[16:10] <eylul> is there something we need to do from our end to make sure yakkety beta gets on tracker? 
[16:11] <sakrecoer> i don't get it... http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/367/builds
[16:11] <sakrecoer> ah.. you too eylul 
[16:11] <sakrecoer> haha
[16:11] <eylul> heh yeah
[16:11] <sakrecoer> i don't know. i asked in -release, but no one answers me...
[16:12] <eylul> *nods*
[16:12] <sakrecoer> flocculant: do you know what we are missing?
[16:12] <eylul> (we could also try Ross, if flocculant doesn't know. Not sure who else could potentially know)
[16:14] <eylul> sakrecoer: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/360/builds
[16:14] <eylul> it looks like everything that went to beta is today's build. ubuntu base is currently rebuilding, possibly we are after that?
[16:15] <sakrecoer> maybe...
[16:16] <sakrecoer> eylul: how do you see ubuntu base is reuilding?
[16:16] <sakrecoer> rebuilding even
[16:16] <eylul> it says (re-building) in parenthesis on daily
[16:16] <eylul> and ubuntu studio just begun rebuilding
[16:16]  * sakrecoer *faceplams*
[16:17] <sakrecoer> right...
[16:17] <sakrecoer> :D
[16:17] <sakrecoer> well... crossing fingers then...
[16:17] <eylul> *snorts*
[16:17] <eylul> it happens to best of us :)
[16:22] <Nicowe> Hi all
[16:24] <Nicowe> Is there a good soul to help me through the iso testing process ? 
[16:28] <flocculant> sakrecoer: looks like no buildy again - 64bit failed ~2 minutes ago
[16:30] <flocculant> Nicowe: hi - generically iso testing is pretty much the same for any of the flavours - so a look at this I did for 'my' lot will at least give you a start http://wiki.xubuntu.org/qa/isotesting
[16:31] <flocculant> though at the moment it seems there are no studio isos on the tracker
[16:31] <eylul> hi Nicowe! and we are here if you have any particular questions.
[16:32] <eylul> flocculant thanks, is there anything we can do from our end to fix it? 
[16:34] <eylul> huh... is it normal for a build to fail with no log at all? 
[16:35] <sakrecoer> hi Nicowe ! :)
[16:35] <flocculant> eylul: no idea I'm afraid
[16:35] <sakrecoer> flocculant: oh snap...
[16:36] <sakrecoer> this time arround we got no eamil about it :/
[16:36] <eylul> sakrecoer we just did it seems
[16:36] <eylul> (literally just now) but its only 64bit one so far that failed, and no.. log?
[16:36] <flocculant> sakrecoer: there wouldn't be a 'you want to join in' mail - everyone is added in for it 
[16:36] <Nicowe> flocculant: Thank you, this will be helpful !  
[16:37] <flocculant> Nicowe: you're welcome :)
[16:38] <sakrecoer> flocculant: afair, usualy we get a mail sent to the devel list about failed ISO..
[16:38] <Nicowe> I think my first question is answered : the iso that should be tested is not avaible yet, right ?
[16:38] <sakrecoer> Nicowe: yes, that is right
[16:38] <sakrecoer> Nicowe: are you the nicoas i've been in touch with about this testing thing?
[16:39] <sakrecoer> *Nicolas even, sorry
[16:39] <sakrecoer> ah, here came the fail mail :D
[16:39] <Nicowe> sakrecoer: yes, the same :=
[16:39] <Nicowe> :)
[16:39] <sakrecoer> good to see you here Nicowe ! :)
[16:40] <sakrecoer> welcome!
[16:40] <Nicowe> Thanks, I followed your advice and here I am, trying to learn a few things !
[16:40] <flocculant> sakrecoer: oic - no idea about that - thought you were talking about iso's :p also it has 'just' failed, and do you get e-mail when it fails to build or later when the log bit is complete :)
[16:41] <sakrecoer> probably when the log bit is complete :)
[16:41] <sakrecoer> flocculant: ^
[16:41] <sakrecoer> i just got the mail that is...
[16:42] <flocculant> then not the log bit - that's not there yet :p
[16:42] <eylul> Nicowe you can probably start downloading the daily iso from 09/20 with zsync, when the new one builds, it will sync the differences, and will be a lot faster. 
[16:43] <eylul> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/360/builds/131642/downloads
[16:43] <sakrecoer> true... the mail came empty..
[16:44] <sakrecoer> never seen that before though...
[16:44] <Nicowe> eylul: This is the daily build ? I am running this right now
[16:44] <Nicowe> I will try this zsync thing
[16:44] <eylul> yeah! (also it seems like the 32bit did build, and it is attempting again the 64bit so it might be a random accident)
[16:45] <sakrecoer> Nicowe: yes, and you can use a program called zsync to just download the changes instead of the entire iso
[16:45] <sakrecoer> eylul is full of great advices :)
[16:45] <eylul> basically nicowe it makes sure you don't download the whole 3GB again and again. :) 
[16:45] <flocculant> definitely something awry there >  Started 7 hours ago  Finished 20 minutes ago (took 7 hours, 23 minutes, 58.5 seconds) 
[16:46] <eylul> sakrecoer: :) just passing on what you guys taught me. ;)
[16:46] <flocculant> anyway - too many cooks etc
[16:46] <eylul> too many cooks?
[16:46] <flocculant> and I've got xubuntu to not worry about too much
[16:47] <flocculant> eylul: spoil the broth :)
[16:47] <sakrecoer> flocculant: thanks! :) that is very long indeed
[16:51] <Nicowe> So I should zsync the iso I have and then burn it again to install ? 
[16:51] <eylul> Nicowe do you actually use DVD to install, or a usb?
[16:51] <Nicowe> I use DVD because I install on an external hard drive
[16:51] <eylul> if you do a dvd, I would download but wait before burning it because it looks like the iso is trying to rebuild right now
[16:52] <flocculant> Nicowe: you can 'always' zsync - if the iso has no changes it will tell you that and do nothing :)
[16:53] <Nicowe> Okay !
[16:57] <sakrecoer> Nicowe: you have tried with an usb already right? 
[16:58] <sakrecoer> (asking because: better safe than sorry)
[16:58] <Nicowe> What do you mean ? burning the iso on a usb stick ?
[17:00] <eylul> Nicowe, you can also put the iso on an USB stick
[17:01] <eylul> as in boot from a usb and install that way, not all computers have a cd drive so.. 
[17:04] <Nicowe> Yes I have done that for other installs
[17:04] <Nicowe> but from what I've read you cannot do this and then install on an external drive
[17:05] <eylul> huh
[17:06] <Nicowe> not completely sure about that last assertion !
[17:06] <eylul> it is possible
[17:07] <eylul> I just haven't tried testing outside a VM yet, which reminds me, I need to get my act together and setup something to do just that
[18:27] <sakrecoer> i can't seemt to find a build log for the failed build..
[18:27] <sakrecoer> *seem
[18:28] <flocculant> which is odd in itself - which is why I think it's actually stuck somewhere/how
[19:05] <sakrecoer> hello chamois :)
[19:05] <chamois> Hello sakrecoer!
[20:22] <eylul> sakrecoer: we have a build
[20:34] <sakrecoer> \*/ <- mind blown and happy :)
[20:36] <sakrecoer> i'll test tomorrow though...
[20:40] <eylul> its not uploaded yet