[07:30] <sakrecoer> now we have an iso and its in the tracker!
[07:30] <flocculant> just in time for it all to go wrong for the respin :D
[07:30] <sakrecoer> haha! 
[07:31] <sakrecoer> flocculant: i admit feeling for anticipating that and go for last minute testing
[07:31] <flocculant> :)
[07:31] <sakrecoer> flocculant: good morning also :)
[07:31] <flocculant> good morning to you too 
[07:31] <sakrecoer> flocculant: any news from the lock/suspend bug?
[07:31] <flocculant> time to stagger of into the day for me, so cya later
[07:32] <sakrecoer> ok, read you later have a good one flocculant o/ 
[07:32] <flocculant> not much - we're having to decide *soon* whether to ditch it or not
[07:33] <sakrecoer> i will be quitely following your discussion in #x-d
[07:34] <sakrecoer> if i knew anything worthy to share i would obviously, but i don't hence 'quietly'
[07:45] <DalekSec> Should likely mention here too.  I uploaded a fixed version of xfce4-session so xscreensaver users will be able to use the "New Login" button.
[07:53] <sakrecoer> oh wow! thanks DalekSec ! :) 
[07:54] <sakrecoer> i've missed having a slide show of my photos as screensaver, such a good way to actualy look at ones photolib
[07:54] <DalekSec> sakrecoer: Shouldn't really affect you as you don't ship xscreensaver.
[07:54] <sakrecoer> no, but now we could :)
[07:54] <sakrecoer> probably not this roind though
[07:54] <sakrecoer> *round
[10:36] <eylul> ok, question about testing. how much do we worry about lack of translations? 
[11:19] <sakrecoer> eylul: thinking about this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1550186
[11:19] <sakrecoer> if yes, it has been there for long now, that is, despite what the QA test says, it doesn't seem to be a game stopper :D
[11:21] <eylul> yes!
[11:21] <eylul> well it turns out there is quite a bit of Turkish translation missing all over the place but I am not sure what is considered critical, and what is considered "file the bug and move on"
[11:22] <eylul> that's the only one on that screen through
[11:30] <flocculant> eylul: translations for anything other than 'your flavour' are done elsewhere, so I'd not consider that critical - you'd be waiting on some other team to do that
[11:30] <flocculant> same here - I had someone mail me yesterday about exactly the same thing - told them exactly the same thing
[11:30] <flocculant> of course what studio does is up to them - just my pov :)
[12:37] <eylul> I am happy to go with whatever I just wasn't sure because the testing instructions were explicit on translation. well move on it is ;)
[15:31] <sakrecoer> JLye: here is the wiki page on testing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Testing/ISOTesting
[15:31] <sakrecoer> here is the part on how to create the usb-drive: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Testing/ISOTesting#Create_an_Installer
[15:32] <sakrecoer> you might want to add "bs=512"
[15:33] <sakrecoer> like this: "sudo dd bs=512 if=/path/to/your.iso of=/dev/sdX"
[15:33] <sakrecoer> where sdX is the name of your USB drive
[17:24] <sakrecoer> how do i let grub rebuild the boot menu?
[17:24] <sakrecoer> can it do it on itself?
[17:24] <sakrecoer> i might have deleted the wrong partition lol :D
[17:25] <sakrecoer> but it would be weird, because one was encrypted and the other wasnt...
[17:25] <sakrecoer> but when installed the 16.10 64 bit, it only wanted to install along side the partition i thought i had deleted..
[17:26] <sakrecoer> hmm... and calibre keeps on crashing on me...
[17:26] <sakrecoer> never got it running once since we pulled it in..
[17:29] <sakrecoer> eylul: have you been able to run calibre?
[17:30] <sakrecoer> anyone tried it?
[17:32] <sakrecoer> same with ebook viewer, but is suspect they use the same things..
[17:32] <sakrecoer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calibre/+bug/1616864
[17:32] <sakrecoer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calibre/+bug/1621205
[17:32] <sakrecoer> both are marked private... :/
[17:37] <sakrecoer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calibre/+bug/1616864
[17:37] <sakrecoer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calibre/+bug/1616864
[17:38] <sakrecoer> there... i hope i'm not compromising myself by making it public lol... i use a gimmick password when testing anyway...
[17:39] <sakrecoer> common ubottu bug #1616864
[17:39] <sakrecoer> hehe how about  bug #1621205
[17:56] <eylul> sakrecoer: yes
[17:56] <eylul> I was able to run it just fine. that's weird
[17:59] <eylul> calibre did crash after closing but it ran just fine. that's weird
[18:13] <sakrecoer> eylul: it doesn't crash when you quit it?
[18:13] <sakrecoer> it happens to me with 32-but version aswell..
[18:13] <eylul> actually now it doesn't crash at all
[18:13] <eylul> although it did when I started the installation at first
[18:14] <eylul> so when I tried it on live-cd it crashed after a while after closing, on install it crashed after first launch and then again a bit later. (I didn't take it too seriously because.. after closing exit button). but now I am trying again, to get it to crash on install
[18:14] <eylul> so far..
[18:14] <eylul> nothing
[18:15] <eylul> nope, no crash
[18:15] <sakrecoer> ok.. i have the same problem with ebook viewer...
[18:16] <eylul> *goes back to the live-cd*
[18:16] <eylul> -oh here we go
[18:16] <sakrecoer> also once installed...
[18:16] <eylul> ebook-viewer crashed. 
[18:16] <eylul> it just took a while
[18:16] <eylul> after I exited
[18:17] <eylul> can't replicate the calibre crash so far but who knows
[18:18] <sakrecoer> calibre runs fine, until i open inkscape or hydrogen... but on exit, it gives me a crash everysingle time...
[18:18] <sakrecoer> so i guess, it doesn't rn fine for me...
[18:18] <eylul> *blinks*
[18:18] <eylul> let me try replicating that
[18:18] <sakrecoer> nicowe: what is your experience with calibre and ebook viewer?
[18:18] <eylul> also.. I do want to try something else
[18:21] <eylul> umm sakrecoer: I just launched hydrogen on top of calibre
[18:21] <eylul> so far
[18:21] <nicowe> I have not tried them so far. I'm gonna do that right now 
[18:21] <eylul> no crash
[18:21] <nicowe> I'll be back in a few
[18:21] <sakrecoer> eylul: what happens if you close it now?
[18:21] <eylul> close calibre?
[18:22] <eylul> just closed calibre.
[18:22] <eylul> *patiently waits for a crash, it takes a while sometimes*
[18:22] <sakrecoer> and this is a virtual machine right?
[18:23] <eylul> nope. no crash
[18:23] <eylul> yeah
[18:23] <sakrecoer> last time i tried the live system on 3 different machines and it gave me the same result.
[18:23] <sakrecoer> beta1 that is
[18:23] <eylul> what did you test this on?
[18:23] <eylul> and get the crash?
[18:24] <sakrecoer> 2 different laptops and one stationary... 2 intel and one amd
[18:24] <sakrecoer> yes
[18:24] <sakrecoer> all of them
[18:25] <eylul> I do wonder if this is something that gets triggered with certain amount of memory or something
[18:25] <eylul> this is weird
[18:25] <eylul> *waits for nicowe's report*
[18:29] <sakrecoer> any luck nicowe ? :)
[18:31] <nicowe> I ran well but now I have an error 
[18:32] <nicowe> calibre-parallel crashed with SIGSEV in QObject::disconnect()
[18:32] <eylul> on exit right?
[18:33] <nicowe> yes
[18:34] <eylul> annnd I just crashed it without exiting. 
[18:35] <sakrecoer> nicowe: yupp thats the one..
[18:35] <sakrecoer> try ebook reader also if you can..
[18:36] <sakrecoer> it has a similar issue...
[18:36] <sakrecoer> bug #1621205
[18:37] <eylul> sakrecoer I am beginning to wonder if the crash with hydrogen is a coincidence
[18:37] <eylul> and that it was going to crash with or without it
[18:37] <sakrecoer> on beta 1 it reproduced 10/10..
[18:38] <sakrecoer> maybe though...
[18:38] <sakrecoer> maybe it was going to crash anyway...
[18:38] <eylul> exactly
[18:38] <eylul> because while I did crash calibre once or twice, kind of failed at doing so with hydrogen :)
[18:40] <nicowe> sakrecoer: yes I have the same error with ebook reader
[18:40] <sakrecoer> can you update your repport on the tracker nicowe, please? :)
[18:41] <sakrecoer> nicowe: are you seonserey? what do you use to login? i can't find your launchpad page...
[18:41] <nicowe> on the testcase post-installation ?
[18:41] <sakrecoer> to login to the iso tracker...
[18:41] <sakrecoer> yes, that one :)
[18:42] <nicowe> yes i am seonserey I changed the name but it did not update for some reason 
[18:42] <nicowe> I'll fill the testcase
[18:42] <sakrecoer> do you want me to add you to the ubuntustudio team, nicowe ? :)
[18:42] <sakrecoer> thanks!!
[18:42] <nicowe> yes please :)
[18:43] <sakrecoer> cool! :) when you are don, can you pass me your launchpad url?
[18:47] <nicowe> https://launchpad.net/~nicowe
[18:47] <nicowe> is that it ?
[18:49] <sakrecoer> nicowe: :) yes!
[18:50] <geirdal> hehe
[18:50] <nicowe> okay i've added the result
[18:51] <sakrecoer> hello geirdal :)
[18:51] <geirdal> hi sakrecoer 
[18:53] <eylul> hi geirdal
[18:54] <sakrecoer> geirdal: did you manage to geirdify that picture and make a hi-res version of the top picture?
[18:57] <eylul> this reminds me.. 
[18:58] <geirdal> eylul, hi
[18:58] <geirdal> Ima working on it sakrecoer 
[18:59] <geirdal> will finsh tomorrow
[18:59] <sakrecoer> awesome! :)
[18:59] <geirdal> :)
[19:02] <eylul> geirdal
[19:02] <eylul> may I add another to your queue of images? 
[19:02] <eylul> :)
[19:02] <geirdal> yes
[19:02] <eylul> http://ubuntustudio.azbulutlu.org/websiteImages/graphics2_1280.png this is an alternative image for graphics we would like to try
[19:03] <geirdal> ok
[19:03] <geirdal> will do that
[19:03] <eylul> awesome
[19:03] <eylul> thanks very much
[19:03] <geirdal> no thank you
[19:05] <eylul> also do you think you could upload the .kra files somewhere if you have them? that way we don't have to ping you for every tiny edit, and I think sakrecoer plans to have a repo for everything together (sakrecoer feel free to correct me if I misunderstood you earlier), which reminds me I also need to do that for the image we used on other pages. 
[19:07] <eylul> wb nicowe
[19:10] <sakrecoer> guys, what do you think about the ebook-viewer and the LRF viewer, shouldn't those be in "office" with calibre?
[19:11] <sakrecoer> instead of in graphics.. i'm reffering to the menu..
[19:13] <eylul> well either all of them should be in office, or all of them in graphics
[19:14] <eylul> but yeah
[19:14] <geirdal> office
[19:15] <sakrecoer> i agree "office" isn't the best word. but i think they should indeed all be in the same.
[19:15] <eylul> does it makes sense that scribus is in graphics while the rest of these programs are in office?
[19:16] <geirdal> scribus is office
[19:16] <nicowe> I would also put them both in office
[19:16] <sakrecoer> scribus is graphics design by all means.
[19:17] <sakrecoer> but yeah, its ambiguous
[19:17] <eylul> could be under both
[19:17] <eylul> (for scribus)
[19:18] <sakrecoer> i donÃÃ't quite agree... it's a layout program
[19:18] <eylul> well that is why we added calibre too, it does ebooks from scratch
[19:18] <sakrecoer> it is like saying adobe-indesign is an office application.
[19:18] <geirdal> and therfore a graphic software! right?
[19:19] <sakrecoer> geirdal: yes, scribus is made for printed graphic design.
[19:20] <sakrecoer> typsetting, it also happens to be able to produce books, so i see the ambiguity, but it is defenitly a graphic design application
[19:20] <eylul> eh...
[19:22] <eylul> there is.. a lot of discussion that can be made around this in terms of calibre, libreoffice, scribus etc.. but that is not something we should probably get into at this time :D
[19:22] <eylul> so lfr and ebook viewer into office categories makes sense :) 
[19:22] <sakrecoer> you can't compare scribus to calibre and libreoffice by any mean, but sure
[19:22] <geirdal> it does
[19:23] <eylul> *moves to offtopic to elaborate
[20:13] <sakrecoer> i put the mockupof the release wiki page up: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/Beta2/UbuntuStudio
[20:17] <eylul> sakrecoer: in main multimedia packages, we should probably add krita, especially since there is the known situation that it is an outdated package
[20:17] <eylul> also perhaps mention lmms as well. ;) *ducks the incoming object*
[20:18] <sakrecoer> what is there to mention? *ducks too in an empatetic reflex, unknowing of why*
[20:18] <eylul> heheh
[20:19] <eylul> well lmms is a major program too, just like gimp, and ardour. :) That's all
[20:20] <sakrecoer> true :
[20:20] <sakrecoer> :)
[20:20] <eylul> :)
[20:20] <sakrecoer> also, now in alphabetical (big up krytarik )
[20:21] <eylul> heh
[22:00] <sakrecoer> i'm gonna mark the iso ready and head to bed..
[22:01] <sakrecoer> we'll see tomorrow if there was a respin in the end or not...