=== bazhang__ is now known as bazhang === skylite_ is now known as skylite === dancingdemon__ is now known as dancingdemon === dancingdemon is now known as dancingd3mon === dancingd3mon is now known as dancingdemon === dancingdemon is now known as wvrbro [00:15] ing [00:15] .ping === txeru is now known as sikun === singalaut is now known as Guest9666 [00:26] I have a project on my host that I sync into my VMs. I’m unable to `make` the project unless I copy all the files into my VM. My host is Mac OS X, guest is Ubuntu 16.04. Any ideas why? [00:36] so they lied to us about the holocaust while told us nothing of the firebombing they deliberately inflicted on German civilians? And we defend this trash? [00:36] so they lied to us about the holocaust while told us nothing of the firebombing they deliberately inflicted on German civilians? And we defend this trash? === ranpyuser is now known as TimeGiver [00:44] so [00:44] hows everyone goin [00:44] doing ubuntu support PotatoBoi [00:44] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkQ6J5F01Do [00:45] did you want a chat channel PotatoBoi [00:45] bahzang nope [00:48] where can I download krustykrab [00:48] can anyone tell me if (and if yes, what) there is a way to request newer version(s) for a package in lts? my case 16.04 [00:48] u0m3: generally versions aren't bumped [00:48] u0m3: what package and why do you think the version should go up? [00:48] teenis, there is not such a thing, stay on topic here [00:48] !latest | u0m3: may also be good to be aware of: [00:48] u0m3: may also be good to be aware of:: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [00:49] okay bazhang but my friend told me I can download krustykrab game with aptitude [00:49] !info krustykrab [00:49] Package krustykrab does not exist in xenial [00:49] no such thing teenis [00:50] but every time I try to apt install krustrykrab it just says its not found [00:50] E: Unable to locate package krustykrab [00:50] ah okay so krustykrab isnt real? [00:50] no [00:50] nacc, ok, good poit about stability ... needed numpy but I will research a way to compile it without clobbering apt version [00:51] nacc, s/poit/point/ [00:52] u0m3: 1.11.1-rc1 is in 16.10 right now [00:52] which is also the most current in debian, it seems [00:52] u0m3: given it's justa dotrelease, so presumably only bugfixes, you could request an SRU [00:53] u0m3: what version are you looking for? [00:53] nacc, hmm, must have been a delay in mirrors then... [00:54] !info python-numpy yakkety [00:54] python-numpy (source: python-numpy): Numerical Python adds a fast array facility to the Python language. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.11.1~rc1-1ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 1744 kB, installed size 9486 kB [00:54] !info python-numpy xenial [00:54] python-numpy (source: python-numpy): Numerical Python adds a fast array facility to the Python language. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.11.0-1ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 1748 kB, installed size 9383 kB [00:54] u0m3: --^ [00:55] nacc, uu nice, thanks for the bot command [00:56] u0m3: np, gl! [00:56] I really with polari would get nickserv support already... [00:56] nacc, thank you very much again [01:00] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me_kDNrbJls&spfreload=5 "In Search of a Cure" [01:00] Health, medicine, environment, diseases, cures, martyrs and solutions. [01:11] any pandora users in here? [01:11] (pithos, piano bar) [01:11] i use pithos [01:12] snowkidind, whats up? [01:12] i have this dilemma === Dartellum1 is now known as Dartellum [01:12] i want pandora overseas [01:12] and i am dreaming that there has to be a way to catch the stream and redirect it [01:13] (pandora doesn't make it to my other country) [01:13] i think it would be a good tool [01:13] sort of like a pandora wrapper [01:13] from your phone or from your computer? [01:13] from a server running ubuntu [01:14] forwarded to any device elsewhere [01:14] snowkidind, http://globalpandora.com/ [01:15] oh good [01:15] . [01:15] do you have an iphone that you want to listen to pandora on? [01:15] i listen on several devices overseas [01:15] Brazil [01:15] iphone, ipad, laptop [01:15] thailand [01:16] snowkidind, http://www.callingallgeeks.org/how-to-listen-to-pandora-radio-on-iphone-outside-us/ [01:16] i guess you are using google, searching for what? my search strings weren't yielding this [01:18] thats interesting. I have been using a terminal app called pianobar [01:18] hello all. i added a repo so i can install php5.6, however now that repo has updates for php7, which i do not want. i want php7 to stay on the 'official'. is there a way to choose which repo per php version? [01:19] define "repo" in this embodiement [01:19] snowkidind: for example, i want to pull php7 from this one deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main restricted [01:19] anyway, thanks glitchd [01:20] snowkidind, hope it helped somehow [01:20] !pinning [01:20] pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto [01:20] ok well [01:20] well at least i know there is a valid solution out there, although its impossible to test here in the states [01:21] i did 'add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php' in order to be able to install php5.6, however now there are 22 updates for php7 which were not htere before [01:29] SpudDogg: yes, becuse ondrej also packages php7 [01:29] SpudDogg: you will need to pin your php7.0* from the normal archive [01:29] SpudDogg: although, that may break php-* as provided by ondrej, unsure [01:29] nacc: ya thats what im looking at now [01:29] thanks [01:38] test [01:54] it works [02:04] hi guys i have a macbook 4,1 early 2008 and i put lubuntu on a usb and it keeps booting to a minimal grub window. anything i can do to fix it? [02:06] Hi! [02:07] I'm currently trying to fix someone's mail server and it's having quite a strange issue. The server is using dovecot and for some reason incoming mail is going to /var/mail/%n, instead of /home/mail/%n, after a lot of attempts at changing various things over and over to make them point to mail to the /home path [02:07] Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS [02:07] help [02:08] oups [02:08] hello there [02:08] ? [02:08] I wrote help here [02:13] WHen using the split -l command to split a text file, does it omit lines beginning with special characters? === Trystam is now known as Tristam [02:19] NM answered my own question. [02:24] Goz_ ? [02:24] yep ? [02:25] glitchd sup ? [02:25] Goz_, what do yo u need help with?? [02:25] oh no nvm, didn't wanted to write it here [02:25] x) [02:25] lol ok [02:26] thx btw glitchd [02:26] Goz_, np === MORPHi is now known as JEWBANKER [02:29] hi [02:30] jacob_, hey [02:30] jacob_, whats up? [02:34] jacob_, hello? [02:34] I can't find netboot for 15.10. [02:35] Morning/Evening all! [02:36] Discussion: What’s everyone’s favorite tactic to monitor system updates & vulnerabilites within their stack? [02:36] https://www.facebook.com/IWillBeCTO [02:36] Their stack? [02:37] philo, looks like it doesnt exist.. [02:37] philo, , eol, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/ [02:37] use 14.04 or 16.04 [02:37] glitchd, OerHeks I found it here, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ [02:38] i hope the installer works, guess not as 15.10 is EOL [02:39] OerHeks, I'd use an LTS, but the software was written on 15.10, and so ... they want to stick with that version [02:39] I'm currently trying to fix someone's mail server and it's having quite a strange issue. The server is using dovecot and for some reason incoming mail is going to /var/mail/%n, instead of /home/mail/%n, after a lot of attempts at changing various things over and over to make them point to mail to the /home path [02:39] Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS [02:53] anyone here? [02:55] :-) [02:59] Add me, solve this, and Ill give you some BTC https://www.facebook.com/IWillBeCTO [03:00] TyrelllWelllick, please don't spam, thanks. [03:08] hi [03:08] I need hel p [03:08] help [03:08] can somebody teach me [03:08] how to install bettercap in backbox [03:08] ? [03:09] !backbox | naga007 [03:09] naga007: Backbox Linux is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu and is thus not supported in #ubuntu. Please use #backbox on irc.autistici.org or https://forum.backbox.org/ for help with it. [03:10] hi [03:10] Hello [03:10] howre you? [03:11] I'm good how are you? [03:12] What are we discussing here [03:12] time to read the topic [03:13] hp: Discussion about ubuntu is in #ubuntu-discuss, this channel is active operating system sypport :) [03:20] Hi [03:20] I've a little and stupid question, How i move up n' down in Ubuntu console? (tty) [03:24] shift pageup pagedwn [03:24] !details | Sir_Andrei The answer may not be as simple as the question : [03:24] Sir_Andrei The answer may not be as simple as the question :: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. === cconstantine_ is now known as cconstantine [03:27] .udp 192.168.10.1 1000 4096 100 [03:28] ? [03:30] I'm currently trying to fix someone's mail server and it's having quite a strange issue. The server is using dovecot and for some reason incoming mail is going to /var/mail/%n, instead of /home/mail/%n, after a lot of attempts at changing various things over and over to make them point to mail to the /home path [03:30] Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS [03:31] php, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server too [03:32] running a service with data from a /home/ folder is rare. [03:33] .join #665 [03:34] what is the best way to migrate an ubuntu installation to a smaller ssd [03:35] ahhh [03:37] sabotagebeats: "best" is subjective . I prefer to back up my data, and do a clean fresh install and start all over fresh . [03:37] thanks Bashing-om [03:38] Well, hmm, i wanna the keystroke to navigate up and down in console [03:38] what about do distro upgrade [03:38] ? [03:38] Im using Ubuntu 16.04.1 [03:38] or what about ghosting it [03:39] #ubuntu-cn [03:39] sabotagebeats: mind ya, there is no good reason to backup system files . If ya fresh install one does not carry past baggage . === xubuntu is now known as Guest19870 [03:39] thanks Bashing-om [03:40] Hmm OerHeks, ur right, thx! [03:40] shift pageup pagedwn is limited .. [03:40] OerHeks: I have a notebook keyboard, and the keystroke is little more complicated (i've to use fn), but, well, i solved it C: [03:40] limited? [03:41] limited to a few pages i believe [03:42] Oh :( === zel is now known as Guest37090 === Guest15996 is now known as bigking [04:06] hello [04:07] Mojo144: hello [04:07] hello [04:08] Hi [04:12] j linux [04:12] oops [04:18] meow [04:20] IVA [04:22] 2% of the people believe the old media right now. It's just amazing how quickly the old media is dying because they just can't be trusted. That's one thing about this monopoly they've created: is that everyone's seeing through it, recognizing it as propaganda. === MorrisIVA is now known as [Troll911] [04:27] !ot | [Troll911] [04:27] [Troll911]: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! === [Troll911] is now known as Bentoi === Bentoi is now known as [RadioLatino] [04:47] I just did: sudo apt install python3-venv -y but I can't find how I can call the create env command? === Liz is now known as Guest6805 [05:00] adamsilver: looks like the binary in that package is `pyvenv` [05:01] Flannel: thanks === ubuntu is now known as Guest25272 [05:21] Anyone know why ifup is only bringing up one of the two in my /etc/network/interfaces ? [05:22] It seems to be whichever one comes first. I can manually add the static ip and routes using ip [05:22] http://sprunge.us/aRKR [05:31] hi [05:32] 111111111111111111111111111 [05:32] hello moti [05:32] whats going on [05:32] leave this chat this useless [05:33] any helgp [05:33] help [05:33] 2sure [05:33] hfor what [05:33] ?prussian >> [05:33] ? [05:34] what is this all about [05:34] ? [05:34] idk [05:34] then why ar e you hair [05:34] ? [05:34] here [05:34] zzzzzz [05:34] :D [05:34] bye [05:34] I have a problem with a Ubuntu server and I'm not sure why only one of my static ip's starts up after reboot [05:34] ok [05:36] Hi gents, I just upgrade to ubuntu xenial (x64) and I'm trying to upgrade nginx , I've already re-added it to my sources.list, but when I try to update it, it tells me 'Warning, the following packages cannot be authenticated: nginx', I'm following these instructions http://nginx.org/en/linux_packages.html [05:36] I've downloaded the signing key and done the apt-key add nginx_signing.key stuff [05:36] but it still complains, any help would be appreciated. I'll be here for an hour or so, then I need to crash. [05:37] https://www.nginx.com/resources/wiki/start/topics/tutorials/install/ is the instructions I'm following [05:37] http://pastebin.com/6BetJaCy is the error/s I'm getting [05:37] (I've also asked this in the nginx channel, but no one's replied) [05:38] dxc: likely you will get a more accurate answer there tho [05:38] seeing as it is not official ubuntu packaging [05:39] mm [05:39] I had the exact same issue on another server (same scenario, it commmented out the lines when I upgraded to xenial), I only noticed today when I was poking at the problem on my other server, I uncommented the lines, updated, and it worked fine [05:40] ¯\(º_o)/¯ [05:41] have you tried a ppa instead? [05:43] no, I haven't [05:43] I have it installed, I just wanted to update it, it works as-is, and I didn't set it up [05:43] so I'm leery of monkeying around with it [05:43] (Friend of mine set it up, and he's MIA) [05:48] prussian - gonna try ti, I guess. [05:48] let's see. [05:48] you can try http://nginx.org/keys/nginx_signing.key [05:48] .... [05:49] my baad [05:49] curl http://nginx.org/keys/nginx_signing.key | apt-key add - [05:49] maybe wget isn't doing what it's suppose to -_- [05:49] idk [05:49] maybe [05:49] h/o [05:49] it sounds like the package isn't signed right otherwise [05:49] and that's on nginx [05:50] hi [05:50] hi [05:52] I'm trying to install this usb wifi card https://www.sabrent.com/product/NT-WLAC/hi-gain-ac600-dual-band-wi-fi-usb-mini-adapter-5dbi-antenna-ieee-802-11-abgnac-wps-easy-connection/#&gid=1&pid=1 but can't find any drivers for it [05:52] Can anyone help me get this thing running? It's driving me crazy [05:52] :p [05:53] amazoniantoad: what does lsusb say about it? [05:53] amazoniantoad, have you identified the chipset and tried wpa supplicant. sometimes you can use win drivers too if thats possibly wpa supplicant [05:53] Triffid_Hunter: let me check [05:53] cantoo: I don't know what that means, sorry [05:53] if its broadcom there may be a package that'll support the firmware [05:54] if it's broadcom just return it -_- [05:54] not worth it [05:54] what chipset does this wifi device have (and just the basic model) in google. [05:54] Triffid_Hunter: Meditek inc [05:54] So it's definitely being "seen" [05:54] getting cryptic kernel messages about scan errors sporadically sucks [05:54] if its broadcom it could work [05:54] cantoo: let me check [05:54] amazoniantoad: what's the vid/pid? need those to determine appropriate driver [05:55] amazoniantoad: run "lsusb" in a terminal [05:55] Triffid_Hunter: Bus 001 Device 004 === clowx is now known as orianbsilva [05:55] amazoniantoad: that's where it's plugged in, not the vid/pid [05:55] hateball: look at my responses to Triffid_Hunter. Already did that [05:55] Triffid_Hunter: oh, sorry. How do I get the pid? [05:55] amazoniantoad: it's the xxxx:xxxx that is interesting [05:56] it should show when you run lsusb [05:56] amazoniantoad: perhaps you could show us all of what it says instead of pasting random useless bits of the output? [05:56] Triffid_Hunter: good idea. [05:56] http://pastebin.com/FH76KEuY [05:56] Triffid_Hunter: ^ [05:57] amazoniantoad, i found this for ya. there could be more ways of getting it to work on linux https://www.sabrent.com/download/nt-wlac-linux-drivers/ [05:57] cantoo: thanks. Sorry I couldn't find the chipset [05:58] i couldn't either. its bound to be somewhere [05:58] Triffid_Hunter, you ain't ever been a new user ? [05:59] amazoniantoad: I see drivers for mediatek in my kernel but not that specific chipset, perhaps it's new? [05:59] Triffid_Hunter: I bought it at walmart 8 months ago... lol. Just dug it out of the closet [06:00] amazoniantoad: closest is linux/drivers/net/wireless/mediatek/mt7601u/usb.c:25: { USB_DEVICE(0x0e8d, 0x760b) }, - oh wait this is 4.3.4, let me check a more recent one [06:00] Triffid_Hunter: thanks [06:00] amazoniantoad, which ubuntu you using ? [06:01] Idk. my friend is letting me use it to learn terminal [06:01] cantoo: remoting into it [06:01] amazoniantoad, if you have to use their drivers you might have to switch to one that supports their drivers [06:01] D: [06:01] thats kewl. some time you'll need something like 16.04 or 14.04 or even 14.10 or something like that [06:02] possibly [06:03] prussian - I did it via PPA, which worked [06:03] amazoniantoad: 4.4.6 isn't any more interesting unfortunately, might be able to patch the kernel to make the mt7601u driver recognise it but sounds like that's a bit over your head at the moment [06:03] Triffid_Hunter: very much so :/ [06:03] Thanks anyway [06:04] amazoniantoad: may just have to grab the drivers from the mediatek site and hope for the best [06:05] dxc: gr8 [06:05] ya, adding stuff to your sources.list is so debian [06:05] hi [06:05] lol. [06:05] Hi! [06:05] and bye ;) [06:05] time for bed. [06:05] gn [06:08] cantoo: should I try to install this driver that you linked me to? === afro_ is now known as bedfro [06:15] Hi all, I'm getting this error in ubuntu 14.04 console while trying to connect to DB PG::ConnectionBad: FATAL: could not open relation mapping file "global/pg_filenode.map": No such file or directory [06:17] amazoniantoad, its not always easy. you might need some help. [06:18] cantoo: Yeah I just tried to run make and I already got an error [06:19] cantoo: make[1]: *** /lib/modules/3.14.65-61/build: No such file or directory. Stop. [06:19] sometimes you have to install kernel sources and kernel headers and build-essential. but they key is -- does their driver match your kernel. try and get help, someone should assist you if you've never done it yourself [06:19] i can't do it. i'm all thumbs. [06:19] okay. thanks [06:19] hey there :-) @all that run ubuntu on ec2. Since this morning apt-get update fails on all of my machines on aws. W: Failed to fetch http://eu-central-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-backports/multiverse/source/Sources 503 Service Unavailable [06:20] global issue? Where to report? [06:20] if they don't help. try and find someone nice. shame them. we're all here not for selfishness all the time but for each other [06:21] cantoo: WHY WONT YOU HELP? YOU ARE BAD AND SHOULD FEEL BAD [06:21] like that? === Guest87677 is now known as JStoker [06:22] i'm all thumbs amazoniantoad. thats thats uncool. you have to use tact in shaming like i seen 30 people helped and not me (and don't use shame). furthermore offer to help others. its kewl [06:23] cantoo: Are you thirsty? May I offer you a drink? [06:25] dertyp: #ubuntu-mirrors [06:25] hateball: thanks [06:25] ??? [06:26] cantoo: whats up? === plat is now known as Guest26983 [06:30] hi guys, how to speed up my fresh install with LAMP of Ubuntu 16.04? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23218963/ [06:33] Israel by their own admission has at minimum 700 nukes. Their Samson option states that if they can’t have earth as their own they will make sure no one else gets it and have nukes aimed at earth’s 700 biggest cities. [06:34] pinklesbian: Does Israel run Ubuntu? === pinklesbian is now known as mauvelesbian [06:34] amazoniantoad: all nukes has ubuntu installed [06:34] l9: I hope so [06:35] offcourse they do how else do you think they hit their targets ? [06:35] l9: I would hate if a country tried to use one and a "Windows Update" occured in the middle of it [06:35] Might be a dud [06:36] mauvelesbian: scary thought it is [06:36] havent been in a chatroom in years. [06:36] "Would you like to apply the update in [5] [20] or [40] minutes? [06:36] cool welcome back derf_ [06:36] "Where the hell is the ignore button?!" [06:36] derf_: It's horrid. Leave now [06:36] It stinks in here [06:36] cant need help [06:37] derf_: Go see a doctor [06:37] amazoniantoad: please... [06:37] just went mint and cant fix overscan [06:37] l9: sorry lol === derf_ is now known as newnickname [06:38] derf_ catalyst? [06:38] no its non proprietary [06:38] ahh === newnickname is now known as derf_ [06:43] any help?! [06:47] that true about israel having 700 nukes aimed at us if we don't do their bidding? [06:48] parisiankiss, don't cause panic. everythings different now. israel is not a threat to any good country. in face, rock in roll happens :D [06:48] politics isn't on-topic for this channel. [06:49] its been a reoccuring topic tonight. if your paniced it doesn't help much to do a investigation [06:49] and uncool [06:49] guess most of us are pretty-mind controlled by the authorities. [06:51] its very important you get that straightened out === me is now known as Guest14339 === capri is now known as zz_capri === zz_capri is now known as capri [07:13] hi ubuntu how r u all tonight [07:13] anybody here from beijing? [07:16] i love win-win situations, don't you? === capri is now known as zz_capri [07:20] omp_: ? === Liz is now known as Guest98949 [07:30] how to do I reinstall my graphics drivers? === Guest1331 is now known as troy_cambridge [07:41] how to do I reinstall my graphics drivers? [07:44] how to install lamp for 16 [07:46] Cannot find any schedule when ubuntu 16.04.2 will be available. [07:46] In new Unity (7.5) fixed the problem with sleep mode on my laptop (go to sleep when LID closed), because now it is not works. [07:47] Kinder-Pingvi: when 16.10 is released [07:47] Also I didn't find any information about how to upgrade my Unity 7.4 to 7.5... [07:47] oh... right. So 16.10 and point 16.04.2 will be realized in the same time? [07:48] Kinder-Pingvi: maybe not the same day, but 16.04.02 will be based on packages released with 16.10 [07:49] Kinder-Pingvi: 16.04.3 will be based on 17.04 and so on. [07:49] only the lts enablement stack [07:49] not overall packages [07:49] yes, i should have been clearer on that. [07:49] ducasse, thanks for response. And small question about packages base. Is it will be different between 16.10 and 16.04.2? As I know from previous distributives, LTS version always has older packages than new realized distribution [07:50] Kinder-Pingvi: only x and kernel will be updated. [07:51] I'm a archlinux user a long time. But now I want to use ubuntu and I like it. And small noob's question about external repositories. As I understand, the PPA is something like AUR in arch. Where I can find some site (link) for search packages on all available PPAs and add needed PPA to my PPA collection on my ubuntu? [07:53] Kinder-Pingvi: for launchpad ppas, try ppa.launchpad.net [07:53] Kinder-Pingvi: it's really not like AUR [07:53] Kinder-Pingvi: it's just another set of repos with zero control/governance on [07:53] !ppa | Kinder-Pingvi [07:53] Kinder-Pingvi: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [07:55] As I understood I can put there my package, create my ppa and another ubuntu users can add my PPA and install my software, right? [07:55] thats right [07:55] Yup [07:55] it's just another dpkg based repo with zero governance [07:57] Kinder-Pingvi: you can host a third party repo anywhere, though, it doesn't have to be launchpad. [07:57] great! What about external dependencies? If my software doesn't have needed dependencies in official ubuntu's repository, can I put this packages to my PPA near with my software and mark it as dependencies to my main package, right? [07:58] Ducasse cook me some eggs! [07:58] anonV: ? [07:58] anonV: eggs in the shape of ubuntu logo [07:58] Sure! [07:59] ducasse, sorry for my noob's questions :) I want to understand too quickly how it all works.. [07:59] ducasse: Dont you know Alain Ducasse? [07:59] Good morning :) [07:59] anonV: nope, that's not where i got it from. === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [08:00] ducasse: ok! still want those eggs hehe [08:00] I'm trying to install Gtk#, or rather I believe I already have installed it, however when I try to build and run either a C# or an F# script it tells me that it doesn't recognize Gtk, what could obvious errors I'm doing be? [08:04] hei [08:04] hei [08:04] grande zio [08:04] he [08:06] hei hei [08:07] someuone can hel me ?? [08:07] negro [08:07] !help | Voltagirls [08:07] Voltagirls: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [08:07] and small question about nightly builds of 16.10. In I understood, thats builds updates every day (night:)). If I'll install 16.10, could I update with apt-get dist-upgrade to obtain "every day changes"? [08:07] Kinder-Pingvi: yes. also support is in #ubuntu+1 [08:08] Porco dioooo [08:08] Porco dioooo [08:08] Porco dioooo [08:08] Porco dioooo [08:08] Porco dioooo [08:08] Thanks everyone for help and answers! [08:15] hi do you have any idea, what to do (if there is a 2 minute solution) if kodi isn't starting just a login screen after installing this http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/xbmc/releases/kodibuntu/kodibuntu-14.0~helix_amd64.iso and doing apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -y && reboot ? [08:25] hi all, [08:28] When I installed 16.04 with the skylake CPU there were some issues with the GPU handling and I 'upgraded' to the 4.6 kernel series which provided dual head support. Is it advisable to stay with the 4.6 series, or, try the 4.4 series and hope that the issues have been resolved? [08:29] I'm having intermittent GUI failures when unplugging 2nd monitor and my laptop is usable, but not stable. [08:29] how can I prevent SSH from generating hashs for the hostnames inside of known_hosts instead of simply using the fqdn? [08:35] BUG BAGA BUG BUG. Ubuntu 16.04 LTS when Appearance > Behavior > Reveal location ( Top Left Corner ) is set the launcher never get reveal [08:38] jesk: hashes? never seen that, my known_hosts just has fqdn,ipaddr, key type and host key [08:38] that doesnt seem to be the default any more [08:39] ??? grep -i hash /etc/ssh/ssh_config [08:39] HashKnownHosts yes [08:40] Ubuntu 16 - not working in Intel Stick [08:41] hello everyone [08:41] can any one help me with my problem [08:41] actually i am new to ubutnu [08:42] and i have recently installed the ubuntu on my laptop and after installing this my wifi has stopped working [08:43] @ [08:43] isn't there some wi-fi icon visible? [08:44] @ acosonic yes [08:44] @acosonic no wifi icon available [08:45] @acosonic but i am able to connect through lan cable [08:48] you are probably missing drivers for your wi-fi, try looking for them online and looking for some tutorial how to install them... [08:48] Hi could someone update jackd2 on the repositories because MusE is not connecting to jackd2, but it will connect if jackd2 is updated. [08:49] @acosonic i have installed the driver from ubuntu software centere, still i am not able to find and any sign of wifi [08:50] truedetective_, what wifi card do you have? [08:51] @glitchd how do i check [08:51] truedetective_, first, is it a usb plugin adapter, or is it in the computer itself? [08:52] truedetective_, what kind of computer/laptop do you have? [08:53] @glitchd i ran a script that produced some file. take a look at it : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23218857/ [08:54] truedetective_, Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 [08:54] @glitchd ok [08:54] truedetective_, what version of ubuntu are you in, is it 32 or 64 bit [08:54] @glitchd 64 bit [08:55] @glitchd 16.04 LTS 64 bit [08:55] truedetective_, have you attempted to install any restricted drivers? [08:55] @glitchd not that i know [08:55] truedetective_, what desktop are you on? unity? [08:56] @glitchd sorry. but how do i know. as i mentioned i new to ubuntu [08:57] /bb|[^b]{2}/ ? [08:57] /b[!222 !!|qq}1{ ? [08:58] truedetective_, 1 second pls [08:58] @glitchd no problem [08:59] truedetective_, ok this is directly from askubuntu.com. sudo apt-get update [08:59] sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source [09:00] then, sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [09:01] @glitchd ok i am going to it, then let u know [09:01] after opening that file in the text editor, add these three lines to the end of the file, save and exit the text editor. [09:01] blacklist b43 [09:01] blacklist bcma [09:01] blacklist ssb [09:02] Am I in the wrong channel to suggest a jackd2 update? [09:03] b-!hæ<ÍèÞ;3Ç I®÷??ì¢ÎR8û´Ðmð¬ ?´a{»I'W ? [09:03] Jagger: you mean to a newer version? [09:03] @glitchd when i ran this command "sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source" it show me "bcmwl-kernel-source is already the newest version (6.30.223.248+bdcom-0ubuntu8). The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required: xserver-xorg-legacy" [09:04] Normally if I'm in "Files" and I want to open a terminal, I right click on a "blank area" and select "Open in Terminal". How can I do this if the folder is so full of tiles that there is no "blank space"? [09:04] truedetective_, sudo apt-get autoremove [09:04] will cpu overheat in vacuum ? [09:04] JustinHitla: stop that nonsense in here. last warning [09:04] why it was called "Bell Telephone Laboratories" and not "Bell Phone Laboratories" ? [09:04] you can't catch me [09:04] truedetective_, open a terminal and issue ifconfig and paste the output for me to see [09:05] thx k1l [09:06] Yes to a newer version that will make MusE be able to connect to jackd2 Every other app is working except for Muse. Some guys solved it by compiling jackd2 from git [09:06] truedetective_, paste the output here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ [09:06] I would rather wait until it is updated on the repositories [09:06] truedetective_, then give me the link [09:07] Jagger: the only way is to file a bug and ask for a sru (stable release update) [09:07] Where do i file the bug ducasse? [09:07] !bug | Jagger [09:07] Jagger: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [09:08] Jagger: make sure to link to relevant threads, bug reports etc [09:08] truedetective_, ..? progress? [09:08] Ok it will be my first bug report I hope I do it well [09:08] @glitchd http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23219272/ [09:09] truedetective_, try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up [09:10] @ glitchd it gave me this output : wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device [09:11] truedetective_, ok, i would suggest a reboot. after your back we can continue. [09:12] truedetective_, reboot and comeback [09:12] @glitchd ok. coming back in 2 minutes [09:12] ok [09:13] Jagger: are you sure the bug requires a version bump ? [09:14] I was told a guy made MusE work by compiling jackd2 from git. I guess git has a more new version of jackd2 [09:14] thats not really bug fixing is it [09:15] not knowing the problem, and just blindly assuming a fix [09:15] it could be a config problem, it could be a build flag, it could be a muse problem that needs fixing, it could (as you say) need a jack version bump, but "some guy fixed it by compiling a new version" isn't really fixing a bug or a bug fixing process [09:16] Jagger: have you asked in #ubuntu-studio if others have seen this problem? [09:16] Jagger: the question is: what changed to that git version. and can the official ubuntu version be patched with that change. [09:16] you need to get a bug logged (without the the fix info) get it confirmed as a legit bug, then work to a fix, rather than just blindly suggest "bump the version" (even though it may nee it) [09:17] Every guy using jackd2 out of the repositories is unable to use Muse because it does not detect jackd2 [09:17] right - so is that a jack problem or a muse problem [09:17] is it a config problem [09:17] is it a version problem [09:17] is it a build flag problem [09:17] what is the problem ? [09:17] I am using ubuntu 16.04 [09:17] and how do you know "every guy" [09:18] where have you verified the bug ? [09:18] so whatsupp guys? [09:19] dfermiumlabs, the ceiling. [09:19] I do not know where the bug is because all other apps are connecting to jackd2 except for Muse. I would guess MusE team is doing something different [09:19] Jagger: ok - so there is the point, you don't know the problem, yet you are blindly suggesting a solution [09:19] the problem could be as simple as a one line change in the config file (it may not be) [09:20] @glitchd i am back [09:20] glitchd: thanks for confirming my irc bouncer is working correctly! kisses [09:20] ] [09:20] Hi, i installed a 32bit .deb on a 64bit sys and it forced the installation of 32 bit apt and removed the apt:amd64 ... now the dependency tree is all messed up and apt wants to install everything in 32bit. what is the way to fix it back to amd64? [09:20] dfermiumlabs, lol np === ubuntu is now known as Guest60959 [09:20] work_: depepends what that deb and the dependencies changed [09:20] truedetective_, ok, if you click the network icon is the wifi listed? [09:20] @glitchd now what i am suppose to do. [09:20] ] [09:21] ikonia, from apt/hirstoy Remove: apt-offline:amd64 (1.7), tasksel-data:amd64 (3.34ubuntu3), apt:amd64 (1.2.12~ubuntu16.04.1), ubuntu-minimal:amd64 (1.361), apt-utils:amd64 (1.2.12~ubuntu16.04.1), tasksel:amd64 (3.34ubuntu3), unattended-upgrades:amd64 (0.90), apt-transport-https:amd64 (1.2.12~ubuntu16.04.1) [09:21] truedetective_, ok, if you click the network icon is the wifi listed? [09:21] work_: that means nothing [09:21] @glitchd no i only of wired network [09:21] I just want Muse to work again that's all. But you guys know better what is to be done. I just let people know just in case they are not aware of the problem. [09:21] @glitchd *no i only have wired network [09:22] Jagger: logging a bug is great, blindly suggesting the version needs a bump, is not [09:22] truedetective_, open terminal a type ifconfig, is there anything different from the last time you checked ifconfig? [09:22] good point ikonia thank you [09:22] @glitchd wifi is not listed [09:22] truedetective_, ok [09:22] DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive sudo apt-get -y -o Dpkg::Options::='--force-confdef' -o Dpkg::Options::='--force-confold' dist-upgrade << why does this still prompt for an OK when upgrading grub-pc with 16.04.01? [09:23] ikonia, i did add apt:i386.. i dpkg --purged the .deb already [09:23] *it [09:23] @glitchd take a look at the output of ifconfig :http://paste.ubuntu.com/23219298/ === cigumo_ is now known as cigumo [09:24] truedetective_, go to Software&Updates [09:24] then click the tab Additional Drivers [09:24] @glitchd cose i restarted the laptop so i dont have the last output of ipconfig. but hyou [09:24] ducasse I will ask on #ubuntu-studio if others saw the problem already, maybe the fix is being worked as I type. === Guest60959 is now known as Slawek [09:25] @glitchd but you do have link to the las t output, and i am at Software&Updates [09:25] Jagger: someone may have already filed a bug, and may have details you don't. i think it's a good place to start. [09:25] truedetective_, i know you dont have the previous output of ifconfig, but i figured you would notice if anything looked different, you would see another interface listed, and the output would be longer than before [09:26] thank you ducasse [09:26] truedetective_, while your in software&updates click the tab at the top that says additional drivers and see if broadcom is listed there [09:26] @glitchd now what to do at Software&Updates [09:26] Jagger: np, good luck :) [09:27] truedetective_, inside software&updates go to the tab at the top of that window that says addition drivers [09:27] @glitchd yes it has listed BRODCOM CORPORATIOIN BCM43142 802.11B/G/N [09:27] truedetective_, see if broadcom corporation is listed [09:27] click it [09:28] truedetective_, click use broadcom [09:28] @glitchd clicked it [09:28] then click apply [09:28] *apply changes [09:29] @glitchd actually i am using it already, so when i click it i can apply changes. [09:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23219315/ apt/history.log and apt-get upgrade output snippet... [09:29] truedetective_, so it activated then? [09:29] @glitchd i can not apply changes. sorry [09:30] @glitchd it is not clickable [09:30] truedetective_, why not? whats stopping you? [09:30] truedetective_, oh [09:30] looking for linux kernel 4.4.0 xenial documentation? [09:30] @glitchd actully i am using it already [09:30] hello, All! how can i grant permission read my home dir (/home/user1) to another user (user2)? i trying to add group 'user1' to user2 through 'usermod -G user2 user1' and then set chmod 750 to /home/user1. But user2 still have permission denied at read /home/user1. [09:30] truedetective_, go back to terminal and check ifconfig and see if another interface is listed that wasnt there before [09:31] @glitchd ok [09:31] truedetective_, it might be easier to just open another terminal window and check ifconfig so you can compare the 2 outputs side by side [09:32] dimm: i think you should use usermod -aG to add a group === zz_capri is now known as capri [09:33] glitchd http://paste.ubuntu.com/23219324/ [09:34] truedetective_, try iwconfig and see what it lists [09:34] truedetective_, you can pm me and paste the output instead of going to that paste site, if you like i mean [09:34] @glitchd if you want to help me more i can give my team viewer id so that u can control my laptop [09:35] truedetective_, pm me [09:35] @glitchd lo no wireless extensions. enp14s0 no wireless extensions. [09:36] truedetective_, check your private messages [09:36] @glitchd or u can se it here also http://paste.ubuntu.com/23219327/ [09:37] @glitchd ok come there [09:39] i'm experiencing some wrong staffs with nvidia in ubuntu that i didn't used to, like i cant watch a movie in mplayer with vdpau enabled without tearing anymore [09:40] HI [09:41] hola === igor_opaniuk__ is now known as igor_opaniuk [09:44] how do i remove a character (;) with ed from a line in a text file ? [09:46] hmm apt-cache policy only lists "i386 Packages" as source, how do i change that back to amd64? [09:47] dpkg --print-architecture does say amd64 [09:49] Jakey3: try ##linux, maybe [09:53] I went straight to MusE's forum and posted some information about the problem. [09:53] I think if they change something in MusE to make it work, MusE should become more stable. [09:54] ubuntu is good for servers ? [09:54] Thank you again I am leaving [09:54] ntzorx1: yes [09:54] how is the ubuntu phone progressing ? [09:55] ntzorx1: use the LTS releases. they offer a 5 year support. [09:55] try #ubuntu-touch for that ntzorx1 [09:55] !touch | ntzorx1 [09:55] ntzorx1: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch [09:55] ntzorx1: its enhancing. for more specific questions ask in #ubuntu-touch === uhhf1 is now known as uhhf === ubuntu is now known as Guest98933 === Guest98933 is now known as Slawek [10:00] Moin Moin [10:02] brauche hilfe bei ubuntu14.04 kommt immer so eine nachricht mms instaliren in etwa [10:03] !de | nils_ [10:03] nils_: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! [10:05] brauche hilfe bei 14.04 [10:05] nils_, english here please [10:05] nils_: in #ubuntu-de gibts deutsche hilfe [10:05] #ubuntu-de for german nils_ [10:06] ok hier is deutsch [10:11] hi [10:12] I am trying to prepare my own mini iso as mentioned here: [10:12] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization [10:12] all I need is to add preseed file [10:12] however I stuck on Building the repository with apt-ftparchive === [0xAA] is now known as FuggyArtist [10:13] mkdir -p /opt/indices /opt/apt-ftparchive [10:13] cd /opt/indices/ [10:13] DIST=trusty [10:13] for SUFFIX in extra.main main main.debian-installer restricted restricted.debian-installer; do [10:13] wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/indices/override.$DIST.$SUFFIX [10:13] done [10:13] it doesn't woprk for me [10:14] how can i check echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward worked? [10:14] cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [10:14] if 1 then it worked [10:15] it did [10:15] thanks [10:15] manually downloading apt*_amd64.deb and dpkg -i seems to have fixed my issue [10:16] Jakey3: set in /etc/sysctl.conf or /etc/sysctl.d/ if you want it to be permanent [10:24] does anyone know where I can get the source code for the Notifications that appear on the mobile device? [10:25] Paz__, for the ubuntu touch? [10:25] bazhang - yes for Ubuntu touch [10:25] #ubuntu-touch Paz__ ask there [10:25] hello [10:25] How to install NVIDIA GeForce GT 720M with OUT Problem ubuntu 16.04.1 desktop amd64 ? Please Help Me How to install it ? My Laptop Acer Aspire E1-570G Screen: 15.6 inch Display RAM: 8 GB DDR3 Procssor: Intel Core i3 (3rd Gen) ==> Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 Hard Disk: 500 GB HDD Battery: 4 cell [10:25] how can i install grub on efi after a side-by-side install with another linux distro? Ubuntu doesn't show in list at present [10:25] ok, thanks [10:27] joelio, thanks [10:27] monk: run update-grub on the linux install that handles the grub [10:27] ahmadddddd: look at systemsettings -> software and updates -> last tab. there you can install the nvidia drivers [10:27] k1l, I managed to remove that partition after i installed ubuntu [10:28] my problem not install and black screen and lowgrapics mod ? [10:29] ahmadddddd: then install the nvidia driver like i told you, if you get to the desktop [10:29] monk: reinstall grub then. you can try bootrepair from a live cd/usb https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [10:29] plase help me MR.K11 [10:30] k1l, ok cool [10:30] ahmadddddd: do you see the desktop? [10:33] hello help me how to install nvidia fucker [10:34] ahmaad, no cursing here [10:34] ahmaad: do you see the desktop? [10:34] any one helping [10:34] ahmaad, yes people are helping you [10:35] NVIDIA GeForce GT 720M with OUT Problem ubuntu 16.04.1 desktop amd64 [10:35] My Laptop Acer Aspire E1-570G [10:35] ahmaad, dont repeat, answer the questions we ask [10:36] what you ask plase [10:37] ahmaad: scroll up and read what i have asked you already. if you dont want to answer stop asking. [10:37] that is ? do you see the desktop? [10:38] ahmaad, you say you go into low graphics mode [10:38] ahmaad, so follow the instructions already given on how to install the correct drivers [10:39] yes i install but its say low graphics mode [10:39] and balck screen :( [10:39] ahmaad, installed from where [10:39] with comands [10:39] ahmaad, what exact commands [10:40] tell us the exact commands you used ahmaad [10:41] Anyone experience with ceph firefly on 16.04? running into some nasty dep issues "ceph-common is not configured yet" [10:41] sudo apt-get install nvidia-367 nvidia-settings [10:42] Source : http://www.noobslab.com/2016/06/keep-your-nvidia-drivers-up-to-date-in.html [10:44] answre [10:44] !patience | ahmaad [10:44] ahmaad: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [10:45] lol this kid [10:45] re ask every ten to fifteen minutes ahmaad [10:45] if someone knows they will answer ahmaad [10:45] asked in the website all [10:45] so be patient for an answer ahmaad [10:45] you can help me by team viwer [10:46] pebcak [10:46] no ahmaad [10:46] proxx, please dont do that [10:46] helping plase :( [10:46] lel sure [10:47] ahmaad: you dont need the PPA and nvidia 367. the official ubuntu 361 should work fine [10:47] Error: Ubuntu bug 361 could not be found [10:47] ahmaad, do you understand the meaning of be patient [10:47] get me some commads to install plase [10:48] ahmaad: sudo apt purge nvidia* then sudo apt install nvidia-361 [10:48] ahmaad: ah wait. you need to remove the ppa with ppa-purge first [10:48] im test it thanks k11 [10:48] im install system agin and insall nvidia 361 [10:55] hello to everyone [10:55] Mr K11 Nvida 361 fix my probleem ? === yinflyin1 is now known as yinflying [10:59] hi my monitor resoluiion showing unkown display [11:07] how would i addtext to a file in a specific file or a specific line? [11:13] HI how to convert .docx to .pdf in linux preserving elements like charts, tables, graphics, images etc? is there a program/app available? [11:13] !patience [11:13] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [11:14] christian_: LibreOffice Writer === Jochen_wvdT is now known as Schlawiner [11:15] Jakey3: open it with an editor and change the text? [11:16] k1l, programitally [11:16] z80a_: yeah but it destroys some elements in the .docx file... I've tried to export it as pdf [11:16] *pragmatically [11:16] Jakey3: well, i think you want to read yourself into regular expressions [11:16] *programatically [11:17] for example echo "foo" > eg.txt [11:17] you can specify the line [11:17] *can not [11:20] hey all, ive got a dual screen setup with a nvidia gtx950. it was all working fine till i got longer (10ft) DVI and HDMI cables [11:20] Jakey3: no, you cant with > [11:20] now one of my screens will ONLY go to 1366x768 resolution [11:20] the HDMI screen [11:20] xrandr shows that is its max res (and it only shows 3 res options in display settings) [11:20] ive tried resetting the monitor to defaults... switching back to the old hdmi cable etc. [11:21] christian_: Microsoft Word compatibility is not 100% and likely never will be. For perfect results, find a Windows machine with Microsoft Office. Optiammly the machine that was used to author the document to make sure fonts and embedded element export correctly to the PDF. [11:21] but nothing will get it back to 1920x1080 [11:21] any thoughts? [11:21] fwiw this is a 14.04 system that ive had running for YEARSS [11:21] *YEARS [11:22] https://gist.github.com/anonymous/eab47f158487c035001187207558562c [11:22] thats my xrandr output [11:22] these are identical monitors [11:25] it appears as though the screen isnt being detected properly [11:25] it just says "DFP-1" ... vs "ASUS VS239" like my other screen [11:25] lirakis can you manually add a res and apply it ? [11:25] proxx: not sure how to do that [11:25] z80a_:thanks my friend [11:26] lirakis https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xrandr#Adding_undetected_resolutions [11:26] the newmode/addmode stuff [11:28] hi i am not getting my screen solution set.. i tried lot of .. but failed [11:31] hello === decoder_ is now known as decoder [11:36] How can i redirect every output from crontab -l to file? crontab -l 2>&1 >> somefile did result in "crontab: no crontab for ..." if i got no crons for the user. Everything is ok but why is this echoed [11:36] I redirect stdout and stderr but there is still an output [11:36] jami why dont you just call a script and do it from there [11:36] kiss n stuff [11:36] anyone help? I have an ntfs hard drive and I can't access it from ubuntu 16.04.01. it says I'm not permitted to perform action.... [11:37] ntfs-3g is installed. [11:37] proxx: I could but i try to understand this special case [11:38] hi i am not getting my screen solution set.. i tried lot of .. but failed [11:38] Chunkyz , depends on how you mount it , check fstab settings and look up how to do it the right way [11:42] #angular [11:43] hello [11:44] hello [11:45] proxx: i literally just switched which monitor was using which cable ... rebooted and "magic" [11:46] lirakis lol heh , linux n graphics , what should i say [11:46] how can change power management tool on ubuntu [11:46] silly sauce [11:46] well .. glad its fixed [11:46] i have a question for anyone who wants top answer it, how hard is it to migrate from windows to linux [11:46] heh [11:46] thanks for the tips [11:46] welcome bro [11:47] weird [11:47] Beetlebot just stop gaming, no pain > go browse the webs , too much for a channel like this [11:47] Beetlebot, completely dependent on you, and what you use your computer for. [11:47] proxx, you don't need to stop gaming! That was like 5 years ago. [11:48] Beetlebot: Easypeasy! But tell us more about your PC, your usage, application you use, who you are...̈́ [11:49] lordcirth , thats you opinion , stopping gaming is a good tip in general :P [11:49] right now i use it for school (3D modeling and writing code) i know i would have to keep a windows box for 3d modeling software. and basic web browsing and games [11:50] Beetlebot: best is to just give it a try since everyones usage and hardware is different. start with a live-usb. if you like it you can try a dualboot setup [11:50] 3d modeling, writing code, web browsing, games all work in linux [11:50] you are better of browsing on alinux box 4 sure [11:50] Beetlebot, if your 3D modeling program is Windows only, yeah. What language are you writing in? [11:52] for school i write in visual basic and javascript but at home i mess around with some java and python. but i have tried live usbs and i like the interface of linux but the hard thing to get use to is commands and no .exe files haha [11:52] Beetlebot: you get used to that. learning by doing. [11:52] Beetlebot, just dual-boot and try it over time. I started doing that in 2010, deleted Windows ~2012. [11:52] You should forgot about such concepts, its like asking where is my c: drive [11:53] what exactly does the command rm 'which qmake' do? [11:53] any helpful tips for a first timer then? [11:53] just enjoy the ride, install it , break it , dont rely on gui too much and have fun [11:53] arch wiki is very helpful [11:54] daveomcd: it removes all qmakes that are found on your system [11:54] daveomcd: deletes a file named 'which qmake' ... but you may mean `which qmake` which would delete the output of the command "which qmake" [11:54] Hello. I was trying to get help on #libreoffice , but it seems inactive. Is it ok to post here questions about LO? [11:55] CrackedCracker, probably. [11:56] kil, Ben64, thanks! I was following a guide and it said to do that if the path didn't read a specific thing. I tried reinstalling those packages but says they're installed already. You know how I might go about correcting it? I have the one here i wish to use but its almost as if it doesn't have a PATH specified via `qmake` or something: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23217525/ [11:57] Well, I'm trying to get two pages with different orientation(portrait and landscape) in LO Draw, but can't find a way. [11:57] General advice is to insert "manual break", but it doesn't seem to be in Draw. [11:59] everytime i download a application from a repository i can never figure out how to run it how would i run and install an application after downloading it from the repository [12:00] Beetlebot: such as ? [12:00] i was trying to get vlc running on debian [12:01] so, I'm interested in your ubuntu questions/situation [12:01] not debian [12:01] Beetlebot: we focus on ubuntu in here. but if you download a program from the ubuntu repos it will be fully installed and you can start it on your desktop [12:02] Beetlebot: for debian issue please ask the #debian guys, so they can solve that [12:02] i was just wondering if the process would be any similar on ubuntu [12:03] Hi there, my xubuntu16.04 box hangs during dist-upgrade with snapd config and wont finish, after reboot dist-upgrade prompts to do dpkg --configure -a, so something is fucked. any clues? [12:03] deathleff: please don't swear, there is no need and it's not welcome [12:04] ikonia, understood, sry for that. [12:04] no problem [12:06] Why Psychiatry Should Be Abolished as a Medical Specialty [12:07] anti-tortuure: nothing to o with this channel [12:07] please drop the topic [12:07] Ikonia... [12:07] CrackedCracker, you can't just make it 2 documents? [12:07] Fuck yourself [12:07] hi [12:08] just english? [12:08] mrkkk01, hi [12:09] which is the reson of this chat? [12:09] reason* [12:09] mrkkk01, this is the Ubuntu support channel [12:09] lordcirth: I could, one more possible solution is to rotate one drawing, so it will appear horizontally, but that doesn't seem to be "right" way to do it. [12:09] okk thanks [12:11] mrkkk01: there are other language ubuntu chats like #ubuntu-es #ubuntu-nl or #ubuntu-pt [12:15] Hi, what happens if I symlink 2 files to one destination? [12:16] nothing [12:18] hackal, isnt that kinda like dividing my zero? [12:18] unkown display showing [12:19] see, I am scared to try :D I don't want to shut down my production server (at the moment only ubuntu in my reach) [12:19] hackal, create a virtual machine and give it a try? === yazdmich is now known as BytesAndCoffee [12:28] good morning all === nightfury is now known as Guest51165 [12:28] Dose anyone know if there is going to ber a fix for hdmi video in the near future for ubuntu? [12:28] fix for what ? [12:28] video across the hdmi [12:29] yes, but what is the problem with it [12:29] it works for most people just fine [12:29] so what "fix" are you talking about === julien is now known as Guest97781 [12:30] well when i got my rx480 i lost all video on that machine,...I tryed to reinstall thinking "well just maybe",... [12:30] didnt happen for me [12:30] and so far i havent been able to use that machine [12:30] Ive tryed several tricks to get it to work [12:31] BUT i am using a TV with hdmi for it too [12:31] im wondering if its time to break down and just get a monitor [12:31] guys, I lost the top bar, any help? [12:33] well,...you all have been a lot of help,....laters all [12:33] win 1 [12:34] hi [12:34] hello every body [12:35] is there any one here? [12:35] yep [12:35] hi joris [12:36] hi [12:36] can you help me? [12:36] please [12:37] i want to setup and configure l2tp ipsec on ubuntu server === tachyons is now known as tachyons_ [12:38] do anyone know how to get vlan working with enpXsX devices? [12:38] sorry black don't know anything about that [12:38] black check https://github.com/hwdsl2/setup-ipsec-vpn [12:39] thank you [12:39] anyone figured out cisco on ubuntu 16? [12:39] fucking java rot [12:42] morsnowski thats just ipsec. i need to setup an l2tp server [12:43] hi my composer showing error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol Failed to enable crypto [12:43] it seems that the .d scripts for vlan doesn't work with enp interfaces any ideas === destinydriven_ is now known as destinydriven [12:51] Anyone? Normally if I'm in "Files" and I want to open a terminal, I right click on a "blank area" and select "Open in Terminal". How can I do this if the folder is so full of tiles that there is no "blank space"? [12:54] i am getting weird interface names in ubuntu 16.04, like ens160 and ens34u1 instead of the old school eth0, eth1, etc, is this normal? [12:54] bandroidx, yes [12:54] Southern_Gentlem, is this a new kernel thing or a ubuntu thing? [12:55] no [12:55] network manager doing it? [12:55] bandroidx: yes, it's called 'consistent device naming' [12:55] nope freedesktop pushed that years ago [12:55] ahhh, so its like a uuid for my nics? [12:55] Hi guys, I have a Thinkpad T420, and I have installed ubuntu 16.04 (amd64) on it using netinstall and then used tasksel to install gnome. I'm getting a strange behaviour though: I see two instances of xorg running on vt2 and vt7... is this normal? [12:55] you can disable by setting net.ifnames=0 in /etc/default/grub && update-grub [12:55] make sure to rename any static configuration [12:56] maybe i dont want to disable it, i want to setup a router on my ubuntu box, if these names will never change for my 2 nics, then i might want to keep it this way [12:56] or keep it, whatever works [12:56] Hey all [12:56] so my wireless broadband usb modem is ens34u1, it will always be that forever no matter what? [12:57] i just want to make sure when i setup my iptables rules with these names its not a problem [12:57] yea, but you could do that in udev in old setup too fwiw [12:57] yes true [12:57] thanks for the help [12:58] i should probably disable network manager if i am going to be using this as a router, agreed? [13:00] bandroidx: yea, just use static configs in /etc/network/interfaces [13:00] joelio, yeah probably less likely to have issues [13:02] hi when i am installing php all pachanges [13:02] php-yac : Conflicts: php-apcu but 5.1.3+4.0.10-1build1 is to be installed Conflicts: php-user-cache E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. [13:06] hi when i am installing PHP7 on ubuntu 16 .. i am getting "Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. " [13:06] whois raspaille [13:06] raspaille: thats you [13:07] sorry very new wanted to check commands [13:07] raspaille: its okay ;) [13:07] hi === johnl is now known as Guest68854 [13:08] how do i connect to to the irc of node.js i have created username and password [13:08] bpcpi: type: /join #node.js [13:09] need help on installing vnc viewer through terminal [13:10] or maybe i should check on another channel [13:11] c00k33-m0st3r: sudo apt install {package name} === bedfro is now known as workfro [13:11] Pici where should i type [13:12] do you kmow of a package [13:12] ??? [13:12] c00k33-m0st3r, apt-cache search vnc [13:13] hi [13:14] hi. is there some public accessible interface to the build servers? we are waiting for a fix of #1626987 / #1626883. the packages are already beeing built, but I didn't find a away to find out, how far the builds are [13:16] sebastia1: libssl? [13:17] in a container when connected to postgres, commands wait for me to continue printing... how do you circumvent that? [13:18] ash_workz: what commands? === owner is now known as Guest87356 [13:21] jami: yes [13:22] sebastia1: sit tight, they're ready when they're ready :) [13:22] probably checking no other regressions induced [13:22] oh, actually it's only in psql [13:22] so I guess that must be a psql configuration [13:22] joelio: sure, I know that. I don't want to put any pressure on anyone. Just visibility of the build server (if there's one). [13:22] clear [13:23] Hi [13:23] Why Psychiatry Should Be Abolished as a Medical Specialty === owner_ is now known as Guest46893 [13:23] sebastia1: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security-proposed/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages [13:23] sebastia1: "9 minutes ago" :) [13:23] k [13:25] joelio: thanks a lot! === me is now known as Guest64631 [13:30] or maybe not [13:30] is there like a pager configuration or something? [13:32] I guess you have to configure these things via `more` [13:32] but I am not sure how to do that [13:33] hello everyone, is there a program to merge png files, the same way pdfchain does for pdf ones? [13:36] ash_workz: what are you trying to do? [13:36] if it's docker realted, baybe #docker better (although I use it but not sure what you're trying to do specifically) [13:36] found it; "convert image1.jpg image2.png PDFfile.pdf outputFileName.pdf" just works fine [13:37] the solution here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/303849/create-a-single-pdf-from-multiple-text-images-or-pdf-files [13:41] hello [13:42] I've got persistent video issues. I first thought it was a youtube thing only, but it happens with all videps. can you help me fix this issue once and for all? [13:44] joelio: no... it was apparently postgres related [13:44] so far I've tried installing gstreamer1.0-plugins-good, -bad, ubuntu-restricted-extras [13:44] joelio: like I thought [13:44] gstreamer-tools [13:44] joelio: it was (in psql) `\pset pager` [13:44] nvlc-plugins [13:44] no dice [13:49] سلام عليكم [13:49] Marhaba. ! [13:50] Hello? I'm planning on getting Ubuntu on an External SSD is it possible without damaging the Windows files on my internal Hard drive? And can I copy the Ubuntu installation from my Virtual Machine to the External SSD? [13:53] APersonThatLikes: yes you can just start ubuntu installation and tell it to use your external ssd for both the installation and boot loader [13:54] Welp Akik I actually tried to install Ubuntu on to it like 4 weeks ago and well I destroyed my Windows Bootloader [13:54] Can I maybe copy the Ubuntu installation from my VMWare Virtual Machine to the External SSD? [13:54] APersonThatLikes: the installation asks you where you want to put the boot loader, unless if you used one of the "automatic" partitioning options [13:54] in which case that could probably happen [13:55] I have some applications on my VM that are customized for my needs so... [13:56] APersonThatLikes: it could be possible but i don't have any guide to link you to [13:56] Ok, I guess I'll just have to try [13:57] moving the vm image to external is the path of least resistance and won't eat bootloaders [13:57] APersonThatLikes: usually it's done by copying the whole file system from disk a to disk b, fixing /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/grub.conf and reinstalling grub [13:58] do the automatic partitioning options ask you where grub will be installed to? [13:58] i always use the manual way [13:59] I followed a tutorial on how to dualboot Windows 10 and Ubuntu he said to put the Bootloader on the Windows Drive Strange... [14:00] APersonThatLikes: or did it tell you to use the efi partition? [14:00] I don't really know what that is xD (I'm quite new to this) [14:04] APersonThatLikes: uefi is the new way how computers boot. there's one partition on your hard disk that has files needed for it [14:05] I had to start the Intallation in Bios mode since it said Windows was in Bios mode [14:05] why not just move the virtual machine file to the external drive? it's less work [14:05] unless you really want native [14:13] I am currently in the process of installing rancid with a config management tool. And it has 2 prompts which I need to say "yes" to [14:13] What is the best way with dealing with this? Can I use some sort of template before I run apt-get install? === Guest4978 is now known as IdleOne [14:20] EriC^: hi, im the guy with that dual boot problem [14:20] EriC^: so i did that boot on the UEFI [14:21] This is my first SSD. I have added noatime to /etc/fstab .... Is that enough or do I need torun fstrim also ? What I want to know is if running fstrim really needed [14:22] john_rambo: depends, what ssd do you have? [14:22] EriC^: And it takes me to a screen where i choose what device i want to boot from [14:22] joelio, Samsung 750 EVO 120GB [14:23] john_rambo: don't think they need discards setting [14:23] you could though, it won't affect anything [14:24] joelio, Have a look at this https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/3a58s0/dont_use_linux_on_samsung_ssds/ [14:25] not reading the article, working, but that's balls.. I use smasung SSD on desktops, laptops and servers (v local storage and ceph clusters) running linux [14:25] only issue I had was a firmware one on the 840s [14:25] Okay/THanks [14:25] and that was a drive update (nothing to do with linux) [14:26] just a quick question to everyone: say i dual boot windows and ubuntu, right? And i deleted the ubuntu partition, and i get grub rescue errors. would booting in UEFI evade this problems? [14:28] john_rambo: fstrim is needed but there should be a cronjob running already making weekly cleanouts [14:29] k1l, I am on Debian Jessie atm. I checked there is no cronjob set [14:29] john_rambo: please ask #debian for debian issues then === BenderRodriguez is now known as Foxhoundz [14:30] k1l, Okay [14:35] hello ubuntu [14:47] wtf bitch ===> 78.165.184.30 ??? [14:47] @_@ [14:47] PircBot and my ass [14:48] ok [14:49] MMan_: please tone it down [14:49] there is no need for it [14:49] roger === JanC is now known as Guest73904 === JanC_ is now known as JanC === nuclearbob is now known as nuclearbob_afk [14:54] can anyone tell me what the `34` and `38` denote, and how I come to a changelog between those versions? I'm not super familiar iwth ubuntu package naming conventions and I'm down a debugging rabbit hole: [14:54] `4.4.0-38-generic` [14:55] iam not in a mood foor chating.. tc see ya later ! [14:56] http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux/linux_4.4.0-38.57/changelog ? I think ? === capri is now known as zz_capri === y0sh_ is now known as y0sh === zz_capri is now known as capri [15:19] a [15:19] What startup files are run after my .bashrc file is executed on ssh login from a remote machine? I have something that is exporting SSH and GPG agent information to my shell (which I configured), but for the life of me I can't figure out where. [15:20] jwhisnant: look at what bashrc and bash_profile source [15:20] jwhisnant: .profile [15:20] jwhisnant: also keep in mind the gpg and ssh keys maybe running already in the agent [15:21] popey: .profile, thanks my grep was missing it [15:21] np [15:22] does .profile run after .bashrc? [15:22] or are they run at the same time? [15:22] you can test that by just adding an "echo this is .bashrc" in one, and something else in the other and then "ssh localhost" to find out [15:24] vnay92: .profile in my case runs .bashrc, then my GPG configs. # ~/.profile: executed by the command interpreter for login shells. This file is not read by bash(1), if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login exists. === nuclearbob_afk is now known as nuclearbob [15:25] Cool thanks! [15:32] * vnay92 [15:35] how do i add a new program to the list of applications i can use to open a file? [15:42] how do find a particular sentence from a folder? [15:43] ok found a decent stack overflow- needed to add a /usr/share/applications/my-app.desktop file [15:43] if there are many files in that folder.. [15:43] ankitraj: from the command line, cd to that folder. then do `grep -r "this is a sentance I want to find" *` [15:43] (the things insdie the `` are what you should type) [15:43] I have many ACPI errors in dmesg http://pastebin.com/wj62qh5k [15:44] rektide, that will be under " " or '' [15:44] and why * at the end [15:50] ankitraj: the * at the end gets turned into all the filenames in the current directory [15:50] ankitraj: and directory names [15:50] ankitraj: not sure about your first question? what are you asking? === happy is now known as Guest21233 === precise is now known as precise|lunch [15:55] anyone know hoe i can make this work http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23220713/ === toc_ is now known as toc [15:55] Jakey3: #bash might know [15:55] Hi I just installed Ubuntu on to my external hard drive but know that I try to boot the computer it just starts Windows I tried EasyBCD but that just gets me to a Grub Prompt, And if I try to restart my computer it just boots Windows 10 again.... [15:56] *now [15:57] Halp, set boot from the right device? enbter your bios and look for the boot section [15:57] c/enter === Lauras is now known as Village === sorakun is now known as akaisora === scottt is now known as Guest31830 [16:09] Hello, i want wondering what is best VPN server for ubuntu 16.04? [16:10] Village, for a person to connect, or another server? [16:11] compdoc, i i good understand then por person to connect, that i can change my PC ip to Ubuntu IP [16:13] Village, openvpn is pretty easy [16:14] compdoc, ok i will try it, thanks [16:14] when I connect one firewall to another, I use ipsec [16:19] Hello, I've 3 screens.. my laptop one and other two.. one of these others is connected thru HDMI and the other RGB... the thing is I can only see two screens at the same time... In the screens config I see that the one connected to the hdmi is off... I try to turn it on and nothing happens... seems that It only wants to keep two screens. By the way I'm using Gnome Shell [16:20] Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 28798) [16:20] mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged [16:20] what are those events ? [16:20] Why Psychiatry Should Be Abolished as a Medical Specialty join toooooooooooo antipsychiatry.org [16:21] streulma: seems like a overheating issue? [16:21] CrazyLord, have you checked your CPU can handle more than two screens? The info is easy to find for Intel CPUs, not sure for AMDs. [16:22] The Case Against Psychiatry [16:22] Why Psychiatry is Evil and Must Be Abolished [16:22] ouroumov_: I'll check that... didn't knew that existed, lol [16:22] nacc I'm compiling, get some 84 degrees Celcius [16:24] hi, i'm having persistant kernel/gpu problems that I can't solve. Does anyone know where I can hire someone to help my fix my machine? [16:26] how do i install a deb file when it has dependencies? [16:26] how do i show the actual error in ed as opposed to ? [16:26] CuriousErnestBro: usually you don't. or you do and then use apt to resolve the dependencies [16:26] how does apt work? [16:27] CuriousErnestBro: what .deb are you installing? [16:27] brackets [16:27] dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of brackets: [16:27] brackets depends on libgcrypt11 (>= 1.4.5); however: [16:27] Package libgcrypt11 is not installed. [16:27] apt-cache search libcrypt [16:28] apt-get install ... [16:28] CuriousErnestBro: sudo apt-get install -f [16:28] there are like 20.. [16:28] CuriousErnestBro: this will install the dependencies [16:28] ZeiP_: not libcrypt, libgcrypt [16:28] ... if it is possible [16:28] err, rzv --^ [16:28] Noob question here ... working on a music project that I want to backup the files every couple of minutes. Whats the terminal command? cp -a /source/ /backup/ ... ? [16:29] baizon, did it, now dpkg -i brackets.deb? [16:29] cp [16:29] SomethisGER: you probably should use rsync in a cronjob [16:29] CuriousErnestBro: what was the result of running the command? [16:29] -R [16:29] SomethisGER: yes use rsync [16:29] Thanx [16:29] nacc: ok ... trying rsync ... [16:29] SomethisGER, you might also take a look at cp -U [16:29] baizon: thanks ... [16:30] baizon, same error [16:30] baizon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23220921/ [16:31] does anyone have a folders of text documents they would be willing to send me for educational purposes? I have started learning a few things and I am focusing on text files and folders. Thanks [16:31] Keydns: that seems offtopic for the support channel [16:31] trying to install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23220923/ [16:31] Keydns, check the gutenberg project [16:31] i am very new at this [16:32] th0r: thanks [16:32] CuriousErnestBro: so yeah you also need the dependencies, its a bad idea to download custom deb [16:32] Anyone know the best way to verify downloaded ubuntu iso? [16:32] nacc: Thank you, rsync is awesome! :-))) [16:33] baizon, how would I do this? [16:33] Keydns, why not create your own [16:33] normally I use ppa, but people say ppa is bad too [16:33] and I can't compile from source [16:36] ouroumov: I see that Intel HD 4000 supports 3 screens... is there a config I'm missing? [16:37] thats what i have === daddy is now known as Guest32888 === Guest32888 is now known as captainfixerpc14 [16:41] hi everyone === precise|lunch is now known as precise [16:45] can someone please help me? I feel like killing myself. [16:45] how do i delete specific line numbers in vim [16:45] ? [16:45] for example 5-10 [16:46] i'm trying to install MPV and Baka Mplayer. terminal told me it can't QMAKE. I was told I have to get Qt. But Qt is this huge 3GB+ thing to download, apparently. Is there another way? I'm using the latest Ubuntu GNOME [16:47] Hey guys i need a bit of help. I want to have Helvetica font available on a ubuntu server that's available on my regular ubuntu locally [16:47] How can I do that? [16:47] anyone know of vnc viewers for 16.04 [16:51] c00k33-m1st3r, remmina is still in the repos [16:52] any1? [16:53] Hi. When does Ubuntu Masturbating Monkey get released? [16:54] i'm trying to install Baka Mplayer. when I tried to follow the instructions here http://bakamplayer.u8sand.net/installation.php#linux the terminal said it can't QMAKE. I was told I have to get Qt. But Qt is this huge 3GB+ thing to download, apparently. Is there another way? I'm using the latest Ubuntu GNOME === nacc_ is now known as nacc [16:55] PCatinean_: the same packages are available to server as to desktop [16:56] c00k33-m1st3r: `apt-cache search vnc` and grep appropriately [16:56] ahno: why not use their PPA? (as unsupported as building from source yourself) [16:57] nacc I don't know how to do any of that [16:58] ahno: then seems like you shuldn't be using out-of-archive packages. But do you see the link next to Ubuntu on that page? click it and it should have instructions. Dunno if it's supported for whichever release you're on. Or follow the instructions to build yourself, and if you have issues, contact them (not this channel) [16:58] Hi. When does Ubuntu Masturbating Monkey get released? [16:59] !ohmy | Lacta [16:59] Lacta: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [16:59] Fuck you you fucking cunts [16:59] !info mpv | ahno what does baka give you that mpv doesn't do much better? [16:59] ahno what does baka give you that mpv doesn't do much better?: mpv (source: mpv): video player based on MPlayer/mplayer2. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.14.0-1build1 (xenial), package size 837 kB, installed size 2080 kB [17:00] SchrodingersScat: good point, as well :) [17:00] <\9> hmm mplayer is that obsolete? [17:00] \9: debatable, some say it doesn't update as often as it should, hence mpv [17:00] <\9> i see [17:00] <\9> i'll give it a shot [17:01] I have an ATI HD 5450 video card but things do not run as wel, espesially youtube videoś. On windows 10 everything is smooth and fast. After doing some research to see if my video card is supported, I found out it is. How can I get the proprietary driver from ATI working? [17:01] gebruiker: what version of ubuntu? [17:01] exit [17:01] exit [17:01] nacc: the problem is that i have no idea what i'm supposed to do when i click through to that ubuntu link. there are instructions on adding ffmpeg test 1 or whatever to ppa but that's it. no instructions on how to install Baka Mplayer [17:01] !ppa | ahno [17:01] ahno: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [17:02] ubottu I can't figure out how to install mpv either. i just want to watch x265 videos ;( vlc doesn't always work [17:02] ahno: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [17:02] ahno: does `apt-get install mpv` not work? [17:02] nacc, 16.04 lts [17:02] nacc, 16.04.1 LTS [17:02] ahno: or sudo apt install mpv [17:03] gebruiker: i believe 16.04 (and on) only have the admgpu drivers (open source); fglrx is gone (that's a good thing :) [17:04] nacc, SchrodingersScat: ya, that works. thanks. IDK why it was so difficult to find somewhere mentioning this. :| thanks [17:04] nacc,but my youtube video playback is like looking at grandma boobs ( touch of drama here) [17:04] ahno: you might want to read the manual? [17:05] ahno: as far as learning how to use ubuntu [17:05] gebruiker: well, that has more to do with what you're watching (j/k) [17:05] rofl @ nacc [17:05] gebruiker: yes, it's a work inprogress, i'd say -- aiui, particularly for newer cards [17:05] ahno: yep, hopefully that works with the video, good luck. [17:06] nacc, so I downgrade to a version that supports the proprietary drvier? Years ago I installed ubuntu and it worked fine [17:06] gebruiker: up to you... it was int he release notes, iirc, for 16.04.1 [17:06] gebruiker: and there's no 'downgrade', it'd be a reinstall [17:07] nacc, hmm, I would be interested in learning how to make it work with my current ubuntu install, weither using proprietary drivers somehow or another solution. . . [17:07] gebruiker: there are *no* proprietary drivers for amd anymore (aiui) [17:10] Investigate "THE HOLOHOAX" [17:10] “The reason people are silenced is not because they speak falsely, but because they speak the truth. This is because if people speak falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used against them — except force.” === ubuntu is now known as Guest79858 [17:11] Is there a PPA available for the Zstandard compression tools? Just prefer to use a PPA that someone has taken the time on than having to build the source myself. === tachyons is now known as tachyons_ [17:14] cef: there is version 1.0 on debian.or === NoobsFlyVFR is now known as IHateBarbs [17:15] baizon: ahh cool .. ta === rzv is now known as thyjew [17:16] cef: https://packages.debian.org/sid/zstd [17:18] cef: I normally wouldn't mix and match packages [17:19] SchrodingersScat: neither would I normally. it's only for testing atm anyway. Hence why I was looking for a PPA or backport. ;) [17:21] ciao, quale programma mi consigliate per fare una live? [17:22] !ubuntu-pt | Guest49809 [17:22] !pt | Guest49809 [17:22] Guest49809: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada. [17:33] Ubuntu is great? [17:38] wtf === z_ is now known as Guest79873 [17:49] Hello? [17:49] Secretsnackbar: hello [17:50] I tread on an Ubuntu forum that I might be able to find people to chat with here that could help me with some trouble I'm having [17:50] *read, not "tread" [17:50] Hey, can somebody help me? I need to mount my windows partition read-only, but when I do ALL my partitions become inaccessible :/ [17:54] #quit [17:56] IndianCurry: are you on ubuntu? how are you mounting your windows partition read-only? [18:07] test [18:07] :) [18:08] just doing a quick text rendering test. pls ignore. the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG [18:08] alright bye [18:10] lol :D [18:13] hey [18:15] I'm currently trying to go from dual boot Windows + Fedora to dual boot Windows + Ubuntu, and I want to free up some of the space that Fedora was hogging and give it to Windows [18:15] Currently, I've managed to get a usb to boot Ubuntu but I'm looking at my gparted and it's a bit daunting [18:15] Was hoping someone could help me make sure I don't fudge it up [18:15] stranglerfish_, look at the filesystem types and labels. They should be clear. If not, we can help you figure it out. [18:16] is it normal to have a process "/lib/systemd/systemd --user" hanging around running continuously after reboot, or is it an indication something is failling at boot? [18:17] Kireji, that's normal [18:17] cscf: thank you. but seriously? [18:18] Kireji, systemd is your init system, why wouldn't it be running? [18:18] it's running as a user! [18:19] 4 as root, 2 as others - all fine. but sticking arounnd as a user? [18:19] why is a user running a persistant copy of the init system? [18:19] Kireji, yes, systemd can run as a user to manage user-specific services. [18:20] and not exit? [18:20] So you can actually launch and manage services with systemd, as your user, without root. [18:20] Kireji, it's a daemon, it doesn't exit. [18:20] *sigh* I guess I can't stay with initd, can I? [18:20] Kireji, I don't see why it matters. [18:20] I've just avoided this "upgrade" for a long time [18:21] How much RAM is it using, after all? [18:21] don't care [18:21] so every user that's logged on will have a systemd --user instance running? [18:21] I didn't set up any user-specific services for this user [18:22] Kireji, Not sure. [18:22] I haven't actually used much --user services myself. [18:22] Kireji, also init run as root (/sbin/init) and user pid blah blah Ss 06:28 0:00 init --user [18:22] hey all, just a question. Okay listen: is it possible to make a square fading animation in compton? [18:22] with squares i mean not fading in the whole window at once, but from every edge into the middle [18:23] Kireji, ps aux | grep systemd [18:24] ioria: initd worked fine [18:24] Kireji, yep [18:24] now there's two separate systems for init [18:24] yeah im stuck [18:24] https://postimg.org/image/x28vlhfyp/ [18:24] https://postimg.org/image/9cjfwshld/ [18:24] that's my gparted [18:24] it's spoopy === n7 is now known as zsolesz === zsolesz is now known as zsoleszmolesz [18:25] stranglerfish_, were you using LVM or LUKS or something in Fedora? Your partitions are mapped [18:26] GRRRR RTFM, and get to bolface "CONCEPTS" we already know it's going to be a shitshow. === zsoleszmolesz is now known as jancsika [18:26] stranglerfish_, also, you're using BIOS, not UEFI, right? [18:27] pretty sure i've set it to legacy mode yeah [18:27] and i have no idea what i was doing in Fedora lol when i installed i had it set to automatically configure partitioning [18:27] stranglerfish_, it seems that your Fedora partitions are in a layer inside /dev/sda7 [18:27] i just want a nice clean table [18:27] with Windows and it's useless recovery partitions and Ubuntu [18:28] such a headache :'( [18:28] But it's strange that it doesn't recognize it as LVM, since I'm guessing that's what it is. [18:28] you could install grub on usb stick if worried about boot issues [18:28] So I made a mistake and removed isc-dhcp-client and now ifup doesnt work. It reports that there is no dhcp software installed. All of my interfaces are static so I shouldn't need dhcp. How do I fix? [18:28] stranglerfish_, well, you can delete the fedora root and swap, assuming there's nothing you need on there. [18:28] nothing at all, i backed up what i need [18:28] so i can safely delete those then? [18:29] stranglerfish_, yeah, that's just the fedora install [18:29] and to delete it [18:29] should i just format it as ext4? [18:29] just delete space [18:29] tr0gd0r: are you using /etc/network/interfaces? [18:29] Yes [18:29] tr0gd0r: canyou pastebin that file, if so, and the output exactly from `ifup` ? [18:30] i dont see an actual "delete" option [18:30] grow your other partion probably better ? [18:30] hi, how to work with services in ubuntu 16.04? [18:31] strangelerfish right mouse > delete [18:31] i can't start the tor service with sudo systemctl start tor [18:31] right mouse does nothing [18:31] all i can do is select "Change" [18:31] Since i dont have a network connection I cannot paste it but i can send a screenshot [18:32] strangelerfish is it mounted ? [18:32] tr0gd0r: ok [18:32] dont see why it would be [18:32] i'm booted from a live-usb [18:32] hi [18:32] stranglerfish_, there's the minus sign, is it still greyed out when you click on a partition? [18:33] hi [18:33] n7, hi [18:34] yeah like see how it's got duplicates of root and swap? [18:34] the higher one of each does nothing [18:34] but the second one if i select it [18:34] it just makes "Change" selectable. The + and - remain greyed out [18:34] leo [18:34] http://i.imgur.com/ldY82P3.jpg [18:35] stranglerfish_, that is strange. [18:35] yeah. i'm at work atm too so i really wanna get this fixed asap but [18:35] i'm thinking i might have to hop off in the next 10 if there's no easy solution and come back on once home [18:35] just restart and start the install again [18:35] i had that problem too [18:35] newubuntuuser, of not detecting partitions correctly? really? [18:35] yes [18:35] That's interesting. [18:36] Sorry i got disconnected. Did you see the screenshot? [18:36] now, can anyone tell me [18:36] how to start a service [18:36] in ubuntu 16.04 [18:36] tr0gd0r: yes [18:36] i'm so confused [18:36] hi [18:36] newubuntuuser, systemctl start servicename [18:36] tr0gd0r: `ip addr` output [18:36] http://i.imgur.com/lmyuRXz.jpg [18:36] that doesn't work [18:36] newubuntuuser, what does it say? [18:36] i tried to start tor [18:36] and when i check the status it says [18:37] exited [18:37] hi [18:37] tr0gd0r: do you happen to have anything in /etc/network/interfaces.d ? [18:37] newubuntuuser, that means systemctl tried to start it, and tor crashed/shut down. That's tor-specific. Read it's logs. [18:37] http://i.imgur.com/ZtGyt98.jpg [18:37] o/ leo_ [18:37] the point is [18:37] this doesn't happen on my other pc [18:37] which has a different distro [18:37] i restarted the installation, no different [18:38] newubuntuuser run it directly and see what it says [18:38] newubuntuuser: how would we have known that? it's better to provide complete and accurate descriptions of your problem === Hecate is now known as Guest44954 [18:38] redwolf: hi [18:38] Sep 23 20:38:12.485 [notice] Opening Socks listener on 127.0.0.1:9050 Sep 23 20:38:12.485 [warn] Could not bind to 127.0.0.1:9050: Address already in use. Is Tor already running? [18:38] :) [18:38] Nacc that was it. I didnt notice that [18:38] this is weird [18:38] i double checked, my fedora is not mounted [18:38] Its fixed now [18:39] this makes me wanna cry lol [18:39] tr0gd0r: cool [18:39] stranglerfish you could see what fdisk does, is it lvm ? [18:39] stranglerfish_, don't :) This is interesting. what do you get if you run 'lsblk -f' ? [18:40] bluntharry, I'm fairly sure his sda7 is an LVM PV, since it matches the collective size of root and swap. [18:40] http://pastebin.com/qL2TYQsG [18:40] Ahah I was right [18:41] see lsblk is giving a much more useful display [18:41] So, perhaps you should use lvremove to delete them. [18:41] i don't know how to do that [18:42] stranglerfish_, run 'lvdisplay' it should show a list of Logical Volumes. [18:42] do i just do [18:42] Which should be your root and swap [18:43] so would i do something like [18:43] lvremove /dev/fedora/root [18:43] ? [18:44] looks like it yes, and since you have no otherlvm parts there isnt much to fuck up [18:45] k so now those are at least removed [18:45] any idea what's up with the like 8mb of free space sitting in the middle? [18:45] I woudl then suggest top grow the size of the root part of your distro , depending on who you want to give space 2 [18:46] i think for now i'm gonna start packing up to head home. does anyone here who has been following along with my problem think they'll be around in about 2 hours? [18:46] It takes me almost 2 hours to get home but it would be sweet if someone here was still around and willing to help :P [18:46] maybe but this is pretty basic stuff , sure you will be fine [18:47] i think i'm just very flustered and overwhelmed cause this is like the 10th time i've had it happen where instead of just a simple install I encountered several obstacles that added hours and hours of troubleshooting -_- [18:47] makes u learn :P [18:48] like it took me several hours to actually get into this usb boot, all cause apparently using unetbootin was the wrong thing to do and i had to use fedora live-usb [18:48] Hey [18:48] anywho, i'm gonna head out now. if i can't get it on my own i'll pop back in later [18:48] Hey [18:48] I have a problem with wireshark [18:48] It does not allow capturing interfaces [18:49] and when I run it as root it gives me error [18:49] chromium suddenly stopped working, it renders just black-white nonsense [18:49] tried google-chrome as well [18:49] same shit [18:49] any ideas why?? [18:50] v3n0m, http://askubuntu.com/questions/74059/how-do-i-run-wireshark-with-root-privileges/74064 [18:50] Okay [18:50] Let me try === the_ant1 is now known as the_ant [18:52] has anyone here had any luck jumping through the hoops necessary to boot into memtest86+ on a newer machine with uefi? [19:00] I have xubuntu 16.04, and I can see memtest86+.bin in my /boot directory, but nothing I tried has worked. I did chmod +x /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ and update-grub which didn't do anything. I've tried multiple different ways to make a bootable memtest86+ usb drive, which also failed. And I used grub-imageboot to try to boot from the memtest86+.iso i downloaded from the website. [19:01] I'm just not sure if the source of my problem is the fact i have a newer computer with uefi, or because i have ubuntu installed on an encrypted lvm so memtest doesn't know what to do with that? But if that's the case then at least the bootable usb should work [19:01] dustyp90, the install disk has memtest86 and you shouldnt have to change anything to have it run [19:01] memtest86+ has a uefi boot option [19:01] compdoc, it doesn't show up in my grub boot menu, and any attempt i've made to fix that hasn't worked [19:02] bah [19:02] hah [19:02] just download a fresh copy of the desktop or server version, and burn it to a dvd or usb stick and boot it [19:02] I have /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ and it looks like it's right, but if I do update-grub it doesn't show that it found memtest86+ [19:03] or better yet, d/l memtest86+ directly [19:03] wtf us rulz [19:03] compdoc, tried that. Can't get it to work from a usb. Only thing I haven't tried is burning to cd instead but idk why that would matter [19:04] well, those iso files are made for that [19:04] compdoc, for cd? [19:06] MemTest86 V5 (and later) images supports dual booting (UEFI/BIOS) [19:06] dustyp90, yeah, cd or dvd [19:07] dustyp90: OerHeks: Only the proprietary fork of Memtest86 supports UEFI. The Free memtest86+ does not. [19:07] x86_64 [19:07] i386 [19:07] nie [19:07] nite [19:08] hi [19:09] thyjew: Please keep discussion in this channel to productive Ubuntu support only. Further meaningless comments will lead to a ban. [19:14] Good day all [19:14] how is everyone doing today [19:14] I have a question [19:14] anyone around? [19:15] !ask [19:15] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [19:15] well im on ubunto and i installed Kali tools using Katoolin [19:15] however i installed two menus and do not know how to uninstall or remove the other one [19:16] Kali is beyond the scope of this channel, find the kali channel for support please. [19:17] I don't need kali help [19:17] but ok [19:19] hello [19:19] someone? [19:20] !ask | iustin [19:20] iustin: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [19:30] I'v reinstalled VirtualBox, the Kernel and Kernel headers multiple times. It's still dead. [19:30] bash: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: No such file or directory [19:31] What gives? [19:31] TheNH813: Apparently not an init daemon. Documentation? [19:32] TheNH813: Perhaps it is a systemd.service now? [19:32] But, the VirtualBox documentation says to use /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup to build the drivers. Guess I'l check systemd. [19:33] TheNH813: you could also try /sbin/rcvboxdrv [19:33] TheNH813: See also #vbox [19:33] bash: /sbin/rcvboxdrv: No such file or directory [19:33] !vbox [19:33] Hm... yeah I might try #vbox [19:33] Virtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox [19:39] I have a feeling that everyone on #vbox is hiding. LOL [19:40] Gonna try a mass search for files tha thave "Vbox" in the name. [19:41] Nope, it dosen't exist. Guess It's a manual drivers build then. [19:41] Lots of files in /usr/src though, that happen to be the drivers source. [19:43] Hey! Now i'm getting somewhere. Make reported an error: "ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid. Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it." [19:44] Well, now it all makes sense. I need the FULL kernel source package. [19:44] AND it has to be configured [19:45] monoloque night? [19:45] Bonsoir [19:45] hi jean-philippe [19:45] Qui es tu ? [19:46] Bonsoir à toi [19:46] !fr [19:46] Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [19:46] Thes channel is english only, please. I am fine, how are you? [19:46] TheNH813: I believe you should not need to be compiling from source yourself (manually) [19:47] Yeah, I know. Maybe my system has a broke dkms config. Since the manual build complained about missing kernel configs and missng dkms, that's a big red flag. [19:48] I just REALLY need a running VM today so I though I''d give that a shot. Dosen't hurt either as it provides plenty of debug output. [19:48] why not just use kvm [19:48] install virt-manager [19:49] !kvm [19:49] kvm is the preferred virtualization approach in Ubuntu. For more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM [19:49] TheNH813: why do you really need a VM? are you on 16.04? [19:49] TheNH813, you could also try xen [19:50] What up a migos [19:50] Legacy hardware and software, that only works on XP. VBox was working brilliantly till the last kernel update, which also killed off my HDMI audio drivers! [19:50] TheNH813: ah, i see [19:51] TheNH813: go back to the last kernel and file a bug? [19:51] TheNH813, yeah, if Vbox is broken, install virt-manager or keep trying to fix :P [19:51] ppl seem so scared of kvm , we have that stuff in production , trust me it works [19:52] Can you use a .vmdk file with KVM? [19:52] vmdk is just a container [19:52] sure convert the hell outta it , heck it can even go mp3 on ur ass [19:52] bluntharry: calm down please, lets stick to realism [19:52] TheNH813, yeah np [19:52] qemu tool set works great [19:52] Does it have the host integration thing (taskbar of guest integrated with host)? That's not important, I jus tlike it. [19:53] Hey [19:53] hi [19:54] TheNH813: task bar integrated ? [19:54] can I use 16.04 without networkmanager ? [19:54] CustosL1men: yes [19:55] ikonia: Yeah, VBox has a feature tjat basically hides the desktop and places, say, the Windows taskbar on any side of the screen you want. Then draws all windows with transparency around them so they look like they're running on the host. [19:56] TheNH813, no, I don't think it does. [19:56] TheNH813: no, thats some overlay [19:56] what OS ? [19:56] TheNH813: kvm just hosts the guest and a console [19:56] TheNH813, kvm is a terminal based virtual machine [19:56] Ah, I need GUI. [19:56] TheNH813, oh it has GUI. [19:56] TheNH813, vmware? [19:56] My guest is XP Home. [19:57] kvm is not a virtual machine [19:57] TheNH813, it's just a window, is all, no fancy integration [19:57] TheNH813: there are many guis for it [19:57] and many interferaces [19:57] TheNH813, install virt-manager, you'll see. [19:57] kvm is just an inbuilt hypvervisor [19:57] 'just' lol [19:57] Well, that's pulling a lot of packages. [19:58] TheNH813: yes, thats fine [19:58] TheNH813: its the libraries and libvirt libraries to interface with it [19:58] We'l see how it goes. Anyone got a guide to move a OS from VBox to KVM and use the same emulated hardware? Network, etc? [19:59] TheNH813: just import the image/point the hypervisor at the image and start it [19:59] TheNH813, I think vbox emulates an intel e1000 NIC. [19:59] But I doubt it will have a problem. [19:59] TheNH813: you'll probably just have to tweak a few minor things like the network name it binds to etc, [19:59] Mkay. [20:05] hello [20:05] iustin, hi [20:05] Hi! [20:05] Are there any Apache experts about tonight? [20:05] Question, how does KVM handle snapshotting? [20:05] !ask | LostInApache [20:05] LostInApache: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [20:05] who knows some good compilers? [20:06] TheNH813, hi :) If you're using virt-manager, pretty much the same as Vbox. [20:06] Can it use the same format? [20:06] iustin, for what language? [20:06] TheNH813, good question. Not sure. [20:06] !compile | iustin [20:06] iustin: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall [20:06] Orherwise I have a few snapshots to merge into a new clone using vboxmange. XD [20:07] At least VBoxmanage still works. [20:07] ty guys i`m searching it right now [20:08] BRB Virt-manager is not starting as I don't have privs. Gotta relog for the adduser command to take effect. [20:08] hi. i was wondering if it's still possible to upgrade Ubuntu if your LTS version is paste its support date. [20:08] i have an old 10.04 router machine and i'm wondering if i could upgrade it or just start over fresh. [20:09] past* [20:09] sjohnson, in theory you can. With 10.04, I would personally just reinstall. [20:09] sjohnson: I wouldn't follow that process [20:10] sjohnson: the upgrade path is big [20:10] sjohnson, just backup and install 16.04. [20:10] alright, sounds good. [20:11] might be one of those jobs where you buy yourself some beer and pizza and just get it over with. [20:11] Well, I'm back. [20:12] VBoxManage is cloning all the snapshots into a new single image for KVM. [20:13] OK. I'm having a problem a fresh 16.04 Server install. Apache2 works fine inside the network, but from outside I just get timeouts. I can SSH in from outside fine. The router config is OK (hasn't changed in years) and worked fine with the prev install. GRC's ShieldsUp says nothing is listening on port80 (stealth). UFW is off, iptables are empty when I've turned off Fail2Ban. Apache conf is pretty much default, as is 16.04 Serv [20:14] Did you check the internal configuration? Routing tables, software firewall (if applicable), etc. [20:14] Sounds like Ubuntu Server needs a setting flipped. [20:14] LostInApache: can you telnet to port 80 from outside [20:14] Windows update appears to have broken grub, I get a partition not found error. I ran boot-repair from live usb, no difference. I tried the sudo grub-install /dev/sdb but it says "failed to find canonical path of '/cow'" [20:15] no, it doesn't sound like anything to do with ubuntu [20:15] ikonia: when you say that the upgrade path is big... do you mean it might fail and/or take a really damn long time to do it? [20:15] Raccoon1400: You're going to need a chroot. [20:15] And do it manually. [20:15] sjohnson: I mean you have to jump through a lot of versions, and your apps will make a big version jump, so likley new configs will be needed [20:15] I'l step you through, do you have the Live USB booted. [20:16] !grub2 | Raccoon1400 [20:16] Raccoon1400: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [20:16] Raccoon1400: Is the live USB Booted? [20:16] Raccoon1400: ther is a step by step guide in the link ubottu just gave you [20:16] ikonia: yeah, i'm almost wondering if that's preferred over having to start over and re-setup dhcp and the routing rules all from scratch (among other things) [20:16] Yes, I can SSH in from outside fine. Software fire wall UFW is off. I've checked all the Apache configs looking for something that would block external addresses but allow internal, but I've come up blank. [20:17] LostInApache: thats not what I asked [20:17] LostInApache: re-read the question [20:17] sjohnson: who said anything about dhcp and routing ? we have no idea of his setup [20:17] I'm doing that, just mounted the linux partition on the drive, it says it is read only... [20:17] how can i reduce application size ? [20:18] r121: example ? [20:18] which run on ubuntu [20:18] You LostInApache: You sure the router dosen't need a new exception? Could the MAC address or host name associated with the open port itn the router's config be changed? [20:18] r121: can you give an example of what you want to do [20:18] I'v had that happen before. A new network card or r machien name can do it. [20:19] I created a application using qt Creater but folder size of library is of size around 60 MB which is huge. My application is very small. [20:19] TheNH813: why does it say the linux partition is read only when I try to mount it? How to I get around that? [20:20] r121: is the library something you've made or a standard one === everton_ is now known as Guest7222 [20:20] ikonia: Application basically used one 40x40 array and some manipulation to that array [20:20] ikonia : It comes with Qt creater standard library [20:20] Raccoon1400: Sorry, connection dropped, I'm back. [20:20] r121: so does the runtime depend on that library ? [20:21] Raccoon1400: What did you say agiain? [20:21] ikonia : yes it used this as shared library [20:21] I [20:21] r121: then how do you expect to shrink it ? you've put a dependency on a library that is a certain size, how do you expect that to "shrink" [20:21] TheNH813: it says the linux partition is write protected [20:22] Raccoon1400: Mkay. So, unmount it for now. [20:22] ikonia: I am asking same question to you. what is the possible solution [20:22] stop using the library [20:22] thats the solution [20:22] Raccoon1400: Then, mount it as /mnt [20:23] ikonia: without library how my application works?? [20:23] Raccoon1400: For example "sudo mount /dev/sd* /mnt" [20:23] I'm having a problem with my sound settings here. I can't adjust it no matter what. I've tried going through the sound settings, yet it still would not let me do anything. Furthermore, I've also tried using the Fn keys to no avail. Any ideas to fix this? [20:23] r121: you need to re-write it to not depend on the library [20:23] Ikona: Ah! I see. No I get a Connection Refused error. [20:23] Raccoon1400: Make sure to replace * with the drive in question. [20:23] ikonia: Qt dont provide static linking [20:23] LostInApache: so there is your answer [20:23] LostInApache: it's nothing to do with ubuntu, [20:23] r121: you either use the library and suffer the dependencies, or you don't, and you write your own library basicaly [20:23] Raccoon1400: Like sda1 if that was the OS partition. [20:23] r121: if you're using dynamic linking, why do you care how large the library is? [20:23] LostInApache: your network router is not translating that external IP port 80 to internal IP port 80 [20:24] TheNH813: hmm, looks like the linux partition got wiped somehow. [20:24] It is just unallocated space [20:24] Type "sudo blkid" [20:24] nacc: when user download this application this size is huge for them. not huge too huge [20:24] Raccoon1400: Then pastebin it. [20:25] r121: why would your application's size change due to a dynamically loaded application? make it a dependency proper and don't package it yourself? [20:25] r121: you just said it's not statically linked [20:26] TheNH813: The router port forward setup has been the same for years (since the 14.04 server was installed). However, I've deleted the rules and readded them. No change. [20:26] nacc: library will not available in user machine so i have to send this with binary [20:26] r121: no, you say it's a dependency? [20:26] r121: or package your application properly [20:27] nacc : I just run my application with shell script and binary and library folder . I didnt packed it yet [20:28] Raccoon1400: You there? [20:28] nacc : now you are confusing me between library and dependencies [20:28] LostInApache: Hm.... unsure what to suggest then. [20:28] r121: i think we're outside the scope of ubuntu support at this point. You've basically hit the basis for packages, afaict [20:28] TheNH813: if the linux partition is turned into unallocated space that is my issue. I'll need to reinstall. Don't know how that happened [20:28] Raccoon1400: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid" [20:29] Raccoon1400: Ah, ok [20:29] exit [20:29] nacc : how much size is reduced after packaged it to deb? [20:29] now its around 60MB [20:29] pastebin.com/rimTSCQb [20:30] Raccoon1400: If the disk went unallocated for some reason. I'd immediately run smartctl and make sure the drive isnt' dying. [20:30] r121: i never said it would be reduced, per se. but you're not using the existing tooling to satisfy dependencies. You defintiely should not be shipping libraries youreslf [20:30] TheNH813: it is a fairly new SSD [20:30] this happened just after major windows update [20:31] Ah, ok. So /dev/sdc1 is inreadable? [20:31] *unreadable [20:31] As I'm assuming Xubuntu 16.04 is the OS is question. [20:32] Raccoon1400: In that case quess only a reinstall could fix it. Unless FSCK can recover it. [20:32] TheNH813: This install was just a recovery partition. It is the windows I really need to get working [20:34] If you really need Windows, and the Windows partition is not corrupt, try the Windows boot repair. [20:34] r121: but regardless of that, if you depend on library X and library X has size Y, then wehther you package it up or the user already has it, Y bytes will be taken up on their system. It doesn't make sense (to me) to take up 2Y bytes (system installation + your local one) -- so just use the system installed one, and if it's not there, ask the user to install it [20:34] Raccoon1400: Off the Windows install disk. It'l kill GRUB but get Win to boot, [20:34] Has anyone tried G-Sync monitor on dual monitor setup where another monitor just isn't G-Sync capable? Trying to get G-Sync to work on new monitor without a luck :| [20:35] eraggo: Can't say I have. I never used G-Sync. [20:35] TheNH813: tried that too, I get this message "it looks like you started an upgrade then booted from installation media. If you want to continue the upgrade, remove the media from your PC and click yes. If you want to perform a clean install instead, click no" [20:35] Raccoon1400: Hm.... is it an update to Windows 10? [20:36] Because that's what the message points to. [20:36] it has been on win10 for a while, but it just installed major updates [20:36] Like a service pack? [20:36] Single monitor works fine but i hate to put things back to dual monitor setup back === chirayunix_ is now known as chirayunix [20:37] Then I guess your options are to Reinstall Linux to get GRUB working or reinstall Windows and Linux. [20:37] Of which the latter is bad news, and the former is a mild annoyance. [20:38] Provided there are backups (I hope you keep them). [20:38] nacc : Now i got it. how do I install qt library in my user computer before installing my application ? [20:38] r121: would depend on the qt library... [20:38] Parts of QT should be installed by default, it depends what you need. [20:38] nacc: where to put that command to install that dependencies first [20:40] r121: If you're creating a .deb package, it would go in the dependencies list of the .deb package itself. [20:40] r121: a guide? your control script, or make it a proper deb and put it in the control file [20:41] nacc: any standard link for deb packaging? [20:42] r121: what kind of application is this? tbh, depending on what you're doing, you may want to consider snapping (not meant to be a political statement, it's just much easier than .deb packaging) [20:42] guuys [20:42] ikonia: router rules all fine, however rebooting the router seems to have sorted it. Cheers for your help! [20:42] i can`t debug a program in codeblocks [20:42] nacc: thank you guys . you are awesome :) [20:42] r121: Here's how Debian does it. Couldn't find a link for Ubuntu is specific yet. I'l keep looking. https://wiki.debian.org/HowToPackageForDebian [20:43] TheNH813: it's basically the same for Ubuntu [20:44] nacc: Yeah, pretty much. [20:47] I think I'm gonna backup my OS. [20:47] Boot into a Live USB and mksquashfs the entire OS partition. [20:47] Then I can simply extract it to recover. [20:48] <_maxiwll> Hello [20:48] _maxiwll, hi [20:52] hi all [20:52] sefai, hi [20:53] h are you bro [20:53] sefai, good thanks. Did you need help with something? [20:56] my os kali-linux on vbox , im trying to use airmon-ng , i already got wlan downloaded , and im using root , when i type airmon-ng i got this ls: cannot access /sys/class/ieee80211/: No such file or directory [20:57] !kali | csjdf [20:57] csjdf: Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux) [20:57] csjdf: neither kali-os nor wifi hacking are the focus of this channel [20:58] my problem isnt on os , its on tools [20:59] csjdf: tools for kali linux, right? [20:59] its on ubuntu too [20:59] csjdf: ask the kali guys. this is ubuntu support. thanks [20:59] in all linux [21:00] csjdf: then ask in ##linux [21:00] i cant send message there [21:00] !register | csjdf [21:00] csjdf: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode [21:00] i already registed [21:01] csjdf: Did you do the email confirmation of the registration? [21:01] i verified [21:01] csjdf: you need to login after every new connection to freenode. any more questions to this please in #freenode [21:07] Can anyone here help me get my bytcr-rt5640 audio card working on my tablet i'm using ubuntu 16.04 [21:12] ya'll know of an easy way to download a full youtube playlist [21:12] zartarr: youtube-dl has a playlist option [21:12] check the man page [21:13] for mp4\s like full videos? [21:13] yep. [21:13] i came across articles for mp3s [21:13] ah my bad [21:13] ok thanks man [21:13] any format you want, really [21:13] phenomenal [21:13] zartarr: keepvid can download youtube videos but you would have to download each video one at a time === terrex is now known as xiterrex [21:16] Hi, could someone help me understand what the following means? " Start 3 instances of the top process in the background. In a second terminal, using Linux commands, determine the PID of the 3 top command instances." [21:17] i used the top command, in Ubuntu. but it is constantly changing [21:18] Hinto: it means, "Do your own homework." [21:18] heh [21:19] I'm not asking, for the solution. I am simply asking for what the question itself is asking. If you're trying to act smart, you might as well read what I wrote first [21:19] My english is not the best, so i'm having trouble with the question. [21:20] Hinto: start a process, then look at what pid it got. [21:21] k1l: But what does it mean by the 3 top command instances? [21:22] top is a program [21:22] Hinto: start "top" 3 times [21:22] man top [21:23] yes, but when I use top one of the first 3 things is xorg. and the assignment tells me to kill the top 3 also. seems unreasonable to kill xorg [21:23] Hinto: no. start 3 programs, then look in another terminal what pid they got. [21:23] Hinto: Not "top 3" but "3 top", as in, /usr/bin/top, /usr/bin/top, and last, but not least, /usr/bin/top [21:24] Flannel: ohh, okay. thank you so much. that makes a lot of sense. [21:25] nicomachus: youtube-dl --extract-audio --audio-format mp3 (how would i change i to just download the best quality video) === cigumo_ is now known as cigumo [21:26] hello [21:27] how do I install a deb file because the software center obviously can't do it [21:27] CuriousErnestBro: Why "cant the software center do it"? [21:28] it says it's done, but it isnt [21:28] CuriousErnestBro: What are you actually trying to do that leads you to installing a deb? [21:28] the application is nowhere [21:28] installing slack [21:28] !info slack [21:28] slack (source: slack): configuration management program for lazy admins. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15.2-7 (xenial), package size 30 kB, installed size 170 kB [21:28] no [21:28] slack.io [21:28] i mean [21:28] slack.com [21:29] CuriousErnestBro: And why do you think it isnt installed correctly? [21:29] the search doesnt find it [21:29] CuriousErnestBro: Forget the search, or wait 24 hours at least :) [21:30] CuriousErnestBro: So did you look at the package content yet? [21:30] no [21:30] should I ? [21:30] CuriousErnestBro: Thats the first thing to do then. Obviously. [21:30] To see where that package installs things to. [21:30] like i could tell lmao [21:31] CuriousErnestBro: "package content" == "list of files". [21:31] I bet you will identify that, after you stopped laughing. [21:31] i know that [21:31] but looking at a bunch of file names doesnt really help [21:31] It perfectl does. [21:31] *perfectly. [21:31] control.tar.gz, data.tar.xz, debian-binary [21:32] Since if those files exist on your system, the package is installed correctly. [21:32] im just reading the deb file [21:33] software center says "slack-desktop" is installed as a add on [21:33] Forget that software center :) [21:33] dpkg-deb -c your.deb [21:33] there's a bunch of files [21:34] And if these files exist on your system, the package is installed correctly. [21:34] how do I run the program if it doesnt show up in search? [21:35] CuriousErnestBro: Open a terminal, enter the name of the binary you want to start - add the full path, if needed. [21:37] there is no slack binary [21:37] Then you cannot run it. [21:37] lrwxrwxrwx root/root 0 2016-08-26 22:48 ./usr/bin/slack -> ../lib/slack/slack [21:37] what does this mean [21:37] And the search will not show a slack binary to run. [21:38] That means that ./usr/bin/slack is linked to ../lib/slack/slack [21:38] what are links, and will those help me? [21:38] CuriousErnestBro: Pastebin the entire output of the command above please. [21:38] !pastebin | CuriousErnestBro [21:38] CuriousErnestBro: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [21:39] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23222048/ [21:40] CuriousErnestBro: And whats the problem in running "/usr/bin/slack" now? [21:40] cd /usr/bin [21:40] CuriousErnestBro: No. [21:40] ./slack [21:41] CuriousErnestBro: /usr/bin/slack [21:41] -bash: ./slack: No such file or directory === Zipper is now known as Guest34493 [21:41] -bash: /usr/bin/slack: No such file or directory [21:41] -bash: /usr/bin/slack: No such file or directory [21:41] wait [21:42] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23222058/ [21:42] CuriousErnestBro: To typing that crap please :) [21:43] CuriousErnestBro: Open a terminal and run: /usr/bin/slack [21:43] CuriousErnestBro: if that doesnt work, run: /usr/lib/slack/slack [21:43] same output [21:44] CuriousErnestBro: If that doesnt work, too, contact the packagers of the deb you installed, and tell them their package is somehow - weird :) [21:44] CuriousErnestBro: No "cd /usr/bin/slack", but just "/usr/bin/slack". [21:44] yes [21:44] i did that [21:44] now [21:45] how to install a deb from command line? because software center should ask me for password but didnt [21:45] CuriousErnestBro, sudo dpkg -i package.deb [21:46] nice [21:46] it worked thanks [21:47] search now finds it [21:49] is there a way to differentiate between thinkpad trackpoint speed and an attached usb mouse speed? [22:02] anyone have any good guides for how to restore tar-based backups of an ubuntu system? I'm looking to backup my 14.04 install and upgrade to 16.04, but I want to verify I can actually boot my backup first [22:02] following this guide:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR and I got to the second on restoring grub, but there doesn't seem to be any information about restoring on a uefi system [22:03] zanakyn: you cant create a bootable backup using tar. [22:04] bekks: that's not what this backup guide I linked seems to imply [22:04] zanakyn: Maybe youÄre better of just creating a disk image then? [22:04] yeah, I was going to go with dd originally, and figured maybe this was a better option (smaller backup archive size, don't need to backup the empty partition space) [22:06] i guess i'm not super worried about different techniques, but my ubuntu partition shares a drive with a windows install, and I don't want to image the entire disk [22:10] zanakyn, clonezilla is nice too. [22:11] lordcirth: thanks, i'll take a look [22:17] anyone have experience with ubuntu on a manufactured desktop? [22:18] some do :) [22:18] Keydns, what do you mean by a "manufactured desktop"? You mean a retail PC? [22:18] are there any parameters i should be aware of k1l? [22:19] a desktop built buy a company as a whole for shipment to myself, yeah [22:19] no agpx4 or sata1 [22:20] Keydns, make sure your graphics card is well-supported [22:20] OerHeks, thanks [22:20] http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/ [22:20] oh [22:21] Of course, just because it's not certified doesn't mean it won't work. I don't think I've ever owned anything on that list. [22:22] but for Skylake and such, the next month release 16.10 is important with the 4.8 kernel [22:23] ok, something else i want to know... raid 0 plus another ssd, what would i need to give me an option for dual boot at startup? [22:23] You'd need a hardware raid controller- [22:24] so the raid controller would give me a screen with boot option configurations? [22:24] Keydns: No. [22:24] didn't think so [22:24] Keydns: Thats the job of the bootloader. [22:25] which is stored on the motherboard? [22:25] No. [22:25] The boot loader is stored on the disk you chose to install it to. [22:25] maybe it'd be more helpful if you state what your goal is. what system configuration would you like to have, and we can offer some advice [22:26] i am considering buying a new desktop with a raid 0 (2 156ssd) and another 156ssd . i want linux on the singular ssd and windows factory installed onto the raid 0 [22:26] :) [22:27] 256GB, there are no 156GB SSD :) [22:27] er, 128? [22:27] also, the raid 0 setup sounds kind of silly imo. but if thats all you're trying to do, i think its honestly pretty simple [22:27] regardless of size that is what i want to do [22:28] raid0 is pretty silly, for the OS. [22:28] If one disk fails, you will lose the entire OS. [22:28] how does windows install on raid0? [22:28] you'll just pop in an ubuntu live cd and follow the installation instructions. it SHOULD see windows on your machine, but it may not if you don't boot in uefi mode (i think) [22:28] im willing to let the windows disks go.. but so will the one linux disk [22:28] OerHeks: Only with a hardware raid adapter. [22:28] doh! [22:28] anyway, grub on your ssd and bios set to that ssd, done [22:29] and before you shell out money for these pre-installed drives, consider that you can buy 256gb SSDs new for ~80 dollars each [22:29] made by whom? [22:29] Keydns: Which ever HD you've set your bios to boot to, needs to contain the boot loader. [22:29] https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX200-250GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B00RQA6DTE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474669780&sr=8-1&keywords=crucial+mx200 [22:30] thats 250gb not 256, but close enough :P [22:30] Keydns: LSI, Areca, 3ware... [22:30] im like a light computer maker hobbyist except ive only made two computer in the last 10 years [22:31] never heard of those [22:31] Keydns: Because those arent for hobbyists :) [22:31] im going to look them up bekks [22:33] since we're on the topic of bootloaders; i'm trying to understand how to reinstall grub myself for restoring that backup i was talking about earlier. currently I have 1 ssd w/ windows & ubuntu on it. I have another drive I want to put a fresh partition on and test my backup there, without altering the ubuntu install its based on. can I have grub installed separately on both drives? the important point is just which drive i set t [22:33] o boot from, right? [22:33] Just a question, is there any sort of dedicate channels for complete and utter noobs? I don't want to flood the chat with endless questions and take away from the big ones :( [22:33] checking out this debian guide: https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall and I want to make sure if I run through the steps, i'm not going to overwrite some entry for my existing bootloader (which is on a separate drive) [22:34] bekks you've shed new light on my computer knowledge [22:35] zanakyn: If you have boot loaders on different drives, you will need to tell the bios to look at one or the other. So it would cause you to have to change bios settings or bring up the bios boot options in order to choose which boot loader you want to use. [22:36] thanks usr13. i figured i'd be doing something like that, but I figure'd i'd just be changing the boot order of the drives. is there a separate setting you're talking about, or is the boot order what I'm looking to adjust? [22:36] zanakyn: ... but one is always set as default, so ... [22:36] Israel is a Jewish ghetto fortress on the Suez Canal from which no one ever gets extradited. No more POGROMS: the Jewish criminals just flee to Israel. [22:37] zanakyn: The best way to handle booting multiple OS's is to simply put one boot loader on one drive and set that drive as default. [22:38] when you say set that drive as the default, do you mean i need to somehow tell it what my default bootloader is? or I just need to set that drive as the "first option" to boot from? [22:38] sorry, i'm a little thick-headed :P [22:39] zanakyn: .... and you use the boot loader to choose which OS to boot each time you start your computer. In the boot laoder options, you should set your favorite one as default. [22:39] ust a question, is there any sort of dedicate channels for complete and utter noobs? I don't want to flood the chat with endless questions and take away from the big ones :( [22:39] zanakyn: "first option" [22:39] Hiigaran, not that i know of, but you can ask one question at a time here\ [22:40] i see, ok. so there's no like... global registry for grub settings that I need to worry about overwriting? every instance of grub across different drives is its own independent bootloader? [22:40] Hiigaran: Not really. This is #ubuntu and is for any / all ubuntu related support questions. [22:41] usr13: It's more minecraft related, but I am running my server on ubuntu, I just don't know how to do anything because I am an extreme linux novice.. [22:41] sounds like now's the time to learn then, Hiigaran [22:41] Hiigaran: We are here to exchange information. The key to getting good information is carfully crafted questions, or you refine them as you go. [22:43] Hiigaran: In other words, you ask the right question(s), you get the information you need. [22:44] Where to even begin @_@ [22:44] usr13: sorry to bug, but you seem to know the answers haha. was my point above about multiple grub installs across different drives correct? trying to make sure I have a solid understanding before I go replacing my install with 16.04 [22:44] I am told that running applications via nohup as opposed to tmux is bad, is this true? [22:44] Hiigaran: State what you actually want to do, e.g. [22:45] I have a minecraft server running on a linux box that I inherited. I run the previous owners commands by pressing up in the putty command line window. I run the minecraft application via the nohup command. My goal is to see if this process can be improved, and if my monitoring utility, McMyAdmin, can somehow be repaired or restarted, for easier managing. [22:45] That is my goal =D [22:46] Hiigaran: looks like you're trying to run your server and then log out, and have your server keep running? it seems like nohup would be fine to that unless you need to kill the server and restart it. at that point, you'd need to log back in and run something like top or htop, and terminate the server [22:46] if my understanding is correct, anyway [22:46] zanakyn: I do not know *all* the answers. But the only way I know how to answer your question about multiple instances of grub on different HD's is to repeat what I said before: The best way to handle booting multiple OS's is to simply put one boot loader on one drive and set that drive as default. [22:48] i think i get what youre saying now. in that case, that's what I already have. but i need to make a new partition on another drive to test restoring my backup. how can I get my existing grub install to recognize that partition, then, as a bootable ubuntu installation? [22:48] and thanks for your help, seriously ;) [22:48] er :) [22:48] wink somehow makes that creepy :P [22:48] zanakyn: Only one boot loader is easiest, simpliest. [22:49] zanakyn, any experience with any of the minecraft stuff? [22:49] I do not even know where to begin. [22:49] yeah a bit. i ran a basic minecraft server on my ubuntu desktop so my wife and i could play together [22:50] it was pretty much the bare install of the game with a few mods, though [22:52] zanakyn, can you save me @_@ [22:53] Hiigaran, the best-practice thing to do, would be to write a .service file for Minecraft, (or google one) and enable it as a service. [22:53] What does that me [22:53] mean* [22:53] haha maybe? i think you should start by trying to understand what the commands you're running are doing. its probably pretty simple [22:54] i'm betting you're just telling the minecraft executable to start & listen for connections endlessly until you shut the machine down [22:54] Hiigaran: lordcirth is talking about systemd service script. [22:55] Hiigaran: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units [22:55] Hiigaran, systemd manages system services. If all you want is to start your Minecraft program at boot automatically, and keep it running, that's what systemd is for. [23:05] Why dosen't MTP work as root? [23:06] I need to transfer a file over MTP, as root, but MTP devices don't shot up in Nautilus as root. [23:06] TheNH813: open Nautilus as root [23:06] I did. The MTP device does not show up. [23:08] Any advice on why it wouldn't work? [23:09] When I type "mtp://[usb:001,011]/" I get the error "Sorry could not display the contents of usb:001,011]/, operation not supported (mtp). How do I forcibly enable it? [23:09] why root [23:09] Because I have a device which I flashed a Ubuntu image to, and I need to access files as root. [23:10] It's an ARM dev board, similar to an android tablet but without the screen. [23:11] that doesn't really make sense, why can't you copy with your normal user then do whatever you want as root after [23:11] It has two running OSes, Android and Ubuntu. I intend to transfer files that have root permissions to the Android partition, which is encrypted. The easiest way to do this is with Android itself, which as I said the MTP is set up to allow root access on the flash.. [23:12] It's just that MTP dosen't want to work on my PC as root. I'm installing binaries into the system bin folder of Android. [23:12] Just need MTP to work as root in Nautilus. [23:13] Or maybe I'l f ind another FM that supports mtp. [23:13] still doesn't make sense [23:17] Ok, the dev board is running android as root, and I need to transfer ARM compiled executable files that have root ownership, to the binary folder on android. To be able to read said files from my account on Ubuntu on my PC, I have to use sudo nautilus. I intend to copy these files over MTP to the dev board dual booting Android and Ubuntu. To copy a file with root privilages, bith devices need the MTP transfer to occur as [23:17] root. I have that sorted on Android, but Nautilus on Ubuntu on my PC, seems to block the mtp:// protocol as root. [23:20] Isn't anti-racism little more than a scheme to prevent White people from defending themselves against the Holohoaxing Chosen Ones? [23:20] Basically, the files are owned by root and not readable by other groups, and they have to say that way. But Nautilus reports and error if you try to open a mtp:// url if Nautilus was stated with sudo. [23:20] ndh [23:20] hey [23:20] could i ask a question about the bootloader install [23:20] What? [23:20] You don't need to ask, just ask. :D [23:21] when installing ubuntu alongside windows it installs grub,right ? [23:21] Yes [23:21] incase something went wrong with grub [23:21] PotatoBoi, Ubuntu always installs grub unless you tell it not to. [23:21] lordcirth got it [23:21] incase i wanted to boot directly from the windows efi loader,would that still be possible ? [23:21] or grub would override everything ? [23:22] I'm uncertain, but if GRUB didn't work and you need to boot Windows, the "Boot Repair" option of a Windows disk will fix it. [23:22] PotatoBoi, the efi files will still be there, as I understand it. But I don't own an UEFI machine myself. [23:22] If you can get into the EFI console, yeah you could probably boot them. [23:22] thanks for the help [23:22] will tell you all how the install will go [23:23] Good luck, hope everything goes well and you have a nice shiny new install of Ubuntu alongside Windows. [23:25] user name & password ubuntu mate live usb ? [23:27] Shouldn't have a password. That usually means the disk is corrupt. [23:27] You may need to redownload it. [23:27] Try the "integrity check" option at boot and check for errors. [23:28] If errors are reported, redownload it. Did you verify the MD5Sum after download? [23:28] no [23:29] That's ok. Just reboot the Live os and select "integrity check" or "check disk for errors" at the boot screen. [23:29] TheNH813, md5sums ??? md5sum have been hackable for 10 years [23:30] LOL for passwords yes. We're checking if the file is downloaded correctly. [23:30] The Ubuntu ISO. [23:30] live session user [23:30] usb [23:30] ok i wont go there [23:31] ubuntu-mate: There shouldn't be a password. Reboot the disk and select test disk for defects intead of try ubuntu or install ubuntu. [23:31] It is generally preferred to switch to SHA256, and I think the download page provides it. [23:32] Ah, it does now? Cool. [23:32] lordcirth, that is the industry standard [23:34] does ubuntu come packaged with something like oomkiller but for CPU? [23:35] i.e. will it police my tasks. i have some task that uses 100% CPU for about 10 minutes at a time, but it seems to keep dying off on me. [23:40] ubuntu booting slow? [23:41] i don't see the splash screen, so fast === workfro is now known as fro [23:47] Its no Accident Multiculturalism has been forced on us, Scott Roberts Comments [23:57] que onda [23:57] que onda [23:58] <`Kryten`> Can anyone suggest a suitable channel to get help on DHCP servers? [23:59] #ltsp [23:59] keyten