[00:00] <loon00533> glitchd: yes it helped thanks!
[00:00] <loon00533> glitchd: bye and thanks again for the help!
[00:00] <glitchd> loon00533, good=)
[00:01] <Bashing-om> en1gma: Yeah .. still araound .. here and there .
[00:02] <en1gma> i joined #grub :)
[00:02] <en1gma> maybe someone there help out
[00:02] <glitchd> en1gma, what are you tying to accomplish?
[00:03] <Bashing-om> en1gma: Yeah #grub is a good thought .
[00:04] <glitchd> Bashing-om, whats en1gma trying to do?
[00:04] <en1gma> glitchd bad or incomplete install of grub
[00:04] <en1gma> during ubuntu update
[00:04] <glitchd> srysry
[00:04] <en1gma> :P
[00:04] <glitchd> Bashing-om, sry didnt notice he replied..
[00:05] <glitchd> en1gma, have you tried to reinstall grub from a live cd?
[00:05] <Bashing-om> glitchd: Raid arrays and properly setup/re-install grub .
[00:05] <karstensrage> how do you make group permissions to reset
[00:06] <Ben64> karstensrage: can you explain in more detail
[00:06] <karstensrage> its for the mysql user
[00:06] <karstensrage> so there is no login
[00:06] <karstensrage> there is a cert i want the mysql user to be able to read
[00:06] <karstensrage> i added the group owner of ssl-cert to the cert
[00:07] <karstensrage> and added the mysql to the ssl-cert group
[00:07] <karstensrage> but it still cant read it
[00:07] <glitchd> en1gma, maybe one of these will help, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID , http://askubuntu.com/questions/43036/how-do-i-install-grub-on-a-raid-system-installation
[00:08] <en1gma> i dont want it on my soft raid. thats my 500GB windows os
[00:08] <en1gma> :)
[00:08] <karstensrage> im doing sudo -u mysql cat /etc/ssl/private/keyfile to test
[00:08] <karstensrage> it says permission denied
[00:09] <RavinduL> Hi! Where can I find the default key bindings for Ctrl + Super + Left and Right within Compiz?
[00:09] <en1gma> i originally has this 40GB ssd hooked up to my motherboards sata port to get ubuntu desktop 16.10 x64 installed. since then i moved the drive to a usb to sata adapter and i did have ubuntu updates disabled
[00:10] <RavinduL> Defaults for Ctrl + Super + Up and Down are within General Options.
[00:10] <en1gma> i accidently did sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade and it did an upgrade except i got warning about grub not being installed correctly
[00:10] <RavinduL> Ctrl + Super + Left & Right?
[00:10] <en1gma> thats where im at now
[00:10] <en1gma> #grub isnt helping. everyone there is sleeping
[00:10] <Ben64> en1gma: #ubuntu+1 for 16.10 support until release
[00:10] <en1gma> i mean 16.04
[00:10] <en1gma> im 16.04
[00:11] <glitchd> en1gma, have you tried to manually restart the grub setup?
[00:12] <en1gma> glitchd not yet. i not sure how
[00:13] <en1gma> can i tell grub where to install too?
[00:13] <en1gma> does it goto /dev/sda or /dev/sda1
[00:13] <k1l> sda
[00:13] <en1gma> sudo grub-install /dev/sda ?
[00:14] <RavinduL> nvm found it within Window Management -> grid
[00:14] <jesuslovesyouthi> I'm trying to select / install QT Creator on Ubuntu 14.04 but their site is confusing. Does anyone have more familiarity with it? I only ask bc one of the options in a required set of staps to get the dl is to use for open source software development, which is fine, but I don't know if there's more than one version of the ide and if my answers there will effect the outcome / product I get.
[00:14] <glitchd> en1gma, are you on a raid?
[00:15] <glitchd> en1gma,  sry just getting all turned around in what you actually want to do
[00:16] <en1gma> i have soft-raid hooked up and an extra 240GB alone. i then have this 40GB external with usb to sata adapter that ubuntu is on
[00:16] <en1gma> http://pastebin.ca/3720790  and http://pastebin.ca/3720784
[00:18] <lordcirth> en1gma, you need grub on the harddrive which is supposed to be bootable, and usually you'll want it on the other raid drive as well, so if a drive fails it will boot without a liveusb.
[00:18] <lordcirth> Assuming your root/ boot is raided
[00:19] <glitchd> en1gma, this is above my pay grade, sry..
[00:19] <en1gma> i try not to let ubuntu ever touch my soft-raid with windows.
[00:20] <en1gma> i install them completly seperate. by that i mean when i installed windows only the 3 120GB drives were hooked up. when i installed ubuntu only the 1 40GB ssd was hooked up
[00:20] <en1gma> i dont want them to know about eachother at all
[00:20] <en1gma> linux is always trying to fight for control
[00:20] <lordcirth> en1gma, oh, you have Windows soft raid, and then Linux on the small drive?
[00:20] <en1gma> correct
[00:21] <en1gma> but the small drive has since been moved to usb to sata adapter
[00:21] <lordcirth> Oh ok.  So what's the problem?
[00:21] <en1gma> ubuntu updated when drive was not native sata and was in usb to sata adapter mode
[00:22] <en1gma> in my computers bios i have the usb to sata drive showing up on a specific usb port. from there i select emulat hdd
[00:22] <lordcirth> Update or distro upgrade?
[00:22] <en1gma> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:23] <lordcirth> ok.  And it updated grub and broke something?
[00:23] <kirkwing> gekki
[00:23] <kirkwing> Hello**
[00:23] <en1gma> it tried to update grub
[00:23] <en1gma> partial upgrade im thinking. havent rebooted yet to check damage to soft-raid
[00:23] <en1gma> windows OS*
[00:23] <kirkwing> I don
[00:24] <kirkwing> I don't know wtf this is - it oppened by mistake on my raspberry pi...
[00:24] <en1gma> during the upgrade it said a warning about how i might need to run grub again or something like that
[00:24] <lordcirth> en1gma, those Windows drives show they have partition tables.  So grub should have installed itself normally and not overwritten anything important.
[00:24] <siva_machina> kirkwing, by this you mean irc?
[00:24] <lordcirth> At worst it overwrote bootmgr and you'll have to fix it.
[00:25] <kirkwing> The whole application xD
[00:25] <TheNH813> Audio dead after the last update. Where should I start troubleshooting?
[00:25] <TheNH813> Pulse and ALSA are running and all devices hsow up.
[00:25] <lordcirth> kirkwing, this chat?  this is IRC.  Specifically, the #ubuntu support channel.
[00:26] <TheNH813> I first noticed something was wrong when there was no sound effect when changing volume.
[00:26] <TheNH813> The correct output device is selected, and it appears to be working. Any application trying to output audio, freezes as if it's not able to write any audio to the buffer.
[00:27] <en1gma> lordcirth thank goodness
[00:27] <en1gma> is there a grub command i can try to install to the usb to sata drive on /dev/sda
[00:27] <lordcirth> en1gma, literally grub-install /dev/sda
[00:28] <TheNH813> You mean install grub?
[00:28] <TheNH813> Yeah what he said.
[00:28] <jesuslovesyouthi> does anyone know the best route to install the latest version of QT Creator on ubuntu 14.04?
[00:28] <TheNH813> Yes, I think
[00:28] <TheNH813> LEt me get the info
[00:29] <jesuslovesyouthi> I'm on thier website and dl the .run file they pawn off on you - but don't know what to do with a .run file (never seen one).
[00:29] <TheNH813> You execute it. IT's a self extracting shell script
[00:30] <TheNH813> chmod a+x <file>
[00:30] <lordcirth> jesuslovesyouthi, isn't it in 14.04 repos?
[00:30] <lordcirth> It's in 16.04
[00:30] <TheNH813> Then run it: ./something.run
[00:30] <en1gma> lordcirth here is something of interest http://pastebin.ca/3720794
[00:30] <TheNH813> If it asks for root, give it permissions
[00:30] <en1gma> i found it in my term
[00:30] <lordcirth> en1gma, looks ok?
[00:31] <lowin> Where can I download ubuntu for phone? I can't see any download link or a source location on the website.
[00:31] <en1gma> lordcirth http://pastebin.ca/3720795
[00:31] <jesuslovesyouthi> lordcirth: Yes but - even if the versioning is different for the ubuntu packages (don't know if it is or not) I highly highly doubt it's the latest version. Plus, I think I'd feel more satisfied getting something like this straight from the source. Just, in this case, they use some odd way of installing that I've never seen and don't know how to do.
[00:31] <en1gma> nope its not :(
[00:32] <TheNH813> lowin: That's quite hard to do, if you mean install it to a phone.
[00:32] <Bashing-om> en1gma: As you run ubuntu as stand alone, and DO NOT want ubuntu aware of Windows raid . Then why not disable 30_os-prober so that grub will not hunt ?
[00:32] <lowin> TheNH813, hmm, why though? Wasn't it made to run on phones?
[00:32] <lowin> I'm just curious to try it
[00:32] <TheNH813> lowin: Specific hardware, yes. Let me give you a link to supported chipsets.
[00:33] <lordcirth> jesuslovesyouthi, a .run file is just an executable that unpacks itself and installs.  However, you won't be able to remove it easily, unlike packages.  Package versioning should be the same, take a look.
[00:33] <en1gma> Bashing-om never used to have a problem with either windows or linux os as long as i installed them completely seperate with no drives attached.
[00:33] <en1gma> i dont mind after i have booted into linux that it (sees) the soft-raid i just dont want it altering the bootloader
[00:33] <en1gma> and i never knew about that idea :)
[00:35] <TheNH813> Oh no. My lights just dimmed badly. If I disappear, blame the thunderstorm.
[00:35] <TheNH813> lowin: http://lifehacker.com/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-on-your-android-device-1577325241
[00:35] <jesuslovesyouthi> lordcirth: How hard?
[00:36] <TheNH813> lowin: Your device may be supported. If it's not supported things like WiFi and the Touchscreen may not work, or it might not boot.
[00:36] <jesuslovesyouthi> Maybe it is worth it
[00:36] <zartarr> hi guys have a european keyboard and want to remap some keys
[00:36] <zartarr> how would i go about doing this?
[00:36] <Bashing-om> en1gma: Mind ya, as we are going to install grub dis-regaeding the Windows array . You can then boot ubuntu by selecting in bios to boot the ubuntu drive when 30_os-prober is disabled .
[00:36] <lordcirth> jesuslovesyouthi, depends on the software.
[00:36] <TheNH813> lowin: If you choose to experiment, I'd make a backup of the ROM currently on your phone so you can restore if it goes wrong.
[00:36] <RLShiftyDoggit> zartarr i believe its editing locales
[00:37] <en1gma> Bashing-om thats already how i boot now
[00:37] <lowin> TheNH813, ah, Well my nexus is not on the list.. but I guess I can always try porting it
[00:37] <TheNH813> lowin: It also needs to be rooted.
[00:37] <en1gma> for some reason in my bios i do have two entries for ubuntu though. both work
[00:37] <RLShiftyDoggit> lowin im trying to port ubuntu-touch its not that easy
[00:37] <zartarr> rlshifty how would you go editing locales....
[00:37] <Bashing-om> en1gma: K, are you booted ubuntu presently ?
[00:37] <en1gma> yes
[00:37] <TheNH813> lowin: Which Nexus?
[00:38] <lowin> RLShiftyDoggit, Well.. touch isn't exactly on my priority
[00:38] <lowin> TheNH813, 5x.
[00:38] <RLShiftyDoggit> zartarr i dont remember honestly
[00:38] <lowin> I already tried gentoo on my Chinese tablet once. It was glorious. except I couldn't get X to display colors correctly
[00:39] <Bashing-om> en1gma: pastebim ' sudo fdisk -lu ' we identify the ubuntu drive and install grub to the MBR of that drive , and disable 30_os-prober. No more problems then with updating grub messing up .
[00:39] <RLShiftyDoggit> last time i set locales was when i was running arch
[00:39] <lowin> and I didn't have the source to linux on that.. So I guess it may be a little easier with a nexus
[00:39] <JohnnyL> what's the secret to simply add a website to these damn search engines. I got google.com but it's a big mystery otherwise.
[00:39] <TheNH813> lowin: There's an unofficial port. The writer of the article mentioned that the display crashed often though. https://2buntu.com/articles/1489/installing-ubuntu-touch-on-a-nexus-5/
[00:40] <en1gma> http://pastebin.ca/3720796
[00:40] <shout-user> is anyone handy with iptables ?
[00:41] <shout-user> !ask
[00:41] <jesuslovesyouthi> If the versioning between ubuntu packaging and upstream for qt creator is the same, then the ubuntu version in software center is 3.0.1-0ubuntu4 . The current upstream version is 5.7 I believe (two major revisions and a shitload of other stuff later). So I'm really not seeing any easy to follow instruction on installing it via the vendor site or whether there is a 3rd party repo avialable?
[00:41] <jesuslovesyouthi> ^ Any help at would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
[00:41] <__panda> Anyone here use SDL with codeblocks on ubuntu ?
[00:41] <lordcirth> jesuslovesyouthi, then go ahead and use the .run file you downloaded.
[00:43] <lowin> TheNH813, sadly, nexus 5 is not the same as 5x. thanks for the links though. Now atleast I have an idea where to start
[00:43] <garrie> \nick gaz
[00:43] <Bashing-om> en1gma: Just checking " /dev/sda1           2048 70314547 70312500 33.5G 83 Linux " that drive is on sata port 0 ?
[00:44] <en1gma> do i do a lsusb ?
[00:44] <en1gma> that is the correct drive i want it on /dev/sda though
[00:45] <lordcirth> en1gma, iirc you just pastebinned the output of installing on sda
[00:45] <lordcirth> Now you just need to make sure that BIOS boots that.
[00:45] <en1gma> yes that is correct but i dont see the port
[00:45] <en1gma> what i have been doing is just selecting "ubuntu" in my bios section
[00:46] <jesuslovesyouthi> If anyone other than lordcirth can help me I would appreciate it
[00:46] <jesuslovesyouthi> ^ thanks
[00:46] <en1gma> i know that i had to tell my bios in the usb settings on a certain port that it was to emulate an hdd
[00:46] <TheNH813> lowin: Well, good luck. Hope you can get it running.
[00:47] <lordcirth> jesuslovesyouthi, "<TheNH813> You execute it. IT's a self extracting shell script" " chmod a+x <file>"
[00:47] <Bashing-om> en1gma: Ypu are mixing EFI/MBR booting .. looks like booting Windows in EFI mode, and ubuntu as MBR . One can do this but the UEFI will not see ubuntu to boot it .
[00:48] <en1gma> yea i had to do windows 10 that way for some reason with that soft-raid and also i had problems with linux trying to install in uefi mode so dropped it down to secure os = no or off
[00:49] <en1gma> its been working great for the last few months
[00:49] <en1gma> just select windows or ubuntu in bios
[00:49] <TheNH813> jesuslovesyouthi: Ok, mark the .run file as executable. Either type the command "chmod a+x file_name_here.run" or go right click properties on the file and then go to permissions and make sure executable is checked
[00:50] <TheNH813> jesuslovesyouthi: Then, using the terminal, type the path of the .run file, adding a . before the slash. Like ./filenamehere.run
[00:51] <TheNH813> If it says it needs to be run as root, use the same command, and type sudo before it, like sudo ./filenamehere.run
[00:51] <TheNH813> But if I remember correctly it will give a popup asking for admin password
[00:52] <Bashing-om> en1gma: And it will continue to boot just fine, so long when booting ubuntu in the forware you choose to boot the ubuntu drive . To install grub to that 1st hard drive ' sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ; sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda ' .
[00:53] <TheNH813> Well, I'm gonna reboot and see if reverting the kernel fixes my audio
[00:54] <en1gma> http://pastebin.ca/3720798
[00:56] <Bashing-om> en1gma: Ouch .. mixed MBR/GPT partition table .. looks like . what results ' sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda ' ?
[00:58] <en1gma> http://pastebin.ca/3720799
[01:04] <zartarr> hey guys i just downloaded a .deb from synology
[01:04] <zartarr> how do i install it
[01:04] <zartarr> super newbie question
[01:04] <RLShiftyDoggit> you can install .deb files via software center
[01:04] <RLShiftyDoggit> as well
[01:05] <zartarr> so just open via software center?
[01:05] <Bashing-om> en1gma: Well ! That do say that GPT is not present . Humm .. not sure what to think ,,, want to try and purge grub and re-install ?? see what that gets us ?
[01:05] <RLShiftyDoggit> zartarr yes
[01:05] <en1gma> lets do it
[01:06] <io> is it possible for a hdd to not be COMPATIBLE with linux???
[01:07] <io> http://www.wdc.com/global/products/specs/?driveID=1261&language=1
[01:07] <RLShiftyDoggit> i dont think thats possible man
[01:07] <io> k must be a marketing thing then
[01:07] <RLShiftyDoggit> considering linux formats and sets up the drive for it
[01:07] <lordcirth> io, many companies only say Windows/Mac because they can't be bothered to test/Linux users can figure it out
[01:08] <lordcirth> io, Basically, that's only there for people who don't understand how hard drives work.
[01:08] <en1gma> Bashing-om what commands should i do?
[01:08] <io> thanks cirth and shifty
[01:08] <Bashing-om> en1gma: ' sudo apt-get remove --purge grub grub-pc grub-common ; sudo mv /boot/grub /boot/grub_backup ; sudo mkdir /boot/grub ; sudo apt-get install grub-pc grub-common ; sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda ; sudo update-grub ' .
[01:08] <RLShiftyDoggit> np man
[01:08] <zartarr> what if i don't have software center...
[01:09] <lordcirth> zartarr, are you on a different spin of Ubuntu?
[01:09] <RLShiftyDoggit> install it...
[01:09] <zartarr> i think this thing is called Trisquel
[01:09] <zartarr> it came with my laptop
[01:09] <lordcirth> zartarr, Trisquel isn't Ubuntu, and is not supported here (as cool as it is)
[01:09] <lordcirth> zartarr, however, I think it comes with Synaptic Package Manager?  It's been a while
[01:09] <zartarr> Trisquel chat is also dead
[01:10] <en1gma> Bashing-om cool looks like we getting somewhere. i have a grub menu up asking me where to install.
[01:10] <en1gma> do i do /dev/sda or dev/sda
[01:10] <en1gma> do i do /dev/sda or dev/sda1 *
[01:10] <Bashing-om> en1gma: sda !
[01:10] <lordcirth> en1gma, for grub install?  Always the drive
[01:10] <lordcirth> Writing to a partition could nuke your filesystem.
[01:10] <zartarr> I think it has synaptic package manager... when i right click the .deb from synology i don't see an option to "open with"
[01:11] <en1gma> omg. i think you got it. do i need to update-grub or reconfigure anything before i reboot?
[01:11] <lordcirth> zartarr, PM'd.
[01:12] <Bashing-om> en1gma: Well IF ' ls -al /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ' says it is disabled . then cheap insurance to see what ' sudo update-grub ' says .
[01:13] <en1gma> "-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11692 Jul 22 19:09 /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober"
[01:14] <en1gma> wait. didnt do command correct
[01:14] <en1gma> yea i did. is it disabled
[01:14] <Bashing-om> en1gma: Right ,, not dis abled UN-good .
[01:15] <en1gma> its ok isnt it. i never had it disabled before
[01:15] <en1gma> i mean i have booted before from the ubuntu bl menu
[01:17] <en1gma> when i didnt boot from bios
[01:18] <Bashing-om> en1gma: What ya want " -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11692 Apr  6  2015 /media/sysop/ubie1604/etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ' . by running : ' sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ' .
[01:18] <en1gma> what?
[01:19] <en1gma> i would prefer it not to show up the windows drive but so far it always works.
[01:19] <en1gma> i always have the bios set to default to windows boot drive and when i want to boot linux i usually just boot to bios and select ubuntu
[01:20] <Bashing-om> en1gma: We do want to disable 30_os-prober >>  -rw-r--r- . that is done with the command ' sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ' .
[01:20] <en1gma> ok will do it now
[01:20] <en1gma> done
[01:20] <en1gma> 'sudo update-grub' ?
[01:21] <Bashing-om> en1gma: Be aware as said . will have to choose the 1st hard drive to boot when wanting to boot ubuntu .
[01:21] <en1gma> by that you mean when i bios i select "ubuntu" ?
[01:22] <en1gma> i thought that command just disables the search for windows drives
[01:22] <en1gma> so i would have to either select the windows drive from bios or disconnect the ubuntu drive
[01:22] <zither> I have an old dos program witch uses paralel port to communicate some external hardware. Originally it used a MosChip PCI card to do this. I migrating this stuff to Ubuntu 16.04 with dosemu. My problem is: the old DOS program has fixed (non standard) i/o addresses to the paralell port, so it cant't open the port.
[01:23] <zither> Is there any way to change the i/o ports in linux, or "redirect" direct port access in dosemu?
[01:23] <Bashing-om> sudormrf: Yeah go ahead now ' sudo update-grub ' . No I do not expect that option to be usable in the firmware boot menu . I do expect that choosing to boot the 1st hard drive to boot directly to ubuntu .
[01:24] <Bashing-om> en1gma: ** sorry sudormrf :(
[01:24] <en1gma> whats that
[01:25] <en1gma> what does that mean? is that a command?
[01:26] <lordcirth> en1gma, no, he just highlighted the wrong person
[01:27] <en1gma> ok so try the 'sudo update-grub'?
[01:27] <en1gma> rebooting. brb
[01:28] <Bashing-om> en1gma: No that is not a command .. is me not paying proper attention . Look I do not know your EFI firmware, and each and every manufacturer implements it differenly . BUT windows is EFI, ubuntu is MBR the 2 are incompatible to boot from the same saource. AND Windows does not speak grub . So ya want to boot ubuntu then in the bios boot options chhose to boot the 1st hard drive as the 1st boot option ,
[01:30] <mamooth_ponyboy> zither, is the source code available? - I mean, trying recompiling dosemu w/ your ports hard coded?...
[01:30] <en1gma> lord4163 you did great! thank-you so much. saved my butt. is there a way i can prevent this in the future so i can set auto update to = on
[01:31] <en1gma> wrong person.
[01:31] <en1gma> Bashing-om thank-you so much
[01:34] <mylisto> Does anyone know of a way to change the frame rate (FPS) of an mkv file in Ubuntu?
[01:34] <mamooth_ponyboy> mylisto, ffmpeg
[01:35] <Bashing-om> en1gma: Great ! .. as 30_os-prober is now diabled .. and you did make a note of this for future reference, right ? - then yes keep this system updated !
[01:40] <mamooth_ponyboy> bye
[01:42] <en1gma> so you think the os-prober was what was giving grub the problem?
[01:42] <en1gma> since it was picking up the soft raid?
[01:44] <Bashing-om> en1gma: That is it's function .. to find and configure and chainload .
[01:46] <en1gma> ok. so i noted everything in a txt file. well basically i just copied and pasted to a txt file :)
[01:47] <Bashing-om> en1gma: Good practice ! Took me a few broken systems to learn to keep a changelog . Sure helps in a new install too !
[01:50] <cef> Anyone know if there is a PPA available for the Zstandard compression algorithm at all?
[01:50] <mylisto> mamooth_ponyboy: How can I use ffmpeg to change FPS in a mkv file?
[01:53] <Guest68290> join
[01:54] <vamadir> what is official chinese ubuntu chanel?
[01:54] <en1gma> Bashing-om just want to thank-you again.
[01:54] <Bashing-om> en1gma: Glad it worked out, pleased to assist, just gladder was not a direct RAID issue :)
[02:00] <jswarts> is there a better channel to get some help with installing an amd driver in ubuntu 16.04?
[02:00] <jswarts> or anyone that has gotten the amdgpu-pro drivers to work with a 260x?
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[02:01] <hin> asd
[02:01] <hin> asd
[02:01] <hin> asd
[02:01] <hin> asd
[02:01] <RLShiftyDoggit> j what do you need help with installin
[02:01] <rizzo_> jswarts: have your searched online?
[02:01] <rizzo_> jswarts: linuxquestions.org
[02:01] <jswarts> http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx
[02:01] <jswarts> yeah
[02:01] <jswarts> I went through several attempts here
[02:01] <seed_sy> sdfsd
[02:01] <seed_sy> fasdf
[02:01] <seed_sy> adfsaf
[02:01] <rizzo_> irc isn't what it used to banks thanks to social media
[02:02] <jswarts> when I install that driver i just get a black screen with a mouse pointer
[02:02] <seed_sy> can someone tell me what this is?
[02:02] <en1gma> no doubt. in the past i have had grub mess up many of my raids. usually i just make sure anytime im installing linux i do not have any drives except the drive i want linux installed on.
[02:03] <vamadir> any body from canonical here?
[02:03] <en1gma> some distros other than linux did not have this same problem. this was around the time device mapper was created and that os was slackware 9 or something
[02:03] <en1gma> just glad grub/ubuntu is smart enough not to write to the raid dev/mapper
[02:06] <jswarts> has anyone here had any luck with the amdgpu-pro drivers on 16.04?
[02:07] <RLShiftyDoggit> jswarts go check AMDs website
[02:08] <RLShiftyDoggit> i stick with intel bc it just works
[02:08] <jswarts> talking about a radeon gpu
[02:08] <jswarts> I have an intel cpu as well
[02:09] <Bashing-om> jswarts: That driver does not support your card, right ? then it is what AMD gracously provides in the kernel for a driver .
[02:09] <jswarts> well, it is listed in their supported cards
[02:09] <jswarts> which is why I am confused
[02:09] <RLShiftyDoggit> amd should have drivers on amds site
[02:09] <jswarts> wondering if I am doing something wrong
[02:09] <cef> Is there a PPA available for the Zstandard compression tools? Just prefer to use a PPA than having to build the source myself.
[02:12] <jswarts> I just need to buy an nvidia card
[02:13] <jswarts> lol
[02:13] <RLShiftyDoggit> make sure its an older Nvidia card
[02:13] <jswarts> oh?
[02:13] <RLShiftyDoggit> so you can use the linux drivers
[02:14] <OerHeks> newer nvidia also, there is an offical driver ppa with the 370 driver
[02:14] <OerHeks> false info, RLShiftyDoggit
[02:14] <RLShiftyDoggit> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[02:14] <lordcirth> 16.04 has up to date drivers now
[02:14] <lordcirth> 367
[02:15] <Bashing-om> jswarts: Are you aware of the "Graphics and Display" change in : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes ?
[02:15] <lordcirth> They worked with my 1060
[02:15] <RLShiftyDoggit> no nvidia still has them listed
[02:15] <lordcirth> Although when I first got it I needed the ppa
[02:15] <jswarts> Bashing-om: yeah
[02:15] <OerHeks> and the amd site ..pff .. beta
[02:15] <RLShiftyDoggit> they are legacy drivers
[02:15] <jswarts> I read through that stuff and the blog post
[02:15] <jswarts> apparently to get full support you need to install this amdgpu-pro driver
[02:16] <jswarts> kind of the only way to do it in 16.04 right now
[02:16] <jswarts> with the xorg version change
[02:16] <jswarts> since my card was listed
[02:16] <jswarts> thought I would be covered
[02:16] <RLShiftyDoggit> you should be
[02:16] <RLShiftyDoggit> what card is it
[02:16] <jswarts> my r7 260x is listed in there
[02:16] <jswarts> might be a bug I guess
[02:17] <jswarts> wonder where I could go report that
[02:18] <RLShiftyDoggit> are you using 16.04
[02:18] <jswarts> yes
[02:18] <RLShiftyDoggit> http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/linux
[02:18] <RLShiftyDoggit> try using 15.04 drivers
[02:18] <Bashing-om> jswarts: The kernel provided amdgpu driver is the support for the 260x card .
[02:18] <RLShiftyDoggit> they might install
[02:19] <jswarts> I seem to remember trying these as well, but I have been at this for so long I forgot
[02:19] <jswarts> going to give another go
[02:19] <jswarts> file exists in my downloads folder : (
[02:20] <RLShiftyDoggit> try forcing it to install
[02:20] <jswarts> ok
[02:20] <jswarts> why not
[02:21] <jswarts> wait
[02:21] <jswarts> the reason this didn't work was the xorg version change
[02:21] <jswarts> now I remember
[02:21] <RLShiftyDoggit> hmm
[02:22] <jswarts> I'll just have to buy a different card at some point I think, or try a newer version of the pro driver if they release one
[02:22] <OerHeks> thew amdgpu-pro drives on top of amdgpu.
[02:23] <OerHeks> just saying ..
[02:23] <jswarts> OerHeks: what do you mean?
[02:24] <jswarts> is there a way to install that open source driver for 16.04?
[02:25] <jswarts> apparently I can force its use
[02:25] <jswarts> it is installed by default
[02:27] <jswarts> thanks for the help everyone, I am going to do some more reading on it
[02:36] <runningR> I got 6 million problems.
[02:36] <runningR> Sheckles ain't 1.
[02:36] <runningR> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ZF_DipeXA
[02:37] <runningR> The new Hollywood film “Denial” starring Rachel Weisz as Deborah Lipstadt is due to be released. http://DenialTheFIlm.com will release a video series on the film “Denial”, Deborah Lipstadt’s falsehoods, the David Irving / Deborah Lipstadt defamation trial, and the falsehoods of those who made billions believe millions of Jews were gassed in fake shower rooms.
[02:37] <OerHeks> you must be so lonely ...
[02:37] <OerHeks> !ops
[02:37] <lordcirth> !ops
[02:37] <lordcirth> Oh he left
[02:38] <OerHeks> i tried to be nice.
[02:38] <elky> yep, there is sadly no point bothering to ban them, they have a new address every time
[02:39] <lordcirth> Keyword matching bans might save time, if setup correctly
[02:39] <siva_machina> If it is the same guy as last time. I have him set to ignore
[02:39] <elky> lordcirth: it's also a new youtube video every time
[02:39] <lordcirth> Oh really?
[02:39] <elky> yup
[02:46] <mejnour> Hello guys. I'm having trouble with my GPU. I wish to know why my video is tearing so much (even in light tasks like watching movies). I already searched a lot and tested a lot (and undone all deed) and still couldnt find a solution. All I want is to know if my GPUs are running OK. I have a integrated Intel HD 520 and a dedicated NVIDIA 920M. My processor is a Skylake i7 6500U. Thanks in advance!!!
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> mejnour: ubuntu version and driver version?
[02:47] <mejnour> I forgot to mention that I'm running ubuntu 16.04 and "Using NVIDIA binary driver - version 361"
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> mejnour: is your card optimus?
[02:48] <mejnour> How do I know that?
[02:48] <mejnour> lotuspsychje, How can I get that info?
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> mejnour: check the official webpage for your nvidia card if it has optimus technology enabled
[02:50] <mejnour> just a sec lotuspsychje
[02:52] <mejnour> lotuspsychje, I think it does have, yeah...
[02:52] <guest4146> hi
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> mejnour: ok, can you check if nvidia-prime is installed?
[02:52] <mejnour> lotuspsychje, should I just type nvidia-prime in terminal?
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> mejnour: sudo apt install nvidia-prime
[02:53] <guest4146> which channel is the Ubuntu theoretical question discussion?
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> !support | guest4146
[02:53] <OerHeks> skylake .. lots of improvements with kernel 4.8 in Yakkety next month.
[02:53] <mejnour> lotuspsychje, I already have that installed
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> mejnour: ok, did you try other drivers aswell, or other kernels as OerHeks suggests?
[02:54] <guest4146> My question - IS it possible to replace Unity with an alternative desktop environment and uninstall Unity without breaking Ubuntu
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> guest4146: what kind of alternate DE would you try?
[02:55] <OerHeks> !flavors
[02:55] <guest4146> MATE or Xubuntu guest4146
[02:55] <guest4146> MATE or Xubuntu
[02:55] <guest4146> sry... referenced myself
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> guest4146: the cleanest way would be indeed installing the official flavor
[02:56] <OerHeks> install xubuntu-desktop, or mate-desktop, logout, switch, login
[02:56] <mejnour> lotuspsychje, not at all... I just installed ubuntu today's morning and selected the Nvidia drive from the standard pannel. Regarding drivers, that's all I did. I searched specifically for tearing in google and tried creating a 20-intel.conf in usr/shared/X11/d-conf... But that's all
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> guest4146: but not really recommended to purge unity
[02:56] <guest4146> ok
[02:56] <mejnour> And I already removed that archive, lotuspsychje
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> mejnour: can you check in nvidia-settings, if your nvidia card is enabled to performance mode?
[02:57] <guest4146> btw, what GUI is recc for Sys admins using Ubuntu Server (not shell, but a UI)
[02:57] <cash> Hi Everyone
[02:57] <guest4146> recc by*
[02:57] <mejnour> sure, lotuspsychje. Just a sec
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> guest4146: try in #ubuntu-server perhaps
[02:58] <guest4146> ok
[02:58] <guest4146> same irc server?
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> !server | guest4146
[02:58] <Bashing-om> guest4146: Be aware a GUI is not recommended for use on a server . security .
[02:58] <OerHeks> !landscape
[02:59] <mejnour> lotuspsychje, I entered nvidia-settings in terminal. Where should I get that info?
[02:59] <mejnour> Oh I got it
[02:59] <mejnour> yes, it is in performance mode
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> mejnour: in your case perhaps 2 other things: test a latest nvidia driver from official drivers ppa, or a higher kernel
[03:01] <mejnour> lotuspsychje, I know it's boring and all... But could you guide me through that?
[03:01] <guest4146> Bashing-om I know. But is there a preferred environment?
[03:01] <guest4146> other than the shell?
[03:01] <mejnour> Or point me into a tutorial?
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> guest4146: prefered to do what exactly, as most work is done non-GUI on server
[03:02] <lordcirth> guest4146, what do you want from it?  Light? Fancy?
[03:02] <guest4146> something lightweight, but functional for the IT pro lordcirth
[03:03] <mejnour> lotuspsychje, when i close nvidia-settings i get Requires offloading. It's ok, right?
[03:03] <lotuspsychje> mejnour: http://www.howtogeek.com/242045/how-to-get-the-latest-nvidia-amd-or-intel-graphics-drivers-on-ubuntu/
[03:03] <lordcirth> guest4146, openbox & tint2?
[03:04] <guest4146> lordcirth - ok.
[03:04] <mejnour> lotuspsychje, thank you very much.
[03:04] <guest4146> lordcirth have u ever installed a GUI onto Ubuntu Core successfully?
[03:05] <guest4146> without internet issues?
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | mejnour for kernel test
[03:05] <lordcirth> guest4146, I havent used Core
[03:06] <Lewoco> How can I make gnome-terminal use Chromium to open ctrl-clicked hyperlinks instead of Firefox?
[03:06] <Lewoco> I already checked and Chromium is my 'Preferred Application' for opening hyperlinks...
[03:07] <Lewoco> `xdg-settings get default-web-browser` also returns Chromium...
[03:08] <atomic_kitten> hello
[03:08] <atomic_kitten> anyone here?
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> !ask | atomic_kitten
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> Lewoco: did you change to chromium in unity settings/details?
[03:11] <Lewoco> lotuspsychje: What command do I type to run those?
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> Lewoco: its GUI, check unity settings/system/details
[03:13] <Lewoco> lotuspsychje: Hmm, I don't see anything like that in my settings... I'm using XFCE4.
[03:13] <Lewoco> lotuspsychje: If you can tell me the command line program I can start it manually.
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> Lewoco: oh thought your in unity sorry, not sure in xubuntu
[03:14] <Lewoco> Well I'm not using xubuntu. It is Ubuntu, I'm just running XFCE4.
[03:15] <lordcirth> Lewoco, just search for "default" should bring it up?
[03:19] <vices> hello
[03:20] <vices> i've installed Ubuntu onto an external HDD connected by usb, from my Surface pro 2..
[03:20] <vices> and as expected, there's a slight issue
[03:20] <zartarr> guys how do i connect a synology drive as a folder on my desktop?
[03:20] <Bashing-om> Lewoco: Setting > Preferred Applications > WeB Browser preference in the drop down ? . maybe .
[03:21] <vices> it seems the windows boot loader has been erased.  How can I restore the bootloader so that I can choose windows or ubuntu?
[03:25] <zartarr> can someone guide me through this https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/network-file-system.html
[03:25] <zartarr> struggling with connecting my synology drive to the os
[03:26] <th0r> zartarr, do you know the uuid of the drive, and do you know the format of the drive?
[03:27] <zartarr> if uuid is the ip address yes i do
[03:27] <zartarr> format no idea.
[03:27] <th0r> zartarr, no....uuid isn't ip address. Is the drive on another server and you are trying to mount it locally?
[03:28] <zartarr> mount it locally
[03:29] <th0r> zartarr, then it is plugged into another computer somewhere and you want to mount it to your computer, right?
[03:30] <guest4146> just installed MATE desktop on Ubuntu and does not show button to choose DE
[03:30] <guest4146> login screen does not*
[03:30] <zartarr> https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/tutorial/File_Sharing/How_to_access_files_on_Synology_NAS_within_the_local_network_NFS
[03:30] <zartarr> essentially I am on step 4 and stuck
[03:31] <zartarr> Hostname or IP: Enter the IP address of the NFS client which will access the shared folder. You may specify a host in three ways:
[03:31] <th0r> zartarr, checking...give me a sec
[03:32] <zartarr> th0r, to answer your question; my laptop is wifi to my router, and my nas(synology) is hard connected to the same router
[03:32] <guest4146> just installed MATE desktop on Ubuntu and does not show button to choose DE... Ubuntu 16.05
[03:32] <th0r> zartarr, ok....straightforward nfs server...shouldn't be a problem.
[03:32] <guest4146> 16.04*
[03:33] <th0r> zartarr, did you make a mount point for the drive on the local computer?
[03:33] <zartarr> i don't know buddy, i haven't felt this dumb since learning algebra
[03:33] <zartarr> on the linux computer?
[03:33] <zartarr> no
[03:33] <th0r> zartarr, yes, you need a folder to mount the nfs drive to....something like /mnt/<whateveryouwant>
[03:34] <zartarr> so i can create it say on my desktop?
[03:34] <th0r> zartarr, you can mount it to your desktop, but I always mount my server drives to /media. But I think the standard is to mount them to /mnt. It can be anywhere you want it to be really
[03:34] <zartarr> i created a folder on my desktop called synology
[03:35] <th0r> zartarr, ok....do you have a username and password for the nfs server? The synology drive?
[03:36] <zartarr> yes I do, I am IM'ing you
[03:36] <th0r> zartarr, did you close the im?
[03:36] <zartarr> no I am sending you messages there
[03:36] <zartarr> are you not getting them?
[03:37] <th0r> zartarr, nope...got the first, but my reply went nowhere
[03:37] <zartarr> odd, ok lets just type here then
[03:38] <th0r> zartarr, try this command in a terminal....
[03:40] <th0r> mount -t cifs -o user=<username>,password=<userpass> //192.168.xx.yy /home/<susername>/Desktop/synology
[03:41] <th0r> zartarr, put in your username and password and ip of the drive. Note that /home/username is your username on the linux computer.
[03:43] <th0r> zartarr, if the mount succeeds you should be able to see the drive in the folder on your desktop
[03:43]  * Zardoz_gnoobot says hi to all
[03:43] <mylisto_> For some reason Kdenlive is taking forever to render anything...videos, mp3s, etc.  For a 43 minute mp3 its saying the ETA is 6 hours!  What can I do ?
[03:43] <cluelessperson> Does anyone know how to stop unity launcher from appearing over full screen applications (like VLC) ??
[03:43] <cluelessperson> http://i.imgur.com/LU4N3Vo.png
[03:44] <Zardoz_gnoobot> can anyone explain how to use the curl command to test RESTful APIs
[03:44] <Zardoz_gnoobot> is there any dummy site which I can use to test it
[03:44] <zartarr> mount error(22): Invalid argument
[03:44] <zartarr> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[03:44] <th0r> zartarr, what did you type exactly
[03:45] <th0r> zartarr, copy the command you entered from the terminal and paste it here...just the command line you typed in
[03:46] <zartarr> Couldn't chdir to /home/user/Desktop/synology: No such file or directory
[03:47] <th0r> zartarr, that should have been /home/(yourusernameinlinux)/Desktop/synology it should be the folder you created on your desktop
[03:48] <zartarr> can you specify for me this; Hostname or IP: Enter the IP address of the NFS client which will access the shared folder. You may specify a host in three ways:
[03:48] <zartarr> is this hostname the synology nas ip address?
[03:49] <mejnour> lotuspsychje, Hello again.. You were helping me with a gpu problem. I updated both nvidia and Intel to it's latest versions and I still get tearing. In fact, It's the same. Not even better... I'm considering updating the kernel. Would you suggest a version, please?
[03:49] <th0r> zartarr, where did you see that? No...the nfs client should be your linux computer, but you shouldn't need the ip to mount the drive
[03:49] <zartarr> its in step 4
[03:49] <zartarr> on the link on synology website
[03:49] <zartarr> to prep the synology nas for mounting
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> mejnour: 4.8 would be a good try
[03:50] <mejnour> lotuspsychje, thank you very much
[03:51] <flybyexx6> Hi all - is there a ubuntu/linux wizz or geek/nerd in Berlin, Germany who is interested in helping to improve/fix an installation of 16.04 on site in return for english language conversation and/or good meals!?
[03:52] <th0r> zartarr, ok...there is more than one step four...I was section four
[03:52] <th0r> zartarr, yes...you need to give your computer permission to access the drive...so there in the management for the drive you enter your linux computers ip address or hostname
[03:52] <flybyexx6> for one thing I need to purge completly two different installations for the brother DCP 1512 printer and then get one good fully functional installation including use of the combined scanner..?
[03:53] <zartarr> how do i get my linux computers info ip address
[03:53] <th0r> zartarr, ifconfig should show you the ip address, but I bet you are using dhcp so you won't always get the same address from the router. Better bet is to allow the home network....
[03:54] <dude> @search ebooks
[03:54] <flybyexx6> zartarr: what did google say?
[03:54] <zartarr> and how do i fully allow my home network
[03:54] <guiverc> zartarr: ifconfig is my fav; but depreciated.. "ip addr"; & "ip route" to view routing tables
[03:55] <th0r> zartarr, if the ifconfig command shows your ip address is 192.168.1.100, for instance, you could give permission to all computers in the network by entering 192.168.1.0/24
[03:55] <th0r> zartarr, or 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0
[03:55] <zartarr> that is assuming my ip address is 192.168.1.100
[03:56] <zartarr> or for anyone ?
[03:56] <expired> any one here can help set up irc server
[03:56] <th0r> Zardoz_gnoobot, assuming your address is 192.168.1.something
[03:56] <expired> ???
[03:56] <expired> i will pay
[03:56] <Iwan-w> Hi, I installed dnscrypt-proxy (from ubuntu official repo, xenial), and now my pc takes a very long time to shutdown, any suggestions?
[03:57] <th0r> zartarr, wrong nick....did you see the last response?
[03:57] <evanvarvell> ...
[03:58] <flybyexx6> Which of you good folks on line here right now is in or near Berlin, Germany .. I am in Berlin-Tempelhof and looking for a linux nerd to help fix some stuff on site?
[03:59] <Ben64> flybyexx6: that's not how to use this channel
[04:00] <illustrator> que pedo
[04:00] <illustrator> chavoz
[04:00] <flybyexx6> would be pleased to offer something in return - like trips as pillion rider on a 200cc suzuki scooter (great way to cut thru the traffic in the city..) or modest amounts of cash after the end of the month..
[04:00] <illustrator> quien quiere un poco de pito
[04:00] <flybyexx6> Ben64 how come.. I am just looking for help with ubuntu?
[04:01] <Ben64> flybyexx6: in person. this channel is for support online, here in this channel
[04:01] <zartarr> mount.nfs: mount point mnt does not exist
[04:01] <flybyexx6> so can u suggest a irc # for looking for local nerds.. then I am gone..
[04:01] <zartarr> so i went to step 5 on that site and am inputting this into terminal and getting that error
[04:02] <pavlos> flybyexx6, http://lug.berlin/
[04:02] <zartarr> On your Linux computer, open the command console.  Enter the mount command as follows:
[04:02] <zartarr> mount [Synology NAS IP address] : [mount path of shared folder] / [mount point on NFS client]
[04:02] <th0r> zartarr, you said you didn't usse mnt
[04:02] <Ben64> flybyexx6: don't think there is one, maybe try craigslist or something
[04:02] <flybyexx6> ok folks.. thanks for your help bye now..
[04:03] <mejnour> lotuspsychje, how do I choose between rc1-8 builds in the mainline directory? (sorry, I'm kinda new to this)
[04:03] <zartarr> https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/tutorial/File_Sharing/How_to_access_files_on_Synology_NAS_within_the_local_network_NFS
[04:03] <zartarr> step 5 there
[04:03] <mejnour> rc1-7, sorry
[04:03] <th0r> zartarr, the mountpoint on the nfs client is your folder..../home/username/Dekstop/synology
[04:04] <zartarr> OHHH
[04:04] <zartarr> mnt is a codename
[04:04] <th0r> zartarr, but I think they have that command a bit wrong
[04:04] <guiverc> zartar: note th0r's lack of spaces.. your typed info included lots of spaces (for readability I assume) .. /mnt is a common place to mount drives
[04:05] <ano> test !!
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | mejnour explained here
[04:06] <zartarr> ok well i am getting somewhere.
[04:06] <zartarr> mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting
[04:06] <zartarr> which means the settings on synology aren't allowing me to get through
[04:06] <zartarr> correct ?
[04:07] <th0r> zartarr, you set something wrong in the drive...what security did you give that share in the synology drive?
[04:07] <evanvarvell> hi my name is evan, where is everyone from?
[04:08] <lion> hi my name is nizam im from indonesia
[04:08] <evanvarvell> i,m from america
[04:08] <zivester> anyone know how to properly put xubuntu 16.04 to sleep with nvidia drivers? whenever if i dpms force off, i wont be able to turn it back on tomorrow
[04:09] <zartarr> i gave it my ip address
[04:09] <zartarr> something is connecting ... i get a synology folder on my desktop... but its blank
[04:09] <th0r> zartarr, no....a bit further down...Security
[04:10] <zartarr> i gave it Read/Write
[04:10] <th0r> zartarr, you should have set IP, Privilege, and Security in step 4
[04:10] <mejnour> lotuspsychje, how do I choose between builds v4.8 r1~7?
[04:10] <zartarr> Security: sys
[04:11] <th0r> zartarr, ok....that should work.
[04:12] <evanvarvell> how much do you know about nvidia drivers?
[04:12] <zartarr> well something is mounted
[04:12] <zartarr> its just blank
[04:12] <zartarr> when i press the eject button it just says you are nut sudo
[04:12] <zartarr> not*
[04:13] <th0r> zartarr, the mount command is a root command, you need to use sudo....'sudo mount......'
[04:13] <evanvarvell> i have a computer that has nvidia
[04:13] <ano> we ngomong opo broo??
[04:14] <th0r> zartarr, and I still have some doubts about the way they say to enter the mount command
[04:14] <lion> mboh....
[04:14] <zartarr> ya lets stop, thanks th0r
[04:14] <evanvarvell> does anyone know if nvidia has spec and command sheets at their website?
[04:14] <zartarr> i feel like i am fully linux'ed out
[04:15] <zartarr> baby steps maybe... i have wifi :) lol
[04:15] <zartarr> maybe ill figure out how to get my printer running
[04:15] <th0r> zartarr, I think the command I gave you originally should work...but you need to start it with sudo
[04:15] <zartarr> can you send it to me again
[04:15] <pavlos> evanvarvell, you can search the nvidia site for your card model and find specs
[04:16] <th0r> zartarr, just a sec
[04:16] <evanvarvell> is bill murray here?
[04:16] <Bashing-om> evanvarvell: This channel is operating system support, for general ubuntu chat there is #ubuntu-offtopic .
[04:16] <evanvarvell> or richard dryfus?
[04:16] <evanvarvell> someone said baby steps
[04:18] <th0r> zartarr, mount -t cifs -o user=<username>,password=<userpass> //192.168.xx.yy/sharename /home/linuxuser/Desktop/synology
[04:18] <th0r> zartarr, the ip, username  and password are all from the synology drive. The linuxuser is the username on your linux computer
[04:19] <ano> orang indonesia mana suaranya????
[04:19] <th0r> ano, not here please
[04:20] <zartarr> ya not working
[04:20] <th0r> zartarr, that is the command I use to mount about 8 different nfs drives to my desktop so I know it should work.
[04:20] <zartarr> ya don't worry about it bro
[04:20] <zartarr> that makes me feel soo dumb
[04:20] <zartarr> whats the xx.yy/sharename
[04:20] <zartarr> ?
[04:21] <th0r> zartarr, 192.168.xx.yy is the ip address of the synology drive, and sharename is the name you gave the share in that admin program (step 4 or thereabouts)
[04:21] <ano> @th0r yes, I'm sorry
[04:21] <zartarr> you mean the host name?
[04:22] <zartarr> or the share drive
[04:22] <th0r> zartarr, Go to the NFS Permissions tab. Here you can find the mount path of the shared folder, which follows the format / [volume name] / [shared folder name ].
[04:22] <zartarr> like /Volume1/blahblah
[04:22] <th0r> zartarr, yeah...Volume1/whatever
[04:22] <zartarr> ya so i got that
[04:22] <zartarr> and the ip address
[04:22] <zartarr> is of the synology
[04:22] <th0r> zartarr, right
[04:22] <evanvarvell> you want to boot me now of later?
[04:23] <zartarr> Couldn't chdir to /home/user/Desktop/synology: No such file or directory
[04:23] <th0r> zartarr, and it does start with a double slash "//"
[04:23] <evanvarvell> ubuntu-offtopic has 137 people only in its room
[04:24] <th0r> zartarr, that means your mount folder is a different path. Open the synology folder on your desktop and see what the full path is
[04:24] <zartarr> /home/user/Desktop
[04:25] <th0r> zartarr, then the folder should be /home/user/Desktop/synology...make sure there are no typos
[04:25] <zartarr> how do i delete/eject these
[04:25] <zartarr> i have 2 synologies on my desktop now
[04:25] <zartarr> because of whatever commands i have running before
[04:25] <zartarr> i want to get rid of them and just create new folder
[04:26] <th0r> zartarr, the mount command will show you what is mounted. Just unmount them 'sudo umount /home/user/Desktop/synology'
[04:26] <th0r> zartarr, don't know how you got two though....<smile>
[04:26] <evanvarvell> i am not into oppression
[04:27] <th0r> zartarr, one of them won't go away...it is the one you created
[04:27] <mejnour> lotuspsychje, I have read about kernels and found the one I needed. I already updated it. What should I do next?
[04:27] <zartarr> both of them won't go away
[04:27] <th0r> zartarr, are they both empty?
[04:27] <zartarr> umount: /home/user/Desktop/Synology is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[04:27] <zartarr> yes
[04:27] <zartarr> both are empty
[04:27] <th0r> zartarr, all mount and umount commands need to start with 'sudo '
[04:28] <jesuslovesyouthi> What's the proper name for the bar on the side wtih icons?
[04:28] <jesuslovesyouthi> The launcher?
[04:28] <th0r> zartarr, just type 'mount' in a terminal and see if either one is mounted
[04:28] <zartarr> sudo unmount /home/user/Desktop/Synology
[04:28] <zartarr> sudo: unmount: command not found
[04:29] <th0r> zartarr, umount....not uNmount
[04:29] <zartarr> oh jesus
[04:29] <zartarr> its like what the eye wants to see
[04:29] <zartarr> sorry
[04:29] <th0r> zartarr, no problem...easy mistake
[04:29] <zartarr> sweet 1 of them is gone
[04:30] <zartarr> actually
[04:30] <zartarr> both are now gone
[04:30] <th0r> zartarr, I can still remember the first time I used the mount command....then all the dinosaurs died
[04:30] <zartarr> k
[04:30] <zartarr> creating new golder
[04:30] <zartarr> i swear, i just get a few things working like my nas, my printer, and like i will never need windows in my life
[04:30] <zartarr> hardest thing ive had to do since learning typing on windows 95
[04:31] <th0r> zartarr, look at linux like a giant jigsaw puzzle....it isn't hard...just fun
[04:32] <jesuslovesyouthi> Is there any way to put several launchers in a folder on the launch bar?
[04:33] <zartarr> mount error: could not resolve address for 192.168.1.xx:: Unknown error
[04:34] <th0r> zartarr, I assume you put in the ip address of the synology drive
[04:34] <evanvarvell> i cannot join ubuntu-offtopic
[04:34] <zartarr> sudo mount -t cifs -o user=user,password=pass //192.168.1.xx:/volume1/Zartarr /home/user/Desktop/synology
[04:34] <zartarr> ya
[04:34] <th0r> zartarr, the .xx is no good...there should be a number there. And I don't think you want a colon after that
[04:35] <mejnour> Hello, guys. I'm having trouble with my GPU. lotuspsychje, who seems to be away, was helping me. I managed to follow all steps described by him. 1. Upgraded my NVIDIA drivers (It was the standard 361, now is 370); 2. Upgraded my Intel HD Graphics driver (Since it's an automatic upgrade, I counldn't follow the version...); 3. Upgraded my kernel (It was 4.4 standard shipped with Ubuntu 16.04, now it's v4.8rc7). What should I do next?
[04:35] <zartarr> i put a number in there i just blanked it out ; im not sure if i should be sharing my ip address with the world. or is that just a generic ip addy
[04:35] <th0r> zartarr, ok...you are right there <smile>. Take out the colon
[04:36] <guiverc> evanvarvell:  you must have name registered to join offtopic
[04:36] <zartarr> ok interesting
[04:36] <zartarr> this massive prompt came up
[04:36] <zartarr> its to large to copy paste in here
[04:36] <th0r> zartarr, use pastebinit
[04:37] <zartarr> someone told me this before, I don't know how
[04:37] <zartarr> Other options: [-nfFrsvw] [-o options] [-p passwdfd].
[04:37] <zartarr> For many more details, say  man 8 mount .
[04:37] <zartarr> thats the end of it
[04:37] <evanvarvell> what do the green color type mean in the chat room?
[04:38] <th0r> zartarr, ok...it didn't like how I put in the username and password. check 'man mount' I bet you need to change it to -u username -p password instead of -o.....
[04:38] <Bashing-om> zartarr: The IP is generic " ip route >> default via 192.168.0.1 dev eth1  >> 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth1  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.0.101 " .
[04:38] <th0r> Bashing-om, we are almost there....I just don't know how the ubuntu mount command wants the username aqnd password
[04:40] <zartarr> test | pastebinit
[04:40] <papabur> hello everyone, I got a question/issue getting Pronterface setup correctly
[04:40] <Bashing-om> th0r: I wish I know to help more . But I too do not have that experience .
[04:40] <zartarr> *facepalm*
[04:40] <papabur> Im still relatively new toubuntu
[04:40] <papabur> i followed the wiki
[04:40] <papabur> ok so anyways..
[04:40] <th0r> Bashing-om, no problem. I run debian and raspbian so every now and then I run into a compatability issue
 | pastebinit
[04:41] <papabur> Question: How do I tell the terminal to remove any and all files of said app(Printrun / Pronterface)
[04:41] <papabur> i want to completely remove (shred?)
[04:41] <th0r> zartarr, I think it is just a case of getting the username and password in the command right. First step...try the mount command I sent without the -o or the user/pass
[04:41] <papabur> any traces
[04:42] <papabur> thank you.
[04:42] <Bashing-om> papabur: proprietary printer driver ? The authors should have provided an un-install script .
[04:42] <papabur> Arduino
[04:42] <papabur> i installed aruino, its working great
[04:42] <papabur> arduino 1.6.11
[04:42] <papabur> Slic3r seems to work fine..
[04:43] <papabur> i want to uninstall compeltely/ fresh reinstall
[04:43] <papabur> i may have messed it up..
[04:44] <mejnour> Hello, guys. I'm having trouble with my GPU. It's tearing even in light tasks like watching movies. The good lotuspsychje, who seems to be away, were helping me. I managed to follow all steps described by him. 1. Upgraded my NVIDIA drivers (It was the standard 361, now is 370); 2. Upgraded my Intel HD Graphics driver (Since it's an automatic upgrade, I counldn't follow the version...); 3. Upgraded my kernel (It was 4.4 standard
[04:44] <mejnour> shipped with Ubuntu 16.04, now it's v4.8rc7). What should I do next?
[04:44] <Bashing-om> !info arduino
[04:45] <rexman> hy
[04:45] <Bashing-om> papabur: ^ You installed via the software repository and this is the version installed ?
[04:45] <zartarr> ok how do i get this pastebinit working test | pastebinit
[04:45] <rexman> hy
[04:45] <rexman> hy
[04:46] <rexman> hy
[04:46] <rexman> hy
[04:46] <th0r> zartarr, type 'mount | pastebinit' and it should give you back a url (http://.......)
[04:47] <zartarr> Unable to read or parse the result page, it could be a server time-out or a server-side change. Try with another pastebin.
[04:47] <th0r> zartarr, not a problem....I don't think we really need it right now.
[04:48] <zartarr> I've tried the u- and the p-
[04:48] <zartarr> and then also removed the -o
[04:48] <zartarr> did not work
[04:48] <zartarr> what happens tho is this big prompt comes
[04:48] <th0r> zartarr, you might not need username or password...take out the -o and both the username and password
[04:48] <zartarr> Usage: mount -V                 : print version
[04:48] <zartarr>        mount -h                 : print this help
[04:48] <zartarr>        mount                    : list mounted filesystems
[04:48] <zartarr>        mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels
[04:48] <zartarr> starts like tat
[04:48] <RLShiftyDoggit> zartarr what are you stuck on?
[04:48] <th0r> zartarr, try the mount command I sent, but without the -o stuff
[04:48] <zartarr> getting my synology connected... and th0r has the patience of mother teresa
[04:50] <zartarr> you know whats wierd
[04:50] <zartarr> terminal stops working
[04:50] <zartarr> when i try something new
[04:50] <zartarr> and i gotta exit and come back in
[04:50] <zartarr> now all of a sudden with these commands
[04:50] <zartarr> that big prompt comes up with random mount -- codes
[04:50] <zartarr>  sudo mount -t cifs  //192.168.1.blah /volume1/Zartarr /home/user/Desktop/synology
[04:50] <zartarr>   
[04:51] <zartarr> thats what i tried lsat
[04:51] <th0r> zartarr, no space after blah
[04:51] <guiverc> zartarr:  if I enter a mount for some NAS devices; they are slow & mount takes awhile... looks like term has stopped working, buts its just waiting for NAS to power-up sleeping hdd drives...
[04:51] <Guest5280> Good morning:)  would you like to visit a new chat?  Www.greekircnet.gr or www.greekchat.eu
[04:52] <th0r> zartarr, and only one space at a time...there are two after cifs
[04:52] <zartarr> oh interesting
[04:52] <zartarr> its asking for password at root
[04:52] <zartarr> for my looks like synology
[04:54] <th0r> zartarr, that might be the root password for your linux box....because you are using sudo
[04:54] <teo_> ?
[04:54] <zartarr> well atleast we got somewhere
[04:54] <zartarr> Unable to find suitable address.
[04:55] <th0r> zartarr, are you sure you got the ip right for the drive?
[04:56] <th0r> zartarr, and no space between the ip and the volume
[04:59] <papabur> back
[04:59] <zartarr> pretty positive since my windows pc and mac are connected same way
[04:59] <papabur> Bashing-om: yes
[04:59] <zartarr> synologyassistant gives me 2 addy's i tried the other one that i barely use and it went through with a diff error
[04:59] <zartarr> mount error(13) permission denied
[04:59] <zartarr> which means in synology im not allowing my whole network... right?
[04:59] <papabur> wait..
[04:59] <papabur> no arduino is working fine
[04:59] <papabur> is the ramps
[04:59] <zartarr> 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0
[05:00] <th0r> zartarr, that might be, or it might be that the other addrss is an admin address and not for all users
[05:00] <zartarr> thats what I had entered on the synology side
[05:00] <papabur> err
[05:00] <papabur> pronterface
[05:00] <th0r> zartarr, that looks right...should give the network access to the drive
[05:00] <papabur> bashing-om: Pronterface wont load, does not depend on arduino to do so
[05:01] <zartarr> both are giving me the same permission denied error now
[05:03] <th0r> zartarr, you might have to enter the username and password with the mount command, but I am not sure exactly how to do that.
[05:03] <th0r> zartarr, that is the username and password for the drive, not for the linux computer
[05:05] <zartarr> theres apparently a whole manual
[05:05] <zartarr> when i type man mount.cifs
[05:05] <zartarr> how do i copy and paste via pastebinit
[05:05] <th0r> zartarr, lets try something else first....
[05:06] <papabur> sudo chop it
[05:06] <guiverc> th0r & zartarr:  mount -o username=guiverc,password=please //192.168.17.100/FamilyLibrary /mnt/stora123   is how i can mount a netgear stora NAS device using my username (guiverc) & password (please in this example)...
[05:07] <th0r> guiverc, yes...that is the command I had him try a bit ago...but mount came back with a suggested -p password error
[05:08] <th0r> zartarr, back in step four....you set ip, privilege, security, and the last one...squash...I think you need to set it to Map all users to admin
[05:08] <guiverc> sorry th0r:  i haven't watched all; just saw passwd comment; apologies for repetition
[05:09] <th0r> guiverc, no problem. I am glad you stepped in on that as I use debian/raspbian and wasn't sure if ubuntu did it the same way
[05:09] <zartarr> doesn't that mean the user and pass should be of the NAS and not the linux ?
[05:09] <th0r> zartarr, yes....the nas not the linux
[05:10] <zartarr> jesus, you're probably going to run someone over
[05:10] <zartarr> but i was entered the linux the whole time you know
[05:10] <zartarr> privelege: read/write
[05:10] <zartarr> squash: no mapping
[05:10] <zartarr> security: sys
[05:10] <th0r> zartarr, then lets go back to my original command line and put in the right username and password...try it again
[05:10] <zartarr> i have no changed squash to all users
[05:11] <zartarr> oh jeez, how do i just filter you in this chat
[05:12] <th0r> zartarr, I don't know of a filter....sorry
[05:13] <zartarr>    	 	 	 	 	 	   mount -t cifs -o user=<username>,password=<userpass> //192.168.xx.yy /home/<susername>/Desktop/synology
[05:13] <zartarr> this is it
[05:14] <th0r> zartarr, make sure you include the volume/share....//192.168.1.xx/volume1/synology or whatever it was
[05:14] <zartarr>    	 	 	 	 	 	   mount -t cifs -o user=zeus,password=xyz//192.168.1.192 /volume1/Zartarr /home/user/Desktop/synology
[05:15] <zartarr> thats it
[05:15] <zartarr> i like totally give up
[05:15] <th0r> zartarr, space after password and none between ip and volume
[05:15] <th0r> zartarr, I mean space after password=xyz
[05:16] <zartarr> nah th0r same errors like before
[05:16] <zartarr> Retrying with upper case share name
[05:16] <zartarr> mount error(6): No such device or address
[05:16] <zartarr> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[05:17] <th0r> zartarr, are you sure about the /volume1/Zartarr.....remember it is case sensitive
[05:18] <zartarr> synology tells me that
[05:18] <zartarr> Mount path:/volume1/Zartarr
[05:18] <zartarr> in the how to guide
[05:19] <nicolasone> eh
[05:19] <th0r> zartarr, if I read that guide correctly it is Volume1, not volume1
[05:19] <david__> hey
[05:20] <zartarr> capitals matter?
[05:20] <th0r> zartarr, yes....linux remember
[05:20] <zartarr> luckily actually
[05:20] <zartarr> it wasn't capitalized
[05:20] <zartarr> i have a word document going with all my failures while making notes
[05:21] <th0r> zartarr, well...I use a text editor so I don't need Word to read it later <smile>.
[05:21] <zartarr> wait...
[05:21] <zartarr> maybe its saying tthat it doesnt exist
[05:21] <zartarr> because i am typing Synology
[05:21] <mylisto_> For some reason Kdenlive is taking forever to render anything...videos, mp3s, etc.  For a 43 minute mp3 its saying the ETA is 6 hours!  What can I do ?
[05:21] <zartarr> not synology <-- which is on my desktop
[05:21] <zartarr> in small letters
[05:22] <zartarr> do you think that matters?
[05:22] <zartarr> I am typing "Synology" in terminal, while my desktop has "synology"
[05:22] <th0r> zartarr, there are two places in the command line....the drive (ip/Volume1/whatever) and the linux computer (/home/user/Desktop/whatever)...they may not be the same
[05:23] <th0r> zartarr, but they are both case sensitive...upper case matters
[05:23] <zartarr> Retrying with upper case share name
[05:23] <zartarr> mount error(6): No such device or address
[05:23] <zartarr> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[05:23] <zartarr> same error after changing it
[05:23] <guiverc> zartarr:  case matters when referring to Synology device... directory you mount on your local ubuntu device you can pick case... I'm forced to use FamilyLibrary exactly as its hardcoded in netgear device...  (which claims NFS but is really cifs/samba)
[05:24] <th0r> zartarr, I suspect the ip address isn't quite correct, but it might be the volume/share info that is in error...check both
[05:25] <th0r> zartarr, it isn't finding the synology drive at that ip address, or isn't finding the share
[05:25] <zartarr> ok th0r, you have way more stamina than me. i thank you. if you are in canada alberta ill buy you a drink.
[05:25] <zartarr> but i have enough of our tries documented, that i can try tomorrow again
[05:25] <th0r> zartarr, wish I was in canada.
[05:25] <zartarr> if i ask for help tomorrow in this chat, do not reply - unless you want to kill yourself the day after
[05:26] <th0r> zartarr, this is recreation for me
[05:26] <zartarr> thanks buddy
[05:26] <alkisg> linux+synology=cifs instead of nfs? why?
[05:26] <th0r> zartarr, and we are close to geting it right
[05:26] <zartarr> p.s. theres an oil crisis here... thanks aint that good :)
[05:26] <th0r> alkisg, I don't think nfs is a file type in mount is it?
[05:27] <alkisg> th0r: nfs is a file system that can be used in mount, yes
[05:27] <alkisg> Like cifs
[05:27] <th0r> zartarr, maybe try that...change -t cifs to -t nfs and see if it works
[05:27] <alkisg> It's the native one to be used when there's linux at both ends
[05:27] <alkisg> cifs is for windows primarily
[05:27] <th0r> alkisg, nice catch...thanks
[05:27] <th0r> alkisg, cifs is for samba too. I use all samba servers, so just naturally fell into cifs
[05:28] <alkisg> yup, samba is a reimplementation of the windows protocols, while nfs is the native one for linux
[05:28] <th0r> alkisg, maybe that will be my next project...switch them from samba to nfs....should screw things up nicely <smle>
[05:28] <alkisg> haha
[05:29] <zartarr> mount.nfs: remote share not in 'host:dir' format
[05:29] <alkisg> zartarr: that's a whole other approach; you first need to enable nfs on synology, from its web interface
[05:29] <alkisg> google for a small tutorial
[05:29] <th0r> zartarr, ok....the mount command needs to be a bit different then...which explains the guide
[05:30] <zartarr> isn't that what i did?
[05:30] <zartarr> https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/tutorial/File_Sharing/How_to_access_files_on_Synology_NAS_within_the_local_network_NFS
[05:30] <zartarr> NFS
[05:30] <teledyn> anyone know why writing to a windows partition is extremely slow?
[05:31] <alkisg> zartarr: that tutorial also has an example for the mount command, follow all of it
[05:31] <th0r> zartarr, lets try the command a bit differently...give me a sec
[05:31] <teledyn> these are the mount options: /dev/sda2 on /mnt/E: type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,noatime,sync,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,user)
[05:32] <alkisg> teledyn: i think ntfs3g is that way on purpose, the paid version is faster
[05:32] <alkisg> Especially for large writes
[05:33] <th0r> zartarr, try this....sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.xx.yy:volume/sharename /home/linuxuser/Desktop/synology
[05:33] <th0r> zartarr, and if it works....my bad.....should have been on top of that
[05:35] <zartarr> soo... if it goes to the next line... and no prompt shows
[05:36] <zartarr> does it mean its thinking?
[05:36] <zartarr> like its not going back to the :~$ sign
[05:36] <th0r> zartarr, yup it is thinking.
[05:36] <th0r> zartarr, should return to the prompt in a bit
[05:37] <th0r> zartarr, and I apologize for misreading that format all this time
[05:37] <zartarr> dude... you are helping me out... for free... whats wrong with you... i am so grateful as is, relax... your acting like this is going to work... your psycho
[05:38] <zartarr> mount.nfs: Connection timed out
[05:38] <th0r> zartarr, I still think we have the ip wrong...it isn't getting to the drive
[05:39] <th0r> zartarr, check that command line closely...uppercase, spaces, etc...make sure it is just like I sent it
[05:39] <th0r> zartarr, with necessary changes of course
[05:39] <zartarr> i think you are right about the ip
[05:40] <zartarr> it said access denied
[05:40] <zartarr> immediately
[05:40] <zartarr> this time around
[05:40] <zartarr> once i changed the ip
[05:40] <zartarr> do i need the user and pass line items now?
[05:40] <zartarr> feels like it
[05:40] <th0r> zartarr, I was thinking to try that again, yes
[05:42] <zartarr> it goes back to that long text telling me all about mount
[05:43] <th0r> zartarr, you used '-o username=user,password=pass' right?
[05:43] <zartarr> sudo mount -t nfs user=xyz,password=hahaha //192.168.1.blah:volume1/Zartarr /home/user/Desktop/synology
[05:43] <zartarr>   
[05:44] <th0r> zartarr, forgot the -o
[05:44] <zartarr> so both -t and -o are needed?
[05:44] <guiverc> suggestion: (th0r & zartarr): skip the // before the address...
[05:44] <th0r> zartarr, and it should be '-o username-xyz,password=abc'
[05:44] <th0r> zartarr, right...the // before the ip isnt needed...check the line I sent
[05:44] <th0r> guiverc, thanks
[05:45] <guiverc> usually ipaddress:/path/dir for NFS;  //ipaddress/path/dir for cifs/SaMBa
[05:45] <th0r> zartarr, -t nfs -o username......
[05:46] <th0r> zartarr, ,my bad again....user= not userNAME
[05:46] <th0r> jeez...must be getting old
[05:47] <zartarr> sudo mount -t nfs -o user=user,password=test192.168.1.xyz:volume1/Zartarr /home/user/Desktop/synology
[05:47] <zartarr>   
[05:47] <th0r> zartarr, space before the ip
[05:47] <zartarr> mount.nfs: an incorrect mount option was specified
[05:47] <zartarr> ya there is
[05:47] <zartarr> just removing pass did that
[05:47] <th0r> zartarr, linux is usser friendly...its just very picky about who its friends are
[05:48] <zartarr> its like university, once its set up - i will never remember this
[05:48] <zartarr> i have 2 pages of word document recording my failure
[05:48] <evanvarvell> which channel knows about search engines?
[05:48] <zartarr> im so tired of changing my user and pass and blanking my ip address, verge on being like fuck it - world hack me, just fix it
[05:49] <th0r> zartarr, (family channel). the bad option error....that is the -o stuff
[05:49] <dusted> My setup: a fresh 16.04  machine with nc listening to port 1337, which has been routed to the machines IP. An online portscanner will tell the port is closed. - If I route this port to another machine (my workstation) and let nc the same port, the online portscanner tells me the port is open.
[05:49] <zartarr> sudo mount -t nfs -o user=user,password=test 192.168.1.xyz:volume1/Zartarr /home/user/Desktop/synology
[05:49] <zartarr> this was the last thing i just tried
[05:50] <Sherlock_Stones> lo all
[05:50] <Sherlock_Stones> Anyone here used the junos pulse vpn with ubuntu before?
[05:50] <dusted> Any good ideas as to why my fresh ubuntu machine feels too special to speak tcp with machines from the Internet ?
[05:50] <orlock> dusted: What is your listening nc socket binding to?
[05:50] <zartarr> gives me this error: mount.nfs: an incorrect mount option was specified
[05:50] <dusted> orfeo, orlock port 1337 tcp
[05:50] <dusted> ah, the interface
[05:50] <orlock> 0.0.0:1337 or 127.0.0.1:1337
[05:51] <dusted> it answers if I scan it from the lan
[05:51] <th0r> zartarr, that sure looks like it should work. that error is the -o stuff. If you take out just one, like th epassword...do you still get that error?
[05:51] <orlock> after that, look at your ufw/iptables settings - or just flush them/stop ufw
[05:51] <dusted> and netstat tells me 0.0.0.0:1337
[05:51] <orlock> dusted: Ahh, ok
[05:51] <orlock> And i assume the route is there?
[05:51] <dusted> yes, and if I change the route to point to another machine, it works as expected from that
[05:52] <orlock> run this: tcpdump -nni any src or dst port 1337
[05:52] <dusted> good idea
[05:52] <orlock> by route, you mean port forward for the internet:1337 to go to your internal host?
[05:52] <zartarr> then it says
[05:52] <zartarr> access denied by server while mount 192.
[05:52] <zartarr> when i take out the password
[05:52] <zartarr> should i take out the -o
[05:53] <dusted> orlock, I got something, 07:52:33.002302 IP 208.64.252.230.47130 > 192.168.1.31.1337: Flags [S], seq 3349473438, win 5840, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2156829807 ecr 0,nop,wscale 8], length 0
[05:53] <dusted> so, the route seems ok
[05:53] <orlock> yeah so you have your inbound syn
[05:53] <th0r> zartarr, the -o says that what follows is options....everything up to the next space is options, separated by commas....or that is what it should be <smile>
[05:53] <orlock> is there anything going back the other way?
[05:54] <dusted> orlock, only that 1 packet recieved, I will run the same on the other machine, to compare outputs
[05:54] <dusted> the one where the scan returns
[05:54] <orlock> you should see another packet except its 192.168.1.31.1337 > 208.64.252.230.47130
[05:54] <th0r> zartarr, you are getting access denied because the user/password aren't being supplied. But when you supply them it doesn't like how you are doing it
[05:55] <zartarr> is the other way u- user, p- password ?
[05:56] <th0r> zartarr, no....that other irc member who helped out earlier used the same syntax so I am pretty sure it is right
[05:56] <dusted> orlock, on the machine where it works, 6 packets are captured
[05:56] <guiverc> zartarr & th0r:  looking I note "info nfs" doesn't reveal options for user=,password= for NFS ... my own NFS does it another way.. here you have to match the way synology does it (which I don't know)   i'm assuming you've tried without -o user..,password...   apology if i'm missing prior stuff again....
[05:57] <th0r> zartarr, that last command sure looks like it should work...I am looking it over closely and see no issues
[05:57] <orlock> dusted: and you can see the bidirectional conversation, correct?
[05:57] <dusted> yes
[05:57] <orlock> hmm
[05:57] <orlock> clear your firewall rules
[05:57] <dusted> ufw is disabled
[05:57] <th0r> guiverc, we are just discussing that. If we take it all out then he gets access denied.
[05:57] <orlock> and the default actions are accept, not drop?
[05:58] <dusted> actually, I do not know, but if it was drop, I guess it wouldn't work from local machines ?
[05:58] <orlock> hmm yes you are likely right
[05:58] <th0r> guiverc, but it doesn't like when he includes them. So how do we pass the credentials to the synology drive is the question
[05:58] <dusted> from my workstation, I can connect fine to it, I'm using it via ssh
[05:58] <th0r> zartarr, take out the -o user/pass stuff and lets work from there
[05:59] <orlock> dusted: Unsure, sounds like you have a fun problem
[05:59] <guiverc> th0r: sorry. my successful experience with NFS is with *nix servers; i hate xx brand NAS devices (that each interpret rules differently)
[05:59] <dusted> orlock, indeed :D
[05:59] <sebsebseb> hi
[05:59] <zartarr> gives me the mount things
[05:59] <zartarr> A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom,
[05:59] <zartarr> or by label, using  -L label  or by uuid, using  -U uuid .
[05:59] <zartarr> Other options: [-nfFrsvw] [-o options] [-p passwdfd].
[05:59] <zartarr> For many more details, say  man 8 mount .
[06:00] <zartarr> and a bunch of other stuff up above
[06:00] <zartarr> that is to long to copy paste
[06:01] <th0r> zartarr, I am looking at that guide again...specifically this comment at the end.....Can't mount the shared folder? The user account you enter here must have access privileges for the shared folder that you wish to map.
[06:02] <orlock> dusted: I'm not sure - can you pastebin iptables -L -n ?
[06:02] <th0r> zartarr, but I cannot see where the user account info was entered.
[06:02] <zartarr> that stuff is done in different prompts when setting up the synology
[06:02] <zartarr> the user pass has access
[06:02] <dusted> orlock, yes, moment please
[06:02] <zartarr> ive connected to this drive via windows and mac with the synology software before
[06:02] <zartarr> no issues
[06:03] <th0r> zartarr, it is just a matter of figuring out exactly what the synology wants...and how to get it there. At least we are talking to the drive now (I think)
[06:03] <dusted> orlock, http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1119959
[06:04] <orlock> yeah all good
[06:04] <orlock> hmm
[06:04] <orlock> dusted: i'd do a tcpdump -bi any src or dst port not 22
[06:04] <orlock> or whatever it is so you dont sniff your own ssh traffic
[06:05] <dusted> yea
[06:05] <guiverc> th0r:  could how windoze or mac provide a clue?  zartarr did you use a command; or provided.software (which hides the clues) to mount in other OSes
[06:05] <zartarr> software
[06:05] <zartarr> synology assistant
[06:05] <zartarr> it searches my nas
[06:05] <zartarr> i dbl click the IP address it shows
[06:05] <zartarr> login with user name and pass
[06:05] <zartarr> it says "map drive"
[06:06] <zartarr> which maps it...
[06:06] <zartarr> and bam
[06:06] <guiverc> grrrr...  but implies samba/cifs to me more than nfs.
[06:06] <th0r> zartarr, so we need to get that username and password to it somehow
[06:06] <zartarr> but Synology says to connect to linux use NFS
[06:06] <zartarr> and that site has the instructions
[06:06] <zartarr> im using the exact username and pass
[06:06] <zartarr> i even created another admin to try diff username and pass which i shouldnt have to do to no avail
[06:07] <dusted> orlock, yeah, only getting the one packet, unless I nc from a local machine, then I get several (and it works)
[06:07] <orlock> And your client nc wont think that it's got a socket without more packets
[06:08] <orlock> hmm.. grasping at straws, but you could try an strace of the listening nc
[06:08] <dusted> nope, and I can type messages through and such.. when routing to another machine (I tried both my workstation and my other server), the online port scanner exits at once, reporting the port available
[06:08] <dusted> and the listening nc exits
[06:09] <dusted> but on this particular machine, nc stays open, and the portscanner times out
[06:09] <dusted> (the online portscanner, that is)
[06:09] <orlock> Does it work for something thats not netcat?
[06:09] <dusted> zenmap from my workstation tells me the port is open
[06:10] <th0r> zartarr, reading the man pages...give me a sec
[06:10] <dusted> orlock, nope, the reason I went to nc was that nginx seemed to work fine from my workstation, so when I switched the route from my old http server to this new one, I assumed stuff worked.. then I tried hydemyas* to check external connectivity,and became rather surprised that it didn't
[06:11] <dusted> I'm going to try something wild here, I'll reboot the box.. I was an it supporter once.. so I have superstitions
[06:13] <th0r> zartarr, I see no way to send the username password for an nfs mount...nothing in the man pages about it
[06:14] <dusted> orlock, the reboot worked, and I will never know why :(
[06:14] <dusted> ufw disabled, iptables empty
[06:14] <guiverc> another stupid butt-in:  a google search tells me NFS must be enabled to work on Synology drives; by default its disabled.
[06:14] <orlock> Nooo.......!
[06:15] <dusted> hands thrown into the air, thoughts are with intel nics
[06:15] <orlock> Almost sounds like a dodgy arp entru?
[06:15]  * Zardoz_gnoobot says hi to all
[06:15] <dusted> orlock, damnit! I should definitely have listedf arp before
[06:15] <sasos90> hey guys. i have a problem and i am dealing with it already for 2 years. i am using Linux Mint distribution (version 18 .. the latest) and i am having a problem with some random freezing and so on..
[06:16] <sasos90> and this happend already on 5th computer.
[06:16] <th0r> guiverc, that is covered in the guide zartarr referenced earlier. I assume he checked that box <smile>. zartarr .....did you enable nfs like the guide said?
[06:16] <sasos90> i tried 5 different computers and i always had the problems with some freezing and so on.. perhaps some graphical issues? i don't know anymore..
[06:16] <zartarr> yupppp
[06:16] <guiverc> :)
[06:17] <zartarr> i like gui, and checking boxes
[06:17] <sasos90> all i can do is just use it, and hard shutdown it few times per week and that's it..
[06:17] <zartarr> probably the only thing i did right
[06:17] <zartarr> terminal is the devil
[06:17] <hateball> !mint | sasos90
[06:17] <sasos90> aaa
[06:18] <sasos90> ubottu: thanks for the only productive help in 2 years :) i will give it a try
[06:18] <sasos90> gosh.. bot can help me.
[06:19] <th0r> zartarr, ok...step by step. Take out all the -o stuff, and take out the -t nfs as well, then try that command
[06:20] <th0r> zartarr, it should just be 'sudo mount ip:Voluem1/synology /home/user/Desktop/synology'
[06:21] <guiverc> th0r: note: guide appears to have "volume1" all in lower case...
[06:22] <th0r> guiverc, but if you look close at the screenshot it is Volume1 ... not sure what to do there
[06:22] <th0r> zartarr, what do you see when you look at that admin screen...the one shown in step 2
[06:23] <zartarr> 1sec thor, just putting baby to sleep, i need to catch up on your last 3 messages
[06:23] <zartarr> 5mins
[06:23] <th0r> guimaluf, we are looking at https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/tutorial/File_Sharing/How_to_access_files_on_Synology_NAS_within_the_local_network_NFS#t4
[06:23] <th0r> oops guiverc https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/tutorial/File_Sharing/How_to_access_files_on_Synology_NAS_within_the_local_network_NFS#t4
[06:28] <th0r> guiverc, if I am not totally confused at this point...when he tries to mount this without the user/password he gets access denied, which would indicate we need somehow to pass credentials
[06:29] <th0r> guiverc, I thought in the config we told the drive to allow the whole network...but it doesn't seem to work that way
[06:29] <guiverc> th0r: i suspect credentials are set on Synology box; not the ubuntu client.
[06:30] <th0r> guiverc, yeah...that is what I thought. Somewhere we are missing something in the configs
[06:30] <guiverc> th0r:  by default NFS is unix-user-id only... trust assumed; security done elsewhere.. looking at page to me implies the setup on synology device isn't correct... not the stuff you've been trying.
[06:32] <guiverc> th0r: you've covered much of this when I wasn't paying attention; ie. squash (hide system dirs etc) etc..
[06:32] <linux_> hi
[06:32] <th0r> guiverc, the only place in that guide I see to give/refuse permissions is where you define the share permissions. We set it to allow the entire network (192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0)
[06:33] <guiverc> yep.. what'd i'd use (assuming home or closed-firewalled lan).   add extra security later when working (if needed)
[06:33] <sebsebseb> hi
[06:33] <zartarr> ok back
[06:33] <sebsebseb> ok back to
[06:35] <th0r> guiverc, zartarr in setting the nfs permissions there is a spot where security is set to Auth_Sys. I wonder if there is someplace in there to define the uid/gid for the user on th elinux box
[06:35] <linux_> I bought a new laptop with a 120GB hard drive and I want to install Ubuntu together with Kali Linux and Qubes OS. Each System I want to assign 40GB of disk space. Is it possible to have all 3 systems fully encrypted? What do I have to do to create the partitions?
[06:35] <zartarr> it asks for sudo password for user
[06:35] <zartarr> which i assume is linux user
[06:35] <zartarr> and hten i put it
[06:35] <zartarr> then it says mount.nfs access denied
[06:35] <sebsebseb> linux_: were you here yesterday saying about some sort of kali Linux?
[06:35] <zartarr> let me log into my mac and see how i connected, its semi unix maybe will give hint
[06:35] <sebsebseb> linux_: and not sure what qubes os is
[06:35] <linux_> sebsebseb: No, I was here one year ago last, I think. Why?
[06:36] <sebsebseb> linux_: omeone going on about it yesterday I think it was yeah
[06:36] <guiverc> zartarr:  what is your UID (*nix user-id);   enter "id" as a command please.
[06:36] <sebsebseb> or day before
[06:36] <sebsebseb> here
[06:36] <th0r> zartarr, when you defined the username on the drive, was there any place to enter a uid or gid?
[06:36] <sebsebseb> linux_: I guess you can set up a test machine first!
[06:36] <linux_> Qubes OS is the most secure Linux system. www.qubes-os.irg
[06:36] <linux_> or
[06:36] <linux_> org
[06:36] <sebsebseb> linux_: if the installers hve encryption
[06:36] <sebsebseb> do that
[06:36] <guiverc> uid=(number I'm after; probably 1000)
[06:36] <sebsebseb> linux_: see how it works together etc
[06:36] <sebsebseb> linux_: and donn't forget the encryp ion  key etc
[06:36] <zartarr> uid? no
[06:37] <sebsebseb> linux_: we can't really advise much else here, since this is only for Ubuntu as well not other oses really as well so
[06:37] <sebsebseb> linux_: maybe soe basic dual booting with Windows adivce, but that's about as far as it goes
[06:37] <zartarr> ok
[06:37] <sebsebseb> Ubuntu does allow to encrypt the hard disk
[06:37] <sebsebseb> in the installer
[06:37] <sebsebseb> not sure about your other two oses
[06:37] <guiverc> idea th0r:   maybe it assumes a redhat/centos or non-debian base; where first (default) user-id is 600 maybe?  a thought only
[06:37] <zartarr> server address on my mac is: smb://XYZDiskstation/zartarr/
[06:37] <linux_> So basically I use the USB installation program of Ubuntu to create the 3 partitions and then do a normal install of Ubuntu on partition one with full disk encryption?
[06:38] <th0r> guiverc, I may have to reconsider converting all my servers to nfs <smile>
[06:38] <zartarr> i click connect
[06:38] <zartarr> i enter username and password
[06:38] <zartarr> and i log in
[06:38] <zartarr> thats how i do it on my mac
[06:38] <sebsebseb> linux_: you make the partiotns first or on install, and say you want to encrypt the hard disk, I haven't used encrption myself, have heard stories of it going wrong for people being locked out later on etc
[06:38] <zartarr> does that help?
[06:38] <th0r> zartarr, smb?
[06:38] <zartarr> i don't know ...
[06:38] <zartarr> probably got that from google
[06:39] <sebsebseb> linux_: encrytion  like that is paranoid really I think,, for most people, unless maybe got some rather personal business data or something like that, or hmm  being naughtey and doing something il egal acstaully
[06:39] <guiverc> smb = small message block; SaMBa is just a neater name for IBM's original SMB protocol. (was IBM's not msft's)
[06:39] <naga007> hi
[06:39] <naga007> i need help
[06:39] <sebsebseb> naga007: with what
[06:39] <linux_> sebsebseb: I have been using fully encrypted systems for years but always with only Ubuntu using the entire disk space
[06:39] <zartarr> and the xyzdiskstation is my server name
[06:39] <naga007> this is firt i use thinkpad
[06:40] <sebsebseb> linux_: I guess you just encrypt the partion for each os
[06:40] <th0r> guiverc, yeah...but it seems the mac is accessing the drive via smb and not nfs....which is where I was originally.
[06:40] <sebsebseb> linux_: then should work
[06:40] <naga007> yap it's work well
[06:40] <th0r> zartarr, give me a sec to get a command made up.....
[06:40] <naga007> but..
[06:40] <sebsebseb> linux_: but if one encryptes the whole hard disk, then the other two aren't going to be able to work with it or easilly I guess
[06:40] <linux_> paranoid? heh?
[06:40] <naga007> the fingerprint is doesn't work
[06:40] <guiverc> yep... MAC also has NFS as unix; but they default to SaMBa/smb as most purchasors use windoze.  NFS is faster.
[06:41] <sebsebseb> linux_: plus if your boot loader isn't enrrypted, tehn maybe things aren't as secure as you think :d
[06:41] <sebsebseb> linux_: think I read an article explaining about that like a year or two ago actsaully
[06:41] <linux_> My entire life is on the laptop. Why whould I be totally insance crazy and not encrypt it. I usually take it everywhere. It is not only used inside my home.
[06:41] <sebsebseb> linux_: or was that for the bios hmm  probably boot loader, but I guess that to
[06:42] <th0r> zartarr, try this command 'sudo mount -t cifs -o user=user.password=pass //XYZDiskstation/zartarr/ /home/user/Desktop/synology
[06:42] <th0r> '
[06:42] <sebsebseb> linux_: depends what kind of data you got etc, and who you are etc, if encrption  is really worth it or not
[06:42] <sebsebseb> linux_: but I think you just need to play with the lap top do things like suggested above, and see what happens etc
[06:42] <th0r> zartarr, make the changes to user and pass but leave the rest as is
[06:43] <sebsebseb> linux_: but with three oses needs to be set up in a particular way I guess, or may get issues between them I guess
[06:43] <ducasse> zartarr: 'access denied' from an nfs server means your client doesn't have permissions to mount that share at all
[06:43] <th0r> zartarr, and make sure that is a comma between user and password
[06:43] <linux_> sebsebseb: I don't want to start a discussion about encryption. But I can not think of any reason not to encrypt.
[06:43] <guiverc> th0r: unless XYZDiskstation is in /etc/hosts it'll not know how to translate IP address i'm betting... mac probably adds it to the file.
[06:43] <sebsebseb> linux_: right well, play around with the lap top and encrytio then, test things, etc, to find out how it works or not
[06:43] <sebsebseb> best advice can give
[06:44] <linux_> sebsebseb: ok thx
[06:44] <th0r> zartarr, guiverc well...if that is the case...we can try the ip.....192.168.1.xx/zartarr
[06:44] <zartarr> mount error: could not resolve address for XYZDiskStation: Unknown error
[06:45] <th0r> zartarr, guiverc I notice that the smb command didn't use Volume1/zartarr...just zartarr
[06:45] <zartarr> ya, the only reason we were saying volume1 is because of this retarded synology website guide
[06:45] <zartarr> and it shows that to me when setting up nfs
[06:46] <zartarr> the diskstation server address is how the mac is using to login
[06:46] <th0r> zartarr, yeah....change the //XYZDiskstation/zartarr/ to //192.168.1.xx/zartarr/
[06:47] <zartarr> interesting
[06:47] <zartarr> so that went to the next line ~$
[06:47] <zartarr> it looks like synology mounted, it has an eject button beside it
[06:48] <zartarr> but its empty
[06:48] <th0r> zartarr, what do you see if you enter 'df'
[06:48] <guiverc> thought: the volume may be needed for some models (multiple drives) when raid is set to specific modes, but not others...
[06:48] <guiverc> type "mount" to view mounted drives.
[06:48] <zartarr> the synology is set to a their specific type of raid
[06:48] <th0r> zartarr, before you go too far....copy that command to your doc file <smile>
[06:48] <zartarr> which is there are 4 4TB drives, and 1 can fail
[06:49] <zartarr> ya bro its highlighted pink
[06:49] <guiverc> :)  @ th0r's advice... very smart.
[06:49] <th0r> zartarr, then you should be able to copy a small file to the drive, and then delete it
[06:50] <zartarr> what do you mean?
[06:50] <zartarr> its just under Devices, called synology... and i can eject it
[06:50] <zartarr> its empty
[06:50] <th0r> zartarr, as a test....drag a file to that empty drive and see if it shows up as a copy
[06:51] <th0r> zartarr, then try to delete it and make sure it goes away
[06:51] <zartarr> it just moved there
[06:51] <zartarr> it didn't copy there
[06:51] <th0r> zartarr, ok...then move it back <smile>
[06:52] <zartarr> and ya i can delete it
[06:52] <guiverc> ctrl key gets held down to COPY... if it moves don't delete but drag back.
[06:53] <th0r> zartarr, ok....it is mounted. Now.....it is mounted as a samba drive. An nfs drive would be faster but we haven't got that figured out yet.
[06:53] <zartarr> but my files aren't in it
[06:53] <zartarr> like its just empty
[06:53] <zartarr> on my mac, my files appear immediately
[06:53] <zartarr> and if my mac is 'samba' its super fast - totally happy with it
[06:53] <th0r> zartarr, are there supposed to be files on it?
[06:54] <zartarr> lol if there were no files in it, man i would so not be doing this
[06:54] <zartarr> 11 TB worth of porn there
[06:54] <zartarr> i mean, work documents
[06:54] <zartarr> family friendly channel
[06:54] <zartarr> :-D
[06:55] <th0r> zartarr, then it didn't mount correctly......back up a bit.
[06:55] <th0r> zartarr, type 'mount' and see what it says...see if you can find the drive mounted in the list
[06:56] <guiverc> (or it mounted a different part of whole drive)... when you next are in windoze; you could enter "net use" (from memory) which will show the detail used by windoze to mount the drive (what th0r is trying to guess here) ... thought)
[06:56] <zartarr> //192.168.1.xxx/Zartarr/ on /home/user/Desktop/synology type cifs (rw)
[06:56] <zartarr> i think so....
[06:56] <apb1963> Trying to watch hulu... getting protected content errors... It says to install hal, hal doesn't exist on Xenial... yada yada ... if you know the answer, please tell.  thank you
[06:56] <zartarr> thats the last line  in the output
[06:57] <th0r> zartarr, where did that uppercase Z come from?
[06:57] <guiverc> upper case Zartarr - should it have been all lower case... case matters on *nix (linux, mac..)
[06:58] <th0r> zartarr, the smb line you copied from the mac had it as a lower case z
[06:58] <zartarr> yup should be uppercase
[06:58] <zartarr> it shows uppercase on my mac, and also when i remotely loginto my nas via firefox
[06:58] <zartarr> nope upper case
[06:59] <zartarr> i just typed it out wrong
[07:00] <th0r> zartarr, first unmount the drive....'sudo umount /home/user/Desktop/synology'
[07:01] <th0r> zartarr, then mount it again...but leave off the / after Zartarr.....//192.168.1.xx/Zartarr
[07:02] <th0r> zartarr, then let me know if your files show up.
[07:02] <th0r> zartarr, if they do I will feel much better...I was so close at the beginning...just needed to get the volume/share info right <smile>
[07:03] <zartarr> nope nothing in it
[07:03] <guiverc> th0r:  i'd try mounting into a non-Desktop folder...
[07:04] <zartarr> where do you guys typically do it
[07:04] <zartarr> under Home ?
[07:04] <k_sze[work]> How do I properly allow a user to `nice` with a negative value? I tried to follow this answer but I still seem unable to `nice -n -5`. Do I need to completely log out or reboot?
[07:04] <k_sze[work]> http://askubuntu.com/a/34560
[07:04] <guiverc> zartarr: if you enter "df -h"  (disk free) what does it show (only the line related to that share!)
[07:05] <th0r> guiverc, we discussed that early on....he already had the folder made up so we kept it for now...but I agree something in /mnt/ would be better
[07:05] <zartarr> omg it shows info thats true size = 11t used 8t avail 2.8t use 75%
[07:05] <guiverc> zartarr:  commonly goes to /mnt, or subdirectory of /mnt.   me i'm lazy & mount to /pe2900 (for my pe2900 device..)
[07:05] <zartarr> that means something is working somewhere....
[07:06] <guiverc> th0r:  i've seen a person have issues before mounting a drive to desktop; that worked for unknown reason when mounted anywhere else..
[07:06] <zartarr> that makes me happy
[07:06] <th0r> zartarr, I would create a folder /mnt/zartarr to mount it to
[07:06] <zartarr> ok i don't even know where mnt is
[07:06] <zartarr> under home?
[07:06] <zartarr> i dont see mnt
[07:06] <zartarr> i just have like documents downloads music pictures videos trash desktop and home
[07:07] <th0r> zartarr, not in home.../home is a folder under the root '/'
[07:07] <guiverc> mounting in your /home folder is fine too!
[07:08] <guiverc> ps: follow th0r's advice not me... i'm giving thoughts... th0r will use if helpful!
[07:08] <th0r> zartarr, make a folder in your home called /zartarr...then mount to /home/user/zartarr
[07:08] <zartarr> just zartarr right
[07:08] <zartarr> not /zartarr
[07:08] <th0r> zartarr, right...my bad
[07:09] <zartarr> holy mother effin
[07:09] <zartarr> no im not telling you any good news
[07:09] <zartarr> are you friggin serious
[07:09] <zartarr> bros, never do anything on the desktop
[07:10] <zartarr> the desktop is as evil as the terminal
[07:11] <zartarr> th0r ... th0r wake up
[07:11] <zartarr> it works
[07:11] <th0r> zartarr, great! we all got a little smarter this evening!
[07:11] <zartarr> or did you rofl
[07:12] <zartarr> soo happy right now
[07:12] <zartarr> will i have to enter this command every bootup
[07:12] <zartarr> or is this going to be automatic now?
[07:13] <th0r> zartarr, a caveat for you....I initially set up my cifs drives to mount in fstab at boot. but I found if the server was offline for some reason the desktop would freeze and not boot.
[07:13] <th0r> zartarr, so I created a little one line bash script to mount my drives...it is easy...if you are ready to make notes
[07:13] <zartarr> ok cool
[07:14] <guiverc> zartarr:  the command you entered is for this time only; but you can make permanent by adding a line in /etc/fstab (file systems table) as per th0r's advice.  if device is OFF, it'll be slow to boot as it waits for device for some time,, you can have it mount when you tell it.. there are many options.
[07:14] <th0r> zartarr, first line of a bash script is always '#!/bin/sh' without the quotes
[07:14] <zartarr> you know thats interesting this slow to boot or freezing happens on the mac tooo...
[07:14] <zartarr> and then i gotta reconnect or restart and stuff
[07:14] <zartarr> interesting
[07:14] <th0r> zartarr, then the second line is the command you just entered
[07:15] <nod0n> 7zs error about now space left on device is not so easy to understand: "7z ERROR: E_FAIL"
[07:15] <zartarr>  sudo mount -t cifs -o user=th0r,password=zartarr //192.168.1.XXX/Zartarr /home/user/zartarr
[07:16] <zartarr> that is the god-mode line of wording that worked th0r
[07:16] <th0r> zartarr, disappointingly close to the very first command line I sent you <smile>
[07:16] <zartarr> you know i have a feeling
[07:17] <zartarr> it was just all the desktop to begin with
[07:17] <zartarr> but probably not, its a combination of everything
[07:17] <th0r> zartarr, not quite...we had the volume/share wrong
[07:17] <zartarr> including setting it up in synology for the squash etc...
[07:17] <zartarr> ya that to
[07:17] <zartarr> thanks buddy
[07:17] <zartarr> i think you spent a good
[07:17] <zartarr> we started at 21;30
[07:18] <zartarr> 2 hours....
[07:18] <th0r> I was considering converting my servers to nfs...but I think I will just squat over the campfire isnstead
[07:18] <th0r> guiverc, thanks for the help.
[07:18] <zartarr> my motto is, if it works don't change it
[07:19] <zartarr> ya guiverc, those chime ins were golden
[07:19] <guiverc> th0r deserves the credit...
[07:20] <zartarr> so what do you suggest i do to make this auto
[07:20] <zartarr> or just whenever i need it type that line item in ?
[07:20] <guiverc> zartarr:  th0r gave his advice... you were too happy to really notice..
[07:20] <th0r> zartarr, create a bash script, link it to /usr/local/bin, and all you will need to do is type the name of the script
[07:20] <hateball> th0r, zartarr you may consider using autofs to deal with the "not online at boot" issues and such
[07:21] <hateball> then it will be mounted when you try accessing it instead
[07:21] <th0r> zartarr, I have three servers in the house...so to mount them I just type 'mNimbus' or mGimp or mAlex
[07:21] <guiverc> zartarr:  I too mount via bash_script my SAMBA/cifs devices (aids speedy bootup), my NFS drives all automount as the slower boot is minimal with NFS when devices aren't on/up.
[07:22] <zartarr> ok thats foreign to me
[07:22] <zartarr> #!/bin/sh
[07:22] <zartarr> and then the line we used
[07:22] <zartarr> whats a bash script
[07:22] <zartarr> where do i create it
[07:22] <zartarr> how do i create it
[07:22] <zartarr> how do i link it
[07:22] <zartarr> if i see th0r left the room, i understand
[07:22] <zartarr> ;)
[07:22] <th0r> zartarr, yup...those two lines make up a bash script. You create it with any text editor
[07:23] <ali_> wasuuuuuup
[07:23] <zartarr> ok
[07:23] <zartarr> i put those 2 lines in a text editor
[07:23] <zartarr> so i have to save it as the name i want to execute it?
[07:23] <th0r> zartarr, name it what you want....mZartarr for instance. Then link it into the path with 'ln -s /home/user/mZartarr /usr/local/bin/Zartarr'
[07:24] <zartarr> what does link it into the path mean?
[07:24] <zartarr> its asking where to save it
[07:25] <th0r> zartarr, save it to home/user
[07:25] <guiverc> zartarr:  sudo ln -s /home/user/mZarrtarr /usr/local/bin/mZarrtarr   (first is real file; second is path to link; any files in /usr/local/bin are runnable to all users)
[07:25] <zartarr> i just see like desktop/documents/downloads/music etc
[07:26] <zartarr> no user
[07:26] <zartarr> just save it here then?
[07:26] <zartarr> this is where i saved the zartarr folder
[07:26] <guiverc> "user" being your name/username; guiverc for me.
[07:26] <zartarr> ohh ok
[07:27] <th0r> zartarr, also you need to make it executable...chmod a+x /home/user/mZartarr (or whatever you called it)
[07:27] <zartarr> ok so i saved it under home/user
[07:27] <zartarr> so now do this chmod thing in terminal right
[07:28] <th0r> zartarr right
[07:28] <zartarr> ok done
[07:28] <zartarr> what after chmod?
[07:28] <th0r> zartarr, then link it to /usr/local/bin
[07:28] <th0r>  sudo ln -s /home/user/mZarrtarr /usr/local/bin/mZarrtarr
[07:28] <th0r> or whatever you called it
[07:29] <zartarr> ok done
[07:29] <zartarr> so evertime i log into my computer
[07:29] <zartarr> i go into terminal and type mZartarr ?
[07:29] <th0r> right
[07:29] <zartarr> it will launch?
[07:30] <th0r> zartarr, did you get all that in your notes?
[07:30] <guiverc> th0r: you could also do a ln in the "desktop" folder so there's a GUI thingy to click instead of terminal...
[07:30] <zartarr> ya i did
[07:30] <zartarr> confused about one thing
[07:30] <zartarr> in the sudo ln -s
[07:30] <th0r> guiverc, yeah, but I hate to get things too cluttered up. we already skipped the /home/user/bin part <smile>
[07:30] <zartarr> why did we do zarrtarr
[07:30] <zartarr> instead of zartarr
[07:31] <zartarr> i have a feeling that was just typo
[07:31] <zartarr> so i fixed it
[07:31] <zartarr> how do i delete whatever i created accidently
[07:31] <th0r> zartarr, it should have been whatever your filename is.... guiverc typed it differently than I did
[07:31] <zartarr> kk
[07:32] <guiverc> zartarr:  no reason.. it's typo on our behalf... use "rm filename" to delete "filename" ... follow th0r's advice not me.
[07:32] <th0r> zartarr, it was a type in the ln command...so delete the old link (sudo rm /usr/local/bin/mZarrtarr) and then do the ln with the right info
[07:33] <zartarr> cool
[07:33] <zartarr> learnt so many little things on the way
[07:33] <zartarr> like rm means remove
[07:33] <th0r> zartarr, you could have left the wrong one...it just wouldn't do anything
[07:33] <zartarr> kk good to know
[07:33] <zartarr> ty
[07:34] <guiverc> yep rm=remove
[07:34] <zartarr> ok boys its 1:34am here in Calgary... uh could i ask 1 request, because i don't know when we will meet again... do you think we could get my printer working....
[07:35] <zartarr> im super drowsy, so if your all out im game and beat as well
[07:35] <guiverc> unix/*nix has lots of shortened names; often two chars.  ls=list, fs=filesystem...
[07:35] <zartarr> http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadend.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfc9130cw_us&os=128&dlid=dlf006893_000&flang=4&type3=625
[07:35] <th0r> zartarr, it is 0235 here in TX, and I think I will quit while I am ahead. Cups...printers....is a game for another day
[07:36] <zartarr> ok sweet
[07:36] <zartarr> i agree
[07:36] <zartarr> i dont know how your up that late
[07:36] <zartarr> p.s. if calgary crashes
[07:36] <zartarr> find me a job in oil and gas in texas
[07:36] <th0r> zartarr, I will advise you to install cups so you are ready for the printer effort
[07:36] <zartarr> ok
[07:36] <zartarr> im going to search cups and pastebinit on my own here
[07:36] <zartarr> ull be proud of me
[07:36] <gnugpl> any suggestions of a good porn with nuns ?
[07:37] <th0r> zartarr, enjoy the 'work files'
[07:37] <zartarr> thanks guys
[07:37] <zartarr> goodnight all
[07:37] <th0r> guiverc, thanks again
[07:37] <th0r> nite all
[07:37] <guiverc> th0r: most welcome.  well done yourself though.
[07:40] <bermdingetje> Hello
[07:40] <bermdingetje> Does anyone know why atop is running my /run/ 100%
[07:40] <bermdingetje> 101328	/run/atop
[07:41] <bermdingetje> https://paste.cedsys.nl/p/2b46ec3e-59ff-4181-8802-2d149349e46c
[07:41] <bermdingetje> (ssl cert is broken, I know :( )
[07:41] <bermdingetje> Why is that? It's really weird
[07:43] <gnugpl> why do you need ubuntu when you can download windows from torrents for free ?
[07:44] <maxcell_> how install mate in ubuntu?
[07:44] <gnugpl> test
[07:44] <guiverc> gnugpl:  windoze from torrents may be modified; have hidden malware, and far beyond the standard spying done by msft.  many of us have morals (know right from wrong)
[07:46] <ducasse> maxcell_: install mate-desktop-environment
[07:46] <guiverc> bermdingetje, i can't see file sorry;  but guessing top/htop/atop take a 'glance' at system, assume its the normal for a period of time; thus see themselves running at higher % of cpu than they are when they're not glancing at system...   more guess as i couldn't see site.
[07:46] <maxcell_> ducasse, can just mate?
[07:47] <ducasse> maxcell_: ?
[07:47] <bermdingetje> guiverc: aha, but it's no worry's to close the process?
[07:48] <guiverc> bermdingetje, what is first column please...
[07:48] <bermdingetje> 101328	/run/atop
[07:48] <bermdingetje> 101768	/run
[07:49] <guiverc> can view in midori & lynx.. (I assumed lynx was showing less than full detail... it wasn't)..
[07:51] <guiverc> sorry bermdingetje i don't know what i'm looking at; the two columns are far less than i see if i run atop
[07:51] <bermdingetje> Oh, no
[07:51] <bermdingetje> I run du --max-depth=1 /run | sort -n -r
[07:51] <bermdingetje> and atop takes 100%
[07:53] <guiverc> bermdingetje, sorry i don't understand your question.  du (disk usage) will take awhile to run; the sort has to wait until it has all detail to sort... atop link confuses me.
[07:53] <bermdingetje> allrigt
[07:54] <bermdingetje> atop consumes 100% of my /run/
[07:54] <bermdingetje> this means
[07:54] <maxcell_> how its called the app that is a yellow Note in xfce?
[07:55] <bermdingetje> All my other processes cannot run because of the fact that atop consumes 100% of my disk in /run/
[07:55] <bermdingetje> but I can close atom?
[07:55] <bermdingetje> atop*?
[07:57] <guiverc> atop or any sys.viewer can't get a full view of system, to be 100% accurate they'd steal all processing data.. they only represent what they see...   du is a disk command, so naturally you'd expect disk to be high... for me it also includes network data; as most of my storage is NFS on servers...   but I don't see your problem/question sorry.
[07:58] <guiverc> r/processing data/processing resources/
[07:59] <k1l_> bermdingetje: what is your real issue?
[08:00] <bermdingetje> k1l_: atop.pid took 100% of my /run/
[08:00] <bermdingetje> k1l_: I just removed the .pid
[08:00] <bermdingetje> k1l_: all my processes can work again now
[08:00] <k1l_> bermdingetje: "took 100% of my /run/". what command did show it?
[08:00] <maxcell_> :O
[08:01] <bermdingetje> du --max-depth=1 /run | sort -n -r
[08:02] <bermdingetje> k1l_: du --max-depth=1 /run | sort -n -r
[08:02] <k1l_>  /run is a tmpfs
[08:02] <bermdingetje> k1l_: 100% disk space
[08:03] <k1l_> bermdingetje: again: what is your issue? atom editor took all the ram?
[08:03] <bermdingetje> and my other processes could not spawn, because of the uniffisient diskspace
[08:03] <bermdingetje> k1l_: no, atop
[08:03] <bermdingetje> k1l_: that was a typo
[08:03] <bermdingetje> k1l_: atop the process viewer took all
[08:03] <bermdingetje> k1l_: But I resolved that by removing atop.pid
[08:03] <bermdingetje> k1l_: thanks for the help thouggh
[08:06] <lkeijser> hi, I have mirrored an entire ubuntu repository using debmirror. I want to delete some packages from it and replace them with older versions. I have removed all Packages* and Release* files from the structure and I'm now generating new ones after I signed every package with my own gpg key. Is this a correct procedure?
[08:07] <Ben64> lkeijser: sounds like a bad solution to a problem
[08:07] <lkeijser> Ben64, indeed, but I'm totally unfamiliar with ubuntu repositories and running out of time :/
[08:07] <Ben64> lkeijser: why don't you explain what your goal is
[08:07] <lkeijser> ok
[08:08] <lkeijser> I need to update all my servers using the normal repository, but in it there's a version of mysql that I don't want to update to. Instead I have downloaded an older version of MySQL (still newer than what I have installed now) and I want to update to that specific version
[08:09] <Ben64> why an older version of mysql
[08:10] <lkeijser> Ben64, because "the developers tested against that version"
[08:10] <lkeijser> after almost 3 days of trying to explain that the newer version is just as good, if better, I gave up
[08:10] <k1l_> lkeijser: you can force a specific version from the repos with apt. but since mysql is heavily dependend on security updates you will need to have the latest version to make sure you are patched with security updates
[08:11] <lkeijser> k1l_, that's what I tried to explain to various managers/developers/projectleaders
[08:11] <Ben64> yeah, you can pin the package, doesn't involve making your own repositories. doesn't solve the issue of security though
[08:11] <k1l_> lkeijser: that is only the first one i find on ubuntu.com/usn : http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3078-1/
[08:12] <lkeijser> k1l_, yep, I know it
[08:12] <lkeijser> trust me, 3 days of discussing this ... I really gave up on these people
[08:12] <Ben64> show them that exact page, ask them if they want to deal with a possible root exploit
[08:13] <lkeijser> well, it's worth a try
[08:13] <lkeijser> the life of a sysadmin ...
[08:13] <docgi> How will I get the latest update on firefox? I have it on 48.0. The 49.0 was already released recently.
[08:13] <docgi> Running Ubuntu 16.04
[08:13] <k1l_> ask the management the costs of beeing in the new because the clients data got stolen.
[08:14] <Ben64> docgi: last i heard it was held back for reasons
[08:14] <alkisg> I think that gnome-software doesn't list any applications that are in non-official repositories, like PPAs. Can anyone else verify that? /me is still searching for an existing bug report for that, but has only found LP #1578473 so far...
[08:14] <k1l_> docgi: the browser packages get tested after release and are then shipped in the repos.
[08:25] <NeoFrontier> How do I get a pppoe connection working via wifi on ubuntu ?
[08:27] <z-80> buenos días
[08:28] <z-80> alguien me puede ayudarte?
[08:28] <k1l_> !es | z-80
[08:28] <z-80> ups
[08:29] <z-80> Es que creo que están durmiendo o ocupado xD
[08:29] <z-80> thanks k1l_
[08:29] <rumflump> z-80: tambien, puedes /join #espanol acqui, por general
[08:30] <dafhew> is it normal that Ubuntu does 100% hard drive use and is almost unresponsive?
[08:30] <mcphail> dafhew: no
[08:30] <z-80> rumflump, gracias! :)
[08:30] <k1l_> dafhew: can you show a "df -h" on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[08:31] <dafhew> no
[08:32] <z-80> k1l_, perdona, te puedo hacer una pregunta respecto a que puedo hacer para que mi ordenador vaya más ligero? apenas tengo cosas y parece que le cueste arrancar. Es como si tuviera muchos procesos.
[08:33] <k1l_> z-80: please use english in here. for spanish please use #ubuntu-es like the bot told you already
[08:33] <maxcell_> dafhew, that have sounded like windows
[08:33] <grimel> Hi, all. Lately I've been experiencing some problems with Firefox on Ubuntu - it gets "unresponsive script" when it stumbles upon a page with a lot of JavaScript on it. I tried to use Firefox on Windows and Chromium or Midori on Ubuntu - I don't experience such a problem. And also I notice that if firefox session lasts some long time  (3-4 hours) it gets laggy even on light pages so I need to restart it. What can cause a problem here? Does it
[08:33] <grimel>  have to do something with my integrated graphic card?
[08:34] <dafhew> lol, I think it is a particular program I am running causing this excessive use
[08:39] <chriii> hi guys, I want to install 32bit amarok on 64bit xenial, but it's not possible because amarok:i386 depends on amarok-common:i386. the problem is that amarok common is architecture idependet, so no installation candidate is available for amarok-common:i386. how can I tell ubuntu to use amarok-common instead of :i386 for amarok:i386?
[08:41] <Triffid_Hunter> chriii: can't. 32 bit apps use 32 bit libraries
[08:42] <maxcell_> chriii, so you already dpkg enable multiarchitecture
[08:42] <mysticTot> Hi , I need to create a portable vm Image of Ubuntu with mainline kernel?
[08:42] <chriii> Triffid_Hunter: amarok-common is architecture independend... it contains only image files and so on..
[08:43] <chriii> maxcell_: yes, I'm already running 32bit applications.
[08:43] <Triffid_Hunter> chriii: sounds like you'll have to fix the package then, maybe create an amarok-common:i386 that's a straight copy of the normal one
[08:44] <Ben64> chriii: install common, then install amarok, pastebin result
[08:44] <mysticTot> I need to distribute this vm Image to everyone.
[08:45] <maxcell_> chriii, apt-get -d amarok-common
[08:45] <maxcell_> chriii, it will download the package but not install
[08:45] <maxcell_> chriii, than we figure it out how to dpkg build a 386 package
[08:47] <chriii> maxcell_: did that, I have now the .deb
[08:48] <k1l_> chriii: why 32bit amarok on a 64bit system?
[08:48] <maxcell_> chriii, trying to figure how to make that deb being build as i386
[08:48] <Ben64> its not a platform specific package
[08:49] <maxcell_> chriii, try that
[08:49] <maxcell_> chriii, cd /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:50] <maxcell_> chriii, dpkg build-dep -a i386 package
[08:53] <maxcell_> chriii, i think its not going to work idk what to do =(
[08:54] <redstack> hi
[08:54] <redstack> anyone knows how to make xfs partition? i was bought new drive
[08:55] <maxcell_> chriii, download the amarok:i386 with apt-get -d and than you do: apt-get build-dep -a architecture amarok
[08:55] <Ben64> !xfs | redstack
[08:55] <maxcell_> chriii, i think its gona work this way
[08:56] <redstack> !nfs | redstack
[08:56] <chriii> maxcell_: thanks, I'll try later. I'm currently trying out something different..
[08:58] <maxcell_> chriii, i think that the package being :i386 it should take the amarok-common-noarch and build it in 32bits automatically
[08:58] <maxcell_> am wrong?
[08:59] <maxcell_> chriii, the guy in #programing channel says that its irrelevant because the nonarch amarok-common is just some icons and stuffs like that, because "noarch" is irrelevant things that makes no difference because aren't compiled
[09:01] <chriii> maxcell_: is it possible to create some kind of a link from amarok-common:i386 to amarok-common?
[09:01] <Odius> hey
[09:01] <maxcell_> i don't get the idea
[09:01] <Ben64> chriii: so why do you need 32 bit amarok anyway
[09:01] <Odius> so I'm running Ubuntu 10.04...wondering if I'm able to upgrade ?
[09:02] <Ben64> !eolupgrade | Odius
[09:02] <Odius> thanks ben
[09:02] <Ben64> Odius: at this point probably better to install 16.04 though
[09:02] <Odius> means I have to lose my current data and reinstall from scratch?
[09:02] <Ben64> Odius: backup first
[09:03] <Odius> well it's an old webserver box, if there's a way for me to upgrade / update without having to start from scratch that would deifnitely be preferabl
[09:03] <Triffid_Hunter> Odius: hi
[09:03] <Odius> well I'll be damned, heya Triffid_Hunter :D
[09:04] <Odius> didn't expect to see you in these parts <3
[09:04] <Ben64> Odius: the upgrade would take you to 12.04, which loses support in 7 months
[09:04] <chriii> Ben64: I had a lot of problems running WebEx on ubuntu. after some month I fixed the problems which where mainly because of 64 bit applications trying to use the sound card. but since WebEx is working amarok stopped working, that's why I want to try to use amarok 32bit.
[09:04] <Odius> ben64 - for now, that will do.
[09:05] <Ben64> Odius: you still need to back up anyway, upgrades don't always work properly
[09:05] <Ben64> then upgrade again before April
[09:05] <k1l_> Odius: do-release-upgrade in terminal
[09:06] <Ben64> chriii: doesn't really make sense but ok
[09:07] <chriii> Ben64: it
[09:07] <chriii> Ben64: it's worth a try ;)
[09:07] <k1l_> chriii: that doesnt make sense. webex is some java stuff, right? i dont see that related to amarok
[09:07] <Odius> k1l_ - thanks, am giving it a try :)
[09:08] <k1l_> Odius: make sure you have a backup.
[09:08] <Odius> if it breaks, it breaks.
[09:08] <writer> hi all!
[09:09] <Odius> ahoy hoy writer
[09:09] <Odius> aws, or not.
[09:12] <chriii> k1l_: you're right, but for some reason java 64bit had problems accessing the sound card, java 32bit does not have problems. that's why I just want to try whether the 32bit application runs better..
[09:13] <k1l_> chriii: i suspect your system is a mess and that is just a sympton.
[09:19] <bkauff> oi
[09:22] <brunch875> I want to ctrl-alt-f6 and launch the graphical mode there too. How do I achieve this? startx doesn't work
[09:24] <Triffid_Hunter> brunch875: you have to get the getty off that tty so X can use it, it used to be in /etc/inittab last time I checked.. X needs to be told that 7 isn't the first tty to look at as well, not sure where that setting is
[09:24] <Odius> ah damn, getting upgrade prerequisites failed.
[09:25] <Odius> no update for me :(
[09:26] <brunch875> Triffid_Hunter: Is there no other way? I remember being able to startx on another tty on my old computer, but it doesn't seem to work here; just a black screen
[09:27] <Triffid_Hunter> brunch875: well startx on any terminal should create a new X on an unused terminal >= 7. does your black screen have a mouse cursor? maybe your default session doesn't start any visible programs?
[09:28] <k1l_> Odius: what is the error? look at /var/log/dist-upgrade/
[09:28] <brunch875> Triffid_Hunter: not at all: just a black screen
[09:29] <Triffid_Hunter> brunch875: anything interesting in logs?
[09:29] <brunch875> I don't know where I should look, I have little experience ☺
[09:29] <k1l_> Odius: eventually you need to change your sources to old-releases. see !eol
[09:29] <k1l_> !eol | Odius
[09:33] <brunch875> Triffid_Hunter: /var/log/Xorg.0.log looks a bit wonky indeed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23215057/
[09:33] <Triffid_Hunter> brunch875: presumably it'd be Xorg.1.log if you already had an X session running somewhere
[09:33] <brunch875> yeah, on tty7
[09:33] <brunch875> oh
[09:34] <Triffid_Hunter> brunch875: curious, is that saying your screen isn't connected?
[09:35] <brunch875> Triffid_Hunter: at which line?
[09:36] <Triffid_Hunter> brunch875: the second half of the file
[09:37] <brunch875> The "DFP-0" thing? I don't even recognize that name
[09:38] <brunch875> Triffid_Hunter: this is what xrandr reports http://paste.ubuntu.com/23215073/
[09:38] <Triffid_Hunter> brunch875: DFP is digital flat panel, ie built-in laptop screen
[09:39] <brunch875> that would be eDP-1 according to xrandr
[09:39] <brunch875> is it the same thing?
[09:39] <brunch875> I'm certain I'm using eDP-1 right now, since I can use xrandr to change its gamma
[09:41] <brunch875> what surprises me is ubuntu does launch fine but this doesn't :s
[09:46] <v3n0m> Hey
[09:46] <v3n0m> Guys I have a problem in my terminal
[09:47] <k1l_> !details | v3n0m
[09:47] <ikonia> just state your problem and people will help if they can
[09:49] <v3n0m> Okay, so when I type a wrong command in terminal it says,
[09:49] <v3n0m> WARNING:root:could not open file '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/openvpn.list'
[09:49] <v3n0m> no matter what sort of wrong command it is
[09:49] <v3n0m> and then it gives me the error that command not found.
[09:51] <v3n0m> Help me out please if anyone knows.
[09:52] <k1l_> v3n0m: please run a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here
[09:53] <v3n0m> OKay
[09:53] <v3n0m> http://termbin.com/9jn8
[09:53] <v3n0m> Here it is.
[09:54] <k1l_> 1) that openvpn.list is empty 2) its missing global read permissions.
[09:54] <k1l_> so if you dont need that anyway just remove it
[09:56] <cruelplatypus67> hi
[09:56] <v3n0m> okay
[09:56] <v3n0m> I will remove it.
[09:56] <cruelplatypus67> im using elementary os
[09:56] <v3n0m> It's only for the update of openvpn right?
[09:56] <cruelplatypus67> is is good or should i switch to ubuntu?
[09:56] <suresh_> hii all, while doing apt-get update in ubuntu 16.04 sometimes i am getting hash-sum mismatch
[09:56] <k1l_> cruelplatypus67: you ask in #ubuntu. we cant support elementary OS. we can only support the official flavours
[09:57] <bazhang> cruelplatypus67, this is ubuntu support
[09:57] <suresh_> why it is giving only hash-sum mismatch
[09:57] <bazhang> cruelplatypus67, try an offtopic channel for polling
[09:57] <v3n0m> k1l_
[09:57] <k1l_> suresh_: sometimes that error comes up, if the mirror you use is not fully updated yet.
[09:58] <v3n0m> I can remove it right? And it's only for the update of openvpn?
[09:58] <k1l_> v3n0m: its 0 byte size. so its empty.
[09:58] <suresh_> i am using http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[09:58] <suresh_> kll:
[10:01] <PCatinean> Does anyone know why locally when I use wkhtmltopdf library to generate pdf from html I have a nice helvetica light font
[10:02] <PCatinean> and when I do it on a ubuntu server with the same library it goes to some default font
[10:03] <cruelplatypus67> hi
[10:03] <cruelplatypus67> any good chanes for notmal chat
[10:03] <cruelplatypus67> normal*
[10:03] <k1l_> cruelplatypus67: ##chat
[10:04] <k1l_> suresh_: you can wait some time and try again
[10:04] <k1l_> suresh_: or you do "sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*" and then run apt-get update again
[10:09] <suresh_> k1l: why apt-get update giving hash-sum mismatch on sometimes
[10:09] <suresh_> and sometimes it is working properly
 suresh_: sometimes that error comes up, if the mirror you use is not fully updated yet.
[10:41] <boxrick1> What is the easiest way to generate a .dsc file? I have built a .deb file using "fakeroot debian/rules binary" which works fine.
[10:46] <nimms> boxrick1: `man debsign`, also see here: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/build.html
[10:49] <boxrick1> So running a dpkh-buildpackage generates me an error: dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream tarball found at ../cobbler_2.6.11.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz}
[10:49] <boxrick1> This is an extracted tarbar which has been modified slightly, so is there a correct way to generate the orig file or can I literally tar up my directory and do it manually?
[10:51] <BluesKaj> HIyas all
[10:54] <redwolf> o/ BluesKaj
[10:55] <BluesKaj> hi redwolf
[10:55] <papabur> howdoyourmawholedirectory?
[10:56] <papabur> how do you rm a whole dir
[10:56] <hateball> papabur: rmdir
[10:57] <papabur> ty!
[10:57] <hateball> papabur: or rm -r $directory if the directory contains files
[10:57] <papabur> yes it does
[10:57] <papabur> ok
[10:58] <hateball> papabur: rmdir will only delete empty directories
[10:58] <\9> papabur: be very careful with rm -r because it will mercilessly delete the directories and their contents permanently
[10:59] <papabur> ok good
[10:59] <papabur>  troubles installing pronterface
[11:01] <papabur> ok last thing
[11:01] <papabur> iwant to make sure i got everything
[11:02] <papabur>  is there a way to search like /home for any traces of printrun/pronterface
[11:02] <papabur> and havethem removed also
[11:05] <boxrick1> Use grep / sed?
[11:05] <TheHackOps> Where is the best place to file a bug report
[11:06] <hateball> !bug | TheHackOps
[11:06] <boxrick1> I am trying to build a  pbuilder  package , dkpg builds it all fine, however running it inside pbuilder generates this error: dh_install: cobbler missing files: etc/apache2/conf-available/*
[11:07] <TheHackOps> Alright I first need to figure out who's fault it is. Could be linux kernel or it could be ubuntu
[11:07] <boxrick1> Where does it try and find this location, in its chroot?
[11:07] <TheHackOps> "Attemp to read or write outside of disk 'hd1'"
[11:07] <TheHackOps> Every so often this happens
[11:07] <hateball> papabur: find ~/ -name pronter*
[11:07] <TheHackOps> And is "fixed" by going back to the last kernel version
[11:08] <TheHackOps> AFAIK "nothing" is causing it
[11:08] <TheHackOps> Could even be a problem in grub
[11:12] <gu3stZA> close
[11:22] <connecting> hey anybody from moon
[11:24] <bitanarchy> is there a channel for ubuntu-mate arm64?
[11:27] <hateball> !arm
[11:38] <redstack> is the PC is 21+ years old, connect USB 3.0 from behind
[12:02] <akis>  hi all. i am running 16.04.1 fully updated and i discovered today that mozilla doesn't support adobe flash although it is installed. any idea to make it work?
[12:03] <ikonia> it does support it
[12:03] <ikonia> it's just that flash is dead on linux
[12:03] <ikonia> so there is not %100 compatability with all sites and functions
[12:06] <akis> ikonia: if it's dead why my other machine is normally supported?
[12:06] <ikonia> define supported
[12:07] <ikonia> how are you determaining that it's not supported
[12:08] <akis> ikonia: i tried to run ookla speed test and i saw that exists no support. My other machine running 16.04.1 too runs adobe flash normally
[12:10] <hateball> ikonia: to be fair, adobe just released a new (v23) beta of npapi flash
[12:11] <morsnowski> why are you trying to force you box to support a technology that is so obviously dead. just let it die :)
[12:11] <arthur_dog> hello
[12:12] <arthur_dog> lol
[12:12] <arthur_dog> kek
[12:12] <akis> ikonia: i am afraid that something happened recetly
[12:13] <arthur_dog> hello'
[12:13] <arthur_dog> nicetomeatyoo
[12:14] <hateball> akis: how did you install the flash plugin? "sudo apt install flashplugin-installer" ?
[12:14] <arthur_dog> yeah
[12:14] <arthur_dog> that woul work
[12:14] <arthur_dog> woul=would
[12:14] <akis> hateball: through ubuntu software center and worked properly
[12:15] <ikonia> hateball: it's not flash though, it's just the wrapper
[12:15] <ikonia> hateball: it's pretty worthless from a support point of view
[12:15] <ikonia> akis: how did you install flash on your new machine
[12:15] <hateball> ikonia: hmmm? the flashplugin-installer you mean? yes
[12:17] <akis> ikonia: through ubuntu software center and worked properly. I followed the same way oon 4 machines and worked properly.
[12:17] <hateball> akis: if you go to "about:plugins" in firefox, is flash listed?
[12:17] <MoL0ToV> during ubuntu 16.04 installation 3 partition is created scsi1 n°1 ESP scsi1 n°2 ext4 scsi n°3 swap. someone can tell me what is ESP partition?
[12:19] <akis> hateball: no!
[12:19] <mcphail> MoL0ToV: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFI_system_partition
[12:19] <hateball> akis: try "sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[12:20] <k1l_> MoL0ToV: please run "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" in terminal and show the url here
[12:20] <amdp> hi, is there any dmg file for ubuntu to be mounted on a mac and burnt on a usb?
[12:21] <SwedeMike> amdp: you can download the iso and convert it. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[12:22] <SwedeMike> amdp: or https://business.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-drive-for-mac-in-os-x--cms-21253 if you want to use cli tools available on OSX
[12:22] <akis> hateball: trying...
[12:22] <hateball> akis: it should, if it is working properly, show the download progress scroll by
[12:23] <hateball> akis: and you'll need to restart firefox after it is done
[12:23] <amdp> SwedeMike: is there a way to install ubuntu directly on a target macbook?
[12:23] <amdp> like I have two macbooks and I'd like to install ubuntu from one to another older mac
[12:24] <SwedeMike> amdp: no idea.
[12:25] <akis> hateball: it worked. adobe is present again. thank you for the advise to reinstall it.
[12:25] <amdp> SwedeMike: thanks, that's useful, usually people start to invent ways to do stuff even when they don't know. I appreciate, I'll give it a try with your suggested method.
[12:25] <MoL0ToV> k1l_, http://termbin.com/71fy
[12:25] <hateball> akis: like ikonia said, the installer/wrapper is quite terrible. it downloads a script, then tries to fetch libflashplayer.so from adobe. if anything fails there (like internet dropping), it wont retry
[12:26] <k1l_> MoL0ToV: that is the EFI partition.
[12:26] <akis> hateball: i am sure that the issue appeared during a system's update.
[12:26] <MoL0ToV> grub is placed in ext4 partition or in efi? what contains efi partition? is needed?
[12:26] <amdp> SwedeMike: is there a 32 bit version?
[12:26] <Trekka12> Hello, I am new to Ubuntu and trying to figure out some permission stuff, was wondering if I want a groups members to be the only one able to access directories, how I can accomplish this and what the permissions need to be?
[12:27] <SwedeMike> amdp: don't know. Use the CLI method I also pasted link to.
[12:27] <hateball> !permissions | Trekka12
[12:30] <amdp> SwedeMike: ok!
[12:30] <Trekka12> I already read through: http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_lts0090.php but I found it lacking some details concerning whether the "owner" of directory can be group alone and thereby also give permissions to the groups users, or however that works :/ but i will check what u sent as well
[12:30] <morsnowski> akis hateball why don't you go the foot path and download the plugin and copy it into the addin folder, I haven't bothered with the installer in years
[12:31] <Trekka12> hateball, where were that command meant to be inputted? cuz in ssh it isn't giving anything
[12:32] <hateball> morsnowski: That's what I'd do, but it's not the supported way
[12:32] <morsnowski> hateball, PFO supported way :)
[12:32] <hateball> Trekka12: You were meant to read the URL ubottu gave you
[12:33] <Trekka12> I am as well, but figured you wrote a command that was an alternative information source?
[12:33] <hateball> Trekka12: no, it just triggers the bot
[12:33] <hateball> !bot
[12:33] <Trekka12> ohh
[12:34] <Trekka12> my bad, didn't know
[12:38] <modprime> whats a good backup program for backing up the ubuntu system drive without having to shut down the system?
[12:40] <Tobias92> I can't get my HP ScanJet 5300c to work on Ubuntu, even though it has worked before. When I can, all I get is a short humm (which also happens when the scanner is functioning), and then nothing. Afterwards, `scanimage -L` does not pick up the scanner anymore. When I unplug and plug in again, the scanner is found. Also, dmesg is crawling with "reset low-speed USB device number 2 using ohci-pci". Has anyone got a suggestion?
[12:40] <Tobias92> *When I scan
[12:42] <modprime> laptop?
[12:42] <Tobias92> modprime, are you asking me?
[12:43] <roxer> No menubar or launcher after updates, works when i login with guest.  Tried reinstall gnome
[12:43] <roxer> Any ideas?
[12:49] <Trekka12> ok hateball finally finished reading through the link the bot refered me to for permissions, but still not quite sure what differs user from group or what "others" include, and what does the concept of "ownership" of a directory mean in linux? what if group has ownership, what it means, etc? any reference where I can read about this?
[12:53] <darkeye> roxer :  maybe  some configuration crashs unity?
[12:53] <darkeye> try moving ~/.config to some where else
[12:53] <ouroumov> Trekka12: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_03_04.html
[12:54] <vyadhaka> trying to install mainline kernel to fix a bug, which one is the latest stable - 4.7?
[12:55] <roxer> Cant find ~/.Config
[12:56] <vyadhaka> #linux
[12:58] <akik> roxer: it's lower case c
[12:58] <roxer> I know, writeing on my cellphone
[13:01] <uddane> has anyone set up samba on 16.04? what is the best version? I'm trying to connect to a iMac (OS X) and a FreeBSD 10.3 on my LAN
[13:02] <ropo> Burning data into disc using Brasero, it's taking way too long, normal?
[13:05] <ash_workz> I think I asked this before and maybe didn't get an answer
[13:06] <ash_workz> how can you find the executable for an application that shows in the dash?
[13:06] <ash_workz> ie: for meld, which meld shows '/usr/bin/meld'
[13:07] <ash_workz> but like, for beyond compare... all I know is that it shows up in the dash when I type it
[13:07] <Southern_Gentlem> ropo define too long?
[13:07] <darkeye> Roxer : Hmm weird do you  have .gconf?
[13:07] <ropo> Southern_Gentlem, it's over 2hrs now, it has only burned 171mb out of 3.2gb
[13:09] <roxer> darkeye: i was logged in as root in The terminal..
[13:11] <Trekka12> if I set permission to d---rwx--- can users in the groups read-write and execute then as well, or for this do I also need to have rwx on user? and not only groups?
[13:11] <uddane> ropo: WOW, I'm wondering if the media is bad or your burner is dead
[13:12] <roxer> darkeye: moving. Config did not Work
[13:12] <Southern_Gentlem> ropo yes badmedia or bad drive
[13:15] <ash_workz> beyond compare turned out to be bcompare, but deriving that from google is not very effective
[13:15] <ash_workz> but yeah, if anyone knows how to get bcompare from "beyond compare" I'd appreciate the help
[13:34] <uddane> Does anyone out there run a different desktop other than unity?
[13:36] <joelio> uddane: gnome3
[13:36] <joelio> never really got on with unity, personally
[13:38] <PugaBear> Does pasting a sudo password usually work on terminal?
[13:39] <joelio> yea, just be sure you're in the right terminal (and not an irc session!) lol
[13:39] <PugaBear> hmm, maybe the password is wrong then ;-;
[13:39] <uddane> joelio: its ok....but I think I want to get all my different OSs on the same desktop. Just stood up a unix box with KDE
[13:39] <joelio> PugaBear: or you have whitespace in the copy
[13:39] <joelio> ususally last character
[13:40] <PugaBear> nope no whitespace
[13:40] <joelio> PugaBear: type it in manually then, if it's not working, password issue
[13:40] <z80a> uddane: While Unity appear to be most peoples favorite hate object, the other (Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu Gnome) rank quite low on www.distrowatch.com . I guess most Ubuntu users use Unity after all - maybe with some tweaking. The alternative seems to Mint...
[13:40] <joelio> uddane: you can run many different window managers / desktop environments - just select which one at the graphical login
[13:41] <PugaBear> yeah...it's a massive password..*sighs*
[13:41] <joelio> z80a: gnome in use in many other distros, it's apples/oranges comparison
[13:41] <joelio> also I gont' use ubuntu gnome - I just use ubuntu alternatve installer and then apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[13:42] <uddane> PugaBear: copy the password into 'notepad' then copy from there into terminal...
[13:42] <PugaBear> pft notepad
[13:42] <PugaBear> ill try tho thanks :)
[13:42] <uddane> PugaBear: it will remove characters that workpad or word would leave in ausing the password to fail in terminal
[13:43] <z80a> joelio: I know and agree - but if we talk Ubuntu, Unity appears to quite common. But as you point out; plenty of choices in the Linux world...
[13:43] <uddane> z80a: I'm ok with the unity desktop, but want all the PCs to have the same look
[13:44] <PugaBear> i'm using sublime text :^)
[13:44] <PugaBear> but yeah the password must be wrong
[13:44] <PugaBear> thanks guys
[13:44] <uddane> PugaBear: could be locked out from failed tries too... set mine up like that
[13:45] <uddane> z80a: I think most people use unity because it is already installed...
[13:46] <uddane> z80a: I know thats why I have it
[13:48] <z80a> uddane: I agree - same here, though I have multiple machines with e.g. Mint
[13:48] <thiras> is there an gnome extentions alternative for ubuntu 16
[13:49] <xangua> thiras: gnome extensions alternative?
[13:49] <thiras> it doesn't work under ubuntu 16
[13:49] <thiras> probably because unity/compiz stuff
[13:49] <thiras> i guess
[13:49] <xangua> !doesntwork
[13:49] <xangua> thiras: are you using unity or gnome shell?
[13:50] <thiras> the default one
[13:50] <thiras> guess it's unity
[13:52] <stdd> hi
[14:02] <zartarr> hi guys can someone help me install a printer
[14:02] <zartarr> it shows up when searching for a printer
[14:02] <zartarr> but ends up not installing
[14:03] <zartarr> its a brother printer with instructions online but cant follow it bcuz of the errors that come up in terminal
[14:04] <cscf> zartarr, are you still on Trisquel?  Aren't the drivers proprietary?
[14:04] <zartarr> yup cscf, and drivers are for mfc 9130cw
[14:05] <zartarr> last night th0r told me about cups and in the brother website there is stuff like cups... it just ends up with errors in terminal
[14:06] <uddane> zartarr: have you googled any of the errors?
[14:06] <dennism> my-question:  I am trying to boot Ubuntu 16.04 server from iSCSI with IBFT.  I can see that the local-top/iscsi script uses iscsistart -f to populate the iSCSI info from the IBFT.  But the server will not boot.  Are there new instructions for iSCSI IBFT boot?  Thanks.
[14:07] <zartarr> google ain't much help, now i am using duckduckgo and startpage maybe thats why
[14:08] <uddane> zartarr: I've had really good success with google and error codes...
[14:09] <zartarr> ok ill follow the tips on this site again : http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfc9130cw_us&os=128
[14:09] <zartarr> if i run into the same errors as last night ill post here
[14:12] <ducasse> zartarr: if your brother printer is anything like mine, force the install of the driver packages and install any missing dependencies. other than that, trisquel is not really supported here.
[14:12] <Trekka12> when I type sudo chgrp group1 ./grp1 what does ./ mean?
[14:12] <Trekka12> the dot (.) to be more exact
[14:13] <ducasse> Trekka12: it means 'current directory'
[14:13] <Trekka12> ah ok so I have to use that instead of as for windows simply do the name of the folder?
[14:14] <Trekka12> ducasse,
[14:14] <ducasse> Trekka12: if the file is in the current dir it should not be necessary with chgrp
[14:14] <Trekka12> so I can simply put the name of folder instead of ./?
[14:15] <Trekka12> if so- when do you use ./ then? if not needed in this instance? ducasse
[14:16] <ducasse> Trekka12: you should just need the filename. ./ is needed to for example launch a program if '.' is not in your path.
[14:16] <Trekka12> okay
[14:16] <Trekka12> thx
[14:19] <est> hi, so I want a package to be nominated for import from debian
[14:19] <est> fo yaketty
[14:19] <est> freeze date is not reached yet, so its doable, no?
[14:19] <dbrom> anyone use rsynce here
[14:21] <ducasse> est: try #ubuntu+1
[14:21] <dbrom> im trying to use rsync to move a folder from a remote system to a local server... with no luck  syntex that i am using is   rsync --progress -av -P "ssh -p 45" dbrom@ip:/home/dbrom/Downloads/ move
[14:21] <joelio> dbrom: rsync, yea
[14:21] <StevenGFX> Can I install software onto my ubuntu hdd via a live cd? I have no window manager so im trying to reinstall one and for the life of me i can't get internet working in safemode and I have no window manager.. bleeh
[14:22] <joelio> dbrom: wrong syntax
[14:22] <joelio> you don't need to include ssh (if you did you use -e flag)
[14:22] <dbrom> whats corect
[14:22] <dbrom> correct
[14:22] <est> ducasse: I *knew* i would get that response
[14:23] <ducasse> StevenGFX: just install from command line on your install
[14:23] <ducasse> est: then why ask?
[14:23] <joelio> dbrom: port 45 for ssh, right ok I see.. you need a -e basically.. I'll write it for you
[14:23] <StevenGFX> ducasse, i cant get my internet adapters working
[14:23] <joelio> rsync --progress -avP -e 'ssh -p 45' dbrom@ip:/home/dbrom/Downloads/ move
[14:23] <joelio> dbrom: ^^
[14:23] <joelio> also --parital is good too
[14:24] <dbrom> ok thats my next thought is -e seprate
[14:24] <est> ducasse: because I've realized it after I've asked my question
[14:26] <ducasse> StevenGFX: do you use network manager for networking?
[14:27] <StevenGFX> ducasse, I do
[14:28] <dbrom> thanks Joelio  whats --parital do and whats the benifits
[14:28] <ducasse> StevenGFX: then you can use nmcli to start networking. i don't use nm myself, so i'm not familiar with it, but look at the man page or --help output.
[14:28] <StevenGFX> ducasse, ok thanks. I'll give that shot
[14:29] <StevenGFX> ducasse, do I need to enter safemode with networking?
[14:30] <binia> dbrom, just do rsync -aP -e "ssh -p 45" user@remotehost:/home/user/blahblah /yourdirectory/blahblah
[14:30] <dbrom> it works....
[14:30] <binia> wit will show progress and move all directories/subdirectories
[14:30] <ducasse> StevenGFX: you should be able to boot normally and just drop to a console.
[14:31] <StevenGFX> I'm unable to boot and drop to console. I get an endless boot hold message
[14:31] <StevenGFX> because i have no window manger i think
[14:32] <ducasse> StevenGFX: then there are other problems than a missing wm.
[14:32] <StevenGFX> bleh
[14:33] <zartarr> ok simpler question then
[14:33] <zartarr> how do i get pastebinit installed....
[14:34] <ducasse> zartarr: 'sudo apt install pastebinit'?
[14:35] <StevenGFX> ducasse, i found a solution to this i believe but I just need networking
[14:35] <ducasse> StevenGFX: then try rescue mode with networking
[14:36] <StevenGFX> ducasse, which spits out endless messages "dhcpdiscover on wlp..." and doesnt let me get to a cmd prompt
[14:37] <zartarr> ok cool
[14:37] <zartarr> and how does it work?
[14:37] <zartarr> everyone was asking for pastebinit
[14:37] <ducasse> StevenGFX: then try plain rescue mode and set networking up by hand.
[14:37] <ducasse> zartarr: you really should ask in #trisquel
[14:38] <zartarr> isn't trisquel also ubuntu,
[14:38] <zartarr> p.s. trisquel is like 99% dead... and trisquel came installed on my pc
[14:38] <Fleuv> Hi, what is the default or most common setup of filesystems on ubuntu? I think my filesystem isn't setup correctly: http://pastebin.com/idq4jAFU
[14:38] <ducasse> zartarr: no, it's a derivative.
[14:38] <zartarr> 1918 users vs 66 user power :)
[14:40] <ducasse> zartarr: to be brutally honest, not our problem :) we support official ubuntu flavors only.
[14:40] <zartarr> is official ubuntu anything that runs with untu ?
[14:40] <zartarr> ends with *
[14:40] <zartarr> i thought trisquel was ubuntu as well thats why i actually join here as well
[14:40] <ducasse> !flavors
[14:42] <dbrom> Which flavor of Ubuntu do you use * asking everyone *
[14:42] <mcphail> dbrom: this isn't a channel for polls, I'm afraid
[14:42] <zartarr> hmm ok
[14:43] <dbrom> no a poll just wanted to know because I am using kubuntu and wanting to go to a new flavor
[14:43] <dbrom> not a poll
[14:43] <craptalk> how can i create env variable to put it on /usr/bin with my chosen names?
[14:44] <craptalk> i create an alias but it is only on terminal session and i need to recreate it once i closed the terminal
[14:44] <joelio> dbrom: --partial will resume file transfer (so a large file is really helped as it'll chunk the file and checksum up until the data is no longer consistent then it'll resume from that chunk)
[14:45] <dbrom> add it to your bashrc file
[14:45] <craptalk> edit it there and save it?
[14:45] <dbrom> yes
[14:48] <dbrom> i tried to use --partial but it failed
[14:48] <craptalk> dbrom, such a great advice man
[14:48] <craptalk> dbrom, thank you
[14:50] <pavlos> craptalk, you can add it to your .bash_aliases
[14:50] <joelio> dbrom: strange, it's definitely an option - maybe the remote end didn't support it
[14:50] <joelio> $ rsync --help | grep partial
[14:50] <joelio>      --partial               keep partially transferred files
[14:50] <craptalk> pavlos, whats the difference with bashrc? i did it well in bashrc?
[14:51] <dbrom> its a hidden file so its .bachrc
[14:51] <pavlos> craptalk, no diff, just a matter of keeping things tidy.
[14:53] <pavlos> craptalk, if you look at .bashrc, there is a section, alias definitions, which sources (includes) the .bash_aliases
[14:54] <craptalk> pavlos, where is bash_aliases?
[14:54] <craptalk> couldnt find it in /home
[14:54] <cscf> craptalk, it's hidden, if it exists.  .bash_aliases
[14:54] <cscf> Not sure if all installs have it by default.
[14:55] <craptalk> i did use ls -a to display hidden things
[14:55] <craptalk> but no found
[14:55] <dbrom> you find . -type f -iname "bash*" -print it will help you
[14:55] <cscf> craptalk, well, then it's not there.  You can create it.  But look in .bash_aliases to see if it's being sourced, otherwise it wont do anything
[14:56] <craptalk> where is it supposed to be?
[14:56] <pavlos> craptalk, it is a dot file, .bash_aliases in your home dir
[14:56] <ducasse> craptalk: there is no ~/.bash_aliases by default iirc, just create it.
[14:56] <dbrom> its suppose to be in ~/
[14:57] <bash_> I need to efective reject all request coming from network I guess ufw reject from 207.244.0.0/16 would do the trick right?
[14:57] <dbrom> if -P and -- partial do the same thing why do you need to enter it in twice
[14:57] <craptalk> once i created it should i put it in /usr/bin to add it to default command terminal? or it will be functioning directly?
[14:57] <ikonia> craptalk: no
[14:58] <ikonia> craptalk: nohting goes in /usr/bin
[14:58] <ikonia> it's just your shell env
[14:58] <ikonia> update .bash_profile or .bashrc with your aliases / path updates
[14:58] <pavlos> craptalk, the command la lists files in your home plus dot files (there is an alias in .bashrc)
[14:58] <posi> What's the best file system for fast reads with a lot of small files. I.e enough small files where I had to tweak inodes x10 on ext4
[14:58] <posi> I want really fast metadata access
[14:59] <craptalk> pavlos, i know, i created aliases on bashrc, just want to know how to create it myself and make it work
[14:59] <ikonia> posi: so tuning the file system will help, but by default xfs works well with smaller files in large numbers
[14:59] <ikonia> craptalk: create what yourself ?
[14:59] <craptalk> .bash_aliases
[14:59] <posi> Tuning guides?
[14:59] <craptalk> and put list of aliases
[14:59] <craptalk> there
[15:00] <ikonia> craptalk: just put it in your .bashrc or .bash_profile
[15:00] <craptalk> alright
[15:00] <craptalk> i did it
[15:01] <craptalk> anyway, you said nothing goes to /usr/bin, but when i want to make shell program to do stuff and want to make it working with terminal command, last time i did was copy it to /usr/bin and create alias in bashrc
[15:01] <craptalk> am i right thinking that way?
[15:02] <ikonia> craptalk: I don't see why you'd put it in there
[15:02] <ikonia> if its just a shell script, just leave it in your home directory
[15:02] <ikonia> and I don't know why you need an alias for it
[15:02] <ikonia> but thats up to you
[15:02] <craptalk> ikonia, every terminal command is executed in /usr/bin right?
[15:02] <ikonia> no
[15:03] <craptalk> where?
[15:03] <djdexter> exit
[15:03] <ikonia> and a "command" or binary is different than a shell script
[15:03] <ikonia> some are shell functions for example
[15:03] <darkdrgn2k> hi all, where does th autoconfig.js file go in a linux install (speific ubuntu)
[15:03] <ikonia> darkdrgn2k: in what respect ?
[15:04] <darkdrgn2k> ikonia: as in "Deploying Firefox in an enterprise environment"
[15:04] <darkdrgn2k> to configure settings in firefox for all users.. IE: NTLM passthrough auth
[15:04] <craptalk> ikonia, but what if i want to create my own command?
[15:04] <craptalk> and make it in work like other commands?
[15:04] <ikonia> craptalk: then decide how you want to make it
[15:04] <ikonia> craptalk: thats just in your path
[15:04] <ikonia> darkdrgn2k: depends what/how you're going to dell firefox to run it
[15:05] <ikonia> darkdrgn2k: as I recall it's just a command argument to set the path to run it
[15:05] <craptalk> i know what you mean, but i need to put it in default $PATH right?
[15:05] <darkdrgn2k> ikonia: im looking at setting NTLM passthrough settings
[15:05] <craptalk> so i wont go to its directory?
[15:05] <craptalk> to just launch it?
[15:05] <john-key> hi
[15:05] <Pici> craptalk: if its just for your user, you can put it in ~/.local/bin/ or ~/bin/ and add that to your users $PATH
[15:06] <craptalk> Pici, got it
[15:07] <darkdrgn2k> specificlaly "network.negotiate-auth.delegation-uris"
[15:08] <darkdrgn2k> and i dont see a command line paramater for that..
[15:09] <joelio> darkdrgn2k: that's a chrome/ff option afair
[15:09] <joelio> about::config
[15:10] <darkdrgn2k> joelio: yeh but how do i set it to all users
[15:10] <joelio> not a question for ubuntu, I'm afraid, that's profile management for $BROWSER
[15:11] <craptalk> when i edit this EDITOR=nano export EDITOR on my env table, did it just create nano as my default editor?
[15:13] <joelio> craptalk: ubuntu's way is via update-alternatives
[15:13] <joelio> but yea, EDITOR is an env var that is used in linux
[15:13] <ducasse> craptalk: you set the default editor for programs that respects $EDITOR
[15:13] <craptalk> joelio, so what do you mean?
[15:14] <joelio> craptalk: sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[15:14] <joelio> is how you would change your default editor for the system
[15:14] <joelio> that's the ubuntu way of doing it
[15:16] <craptalk> clear
[15:16] <brunch875> is it possible to make ttys display notifications sent by notify-send?
[15:17] <zartarr> is imap actually less secure?
[15:18] <zartarr> adding an email account from gmail, and its asking me to allow 'less secure imap'
[15:18] <zartarr> curious
[15:18] <ccruz> Holas
[15:18] <ducasse> zartarr: that's just google wanting you to use their app, ignore it.
[15:18] <zartarr> excellent
[15:19] <zartarr> q for you ducasse, do you physically type my name
[15:19] <zartarr> or is there some hotkey which does a reply
[15:19] <Pici> !tab
[15:19] <ducasse> zartarr: i press 'z' and hit tab
[15:19] <cscf> zartarr, 'zar<tab>'
[15:20] <cscf> ducasse, only z?  But there's tons of z's on here.
[15:20] <zartarr> man i love tab
[15:20] <ducasse> cscf: weechat expands to last who spoke
[15:20] <zartarr> you know what i also discovered, accidently, if you use the arrow keys in terminal you can use the previous code line
[15:20] <Pici> Many IRC clients are smart enough to pick the person who spoke last, and then subsequent tabs pick others.
[15:20] <cscf> ducasse, ah, that is smart.
[15:21] <ducasse> cscf: yay weechat! :)
[15:21] <cscf> zartarr, yup, that is handy.  Also Ctrl-R can search.
[15:23] <snowkidind> anyone use pianobar?
[15:23] <snowkidind> (pandora streamer for *nux)
[15:24] <snowkidind> the problem is that pandora will not stream to (some third world country) - what I want to do is make a repeater that I can have pandora stream to my server and then that forwards that to (country)
[15:25] <iman55> hi
[15:26] <Tanner_> I am getting lots of flickering in chrome while watching a youtube video on 16.04, integrated graphics on a Thinkpad E560. I've spent some time googling and tried what I've found, but no luck. Any ideas?
[15:27] <Tanner_> The flickering occasionally happens elsewhere as well
[15:29] <ducasse> Tanner_: what do you mean by 'flickering' - tearing?
[15:30] <Mindfart> Tanner_: if flickering means stutters, you could try to disable hardware accelerated video decode in chrome://flags (helps in some edge cases)
[15:31] <BogDrakonov> Hey all. Anyone know what /etc/init.d/kcare does? I don't recall seeing this on 14.04 systems in the past
[15:31] <BogDrakonov> Also don't recall installing it
[15:31] <joelio> Mindfart: Tanner: Default youtube *isn't* hardware accelerated
[15:31] <joelio> it uses vp8
[15:31] <Mindfart> I have had issues with youtube about half a year ago
[15:31] <joelio> you need to install h264ify to get hardware acceleration as gpu's have h264 support
[15:31] <k1l_> BogDrakonov: using kde?
[15:32] <Mindfart> so if it has changed since then ok, if not.. then u probably are not right
[15:32] <joelio> google own vpN codec
[15:32] <BogDrakonov> k1l_: it's a server in liquidweb so I highly doubt they isntalled kde
[15:32] <BogDrakonov> I only use ssh on it
[15:32] <joelio> s/vp8/vp9
[15:32] <k1l_> BogDrakonov: seems its for "kernelcare" for live patching
[15:33] <BogDrakonov> k1l_: ah thanks
[15:33] <BogDrakonov> I was trying to find whatever management tool they are using to revert settings on me and kill it
[15:33] <k1l_> BogDrakonov: https://www.cloudlinux.com/all-products/product-overview/kernelcare
[15:33] <BogDrakonov> iptables time I guess
[15:33] <BogDrakonov> neat thanks
[15:35] <darkdrgn2k> ok i figured out firefox :)
[15:35] <darkdrgn2k> ok another question, any suggestions on email client for an EXCHANGE server, and is there a way to "auto configure" it
[15:36] <brunch875> wow, it also works in pidgin. Nice hint
[15:36] <Kurvivor> hello!
[15:37] <Kurvivor> how can i fond out what package is a certain program from?
[15:38] <nacc> Kurvivor: apt-file is one way
[15:38] <ducasse> Kurvivor: dpkg -S or apt-file
[15:38] <nacc> Kurvivor: if you know the path to the program
[15:38] <Kurvivor> i see
[15:38] <nacc> or the name of hte program itself
[15:39] <Kurvivor> by the way, what is the name of that one program that builds .deb files from makefile projects?
[15:39] <ducasse> Kurvivor: checkinstall?
[15:39] <brunch875> checkinstall if I remember
[15:39] <zartarr> hmm setting up my email returns ;  Peer reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version.".
[15:39] <Kurvivor> thanks!
[15:39] <Kurvivor> i have built a program withj checkinstall way back in the day, so to say, and now there is a new version of it
[15:40] <Kurvivor> (built and installed)
[15:41] <joelio> Kurvivor: fpm - effing package manager
[15:42] <joelio> it can be used for gems/pip etc etc etc too
[15:42] <joelio> not very 'debian' way but it gets the job done for sure
[15:42] <joelio> https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm/wiki
[15:46] <gregf_> hello
[15:46] <gregf_> im trying to access freenode but all ports except 80/443 have been closed
[15:46] <gregf_> is there a way to get around this? port forwarding or somesuch?
[15:47] <k1l_> you mean freenode banned your ip?
[15:48] <k1l_> gregf_: actually, you could try with your real ip and not a proxy
[15:48] <gregf_> k1l_: nope :/. my company has closed all ports
[15:48] <tgm4883> gregf_: there are a few web IRC clients
[15:48] <BogDrakonov> gregf_: FWIW I use irccloud.com as a bouncer to get around company port blocking
[15:49] <BogDrakonov> It also syncs where you left off among apps and the web gui
[15:49] <gregf_> yes, but ive been using irssi :|
[15:49] <BogDrakonov> oh
[15:49] <gregf_> BogDrakonov: oh i see
[15:49] <tgm4883> gregf_: well then setup an SSH tunnel to an SSH server you control?
[15:50] <gregf_> tgm4883: thats what i wanted to know :)
[15:50] <meshuggah> hello people,  iuse windows 7 and i would like to know how to configure it so it correct automatically time&date at every boot?
[15:50] <k1l_> meshuggah: ask ##windows .this is ubuntu support only
[15:50] <Pici> meshuggah: That sounds like a question for ##windows...
[15:50] <tgm4883> gregf_: I used to do that at a previous company that blocked IRC traffic. SSH tunnel to my house and then did IRC over that
[15:51] <meshuggah> i do know, but ##windows doesnt know about it, i am 100% sure people here are way more knowledgeable
[15:51] <tgm4883> meshuggah: is this a dual boot machine?
[15:51] <tgm4883> ...
[15:52] <gregf_> tgm4883: let me try setting up an ssh server and tunelling through
[15:52] <tgm4883> apparently there is a zero tolerance rule in #ubuntu now
[15:52] <Pici> tgm4883: it was a quiet, not a ban.
[15:53] <joelio> gregf_: you can use -D {port} to create a SOCKS5 proxy in ssh too (with traffic coming out of the ssh bastion), it's useful for doing that kind of thing
[15:53] <tgm4883> Pici: effectively the same thing though? He can't answer what was asked of him
[15:53] <joelio> gregf_: or use irssi on a vm and just ssh/screen
[15:53] <Pici> tgm4883: but now k1l_ can speak to him in private without the channel being disrupted.
[15:53] <k1l_> tgm4883: its a know user who has violated the guidelines very often before on purpose. so there is a very short rope.
[15:53] <joelio> gregf_: (what I do)
[15:53] <Pici> or that
[15:53] <tgm4883> k1l_: Pici ah, sounds good then
[15:53]  * joelio steps back then
[15:54] <Hiko> join /internet
[15:54] <tgm4883> gregf_: actually, now that I recall I did exactly what joelio is describing, a socks5 proxy
[15:56] <joelio> tgm4883: it's pretty handy :)
[15:57] <BogDrakonov> For VPN/SSH/proxying to external sources to escape firewalls and filters I use this https://github.com/jlund/streisand
[15:57]  * BogDrakonov bows out of the convo now to get back to work
[15:57] <Hiko> ​/join ​#​hackers
[15:58] <joelio> mariuszkarpiarz: *waves*
[15:59] <DArqueBishop> I suppose I should point out that if you're in a corporate environment and you don't have explicit permission to get around the firewall, your bosses will probably take a very dim view of what you're doing.
[16:10] <iron_host> d
[16:13] <boxrick1> Would anyone know how can I can make my build not look for an upstream source, ie a native type of build? : dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream tarball found at ../cobbler_2.6.11.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz}
[16:13] <boxrick1> dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source -b cloud-pbuilder-cobbler-2.6.11-xenial gave error exit status 255
[16:14] <ikonia> boxrick1: how do you expect to build without the tarball ?
[16:14] <nacc> boxrick1: native or not, you'd need the upstream tarball
[16:15] <boxrick1> So I have a bunch of source files, extracted and running the command within that sub directory.
[16:15] <boxrick1> Before I manually created that tarball just to satisfy this
[16:15] <boxrick1> What you are saying is I should store it as a tarball?
[16:15] <Slacko64> hey hey
[16:16] <Slacko64> Is there a way to install and run a full Ubuntu OS from a USB flash drive?  I need an OS to run on a laptop without a working hard drive and I'm tired of messing with puppy linux
[16:16] <burritomafia> Hello?
[16:16] <nacc> boxrick1: yes, debian packaging expects tarballs
[16:16] <k1l_> Slacko64: you can either use a persistent live usb or install onto a usb if its big enough
[16:16] <boxrick1> I think my problem here lies with the fact my source contains the debian directory. When infact they should be separate entities?
[16:17] <nacc> boxrick1: i believe i have a ppa for cobbler, fyi
[16:17] <nacc> boxrick1: if you want to ping me on #cobbler
[16:17] <Slacko64> how do I do that?
[16:18] <ducasse> Slacko64: sure, just install to a usb stick like you would install to a hard drive
[16:18] <Slacko64> and it saves and all that too?
[16:18] <k1l_> Slacko64: make another usb as live-usb and choose the big usb in the installer as install target
[16:18] <Slacko64> ohh ok
[16:18] <Slacko64> I don't have to save session like in Puppy linux?
[16:19] <burritomafia> Hello?
[16:19] <k1l_> no, this way its a full install. but it takes around 10GB size. so you need a usb pendrive that is big enough
[16:19] <burritomafia> Am i in an irc channel?
[16:20] <dritslem> yes..
[16:20] <Slacko64> My USB is 8gb.  What about Lubuntu?  would that work better?
[16:20] <burritomafia> Oh... Hi!
[16:20] <burritomafia> This is my first time doing this sweet
[16:20] <dritslem> haha
[16:20] <dritslem> welcome
[16:20] <burritomafia> lol you all have a good day :D
[16:20] <k1l_> Slacko64: the other way would be a live system, where changes are saved. this takes less space, but the whole system loads to the ram. so that has some limitations.
[16:20] <k1l_> Slacko64: yes, i would suggest using Lubuntu. and not making a swap
[16:21] <Slacko64> are there any guides online for what I'm looking to do with Lubuntu?  I don't even know what to google
[16:22] <k1l_> Slacko64: well, make a regular live-lubuntu onto a second usb pendrive. then start that, choose manual partitioning. make only on ext4 for /, no swap or other parititons. install. reboot, done.
[16:23] <SchrodingersScat> Slacko64: not sure.  If you have two usb drives then you can make one the LiveUSB drive and then install to another usb drive, at least last I checked.  VMs are also good for this if you can passthru your USB to the VM and then you don't have to boot into a live environment
[16:25] <burritomafia> Hi im back
[16:25] <burritomafia> This is great im talking through a terminal
[16:25] <burritomafia> This is the discord killer ngl
[16:26] <burritomafia> Anyone know if r/pcmasterrace has a irc channel?
[16:26] <k1l_> !alis | burritomafia
[16:26] <Pici> burritomafia: most of reddit's channels are on snoonet, not freenode.
[16:26] <burritomafia> Ahh I see
[16:26] <k1l_> burritomafia: this channel is for technical ubuntu support only. for network questions you might want to ask in the #freenode channel :)
[16:26] <burritomafia> Im an irc noob so run it through me what is freenode?
[16:27] <nicomachus> burritomafia: /join #freenode
[16:27] <Pici> !freenode | burritomafia
[16:27] <burritomafia> ok ill try that thanks guys!
[16:27] <Pici> hrm, I guess we need to update the freenode urls...
[16:29] <iman550> hi
[16:33] <ducasse> Pici: completely ot; the topic in #ubuntu-server needs an update (the last sentence)
[16:33] <Pici> ducasse: I'll take a look, thanks.
[16:34] <ashik> hi , i am facing trouble installing ubuntu 16.04 alongside win10
[16:35] <ashik>  have turned off secure boot OFF , but when i try to boot from usb , and click on INSTALL linux option , it shows the error "Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(1,0)"
[16:36] <ashik> any help ? i want to use ubuntu
[16:40] <pkhaxorz> hey. I've been having really really stupid issues with nautilus
[16:41] <pkhaxorz> for instance, when I open a file, Nautilus closes, unless its something like a text file that gets opened in another tab of sublime
[16:41] <pkhaxorz> I dislike this behavior and it's stupid
[16:43] <pkhaxorz> is there any way to fix this?
[16:48] <gabriel_> HOla
[16:48] <gabriel_> Necesito ayuda
[16:49] <gabriel_> NO puedo borrar una carpeta que quiero borrar, y tiene un candadito arriba
[16:49] <Pici> !es | gabriel_
[16:50] <darkdrgn2k> when entering an HTTP server, what path do i put in
[16:50] <darkdrgn2k> (assuming the iso is copied to /UBUNTU/ISO/
[16:52] <Southern_Gentlem> /var/www/html/blah
[17:01] <ankush_> start
[17:29] <Sik> Does anybody else have trouble running LyX on Ubuntu 16.04.1? It just gets stuck without ever opening the window (checked in the terminal, it just hangs). It worked fine on 14.04.
[17:29] <Sik> Tried uninstalling and reinstalling just in case some dependency broke, but nope still hangs up.
[17:33] <OerHeks> Sik, what version do you try to install? the standard in the repos is 2.1.43, website gives a ppa for 2.2.1 ... https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu
[17:35] <Sik> Repo
[17:38] <rightonyourtail> Sik: can you run "lyx -version"?
[17:47] <Kurogane> Hi, i've a problem, i installed nginx and when i run systemctl status nginx give me this error 'Failed to get properties: No such interface '' '
[17:48] <Pici> Kurogane: how did you install nginx and what Ubuntu release are you on?
[17:49] <posi> What's some good guides for high performance Fs with billions of files
[17:49] <Kurogane> Pici, apt-get install nginx and 16.04.1
[17:52] <guvn0r> systemctl status used on fedora/rhel dont think its native to ubuntu
[17:52] <senaps> key_load_public: No such file or directory while connecting to ssh
[17:52] <Pici> guvn0r: we use systemd on 16.04 now
[17:52] <Pici> Kurogane: Is that error message coming from the systemctl command, or is nginx reporting that as its status?
[17:52] <guvn0r> we do? lemme look thanks
[17:52] <senaps> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/311665/key-load-public-no-such-file-or-directory-while-connecting-to-ssh    the question and thing's i have done until now.
[17:54] <Kurogane> Pici, nginx, and systemctl give me Failed to list units: No such method 'ListUnitsFiltered'
[17:55] <Pici> Kurogane: is this a fresh install or an upgrade?
[17:55] <Kurogane> upgrade from 14.04
[17:55] <alpha5> when i get error like "no version information available"?
[17:56] <bekks> alpha5: When doing what?
[17:56] <alpha5> running application (created by me)?
[17:57] <bekks> alpha5: Can you be more precise please?
[17:57] <senaps> anybody know about my ssh problem ppl?
[17:57] <alpha5> can i get this error when i build and create binary on ubuntu 16.04 and try to run on ubuntu 14.04?
[17:58] <bekks> alpha5: Sure you can. Depends on what you have done to your system.
[17:59] <alpha5> bekks: https://ibin.co/2vNda1FLKdlw.png this is the error i got.
[18:00] <bekks> alpha5: you dont have the dependencies installed, needed by your application
[18:01] <alpha5> bekks: I checked dependencies by running ldd command and send it with application as shared libarary.
[18:01] <Gallowglass> I'm working to get a printer set up, but it's looking like CUPS isn't sending print messages and just marking jobs complete. Digging reveals "Failed to create /var/spool/cups/tmp/.hplip"
[18:01] <bekks> alpha5: the error messages clearly state the opppsite.
[18:02] <Pici> Kurogane: can you pastebin the results of: apt-cache policy systemd-sysv
[18:03] <Kurogane> Pici, http://paste.ee/p/LPLYJ
[18:05] <Pici> Kurogane: Does issuing a sudo systemctl daemon-reload  help?
[18:06] <alpha5> bekks: Sorry I used LD_LIBRARY_PATH= $PWD/Qt_Libraries instead of LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$PWD/Qt_Libraries. But now i get error segmentation fault(core dumped)
[18:06] <Kurogane> Pici, nop
[18:06] <bekks> alpha5: So your shipped libraries dont match the target system.
[18:07] <alpha5> bekks: sorry i dont getting you.
[18:07] <bekks> alpha5: the libraries you sent with your application cant be used on the target system.
[18:08] <alpha5> bekks: now what can i do . It run well on ubuntu 16.04 (development pc)
[18:08] <Pici> Kurogane: I'm not really sure then,you may want to ask more here and wait for someone else to reply or ask in #systemd
[18:09] <bekks> alpha5: Do not ship libraries, but creat an install package (.deb) which pulls in the required libraries, on the target system.
[18:09] <Kurogane> Pici, anyways no big deal, can you give how sudoers work? i really not understand i do this, i just want to run the command and not ask password. http://paste.ee/p/shKsX
[18:09] <devan> okay for some reason, after setting up an encrypted swap, ubuntu won't shutdown without a hang showing "failed to stop /dev/dm-0" every time I try to encrypt the swap. And then after every boot it, it wants to hang trying to fchck. is this a bug or am I doing swap wrong?
[18:10] <alpha5> bekks: can you elaborate more how?
[18:10] <devan> i've been advised not to add the /dev/mapper/cryptswap in fstab because systemd is supposed to auto mount it, but it doesn't..
[18:10] <darkdrgn2k> how cna i specify a custom path to the installation software isntead of using a mirror in a cfg file?
[18:11] <bekks> alpha5: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[18:11] <devan> i've checked dmsetup info on dm-0 and it returns as the encrypted swap
[18:11] <devan> and it works once I swappon
[18:12] <devan> but does that mean I have to manually swapoff before shutting down?
[18:14] <devan> I don't know why lvm is apart of my situation, as I'm not raiding nor using more than one hdd/partition.. Do I even need lvm to use luks?
[18:14] <Bashing-om> devan: As a thought, have you verified that the UUIDs in /etc/fstab file aggree with ' sudo blkid ' ?
[18:15] <devan> yes but after adding it in and taking it out of fstab, its still the same thing on every shutdown
[18:15] <devan> so its like, fstab whether its in or not doesn't change
[18:15] <cscf> devan, normally you put lvm inside the luks so that you can put swap, etc inside it as well.
[18:16] <devan> yes but only.. I didn't because I have no use for lvm. is it safe to remove lvm out of 16.04?
[18:16] <devan> or did it get integrated into luks
[18:18] <devan> i've tried putting the swap in as /dev/sda6, i've tried UUID=[uuid]
[18:18] <devan> i've tried both encrypted swap and non
[18:19] <devan> still getting this dm-0 failed to stop during shutdown
[18:19] <mikeymop> does anyone know how appimage compares to snaps?
[18:19] <mikeymop> besides phone support on snaps? I'm curious why Krita opted for appimage instead of flatpaq or snap
[18:20] <pkkm> hi, what's the recommended amount of video memory when running Ubuntu 16.04 in a virtual machine? VirtualBox's default is 12 MB, but it seems a bit low.
[18:20] <sdexter> I have a 14.04 system where I wish to encrypt a volume that will hold data, besides encfs what are the best options.
[18:21] <srdjan_> I have no sound coming to the Right channel on the back connector of the motherboard on Line Out. aplay -l shows: card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC1150 Analog [ALC1150 Analog], speaker-test -c , pacmd list-sinks shows:  volume: front-left: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB,   front-right: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB   Any ideas?
[18:21] <bekks> pkkm: thats enough.
[18:22] <pkkm> bekks: is it going to smoothly run Unity?
[18:22] <devan> why am I getting a PARTUUID on blkid /dev/sda6?
[18:22] <srdjan_> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS  btw
[18:22] <bekks> pkkm: No, but thats due to the limited 3d capabilities of a vm, not because of the video ram.
[18:23] <pkkm> bekks: ok, I won't increase the memory then, thanks
[18:29] <dafhew> why doesn't my process exit?
[18:30] <AndChat204276> Hi
[18:30] <AndChat204276> Test
[18:31] <AndChat204276> Can anyone read this?
[18:31] <dr4c4n_> hi, I'm having issues with an ubuntu install, I've upgraded to the latest kernel to try to get rid of a fan always running issue, but I lost my desktop
[18:31] <Pici> yes
[18:31] <Pici> AndChat204276: we see you
[18:31] <dr4c4n_> what I mean is that I can still login, and I can get to a terminal session with ctrl-alt-f1, but I can't get my desktop
[18:31] <filippa> ciao
[18:31] <filippa> !list
[18:32] <devan> nobody knows why an encrypted swap bugs out on 16.04?
[18:32] <zeus_> guys
[18:33] <dr4c4n_> nevermind, after a second reboot, I'm able to get back into my desktop
[18:33] <zeus_> why in backbox the letters are bugged???
[18:33] <mikelp1973> yes
[18:33] <dr4c4n_> devan: I had problems setting up encrypted partitions from the 16.04.1 installers
[18:33] <dr4c4n_> on both xubuntu and ubuntu-gnome
[18:33] <Disaster_Area> hey so I want to run minecraft, what should I use to run java? Oracle or OpenJDK or something else? How would I download any of those?
[18:33] <Pici> !backbox | zeus_
[18:33] <bekks> !java | Disaster_Area
[18:34] <AndChat204276> Yay, thanks!
[18:34] <Disaster_Area> thanks
[18:36] <devan> im not adding the swap partition as a UUID in crypttab or fstab, something tells me the uuid get changed on boot up
[18:37] <Gallowglass> I'm working to get a printer set up, but it's looking like CUPS isn't sending print messages and just marking jobs complete. Digging reveals "Failed to create /var/spool/cups/tmp/.hplip"
[18:39] <mikeymop> devan: sudo blkid?
[18:39] <mikeymop> too late.
[18:40] <dr4c4n_> so anyone with an asus zenbook ux501vw that has the runaway fan issue... solve it by upgrading the kernel to (I've used the latest one)
[18:41] <mikeymop> dr4c4n_: 4.8 fixed it for you?
[18:41] <dr4c4n_> mikeymop: yes
[18:41] <dr4c4n_> all I have done is done the regular xubuntu install
[18:41] <dr4c4n_> then did apt-get update
[18:41] <dr4c4n_> apt-get upgrade
[18:41] <dr4c4n_> apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:41] <dr4c4n_> then ran through dpkg -i kernelfiles (the three of them)
[18:42] <dr4c4n_> for 4.8
[18:42] <dr4c4n_> it's been over a week and a half of buggering around with new laptop
[18:42] <dr4c4n_> and two reboots after kernel install and I've got desktop back, and can continue configuring
[18:43] <dr4c4n_> during this journey I also installed cpufrequtils
[18:43] <dr4c4n_> and the skylake dmc and gpu
[18:43] <dr4c4n_> from intel
[18:44] <dr4c4n_> those alone though didn't solve the issue, it was finally the latest kernel that stopped the crazy fan
[18:44] <dr4c4n_> does anyone know what kernel version will be coming out with ubuntu 16.10?
[18:44] <dr4c4n_> slashdot says 4.8
[18:45] <Bashing-om> dr4c4n_: Questions in respect to 16.10 better asked in #ubuntu+1 channel .
[18:47] <dr4c4n_> Bashing-om: Thanks, got my answer from slashdot.
[18:49] <ramrebol_> Hi. I downloaded a 64 bits ubuntu version: *amd64.iso  It is possible to install in a x86 laptop?  Or I need to download a 32 version of the iso?
[18:50] <nacc> ramrebol_: amd64 is just the name debian/ubuntu use for 64-bit intel-compatible laptops, amd or intel
[18:51] <dr4c4n_> ramrebol_: you should download the x86 version if your computer isn't 64 bit
[18:52] <ramrebol_> nacc: dr4c4n_ :   so, I will download the other version :/
[18:52] <ramrebol_> thanks!
[18:52] <dr4c4n_> no problem! Good luck with the installation
[19:05] <sharkman> if i opened up a new file with the command "vim" and typed some stuff up, but didnt save, and my computer shut down, how can i recover it?
[19:06] <meshuggah> hello
[19:07] <mikeymop> sharkman: i dont think yo ucan
[19:07] <ioria> sharkman, try vim -r
[19:08] <mikeymop> if you go to the locatino where you touched the file you could have the the file still there
[19:08] <mikeymop> ioria: til
[19:09] <Jordan_U> sharkman: "ls -a" in the same directory and you will hopefully see a file named '.yourfile.swp'.
[19:09] <sharkman> ty
[19:10] <ioria> sharkman, man vim   can be handy
[19:10] <Guest82718> hi
[19:10] <pantato> will my vps explode if i try installing bitchx for some nostalgia?
[19:10] <pantato> ubuntu 14.04
[19:10] <gustav___> How do I get bell working?
[19:11] <gustav___> It's supposed to be a CLI program that makes a sound in the speakers when I run it.
[19:12] <ubuntivity> Hello. I had 12.04 x86 installed, later I installed the x64 version of 12.04 for dual boot. the problem is I still have the bootloader of the old 12.04 (x86) and can't replace it with a new grub from the x64 system! how do I fix that?
[19:13] <cscf> ubuntivity, grub-install
[19:13] <ubuntivity> I tried using grub-install /dev/sda with no effect
[19:13] <ubuntivity> cscf: it reported no errors
[19:13] <ubuntivity> cscf: but when I rebooted, the same old grub is there
[19:13] <cscf> ubuntivity, but it doesn't boot?
[19:13] <ubuntivity> cscf: it boots normally
[19:13] <ubuntivity> but it is the one from the old system
[19:14] <cscf> ubuntivity, are you dual-booting Ubuntu 12.04 x86 & 64, or what?
[19:14] <ubuntivity> cscf: When I perform changes and do update-grub, no changes actually take place
[19:14] <ubuntivity> cscf: exactly
[19:14] <Pici> pantato: I'd avoid using unpatched unmaintained software, especially when it access the internet.  If you want a cli IRC experience, I suggest using irssi or weechat.
[19:14] <cscf> ubuntivity, do you only have one drive (sda) ?
[19:14] <ubuntivity> cscf: yes, only sda
[19:15] <cscf> ubuntivity, do you have any separate /boot partitions on either?
[19:15] <ubuntivity> cscf: no
[19:15] <vacho> I keep on setting my web servers file permissions to ubuntu:www-data, but when apache is creating the files the are owned by www-data www-data, which throws off my app.. can someone please help? How can I force apache to create files as ubuntu:www-data ?
[19:15] <ubuntivity> cscf: x86 is entirely on single partition
[19:15] <gustav___> There was some new release of irssi. Freenode adviced to get it. It's not in 12.04 yet. It's fine?
[19:15] <ubuntivity> cscf: x64 has separate /home directory
[19:16] <ubuntivity> cscf: is there a way to determine where is the current grub installed?
[19:16] <PotatoBoi> hey
[19:16] <ubuntivity> cscf: like from inside grub itself?
[19:16] <ioria> gustav___, you can install sox and play any sound in /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/
[19:16] <mikeymop> a lot of people use irssi instead of weechat
[19:16] <mikeymop> is theer a reason?
[19:17] <cscf> ubuntivity, Well, generally the first entry will be the OS it was installed from, and os-prober will list other OS's later.
[19:17]  * ubuntivity uses weechat happily.
[19:17] <gustav___> ioria: I realized the host from which I want to run bell is not local.
[19:17] <cscf> mikeymop, they are used to it?  irssi has been around longer afaik
[19:17] <ubuntivity> cscf: the first entry is the x86 older system
[19:17] <gustav___> ioria: Can sox play non-locally?
[19:17] <ioria> gustav___,  never tried
[19:17] <akik> mikeymop: opinions are opinions. use what works best for you
[19:17] <ioria> gustav___,  i guess so
[19:17] <cscf> ubuntivity, that's strange, I'm not sure why it wouldn't just overwrite it when you install
[19:17] <PotatoBoi> could someone help me with drivers
[19:18] <ubuntivity> cscf: does it have to do with boot flag?
[19:18] <Bashing-om> ubuntivity: There can be only one boot authority . What I do is disable /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober in the secondary OS. update that grub then ( excludes the primary ). AND in my primary update grub . such that a recipricating process is illiminated .
[19:18] <cscf> ubuntivity, boot flags aren't needed with grub
[19:19] <ubuntivity> Bashing-om: why doesn't updating grub from the newer OS doesn't replace that?
[19:19] <mikeymop> cscf: that makes sense, if it's been around longer
[19:19] <mikeymop> cscf: just seeing if theres an enticing reason to switch over
[19:19] <ubuntivity> cscf: after installing my x64 system, I had messed up a little with my partitions
[19:19] <vacho> how do I force apache created files to have same permissions as it's folder?
[19:19] <Bashing-om> ubuntivity: Depends on what the updating system reads form the other installed OS .
[19:19] <ubuntivity> cscf: and couldn't boot or even see grub unless I've set the boot flag to the x64 partition
[19:20] <cscf> vacho, you might want to try asking on an apache channel
[19:20] <PotatoBoi> how do install the nvidia drivers and configure them ?
[19:20] <ubuntivity> Bashing-om: so, you suggest disabling os-prober of the old system?
[19:20] <cscf> PotatoBoi, use the GUI driver manager
[19:20] <PotatoBoi> cscf what about the livecd ?
[19:21] <cscf> PotatoBoi, Dash > "Additional Drivers"
[19:21] <cscf> PotatoBoi, what about it?
[19:21] <Bashing-om> PotatoBoi: That depends on the card and what driver you want to install as a match .
[19:21] <PotatoBoi> i can only run the livecd with nomodeset
[19:21] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: Please run boot info script: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt it produces. Also, why are you installing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS rather than Ubuntu 14.04 LTS? If it's because your hardware is old, then it's probably much better to use Xubuntu 14.04 than Ubuntu 12.04.
[19:21] <valeria> hola
[19:21] <PotatoBoi> that's the only issue keeping me installing
[19:22] <PotatoBoi> if i do install the correct nvidia propietary drivers
[19:22] <akik> vacho: if you chmod g+s the directory, everything under will inherit the group of the directory. use umask to set default mask for chmod
[19:22] <PotatoBoi> and reboot
[19:22] <PotatoBoi> does it work correctly ?
[19:22] <cscf> PotatoBoi, it should.  You could install to a USB if you want to test.
[19:22] <ubuntivity> Bashing-om: what if I disable os-prober of x86 from within the x64 system then update-grub from the x64 system?
[19:22] <PotatoBoi> cscf how much space is required for a USB install ?
[19:22] <akik> vacho: i mean use umask to set the mask for newly created files
[19:23] <cscf> PotatoBoi, Ubuntu Desktop?  16 maybe?  It used to fit on 8 but I don't think it does anymore.
[19:23] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: using 12.04 is a matter of personal preference. about bootscriptinfo I'll do it in a moment
[19:23] <PotatoBoi> cscf Ubuntu Desktop
[19:23] <cscf> ubuntivity, well 12.04 isn't supported much longer, you know
[19:24] <Bashing-om> ubuntivity: IF the "old system" is to be that secondary system then yes .. disable 30_os-prober in that install . Such that the new system controls what to boot .// Well to disable 30_os-prober you must have access to that file system , either booted or mounted from outside .
[19:24] <PotatoBoi> cscf got 20 gigs of empty space on the pendrive that i placed the iso into
[19:24] <PotatoBoi> used rufus
[19:25] <chaitime> sup
[19:25] <Mr_SinkOrSwim> Ahoy
[19:26] <Mr_SinkOrSwim> Another day in pradise :P
[19:26] <cscf> PotatoBoi, right, so if you want, you can either install it as persistent liveusb, or you can put the iso on something smaller and install to it.  Or, you know, just dual boot.
[19:26] <PotatoBoi> cscf need to be sure about drivers before dualbooting or installing
[19:26] <PotatoBoi> prefer to go with a persistent liveusb
[19:26] <PotatoBoi> see if everything works out then dualboot
[19:27] <vacho> cscf: I did, and I got it resolved..thank you for helping
[19:27] <ramrebol_> Now I'm trying to download a 32bits version of ubuntu from ubuntu.com (via torrent) but it's not downloading
[19:27] <ramrebol_> there exists some direct download to the 32 bits version?
[19:28] <cscf> ramrebol_, should be right next to the torrent download.
[19:28] <donchriscoe>  /msg nickserv id rabbit
[19:28] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: Bashing-om: cscf: here is the pastebin of my bootinfoscript http://pastebin.com/4TvhMzk9
[19:28] <elias_a> ramrebol_: What do you mean? No data coming down to you?
[19:28] <akik> ramrebol_: http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/16.04.1/ select "i386"
[19:29] <ramrebol_> I mean, 0 seeds, no data comming down.
[19:30] <ramrebol_> thanks akik: with that problem solved :D
[19:30] <ramrebol_> cscf: (I don't know why I dont's see :/)
[19:30] <ramrebol_> thanks all
[19:31] <ubuntivity> Bashing-om: does removing x permission from os-prober enough to disable it?
[19:31] <Kurogane> Anyone can help me with this http://paste.ee/p/shKsX , i just want to run the command and without ask password.
[19:32]  * ubuntivity wonders: did I just see a nickserv password here?!!
[19:34] <B0toto> ?
[19:34] <PotatoBoi> cscf is it possible to install drivers on the liveusb
[19:35] <cscf> PotatoBoi, you should be able to, but they aren't persistent unless you specifically made a persistent USB
[19:36] <PotatoBoi> cscf to make it persistent i just select the usb and partition it as normal
[19:36] <PotatoBoi> and install the bootloader into it ?
[19:36] <Guest17168> question please,.....dose anyone know when there will be a fix for the rx480-hdmi problem
[19:37] <cscf> Guest17168, what problem?
[19:37] <Guest17168> no vid
[19:37] <cscf> PotatoBoi, well, that makes a full Ubuntu install, which works too.
[19:37] <Guest17168> i put the thing in, and fired it up,....no vid.
[19:38] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: Bashing-om: cscf: gonna reboot and see
[19:38] <PotatoBoi> cscf thanks for all the help,i just have one question left
[19:38] <cscf> Guest17168, your first comment sounded like it was a known issue?
[19:38] <Guest17168> known issue,..It is.
[19:38] <Guest17168> Ive tryed a few ting to get it back up,....but to no avail
[19:39] <cscf> Guest17168, well then you should monitor the bug report for news.
[19:39] <Guest17168> Ive got several machines but my big machine, has the 480 in it,...Ide love to have it up too
[19:39] <PotatoBoi> cscf my resolution is bad when using the livecd due to using the drivers,if i install them on the livecd can i begin using the new drivers already ?
[19:39] <Guest17168> im just wondering if there will be some fix in the future for the 480
[19:40] <cscf> PotatoBoi, so, usually the cleanest way to make sure you're using new drivers properly is to reboot.  But if you install drivers on a livecd, they are lost on reboot.  lol.
[19:41] <PotatoBoi> cscf so it's impossible to do that ?
[19:41] <cscf> PotatoBoi, if you do a normal install to a USB, from another medium, then you can install things normally and it will be exactly like a normal system.
[19:41] <akik> Kurogane: does it help if you put in "user1 ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: NGINX_RESTART, NGINX_RELOAD"
[19:41] <PotatoBoi> cscf alrighty then,thanks !
[19:41] <Guest63988> icfconfig
[19:42] <Guest63988> hey guyz###
[19:43] <akik> Kurogane: don't know if this applies to you but "When multiple entries match for a user, they are applied in order.  Where there are multiple matches, the last match is used (which is not necessarily the most specific match)."
[19:48] <Kurogane> akik, nop, always ask password
[19:50] <dr4c4n_> I can't get encryption to work on any ubuntu 16.04.1 flavor
[19:51] <dr4c4n_> what I mean is, I do the installation and select disk encryption, then when I boot, it asks me for the disk encryption password, says it was setup successfully, then the boot hangs. Does anyone else have experience with this/
[19:54] <vacho>  /j #math
[19:56] <darkdrgn2k> for a local mirror can i just copy the data of the cd?
[19:59] <stanger> hi
[20:05] <dr4c4n_> hi there, I'm having issues with disk encryption, I can only login if I go to the recovery option in the grub menu first, how do I make my normal boot work?
[20:07] <Gallowglass> Still working my permissions problem on /var/spool/cups, found an item from 2013 where it had the wrong permissions, but how I do find a workaround?
[20:08] <guest245> Hi, Im running Ubuntu 16.04 and am running two monitors with an R9 380, one attached via HDMI, the other VGA. The HDMI monitor is active during boot and grub, but very rarely works in the OS 😞
[20:09] <dr4c4n_> guest245: have you got arandr
[20:09] <dr4c4n_> ?
[20:09] <dr4c4n_> sudo apt-get install arandr, you might be able to see both screens and activate / enable them using it
[20:12] <guest245> Thanks, Ill give it a shot
[20:13] <dr4c4n_> guest245: np, good luck
[20:14] <guest245> no luck, HDMI monitor indicates there is a feed from the cable, and sometimes flickers, but is black just like before 🙁
[20:15] <guest245> This is a fresh, updated install with amdgpu
[20:15] <dr4c4n_> guest245: can you see it in settings display?
[20:16] <dr4c4n_> and did you run arandr with sudo ?
[20:16] <guest245> What's even weirder is that sometimes it works fine, but its black 80% of the time
[20:16] <guest245> Yeah, I can see it and I've aligned it, and I tried arandr with sudo too
[20:17] <dr4c4n_> guest245: that would be my suggestion, the other thing is attempting to access the settings on the command line
[20:17] <dr4c4n_> with display:0 / display:1
[20:19] <guest245> I think this guy on Reddit is having the same problem as me, but no replies: https://m.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/4gtcw7/help_ubuntu_1604_dual_monitor_one_remains_black/
[20:22] <zackychan> Hi everybody, I have 2 SSD on my ubuntu server. I would like to mount a new partition on the unused /dev/sdb2 . Don't know how to do it
[20:23] <theShirbiny> 1- put a file system on /dev/sdb2 2- mount /dev/sdb2 /mountpoint
[20:23] <theShirbiny> make sure you don't have anything important on /dev/sdb2
[20:23] <cscf> zackychan, ^ And then put it into fstab, since presumably you want it to stay mounted when you reboot.
[20:24] <zackychan> mount /deux /dev/sdb2
[20:24] <zackychan> mount: special device /deux does not exist
[20:24] <k1l_> zackychan: the other way around
[20:25] <zackychan> mount /dev/sdb2 /deux
[20:25] <k1l_> mount /dev/sdb2 /deux #and make sure the directory /deux does exist
[20:25] <zackychan> mount: mount point /deux does not exist
[20:26] <daveomcd> when I type which qmake I get nothing and it tells me to install qtchooser... when I apt-get install qt chooser it says its already installed... how can i resolve this?
[20:27] <zackychan> I succeeded to mount /deux on /dev/sdb2     , now how can I be sure I don't use soft Raid on this ubuntu server ?
[20:28] <Bashing-om> !info qmake
[20:28] <theShirbiny> zackychan, how did you format /dev/sdb2?
[20:29] <Bashing-om> daveomcd: The correct package name ?
[20:29] <zackychan> theShirbiny , using ext4
[20:29] <zackychan>  theShirbiny  using mkfs
[20:30] <zackychan> with 90M inode
[20:30] <daveomcd> Bashing-om, I thought it was qmake? It's saying I need to install qtchooser so maybe thats it?
[20:31] <CrtxReavr> Everytime I log into my ubuntu server, I see a message that 2 packages can be updated. . . but when I do 'apt-get update' & 'apt-get upgrade' they never get updated.
[20:31] <k1l_> CrtxReavr: run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[20:32] <Bashing-om> !info qt4-qmake | daveomcd
[20:33] <CrtxReavr> k1l_, what'd that do exactly?
[20:33] <daveomcd> ah i'll try that
[20:33] <theShirbiny> cool, I don't really know much about raid, I would guess type lsblk -fs and check if there's any mdadm or raid mentioned there
[20:33] <Bashing-om> daveomcd: :) .. maybe yes .
[20:33] <daveomcd> Bashing-om, actually i did it and it says it's already installed
[20:34] <k1l_> CrtxReavr: it loads a new package list from the servers and then installs all updates. some upgrades need to rmeove other packages or install new other packages. that doesnt work with "apt upgrade" alone.
[20:34] <CrtxReavr> k1l_, I see. . . thank you.
[20:35] <Jakey2> why do i get permission denied for http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23217486/ even when i sudo
[20:35] <theShirbiny> CrtxReavr, also check if whatever script generating /etc/motd is working
[20:35] <Jakey2> works ok when i su
[20:35] <V7> Hello all :D
[20:35] <k1l_> Jakey2: the sudo doesnt get pushed behind the >
[20:35] <Bashing-om> daveomcd: And now, restate the issue as the correct package is identified .
[20:36] <k1l_> Jakey2: use echo and then | sudo tee
[20:36] <Jakey2> k1l_, thanks
[20:37] <Bashing-om> daveomcd: There is also : qt5-qmake/trusty-updates,trusty-security 5.2.1+dfsg-1ubuntu14.3 amd64 .
[20:37] <theShirbiny> Jakey2: try, sudo  "gunzip -c /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/sample-config-files/server.conf.gz > /etc/openvpn/server.conf"
[20:39] <Guest92238>  hello, i try to install lxd with apt but apt install lxd hangs during configuration: lxd (2.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1~ppa1) wird eingerichtet ..
[20:39] <Guest92238> Fortschritt: [ 66%] [#############################################....
[20:39] <bipul> is sector=block ? or N number of sector constitute block ?
[20:39] <Guest92238> i try it with the default package and also with the ubuntu-lxc/lxd-stable ppa
[20:40] <Jakey2> theShirbiny, i get command not found
[20:41] <Bashing-om> !info lxd
[20:41] <theShirbiny> Jakey2: sorry, sudo sh -c "your commands"
[20:42] <Bashing-om> Guest92238: ppa-purge the PPA .. ?
[20:42] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | Guest92238
[20:42] <daveomcd> Bashing-om, I've installed both of those packages, however when I do `which qmake` it returns nothing - and when I try to install other software that it relies on it says... "Command 'qmake ' not available"
[20:43] <Guest92238> i try with out ppa (Version 2.0.4) from the default repro and 2.2 from the ppa
[20:43] <flyinprogrammer> is there an eta for when openssl  1.0.2i is going to be cut and pushed for xenial ?
[20:44] <Jakey2> is it good practice to include sudo sh -c "your commands" in a shell script?
[20:44] <k1l_> flyinprogrammer: usually the version number is not increased but here is a patched version pushed
[20:44] <k1l_> !info openssl
[20:44] <cscf> Jakey2, if the script is intended to be run as non-root, and must do a few things as root, sure.
[20:44] <Bashing-om> daveomcd: As there are optional versions (installed ) .. explictly declare the package .. maybe as ' dpkg -l qt4-qmake ' . see what is actually installed ?
[20:45] <Jakey2> ok
[20:45] <flyinprogrammer> @k1l_  ok, i'm just trying to get systems patched from today's advisory
[20:45] <k1l_> flyinprogrammer: is there a reason why you ask?
[20:45] <cscf> Jakey2, just be very careful when writing any script that uses root, especially if you then use it on another machine or give it to somebody els.e
[20:45] <flyinprogrammer> @k1l_  https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv/20160922.txt
[20:45] <daveomcd> Bashing-om, ok thanks let me try that
[20:46] <k1l_> flyinprogrammer: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3087-1/
[20:46] <Jakey2> cscf, sure
[20:46] <Bashing-om> daveomcd: Just "look'n" to see what is installed .
[20:46] <flyinprogrammer> @k1l_ ah - thank you, sorry for being dumb, you are awesome
[20:46] <daveomcd> i got a bunch of text back ... is there a way to paste it to you?
[20:46] <k1l_> flyinprogrammer: no problem. ubuntu.com/usn is where the security news are
[20:47] <flyinprogrammer> @k1l_ perfect, i will start following that, sorry for being a n00b
[20:47] <k1l_> flyinprogrammer: no need to apologize
[20:47] <daveomcd> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23217525/
[20:48] <Guest92238> ppa removed
[20:48] <Guest92238> lxd (2.0.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1) wird eingerichtet ...
[20:48] <Guest92238> same error
[20:48] <Guest92238> freeze at 66%
[20:49] <daveomcd> I get information when doing qt4-qmake but that's the old version i dont want
[20:49] <Jakey2> how do i change specific lines in a config file programitally, is it using sed command?
[20:49] <Bashing-om> daveomcd: So " ii  qt5-qmake:amd64 " is installed . can not say else about others .. but presently the tool is qt5-qmake .
[20:49] <Guest92238> side node: "As LXD evolves quite rapidly, we recommend Ubuntu users use our PPA:" from https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/03/20/installing-lxd-and-the-command-line-tool/
[20:49] <cscf> Jakey2, sed is a good way to do that, yes
[20:50] <Bashing-om> Guest92238: Pastebin ' apt cache policy lxd ' . See what we can start finding out .
[20:52] <Guest92238> https://gist.github.com/0eac3cfd1b4df9bdc2c4f31f0e97ac05
[20:52] <OerHeks> Guest, old info, current lxd >   https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxd and ppa > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-lxc/+archive/ubuntu/lxd-stable?field.series_filter=xenial
[20:53] <Gallowglass> I just wanted everyone to know that I've solved my printer issue! It turns out that the answer was to add $USER to the group lp: sudo usermod -a -G lp $USER
[20:54] <Gallowglass> And everyone is invited to the party. OerHeks has got the tab!!!!!
[20:56] <Jakey2> cscf, how would i go about changing a specific line in a config file with sed
[20:56] <cscf> Jakey2, do you want to detect a line and replace it, or change a word/bit of a line?
[20:56] <cscf> Jakey2, if you want to change a value, say, you can do: 'sed s/val=2/val=5/'
[20:57] <cscf> Once you've confirmed the result is what you want, add -i to edit in plac.e
[20:57] <Jakey2> cscf i want to uncomment a line
[20:57] <Jakey2> and change values
[20:58] <cscf> Jakey2, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24889346/sed-how-to-uncomment-a-line-that-contains-a-specific-string-inline-editing#24889374
[20:58] <cscf> I gtg now, however there is a lot of stuff online about sed.
[20:59] <Bashing-om> Guest92238: System fully updated ? pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' .
[20:59] <Guest92238> https://snag.gy/M4g3z2.jpg
[20:59] <Guest92238> yes
[20:59] <Jakey2> cscf, ok thanks
[21:00] <Bashing-om> !tab | Guest92238
[21:02] <Guest92238> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9427f038d980f1a1f4984f97a9851d98
[21:04] <Jakey2> say for example you wanted to provsion 100 ubuntu 16.04 desktops with specific firefox settings on each how would you do that?
[21:04] <Jakey2> for example with add blocker already installed?
[21:05] <classy_cameltoe> Is there a cmd that will shutdown my computer after say 30min?
[21:06] <k1l_> classy_cameltoe: shutdown
[21:06] <arooni> anyway to find out where ubuntu installs npm and its assorted packages to ?
[21:06] <classy_cameltoe> K1l but that will shut it down right away.
[21:06] <k1l_> classy_cameltoe: no
[21:06] <Bashing-om> Guest92238: Show now ' LANG=C;sudo apt install lxd ' .
[21:07] <k1l_> classy_cameltoe: you can give it a timeframe
[21:07] <dax> classy_cameltoe: you can specify a delay, see man shutdown
[21:07] <classy_cameltoe> shutdown -hP 30
[21:07] <classy_cameltoe> oh cool, thx
[21:07] <Guest92238> same
[21:08] <Bashing-om> Guest92238: Please show - I do not do well in guessing games ..
[21:08] <classy_cameltoe> Is there a way to at least try xfce on Ubuntu? Can't really get my head rapped around Unity. Boss said I could give xfce a try.
[21:08] <Guest92238> https://snag.gy/Lc2rMO.jpg
[21:09] <xangua> classy_cameltoe: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[21:10] <classy_cameltoe> xangua will that work after I have installed Ubuntu with the default desktop?
[21:10] <k1l_> Guest92238: seems like a postinstall script fails for lxd?
[21:11] <k1l_> classy_cameltoe: yes. you can install several desktops on ubuntu and change on the login screen
[21:11] <Bashing-om> classy_cameltoe: Burn a live disk - http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ . Try it and see .
[21:11] <Guest92238> how do I find that out?
[21:11] <classy_cameltoe> k1l_, Bashing-om thx guys
[21:14] <Guest92238> btw: 4.7.4-040704-generic if its usefull
[21:15] <Guest92238> dmesg:
[21:15] <Guest92238> [352146.369421] upstart: lxd post-start process (13799) terminated with status 1
[21:15] <Bashing-om> Guest92238: Maybe try and purge what is currently installed; what returns ls -al /var/cache/apt/archives/lxd* ' ?
[21:15] <Guest92238> [352146.428036] upstart: lxd main process (13994) terminated with status 127
[21:15] <Guest92238> [352146.428041] upstart: lxd main process ended, respawning
[21:16] <k1l_> Guest92238: seems like its trying to start lxd while its installing it
[21:16] <Guest92238> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3585020 Aug 22 13:20 /var/cache/apt/archives/lxd_2.0.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1_amd64.deb
[21:16] <Bashing-om> !info lxd
[21:17] <OerHeks> 4.7.4 .. are you on mint / elementary ?
[21:17] <Guest92238> OerHeks: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.7.4/
[21:17] <k1l_> Guest92238: can you boot an original kernel?
[21:18] <k1l_> mainline kernels can miss some patches.
[21:18] <Guest92238> yes .. still installed but need newer kernels for btrfs fixes
[21:19] <OerHeks> it can be a bumpy ride mainline kernel, in combination the the lxd ppa ...
[21:20] <Jakey2> when i do man ex dont get anything
[21:20] <Jakey2> when i do "man ex" dont get anything
[21:20] <Jakey2> ex(1) a command on ubuntu?
[21:22] <OerHeks> Jakey2, they are all part of the nvi package,  ex, vi, view - text editors > http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/nvi.1.html
[21:22] <Jakey2> OerHeks, ok thanks
[21:23] <Guest92238> !info lxc2
[21:26] <Jakey2> how would you setup 100 16.04 ubuntu boxes with firefox setup a certain way on each box?
[21:26] <Jakey2> say for example you wanted them loaded automatically with add blocker
[21:27] <Jakey2> or to not rember history
[21:27] <Jakey2> *remember
[21:28] <Guest92238> new information: if i stop the lxd service, the installation will complete
[21:28] <Guest92238> but i'm unable to start the lxd service
[21:29] <Guest92238> lxd main process (20196) terminated with status 127
[21:31] <Jordan_U> Jakey2: For all users, or for a specific user?
[21:31] <Jakey2> for all users
[21:31] <Jordan_U> Jakey2: What will these boxes be used for?
[21:31] <Jakey2> desktops
[21:31] <Jakey2> for users
[21:31] <Jakey2> say for example i have a school
[21:32] <Jakey2> i want these boxes provisioned a certain way
[21:32] <DArqueBishop> Jakey2: Puppet.
[21:32] <Jakey2> can puppet provision firefox in a certain way
[21:32] <x29a> hi, are those instructions still up2date? i would have created an md over both harddrive devices and then the partitions within the md... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[21:32] <Jakey2> ?
[21:34] <Jakey2> DArqueBishop, ?
[21:35] <Jordan_U> Jakey2: You can add the appropriately configured .mozilla/firefox/ directory to /etc/skel/ so that newly created users default to having that firefox profile.
[21:35] <Jakey2> Jordan_U, how would you load them with addblocker for example
[21:36] <Jakey2> or would you need to setup once and just clone the machines
[21:36] <Jakey2> ?
[21:36] <tgm4883> Jakey2: you would just need to set it up once and copy that directory to /etc/skel
[21:37] <OerHeks> !netsplit
[21:37] <OerHeks> now a mass-join plz
[21:38] <tomreyn> there you go
[21:49] <PotatoBoi> wello
[21:49] <PotatoBoi> i am back
[21:49] <PotatoBoi> i have noticed my usb has booted as legacy
[21:49] <PotatoBoi> altho my boot is legacy+uefi
[21:50] <PotatoBoi> could i just switch to UEFI only ?
[22:22] <devan> ok I'm running ubuntu-mate, is this the proper channel for ubuntu-mate?
[22:22] <k1l_> devan: you can ask in here. this is general ubuntu support
[22:23] <dax> devan: here or #ubuntu-mate works
[22:24] <devan> I just cant seem to get rid of these unpredictable stop/start jobs! I'm sorry but after many attempts and trying to tackle the problem, I have no choice to conclude: systemd is far from stable unless there's a way to get it to work with my encrypted swap
[22:26] <xdccMule[6414DS]> saaalve!!!
[22:26] <PotatoBoi> devan why is your swap encrypted
[22:26] <PotatoBoi> xdccMule[6414DS] br ?
[22:26] <xdccMule[6414DS]> no
[22:26] <xdccMule[6414DS]> Ciao PotatoBoi
[22:27] <devan> nobody, i've read on google has seemed to been able to pinpoint the exact cause other than it's a "systemd bug" or so I've been getting back from google's search results.
[22:27] <k1l_> devan: if you state the exact issue people could have a look
[22:27] <PotatoBoi> but why did you encrypt your swap
[22:27] <devan> PotatoBoi because I want it encrypted?
[22:27] <PotatoBoi> if that floats your boat
[22:28] <devan> K1l That's problem: the exact issue. it can't be found not be me or anyone having these major delays in boot up or shutdown..
[22:28] <devan> so Ive read
[22:28] <k1l_> devan: are you making this so difficult to help you on purpose?
[22:29] <devan> The better question is: why is systemd giving problems with luks?
[22:29] <k1l_> "i use ubuntu ..... my issue is...... i get the following errors....."
[22:29] <k1l_> devan: so you have a too long boot up?
[22:30] <Jordan_U> devan: No, that really isn't a better question. Please pastebin the output of "journalctl -b -2".
[22:31] <devan> somehow when I create an encrypted swap on say.. /dev/sda6, I call it /dev/mapper/cryptswap, right? add it into fstab and crypttab as instructed by online help, but then for some reason, on every bootup, cryptswap has a complete different UUID, according to blkid. I dont understand that. this was not an issue in 14.04
[22:32] <k1l_> so far i have not heard people arguing luks doesnt work anymore with 16.04.
[22:33] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> I ran a commaond to delete old kernels that I found here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/401581/bash-one-liner-to-delete-only-old-kernels  and now I can't connect to the internet.  I run ubuntu 14.04 on that computer (sitting next to me now). Does anyone know how to fix this?
[22:33] <devan> i do "/dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256" and it shows the first two slow-pokes:systemd-cryptsetup@crypt_sda3.service, and then NetworkManager-wait-online.service, and many other services
[22:33] <devan> i mean
[22:34] <devan> systemd-analyze blame
[22:34] <devan> didn't copy that right
[22:34] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> dpkg -l linux-{image,headers}-* | awk '/^ii/{print $2}' | egrep '[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+' | grep -v $(uname -r) | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge  <-- From the page linked above ^
[22:34] <devan> Jordan_U one moment please
[22:34] <k1l_> me-0kjIAG2lin9: can you get that machine on lan-cable? if so try to make sure that "linux-generic" is installed
[22:35] <Jordan_U> devan: Where does /dev/urandom come into this?
[22:35] <k1l_> devan: please put the the logifles or output on paste.ubuntu.com . dont leave stuff out you think is not important
[22:35] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> k1l_ : I'll try that
[22:35] <devan> Jordan_U I made a copy and paste error
[22:36] <devan> Jordan_U: boot ID has no effect, no persistent journal was found
[22:37] <devan> Jordan_U in crypttab is crypt_swap /dev/sda6 /dev/urandom swap
[22:38] <Jordan_U> devan: sudo mkdir /var/log/journal/ # This will enable persistant journalctl logs
[22:38] <devan> in fstab its: /dev/mapper/crypt_swap                      none   swap    sw 0 0
[22:39] <devan> ok I added that directory in
[22:40] <Jordan_U> devan: Then please Configure everything in a way that you expect it to work, then reboot and pastebin the complete output of "journalctl" (if you run it interactively it will be paged, make sure you pipe to pastebinit or redirect to a file to get the full contents).
[22:40] <devan> ok so when I have those both set that way: crypttab and fstab and swappon /dev/mapper/crypt_swap, it works until I shutdown and bootup
[22:41] <devan> okay i'll return in a minute for that.. and thanks jordan for your patience from my craziness
[22:48] <devan> ok im back and unfortunately journalcrl -b -2 still returns "Data from the specified boot (-2) is not available: No such boot ID in journal"
[22:50] <devan> so basically for reasons unknown, /dev/dm-0 and /dev/dm-1 isn't shutting down but also I dont have lvm set up as I dont have raid
[22:50] <ubuntivity> hello everyone. How can I determine if my GRUB is installed on /dev/sda or /dev/sda1?
[22:52] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity
[22:52] <PotatoBoi> do fdisk -l
[22:52] <PotatoBoi> and paste the output here http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[22:52] <nacc> ubuntivity: /dev/sda is a disk, /dev/sda1 is a partition on that disk
[22:53] <ubuntivity> nacc: I know that. But I'm suspecting that my current GRUB is loading from /dev/sda1 rather than /dev/sda
[22:53] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity MBR or GPT ?
[22:53] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> k1l_I can not connect via ethernet cable. uname -r lists 3.13.0.96-generic as its only line of output and ls /boot shows the same in it's contents. sudo ifconfig lists only lo (no eth0 and no wlan0). Whether I run sudo ifconfig eth0 up or I run sudo ifconfig wlan0 up - I get the same response from the terminal : "*: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device" . sudo rfkill list gives no output at all.\
[22:54] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: MBR. here is my fdisk -l http://pastebin.com/2sAAHTeg
[22:54] <Jordan_U> devan: That's because you haven't booted twice with a persistant journal yet (and why the second time I asked for just the complete output of "journalctl").
[22:54] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity it seems you installed grub in /dev/sda1
[22:55] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity try to cd /boot and do ls
[22:57] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: ls /boot gives http://pastebin.com/Yp9TjAzX
[22:57] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity alright,so GRUB is installed on /boot
[22:57] <devan> Jordan_U: I'm afraid I just understand what you're asking
[22:57] <devan> I just don't*
[22:57] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity you just need to know if /dev/sda1 is mounted as boot or not
[22:58] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: how to do that?
[22:58] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity try doing cfdisk
[22:58] <PotatoBoi> cfdisk shows you the partition table and what everything's mounted as
[22:59] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: it gives me FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 7: enlarged logical partitions overlap
[22:59] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: any simpler alternative ?
[22:59] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity to awnser your question grub is installed on /boot
[22:59] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> ANyone?
[22:59] <PotatoBoi> but you need to find out what boot is mounted as
[23:00] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: /boot is a directory in /dev/sda1
[23:00] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: so is it /dev/sda1 that GRUB is installed on?
[23:00] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity mhm
[23:00] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity if you delete /dev/sda1 it causes your PC to become unbootable
[23:01] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: my issue is: I have 2 versions of Ubuntu, the older is x86 and the newer is x64
[23:01] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity alright,what about it
[23:01] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: the GRUB that appears is of the older x86 one
[23:01] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity i don't understand
[23:02] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: when I run grub-install /dev/sda and update-grub from within my x64 OS it does nothing
[23:02] <PotatoBoi> oooh
[23:02] <PotatoBoi> did you log in as root ?
[23:02] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: I use sudo
[23:03] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity what output it gives you when you run grub-install /dev/sda
[23:03] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: it says no errors reported.
[23:04] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: Please run boot info script, https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[23:04] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: here is it http://pastebin.com/Q9mScX7V
[23:05] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: here is it http://pastebin.com/Q9mScX7V
[23:05] <ubuntivity> pardon me, PotatoBoi
[23:06] <ubuntivity> So, Jordan_U. what do you say?
[23:07] <_VXx>  0;
[23:08] <devan> ok journalctl -b -2 is scrolling but not all of it, just partial. how do I get the whole report to a txt?
[23:09] <ubuntivity> my info says "Grub2 (v1.99) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks at sector 1 of
[23:09] <ubuntivity>     the same hard drive for core.img. core.img is at this location and looks
[23:09] <ubuntivity>     for (,msdos5)/boot/grub on this drive."
[23:09] <ubuntivity> why does it look for (,msdos5) rather than (,msdos1) ??
[23:10] <craigify> greetings.  I have a software package that looks for -lsystemd-daemon but it doesn't seem to resolve on Ubuntu 16.04.  libsystemd0 and libsystemd-dev are installed, and I'm kind of stuck at the moment.
[23:10] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: Please pastebin the output of "cat /proc/mounts". (using http://pastebin.ubuntu.com ).
[23:12] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23217996/
[23:12] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: What is the output of "readlink /dev/disk/by-uuid/7e17232a-d94d-40fd-a8bb-f88e8c01ceb1"?
[23:13] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: ../../sda1
[23:13] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> So I ren this command I got from : http://askubuntu.com/questions/401581/bash-one-liner-to-delete-only-oldp-kernels    to delet old kernels and now my networking is borked!      I can not connect via ethernet cable. uname -r lists 3.13.0.96-generic as its only line of output and ls /boot shows the same in it's contents. sudo ifconfig lists only lo (no eth0 and no wlan0). Whether I run sudo ifconfig eth0up or I run sudo ifconf
[23:14] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> Is there anyhone would could help?
[23:14] <PotatoBoi> me-0kjIAG2lin9 don't know a lot about networking
[23:15] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> That computer is the only good computer in the house - this one I'm typing to you on is a complete pos (I need that other computer working)
[23:15] <PotatoBoi> me-0kjIAG2lin9 i would help you right now but i have to go rn
[23:15] <PotatoBoi> see you all
[23:16] <nacc> me-0kjIAG2lin9: um, that one-liner seems ... bad
[23:16] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: what do you suggest??
[23:16] <nacc> i mean not ideal, at least
[23:17] <devan> ok im at a loss to how to get journalctl to a log.txt
[23:17] <Jordan_U> devan: journalctl > /tmp/log.txt
[23:17] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> nacc: yeah. dunno what to do no tho
[23:17] <devan> Jordan_U, omg thanks!
[23:18]  * ubuntivity stares at the wall, with hope!
[23:19] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> I'm wondering if upbgrading from a burned dvd (I'm on 14.04 now) to the latest version would somehow pull in whatever is missing or broken and leave me with a nice useable system - but would I lose personal data in the process?
[23:19] <OerHeks> systemd-analyze plot > filename.svg
[23:19] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: Please pastebin the complete output of "sudo grub-install --debug /dev/sda" (you can do so automatically by making sure pastebinit is installed and running "sudo grub-install --debug /dev/sda 2>&1 | pastebinit").
[23:20] <nacc> me-0kjIAG2lin9: why did you need to delete old kernels by hand? you really shouldn't run anything as root that you don't fully undestand and  know how to undo, ideally
[23:20] <nacc> me-0kjIAG2lin9: it's hard to know what exactly you removed from what you've described so far
[23:21] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23218016/
[23:21]  * ubuntivity feels grateful for the tip about pastebinit
[23:21] <nacc> me-0kjIAG2lin9: you may want to simply reinstall, but someone maybe to help you recover your current system. Depending your partitioning choices, you may be ableto keep your personal data on reinstall
[23:21] <devan> too massive for pastebin
[23:22] <bob23> is there a way to bring up the vim options in vim
[23:22] <bob23> ?
[23:22] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: grub-install is installing for UEFI, not BIOS. Which is interesting, since it should only be doing that if you are currently booted via UEFI.
[23:22] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> nacc: I think I'm going to try that and hope for the best ( a reinstall ). thax
[23:23] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: How can I determine the way I'm booted via??
[23:24] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: does that have to do with AHCI vs. Compatible modes for S-ATA?
[23:24] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: It might actually just be because you're using an ancient Ubuntu with an ancient grub. My guess is that you have grub-efi installed but not grub-pc. Please pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep grub".
[23:24] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: No.
[23:25] <adamsilver> Hi guys - /root/.bashrc is not being sourced, why?
[23:25] <Jordan_U> adamsilver: You shouldn't be logging in as root, and that would be the only time that /root/.bashrc should be sourced.
[23:25] <devan> forget it... see you guys later
[23:26] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: it is true that grub-efi is installed!
[23:26] <SonikkuAmerica> adamsilver: I'd suggest you [ cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~/.bashrc && source ~/.bashrc ] as yourself if you're looking to reset your .bashrc to defaults
[23:27] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23218028/
[23:27] <adamsilver> Jordan_U / SonikkuAmerica: I want to remain logged in as root.
[23:27] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: what if I'm actually booted via UEFI? How can I ever know?
[23:27] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: sudo apt-get install grub-pc # Which might also remove grub-efi, which would be good.
[23:28] <SonikkuAmerica> adamsilver: In Ubuntu, there's absolutely no reason to ever log in as root
[23:28] <SonikkuAmerica> !root | adamsilver
[23:28] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: You're not, since you don't even have an EFI System Partition, but you could check by running "[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS" .
[23:29] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: your intelligent one-liner outputs BIOS
[23:29] <adamsilver> SonikkuAmerica: I am not logged in as root for Ubuntu itself. I am using paramiko.org to build the server via Python code. I can't edit root owned files via Paramiko if I am not connected as root (sudo doesn't work with their SFTP client)
[23:30] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: I'm going to install grub-pc and see. Are there any possible problems?
[23:30] <SonikkuAmerica> adamsilver: That's an interesting use case you have there... maybe #ubuntu-server might help
[23:31] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: and would I need to run grub-install and update-grub again after installation?
[23:32] <Fione> Hello.
[23:32] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: It's always possible for there to be other problems, but I don't expect any. I will be gone for a while, but I'll be back for a short time in about 45 minutes, and maybe back longer in a few hours.
[23:32] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: can you wait for, say, 4 minutes??!
[23:32] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: just long enough for me to see the results!
[23:33] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: The installation of grub-pc should do that automatically, and it would be a good test to be sure that the grub-pc package is configured correctly.
[23:33] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: I'll quickly check back in in 5-10 minutes.
[23:34] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: OK, my grub-pc has reconfigured itself, I'll be rebooting in a moment to see the results
[23:37] <CodeMouse92> How do I point curl.cainfo in php.ini to use the certificates installed on Ubuntu? I'm not sure what the bundle .crt for that is
[23:37] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: Hello again. It successfully worked :) although it booted a little slower this time with no plymouth bootsplash displayed :/
[23:37] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: Thanks for your thorough follow up and effective diagnosis and solution
[23:38] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: as for the bootsplash and the stuff, I'll spend some hours googling here and there
[23:38] <adamsilver> SonikkuAmerica: Ah, it turned out Ubuntu reads /root/.profile not .bashrc when logging as root. Thanks for pointing out /etc/skel/.bashrc. I copied it over to .profile and now I see colors and stuff, too :)
[23:51] <ChrisGriden> Ubuntu 16.4LTS keeps losing power (somewhat) randomly on Toshiba P755-S5391. I'm trying to troubleshoot the temperatures with 'sensors' but I'm not getting much info from 'sensors'
[23:53] <ChrisGriden> Sensors returns this output.. paste.ubuntu.com/23218117/
[23:56] <ChrisGriden> pwmconfig returns http://paste.ubuntu.com/23218122/