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sakrecoernow we have an iso and its in the tracker!07:30
flocculantjust in time for it all to go wrong for the respin :D07:30
sakrecoerhaha! 07:30
sakrecoerflocculant: i admit feeling for anticipating that and go for last minute testing07:31
flocculant:)07:31
sakrecoerflocculant: good morning also :)07:31
flocculantgood morning to you too 07:31
sakrecoerflocculant: any news from the lock/suspend bug?07:31
flocculanttime to stagger of into the day for me, so cya later07:31
sakrecoerok, read you later have a good one flocculant o/ 07:32
flocculantnot much - we're having to decide *soon* whether to ditch it or not07:32
sakrecoeri will be quitely following your discussion in #x-d07:33
sakrecoerif i knew anything worthy to share i would obviously, but i don't hence 'quietly'07:34
DalekSecShould likely mention here too.  I uploaded a fixed version of xfce4-session so xscreensaver users will be able to use the "New Login" button.07:45
sakrecoeroh wow! thanks DalekSec ! :) 07:53
sakrecoeri've missed having a slide show of my photos as screensaver, such a good way to actualy look at ones photolib07:54
DalekSecsakrecoer: Shouldn't really affect you as you don't ship xscreensaver.07:54
sakrecoerno, but now we could :)07:54
sakrecoerprobably not this roind though07:54
sakrecoer*round07:54
eylulok, question about testing. how much do we worry about lack of translations? 10:36
sakrecoereylul: thinking about this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/155018611:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1550186 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "First entry of boot-menu "Try UbuntuStudio without installing" do not get translated into the chosen language" [High,Confirmed]11:19
sakrecoerif yes, it has been there for long now, that is, despite what the QA test says, it doesn't seem to be a game stopper :D11:19
eylulyes!11:21
eylulwell it turns out there is quite a bit of Turkish translation missing all over the place but I am not sure what is considered critical, and what is considered "file the bug and move on"11:21
eylulthat's the only one on that screen through11:22
flocculanteylul: translations for anything other than 'your flavour' are done elsewhere, so I'd not consider that critical - you'd be waiting on some other team to do that11:30
flocculantsame here - I had someone mail me yesterday about exactly the same thing - told them exactly the same thing11:30
flocculantof course what studio does is up to them - just my pov :)11:30
eylulI am happy to go with whatever I just wasn't sure because the testing instructions were explicit on translation. well move on it is ;)12:37
sakrecoerJLye: here is the wiki page on testing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Testing/ISOTesting15:31
sakrecoerhere is the part on how to create the usb-drive: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Testing/ISOTesting#Create_an_Installer15:31
sakrecoeryou might want to add "bs=512"15:32
sakrecoerlike this: "sudo dd bs=512 if=/path/to/your.iso of=/dev/sdX"15:33
sakrecoerwhere sdX is the name of your USB drive15:33
sakrecoerhow do i let grub rebuild the boot menu?17:24
sakrecoercan it do it on itself?17:24
sakrecoeri might have deleted the wrong partition lol :D17:24
sakrecoerbut it would be weird, because one was encrypted and the other wasnt...17:25
sakrecoerbut when installed the 16.10 64 bit, it only wanted to install along side the partition i thought i had deleted..17:25
sakrecoerhmm... and calibre keeps on crashing on me...17:26
sakrecoernever got it running once since we pulled it in..17:26
sakrecoereylul: have you been able to run calibre?17:29
sakrecoeranyone tried it?17:30
sakrecoersame with ebook viewer, but is suspect they use the same things..17:32
sakrecoerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calibre/+bug/161686417:32
ubottuError: malone bug 1616864 not found17:32
sakrecoerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calibre/+bug/162120517:32
ubottuError: malone bug 1621205 not found17:32
sakrecoerboth are marked private... :/17:32
sakrecoerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calibre/+bug/161686417:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1616864 in calibre (Ubuntu) "calibre-parallel crashed with SIGSEGV in QObject::disconnect()" [Medium,New]17:37
sakrecoerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calibre/+bug/161686417:37
sakrecoerthere... i hope i'm not compromising myself by making it public lol... i use a gimmick password when testing anyway...17:38
sakrecoercommon ubottu bug #161686417:39
ubottuUbottu bug 1616864 in calibre (Ubuntu) "calibre-parallel crashed with SIGSEGV in QObject::disconnect()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161686417:39
sakrecoerhehe how about  bug #162120517:39
ubottubug 1621205 in calibre (Ubuntu) "ebook-viewer crashed with SIGSEGV in QObject::disconnect()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162120517:39
eylulsakrecoer: yes17:56
eylulI was able to run it just fine. that's weird17:56
eylulcalibre did crash after closing but it ran just fine. that's weird17:59
sakrecoereylul: it doesn't crash when you quit it?18:13
sakrecoerit happens to me with 32-but version aswell..18:13
eylulactually now it doesn't crash at all18:13
eylulalthough it did when I started the installation at first18:13
eylulso when I tried it on live-cd it crashed after a while after closing, on install it crashed after first launch and then again a bit later. (I didn't take it too seriously because.. after closing exit button). but now I am trying again, to get it to crash on install18:14
eylulso far..18:14
eylulnothing18:14
eylulnope, no crash18:15
sakrecoerok.. i have the same problem with ebook viewer...18:15
eylul*goes back to the live-cd*18:16
eylul-oh here we go18:16
sakrecoeralso once installed...18:16
eylulebook-viewer crashed. 18:16
eylulit just took a while18:16
eylulafter I exited18:16
eylulcan't replicate the calibre crash so far but who knows18:17
sakrecoercalibre runs fine, until i open inkscape or hydrogen... but on exit, it gives me a crash everysingle time...18:18
sakrecoerso i guess, it doesn't rn fine for me...18:18
eylul*blinks*18:18
eylullet me try replicating that18:18
sakrecoernicowe: what is your experience with calibre and ebook viewer?18:18
eylulalso.. I do want to try something else18:18
eylulumm sakrecoer: I just launched hydrogen on top of calibre18:21
eylulso far18:21
nicoweI have not tried them so far. I'm gonna do that right now 18:21
eylulno crash18:21
nicoweI'll be back in a few18:21
sakrecoereylul: what happens if you close it now?18:21
eylulclose calibre?18:21
eyluljust closed calibre.18:22
eylul*patiently waits for a crash, it takes a while sometimes*18:22
sakrecoerand this is a virtual machine right?18:22
eylulnope. no crash18:23
eylulyeah18:23
sakrecoerlast time i tried the live system on 3 different machines and it gave me the same result.18:23
sakrecoerbeta1 that is18:23
eylulwhat did you test this on?18:23
eyluland get the crash?18:23
sakrecoer2 different laptops and one stationary... 2 intel and one amd18:24
sakrecoeryes18:24
sakrecoerall of them18:24
eylulI do wonder if this is something that gets triggered with certain amount of memory or something18:25
eylulthis is weird18:25
eylul*waits for nicowe's report*18:25
sakrecoerany luck nicowe ? :)18:29
nicoweI ran well but now I have an error 18:31
nicowecalibre-parallel crashed with SIGSEV in QObject::disconnect()18:32
eylulon exit right?18:32
nicoweyes18:33
eylulannnd I just crashed it without exiting. 18:34
sakrecoernicowe: yupp thats the one..18:35
sakrecoertry ebook reader also if you can..18:35
sakrecoerit has a similar issue...18:36
sakrecoerbug #162120518:36
ubottubug 1621205 in calibre (Ubuntu) "ebook-viewer crashed with SIGSEGV in QObject::disconnect()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162120518:36
eylulsakrecoer I am beginning to wonder if the crash with hydrogen is a coincidence18:37
eyluland that it was going to crash with or without it18:37
sakrecoeron beta 1 it reproduced 10/10..18:37
sakrecoermaybe though...18:38
sakrecoermaybe it was going to crash anyway...18:38
eylulexactly18:38
eylulbecause while I did crash calibre once or twice, kind of failed at doing so with hydrogen :)18:38
nicowesakrecoer: yes I have the same error with ebook reader18:40
sakrecoercan you update your repport on the tracker nicowe, please? :)18:40
sakrecoernicowe: are you seonserey? what do you use to login? i can't find your launchpad page...18:41
nicoweon the testcase post-installation ?18:41
sakrecoerto login to the iso tracker...18:41
sakrecoeryes, that one :)18:41
nicoweyes i am seonserey I changed the name but it did not update for some reason 18:42
nicoweI'll fill the testcase18:42
sakrecoerdo you want me to add you to the ubuntustudio team, nicowe ? :)18:42
sakrecoerthanks!!18:42
nicoweyes please :)18:42
sakrecoercool! :) when you are don, can you pass me your launchpad url?18:43
nicowehttps://launchpad.net/~nicowe18:47
nicoweis that it ?18:47
sakrecoernicowe: :) yes!18:49
geirdalhehe18:50
nicoweokay i've added the result18:50
sakrecoerhello geirdal :)18:51
geirdalhi sakrecoer 18:51
eylulhi geirdal18:53
sakrecoergeirdal: did you manage to geirdify that picture and make a hi-res version of the top picture?18:54
eylulthis reminds me.. 18:57
geirdaleylul, hi18:58
geirdalIma working on it sakrecoer 18:58
geirdalwill finsh tomorrow18:59
sakrecoerawesome! :)18:59
geirdal:)18:59
eylulgeirdal19:02
eylulmay I add another to your queue of images? 19:02
eylul:)19:02
geirdalyes19:02
eylulhttp://ubuntustudio.azbulutlu.org/websiteImages/graphics2_1280.png this is an alternative image for graphics we would like to try19:02
geirdalok19:03
geirdalwill do that19:03
eylulawesome19:03
eylulthanks very much19:03
geirdalno thank you19:03
eylulalso do you think you could upload the .kra files somewhere if you have them? that way we don't have to ping you for every tiny edit, and I think sakrecoer plans to have a repo for everything together (sakrecoer feel free to correct me if I misunderstood you earlier), which reminds me I also need to do that for the image we used on other pages. 19:05
eylulwb nicowe19:07
sakrecoerguys, what do you think about the ebook-viewer and the LRF viewer, shouldn't those be in "office" with calibre?19:10
sakrecoerinstead of in graphics.. i'm reffering to the menu..19:11
eylulwell either all of them should be in office, or all of them in graphics19:13
eylulbut yeah19:14
geirdaloffice19:14
sakrecoeri agree "office" isn't the best word. but i think they should indeed all be in the same.19:15
eyluldoes it makes sense that scribus is in graphics while the rest of these programs are in office?19:15
geirdalscribus is office19:16
nicoweI would also put them both in office19:16
sakrecoerscribus is graphics design by all means.19:16
sakrecoerbut yeah, its ambiguous19:17
eylulcould be under both19:17
eylul(for scribus)19:17
sakrecoeri donÃÃ't quite agree... it's a layout program19:18
eylulwell that is why we added calibre too, it does ebooks from scratch19:18
sakrecoerit is like saying adobe-indesign is an office application.19:18
geirdaland therfore a graphic software! right?19:18
sakrecoergeirdal: yes, scribus is made for printed graphic design.19:19
sakrecoertypsetting, it also happens to be able to produce books, so i see the ambiguity, but it is defenitly a graphic design application19:20
eyluleh...19:20
eylulthere is.. a lot of discussion that can be made around this in terms of calibre, libreoffice, scribus etc.. but that is not something we should probably get into at this time :D19:22
eylulso lfr and ebook viewer into office categories makes sense :) 19:22
sakrecoeryou can't compare scribus to calibre and libreoffice by any mean, but sure19:22
geirdalit does19:22
eylul*moves to offtopic to elaborate19:23
sakrecoeri put the mockupof the release wiki page up: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/Beta2/UbuntuStudio20:13
eylulsakrecoer: in main multimedia packages, we should probably add krita, especially since there is the known situation that it is an outdated package20:17
eylulalso perhaps mention lmms as well. ;) *ducks the incoming object*20:17
sakrecoerwhat is there to mention? *ducks too in an empatetic reflex, unknowing of why*20:18
eylulheheh20:18
eylulwell lmms is a major program too, just like gimp, and ardour. :) That's all20:19
sakrecoertrue :20:20
sakrecoer:)20:20
eylul:)20:20
sakrecoeralso, now in alphabetical (big up krytarik )20:20
eylulheh20:21
sakrecoeri'm gonna mark the iso ready and head to bed..22:00
sakrecoerwe'll see tomorrow if there was a respin in the end or not...22:01

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