[00:02] valorie: i did in the past, until i realized the community never fic things working bad in non LTS releases, so non LTS releases are pretty unstable for daily usage or production environments [00:02] when we have the time, we do backport, at least for a few months [00:03] but it's true that most of the energy goes into the next release, and backporting to LTS [00:21] I'm 16.10 as well [00:22] i'm usin kubuntu at work [00:22] sticking with lts [00:22] pls release updates [00:22] your welcome to help package stuff [00:24] hmmm [00:24] i'm thinking to use a USB stick as a swap... [00:25] dell produce a linux laptop with a very hi-res display 'precision 5510', it looks really nice, has anyone got one? Wondering about scaling issues with applications. and how it works with KDE [00:52] Everything should scale === kcasper_ is now known as kc === Zren_ is now known as Zren [01:51] when will qt/kde be updated in xenial 16.04 lts? [01:51] ???????????????????????????????????????????/ [01:51] damn... i thuink i have no other option than leave KDE for a while [01:51] things are getting worse... sigh [01:51] yup.. kde is now sucking [01:52] windows 10 more updates [01:53] it is not making sense anymore... i updated, placed a real GPU card, using proprietary drivers... and now the windows contents freeze, i can still minimize/restore windows, or move them, but the content freeze, i see a lot of hard disk activity, and after the disk stops the windows' content become updated and i can interact with it again... [01:53] but that really does not make any sense!!! [01:54] i check the swap, to see if that's the problem... and i have enough free RAM so i'm not using the swap! [01:55] i disabled the swap... and the thing [persists! what's wrong with linux! [01:55] lol... [01:56] it seems hw/driver problem [01:56] which process is using disk i/o? [01:56] u can do the command iotop [01:56] type 'iotop' [01:58] kubuntu is now a ripoff [01:59] restoring kmail - it seems to have restored my folder with names like "akonadi_imap_resource_10rc" etc instead of the original names, and now wants me to pick which one for each account (I have a bunch). How am I supposed to know which one is which? [02:03] oh I can manually unzip the old settings and dig in resources/ to see. === chadrs00 is now known as chadrs00_ === tanjoodo is now known as Tanjoodo === JonathanD is now known as Guest39653 === Don is now known as Guest29324 === bfoote_ is now known as bfoote === atomic is now known as Guest89152 [05:23] ddd [05:25] hello everyone === mariogrip_ is now known as mariogrip [05:26] 666 [05:26] hello everyone === AciD- is now known as AciD` [07:09] 999 [07:09] olleh [08:29] Good morning. [08:39] 16.10 here as well :) [08:52] hallo [08:54] Jesli ktos komus nie odpisuje na IRC'u to jest zbukiem. [08:55] !pl | cmmku [08:55] cmmku: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl. [08:55] A gdy krnobrnost Twoja jest tak duza ze uparcie milczysz wtedy stajesz sie zbukiem smrodliwym. [08:55] All right. Sorry. [08:55] No worries ;) [08:56] :) [08:56] Not good. I don't speak english. :/ [09:00] My english is so weak that i rather i'll go myself or will I wrote very little and slowly. [09:03] Thank you ;) [09:08] cmmku: Join #ubuntu-pl then, there might be people there who can help you in your native tongue. [09:25] I'm going down.I wish you did not have a nice day. [09:28] Joke. [10:15] do you know that you must lock widgets and reboot if you have more then five icons set to launch in pnael by kmenu if you want them to stay put [10:16] of you kill xserver or logout they go all over the panel [10:16] you must reboot first [10:16] weird === ChetManly is now known as sarcasmking === sarcasmking is now known as ChetManly [11:43] hey how do I make firefox not be retarded when it "picks" what program to launch [11:43] like opening gwenview to browse file and such [11:49] it literally has no idea what to pick [11:49] what does it mean with file-system: socket not connected [11:53] Howdy folks === Guest39653 is now known as JonathanD === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer === juboxi is now known as jubo2 === Pici` is now known as Pici [12:57] hello all [12:57] anyone here? [12:59] I have a bit of an issue.. I have a friend who gave me his laptop with no files in /boot (apparently they were however saved to /boot/boot-sav/)... I have the laptop booted to a USB stick.. my idea was to move the boot files back, run update-grub (after mountint this directory as /boot) and doing apt-get update/dist-upgrade on it... [12:59] Mis-anthrope_: o/ [12:59] and hi jasonwert [13:00] Hey EvilRoey [13:00] hihi [13:00] I have a bit of an issue.. I have a friend who gave me his laptop with no files in /boot (apparently they were however saved to /boot/boot-sav/)... I have the laptop booted to a USB stick.. my idea was to move the boot files back, run update-grub (after mountint this directory as /boot) and doing apt-get update/dist-upgrade on it... [13:00] Mis-anthrope_: ^ [13:00] I am a noob in linux.. :) [13:01] so sowwy but I cant help :\ [13:01] ah :) got it [13:01] thanks anyway [13:01] EvilRoey: UEFI? [13:01] oh hi BluesKaj :) :) [13:02] ermI don't think so [13:02] dell lattitude e7440 [13:02] better check === mhall119_ is now known as mhall119 [13:04] BluesKaj: how do I check? [13:06] EvilRoey: open the BIOS. the laptop is uefi or bios, if it's newer than 2010 then probly uefi [13:07] who uses /boot anymore anyway ? [13:08] unless it's uefi with windows [13:54] so weird stuff... === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter_work [14:00] My system partialy freezes from time to time: windows' content freezes, so i can't interact with websites or this chat, but windows' controls and window manager remain usable, i can minimize and restore windows and alt-tab them. During the freezing i see high disk usage either with swap on or off. I fsck-ed the file systems and they're ok. I ran the SMART self test twice, disk is ok, also ... [14:01] ... disk SMART stats are the best of all my 4 drives. I'm puzzled. [14:01] why disk usage freeze windows' content? I also switched from the ATI onboard GPU to the NVIDIA PCIE GPU... same issue... it makes NO sense for me [14:01] any idea? [14:05] (i'd expect something thjat weird on Windows...) === tarator85 is now known as tarator [15:54] anyone in here? [16:03] kubuntu sucks, no qt/kde libs update for 2 months already [16:43] chcknrub: meybe you need to add the kubuntu-backports ppa [16:44] The download link never works, it always fails before it finishes. I try different mirrors, other versions, they all never complete. I have been trying for two days and clicked the download link probably 30 times. what is the problem? [16:55] user|10579: Try the torrents instead then. [17:04] I cant, it is for work. Torrent client not allowed [17:04] user|10579: is this the amd64 16.04.1 iso? [17:11] user|10579: Well, I just downloaded the iso via http in Firefox, and it completed fine and SHA256 has verifies the image as complete [17:11] so I guess there is an issue with your network or something === JeroenDeDauw_ is now known as JeroenDeDauw [17:16] user|10579: just tip about downloading with firefox ..the doen load might stall near the end saying "just a few seconds left" if it remains so for more thn a few minutes , pause it and restart ,,,for some reason FF downloader has been acting up for while now [17:17] zysnc is another option [17:24] acheronuk: I usd zsync and it mucked up a couple of times as well...it could be the source mirrors [17:46] user|10579: what link? [17:57] i already added backports [17:58] :( [18:17] hello kkubuntu 16.04 complains about flashplugin-installer any idea? [18:18] fail downloading extra data files [18:18] and the package willing to do that is flashplugin-installer [18:19] pineapplelover_: Likely you upgraded from an earlier Kubuntu where adobe-flashplugin was installed, but not flashplugin-installer [18:20] pineapplelover_: I would suggest from konsole: sudo apt update && sudo apt install flashplugin-installer [18:22] user|10579: if you are downloading a big file, use firefox and the down-them-all extension, it allows you to download by multiple parts simultaneously [18:22] and pause and resume downloads === rohan_ is now known as rohan [19:32] http://imgur.com/gallery/MPEcU [19:34] momoe: I doubt we can get Kubuntu to run on it. [19:50] Folks, do you have an idea what this is? http://imgur.com/K6UrrEf [19:51] The folders are all different and suddenly I have to doubleclick to open a file [19:51] It must have happened with one of the last updates === kubuntu is now known as Guest83000 [19:55] mpo42vr_- it looks like Dolphin with default settings [19:58] Except that some folders are themed and most are not [19:58] I can't change the icons [19:58] And where do I change back to "single-click opens the file"? [20:00] Anyone here know something about https://neon.kde.org/? [20:00] Is this kubuntu or something else? [20:00] www.chcknrub.com [20:00] my website [20:01] kindly click and visit [20:03] wish^- as far as I know, it's a KDE project, not Kubuntu [20:03] click --> www.chcknrub.com <-- click [20:05] i am planning to switch to other kde distro [20:05] because xenial lts 16.04 has no update for months [20:05] it is buggy too [20:06] akregator marks all articles as read automatically [20:06] konsole don't remember tabs after reboot [20:06] it is fixed in latest kde/qt, but xenial has no updates [21:24] i need help [21:25] hello world? [21:26] is anybody there? [21:27] I need help installing kubuntu [21:29] whats the problem? [21:32] when i try to install kubuntu it say that ubi-partman crashed, so i cant install it [21:34] if you are saying stuff right now i cant see it. [21:39] i need help [21:41] hello? [21:41] lethu? [21:42] tlu, yes? [21:42] i need help installing kubuntu [21:43] tlu, what's the problem? [21:43] when i triy to install it says that ubi-partman crashed. [21:43] so i cant make a swapfile [21:43] which version is it? [21:44] also do you try to install from live? [21:44] 16.04 lts [21:44] and yes [21:44] try installing without live environment booted [21:44] there isnt an option for that [21:44] there should be [21:44] where? [21:45] the first welcome screen [21:45] when i boot from the flash drive, it just goes straight to the desktop [21:46] which tool did you use to make the usb? [21:46] rufus [21:46] bad [21:46] why [21:46] use uui [21:46] i have never had anything bad happen with rufus.... [21:47] ill try tho... [21:47] good luck [21:47] kk [21:49] ok, its formatting right now [21:49] it might take awhile. [21:49] good [21:49] extracting [21:51] also a little side question, how come when i try to run any ubuntu flavour in a vm, a whole bunch of coloured text shows up? its fine if you dont know, though. [21:52] no idea sorry never tried ubuntu on a vm [21:52] ok, i dont really need to do that anyway. [21:52] good [21:53] its almost done. [21:55] im going to go on my tablet now, brb [21:57] im going to login as tlu2 [21:58] hey [21:58] this is definitly strange like this [21:59] 7zip appears to have hung while extracting preseed/kubuntu.seed [22:00] ok its gotten over that... [22:01] :) [22:01] its creating persistant file... [22:03] its taking just as long as dd, lol. [22:03] that could just mean that my flash drive is garbage [22:04] 7zip? [22:04] why on earth is that there? [22:05] because windows xp..... :P [22:05] ah [22:05] yeah... [22:05] my sympathy [22:05] lel [22:06] god this takes forever! [22:06] brb [22:06] kk [22:07] the notice to be patient makes it feel even longer [22:08] finally dd is done [22:10] im going to try booting from it now [22:11] its showing the menu! [22:11] i bet that rufus didnt know how to make the proper mbr files === morpheous is now known as morpheous96 [22:12] there isnt a option in the menu to just install without the live environment [22:12] just boot it [22:12] ok [22:13] then install [22:13] its booting [22:13] good === morpheous96 is now known as morpheous69 [22:13] ... [22:13] rufus has a reputation of messing live usb's [22:13] lol ok === morpheous69 is now known as morpheous96 [22:13] once kubuntu is installed i can use dd [22:14] data destroyer [22:14] loading [22:15] my computer is so slow [22:15] umm, it usually isnt this slow to start the desktop [22:15] xp computers are ..... [22:16] finally, speak of the devil [22:16] you might have better luck with lubuntu or so [22:16] no, i mean that with the usb from rufus it was faster [22:17] this computer runs xp because its from the vista era [22:17] woooooaaahh z-fighting [22:17] jeez [22:17] gotta fix that.... [22:18] talking to myself [22:18] xrendr [22:18] moment of truth, will it install [22:20] kind of annoying that it asks for the wifi password twice [22:20] or three times? [22:21] four times? wtf [22:21] failed [22:21] five times. T_T [22:22] oh well finally [22:22] loading [22:23] (world record most single sided conversation ever) [22:24] still loading [22:24] I did have a problem with it asking multiple times [22:24] once [22:24] usually Just Works [22:25] it worked eventually [22:25] i used to run lubuntu, but my computer can run kubuntu just fine and it has a much better ui. [22:27] even though i have two floppy drives, there aftermarket so i can play old games and backup small code projects (dont criticize me) [22:27] i know there pretty much volitile [22:28] this loading is going to kill me [22:28] hello there [22:28] vineet [22:30] the kubuntu background looks pretty trippy if you rock your head back and forth [22:31] im easily amused [22:31] still loading [22:32] this is taking very long [22:32] vineet_ [22:33] vineet_vineet [22:33] see what i did there [22:35] i think its stuck on the checking disks [22:35] it will probably load now that i said that [22:36] vineet [22:37] its definitly stuck [22:37] how long should i wait? [22:38] tlu2: are installing, or what? [22:38] checking disks takes some time if you are installing [22:39] oops, what was that? === nickgeoca is now known as linman [22:39] linman [22:39] hey [22:40] i dont know you [22:40] but i need help [22:42] help [22:43] im trying to restart the process [22:43] heyy its actually checking the harddisk [22:43] its working [22:45] it couldnt notify the kernel of changes [22:45] is it safe to continue? [22:46] really, i dont want to screw up or waste time! [22:46] godfather? [22:47] ugh [22:48] nickgeoca [22:48] * [22:48] @* [22:49] tlu2: stop doing this [22:49] ask real questions or leave [22:50] it couldnt notify the kernel about changes to the hdd, is it safe to continue? [22:50] cant i run like modprobe --something or whatever? [22:50] !modprobe [22:50] huh [22:50] I've never done that while installing [22:51] I suggest asking in #ubuntu since it is a larger channel [22:51] and this is an installer issue, not a Kubuntu issue [22:51] modprobe starts kernel mods [22:55] okay, is there a ommand to notify the kernel of changes to a disk [22:55] or should i just reboot? [23:06] ive come to the amazing conclusion, i just rebooted [23:11] tlu1: do you have a good install? [23:11] yes, but a bad computer [23:26] hello world, i am tlu1 [23:27] on your new install, underfact? [23:27] hellpo [23:27] it crashed again, its rebooting now [23:28] opengl 2.0 sucks [23:30] all of the windows just lost their top bar thing and wont close [23:30] another reboot........ [23:31] it wont reboot [23:32] now it rebooted [23:32] what a process [23:34] even on a very slow and underpowered XP machine, I had no crashes [23:34] just slow [23:35] my machine is a first gen atlon 64, with very unprofected 64 bit cpu, so that explains some of it, because amd has probably changed their architecture some.. [23:35] maybe the 32 bit version will work? [23:35] could be [23:36] 32 bit will always work [23:36] ill tryy it [23:36] tryy lol [23:37] loading xp ): [23:38] it amazes me that windows xp boots in 3 seconds on this computer! [23:38] 32 will not be better though [23:38] * valorie goes off to eat dinner [23:38] time to download the big file on my small internet connection, will the torrent or direct download be better [23:38] torrent [23:38] always [23:39] you get built-in checking [23:39] kk, have a good dinner [23:40] stupid windows xp makes me install wifi drivers whenever it boots [23:41] all the bots in the room say "I" [23:43] all the bots in the room say "I" [23:44] does MB or Mb mean megabit? [23:47] my internet is so slow, i used to have 60Mb/s up and down and like 7ms of latency from comcast and it was cheap, but then we moved and the same plan was like 200$ a month or some bs like that, and then a bot says that this is too long and off topic [23:47] download is halfway done [23:47] brb [23:50] back [23:51] my cat is with me now [23:51] the download is done [23:52] sadly, i have to be a leecher, due to symmetrical bandwith caps making it so that if im uploading, my down speed goes down [23:55] who here watches linus tech tips?