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bluesabreflocculant, created a pad, added some notes here: http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-y-locker00:48
Unit193bluesabre: ...Think I can get a new -session upload done without getting yelled at? :P00:56
bluesabreUnit193, new stable?00:57
Unit193bluesabre: No, see -xfce?00:57
bluesabreaha00:57
Unit193I think it's good no matter what we do.00:58
bluesabreindeed00:58
bluesabreUnit193, I see no issue with it00:58
bluesabreUnit193, feel free to upload, it can certainly save us trouble down the line00:59
bluesabreand it'll have to go to -proposed anyway01:00
bluesabre:D01:00
Unit193Yeeeah, saw that bit.  Wondering if I can easily get my diff out of SVN.01:00
bluesabreflocculant, also started documenting file managers, http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-z-filemanager02:24
Unit193:(02:24
Unit193bluesabre: Wait, weren't we supposed to go through patches too?02:25
bluesabreUnit193, yeah, just started writing things up, we won't switch unless we have to02:25
Unit193Yes yes, I got that.  Just reminded me about that bit that I'd forgotten. :P02:26
bluesabre:)02:26
Unit193bluesabre: https://piratenpad.de/p/thunar-patches :P02:46
bluesabreUnit193, thanks for this02:50
Unit193Sure thing.  Figured you can make it more understandable/pretty if needed.  Or move it over too. :P02:50
bluesabreYeah, I'll start to review and add notes as I make progress02:51
bluesabre(though, probably not tonight)02:51
Unit193Yeeeah, several more potential fixes in there too. :/02:52
bluesabreat least it's not very difficult to reproduce02:54
flocculantbluesabre: thanks for both - I did start making some usability notes for files managers which I promptly lost - will do so again06:49
flocculantthough I do remember 'open terminal here' only worked with pcmanfm06:49
flocculantbluesabre: added a few notes to the locker pad 07:17
flocculantwe really don't have much time - don't know if you were aware of that :p07:17
flocculantnext week to decide I guess - so we're changed prior to RC 07:18
Unit193I presume you saw I uploaded -session?07:18
flocculantI read it twice I think :p07:23
Unit193Yey, so I don't have to tell you.07:23
flocculantnope :)07:24
flocculantUnit193: oh and thanks for the patches paste too :)07:26
Unit193That's a pad.07:28
flocculantoh yes07:29
flocculantsaid I was still waking up ... 07:30
Unit193But sure thing, doc.07:31
flocculant:)07:31
flocculantbbl07:32
bluesabreflocculant, little time indeed, hence all the writing and patching and whatnot :)09:15
flocculantbluesabre: :)11:05
bluesabrehey flocculant 16:18
flocculantgood lord16:19
bluesabreon lunch break, thought I'd see if you were around to discuss :)16:19
flocculantjust got in :)16:19
flocculantjust grab a cup of something hot - be 2 minutes16:19
bluesabrek16:19
flocculantbluesabre: ok - back :)16:20
bluesabrecool16:21
bluesabreso, light-locker16:21
flocculantI assume you're ok not releasing today/tomorrow16:21
bluesabreyeah, that's fine, or we can release with the stipulation that locking is broken and that 16.10 final may ship with a different locker16:22
bluesabreeither way is fine by me16:22
flocculantreally don't want to do that16:22
flocculantship that is16:22
bluesabreboat maybe?16:22
flocculantthis is a bit different than no mouse cursor 16:23
bluesabreyes16:23
flocculantha ha - more like a oil tanker :p16:23
bluesabrethis is productivity breaking16:23
bluesabre:D16:23
flocculantyea - socially not very good for us to do it either imo16:23
bluesabretrue16:23
flocculantI don't know if you can mark the bug as critical? 16:23
bluesabrethen yeah, let's skip beta and come to a decision on the locker by mid-next week16:24
bluesabreI'll check16:24
bluesabrenot in bug squad, but maybe16:24
flocculantif not once the chaff has settled on other flavours releasing I was going to ping infinity to get it changed if *we* had no-one who could16:24
flocculantwhich will also remind him of the issue :p16:24
flocculanthe might be able to get someone to look *shrug*16:25
bluesabreflocculant, this one, right? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker/+bug/162230316:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1622303 in light-locker (Ubuntu) "Fails to unlock/ resumes to black screen" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:25
flocculantyea16:25
flocculantI KNOW for sure I can't or it would be marked so :p16:25
bluesabremarked it critical16:25
flocculantawesome16:26
flocculantI'll ensure we've got critical tracker fails 16:26
bluesabregood deal16:26
flocculantso - yea - mid-week for a decision sounds right16:26
flocculantI'm leaning g-s tbh, it does at least look more like what we have now16:27
bluesabrecool, that's the one I've used for quite some time, can vouch for it :)16:27
flocculantwell I've certainly got it now :p16:27
bluesabreflocculant, what info/data should we collect for mid-next week?16:28
bluesabreI can draft up light-locker replacement docs16:28
flocculantthis is the trouble with desktops and me - I don't suspend, rarely lock so don't use it so miss fails on that type of thing16:28
bluesabre(should they be needed)16:28
bluesabreyeah16:28
flocculantwell as far as data goes - not sure - the important data is the bug as far as getting it changed I guess16:29
flocculantI can whack a critical test mail out to testers - purge l-l, install x and test quickly 16:29
bluesabreSubscribed cavalier so that he might be able to take a look at it as well16:29
flocculantcould even do a quick testcase on tracker (today/tomorrow) 16:30
bluesabregood idea16:30
bluesabrelunch break wrapping up now16:30
flocculantit could be 1 - purge l-l, install g-s check, purge g-s, autoremove, install x-s 16:31
bluesabrelet me know if there's anything you need from me and I'll get it together tonight16:31
bluesabresounds good to me16:31
bluesabreinclude:16:31
bluesabrekillall light-locker; gnome-screensaver; killall gnome-screensaver; xscreensaver, etc etc16:31
flocculantok16:32
bluesabresince they need to be active to respond to the lock command16:32
bluesabreIf you drop it in a pad, I can review it as well16:32
flocculantI'll do that soonish - paste link in here - you look at test tonight please :)16:32
bluesabrewill do16:32
bluesabregotta run, bbl16:32
flocculantok - thanks :)16:32
flocculanthave fun16:32
bluesabrethx16:32
jjfrv8flocculant, I won't be around tonight and possibly not tomorrow either but I just did a quick test16:37
jjfrv8purged l-l, installed g-s, checked - OK16:37
flocculantjjfrv8: thanks :)16:40
flocculantthere will be a testcase on package tracker turn up over the weekend once bluesabre and I have padded etc :)16:41
jjfrv8Ok, will try to do a more formal test then.16:42
jjfrv8Just did x-s after g-s and that's okay too.16:42
flocculantI think Sean will want tests on changing user too16:43
flocculantthanks for looking :)16:43
jjfrv8Sure. Good luck :)16:43
flocculant:)16:43
flocculantbluesabre: http://pad.ubuntu.com/lock-change17:12
flocculantknome: do we actually need to do an announcement? 17:41
flocculantgiven it'll say "Yaketty Final Beta" 'There isn't one' 17:41
Unit193Well you *can* do it like that, but only for the most basic tests.18:25
flocculantUnit193: if you're talking about the pad - then it's not locked or anything you can edit it 18:29
Unit193No, not opened it yet.18:46
flocculantokeydoke :p19:14
knomeflocculant, don't think it's critical19:23
flocculantme neither - just wanted to double check there :)19:24
flocculantwith it being the only time I can remember us not releasing something milestone time19:36
knomemhm19:36
flocculanton the other hand if people are that interested - trawl through irc logs roundabout release time or dev m/l ;)19:37
flocculantanyway - cool - just needed to be sure there 19:37
knomebluesabre, btw, you'll have all the council duties to yourself the whole weekend - i'll be leaving tomorrow afternoon UTC and returning on sunday evening23:15

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