[00:02] <cablop> valorie: i did in the past, until i realized the community never fic things working bad in non LTS releases, so non LTS releases are pretty unstable for daily usage or production environments
[00:02] <valorie> when we have the time, we do backport, at least for a few months
[00:03] <valorie> but it's true that most of the energy goes into the next release, and backporting to LTS
 I'm 16.10 as well
[00:22] <chcknrub> i'm usin kubuntu at work
[00:22] <chcknrub> sticking with lts
[00:22] <chcknrub> pls release updates
 your welcome to help package stuff
[00:24] <cablop> hmmm
[00:24] <cablop> i'm thinking to use a USB stick as a swap...
[00:25] <ussher_> dell produce a linux laptop with a very hi-res display 'precision 5510', it looks really nice, has anyone got one?  Wondering about scaling issues with applications. and how it works with KDE
 Everything should scale
[01:51] <chcknrub> when will qt/kde be updated in xenial 16.04 lts?
[01:51] <chcknrub> ???????????????????????????????????????????/
[01:51] <cablop> damn... i thuink i have no other option than leave KDE for a while
[01:51] <cablop> things are getting worse... sigh
[01:51] <chcknrub> yup.. kde is now sucking
[01:52] <chcknrub> windows 10 more updates
[01:53] <cablop> it is not making sense anymore... i updated, placed a real GPU card, using proprietary drivers... and now the windows contents freeze, i can still minimize/restore windows, or move them, but the content freeze, i see a lot of hard disk activity, and after the disk stops the windows' content become updated and i can interact with it again...
[01:53] <cablop> but that really does not make any sense!!!
[01:54] <cablop> i check the swap, to see if that's the problem... and i have enough free RAM so i'm not using the swap!
[01:55] <cablop> i disabled the swap... and the thing [persists! what's wrong with linux!
[01:55] <chcknrub> lol...
[01:56] <chcknrub> it seems hw/driver problem
[01:56] <chcknrub> which process is using disk i/o?
[01:56] <chcknrub> u can do the command iotop
[01:56] <chcknrub> type 'iotop'
[01:58] <chcknrub> kubuntu is now a ripoff
[01:59] <crdpink> restoring kmail - it seems to have restored my folder with names like "akonadi_imap_resource_10rc" etc instead of the original names, and now wants me to pick which one for each account (I have a bunch). How am I supposed to know which one is which?
[02:03] <crdpink> oh I can manually unzip the old settings and dig in resources/ to see.
[05:23] <ppker> ddd
[05:25] <ppker> hello everyone
[05:26] <ppker> 666
[05:26] <ppker> hello everyone
[07:09] <Smurphy> 999
[07:09] <Smurphy> olleh
[08:29] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:39] <acheronuk> 16.10 here as well :)
[08:52] <cmmku> hallo
[08:54] <cmmku> Jesli ktos komus nie odpisuje na IRC'u to jest zbukiem.
[08:55] <lordievader> !pl | cmmku
[08:55] <cmmku> A gdy krnobrnost Twoja jest tak duza ze uparcie milczysz wtedy stajesz sie zbukiem smrodliwym.
[08:55] <cmmku> All right. Sorry.
[08:55] <lordievader> No worries ;)
[08:56] <cmmku> :)
[08:56] <cmmku> Not good. I don't speak english. :/
[09:00] <cmmku> My english is so weak that i rather i'll go myself or will I wrote very little and slowly.
[09:03] <cmmku> Thank you <lordievader> ;)
[09:08] <lordievader> cmmku: Join #ubuntu-pl then, there might be people there who can help you in your native tongue.
[09:25] <cmmku> I'm going down.I wish you did not have a nice day.
[09:28] <cmmku> Joke.
[10:15] <ChetManly> do you know that you must lock widgets and reboot if you have more then five icons set to launch in pnael by kmenu if you want them to stay put
[10:16] <ChetManly> of you kill xserver or logout they go all over the panel
[10:16] <ChetManly> you must reboot first
[10:16] <ChetManly> weird
[11:43] <ChetManly> hey how do I make firefox not be retarded when it "picks" what program to launch
[11:43] <ChetManly> like opening gwenview to browse file and such
[11:49] <ChetManly> it literally has no idea what to pick
[11:49] <GuKKDevel_> what does it mean with file-system: socket not connected
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:57] <EvilRoey> hello all
[12:57] <EvilRoey> anyone here?
[12:59] <EvilRoey> I have a bit of an issue.. I have a friend who gave me his laptop with no files in /boot (apparently they were however saved to /boot/boot-sav/)... I have the laptop booted to a USB stick.. my idea was to move the boot files back, run update-grub (after mountint this directory as /boot) and doing apt-get update/dist-upgrade on it...
[12:59] <EvilRoey> Mis-anthrope_: o/
[12:59] <EvilRoey> and hi jasonwert
[13:00] <Mis-anthrope_> Hey EvilRoey
[13:00] <EvilRoey> hihi
[13:00] <EvilRoey> I have a bit of an issue.. I have a friend who gave me his laptop with no files in /boot (apparently they were however saved to /boot/boot-sav/)... I have the laptop booted to a USB stick.. my idea was to move the boot files back, run update-grub (after mountint this directory as /boot) and doing apt-get update/dist-upgrade on it...
[13:00] <EvilRoey> Mis-anthrope_: ^
[13:00] <Mis-anthrope_> I am a noob in linux.. :)
[13:01] <Mis-anthrope_> so sowwy but I cant help :\
[13:01] <EvilRoey> ah :) got it
[13:01] <EvilRoey> thanks anyway
[13:01] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey: UEFI?
[13:01] <EvilRoey> oh hi BluesKaj :) :)
[13:02] <EvilRoey> ermI don't think so
[13:02] <EvilRoey> dell lattitude e7440
[13:02] <BluesKaj> better check
[13:04] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: how do I check?
[13:06] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey:  open the BIOS. the laptop is uefi or bios, if it's newer than 2010 then probly uefi
[13:07] <BluesKaj> who uses /boot anymore anyway ?
[13:08] <BluesKaj> unless it's uefi with windows
[13:54] <cablop> so weird stuff...
[14:00] <cablop> My system partialy freezes from time to time: windows' content freezes, so i can't interact with websites or this chat, but windows' controls and window manager remain usable, i can minimize and restore windows and alt-tab them. During the freezing i see high disk usage either with swap on or off. I fsck-ed the file systems and they're ok. I ran the SMART self test twice, disk is ok, also ...
[14:01] <cablop> ... disk SMART stats are the best of all my 4 drives. I'm puzzled.
[14:01] <cablop> why disk usage freeze windows' content? I also switched from the ATI onboard GPU to the NVIDIA PCIE GPU... same issue... it makes NO sense for me
[14:01] <cablop> any idea?
[14:05] <cablop> (i'd expect something thjat weird on Windows...)
[15:54] <cablop> anyone in here?
[16:03] <chcknrub> kubuntu sucks, no qt/kde libs update for 2 months already
[16:43] <cablop> chcknrub: meybe you need to add the kubuntu-backports ppa
[16:44] <user|10579> The download link never works, it always fails before it finishes.  I try different mirrors, other versions, they all never complete.  I have been trying for two days and clicked the download link probably 30 times. what is the problem?
[16:55] <krytarik> user|10579: Try the torrents instead then.
[17:04] <user|10579> I cant, it is for work.  Torrent client not allowed
[17:04] <acheronuk> user|10579: is this the amd64 16.04.1 iso?
[17:11] <acheronuk> user|10579: Well, I just downloaded the iso via http in Firefox, and it completed fine and SHA256 has verifies the image as complete
[17:11] <acheronuk> so I guess there is an issue with your network or something
[17:16] <BluesKaj> user|10579: just tip about downloading with  firefox ..the doen load might stall near the end saying "just a few seconds left" if it remains so for more thn a  few minutes , pause it and restart ,,,for some reason FF downloader has been acting up for while now
[17:17] <acheronuk> zysnc is another option
[17:24] <BluesKaj> acheronuk:  I usd zsync and it mucked up a couple of times as well...it could be the source mirrors
[17:46] <cablop> user|10579: what link?
[17:57] <chcknrub> i already added backports
[17:58] <chcknrub> :(
[18:17] <pineapplelover_> hello kkubuntu 16.04 complains about flashplugin-installer any idea?
[18:18] <pineapplelover_> fail downloading extra data files
[18:18] <pineapplelover_> and the package willing to do that is flashplugin-installer
[18:19] <genii> pineapplelover_: Likely you upgraded from an earlier Kubuntu where adobe-flashplugin was installed, but not flashplugin-installer
[18:20] <genii> pineapplelover_: I would suggest from konsole: sudo apt update && sudo apt install flashplugin-installer
[18:22] <cablop> user|10579: if you are downloading a big file, use firefox and the down-them-all extension, it allows you to download by multiple parts simultaneously
[18:22] <cablop> and pause and resume downloads
[19:32] <momoe> http://imgur.com/gallery/MPEcU
[19:34] <genii> momoe: I doubt we can get Kubuntu to run on it.
[19:50] <mpo42vr_> Folks, do you have an idea what this is? http://imgur.com/K6UrrEf
[19:51] <mpo42vr_> The folders are all different and suddenly I have to doubleclick to open a file
[19:51] <mpo42vr_> It must have happened with one of the last updates
[19:55] <Dragnslcr> mpo42vr_- it looks like Dolphin with default settings
[19:58] <mpo42vr_> Except that some folders are themed and most are not
[19:58] <mpo42vr_> I can't change the icons
[19:58] <mpo42vr_> And where do I change back to "single-click opens the file"?
[20:00] <wish^> Anyone here know something about https://neon.kde.org/?
[20:00] <wish^> Is this kubuntu or something else?
[20:00] <chcknrub> www.chcknrub.com
[20:00] <chcknrub> my  website
[20:01] <chcknrub> kindly click and visit
[20:03] <Dragnslcr> wish^- as far as I know, it's a KDE project, not Kubuntu
[20:03] <chcknrub> click --> www.chcknrub.com <-- click
[20:05] <chcknrub> i am planning to switch to other kde distro
[20:05] <chcknrub> because xenial lts 16.04 has no update for months
[20:05] <chcknrub> it is buggy too
[20:06] <chcknrub> akregator marks all articles as read automatically
[20:06] <chcknrub> konsole don't remember tabs after reboot
[20:06] <chcknrub> it is fixed in latest kde/qt, but xenial has no updates
[21:24] <viewer|29888> i need help
[21:25] <viewer|29888> hello world?
[21:26] <viewer|29888> is anybody there?
[21:27] <UnderFact> I need help installing kubuntu
[21:29] <rattking> whats the problem?
[21:32] <UnderFact> when i try to install kubuntu it say that ubi-partman crashed, so i cant install it
[21:34] <UnderFact> if you are saying stuff right now i cant see it.
[21:39] <tlu> i need help
[21:41] <tlu> hello?
[21:41] <tlu> lethu?
[21:42] <lethu> tlu, yes?
[21:42] <tlu> i need help installing kubuntu
[21:43] <lethu> tlu, what's the problem?
[21:43] <tlu> when i triy to install it says that ubi-partman crashed.
[21:43] <tlu> so i cant make a swapfile
[21:43] <lethu> which version is it?
[21:44] <lethu> also do you try to install from live?
[21:44] <tlu> 16.04 lts
[21:44] <tlu> and yes
[21:44] <lethu> try installing without live environment booted
[21:44] <tlu> there isnt an option for that
[21:44] <lethu> there should be
[21:44] <tlu> where?
[21:45] <lethu> the first welcome screen
[21:45] <tlu> when i boot from the flash drive, it just goes straight to the desktop
[21:46] <lethu> which tool did you use to make the usb?
[21:46] <tlu> rufus
[21:46] <lethu> bad
[21:46] <tlu> why
[21:46] <lethu> use uui
[21:46] <tlu> i have never had anything bad happen with rufus....
[21:47] <tlu> ill try tho...
[21:47] <lethu> good luck
[21:47] <tlu> kk
[21:49] <tlu> ok, its formatting right now
[21:49] <tlu> it might take awhile.
[21:49] <lethu> good
[21:49] <tlu> extracting
[21:51] <tlu> also a little side question, how come when i try to run any ubuntu flavour in a vm, a whole bunch of coloured text shows up? its fine if you dont know, though.
[21:52] <lethu> no idea sorry never tried ubuntu on a vm
[21:52] <tlu> ok, i dont really need to do that anyway.
[21:52] <lethu> good
[21:53] <tlu> its almost done.
[21:55] <tlu> im going to go on my tablet now, brb
[21:57] <tlu> im going to login as tlu2
[21:58] <tlu2> hey
[21:58] <tlu2> this is definitly strange like this
[21:59] <tlu2> 7zip appears to have hung while extracting preseed/kubuntu.seed
[22:00] <tlu2> ok its gotten over that...
[22:01] <lethu> :)
[22:01] <tlu2> its creating persistant file...
[22:03] <tlu2> its taking just as long as dd, lol.
[22:03] <tlu2> that could just mean that my flash drive is garbage
[22:04] <valorie> 7zip?
[22:04] <valorie> why on earth is that there?
[22:05] <tlu2> because windows xp..... :P
[22:05] <valorie> ah
[22:05] <tlu2> yeah...
[22:05] <valorie> my sympathy
[22:05] <tlu2> lel
[22:06] <tlu2> god this takes forever!
[22:06] <lethu> brb
[22:06] <tlu2> kk
[22:07] <tlu2> the notice to be patient makes it feel even longer
[22:08] <tlu2> finally dd is done
[22:10] <tlu2> im going to try booting from it now
[22:11] <tlu2> its showing the menu!
[22:11] <tlu2> i bet that rufus didnt know how to make the proper mbr files
[22:12] <tlu2> there isnt a option in the menu to just install without the live environment
[22:12] <lethu> just boot it
[22:12] <tlu2> ok
[22:13] <lethu> then install
[22:13] <tlu2> its booting
[22:13] <lethu> good
[22:13] <tlu2> ...
[22:13] <lethu> rufus has a reputation of messing live usb's
[22:13] <tlu2> lol ok
[22:13] <tlu2> once kubuntu is installed i can use dd
[22:14] <tlu2> data destroyer
[22:14] <tlu2> loading
[22:15] <tlu2> my computer is so slow
[22:15] <tlu2> umm, it usually isnt this slow to start the desktop
[22:15] <valorie> xp computers are .....
[22:16] <tlu2> finally, speak of the devil
[22:16] <valorie> you might have better luck with lubuntu or so
[22:16] <tlu2> no, i mean that with the usb from rufus it was faster
[22:17] <tlu2> this computer runs xp because its from the vista era
[22:17] <tlu2> woooooaaahh z-fighting
[22:17] <tlu2> jeez
[22:17] <tlu2> gotta fix that....
[22:18] <tlu2> talking to myself
[22:18] <tlu2> xrendr
[22:18] <tlu2> moment of truth, will it install
[22:20] <tlu2> kind of annoying that it asks for the wifi password twice
[22:20] <tlu2> or three times?
[22:21] <tlu2> four times? wtf
[22:21] <tlu2> failed
[22:21] <tlu2> five times. T_T
[22:22] <tlu2> oh well finally
[22:22] <tlu2> loading
[22:23] <tlu2> (world record most single sided conversation ever)
[22:24] <tlu2> still loading
[22:24] <valorie> I did have a problem with it asking multiple times
[22:24] <valorie> once
[22:24] <valorie> usually Just Works
[22:25] <tlu2> it worked eventually
[22:25] <tlu2> i used to run lubuntu, but my computer can run kubuntu just fine and it has a much better ui.
[22:27] <tlu2> even though i have two floppy drives, there aftermarket so i can play old games and backup small code projects (dont criticize me)
[22:27] <tlu2> i know there pretty much volitile
[22:28] <tlu2> this loading is going to kill me
[22:28] <tlu2> hello there
[22:28] <tlu2> vineet
[22:30] <tlu2> the kubuntu background looks pretty trippy if you rock your head back and forth
[22:31] <tlu2> im easily amused
[22:31] <tlu2> still loading
[22:32] <tlu2> this is taking very long
[22:32] <tlu2> vineet_
[22:33] <tlu2> vineet_vineet
[22:33] <tlu2> see what i did there
[22:35] <tlu2> i think its stuck on the checking disks
[22:35] <tlu2> it will probably load now that i said that
[22:36] <tlu2> vineet
[22:37] <tlu2> its definitly stuck
[22:37] <tlu2> how long should i wait?
[22:38] <valorie> tlu2: are installing, or what?
[22:38] <valorie> checking disks takes some time if you are installing
[22:39] <tlu2> oops, what was that?
[22:39] <tlu2> linman
[22:39] <tlu2> hey
[22:40] <tlu2> i dont know you
[22:40] <tlu2> but i need help
[22:42] <tlu2> help
[22:43] <tlu2> im trying to restart the process
[22:43] <tlu2> heyy its actually checking the harddisk
[22:43] <tlu2> its working
[22:45] <tlu2> it couldnt notify the kernel of changes
[22:45] <tlu2> is it safe to continue?
[22:46] <tlu2> really, i dont want to screw up or waste time!
[22:46] <tlu2> godfather?
[22:47] <tlu2> ugh
[22:48] <tlu2> nickgeoca
[22:48] <tlu2> *
[22:48] <tlu2> @*
[22:49] <valorie> tlu2: stop doing this
[22:49] <valorie> ask real questions or leave
[22:50] <tlu1> it couldnt notify the kernel about changes to the hdd, is it safe to continue?
[22:50] <tlu1> cant i run like modprobe --something or whatever?
[22:50] <valorie> !modprobe
[22:50] <valorie> huh
[22:50] <valorie> I've never done that while installing
[22:51] <valorie> I suggest asking in #ubuntu since it is a larger channel
[22:51] <valorie> and this is an installer issue, not a Kubuntu issue
[22:51] <ahoneybun> modprobe starts kernel mods
[22:55] <tlu1> okay, is there a ommand to notify the kernel of changes to a disk
[22:55] <tlu1> or should i just reboot?
[23:06] <tlu1> ive come to the amazing conclusion, i just rebooted
[23:11] <valorie> tlu1: do you have a good install?
[23:11] <tlu1> yes, but a bad computer
[23:26] <underfact> hello world, i am tlu1
[23:27] <valorie> on your new install, underfact?
[23:27] <underfact> hellpo
[23:27] <underfact> it crashed again, its rebooting now
[23:28] <underfact> opengl 2.0 sucks
[23:30] <underfact> all of the windows just lost their top bar thing and wont close
[23:30] <underfact> another reboot........
[23:31] <underfact> it wont reboot
[23:32] <underfact> now it rebooted
[23:32] <underfact> what a process
[23:34] <valorie> even on a very slow and underpowered XP machine, I had no crashes
[23:34] <valorie> just slow
[23:35] <underfact> my machine is a first gen atlon 64, with very unprofected 64 bit cpu, so that explains some of it, because amd has probably changed their architecture some..
[23:35] <underfact> maybe the 32 bit version will work?
[23:35] <valorie> could be
[23:36] <valorie> 32 bit will always work
[23:36] <underfact> ill tryy it
[23:36] <underfact> tryy lol
[23:37] <underfact> loading xp ):
[23:38] <underfact> it amazes me that windows xp boots in 3 seconds on this computer!
[23:38] <valorie> 32 will not be better though
[23:38]  * valorie goes off to eat dinner
[23:38] <underfact> time to download the big file on my small internet connection, will the torrent or direct download be better
[23:38] <valorie> torrent
[23:38] <valorie> always
[23:39] <valorie> you get built-in checking
[23:39] <underfact> kk, have a good dinner
[23:40] <underfact> stupid windows xp makes me install wifi drivers whenever it boots
[23:41] <underfact> all the bots in the room say "I"
[23:43] <underfact> all the bots in the room say "I"
[23:44] <underfact> does MB or Mb mean megabit?
[23:47] <underfact> my internet is so slow, i used to have 60Mb/s up and down and like 7ms of latency from comcast and it was cheap, but then we moved and the same plan was like 200$ a month or some bs like that, and then a bot says that this is too long and off topic
[23:47] <underfact> download is halfway done
[23:47] <underfact> brb
[23:50] <underfact> back
[23:51] <underfact> my cat is with me now
[23:51] <underfact> the download is done
[23:52] <underfact> sadly, i have to be a leecher, due to symmetrical bandwith caps making it so that if im uploading, my down speed goes down
[23:55] <underfact> who here watches linus tech tips?