[06:33] <cc> hello,pals
[06:33] <cc> :)
[06:33] <sebsebseb> hi
[06:35] <cc> how many people using ubuntu phone?
[06:36] <cc> now the systerm is Ubuntu 15.04(OTA-13)
[06:37] <cc> What's the difference?
[06:44] <sebsebseb> cc: hi
[06:44] <sebsebseb> cc: I haven't updated myself just yet, but I know the main feature in it and
[06:44] <cc> hi
[06:45] <sebsebseb> cc: actsaully http://omgubuntu.co.uk  had a nice article explaining about the new features
[06:45] <sebsebseb> but I think this release is mostly just bug fixes really
[06:45] <sebsebseb> however
[06:45] <sebsebseb> however :)
[06:45] <sebsebseb> copy and pate now works between the native apps, and libertine/xmir/arm programs so like Firefox LIBREO oFFIC etc, on the tablet
[06:45] <sebsebseb> awesome :)
[06:45] <sebsebseb> cc: which device you on ?
[06:46] <sebsebseb> cc: and which ota you on now ?
[06:46] <sebsebseb> if on a recent one, you probably won't really notice any difference or as such, after upgrading
[06:46] <sebsebseb> but I suggest doing so anyway
[06:46] <sebsebseb> for bug fixes and such
[06:47] <sebsebseb> and that was copy and paste above
[06:50] <cc> i use MeiZu Pro5
[06:51] <sebsebseb> cc: oh nice
[06:51] <sebsebseb> cc: yes I think quite a lot of the fixes that are in there as well will apply to the Meizu Pro 5
[06:52] <cc> hmm
[06:52] <sebsebseb> cc: which otas you on now?
[06:52] <sebsebseb> 12 ?
[06:52] <cc> but i'm not using it often
[06:52] <sebsebseb> cc: not using it often why ?
[06:52] <cc> 13
[06:52] <sebsebseb> ok your up to date
[06:52] <sebsebseb> for another six weeks or so
[06:53] <sebsebseb> ota 14 will be November :)
[06:53] <cc> because  a lot of App it cant be used on this
[06:53] <sebsebseb> cc: apps such as?
[06:53] <cc> just like wechat,zhifubao
[06:53] <sebsebseb> cc: where you from?
[06:53] <cc> china
[06:54] <sebsebseb> cc: what apps would you want that can't be used on it?
[06:54] <cc> wechat,...
[06:54] <sebsebseb> cc: oh weechat is a chinese thing isn't it ?
[06:54] <sebsebseb> for chatting ?
[06:54] <cc> i'm really really want to use it
[06:54] <cc> no,wechat,not weechat
[06:54] <cc> 微信
[06:54] <sebsebseb> yes
[06:54] <sebsebseb> wechat
[06:54] <sebsebseb> a chinese thing?
[06:54] <sebsebseb> a chinse chat program?
[06:54] <cc> yeah
[06:54] <sebsebseb> cc: with your govemrenett spying on you :d
[06:55] <cc> just a little like whatsapp
[06:55] <sebsebseb> yeah but achineese one, so they can spy on you more easilly :d
[06:55] <sebsebseb> cc: it's all about market share etc
[06:55] <cc> :(
[06:55] <sebsebseb> cc: I guess even for that
[06:55] <sebsebseb> apps generall are not made for Ubuntu touch or any alternatie  mobile OS to Iphone/ios and Android
[06:56] <sebsebseb> unless there is enough of a demand a market
[06:56] <sebsebseb> cc: even Wndows Phone  lacks lots of apps
[06:56] <sebsebseb> even with Microsoft's money etc
[06:56] <sebsebseb> Blackberry had a load of problems to, so now going to do Android, and given up on their own OS it seems
[06:56] <cc> hmm
[06:56] <cc> so i use iphone more time
[06:57] <sebsebseb> cc: there isn't much of a mrakte for Ubuntu touchcurrently for big known apps, because it's mostly still aimed at developers and entuthsisats
[06:57] <sebsebseb> cc: also  there's no Androd apps compatability layour, such as there is with the Jolla phone from former Nokia developers, and Samsungs Tizen
[06:57] <cc> i think less chinese developers
[06:57] <cc> so little chinese application
[06:57] <sebsebseb> cc: you could buy a different interesting LINUX based phone possibly, yes a Jolla phone, or maybe get a Tizen from india
[06:58] <sebsebseb> cc: those can actsaully run Android apps, since they have a compatabilty layour
[06:58] <cc> maybe you're right
[06:58] <cc> but i like meizu
[06:58] <sebsebseb> cc: if you aren't happy with your pro 5, and don't really want  to follow the progress of Ubuntu Touch, where things are going, and oh that's interesting, since in every update after every six weeks or so,  there are new features etc, bug fixes etc
[06:58] <sebsebseb> at times it's not that noticabble at other times it is noticable
[06:58] <sebsebseb> you really see ewhat's changed, what's new
[06:59] <fw190d13> morning
[06:59] <sebsebseb> cc: but if you aren't happy enough with  the pro 5, you could sell it
[06:59] <sebsebseb> it would be woth something
[06:59] <sebsebseb> there's a market for Ubuntu pro 5's a global one of some sort
[06:59] <sebsebseb> espically since out of stock from the manufacter
[06:59] <sebsebseb> fw190d13: morning
[06:59] <fw190d13> Are there any hints to connect PIA VPN on ubuntu touch?
[06:59] <sebsebseb> fw190d13: what's PIAA ?
[06:59] <sebsebseb> cc: I suggest having another device
[06:59] <sebsebseb> cc: ideally not an Iphone :d h eh heh
[07:00] <sebsebseb> cc: for wechat for now and things like that
[07:00] <sebsebseb> then use Ubuntu touch your pro 5, where you can :) or sell it for some extra money
[07:00] <fw190d13> Private Internet Acces VPN https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/
[07:00] <cc> ah
[07:00] <cc> you're right
[07:00] <sebsebseb> cc: look into the Jolla phone
[07:00] <sebsebseb> cc: I think can still buy that :d
[07:00] <cc> i have two phones,one is ubuntu,and the other is iphone
[07:01] <cc> :o
[07:01] <sebsebseb> cc: why is Apple so popular in China?
[07:01] <sebsebseb> cc: well not just china, but yes why in china/
[07:01] <cc> easy to use
[07:01] <cc> maybe
[07:01] <sebsebseb> cc: I  think peopel genreally don't know much abou this kind of stuff, so go for the big things thinking it's good
[07:02] <cc> yeah
[07:02] <sebsebseb> cc: what do you use your pro 5 for?
[07:02] <cc> a little things
[07:02] <sebsebseb> such as?
[07:03] <cc> just strange it
[07:03] <cc> so i have buy one
[07:03] <sebsebseb> what do you mean
[07:03] <sebsebseb> just strange it?
[07:03] <cc> and iphone is the company give us
[07:03] <cc> yes
[07:03] <sebsebseb> what do you mean it's strange?
[07:03] <cc> just strange
[07:03] <sebsebseb> differnet ?
[07:03] <sebsebseb> different something different,  special unique, not what everyone else has?
[07:03] <cc> curious
[07:04] <sebsebseb> cc: yes Ubuntu Touch is interesting
[07:04] <cc> no,be curious on ubuntu phone
[07:04] <sebsebseb> differnet
[07:04] <sebsebseb> something only mostly those of us in the know have for now
[07:04] <sebsebseb> fw190d13: congratluations your  in the know whoever you are :d
[07:05] <sebsebseb> it seems
[07:05] <fw190d13> I don't understand
[07:05] <sebsebseb> fw190d13: see above :d
[07:05] <fw190d13> not a native speaker here
[07:06] <sebsebseb> fw190d13: oh  wehre you from?
[07:06] <fw190d13> POland
[07:06] <fw190d13> Poland
[07:06] <sebsebseb> cc: yes having somethign diffenret is interesting makes us curious
[07:06] <sebsebseb> cc: but with Ubuntu Touch got to accept really what it is
[07:06] <sebsebseb> or what it is for now
[07:06] <sebsebseb> or going to be disapoinated yeah
[07:06] <sebsebseb> cc: and becaues of the apps situation it's not ready for the main streame the general public really
[07:06] <sebsebseb> however as an OS, it's rather intersting
[07:07] <sebsebseb> the way it's developed, how it works etc
[07:07] <sebsebseb> what it can actsaully do now, and coudn't say  a year ago etc
[07:07] <cc> :p
[07:07]  * sebsebseb keeps the BQ 4.5 ithat thought had lost before, intengionlyu on a old 4.10 version, since don't really use that properly anymore
[07:07] <sebsebseb> but that way can see prorgress better as well
[07:08] <sebsebseb> when keeping the MX 4 and tablet up to date
[07:09] <sebsebseb> cc: I use my Ubuntu tablet for most things insteda of using a computer now, so emai web browsing listening to much and such
[07:09] <sebsebseb> altougho n a computer ight now
[07:09] <cc> that sounds great
[07:09] <sebsebseb> cc: then if I do want some Android apps on occasioan, well I do actsaully have other devices can use for that so
[07:10] <sebsebseb> plus I do hae an ipad air since got chepa,but that's broekn a bit, so don't really use that, and never used apps on that actsullly since.... issues with the apple account and.........
[07:10] <sebsebseb> cc: I have quite a few devices now it turns out
[07:10] <sebsebseb> cc: differnet device for differrent things basically
[09:24] <darkeye> Hey all
[09:25] <darkeye> Anybody  still have black and white emoji in his keyboard even after  OTA-13?
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[09:58] <mcphail> magdalena: I presume your offer is genuine as you have a canonical cloak, but please don't post shortened URLs on an IRC channel if your business is legitimate
[09:59] <magdalena> mcphail I'm sorry, here is the full one: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeAFDG8urLkrJuOYPXd-Ga-OcyFXuyfyGhVxsN2z3z2TTXmcg/viewform
[09:59] <mcphail> magdalena: Thanks!
[11:03] <morsnowski> hey guys, is there any apps for the ubuntu phone that enable watching 3d movies or any vr games?
[11:11] <popey> morsnowski: not that I'm aware of
[11:49] <alci63> Hi. I have a problem with system-settings crashing on my Aquaris E4.5. https://askubuntu.com/questions/827747/system-settings-wont-start-on-aquaris-e4-5 Any idea ?
[11:51] <jgdx> alci63, you can't launch system settings like that on the phone. What is in ~/.cache/upstart/application-legacy-ubuntu-system-settings-.log ?
[12:01] <mardy> jgdx: hi! Is there any documentation for the process of snappyfying unity8? Are you following some checklist, or how do you know what needs to be changed?
[12:01] <mardy> jgdx: (I'm asking because I have to do the same for online accounts)
[12:06] <jgdx> mardy, hey, my approach has been to create a snap of system settings that runs confined. That takes care of the lower level stuff like paths and interfaces.
[12:07] <jgdx> mardy, as for having USS running in unity8: the snappyfying u8 work had some issues, so I think we're making apps run on a normal u8 session.
[12:17] <Mirv> oSoMoN: if I'll do an MP to add user-agent exception, is there a possibility to have the real Oxide's Chromium version number embedded in that exception? if not, can I file a feature wish bug for that? that'd be useful since otherwise of course strings get updated and anyway don't reflect the engine version in use.
[12:32] <alci63> jgdx, there are a lot of QIODevice::read: Called with MaxSize < 0 , and a few warnings about deprecated Page.title and Page.flickable
[12:34] <jgdx> alci63, could I have a look, please?
[12:41] <oSoMoN> Mirv, yes, see https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/webbrowser-app/trunk/view/head:/src/Ubuntu/Web/ua-overrides-mobile.js.in
[12:42] <oSoMoN> Mirv, the @UBUNTU_VERSION@ and @CHROMIUM_VERSION@ tokens are replaced by the corresponding versions
[12:42] <oSoMoN> Mirv, it’s currently done at build time, but with https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/fix-chromiumVersion-1599695/+merge/303852 the chromium version number will be replaced at runtime
[12:44] <alci63> jdgx, here is an extract of tje log http://pastebin.com/BEkCaQTN
[12:45] <jgdx> mardy, your comment doesn't make sense to me: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23215677/ That path is never relative to the manifest of the .settings, it's the absolute path to where the manifests were installed.
[12:45] <jgdx> we could change it to be relative to where the manifest file was _found_, but that's not happening right now
[12:49] <mardy> jgdx: yes, sorry, I didn't explain myself properly: what I mean is that we should remember what was the xdg directory were we found the manifest
[12:49] <jgdx> alci63, is the system changed in any way? Was it made writable? If so, what else did you do to it? :)
[12:49] <mardy> jgdx: then we'll look for the plugin on the path based on the same xdg directory
[12:50] <mardy> jgdx: for example, if the plugin was found somewhere under /usr/local/, the plugin should also be searched in there
[12:50] <jgdx> mardy, thanks, it's what I figured, but it took a while.
[12:50] <mardy> jgdx: I'm not proposing to change any paths
[12:55] <alci63> jdgx, no I didn't change anything and the code system is not read/write.
[12:55] <alci63> co_r_e system
[13:02] <alci63> Sorry, I must leave... bye
[13:23] <Mirv> oSoMoN: ok, sounds great!
[13:36] <Mirv> oSoMoN: darn, even with full Chrome string I can't get to other than unsupported page. seems correctly typed since I can see the correct user-agent if I copy paste that for whatismyuseragent.net - either I'm doing something not completely correct with the string or they are using some advanced browser detection mechanisms
[13:37] <Mirv> (full Chrome Mobile string)
[13:39] <Mirv> I got a reply from my bank that they offically won't support a browser that has <1% market share, and that includes anything with Chromium too
[13:39] <Mirv> (instead of Chrome)
[13:45] <oSoMoN> Mirv, check network traffic with e.g. wireshark, you might need to add more than one UA override as they might be doing requests to various domains
[14:22] <Mirv> oSoMoN: yeah, I collected some, will try over the weekend or something
[14:22] <Mirv> oSoMoN: with httpfox
[21:34] <matv1> hi can anyone confirm webapps crashing after following an external link that opens in the webapp oxide container, and then returning to the webapp itself
[21:35] <matv1> webapp crashes a lot upon returning
[21:36] <matv1> I cant believe that there is no bug for that. It happens to me on both phone and tablet very often
[21:39] <matv1> I am assuming that I would expect that to be filed against webapps-core. Is that correct?
[22:06] <liam_> hi
[22:06] <Guest82827> is ubuntu touch coming to the nexus 6p if no why?
[22:07] <popey> because someone needs to do the porting work
[22:08] <Guest82827> popey, so there isn't any reason why it shouldn't work though right?
[22:09] <popey> that's impossible to say withought someone looking into it
[22:09] <popey> i doubt anyone has looked at the 6p
[22:11] <Guest82827> popey, is ubuntu touch still built around android 4.4
[22:13] <popey> There's work ongoing to move to a newer version
[22:13] <Guest82827> ok
[22:14] <k1l_> there were issue with binary blobs on the nexus 6 (not 6p). so that there is no port.
[22:14] <Guest82827> so that is the reason devlopment isnt happening bc 4.4 is not avalible on 6p
[22:15] <popey> the 6p isn't a target right now
[22:16] <k1l_> Guest82827: maybe ubports.com knows some details. or someone on xda
[22:17] <k1l_> https://forums.ubports.com/topic/25/flashing-ubuntu-touch-on-nexus-6p/6  that sounds like the older android base is an issue, yes
[22:25] <Guest82827> i guess i'll have to wait