[00:00] <bipul> Hi tsimonq2 
[00:00] <valorie> nice to see you here, bipul
[00:00] <bipul> valorie, Hello
[00:01] <bipul> Yes, I always wanted to learn , Ubuntu packaging
[00:01] <valorie> that's awesome
[00:01] <valorie> so many things need packaging....
[00:02]  * tsimonq2 nods
[00:02] <bipul> yes.
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[00:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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 @Valoriez if I get funded for SeaGL I'm going to do a docs talk
[01:06] <sgclark> clivejo: yes absolutely of course, yay! I will fill in testimonial in the morning. /hugs
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[04:07] <tsimonq2> o/ night
[04:09] <valorie> niters tsimonq2
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[08:29] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:33] <jimarvan> good morning everyone
[08:33] <lordievader> Hey jimarvan 
[08:34] <jimarvan> :)
[08:37] <acheronuk> santa_: gbp-archive does not seem to sign the tag it creates?
[08:38] <acheronuk> moring jimarvan :)
[08:39] <jimarvan> hey acheronuk ;)
[08:39] <jimarvan> how are we doing with preparing yakkete?
[08:39] <jimarvan> any troubles?
 Morning Friends 😃
[08:40] <acheronuk> jimarvan: a few, which we are mostly stalled with because of the delayed beta :/
[08:40] <acheronuk> Good morning Rick. :D
[08:43] <acheronuk> so we actually have a written backports policy? https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?70837-Backports-policy
[08:43] <acheronuk> *do we
[08:44] <jimarvan> :/
[08:52] <maxyz_> acheronuk: Is there anything that uses these symbols?
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[08:57] <acheronuk> maxyz: the two replaced functions seem to eb called when the ok/cancel button is clicked on the properties dialogue https://api.kde.org/frameworks/kio/html/classKPropertiesDialog.html#aa985c9014464edb9ae9732ab2e0e6ab3
[09:19] <maxyz> acheronuk: Aren't they called by kio directly?
[09:20] <maxyz> Mmh, of course not
[09:22] <maxyz> acheronuk: Can you nag upstream about this?, we could probably provide some empty slots to avoid the abi breakage, probably not for the functionality 
[09:24] <maxyz> Duh, they can be added adding the Deprecated flags.
[09:24] <acheronuk> maxyz: sorry I am a little new at this
[09:26] <acheronuk> maxyz: so with the depreciated flag as you have in debian's symbols file, ABI should not break?
[09:30] <acheronuk> improving my C++ just went a few items higher on my TODO list :/
[09:31] <acheronuk> bbl. thanks for replying :)
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[09:56] <maxyz> Actually, I'm not sure how to force the KIOWIDGETS_DEPRECATED tagged method to be built.
[09:58] <maxyz> By the way it's used, it should present unless it's wrapped in a #ifndef KIOWIDGETS_NO_DEPRECATED
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[10:08] <santa_> acheronuk: nope, it doesn't sign the tags
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 *yawn*
 o/
[11:12] <acheronuk> santa_: is that ok to leave them unsigned then?
[11:18] <santa_> acheronuk: I don't see much point in getting the trouble to do that in the script given that any package uploaded to the ppa or archive is going to be signed anyway
[11:22] <acheronuk> santa_: fair enough. signing tags in our git did seem a bit pointless, but I could equally have been unaware of some important reason why it should be done, so had to check. thank you :)
[11:23] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: you know you can sign commits too?
[11:23]  * tsimonq2 runs
[11:23] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: yes, I do
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[11:37] <tsimonq2> o/ off to school
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[11:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
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[13:40] <acheronuk> shadeslayer Mirv : a corrected kactivities I think if it can be uploaded http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimonq2/kactivities-kf5_5.26.0-0ubuntu1.tar.gz
[13:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[13:47] <shadeslayer> acheronuk: dsc?
[13:50] <acheronuk> shadeslayer: dsc is there
[13:53] <shadeslayer> acheronuk: http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimonq2/kactivities-kf5_5.26.0-0ubuntu1.dsc 404?
[13:53] <acheronuk> .changes .dsc and the orig and debian tars should be inside that archive
[13:53] <shadeslayer> ahh
[13:53] <shadeslayer> acheronuk: uploaded
[13:54] <acheronuk> thank you :)
[13:54] <shadeslayer> yw
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 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/4EC40CXT/file_598.mp4
[14:22] <acheronuk> and then LP immediately crashes! :/
[14:23] <clivejo> I blame Simon
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[14:27] <acheronuk> KDE site won't load for me either
[14:28] <clivejo> thought it was just my internet connection
[14:28] <clivejo> its nice that its broken for everyone and not just me!
[15:13] <jimarvan> kde site broken? :(
[15:14] <jimarvan> ye I see it too
[15:28] <sitter> maxyz: FYI I am currently in the process of upstreaming the fdupes hacks from breeze-icons and oxygen-icons. should be landed for kf5.27, so we can drop the hack then
[15:41] <acheronuk> ouch for LP! "The switch with the master database server on it failed."
[15:42] <clivejo> what happened the backup switch?
[15:42] <clivejo> or the secondary database :P
[15:43]  * acheronuk rolls eyes
[15:45] <clivejo> o/ soee
[15:47] <BluesKaj> yup, just tried , LP doesn't load ..getting "oops" message here
[16:05] <acheronuk> and LP is back....
[16:06] <clivejo> KDE too
[16:07] <clivejo> thats _odd_
[16:07] <acheronuk> they don't share intra do they? I didn't think so...
[16:07] <clivejo> one would hope not!
[16:07] <acheronuk> infra...
[16:08] <acheronuk> no. just one of those weird coincidences then
 @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie if you're blaming me, what exactly do you think I did? Lol
 You broke Launchpad
[16:27] <BluesKaj> yakkety beta 2 desktop is still missing in action ..X is placing the deskop below the panel 
[16:29] <BluesKaj> makes no difference whether composting is turned on or off 
[17:43] <maxyz> sitter: Thanks, pino did some changed to it in the Debian packages, are pushing those as well (just checking).
 @tsimonq2, No, davidcalle did when he applied to be an Ubuntu Member. Oh wait...
 Lol
[18:07] <tsimonq2> I'm off o/
 Process 1665 - plasmashell … Summary … The process plasmashell (with pid 1665) is using approximately 4.1 GB of memory. … It is using 4.1 GB privately, and a further 34.4 MB that is, or could be, shared with other programs. … Dividing up the shared memory between all the processes sharing that memory we get a reduced shared memory usage of 5.9 MB. Adding that to the private usage, we get the above mentioned total me
 Do any of you experience this?
[18:45] <clivejo> eakkk
[18:45] <clivejo> never seen that
[18:45] <mamarley> ovidiu-florin: Which graphics chipset do you have?  I routinely see high memory usage and sluggish performance after a while in Plasma on a system with Intel graphics but not on a system with NVIDIA graphics.
[18:46] <clivejo> NVidia
 Intel
[18:46] <mamarley> Aha!
 any ideas on what to do?
 Why does it do this?
[18:47] <mamarley> I think the bug is actually in modesetting/glamor though because I didn't have this problem before those were used.
[18:47] <clivejo> plasmashell is using 182Mb Memory and 104Mb shared and been running since I logged on this morning
 I killed it and restarted
 it's n 142Mb now
 180Mb actually
 and my CPU fan calmed down
[18:49] <mamarley> Yeah, that's how I handle it too.
[18:51] <mamarley> I have considered opening a bug, but I have a feeling it will be one of those things where everybody blames everybody else and nothing ever gets done.
 meh...
[19:24] <acheronuk> hmmm.... plasmashell was using about 500MB here the other day on Nvidia. I killed and restarted it, and so far it has stayed under 200MB since then
 ultill I use the latest version, I won't complain
[19:54] <tsdgeos> what's missing so that Apps gets upped from staging to real repos in yakkety?
[19:54] <clivejo> uploaders
[19:55] <clivejo> hi blaze
[19:55] <blaze> hi clivejo 
[19:55] <blaze> i've managed to get the installer runing
[19:56] <clivejo> how?
[19:56] <blaze> now we need an iso and heavy testing
[19:56] <clivejo> when I package it, keeps throwing errors
[19:56] <blaze> just fixed two minor issues
[19:57] <blaze> packaging is another story :)
[19:57] <blaze> you need to prepare the d-i directory
[19:57] <blaze> then generate manifest
[19:57] <blaze> the finally run dpkg-buildpackage
[19:58] <clivejo> any docs?
[19:58] <blaze> clivejo: ask ahoneybun 
[19:58] <blaze> he does know the command
[20:00] <clivejo> I want to get this tested and fixed!
[20:05] <blaze> clivejo: just look how nice it looks on xubuntu :) http://wstaw.org/m/2016/09/26/test_1.png
[20:06] <clivejo> is the slideshow working?
[20:06] <blaze> should work
[20:06] <blaze> would do more testing tomorrow
[20:07] <clivejo> ahoneybun: got docs on how this is packaged?
[20:24] <blaze> clivejo: you can extract the diff and add it as a patch to the ubiquity sources, then everything it to your lp, I guess
[20:25] <blaze> * then upload everything to your lp
 I'll figure it out in a bit. Messing with this sort of thing is awesome. :P
[20:25]  * blaze is sleepy
[20:26] <blaze> that's all for today
[20:26] <blaze> seeya
[20:34] <valorie> canonical does donate a server to KDE and have done for years
[20:34] <clivejo> they do?
[20:34] <valorie> slidewhow working \o/
[20:35] <valorie> yes, can't recall the name of it, or what it runs
[20:35] <valorie> woah, final beta still not published
[20:35] <valorie> that is reallllllly unusual
 Wait what
 Slideshow works?
[20:40] <valorie> according to blaze, he got it workin'
 Sweet
[20:40] <valorie> we've not tested yet
[20:40] <valorie> they started publishing the betas now
[20:44] <clivejo> @ahoneybun how do you package the installer?
 With LP
 Though it the source
 *throw
[21:01] <acheronuk> santa_: so on kio you moved those functions back so the old method call the new one?
[21:09] <clivejo> @ahoneybun Im getting an error
[21:09] <tsimonq2> .ts
[21:09] <tsimonq2> whoops
[21:13] <santa_> acheronuk: that was already done, what I did was moving it's implementation from the .h file to the .cpp file so the compiler doesn't inline them
[21:14] <ahoneybun> clivejo: what error
[21:14] <santa_> acheronuk: see https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/129032/
[21:15] <acheronuk> santa_: ^^^ was just looking at that, and yes, it's clearer looking at the side-by-side diff on that 
[21:16] <clivejo> ./tests/run-pyflakes
[21:16] <ahoneybun> clivejo: give me the pastebin
[21:16] <ahoneybun> mhall119: can we get some more help pushing changes then?
[21:16] <clivejo> Im trying to build the source 
[21:17] <ahoneybun> and I need the log
[21:18] <clivejo> ahoneybun: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23235150/
[21:18] <ahoneybun> is that from blaze's branch or upstream?
[21:19] <clivejo> blaze
[21:19] <clivejo> blaze has ported the entire thing to KF5
[21:19] <ahoneybun> mm it's a bit odd that it can't cd into d-i/source/console-setup
[21:19] <ahoneybun> does d-i have a source dir in it?
[21:20] <ahoneybun> theres a command to pull stuff from the achive to put into it
[21:20] <clivejo> get-sources?
[21:21] <ahoneybun> mm not it I think
[21:21] <ahoneybun> something like "d-i something"
[21:21] <clivejo> did Jon not walk you through this a couple of years ago?
[21:22] <ahoneybun> nope
[21:22] <ahoneybun> I've been walking though a dark hallway about htis
[21:22] <ahoneybun> *this
[21:26] <ahoneybun> make -C d-i/ updat
[21:26] <ahoneybun> make -C d-i/ update
[21:26] <ahoneybun> clivejo: ^
[21:27] <clivejo> why isnt it doc'ed anywhere!
[21:27] <ahoneybun> not sure
[21:27] <valorie> santa_: thanks for clearing that up with the release team
[21:27] <ahoneybun> I could not find it
[21:29] <clivejo> ok that runs and completes
[21:29] <santa_> valorie: no prob
[21:29] <clivejo> but still fails to build
[21:30] <ahoneybun> new error?
[21:31] <clivejo> same
[21:32] <ahoneybun> something that was changed in the python is failing the test
[21:32] <valorie> with a clean build folder?
[21:34] <clivejo> course its changed, its been ported to KF5
[21:34] <ahoneybun> clivejo: I'm just pointing it out
[21:36] <clivejo> sorry ahoneybun, just annoyed at this
[21:36] <clivejo> seems nothing is documented and anything that is, is just so far out of date its rubbish
[21:42]  * clivejo is going to bed before he cracks up
[21:43] <clivejo> internet is getting slower and slower
[23:26] <valorie> tsimonq2 has been doing great work in #ubuntu-release
[23:26] <valorie> I think we might have a beta in awhile!
[23:26] <valorie> maybe
[23:29] <ahoneybun> valorie: what hotel are you staying at?
[23:30] <valorie> silver cloud I believe, let me check
[23:30] <valorie> yup
[23:31] <ahoneybun> well hotel or in?
[23:31] <ahoneybun> Inn
[23:31] <valorie> I think wxl made reservations already
[23:31] <valorie> Hotel
[23:31] <ahoneybun> did he?
[23:31] <valorie> on Broadway
[23:32] <ahoneybun> he says he did no such thing
[23:32] <valorie> ah, ok
[23:32] <valorie> I did because it costs nothing to make a reservation
[23:33] <ahoneybun> seattle silver cloud hotel ?
[23:33] <valorie> and if I don't get funding, I'll cancel
[23:33] <valorie> yes
[23:33] <valorie> on Broadway
[23:33] <ahoneybun> holy crap
[23:33] <jose> valorie: what rate are you getting?
[23:34] <ahoneybun> 507 for 3 nights?
[23:34] <jose> ahoneybun: does that include tax?
[23:34] <ahoneybun> no clue but still a lot
[23:34] <jose> you should check if it includes tax or not. usually rates don't include tax, and you don't find out until checkout
 I'm only staying two nights
[23:35] <ahoneybun> well I need to get there thursday I would think
 unless you go for a BnB, you won't get cheaper
[23:35] <ahoneybun> mm
 yes, Thur. & Fri. night
 you are flying out Sunday then?
[23:35] <ahoneybun> I was thinking about it
[23:36] <ahoneybun> though at this rate I'll fly out on Saturday
[23:36] <ahoneybun> evening
[23:36] <valorie> yeah
[23:36] <ahoneybun> 338
[23:36] <jose> ahoneybun: you flying from MIA?
[23:36] <ahoneybun> not looked at txts
[23:36] <valorie> ooo, looks like dinner is ready.....
[23:36] <ahoneybun> most likely jose
[23:37] <ahoneybun> I have a friend in Miami I can leave my car and get a lyft/uber to the airport
[23:37] <ahoneybun> that;s going to be a pretty penny
[23:37] <ahoneybun> or he could drive me idk
[23:37] <valorie> no busses/trains to the airport?
[23:37] <valorie> even Seattle has a train.....
[23:38] <ahoneybun> our system sucks
[23:38] <valorie> so does ours
[23:38] <ahoneybun> maybe amatak
[23:38] <ahoneybun> wxl: 2 queen?
[23:38] <jose> ahoneybun: what's your nearest airport?
[23:38] <wxl> ahoneybun: yes sir
[23:38] <ahoneybun> well Fort Lauderdale I think is the same distance
[23:39] <jose> I'm seeing $361 roundtrip from MIA to SEA, direct flights and perfect timing for you
[23:39] <jose> and wxl, if you need to stay an additional night because ahoneybun's leaving, I think I may have a couch
[23:39] <wxl> jose: wait you're in seattle?
[23:39] <ahoneybun> I'd rather not since I want to catch up
[23:39] <jose> no, I'm in Peru, but I'm going and *should* have a couch
[23:39] <ahoneybun> wxl: jose books extra rooms on every trip lol
[23:39] <wxl> OH COOL :)
[23:40] <jose> lol no, they always give me something with a couch
[23:40] <wxl> i'm excited to finally meet you jose!
[23:40] <jose> same here
[23:40] <ahoneybun> so check in on Nov 10 and out on Nov 12
[23:41] <ahoneybun> mm jose that flight would leave at 11pm at night
[23:41] <jose> yep
[23:41] <ahoneybun> well for the return
[23:41] <ahoneybun> 8pm for the flight out
[23:42] <ahoneybun> well 9pm
[23:42] <ahoneybun> wxl: dates good with you?
[23:43] <wxl> yes ahoneybun 
[23:43] <wxl> i think that's what i'm planning to do myself actually
[23:43] <wxl> knowing i have a couch gives me some extra flexibility too
[23:43] <ahoneybun> I'll be getting to Seattle at 1am at best jose
[23:44] <ahoneybun> I would not be able to check in till Friday
[23:44] <wxl> wait wouldn't you be getting in on thursday though?
[23:45] <ahoneybun> flight is at 8pm my time I think
[23:45] <ahoneybun> ohh
[23:45] <wxl> yeah but they'll still let you in silly :)
[23:45] <ahoneybun> Seattle is back though
[23:45] <wxl> i'm probably going to come in on friday morning
[23:46] <wxl> the thing doesn't start until 1045 it seems
[23:46] <wxl> but i don't know, maybe it would be nice ot be there thursday
[23:46]  * wxl shrugs
[23:46] <wxl> should we have this convo in -offtopic or something? :)
[23:46] <ahoneybun> mm
[23:47] <ahoneybun> the room it started maybe
[23:47] <ahoneybun> -offtopic might be best