows efi11:07
EriC^^nod0n_: other times you can "trust" the ubuntu efi file from the bios, you might need to set the admin password to get that option first11:08
joeliojesk: vnc or rdp?11:08
EriC^^in the first case you can #1 try to disable the windows efi entry using efibootmgr, or #2 switch the efi files of ubuntu and windows to trick the bios into booting ubuntu, as far as i know11:08
jeskjoelio: rdp11:09
jeskjoelio: without gnome desktop, awesome as window manager11:09
jeskjoelio: as far as I know gnome3/unity has problems with rdp, but thats ok was I just want to use awesome-wm11:09
joeliojesk: which version of ubuntu11:09
jesk16.04.111:09
jeskjust installed11:09
jeskwithout anything on it yet11:10
nod0n_EriC^^: ah ok. I'll try to trust the Ubuntu efi file. If it does not work, How can I install Ubuntu with a GPT parition table with bios boot?11:10
joelioand are you wedded to rdp? vnc is more native tbh11:10
joeliojesk: ^11:10
jeskserver distribution, installed xorg11:10
jeskyeah Iam wedded to it11:10
jeskcolleagues need rdp11:10
joeliohrm, ok, 14.04 has http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/misc/lightdm-remote-session-freerdp but can't see xenial - one mo11:11
EriC^^nod0n_: you need to create a 1mb bios-boot partition and install grub-pc package11:11
EriC^^nod0n_: it has the hexcode ef0211:12
nod0n_EriC^^: ok. Is there an wiki article about how to install Ubuntu with GPT and BIOS?11:12
joeliojesk: oh actually rdp built in now I think to lightdm.. /me checks11:12
joeliojesk: https://github.com/scarygliders/X11RDP-o-Matic11:14
nod0n_I'll try with the bios-boot partition. I'll be back later if it does not work.11:14
jeskjoelio: you think I should ditch ubuntu xrdp package against that?11:15
joeliojust throwing it out there, I don't use rdp :)11:15
veterHello, i have 2 HDD on my laptop. 1st for the Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and 2nd i want to use for music, videos, OS backups etc. But i have permission for make changes there. http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1474456304.png How to use 2nd HDD like my home dir?11:16
veter*have not11:16
punkoivanveter, fstab?11:16
joeliojesk: otherwise look at x2go11:17
joelioor install full ubuntu and set remote desktop in there.. choice is yours :)11:18
jeskso much magic11:18
sonu_nkhi i wana install graphics driver in ubuntu 14 of dell monitor.. can you guide me to do this ?11:18
akiksonu_nk: there are no monitor drivers in ubuntu11:19
veterpunkoivan, http://pastebin.com/PFiNGUq811:19
akiksonu_nk: the problem is usually that you need to fix the graphics adapter to work11:20
sonu_nk00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)11:20
sonu_nkakik:11:20
sonu_nk00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)11:20
EriC^^veter: how are you mounting the 2nd hdd?11:20
akiksonu_nk: sudo lshw -c video <- that should tell you which graphics module is in use11:20
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terriblehey i install a software from the source code but now i want to remove it but i dont find it in synaptic how can i remove those software install it from the source code?11:21
jeskfreaks me out11:21
veterEriC^^, windows 10 was here, i format 2nd HDD in EXT411:21
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sonu_nkakik: http://pastebin.com/PfPz1jN811:22
akiksonu_nk: what kind of picture do you get on your display? is it with too low resolution?11:22
sonu_nkakik: yes..11:23
akiksonu_nk: have you tried to adjust it in system settings?11:23
EriC^^veter: ok, type "ls /media/$USER"11:23
sonu_nkand in setting Unkown Display akik11:23
akiksonu_nk: by default it could be lower than the native resolution your display supports11:23
veterEriC^^:  HDD11:24
terriblehey i install a software from the source code but now i want to remove it but i dont find it in synaptic how can i remove those software install it from the source code?11:25
sonu_nkwhen i am installing intel-graphics-update-tool_2.0.2_amd64.deb in ubuntu 14 , it is giving me error dependency is not satisfiable libgtk-3-0(>=3.16.2)11:25
EriC^^veter: ok, try "sudo ls -la /media/$USER/hdd"11:28
EriC^^if you're sure that's the hdd you want to use for media and stuff then type sudo chown $USER: -R /media/$USER/hdd11:28
EriC^^lsblk will show you info about what's mounted and the size11:29
sonu_nk when i am installing intel-graphics-update-tool_2.0.2_amd64.deb in ubuntu 14 , it is giving me error dependency is not satisfiable libgtk-3-0(>=3.16.2)11:30
veterEriC^^: http://pastebin.com/U3dL9ja311:30
EriC^^veter: ok see above11:31
akiksonu_nk: have you tried to adjust the screen resolution in system settings?11:32
sonu_nkakik: yes..11:32
sonu_nkalso  when i am installing intel-graphics-update-tool_2.0.2_amd64.deb in ubuntu 14 , it is giving me error dependency is not satisfiable libgtk-3-0(>=3.16.2)11:32
akik!info intel-graphics-update-tool trusty11:32
ubottuPackage intel-graphics-update-tool does not exist in trusty11:32
akikthere's no intel-graphics-update-tool in 14.0411:33
akikand usually you don't need that with the intel driver11:33
jeskwill try now xfce11:34
sonu_nkakik: my screen font resolution is blur and its Dell monitor11:34
jeski cant believe that xrdp is not easily be done without installing the whole gnome unity bload desktop11:34
sonu_nkakik: i am restarting my system coming back here..11:35
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veterEriC^^: looks like start working without root priveleges http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1474457733.png , thank you.11:37
NeoFrontierHi, I am on Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS. I have a great signal to a pppoe wifi point ( using a yagi and exernal wifi adapter).11:38
NeoFrontierThe technician gave me a temporary username and password to see if I can successfully connect to their point. They usually install their own equipment but he said if I manage with mine thats fine they just don't support it.11:38
Guest85456can any one help me to understand why top and systemmonitor are showing different statistics of ram in ubuntu 16.0411:38
EriC^^veter: did you run the chown command?11:39
NeoFrontierThe access point appears in network manager as one of those without the little lock. How do I configure this kind of wifi pppoe connection on Ubuntu ?11:39
veterEriC^^: yes, make the both command11:39
EriC^^veter: ok11:40
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jeskGOT IT11:51
jeskafter 1 hour of googling one hint11:51
jesk/etc/xrdp/startwm.sh needs to know about your WM11:52
jesksourcing Xsession is not enough11:52
lkeijserhi, I need to mirror an ubuntu repository, including all versions for the packages. I have a list of packages, so I don't need to mirror _all_ packages. What tool can I best use for this?11:54
jesklol but xrdp crashs all the time11:55
jeskomg11:55
jeskuninstall ubuntu11:55
ikonialkeijser: can apt-mirror use exclusions, I think it can, or you could just rsync with an exclude or include list11:58
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lkeijserikonia, ah, perhaps rsync is the way to go since I only have about 40 packages that I need to have all versions for12:00
ikonialkeijser: so just use --include on those 40 packages and it will auto exclude the rest12:02
sonu_nkhi when i doing sudo apt-get update it is stuck on 0% [Connecting to in.archive.ubuntu.com12:10
ikoniasonu_nk: so can you reach that host12:11
ikoniaif you can't - can you reach any host12:11
sonu_nkikonia: but i can access internet and google.. Wht to do now ?12:11
punkoivandid you edit sources.list?12:12
sonu_nkpunkoivan: no12:12
maxcell_my mouse is way to slow without acceleration, how can i increase the sensitivity? (not accel)12:13
punkoivanmaxcell, use xinput12:13
punkoivansonu_nk, may be some temp trouble with repos?12:14
sonu_nkpunkoivan: sorry i am not expert.. i think i need to disable ipv612:14
maxcell_punkoivan, already did but, it doesnt show the "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" option https://paste.kde.org/pixkuj09s12:15
BluesKajHiyas all12:15
IceCoolTeaHello12:15
IceCoolTeais there a way to install/manage KVM on ubuntu server 16.04 through ssh?12:16
ikoniaIceCoolTea: virsh12:20
IceCoolTea@ikonia thanks ill check it out12:29
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sigihi, i added a second ip address to my interface and because somewhere it says 'you are no longer adding a second ip by doing eth0:2' i don't have a second interface and when i try to forward the traffic with iptables rule and the --dst parameter, it doesn't work. tcpdump shows me that those two domains receive with different dst ips :(12:54
Globalirchello guys i have some problem with my ubuntu i can't install  ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-multiarch i have ubuntu 12.0412:55
k1l_Globalirc: can you show the output of "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch"13:00
k1l_Globalirc: on paste.ubuntu.com please13:00
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lkeijserhi, I wanted to download libmysqlclient18 version 5.5.50 but it's no longer available. Only future and previous versions. Why is that?13:12
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RavinduLHi! I downloaded a .tar.xz archive from nodejs.org, how would I install it on Ubuntu 15.10?13:16
pdilyardHas anyone achieved a true Mac OSX keyboard layout in Ubuntu? All I've seen is people swapping Cmd and Ctrl keys, but this is not the true behavior of OSX (if you do this, Cmd+C becomes ^C in a terminal, when it should still copy). The behavior I'm looking for is: Super+C: Copy, Super+V: Paste, Super+Tab: Switch windows, Super+T: New tab, Super+W: Close tab, etc.13:18
pdilyardBut Ctrl+C should still send ^C in a terminal13:18
IceCoolTeathe basic terminal does that, its not because of the layout13:19
PiciRavinduL: are you aware that 15.10 has reached its end of life?13:19
pdilyardIceCoolTea: So if I were to make Super act as Ctrl, I would actually get the desired behavior?13:20
k1l_RavinduL: first plan to upgrade to 16.04. 15.10 is dead and is an security issue now since it doesnt get any security fixes anymore13:21
RavinduLPici, k1l_ I shall upgrade (y)13:21
IceCoolTeasorry, i wasnt clear, ^C happens with ctrl+c on default terminal, no matter if its ctrl or Super13:21
RavinduLbut how would I install a .tar.xz ?13:22
RavinduLn00b here13:22
k1l_RavinduL: extract the package and look inside. there is a readme13:22
pdilyardIceCoolTea: correct, but I want ^C to happen when I press Ctrl+C, and Copy to happen when I press Super+C...this gets messed up if you just swap Ctrl and Super13:22
k1l_RavinduL: but that is not neccesarry, since 16.04 ships a newer version than 15.10 in the ubuntu repos13:23
RavinduLk1l_, the readme doesn't say how to install it :/13:24
Pici!info nodejs13:24
ubottunodejs (source: nodejs): evented I/O for V8 javascript. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.2.6~dfsg-1ubuntu4.1 (xenial), package size 3029 kB, installed size 12250 kB13:24
IceCoolTeapdilyard: ah i see, no clue about that sorry13:25
pdilyardno worries13:25
RavinduLit does have folders called bin, include, lib and share, so I'm assuming that you have to extract it to somewhere that that's included into the PATH variable?13:25
k1l_RavinduL: that depends heavily on what is inside that tar.gz. please look at the nodejs documentation for what you downloaded there13:25
RavinduL*in the PATH variable13:25
PiciRavinduL: Are you downloading nodejs itself?13:25
boern_hello! i have a problem with ubuntu 16.04 and hdmi audio.. i have my boxes plugged into my display which is connected via hdmi to my pc. the audio is working, but when i dont listen to music there is always that sound that the audio plugins on and off.. and when i want to listen to music again, it takes a few seconds to turn on again.. can i fix this somehow?13:26
SourceyHow to combine sftp users with authorized_keys. I'm creating a .ssh folder in the users home directory and adding the public key to the auth keys file. This works fine, but when I put the user in the correct group for chrootDirectory it doesnt work anymore13:26
RavinduLPici, I downloaded v4.5.0 LTS from https://nodejs.org/en/13:26
k1l_RavinduL: sometimes projects ship sourcecode which needs to be compiled, some do ship binaries etc.13:26
RavinduLhttps://nodejs.org/dist/v4.5.0/node-v4.5.0-linux-x64.tar.xz13:26
k1l_RavinduL: so i strongly suggest you upgrade to 16.04 first and then use the nodejs from ubuntu13:26
RavinduLk1l_, There's no makefile13:26
Globalirck1l_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23211398/13:27
PiciRavinduL: Personally, I'd opt to use packages via the nodejs package repository: https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/#debian-and-ubuntu-based-linux-distributions13:28
PiciRavinduL: that ensures that you get updates as nodejs makes them available13:28
Pici(Theres no point in getting a nodejs LTS if you can't get updates for it)13:29
k1l_Globalirc: is that a wubi install?13:29
RavinduLPici, Thanks :)13:29
RavinduLPici, k1l_ I'm upgrading to 16.04 right now :)13:29
PiciRavinduL: great! :)13:29
k1l_Globalirc: try "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ia32-libs"13:30
Globalirck1l_ok13:30
Globalirck1l_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23211411/13:31
Globalircits a ovh vps hosting13:32
formaif i run a traceroute to an ip outside my network, i get packetdrops on a specific hop, I have 90% packetloss, so im wondering what that could mean? internet seems to be working fine, so it does not seem to be related to my connection13:32
formawhat kind of tools are there which could help me figure out what is happening? i tried traceroute and tcptraceroute, both show the same issue13:33
forma I thought it was ICMP blocking but i dont believe its that anymore. but I still dont know what it is :) very curious if somebody could chip in13:33
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ilmaisinarrgh13:36
ilmaisinwhy is the "calendar" app so buggy?13:36
ilmaisindo they test these things at all?13:36
ilmaisinnow the settings menu even hide the local calendars13:37
ilmaisinjust wonder how anyone can dare to put one's name on this kind of crap13:37
boern_http://pastebin.com/jBw6eNdM how can i fix that? i want to install newer nvidia driver13:38
knight__hello everyone13:39
ilmaisinboern_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65856/how-does-one-exit-the-x-server13:40
boern_seriously.. why is everything so complicated in linux ;(13:41
boern_why isnt it possible to just install a driver with doing 100 other things..13:41
ilmaisinboern_: don't use linux then13:41
ilmaisinboern_: linux isn't just not designed for external gpu drivers13:42
boern_i like linux, but its really not user friendly..13:42
ilmaisinboern_: it is when you use it as supposed13:42
AlexUnderwhat distribution do you have?13:42
k1l_Globalirc: what is the output of "ls /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/"?13:43
boern_ubuntu 16.0413:43
ztaneboern_: please google linus nvidia, and watch the video :D13:43
k1l_boern_: what are you trying to do at all?13:44
joelioboern_: which was the original nvidia driver (in ubuntu you used) there are generally newer ones available13:44
boern_ilmaisin: but you cant tell me, that using the terminal for everything is efficient..13:44
Globalirck1l_ ls /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/13:44
Globalircmultiarch13:44
joelioboern_: if you know what you're doing in the terminal, it's a lot quicker than any gui13:44
ztaneboern_: that error comes from nvidia's installer13:44
k1l_Globalirc: ok, then try :      sudo sh -c "echo 'foreign-architecture i386' > /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch"13:44
Globalirck1l_and now ?13:45
ilmaisinboern_: thinking how complicated it is to develop and provide linux kernel drivers, nvidia has done absolutely wonderful job13:46
k1l_Globalirc: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ia32-libs"13:46
Fuchsboern_: don't install the nvidia driver by hand13:46
Fuchsboern_: if you really really _need_ the new version (not just want it), at least use a ppa that does dkms right, else it will break after every kernel update13:47
Globalirck1l_  sudo sh -c "echo 'foreign-architecture i386' > /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch13:47
Globalirc> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ia32-libs13:47
Globalirc nonething13:47
Fuchsboern_: otherwise you can just use the driver manager, which is very easy and works fine.13:47
ilmaisinboern_: the "proper" way would be to publish the documentation that would allow linux kernel developers to build fully capable free-software drivers, but there is fear that it would help nvidia's competitors as well13:47
boern_the main problem is, that my hdmi audio is not working so well.. when i listen to music its fine, but when i stop the boxes sound like they "turn off" and then when i want i listen again it takes few seconds13:47
Globalircafter i hit CTRL+C i can apt-get13:47
k1l_Globalirc: wait, you missed a " at the first command13:48
Globalircahh13:48
Globalircok13:49
boern_but the thing is.. if linux wants to be more popular and get more attention on the market it has to work for people who are not so extreme experts .. i think android did it right13:49
k1l_Globalirc: the last " is part of the command not from me: sudo sh -c "echo 'foreign-architecture i386' > /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch"13:49
knight__has anyone here built their own distro from scratch?13:49
nicomachusknight__: that's not really on topic here.13:49
boern_there are 1000 ubuntu / debian forks and all suffer from the same issues... WHY can there just be one distro that acutally works13:50
k1l_boern_: its nvidia making the issue here. so your advice is based on false facts. so please tell us the requested details if you want help. if you want to rant this is the wrong channel13:50
nicomachusboern_: what issue are you having now?13:50
joelioboern_: happy to accept your patches13:50
boern_my hdmi audio is not working so well.. when i listen to music its fine, but when i stop the boxes sound like they "turn off" and then when i want i listen again it takes few seconds13:50
boern_thats my main problem13:50
k1l_knight__: ##linux would be the proper channel13:50
knight__ok sorry i was jw13:50
nicomachusboern_: going to need more details.13:51
k1l_boern_: what driver are you using exactly?13:51
Globalircok i do correct now and i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23211473/13:51
boern_the nvidia driver from "additional drivers"13:51
boern_but its older than the one on the website13:51
joeliothere are newer ones, ubuntu based ones, you know13:51
joelionvidia-current puts on a version with more compatibility13:51
boern_i mean i can try the open source driver, but in many cases its worse13:52
k1l_Globalirc: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch13:52
joelioit uses dkms, a module system too, which makes upgrades less fragile13:52
joelio(generally)13:52
k1l_boern_: what exact driver? "the blue car" is not the proper answer on what car you drive exactly.13:52
Globalirck1l_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23211486/13:53
boern_one sec13:53
joelionvidia-304 vs nvidia-361 - as one small example13:53
boern_http://s13.postimg.org/i4j6kc4k7/Screenshot_from_2016_09_21_15_53_05.png13:53
boern_but on the website i can get 367.4413:54
k1l_this PPA ships 370 https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=xenial13:54
boern_okay thank you i will try it brb13:56
k1l_Globalirc: try a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"13:57
Globalirck1l_ this command will upgrade the version of ubuntu ?13:57
k1l_Globalirc: no.13:57
Globalirck13:57
k1l_it will stay on 12.0413:57
Globalircok thanks:D13:57
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boern_its still not working but i have these drivers: http://s9.postimg.org/8jkj4mpz3/Screenshot_from_2016_09_21_16_01_49.png14:02
boern_the thing is, i have my boxes plugged into my display (benq) which is connected via HDMI to my pc14:03
Southern_Gentlemboern_, and what is your video card ?14:03
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boern_GTX 97014:03
Globalirck1l_ done now i do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ia32-libs = same result, sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch = same result14:03
k1l_boern_: did you relogin?14:03
Southern_Gentlemso yes that should be the driver for that card14:03
boern_i did reboot14:03
k1l_boern_: so you are not sure if the delay is done by the benq monitor?14:04
boern_i have BenQ GL2760H ! BUT on windows and chromeOS(!) it makes no problems14:04
joelioit's probably probing for EDID14:05
boern_i put my boxes to the display that i can change to my chrombook easier if i want14:05
boern_that problems are just on ubuntu14:05
joelioboern_: so it's just when you come to play there's a gap while the hdmi audio kicks in?14:07
joeliobut it does kick in? if so how long is the gap14:07
boern_joelio: when i stop listen to music there is a weird sound after few seconds. when i want to listen again it takes a few seconds, the weird sound appears again and then it plays14:08
joeliothat could be pulseaudio, not nvidia specifically (or a combo of both)14:09
boern_so what should i do? :S14:09
boern_sorry i am bit noobie..14:09
joelioin /etc/pulse/default.pa or ~/.config/pulse/default.pa14:09
joeliotry and hash out14:09
joelioload-module module-suspend-on-idle14:10
k1l_Globalirc: 12.04 was not really made for multiarch. i dont know how to solve that issue. last try would be a "sudo apt-get install -f"14:10
joelioboern_: but it could be a few things tbh14:10
joelioboern_: then restart pulseaudio or the system14:10
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Globalirck1l_ 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. :D ok thanks for help and your time14:12
boern_ok i tried it and reboot now14:13
nourahi14:15
boern_wow i think that really worked omg thx14:15
dafhewwhy isn't there a scroll bar in Software?14:16
joelioboern_: anytime pal14:16
nourahow are u14:16
nourahow can help me14:16
boern_but why does that load-module module-suspend-on-idle even exists14:16
dafhewhow do I make Ubuntu not shut down monitor?14:16
nicomachusnoura: what do you need help with?14:16
joelioboern_: to save battery life on laptops I guess14:16
nicomachusdafhew: can you be more specifc?14:16
dafhewno14:16
djdexterq14:16
nouraiam dont knwo us backbox14:17
DArqueBishop!backbox14:17
ubottuBackbox Linux is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu and is thus not supported in #ubuntu. Please use #backbox on irc.autistici.org or https://forum.backbox.org/ for help with it.14:17
boern_okay.. anyways thank you :314:17
nouraare u have cors  or book14:18
RavinduLHi! I'm dual booting Ubuntu and Windows 10. Will upgrading from 15.10 to 16.04 'mess up my dual boot'?14:20
RavinduL(Upgrading using the inbuilt 'Software Updater')14:21
iithalo14:21
nicomachusRavinduL: no, but 15.10 is EOL so you'll have to follow the EOL instructions. Cannot use 'Software Updater'14:21
nicomachus!EOL | RavinduL14:21
ubottuRavinduL: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades14:21
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Guest37740why icon network hide? ubuntu mate14:22
RavinduLnicomachus, thanks14:24
RavinduL\exit14:24
mustmodifywhat's the stupid command to look for dns records?14:29
mustmodifyit's not yank...14:29
mustmodifypulll....14:29
mustmodifysomething like that14:29
joeliomustmodify: dig?14:31
mustmodifyding! thanks.14:31
joeliono, dig :D14:31
mustmodify1000 points to joelio14:32
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jeskI added fedora repositories with worse priority14:37
jeskargh echan14:38
jj-jjhow to check if cron job is running?14:43
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joeliojj-jj: do you mean if it's running now, or just set to run?14:46
pkennedyjj-jj: What about this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/149504/how-can-i-tell-if-my-hourly-cron-job-has-run14:46
jj-jjif its running now i meant14:47
joeliojj-jj: ps auxww | grep 'name of command' ?14:49
joelioor something like that14:49
jj-jjname of command being cron?14:49
Picijj-jj: no, the command you told cron to run14:51
jj-jj15 * * * * php /var/www/itom/artisan schedule:run> /dev/null 2>&114:52
jj-jjthats the command in my crontab -e14:52
jj-jjthat means it should run every 15 minutes yes?14:53
joeliono14:53
joeliothat's 15 past the hour14:53
jj-jjohh14:53
jj-jjhow do i make it every 15 minutes?14:54
joelio*/1514:54
joeliothat can splay too, so not *exactly* on 0,15,30 etc14:54
jj-jjand 1 * * * * * would mean every minute?14:54
joelioif you want that, do 0,15,30,4514:54
joeliono14:54
jj-jjpast the hour14:54
joelioyes14:54
joelio1 min past the hour, every min would be */6014:55
jj-jjokay14:55
jj-jjgreat thanks14:55
joelionp14:55
jj-jjso to check if its running14:55
jj-jjit would be14:55
jj-jjps auxww | grep schedule:run14:55
joeliosorry every minute would be * * * * * - brain out of order todat14:55
joeliobut */15 for every 15 mins14:55
jj-jjlol thanks14:56
joelioyea, that grep should work if you use - ps auxwww to get teh full command14:57
devanI have to say: I'm not happy with systemd: Every time I start the computer up, I have to deal with an annoying start job just to get luks to mount a partition that fails and starts the maintenance. If there anyway to get systemd to work better with cryptsetup? or safely remove systemd and revert back to upstart?14:57
joeliojj-jj: you can also use pgrep too, but that might not work with the subcommands on the binary14:57
joeliojust fyi anyway if you want to research pgrep14:57
joeliops auxwww | grep {thing} fine thoygh14:57
devanAnd lately the start jobs are getting worse with luks.. Its as if every update is breaking sytemd with luks. its insane14:59
OerHeksdevan, 'to mount a partition that fails and starts the maintenance'  .. better fix that share, than ranting about systemd15:01
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devanOerHeks, Thats something cannon should be told, not me..15:01
mejnourHello, guys. I was hoping you guys could point me a solution for a problem I'm having here regarding my WiFi adapter...15:01
OerHeksdevan, so why you tell us then?15:02
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devanbecause i was hoping that there's a safe way to remove systemd, thats why im in a ubuntu support chat15:03
OerHeksdevan, nope, then you need to go back to 14.04 lts  = reinstall15:03
boxrick1I am currently getting started with Pbuilder, I have built a package from a tarball and it seems to work. What is the easiest way of getting this inside Pbuilder ?15:04
mejnourI have a Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174, wich I managed to put to work AND is working right now. The thing is... Sometimes when I come back from suspend or when I boot up, It refuses to work. It simply won't find any wifi network... Everytime this happens, I have to reboot my machine. I wish you guys could point me some ways to identify what is going on the next time the malfunction happen...15:05
mejnourPlease* :)15:05
devanI dunno.. The fact that right after the death of ian murdock, debian all the sudden starts shipping out with systemd right after, which almost right after that, computers with encrypted partitions start breaking because almost every other debian like distro starts defacto'ing systemd is a little bit suspicious..15:08
DArqueBishopdevan: if your encrypted volume is having issues mounting, then you might want to troubleshoot and see why it's failing rather than getting angry at systemd and wanting to remove it. Even if switching from systemd to upstart in 16.04 were possible (it isn't), you're really just fixing a symptom and not the underlying issue.15:08
compdocsystemd is a conspiracy now?15:09
devanNo i suspicious15:09
devanbut why would distro's ship out something that most poeple know was buggish to begin with?15:10
daxdebian started using systemd before Ian died, and Ian left Debian a long while ago15:11
DArqueBishopdevan: conspiracy theories about systemd really belong in #ubuntu-discuss at best, and more likely in #ubuntu-offtopic.15:11
daxand yeah, this is all incredibly not-support-related15:11
joelioI thought Ian died well before systemd personally, time flies!15:11
joeliodevan: lots of distros that don't have systemd15:12
joelioand you can remove it if you want15:12
joeliobut ubuntu needs to stick to what debian's doing upstream really15:12
joelioand really, if you've used it a bit, it gets better15:12
joelioI hated at the start, less so now15:13
devanalright, maybe Im wrong but Im just like what the hell. everything was working fine until I installed a disto with systemd and everything gets wonky with these annoying start/stop jobs.. I tried to disable cups that didn't help, I tried to  fsck the partition, no-go. So I don't know what to do other then get paranoid over this.15:13
DArqueBishopdevan: have you run a SMART test on the drive?15:13
joeliodevan: didn't follow abouve, was busy, what's your issue exactly?15:14
devanok that I'll do that..15:14
devancan I get a step by step?15:14
DalekSecboxrick1: You'd generally  dpkg-buildpackage -S  then  pbuilder build ../whateverpackage_version.dsc15:16
carter_hello15:16
carter_i am having a problem with my operating system15:16
joelioDalekSec: also need to create the pbuilder first15:17
joelioyou can just run it from the package dir too (with debian/ dir in too)15:17
joeliono need to feed it a dsc fwiw15:17
NOVATechieswell damn i guess carter was impatient15:17
joelioor the problem was really bad15:18
DalekSecjoelio: Yes I guess I presumed he did it.  You can if you use `pdebuild`, yes.  There's some use cases for the dsc, and that's the one he'd started to use.15:18
mejnourWhat should I do if I get no answer? Should I re-send my issue?15:18
Southern_Gentlemmejnour,  if it has been 5 minutes yes15:19
mejnourThank you Southern_Gentlem15:20
Southern_Gentlemdevan,  what software isnt buggy15:20
Southern_Gentlemdevan i have been using systemd for close to 5 years with none of the issues you are describing15:20
mejnourI have a Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174, wich I managed to put to work AND is working right now. The thing is... Sometimes when I come back from suspend or when I boot up, It refuses to work. It simply won't find any wifi network... Everytime this happens, I have to reboot my machine. I wish you guys could point me some ways to identify what is going on the next time the malfunction happen...15:24
BluesKaj_mejnour, that's not your wifi hardware, that's a bug in network-manager. I've encountered the same effect15:26
mejnourBluesKaj_, and how you managed that?15:27
Amm0nmejnour, http://askubuntu.com/questions/761180/wifi-doesnt-work-after-suspend-after-16-04-upgrade15:28
mejnourBluesKaj_, I tried turning my WiFi off and on again... And nothing. Only reboot seems to work. I havent tried any terminal-related solutions15:28
mejnourOh, thank you very much Amm0n15:28
mejnourI'm gonna read that now.15:28
BluesKaj_mejnour, an upgrade for my braodcom 4313 driver helped clear up the problem15:29
razeal113when installing ubuntu with "erase disk and install ubuntu" i get, "the entire disk will be used (/dev/sda(ext4) 120GB  Does this mean that i will no longer have access to this memory?15:29
naccrazeal113: are you mis-using the term 'memory'?15:29
naccrazeal113: as it's a hard drive, not memory15:29
razeal113I suppose i meant that when it says the entire disk will be used, does this mean that i will lose access to the disk seeing how linux only a few GB and it is saying that it will use 120GB15:30
lkeijserhi, is it possible to download mysql 5.5.50 for ubuntu 12.04 lts  somewhere?  I can only find 5.5.5215:31
Southern_Gentlemrazeal113,  it will setup partitions and the like you will lose some space but no you will have access to a lot of it15:31
razeal113thanks Southern_Gentlem15:32
naccrazeal113: do you mean access to existing data?15:32
razeal113No i understand that i will lose all data , just an infintile question based on linux being so much smaller than 120GB and didn't want it to format the entire drive or it was unuseable , but sounds like im wrong and i will have access to that space15:34
naccrazeal113: you told it to use the entire disk, so it will use the entire disk. Not sure why that would result in some of it being inaccessible. "linux is smaller" -- do you mean the installed footprint?15:35
nevermindHi all. Noob question here. I'm trying to change the default netmask for an interface in /etc/network/interfaces, but running a 'sudo service networking restart' does not seem to put the change into effect. How can I change the subnet for an interface without doing a restart?15:35
compdocrazeal113, it just makes the entire disk usable for you to store files, etc.15:36
th0rnevermind, you might try ifdown/ifup. But then again, ubuntu might have changed that too.15:36
nevermindth0r: Thanks. Supposing I'm doing this remotely, is there a command to do ifdown and then ifup, or do I have to run both of those separately?15:37
th0rnevermind, I don't think you can do them remotely. If I was forced...I would write them into a script and hope it ran to completion and brought the interface up15:38
deadboyheii can anyone tell me wot the command init 1 will do15:38
deadboy?15:38
th0rnevermind, but I wouldn't want to even bet on that. Ubuntu went off the reservation and changed a lot of things...don't know if those commands are even in there any more.15:38
Southern_Gentlemit puts the machine in single user mode  (no networking and no gui)15:39
Southern_Gentlemdeadboy, ^^15:39
deadboybut i donnt even get a prmpt15:39
Southern_Gentlemtry another virtual terminal  (control alt-f2 f315:40
Southern_Gentlemin ubuntu does X run in VT7 or VT115:40
Southern_Gentlem?15:40
Joshua^Dunamisdeadboy: single user without network15:41
transhumanhi I found a script which writes a video on the root window, but it does not preserve the icons and normal desktop stuff except the ubuntu toolbar anyone know of one that does?15:41
cscfSouthern_Gentlem, 715:41
smallduckHello everyone. Can someone help me please ? . I installed ubuntu 16.04 in HP Pavilon x360 13inch. It had a issues with wifi and add I fixed it adding acer_wmi to blacklist.  But it has very low signal and also often disconnected.15:43
varaindemianI got this problem after using sudo apt update https://paste.ubuntu.com/23211914/15:49
joeliovaraindemian: have you got apt-https-transport installed/15:50
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joeliovaraindemian: sorry apt-transport-https15:51
gustav___14.04 is still supported. I'm having some problems with skipping sound on HTML5 YouTube in Firefox. Do I have to move pulseaudio to realtime? It used to work... how to fix?15:53
gustav___Skipping is not very precise. Sound shuts off for periods. There's noise + music or noise when no music is playing. Then total silence. Then  it plays again.15:53
ikoniagustav___: 14.04 is supported15:54
gustav___ikonia: Do you know about this sort of stuff?15:54
joeliogustav___: I recommend installing h264ify plugin.. you'll get hardware decode support15:54
ikoniagustav___: I'd look quickly at your machine resources making sure you're not peaking, I'd look at the codec, and I'd like at your video/audio setup in general15:54
joeliothe default google codec is vp9 - which has very little hardware support15:55
joeliothere is a plugin for both ff and chrome15:55
joeliogoogle own vp9 - hence why it's youtube default15:56
gustav___ikonia: CPU for Firefox is <20%.15:56
joelioif you right click and look at stats for nerds, you'll see15:56
gustav___h264ify is not in 14.04?15:56
joeliohttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/h264ify/15:56
joelioit's ff plugin15:56
varaindemianjoelio, prolly since I installed opera developer15:57
varaindemianjoelio, how can I tell you?15:57
joeliovaraindemian: apt-cache policy apt-transport-https15:57
joeliovaraindemian: it'll say if it's installed or not15:57
joelioif not15:57
joeliosudo apt-get install apt-transport-https15:57
joeliothen rerun apt-get update15:57
joelioor apt update, whatever15:57
gustav___Seems to be not Firefox or plugin related.15:58
gustav___Was using lowlatency kernel, now back on "generic."15:59
joeliolowlatency is good if you're in a studio, but not much benefit for normal playback imho16:00
ikoniagustav___: why are you using the low latancy kernel16:00
joelioand can have strange other effects16:00
ikoniathats a very specific use case16:00
gustav___ikonia: Checking if it's stable.16:00
ikoniagustav___: why ?16:00
gustav___I thought I might program something realtime later.16:00
gustav___That I decided years ago. :-)16:00
ikoniaits doubtful you'll need the real time kernel16:00
joelioyea, you really don't - even realtime kernel is not so realtime.. if you want realtime you need full realtime os (whihc isn't linux imho)16:01
gustav___I thought about developing lowlatency/microkernel in the kernel, or in some part of it, for myself.16:02
gustav___For some applications I would develop.16:02
joelioyea, but there's so many other subsystems16:02
gustav___Yep.16:02
gustav___Could do it on some PCI card.16:03
joeliofor proper realtime needs, like fly by wire - I wouldn't use linux :D16:03
joelioeven pci interrupts won't be afaiu16:03
joelio(in linux that is)16:03
joeliounless it's managed by a seperate os/clock etc and you just use pci channel for sideband comms16:04
gustav___This problem is reeeally annoying.16:04
joelioor something16:04
joeliowhat is it?16:04
gustav___That the sound is shut off.16:04
joeliocare to elaborate a bit? didn't see scrollup16:04
gustav___Playing. Off. ... Playing. ... Off.16:04
joeliocould be pulse, not kernel16:04
gustav___Time isn't constant, I think that's what makes it annoying.16:05
gustav___Yes.16:05
ikoniagustav___: I'm not trying to be rude, but you're talking about writing your own real time kernel, but you've not been able to research sound problems ?16:05
gustav___I said above I'm not on lowlatency now.16:05
joeliowell, get back to -generic first16:05
joeliook, cool16:05
gustav___joelio: I am.16:05
gustav___ikonia: I'm not very good with sound, better with processes stuff.16:06
joeliogustav___: and is the problem just in ff or is it in other apps16:06
gustav___Not a lot of knowledge about drivers in general.16:06
joelioand does it exhibit itself at startup, during or after X time16:06
joelioetc etc16:06
gustav___joelio: I can hear sound turning off from noise when not playing so not Firefox.16:06
gustav___It's right now, during runtime.16:06
gustav___ 18:06:57 up 18 min,  7 users,  load average: 0,13, 0,30, 0,3116:07
joeliodmesg, logs etc?16:07
gustav___I'm in X11 with a few terminals and Firefox.16:07
gustav___Ok.16:07
gustav___http://paste.ubuntu.com/23211988/ dmesg.16:07
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joeliogustav___: audio via onboard or hdmi nvidia?16:08
gustav___joelio: Onboard.16:08
joeliocan you try and aplay something - to put sound via alsa16:09
joelio(in console really with pulse deamon stopped to be sure)16:09
gustav___Yes.16:09
gustav___Hold on. Is aplay .wav only?16:09
joeliowork out if it's a driver issue or pulse (usually pulse)16:09
joelioumm, can't recall16:09
joeliogustav___: going to have to motor soon, but try that - see if it's fine in ALSA and then got something to go from16:10
joelioif you've got access to another sound device, try that too, for good measure16:10
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joeliogustav___: line 793 looks intersting, I dunno if I've seen that before16:11
joelioright, off :)16:11
varaindemianjoelio, Installed: 1.2.12~ubuntu16.04.116:14
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mamoihi16:17
theweirdn8anyone here willing to test my new IDE and see if it works for them?16:17
theweirdn8You can download it at http://frankteacher.com/img_host/GPE_LinuxMint16_Build_1_0_30_RelCan.tar.xz16:19
theweirdn8it says linuxmint b/c i compiled from it16:19
theweirdn8it does require SDL16:19
ikoniano16:19
ikoniaI suggest you publish the source and allow people to build it if they want16:20
ikoniaor build a PPA package for ubuntu16:20
theweirdn8ikonia: i don't know how to build packages16:20
theweirdn8also this is a clsoed source ide16:20
ikoniathen no16:20
theweirdn8its an IDE for cross-platform development16:21
ikoniaand I suggest no-one download that link16:21
theweirdn8im not going to release source, get 0 sales and have to keep seperating console related code for source releases16:21
theweirdn8its free, so why do u need source?16:21
ikoniatheweirdn8: no point discussing it then,16:21
nacctheweirdn8: also, this seems *incredibly* offtopic for this channel16:21
ikoniait is16:21
theweirdn8ok16:21
mcphailtheweirdn8: please advertise your product elsewhere16:21
BlionHi16:23
gustav___Ok, I got it working. I changed the BIOS setting of the sound chip from HD to AC97. I don't think it matter if I'm only using headphones...16:23
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gustav___matters.16:23
ikoniagustav___: interesting16:23
theweirdn8mcphail: im not advertising it. im trying to debug problems random users are experiencing16:23
ikoniatheweirdn8: please drop it16:24
ikoniayour'e spamming it on the network - this channel does not want it16:24
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ikoniaplease don't reference it again16:24
ikoniano need to discuss it more16:24
theweirdn8ikonia: calm down16:24
theweirdn8your hostilty of me replying to mcphail is not needed16:24
ikoniatheweirdn8: your spamming is not needed, so lets drop it please16:24
foormeahiya. on ubuntu 16.04, how do i force a ntp update? timedatectl lets me turn ntp on/off, but i can't find how to force a refresh16:24
theweirdn8anyhow16:25
theweirdn8how does one create packages from ubuntu?16:25
ikoniayou won't be really adding much value doing so16:26
ikoniaif it's a closed soure binary16:26
popeytheweirdn8: http://snapcraft.io/16:26
gustav___Back on lowlatency too. Have never noticed any problems from generic. Doing "office" work. Business, mostly text. +Firefox with music16:26
gustav___I use GIMP sometimes too.16:26
gustav___More seriously than drawing a few lines. Sadly this computer only gets 3GB of RAM. Big one is still broken. :)16:27
sardiorOk, i'm going to try this again. It has been over 10 years that I've changed distros of linux. but this problem is about to make me do that. No launcher, no menu bar. I've read ask ubuntu, tried everything there. help16:32
EriC^^sardior: does the guest account work?16:32
sardiorI have made a new user and it works16:32
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sardiorIt happened just after an update.16:33
sardior16.4 lts16:34
sardiorI have not tried the guest account because the new user account works.16:34
EriC^^sardior: try rm -r ~/.compiz16:35
sardiorI am using command line to use xchat-gnome and anything else I can run.16:35
EriC^^and rm -r ~/.config/compiz-116:35
sardiorEric^^: done16:36
sardiorEric^^: logout and try again?16:37
TAL___hey16:38
EriC^^sardior: yeah16:38
EriC^^sardior: also try dconf reset -f /org/compiz16:38
TAL___hey can some one help me with something16:38
sardiorOk... have to reboot to do that.16:39
sardiorEric^^: ok, done.16:39
TAL___i downloaded boot repair and unetbooting...16:39
sardiorI'll reboot now and try it.16:39
EriC^^sardior: sudo service lightdm restart should do it16:40
TAL___but i have no idea on what to put in the usb16:40
TAL___can someone please help me?16:40
EriC^^TAL___: what are you trying to do?16:40
TAL___im trying to fix my boot16:41
TAL___because i accidentaly deleted ubuntu16:41
TAL___i know that i need boot repair16:41
TAL___the thing is...16:41
EriC^^TAL___: how did you accidentally delete it?16:41
EriC^^!enter16:41
TAL___it was a stupid move, i was messing around in disk manager16:42
TAL___but friends told me boot repair could help16:43
TAL___but what i REALLY want to know, and the reason why i came to this chat...16:43
TAL___is that i dont know what to put in  the USB16:44
sardiorEric^^: did not work.16:44
sardiorEric^^: I am suspecting a permissions problem. Something I don't have permission to do, but I don't even know where to begin looking.16:45
TAL___Eric^^:  should i just move boot repair to the usb?16:46
TAL___because i never used it16:47
uRockTAL___, http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/16:47
MonkeyDust!grubrepair16:48
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub216:48
sardioranyone? No menu bar, no launcher Ubuntu 16.4 lts. I've read and tried solutions from ask Ubuntu many times.16:49
sardiorafter an update about a week ago, problem came up.16:49
MonkeyDustsardior  ctrl alt f1 and then try    unity restart16:49
sardiorI've done that.16:50
sardiordid it again, no avail16:50
TAL___Eric^^: so, to use boot repair i have to boot into ubuntu?16:50
sardiorlast message: "compiz (core) - Error: Failed to load plugin: restart"16:51
TAL___Eric^^: cant i boot directly into boot repair?16:51
sardiorMonkeyDust: I am fairly certain a permissions flag has been set wrong.16:53
uRockTAL___, follow the article. Yes you have to boot into a live image first.16:53
EriC^^TAL___: make a live usb, and boot that and come here so we can check what's up16:54
EriC^^sardior: try sudo find ~ ! -user $USER -exec chown $USER: {} \;16:55
TAL___uRock: ohhh, but then i have another problem, because i cant boot from my usb16:55
uRockTAL___, LiveCD?16:55
benccI have 2 drives. can I setup software RAID0 after ubuntu is already installed on one of them?16:55
TAL___uRock: havent tried, but when i boot it says "please remove any disks, press any key to restart"(or something like that)16:57
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TAL___uRock: and then it goes to grub rescue command line16:58
uRockTAL___, How did you install Ubuntu in the first place?16:58
TAL___uRock: with a usb using penlinux16:59
sardior_now I get this message when I open a terminal: Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged16:59
TAL___uRock: i dual booted windows and ubuntu17:00
TAL___uRock: now i cant even use the machine17:00
sardior_...and run xchat-gnome.17:00
uRockTAL___, You should be able to get into BIOS and set it to boot from the LiveCD or USB17:00
TAL___uRock: yes, i know17:01
nod0nHi, how can I browse a 7z file (without nautilus)?17:02
sardior_<MonkeyDust> sardior  ctrl alt f1 and then try    unity restart <----this locked up my computer. had to hard restart.17:02
uRockTAL___, That's what you have to do. If you can't boot from any external source, then bricked? Is it possible to pull the HDD out of that machine and place it in another to do the repair?17:02
TAL___uRock: the computer is a lenovo thinkpad t24017:03
TAL___uRock:17:04
uRockTAL___, I've purchased a casing for connecting laptops via USB just for that kind of thing.17:04
EriC^^TAL___: can you boot in legacy mode instead of uefi maybe?17:05
uRockTAL___, I've purchased a casing for connecting laptop ---hard drives--- via USB just for that kind of thing.17:05
TAL___Eric^^: how do i do that?17:05
EriC^^TAL___: when the pc boots press f10 or so to get the boot options17:06
EriC^^then choose usb, not uefi usb, or check the bios and see if you can enable legacy17:06
EriC^^or disable uefi17:06
TAL___Eric^^: ok, ill try17:06
EriC^^TAL___: it sounds like you erased the ubuntu partition from what you said, and the fact that you get grub rescue> so it's not really a big deal, yuo can get it all back using testdisk17:07
EriC^^you just need to recreate the partitions at the same sectors and it'll be good again17:07
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TAL___Eric ^^: i went on the disk manager and deleted everything that wasnt windows, so thers a slight chanse that i deleted grub...or maybe not. in the case i deleted grub, what should i do?17:09
TAL___EriC^^:i went on the disk manager and deleted everything that wasnt windows, so thers a slight chanse that i deleted grub...or maybe not. in the case i deleted grub, what should i do?17:11
EriC^^TAL___: what are you trying to do? get ubuntu back?17:12
TAL___EriC^^: im trying to fix the boot17:13
EriC^^TAL___: it sounds like you deleted the main ubuntu partition and it had the /boot partition there and now you get grub rescue> cause it can't find its stuff17:13
uRockEriC^^, Sounds like he may need LILO17:13
EriC^^TAL___: fix the boot meaning get windows to boot?17:14
TAL___EriC^^: sorry im sounding like a noob XD, but if grub rescue shows up, does that mean grub is still in my computer?17:14
TAL___EriC^^: the entire dual boot17:14
TAL___EriC^^: or at least be able to use my computer again17:15
uRockIf you deleted the non WIndows partitions, then you'll have to reinstall ubunt17:15
EriC^^TAL___: grub is either embedded in the mbr, like a sort of tiny code and it gets the rest of its stuff from an actual partition in legacy mode17:15
EriC^^in uefi mode grub is in the efi partition, and it also does the same thing17:15
EriC^^if you have uefi mode you can still boot windows right now cause it's also in the efi partition, you just need to select it to have priority over grub17:16
TAL___EriC^^: so then i can go to the bios, switch to uefi mode, i can use windows?17:17
EriC^^TAL___: do you need windows asap? if you dont then try to get the live usb to boot and restore everything17:17
EriC^^TAL___: well no, it depends in which mode windows was installed in17:18
EriC^^TAL___: check the bios and see if uefi is enabled or disabled17:18
EriC^^if you see something like legacy enabled then uefi is disabled17:18
TAL___EriC^^: right, ill check right now17:19
EriC^^also, try to get the live usb to boot, you can easily get things back the way they were in no time17:19
cghr8rb2kf3j9fI need to use ubuntu as a hacker ,, how to?17:29
OerHekscghr8rb2kf3j9f, hacker .. lolz .. but that is offtopic here, beyond the scope of this channel.17:31
cghr8rb2kf3j9fCan i make money of ubuntu?17:31
DJonescghr8rb2kf3j9f: Depends what you mean "as a hacker" normal use means a programmer/developer,  so learn to program, if you mean illegal and criminal hacking, then you're in the wrong channel17:31
DJonescghr8rb2kf3j9f: If you have users who need support on how to use Ubuntu, then yes you can make money by chargingfor your work17:32
OerHekswork .. not free money17:33
DJonesorlock: +117:33
DJonesOerHeks: +117:33
PotatoBoiey17:34
DJonescghr8rb2kf3j9f: If you're willing to put the effort into supporting Ubuntu/Linux users, then yes you could earn money17:34
PotatoBoiis this the right place for support17:35
DJonesPotatoBoi: For Ubuntu support, yes17:35
MonkeyDustPotatoBoi  yes17:35
PotatoBoii have a lil problem with the liveusb i made17:35
PotatoBoiwhen it opens the install or try window17:36
PotatoBoiwhen i click try it just goes to a black screen17:36
PotatoBoiand the mouse and keyboard stop working17:36
PotatoBoiforcing me to reboot my device17:36
PotatoBoii have already verified the ISO and it's not that17:36
PotatoBoibefore i click on try ubuntu the mouse and keyboard work fine17:36
xinglingcan anyone help me install a theme for my ubuntu? it doesnt appear for me to select it i dont know why17:37
EriC^^xingling: did you put it in the dir for themes?17:39
xinglingEriC^^, i put it both usr/share/theme and .themes and it doesnt work17:39
EriC^^xingling: are you opening unity-tweak-tool to select it?17:40
Dworfhello, any ideas that my apache wont show utf8 ä ö Å? its default config for utf-8, page setup says its utf-8 so whats the problem?17:41
xinglingEriC^^,  yes17:41
EriC^^xingling: did you extract the themes?17:42
xinglingEriC^^,  maybe its the theme i am trying to install the problem cause i have just tried to install another one and it worked17:42
EriC^^aha17:42
xinglingEriC^^, the theme i am talking about is hooli theme17:42
EriC^^any link?17:43
xinglingEriC^^,  https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1102901/17:43
mpo42vr_Guys, hello! I'm having issues setting up the Ubuntu SDK/Qt Creator. I want to create Go apps. It seems to run in an LXD container but in that environment there is no go installed, it is on the host. How would I go at this?17:43
EriC^^xingling: did you follow the install notes?17:44
xinglingEriC^^, if i got that right it was about the GM theme17:44
nod0nHi, I'm looking for a lightweight e-mail client which can handle gpg and imap. "less is sometimes more!"17:45
MonkeyDustxingling  try and contact the maintainer ... look top right, look top right,17:45
nod0nCan you do any suggestion?17:45
MonkeyDustxingling  try and contact the maintainer ... https://www.gnome-look.org/member/434822/17:46
dan01Hi, for laptops that have two graphics cards, integrated + a dedicated one, does Ubuntu comute betweean them?17:46
xinglingyes will do that...thanks17:46
EriC^^xingling: i think it has to do with the theme as well, one of the commands is sudo cp ~/...theme /usr/share/gnome-shell , i don't know if i would replace that system file with the theme provided one though17:47
DJonesdan01: If its Intel/Nvidia then this should help17:47
dan01Djones: yes, does it matter?17:47
DJonesdan01: Iuse a laptop with intel/nvidia, I installed nvidia-prime and works fine17:48
Komanda342232342016-09-21 17:37:14,764 Node[0] Start training with [gpu(0)] [17:37:24] /home/ubuntu/mxnet/dmlc-core/include/dmlc/logging.h:235: [17:37:24] /home/ubuntu/mxnet/mshadow/mshadow/./stream_gpu-inl.h:125: Check failed: (err) == (CUDNN_STATUS_SUCCESS) CUDNN_STATUS_NOT_INITIALIZED [17:37:24] /home/ubuntu/mxnet/dmlc-core/include/dmlc/logging.h:235: [17:37:24] /home/ubuntu/mxnet/mshadow/mshadow/./stream_gpu-inl.h:125: Check failed: (err) == (CUDNN_ST17:48
Komanda34223234getting that error while following this guide https://no2147483647.wordpress.com/2016/01/16/setup-amazon-aws-gpu-instance-with-mxnet/17:48
dan01Djones: So I need to install some drives, it's not out of the box?17:48
MonkeyDustKomanda34223234  start from the beginning, what are you trying to do17:49
Komanda34223234follow that guide17:49
Komanda34223234when i run the example i get that error17:49
DJonesdan01: Yes, they need installing, but they are in the default Ubuntu repo's17:49
MonkeyDustKomanda34223234  what's in it, describe it short17:49
PotatoBoiso could someone help me17:49
dan01Djones: Also do I need to install the ones from intel?17:49
Komanda34223234MonkeyDust: cuda + CUDNN + mixnet17:50
DJonesdan01: I didn't, I think they're included by default17:50
OerHeksKomanda34223234, all those steps with non-supported ubuntu packages, try ##aws ?17:50
Komanda34223234mixnet example says cudnn not initializing17:50
Tachyon_hello. if I put windows 10 on hibernate and start ubuntu I don't have internet. but if I put windows 10 on hibernate, switch off current alimentator, go for a while and then come back and start ubuntu, I have. it is anything I can do so I can have internet on ubuntu imediately after I put win 10 on hibernate ?17:51
dan01Djones: Thanks! So I can just use additional drivers? No need to take the lates drivers from nvidia.com? I fear the ones from the repo are outdated...17:51
DJonesdan01: I use the repo versions, the ones from nvidia's site wouldn't be supported here17:52
fullstackcan somebody shoe me their vannilla /etc/hosts ?17:56
fullstackvanilla ice17:56
Tachyon_I know this is a channel about ubuntu and not windows, but I don't feel like would be any help to ask in a windows channel. this is only my personal opinion17:57
OerHeksTachyon_, known issue. and it is not going to be solved.17:57
OerHekswindows hijacks your machine with their formula.17:58
EriC^^fullstack: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23212438/17:58
fullstackEriC^^, thjank you17:58
EriC^^np17:58
Tachyon_OerHeks: ummm.. no way to reset it ?17:58
V7Hello all17:59
V7I have 16.04 and my WiFi truens off aftersometime17:59
V7What I can do ?17:59
OerHeksTachyon_, don't know how, remove battery and plug it back in?17:59
Tachyon_OerHeks: I don't have a battery. it's a desktop pc17:59
Tachyon_is hibernation so unusual on desktops ?18:00
OerHeksTachyon_, one solution: stop using sleep/hybernate on windows, and also no fastboot18:00
cscfTachyon_, there's usually no need for it on desktops18:00
OerHeksTachyon_, it is a windows thing, that is bugging, complaint to them?18:01
Tachyon_I use it for faster get into work. usually I just left my visual studio opened(it does start pretty slow) -- and yes, I am trying to move to linux at all, but in time18:02
V7Guys ? What I can do if my WIFi connection is staying ok, but internet connection just fu* up after 5 mins of working ?18:02
V7Other devices working well18:02
V7So ... on Ubuntu 16.04 this happens ...18:02
V7Only18:02
joelioV7: what adapter, there are some with broken drivers18:03
V7Here I can find an information ?18:03
joeliothere are fixes though, but it depends...18:03
V7Where *18:03
EriC^^lspci | grep Network18:04
sardiorno menu bar, no launcher, one profile (main-single user). created profile, menu bar launcher works. none of ask Ubuntu solutions work.18:06
MonkeyDustsardior  try a reinstall18:06
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sardior1.5TB drive reinstall? of my whole system? No, I'll go to a different distro before I do that.18:07
tgm4883sardior: so you created a new user and everything works for the new user?18:08
sardioryes18:08
tgm4883sardior: easiest fix then would be to just mv your files to the new user18:08
sardiorTHAT is much, much easier said than done.18:08
EriC^^sardior: try mv ~/.config ~/.config.old18:09
tgm4883sardior: Why?18:09
EriC^^you basically have to do them one by one to find the culprit, did you run the find -exec chown command?18:09
sardiorEric^^: yes, I did it on the whole directory with -hR18:11
EriC^^sardior: try renaming ~/.config & then maybe ~/.gconf, as tgm4883 asked, why is it a problem to move your files to the new user?18:12
sardiorI have an almost full 1.5TB drive....18:12
sardiorDual boot18:12
sardioretc18:12
EriC^^moving the files won't take long, unless there's a kazillion of them18:12
cscfsardior, if it's on the same filesystem, mv is instant18:12
tgm4883sardior: that doesn't answer anything though? What does it being a dual boot have to do with it?18:12
EriC^^copying on the other hand..18:12
cscfor pretty much18:13
\9unless the move crosses a filesystem boundary18:13
\9in which case it18:13
\9's a copy+delete18:13
sardiorI have crossovers18:13
tgm4883\9: which it wouldn't be in this case18:14
\9hmm18:14
EriC^^sardior: rename your home dir, delete your user, create it again fresh, then move your files into the new home dir18:14
V7So .. ?18:14
V7Anything about WiFi ytouble ?18:15
V7trouble *18:15
V7Maybe anyone had this problem ?18:15
EriC^^sardior: renaming ~/.config usually does it if you'd rather not move stuff around18:15
V7Which one driver is the better one for WiFi adapter ?18:15
OerHeksV7, no info about what wifi device exactly? no answer ..18:15
sardiorI renamed it. I've done that several times and it doesn't fix the problem. There is a dependency permissions problem and I can't find it.18:16
V7OerHeks, I asked for a command18:16
V7Which one exactly info you need ?18:16
V7This is itegrated WiFi adapter of Ideapad laptop18:16
EriC^^sardior: did you try ~/.gconf ?18:16
EriC^^sardior: try find ~ -type f -exec chmod 660 {} \;18:17
sardiorno, that's the only one I haven't tried. rename ~/.gconf?18:17
EriC^^and find ~ -type d -exec chmod 770 {} \;18:17
OerHeksV7 you know enough comands to see what hardware you have.18:17
EriC^^sardior: yeah18:17
V71 sec18:17
butch30my new printer lists compatible operating systems but not LInux. Can Linux install it?18:18
V7Realtek RTL8821AE18:19
OerHeksbutch30, check openprinting.org, or your vendor driver page?18:19
sardiorYes, I've been using linux since 1998 in some form or another. and I recognize devices very well18:20
sardiorI just tried the two commands you gave me and nothing returned and had to ctrl-c to get out18:21
tgm4883sardior: are you sure it wasn't still searching? 1.5TB is kinda large18:21
EriC^^^18:22
OerHeksV7, lots of bugreports without solution, all you can do is confirm the latest, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1526683 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/152668318:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1526683 in linux (Ubuntu) "10ec:8821 rtl8821ae loses connection occasionally on 2.4 GHz network requiring hardware button to be toggled twice for connection to be re-established" [High,Incomplete]18:22
sardiorI can try again. hang on for a bit.18:22
parajI just upgraded from Ubuntu 14.04 to Ubuntu 16.04. On a boot, the monitors don't show the expected graphical display ... for example, the login screen. The screen shows a bunch of lines with the last one being "[OK] Started update UTMP about system runlevel changes"18:24
V7OerHeks, So .. there's no solution ...18:24
OerHeksV7 only trottle back to wireless b/g .. maybe18:25
sardiortgm4883: still wating for the first command to come back.18:25
V7...18:25
OerHeks"if a vendor does not give proper support, don't buy it"18:26
tgm4883sardior: ok18:27
sardiorok... some useful information: console.error:18:27
sardior  Corrupt session file (invalid JSON found)18:27
sardiorMessage: SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected end of data at line 1 column 1 of the JSON data18:28
DudefaceFriend just pointed me to an article about M$ buying canonical and plans to kill off Ubuntu, but I can't find much more information or any roadmap or anything. Anyone know of any more info-heavy articles about this?18:29
naccDudeface: that is not ot for the support channel18:29
OerHeksDudeface, drop your friend18:29
Dudefaceoop, sorry18:29
MonkeyDustDudeface  it was an april fish of a few years ago18:30
Dudefaceahh rad18:30
akikDudeface: why not link the article here?18:30
sardiortgm4883: did that last error message mean anything that you could understand?18:31
naccakik: because it's offtopic18:31
tgm4883sardior: I think you want EriC^^ to look at it. My recommendation was to mv files18:31
akiknacc: you're not interested whether microsoft buys canonical?18:31
OerHeksfind april 1 microsoft buy canonical onion18:31
Dudefaceakik Just finally looked @ date, yeah it's April 1st, but this year from Fossbytes: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwic4LuHjKHPAhVU02MKHXJfBskQFggeMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Ffossbytes.com%2Fmicrosoft-buys-canonical-kills-ubuntu-linux-forever%2F&usg=AFQjCNFJqKLFcOz0MicFm2RW1MS11bthYg&sig2=0j4P9zkkW4WD2ucxq7kaAg18:31
sardiorEric^^: did those last messages mean anything to you?18:32
tgm4883akik: because it's not support18:32
naccakik: it's not a support topic.18:32
Dudefacealso that18:32
EriC^^sardior: nope18:32
sardiorEric^^: it looks like a corrupted JSON file.18:32
OerHeksakik: it turns out the other way round: microsoft goes opensource..18:33
sardiorOerHeks: ya, that' s what I've been seeing too.18:33
parajIt's actually 16.04.1. The graphics card on my system is Radeon HD 4870.18:34
sardiorok... see ya'll later...18:35
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xinglingis there a way of making my programs to minimize when i click them on the task bar?18:39
parajSynopsis: upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04.1. graphical display is gone. graphics card: Radeon HD 4870. '$ sudo service lightdm start' to no avail.18:42
xinglingis there a way of making my programs to minimize when i click them on the task bar?18:43
BluesKaj_paraj, drop to a VT/TTY and update and upgrade then reboot18:44
Dudefacexingling Unity Tweak Tool will allow you to set that up, if you use the Unity launcher as your taskbar18:44
DudefaceLauncher settings, 'minimize single window applications on click'18:44
BluesKaj_too late18:45
Dudefaceahh darn18:45
BluesKaj_was gonna suggest iconify18:45
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parajBluesKaj, I just tried that sequence. It didn't work. one more thing, /etc/X11/xorg.conf file was missing. Does it affect the X Window server?18:53
Bray90820SCHAAP137: You around?19:03
doc|workhey. I'm trying to get an updated version of gstreamer1.0-vaapi but using the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed and trying to get a new version of gstreamer1.0 doesn't seem to work. While installing gstreamer1.0/xenial-proposed I get the following output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23212693/ Anyone got any idea why?19:04
OerHeksdoc|work, did you ran updates after enabling proposed? that might require a reboot too19:05
doc|workOerHeks, I did19:05
naccfwiw, there is no newer gstreamer1.0-vaapi in proposed19:06
doc|worknacc, exactly :)19:06
naccand gstreamer1.0 is a source pacakge19:06
doc|workoh...19:06
naccso you told it to install all binaries built from that package19:06
doc|workgstreamer1.0-vaapi does exist though, right?19:07
OerHekshttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64/gstreamer1.0-libav19:07
doc|worknacc, ok, you lost me. Why is that a problem? Does that not get me the libs I want?19:07
doc|workOerHeks, does that contain vaapi?19:07
doc|workOerHeks, I specifically need vaapi support :/19:08
OerHeksjust updating would give that proposed package, if gstreamer was installed in the first place19:08
doc|workOerHeks, updating which?19:08
OerHeksi don't see newer vaapi too...19:08
doc|workyeah19:08
naccdoc|work: gstreamer1.0-vappi is built from gstreamer-vaapi19:09
naccdoc|work: not gstreamer1.019:09
doc|worknacc, ok, I don't understand that. I install gstreamer1.0-vaapi to get it (non-proposed). Is that normal?19:11
naccdoc|work: why are you thinking there is a newer gstreamer1.0-vaapi?19:11
doc|worknacc: it's related to a bug fix I'm looking for in 1.8.3, which is vaapi related. That said it's not guaranteed to be in the lib. It's just it errors out so I wanted to make sure I was doing things right/ wasn't going to hose my system.19:13
doc|workyeah, it's erroring, then not doing the installation19:14
naccdoc|work: ok, but gstreamer1.0-vaapi does not come from gstreamer1.019:14
naccdoc|work: so gstreamer1.0 getting updated in xenial-proposed doesn't help you ata ll19:15
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doc|worknacc, is it possible gstreamer would be updated and vaapi wouldn't?19:16
doc|work(or likely)19:16
naccyes, that is the case currently afaict19:16
nacci'm not saying it should or shouldn't be19:16
nacci know nothing about the packages themselves19:17
doc|workargh, ok, let me check in another channel19:17
doc|workthanks19:17
majacan any one help me figure out why i cant browse samba network19:28
majasmbtree says nothing on 2 ubuntu 16 boxes19:28
majawith and without password :(19:29
ioriamaja, try to restart the services19:32
amnixHow can I make a three finger tap on the touchpad to behave like a mouse middle button?19:34
majaioria: have restarted both computers a number of times19:35
majaits been a few days19:35
majaamnix: i forget the name but there is a great super powerd mouse config app in apt19:35
ioriamaja, in Nautilus -> browse network ?19:36
amnixmaja: Don't remember what it was called?19:36
majaioria: i do <ctr> l then enter smb:///19:38
majaioria: nothing comes up19:38
majaioria: but if i enter an ip then i can mount host19:38
majawe also have a windows box in the network that can't view either ubuntu box19:38
yxabc_guys, I replace all trusty in apt/source.list to yakkety. It is a stupid action. and I cant boot now... who can help me.19:40
teknoprepi can19:40
teknoprepbut you need to explain more info19:40
teknoprepare you able to get into safe mode ?19:40
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teknopreprecovery mode19:40
yxabc_no..19:40
ioriamaja,  check your ufw   sudo ufw status19:40
yxabc_the grub2 told me can't find the vimlinuz19:40
teknoprephow far does your system boot ?19:40
vbrifAnyone have any ideas of why I can't install my gfx drivers?19:41
vbrifwhen I do it locks my screen, and I'm not able to login.  It like resets back to the login19:41
OerHeksyxabc_, boot live iso, chroot and fix it.19:41
majaioria: inactive....19:42
teknoprepyxabc_, you could install over top so that you keep your data using a new DVD19:42
teknoprepyxabc_, or follow something like this -- 4ub2k96s19:42
teknoprephttp://askubuntu.com/questions/117027/cannot-recover-grub-due-to-missing-vmlinuz-and-intrd-img19:42
ioriamaja,  can you browse the Network from windows ?19:42
uRockDoes "load average" in htop equate to Ghz?19:42
z80adoes Intel skylake processor still have issues with latest Linux kernel (or the other around)?19:42
yxabc_let me try, I got an iso on my windows19:43
majaioria: nope :(19:43
ioriamaja,  so what changed ? or never worked  ?19:44
majaioria: no change nothing works19:44
yxabc_thank you all~19:44
ioriamaja,   check /etc/samba/smb.conf  and the folder/share permissions19:45
uRock!htop19:46
majaioria: its the network borwsing that isn't working19:47
ioriamaja,   ping the windows box19:48
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majayup19:48
maja.2019:48
Southern_Gentlem sharing turn on the wondows box and the windows box firewall open to sharing19:49
ioriamaja,   if it's the first time you configure samba with a win machine , check the File Sharing in windows19:51
ExecIs there a painless way to clone some configuration of an xubuntu install to a different machine? (eg. packages and customization)19:51
ioriamaja,   Advanced sharing settings (on win7)19:52
majaioria: i look though them19:52
majaioria: but there is also an ubuntu box thats shareing but can't be seen in the browser19:52
chalbersmaIs this Ask Ubuntu Accurate (http://askubuntu.com/questions/804111/is-no-reboot-kernel-patching-enabled-in-16-04)? Is there now live kernel patching in Ubuntu 16.04?19:53
maja1/win 419:53
ioriamaja,   check if you have these pkgs samba samba-common python-glade2 system-config-samba19:53
majaioria: yup19:54
ioriamaja,   cat /etc/samba/smb.conf | pastebinit19:55
k1l_chalbersma: afaik ubuntu doesnt ship no-reboot kernels. but you could make use of it with proper patches included in new built kernels19:55
majaioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23212954/   cool i didn't know about that program19:57
k1l_chalbersma: i guess the guys in #ubuntu-kernel will know best19:57
ioriamaja,   you have no shares19:58
chalbersmak1l_: Thanks I'll two check with them.19:58
majaioria: i think thats done in other files19:59
derpherp128hiya19:59
derpherp128so i'm trying to look up hwo to set up ZNC on ubuntu 16.04.1 lts19:59
derpherp128all the guides tell me to sudo adduser znc, then su to znc19:59
majaioria: i make file shares via gui19:59
derpherp128but even if i don't set a password, su prompts me for one19:59
ioriamaja,   no experiences with that gui tool, sorry19:59
ioriamaja,   i use only smb.conf20:00
tgm4883derpherp128: you'd need to 'sudo su - znc'20:00
derpherp128thanks!20:00
majaioria: thanks :)20:01
ioriamaja,  you're welcome :)20:01
majaioria: still wonder why i can't brows things20:02
majai could last month20:02
derpherp128tgm4883: now whenever i use a sudo command as "znc" i get asked for a password20:02
ioriamaja,  well, i'd say because there is nothing to share20:02
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tgm4883derpherp128: what guide are you following?20:02
derpherp128tgm4883: i'm about to terminate my ec2 instance and go back to 14.04 lts lol20:03
derpherp128tgm4883: https://www.vultr.com/docs/install-and-setup-znc-on-ubuntu20:03
derpherp128but instead of compiling from source i installed the znc package20:03
tgm4883derpherp128: the znc package in the repos?20:04
derpherp128tgm4883: correct20:05
derpherp128so u hyeah20:07
tgm4883derpherp128: it's been awhile since I ran znc, but you should be able to either A) Setup a config for yourself in /etc/<somewhere> or b) run znc as your user. A would only work if it runs as a service20:09
tgm4883derpherp128: you shouldn't need to be running any znc commands with sudo20:09
squidberryderpherp128: is the one in the repos the most recent znc? I had issues with it a long time ago20:09
derpherp128tgm4883: im actually having problems BEFORE that20:09
derpherp128like there's nothing under /usr/local/bin/znc20:09
tgm4883derpherp128: correct. You didn't compile from source so it wouldn't be in /usr/local20:10
tgm4883derpherp128: what part are you currently having trouble with?20:10
derpherp128im just terminating my ec2 instance now20:10
squidberryderpherp128: try following this guide, it worked for me https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-znc-an-irc-bouncer-on-an-ubuntu-vps20:11
tgm4883derpherp128: ok, it's your box. But you should just need to run 'znc'. not '/usr/local/bin/znc'20:11
derpherp128squidberry: i was looking at that, but it's from 12.04. will that matter?20:11
squidberryIt worked on my 16.04 machine20:11
derpherp128i wish this was like arch -- arch's wiki is easy to read lol20:11
tgm4883derpherp128: so use arch then?20:13
terriblehey im using ubuntu 16 xenial and i want to know what display manager im using by default lightdm or gdm??20:13
derpherp128tgm4883: amazon ec2 doesn't have arch images afaik20:13
tgm4883derpherp128: don't run it in ec2 then?20:13
tgm4883derpherp128: really though, use something you're comfortable with20:14
derpherp128im not comfortable with linux :P20:14
derpherp128but i'm learningn slowly20:14
th0rterrible, try 'ps ax | grep dm'20:14
tgm4883derpherp128: well what you want to do isn't terribly difficult, and there was a guide posted for you to follow20:15
derpherp128yup! but i didn't follow the guide and compile20:16
derpherp128hence me starting fresh :)20:16
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terribleth0r: ok thank you20:17
terribleth0r: another questions by the way do you know how to change the login screen pictures?20:19
th0rterrible, there are several steps...I don't know offhand but did it once, there are some nice tutorials on the web20:19
terribleth0r: i found that im using lightdm now how to change the login screen pictures20:21
OerHekssystemsettings > accounts > click picture20:22
th0rterrible, https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+change+the+login+wallpaper+for+lightdm20:22
OerHeks!info unity-tweak-tool20:24
ubottuunity-tweak-tool (source: unity-tweak-tool): configuration tool for the Unity desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.7ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 367 kB, installed size 2797 kB20:24
ahotenushi20:25
ahotenuscan i ask a question ples20:25
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OerHeks!ask20:26
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:26
ahotenusokay thank u ubotu20:26
ahotenusam i in the right place20:27
Piciahotenus: If its an Ubuntu question, sure.20:28
ahotenusmy son gave me an x chat thing and he said use this instead stop phoning me when your computer isnt right20:28
naccheh20:28
naccahotenus: what isn't right with your computer, then? :)20:28
ahotenusok so my son put a new thing on my computer because he says to not use windows20:29
ztaneanyone know how to solve graphics problems with intel drivers in gimp in 16.0420:29
ztanenothing ever refreshes20:29
ahotenusbut now i cant find my photos20:30
ahotenusits little bit different now20:30
MonkeyDust!manual | ahotenus20:31
ubottuahotenus: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/20:31
ahotenusokay i tried open that but i have no internet20:32
weblwablHi! I have a macbook 4,1 (early 2007) running ubuntu, and am having issues with the battery, the laptop works as long as it is plugged in, but dies when unplugged is this just a battery issue or firmware issue? I saw something online about updating the SMC firmware but how would i go about doing that on a linux based OS20:32
ahotenusi used to have internet but now i dont have20:32
MonkeyDustahotenus  then how are you here?20:32
ahotenuson the x chat my son gave me20:32
MonkeyDustahotenus  xchat runs on the internet too20:32
ahotenusi think this is right20:32
Bray90820Does ubuntu 16.04.1 come with 4.4.0-31 or4.4.0-36 kernel by default?20:32
ahotenusi think maybe i have different x chat mine isnt on the internet20:33
ahotenusit is in a different box it says x chat ahotenus @ free node / ubuntu20:33
MonkeyDustahotenus  we can see you over the internet20:33
ahotenusbut the internet usually says internet explorer20:33
k1l_ahotenus: xchat is a program to use IRC. you are now using the ubuntu IRC channel. IRC doesnt work without internet.20:33
ahotenusor sometimes a different one after my son put linux20:34
naccahotenus: you'd use firefox, most likely, on ubuntu (at least by default, iirc)20:34
MonkeyDustahotenus  are you now oin linux or in windows, to talk here?20:34
MonkeyDustin*20:34
k1l_ahotenus: internet explorer is a internet browser from windows. you will not have that on ubuntu. you can start firefox or chromium or chrome (or whatever browser you got installed) to use the web20:34
uRockWhat's the easiest command to delete the first 50 lines of a file?20:34
ahotenusmonkeydust it is the new one20:35
naccahotenus: what we were saying before was simply that by being on IRC (here in this chat channel), you have internet connectivity.20:35
ahotenusits got the start menu on different side and it says ubutu when i turn it on20:35
DArqueBishopahotenus: your best bet would be to call your son and say, "Hey, maybe you should spend a couple of hours teaching me how to use this OS."20:35
MonkeyDustahotenus  what does the sceen look like the desktop?20:35
MonkeyDustahotenus  what does the sceen look like, the desktop?20:35
RufusHello. Trying to run latest ansible to write logs to a file, but its failing. I've been strace-ing it, and apparently, not even as root, the proccess can't find /tmp . apparmour is off, running ubuntu 14 lts20:36
ahotenusdarquebishop he wont help anymore he says he is not technical support desk and i am old enough to learn how to use a computer20:36
ahotenushe just says use the x chat20:36
ahotenusi am sorry :(20:36
DArqueBishopahotenus: considering he put that on your computer and didn't tell you how to use it? Damn right he's technical support.20:37
ahotenusmonkeydust its like purple20:37
aGoose_uRock: are you comfortable using vi or vim?20:37
ztaneuRock: command line? sed -i.bak -e 'd1,50' yourfile.txt20:37
MonkeyDustahotenus  with a bar on the left? if so, it's ubuntu20:37
ztaneuRock: sorry* '1,50d'20:37
ahotenusdarquebishop he help me at first but soon he said i need to learn20:38
k1l_ahotenus: what is your technical issue now?20:38
DArqueBishopahotenus isn't using Ubuntu. He's on Fedora 24.20:38
ahotenusdarquebishop only thing he told me is there is a problem between my keyboard and my chair, but then he says no more help until i help myself20:38
th0ryou can't find the file explorer, but you are smart enough to preface your replies with a username? hmmmmmm20:38
philoI have a partition, which has a luks container, which has a gpt partition table on it.20:39
ahotenusth0r yes i have use the x chat before20:39
ahotenusdarquebishop what is fedora 2420:39
ahotenusth0r the x chat help me when i couldnt go to the internet20:40
th0rof course it did20:40
MonkeyDustahotenus  hit    ctrl-alt-t    on your keybaord20:40
philoif I point gparted at /dev/mapper/crypt, it opens the partition table and /dev/mapper/crypt1 and crypt2 appear20:40
MonkeyDusttypo*20:40
k1l_ahotenus: you are not using ubuntu. so you are in the wrong channel in here. please ask the fedora support or the one who installed that linux on your system.20:40
ahotenuskll_ its says ubuntu when i start20:40
ahotenuskll_ is this correct20:40
k1l_ahotenus: dont troll in here. you are not using ubuntu.20:41
uRockaGoose_, Last time I tried to open it used up all of the RAM on my system, but I realized there are some lines at the beginning resembling script. It is a 32GB dictionary file.20:41
ahotenuskll_ i dont understand20:41
philowhat command opens the gpt partition table?20:41
ahotenuskll_ please what am i using :S20:41
uRockztane, does the -i bak create a backup?20:41
k1l_ahotenus: fedora 24, so ask in #fedora for help20:41
ahotenusmonkeydust ctrl alt t20:41
Sir_AndreiHi20:42
Sir_AndreiI've a little question20:42
Sir_AndreiI'm on Lubuntu 16.04.120:42
MonkeyDustmethinks ahotenus perfectly knows what's s/he's using, but simply tries to be funny20:42
Sir_AndreiAnd i was looking my interfaces, u know20:42
Sir_AndreiIt appear an interface wlp7so (network interfaces)20:42
Sir_AndreiNot wlan020:43
aGoose_uRock: oh so it's huge. yea sed is your best bet20:43
uRockthanks20:43
eggosis there a list of distros or releases that support certain hardware?20:44
eggosi'm wanting to migrate over from M**t20:44
k1l_!hcl | eggos20:44
ubottueggos: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection20:44
eggoso0o0o how handy20:45
eggosI'm liking the ubuntu community already20:45
eggoswell, the wireless card isn't compatible =(20:46
k1l_eggos: which card is it?20:46
eggosa broadcom20:47
eggosI just got home, I'm gonna pull up the exact number20:47
derpherp128alright, i finally got ZNC running. how do i set it as a service, so that it restarts automatically on reboot?20:47
eggosbut from what I've read so far, that kind of card is bleh with linux20:47
k1l_most broadcoms just need the right driver, the prop. one.20:47
ahotenus_hi again sorry my x chat stop working20:48
eggosyeah, I updated with a driver that was suggested in the Driver Manager, but the connection is SLOW, so20:48
eggosI want to find the right driver, get it on a usb stick and download it, is that possible?20:48
ahotenus_also someone is sent me really nasty messages :S20:48
ahotenus_but yes please can you help20:49
Sir_AndreiSomebody know about that strange interface?20:50
atrusis it possible to have unattended-upgrades only install security upgrade automatically?20:50
akikSir_Andrei: systemd made the change. the new method is called predictable network interface naming20:51
yanomehttps://irssi.org/2016/09/21/irssi-0.8.20-released/20:51
Sir_Andreiakik, Thx!20:52
derpherp128i followed the guide to compile and install znc, now i can't seem to access it20:55
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Piciderpherp128: 'the guide' ? znc is in the Ubuntu repositories, there shouldn't be a need to install it froms source.20:55
Guest79602hi all, is there a particular flavor of Ubuntu that works the best on hyper-v?20:56
ahotenushi sorry again is was same problem20:56
anomaly6:)20:58
Guest79602hi all, is there a particular flavor of Ubuntu that works the best on hyper-v?20:59
plxdontkillmewithout starting religious debate, can anyone point me to something discussing technical reasons upstart was abandoned? I am rolling my own linux distro, and was thinking about using upstart for it.21:01
cscfplxdontkillme, not sure that's on topic here21:02
k1l_plxdontkillme: the debian mailinglist and wiki from the decision should have all technical points. after that decision was made there is no one making effort to keep upstart alive. so it will be a dead end.21:02
plxdontkillmek1l_: as long as it works today, that's enough to start from. The debian ML discussed upstart?21:03
Guest79602im new to irc and this room, but my questionis, is there a particular flavor of Ubuntu that works the best on hyper-v?21:04
plxdontkillmecscf: Yeah, I thought about that, but since upstart was an ubuntu-spawned project, it was my best guess21:04
k1l_plxdontkillme: https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/21:04
plxdontkillmek1l_: thx21:05
akikplxdontkillme: 14.04 will use upstart until end of life21:05
tgm4883Guest79602: have you tried just standard Ubuntu?21:05
Guest79602no just wanted to know if someone had insight before installing21:06
plxdontkillmeakik: Yeah, I'm just trying to give myself a path after that.21:06
k1l_Guest79602: i am not aware of any flavour more suited than another. Lubuntus focus is slow and old hardware in general. so that or you start with the minimal install if you look for a small footprint21:06
tgm4883Guest79602: I think you're going to have more difficultly finding an answer to that here. Most people in this channel don't run Microsoft products21:07
Guest79602very true, thought is was worth a shot21:08
Guest79602i do appreciate the input though21:08
zivesteranyone know how to get the screen to come back on with nvidia + xubuntu 16.04 .. i think it went power save, and its not coming back.. can only get to terminals on ctrl+alt+f1-6, but 7 does nothing21:15
plex_daveI have a digital ocean server running 14.04.  I am only running icecast and mumble on it.  is there any advantage to upgrading to 16.04 in my limited use case?21:16
tgm4883plex_dave: no21:17
plex_davedidn't think so.  ain't broke, don't fix it.21:17
tgm4883plex_dave: well, you'd need to upgrade to 16.04 in order to upgrade to 18.0421:17
tgm4883plex_dave: but  yea, I wouldn't bother21:17
plex_daveRight, but that's a ways off... 14.04 is supported through 2018 (i think), which is quite a ways off....21:18
tgm4883yep21:18
tgm488314.04 is actually 201921:18
plex_daveoh yeah, i am good21:19
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eggosI have a driver on a usb21:20
eggosdoes anyone have a guide to downloading the driver on to the computer from the terminal?21:20
soreauon 16.04, can't connect to wifi because I get a dialog popup when trying to connect to any network, "Failed to add/activate connection\n(2) Active connection removed before it was initialized"21:21
soreauany workaround?21:21
burning-hot7H21:21
pavloseggos, copy the driver from /dev/sdb1 to your home, then install it21:21
eggosim very newb21:22
soreaueggos: Can you see the usb files when you plug it in?21:22
soreaueggos: and firstly.. what makes you think you need a driver?21:22
eggosyes, I can open the folder and see documents, they've been extracted and in Home21:22
pavloseggos, you plug in a usb, it might pop a window with its contents ... drap-n-drop to your home21:23
eggoshmm... wireless card is running verrry slow21:23
AndChat|716289Join #bulgaria21:23
soreaueggos: do you have some instructions you're using to fix the problem?21:23
eggosits a broadcom BCM4314221:23
eggosthis is my reference http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43/21:23
eggosdownloaded latest driver from here https://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/21:24
soreaueggos: what version of ubuntu?21:24
eggosoh damn, I forgot what chat I'm in21:24
eggoshaha, using linux mint21:24
soreaueggos: no worries.. what does 'uname -a21:25
eggosI logged in cause I was going to try ubuntu to see if my card worked with it21:25
soreaueggos: uname -a21:25
soreaufrom terminal21:25
dibyotest21:25
soreaudibyo: failed21:25
dibyojust installed ubuntu21:25
eggosany specific piece of info you want soreau? Its on another computer, I can type it out21:25
OerHeksmint has its own issues.21:25
soreaueggos: just the kernel version, uname -r I guess21:26
soreaueggos: either 4.4 or 4.621:26
eggos3.1921:26
soreau...21:26
eggos3.19.0 -32-generic21:26
pavloseggos, mint should be able to install the b43 driver21:26
soreaueggos: what does lsb_release -a say?21:26
eggosI think the problem is that it has the drivers, but I need a wired connection, just need to find an ethernet cable21:27
eggosI'm stubborn to try it without wired21:27
k1leggos: please ask the mint guys. 3.19 is no of the supported ubuntu kernels right now21:27
k1l!mint | eggos21:27
ubottueggos: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org21:27
eggosfor sure21:27
OerHeksyour system works pretty fast on internet, so your driver is oke21:27
soreaueggos: yea that kernel is kinda old, you might want to update/upgrade21:27
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soreaueggos: updating kernels will update drivers so it might automatically fix the problem21:28
eggosk, so it just might be way easier to find a wired connection huh?21:28
eggosthat is like 'sudo apt-get update', right?21:28
soreaueggos: just try a 16.04 live cd (or usb) session\ to test21:28
ahotenushi someone can help21:28
soreauahotenus: hi21:28
eggosthanks soreau, i appreciate your time and effort21:28
ahotenussorry my x chat was stopped working again21:28
k1leggos: 3.19 is non of the supported ubuntus. so we dont need to talk about that setup in here21:28
soreaueggos: no problem, hope you get it sorted!21:28
ahotenushi sorea21:28
soreauahotenus: hi, what's the problem?21:29
pavloseggos, you use mint 17, doing updates should find the driver21:31
tioxOh hey dere soreau21:34
soreauyo21:34
tioxI don't understand why installing the mint-y theme set looks _so bad_ in Ubuntu derivatives.21:34
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jacob_hello?21:36
k1ltiox: mint changes a lot of stuff with the way updates get rolled out. so we cant know what mint changes. especially when it comes to kernels and drivers. so better to ask the mint community to suport that21:36
fission6i have an established screen session, i would like my colleague to be able to use the same session so i can see what he types, how do i do that?21:36
tioxfission6: Try this application; http://teamviewer.com21:36
jacob_I love ubuntu, I replaced my windows21:36
jacob_youtube is faster21:36
jacob_everything is faster21:36
tioxNot exactly the _best_ method, but it installs easily enough and your and your friend can use TeamViewer for your express purpose.21:37
akikfission6: read about screen -x21:37
fission6tiox: i mean screen the command21:37
fission6akik: i tried that it didn't seem to work21:37
jacob_hey, does the system give an error sometimes when to many processes are used?21:39
jacob__hi21:40
jacob_hi sydny21:42
jacob_sydney21:42
pavlosjacob_, max #processes in linux, unlimited. Take a look at ulimit -a21:44
soreaujacob_: every os has a limited number of processes, what makes you ask?21:45
winboxHello21:47
loko_nice - i did not know about irssi21:49
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benccis it possible to change 2 drives to software raid after installing ubuntu?21:54
Leopard01Hi, does Ubuntu support the new Pascal NVIDIA GPUs? I have a GTX 1060 and wouldn't want it to go to waste if I switch to Linux.21:55
wonderfulmeecomrades21:56
wonderfulmeeis there an alternative to hypermail?21:56
k1lLeopard01: ubutnu 16.04 got the nvidia 361 in the repos. but you can get 370 from a PPA if needed.21:57
wonderfulmeewe're talking 4GB+ mboxes. need something that hasn't been abandoned altogether21:57
murphydoes adding swap help with memory resource issues?21:57
murphyi keep maxing out21:57
Leopard01k1l ok, thank u. is it common for linux users to have powerful GPUs?21:58
k1lmurphy: yes, but since swap is slow (because the hdd is slow compared to ddr.. ram) you better get more ram :)21:59
al__Hi, someone can please help me in a private with a new ubuntu installation. 14.04 to 16.1 LTS failed21:59
k1lLeopard01: linux users do have video cards, yes.22:00
dudefacewonderfulmee Citadel22:00
k1lal__: just ask here with details and then people will try to help22:00
Leopard01k1l the reason I ask is because for companies like NVIDIA, Windows users are the priority. So I would assume that Linux users are second-class consumers and therefore don't get as good drivers and overall support.22:00
dudefacewonderfulmee I think it's in repos22:00
wonderfulmeedudeface: I'm having a hard time googling it22:00
Leopard01This would mean that Ubuntu and other distros don't maximize the potential of the hardware22:01
dudefacewonderfulmee citadel.org22:01
peterrhello everyone22:01
al__Ubuntu 14.0.04 to Ubuntu 16.1 LTS failed. Now I will do a fresh install but I want conserv my old $home and user22:01
k1lLeopard01: linux doesnt have the same marketshare but the video card makers do ship prop. drivers.22:01
wonderfulmeethanks, but that's not remotely what hypermail is22:01
dudefacehypermail is a mass mailer, yeah?22:01
al__If I write same user in fresh installation ubuntu will respect it?22:02
slashrslashnHi all, just a quick question - I'm having a bit of trouble with getting a driver to install22:02
wonderfulmeesay, I have a 16GB mbox that I need to convert into an easy set of HTML files, preserving all the attachments22:02
wonderfulmeesay, I have hundreds of those22:02
wonderfulmeethat's what hypermail does22:03
wonderfulmeeI'm not sure it does the mailing part, and frankly that's beyond the scope of what I'm asking22:03
dudefaceLike, mailing lists, yeah?22:03
wonderfulmeelike mailing lists, right22:03
dudefaceYeah, Citadel will happily do that.22:04
dudefaceThough, if it's more than you want, doesn't matter22:04
wonderfulmeedoes it run from console?22:04
wonderfulmeeas in, can I put it into crontab on a headless server?22:04
dudefacehttp://www.citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:manpages22:04
wonderfulmeeany sample output?22:05
peterrHow to clone a hard disk on DVD please help i'm new to ubuntu , I was using partition magic for windows ... but I use ubuntu now thank for any help  :-)22:05
slashrslashnReally struggling to get catalyst installed in feisty, any questions?22:05
slashrslashn*ideas?22:05
dudefacenot sure atm, need to afk for 5-10, but I can look for you if you like22:06
naccslashrslashn: feisty is so far eol, your question seems like trolling22:06
OerHekslolz feisty, long time not heared about22:06
OerHeksideas ?22:06
slashrslashnnacc: Still works for me, if it aint broke...22:07
k1lslashrslashn: is that a joke? ubuntu feisty (7.04) is long time dead. like 8 years22:07
k1lslashrslashn: it is broken22:07
mcphailslashrslashn: it _is_ broke, which is why you're here22:07
slashrslashnkll: How so?22:07
slashrslashnkll: Apart from my driver issue22:07
peterrHow to clone a hard disk on DVD please help i'm new to ubuntu , I was using partition magic for windows ... but I use ubuntu now thank to anyone for help  :-)22:07
k1lslashrslashn: feisty got some serious security issues22:07
alxluI'm trying to run a bash function i have in my .bashrc using the custom keyboard shortcuts. It works when I type it into a shell, but it doesn't do anything as a shortcut. I have the Command set to gnome-terminal -e "/bin/bash -c mycommand".22:07
OerHeksslashrslashn, same issue22:07
k1lslashrslashn: oldest ubuntu supported is 12.04.22:08
wonderfulmeedudeface: thanks anyway, will have a look at that citadel thing, but frankly seems like overkill22:08
alxluDo I need to somehow source bashrc?22:08
slashrslashnkll: Not really looking to update to a new version just yet, I like to leave things a few years just for stability22:08
slashrslashnkll: I run a few servers see22:09
slashrslashnkll: And it's just good for peace of mind, especially for my clients22:09
k1lslashrslashn: 7.04 got massive issues. dont use that. if you isntall 16.04 now you dont need to upgrade until april 202122:09
k1lslashrslashn: clients? howly mowly. you are setting your clients to that security risks?22:10
mcphailslashrslashn: please read the topic. Feisty is not supported here22:10
peterrHow to clone a hard disk on DVD please help i'm new to ubuntu , I was using partition magic for windows ... but I use ubuntu now thank to anyone for help  :-)22:10
slashrslashnmcphail: I know it's not officially supported anymore but I was just wondering if there's anybody in the community still running Feisty who might be able to give me a hand22:10
OerHekspeterr, clonezilla is in our repos22:11
slashrslashnmcphail: It's what I love about the ubuntu community! :)22:11
bekkspeterr: you cannot clone a disk to dvd unless the disk is smaller than a dvd.22:11
k1lslashrslashn: no. that doesnt make any sense.22:11
slashrslashnkll: Sorry what doesn't?22:11
bekkspeterr: you can create a disk image, split it, and place it on a lot of dvd.22:11
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peterrok thank you i will look for clonezilla :-)22:12
k1lslashrslashn: your systems are heavily insecure. i bet some 10 year old learn how to invade your systems in their school lessons. you dont get any updates since 200822:12
slashrslashnkll: And with the clients they prefer that I run something a bit more stable, especially with the web and ftp servers22:12
slashrslashnkll: I know there's a few security risks associated with being out of support, but it also means that anything I'm running is fairly well tested and stable22:13
k1lslashrslashn: we dont support 7.04 anymore. please upgrade. thats it22:13
OerHeksslashrslashn, please join #ubuntu-offtopic, and let them have fun.22:13
slashrslashnoerheks: Thanks, I'll ask there22:13
al__In a new installation, how to be sure to have the same userID to can use old $home (separate partition)?22:14
slashrslashnkll: Okay thank you for the suggestion. What version would you suggest updating to?22:14
k1lslashrslashn: clean install of 12.04 at least.22:14
slashrslashnkll: And would that help with my driver issue?22:14
bazhangslashrslashn, please stop asking for support here on a long unsupported distro version22:15
slashrslashnkll: Okay thanks, I'll look into it. My only concern would be stability - I've got apache and a few other servers running on the machine, and I've got my backups stored in a separate partition so I'd just be concerned about losing data22:15
bazhangtry ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic slashrslashn22:15
popeyslashrslashn: no danger of losing data if you have good backups. You have backups, right?22:17
slashrslashnpopey: Yep they're on the other partition22:17
derpherp128hey, any idea if you can run a ZNC server AND an email server (the whole works) on an amazon t2.micro instance?22:18
derpherp128rough requirements would work too.22:18
slashrslashnbazhang: Sure, sorry I didn't mean to get off topic. I'll ask on #ubuntu-offtopic about my driver issue, but I'm just wondering about 12.04 on here now, if that's alright! :)22:18
AndChat409344Hello22:19
bazhangboot a live cd of a supported version slashrslashn22:20
popeyAndChat409344: HELLO!22:20
k1lslashrslashn: i would recommend a new install with new setup, since you cant know if your old insecure system is not already hacked and running bad code.22:21
AndChat409344Guys every time I'm booting Linux I'm getting initramfs22:21
AndChat409344It was working just fine until I rebooted it22:21
slashrslashnbazhang: I will, just need a few answers (about the supported version) on here before I do - a lot of the data I store is sensitive (addresses, bank details, etc) so I'd be concerned about the risk to it upon upgrading22:21
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AndChat409344Can anyone help? Lol22:21
slashrslashnkll: Yes I'm definitely looking into that now you've suggested it (thanks btw!)22:22
Ben64slashrslashn: are you serious? there's WAY WAY more risk running something as ancient as 7.0422:22
multifractalHow do I get 14.04 to send the audio through the HDMI cable to my TV?22:22
slashrslashnben64: Yeah that's the issue really22:22
AndChat409344I'm getting end kernel panic22:22
AndChat409344Can't boot it22:23
AndChat409344I can go to grub though22:23
glitchdmultifractal, you have to select the hdmi in the audio devices22:23
glitchdmultifractal, *sound devices22:23
slashrslashnben64: But obviously something like 12.04 hasn't gone through as much testing as Feisty, which is my main concern22:23
Ben64slashrslashn: WRONG22:23
slashrslashnben64: How so/22:24
multifractalglitchd farkin awesome thanks dude!22:24
k1lslashrslashn: very wrong. 12.04 is already more than 4 years old22:24
slashrslashn*?22:24
glitchdmultifractal, is that working for you?22:24
slashrslashnkll: Feisty is 9 years old22:24
AndChat409344Damn.. Ignored af22:24
k1lslashrslashn: you really got a wrong concept of safty and stableness22:24
Ben647.04 was cared about for exactly 15 months22:24
Ben64and thats it22:24
multifractalglitchd hell yeah it is, thanks man.22:25
glitchdAndChat409344, did you try to select a different kernel at boot?22:25
slashrslashnben64: Again, that's a concern of mine22:25
glitchdmultifractal, np22:25
Ben6412.04 has been cared about for the past 53 months22:25
slashrslashnben64: I thought about upgrading to Hardy a while back, but I read about all the issues with stability on ubuntu forums and decided against it22:25
k1lslashrslashn: better go for 14.04 right now. since that is already in use 2,5 years. and still got 2 years left22:25
AndChat409344Guys come on I need your help lol22:26
slashrslashnkll: I appreciate the advice but I think 14.04 would be jumping the gun in a big way22:26
Ben64no it wouldn't22:26
glitchdAndChat409344, have you tried to boot a different kernel at grub?22:26
Ben6414.04 has been supported longer than 7.04 still22:26
Ben6429 months vs 1522:26
slashrslashnkll: My clients pay for stability and I don't want to start making too many untested changes22:26
wonderfulmeeslashrslashn, you're much likely to run into security issues than those of stability22:27
k1lslashrslashn: sorry, but that is complete wrong what you say. if your ubuntu version is out of support then you dont get any of this security patches to your system: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/22:27
Ben64STABILITY MEANS NOT HAVING GIANT SECURITY HOLES22:27
AndChat409344I have the live USB should I just reinstall everything?22:27
k1lslashrslashn: then isntall 16.04 and have 4,5 years support left22:27
AndChat409344But the problem is that my windows is deleted and I can't access the boot menu unless from windows22:27
AndChat409344How can I boot a live USB from grub22:27
Ben64really, if you don't want to change, install 16.04, don't upgrade again until 202122:27
OerHeksslashrslashn, your behaviour is a disgrace for your clients.22:27
AndChat409344?22:27
slashrslashnoerheks: That's a little inappropriate...22:28
k1lslashrslashn: stableness doesnt mean you sell security issues to your customers. because they can sue you for that22:28
Ben64slashrslashn: you fail to understand the gravity of the situation22:28
glitchdAndChat409344, you have to select the usb as the boot device in the bios22:28
slashrslashnkll: I have a very tight contract22:28
slashrslashnkll: But I would hope that they wouldn't run into any security holes anyway22:29
k1lslashrslashn: just look at ubuntu.com/usn how often ubuntu needs to ship security updates. you dont get any of that updates anymore since your ubuntu version is EOL22:29
AndChat409344I know but it just won't boot if I did that22:29
AndChat409344For some reason22:29
k1lslashrslashn: all your services are insecure.22:29
slashrslashnkll: As far as I'm aware I've not run into any security issues yet22:29
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Ben64then you're not aware22:30
slashrslashnkll: But like you say I think it's time for an upgrade22:30
orlockthat you are aware22:30
wonderfulmeeslashrslashn, someone will abuse your 9 y/o installation, if not already.22:30
glitchdAndChat409344, if it wont boot usb when you select that as your first boot device then probably something is wrong with the usb install22:30
orlockbecause the l337 h4x0rs put up a banner when they 0wn your site22:30
k1lslashrslashn: meaning you havent noticed yet. you dont know if your systems are botnet clients or spam mail servers22:30
Ben64openssl vulnerabilities, openssh, apache, mysql, etc etc22:30
Ben64all unpatched since 200822:30
Ben64it's INSANE22:30
orlocki mean, honestly, if he's not running anything, its likely fine..22:30
slashrslashnwonderfulmee Ben64: People still use Windows XP which was released in 2001...22:31
Ben64and they're stupid for that22:31
AndChat409344Nothing is wrong with the flash drive it works with other computers22:31
tgm4883slashrslashn: and those people have giant gaping security holes to consider22:31
AndChat409344Is there a way to boot the USB from grub?22:31
orlockslashrslashn: Because they have to, and if they have any brains, it's isolated.. and people dont run servers on it22:31
AndChat409344Or initramfs22:31
bazhangslashrslashn, please take any further chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic22:31
wonderfulmeeslashrslashn, that line of defense is going to work out famously22:31
k1lslashrslashn: ok. if you dont want to listen to people in here who do know about that stuff. then please stop asking in here. we dont support 7.04. thats it.22:31
glitchdAndChat409344, then how is reinstalling grub going to solve your issue?22:32
wonderfulmeeand I'm pretty sure XP's EOL was last year or something22:32
slashrslashnbazhang: It's not chit chat, I'm considering my upgrade paths to a supported distro, so I'm pretty sure that's on topic22:32
Ben64wonderfulmee: yep, still supported longer than 7.0422:32
AndChat409344I'm thinking of reinstalling everything22:32
slashrslashnkll: I'm not asking for 7.04 support, I'm asking for 12.04 support22:32
bazhangslashrslashn, its way past time to move it to the offtopic channel, please do so22:32
glitchdAndChat409344, never a bad idea22:32
AndChat409344But I was wondering if there's a way to boot the flash drive from grub22:32
Ben64slashrslashn: go to 14.04 so you don't have to repeat this in April of next year22:33
k1lslashrslashn: make a clean reinstal of 12.04 or 14.04 or 16.04. dont take data with you since you dont know that its not malware inside.22:33
slashrslashnkll: I'm taking your advice and I'm looking to upgrade to 12.0422:33
glitchdAndChat409344, there is, but it involves editing grub22:33
wonderfulmeeslashrslashn, at the very least, which services do you have running facing the internet?22:33
OerHeksDo a fresh install of 12.04, as it brings new grub2 & ext4 standard.22:33
slashrslashnkll: That shouldn't be a problem, I keep the personally identifiable stuff in a different directory from the public stuff22:33
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k1lslashrslashn: if you install 12.04 now, you only have support until april 2017 left22:33
Ben64don't do 12.04, it runs out of support in 7 months22:33
glitchdAndChat409344, http://superuser.com/questions/349633/boot-from-usb-using-grub22:34
OerHeksDo a fresh install of 14.04 preferred, as it brings new grub2 & ext4 standard too.22:34
AndChat409344Alright man gonna try that22:34
tgm4883slashrslashn: his point was that you don't actually know if the non-public stuff has been compromised or not considering you're on such an unsupported version22:35
wonderfulmeeslashrslashn, but really, you should burn that shit with fire. ever heard about UEFI rootkits?22:35
* popey tickles tgm4883 22:35
slashrslashnwonderfulmee: The main ones facing the internet are apache 1.3, mysql 5, vsftp 222:35
tgm4883popey: !22:36
glitchdAndChat409344, gl22:36
slashrslashnwonderfulmee: I also have some backend software to process card payments, etc22:36
wonderfulmeeslashrslashn, oh my.22:36
Ben64slashrslashn: that's horrible22:36
slashrslashnwonderfulmee: But I wrote that myself so that's not an issue of being supported or not22:36
Ben64pretty much guaranteed to be compromised22:36
tgm4883popey: I asked about your mouse yesterday after listening to the podcast. I've had a similiar issue with my logitech mouse and I saw another user on here with the same issue and a logitech mouse22:37
wonderfulmeeslashrslashn, "But I wrote that myself" oh my22:37
tgm4883slashrslashn: oh geez, please oh please I hope none of my credit card info has gone through your system22:37
wonderfulmeenow tell me you're somehow PCI DSS compliant22:38
slashrslashnwonderfulmee: What is that?22:39
AndChat409344When I execute the chainloader +1 it's saying hd1 cannot get c/h/s values22:39
wonderfulmeeslashrslashn, nothing to worry about, really.22:39
tgm4883slashrslashn: OK, you're trolling now right?22:39
k1lslashrslashn: this is just for apache 1.3. not looking at the services: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-45/product_id-66/version_id-3444/Apache-Http-Server-1.3.html   so please lets move on. you have given enough help and prove now.22:39
slashrslashntgm4883: Nope, not trolling22:40
tgm4883slashrslashn: Then please tell me your credit card payment system isn't actually used anywhere22:40
k1l*have been22:40
wonderfulmeeshit's sad.22:40
slashrslashntgm4883: I haven't had any issues with it so far22:40
glitchdAndChat409344, try pressing f12 when booting to get to the boot drive selection menu, then select to boot from hd22:40
bazhangplease no cursing here wonderfulmee22:41
wonderfulmee<slashrslashn> tgm4883: I haven't had any issues with it so far - nah, no way that's for real22:41
tgm4883slashrslashn: no, you haven't had any issues that you know of22:41
slashrslashnkll: Okay thank you, I'll look into that22:41
OerHeksgrinn this chat is logged and card companies will love this. poor clients.22:41
AndChat409344See, that's the thing, I cannot access the boot menu unless I use windows and my windows got deleted22:41
AndChat409344Same thing for the BIOS22:41
slashrslashntgm4883: I think I'd notice if I did, I'm not an idiot...22:42
glitchdAndChat409344, that doesnt make sense22:42
k1lguys lets move on. he knows he needs to reinstall a supported release. no need to chat more about it its his decision in the last end. if he is stubborn its his fault.22:42
bekksAndChat409344: the bios and the boot menu is accessed prior every OS being booted.22:42
glitchdAndChat409344, the bios boot loader is run way before windoze/linux ever boots22:42
AndChat409344Well I've tried every key22:42
AndChat409344Every way22:42
glitchdbekks, lol sry22:42
slashrslashnkll: I am looking to upgrade to a supported release! Based on your advice22:42
AndChat409344I just can't access the menu22:42
wonderfulmee"windoze", wow. it's like 1995 all over again.22:42
glitchdAndChat409344, hold f12 as your booting22:42
AndChat409344Or the bios22:43
tgm4883slashrslashn: how would you know? The point of the comprimise would be for the attacker to sit there quietly and log all the credit card numbers coming in. They wouldn't be puting up a big sign saying "hey, you've been hacked yo"22:43
AndChat409344Doesn't work22:43
bekksAndChat409344: did you take a look at the manual of your computer on how to access the bios?22:43
glitchdAndChat409344, if that doesnt work try booting while holding delete22:43
slashrslashntgm4883: I monitor traffic across my network22:43
orlockHonestly, if he was 0wned22:43
AndChat409344It doesn't work too but I'm going to look up the manual on the internet22:43
orlockthe payment vendors would have let him know22:43
oldnemoHommies22:43
bazhang!ot | slashrslashn22:43
ubottuslashrslashn: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:43
glitchdAndChat409344, have you even attempted to read what comes up on the bios screen? maybe youve had a hard drive failure..22:44
slashrslashntgm4883: And I studied network security when I was taking my masters degree22:44
k1lslashrslashn: ok, then move to #ubuntu-offtopic to talk about it. the support case is closed22:44
orlockthey have sphisticated algo's for correlating card fraud22:44
bekksAndChat409344: common bios access keys are f2, f4, f6, f8, f9, f10, del, et al22:44
orlockslashrslashn: Well you should know better then22:44
bekksAndChat409344: and f12 as well.22:44
slashrslashnbazhang kll: I'm not off topic, I'm asking for advice on upgrading to 12.04, which is supported22:44
Ben64slashrslashn: again, upgrade to 14.04 or 16.04, so you don't have to deal with this again in 7 months22:45
bazhanglets get back to support please22:45
k1lslashrslashn: i muted you now, since your supportcase is closed.22:45
glitchdbekks, gj22:45
glitchdbekks, ::thumbs up::22:46
glitchdk1l, hilarious.22:46
glitchdk1l, not being sarcastic, thank you.22:47
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AndChat409344Couldn't find the manual22:47
AndChat409344I literally tried everything lol22:47
glitchdAndChat409344, doubtful.22:47
AndChat409344I tried all keys22:48
AndChat409344Also with fn +Fx22:48
bekksAndChat409344: So which computer, which make and model do you have?22:48
glitchdAndChat409344, what kind of computer do you have?22:48
oxideHello everyone! I have a problem that is probably unfixable but still i want someone detect the problem.. Can anyone help me?22:48
wonderfulmeeoxide: no, it's unfixable.22:48
glitchdoxide, jus ask22:48
AndChat409344Samsung 270e22:49
oxideOk.. listen22:49
bekksAndChat409344: which one of the 270e family?22:50
oxidei have a netbook,the acer aspire one 522. The netbook in random times is loosing it sound and sometimes after i click many times the sound icon in panel,the sound coming back just for few minutes or seconds22:50
glitchdandchat22:50
glitchdcheck your pm22:50
AndChat409344Np270e5g-k02sa22:50
wonderfulmeetolda ya, unfixable.22:50
RLShiftyDoggithow goes it all22:50
oxidethe same problem appears in both of my os :ubuntu mate(and every linux i tried) and windows22:51
bekksAndChat409344: Bios key is F2 according to the manual.22:51
oxide:P at least can you tell me what is the problem?22:52
AndChat409344Didn't work lol22:53
glitchdAndChat409344, have you replaced your hdd?22:53
AndChat409344Maybe because it has windows preinstalled22:53
bekksAndChat409344: turn it off, turn it on, and start pressing f2 again and again until you see a login screen.22:53
AndChat409344Had*22:53
oxideis the sound card?is the motherboard?and how it is possible to be hardware problem and when i click the volume icon the sound returning?22:53
AndChat409344And no I didn't replace it22:53
oxideglitched or wonderfulmee?22:54
glitchdoxide, ?22:54
wonderfulmeeoxide: random issues like that are unlikely to be solved remotely, especially so that you provided literally no information as to your hardware. I suggest you keep on clicking, really. you're not going to find an answer.22:54
oxideok mate,thank you for your time and answer. :)22:56
AndChat409344Man I rebooted it like 20 times just now22:57
oxidehave a goodnight everybody!22:57
bekksAndChat409344: And? Did you follow what I just told you?22:57
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AndChat409344Are there any initramfs commands?22:57
AndChat409344And nothing worked man lol22:57
bekksAndChat409344: That is not an answer to my question.22:58
AndChat409344Yes I did man but nothing worked22:58
wonderfulmeethat's a loosing game right there.22:58
AndChat409344Fsck exited with status code 822:58
AndChat409344No init found22:58
bekksAndChat409344: So you shutdown your computer, pressed the power button and you started to press f2 again and again, two or three times a second UNTIL you saw a login screen?22:59
AndChat409344Nope no login screen22:59
AndChat409344And secure boot is off btw22:59
gklHi all22:59
bekksAndChat409344: Did you power off, powered back on and started to press f2 again and again?23:00
AndChat409344Yeah lol23:00
bekksAndChat409344: I dont see the funny point in having to ask the same question three times until getting an answer.23:00
bekksAndChat409344: how can you tell that secure boot is off, since you cant access the bios?23:01
gerdhello ?23:02
gerdcan anybody hear me ? :-)23:02
dudefaceyes gerd23:03
gerdthank you ... i'm new to this whole irc thing23:03
michaeleBonjour23:03
matv1bgerd jusk ask whatever it is you want to know23:03
dudefaceIt's just a chat room, basically23:03
gerdis there a command to display all channels of the current server ?23:04
AndChat409344Because I turned it off when I had windows23:04
dudefacegerd what client are you using?23:04
bekksAndChat409344: in the bios?23:04
gerdweechat 0.4.223:04
AndChat409344Yeah23:04
bekksAndChat409344: So how did you access the bios back then?23:04
dudefacegerd /list23:04
bazhang!alis | gerd23:04
ubottugerd: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http23:04
bazhanguse alis not /list dudeface gerd23:05
dudefaceerp23:05
johnc4510what bazhang said ^23:05
thecodethinkerHey so I'm having issues writing to an SD card. ddrecue keeps hanging at around 54% and trying to run sync also just hangs until i manually eject the sdcard. Does anyone have any idea why this is going on?23:05
gerdwow ... is everybody on here that nice ?23:05
johnc4510no23:05
johnc4510to be blunt23:06
johnc4510but mostly23:06
johnc4510:)23:06
AndChat409344I accessed it through shift+restart on windows23:06
bekksAndChat409344: ...23:06
AndChat409344Then to trouble shooting23:06
wonderfulmeethecodethinker, try multiple SD cards, report back23:06
AndChat409344Then to bios23:06
RLShiftyDoggithey has anyone ever played with the porting process of ubuntu-touch im a lil stuck not gonna go on about it here just a lil help would be nice23:06
bazhanggerd here is ubuntu support, for chit chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic23:06
thecodethinkerwonderfulmee: I tried on 2, same thing23:06
bekksAndChat409344: shift accesses the boot menu, and you cannot access bios from there.23:06
bekksAndChat409344: so how did you access bios?23:07
AndChat409344No I accessed the bios that way23:07
AndChat409344Back when I had windows23:07
bekksAndChat409344: you did not, since thats not possible.23:07
gerdagain ... thank you. i will23:07
bazhang!touch | RLShiftyDoggit23:07
ubottuRLShiftyDoggit: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch23:07
AndChat409344I swear I did lol23:07
bazhangtake this there please RLShiftyDoggit23:08
bekksAndChat409344: technically, thats not possible, despite your swears.23:08
AndChat409344I accessed the bios and turned off secure boot and changed the order of the boot list23:08
wonderfulmeethecodethinker, dmesg |grep SD23:08
wonderfulmeethecodethinker, lsusb |grep SD23:09
bekksAndChat409344: you didnt access the bios the way you told us.23:09
gerd!alis | gerd23:09
ubottugerd, please see my private message23:09
AndChat409344No I did23:09
bekksAndChat409344: thats not possible, technically.23:09
AndChat409344There's no bios key23:09
RLShiftyDoggiti find it funny that everyone says go to the wiki or the channel like anyone is ever in there and the wiki only covers basics lol im in the touch channel no ones there and wiki isnt answering the question23:09
AndChat409344Only through windows23:09
bekksAndChat409344: there is.23:09
thecodethinkerwonderfulmee: give me 1 sec. I have to reboot for linux to find my sdcard again -_-23:09
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bekksAndChat409344: windows has no access to the bios.23:10
AndChat409344Well my laptop doesn't have that23:10
AndChat409344Wait I'll send a link23:10
bekksAndChat409344: https://www.manualowl.com/m/Samsung/NP270E5E/Manual/359105 page 82.23:10
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AndChat409344http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QGiG1oljjZI23:11
bekksAndChat409344: I'm not going to watch any youtube stuff.23:11
en1gmawhen i installed ubuntu 16.04 desktop i had my ssd connected to my mb sata port. i then removed that drive and plugged it into my usb to sata adapter and i have it as an external removable drive.23:11
en1gmai just did an ubuntu update and im pretty sure i need to run grub2 again to make sure it is put on the correct drive. my external usb to sata drive23:12
en1gmacan someone help with this? i havent rebooted since i updated23:12
weblwablIs it possible to update the BIOS on a macbook 4,1 with ubuntu installed on it?23:12
weblwablWithout having to install osx and then update it that way23:13
bekksweblwabl: a macbook doesnt have a bios at all.23:13
weblwablor SMC firmware or whatever they call it23:13
murphyefi23:13
thecodethinkerwonderfulmee: what were those commands again?23:14
wonderfulmeethecodethinker, lsusb |grep -i sd23:14
en1gmahere is my 'fdisk -l' http://pastebin.ca/372078223:14
en1gmagrub needs to be on sda23:14
thecodethinkerwonderfulmee: nothing23:14
thecodethinkerit's an internal sdcard reader23:14
AndChat409344How can I boot a live USB from grub23:15
wonderfulmeethecodethinker, lsusb, then look for anything like a card reader, paste that back23:15
bekksAndChat409344: that oesnt solve your problem.23:15
AndChat409344Man it was working fine until I restarted it23:15
thecodethinkerwonderfulmee: nothing looks like an sdcard reader23:15
AndChat409344:'(23:15
thecodethinker:(23:16
weblwablOkay, macbooks use EFI instead of BIOS, but is there a way to update it on ubuntu? Apples website has a .dmg for updating23:16
thecodethinkerit's mostly manufacturer names23:16
en1gmai think when i just updated it screwed me on my sdb drive23:16
en1gmaFAWK23:16
bekksweblwabl: No.23:16
wonderfulmeethecodethinker, /sbin/lsmod |grep sd23:16
wonderfulmeethecodethinker, dmesg |grep -i sd23:16
thecodethinkerthere's sd_mod, sdhci_pci, sdhci_acpi, and sdhci23:17
en1gmathat 120GB is 1 of 3 in a fost raid. pretty sure its not supposed to be a gpt.... is there a way to check to see if ubuntu update installed grub to that drive besides the original grub2 sda install?23:17
wonderfulmeeokay, those are the kernel modules. what does the dmesg suggest?23:18
en1gmai havent rebooted yet so i think this can be fixed right?23:18
thecodethinkerwonderfulmee: what're you looking for? dmesg logged a bunch of stuff23:18
wonderfulmeethecodethinker, dmesg |grep -i sd23:18
wonderfulmeelook for anything that sounds like a card reader23:19
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thecodethinkerwonderfulmee: there's this mmc0: new high speed SDHC card at address aaaa23:19
wonderfulmeethecodethinker, dmesg |grep -C 3 -i mmc023:20
en1gmahow can i find out if grub updated/installed to wrong drive and not the original drive it was installed when i installed ubuntu when the drive was connected to sata port instead of now being used with a usb to sata adapter?23:21
thecodethinkerwonderfulmee: yeah it shows the logs for the reader there23:21
Bashing-omen1gma: ' sudo debconf-show grub-pc ; sudo grub-probe -t device /boot/grub ; sudo lshw -C Disk -short ' see if these give you re-assurace .23:22
en1gmak. 1 sec23:22
wonderfulmeethecodethinker, does it show the hardware though?23:22
wonderfulmeethecodethinker, as in the SD reader brand23:23
wonderfulmeethe chipset, anything verbose like that23:23
en1gmaBashing-om http://pastebin.ca/3720784  thats what it shows now23:23
en1gma"grub-pc/install_devices_failed_upgrade: true"23:24
wonderfulmeethecodethinker, if not, do whatever it is that you did that failed at 56% and run dmesg |tail -1023:25
wonderfulmeeonce it hits the 56% or whenever the trouble starts23:26
wonderfulmeegoogle that along with the name of your notebook/card reader. you're likely to stumble upon something helpful.23:28
Bashing-omen1gma: Yuk, we got to think anout this, I had expected " * grub-pc/install_devices: /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD5000ABYS-01TNA0_WD-WCAPW4886797 " such as my output for where gryb is installed to .23:32
Bashing-omabout*23:32
en1gmai always get this problem. it is such a pita. linux wont install to usb drive. so i put it in my computer on a native sata port. then after everything is working i have to disable updates because i remove the drive and put it on my usb to sata adapter23:33
en1gmaif an update slips through it messes me up real bad. either by installing grub over my soft-raid windows drives or by not installing correctly and then i cant boot.23:34
en1gmathis is first time i caught it without rebooting and finding i cant boot23:34
loon00533is there a way to regenerate the interfaces file since i added a new network card?23:37
ZorkelHi, can I get some help by chance? I'm trying to install ubuntu with dualboot to windows 8.1 but run into a weird problem I'm not sure on how to solve. My drive is a 250GB SSD partitioned as basic MBR and ubuntu won't install using 16.04 x64 desktop tried several versions to make my pendrive bootable. The error is around the lines "live cd content not found" I guess it has something to do with MBR partition and uefi.. Any ideas how t23:38
glitchdloon00533, is the device listed in lspci?23:39
cfhowlettZorkel, confusing description.  1.  did you actually create the pendrive?  2.   is so, how, exactly?23:39
en1gmaZorkel in your bios/ufi i think you have to turn secure os off23:40
Bashing-omen1gma: I am not the best to advide in a raid situation . Best I do recall most levels of raid want grub installed outsite the raid array on all related drives . But my memory is hazy . I do look at " grub-pc/install_devices_failed: false " that grub is not properly installed .23:40
ZorkelYes I did using rufus and unetbotin and I did try to disable secure bootmode to other os but didn't help at all23:40
OerHeksloon00533, rm -f /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules # and reboot, http://serverfault.com/questions/353839/ubuntu-network-driver-reset-to-eth023:40
loon00533glitchd: whats the command to see if it is listed23:40
en1gmaBashing-om ok so hopefully it didnt install to the raid23:40
glitchdloon00533, lspci23:40
AndChat409344Man nothing is working lol23:40
AndChat409344Sucks23:41
cfhowlettZorkel, does it always break at the same place i.e. same error message each time?23:41
Bashing-om!raid | en23:41
ubottuen: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto23:41
en1gmastill would like to salvage this linux install as i been using it for quite sometime and dont want to start over really23:41
Zorkelyes it does23:41
Bashing-omen1gma: ^^23:41
Zorkeltried live cd and install ubuntu no luck at all23:41
cfhowlettZorkel, what year is your computer?  anything after 2012 and you could be looking at uefi issues.23:41
loon00533glitchd: yes it is there23:41
glitchdloon00533, is it a wifi card or a lan card?23:42
Zorkelit's a rather new one I know I have had issues with linux before and uefi and I believe you are correct cfhowlett23:42
cfhowlettZorkel, well assuming the issues is indeed uefi, if it's a new computer, should be relatively easy to suss out.  see the wiki for guidance.23:43
cfhowlett!uefi23:43
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI23:43
en1gmauefi you have to disable the secure os but keep part of it23:43
loon00533glitchd: its a lan card23:43
en1gmai forget the name of the settings. there are 223:43
glitchdloon00533, what model?23:43
Zorkelhmm not sure my bios likes disabling part of the uefi thing and windows doesn't quite give me uefi bios settings it's missing as it seems to be running on a mbr and not gpt disk.23:44
loon00533glitchd: Intel PRO (sorry forgot to mention i was on virtualbox so its like a generic virtual card)23:44
cfhowlettZorkel, i.e. a "hybrid" gpt.  it happens23:44
Zorkelmotherboard is an asus maximus ranger 823:44
glitchdloon00533, lol23:44
glitchdloon00533, is the network card a new physical card or a virtualcard?23:45
en1gmai have the asus z97-itx and before that i has the asus maximus vii rog23:45
riverswoodI have a problem with nautilus it takes for ever to open new tabs23:45
riverswoodwhat should I do?23:45
riverswoodI am running gnome shell23:45
riverswoodubuntu 16.0423:45
loon00533glitchd: well i have two cards and they are both virtual cards on my vm23:45
en1gmaZorkel i would reboot and take a pic and post it but if i do that i will lose my linux so if i can fix that than i can take a pic and show you how i have mine setup23:46
glitchdloon00533, what are you attempting to do?23:46
en1gmaoh. you have to emulate the drive under usb ports23:46
en1gmamake it into an hdd where your usb drive is23:46
loon00533glitchd: https://askubuntu.com/questions/293816/in-virtualbox-how-do-i-set-up-host-only-virtual-machines-that-can-access-the-in23:46
loon00533glitchd: this23:46
en1gmait will show your usb flash drive. then you select a drop down menu to emulate cdrom, floppy, hdd etc...23:47
ZorkelHmm so if I trick my computer to see the drive as a hdd I can install ubuntu as it should and allow dualboot?23:47
loon00533glitchd: trying to have access to my host + internet but not mess with my home network23:47
cfhowlett!who23:47
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)23:47
glitchdloon00533, why not just use NAT?23:48
en1gmaZorkel for me i i have a sata ssd that i actually installed when it was connected to a real sata port. i then removed the drive and use a usb adapter and then set that setting in bios23:48
glitchdloon00533, then setup shared folders?23:49
en1gmai would give it a shot for your situation23:49
loon00533glitchd: i installed apache2 and i couldnt reach the page on the host23:49
en1gmaif i rem right. you might be able to fiddle with secure os. if you disable that i think it will let you install to usb device.23:49
Zorkelreading on the uefi page it seems I found part of the problem the first screen gives me this screen23:50
Zorkelhttp://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347445084.png23:50
Zorkelbut when it moves on to install I see this screen23:50
Zorkelhttp://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347445119.png23:50
glitchdloon00533, did you set a static ip for the vm?23:50
k1lZorkel: on the second one press a key. like space23:50
Zorkelso it seems it starts in uefi and then tries to switch to legacy?23:50
cfhowlettZorkel, too damn small to see!23:50
en1gma^^^23:51
Zorkelparagraph 5 on the uefi link you gave me23:51
glitchdloon00533, i think this should help you23:51
glitchdloon00533, https://askubuntu.com/questions/293816/in-virtualbox-how-do-i-set-up-host-only-virtual-machines-that-can-access-the-in23:51
en1gmayou have to fool with secure boot and that usb emulation setting23:51
en1gmathen you might* have a chance to install to usb flash drive23:51
loon00533glitchd: saw that page and it didnt work :/23:52
en1gmaBashing-om you still here?23:52
glitchdloon00533, what have you done so far?23:52
ZorkelI see so as it is not quite possible to actually dualboot ubuntu/windows on this machine?23:53
loon00533glitchd: well i came back to the original setup so only one adapter which is NAT and the original interfaces file23:53
en1gmayou might be able to. pretty easy to check. boot into bios and change those settings23:53
ZorkelBut will see if I can manage to fool it :)23:53
glitchdloon00533, and the server still cant reach the outside internet?23:53
en1gmayou can turn secure os back on after you install is complete23:53
ZorkelThanks for letting me know where to look23:53
en1gmai would have better pics for you but i cant reboot yet as i will lose my booting to linux. messed up grub install23:54
loon00533glitchd: thats not the problem! my problem is i cant reach the apache server from the host browser (when i type the guest server ip adress in the host browser)23:55
cfhowlettzorkel: suggestion: take your time, document what you are changing and be prepared to make many attempts.  IOW >>> Keep Clam & Ubuntu On23:56
glitchdloon00533, i believe you need to use a bridged network in the settings of the virutal machine23:57
glitchdloon00533, what os is the host and what os is the guest?23:58
loon00533glitchd: host is win 8.1 and guest is ubuntu server 14.0423:58
loon00533glitchd: and no! i'll retry the advice on the page you sent me earlier23:59
glitchdloon00533, maybe this will help?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/52147/how-can-i-access-apache-on-virtualbox-guest-from-host23:59

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