[20:27] <LordDragon> hey all. so im installing and it gives me the option of enabling "MythTV Service" which talks about connecting to mythtv from remote machines
[20:28] <LordDragon> my question is, by remote, do they mean "via WAN/internet" ? or is that service also needed to connect locally over LAN ?
[20:37] <LordDragon> guess no one is around
[21:31] <Jay2k1> LordDragon: i'm not completely sure but i think LAN as well as WAN
[21:32] <Jay2k1> often this means should it listen on network interface or not
[21:33] <LordDragon> right. cuz i DO want to be able to access it via my home network, but i DONT want any servers exposed to the internet via my home IP address
[21:35] <Jay2k1> well, at least for IPv4 you're most probably behind NAT so without port forwarding the box isn't accessible from the internet anyway
[21:36] <Jay2k1> but i guess "remote machines" means "machines other than the local machine myth is running on"
[21:37] <LordDragon> hmm. so if i DONT enable the mythtv service, will i be able to access the backend from other computers on my LAN ?
[21:37] <Jay2k1> i'd say no
[21:37] <LordDragon> ok. ill enable it then
[21:37] <LordDragon> thanks
[21:38] <Jay2k1> i mean you'll be able to access mythweb and such
[21:38] <Jay2k1> but if you plan to have separate frontends for example, you'll need to turn that on
[21:38] <Jay2k1> that is my understanding
[21:38] <LordDragon> man. ive been using this ancient macmini as my backend/frontend
[21:38] <LordDragon> like a dvr
[21:39] <LordDragon> but its just slow and video stutters etc
[21:39] <LordDragon> i was looking into buying a NUC to do it instead
[21:39] <LordDragon> then i called cable company and asked how much for an extra DVR. they want another 20 bucks a month. screw that lol
[21:40] <LordDragon> the NUC would pay for itself in 10 months at that rate
[21:40] <Jay2k1> yeah. plus you probably can't fast forward on that etc
[21:40] <Jay2k1> and the UI is probably crap
[21:40] <LordDragon> i wish the keys made more sense in mythtv frontend though
[21:41] <LordDragon> enter key or spacebar in the guide should watch that channel live
[21:41] <Jay2k1> you can redefine keybindings
[21:41] <LordDragon> but it brings up a menu instead, and that menu doesnt even give you an option to watch live tv
[21:41] <LordDragon> yeah i tried figuring that out but its all convoluted and i didnt have much luck
[21:42] <Jay2k1> mine's a bit bigger http://s.jay2k1.com/k8O6.png
[21:43] <Jay2k1> i don't use a keyboard, just a remote
[21:45] <LordDragon> nice. i was looking into building a little mini ITX build computer or something. but its much cheaper to get a NUC. if i was gonna use it for other stuff, id go the PC route. but all it needs to do is record shows from my hdhomerun and play live tv on my 40 inch tv
[21:45] <LordDragon> and nuc should be powerful enough for that
[21:45] <Jay2k1> i guess
[21:45] <LordDragon> you guess?
[21:46] <Jay2k1> i have no idea ;)
[21:46] <Jay2k1> i've only ever used mythtv on that box
[21:47] <Jay2k1> the cpu was too slow for fullhd playback, but i put a passive 20 bucks nvidia gpu in it so i can use VDPAU
[21:47] <Jay2k1> i'm sure you'll find something when you google mythtv and nuc
[21:48] <LordDragon> i use OpenGL Slim mode on this macmini
[21:50] <LordDragon> whats the general rule of thumb for how much you can record on a given hdd?
[21:50] <Jay2k1> umm
[21:50] <Jay2k1> depends on the resolution
[21:51] <Jay2k1> so this is all SD via DVB-C http://s.jay2k1.com/m4tO.png
[21:52] <LordDragon> ok. for me it's mpeg2 HD at either 1080i or 720p
[21:52] <Jay2k1> here we have 720p http://s.jay2k1.com/7tPz.png
[21:52] <Jay2k1> "std" is hour if that's not clear
[21:55] <Jay2k1> i have a 3TB HDD inside the HTPC but if you just want to record some shows and then watch and delete them you won't need as much
[21:55] <LordDragon> looks roughly like 4gb per hour
[21:55] <Jay2k1> the first one was 5.4GB/h
[21:56] <Jay2k1> it depends
[21:56] <Jay2k1> things like compression of the stream, audio streams and such
[21:56] <LordDragon> i have a 250gb ssd. just wondering if that would be enough. a 1tb 2.5inch hdd is like 60 bucks
[21:58] <Jay2k1> you don't have to lose much
[21:59] <LordDragon> what do u mean?
[21:59] <Jay2k1> if you'll notice that it's always at its limit and you need more space, you can go usb drive, NAS, or just replace the SSD by something bigger
[21:59] <LordDragon> true
[21:59] <Jay2k1> by usb drive i mean external HDD btw
[21:59] <LordDragon> i could start out with the ssd and upgrade later if i can afford a bigger drive
[21:59] <Jay2k1> yes