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XINIShttp://www.dailystormer.com/fox-news-contributer-defends-hitler-calls-out-frankfurt-school-jews-as-the-root-of-our-ills/00:13
XINISBe sure to pair that with this: "Questioning The Holocaust - Why We Believed (Part 1 of 2)"00:14
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kellydaysOn September 3rd 1939, the Allies declared war on Germany, leading to the subsequent half a decade long world war. Before Chamberlain died he revealed America and World Jews forced Britain into war against Germany (mentioned in The Forrestal Diaries from 1945.)00:49
kk4ewtkellydays,  this is not the place for that00:50
eagleeyes!version00:53
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »00:53
eagleeyes!current00:53
kk4ewt16.0400:53
OerHeks25 days until 16.1000:56
owensTiOerHeks, Is 16.10 going to feel more luxurious?00:57
jmaderowhat does that even mean?00:58
owensTijmadero, More polished and opulent.00:58
OerHekswith the latest hardware you might feel better, sure.00:58
jmaderolinux is linux - if you're not happy with something, customize it00:58
jmaderoand "opulent" is a strange way to describe a distro :-)00:59
owensTiThe thing people loved about the new Mac OS was how luxurious it felt, like a high-end sedan.00:59
jmadero"people" are different, I personally hate OSX01:00
jmaderoevery flavor of it01:00
pepronipii want my distro to be very luxurious, very youge, the best in the world01:00
OerHeks'user experience' is also an endless discussion01:00
jmaderoI'd argue that Unity will never be the sleekest or "sexiest" DE01:00
jmaderobut everyone is obviously different01:01
owensTijmadero, What is holding back the developers from making it feel like a top of the line product?01:01
jmaderonothing - it does what they want it to do01:01
owensTijmadero, But you just said it will never be the best.01:01
owensTiWhich in your opinion is the Rolls Royce experience?01:02
jmaderono I didn't, I said it'd never be the sleekest or sexiest01:02
jmaderothere is a difference01:02
jmaderoI personally prefer Moksha or Enlightenment but it has a ton of annoying bugs that I work around01:02
jmaderoGnome Shell is solid also but it's a bit bloated (way less bloated than Unity) so I don't have it currently installed01:02
owensTiThat's not Rolls Royce then. Rolls is when everything is exquisitely crafted with the utmost care, attention detail, and with no expense spared.01:03
jmaderothis is a super silly comparison01:03
jmaderopeople have different desires of an OS/Distro01:03
natasha_Shayne what is your email?01:03
owensTiokay, so in your opinion luxury doesn't apply to much to OS/distro01:03
jmaderonot at all01:03
owensTibut I know Ubuntu feels much more luxurious than MS DOS.01:04
jmaderocompare DEs and find which you prefer01:04
jmaderoit's not rocket science01:04
lordcirthWhen I was running Fedora, it took a long time to get used to Gnome shell, but I actually like it quite a bit now.01:06
lordcirthRunning Kubuntu right now, I may just install ubuntu with shell sometime.01:06
jmaderoyeah I think it's nice, just super bloated and I prefer speed over GUI bells and whistles01:06
jmaderoCinnamon is also nice01:06
taseim on ubuntu xenial with multiverse enabled, I can't install the 'unrar' package, only unrar-free, shouldn't the unrar be available in multiverse?01:07
Keydnsmultiverse!01:07
angel1604ltssorry i have one problem whit ubuntu 16.04 lts when update i have this mess. W: https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.04/main/dists/xenial/InRelease: Signature by key 09D6EF97BFB38E916EF060E756A3DEF863961D39 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)01:09
Bashing-om!info unrar01:09
ubottuunrar (source: unrar-nonfree): Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:5.3.2-1 (xenial), package size 128 kB, installed size 325 kB01:09
jmaderoangel1604lts: that's not a mess01:09
lordcirthjmadero, I found it visually clean, and performance is generally not relevant on my current system.01:09
lordcirthjmadero, were I installing on a laptop, say, I'd go Openbox or dwm.01:10
jmaderolordcirth: bodhi moksha :)01:10
jmaderoUbuntu 14.04 meets Moksha/E1701:10
lordcirthjmadero, enlightenment?  Yeah it's nice.  Maybe I should try it again.01:10
angel1604ltsjmadero, this is error01:11
jmaderoMoksha now - Jeff (founder of Bodhi) spun it off because E19 was a mess01:11
tasenvm got the unrar, i had messed up my source.list file01:11
cantooyou mean the bots just stopped on freenode01:11
lordcirthjmadero, 'W:' means warning, iirc01:11
eelstrebori have a logitech webcam that works in skype but not in an online app running in chrome (voice recordings don't work)01:12
lordcirthjmadero, good to know, thanks.  Although, I remember thinking that Bodhi had the ugliest config of e17 I'd ever seen - perhaps it has changed.01:12
jmaderolordcirth: who sticks with default configurations? :-b mine is heavily moded01:13
jmaderoangel1604lts: it's server side, nothing you can do to fix that01:13
OerHeksangel1604lts, that intel ppa, tons of post online how to fix that. . https://01.org/linuxgraphics/forum/graphics-installer-discussions/new-ubuntu-16.04-packages-use-unknown-key-again01:13
jmaderoor I'm wrong :)01:13
jmaderoGoogle has a similar issue and it's just server side, they need to resolve it01:13
lordcirthjmadero, but the default config of e17 itself was way better than bodhi, which was strange.01:13
OerHeksangel1604lts,  using that repo breaks support01:13
jmaderolordcirth: they have an easy way to use about a dozen different themes - a couple of them are pretty nice. My wife uses the japanese them, looks attractive01:14
angel1604ltsthanks OerHeks01:18
lpsmithHmm, how do I install ubuntu-desktop from the command line from a live cd?01:21
flybyexx6Hi all - I need to configure sane to specify black & white apparently.. but when I try to open sane to get access to the menus it just closes down right away? What now?01:22
jmaderolpsmith: you have server version on the live cd?01:22
lpsmithThe thing is I need to conserve bandwidth,  so I don't want to download a bunch of things a second time,  and it's a ZFS install so I can't use the automatic install01:22
jmaderolpsmith: well a live cd everything is lost on reboot.....01:22
lpsmithjmadero, no unfortunately my DSL has been out for 4 weeks,  and I'm burning through mobile data01:22
lpsmithno no01:22
lpsmithI have a new desktop01:23
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lpsmithI want to install ubuntu desktop on that desktop01:23
lpsmithso I have a gui and everything01:23
jmaderoso go to a friends place and download the actual ubuntu iso and get it on a flash drive?01:23
lpsmithI have downloaded the Ubuntu 16.04 desktop live image01:23
lpsmithI've flashed it to USB01:24
probiesudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop01:24
jmaderoif there's no GUI then you probably got the server edition01:24
lpsmiththat's not on the live image01:24
TigerbloodHey. I bought some bluetooth headphones, the problem is they are only playing in mono and in Sound settings only showing as mono. Could this possibly because i have the wrong bluetooth adapter, or does that not matter?01:24
lpsmiththe ubuntu-desktop package is not on the live image01:24
lpsmithAnd no, I definitely have the desktop edition of the live cd01:24
jmaderolpsmith: so you have a GUI?01:24
lpsmithyes01:24
* jmadero is ultra confused01:25
lpsmithBut I can't use the GUI to install because it's a ZFS filesystem01:25
pinPointI just update to 4.4.0-38 kernel and now I'm at the terminal login instead of desktop login. Did my gui break?01:25
pinPointfrom 3.19.x or so01:25
jmaderooh now I'm getting there01:25
lpsmithand while I could simply apt-get install ubuntu-desktop via mobile data,  I don't have the bandwidth available to do that without paying $$01:25
jmaderoTigerblood: model of bluetooth adapter and headphones?01:25
knight_does anyone have any experience connecting an android phone to ubuntu?01:27
flybyexx6Hi folks - how to configure Xsane??01:27
pinPointknight_: connecting? remotely01:27
Tigerbloodjmadero: Do you know the command line command to find out the bluetooth adapter model?01:28
flybyexx6I apparently have to switch it to black&white - how to do this.. when starting xsane it closes down immediatly..01:28
iamawesomeHi, why is sudo better than su;password; ?01:28
probieknight_ .... ssh01:28
knight_no usb01:28
jmaderoTigerblood: this seems old but maybe something here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146424101:29
knight_i have it connected and it shows in lusb but i cant connect it with anything01:29
Tigerbloodjmadero: ive tried that :\01:30
jmaderoTigerblood: how about this http://askubuntu.com/questions/203272/no-a2dp-streaming-audio-from-12-04-to-bluetooth-headset01:31
DreamsicleHow bad of an idea is it to upgrade the kernel on an LTS release?01:32
jmaderoDreamsicle: there are risks - what does the new kernel give you that you want to risk it?01:32
OerHeksone could test mainline, for a reason.01:33
DreamsicleNothing yet, just asking in case there will be01:33
OerHekswait 25 days for Yakkety with 4.801:34
DreamsicleIf I had to guess it would deal with Nvidia related things01:34
flybyexx6when trying to open xsane I get an invalid argument fault window.. how to configure this?01:36
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pinPointbrb01:38
jmaderoDreamsicle: so I don't recommend upgrading just to upgrade, look at release notes and see if there's a real reason to do so01:38
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cantoois the sun national security for the world ?01:38
jmaderowhen I started using Linux 12 years ago I'd upgrade just for kicks and giggles, I've learned better :-b01:39
Dreamsiclejmadero if I had AMD I would have defintely upgraded01:39
DreamsicleThat 480 support would be have been great01:39
DreamsicleBut yeah I'll be fine, just wanted to understand the risks is all01:40
jmaderoyou risk not being able to boot into the system :)01:40
DreamsicleWell that's big :D01:41
jmaderoI'd definitely recommend backing up and separating home from root if you were going to do it ;)01:41
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lpsmithok, is there a relatively convenient way to install all packages on the live image, from the live image?01:48
lpsmithThat would probably work too.01:48
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Bashing-omlpsmith: As the live system runs in ram, depends on how much ram you have in order to do that .01:49
Tigerbloodjmadero: Im going to pose the question to askubuntu, so when i wake up i have a good suprise (hopefully). Do you know how to get my bluetooth adapter model. - i cant find any infomation, other than the brand name from the thing itself. Mybe a command?01:50
lpsmithBashing-om, no, I'm installing to a chroot01:51
lpsmithAlso I have 64 GB of ram, so even if that was an issue,  I have plenty01:51
cybermagehello01:52
lpsmithI'm running the live image,  and want to install all the packages on the live image to the hard disk01:52
oscaroocastroHi?01:55
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spigotanyone ever noticed some null characters (^@) printed at boot? google.... I'm not sure what google-fu I need to use to search for "^@" but both it and duckduckgo seem not to be able to parse that I'm actually looking for results including the string02:51
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Naveenhi friends03:12
Naveeni need help ...hoe to customize my login desktop, using shell script03:13
glitchdNaveen, why not use the gui to change it?03:13
Naveenhow?03:14
glitchdNaveen, what version are you on?03:14
glitchdNaveen, what version are you on?03:15
glitchdNaveen, ?03:16
Naveenubuntu 14.0403:16
glitchdNaveen, you want to change the background, or more?03:17
Naveenor more03:17
glitchdNaveen, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/45315/how-to-change-the-ubuntu-linux-login-screen/03:18
Naveenthankyou glitchd03:19
glitchdNaveen, np03:19
glitchdnavid1, the easiest way is to use ubuntu tweak sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ppa03:20
glitchdsudo apt-get update03:20
glitchdsudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak03:20
Naveenwhat is mean  np03:20
glitchdnp=no problem03:20
Naveenwell03:20
glitchdnp=no problem03:20
glitchdNaveen, install ubuntu tweak03:20
glitchdsudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ppa03:21
glitchdsudo apt-get update03:21
glitchdsudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak03:21
Naveenk....03:21
Naveenyeah....i am going on03:22
glitchdwaht does that mean?03:22
Naveennow i going to do that03:24
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skweekwhat is this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23227690/ here's the file ?03:25
skweekuserdb.txt in my home directory03:25
glitchdNaveen, ok03:26
jmaderoskweek: that shouldn't be in your home directory03:27
jmaderoyou should be able to delete it03:28
skweekwhat is it?03:28
jmaderogoogle says that it's usually in /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pyew/plugins/03:28
skweekoh03:28
skweekI was trying to google around for what it was... the first line of the file didn't pull up anything relevant or make any sense03:29
skweekpeidt and sysreveal.com ...?03:29
Naveenfri..i need help , how to run my shell script in login platform03:44
the_truth_ /msg NickServ REGISTER03:44
the_truth_ /msg NickServ SET HIDEMAIL ON03:44
the_truth_ /msg NickServ IDENTIFY03:44
glitchdNaveen, what are you trying to do?03:44
daxthe_truth_: probably you want less spaces before the /03:44
tttiHow do I do a full update on my system to reinstall everything?03:45
Naveeni will try to run my script on login page03:45
tttiI want to refresh it because I am having an issue with one app.03:45
the_truth_thank you03:45
glitchdNaveen, why would you need to run a script on the login screen/03:45
glitchd?03:45
Naveen tti sudo apt-get upgrade03:45
the_truth_Motopmjg12303:46
Bashing-omttti: What results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ' ?03:46
the_truth_Motopmjg12303:46
the_truth_1234503:46
the_truth_fuck03:46
glitchdha03:46
the_truth_first time sorry03:46
tttiBashing-om, What do you mean?03:46
tttiWhich one of those do I want?03:46
SchrodingersScatall of them03:47
glitchdNaveen, what script are you trying to run on the login screen?03:47
tttiBashing-om, They all do nothing.03:47
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ttti"0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to removed..03:47
ttti"03:47
tttietc03:47
tttiThat's not refreshing the system.03:47
glitchdttti, just reinstall?03:48
SchrodingersScatttti: what software are you having trouble with?03:48
tttiSchrodingersScat, Fruho.03:48
tttiI tried removing it completely and reinstalling it but it's not working.03:48
tttiMust be some issue with one of the config files.03:48
glitchdttti, did you purge it when you removed it?03:48
SchrodingersScatttti: that's why I'm thinking a complete system anything is maybe overkill03:48
Naveenthere using fswebcam03:49
tttiglitchd, I used Synaptic and hit Remove Completely03:49
glitchdttti, ok03:49
Bashing-omttti: "update" syncs your data base of packages with that of your miiror, "upgrade" does the actual package upgrades, and the -f .. is for "fix broken " . now if all return 0 0 0 0  then in all likely hood you have no package management problem .03:49
tttiBashing-om, Because Fruho is not a typical package so it wouldn't be tested, right?03:50
glitchdNaveen, http://askubuntu.com/questions/648412/run-script-at-login-screen03:50
SchrodingersScatttti: I would check in ~/.config or similar, you could also try find ~ -iname "*fruho*"    #and see if anything comes up03:50
tttiWhat exactly will I type?03:51
kiiany one know how to use modbus? any one has taken sat/ielts/act? any one from usa/europe?03:51
Bashing-omttti: Quite possible,  depending on how Fruho was installed, maybe the package manager is not aware of it .03:51
tttiBashing-om, I looked on my disk for "fruho"03:52
tttinothing is coming up.03:52
tttiI removed it "completely" using Synaptic.03:52
tttiBut when I reinstall it it still doesn't work right.03:52
glitchdttti, maybe sudo apt-get autoremove?03:53
the_truth_how do i change my password if I just registered and identified?03:53
glitchd ttti what errors is it giving you when you try to reinstall or use it again?03:53
tttiBut it's not listed as one of the packages that will be removed if I hit Y.03:53
tttiglitchd, The GUI is not working properly.03:53
tttiglitchd, To such an extent that I can't even use the program.03:54
glitchdttti, open it from command line and take note of any errors it gives03:54
SchrodingersScatthe_truth_: /msg nickserv help set03:54
tttiglitchd, Here's the error: http://pastebin.com/rzrz7rvv03:56
tttiWhat seems to be the problem?03:57
glitchdttti, i have no idea03:57
tttiI e-mailed Fruho support with that error03:57
glitchdttti, i think youre missing something03:57
tttiglitchd, But I installed it using the installer03:58
glitchdttti, something that program needs to launch or execute03:58
Bashing-omttti: What are you compiling ?.. and why compile from source ?03:58
SchrodingersScatthey also have a github :^)03:58
tttihttps://fruho.com/download03:58
tttiThis here. I installed the 64-bit Linux Deb.03:58
tttiIt was working just fine for many days until just an hour ago. I don't know what happened.03:59
glitchdttti, did you update or upgrade your system?03:59
glitchdttti, something obviously changed if it worked before04:00
tttiNo. I updated it yesterday but it was working fine today and between the time it was working fine and not working fine, there were no updates.04:00
glitchdttti, have you tried rebooting?04:00
tttiYes, I did reboot.04:00
glitchdsomething changed..04:01
mvmohitverma54hey people i  am new to ubuntu04:01
tttiWell, honestly, I was using Fruho just fine, then I disconnected and went to have dinner04:01
tttithen when I opened it up again to connect it was not working anymore..04:02
tttiAny ideas?04:02
tttiWhen I rebooted the last time I had Fruho installed. I figured it would work fine when I opened it after rebooting, but no.04:03
tttiNow it's not installed and I'm going to reboot and then try reinstalling it.04:03
SchrodingersScatttti: find ~ -iname "*fruho*"04:03
tttiah, I need to delete all those instances?04:04
SchrodingersScati just wanted t know if it left things behind, but that's up to you.04:04
Bashing-om!manual | mvmohitverma54 : Good place to start .04:04
ubottumvmohitverma54 : Good place to start .: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/04:04
tttifor example: /home/ME/.fruho/fruho.ini04:05
tttibut when I browse to /.fruho I don't see that directory in the file browser04:05
tttiwhy is that?04:05
SchrodingersScatttti: that makes me think maybe it stores things in .fruhu.  .directories are 'hidden' directories.04:05
tttihow to view hidden directories?04:06
glitchdcrtl+h04:06
tttii probably need to remove everything.04:06
SchrodingersScatttti: in some file browsers, ctrl-h04:06
SchrodingersScatsomewhere in the menu as well probably04:06
tttiI see it now04:06
tttiI think removing this is going to fix it04:06
glitchdprobably..04:07
tttiYes! Success.04:07
SchrodingersScatit's not supported software here anyway, afaik04:07
tttiSchrodingersScat, it's excellent software but there must be a rare bug that causes to happen what happened.04:08
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SchrodingersScatttti: now hopefully you won't immediately jump to an entire system reinstall first ;(04:08
tttiyes, good thinking.04:11
tttia completely local problem.04:11
ttticontrol-h is a powerful thing to know. shows all the hidden files and directories.04:11
Dubna_K42hi I am a newbie here04:13
Dubna_K42what is this group for? :-)04:13
the_yes_manhi Dubna_K4204:13
the_yes_manthis is the ubuntu support group. how can we help you?04:13
Dubna_K42what should I do to have basic knowledge to be able to join the technical contributors' community? ;-)04:18
the_yes_manDubna_K42, what specifically do you want to contribute to?04:19
capitaohey if I download eclipse, does it come with jdk04:20
the_yes_mani would strongly suggest you take a look here first and see what interests you. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu04:20
Bashing-omDubna_K42: Start here to build a reputatiuon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2260620&p=13206678#post13206678 .04:20
capitao???04:21
the_yes_mancapitao, i don't think you need to.04:21
the_yes_maneclipse should have its own compiler built into the ide.04:21
capitaoso if i get jGrasp, will i need to download jdk?04:22
the_yes_mani am unfamilar with jgrasp. sorry.04:22
capitaookay04:22
capitaowhat about vim?04:22
the_yes_manvim is just an editor. that is all.04:24
the_yes_mandoes not include compilers.04:24
capitaoyes but in order to compile, i will need jdk correct?04:26
TheNH813Is this WiFi chipset supported in Ubuntu? "Bus 001 Device 014: ID 0a5c:bd12 Broadcom Corp."04:26
Bashing-om!bcm | TheNH81304:27
ubottuTheNH813: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx04:27
the_yes_mancapitao, yes.04:27
capitaohow do i download jdk04:27
the_yes_manbut it must be compiled separate to using vim.04:27
capitaojjust use sudo apt get04:27
capitaoya i know04:27
capitaou can do it from the terminal04:28
the_yes_manyes04:28
capitaoi used to compile from cmd when using windows, so i figured it was the same04:28
the_yes_mancapitao, use this command to install...04:29
the_yes_man$ sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jdk04:29
the_yes_manthat should work for you.04:29
capitaoso once i have it04:30
capitaohow do i use it to copmpile04:30
the_yes_mancapitao, that is not a ubuntu question but rather a java specific question.04:30
the_yes_manas i do not use java, i can't help you beyond how to install it.04:31
capitaookay well is there a java channel?04:31
SchrodingersScat!alis | capitao04:31
ubottucapitao: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http04:31
capitaotanks goiz04:32
Dubna_K42<Bashing-om> Iam learning Python , but it seems that it is useless in developing Ubuntu?04:32
the_yes_manDubna_K42, python is not useless. it's a powerful scripting language.04:33
capitaowhy would it be useless04:33
capitaoit very handy04:33
capitaoinfact04:33
Dubna_K42ok04:33
Dubna_K42:-)04:33
capitaoit would be most useful on a linux system04:33
the_yes_manonly as powerful/useless as you code it to be.04:33
capitao^^exactly04:33
Bashing-omDubna_K42: Not at all .. python is one if the linux building blocks .04:33
capitaouse a bare-bones linux system, and then use python to automate and string together certain tasks04:34
Dubna_K42so, as for complete newbie in the universe, what could be best if he wants to transform into a technical user, is he hardly knows anything about code but some basic Python structures? :-)04:37
capitaowhat does he want to do?04:37
capitaothere is like 100000000000000 ways to learn python these days04:38
the_yes_manthis is the ubuntu support channel. please keep the topic on ubuntu.04:38
the_yes_manif you want python support, head to its own support channel.04:38
capitaoso does kubuntu come with everything ubuntu has?04:39
OerHekscapitao, lolz, no.04:39
the_yes_mancapitao, no.04:39
daxcapitao: they're the same repositories, so anything you can install in one can be installed in the other04:39
capitaowhat's the diff04:39
daxcapitao: the default installed programs are different tho04:40
capitaolike what04:40
OerHeksdifferet standard apps, and more04:40
the_yes_mancapitao, kubuntu runs the kde desktop environment.04:40
capitaoya in know04:40
capitaobut what else04:40
bunringkabunchew04:40
the_yes_manas OerHeks says, different software selection.04:40
capitaoi can install KDE over this garbage Cinnamon DE right?04:41
the_yes_manyes.04:41
the_yes_manif you install the kubuntu desktop package then it will become an option at the system login screen.04:41
capitaosudo apt-get-install the best DE ever creawted04:41
capitaowhere can i find that?04:42
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the_yes_manbut if you want the 'true' kde+ubuntu experience, then i recommend you try kubuntu.04:42
capitaoya but i just got set up here..........04:42
OerHeksThere is no single best, use what you like best.04:42
the_yes_man$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:43
capitao> it just twerks04:43
the_yes_manit may drastically change your system though. so do your research first and be sure that is what you want to do.04:43
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* capitao just wants this to look pretty while also being functional04:44
capitaowhat about i304:44
the_yes_man?04:44
capitaowill that do masive changes as well?04:45
the_yes_manwhat you mean i3?04:45
capitaoi3 wm04:45
OerHekspolling is so useless.04:46
bunringinterrupts are better04:46
the_yes_manyou don't have to install kubuntu to use i3 wm.04:46
* capitao screams into his screen04:47
copotis there a specific channel for a question related to the Ubuntu subsystem within Windows 10?04:57
OerHeks!ubuwin04:57
ubottuCanonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality is still in beta and is not supported in #ubuntu. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows.04:57
TheNH813copot: Unsure. But that's definitely a specialty issue.04:57
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copotahh okay04:58
the_yes_mangreat question though. i had never even thought about that until now.04:59
copotI'm having an issue with shmget(), figured it most likely was specific to Ubuntu on Windows04:59
TheNH813Apparantly, the BCM4326 isn't supported in Ubuntu, or Linux for that matter. Can't find a single driver, even on Broadcom's site. They have the 4324 driver, but not the 4326 driver.05:01
TheNH813Anyone got advice?05:01
TheNH813Contact Broadcom? File a feature request for the Linux Kernel?05:02
Bray90820Anyone around who can help me get my audio card on my tablet working with ubuntu My audio card is bytcr-t564005:02
the_yes_manyeah i'd say you're probably out of luck if there's no driver.05:02
TheNH813the_yes_man: Mkay.05:03
TheNH813Bray90820: Let me look that up.05:03
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Bray90820TheNH813: https://github.com/burzumishi/linux-baytrail-flexx10/tree/master/sound05:04
the_yes_manTheNH813, yeah it does suck. but from my previous experience (not with this specific chip) if there's no driver and it doesn't work out of the box, too bad!05:04
the_yes_manotherwise, the linux kernel is pretty good at most h/ware and driver support and using generic ones for that matter.05:05
TheNH813It's a circuit board that has a USB header on it. Ripped it out of a printer. Apparantly, they use USB for the WiFi inside printers. The DEV ID shows up in lsusb, however, I guess Linux has no drivers for 5th generation low power broadcom chips.05:06
TheNH813Bray90820: Well, according to a bug report on Arch Linux, it's broke in Kernel 4.5.05:06
Bray90820I'm using Kernel 4.805:07
TheNH813Ah, ok. Let me check to see if it's patched.05:07
Bray90820On the older kernel it gives me dummy output with 4.8 it detects the card but no sound05:08
TheNH813Bray90820: What's the DEV ID, and what does DMESG say when it's found?05:08
Bray90820dmesg gives lots of errors idk what my id is05:09
Bray90820https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/Output.txt05:09
TheNH813I'l check that file, thanks.05:10
TheNH813There are repeated error codes for Baytrail Audio.05:11
Bray90820Mmhmm05:11
TheNH81349.898071] bytcr_rt5640 bytcr_rt5640: invalid position: , pos = -22, buffer size = 203830, period size = 119905:12
TheNH813It appears it may be having trouble getting a buffer.05:12
Bray90820Well I have tried to play a bunch of times maybe it gives me an error every time I play an audio file05:12
TheNH813Possibly, but these errors occured 49 seconds into boot.05:13
TheNH813Did you use the kernel patches from that GitHub page?05:14
Bray90820not 100% which patches you're talking bout05:15
TheNH813https://github.com/burzumishi/linux-baytrail-flexx10/tree/master/kernel05:16
TheNH813I noticed in the kernel subfolder there's patches for the KErnel having to do with PulseAudio.05:17
TheNH813As well as ALSA05:17
TheNH813https://github.com/burzumishi/linux-baytrail-flexx10/tree/master/kernel/patches/v4.805:17
TheNH813This may require building a new kernel.05:18
TheNH813And applying some patches. Especially the ones referencing audio.05:18
Bray90820I have tried compiling that kernel but It can't find a folder05:18
TheNH813Well, you'd have to download the Kernel 4.8 sources if you haven't, and then apply the patches.05:19
TheNH813Using the patch command. If you're unfamilliar with that I'm not sure how to help as I'v never patched a kernel manually.05:20
TheNH813Unless it has some automated method to apply the patch.05:21
Bray90820There is an SH file in there that is suppose to do that for me but it can't find "/*patches/patches" I think was the folder05:21
TheNH813Let me look that up.05:22
Bray90820Kernel-get.sh05:22
lotuspsychjeim trying to get a dell inspiron 1300 wifi working with lubuntu 16.04.1 with a BCM4318 airforce one 54g chipset, both pci and wl driver fail, no special syslog errors, anyone has a clue?05:22
TheNH813Bray90820: May be an error in the script. I'm trying to figure out what the script does.05:23
Bray90820TheNH813: "Patches/*.patch" is the folder that isn't found05:23
TheNH813!bcm | lotuspsychje05:23
ubottulotuspsychje: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx05:23
TheNH813Bray90820: I think I got it.05:24
lotuspsychjeTheNH813: tnx, but ive tested few drivers yet and cant get it to work05:24
Bray90820TheNH813: It also ays unable to locate package "kernel-headers"05:24
Bray90820*Says05:25
TheNH813Open the command terminal, and type "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install linux-headers" without the quotes.05:25
TheNH813lotuspsychje: Did you try the ones from the Broadcom site?05:26
lotuspsychjeTheNH813: not yet05:26
TheNH813I'l link you to the correct one. Those should work.05:26
lotuspsychjeTheNH813: ill try that next tnx05:27
Bray90820TheNH813: Package Linux-headers has no insulation candidate05:27
lotuspsychjemorning EriC^^05:27
EriC^^morning lotuspsychje05:28
TheNH813lotuspsychje: Is it PCI I'm assuming?05:28
lotuspsychjeTheNH813: yes05:28
EriC^^Bray90820: is it diabetic?05:28
EriC^^:p05:28
Bray90820Haha05:29
TheNH813Bray90820: Type uname -r05:29
TheNH813 Tell me the kernel version05:29
Bray908204.8.005:29
Bray908204.8.0-040800rc4-generic to be ecact05:29
Bray90820*Exact05:29
TheNH813Did you build the kernel, or is it a package?05:30
TheNH813lotuspsychje: Pastebin the output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"05:30
Bray90820I installed it from here05:30
Bray90820TheNH813:05:30
TheNH813What Ubuntu Version?05:31
Bray9082016.04.105:32
TheNH813And, by here, do you mean you got the kernel from APT, or from a link on this IRC?05:32
Bray90820The link05:32
TheNH813Do you have the link?05:33
lotuspsychjeTheNH813: cant pastebin as the dell is offline atm: [14e4:4318] rev 02, subsystem= dell wireless 1370 WLAN mini-PCI card [1028:0005] driver in use: wl05:33
Bray90820All the linux headers that it gives me are are for kernel 4.405:33
TheNH813lotuspsychje: That's all I need. Give me a minute,05:34
Bray908204.8.0-040800rc4-generic to be ecactOh my bad I thought I pasted the link05:34
Bray90820http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.8-rc4/05:34
lotuspsychjeTheNH813: great tnx05:34
TheNH813Bray90820: You on X86 or X64?05:35
Bray90820x64 but with 32bit uefi05:35
TheNH813Bray90820: Download the following packages:05:36
TheNH813http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.8-rc4/linux-headers-4.8.0-040800rc4_4.8.0-040800rc4.201608312129_all.deb05:36
TheNH813http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.8-rc4/linux-headers-4.8.0-040800rc4-generic_4.8.0-040800rc4.201608312129_amd64.deb05:36
Bray90820Then should i install them?05:36
TheNH813And install them both, starting wit the first link.05:36
TheNH813Yes.05:36
TheNH813lotuspsychje: Try this: "sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree"05:37
lotuspsychjegood idea05:37
TheNH813It could just be missing firmware. The default driver should be able to handle it.05:38
lotuspsychjeTheNH813: lemme connect to eth cable holdon05:38
TheNH813lotuspsychje: You'l need to unload and reload the drivers first.05:40
TheNH813With modprobe.05:40
Bray90820TheNH813: The second file gave me an error  "Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.8.0-040800rc4-generic (x86_64)"05:43
lotuspsychjeTheNH813: yeah im uninstalling wl as it broke bc network card also05:43
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TheNH813Bray90820: lotuspsychje: Hey, sorry to cut this short, but I have some papers to finish for my IT courses. IF there's any important quick questions to ask, you could ask me now. I got about 5-10 more minutes.05:48
Bray90820TheNH813: Is the error something I can ignore?05:49
TheNH813No, that sounds like it failed to build.05:49
TheNH813You might wanna ask on the forums.05:49
Bray90820Alright05:50
Bray90820Thanks05:50
Bray90820If I do get it installed then could I try the SH Script again?05:50
TheNH813Yes.05:51
Bray90820Ok thanks05:51
Bray90820Will do what you suggested05:51
lotuspsychjeTheNH813: it says linux-firmware-nonfree not found05:51
lotuspsychjeTheNH813: should i enable other sources?05:52
lotuspsychjeapt-cache doesnt show neither05:52
lotuspsychjeethernet working again after wl remove05:53
lotuspsychje!info linux-firmware-nonfree05:53
ubottuPackage linux-firmware-nonfree does not exist in xenial05:53
lotuspsychje!find firmware05:54
ubottuFound: linux-firmware, alsa-firmware-loaders, atmel-firmware, dahdi-firmware-nonfree, firmware-b43-installer, firmware-b43legacy-installer, firmware-crystalhd, isight-firmware-tools, midisport-firmware, nouveau-firmware (and 15 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=firmware&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all05:54
TheNH813lotuspsychje: Yes, enable other sources. Especially the ones containing the restricted extras05:56
maddawg2this switch to systemctl from upstart is a big royal PITA05:56
lotuspsychjeTheNH813: its in lubuntu-restricted-extras then?05:56
maddawg2gah05:56
TheNH813Yes,  that package would very likely contaian it.05:57
maddawg2cant get utorrent to start automatically anymore05:57
lotuspsychjeTheNH813: ok mate tnx for help so far and have a nice day05:57
TheNH813Enable multiverse.05:57
TheNH813You're welcome. You have a great day as well.05:57
lotuspsychjeTheNH813: seems like after reboot bcmwl-kernel-source was installed again, and braked my eth card to unclaimed again06:02
lotuspsychjeTheNH813: so purging again now06:03
TheNH813lotuspsychje: "sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source".06:03
TheNH813Yes, do that.06:03
lotuspsychjeyes! got it working06:06
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ner0xUsing incrontab with pdflatex, syslog tells me the command executed but the compiling doesn't happen. Any known ideas?06:10
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ducassener0x: your environment is very different in cron versus in a regular shell, that's a common source of problems.06:15
ner0xducasse: What problems typically occur? Or should I say, what does the difference in environments actually cause or do?06:30
ducassener0x: programs not executing correctly or at all, etc. add logging to your job, so you can see what goes on.06:31
ner0xducasse: I did but still no luck. Is there a common fix to this? I've tried full paths, putting it in a bash script instead of inline. Confused at this point.06:33
ducassener0x: you need to figure out exactly what fails, how do you log the output?06:35
r0b0thi06:39
ner0xducasse: Well, I used logger to make sure the script was being executed. Is there a way for me to log the output of the actual command? I'm a bit rusty. I can lmgtfy if you give me what to search. Thanks!06:43
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ducassener0x: try this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7526971/how-to-redirect-both-stdout-and-stderr-to-a-file06:45
PolarcraftSo anyone know why randomly php5-fpm creates duplicate pools?06:58
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ner0xducasse: See, I'm doing that, nothing is created. syslog says the command executed but still nothing.07:01
ducassener0x: is there any output from the command when you run it in a shell?07:02
ner0xducasse: Yeah, it works just fine when I run the script normally. Logs it to the logfile as well.07:06
ducassener0x: sounds like the command isn't getting executed at all, are you using full paths?07:07
MalvaroseHi.  I am installing Ubuntu, but I have 2 drives I want to use.  I want to have my HDD for all my data, so I figure I would put its mount point as /home.  I want all my programs and such to be on my SSD, so I would just tell the installer to go there, without a mount point.07:14
MalvaroseIs this the correct way to do that?07:14
ducasseMalvarose: yes, use the ssd as /07:14
EriC^^Malvarose: you have to set the mountpoint to "/" and filesystem to ext407:14
MalvaroseAwesome, thanks guys :)07:15
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DrunkIrishSailorbeer beer i like beer07:29
DrunkIrishSailorI LIKE BEER07:29
DrunkIrishSailorIT MAKES ME A JOLLY GOOD FELLOW07:29
EriC^^!beer07:29
DrunkIrishSailor!beer07:31
DrunkIrishSailor!drugs07:31
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PolarcraftUh.07:31
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DrunkIrishSailorPolarcraft: Uh.07:32
DrunkIrishSailorYou sound like my mom07:32
DrunkIrishSailordo you have a vagina?07:32
PolarcraftDrunkIrishSailor, and you sound like an idiot lmao.07:32
DrunkIrishSailori just need it07:33
DrunkIrishSailorthe pussy07:33
DrunkIrishSailoryou got some?07:33
DrunkIrishSailor!sex07:34
DrunkIrishSailor!dongs07:34
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Ben64!ops07:34
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FlannelDrunkIrishSailor: how about you stop that please, thanks.07:34
DrunkIrishSailorFlannel: or what?07:36
binialolz07:36
biniak got drunk :d07:37
biniaa g33k07:37
biniadamn, my keyboard really needs a replacemnt07:37
binia10+ years and starts playing with me07:37
ner0xducasse: I'm not. I did int he past. Let me try it again with full paths.07:39
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easyOnMeI have issues with updating my ubuntu 16.107:42
ducasseeasyOnMe: what issues?07:43
easyOnMewhenever the auto software updater pops up and I clicked install it won't install and complains about checking internet connection which I find absurd as I am able to chat now here07:43
Ben64and what is ubuntu 16.107:44
easyOnMeI have been having this issue since last night07:44
easyOnMeI tried what I can so I ended up here as I have no other alternatives07:44
Ben64so... ubuntu 16.10?07:45
ducasseeasyOnMe: 16.04.1 or 16.10?07:47
easyOnMeducasse: http://pastebin.com/HfASC7Xt07:48
easyOnMe16.1007:49
EriC^^!+1 | easyOnMe07:49
EriC^^!ubuntu+1 | easyOnMe07:49
ubottueasyOnMe: Yakkety Yak is the codename for Ubuntu 16.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+107:49
magnumhow can i set usb modem to 3g on|y?07:50
ducasseeasyOnMe: are the messages in that paste from the same machine? because they are from 16.04.07:55
ner0xducasse: Yep, full paths still don't generate any actual execution. Man, this is odd. I have it exactly like the examples and nothing.08:05
EriC^^ner0x: full paths to what?08:06
ner0xEriC^^: pdflatex and the file I plan on processing.08:13
EriC^^ner0x: must be a pdflatex issue08:13
EriC^^ner0x: try pdflatex <(cat /path/to/file)08:14
EriC^^nevermind08:14
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EriC^^maybe you have to use some argument before the filename08:15
EriC^^ner0x: what command are you running?08:16
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easyOnMeducasse: yes they are08:26
easyOnMeI think I have 16.04 ubuntu though08:27
Hellodiebonjour08:27
Hellodiej'ai un problème depuis une mise à jour d'ubuntu écran noir, qq peut m'aider svp ?08:29
daxHellodie: try #ubuntu-fr for francophone support :)08:30
Hellodieok thank you08:31
ducassener0x: sorry, afk. can you pastebin the cron job line and the script so i can look at them?08:32
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ner0xducasse: http://pastebin.com/xNmn4Y3c08:38
thinkyhi08:39
DM_hi08:39
thinkyi installed opera 40 to ubuntu 16.0408:39
thinkybut i cant view flash contents08:39
thinkyfirefox was showing flash contents but not opera08:40
thinkyhow can i fix that?08:40
thinkyit shows Get Adobe Flash Player icon on site always08:40
DM_install flash plugin08:40
EriC^^thinky: try sudo add-apt-repository multiverse && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin08:42
thinkythx EriC^^08:43
EriC^^thinky: no problem08:43
PCdudehey all :)08:45
PCdudeI am thinking of buying a small motherboard with an already soldered CPU like a N3150.08:45
PCdudeI find some threads on the internet that these CPU's are not well supported by linux in general (I wanna install ubuntu server on it 14.04). Is this true or can I simply install it like any other machine?08:46
DM_PCdude: show mashine config08:47
PCdudeDM_: what do u mean? I did not bought it yet, so cant show anything or have specific problems with it. U wanna know what all the parts in the machine will be?08:48
MonkeyDustPCdude  that's more for  #ubuntu-offtopic08:50
PCdudeMonkeyDust: np, switching to there rn08:50
DM_PCdude: I havnt any problem in ubuntu installations. Was problem with some RAID controller.08:51
PCdudeDM_: u have such a processor like the N3150? I am in #ubuntu-offtopic now08:51
easyOnMeducasse: can you still help me with the issues I encountered08:57
fioneHello.09:06
fioneSo, I have a problem in apt-get update.09:07
Dreamanrepos09:08
Dreamanchek09:08
Dreamanor server09:08
fionehow to check?09:08
Dreamanchange sarver09:08
Dreamanand see09:09
fionemm... the problem is just one of the repo, docker to be exact.09:09
Dreamanapt-get update     upgrade09:09
Dreaman. not in command09:10
fionewhere, if not in command?09:11
Dreamanopen teriman sudo su  pass09:11
Dreamanroot09:11
Dreamanand see09:11
Dreamanterminal09:11
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Dreamanaprt-get update apt-get upgrade09:12
Dreamanapt-get update09:12
fioneno change.09:12
ikoniado not use sudo su09:13
fioneyes. just apt-get update, right?09:13
ikoniasudo apt-get update09:13
fionewhy need to sudo if I am in root?09:13
ikoniahow are you root ?09:14
ikoniathe root account is locked09:14
Dreamanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23228461/09:15
fioneOh, I am not? the command started with # instead of $, that's what I learned.09:15
Dreaman:)09:15
Dreamanfione09:15
fioneI am wrong, huh. sorry ikonia.09:16
ikoniano need for sorry09:16
ikoniathats why we are here, to help09:16
fioneso, the problem started when I added a repo for docker.09:16
ikoniafione: what is the actual problem09:17
fioneI cannot update docker's repo?09:17
BitnovaHi, what is the best way to get the latest updates for mozilla firefox and thunderbird? is Ubuntuzilla faster than the ubuntu repo's in terms of having the latest updates and security updates that have been tested?09:17
ikoniawhat do you mean cannot update09:17
fioneI cannot update docker's repo.09:17
ikoniafione: yes, what do you mean by that09:18
ikoniaBitnova: just wait for the udpates to come from the official ubuntu repos09:18
fionesudo apt-get update returns connectionrefused for docker.09:18
ikoniaBitnova: they are well maintained09:18
fionehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23228435/09:18
ikoniafione: some me the error in a pastebin09:18
fioneline 309:18
ikoniafione: ok - so that is the dockerprojects repo, and it's rejecting connections09:19
Bitnovaikonia, okay, but i read that ubuntuzilla is faster in releasing tested updates. isnt that true you think?09:19
ikoniafione: you need to talk to that repo maintainer and ask him why09:19
ikoniaBitnova: I think ubuntuzilla is a joke09:19
ikoniaand I advise you not to use it09:19
ikoniabut it's up to you09:19
fioneOkay. so the problem is not at apt-get update huh. thanks ikonia, dreaman.09:19
Bitnovaoh okay. ikonia what about the ppa for mozilla? why do they even have that if ubuntu official repos have their own?09:20
ikoniaBitnova: what is the problem with the ubuntu releases ?09:20
ikoniafione: it's that repo09:20
Bitnovano nothing ikonia i just want to know if i really am getting the latest on time, or another repo is faster in releasing stable and tested updates.09:21
ikoniaBitnova: I think you're making a problem where one doesn't exist09:21
ikoniathe lag on firefox release to the ubuntu repos is normally very small09:21
ikoniaand it's done "properly" tested and integrated09:21
ikoniawhy rush a few hours for a bodge job from someone else ?09:22
ikoniafione: looking at that repo in a browser, it's up and fully available09:23
tree123 Hi I have installed ubuntu 16.04 in asus notebook, I observed an issue with touchpad FTE1001:00 0B05:0101, doesnot have touchpad option in mouse and touchpad setting please help me with it09:26
tree123 Hi I have installed ubuntu 16.04 in asus notebook, I observed an issue with touchpad FTE1001:00 0B05:0101, doesnot have touchpad option in mouse and touchpad setting i am unable to use features like 2 finger scroll09:29
DM_tree123: asus model?09:29
tree123r558u09:29
akamhello all please help me to install nvida card driver ubuntu 16.4.1 amd my card NVIDIA Corporation GF117M [GeForce 610M/710M/810M/820M / GT 620M/625M/630M/720M] (rev a1)09:33
akamplease help me to install nvida card driver ubuntu 16.4.1 amd my card NVIDIA Corporation GF117M [GeForce 610M/710M/810M/820M / GT 620M/625M/630M/720M] (rev a1)09:34
akamany one help me ?09:35
MonkeyDust!patience | akam09:35
ubottuakam: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/09:35
biniahttps://google.com helps a lot too09:36
fioneikonia, I have another question.09:36
akamim asking but not answre09:36
ikoniaakam: you're waiting less than 60 before expecting an answer09:37
fioneis it possible to remove application that was installed using tar xzf, when the installation directory has been deleted?09:37
SebthreeBQM10HDhi09:37
akamhttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233798209:37
akam?09:37
akamanswre09:37
akamplz09:37
ikoniaakam: no, sorry - if you're using the forums, wait for the forums to answer09:38
atralheavenHi, I installed win10 first, and then ubuntu, I can't boot to windows now. how can I fix it? update-grub didn't work09:38
PCdudeatralheaven: During the install u get an option how u wanna install ubuntu. what did u choose there?09:39
ikoniaatralheaven: define can't boot windows09:39
akamwhay mr iko im very busy plz helping09:39
fioneatralheaven, there is no other option in grub?09:39
biniae09:39
fioneif I remembered right there is windows boot manager in mine as one of the option.09:39
biniadid you even check on the problem or just counting on some stranger to solve it for you?09:39
atralheavenfione: after update-grub, yes, before it, there was, but it didn't work09:39
DrManhattancmon guys be nice, just point him to the dual boot manual09:40
biniai meant akam09:40
DrManhattanlets not let ubuntu turn into fedora :)09:40
ikoniaDrManhattan: please - don't rubbish other distros09:40
binianever used thank god09:40
akamany one help me plz09:40
ikoniaso far he's not even said what the problem is09:40
akam:(09:40
ikoniaakam: stop asking - ask your question and wait for a response09:40
tree123Hi I have installed ubuntu 16.04 in asus notebook, I observed an issue with touchpad FTE1001:00 0B05:0101, doesnot have touchpad option in mouse and touchpad setting i am unable to use features like 2 finger scroll09:40
biniaakam, you cant expect people do stuf for you09:40
ikoniaakam: your expectation of a support time is unrealistic09:40
biniashow us the ways you tried so far09:41
atralheavenwell I've done this dual boot installation many times, as long as windows was first, I had no problem09:41
fioneso, atralheaven, have you chosen that option anyway?09:41
akam-_-09:41
fioneafter updating grub I mean.09:41
biniaakam, did you even try? or just assuming someone does it for you?09:42
atralheavenfione: sorry, which option?09:42
ikoniaatralheaven: could you explain the actual problem09:42
fionewindows boot manager.09:42
akam:9*09:43
atralheavenI first installed windows 10, then I installed ubuntu, I thought grub would recognize windows too, but it didn't. I can't boot to windows now09:43
tree123Hi I have installed ubuntu 16.04 in asus notebook, I observed an issue with touchpad FTE1001:00 0B05:0101, doesnot have touchpad option in mouse and touchpad setting i am unable to use features like 2 finger scroll, can anyone help me looking into this issue09:43
EriC^^atralheaven: pastebin the output of sudo parted -l09:43
ikoniaatralheaven: so is the problem that you are actually missing the windows boot item from grub09:44
ikonianot that you can't boot it - it's just missing from the grub menu09:44
atralheavenEriC^^: http://hastebin.com/afoxiqibid.sql09:45
atralheavenikonia: yes, that's it09:45
DM_tree123: main problem that this is additional things. i think that you need a specifik driver for this09:45
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AbdulI have problem. I can't install .net framework on wine 1.9.19 and I'm using winetricks with it. My ubuntu version is 16.04 and when installing through winetricks, it gives me error that mono does not appear to be installed.09:50
tree123@DM_: The issue is registerd here but has not proceeded https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/158791309:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1587913 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 16.04 Two finger scrolling/multitouch not working" [Low,Incomplete]09:50
EriC^^atralheaven: try sudo update-grub09:51
atralheavenEriC^^: I did, it just removed the option for booting windows, which didn't work when it was present09:52
EriC^^atralheaven: try ls /sys/firmware/efi09:53
EriC^^does it show a bunch of dirs?09:54
atralheavenEriC^^: it doesn't exist09:54
EriC^^atralheaven: aha09:55
EriC^^that means you're booted in legacy mode09:55
EriC^^atralheaven: please pastebin /etc/fstab and sudo blkid09:56
ChetManlycan you still file bufgs against 14.04?09:57
EriC^^ChetManly: sure09:57
ChetManlyok09:58
plop_ep209:59
atralheavenEriC^^: http://hastebin.com/abasusogep.http10:01
EriC^^atralheaven: ok, type sudo mkdir /boot/efi10:03
EriC^^atralheaven: which ubuntu version is this?10:04
SomethisGERGuten tag good ppl ;-910:07
centHello everyone, how to view the package version10:07
EriC^^cent: apt-cache policy <package.10:08
EriC^^* <package>10:08
centEriC^^: thank you10:08
EriC^^cent: no problem10:09
atralheavenEriC^^: 16.0410:09
centyes10:09
EriC^^atralheaven: ok, done?10:10
atralheavenEriC^^: yes10:10
AbdulI have problem. I can't install .net framework on wine 1.9.19 and I'm using winetricks with it. My ubuntu version is 16.04 and when installing through winetricks, it gives me error that mono does not appear to be installed.10:10
EriC^^atralheaven: ok type sudo nano /etc/fstab and add the following line at the bottom10:10
SomethisGER/clear/clear10:10
SomethisGERshit :-)10:11
EriC^^UUID= 2C4F-363C /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       110:11
EriC^^SomethisGER: wouldn't you use /flush for that? j/k10:11
atralheavenEriC^^: done10:12
silasok im hacked and dont know if i can do anything before my linux arrives10:12
SomethisGEREriC^^: on irssi here ...10:12
EriC^^atralheaven: try sudo mount -a10:12
silascan anyone help me with root kits on OS X?10:12
EriC^^SomethisGER: j/k .. sh*t .. flush.. you know :)10:12
SomethisGEREriC^^: he he10:12
SomethisGEREriC^^: my terminal just went crazy on me :-)10:13
EriC^^:)10:13
silasmy terminal wont let me remove a drive10:13
atralheavenEriC^^: I get this error: mount: /etc/fstab: parse error: ignore entry at line 14.10:13
silasinternal drive that is loaded with spyware etc10:13
EriC^^atralheaven: please pastebin /etc/fstab10:14
EriC^^atralheaven: oh, i had a typo10:14
EriC^^it should be10:14
silasi see all these gray files i know its a server they installed10:14
silasi cant delete them10:14
EriC^^UUID=2C4F-363C /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       110:14
EriC^^without the space after UUID=10:14
vicesanyone interested in working out the kinks in a Win8 Ubuntu-usb-HDD dual boot installation?10:15
silasnow all the ttrolls hacking me are in this  chat room.  shows on10:15
Abdulhelp me someone10:15
vicesafter looking at endless guides i've managed to get dual boot working, but only when the USB drive is plugged in.. so does this mean I need to try to install grub2 to the Win8 MBR?10:16
atralheavenEriC^^: it was just that space, sudo mount -a works now :)10:16
Lantiziahey I've noticed there are a few MTA's in the repos... I need one that a) just relays to an external smtp server, never actually delivers the message itself   b) is a drop-in replacement for the 'sendmail' command  ... and I know you're thinking OH! postfix! :P  but also... c) will only allow certain processes (e.g. /usr/local/bin/myapp that calls 'sendmail') to send through it and perhaps custom rules when it does (e10:17
Lantizia.g. what 'from' address to use)... any ideas?10:17
EriC^^atralheaven: ok, great :)10:17
EriC^^atralheaven: try now sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64{,-bin,-signed} grub2-common grub-common10:17
atralheavenEriC^^: may I ask what does umask=0077 mean here? I've worked with this file to add a /data partition, I think I didn't see that in pages that I read to find out what should I do10:18
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rkadranoHi good morning10:18
EriC^^atralheaven: i think it sets the dirs permissions to 77010:18
EriC^^in 16.04 they started putting it for the efi, without root i can't list the files in /boot/efi anymore10:19
mehdip2007hi guys , how can i detect my iPhone via windows guest on a virtualbox 5.1.2 ? i also installed the extension pack10:19
rkadranoHi good morningserver configuration in Ubuntu 16.4?10:19
EriC^^atralheaven: * 70010:19
sophia7and I said: noooo, don't cum in my ass, you'll make me pregnant! And I was like, omfg and she was like omg too and I told her that Betty dindu nuffin. TRIGGERED! TRIGGER ALERT!10:19
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rkadranoLol, my keyboard turns crazy XD10:20
sophia7rkadrano: LOL!10:20
vicesor, how can I move this: {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi <-- to my Win Partition?10:20
atralheavenEriC^^: why not just doing it with chmod? is this needed only for this partition?10:21
rkadranosophia7, sure.. It's writing things with sense!!! incredible!10:21
atralheavenEriC^^: I installed them, is it finished now?10:21
sophia7kk bai lol10:21
rkadranosome one have knoment about IRC configuratio?10:22
EriC^^atralheaven: yeah since fat32 doesn't have permissions so the umask is needed10:22
EriC^^it's a "fake permissions"10:23
EriC^^atralheaven: yes try now to reboot and see if ubuntu loads, make sure in the bios uefi is enabled and legacy is disabled10:23
atralheavenEriC^^: with NTFS its ok right? because I would add /data partition later10:24
EriC^^ntfs is the same it also needs umask for permissions10:24
atralheavenEriC^^: with every problem we learn something new! that's what I like with linux problems!10:24
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atralheavenEriC^^: but it worked with a chown on /data directiry, I think10:25
atralheavenEriC^^: or maybe with chown and chmod after it10:25
EriC^^yeah but if you unmount and mount it again they will disappear10:25
atralheavenEriC^^: that never happened! so I didn't have this problem. what number should the /data partition have for the umaske?10:26
EriC^^it depends how you want it mounted, umask is like the inverse of chmod, it takes away permissions10:27
atralheavenEriC^^: /data is for my files, I kept home only for configs, so the main user needs to have access in all forms to that partition10:28
SomethisGERDoes anyone know how to cancel selecting text in nano?10:29
SomethisGER(ctrl + a to start selection but neither ESC nor ctrl+c will cancel this mode)10:30
SomethisGER(sorry, alt+a to start selecting text in nano)10:30
EriC^^atralheaven: use umask=00010:34
atralheavenEriC^^: thanks :) I'm going to reboot now and see if I can boot to windows10:36
EriC^^atralheaven: no problem :) ok10:36
__mummy__when wine tells me a directory is not owned by me when i try to run it with sudo... how do I fix that?10:36
EriC^^vices: what's up?10:39
SomethisGERSorry, don't know if I already posted this (experimenting with my terminal window)10:41
SomethisGERDoes anyone know how to cancel selecting text in nano? (alt + a to start selection but neither ESC nor ctrl+c will cancel this mode)10:41
PCdudeI am having the following problem in ubuntu10:44
PCdudehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/797128/lvmetad-is-not-active-yet-using-direct-activation-during-sysinit-on-boot10:44
PCdudeanybody an idea how to solve this?10:44
nimmsSomethisGER: well, press Alt-a again. =)10:49
SomethisGERnimms: Duh, that worked :-)10:53
SomethisGERnimms: Thank you for solving this hard problem10:53
fribmy console (Ctrl+alt+f1) shows ubuntu loading screen.  how can I fix this? thanks10:58
newjxhi11:04
crazyadmgave up centos/rhel, ubuntu is obviously better at desktop11:04
PCdudecrazyadm: glad u saw the light ;)11:05
PCdudejk11:05
SebthreeBQM10HD  crazyadm  centos and rhel  are more for big buiness and enterprise,  so work sations and servervs, but should be fine enough for desktops to11:05
ner0xducasse: Sorry about that, my internet cut for a bit. Did you happen to say anything while I was away?11:07
crazyadmin installation part, i cannot delete previously setup lvm11:07
crazyadmthe - is grey out11:07
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crazyadmSebthreeBQM10HD, ur right11:08
crazyadmbut during installation, i was trying to delelte old partition table with lvm11:09
crazyadmthe minus sign is grey out11:09
PCdudehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/797128/lvmetad-is-not-active-yet-using-direct-activation-during-sysinit-on-boot11:10
PCdudeanyone an idea on that one?11:10
crazyadmso i cannot create my own lvm11:11
akikcrazyadm: have you tried to disable the lvm volume vgroup at install time?11:12
akikcrazyadm: vgchange -a n vg11:13
akikcrazyadm: i'm not sure why it would be activated automatically without query11:14
varaindemianis there any problem if I disable swap and then delete the partition and alocate its space to /home?11:19
varaindemianI have 8 gb of ram11:19
crazyadminstallation failed at grub install11:25
akikvaraindemian: for normal usage no but hibernate needs the swap partition if i remember right11:26
sherlockhomelessHey everyone11:27
sherlockhomelessI have this problem with an usb-bootstick, that really starts to fuck me up11:28
akik!language11:28
ubottuThe main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList11:28
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crazyadminstallation failed at grub install11:29
sherlockhomelesssorry... a friend of mine managed to break his laptops harddrive, by letting it fall form a table11:29
sherlockhomelessnow i am trying to get ubuntu start on it to figure out if anything else is broken11:30
sherlockhomelessI got an usb-stick with ubuntu on it11:30
sherlockhomelessi copied the 16.04 iso on it using standard dd-command11:30
sherlockhomelessin gparted i can see the boot flag is set11:30
sherlockhomelessbut whenever I try to boot it, I get the massege that "isolinux.bin is missing"11:31
sherlockhomelesswhen i try to start it on my desktop, it boots perfectly11:31
sherlockhomelessanyone any idea what i can check?11:31
sherlockhomelesson the laptop i enabled legacy boot and disabled all that fast-boot stuff11:32
th0rsherlockhomeless: did you tell the laptop to boot from the usb drive instead of the hard drive?11:33
sherlockhomelessyes, i switched the boot order and also started boot-manager11:33
emrwhy am i auto joining this channel11:35
bicocksd_hi11:37
maikohi11:40
sherlockhomelessmaiko: hi11:41
PCdudeWhen starting up my PC I get the following error:11:49
PCdudeLvmetad is not active yet, using direct activation during sysinit11:49
PCdudeVolume group "ubuntu-vg" not found11:49
PCdudeCannot process volume group ubuntu-vg11:49
PCdudeHow can I solve this?11:49
PCdudeMore info: http://askubuntu.com/questions/797128/lvmetad-is-not-active-yet-using-direct-activation-during-sysinit-on-boot11:49
arannguys really need your help:  i want to c make it offontrol power of usb usb ports in ubuntu i tried suspending it with command line but usb power is still on i want to make it of so i can of usb bulb with it please help  :)11:50
arann guys really need your help:  i want to control  power of  usb ports in ubuntu i tried suspending it with command line but usb power is still on i want to make it off so i can off usb light  bulb with it please help  :)11:51
unixellyo11:53
kennyngstonhey guys11:53
kennyngstonhow can i check from CLI if a network manager is messing with my interfaces? i lose configuration afterm inutes of applying with ip addr/ifconfig or by /etc/network/interfaces11:53
newjxhey gays11:53
arannplease respond to my query i  really need help11:54
tugayfirst of all hello11:55
tugayi cant my make script to run at startup11:55
tugayhow can i do this ?11:55
MManIn almost every country we have a LoCo team channel, you can join #ubuntu-<iso code of your country> to jump into that channel and start talking with people near you11:55
MonkeyDust!loco11:56
ubottuInformation on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at http://loco.ubuntu.com/11:56
tugayjoin #ubuntu-tr11:56
tugayjoin ubuntu-tr11:56
tugayjoin #ubuntu-3166-211:57
MonkeyDusttugay  it's /join ... with a forward slash11:58
tugayok i managed it thanks11:58
fionehi.11:59
fioneI need help again? I am currently trying to install printer Epson L310. So far, I found https://github.com/endlessm/epson-inkjet-printer/commit/de11892dbbde4a1d31ca317433e53dba9eab9900 for the recommended driver.12:01
fioneI don't know what to do now?12:01
aranncomputer is suspend usb still working liubuntu 14.04 how to close usb power12:03
aranncomputer is suspend usb still working in ubuntu 14.04 how to close usb power12:03
ducasse!patience | arann12:03
ubottuarann: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/12:03
akikfione: i entered "epson l310 ubuntu" into google and got this reply back http://tutorialforlinux.com/2016/02/07/how-to-install-epson-l300l310l312-printer-driver-software-utility-on-ubuntu-linux/12:05
MManwww.epson.eu/support?productID=15802#faq_search12:05
akikis there a direct link to freenode #ubuntu somewhere in the installation?12:06
fionemm... I see. akik. so, I've used dpkg -i instead of gdebi for those two files. should I redo it using gdebi?12:07
BluesKajHiyas all12:07
akikfione: no if they installed ok12:07
akikfione: did you follow that guide and ran into some error? paste the error in http://pastebin.com/12:09
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fionenot yet. I've installed those two files before I go here. I just installed them without knowing what they do like in the tutorial though.12:09
MMansudo apt-get install gdebi sudo gdebi ~/Downloads/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr*.deb12:11
MMansudo gdebi ~/Downloads/epson-printer-utility*.deb12:12
MManthat should do the job12:12
akikdpkg does the same as gdebi12:12
fioneHmm. printing is successful.12:14
fionethough I don't know if the quality of the printer is this low or not.12:14
vicesEriC^^ any idea how to move grub2 to the win8 mbr?12:15
vicescurrently the grub files are on the USB HDD, and if it's not plugged in then I get the grub bash shell12:15
EriC^^vices: win8 and ubuntu are on an ext hdd, and without the usb you get grub rescue?12:16
MMan@vices copy the grub files in to local hdd then boot up on dos or from other command line cd-usb os and place them in the disk you want too after you mount it!12:17
vicesEriC^^ win8 is on the SSD (Surface pro 2) and ubuntu is on the ext HDD, and without USB i get the grub prompt (doesn't seem to be grub rescue though)12:17
EriC^^vices: what usb?12:17
EriC^^you mean the ext hdd?12:17
vicessorry, yes12:18
vicesMMan, trying to work out what you said ^^;12:18
EriC^^oh, you'd need to have the separate /boot on the ssd12:18
vicesso c:/boot and just copy the files over?12:18
EriC^^vices: are you using uefi?12:18
vicesEriC^^ yeah12:18
vicesi had to do the bcdedit command12:19
EriC^^no, you need to make a separate /boot partition on the ssd, and have ubuntu use it as its /boot12:19
EriC^^grub gets installed in /boot and all its modules and stuff go there too12:19
vicesah haa12:19
EriC^^are you sure its uefi not legacy?12:19
vicesEriC^^ pretty sure12:20
EriC^^ok12:20
vicesso I should resize the ssd partition, and then?12:21
EriC^^make a ~1gb /boot12:21
EriC^^yeah12:21
EriC^^ubuntu won't work without the ssd anymore btw12:22
viceswithout the ssd?12:22
vicesyou mean if the size changes?12:22
EriC^^no i mean if you plug ubuntu into another pc it won't boot12:22
vicesah that's okay, disappointing but okay12:23
EriC^^if you dont mind pressing extra buttons12:23
EriC^^you could always have the uefi boot window's efi file (right now it's booting ubuntu's grub efi)12:23
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vicesyeah how would I do that?12:23
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EriC^^that way you could boot windows using its bootloader, and switch the uefi to boot grub when you plug the usb12:24
EriC^^depends on your laptop12:24
vicesyeah that's preferable to losing the 1gb of space (only 128gb ssd)12:24
EriC^^on some if you press esc while it's booting you can get a runtime boot options and choose the efi entry you want12:24
vicesit's a surface pro 212:25
vicesthe uefi options are.. spartatn12:26
vicesspartan12:26
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viceshere's a pic someone took of them: http://www.followtechnology.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/DSCN0910.jpg12:26
EriC^^any other menu?12:27
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vicesno but..12:28
vicesif i hold shift when i restart it takes me to some..12:28
vicesoptions like this12:28
viceshttp://www.hardreset.info/media/resetinfo/2015/282/0ecc30bdba0c4c1c9e4cbadc7f9eed94/microsoft-surface-pro-4.jpg12:28
EriC^^vices: hmm12:30
EriC^^vices: if you put the efi partition on ubuntu, you could (possibly) tell windows to boot it in bcdedit12:30
vicesEriC^^ booting into windows and holding shift while restarting just to boot ubuntu is.. kind of.. unacceptable12:30
EriC^^and when it doesn't find it it would fallback to using its bootloader as the second entry maybe12:30
vicesEriC^^ yeah i did this: bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi12:31
vicesbut it doesn't fall back when it doesn't find it.. it just goes to grub2 bash12:31
EriC^^since the ubuntu efi is on the windows efi right now, it'll always find it, and then it'll fall to a grub prompt when it can't find /boot12:31
EriC^^yeah cause it finds grub now always since its on the same efi partition12:31
EriC^^maybe if you make a separate efi on the usb hdd it will fallback to the windows one12:31
vicesthe main issue people have is that without bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi windows tends to skip the ubuntu bootloader12:32
EriC^^yeah12:33
EriC^^can you set 2 bootloaders in bcdedit? as a list?12:34
MManSO uefi bios/boot partition uses integration with os? (Then you build a intepended uefi/bios partition who actualy mount entire disk image to boot from and rebuilds it self with the shut down process) hard to be done or just imposibble ?12:35
EriC^^vices: apparently you can, https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff541231(v=vs.85).aspx12:36
akikEriC^^: you can create new ntldr boot entries with bcdedit12:36
vicesEriC^^ thanks, reading that now12:38
docgiShould I update to the latest kernel 4.7.5? I am running Ubuntu 16.04 kernel 4.412:38
LeMikehello. I already read a bit about TTY and starting X via "startx -- :#". this works fine but what I want is slightly different. when I turn on the PC, I like to press CTRL+ALT+F5 and have another login screen already as a GUI. like in KDE but working in Xubuntu ;) how do I do that?12:39
MManspmething lik partition magic boot dos boot loader gui screen ?12:41
MMansomething...12:41
ZteamHi!12:42
vicesbcdedit /set {bootmgr} path c:\windows\system32\winload.efi <-- is this going to restore the MBR correctly?12:42
kiianyone using linux on phone android?12:43
LeMikeanother XServer / lightdm on another TTY, MMan. Starting with the GUI login instead of text based login.12:43
MManI am sorry Mike, i have ages to do something like this :(12:44
Zteamvices, the easiest way to fix mbr is to run from a recovery dvd / harddrive and run bootrec /fixmbr and bootrec /fixboot12:45
Zteamvices, that should restore your MBR and bootloader for you12:46
akikLeMike: you could experiment with running "startx -- :1" from the console. it starts another xorg session12:46
vicesZteam: yeah but.. running bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi <-- is so easy, isn't there an equally easy option to set it back to whatever the default is?12:46
LeMikeYee, akik. But then I am logged in once again. Can I start X and see the login screen?12:48
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Zteamvices, I don't really know, but if windows is working on that machine right now, you could try to use EasyBCD to fix such things I think12:49
EriC^^vices: by default i think it would be \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi12:50
akikLeMike: you would probably need to start anohter lightdm/sddm12:50
paranoidabhihi12:52
ChetManlyconky manager not in the repo?12:56
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akikLeMike: i found this syntax of stackexchange: startx gnome-session -- :1 vt812:56
akikon stackexchange12:56
nedbati'm using ubuntu 12.04 with vagrant, and it tries to read /etc/os-release which doesn't exist. When did this file start getting distributed? Is it weird for me to create one myself?12:57
ZteamSo I have built a new computer but now then I tried too boot from my existing Ubuntu 16.04 installation I just get a black screen, I can't use a TTY, recovery mode or anything. the machine has a Nivida Geforce 980 GTX card, if I go into recovery mode or something I just get a messy flickering, booting from my Ubuntu 16.04 pendrive just give me flicering as well12:57
ZteamI have the official Nvidia driver from a previus card installed right now12:58
PCdudeZteam: have u tried removing the GPU and restarting? of course not what u want, but at least we know its the GPU in that case12:58
lordcirthnedbat, in 16.04 here it's in a package called base-files.  I can pastebin you mine to edit if you'd like.12:59
nedbatlordcirth: i have the content I would use (it was submitted in a bug report to me), i'm just trying to understand the timelines here. I was surprised it wasn't in 12.04, and it felt odd to just create one myself.12:59
lordcirthnedbat, do you have an /etc/lsb-release?13:00
nedbatlordcirth: yes13:00
lordcirthnedbat, but yeah I see no harm in creating it, provided you make it correctly.13:00
strkdist-upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04.1 and I'm now w/out wireless nor X, locked out -- help ?13:00
nedbatlordcirth: this is the content if you are interested, looks fine to me: https://github.com/edx/configuration/issues/3385#issue-17765118113:01
nedbatlordcirth: does 12.04 pre-date os-release files, or is there some other reason i don't have it?13:01
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strkwlan0 results RF-killed but Fn keys do not work so RF kill doesn't switch13:01
ZteamPCdude, no I have not, but, I did see an error related to the Nvidia driver so I'm pretty sure it is just a driver problem, also my symptoms definetly matches similair issues with the Ubuntu and Nvidia cards13:02
LeMikedamn. nothing happens akik :/ I guess I need to put this at startup or so13:02
lordcirthnedbat, looks ok, though mine has some extra lines you might not need: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23229163/13:03
lordcirthnedbat, and I'm not sure, it's been a long time since I used 12.04.13:03
nedbatlordcirth: thanks for the help13:04
ChetManlymay I have an answer?13:04
ChetManlyever?13:04
ZteamPCdude, I could probably just unplug my Nvidia card and try to apply a driver update, with my built in card and then try to reinstall my Nvidia card, but I'm quite suprised I running into these issues at all13:04
lordcirth!patience | ChetManly13:04
ubottuChetManly: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/13:04
akikLeMike: this could give you some pointers https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX13:04
lordcirthChetManly, conky is in xenial repos13:04
PCdudeZteam: exactly, what I was thinking. for sure not pretty, but might work13:05
ChetManlymanager!13:05
lordcirth!info conky13:05
ubottuconky (source: conky): highly configurable system monitor (transitional package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10.1-3 (xenial), package size 3 kB, installed size 26 kB13:05
lordcirthChetManly, what's the manager?  a GUI config thing for it?13:05
ChetManlyyes sir13:05
MonkeyDust!find conky13:06
ubottuFound: conky, conky-all, conky-all-dbg, conky-cli, conky-cli-dbg13:06
lordcirthChetManly, where's the fun in that? :P jk https://launchpad.net/~teejee2008/+archive/ubuntu/ppa13:06
PCdudeZteam: I dont think I am the best guy to help u with this and besides I have to go now, but will be back in a couple of hours. Good luck!13:06
MonkeyDustChetManly  there's this http://conkygui.sourceforge.net/13:06
lordcirthChetManly, this seems to be the author's PPA, it has 16.04 packages of conky-manager.13:07
ChetManlylordcirth: I know but I cannot find good how tos without the manager13:07
lordcirthChetManly, I am detecting that you haven't actually asked your real question.  What do you actually want here?13:08
ZteamPCdude, thanks man13:08
ChetManlyI made one by hand some time ago, but they have newer neater designs that I think would be beyond my scope13:08
lordcirthChetManly, you want a guide to configuring conky manually?13:09
ChetManlya good one yes13:10
ChetManlyits all installed already and I can show the thing and figure out how to set on boot or start or whatever13:11
lordcirthChetManly, ok, I will look.  You should ask your real question to begin with, you know.13:11
ChetManlyare  the circular "gauges" something to do with lua?13:12
lordcirthChetManly, I think so, yes.  I haven't used conky since they were added though.13:13
ChetManlylordcirth: so someone could go !info conky? :)13:13
LeMikeThanks akik . I'll read this now ;)13:13
lordcirthChetManly, people did that because you were asking about packages, not configs13:14
lordcirthIf you ask the wrong question, you get the wrong answer.13:14
ChetManlyI was asking that question at first thou I just didnt have the manager installed13:14
ChetManlyin on 14.04 still13:15
lordcirthChetManly, Is this useful? http://conky.sourceforge.net/documentation.html13:15
ChetManlycannot seem to connect to the wiki13:17
MMangtg tc... see ya later!13:18
lordcirthChetManly, me either13:18
lordcirthChetManly, for good samples, there is also https://www.reddit.com/r/conkyporn13:18
Mahmoud_hello13:19
lordcirthMahmoud_, hi13:19
strkI'm getting errors on starting X on a laptop (system76) - it worked fine with 14.04, ideas on how to fix ?13:19
lordcirthstrk, have you looked in Xorg.0.log?13:20
eolienhi, i have a strange thing since 16.04, if i do an apt-get update, everything works without errors. Then install misc package, i fails finding the deb file. Then if i rm /var/lib/lists/apt/* and /var/lib/lists/apt/partial/*, apt-get update again and then install : it works13:21
eoliens/i/it13:21
strklordcirth: no (EE) record in there13:22
lordcirtheolien, that is strange.  Are you sure it's "no such file or directory" and not, say, checksum failed?13:22
ve-kettHey guys13:22
strkbut running X prints on console: (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.i/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log13:22
strktruncated/mungled like that13:22
strkok, redirecting stderr to a file becomes clearer13:23
strkparse_vt_settings: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory)13:23
eolienlordcirth: i'm sure, err getting .deb file, no checksum error, then if i go to the url, then it is the wrong version, so firefox couldnt get the package manually. If i look up in web directories, i find the last version13:23
strksounds like a permission13:24
lordcirtheolien, what sort of wrong version?  Is it perhaps trying to download for a different Ubuntu release or something?13:24
eolienlordcirth: let me paste you something just a min13:26
strkok, steps forward: starting lightdm shows me that X actually can work13:28
strkonly it refuses to start a session for my user13:28
lordcirthstrk, well, that's useful to know13:29
lordcirthstrk, refuses how?13:29
strkit says "Failed to start session"13:29
strkmaybe due to this: CRITICAL **: session_get_login1_session_id: assertion 'session != NULL' failed13:30
strkit thinks there's another session active ?13:30
Guest34294dank memes cant melt steel beams tbh13:31
eolienlordcirth: http://sprunge.us/JWdN13:32
eoliendidnt wait to finish, but here's the problem13:32
strkany user behaves the same13:33
lordcirtheolien, why are you downloading from debian-nightly repos?13:33
lordcirtheolien, all of your errors are coming from your custom qgis.org repo13:33
eolienlordcirth: that's not the problem13:34
eoliengo down13:34
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strklordcirth: so, no user can login via lightdm, but it's ok from console13:34
eolieni rm files, then it works13:34
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lordcirtheolien, could you please pastebin it again in English?  export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 and run again.13:36
strklordcirth: so now, after reboot, it does boot into lightdm, but for every user I get a "Failed to start session" message13:37
strksame for "Guest Session" ?13:37
strk^?^!13:37
strkthere, figured13:39
strkthe session was configured to launch LXDE, but LXDE evidently isnt installed13:39
strkchanging to an installed session fixes the login (sounds like something that could be handled better by the software, not even trying to start what's not available)13:39
xfceonenvidia x server settings lost on reboot ~/.nvidia-settings-rc ?13:43
akikLeMike: another option that came to my mind is using Xnest to connect to the local lightdm. it will open the new xorg session in a new window13:46
akikLeMike: for this you need to change the -nolisten tcp to -listen tcp13:46
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workshophello, can someone help me? i can barter for service13:49
jesper_sad13:50
jesper_or not13:50
workshopalso, it will be good karma for you, and i'm not too dumb13:50
strknext: libreoffice -- /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libicuuc.so.52: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory13:51
jesper_hello13:51
strkideas ? (libreoffice calc doesn't start)13:51
workshophey, can you help me? or are you looking for help yourself?13:51
workshopi can13:51
lordcirth!ask | workshop13:52
ubottuworkshop: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:52
workshopi can't boot gnome*, locked out. (cryptswap)13:52
strkit's in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libicuuc.so.5213:52
workshoptried using live disc to reset some permissions but obv didnt work13:52
workshophey thanks ubottu13:52
strkbut it is not in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu13:53
workshopOK, sorry, let me start over, sorr everyone, and thank you.13:53
genuineI have a question13:53
genuinecan someone answer me13:54
strkit seems to be a 32bit vs. 64bit compatibility layer, could it be ?13:54
workshop!ask can't boot gnome, locked out (cryptswap)....tried resetting some permissions using live disc but obviously that is not the way to go, would truly appreciate some help13:54
ubottuworkshop: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:54
workshopOkay thank you robot, Youre still polite anyway.13:54
strkactually, for some reason libreaoffice looks for libicuuc 52 but only 55 is available13:54
strk-> http://strk.kbt.io/tmp/deps13:56
genuinewhy is no one answering me13:56
SpeccyManperhaps if you ask your actual question ............................. ?13:56
workshopbecause, "!patience" i hope13:57
genuineafter I install ubuntu and do updates I can't load it anymore13:57
workshopwhich is not asking a lot, all things considered13:57
genuineit shows black screen after reboot13:57
workshopgenuine, maybe graphics driver?13:58
genuineI have amd 2 gb13:58
genuineradeon13:58
workshopdistro?13:58
genuine16.0413:58
kk4ewtdoes ubuntu keep older kernels ?13:58
lordcirthkk4ewt, yes13:59
genuineit uses the default kernel13:59
genuineafter update I don't know what it uses13:59
genuineit won't let me start13:59
lordcirthkk4ewt, in the grub menu you can choose older kernels, if you haven't autoremoved them13:59
lordcirthgenuine, have you tried switching to a tty?14:00
kk4ewtlordcirth,  how many by default ?14:00
genuinewhat is tty14:00
lordcirthkk4ewt, I'm not sure.  I think all until you autoremove.14:00
workshopso how do i unlock my cryptswap or whatever? i dont even have a crypt swap that i know of. my system is just like, locked14:00
lordcirthgenuine, a virtual terminal.  Press Ctrl-Alt-F2.14:00
workshoplke cant write to locked files, so cant boot14:00
genuinewhen14:00
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ottoI have NAS with NFS server. I'm running a script and it uses cp --preserve when copying from local hdd to nas over NFS. I get "Operation not permitted" output from cp and script fails. I cannot edit the script. Is there a way to configure nfs to "allow" chmods?14:01
lordcirthworkshop, cryptswap is handled in /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab14:01
ottousing ubuntu 16.04 and nfs-common client14:01
workshopthank you lordcirth, that sounds like a lead....14:01
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lordcirthotto, are you sure it allows you to cp files without special permissions?14:01
workshoplordcirth should i just like, reset permissions?14:01
lordcirthworkshop, permissions on what, sorry?14:02
kk4ewtotto your user on your local box and the user on the nfs server have the same uid?14:02
ottolet me check14:02
ottonope14:02
kk4ewtbingo14:02
lordcirthotto, nope to my question or kk4ewt ?14:03
workshoplordcirth cant boot gnome because something about crypt swap.... i dont have a partitioned crypt swap though. i was installing apps and updated.14:03
ottonope for kk4ewt14:03
lordcirthworkshop, pastebin the full error message, please.  Don't paraphrase.14:03
ScootyIs something wrong with ubuntu 16.04 apt-get? I've updated a chroot image from 14.04 to 16.04 through do-release-update, now apt cannot resolve to any ubuntu archives, while ping and nslookup has no problem14:03
lordcirthotto, well, that would do it then.14:03
workshopokay i'll have to go pen and paper status then and it'll take me a while. thanks. i can pay you if you can actually help me. lordcirth14:04
lordcirthworkshop, I will not be here in a few minutes, but I'm sure someone else will be able to help given a clear error message.14:04
ottolordcirth, local user id 1000 and on nas 1021, do I need to edit user ids or is there option for fstab line to set uid, somehow?14:04
workshopk, spanks14:04
lordcirthotto, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/nfs-how-to-align-uid-gid-4175519504-print/14:05
workshopi dont even know how to copy and past my boot errors.14:10
ChetManlydo I have to install something from guest additions cd to make full screen in buntu guest?14:10
ChetManlyvbox14:10
workshopi remember though boot would just freeze on 'starting system job' dev-mapper-cryptswap1.device14:10
workshopsomeone14:11
crazyadmubuntu must use grub?14:11
crazyadmcan it use other boot loader instead?14:11
crazyadmgrub is giving me problems14:11
workshopi used uh....14:11
workshopLilo14:11
workshopfor a while14:11
workshopfor boot14:12
zarkovLilo ;)14:12
workshoplol, right?14:12
workshopis that my answer too?14:12
crazyadmcan i use lilo when install?14:12
zarkovi actually use lilo on one of my vintage 486 systems to bootstrap debian !!14:12
crazyadmis lilo what centos use?14:13
ChetManlyI didnt remember doing this ubuntu oses just windows14:13
zarkovyou can use lilo with ubuntu lol14:13
workshopthe visuals are fresh af, but im a retrogamer and weirdo so14:13
zarkovim unsure why14:13
crazyadm486 should run dos14:13
workshop"loading linux........................" lolz14:13
crazyadmhow do i make it lilo when install14:14
crazyadmi really dislike grub14:14
workshopcrazyadm14:14
crazyadmit's buggy14:14
workshopget synaptic package manager14:14
workshopsudo apt-get install synaptic14:14
DJonescrazyadm: This might give you some info about lilo http://askubuntu.com/questions/135426/what-is-lilo-and-its-uses14:14
workshopthen get lilo package14:14
workshopAND FOLLOW THE SCRIPTS14:14
workshopdont half-butt it14:15
crazyadmi  can't even boot into the new installation of ubuntu14:15
crazyadmbecause of failing grub14:15
ChetManlyhmm full screen14:15
ChetManlyneato14:15
workshopcrazyadm lilo will help u if you install it right14:15
crazyadmhow do i install wrong14:16
workshopby not running the commands in terminal it tells you to at the end14:16
workshopits like two commands14:16
crazyadmis there a chance to install wrong? im installing with server iso14:16
workshopserver iso...? like, netboot? server install?14:17
crazyadmyes server install14:17
workshopYou'll be okay, i can help you14:17
workshopBut like, disclaimer; i'm just another user14:17
crazyadmit's same as ubuntu desktop if i install ubuntu-desktop to it?14:17
ottolordcirth, I believe I wasn't able to graps what I should do :)14:17
workshopcrazyadm its just a boot thing. like grub14:18
crazyadmi mean server iso + ubuntu-desktop = ubuntu-desktop.iso?14:18
workshopcrazyadm that i cant help you with..... why not just install off USB?14:19
crazyadmit's vm14:19
crazyadmvmware workstation14:19
workshopoh, dunno dude14:19
workshopsorry mate14:19
crazyadmubuntu installation seems unreliable, it always fails14:20
crazyadmor halt14:20
ottolordcirth, nevermind, I got it, idmapping was disabled by default in ubuntu 16.04 nfs-common14:20
kk4ewtcrazyadm,  you sure its not vmware14:20
crazyadmit failed at grub again...14:22
workshoplordcirth you still there mate14:22
ottothanks kk4ewt also for the help :)14:22
crazyadmnow what do i do14:23
workshopi opened etc/crypttab and etc/fstab in text editor but dont know where to go from here. !ask14:23
workshopi've crashed and started over so many times lately, i just want to cry.14:26
workshopi'm so tired of it.14:26
workshopi'm learning a lot in the process....but it's painful14:26
kk4ewtotto i am new to ubuntu but i have using linux since rhl4.2  and fedora since, and i have used nfs  for years and that is the most common error14:28
crazyadmim in rescue mode14:28
crazyadmhow do i install lilo instead of stupid piece of grub14:28
crazyadmreally hate grub14:29
kk4ewtcrazyadm,  time for you to get in the 21st century14:29
workshopcrazyadm PM me, i can help you install lilo. beyond that, i dunno. and i'm not a technician. but i can get you through that14:29
ottokk4ewt, I've used different distros since 1990s and nfs or 10 years and it took me this long to actually realize this error :)14:29
crazyadm21st keeps failing to install14:30
crazyadmgrub is buggy14:30
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ottokk4ewt, in term of perforamnce, I use nfsv4 32kb buffers, async and auto fstab options... any other options for stab line that might improve performance of nfs? my nas that is running NFS server is the bottleneck of my setup...internal NAS write speeds are 100MB/s, but over nfs absolute maximum 60MB/s and CPU and IO hit 100%.14:31
workshopI remember what it was (my problem).............I was installing updates, and cryptsetup configuration came up, i must have hit the wrong thing14:31
workshopso if anyone can unlock me out of my system14:32
workshopI'll pay you and shower you with affection14:32
workshopi'll just stay logged on for a while14:32
crazyadmthere is no lilo too14:33
crazyadmin rescue mode14:33
ScootyNvm android selinux was messing with me14:33
workshopcrazyadm is it connected to internet?14:33
workshopif so just run the dang diddly root terminal sudo apt install lilo14:34
workshopthen it will tell you to run two scripts at the end of install, do that.14:34
workshopthen reboot14:34
crazyadmi think so14:34
crazyadmi seen alot people has grub problem14:35
workshopi did at first.... and prob will again14:35
crazyadmhttp://superuser.com/questions/845630/ubuntu-server-14-04-lts-grub-fails-to-install-on-a-vm14:36
TameikiHello, anyone know where are NFS logfile ? I have a problem with my NFS server (every config is ok but I can't see my stuff) and I'm looking for the logfile...14:37
workshopso, really? no one knows just off hand how to fix this cryptsetup/cryptswap lock thing?14:40
workshopdang14:42
workshopdo i just delete C:/ ?14:42
Hexhello world14:43
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workshophey Hex14:43
kk4ewtworkshop,  so you are running ubuntu in win10?14:43
Guest85640hey workshop14:43
Guest85640whaaaaaaaaaaaat14:43
Guest85640my nick name is changed14:44
workshopkk4ewt nah, "Do i just delete C:/ ?" was my attempt at humor, thought maybe itd win me some points14:44
workshophttps://youtu.be/GaM62WECUaU14:47
siva_machinaworkshop, If you are Windows 10. You can rm -rf it now14:47
workshopcrazyadm theres your tutorial mate ^14:47
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crazyadmas they say, i have to have /boot / and swap14:48
crazyadmso i'm retrying14:48
workshopi'm on gnome and locked out siva_machina14:48
workshopbecause cryptsetup did some bs14:49
crazyadmweekend is too short14:50
crazyadmhave to work tommorow14:50
crazyadmstill need to do pressure test on load-balanced web server with php14:50
workshopjust delete c:/ dude14:51
workshopand then watch hackers14:51
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calprost3hello, ubuntu hangs at boot screen on a dedicated server, anyone can help in private or something?14:53
crazyadmsomehow, haproxy+varnish+nginx+php+mysql+redis+memcached, is not as good as  nginx+php+mysql+redis+memcached14:54
crazyadmperformance wise14:54
workshophttps://youtu.be/Rn2cf_wJ4f414:55
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ChetManlyso you dont need curl and lm-sensors and such for conky anymore?14:57
apofisbuenas a todos....hace mucho que no entro en IRC14:59
apofissabeis si hay canales de especializados en Informática, sistemas?14:59
apofisalguien me podría indicar alguna sala que hablen sobre estos temas?15:02
ChetManlyseems to be working without them15:03
EriC^^!es | apofis15:04
ubottuapofis: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:04
bOmBerOholaaaa15:04
workshopsup15:04
apofissorry ....thanks15:04
bOmBerOekaitz15:04
workshopcan you unlock me back into gnome? cryptswap screwed me. ive deleted C:/ and watched Hackers with matthew lilard but nothing yet15:05
bOmBerOsiii15:06
Cruelplatypus67hi15:10
DM_hi15:11
Cruelplatypus67dm15:12
Cruelplatypus67you use ubuntu??15:12
Cruelplatypus67anyone willing to make a conversation??15:14
SchrodingersScat!offtopic | Cruelplatypus67, this channel is for ubuntu support, for small talk and chit-chat try #ubuntu-offtopic after !register[ing]15:14
ubottuCruelplatypus67, this channel is for ubuntu support, for small talk and chit-chat try #ubuntu-offtopic after !register[ing]: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:14
workshopyeah sup15:14
workshopi'm trying to get help but *shrug*15:15
workshopif anyone can direct me to a good place to get paid help, even, thatd work15:15
SchrodingersScatworkshop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto3#Manual_Mounting_and_Unmounting ?15:17
workshophey, thanks for the lead. truly appreciate it, hope i havent been too much of a bother this morning15:17
workshopWill check out15:17
workshop<315:17
SchrodingersScatworkshop: are you working off a liveusb?15:18
SchrodingersScatworkshop: I would think you would need to watch up to at least Hackers 2: Antitrust before being able to debug crypt problems.15:19
workshopSchrodingersScat15:23
workshopSchrodingersScat15:23
workshopSchrodingersScat GOOD CALL15:23
workshopwhoops on the x315:23
workshopI LIKE THE CUT OF YOUR JIB15:23
workshopand yes i'm on live boot gnome usb15:23
workshopthanks for taking interest15:23
jon__hi. i see multiple cards in `ls /proc/asound/card*/` output (and multiple selections in alsamixer), but only one in `pacmd list-cards` (the wrong one - my hdmi port). can someone suggest how to force my sound to the correct card?15:24
SchrodingersScatworkshop: I don't have much experience though, if my FDE fails I'll probably just pull from backups ;(15:24
gtxbbworkshop, try #flood15:25
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Guest56086Vi skal ikke si noe til Ubuntu15:27
workshophey thanks guys15:27
SchrodingersScat!swe | Guest5608615:27
zteamHi all!15:27
congtitfooo!ops15:28
DM_zteam: hi15:28
congtitfoooDid Justin Bieber see selena gomez naked?15:28
zteamI recently bought a new computer, but now then I booted up Ubuntu I hear a constant clicking sound from my built-in soundcard motherboard15:28
workshopWhy do you ask15:28
SchrodingersScat!guidelines | congtitfooo, this channel is for #ubuntu support, and that question's probably not welcome in #u-o either.15:29
ubottucongtitfooo, this channel is for #ubuntu support, and that question's probably not welcome in #u-o either.: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines15:29
zteamwhich I can't seem to get rid of15:29
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congtitfoooDid Justin Bieber see selena gomez naked?15:29
congtitfooo!ops | SchrodingersScat15:29
gtxbbcongtitfooo, #justinbieber15:31
gtxbbcongtitfooo, we know you love him.15:31
adamicroncan a network connection configuration set proxy settings as well?15:31
zteamI'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with this motherboard http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5808#ov15:32
workshopSchrodingersScat15:32
workshopSchrodingersScat15:32
workshopSchrodingersScat you on often?15:32
SchrodingersScatworkshop: quite a bit.  If you hang around though and ask your question on one line occasionally then someone knowledgeable about it will likely be active at some point.15:33
workshopNice.15:34
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workshopIf i can ever actually get up and running, i'd love to become more active in the community15:34
workshopBut i get closer each time15:35
SchrodingersScatnot sure what your actual errors were, you may want to prep a pastebin, etc.15:35
workshopFor sure, where can i see my boot errors?15:36
workshopespecially since, ya know... it doesnt boot.15:37
workshopi guess i could write it by hand15:37
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andreahi15:37
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workshopthatd be super nerdy and time consuming15:37
anddamworkshop: it's someplace in logs15:38
Guest37690i'm a dog15:38
workshop....k15:38
SchrodingersScatthere's /var/log/boot.log, but if the crypted partition isn't mounting...would that be touched?15:38
anddamI figure systemd nowadays, so maybe journalctl15:38
workshopsigh15:38
workshopThanks guize15:38
anddamGuest37690: no you're not15:38
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Guest10428hey all I'm having a bit of an issue trying to install AMD catalyst control center on ubuntu 14.0415:39
Guest10428it says that it's missing version.lh in the linux headers but they are installed also I'm noticing a lot of xenial software when I try to upgrade even though I'm on 14.0415:40
Guest10428I was suggested to install linux-generic15:40
Guest10428but when I do that I'm unable to boot15:40
Guest10428I've already reinstalled 3 times15:40
andrea_hi15:41
andrea_hi15:42
workshopso, dang, this room must just be hit-and-runners filtering in and out all day of people who deleted C:/15:42
andrea_hi15:43
przemekjoin /clojure-spec15:44
anddamprzemek: fail15:44
Guest10428I'm following this guide: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2243387 but I'm having trouble installing both the depencies and the graphics driver15:44
gtxbbGuest10428, uh15:45
gtxbbGuest10428, newer distros supports newer kernels -- which means improved video support15:46
workshopthat justin bieber kid must be starting to memorize jokes from captain billy's wiz-bang15:46
Guest10428for some reason I can't install the proprietary graphics drivers of AMD on a xenial system because they've removed it or something?15:47
Guest10428so I wanted to try it out with a 14.04 system for sgminer mining15:47
gtxbbGuest10428, there's the amd site which has a linux download link but i'm not familiar with crimson15:47
gtxbbGuest10428, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Radeon_Software_Crimson15:48
Guest10428thanks gtxbb I'll have a look15:48
Phryqso why do printers work out of the box in Ubuntu? What magic is this?15:50
MrBlankHello ?15:51
MrBlankHi,could you help me ?15:52
SchrodingersScatPhryq: some work better than others.  My landlord's lexmark is unpossible.15:52
SchrodingersScat!ask | MrBlank15:52
ubottuMrBlank: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:52
tonytgetting an error "configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables15:52
tonytis there anyway to fix that?15:53
crazyadmsure15:53
nightfurygood morning all15:53
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crazyadmyou installed gcc-c++?15:53
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DM_good evening15:53
crazyadmgood night15:53
tonytcrazyadm dont think so. its a new install of ubuntu15:53
MrBlankOk,so I want to install ubuntu 14 to an supermicro server and when i am done to install it's just doesn t boot in,it stays adding 800...k to swap priority 1 and then something wioth Watchdog hardlock on cpu #6 or another number15:53
MrBlankCan anyone help me ?15:54
tonytcrazyadm sudo apt-get install gcc-c++ should fix it then?15:54
crazyadmyou can try15:54
tonytk i will. thanks15:54
tonytthat didnt work15:54
crazyadm install build-essential15:56
MrBlankNo one can help me :( ?15:56
tonytk15:56
Guest14567%n NightFury15:57
MrBlankno one ?16:00
workshopoh, was directing me to #flood supposed to be a funny? My bad, sincerely, if i messed up the rhythm16:02
sarekAnyone know of either an imagehost website that allows custom domains or a self-hosted solution(software) that allows short URLs like imgur?16:03
nightfury_good morning everyone16:09
sunstarsarek, no but i know a script for a site like that you can host urself or throw on a free host16:17
sarekcool sunstar . whats that16:17
utabakI just did a fresh install of 16.04 on my new laptop(other one) but can not login and get a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F1 also16:17
utabakI read that the problem is related to nvidia drivers16:18
utabakbut I can not get any terminals at the moment16:18
XupaCabra??16:23
sareksunstar ?16:26
sunstarsarek, sorry turns out its not in my collection and i dont remember the name so i went hunting it down whch is proving harder than expected16:27
sarekok16:27
sareknp16:27
utabaklogin problem with my new zbook16:27
freelancerbobhi i have problem with some videos in opera browser16:27
freelancerbobfor example http://www.mojevideo.sk/video/28629/ktora_gulocka_bude_prva_v_cieli.html16:27
freelancerbobin chrome it works ok16:27
freelancerbobin mozilla it work ok as well16:27
utabakI just did a fresh install of 16.04 but I can not login or get a command line to fix the problem16:32
utabakit seems that there is a problem related to the nvidia drivers16:32
sunstarsarek, sorry im unable to find the exact one.  theres tons of  Image Sharing Scripts out there16:32
utabakis anyone reading my messages, it has been some time since I used IRC16:33
rkadranoutabak i read you16:34
sunstarutabak,  so you cant log in.. what is it doing / what do you see?16:34
utabakok thx16:34
rkadranofirst... you can't lgin session or terminal toot?16:34
utabak@sunstar: I get to the login screen fine16:34
utabak@sunstar: then I type the password and accepted then freezes16:34
utabak@sunstar: If I try to get a command line then freezes again16:35
rkadranoutabak... Ok, it acept your pass but don't load session.. isn't it?16:35
utabak@rkadrano: yes16:35
rkadranoand when you try to nter via terminal seem problm?16:36
utabak@rkadrano: if I type password, I freeze where I am graphically16:36
utabak@rkadrano: I can not get a terminal, I am getting a black screen and freezes16:36
rkadranoutabak, do you try to enter in restor mode? in terminal mode?16:36
utabak@rkadrano: that is the situation now16:37
utabak@rkadrano: you mean recovery mode16:37
rkadranooh! ok.... It's the first time that this issue appear?16:38
utabak@rkadrano: yes, it is my first touch with 16.04 on my new laptop16:38
rkadranook, what model of laptop do you have? and chipset?16:39
utabak@rkadrano: it also hanged on when I wanted to restart after the installation is complete16:39
utabak@rkadrano: hp zbook studio g316:39
rkadranomeaby this question seems stupid... but, do you remove DVD or storage with the UBUNTU boot?16:40
rkadranook, let me check it ;)16:40
utabak@rkadrano: let me see the exact numbers16:40
utabak@rkadrano: I7-6700HQ16:41
gtxbbutabak, maybe you need to disable/blacklist nouveau16:41
utabak@gtxbb: I am not sure what the problem is16:42
gtxbbutabak, (try doing this by using init=/bin/bash to the boot line -- to force using a rescue shell)16:42
tonytis it possible to ssh into the local linux machine? i tried localhost as the host and also 127.0.0.1. i get a connection refused16:42
gtxbbutabak, nouveau driver might still be active, it can conflict with the nvidia driver16:42
utabak@gtxbb: I can not get a terminal at the moment16:42
gtxbbutabak, so you need to find a way to disable/blacklist it16:42
utabakgtxbb: hmm, ok, I see16:42
gtxbbutabak, i explained you can get to a rescue shell -- but it'll take a bit of effort to append a kernel boot-line change on the grub boot menu16:43
theoceaniscool@tonyt, Are you executing a SSH server?16:43
tonytno. just using a ssh client called securecrt16:43
utabakgtxxb: ok16:43
gtxbbutabak, you should already have alternative boot-options with grub already with 'rescue'16:44
gtxbbutabak, (By default)16:44
theoceaniscool@tonyt, If you are not executing a SSH server it wont work16:44
utabak@gtxbb: ok, I am trying to read about that at the moment on the other screen16:44
theoceaniscool@tonyt You can try OpenSSH server16:44
tonytso i have to isntall a ssh server then theoceaniscool?16:44
theoceaniscool@tonyt, yes16:44
tonytk ill give that a shot theoceaniscool. thanks16:44
rkadranoutabak, can you insert the UBUNTU DVD or stick Installer and try to us it on live?16:45
utabak@gtxbb: let me reboot and get into the boot-options once more then I will ask once more16:45
utabak@rkadrano: hmm, ok, I will perform the necessary changes there on then?16:45
utabak@gtxbb: let me get to the boot-options first16:46
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rkadranoutabak, we gonna try the UBUNTU environment via DVD, if it works maybe we need enter in the BIOS or change boot parameters16:47
utabak@rkadrano, no dvd on the laptop ;-), I have a bootable flash16:47
rkadranook ;) I'm older, you know hahahahaha16:48
utabak@gtxbb: it also makes a very loud sound until it comes to the graphical login page16:48
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theoceaniscool@utabak, Can you describe the noise?16:49
utabak@theoceaniscool: it is very loud booming noise16:49
utabak@theoceaniscool: well, how can I describe a sound, btw ;-)16:50
gtxbbutabak, how does the sound go? chuck chuk screech poof poof poof?16:50
gtxbbutabak, or just click poof?16:50
rkadranotheoceaniscool, Him laptop can't load desktop after login, it turns freeze16:50
gtxbbutabak, or maybe clickatee clickatee whisp whips wickles16:50
utabak@gtxbb: no, it is a continous sound of low frequency that is what I can tell16:51
theoceaniscool@rkdrano, Fresh install?16:51
gtxbbutabak, what kernel edition are you using?16:51
gtxbbutabak, ./distro release (14.04?)16:51
rkadranotheoceaniscool, sure, he told that...16:51
utabakgtxbb: whatever 16.04 LTS is using16:51
theoceaniscool@rkdrano, Sorry I think I joined after that16:51
utabak@gtxbb: I am not sure at the moment16:51
gtxbbutabak, that could be a sound from the video chip16:51
nokoszkoHello!16:52
rkadranotheoceaniscool, no problem dude ;) we are community ;)16:52
utabakgtxbb: could be I just wanted to mention it16:52
gtxbbutabak, or one of the on-board things from the motherboard16:52
gtxbbutabak, do you get screen tearing?16:52
utabak@gtxbb: no, not at all16:52
tonytanyone know the command to make nano the defualt editor?16:53
nokoszkoI wanted to play Warcraft 3: The frozen throne via lan with my friend. We both run linuxes (i use ubuntu he uses manjaro). But we dont see each other in game, but we are in the same hamachi network16:53
utabak@gtxbb, I just hear the sound and see the ubuntu title and that is all up to the login screen16:53
nokoszkohttps://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3126 - they say to set a default gateway to fix this16:53
rkadranotonyt, seriously??? use VI... VI rules dude!16:53
nokoszkocan anyone tell me how to do this?16:53
gtxbbutabak, i don't think you researched anything i told you about16:54
gtxbbutabak, for that I am out16:54
rkadranotonyt, EDITOR=nano with root user16:54
utabak@gtxbb: by the way, if I try to restart from the login screen, again I get a freeze :-(16:54
theoceaniscool@tonyt, `export EDITOR=nano`16:54
theoceaniscool@tonyt you can also change it in .bashrc16:54
utabak@gtxbb: that is what I am reading now16:54
theoceaniscool@tonyt or wathever shell you are using16:55
rkadranotheoceaniscool, you type faster than me XD16:55
utabak@gtxbb: getting a secure shell16:55
utabak@gtxbb: but I could not get to the bios for some reason at my first try16:55
gtxbbI never even mentioned about "bios"16:56
rkadranoutabak, try 1- change the UEFI boot option to legacy boot option16:56
rkadrano2- change the Hybrid Graphics option to Discrete Graphics option16:56
* gtxbb ignores utabak 16:56
utabak@gtxbb: so sad :(16:56
gtxbbrkadrano, you help him16:56
utabak@rkadrano: ok, let me see16:57
rkadranogtxbb, i'll try...16:57
utabak@gtxbb: or her ;-)16:57
rkadranoutabak, Bazinga16:57
rkadrano!16:57
rkadranoLOL16:57
rkadranoutabak, 5 seconds to leave the ignore form him... or her16:58
utabak@rkadrano: restart and freeze again, now powering off16:58
utabak@rkadrano: ??16:58
rkadranoutabak, ok... try to run live Flash UBUNTU16:58
rkadranoutabak, when it load select the TRY IT option.16:59
rkadranoI don't know how is in english, my installation is spanish XD utabak17:00
utabak@rkadrano: Ok I am in17:00
utabak@rkadrano: let me go to the boot-options17:00
rkadranoutabak, ok17:00
utabak@rkadrano, shall I also look at secure boot options, or do you want me to try the live installation to get a shell17:01
tonytthanks theoceaniscool. that worked17:01
nokoszkoguys17:01
nokoszkohow to route 255.255.255.255 to my local network on ubuntu 16.04?17:01
utabak@rkadrano, ok I see the boot options17:02
theoceaniscool@nokozsko, thats the broadcast adress17:02
nokoszkoyeah, but i need it to fix lan problems on wine17:02
rkadranoutabak, When you are running the UBUNTU Flash or DVD installer, you'll see two option first. TRY or install.17:03
nokoszkotheoceaniscool, do u know how to do this? Will it break my network settings?17:03
theoceaniscool@nokozsko, I don't understand what you call local network17:04
kk4ewtnokoszko, yes that will break your lan17:04
rkadranoutabak, and?17:05
utabak@rkadrano, missing the bios entry every time17:05
theoceaniscool@nokoszko, unless you have touched some routing table, any package without a specific destination should go to your gateway (your router)17:06
rkadranowhat!? utabak17:06
nokoszkotheoceaniscool, kk4ewt well, https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3126 it says to route that ip to my local network, so I could see other players on lan17:06
utabak@rkadrano ok I got it this time17:06
utabak@rkadrano: got to the try selection17:06
nokoszkoI mean, we are in the same hamachi network and it works in other games, but doesnt for WC317:06
theoceaniscool@nokoszko, You should have a default gateway already17:07
rkadranoutabak, cheers! thats correct17:07
theoceaniscool@nokozsko, open ports?17:07
utabak@rkadrano: yes, ta da, black screen17:07
nokoszkotheoceaniscool, i think they are already opened - i dont have a router, I use a cable modem17:07
utabak@rkadrano: hangs on the black screen17:08
Salahhello every body17:08
rkadranoOk, we gonna wait for a pair of minutes, ok?17:08
kk4ewtnokoszko,  255.255.255.255 means you have 2 computers on the network and one of those is the broadcast address so no you will be able have anyone else on the network but your one machine17:08
utabak@rkadrano: ok, strange enough, I can not try it even17:08
ati_090To join a channel type: /JOIN #hellow to all...!!  i am new to ubuntu...i am facing brightness and double clicking on touchpad issues? any would be very appriciated17:08
rkadranoutabak, Ok, we gonna wait for a pair of minutes, ok17:08
OerHeks255.255.255.0 would do17:08
utabak@rkadrano: ok17:09
nokoszkokk4ewt, so it does apply to hamachi as well?17:09
rkadranoutabak, give me time to learn about your BIOS. Could ou please give me your Graphic card model?17:09
kk4ewtnokoszko,  it applies to ip networks17:10
Salahhellp17:10
Salahheeeeeeeeelp17:10
kk4ewtSalah,  no17:10
ati_090intell graphics hd 400017:10
Salahwhy no17:10
nokoszkokk4ewt, well, then do you have any idea how to make wc3 lan work on hamachi?17:10
utabak@rkadrano: still waiting17:10
kk4ewt!ask |s Salah17:10
ubottus Salah: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:10
kk4ewtSalah,  no one here is a mind reader17:11
rkadranoutabak, ok... enought, it crash.. Why? I don't know, but I help you. Could you please give me your Grapic card model?17:12
nokoszkokk4ewt, https://www.winehq.org/wwn/62 can  you look at network broadcast issues? Isn't that outdated?17:12
Salahi cant change letters from capptial or small17:12
akiknokoszko: how many other programs do you have working over hamachi?17:12
utabak@rkadrano: sure let me check17:12
nokoszkowell mostly games, but at least 4-5 work17:12
just-nowHi there, I just installed a new version of vim on my ubuntu 15.04 but I was wondering if I can pass configuration flags to the install line, does anyone know?17:12
theoceaniscool@Salah, Do you mean CapsLock does not work?17:12
utabak@rkadrano: thx17:12
nokoszkoakik, at least 4-5 games work17:13
theoceaniscool@just-now, search ".vimrc"17:13
akiknokoszko: so it's not the hamachi connection that is not working, but wc3?17:13
nokoszkoakik, yeah, wine says so17:13
just-nowtheoceaniscool, in this channel?17:13
nokoszkoakik, could you look on network issues here? https://www.winehq.org/wwn/6217:13
theoceaniscool@just-now, In Google17:13
Salahno capslock enabled but i cant write - underscol17:13
nokoszkoakik, i'm not sure if that's outdated or not17:13
akiknokoszko: sorry, never used hamachi or wc317:13
rkadranoutabak, we gonna try other thing. Start your laptop normally without booteable flash17:14
theoceaniscool@Salah, Do you mean you enable CapsLock but it writes in lowercases?17:14
just-nowtheoceaniscool, i mean I know what a vim configuration file is... but I don't think I can make certain features active after it has been compiled, unless there is more I don't know there17:14
nokoszkoakik, ok i understand17:14
utabak@rkadrano: Intel HD Graphics 53017:14
theoceaniscool@just-now, The .vimrc is not compiled, it just contains a bunch of commands that vim executes automatically on start17:14
utabak@rkadrano: NVIDIA Quadro M1000M17:14
rkadranoutabak, cool! extract flash driv and reboot please17:15
theoceaniscool@just-now, Oh, do you mean in Vim...17:15
Salahno my friend i WRITE YOU SEE but i cant write underscol see -----------17:15
just-nowtheoceaniscool, right, so the current situation is that my vim currently doesn't have python support, and I got it from a ppa, and I was wondering if I can change something about the installation to make this happen.17:15
utabak@rkadrano, to the login screen ?17:15
rkadranoyep utabak17:15
theoceaniscool@just-now, python support in syntax higlight?17:15
utabak@rkadrano: ok17:16
theoceaniscool@Salah, try Shift+-17:16
just-nowtheoceaniscool, in many things, like right now the youcompleteme plugin isn't active because there is no python support17:16
Salahok wait17:16
OerHeksutabak, I read intel HD530, you might want to check out next release 16.10 with 4.8 kernel.  or wait until oct 20'17:16
utabak@rkadrano, no sound now it was strange17:16
utabak@rkadrano, there17:16
Salahno cant i try this and not working17:17
Salahsee17:17
Salah---===-=-=17:17
rkadranoutabak, step by step... first conquer world, then go to breaksfast XD17:17
rkadranoutabak, ok pres Alt+Ctrl and F217:17
utabak@OerHeks: there is a more serious problem I guess then I can easily solve, am I correct?17:18
rkadranodo you enter in command line?17:18
OerHeksutabak, you have nice fresh hardware, it takes time for linux to support it perfectly.17:18
theoceaniscool@just-now, execute vim --version | grep python, and check if you have +python or +python317:18
utabak@rkadrano, mistake, F3, but no command line17:18
theoceaniscool@Salah, which kind of keyboard are you using?17:18
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Salahmy keyborad bultin17:19
Salahi have lap dell insperion n505017:19
utabak@OerHeks: indeed, I got the laptop but did not have time in the last month to install the latest version and tried this afternoon17:19
theoceaniscool@Salah, I mean which layout17:19
rkadranoutabak, really! OMG... I'm a looser... ok If we can't enter pressing F3, we go to tryother thing17:19
Salahi dont know17:20
utabak@rkadrano: ok cool17:20
Salahyou can come in teamviewer17:20
just-nowtheoceaniscool, haha i think I'm getting around the issue, but thanks. I sure don't have those things in my version, and I already know what I'm going to try instead.17:20
rkadranoutabak, do you have an HDMI or VGA near to conect your laptop to a xternal screen?17:20
utabak@rkadrano: did you see the message from OerHeks on the fresh hardware issue17:20
theoceaniscool@just-now, just curious, from where did you install vim?17:20
utabakrkadrano, yes there is my current laptop that is connected to an external monitor already ;-)17:21
just-nowtheoceaniscool, I just got vim 8 from http://ppa.launchpad.net/jonathonf/vim/ubuntu/dists/17:21
rkadranoutabak, and the xternal monitor don't work too..?17:21
theoceaniscool@Salah, in your physical keyboard, do you have the underscore on top of the - sign?17:21
rkadranoutabak, yes i read her or him.17:21
utabak@rkadrano: if you want me to connect, certainly that will not work because I do not have an adaptor for my new laptop for hdmi to dvi17:22
Salahyes i write underscore in windows but linux i cant17:22
utabak@rkadrano: definitely I can not do this17:22
theoceaniscool@Salah, thats a keyboard layout problem17:22
Salahok how to fix17:23
rkadranoutabak, nooooo.... ok, don't worry...w gonna try more thing before burn your laptop, don't worry17:23
utabak@rkadrano: indeed, 1000 euro laptop ;-)17:23
OerHeksrkadrano, utabak all i know is these ugly boot parameters > i915.preliminary_hw_support=1 nouveau.modeset=017:23
theoceaniscool@Salah, try in Settings -> Text input17:24
Salahkeyborad loyout option17:24
rkadranoOerHeks, hehehehe17:24
utabak@OerHeks: the main problem now, I can not get to any kind of terminal17:25
theoceaniscool@Salah, you have to put your own keyboard layout17:25
rkadranoutabak, My laptop 200 euro second hand and works reaaaaaaally fucjing awesome XD17:26
utabak@rkadrano: maybe I am too rich ;-)17:26
utabak@rkadrano: joking17:26
Salah_17:26
Salah-17:26
Salah_17:26
Salah_17:26
Salahhhhh17:26
Salahthanks my friend i love u17:26
rkadranoutabak, heheheheheh maybe... or maybe i'm tooo saver17:27
rkadranoutabak, Kidding...i'm poor.17:27
utabak@rkadrano: me too17:27
sunstarhmm... having a few issues.  1) xrandr does not have my monitor's native resolution listed, im stuck w/ 1024x768.   2) When computer resumes from suspend; or if the computer has sat too long the screen goes off. once back on i get no signal output to the monitor. 3) despite my power settngs, monitor still goes to sleep after a period of time17:27
Salah@theoceaniscool thanks my friend17:27
sunstarubuntu studio 16.0417:28
utabak@OerHeks,@rkadrano: do you think, waiting for a month can save me hours?17:28
rkadranoutabak, the one thusand laptop poor girl or boy ;)17:28
utabak@rkadrano: 1000boy17:29
rkadranoutabak, the 1000 euros boy ;)17:29
utabak@rkadrano: sure17:29
Salahi fix first problem17:30
utabak@rkadrano: do you have more suggestions or should I wait for a month, come on, this is ridicilous, if we can not figure out the problem ;-)17:30
Salahbut i can play game cuse i cant find my driver vega17:31
rkadranoOerHeks, Kernel 4.4-rc3, with Nvidia drivers... utabak17:31
Salahany body can help me17:31
sunstarSalah,  what graphics chip?17:31
Salahintell17:31
rkadranoutabak, we have one dubt17:31
utabak@rkadrano, indeed I also have it on the screen, but I can not get a shell17:31
utabak@rkadrano, to try it out17:32
sunstarintel graphics dont normally need a proprietary driver Salah17:32
rkadranoutabak, you can install it without problems!17:32
utabak@rkadrano, how17:32
Salahwhat prob driver17:32
sunstar?17:32
rkadranoutabak,  for this YOU CAN SEE UBUNTU during the installation...17:32
utabak@rkadrano, certainly17:33
utabak@rkadrano, ubuntu during installation or during start up17:33
utabak@rkadrano, confused17:34
rkadranoutabak, ergo.. what is going on? we have signal from your card, maybe is unity crashing with your card model, but, why terminal don't work?17:34
Salah@sunstar17:34
utabak@rkadrano, indeed that is also what I do not get17:34
Salahwhat do u mean prob driver17:34
rkadranowait for a min dude utabak17:34
utabak@rkadrano: ok dude ;-)17:35
kamangirHi17:35
lordcirthkamangir, hi17:35
bhara7HI17:35
utabak@rkadrano, what a misery, a ferrari sitting on the table with a black screen17:36
Salahany body help me17:36
bhara7Ubuntu OS is addictive guys17:37
kamangirI have replaced my laptop DVD-ROM with a '120 GB SSD within a caddy' to install an ubuntu on it. My laptop has a 1TB HDD originally. Using DVD-ROM port has any affect on speed SSD ability?17:37
kamangirspeed of*17:38
lordcirthkamangir, that depends on the laptop.  Do you know what port it is using internally?>17:38
rkadranouta try to reboot, when UBUNTU load press Alt+Ctrl+(F2, F3 or F1 depeends your machine)17:38
lordcirthkamangir, it is probably SATA 3, if it is a newer laptop?17:38
rkadranoutabak, try to reboot, when UBUNTU load press Alt+Ctrl+(F2, F3 or F1 depeends your machine)17:38
utabak@rkadrano: what you mean by ubuntu load is when I see the ubuntu logo with the ubuntu text??17:39
rkadranoutabak, yep17:39
kamangirlordcirth: I have bought it 11 months ago: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23230297/17:40
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kamangirI mean does it have any different to put SSD in the place of current HDD wich is the original place?17:41
utabak@rkadrano, I guess I saw some lines sliding but I ended up on the login screen once more17:41
utabak@rkadrano: with F217:41
utabak@rkadrano: let me try once more17:42
kk4ewtkamangir,  is that caddy usb or pata or sata17:42
lordcirthkamangir, If it's SATA 3, then it shouldn't make a difference.  You could always just run some benchmarks to see if it's running at full speed.17:42
lordcirthkamangir, just looked up your model, it says it's SATA and "supports all maximum SATA speeds"17:43
utabak@rkadrano, no luck, I saw some lines sliding and again ended up on the login screen17:43
lordcirthkamangir, so that's probably fine.  Use fio to run some benchmarks if you like.17:43
rkadranoutabak, ok ... send me a private message17:44
Salahhello17:44
Salahi have problem with driver17:44
utabak@rkadrano: ok how to send you a private message and with what17:44
kamangirIt's currently recognized as sdb. Can it e changed to sda via UEFI settings or somewhat? lordcirth17:45
lordcirthkamangir, that really depends on your BIOS, they do random different things.  However, in /etc/fstab or whatever, you should only use Labels or UUIDs to refer to drives.17:46
lordcirthkamangir, just set nice labels, and then you can refer to them clearly as /dev/by-label/rootfs and so on.17:46
kamangirAh, OK; Thx17:47
utabak@rkadrano: ok, I see that telegram is a messaging platform, never used it17:47
Salahi cant find my driver vega intell17:48
utabak@rkadrano: ok telegram is there17:49
kk4ewtSalah,  vesa?17:50
utabak@rkadranon: do you have any idea how much time it can take more?? I have to still perform some ironing for tomorrow for work17:51
Salahno vga17:51
Salahintell graphics17:51
lordcirthutabak, to open private messages with a person on irc, do '/query name'17:53
utabak@lordcirth: thx17:54
Salahintel graphics have problem17:58
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splashinghelp me check this link is belong to apple or not :https://survey.apple.com/efm/18:08
k1l_!ot  | splashing18:09
ubottusplashing: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:09
lordcirthsplashing, also, look at the cert, it's verified.18:10
scoutchortonHello18:10
splashinglordcirth, thanks18:10
ajalkaneHi, is a fix for this bug going to make it into Ubuntu 16.04? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=78805018:18
ubottuDebian bug 788050 in systemd "systemd-fsck : Check disks at each reboot" [Important,Fixed]18:18
ajalkaneIt's mighty annoying to wait tens of minutes for the boot to complete because of this.18:18
k1l_ajalkane: file a bug on ubuntu for that or see if there is already one18:19
OerHeksajalkane, seems like fsck fails to fix the problems, not sure it is a fsck issue or your storage.18:19
k1l_ajalkane: but looking in it i dont know if its a systemd issue or if the fsck got some issues it cant fix18:20
OerHeksis there a 'systemd time-out message for a unit shown after a while." ??18:20
ikoniaajalkane: that bug is over a year old18:24
ikoniaand fixed18:24
OerHeks#170 gives that fix release indeed18:26
lordcirthikonia, OerHeks the last entry seems to imply that it was fixed in systemd 231.  I am on 229 in xenial here.  Was it backported?18:27
ikonialordcirth: I'd expect it to trickle down as a back ported fix18:27
ikoniaalthough I'm not sure it's actually as widespread as that bug suggests18:28
ikoniaI'd expect people to be in here/on the forums complaining about it a lot18:28
ikoniathats the first time I've seen it referenced18:28
keymasterhi18:30
keymasteri am new to irc18:30
keymasteris anyone there?18:30
ikoniaover 1400+ people are18:30
keymasteroh ok thats amazing, i can't use hexchat to connect here18:31
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OerHekskeymaster, pretty simple, see 'how to use hexchat' https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/install-use-hexchat-ubuntu-16-0418:34
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pineapplelover_hello I am trying to run dropbox as a service and this guy tells how: http://askubuntu.com/questions/806445/unable-to-run-dropbox-daemon-at-boot but my new /etc/init.d/dropbox.service file doesnt look like the other service files it lacks a tiny curvy arrow at the bottom left of the icon18:39
pineapplelover_and of course it is not working18:39
pineapplelover_when I type sudo service dropbox start18:39
ikoniapineapplelover_: that won't work on 16.0418:39
hartalanhello guys18:40
pineapplelover_it says: Job for dropbox.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status dropbox.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.18:40
ikoniapineapplelover_: yes, it won't work with 16.0418:40
pineapplelover_ikonia: then?18:40
ikoniathen what ?18:40
pineapplelover_how do I get it running at boot18:41
ikoniathere should already be an init unit file for it, so just enable it with systemd, or put it in your desktop startup session18:41
biis#gnucash18:42
OerHekspineapplelover_, why at boot?18:43
pineapplelover_OerHeks: to get my files synchronized18:43
k1l_pineapplelover_: usually the dropbox got nautilus support and is started when loggen in on the desktop18:43
k1l_pineapplelover_: what is the exact issue then? what desktop is in use?18:44
pineapplelover_kubuntu18:44
uRockDoes "wc -l filename" return the number of lines or the number of words? Reason I ask is the "wc" command returns 100 million, yet the program using the file says it only tested 23 million.18:44
ikoniauRock: man wc18:45
ikoniauRock: read what the flags do18:45
k1l_dont know how the kde support of dropbox is. maybe #kubuntu know better.18:45
pineapplelover_the issue was that upgrading to 16.04 made dropbox icon disappear and when I added some files in my dropbox folder they didnt sync because dropbox wasnt running18:45
ikoniaright, because of the change in the init sysstem18:45
k1l_pineapplelover_: it didnt break on ubuntu. that is a kde specific issue18:46
pineapplelover_hmm18:46
pineapplelover_nope18:47
pineapplelover_it was running before18:47
pineapplelover_I mean18:47
ikoniapineapplelover_: when was it running before ?18:47
k1l_pineapplelover_: its still running here.18:47
ikoniak1l_: isn't that because there isa  desktop session for it in ubuntu18:47
pineapplelover_it was running after upgrade18:47
ikoniahe's trying to run it as a service on the system18:47
uRockikonia, it says it reads the number of lines which leaves me scratching my head as to why the other program only sees less than 25% of the lines.18:47
cablophello18:47
OerHeksi would reinstall in such situation, easy peasy18:47
cablopam i right by saying xenial < xenial-security < xenial-updates < xenial-backports ?18:47
ikoniauRock: right, it lists the line count18:47
pineapplelover_I dont know the reason it stopped working18:48
k1l_ikonia: yes, usually that is run desktop user specific.18:48
pineapplelover_thats why I confidently upload some more files this morning18:48
ikoniak1l_: yeah, so that would make sense why it runs on ubuntu, but not kubuntu, and the fact thats he's tried to put an upstart job from 14.04 in place to manage it on 16.04 explains why it won't launch from systemd18:48
k1l_cablop: can you be more specific?18:48
cablopi mean, packages in backports are ahead (higherversions) than packages in updates, and so on18:49
_0xbadc0dehi everyone18:50
_0xbadc0demy computer is an hp with radeon hardware18:50
uRockikonia, Thanks I lust learned that the other progrma skips lines with less than 8 characters.18:50
tptrnick tptr18:51
_0xbadc0deI downloaded ubuntu v16 and inserted it in a USB flashdrive18:51
_0xbadc0deI see the main menu that allows you to install ubuntu18:51
_0xbadc0debut from there I can't proceed18:52
_0xbadc0dewhen I hit install ubuntu my computer shows ubuntu logo18:52
_0xbadc0deand then blackscreen18:52
_0xbadc0denothing18:52
uRock_0xbadc0de, Which version 16, there are two. 16.04 and 16.1018:52
_0xbadc0de0418:53
_0xbadc0decan anyone help me? I have unninstalled windows10 from it18:53
OerHeks_0xbadc0de, and what radeon hardware is this?18:53
compdoc_0xbadc0de, is it a desktop or a laptop?18:53
_0xbadc0deits actually laptop18:54
_0xbadc0deand the hw is the gfx card18:54
OerHeksyou told in #debian a different story18:54
_0xbadc0deerrr...no I didn't18:54
_0xbadc0deI tried debian and it failed with great misery18:54
_0xbadc0deglrx drivers are not properly working on debian18:55
compdoc_0xbadc0de, when you boot ubuntu, doesnt it give you the option to try without installing?18:55
_0xbadc0deyeah18:55
_0xbadc0dethat option shows18:55
OerHeksoke, first name your radeon hw, else it is talking out-of-the-blue18:55
anonymoushi men18:55
uRockIs there an argument for the WC command to ignore lines with less than 8 characters18:55
anonymousi have a problem18:55
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Guest10997hi men18:56
Guest10997i have a problem18:56
uRockthat's sexist18:56
Guest10997with my tor browser18:56
_0xbadc0deokay sec.18:56
compdoc_0xbadc0de, in the laptop's bios/cmos, is there an option to give the video card different amounts of ram? You want to give is as much as you can18:56
Guest10997can you help me18:56
_0xbadc0deR7 25018:56
uRockGuest10997, what is your problem?18:56
_0xbadc0decompdoc: I'll check18:56
Guest10997i have the anonymous iso based on ubunto18:57
Guest10997and the thing is that18:57
Guest10997when i try to open te tor browser18:57
cosmoshi there18:57
Guest10997its says that i cloud not find the file18:57
cosmoswhere is python3-sqlalchemy?18:57
cosmospython3-sqlalchemy-utils are here18:58
cablopto enable the repo xorg-xedgers is a good or bad idea?18:58
_0xbadc0decompdoc: No there isn't18:58
uRockGuest10997, did you move the launcher from within the tor folder?18:59
Guest10997can someone help me18:59
Guest10997xD18:59
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uRockGuest10997, if you are using Tails, then you may want to seek their channel18:59
OerHeks_0xbadc0de, R7 250 is not be supported by the AMDgpu, so radeon is your driver AFAIK19:00
_0xbadc0demaybe I fucked up when I decided to use glrx debian drivers19:00
SchrodingersScat!ohmy | _0xbadc0de19:00
ubottu_0xbadc0de: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList19:00
Jakey3can someone help me troubleshoot why icant connect to my openvpn19:00
uRock!tails19:00
_0xbadc0deOerHeks: wtf19:00
* OerHeks stops helping _0xbadc0de, not the 1st time faul language19:00
Jakey3I followed this guide https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-14-0419:01
cosmoswhere is python3-sqlalchemy? python3-sqlalchemy-utils are here19:01
PCdudeHi all19:01
_0xbadc0dethe point is: GLRX drivers don't work in debian/ i,e, they have no official support,19:01
PCdudeI wanna move my gnome dock from the left side to the middle down side19:02
bekks_0xbadc0de: the point is: you are using drivers which arent intended to be used on Ubuntu :)19:02
_0xbadc0deso I am just trying to figure out If I haven't f*cked my machine upon trying to install and run your major bs.19:02
Bray90820Anyone wanna help me compile a custom kernel I run the kernel-get.sh file it says can't fine linux headers and that the directory "patches/*.patches" isn't found19:02
Jakey3it seems to connect bu not traffic flows19:02
Bray90820https://github.com/burzumishi/linux-baytrail-flexx10/tree/master/kernel19:02
PCdudeI have done it before, but cant remember how. any idea?19:02
Bray90820U am burning ubuntu 16.0419:02
_0xbadc0debekks:19:02
Bray90820*I19:02
_0xbadc0deI just want to install!19:02
_0xbadc0dethats all19:02
_0xbadc0deand I can't19:02
cosmosall fine19:02
Jakey3i looked in sys log files19:02
bekks_0xbadc0de: Install what? Debian drivers?19:02
_0xbadc0debecause when I hit "install ubunto" all I see is a black screen!19:02
Jakey3but can see anything19:02
_0xbadc0deTHE OS for gods sake.19:03
bekks!nomodeset | _0xbadc0de19:03
ubottu_0xbadc0de: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:03
sunstar_0xbadc0de,  when you boot the disk/USB right b4 it starts booting the computer start hittng the F6 key on you'r keyboard then select language then hit F6 again and select nomodeset19:03
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Jakey3is it possible my router blocks port 1194?19:05
sunstaryes19:05
bekksSure.19:05
_0xbadc0deso I just add nomodeset to the system booting script19:05
k1l_PCdude: gnome or unity?19:06
PCdudek1l_: gnome19:06
Guest10997how da fuck can i use the tor broser19:06
bekks_0xbadc0de: No, you add nomodeset to the kernel command line options.19:06
k1l__0xbadc0de: read the forums post linked by the bot. it explains how to use it19:06
MonkeyDustGuest10997  install it, then open it19:06
k1l_PCdude: i dont know if that works for gome.shell. i know it works for unity19:07
uRocklol19:07
PCdudek1l_: uhm, weird, I had it before on a different machine19:08
mlvmhnis there any bittorrent client builtin on ubuntu 16.04 lts?19:10
uRockmlvmhn, transmission19:10
MonkeyDustmlvmhn  transmission19:10
PCdudemlvmhn: transmission19:10
MonkeyDustuRock  was faster19:10
uRocklol19:10
PCdudefuck sake19:10
MonkeyDustPCdude  language19:10
Guest10997do you know anonymous ISO19:10
uRockLanguage19:10
steven2016nop19:10
Guest10997fckkkkk19:10
steven2016am new here19:10
PCdudeyeah sorry guys I know19:11
steven2016you mean Ubuntu iso?19:11
kk4ewtyes19:12
kk4ewtand in the install19:12
steven2016yes, i can help19:12
k1l_Guest10997: please dont use that language in here and the focus of this channel is ubuntu. for other linux distributions you want to ask in ##linux19:12
uRockhe's gone19:12
k1l_uRock: 1 second before i hit enter....19:13
uRockyup19:13
SchrodingersScatmlvmhn: transmission19:13
mlvmhnthx, since i have a laptop with only little memory; is it better to go with the built-in programs?19:13
steven2016why ubuntu  is free?19:14
uRockmlvmhn, I installed and use qbittorent19:14
_0xbadc0deok19:14
uRockbut transmission is fine19:14
_0xbadc0deI did radeon.modeset=019:14
_0xbadc0dedidn't work19:14
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Guest73651l19:15
PCdudesteven2016: the question should be :  "why is windows paid?"19:15
PCdudejk19:15
SchrodingersScat!free | steven201619:15
ubottusteven2016: freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and  http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/licensing19:15
uRockI love ubottu19:16
_0xbadc0defree software suckws19:16
SchrodingersScat!FUD | _0xbadc0de19:16
ubottu_0xbadc0de: Please do not fall prey to, or spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) - it is not welcome here!  Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt19:16
_0xbadc0de>_>19:16
BluesKaj!foss19:16
ubottuFOSS stands for Free and Open Source Software. See !freedom for more info.19:16
_0xbadc0deare you serious?19:16
_0xbadc0decan I sneeze?19:16
OerHeks_0xbadc0de, that is what you said in #debian too19:16
_0xbadc0deor do I have to add a written permission for that?19:17
SchrodingersScat!freedom19:17
ubottufreedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and  http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/licensing19:17
_0xbadc0deOerHeks: makes sense right?19:17
steven2016_this is my second time on Ubuntu19:17
steven2016_i love it19:17
uRock_0xbadc0de, then use Windows19:17
_0xbadc0dethe same person has the same opinion on two different channels19:17
_0xbadc0deuRock19:17
_0xbadc0deyeah I will19:17
BluesKaj_0x19:17
_0xbadc0deI am just trying linux19:17
uRock_0xbadc0de, may be best to try in VM while you study the ins and outs19:18
kk4ewt_0xbadc0de, there are 1999 more linux distros for you to try19:18
uRock_0xbadc0de, some hardware is just a pain to get started on19:18
_0xbadc0deI have used linux in a vm >_>19:19
_0xbadc0defor quite some time now19:19
_0xbadc0deI was trying to use it as host19:19
_0xbadc0dethe see if it actually serves any purpose at all19:19
MonkeyDust_0xbadc0de  http://malaysiandigest.com/technology/482848-linux-is-everywhere-we-show-you-exactly-where.html19:19
uRockIt serves all purposes for me19:19
SchrodingersScatlinux is in all of our hearts19:19
_0xbadc0deI have been using windows for quite some time19:20
_0xbadc0deeverything works19:20
uRockuntil you run updates19:20
_0xbadc0delinux sems okay19:20
_0xbadc0debut from the point of view of actually serving as host its just unbelievably bad19:21
kk4ewtuRock,  unless you run the LTE version of win1019:21
_0xbadc0dedrivers don't work19:21
uRockI get those calls all day, updates happen, then people call me to get their drivers working again19:21
_0xbadc0denothing comes shipped in19:21
BluesKaj_0xbadc0de:  do you have an ubuntu support question ?  If not the suggest you join #ubuntu-offtopic19:21
_0xbadc0deetc, etc and etc19:21
kk4ewt_0xbadc0de, **yawn**19:21
uRockthat's contagious19:22
uRockkk4ewt, we only have one machine runnning 10 and it is pro, so we have been lucky to have few problems19:23
kk4ewtuRock,  all of mine are enterprise and i have about 150 of them19:23
uRockawesome19:24
uRockyay19:24
kk4ewtwell if i had my way they all would be running linux19:24
uRockkk4ewt, we get a few calls from people running linux at my work and we aren't supposed to help them, so I get kudos and chewed out at the same time for helping them19:26
uRockthey usually just have to clear browsing history and others fear Linux has some other magical way that Windows doesn't19:28
Jakey3test19:28
Jakey3Im connected to the vpn server but no traffic can flow19:29
Jakey3there is a tick by the netwrork manager for the vpn19:29
kk4ewtuRock,  i support winblows, linux and Mac19:29
Jakey3but not able to ping19:29
kk4ewtJakey3,  what is the type of vpn19:29
Jakey3openvpn19:30
Jakey3doesnt seem to be a router issue19:30
uRockkk4ewt, We do some support for Macs, mostly tryingto get thermal printers working with safari19:31
speaker1234need help figuring out best approach to raid and partitioned drives when installing server19:33
cablopspeaker, don't go with traditional partitions on servers, use LVM instead19:33
bekksspeaker1234: so do you have a hardware raid controller?19:34
speaker1234ok, that is what I thought19:34
speaker1234bekks: no, using md19:34
uRockspeaker1234, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/advanced-installation.html19:34
bekksspeaker1234: And which raid do you want to setup?19:34
speaker1234zfs on the rest of the storage array19:34
speaker1234bekks: raid 1 (mirroring)19:35
cablopas for RAID you have two scenarios, if the server allows you to set a disk with no RAID mode, then use software RAID; other wise, then build the RAID with whatever comes in the server's hw19:35
speaker1234uRock: thanks for the guide pointer19:35
ronaldsmazitiscan't delete or rename file ubuntu19:36
uRockyw19:36
ronaldsmazitisrm: cannot remove 'nn.jpg.crdownload': No such file or directory19:36
cablopbekks: sw RAID has a little overhead over hw RAID, but can survive the hw dead, so you can easily move the disks and recover things on other devices, even desktop PCs19:36
speaker12341 more Q,  do I need to have a seperate /boot outside of lvm or can I boot right from lvm?19:36
Milw0rmhello19:36
cablopspeaker1234: sw RAID has a little overhead over hw RAID, but can survive the hw dead, so you can easily move the disks and recover things on other devices, even desktop PCs19:37
Jakey3apart from /var/log/syslog anywhere else i can look19:37
Jakey3it connects but i cant ping19:37
cablopspeaker1234: boot appart of the LVM19:37
bekksspeaker1234: you need /boot on raid1, and then setup a second raid1 for the rest of the system.19:37
cablopspeaker1234: the bios hve no way to navigate through the LVM thing19:37
Bashing-omronaldsmazitis: Where are you "looking" for nn.jpg.crdownload ?19:38
SebthreeBQM10HDhi19:38
cablopJakey3: are you pinging on a device that is on a VPN?19:38
Jakey3yes19:38
cablopJakey3: ping from that device back to you, maybe your pings are reaching the other device, but it has no way to reach you19:39
cablopso you are not getting the answers19:39
speaker1234cablop, bekks: Interesting. I remember reading somewhere that Grub had the ability to navigate the LVM maze.19:40
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cablopspeaker1234: yes... the only thing is grub is placed on the /boot partition :P19:40
cablopso you cannot load the grub and initramfs and related stuff19:41
Jakey3cablop, correct19:41
Jakey3100% lost19:41
speaker1234cablop: ah, that makes sense.19:41
cablopspeaker1234: i also suggest you to place the swap outside the LVM19:41
Jakey3cablop, i have those ports open though19:42
Jakey3on my ubuntu19:42
Jakey3must be the router then19:42
uRockJakey3, commercial or home router?19:42
speaker1234cablop: Just to be clear, I build 3 raid sets. First one for/boot the second one for LVM and the third for swap19:42
bekksI'd always place the swap inside the LVM, for being able to easily resize it.19:42
Jakey3uRock, home19:42
uRockHmm, they usually allow ICMP19:43
bekksspeaker1234: I'd not place swap outside the LVM. You cannot resize it in case you need to do so.19:43
cablopspeaker1234: make at least three partitions, /boot, followed by the swap. then a physical LVM volume19:43
cablopspeaker1234: a raid for boot only is too much19:44
NekHello everybody :) .19:44
NekGot a problem with broken packages.19:44
speaker1234bekks, cablop: would the two of you mind describing why the two of you have a difference in approach?19:44
bekksspeaker1234: I already stated my point.19:44
cablopbekks is right, you cannot resize the swap19:45
NekI can't do anything to install a good version of PHP because I have a broken package (php7.0-fpm). The problem appears after upgrade to ubuntu 16.04 (that upgrade php while I was using a ppa).19:45
cablopbut in the other hand swap is a performance killer, so to have it the simpler way is better19:45
speaker1234bekks: right,  You are in favor of the swap partition in LVM because you can resize it19:45
NekI guess I did too much stupid things because I can't do anything to remove this *@_çà&é package.19:46
bekksspeaker1234: Place everything inside LVM, unless it is /boot19:46
Nek(had same problem  on many computers but each time i deal with it)19:46
cablopnowadays you don't resize your swap frequently, and you can have more than one swap partition, so in case, you just add another swap partition inside the LVM19:46
NekCan you help me ?19:46
Jakey3i have19:46
Jakey3IPSec Pass-Through 19:46
Jakey3PPTP Pass-Through 19:46
Jakey3Multicast Pass-Through 19:46
Jakey3 19:46
Jakey3enabled19:46
speaker1234bekks: ok, makes sense.19:46
speaker1234bekks, cablop: thanks for the insights.  off to fight with the ubuntu server installer19:48
cablopspeaker1234: the reasons i suggest you to use the swap outside the LVM are 1. simplicity and better performance; 2 partitions at the beginning are faster than partitions near the end of the disk; 3. hibernation, if you use it, is easier that way; 4. if you have to perform maintenance of the server from a live CD, you can use the swap and not lock the LVM during maintenance19:48
bekksspeaker1234: Why not just install? :)19:48
cablopbekks: check my answer too, in case you have a different opinion about some of my reasons19:48
bekkscablop: Do you have any benchmarks for "swap on md" vs. "swap in LVM on md"? Or are you just assuming things based on humidity and moon phase?19:49
bekkscablop: Unless you do, I'll not discuss it any further ;)19:49
Bashing-om!info php719:49
ubottuPackage php7 does not exist in xenial19:49
Bashing-om!info php619:49
ubottuPackage php6 does not exist in xenial19:49
Bashing-om!info php519:49
ubottuPackage php5 does not exist in xenial19:49
bekks!info php | Bashing-om19:50
ubottuBashing-om: php (source: php-defaults (35ubuntu6)): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (default). In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.0+35ubuntu6 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB19:50
k1l_!info php7.0 | Bashing-om19:50
ubottuBashing-om: php7.0 (source: php7.0): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 7.0.8-0ubuntu0.16.04.2 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 9 kB19:50
cablopbekks: not based on the moon phase, but some linux installers tend to do gross things to swap partitions, like placing unnecesary settings for the LVs that hold them19:51
uRockWho maintains ubottu, it is pretty squared away.19:51
bekkscablop: LVM settings are never placed in swap.19:51
Bashing-ombekks: k1l_ :)19:51
cablopbekks: or placing them at the end of the LVM, causing the disk to do too much head movements just to reach the swap19:51
cablopbekks: i said in the logical volumes that hold the swap19:51
speaker1234bekks: whu not just install??because I'm installing over a Dell  iDRAC remove console and the lag gets to me sometimes :-)19:52
bekkscablop: there are no logical volums holding swap, there are only partitions holding the PV.19:52
cablopbekks: and inside the PV you creat LVs, and assign one LV for the swap19:52
bekkscablop: and there still are no logical partitions inside a PV or VG.19:53
cablopbut you really don't need to snapshot a swap, clone a swap, move the swap chunks while using it, and so on19:53
bekkscablop: there are volumes. totally different from partitions.19:53
k1l_Nek: can you show the errors and output on paste.ubuntu.com and link that here?19:53
cablopbekks: i already know that, this is why they are called logical volumes, LV for short...19:53
bekkscablop: and you dont need to snapshot swap, etc. - but you need to resize it, eventually, and thats what LVM offers you. And thats all this discussion is about.19:54
Bashing-omNek: ^^ so what is installed pastebin ' dpkg -l php* ' And we then see what apt-cache policy thinks.19:54
cablopbekks: yup, it is, but i don't like to lock the VGs cause a swap is in use when doing maintenance to them, i prefer to add a second swap on the VG if needed19:55
bekkscablop: and resizing a swap LV is undiscussably more easy than resizing fs, resizing lv, resizing vg, resizing pv, resizing partition, resize swap partition, resize pv, resize vg, resize lv, resize fs.19:55
cablopbekks: well, that does really depend in how much disk do we have, if i count with 2 TB of drive i just build a big swap and move on19:55
bekkscablop: Two. The scenario we are discussing has two disks. Used as MD RAID1.19:55
cablopyup19:56
speaker1234bekks, cablop: doesn't LVM have it's own raid built-in?19:56
bekksspeaker1234: No.19:56
cablopbekks: yes19:56
cablopbekks: but if you go for software raid use md, it has more support and more tools19:56
cablopsigh19:56
bekksspeaker1234: you can mirror LVs, but you need to place the metadata on a third device, for making them persistent.19:57
cablopi mean speaker1234... just rread my last three lines19:57
cablopspeaker1234: LVM only have mirroring, the equivalent to md RAID 1, but you don't have RAID 5 or 619:57
speaker1234bekks, cablop: thanks again (And I only need mirroring)19:58
cablopspeaker1234: how many real hard drives do you have?19:59
bekksspeaker1234: So use two disks, place a raid1 for /boot, and another raid1 for LVM use. Put everything (besides /boot) in the LVM, and you are good to go.19:59
speaker1234cablop, bekks: 2x500Gb, 4X4Tb 500G raid 1, 4Tb zfs z220:00
bekksspeaker1234: zfs z2? Waste of resources.20:00
cablopspeaker1234: and you plan to use the 2x500Gb for the boot only?20:00
bekksspeaker1234: And far slower than a mirrored vdev containing two devices each.20:00
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speaker1234bekks: no, need the redundancy, snapshots, and future expansion.20:01
speaker1234cablop: yes, the 500g is OS, boot and scratch space20:02
cablopspeaker1234: i suggest you to place /boot swap and system on a RAID made with the 2x500GB (and i still think you are wasting space there) use the rest of the disks for the data (databases, services, etc)20:02
bekksspeaker1234: redundancy is nearly the same, snapshots have nothing to do with your waste of resources, future expansion has nothing to do with your waste of resources, and you choose to use the slowest variant.20:03
bekksspeaker1234: Nonetheless, you are wasting your resources, not mine. *shrug20:03
cablopspeaker1234: but i won't place 4 disks on RAID 1, never, 2 at most, but never 420:03
bekkscablop: he doesnt place them in raid1, he uses ZFS RAIDZ2 on the 4 disks.20:04
NekBashing-om, k1l_ here are some more information: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c158dc0b11ca86578f5023345e316a5620:04
cablopbekks: then i'm lost with this part "4X4Tb 500G raid 1"20:04
bekkscablop: because you did not notice the "4Tb zfs z2" part.20:05
k1l_Nek: run a "sudo apt-get install -f" and show the output again please20:06
speaker1234cablop: better Organization 2x500Gb in raid 1,  4X4Tb in zfs z220:06
speaker1234cablop: That is better organization of description :-)20:07
cablophehe20:07
demetrishi20:07
demetriscan anyone help me out i cant get sound from hdmi out20:07
Nekk1l_, https://gist.github.com/Nek-/2f26dc5105728ffe62fb16c1c0eb1afb20:07
cablopspeaker1234, bekks, ia think the first RAID is ok... i'm unsure on the second... i'd rather use a RAID 5 and a spare disk, put LVM on top of it and do the nasty things on LVM20:07
speaker1234cablop: I understand. I have much more experience with ZFS. Many times when I use LVM, it blows up in my face. ZFS is much simpler from my perspective. This is in an industrial environment where I can't get to replace drives quickly hence the added redundancy of Z2.20:09
cablopspeaker1234: i bet both swap suggestions we gave you are ok, just do what is best for your needs, both have pros and cons... a resized swap on top of LVM is sattered through the physical device so its performance is painfully slow, but it is right to resize it is tooooooo easy on LVM20:09
cablopspeaker1234: well, you should get more experience with LVM, once you realize you can move the / volume while using it at the same time you feel other things are just medieval stuff20:11
k1l_Nek: did you remove stuff from /etc/php/  manually?20:11
ikoniacablop: you can use physical device assignment on lvm - it doesn't have to be distributed20:11
ikoniaand you can get excellent performance out of lvm20:11
speaker1234:-) which is why I moved to zfs :-)20:11
andrewjs18anyone good with iptables and ipset?20:12
Nekk1l_, I may do things like that :-°20:12
Nekdid*20:12
k1l_Nek: hmm, ok, that seems bad20:12
NekYep I know. :/20:12
demetrisok this is weird20:12
demetrisi dont have hdmi out20:12
cablopspeaker1234: or when you hot plug a new drive, add it to the LVM group and move a logical volume out of a failing drive to that new drive while users are accesing its data20:12
cablopand users didn't notice what happened20:13
demetrisok there are 4 hdmi out device20:14
demetrisdevices20:14
demetris1,3,4 are no op20:14
speaker1234cablop: zfs can do that and more.  if you put in a larger drive, zfs will automatically use the new space when you replace all the drives (one at a time)20:14
demetrishdmi2 is ok20:14
demetrisbut why i have 4?20:14
demetrisfresh install20:14
NekHaters gonna hate. I fixed my problem. :>20:15
k1l_Nek:  sudo apt-get install php7-fpm -o Dpkg::Options::=--force-confmiss20:15
NekBy adding "exit 0" in the start of the pre-removal script of the package.20:15
Nek(manually)20:15
motokuhello. i have a quick hardware question if anyone is interested20:16
cablopikonia: that's true... but i really hate to have swaps on the same device i have other stuff... they interfere with readings and writings times20:16
k1l_motoku: for plain hardware talk you better ask in ##hardware20:16
cablopmotoku, just ask20:17
motokui have a dual-core hyperthreaded processor, what are the benefits of hyperthreading?20:20
k1l_motoku: ##hardware please20:20
motokuok thanks, k1l_20:23
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Nyteraxhi, anyone know a oneliner to show total ram used by slack?20:24
bekksfree -m20:24
motokumy favourite command is top -n 1 -b20:26
OerHeksfree the fish20:27
Nyteraxnice but any way i can make it sum all slack processes?20:27
th0rNyterax, top | grep slack ?20:27
motokuno, it's top -n 1 -b | grep slack20:28
motokuthere's no delay with viewing processes with top, right? one second is sufficient?20:29
olehhi20:31
olehI have installed Ubuntu 16.04 and I have tearing20:31
olehwhen I enabled nvidia card it's very noticeable20:32
motokuoh why? everyone loves unity!20:32
olehwhen I move windows I see tearing20:33
motokuwho needs themes and customizations, anyhow?20:33
olehbefore, I had this on linux mint and decided to switch back to ubuntu but now I see it also has this issue20:34
olehhow can I fix this?20:34
k1l_motoku: do you have any ubuntu support issue? that is what this channel is for.20:34
motokubuffering issue, maybe?20:34
ikoniabuffering of what ?20:34
olehI read many articles in the internet before. I don't know. Guys said that it will be if I will have fresh install20:34
olehso, here I am20:34
motokuactually i think they're talking about the window moving effect20:35
k1l_oleh: what video card, what kernel, what driver?20:35
linuxlite1969anyone know why ubuntu 16.04 is such a shit show?20:35
k1l_!language | linuxlite196920:36
ubottulinuxlite1969: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList20:36
olehnow I'm updating my system and going to reboot. Maybe it will fix. nvidia 950m, 4.4x, nvidia 361.4220:36
olehgive me a minute to reboot and back to you20:36
olehI'm back20:38
olehkernel: 4.4.0-38-generic20:38
olehand still tearing20:38
olehit's not so noticeable when intel is active20:39
k1l_i am not using nvidia cards since some years. but back then the nvidia-settings had some settings for vsync20:39
akikoleh: i fixed my tearing problem with modification to /etc/drirc20:40
olehI don't see any vsync in settings.20:41
olehwhat did you do?20:41
akikoleh: https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-drivers/open-source-amd-linux/26564-doubling-your-performance-with-a-simple-trick20:41
dequeuesHow do you change the boot order on Ubuntu 16?20:41
dequeueswith services, that is20:42
k1l_dequeues: boot order for what? in grub? in bios?20:42
dequeuesservices. trying to figure out how to ensure ipset loads before iptables20:42
akikoleh: i'm not sure if this xorg config needs to be done also: Option "SwapbuffersWait" "on"20:43
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olehas I see I don't have drirc file20:43
bekksdequeues: ipset depends on iptables, so you need iptables being loaded before ipset.20:43
olehshould I create it?20:43
akikoleh: it's from libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-xenial packag20:44
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olehI don't use mesa, as I understand20:44
star314Hi! I'm currently setting up a new config of xbindkeys which pretty works flawlessly, except the following thing: I have associated "xdotool key --clearmodifiers XF86AudioRaiseVolume" to "control+b:4" which works in many cases. However, sometimes the control key is not released after the execution of the command yielding some weird behavior in subsequent commands. Any ideas?20:45
dequeuesbekks: trying to figure out this https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233819420:46
bekksdequeues: you need iptables before ipset.20:46
dequeuesso how would I work around it? I mean, how can I make sure iptables is loaded?20:47
Jakey3still can get this openvpn to work20:48
jonesmashI agree the MSM is pretty pathetic.20:52
jonesmashAnd for that matter all know who owns and controls it.20:52
nicomachus!ot | jonesmash20:54
ubottujonesmash: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:54
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jonesmashnicomachus, wrong chan.20:57
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_0xbadc0dehi21:14
_0xbadc0deI dont have wireless either21:14
PAUL^^hi21:14
_0xbadc0dewhat should I do?21:14
deicide-i'm looking for support for xubuntu21:14
deicide-* Cannot join #xubuntu (You are banned).21:14
nicomachus_0xbadc0de: you should list your wireless card chipset and give more details about your issue21:15
_0xbadc0dehow can I do that?21:15
_0xbadc0demy details are: I don't have a working wireless connection21:15
Bashing-omdeicide-: Your issue is ?21:16
nicomachus_0xbadc0de: paste the output of 'sudo lshw -C network' to a pastebin and link here.21:16
deicide-i'm trying to downgrade firefox21:17
k1l__0xbadc0de: can you show the line in "lspci" that lists your wifi card?21:17
deicide-this is hell so far21:17
k1l_deicide-: dont downgrade.21:17
deicide-thats not an option21:17
k1l_deicide-: since ubuntu ships the firefox updates because they close security issues, there is no reason to downgrade the firefox version21:17
_0xbadc0dehttp://pastebin.com/KbsVSFqK21:18
k1l_deicide-: better tell your plugins to support the new version ( i guess that is the issue?)21:18
deicide-no i cant downgrade it21:18
k1l_!bcm43 | _0xbadc0de21:18
k1l_!bcm43xx | _0xbadc0de21:18
ubottu_0xbadc0de: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx21:18
deicide-i tried to download from here https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntuzilla/files/mozilla/apt/pool/main/f/firefox-mozilla-build/21:19
deicide-and it does nothing when i try to install21:20
k1l_deicide-: downgrading is not the way to go. i explained the reason21:20
eatononeThe very latest from Scott Roberts: "IN SEARCH OF A CURE" http://www.renegadetribune.com/scott-roberts-search-cure/21:24
ppfhey folks21:26
ppfnot technically a ubuntu question, but: how can i convert pdf to tiff without rerastering?21:27
ppfi want the ouput quality be exactly the same as the input quality21:27
bekksyou cant.21:28
bekkssince a pdf may contain vector graphics, and a tiff is rasterized.21:29
Keitarosomeone knows where the ifconfig parameters are store in ubuntu plz ?21:29
ppfbekks: yes, and that aside?21:30
bekksKeitaro: /etc/sysconfig/network-interfaces21:30
bekksppf: there is no other side. you cannot convert a pdf lossless.21:30
Keitarobekks, there is no sysconfig in ubuntu :x21:31
Keitaroi mean the folder21:31
PAUL^^hello21:31
ppfbekks: i don't believe you21:31
PAUL^^I'm looking for a simple image manipulator under ubuntu , something like irfan_view for windows21:32
ppfit contains rastered data. why shouldn't i be able to extract that and store it in a different format21:32
PAUL^^a program small and fast with few features21:32
bekksKeitaro: :D /etc/network/interfaces21:32
bekksppf: it _may_ contain rasterized data, it _may_ contain vectorized data.21:33
ppfPAUL^^: pinta21:33
k1l_PAUL^^: something like shotwell?21:33
PAUL^^I don't know shotwell , is it for linux ?21:34
ppfbekks: agreed. lets for the sake of argument assume it doesn't contain vectorized data21:34
k1l_PAUL^^: yes. i would not suggest you a windows program in here :)21:34
PAUL^^ok it's for linux21:34
PAUL^^I try now to use it21:34
k1l_PAUL^^: install the "shotwell" package21:34
_0xbadc0dehi guys21:35
Keitarobekks, i already did that but the file is empty exepts some comments is it normal ?21:35
_0xbadc0deit worked21:35
_0xbadc0deI am using wireless!21:35
* PAUL^^ k1l_ ok, immediatly thx21:35
bekksKeitaro: Yes, because you are using NetworkManager.21:35
Keitarobecause i don't find my ifconfig paramater in it21:35
_0xbadc0denow I also need to ask this21:35
_0xbadc0deI have an AMD gpu so there are lots of drivers21:35
_0xbadc0deand I don't want to mess this up21:36
mumiaI think it's nice. I've used a couple times21:36
_0xbadc0dewhat gpu driver should I install?21:36
bekksKeitaro: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html21:36
Keitarobekks, how can i do if i have some exercises and need to change my ip and config ?21:36
Keitarooki thx i will read that21:36
_0xbadc0deshow I install catalyst?21:36
k1l__0xbadc0de: no21:36
bekks_0xbadc0de: catalyst isnt for nvidia cards.21:37
_0xbadc0dewhen did I say I had an nvidia?21:37
bekks_0xbadc0de: sorry, someone else used a very similar nick lately, having an nvidia.21:37
_0xbadc0deI stressed _AMD_21:37
k1l__0xbadc0de: since 16.04 you dont have the old fglrx anymore. you are using the proper driver now21:37
_0xbadc0deLOLOL21:37
_0xbadc0deproper driver?21:37
_0xbadc0dedude I have 2x3 resolution almost21:37
k1l__0xbadc0de: please show the output of "lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3" on paste.ubuntu.com21:38
_0xbadc0dehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23231265/21:39
mumiaAnybody here has experience to install and config ircs servers21:40
mumia?21:40
buntooHey guys, lets say I install a library from source, and have it in my library path. how can i make sure tht programs can use it?21:40
k1l__0xbadc0de: see https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx21:41
ppfbekks: (or any one, actually) so, any suggestion one how to do this?21:41
_0xbadc0deLOL21:41
_0xbadc0deso basically install catalys21:41
_0xbadc0det21:41
_0xbadc0de>_>21:41
ppf_0xbadc0de: there word catalyst doesnt come up once on that page21:42
daxcatalyst, aka fglrx, is a completely different driver from amdgpu-pro21:43
daxone notable difference being that amdgpu-pro doesn't make me want to stab myself in the face21:43
nicomachuslol21:43
daxdoesn't have hdmi audio on my rx480 tho, so i'm still mad at it. but at least it isn't evil.21:43
_0xbadc0debtw21:43
k1l__0xbadc0de: you are using wrong names. that will confuse helpers.21:43
_0xbadc0deI am not sure if its the same version21:44
_0xbadc0dethe gfx card I have21:44
_0xbadc0deI am not sure if its supported by the pro driver you suggested21:44
Disaster_Areaanyone here do streaming? I'm looking at DLing OBS but I only see on their site downloads for Ubuntu 14.04 and I'm on 16.0421:48
_0xbadc0de00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Carrizo (rev c5)21:48
_0xbadc0dethat is my gfx card21:48
Disaster_Areaor does 15.04+ include 16.0421:48
_0xbadc0dehow can I know if its compatible with21:48
Disaster_Areai think i mighta just misread it... :x21:48
_0xbadc0dehttps://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx21:49
_0xbadc0de?21:49
Disaster_Areanvm me21:49
ppf_0xbadc0de: you try and see if it works21:49
_0xbadc0dewon't I mess my system up21:49
lbertolottihellp21:49
_0xbadc0dewhat If I mess the system21:49
_0xbadc0de>_>21:49
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ppfthen you repair it21:49
lbertolottisudo apt-get install texlive Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies:21:49
_0xbadc0deso this is how this works21:49
_0xbadc0de?21:49
lbertolottiDoes anyone know why that is happening?21:50
_0xbadc0deI just break stuff iteratively until stuff works?21:50
ppfthat's how linux rolls21:50
_0xbadc0deLOOOOOL21:50
_0xbadc0dethis is just absurd21:50
bekks_0xbadc0de: if your break software, you repair it, your reinstall it, or you restore it from your backup.21:50
bekks*if you21:50
_0xbadc0deI shouldn't have to do this iteratively in order to make basic system stuff work21:51
ppf_0xbadc0de: it surprisingly isn't. you'll get the hang of it21:51
kulelu88when I right-click and select "create an archive" for a file/folder, it shows me a variety of options to choose from: tar.bz2 , tar.gz , .jar, .iso, etc. Where can I find an instructions page that explains what each archive option is?21:51
ppfkulelu88: wikipedia? just google each of them, you'll get way better information than any overview page will have21:53
ppfif you're actually interested in how they work, that is21:54
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lbertolottihello?21:54
ppf_0xbadc0de: btw, your  lspci output says Kernel modules: amdgpu21:55
kulelu88ppf: The internals will be difficult to understand currently. I just want to know how fast and how small their compressions are21:55
ppfso i'm guessing the driver isn't your problem21:55
ppfrule of thumb: they're all the same21:55
ppf(well, maybe except iso and jar, can you actually create those directly out of your file browser)21:55
kulelu88ppf: https://askubuntu.com/questions/236598/best-compression-method#23660321:56
ppflbertolotti: "The following packages have unmet dependencies"21:56
kulelu88somebody did a chart of it21:56
moiseshola21:57
ppfkulelu88: gz and bz2 are the same in that chart21:57
bekkskulelu88: the chart is missing xz, and doesnt take parallel compression into account.21:57
ppfif you really really need the extra 15% then install 7z21:58
ppfor what bekks said21:58
kulelu88bekks: how will i/we know when parallel compression is happening?21:58
bekkskulelu88: by using it, for algorithms that support it, like 7z, bz2, etc.21:58
bekkskulelu88: that chart doesnt reflect that.21:58
kulelu88bekks: so if I am running a quad core PC, using 7z or bz2, it will utilize each core to compress *faster*?21:59
bekkskulelu88: No. You have to tell the archiver of your choice to use it.22:00
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kulelu88based on the compression questions, is it better to: .tar.bz2 once, or first .tar then .bz2?22:01
bekkskulelu88: better in terms of what?22:02
maxbEr, what? those are just two different ways of describing the same operation22:02
_0xbadc0deokay installation is done22:03
_0xbadc0delets see all this shit to fail miserably22:03
bekks!language | _0xbadc0de22:03
ubottu_0xbadc0de: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList22:03
_0xbadc0dejesus fchrist22:04
kulelu88so doing it in 1 step or 2 steps doesn't affect the outcome? bekks maxb22:05
bekkskulelu88: Of course it affects the outcome.22:05
bekkskulelu88: because you can start compressing the tarball before it is fully written.22:06
kulelu88well my needs are not acute enough to dig deep into this, so I will settle for .tar.bz222:07
bekkskulelu88: And again, bz2 is capable of parallel compression, so you might result in less time even when doing it in two steps.22:07
newdimensionI'm trying to update selenium using pip. It keeps telling me "Requirement already up-to-date" even though I'm several versions behind. I'm typing pip install selenium -U22:20
kulelu88what is your version and the current version? newdimension22:21
newdimensionI'm on 2.53.6 and Pypi says it's at 3.0.0b3 (https://pypi.python.org/pypi/selenium)22:22
kulelu88newdimension: you know how to use virtualenv?22:22
newdimensionYes, pip and selenium are installed in a virtualenv22:23
kulelu88did you upgrade pip itself? newdimension22:23
newdimensionI did not, why would that be an issue?22:23
kulelu88that might be why it can't upgrade to the latest (not a fact, an opinion)22:24
newdimensionI just tried it, it says requirements up-to-date22:24
newdimensionI mean tried to update pip using "pip install --upgrade pip"22:24
kulelu88which ubuntu are you on? newdimension22:25
newdimension16.0422:25
kulelu88selenium doesn't support python3?22:25
newdimensionIt does, and I only have python3 install in my virtualenv22:26
kulelu88type pip --version22:26
newdimension8.1.222:26
kulelu88pip is the latest version then22:26
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kulelu88may help to ask here also: #selenium newdimension22:27
newdimensionthat's a good suggestion, thank you22:28
PAUL^^hello22:32
felipebhzHi guys. I have an i3 Processor, with intel HD Graphics 3000 on my laptop. My problem is, I use it connected to a TV, via HDMI but suddenly and random the screen just goes black and turn on again. Already tried to install Intel Drivers but still having this problem.22:48
velushello all, im looking for a program that is easy to use that would allow a ip phone program (like zioper) to a program that can stream to a live radio station (shoutcast server)23:05
Serpico185anyone got clovenhoof books?23:11
bazhangSerpico185, try the offtopic channel for that23:12
OerHeksSerpico185, how it that ubuntu support related?23:12
bazhang#ubuntu-offtopic Serpico18523:13
Milw0rmhello23:13
OerHeksvelus, there is no streaming app for ubuntu phone, https://uappexplorer.com/23:14
Milw0rmthx23:15
OerHeksrecord streaming, that is23:15
velusits not for the phone its for the desktop, but something that can link a ip phone program like zioper to a live stream, i currently use mixxx for the streaming, and dont know how to link the two together, or is there a way of tricking the system into thinking what is comming out of the zioper as a input like a mic or a aux23:16
SchrodingersScat!info jackd | velus, jack can reroute audio sometimes, sometimes23:18
ubottuvelus, jack can reroute audio sometimes, sometimes: jackd (source: jackd-defaults): JACK Audio Connection Kit (default server package). In component universe, is optional. Version 5 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB23:18
OerHeksvelus, no idea, that stuff is paid http://www.zoiper.com/en/shop/products23:18
SchrodingersScatvelus: there's some jack control panel, normally if you install that it'll pull in the deps and let you play around.  No guarantee though, I often have really buggy results and consider it black magic.23:20
SchrodingersScatvelus: I've used it to route the system sounds into a mumble client before though, so I was able to play music/etc. for the mumble server.  Was good fun.23:22
velusi have looked at jackd and idjc but its too confusing for me to set up23:23
ubuntu698hi all. tried the official channels but they need auth-service... packaging:does someone knows an example which utilize/packages a node.js app into launchpad ? having a hard time to create a source package and i am not sure i should build the node.js binary from an existing ppa or better do all my self? thanks a lot for any hints.23:29
ubuntu698worsting: packaging node.js native modules. i can't figure whether launchpad would build this correctly,...23:31
rue_shop4a fellow brought me a computer I set up with ubuntu years ago, he did an upgrade, and on startup it dosn't start X, ideas?23:37
rue_shop4I cant see anywhere that init starts x or anything23:38
Bashing-omrue_shop4: If it boots to terminal , and functions there properly, then I would suspect a broken graphic's driver in this case .23:38
rue_shop4ok, what log should I look in23:42
rue_shop4X comes up if I run startx, no session manager23:43
rue_shop4'no screen section avialable'23:44
rue_shop4loosks like the default didn't play out for it23:44
rue_shop4but its all just wanrnings, not errors23:44
Cmaj6I need some serious help. I just started my computer and although it is connected to the wireless network, I have no internet connection. The wireless network card is running fine, because when booting in windows I do have internet. I'm running Ubuntu 16.04. The last time i used the computer and ubuntu, everything was working fine. I have not updated or play with any settings in the mean time. HELP23:45
Bashing-omrue_shop4: A coupl of log that might give hints ; /var/log/Xorg.0.log and in the /home is .xsession-errors . What desktop is this .. as "startx" is only applicable in a few cases !23:45
rue_shop4what usually is the start of X a session manager? gsession?23:47
rue_shop4should it start at runlevel 5?23:48
Bashing-omrue_shop4: Depends on what (D)isplay (M)anager is in use . Most commmon is lightdm .. and if on 14.04 for lightdm try 'sudo service lightdm start ' .23:49
korfixabout 16 million Germans between 44 and 48 were ethnically cleansed by plan. Wow.23:49
rue_shop4ok, after cleaning it and rebooting, there is nothing in .xsession-errors23:50
korfixif you really are the one guilty of war crimes, crimes against humanity, far better to point the finger at the victims... and that explains the Nuremberg Trials where they used testicle crushing and beatings to secure confessions.23:50
rue_shop4Bashing-om, ok, its cycling something23:51
OerHekskorfix, take that elsewhere23:51
rue_shop4and left me with a cursor in the top left of the screen23:51
rue_shop4?!?!?!23:51
kk4ewtkorfix,  and this channel doesnt want your trolling23:51
Bashing-omrue_shop4: To knoiw the DM ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ' .23:52
Bashing-omknow*23:52
rue_shop4xsession errors is still empty...23:53
rue_shop4desktop_session is empty23:53
Cmaj6anybody?23:54
rue_shop4yea, even on a reboot, desktop session is empty23:55
rue_shop4so maybe the installer removed the whole session manager and then broke?23:55
rue_shop4I dont even know what the ubuntu installer is23:55
OerHeksCmaj6, last time you shutdown, did you hibernate? that could prevent use of wifi/usb23:55
OerHeksc/ shutdown windows23:56
lordcirthor even win10 fastboot can do that, I think23:56
OerHekstrue23:56
Bashing-omrue_shop4: We still do not know what DeskTop this is . any result '23:56
Bashing-omrue_shop4: We still do not know what DeskTop this is . any result ' ls -al /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log ' ?23:56
Cmaj6OerHeks, now you mention it. Yes i did actually by accident23:58
rue_shop4ok looking for root error, 1 min23:58
Cmaj6OerHeks, however, i am now connected to the wireless network, it can detect the networks easily, but no internet connection23:58
velusdoes anyone know socket.io23:58
rue_shop4the "greeter" failed?23:59
rue_shop4whats a greeter?23:59
Cmaj6OerHeks, how do i undo what hibernate did to wifi/usb?23:59

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