[07:06] <diplo> Morning all
[08:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:41] <awilkins> popey, that "Box" thing... spectacularly dumb question, possibly. But how do you get the network cable in?
[08:43] <popey> awilkins: no clue, will tell you once it arrives :)
[08:43] <awilkins> £60 isn't bad for the bundle though
[08:44] <awilkins> Looking at the photo with it's top off there's room by the power cable to feed in a cable I think
[08:45] <awilkins> The next-gen 1TB My Passport drive (this is based on the previous generation... probably a good way to clear old stock...) is £57 at my local computronic retailer.
[08:46] <awilkins> So £60 for the drive in a niche case, power adapter, and microSD card is pretty good.
[08:46] <popey> yeah, that's what got me interested
[08:46] <popey> I have a spare pi I can chuck into it, and having played with nextcloud, I know that's something i want on it
[08:47] <awilkins> Shame they're not going to sell the case driveless :-)
[08:47] <popey> it looks 3d-printable
[08:47] <awilkins> Yeah, it ought to be...
[08:47] <popey> I mean, someone could make a derivative design
[08:47] <popey> it's only two parts
[08:47] <popey> with a couple of magnets and screw threads
[08:47] <foobarry> epic day yesterday. got to visit force india f1 team HQ at silverstone
[08:47] <popey> I'd be happy to measure mine so someone could design it
[08:47] <popey> wow
[08:47] <popey> bet that was fun
[08:48] <foobarry> behind the scenes tour of workshops and simulator etc
[08:48] <foobarry> childhood dream realised
[08:48] <popey> my father in law would love that
[08:48] <popey> he's well into F1
[08:48] <popey> how did you arrange that?
[08:51] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:04] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Friday, and happy Hug A Vegetarian Day! 😃
[09:05] <zmoylan-pi> and use the opportunity to slip some beef jerky in their pocket? :-P
[09:22] <foobarry> popey: we are a customer of Univa who make the HPC scheduler software. they sponsor force india and have a sepcial partnership with them. so a kind of exclusive perk really
[09:22] <foobarry> got hands on with a car and played with steering wheel etc
[09:37] <davmor2> JamesTait: I love vegetarians they make the best meat, beef, lamb, chicken, turkey. I'd say pork and goat too but they are both omnivores
[09:38] <davmor2> :D
[09:40] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mvs5lWx2uQ
[09:45] <popey> foobarry: buttons galore?
[09:46] <foobarry> even have a mario kart mushroom button
[09:46] <foobarry> to overtake
[09:47] <foobarry> steering wheel costs £40k alone. looked quite low tech in a way as it is designed but tactile and visual clarity , not brushed aluminim and tiny leds
[09:57] <popey> it's amazing how much money they get to spend on making super fast toys
[09:58] <foobarry> the simulator was like imax cinema
[09:58] <foobarry> wasn't turned on though
[10:01] <davmor2> popey: and just think what they do with that tech, they go and put it in lorries and then eventually it trickles down to cars
[10:16] <Laney> arse
[10:16] <Laney> missed my appointment to donate blood
[10:17] <foobarry> leave it in a jar outside?
[10:18] <Laney> i'll just go to QMC and do a direct person to person donation
[10:19] <popey> I used to love giving blood. Free biscuits and tea!
[10:27] <Laney> they have those tuc cheese biscuits
[10:27] <Laney> yuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[10:30] <davmor2> Laney: you know you can buy them they have them in stores and everything ;)
[10:31]  * zmoylan-pi wonders if the amount of blood donated in ireland dropped when they stopped offering a pint of guinness
[10:31] <foobarry> maybe yes but the quality have have improved
[10:32] <zmoylan-pi> i dunno, problably blood offered now has less iron...
[10:32] <zmoylan-pi> easier to ship when you can pick it up with a magnet :-)
[11:00] <awilkins> The dark colour in Guinness isn't iron afaik
[11:00] <awilkins> It's burned malt
[11:00] <foobarry> marmite
[11:00] <awilkins> All beer has traces of Marmite
[11:43] <foobarry> first venture into sainsburys since the meal deal fiasco ends in the most disappointing lunch in ages
[11:44] <foobarry> they changed supplier. afwul tasteless munge
[12:45] <foobarry> nougat is bootlooping on my touchpad :(
[12:55] <diddledan> gotta love a good nuggit
[12:56] <foobarry> ah this could be the low battery problem
[12:56] <foobarry> bootloops on low batt
[12:56] <foobarry> nobody in the office has a real charger
[12:56] <foobarry> :(
[13:07] <awilkins> Bah, Steam on Linux listed 2 VR apps as working
[13:08] <awilkins> Plugged in Vive. Steam asks me if I want to install VR. Get all excited. Doesn't work.
[13:08] <diddledan> grr
[13:33] <awilkins> IKEv1 VPN on Ubuntu - *arrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhh*
[13:34] <awilkins> Ubuntu deprecates OpenSwan and moves to StrongSwan. Hooray. More security, better VPN client. ONLY... i) their NetworkManager GUI has been broken on Xenial for 5 months
[13:34] <awilkins> ii) It doesn't support IKEv1 *on purpose* even though the daemon supports it, because "IKEv1 isn't very secure" or words to that effect.
[13:35] <awilkins> I applaud the attention to detail in improving security
[13:36] <awilkins> I lament the impossibility of connecting to my work VPN without writing a huge config file and disabling or fighting with NetworkManager.
[13:36] <awilkins> (or option 3 - use ike-qtgui / ShrewSoft VPN Client which is at least easy to set up, even if it fights with NetworkManager if you let it)
[18:51] <piotrbujakowski> Hi.
[19:42] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[20:04] <diddledan> https://youtu.be/TsE-Dqok5mY <-- my dad looks far too much like Kenny Everett
[20:07] <zmoylan-pi>  /me is afraid to click on the link in case it's a cupid stunt...
[20:12] <diddledan> I don't know what a cupid stunt is so I guess it's not one of those
[20:13] <zmoylan-pi> don't worry it's all in the best possible taste... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O881zyKgBBw
[20:19] <diddledan> :-)
[20:21] <zmoylan-pi> and if not... we can round them all up, put them in a field, and bomb the... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGMWZJlA0QA
[20:37] <foobarry> finally nougat running!
[20:37] <foobarry> and...its pretty much same old android
[20:37] <zmoylan-pi> then why upgrade?
[20:38] <foobarry> i had an old tablet needing a refresh
[20:38] <foobarry> speed is quite good
[20:39] <foobarry> but no discernable features
[20:46] <diddledan> foobarry: you can split screen multiple apps - in portrait mode one app above the other and in landscape mode side-by-side
[20:47] <diddledan> foobarry: to do that you hold-down the square icon on the right of the home button
[20:57] <diddledan> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/4l51HGG1/Screenshot_20160923-215702.png
[20:57] <diddledan> like that
[22:08] <zmoylan-pi> well... this is why i have at least 2 devices on me at all times... :-)
[22:09] <zmoylan-pi> so i could be accessing data on one device while working on a document on the other...