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tsimonq2is there a list of packagesets and packages that belong to those packagesets somewhere?02:48
tsimonq2I also wonder if I can use the Launchpad API to look at that...02:49
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pittiGood morning05:52
Unit193Howdy.05:52
pittiapw: FYI, I reopened bug 1626436, -17 still boots a lot slower than 4.4 and with high loads; although a lot less severe than the previous -1405:53
ubottubug 1626436 in linux (Ubuntu) "[4.8 regression] boot has become very slow" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162643605:53
didrocksgood morning pitti!06:07
pittibonjour didrocks, ça va ?06:10
didrockspitti: ça va bien, et toi ? :)06:12
pittididrocks: je vais bien aussi; salutations de Berlin, je reste chez larsu :)06:13
didrockspitti: oh, c'est vrai ! Dis-lui bonjour de ma part :)06:13
pittididrocks: je vais le faire, merci ! (il encore dort)06:14
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pittihappyaro1, cyphermox: I didn't get around to creating a NetworkManager DNS plugin for resolved this cycle, got diverted by too many other things; at this point I'd just revert NM back to using dnsmasq, like we had before; is that ok for you?07:52
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tsimonq2pitti: morning, could you please take another look at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2016-September/000824.html ?10:51
tsimonq2(afair you said you would take a look today)10:51
sil2100cjwatson_: hey! I was wondering - there's such a strange situation we have right now in -proposed, ubuntu-keyboard 0.100+16.10.20160921-0ubuntu1 is there but the binary for ubuntu-keyboard-data for this version is not, even though it was not removed or anything11:06
sil2100cjwatson_: tested in an yakkety-proposed amd64 chroot with apt-cache policy and even launchpad acts strangely here11:06
sil2100https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/yakkety/+package/ubuntu-keyboard-data <- this only shows the old version11:07
sil2100https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/yakkety/+package/ubuntu-keyboard <- while here's the main ubuntu-keyboard binary from -proposed11:07
sil2100cjwatson_: do you know what could be the cause of it?11:07
sil2100cjwatson_: does it mean someone removed the binaries from -proposed?11:07
cjwatson_https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/yakkety/amd64/ubuntu-keyboard-data is more useful11:10
cjwatson_that says it was superseded by ubuntu-keyboard 0.100+16.10.20160921-0ubuntu111:11
cjwatson_er, wait, what11:11
cjwatson_this may have been a race of some kind, let me dig through logs a bit11:11
sil2100Strangeness I see, 0.100+16.10.20160921-0ubuntu1 should have ubuntu-keyboard-data but it doesn't, even though on the LP build page I see it being generated11:11
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sil2100This also basically blocks ubuntu-keyboard and unity8 in -proposed11:12
sil2100Since, yeah, the autopkgtests can't run since it can't install ubuntu-keyboard-data for the -proposed ubuntu-keyboard, since the binaries are not there! ;)11:12
cjwatsonthere are two copy records here which suggests something like a double-override accident11:13
sil2100uh, sounds scary11:14
sil2100Thanks for looking into that!11:15
Mirv@pilot in11:16
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cjwatsoncertainly seems to have been copied rather a lot11:17
cjwatsonceleryd-production_launchpad_job.log-20160923.gz:[2016-09-22 15:37:07,396: INFO/Worker-1] Running <PlainPackageCopyJob to copy package ubuntu-keyboard from ~ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu/1974, RELEASE pocket, in ubuntu yakkety to ubuntu, PROPOSED pocket, in ubuntu yakkety, including binaries> (ID 33200448) in status Waiting11:17
cjwatsonceleryd-production_launchpad_job.log-20160923.gz:[2016-09-22 22:45:27,787: INFO/Worker-2] Running <PlainPackageCopyJob to copy package ubuntu-keyboard from ~ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu/1974, RELEASE pocket, in ubuntu yakkety to ubuntu, PROPOSED pocket, in ubuntu yakkety, including binaries> (ID 33204726) in status Waiting11:17
cjwatsonceleryd-production_launchpad_job.log-20160924.gz:[2016-09-23 23:46:15,121: INFO/Worker-1] Running <PlainPackageCopyJob to copy package ubuntu-keyboard from ~ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu/1974, RELEASE pocket, in ubuntu yakkety to ubuntu, PROPOSED pocket, in ubuntu yakkety, including binaries> (ID 33200448) in status Waiting11:17
cjwatsonceleryd-production_launchpad_job.log-20160924.gz:[2016-09-23 23:46:16,081: INFO/Worker-3] Running <PlainPackageCopyJob to copy package ubuntu-keyboard from ~ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu/1974, RELEASE pocket, in ubuntu yakkety to ubuntu, PROPOSED pocket, in ubuntu yakkety, including binaries> (ID 33204726) in status Waiting11:17
sil2100Oh!11:18
sil2100I think I was doing the copy, and I remember that it hanged on the last package11:18
sil2100Like, the copy-package script11:18
sil2100I think I aborted and re-run again, but that should cause 2 copies at max I guess?11:18
sil2100Since the bileto publish job was busted I had to publish some packages manually through copy-package11:19
cjwatsonthe first two of those copies were suspended, i.e. held in UNAPPROVED11:19
sil2100(I feel so bad since it might have been me that busted things)11:19
cjwatsonso I think you did a double copy, both ended up in the queue11:19
cjwatsonthen when they were accepted, two copies of the same package were accepted simultaneously (literally - two celery workers were processing those two copies in parallel)11:20
cjwatsonand our locking isn't always what it could be11:20
cjwatsonso, easy to fix, I'll just copy it over itself11:20
cjwatsondone, should hopefully sort itself out in a bit11:22
sil2100cjwatson: thanks!11:23
sil2100Sorry for the commotion, I didn't know if the first run copied everything since it seemed hanged so I preferred to just do a second copy, as I didn't expect it to cause two entries in UNAPPROVED11:24
sil2100Now I know it's not so low-risk as I thought it is11:24
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ogra_oh man ...11:54
* ogra_ has a failed 14.04 -> 16.04.1 server upgrade and in the middle of sending the error report lp goes down ... 11:55
ogra_must be my lucky day11:55
ogra_sigh11:58
Laneyno bug here, move along11:58
ogra_oh man12:01
ogra_ogra@aleph:~$ sudo reboot12:01
ogra_sudo: reboot: command not found12:01
ogra_that ugrade went *really* wrong12:01
ogra_(it tried to do a lot of insserv stuff, re-ordering sysv scripts and so on ... )12:02
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ogra_hmm, not even remotely a trace of systemd on that machine ...12:07
ogra_thats rather unexpected ... specifically since i used do-release-upgrade12:07
LaneyAnyone know of a dpkg gotcha when replacing directories with symlinks? https://paste.debian.net/841984/12:12
LaneyIt becomes an empty directory instead of a symlink12:12
LaneyDo I have to do it in postinst?12:13
jamespageLaney, I think there is a helper todo that12:14
cjwatsonLaney: Yep, that's standard.  dpkg-maintscript-helper can help12:14
cjwatson(via dh_installdeb, probably)12:14
cjwatsondir_to_symlink12:14
Laneyaha12:14
LaneyNot sure I've come across this particular one before12:14
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Mirvsil2100: are you landing the ubuntu-touch-meta part of bug #1625023 ? (asking with my patch pilot hat on)13:09
ubottubug 1625023 in Canonical System Image "switch to systemd on ubuntu phone xenial" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162502313:10
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cyphermoxpitti: no objections13:14
Mirv@pilot out13:19
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sil2100Mirv: yeah, I'm on it13:23
sil2100Mirv: for now no action required there, we'll do the switch in the nearest days13:24
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Mirvsil2100: ok13:28
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ogra_oh sigh13:41
* dholbach hugs Mirv 13:42
ogra_pitti, so i just had my server eat itself completely doing a 14.04->16.04.1 do-release-upgrade ... i now have a ton of insserv complaints every time i use apt ... systemd wasnt installled at all ... grub ended up with only memtest in it ...13:42
ogra_pitti, can i just purge insserv ? iirc we dont need it13:42
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ogra_(i just manually installed grub and systemd so i got at least back to ssh support)13:42
* ogra_ thinks that was the worst ubuntu expirience he had yet ... just using official tools :(13:43
pittiogra_: hm, you can purge insserv in 16.10, but not yet in 16.04; what did it say? some broken sysv script somewhere without LSB headers?13:50
ogra_pitti, about 200 lines every few seconds ...13:50
ogra_yeah, LSB header noise13:50
ogra_now that i got back to a working system (after installing grub by hand from an old 11.04 CD i had around since mini.iso from USB was to new for the BIOS on that old iron) i just noticed that dist-upgrade wants to still upgrade ~600 packages13:51
ogra_so i guess the insserv thing was caused by a half upgraded system ... i'll see that i get to normal first13:52
ogra_still pretty bad that do-release-upgrade can get you into such a state13:52
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pittiLaunchpad, where are thou14:07
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caribouThis may sound as a silly question, but what is the normal procedure to generate a _sources.changes file for a debian native package ? dpkg-genchanges -S ?14:20
LocutusOfBorgcaribou, yes, I do that usually14:22
LocutusOfBorgactually -S -d14:22
LocutusOfBorg:)14:22
LocutusOfBorgand -sa when needed14:22
caribouLocutusOfBorg: good, thanks!14:23
LocutusOfBorgyw!14:23
Mirvsitter: note that this is coming from snappy newbie who is mostly having fun and learning the tool, but I started with https://github.com/tjyrinki/qt-ubuntu and it's available in edge channel (just not sure if any useful at the moment for anything). my main wish is to have a snap that contains the Qt as known in Ubuntu world (hence, "qt-ubuntu"), with all the patches we've wanted to cherry-pick or14:24
Mirvbackport for our products.14:24
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cjwatsonpitti: network failure14:24
ogra_stuck in the cable ?14:25
sitterMirv: seems reasonable. for KDE the current plan (really just vision) is to have an own Qt though to tighter control patches etc.14:28
Mirvsitter: right, mine can also be called mostly a vision at the moment. it's really up to how will the eventual needs seem to be - snap does allow a lot of flexibility in all directions, meaning not everyone needs to use the common one, but still eg snapcraft work can be shared14:30
sitterMirv: agreed14:31
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* ogra_ glares at his sever removing config files for usplash 14:46
ogra_hmm, i knew this install was old ... i wasnt aware *how* old actually14:47
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bdmurrayflexiondotorg: Is there a reason you mark bugs like bug 1601874 as Incomplete?15:00
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1601874 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1601874). The error has been logged15:00
rbasak!dmb-ping15:01
ubottubdmurray, BenC, cyphermox, infinity, micahg, rbasak, sil2100: DMB ping.15:01
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flexiondotorgbdmurray, When LP comes back I'll take a look.15:12
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ogra_oooh ... LP is back (at least for the bug i just reloaded)16:05
pitti-ish (slow, but stuff is coming through)16:06
pittismoser:16:18
pitti+Before=NetworkManager.service16:18
pitti Before=network-pre.target16:18
pittismb: that's a no-op and looks like some red herring16:18
pittismb: ifupdown, NM, networkd, and similar things all run after network-pre.target (that's its purpose)16:19
smbsmoser, ^16:19
pittisorry, smoser ^16:19
smoserpitti, added for redhat16:20
smoseras you say, shoudl be a noop16:20
smoserright?16:20
pittismoser: oh, is their NM not doing After=network-pre.target?16:21
smoseri think that network-pre.target is an ubuntu-ism, no?16:22
pittino16:22
pittiboth the target and NM.service are the upstream units16:22
pittiwe don't have ubuntu specific targets16:22
pitti(well, in the systemd package -- obviously there are some from packages like cloud-init)16:23
smoserhm..16:24
smoserpitti, how'd you see this ?16:24
pittismoser: doing yakkety unapproved queue review16:24
* pitti felt like some punishment in the evening before dinner :)16:25
pittialso, the DC is coming back, so catching up with stuff16:25
smoseryea16:25
pittismoser: so, as this shuldn't be different in RH I was just curious what it should do, and if there maybe is some "real" bug somewhere16:27
smoserpitti, want to join #cloud-init and see if harlowja will respond ?16:28
smoserhe is who did this, and uses cent.16:28
pittismoser: done; I'll be AFK for dinner RSN, but I'll get backscroll16:29
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nacccoreycb: fyi, ftfbs from doko's last e-mail for cinder, I think it's because you need a build-dep on python-pep8 or python3-pep8 for the tests?17:07
nacccoreycb: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/285536781/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.cinder_2%3A9.0.0~b2-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz17:07
coreycbnacc, I think that is fixed by rc1 which is in proposed17:24
nacccoreycb: ack, thanks!17:25
coreycbnacc, yw, it is great when things are already fixed :)  btw that is stuck in proposed based on a few dependencies we're fixing up.17:29
nacccoreycb: np, i'm just trying to keep an eye on the  ubuntu-server ftbfs list17:31
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smoserpitti, i would like your opinion on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gce-utils/+bug/162778917:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1627789 in gce-utils (Ubuntu) " ordering cycle prevents google-startup-scripts from running" [High,Triaged]17:53
naccdoko: for the ftbfs for libecap, i think the 3 symbols mentioned in https://launchpadlibrarian.net/285536159/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-i386.libecap_1.0.1-3ubuntu3_BUILDING.txt.gz (same for all the arch's build logs) are no longer present. `pkgkde-symbolshelper` parsing the build-log as input does seem to want to just elide those 3 -- but I'm inexperienced in this area?18:09
bdmurrayflexiondotorg: so about bug 1601911 - why is it incomplete?18:10
ubottubug 1601911 in mate-menu (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/mate-menu/mate-menu-config.py:11:g_type_check_instance_is_fundamentally_a:g_object_unref:model_free_row_data:model_update_current_folder:update_combo_box" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160191118:10
flexiondotorgbdmurray, Reagarding 1601874 you mentioned ealier, it is from an old package from a PPA.18:12
flexiondotorgAs for 1601911, I've never encountered it and can't reproduce it.18:14
bdmurrayflexiondotorg: bug 1601874 also occurered with version 16.04.9.1 which is the Xenial version of the package...18:16
ubottubug 1601874 in ubuntu-mate-welcome (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/ubuntu-mate-welcome:11:_gtk_style_provider_private_get_settings:gtk_css_value_initial_compute:gtk_css_static_style_compute_value:_gtk_css_lookup_resolve:gtk_css_static_style_new_compute" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160187418:16
bdmurrayflexiondotorg: I'm trying to understand why you marked a whole bunch of crash reports from the Error Tracker as Incomplete.  Its hard to tell just based off the bug.18:18
flexiondotorgbdmurray, The rationale for marking those bugs incomplete is we've spent about 5 days testing Ubuntu MATE Welcome.18:19
flexiondotorgThe version in Xenial and the version we've been preparing for Yakkety.18:19
flexiondotorgNone of the team were able to excercise Ubuntu MATE Welcome is such a way to cause those errors :-(18:20
bdmurrayflexiondotorg: and what about engrampa or atril? e.g. this crash with 340 instances https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/bf4ee7bcedb2e9da402d6486d69fe3cf5fc783f718:21
flexiondotorgbdmurray, I just requested access errors.ubuntu.com18:26
bdmurrayflexiondotorg: Maybe we should mark the bugs as New then, rather than causing them to expire in 60 days?18:26
flexiondotorgbdmurray, Can you help me understand the correct way to interact with bugs I can't reproduce please?18:27
flexiondotorgOK, I can mark them New.18:27
bdmurrayflexiondotorg: I think the first step would be to look at the crashes, let me give you access to errors.18:28
bdmurrayflexiondotorg: Can you access this now? https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/bf4ee7bcedb2e9da402d6486d69fe3cf5fc783f718:29
flexiondotorgYes. Excellent!18:30
bdmurrayflexiondotorg: So we can see a Stacktrace there which has details.  Those don't get put in the bug report since it might contain sensitive information.18:31
bdmurrayflexiondotorg: If you look at the Occurences table there are links to the individual crash reports e.g. https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/2da4c81a-8358-11e6-8a94-fa163e30221b18:31
bdmurrayflexiondotorg: That contains the apport crash report information like ProcCmdline which might be useful in recreating the crash18:32
flexiondotorgbdmurray, Thanks, this is great.18:32
bdmurrayflexiondotorg: the version table can also be useful in determining which releases are affected, however just because you don't see it affecting Yakkety doesn't mean it won't.  There aren't a lot of yakkety users yet.18:33
flexiondotorgI thought I'd registered for errors before but that just let me manipulate the graphs.18:33
bdmurrayThat doesn't require any special permissions.18:34
bdmurrayflexiondotorg: if you have any questions about the error tracker or feedback please let me know18:39
flexiondotorgbdmurray, Will do.18:39
naccdoko: looking at libpam-radius-auth ftbfs, but i'm not able to reproduce it.18:46
naccdoko: nm, PEBKAC for libpam-radius-auth, would still appreciate your input on libecap19:12
naccdoko: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234756/ for libpam-radius-auth, does it look sane?19:17
dokonacc: I'll NMU that to Debian too, fabbione package ...19:27
naccdoko: ok19:27
naccdoko: so you'll handle both libpam-radius-auth and libecap?19:28
dokonacc: libecap, yes these destructor symbols are not part of the ABI19:29
naccdoko: ack19:29
dokonacc: are you able to upload libecap yourself? Not sure why we don't see that in Debian19:31
naccdoko: yeah, i can19:32
naccdoko: i just wanted to check with you first19:32
naccdoko: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234825/ ? also, do you normally file a bug for every ftbfs so it's clear what the failure was?19:37
dokonacc: for Ubuntu? no, I gave up on this, because these bugs are then not rracked. maybe we should do that again for main for every package19:39
naccdoko: i have been filing them for myself so i have a place to link the logs19:40
naccjust wasn't sure if there as a 'best practice' already19:40
dokonacc, ahh, libecap in debian doesn't have symbols file ...19:46
naccdoko: yeah, i just realized it's a delta19:46
naccdoko: did the above debdiff seem reasonable?19:46
nacci can upload now, if so19:47
naccdoko: i noticed that with libpam-radius-auth, it's orphaned in debian and we're on a different upstrema there too19:53
jbichanacc: if you use the LP tag 'ftbfs', the bug will show up on http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/19:53
naccjbicha: yep, i realized that last night, so i've been modifying them :)19:54
naccdoko: presuming you ack, i can upload both libecap and libpam-radius-auth for yakkety20:00
naccdoko: ok, llvm-toolchain-3.6 now :) -- seems like gcc 6.1/6.2 isn't provide gcc-6.1/gcc-6.2, but gcc-6? so do we need to adjust that regex to be 5|6?20:18
nacchttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23234972/20:18
pittismoser: LP is oopsing on me again -- I guess I'll have a look tmw morning then20:51
smoserpitti, fair enough20:51
smoserthanks20:51
pittismoser: hmm, https://launchpad.net/ works, but https://launchpad.net/bugs/1627789 oopses20:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1627789 in gce-utils (Ubuntu) " ordering cycle prevents google-startup-scripts from running" [High,Triaged]20:52
pittismoser: can you open it?20:52
smoserno. it had worked earlier today20:53
smoserinterestingly, the private one works :)20:53
pittismoser: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gce-utils/+bug/1627789/+text also works -- I just cannot comment on that20:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1627789 in gce-utils (Ubuntu) " ordering cycle prevents google-startup-scripts from running" [High,Triaged]20:54
pittismoser: looks ok to me; probably all the cloud-init-ish stuff should perhaps rather be installed into cloud-init.target than multi-user, but surely fine for an SRU20:56
smoserpitti, right, but i think they want to run even if cloud-init is not present.20:58
pittismoser: oh, ok; then that looks right20:59
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dokonacc: isn't 3.6 already fixed in Debian, and can be merged? but yes, this should be fixed the same way as in newer llvm's22:14
naccdoko: i'll check22:44
naccdoko: we're already merged to current llvm-toolchain-3.6 in debian22:45
naccafaict22:45
naccdoko: it's https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=83558223:29
ubottuDebian bug 835582 in src:llvm-toolchain-3.6 "llvm-toolchain-3.6: FTBFS with gcc-6" [Serious,Open]23:29
naccdoko: fyi, +1 on the idea of auto-opening ftbfs bugs for packages in main23:36
lfaraoneis there anything I can do to help LP #1571456 (xenial SRU for glibc) get looked at? (waves at infinity :))23:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1571456 in glibc (Ubuntu Xenial) "id crashed with SIGSEGV in sock_eq()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157145623:45
Odd_Blokebarry: doko: Any idea what the status of bug 1443704 is?23:52
ubottubug 1443704 in python2.7 (Ubuntu) "Support for TLS 1.2 not present (added in 2.7.9)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144370423:52
dokonacc: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=83894523:55
ubottuDebian bug 838945 in src:libecap "please incorporate some patches" [Normal,Open]23:55
dokoso once applied, this is syncable23:55
naccdoko: ack, i'll watch for it23:55
naccdoko: i went ahead and submitted the small patch for now, i hope that's ok -- and we can presumably sync once debian is updated23:56
dokobarry: dropped, because I never had the time to finish it. feel free to pick it up again, but then maybe with the package/version from xenial23:56
dokoOdd_Bloke: ^^^23:57
naccdoko: mako is a debian bug as well (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=830178)23:58
ubottuDebian bug 830178 in src:mako "mako: FTBFS: ValueError: too many values to unpack" [Serious,Open]23:58
Odd_Blokedoko: I'm asking for someone else at a sprint; what approach were you taking to make it work?23:59

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