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lordcirthCmaj6, boot Windows, and shut it down properly00:00
lordcirthCmaj6, you may need to turn Win10's fastboot off00:00
Bashing-omrue_shop4: The splash screen for the Display Manager  is the greeter .00:00
rue_shop4hmm00:00
rue_shop4seat0 changes active session to c800:00
rue_shop4c8 is already active00:01
rue_shop4greeter closed channel00:01
rue_shop4doom/chaos/fail00:01
rue_shop4so, the session fails because the greeter trips over itself?00:02
Bashing-omrue_shop4: ' cat /usr/share/xsessions/ubuntu.desktop ' what is set for the release name and the DM to be loaded ?00:02
Cmaj6lordcirth, i just booted windows to check if internet works in there. After verification of internet, i shut down windows properly00:02
lordcirthCmaj6, but Windows 10?00:02
Cmaj6lordcirth, no windows 800:03
lordcirthCmaj6, I think 8 might have it too.  Do a full shutdown with 'shutdown /s /t 0'00:03
rue_shop4there is no release name in there00:04
rue_shop4I think the display manager is unity?00:04
rue_shop4exec=gnome-session --session=ubuntu00:04
Cmaj6lordcirth, okay i'll try00:05
rue_shop4oh, antoher error log says,00:06
rue_shop4org.gnome.sessionmanager was not provided by any .service files00:07
rue_shop4?00:07
Bashing-omrue_shop4: Progress ! We are dealing wuth gnome as the DE . Now there is no point in beating our heads againsts a stone wall. is this a supported release ? what returns ' lsb_release -a ' ?00:08
rue_shop416.0400:09
Cmaj6lordcirth, just started windows, then shutdown with 'shutdown /s /t 0'. Booting Ubuntu and i still have no internet :'(00:09
lordcirthCmaj6, ok, so that's one thing ruled out.00:09
rue_shop4Cmaj6, tell me about it, there is no plug on this laptop for my ethernet cable!00:10
lordcirthCmaj6, and you said that you can connect to wifi, but you get no internet access?00:11
rue_shop4Bashing-om, I'm hoping your going to suggest something really insightfull here00:11
Bashing-omrue_shop4: That do make the cheese mor binding, as 16.04 is systemd, rather than the legacy upstart is the initiate/control system . in that file /usr/share/xsessions/ubuntu.desktop is there " X-LightDM-DesktopName=Unity " ?00:11
rue_shop4nope00:14
rue_shop4shall I add it?00:14
Bashing-omrue_shop4: As 16.04 - systemd - we let the system do it's thing to determine what the DE is . try ' systemctl isolate graphical.target ' from that terminal .00:15
* rue_shop4 gets another little peice of paper00:15
rue_shop4hmm00:16
VapezHello, i have the following eror after i apt-get autoremove - error: can't find command `linux'.00:16
Vapezerror: can't find command `initrd'.00:16
Vapezi autoremove this http://pastebin.com/q56tB48r00:16
Vapezhow can i fix it?00:16
rue_shop4it ran plymouth-start.service and gave the command line back00:16
rue_shop4oh00:17
rue_shop4an error00:17
rue_shop4failed to start graphical.targetreset.target operation failed  operaton refused, may not be isolated00:18
rue_shop4ah, I did as the user and the result was different00:19
rue_shop4we are nolonger a registered auth agent00:20
Bashing-omrue_shop4: Well, when all else fails read the directions . pastebin: ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' . Will have to install the tool ' sudo apt install pastebinit ' . The result is a URL back in terminal, pass that link back here .00:21
rue_shop4arg, its not on the network00:21
rue_shop4thats a really awkward hoop00:22
VapezHello, i have the following eror after i apt-get autoremove - error: can't find command `linux'.00:22
Vapezi autoremove this http://pastebin.com/q56tB48r00:22
rue_shop4Bashing-om, what result are we looking for from that last command?00:22
rue_shop4how about adding X-LightDM-DesktopName=Unity   to  ubuntu.desktop?00:23
rue_shop4maybe I have a usb-ethernet adapter...00:23
Bashing-omrue_shop4: K. well we can hunt an peck . " nolonger a registered auth agenr " >> what returns ' ls -al .ICEauthority ; ls -al .Xauthority ' ?00:23
Bashing-omrue_shop4: That Xorg.0.log log file is a running commentary on what is going on in the Xserver .00:25
rue_shop4there are no errors in the x log00:27
rue_shop4from what I can see, the session manager bails when the greeter fails00:27
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rue_shop41 sec00:27
rue_shop4they both exist and have size00:28
rue_shop4hah, it found the usb adapter, and dhclient got it on the network, but the dns servers weren't set and /etc/resolv.conf dosn't exist00:29
Bashing-omrue_shop4: Similar " -rw------- 1 sysop sysop 209 Jul 28 15:28 .Xauthority " where I am "systop" that I own and am grouped to these files ? .. and to start networkiong from terminal ' systemctl enable NetworkManager.service ; systemctl start NetworkManager.service ' .00:34
rue_shop4ah, ice* is owned by the user and xauth* is owned by root00:35
rue_shop4both are 60000:35
Bashing-omrue_shop4: K. then "you" do not have the authority to access the desk top ! .00:35
rue_shop4oh, k00:36
rue_shop41 min00:36
rue_shop4fixing that didn't change things00:39
orlock_rue_shop4: Have you tried turning it off and on again? :)00:39
rue_shop4:) thanks, I did a reboot after fixing the permissions00:39
Bashing-omrue_shop4: run ' sudo chown <USERNAME>:<USERNAME> .Xauthority ' where USERNAME is the login ID on this system .00:39
rue_shop4it SHOULD be 600 as the user right?00:40
rue_shop4yea00:40
Bashing-omrue_shop4: Cinfirm, 600 .00:40
Bashing-omconfirm*00:40
rue_shop4yup00:41
rue_shop4-rw------00:41
Bashing-omrue_shop4: correct.00:41
rue_shop4the network manager didn't dhcp the network interface...00:43
Bashing-omrue_shop4: Nother stab in the dark - lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' - returns what ?00:43
rue_shop4I'm not one for new fangled things, but I dont see much love for a systemd future00:44
bumblefuzzwhy won't VLC scale my video?00:44
orlock_rue_shop4: the choice has already been made, it's not up to us :-(00:44
orlock_rue_shop4: I don't like it either00:44
bumblefuzzwhen I play a video, it plays small and when I try to make the window larger, it just puts blue borders around it00:44
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bumblefuzzI just installed ubuntu00:45
rue_shop4nothing in use00:45
bumblefuzzdoes anyone know why VLC won't scale its video properly?00:45
orlock_Maybe it depends on your video card and drivers00:45
rue_shop4bumblefuzz, some decoders dont seem to be able to scale the video to full screen00:45
uRockSometimes you  have to click video>aspect ratio bumblefuzz00:46
bumblefuzzok, so what should I do?00:46
Bashing-omrue_shop4: Well, then we know no driver is loaded for graohics . so now we find out what the card is and what the driver should be ,, and get it installed . And now we could really use networking . need to see ' lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'  ' .00:46
ahmed751995excuse me , i can't install any operating system to my pc i can see my partition when use ubuntu or fedora live but when it come to scanning partition while installing it stop ?00:47
uRockUEFI?00:48
rue_shop4intel00:48
rue_shop4remember, startx worked, less session manager00:49
ahmed751995uRock: i don't know00:49
rue_shop4brought up gui and his desktop00:49
uRockahmed751995, you'd have to check in BIOS, I believe I was having that same issue on my kid's PC, which came with Windows 800:49
rue_shop4and there are no fatal errors in xorg logs00:49
Bashing-omrue_shop4: No other hardware listed than Intel ? And we still have to have a driver " in use" to have a GUI .00:50
rue_shop4but x isnt' going00:50
orlock_rue_shop4: is it your window manager or session manager thats not starting?00:52
rue_shop4it kinda looks like the session manager goes down cause the greeter fails00:53
ahmed751995_what is the solution now00:54
uRockrestart the system and go into BIOS to see what it is using? When you boot into live boot, what partition table is being used? ahmed751995_00:55
OerHeksahmed751995_, boot into live mode, and see with diskmanager how man primairy partitions you have ( max 4)00:56
rue_shop4Intel Iris pro graphics00:56
OerHeksthat would skip seeking on that disk too.00:56
rue_shop4HD graphics 400000:56
uRockOerHeks, good call00:56
ahmed751995_OerHeks: i have 2 ntfs and 1 for boot and 2 ext400:57
uRockahmed751995_, GPT or MBS partition table?00:58
uRockMBR00:58
Bashing-omrue_shop4: laptop machine ? used to be that the boot  parameter " acpi_osi=Linux  " or some such was required for the HD graphics 4000 .00:59
ahmed751995_when i tried use gparted i got this output : Assertion (metadata_length > 0) at ../../../libparted/labels/dos.c:2313 in function add_logical_part_metadata() failed.00:59
uRockahmed751995_, sounds like you should try deleting EXT partitions and create an Extended partition to create the EXTand SWAP partitions within01:00
orlock_Bashing-om: His graphics work though01:00
rue_shop4yes, laptop01:00
rue_shop4Bashing-om, ok, but I can run startx...01:01
orlock_Can you get xeyes to appear too?01:01
rue_shop4no, it wont bring up terminal01:01
orlock_You don't need it to01:02
rue_shop4just a desktop with all his files on it, and the X cursor01:02
rue_shop4yea, but bring up 50 xeyes is good for 5 mins of giggles01:02
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ahmed751995_i will try and i will come back if i faced any problem01:02
orlock_rue_shop4: sounds weird, if you see a desktop and files then you should have a window manager01:03
orlock_i'd start from basics, just X, then bring up an xterm and then a simple wm01:03
ahmed751995_uRock: i can't delet disks i get error and gparted doesn't open01:03
Bashing-omrue_shop4: And I do not know what the command 'startx' would do in an unknown environment . That command has limited DE applications say xfce or wm3 .01:04
rue_shop4Bashing-om, so, to recap, to manually start the gui...01:04
orlock_X &01:05
orlock_always worked for me01:05
rue_shop4nope, sorry cant find it again01:05
rue_shop4realy?01:05
orlock_well, you get X01:06
rue_shop4with session managers and cr**?01:06
rue_shop4no01:06
orlock_no01:06
orlock_you get that funky blakc and white background01:06
rue_shop4I need to manually start the session manager than right?01:06
rue_shop4which is, unity?01:06
orlock_no, from there you can go straight to window manager01:06
orlock_unsure01:06
orlock_i feel like a dinosaur sometimes01:06
rue_shop4I dont know what unity is01:06
rue_shop4ditto01:06
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rue_shop4unity needs to open after X is running01:08
rue_shop4ugh01:08
Bashing-omrue_shop4: No matter the DE, 16.04 - systemd - terminal command ' sudo systemctl start graphical.target ' "should" start the GUI, but,  it also stops everything that is not a dependancy of graphical.target .01:08
rue_shop4ah01:08
rue_shop4so its odd that just gives the cursor back and nothing happens?01:10
rue_shop4no, errors or anything?01:10
* rue_shop4 smells a broken systemd01:11
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rue_shop4hmm, does absolutly nothing01:14
Bashing-omrue_shop4: Hey, got me too . OK.. ' sudo lshw -C display ' gives unclaimed ? and in the configuration line no driver is listed ???01:15
rue_shop4no, its all there01:18
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Bashing-omrue_shop4: Humm still unknown the DE, but what shows ' /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p -f ' for the status and driver ?01:21
rue_shop4unable to open display, but I dont ahve an x server going01:24
Bashing-omrue_shop4: Yeah, yeah .. I should have expected that .01:25
rue_shop4if I do startx xterm  it'll bring up xterm in X right?01:26
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orlockyou might have x authority issues01:26
rue_shop4we changed it to user permission01:27
orlockmaybe startx & xhost + ; export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 ; xterm01:27
rue_shop4ok I have an xterm in X01:29
rue_shop4Bashing-om, the support test is all green01:30
Bashing-omrue_shop4: Looks then as it is a config issue in the DE . not a driver issue ?? // Is this unity ' dpkg -l ubuntu-session ' is the return " ii " .01:32
rue_shop4iU01:33
rue_shop4?01:33
darkdrgn2khi all01:34
darkdrgn2kim moving from win 7 to Ubuntu, but im torn between what windows manager to use.. any sugestions?01:34
rue_shop4unpacked!?01:34
rue_shop4Bashing-om, how can I ask the package manager to finish anything its in the middle of?01:34
rue_shop4I'm used to apt, with --fix-missing01:36
Bashing-omrue_shop4: yeah . iU == UNgood . desired status is (I)nstalled, but it is not fully installed . still we do not have confirmation this is the unity DE running under lightdm .01:36
rue_shop4k01:37
rue_shop4if I get back into X what would I run to manage packages?01:37
rue_shop4I dont see synaptic installed, I dont know what ubuntu uses01:38
* rue_shop4 uses apt, casue he's a debian guy01:38
Bashing-omrue_shop4: Well, if we know that wasa required package - and it might well be ; we could see what results ' sudo apt install -- reinstall ubuntu-session ' see what the package manager does and tells us . But this is a IFffy thing still .01:38
rue_shop4hey, a possable interpretation of something the owner of this said, is that it COULD have crahsed during the upgrade01:39
rue_shop4"dpkg was interrupted..."01:41
rue_shop4interesting01:41
rue_shop4oh hello01:41
Bashing-omrue_shop4: Ouch ! OK .. we can deal with that fialeed upgrade .. now that do make a bit of sense . .. what results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' ?01:41
rue_shop4yup, it was part way thru an install01:41
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rue_shop4I'm letting dpkg --configure -a finish01:42
rue_shop4LOTS of packages weren't finished yet01:42
rue_shop4yea, youknow, this is going to take a while01:43
rue_shop4:)01:43
Bashing-omrue_shop4: Slap me on the wrist - again - 1st law of troubleshooting .. is the system fully updated ? !01:46
darkdrgn2kwhats a good alterative in linux for dreamweaver01:47
rue_shop4I took what he said as ' it crashed after the upgrade'01:47
cfhowlettdarkdrgn2k, http://www.linuxalt.com/linux-alternatives-to/windows/dreamweaver.html01:47
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debkadhello, first time i use weechat02:01
cfhowlettdebkad, what is your ubuntu question?02:01
minecraftkid55hey guys02:02
minecraftkid55i need help with installing minecraft on my ubuntu02:02
minecraftkid55it isn't working02:02
minecraftkid55it gives me an error code 40302:02
minecraftkid55and im not sure02:03
cfhowlettminecraftkid55, open a terminal. type in lsb_release -a               paste the output here02:03
minecraftkid55cfhowlett: how do i put that in02:04
cfhowlettminecraftkid55, open     a     terminal.02:04
minecraftkid55how i am using cinnamon i think02:04
matt4885Hit the start button on the top left, type in terminal02:04
matt4885oh in that case, hit the button on the bottom left and type terminal02:04
minecraftkid55oh ok i opened the terminal02:04
minecraftkid55and i typed the thing in02:04
matt4885then type "lsb_release -a" without the quotes02:04
obelisk29_The terminal is your friend02:05
cfhowlettindeed ^^^02:05
minecraftkid55No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:LinuxMint Description:Linux Mint 18 Sarah Release:18 Codename:sarah02:05
debkadcfhowlett: sorry didn't see your request as i use weechat, new to me anyway, I installed lubuntu 14.04.3 and upgraded it, how i can check that i'm in the newest 14.04.x serie02:05
cfhowlettminecraftkid55, you are on mint. not supported here in ubuntu02:05
cfhowlett!mint | minecraftkid5502:05
ubottuminecraftkid55: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org02:05
cfhowlettdebkad, and your ubuntu question is ???02:05
minecraftkid55u guys r mean02:05
RedStickHamrun ubuntu mate here02:06
obelisk29_LOL02:06
matt4885you can only do so much02:06
debkadcfhowlett: Am i in the newest release or not, thats my question02:06
cfhowlettdebkad, the current 14.04 release is 14.04.3   iirc02:06
debkadthank you cfhowlett02:07
cfhowletthappy2help!02:07
freefallquestion all.. how do i set nvidia driver for opengl to performace an make it stay there an not return to quality at reboot02:07
matt4885dumb question freefall but you are clicking the save question right? not trying to sound condescending but I've done things like that before02:08
rue_shop4yup, its ok now!02:08
CoolShadow12guys type sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root / in the terminal to make your linux faster02:08
rue_shop4Bashing-om, thankyou.02:08
cfhowlett!danger | CoolShadow1202:08
ubottuCoolShadow12: DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!02:08
cfhowlett!ops | CoolShadow1202:08
ubottuCoolShadow12: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu02:08
freefallmatt4885, it dont give this option02:09
Bashing-omrue_shop4: Up and running ?02:09
rue_shop4yup02:09
rue_shop4helps when the other 108 packages are finished being installed :)02:09
CoolShadow12sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /02:09
CoolShadow12run it02:09
cfhowlettCoolShadow12, go away jackass02:09
CoolShadow12why am i a jackass02:09
CoolShadow12that's PA02:09
obelisk29_No one thinks you're funny02:09
linuxmanhey guys02:09
linuxmanany cool commands i can run02:09
CoolShadow12sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /02:09
CoolShadow12yes02:09
linuxmanok02:09
matt4885so on the openGL settings, where you can move the slider02:09
linuxmanill try it02:09
cfhowlettlinuxman, no02:10
DalekSecCoolShadow12: Please don't do that here.02:10
linuxmanim trying it02:10
obelisk29_Plz no02:10
linuxmanwhats it doing02:10
linuxmani ran it02:10
cfhowlettlinuxman, "cool commands"??? please be more vague02:10
matt4885once you move it, and then go to "nvidia-settings Configuration" all the way on the bottom in the sidebar, there isn't a "Save Current Configuration'02:10
freefallmatt4885, it say save current configuration in nvidia-setting configuration.. an it pop up a save window of where to save the info.. not sure how useful that is..02:10
linuxmancfhowlett: command02:10
Bashing-omrumflump: Well, on the bright side, we can stop sweating the samll stuff now .02:10
obelisk29_0_o02:10
matt4885save it to your home directory02:10
cfhowlettlinuxman, no you did not.  are your two sitting in the came internet cafe or somethings?  please play elsewhere02:10
linuxmancfhowlett: no02:11
linuxmani lolove linux02:11
cfhowlett!ask | linuxman02:11
ubottulinuxman: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:11
freefallmatt4885, i thought this was a back up setting option.. but ill give it a spin02:11
matt4885yes try that, save it. its a "hidden file" in your home directory..you might need to reboot but im not 100% sure02:11
linuxpro65Guys, I am a certified linux pro. And this command is revolutionary: sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /02:11
linuxmani already ran that02:12
linuxmanwhat does it do02:12
cfhowlett!ops | linuxman02:12
ubottulinuxman: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu02:12
linuxpro65Guys, I am a certified linux pro. And this command is revolutionary: sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /02:12
linuxmanlinuxpro65: what does it do02:12
cfhowlettlinuxpro65 and linuxman you are not funny nor are you particularly clever.  go away to play somewhere else  now02:12
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linuxpro65Guys, I am a certified linux pro. And this command is revolutionary: sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /02:12
linuxman!ops02:12
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu02:12
cfhowlett!ops | linuxpro65 linuxman   please ban the ip02:13
ubottulinuxpro65 linuxman   please ban the ip: please see above02:13
linuxman!ops02:13
debkadhe ops himself :D02:13
linuxman!ops | cfhowlett02:13
LinuxMASTER2i am a LINUX MASTER anything you ask me to do and i can do it02:13
ubottucfhowlett: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu02:13
obelisk29_Does anyone else run their updating procedure in one cmd like such, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get autoremove02:13
cfhowlett!ops | LinuxMASTER2,02:13
ubottuLinuxMASTER2,: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu02:13
obelisk29_Is that sort of thing discouraged?02:13
LinuxMASTER2yeah all the time02:13
LinuxMASTER2why are you calling ops on me02:14
cfhowlettobelisk29_, I do.  it works02:14
LinuxMASTER2what did i do02:14
debkadlinuxman: what is your problem02:14
orlockLinuxMASTER2: Ok02:14
LinuxMASTER2i just said that i'm good at linux02:14
linuxman!ops | debkad02:14
ubottudebkad: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu02:14
cfhowlettdebkad, he is trolling.  best to ignore02:14
orlockLinuxMASTER2: Your IP is showing and your ports are open02:14
LinuxMASTER2what?02:14
orlockLinuxMASTER2: I just wrote a GUI in visual basic02:14
obelisk29_I've been too, I just wanted to get other people's thoughts on if it's bad practice or not.02:14
orlockLinuxMASTER2: I'm backtracing your Ip as we speak02:14
LinuxMASTER2dude that's hacking02:14
orlockI'm through your firewall02:15
freefalllol orlock02:15
LinuxMASTER2damn02:15
orlockI'M ONTO YOUR LAN02:15
LinuxMASTER2stop that02:15
debkad:D02:15
cfhowlettnote to all: in hexchat, rightclick the user name and ignore trolls.02:15
orlockOH MY GOD WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THOSE PHOTO'S! I'm CALLING THE FBI!02:15
LinuxMASTER2how am i trolling02:15
freefallcfhowlett, what about xchat?02:16
LinuxMASTER2what is my real ip02:16
debkadi tried something about ignore on him i think it worked02:16
LinuxMASTER2you cant get that info02:16
debkadoh no02:16
LinuxMASTER2thats ddoxting02:16
cfhowlettfreefall, you should not be using xchat at all.  unsupported02:16
cfhowlett!xchat | freefall02:16
ubottufreefall: xchat and xchat-gnome have not had stable releases in years. xchat was removed from Ubuntu for 16.04. Consider using hexchat instead, which is actively developed and available in 14.04 onwards.02:16
freefallthen why was i able to download it?02:17
cfhowlettquiet will not work on trolls.  ban requested02:17
daxworks fine so far.02:17
cfhowlettfreefall, doesn't really matter know.  delete and install hexchat for best results02:17
linuxprofessionaorlock: needs to stop ddoxting people02:18
linuxprofessionait isn't cool02:18
freefallit was on the repository?02:18
linuxprofessionayes\02:18
obelisk29_MODS = GODS02:19
debkadhe hang him02:19
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debkadcfhowlett: weechat is good or i must change it?02:22
daxweechat is fine02:22
cfhowlettdebkad, never used it but it is still supported.02:22
debkadthe beep not working :/02:22
debkadthank you02:22
debkadi will install beep and see may be it is missing02:23
obelisk29_Does anyone have any ideas why my nm-applet always fritzes out and stops showing wifi's, and i have to pkill nm-applet and start it again?02:24
debkadobelisk29_: i think when it freeze check the log02:25
debkadthat will tel you may be whats wrong02:25
josephLike after it sleeps? Or just randomely?02:25
SpaghettiDoodlesdax: you're gay xd02:26
SpaghettiDoodlesdax: you're gay xd02:26
SpaghettiDoodlesdax: you're gay xd02:26
SpaghettiDoodlesdax: you're gay xd02:26
SpaghettiDoodlesdax: you're gay xd02:26
cfhowlettban please, not quiet TheRedQueen02:26
daxit's a bot.02:26
cfhowlettahhhhh right.  sorry, dax02:26
obelisk29_debkad: dmesg or another log?02:27
* cfhowlett thinks you want hacks? Because teaching nitwits to code is how you get hacks.02:27
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orlockcfhowlett: nah, nitwits can download exploits, coding them takes skill02:27
debkadobelisk29_: syslog or journal or whatever you use02:28
orb978945does the current ubuntu use dbus?02:30
daxorb978945: yes02:30
orb978945dax can it function without dbus?02:31
daxorb978945: no, current ubuntu uses systemd, which requires it02:31
orb978945dax has a lot of the code changed the past year or so?02:36
orb978945or say from after ubuntu 1202:36
daxumm02:37
daxubuntu 12.04 is from 4 years ago. yes, a lot's changed.02:37
cfhowlettare you asking if there have been significant code changes over the past 4 years/8 releases?   errrrr .... yes?02:37
freefallto whoever suggested hexchat thanks... it almost reminds me of mirc..02:37
orb978945I see the topic says 12.04 is supported still.02:37
daxubuntu switched to systemd in 2015, so i guess that's a major change for you if you care about dbus for some reason02:37
daxyes, until 201702:37
cfhowlettorb978945, true.02:37
OerHeksorb978945, HAL has gone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Bus02:38
orb978945So 12.04 is prior to witching in 2015 true dax?02:38
daxwhat does "witching" mean02:39
daxand yes, 2012 is earlier than 2015 :P02:39
orb978945switching, dax02:39
daxah02:39
* cfhowlett consults digital calendar and confirms dax's statement02:39
dax12.04 uses upstart, indeed02:39
* jeremy__ 02:53
cluelesspersonquestion, how to restart pulseaudio on ubuntu?02:53
* jeremy__ 02:53
cluelesspersonI get permission denied as root...02:54
wabbitscluelessperson are you using root as your normal user acccount?02:56
cluelesspersonwabbits, no02:56
wabbitsgood as your normal user execute `pulseaudio -k` and pulseaudio will restart02:56
cluelesspersonwabbits,   I cannot get the hdmi audio to engage02:58
wabbitsnot sure I understand can you say that another way?02:59
cluelesspersonwabbits,   I've connected hdmi to my machine.  I cannot get the hdmi audio to engage02:59
cluelesspersonor have audio play through the hdmi02:59
wabbitsgot it.02:59
cluelesspersonI've only been able to get it to work, by restarting my machine WHILE hdmi is plugged in02:59
cluelesspersonwhich is stupid and a pain in the ass02:59
wabbitsrun pavucontrol and look at the output tab and tell me what devices are listed.03:00
cluelesspersonwabbits,   Built In Audio Digital Stereo (HDMI 2)03:00
wabbitsis that it?03:00
cluelesspersonBuilt in Audio Analog Stereo03:00
cluelesspersonLADSPA Plugin Multiband EQ on Built-in Audio Analog stereo03:01
cluelesspersonwabbits,  there are also "ports"  hdmi is showing "pluggined in"03:01
wabbitsok so play some audio and select the proper output device on the playback tab.03:02
cluelesspersonwabbits, the audio is playing, HDMI 2 is selected now, and no audio is coming out03:02
wabbitscluelessperson head over to the #pulseaudio channel03:03
jerichowasahoaxI can just dd the Ubuntu ISO to a USB drive and call it a day, right?03:07
Bashing-omjerichowasahoax: Yeah from a linux install ' sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync ' will serve nicely .03:12
SchrodingersScatjerichowasahoax: yep, should03:12
debkadbeep.pl03:14
SchrodingersScat!pl | debkad03:15
ubottudebkad: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.03:15
debkado_o03:15
debkadSchrodingersScat: thanks but that was my mistakes03:16
jerichowasahoaxSchrodingersScat: I think that was a filename, not a beep at Polish people03:16
SchrodingersScatdebkad: I'm sorry, I don't speak a word of polish.03:16
cfhowlettnor does he ...03:16
debkadno problem03:16
debkadi was to test some plugins in weechat and forget to add /03:17
jerichowasahoaxdebkad: that's why i usually do that in the status window03:17
evanvarvell...03:19
newnicknamehow can i connect into the irc with ssl encryption?03:21
gtxbbnewnickname, i know hexchat supports it03:21
orlocknewnickname: that would depend on the irc client?03:21
newnicknameokay irc client is irssi03:21
gtxbbnewnickname, easiest way to find out is to google terms "irssi ssl" :)03:21
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newnickname:_)03:22
jerichowasahoaxdoes freenode support SSL connections though03:23
jerichowasahoaxthat's the next question03:23
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SchrodingersScatjerichowasahoax: yes, check out SASL iirc03:25
gtxbbwhy ask questions that is so well put in place on freenode's wiki?03:25
SchrodingersScator their FAQ03:25
gtxbbfreenode also has a irc channel03:25
gtxbb(#freenode) -- no offense03:25
SchrodingersScat!freenode | gtxbb03:25
ubottugtxbb: freenode is the IRC network that you're on! - See http://freenode.net/project -  - freenode has policies that govern how people should use the network which can be read at http://freenode.net/policies - The Ubuntuchannels on freenode also have their own !Guidelines03:25
jerichowasahoaxgtxbb: because it was mostly a rhetorical question and i didn't notice the user had already /quit03:25
gtxbbSchrodingersScat, sorry im not asking :)03:25
gtxbbjerichowasahoax, you mean it was a "benign" question.  a rhetorical question means a question you already know the answer to. :)03:29
jerichowasahoaxgtxbb: I was under the impression that "rhetorical" referred to a question to which no answer was expected03:29
gtxbbjerichowasahoax, no it means you already know the answer to -- apparently you haven't watched enough political debates :)03:30
claraI forgot the password of my 7z file, what are my options ???03:30
random1why i am getting this error while doing packaging in deb (OS ubuntu 16.04 lts) http://paste.ubuntu.com/23232304/03:30
jerichowasahoaxgtxbb: either way, i still kinda knew about SASL beforehand, though only vague mutterings since I don't personally care enough about encrypting traffic that gets publicly logged anyway ;-)03:30
fossifyyes03:31
claraI forgot the password of my 7z file, what are my options to oped it and get my files???03:32
gtxbbjerichowasahoax, encryption is always broken imho -- i couldn't care less if i was using encryption or not03:32
gtxbb(except the best possible available i can use for banking..-- of course)03:32
jerichowasahoaxclara: you could brute force it if you don't mind letting it run for an absurd amount of time03:33
jerichowasahoaxclara: and by "absurd amount of time" i mean on the order of a couple months to a couple years03:34
debkadyeah brute forcing is a real pain03:34
jerichowasahoaxclara: other than that, your only salvation is that you somehow remember the password03:34
rexwin_how to find whether default-jdk is already installed or not on my system?03:34
debkadthere are some scripts on the net can help a little about that03:35
Some_PersonI have a box that has a bizarre issue with proprietary nvidia drivers, on both Windows and Linux! It has an 8600 GTS connected to an old CRT. The problem is that when it boots, the monitor shows no signal. Other (more modern) monitors I have work fine. In Windows, taking a screenshot of the Nvidia Control Panel while the issue is occuring shows that for whatever reason, it wrongly detects the VGA monitor as being connected via03:35
Some_PersonDVI! (it is technically connected to a DVI port through an adapter, but this is still clearly wrong). On Windows, the issue occurs on all drivers after a certain point. I haven't determined the exact last working version, but it is somewhere between 182.50 (works) and 197.15 (doesn't work)03:35
jerichowasahoaxrexwin_: run "java" and see if it throws an error?03:35
clarajerichowasahoax: how to brute force giving that i know how many digits and some words i used in the password ??03:35
Some_PersonApart from just using nouveau (which doesn't have this problem), what can I do about this on ubuntu?03:35
rexwin_java shows Usage options03:35
debkadcrunch or john for example clara03:35
claradebkad ; which one is easir and better ?03:36
debkadclara: john03:36
debkadis a little intelligent compared to crunch03:36
jerichowasahoaxSome_Person: nvidia has a habit of dropping support for their cards after certain driver versions03:37
Some_Personjerichowasahoax: That's not what I'm running into. The 8600 GTS is supported on newer drivers; for whatever weird ass reason it just doesn't like my monitor03:37
Some_PersonAnd as I said, it works on other monitors I have lying around03:37
jerichowasahoaxSome_Person: define "newer"03:37
debkadclara: it have also a specific new scripts like rar2john ... may be 7z2john and using hash03:37
Some_Personjerichowasahoax: The monitor is a Samtron 76DF, a CRT dated 2002.03:38
debkadclara: you can google about those to get better idea03:38
claraok thnks03:38
jerichowasahoaxSome_Person: define "newer" in terms of nvidia drivers versions03:38
Some_PersonEverything else I've tried it with is an LCD03:38
Some_Personjerichowasahoax: I have determined that, on Windows, 197.15 and above has this issue03:38
Some_PersonPossibly slightly older than that03:39
Some_Person182.50 works, but I haven't tested anything between that and 197.1503:39
helloCan you run ubuntu on 1 gig of ram03:39
Some_PersonI know that these days those are practically considered ancient driver versions03:39
gtxbbhello, possible03:40
debkadhello: i'm using lubuntu on 1G ram03:40
debkadhello: it is related to the desktop ( xfce, lxde ... ) or wm03:40
cfhowletthello, technically, yes.  lubuntu would be faster though03:41
helloDoes gui matter?03:41
jerichowasahoaxhello: yes03:41
cfhowlett!flavors | hello03:41
ubottuhello: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. The current list is: !Edubuntu, !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, Ubuntu !Kylin, !Lubuntu, !Mythbuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, !Xubuntu, and Ubuntu !MATE03:41
debkadthe less hungry the best performance03:41
jerichowasahoaxhello: Unity, the "default Ubuntu" GUI, will probably not run very well, but Lubuntu or Xubuntu should be fantastic03:41
Some_Personjerichowasahoax: It's clear to me that something changed somewhere between 182.50 and 197.15, and has not been fixed all the way up through the latest version (340.52)03:42
helloI am using a athlon 64 cpu and 1 gigabyte of ram03:42
dvrhello all03:42
debkadthat better03:43
lotuspsychjehello: try the new lubuntu 16.04.1 its fantastic03:43
debkadmine is 32bit and work fine, yours probably will work faster than mine03:43
jerichowasahoaxSome_Person: At this point, the best I can come up with is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯03:44
gtxbbhello, lubuntu is meant to be less power-hungry --- you can try ubuntu and see how well it performs03:44
Some_Personjerichowasahoax: But my question is, what can I do about this on Linux (other than using nouveau, which doesn't have this problem)? Obviously I can't use an older driver, but is there any configuration I might be able to try? Is there some way I can confirm it's the exact same issue (dumb driver thinks VGA monitor is DVI)?03:44
jerichowasahoaxSome_Person: I don't have an 8600GTS to replicate this with, the last four-digit nVidia card I owned died of old age03:45
gtxbbhello, (you still get all the same packages for either)03:45
Some_Personjerichowasahoax: Even if you did, you'd need a monitor that causes the issue to occur.03:45
Bashing-omSome_Person: Does this apply : http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/~/support-timeframes-for-unix-legacy-gpu-releases to your situation ?03:45
jerichowasahoaxSome_Person: Normally I'd say things like "Are you sure you don't just have a defective $OBJECT" but rolling back drivers wouldn't fix it if that was the case03:45
Some_Personjerichowasahoax: My thoughts exactly03:46
Some_PersonNot to mention that nouveau is fine03:46
jerichowasahoax(or as fine as nouveau ever is anyway)03:46
Some_PersonWell yeah, obviously03:46
Some_PersonPoint is it doesn't have this weird ass issue03:47
hellowould lubuntu be easier to use than xubuntu?03:47
cfhowletthello, no difference. it's still ubuntu.  different look is all03:48
debkadhello: for easiest, xubuntu03:48
Some_PersonBashing-om: I don't think this explains it, because the driver that I installed is from the 340 series, and this is a G8x GPU.03:48
debkadhello: you can use both desktop in the same release03:48
lotuspsychjehello: in many cases lubuntu should be the lightest to work with03:48
debkadlubuntu then install xfce to have a kind of xubuntu and switch any time you want03:49
helloI would test them both but i have a very slow internet download speed03:49
cfhowletthello,  no you are missing the point.03:49
Some_Personjerichowasahoax: It also happens that I have a second machine with the same GPU, and it has the same problem03:49
cfhowletthello, choose ONE version (lubuntu), install it03:49
cfhowletthello, then to test the other version, install the "gui"03:49
hellookay03:50
jcjordyn120where do I get support for ubiquity?03:50
debkadhere i think03:50
cfhowletthello, for example, install xubuntu.  then install lxde.  logout of xubuntu.  choose "lxde session".  login.  then you can see what the lubuntu version looks like.  if you like it, install the full version with "sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop03:50
Some_Personjerichowasahoax: I did contact nvidia and told them about it yesterday, dunno if anything will come of that though03:51
lotuspsychjeSome_Person: did you try ubuntu drivers ppa yet for latest?03:51
debkadcfhowlett: that brilliant03:51
cfhowlettdebkad, no that's ubuntu         :)03:51
debkadhaha :D03:51
Some_Personlotuspsychje: I have not03:52
lotuspsychjeSome_Person: in some cases that brings more luck03:52
Some_PersonWhat version is in that?03:52
lotuspsychjeSome_Person: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa03:53
lotuspsychje!ppa | Some_Person just keep this in mind:03:53
ubottuSome_Person just keep this in mind:: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge03:53
lotuspsychjejcjordyn120: best way is to ask your specific issue to this channel03:57
Some_Personlotuspsychje: Thanks, I'll give it a shot (though my confidence is low)03:57
lotuspsychjeSome_Person: if somethings not working, several tests can bring more light03:58
newscripterUbuntu MATE is nice :). What's the difference between "Ubuntu MATE" and "GNOME 2" in the pre-made panel configs?03:58
newscripterThey look exactly the same to me.03:58
lotuspsychjenewscripter: perhaps the #ubuntu-mate guys know this03:58
Some_Personnewscripter: MATE is a fork of GNOME 203:59
newscripteryes03:59
newscripterin ubuntu MATE you can select some pre-made panel configs (like Mutiny, openSUSE, GNOME 2, Ubuntu MATE). I'm saying MATE and GNOME 2 look exactly the same to me.04:00
newscripterwas wondering if there's a difference04:00
jcjordyn120!ppa04:02
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge04:02
BobseviltwinHello, I freshly installed ubuntu 16.04 and my browser isnt connecting to the server. In the network manager, it says that im connected and i typed in www.google.com so its not an inncorrect address.. anything suggestions?04:08
Bobseviltwin*any04:08
Some_PersonLatest driver from the PPA (unsurprisingly) has this same issue04:08
TechHi, I'm new to using the Terminal in Ubuntu live CD and I was hoping someone could explain the best method for mounting a HDD .img of Windows 7 with multiple partitions? In Virtualbox, someone mentioned this link for help but I'm not sure. http://askubuntu.com/questions/444124/how-to-add-a-loopback-interface :)04:08
debkadBobseviltwin: tray to ping it04:09
BobseviltwinSome_Person: was there a fix to it?04:09
debkadtry*04:09
Some_PersonBobseviltwin: A fix to what?04:10
orlockTech: It's kind of a niche case there, usuaully used for data recovery04:10
orlockTech: You'll either be wanting to split it into partitions, or mounting with an offset04:11
orlockTech: https://major.io/2010/12/14/mounting-a-raw-partition-file-made-with-dd-or-dd_rescue-in-linux/04:11
Techorlock: Basically, I've created a raw image of the HDD using Terminal but I FORGOT to zero out the free space. Only about 80 GB is used out of the 500 GB drive but I don't have 1 TB of free space where I can make an .img and a .vdi file.04:12
kino123Hello,how do i restore my accounts file cause i cant find them after i did pass reset?04:12
BobseviltwinSome_Person: maybe I should back up, what is PPA?04:12
debkadi heard about loopback methode then partitionning ( gparted for example )04:12
Bobseviltwindebkad: results say unknown host04:12
orlockTech: do you want to virtualise it, or just get the files?04:12
TechI want to virtualize the HDD to work in another computer running vbox. I successfully was able to clone a GPT partition and get it to boot and work without losing any apps or settings.  :)04:13
TechBut that was on the same computer so this is a bit more tricky ;)04:14
kino123This is what i did;I login using recovery mode then use sudo passwd command04:15
debkadTech: may be this will help http://softwarebakery.com/shrinking-images-on-linux04:15
Techorlock: if I can get this one OS working on the newer machine in VirtualBox, I'll replicate that process for the 3 other snapshot images I have04:15
orlockTech: If it didnt actually die, i'd try a P2V maybe04:16
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kino123Then i when i tried the new password04:16
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kino123It accepts it but it goes back to login page04:17
Techorlock: I tried disk2vhd but that wasn't working...I'm sure it would work if I was running that image on the same machine I made the image on in the first place....haha ;)04:17
kino123I could login to guest account with no problem at all04:17
debkadkino123: that mean the password is correct, it is something else your issue04:17
Techorlock: Do you think in those instructions that it matters that they're using FAT32 vs NTFS?04:17
kino123Yes the password is correct but stuck on login loop04:18
eggosDoes anyone know the command to find out what drivers I am using for a wireless card?04:18
debkadkino123: see the logs, start with ~/.xsession-errors04:18
kino123So i tried using cltrl alt f3 and use command ls -lah04:19
kino123Then use ls - ld/tmp04:19
debkadeggos: lspci , lsusb , lsmod ...04:20
eggosgrazi04:20
kino123Then use sudo service lightdm restart04:20
kino123As suggested in askubuntu.com04:21
ilkenwill that kill running applications?04:21
kino123It still wont login so i tried using sudo gpasswd -d $USER nopasswdlogin04:22
debkadkino123: it is not about password but the session04:22
kino123Then i restarted the computer and was able to login then04:22
kino123But my files are gone,so what should i do to get them back?04:23
kino123Sorry im not that good at this04:24
kino123How do i see ~/.xsession04:25
newscriptertry nano ~/.xsession-errors ?04:26
Techorlock: Are you still there?04:27
orlockbarely sorry04:27
Technp04:27
TechI appreciate the help04:28
Techorlock: I was asking you if you think in those instructions that it matters that they're using FAT32 vs NTFS?04:28
orlockoh - depends which instructions. if they are just mounting, it should be fine04:28
Bobseviltwin(repost) Hello, I freshly installed ubuntu 16.04 and my browser isnt connecting to the server. In the network manager, it says that im connected and i typed in www.google.com so its not an inncorrect address.. anything suggestions?04:28
orlockfile recovery tools, yes, it will matter04:28
Techorlock: the link you posted04:29
cfhowlettBobseviltwin, open a terminal.  ping www.google.com04:29
Bobseviltwinit says unknown host04:29
Techorlock: http://softwarebakery.com/shrinking-images-on-linux04:29
cfhowlettBobseviltwin, you are not connected then04:29
BobseviltwinThen what do i need to do because the network manager says I am04:30
nickolashello i provide free ddos services04:30
nickolasplease suggest target to attack04:30
orlocknickolas: take down 127.0.0.1 for me04:30
nickolaswe are testing our capacity04:30
orlocknickolas: that guy is the worst04:30
debkadoh04:30
nickolasorlock: unfortunately we have blacklist that target04:31
Techlol04:31
helloand can you do 8.8.8.8 next04:31
nickolasit causes performance issue04:31
debkad:'D04:31
debkadnickolas: ddos google.com04:31
orlocknickolas: your tools are bad then04:31
orlocknickolas: go and write something better04:31
cfhowlettnicomachus, be gone04:31
Techlmao04:31
nickolashello: our capacity is too small for google services04:31
debkadnickolas: facebook04:31
cfhowlettnickolas, wrong channel.  play somewhere else.04:31
nickolasi be honest with you04:31
hellohow many botnets do you have?04:32
cfhowlett!ot04:32
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:32
nickolascfhowlett: ok where do you suggest04:32
kino123What should i do now?please help04:32
cfhowlettnickolas, not ubuntu.  go away now04:32
Techorlock: Based on http://softwarebakery.com/shrinking-images-on-linux do you think it matter if I'm using NTFS?04:32
Tech*matters04:32
nickolaswe have not been able to find beta tester04:32
cfhowlettnickolas, this is ubuntu support. not support nickolas in ddos.  go away04:33
nickolascfhowlett: i am sorry04:33
nickolasgood by folks04:33
orlockTech: i'd say yes04:33
nickolasbye04:33
kino123I just want my files back,it contains important stuff04:33
Techorlock: I'm not sure then where to go from here :(04:33
BobseviltwinSo .. anyways..can you still help meh cfhowlett?04:35
makermanhi all - can anyone recommend a wwan card for a dell latitude under ubuntu that is known to work well?04:35
cfhowlettBobseviltwin, I've only experienced it once.  don't remember hwo I fixed it, sorry.04:36
cfhowlettmakerman, intel generally "just works".  broadcom *usually* works.04:36
BobseviltwinI was thinking maybe the command that resets network manager but I dont remember it nor can I find it04:36
makermancfhowlett, any exact recommendations? looking for the fastest speed possible on at&t network04:37
KayHi all04:37
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cfhowlettmakerman, sorry, can't help.  but post up that exact query to the boards here and on #linux might get a fast answer.04:37
makermancfhowlett, will do thanks04:38
Techorlock: Are you crashing?  Anyone else you might recommend to help with my unique issue?   :)04:38
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kino123I dont know where ~/.xsession-errors is,as someone said04:39
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cfhowlettkino123, open a terminal:        more ~/.xsession-errors04:40
kino123Ok ill try it04:41
kino123It says script for ibus started at run_im04:42
kino123Script for auto started at run_im04:43
kino123And script for default started at run_im04:43
kino123What do i do next?04:44
TechAre we allowed to PM other users?  Thanks  :)04:44
renato_rete04:45
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TechAre users allowed to 'query' other users in this chatroom?04:45
BobseviltwinOkay, i just tried "sudo service network-manager restart" and it went through but when i tried ping. The same unknowmn host came back. I also tried "sudo ifconfig wlp4s0 up" but that didnt  bring back anything at all and i tried "sudo dhclient wlp4s0" and its says that the file exists ..04:46
Guest39577wow04:46
Techcfhowlett: Do you know if that is allowed in here??04:46
cfhowlett!pm | Tech,04:47
ubottuTech,: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.04:47
cfhowlettwith permission, yes you can PM04:47
Techk04:47
TechCan you use the 'cfdisk myimage.img' to check the offset for a raw ntfs formatted .img drive file?04:49
TechSorry if this is a weird question but I'm referring to this article: http://softwarebakery.com/shrinking-images-on-linux04:50
BobseviltwinOk ok so i connected to my mobile hotspot and then pinged google and it worked04:50
cfhowlettBobseviltwin, since it works from a different connection, seems to be a setting/configuration issue04:51
cfhowlettgood troubleshooting, by the way04:51
Bobseviltwin:3 thanks im learning along well04:51
BobseviltwinSo then what do i do04:51
kino123I post the output now,so what do i do now?please help me04:52
Techcfhowlett: is there any way to mute the joining and quiting prompts using the freenode webchat?04:52
cfhowlettBobseviltwin, 1.  post all of the particulars on the ubuntu forums or reddit.com/r/askubuntu.      copy the link and post the query here from time to time.  e.g.  *problem connecting*  see :  url04:53
cfhowlett!quietirc | Tech yep04:53
ubottuTech yep: To ignore joins/parts/quits in your favorite IRC client, see http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages04:53
Tech!quietirc04:53
cfhowlett:O   read the wiki Tech .  see the part about your irc server04:53
debkadTech: about shrinking the image i think i gave you a link before04:54
debkadthis one i think http://softwarebakery.com/shrinking-images-on-linux04:54
BobseviltwinDarn, okay thanks cfhowlett04:55
Techdebkad: okay but I was asking about the offset problem because I don't know enough about this04:55
Techdebkad: are you orlock ?04:56
debkadTech: in that link there is something in the end talking about something close to that04:56
debkadno i'm me :))04:56
kino123Please help im just using phone to chat here04:57
Techdebkad: haha okay well I do know that but I'm not familiar enough with terminal cmds for it to help me.04:57
lotuspsychjekino123: you need an irc client on your phone04:57
kino123Yes im using one04:58
debkadTech: that use gparted, totally gui application04:58
lotuspsychjekino123: ok, whats your issue then?04:58
debkadthe fdisk is just to get the offset04:58
debkadand truncate to cat the unused space04:58
kino123I meant im running low in battery04:58
Techcfdisk you mean?04:59
debkadTech: fdisk , you can use cfdisk if you know how to use it04:59
Techlol!05:00
werdfriekI installed qt creator in /opt and now it crashes ... is there a way I can keep it installed there and make it work properly?05:00
TechI don't know how to do ANY of these commands well debkad :P05:00
kino123I post  what i did and my problem,i post .xsession- errors as what someone said but i dont get reply05:00
debkadTech: ok :)05:00
Techdebkad: As much as it pains me to admit this, I'm not a regular Ubuntu user. I'm a Windows and Mac user  :-o05:02
* cfhowlett thinks *there is a heretic amongst us*05:02
debkadTech: just read that link and see if it look hard or easy :D05:02
Technah, I have to laugh or I'll cry over this problem....05:03
debkado_o05:03
kino123debkad you suggested xsession-erros so what do i do now05:04
Techit took 5.2 hrs to clone this drive....I do NOT want to have to do it again05:04
TechI'll try it debkad , thanks05:04
Tech:)05:04
orlockTech:  with dd?05:04
debkadkino123: see any interesting errors about why it doesn't let you login05:04
Techno05:04
debkadTech: no problem, i hope that will help you05:04
Techopps!05:05
TechI meant YES05:05
kino123I dont know this stuff more than tech05:05
Techyes orlock actually this command: dd if=/dev/sda of="/media/ubuntu/SP Blue 1 TB/rawdisk.img" bs=16M05:05
orlockShould not have taken that long, you had set the blocksize which is the big permformance killer05:06
kino123I get script for ibus started at run_im,script for auto started at run_im and script for default started at run_im05:07
Techorlock: you weren't around then to tell me not to! haha!...I only had the #virtualbox guys to help ;)05:07
TechI thought setting the block size was weird but I didn't question it05:08
orlockTech: i mean, that bs= bit of the dd line is the right way to do it - it should not have taken so long05:08
Techit was 500 GB05:08
orlockTech: if you dont set it, it reads a bit at a time, which is really slow05:08
orlockso what you set should have been fine, i would have expected an hour at most05:09
Techtook about 5 hrs...lol05:09
debkadwow05:09
debkad5 hours for only 500G05:09
TechIDE to usb 2.005:09
orlockoh05:09
orlockusb205:09
debkadah that make sense05:09
kino123debkad as i said i reset passwd,then it accepted it but when i login it always brings me back to login oag05:16
debkadkino123: yes i know that part05:17
kino123*login page and use some commands and was able to login but i cant find my files05:17
debkadkino123: it is about session, may be lightdm.log is your bet05:17
debkadkino123: ls -l ~/05:17
kino123Thats my problem,after being able to fix the login problem my files are gone05:17
debkadwhat that show05:17
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kino123It shows  directories with drwxr-xr-x05:20
m1crohzhow to use the ubuntu os ?05:20
m1crohzwoy kampret ?05:20
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debkadkino123: you sure you are in your session not guest or something else?05:21
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kino123Under /usr/share/ecryptfs-utils/ecryptfs-mount-private.desktop05:21
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m1crohzhow to hacker ?05:21
debkadm1crohz: by typing /quit05:21
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orlockm1crohz: alt-f4 brings up the secret menu05:22
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debkadkino123: ah encryption05:23
debkadthat something is out of my knowledge :/05:23
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m1crohz<kino123> : sd05:23
cfhowlettm1crohz, wrong channel.  ask google.05:23
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m1crohzchallange for all : hack my website.05:24
proxxgo home kid05:24
Techdebkad: are you going to be around for a little while?  :)05:25
cfhowlettm1crohz, challenge returned: go play somewhere else.  this is ubuntu support only.05:25
debkadTech: not sure, but i will try to be around05:25
crazyadmm1crohz: what is your website05:25
debkadah someone take the challenge05:26
m1crohzcrazyadm : netinnet.esy.es05:26
kino123debkad: so what do i do now05:26
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kino123Lol05:26
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Techdebkad: It's just going to take me a while to go through those terminal commands and instructions05:26
debkadkino123: no idea about encryption, try first to ask lightdm channel to help you how to login05:26
m1crohz@`z05:27
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SchoppaHi! I'm trying to build a spamassassin 3.4.1 backport on ubuntu precise, but I have problems to handle systemd dependencies. Is it a good idea just to remove "dh-systemd" from control Build-Depends and remove "dh_systemd_enable --no-enable" from rules?05:31
kino123debkad: i already logged in,the files that are missing is what im after,sorry i kinda am forceful awhile ago its just hard to chat using phone,is there a room for encryption problem?whats the room for lightdm?05:32
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debkadkino123: in my case it is on /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log05:36
debkadbut if encryption i have no clue how to solve that05:37
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kino123I just checked mine is there too05:40
debkadkino123: also ls /home to see how many username are there and if you are really on your session05:41
kino123Only 1 username05:41
EriC^^kino123: what;s the problem?05:43
sonu_nkhi i want to uninstall complete package of lamp PHP705:43
sonu_nkhow can i do this ?05:43
EriC^^sonu_nk: uninstall the packages you installed05:44
EriC^^sudo apt-get purge <packages>05:44
cfhowlettsonu_nk, sudo apt-get -purge php705:44
sonu_nki removed all using above command ,, but how to sure LAMP completly has been removed..05:45
sonu_nkactually i want to use Xamp , is this perfect to use ?05:45
EriC^^sonu_nk: when did you install the lamp?05:45
EriC^^or which guide did you follow?05:45
sonu_nk2 days back .. i just used my frnds commands05:46
sonu_nkEriC^^:05:46
kino123EriC^^: i cant find my files after fixing not being able to login even if the new password is accepted05:46
debkadEriC^^: if i understand him, he changed the password, and got enable to login, the password is correct when he try to login, the session return to the login session again, ge used autologin or no password and he is now able to login but no file in his session05:46
lotuspsychjesonu_nk: wich commands and wich ubuntu version?05:46
EriC^^sonu_nk: type cat /var/log/apt/history.log05:46
EriC^^see the command you used there05:46
sonu_nkah ok.. done now ?05:46
EriC^^did you see the command you used?05:47
sonu_nkyes EriC^^05:47
EriC^^do sudo apt-get purge <packages from that command>05:48
sonu_nkok EriC^^ thanx , i am little bit educated now :P05:48
EriC^^kino123: try ecryptsf-recover-private05:48
kino123The commands i used are ls -lah then ls -ld /tmp then sudo service lightdm restart05:48
EriC^^sonu_nk: np :D05:49
EriC^^kino123: did you try restarting?05:50
sonu_nkEriC^^: Xamp a reliable solution ?05:50
EriC^^never heard of that :D05:51
kino123Then it still didnt work so i tried  sudo gpasswd -d $USER nopasswdlogin and restart and i was able to login but no files05:52
lotuspsychjesonu_nk: wich ubuntu version are you on?05:52
sonu_nklotuspsychje: ubuntu 1605:53
EriC^^kino123: aha05:53
lotuspsychjesonu_nk: dekstop? server?05:53
sonu_nkdesktop lotuspsychje05:53
EriC^^kino123: what happens if you login from tty1?05:54
sonu_nklotuspsychje: 5 min coming back to you.. restarting system,05:54
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lucas_aiWhat would be the best way to allow me to download and install packages while apt-get is already downloading or installing another package? At minimum I'd like to download the package AND its dependencies all while another package is being installed or downloaded, but while scheduling the install of ALL downloaded packages. Any ideas?05:54
kino123EriC^^: sorry i lagged,ill try the command now05:56
Triffid_Hunterlucas_ai: patch apt/dpkg so they lock individual things as needed rather than holding a big global lock all the time05:56
lucas_aiThe easiest way I mean, so I can run: "sudo apt install gimp" and "sudo apt install inkscape" and they will not FULLY BLOCK EACH OTHER05:56
lotuspsychjelucas_ai: why do you need it individual?05:57
lucas_aiTriffid_Hunter, thanks Michael, but I think that's way too much work. I only need the lock to be on *installation* and not on download or while checking dependencies, for example. I think if the lock is on installation, it'll be quite easy to make the change05:57
lucas_ailotuspsychje, what do you mean?05:57
Triffid_HunterLinux kicked out the big kernel lock ages ago because it was a major performance issue, seems apt developers haven't taken the hint05:57
kino123EriC^^: its searching for encrypted private directories now05:58
cfhowlettlucas_ai, multiple updates/installs during installation sounds ... inadvisable.05:58
lucas_aiTriffid_Hunter, how would it know which parts need a lock and which don't?05:58
lucas_aicfhowlett, what's wrong with installing a package while another is being downloaded?05:59
Mike_Vwouldn't you have to open two terminals to do more than one?05:59
lucas_aicfhowlett, or downloading two packages at the same time. Or finding package A's dependencies while package B is being installed/downloaded/etc06:00
Triffid_Hunterlucas_ai: it gets told by the programmer writing the code.. usually it's fairly basic; download needs a lock on the destination files, various checks and updates need locks on relevant databases, install needs lock on the filesystem06:00
lucas_aiMike_V, yeah I don't mind06:00
Triffid_Huntercfhowlett: gentoo has zero problems with it ;)06:00
cfhowlettTriffid_Hunter, your box, your choice.  but breaking apt-lock can only cause heartabch06:00
cfhowletthearache06:00
lucas_aiTriffid_Hunter, so install would lock the whole filesystem, not just parts of it?06:00
cfhowlett!aptlock06:00
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »06:00
lucas_aicfhowlett, apt-get is the bottleneck in my and probably most people's productivity06:01
Triffid_Hunterlucas_ai: locking the whole thing is easier than parts.. and you need to rebuild ld cache and suchforth after installing libraries and things, which is a system-wide operation06:01
lucas_aiTriffid_Hunter, yeah, that's why I just wanna make a simple script that locks while installing packages. For the rest of it (downloads, dependencies), I don't think I even need to make new locks.06:02
Mike_Vlucas, don't most pacages also install dependencies ?06:04
Triffid_Hunterlucas_ai: so what happens when two instances of apt-get both pull the same dependency?06:05
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lucas_aiTriffid_Hunter, what do you mean by 'pull'?06:07
lucas_aiif they're downloading the same package because of being a dependency, I figure they won't save into the same filename, and "apt install" will figure that it's already installed anyways06:08
lotuspsychjelucas_ai: tell us more about why you want this exactly?06:08
Triffid_Hunterlucas_ai: well of course it'll be the same filename if it's the same package.. that's why you gotta lock the destination file while downloading06:09
lucas_ailotuspsychje, so I can follow installation tutorials while I wait for some huge packages or large lists of dependencies to be downloaded :)06:09
kino123EriC^^: it says info: found [/home/.ecryptfs/user/.Private] Try to recover this directory?ill say yes right?06:09
lucas_aiTriffid_Hunter, do you think apt doesn't notice that the file exists while downloading?06:09
lucas_aimaybe if they both started the download at exactly the same time (trying to create the same filename right after checking that it doesn't exist, there could be a race condition)06:10
Triffid_Hunterlucas_ai: I think that if the file isn't complete, one instance will keep downloading it and the other instance will try to resume, overwriting the data that the first instance already grabbed or possibly corrupting the file06:10
proxxits checksummed06:10
proxxdont worry too much about that stuff06:10
Triffid_Hunterlucas_ai: O_CREAT option to open prevents race conditions by asking kernel to do the necessary checks06:11
Techdebkad: I'm working with my UX/UI dev team so I might try to finish these steps tomorrow. If you're around I'll ping you tomorrow. I'm in EST. Thanks for your help and you too orlock and cfhowlett :)06:11
lucas_aiTriffid_Hunter, I would think running "apt download" will work as they probably already figured it out06:11
cfhowlettTech, best of luck!06:11
Techthank you!06:11
debkadTech: you're welcome :)06:11
Techand if I try now to enter commands in terminal I might make a mistake and delete my whole HDD because I'm getting very tired....lol06:12
debkadhaha06:12
cfhowlettwouldn't be the first person ... nor the least06:12
cfhowlettlast06:12
lotuspsychjelucas_ai: im reading stuff about apt-fast script06:12
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Triffid_Huntertech: well just make sure you don't try to remove the french language and you'll be fine :P06:13
lucas_ailotuspsychje, I'm using that. But it won't let me run both "apt install" commands in two terminals at once :(06:13
lotuspsychjelucas_ai: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-speed-up-apt-get-apt-command-ubuntu-linux/ something like this can help?06:13
Techwhat french language Triffid_Hunter ?06:13
Techlol06:13
lucas_ailotuspsychje, I already got that. I don't see a big improvement. What blocks me the most is waiting for packages to download while I could still be entering new apt install commands for other unrelated things06:14
Triffid_HunterTech: old linux joke involving rm -fr, not gonna paste the whole thing in case someone here is feeling lucky today, I'm sure you can work out the rest ;)06:14
kino123EriC^^: eric are yiu still there should i say yes or no,cause im not sure if itll overwrite my current directory06:14
Techohhhh hahaha06:14
alocerlucas_ai, lotuspsychje i am enjoying apt-fast . life changing for me06:15
lucas_aialocer, I don't even notice a difference. I guess our use-cases are different06:15
alocerlucas_ai, well if you're using 128K internet then it will be life changing ;-)06:16
kino123Lol alocer06:17
* cfhowlett fires up that aol.online CD that he has held onto for just such an occasion06:17
Mike_V128k internet, isdn?06:18
lucas_aialocer, I got 1GB.06:18
lucas_aiGb06:18
alocerMike_V, yup ;)06:18
alocerlucas_ai, ROFL :)06:18
lapionwow lucas 128KB/s...06:19
Mike_Vgeez i remember those days, hell i remember 300baud06:19
debkad128 kb/s is not bad06:20
Mike_Vthese whipper snappers don't know slow...06:20
lotuspsychjelucas_ai: how about aria2, can that help?06:20
alocerMike_V, seems i'm living in your memory06:20
* lapion remembers using a single phone cable to connect two computer at 150baud to transfer files..06:20
lotuspsychje!info aria206:20
ubottuaria2 (source: aria2): High speed download utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.0-1build1 (xenial), package size 1202 kB, installed size 4386 kB06:20
Mike_Vused to do a lot of stuff for Government, they used isdn even when dsl was available06:21
alocerMike_V, in my country they won't allow anyone to use more than 128K except the company's .06:21
lotuspsychjekeep it support related guys06:21
alocerthere is no one to support :(06:21
kino123What the..which country is that?06:21
debkadalocer: which country?06:21
alocerKindOne, Fuking Islamic republic of fuking iran06:21
lotuspsychje!ot06:22
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:22
debkadoh06:22
debkadalocer: at least you have eutelsat w3 i think06:22
debkadby sattelite06:22
lotuspsychjedebkad: stop it plz06:22
debkadok06:22
kino123lotuspsychje: im still w8ng reply from EriC^^ about my problem06:23
kino123Sorry if went offtopic06:24
lotuspsychjekino123: best way is to re-ask your question in here, all in one line, once in a while so others can read/help06:24
Techkino123: I wouldn't expect ANYONE in here helping to take the time to scroll up and look at your last response so use ClipX or similar and have those questions ready to paste again if someone hasn't answered in a while. It's just too hard to keep up with it otherwise I've noticed. Hope this helps.  :-)06:26
kino123lotuspsychje: eric ask me to run ecryptfs-recover-private,and it found .private dunno if i should recover it instantly or not06:26
lotuspsychjekino123: re-ask something like this in chat: im trying to recover...on ubuntu version...tried these steps....06:28
lotuspsychje!details06:28
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.06:28
alocerguys any offtopic channel available ?06:29
cfhowlett!ot | alocer06:29
lotuspsychje!ot | alocer sure06:29
ubottualocer: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:29
ubottualocer sure: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:29
alocerty06:30
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totonne98yo06:30
lotuspsychjetotonne98: what can we do for you?06:31
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lucas_aiAny idea how to download a package (eg: gimp) and ALL its dependencies? No installation yet.06:37
debkadlucas_ai: i think apt-get download06:38
TrueDetectiveglitchd06:38
roi84hi guys how you doing06:39
lucas_aidebkad, it downloads only the package itself and not its dependencies06:40
cfhowlettlucas_ai, apt manages dependencies.06:40
roi84i am new in ubuntu i need some help please how i can secure my ubuntu in the best way06:40
lucas_aicfhowlett, yes, but apt-get download isn't downloading the package's dependencies.06:41
cfhowlettroi84, 1.  enable firewall.   2.  stay off shady websites.   3.  create and use low-privilege user account and use the root account ONLY for system maintenance.06:41
cfhowlettlucas_ai, apt-get install -s gimp.   copy and paste the resulting file list in your at-get download06:42
roi84 cfhowlett  thanks man06:42
cfhowlettroi84, happy2help!06:43
roi84what version of firewall please ?06:43
cfhowlett!ufw | roi8406:43
ubotturoi84: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo06:43
roi84thanks guys06:43
lucas_aicfhowlett, the output list is not just a list of packages. It has text. Any idea how to get the proper list?06:43
alocerlucas_ai, links of the packages you meaN ?06:44
lucas_aiI was using "apt-cache depends gimp" but I guess your method should be better06:44
lucas_aialocer, no. I need to get the package names that apt-get would install when I run "apt-get install gimp"06:44
Ben64lucas_ai: why can't you include more than one package in your "sudo apt-get install" or just wait a few seconds for the install to finish?06:44
cfhowlettlucas_ai, :)  sorry that's the best suggestion i have06:44
cfhowlettthis ^^^^06:44
lucas_aiBen64, because the install doesn't take "a few seconds". It often takes hours. Also, I'm following different tutorials on many different things I need installed.06:45
ducasselucas_ai: 'apt-get install --download-only gimp'?06:45
lucas_aiIt wouldn't make sense for me to compile all packages I could ever need today and run a single apt-get install ALL_PACKAGES_FOR_TODAY command06:46
Ben64are you running ubuntu on a toaster? nothing takes hours06:46
alocerlucas_ai, let me look . i know a command .06:46
lucas_aiducasse, that downloads to apt's directory. it could cause problems. I need it to download to my own directory I think06:46
kino123ive waited for my phone cause it lag but the irc client isnt updating anymore so i just logged in on hexchat here06:46
alocerlucas_ai, apt-get install <appname> -s06:46
lucas_aiBen64, the internet is slow.06:46
lucas_aionly 1Gbps06:46
Ben64ONLY?!06:46
kino123EriC^^, are you there now06:47
lucas_aiBen64, yes. Some packages have so many dependencies that the total download is slow.06:47
Ben64you must be joking06:47
alocerBen64, getting one package at time will take long time .06:48
Ben64not at 1gbps06:48
debkad1Gbps is slow wow06:48
lucas_aiBen64, try "sudo apt install ros-kinetic-desktop-full" and see if it takes "a few seconds" as you say.06:48
Ben64unable to locate package, took 0.7s06:49
debkadlol06:49
kino123lol06:49
lucas_aithat's false. The package is in the main repos afaik06:49
Ben64nope.jpg06:49
lucas_aiyou're a troll :)06:49
Ben64!info ros-kinetic-desktop-full06:49
ubottuPackage ros-kinetic-desktop-full does not exist in xenial06:49
Ben64oh snap, i'm right06:49
alocerlol06:49
lucas_aiok then. add the ppas and try it06:49
debkadi also have no package named ros-kinetic-desktop-full06:50
debkadwhat is that06:50
debkadah ppa06:50
lucas_aieven "sudo apt-get install gimp" takes more than a minute for me06:50
debkadlucas_ai: what's wrong if it take few more than a minute06:50
lucas_aidebkad, I have to wait before I can enter more "apt-get install" commands. Which is a bottleneck for productivity06:51
debkadapt-get install gimp ==> go dring a coffee for example and make life easy06:51
debkadthat what i do my self ( have a slow internet too )06:52
lucas_aidebkad, a smart person would make a simple script to improve it :)06:52
debkadthe time you wasting on asking about it, better to start the apt-get06:53
kino123 I reset my password using recovery mode and when i logged in it was accepted but it wont let me in,Tried some commands and fix it but my files are gone,EriC^^ suggested i use sudo ecryptfs-recover-private to fix it and i dunno if i should say yes to recover the result,any help is appreciated06:53
Ben64lucas_ai: and you've been told before what you want isn't possible06:53
lucas_aidebkad, no because I'll use this script forever06:54
workerbeetwoHi. How to sort the output of WC -l ?06:54
lucas_aiBen64, I disagree.06:54
Ben64i know you do, but you shouldn't06:54
hateballworkerbeetwo: pipe it to sort06:54
lucas_aiTriffid_Hunter says it works fine in gentoo06:54
hateballworkerbeetwo: as in: wc -l |sort06:54
debkadlucas_ai: good luck, i hope you will share it when you finish it, i will be the first one using it, if it work06:54
lucas_aidebkad, thanks. I'll try to make it easy to use and share it. I'm sure many people would benefit06:55
debkadi wish you luck06:55
debkadwc -l will give you just number of lines06:56
debkadwhat the reason to sort that06:57
Ben64sort files by how many lines?06:57
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workerbeetwoBen64: yes. thats the idea07:00
debkadsort -n or sort -h if you like numeric sort07:00
lucas_aihow do I remove warnings from apt-get download?07:01
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truthwhistlehttps://twitter.com/behindcurtains107:01
workerbeetwoBen64: yes. thats the idea07:01
debkadlucas_ai: -q or may be -qq07:02
debkad-qq No output except for errors07:02
workerbeetwobut the numbergin of wc is without preceeeding zeros. so sort will group up, but not really sort by the LOC.07:02
Ben64workerbeetwo: |sort -h07:04
workerbeetwoBen64: thanks. thats it.07:05
kino123I reset my password using recovery mode and when i logged in it was accepted but it wont let me in,Tried some commands and fix it but my files are gone,EriC^^ suggested i use sudo ecryptfs-recover-private to fix it and i dunno if i should say yes to recover the result,any help is appreciated07:06
kino123im worried if i say yes and the recover .private is empty it will overwrite my encrypted files07:07
kino123so im still stuck at try to recover .private question...07:08
debkadkino123: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38336/how-do-i-recover-my-data-from-an-encrypted-home-directory07:16
debkadfrom that link the guy say you should confirm by yes/y07:17
ibiztahello07:19
kino123thanks a lot debkad^_^07:19
debkadno problem07:20
ibiztahei bro07:20
ibiztahei debkad07:20
ibiztahei kino12307:20
ibiztahai fernothing07:20
debkadhello07:20
ibiztaim just test irssi on terminal07:21
kino123debkad oh no i dont know what login paraphrase is,is there anyway to know07:22
kino123i dont know my former password thats why i reset it so how can i recover encrypted07:23
debkadkino123: try the second answer07:23
qwertI am having trouble booting from my liveCD usb drive into an old PC, it says isolinux.bin missing or corrupted, while the same usb drive works fine in newer laptops.07:26
qwertI prepared the usb using dd bs=4M07:26
debkadqwert: try copy the isolinux.bin to the root of the usb07:26
qwertok, i'll try07:27
Kartagishello07:29
qwertdebkad: the one from the isolinux directory?07:29
debkadqwert: yes07:29
KartagisI can't get xserver-xorg-video-intel to install; it gives unmet dependencies. how do I get that? I thought apt-get installed all dependencies as well07:31
qwertdebkad: it says, its read only file system07:36
qwertI can't copy it.07:36
debkaddd ?07:36
qwertyup.07:37
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debkadhmm07:37
qwertshould I use cp instead?07:37
pinoehi07:39
debkadqwert: i think this will help you http://askubuntu.com/questions/565493/usb-disk-stuck-in-read-only-after-dd-an-iso07:39
KartagisI can't get xserver-xorg-video-intel to install; it gives unmet dependencies. how do I get that? I thought apt-get installed all dependencies as well07:39
debkadthe hdparm07:39
debkador the mount07:39
abkhey, does anyone knows if standard Ubuntu 16.4 amd64 installation media would work for Intel NUC07:40
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debkadKartagis: what command you tried to use for install07:41
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Kartagissudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel07:42
Kartagisdebkad: ^^07:42
sed_swKartagis: try sudo apt-get install intel-linux-graphics-installer07:43
debkadKartagis: try the same command but at the end hit tab07:43
debkadthat will give you the exact name07:43
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ducassesed_sw: that's not in the ubuntu repos07:44
debkadbrb07:45
pz91hello, how i can add device to device tree without rebuilding kernel? i have .dtd file with device information07:46
ducassepz91: try #ubuntu-arm07:46
pz91kk07:47
sonu_nkhi i m not able to open my about this computer tab,system setting tab,,, when i am clickng on it , it is not opening07:53
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Guest22620Atlantis.greekchat.eu/leschat07:58
Cmaj6Guys please help. Since yesterday, after starting my computer up internet is not working. My computer's connected wirelessly via an ath9k card. Everything worked fine the last time i used the computer, but now all of a sudden not. Wireless networks can be detected thought and i can connect to the wireless networks i used to connect with, however, no internet. If i dual boot windows, then internet is working fine, so it's not a faulty08:12
Cmaj6network card or faulty modem. I have tried shutting down windows properly (using 'shutdown /s /t 0'), but to no avail. Pls help.08:12
elias_aCmaj6: "shutting down windows"? I don't get it...08:13
elias_aCmaj6: Are you sure you have not accidentally switched off a wlan switch?08:14
Cmaj6elias_a, i booted windows (i dual boot windows and ubuntu), and then shut down the computer using 'shutdown /s /t 0'08:14
Cmaj6elias_a, yes, besides, i do not have a wlan switch08:14
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elias_aCmaj6: I still do not get it. You booted to windows and used a command line command to shut it down?08:15
Cmaj6elias_a, yes, indeed08:16
k1lCmaj6: if you boot an older kernel in grub menu das it work again?08:16
debkadhow you are connected here?08:17
Cmaj6k1l, tried that, but not working08:18
Cmaj6debkad, by a separate laptop08:18
k1lCmaj6: does that machine have internetaccess with lan cable?08:18
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debkadCmaj6: checked the password for the wifi?08:19
Cmaj6debkad, yes, also deleted the networks and reconnected again, but no internet. Also set IPV6 to ignore, but still no internet08:20
debkadCmaj6: ifconfig show your local ip?08:20
Cmaj6debkad, i ifconfig lists my devices and wlan0. I don't know which line shows my ip?08:21
debkadinet adr:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx08:22
debkadunder wlanX08:22
debkad?08:23
k1lCmaj6: does "rfkill list" list the wifi device and show it as blocked?08:23
debkadwe lost him08:25
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Cmaj6debkad, k1l i have it working!08:29
debkadhmm08:29
debkadwhat a magic thing you did08:29
Cmaj6debkad, it seems my name resolution was broken08:31
debkadah08:31
c0ns0leHi to all...08:34
debkadhi08:34
killuminatiKilluminati ! Banish secret societies like illuminati !!!!! Psychiatry is a FRAUD !!!!!!!!! Israel terrorist state want put me in psychiatric yard!!!!!! Come and destroy this country now!!!!!!!!!08:36
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tibroxhow do I disable unity multi-touch?08:39
justthisguyHey Guys, can one add a comment to an already existing iptables rule? instead of having to re-add the entire line with said comment added? Thanks in advance08:40
biotechy2kOK Now that's out of left field LOL08:43
tibroxubottu, multi touch08:44
arkoudaWww.heliosradio.com08:44
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tibrox<reply> Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3...08:45
tibrox!ubottu, multi touch08:46
ubottutibrox: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:46
ikoniatibrox: the bot works fine08:46
tibroxikonia, trying the bot's faq08:47
ikoniatibrox: please do it in a pm08:47
ikoniatibrox: be aware you have no edit access, so trying to edit a factoid like that won't work08:47
tibroxjust trying to disable annoying multi touch on unity08:48
tibroxgoogling not helping08:48
glitchdtibrox, Go into System Settings>Keyboard and Mouse>Touchpad and uncheck multi gesture?08:49
tibroxnope08:50
glitchdtibrox, See http://askubuntu.com/a/198524/32152108:51
glitchdsynclient ClickFinger3=208:51
glitchdsynclient TapButton3=208:51
tibroxglitchd, that seems towork.  Thanks08:52
glitchdtibrox, np08:53
glitchdtibrox, you can also use ccsm to change preferences of multi-touch08:54
biotechy2ktibrox: reading you loud and clear mate08:54
glitchdtibrox, sudo apt-get install ccsm -> open terminal -> ccsm08:55
biotechy2kgot to love school holidays my net speed is as slow as a dead bug08:56
k1lbiotechy2k: please keep this channel for technical support only. for chat we have the extra channel #ubuntu-offtopic08:57
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neuromute9hey folks, i'm having trouble setting up gufw to let synergy work.  when the firewall is disabled, the synergy clients connect fine, but with the firewall on it fails to connect.  the port is 24800, i can see it in the report section.08:57
neuromute9if I create a rule by selecting synergy in the report section, the rule isn't sufficient and the clients don't connect08:58
biotechy2kmeh08:58
ina_good morning. I use Kubuntu 16.04, since today morning i can't login anymore: a wrong password creates the normal error message and asks again, the correct password turns the mouse symbol into an x and nothing happens. Since the fan doesn't turn up, i think it's not an infinite loop but waiting for something09:11
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ina_i have no idea where to start here...09:12
glitchdina_, 1 minute09:13
k1lina_: does the guest account work?09:13
ina_moment, i will try it09:13
glitchdina_, sounds like a problem with the Xauthority file09:15
tomreyn&x ina_: you can press ctrl-alt-f1 and login on the text console, then use the command line to diagnose it further. start by looking at /var/log/Xorg* logs and ~/.xsession-errors - you can use the command 'less' to look at these files. press 'q' to exit it.09:15
tomreyn...but try the guest account first09:16
ina_i have to look up how to log in with guest account. Or do i just have no guest account?09:16
ina_I can log in in command line09:17
k1li dont know if the kubuntu setup got a guest account. maybe the guys in #kubuntu know better such specifics09:17
ddnhHi all, how can I improve my HDD read timings in Ubuntu?09:18
glitchdina_, not to sidestep tomreyn, but to expedite this situation and get you to a usable desktop, do this. crtl+alt+F1 the type in your login information, then "mv .Xauthority .Xauthority.bak, then crtl+alt+F7 and try to login again09:18
k1lddnh: get a ssd :)09:18
ddnhk1l, :)09:18
glitchdina_, tell me if that works or not.09:19
debkadoh09:19
glitchdina_, dont type to quote from that command..09:19
k1lddnh: the hdds got a limit through their setup. you could try to use bigger caches and ureadahead. but that is all just peanuts to change to a ssd which got a lot more speed from the hardware setup09:20
glitchdina_, any progress?09:21
ina_glitchd: where should .Xauthority be? in /home/<username>?09:21
ina_.Xauthority doesn't exist in /home/username i think09:22
k1lina_: yes, in the users home you try to login09:22
cantoowhat is ubuntu's beta stage ?09:22
ina_because auto-completition doesn't work with mv .X09:22
ddnhk1l, this is poor https://paste.ubuntu.com/23232976/09:22
glitchdina_, yes, crtl+alt+F! shold put you at a prompt asking for your user name them password, then it should put you in your home folder. that is where the .Xauthority file is.09:22
debkadyou can use ~/.Xauthority09:22
k1lina_: after logging in on terminal, do a "ls -al". what does belong to the user "root" there?09:22
ina_glitchd: i am in the f1-terminal and loged in09:23
glitchdina_, yes just as debkad says, use ~/.Xauthority09:23
glitchdina_, so the command will be, mv ~/.Xauthoriy .Xauthority.bak09:24
ina_glitchd: i think i've found the problem. i have ecryptfs on my home folder and the text console doesn't mount it09:25
ina_that's why there's no .Xautority09:26
cantooyou can copy it back ina_09:26
cantooif you need it09:26
cantooregenerate one works often.  someone might even have one for ya they can pastebin09:26
cantooooh09:27
cantooyou must need a undeleting utility09:27
cantoothose are in the ubuntu repos09:27
cantoosudo apt-cache search undelete09:27
cantoodon't be creating new files09:27
k1lno need for that09:27
cantoocreating a new file can overwrite your data09:28
cantooalso, be failsafe with those utilities09:28
cantooif it says do not abort the scan, never abort the scan or that sucker is gone09:28
cantooi'm that stupid.  and i'm always that stupid sometimes09:28
debkadwhat happening here09:30
hrustiHi. I cannot boot to windows 10 after installing ubuntu 16.04. I have tried to repair it with boot-repair (reinstall grub2) but there is still only ubuntu in boot menu. Logs: http://paste2.org/6Ap0c9zZ What am I missing?09:31
ina_i think i've found the login problem09:31
ina_i changed my user password but not the ecryptfs-password09:31
debkadcongratulation ina_ in advance09:32
cantooina_, you can always recover wheel password from recovery grub entry with a slight modification of init=#/bin/bash09:33
cantooin the old days.  it was there by default09:33
cantoowithout the init being needed09:33
debkadhrusti: i think the problem is in sda209:33
ina_according to wiki.ubuntuusers.de, the ecryptfs-password is changed too when the user-passwd is changed...09:34
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k1lina_: depends on how you changed the password.09:34
cantooi use ubuntuforums09:34
cantoocareful what you do, even when it seems like its the perfect solution happened to me.  so be careful09:35
cantooits cleaner than most anything and you get answers09:35
ikoniacantoo: please stop saying random generic things09:35
glitchdina_, sry, i have to go, hope you figure it out=)09:35
cantooikonia, i am not saying random generic things09:35
hrustidebkad: I can see that sda2 has unknown mount type. But I guess it should still boot to windows because it is on another partition?09:36
ikoniacantoo: it certainly appears that way09:36
cantoosomeone in .de needed help and i pointed to someone that may be better09:36
k1lcantoo: you do. you did give false advice with undelete, you did give false advice with changing the grub parameters. stop that09:36
debkadhrusti: yeah correct09:36
cantoomay i ask by what ikonia ?09:36
ikoniacantoo: by what ?09:36
debkadhrusti: secure boot is disabled from bios?09:36
cantoosecond grub entry for recovery i could not change my admin password with default grub in either 16.04 or 14.0409:36
cantoowithout having to add something to it.  i already said what09:37
k1lcantoo: that is totally unrelated to the issue that user got.09:37
cantoosudo apt-cache search undelete is the correct answer if you need to find a file that no longer exists09:37
debkadapt-cache doesn't need sudo09:38
hrustidebkad: hm.. not sure.. Should be?09:38
cantooi apologize, and it should be obvious to anyone helping that it was on obvious mistake09:38
k1lcantoo: again: that is not helping the user asking for support09:38
cantooan obvious mistake cannot be forgiven in this channel ?09:38
debkadhrusti: of course if you need to update/repair grub , when done you can enable it later09:38
hrustidebkad: Ok. Let me check. Brb09:39
debkadcantoo: give right answer or don't09:39
ina_k1l: i used the account manager of kde09:39
k1lina_: ok, i dont know if that kde software handles that correctly.09:39
cantooto the point an obvious mistaken can't be made ?  get both right ?  i said it was an honest mistake09:40
dafhewwhat is my root password?09:43
k1ldafhew: there is non. on ubuntu we use sudo09:43
k1l!sudo | dafhew09:43
ubottudafhew: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !pkexec (for older releases: !gksu and !kdesudo). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo09:43
dafhewhow can I su into root?09:43
k1ldafhew: for commands preface them with sudo (but dont do that for all commands.). if you need a root shell, then use sudo -i09:44
dafhewah, thanks09:45
dafhewwill things break in Software, if I install packages iwth apt-get?09:45
hrustidebkad: secure boot was disabled09:46
dafhewis there a nice text editor that possibly supports C/PHP syntax highlighting? which would you recommend as a secondary web browser? how do I edit the keymap?09:47
debkadhrusti: when you reboot you see all the OS's except windows?09:47
hrustidebkad: I have only ubuntu and windows 10 so I see only ubuntu09:49
Grorcodid anyone see/ respond I have a horrible connection09:49
dafhewis µTorrent only for Windows? Transmission is not so nice for me09:49
debkadhrusti: try: sudo os-prober <== did this show windows?09:49
hrustidebkad: secure ubuntu, and system confugiration (bios) as well09:49
ina_thx for help! i've solved the problem by unwrapping the ecryptfs-passphrase with the old password and wrapping it by the new one09:50
hrustidebkad: nope09:50
debkadhrusti: ls /etc/grub.d ?09:51
dafhewbtw, the command I needed was 'xset s 0 0', in case someone else comes in with the same complaint :)09:51
hrustidebkad: 00_header 10_linux 30_os-prober 40_custom README 05_debian_theme 20_linux_xen 30_uefi-firmware 41_custom09:52
debkadhrusti: i mean see if ls -l /etc/grub.d does shown xx_os-prober as executable09:52
debkadexcept the README09:52
hrustidebkad: yes it is09:53
debkadweird09:53
hrustios-prober does not return anything?09:54
dafhew"Need to get 0 B/37.5 kB of archives." :D09:54
wish^Starting VirtualBox kernel modules * modprobe vboxdrv failed. Please use 'dmesg' to find out why. Is there a reason that after i ran normal ubuntu updates i can no longer start virtualbox because it is incomplete?09:54
dafhewhow do I fix errors that were encountered while processing libboost-filesystem1.58.0:amd64?09:54
wish^The kernel modules wont start09:55
dafhew"package is in a very bad inconsistent state" :P09:55
k1lwish^: what ubuntu release is that? what kernel is installed?09:56
ChetManly# Generated by sensors-detect on Mon Sep 26 03:34:46 2016# Chip   drivers it8709:56
dafhewwhat key combinations do I use for copy and paste? can I somehow set the Windows key to be used to bring up the program menu?09:56
wish^14.04 4.4.0-38-generic09:56
ChetManlybut I do not see it87 with lsmod09:56
hrustidebkad: btw I can browse windows partition in ubuntu file explorer09:57
k1lwish^: is "linux-generic-lts-xenial" installed?09:57
debkadhrusti: take a look here https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229530009:57
wish^linux-generic-lts-xenial is already the newest version.09:58
wish^When i try install it09:58
k1lwish^: ok. so run "dmesg" and see what the issue is there09:58
wish^  886.300782] capability: warning: `VirtualBox' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)09:59
ChetManlywish^:  you are using kernel from newer distributions eg.16.04 with yours 14.0409:59
wish^https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack i went here09:59
wish^I thought that is the kernel i want to be using10:00
dafhewusing Ubuntu under stress takes me back to 1989 and Amiga 50010:00
debkadi have the same kernel but un trusty10:00
debkadon*10:00
ChetManlywish^: not that it bad or anything just why you have the xenial part10:00
k1lwish^: that is a  virtualbox issue. not a ubuntu or linux one10:00
k1lwish^: ChetManly that enablement stack kernel is fine10:00
wish^k1l, It started happening right after i ran system updates and it did alot of linux-generic-header updates10:00
wish^k1l, Besides that is just a warning and has nothing to do with the kernel modules not starting10:02
PCdudehey all :)10:02
hrustidebkad: ok I will check what bbs boot priority is set to brb10:02
PCdudeI want to add mail support to ubuntu landscape10:02
ChetManlyk1l: when did this become a thing?10:02
k1lChetManly: since years10:02
k1l!hwe | ChetManly10:03
ubottuChetManly: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack10:03
PCdudehow do I do that?10:03
k1lwish^: you have a uefi + vbox issue.10:03
ChetManlyk1l: can you tell me what the issue with wish is? I came late10:04
k1lwish^: actually its an issue with the signing key from vbox and secureboot10:05
wish^http://paste.ubuntu.com/23233089/10:05
wish^This is the issue10:05
wish^i have tried to reinstall dkms package10:06
k1lwish^: is virtualbox-dkms installed?10:06
wish^and it completes the install and still cant start the kernel modules10:06
wish^at the end10:06
ChetManlywish^: install build-essentials, always works for me10:06
wish^build-essential is already the newest version.10:06
ChetManlywish^: gives you extra stuff but Ive never had it fail10:06
ChetManlywell then10:07
wish^This exact same thing happened once before10:07
wish^And i managed to fix it, then i ran updates again and back to square one10:07
wish^I was in here then too10:07
ChetManlywhen I get new system I get the restricted extras then build essentials before I do anything e lse10:08
wish^http://paste.ubuntu.com/23233137/10:08
hrustidebkad: I have only one option and that is my Hard drive or I can disable it10:08
wish^Do i maybe need to revert back to older kernel?10:10
ChetManlyI have newer kernel and vbox on 14.0410:10
debkadhrusti: there is uefi option too10:11
ChetManlymaybe reinstall build-essential and see if it will do the dkms hook10:11
ikoniabuilt-essentials are just tools10:11
ikoniait will not do anyhing, it's a meta-package10:11
GrorcoHi can anyone point me in the right direction. I wrote a http server using python to run on a wireless ap using ubuntu mate 16.04 I'm trying to figure out how to redirect all traffic to my loopback10:14
dafhewI've now had 100% hard drive use for 20 minutes - this is just like Windows10:14
naughtypirate@Grorco just use the iptables input chain10:15
ikoniaGrorco: just use iptables, or make your httpd server use it10:15
naughtypirateLOOL10:15
sorin-mihailooking through the enabled units in systemd, i see that rsyslog is also enabled. why is that, on a fresh install, considering that systemd is used and it has journald already?10:16
naughtypiratelegacy support basically10:16
ikoniawhat ?10:16
hrustidebkad: It's not? Only 'HDD' and 'disabled' options?10:17
wish^k1l, ChetManly So for anyone curious, the issue arises when the kernel is updated the EFI_SECURE_BOOT_SIG_ENFORCE kernel config has been enabled.. And that  screws with virtualbox10:17
Grorconaughtypirate, ikonia, thanks I'll look into setting up the iptables10:17
wish^So i needed to do sudo mokutil --disable-validation10:17
wish^Restart my computer and disable secure boot, and now everything is fine10:17
k1l<k1l> wish^: actually its an issue with the signing key from vbox and secureboot10:17
wish^k1l, Did not se that10:19
wish^see*10:19
dafhew"What I did to stop it without effect: run some command found in the internet" :D10:19
debkadhrusti: i never used UFEI as i haven't that on this ild pc, that up to you on whick key from your keyboard when you boot to let you choose what system to boot on10:20
dafhew"Light Locker Settings" :P10:21
ChetManlysecureboot FTW10:21
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sorin-mihainaughtypirate, so it is safe to disable rsyslog? here's my current list of enabled units: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/anonymous/9af6b6e55bd5d41f8d0a0100eb486035/raw/787eda0b40c930ba89896ac7dff0a674bde6c6e0/gistfile1.txt10:23
andyworkjoin #windows10:23
andyworkops10:23
arkoudaHello hello :)  would you like to visit www.greekircnet.gr?10:24
wish^Thanks k1l10:24
ducassesorin-mihai: i'd keep rsyslog, since journald logs in a binary format - plain text logs can be useful10:25
dafhewwhat is Ubuntu One and for what reason?10:25
dafhewdoes the desktop Ubuntu do some daily housecleaning or is it even running a crond?10:25
dafhewcan I monitor disk and network use?10:26
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dafhewhow do I install Flash?10:29
dafhewwhere can I find instructions and suggestions?10:29
dafhewis there a user's manual for Ubuntu?10:29
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dafhewwhy doesn't Software have a scrollbar?10:31
r0bert__hi10:32
dafhewhow do I find programs?10:33
naughtypiratekid plz10:34
naughtypiratedafhew: Either ask a specific question or just grab  a book , noone is going to reply to a million random questions10:35
ducasse!manual | dafhew10:37
ubottudafhew: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/10:37
ChetManly!it8710:37
ronaldsmazitisjpg.crdownload file10:38
rock77hello everybody! I am getting error while packaging error is http://paste.ubuntu.com/23233231/10:38
ronaldsmazitisnn.jpg.crdownlide file I can't delete from my nautilus desktop10:38
ronaldsmazitishelp me remove icon10:39
ronaldsmazitisIt DOES NOT RENAMES OR DELETES10:39
debkadronaldsmazitis: where is that file?10:39
ronaldsmazitisit's kinda archieve from music video file picture I downloaded10:40
ronaldsmazitison my /Desktop10:40
ronaldsmazitisI tried to rm it, it does not work10:40
ronaldsmazitiscommand line10:40
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debkadronaldsmazitis: stat -c "%U:%G" Desktop/jpg.crdownload will show you whois the owner for it10:41
dafhewnaughtypirate: is your objection the quality of my questions or the number thereof? you gotta pick one...10:42
dafhewthanks, ubottu! I mean, ducasse :)10:42
ronaldsmazitisit shows there is no such folder10:42
ronaldsmazitisno such file or directory10:43
debkadronaldsmazitis: that was just an example i don't know where or what is called10:43
debkadstat -c "%U:%G" /path/to/that/file10:43
naughtypiratelol10:43
naughtypiratetime to c/p some forkbombs10:44
WaleedHi guys10:44
debkadhi10:44
WaleedNeed help with flushing dns cache in 16.0410:44
WaleedAny help appreciated10:45
debkadgo ahead someone will answer you10:45
WaleedOld method not working.  /etc/init.d/dns-clean10:46
WaleedTried networking force-reload10:47
rock77 I am getting error while packaging in debian.error is http://paste.ubuntu.com/23233231/10:47
dafhewI apologize for exceeding the limit of questions, but if someone wants to answer any of them, please PM, since I am going afk10:53
debkadWaleed: with sudo?10:54
debkaddafhew: you can find a program by typing first 2 or 3 letters and hit tab, if you mean packages, apt-cache search PACKAGE_NAME10:59
AvaniHey all! I'm running a live Ubuntu 16.04 LTS from USB. It doesn't have synaptic. What's the best way to configure repos for it to use, in GUI?11:00
AvaniI tried apt-get install synaptic, but it tells me tat has no installation candidate11:01
AvaniAnd "Ubuntu Software" doesn't seem to have a menu for selecting repos11:02
sorin-mihaiapt update11:02
sorin-mihaithen you'll be able to search packages in the repos already enabled11:03
AvaniI see11:03
debkadyes that will refresh the repo11:03
john_tmphey guys, maybe you can help me with my problem: I'm running ubuntu 16.04 on a dell xps 13(2013) and my wifi ist unstable: connecting is fine, but the connection itself gets randomly slow. I'm using the recommended broadcom driver (http://pastebin.com/raw/RXHUh8fy)11:03
Avanisorin-mihai: So keep using apt instead of apt-get that used to be the old command?11:07
kernellohello everyone, I wanted to install a tool from software center, and was prompted to enter my password as usual. but before I entered it the notice appeared on the upper right corner that the tool was installed. I tried twice more, the same??!11:07
kernellowhen I checked it via dash, the tool was not shown, though11:08
naughtypiratekernello try installing it with apt-get see what that says11:09
kernellonaughtypirate, now I already installed it, but can deinstall and check11:09
naughtypiratekernello , no need apt-get will tell you its already installed11:10
debkadjohn_tmp: not sure if this can help http://askubuntu.com/questions/764387/very-slow-internet-connection-on-ubuntu-16-0411:10
SomethisGERurrggh, Nano is so annoying in Tmux ... :-)11:11
kernellonaughtypirate, yes, it says installed11:12
debkad:)11:12
kernellobut what I told happened before I entered my login password11:12
SomethisGERyou can't select text because Alt-A is blocked and you can't delete mistyped words fast.11:12
kernelloand strange again: the referred tool in sw center now still displays 'install' button, whereas it had to be 'remove' button11:12
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SomethisGERI wished there were a Gedit variant for the terminal.11:13
joseph?11:13
kernelloand it still asks me login password when I click on install for an already installed tool11:13
kernellosomething seems to be wrong there, noß11:13
kernello?11:13
Dubna_K42I have heard that there's no need to use clamav11:14
sonu_nkhi how to rest proxy setting in ubuntu 14 ?11:14
sonu_nk*rest =reset11:14
debkadDubna_K42: yes, it is used just to scan M$ things11:14
john_tmpdebkad: i stumpled upon ipv6 earlier and disabled it in the network manager. trying out the askubuntu solution now11:15
GrorcoI'm getting an unresolved host error when trying sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -p all -d 127.0.0.111:15
josephhow do u install stuff11:15
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naughtypirateThere is RTFM-install11:17
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debkadjoseph: synaptic or apt-get install11:17
joseph?11:17
ducasse!manual | joseph11:18
ubottujoseph: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/11:18
Dubna_K42I am using dual-boot, and hardly use Windows 10. Can a microsoft virus run on Ubuntu? Or it will go to a long sleep till forever??11:19
* spratapakshay 11:20
john_tmp_didnt work out as planned. Note: i am pinging my router in order to measure the performance (http://pastebin.com/raw/SA4YtM68)11:20
john_tmp_ubuntu dell is the only device in my network with that problem11:20
k1ljoseph: use the software center?11:21
josephidk what that is11:22
naughtypirateDubna_K42 no dont worry about that too much , there is some malware that attacks other drives such as some cryptolockers but in general , dont worry, always backup data11:22
sonu_nkhi is there any one expericed with composser intalltion.11:22
k1ljoseph: can you give more detail? what is your issue exactly? you dont know how to use a desktop and a software-center?11:23
SomethisGERAny suggestions how to quickly correct a mistyped word in nano? (e.g. alt-del in bash shell)11:23
josephidk how to use this thing my dad put on a laptop for me to take a class11:23
Dubna_K42naughtypirate: I am not able to back up Microsoft datas right now, due to lack of external storage. Is it vulnerable?11:24
Dubna_K42By the way, if I keep those Microsoft drives mounted, will they be affected by the malwares?11:26
k1lDubna_K42: what malware? malware for ubuntu?11:26
k1ljoseph: open the software center and install the software you need11:27
Dubna_K42<k1l>: no11:27
Bent0I have this box which doesnt do any video output after POST. It works on another monitor but not this simple 1440x900 VGA monitor. Any pointers?11:28
naughtypirateDubna_K42 no, its far far more likely that if u have an infection of sorts it will run on windows and needs a booted OS to run , therefor mounting it from *nix can be considered safe, this will go for 99%+ of the cases11:28
Dubna_K42k1l: microsoft malwares11:28
osamamhdhi11:28
k1lDubna_K42: they dont work on ubuntu. but those malware can do changes to all your data on the disks, including the bootloader setup etc. so better ask the #windows guys how to prepare yourself11:29
AvaniHmm. The manual doesn't say anything about Live Ubuntu11:29
josephwhat is the software center11:29
lapionubiquity is realy annoying even though I have not changed any partitions, not even created a new filesystem ubiquity still refuses to continue without reloading the partition table11:30
k1lAvani: look at systemsettings -> software and updates11:30
naughtypiratejoseph: a fancy frontend for the ubuntu package manager11:30
Avanik1l: thanks! Will check it out11:30
lapionit's stuck on detecting file systems11:30
k1ljoseph: its the same like on android or iOS or windows.11:31
josephi dont use any of those i use desktop11:31
Avanik1l: Yups! That's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a bunch!11:31
osamamhdwhat11:32
lapionI have 3 partitions one contains the iso image the other two contain a valid swap and an empty ext4fs11:32
Avanijoseph: Press the "windows key" or "super key". Then type "Ubuntu software"11:32
AvaniYou should be able to see and click "Ubuntu software" to open it theren11:32
ronaldsmazitisfolder removed itself after restart, thanks for giving stat command11:32
josephits not working11:35
k1ljoseph: what exactly is not working?11:35
ChetManly!snapshot11:35
ChetManly!backup11:36
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning11:36
josephidk how to do anything11:36
k1ljoseph: ok, if you cant even describe what the issue is we cant help you in here.11:37
ChetManlyI want a snapshot of my system11:37
ppfChetManly: can your FS do that?11:38
k1lChetManly: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/2596/comparison-of-backup-tools11:38
ChetManlypardon11:38
ppfwhat filesystem are you using11:39
ppfsome of them can do snapshotting11:39
ppfapart from that, do a full backup, copy your harddrive someplace else, or dd it into an iso, or basically anything backup tools do for you11:39
AvaniThanks a ton k1l ! Once I enabled universe repos, I could install what i needed. :)11:40
AvaniSigning off for now. tc y'all!11:41
firefighterHello. I installed Ubuntu 16.04 with an old monitor.  Decided to try lubuntu-desktop (via sudo on command line)  The boot shows, Lubuntu and the shutdown shows Lubuntu but the session desktop looks like Ubuntu (Icons, background etc)11:44
firefighterDo I need to do something to ubuntu 16 to use the Lubuntu Desktop Environment11:44
firefighteror should it work "out of the box" after "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop"    ?11:45
ppffirefighter: what's your dm? lightdm?11:45
ppfyou can click the icon next to your username and choose a DE11:45
debkadfirefighter: may be remove ubuntu-desktop or something related to it but may be this will fire up many thingy11:46
firefighterhi thanks for responging11:46
debkadah i missed that part11:46
firefighterDo not know dm11:46
ppfthe thing where you type in your password upon boot11:47
firefighterDo not see my username on the screen as it is11:47
debkadautologin?11:47
ppfin case of autologin, log out of your current session and you should fall back to dm11:47
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firefighterOk, at boot there is no opetion as I remember11:47
firefighterI have Lubuntu on another box and can choose at boot and login11:48
ppfyou probably configured autologin11:48
firefighterI have it set up to loging with pw11:48
firefighterOk, if that is default, that is what I did11:48
ppfit's not default, you'll have enabled it during setup. log out of your current session and you should be brought to the login screen11:49
firefighterok logging out11:49
firefighterout11:49
debkadand choose the lubuntu/lxde session11:49
Bent0The second Ubuntu changes its resolution at boot (still all text) I lose video and it seems not to boot any further cause i cannot SSH into it after a few mins. When I connect it to a diff monitor it all works. Any ideas?11:50
firefighterThere is  a login with my Username and no options11:50
Bent0If I boot it with the working monitor and then connect if to the other one after boot I get video :s11:50
firefighterOnly entry for passwird11:50
ppfthere is an icon next to your username11:50
debkadnmap 192.168.1.101:10811:50
ppfa circle, or something like the ubuntu logo11:50
debkadsorry11:51
firefighterIt is up on the upper taskbar.11:51
firefighterThat should do the trick11:51
crazyadmhow do i search for app?11:51
firefighterWill try, many thanks!11:51
ppfhttp://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fa%2Fa8%2FLightDM_1.2.1_on_Ubuntu_12.04.png%2F250px-LightDM_1.2.1_on_Ubuntu_12.04.png&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLightDM&h=188&w=250&tbnid=R5ADEvY8f43MMM%3A&docid=rIB11kapvAMi_M&ei=uQvpV530OsSNUcXng-gB&tbm=isch&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=1417&page=0&start=0&ndsp=16&ved=0ahUKEwjdtLn5-6zPAhXERhQ11:51
crazyadmapt-get search returns nothing11:51
ppfKHcXzAB0QMwgzKAAwAA&bih=993&biw=95811:51
ppfuh, sorry11:51
debkadapt-cache11:51
ppffirefighter: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/LightDM_1.2.1_on_Ubuntu_12.04.png11:52
debkadppf: you can use tiny11:52
ppfthere's an ubuntu logo next to the username. that's what you click11:52
ppfdebkad: yeah, had the wrong link in my mouse, sorry again11:53
sonu_nkho how can i reset my proxy setting  ?11:53
BluesKajHowdy folks11:53
debkadthere is a script in the net about it11:53
debkadbrb11:53
firefighterThat circle icon on the taskbar was the key.   Thanks! ppf , debkad11:53
debkadNo problem11:54
debkadhi BluesKaj11:54
ppfwelcome11:54
sonu_nkhi why i am facing this error  : PHP Warning:  file_get_contents(https://getcomposer.org/versions): failed to open stream: Connection timed out in - on line 76211:54
BluesKajhi debkad11:54
ChetManlyk1l: holy poop11:54
NoCodeWhy won't gufw open up a series of ports when I tell it to? Testing when enabled, said ports are still closed.11:56
ChetManlyk1l: what do you use11:57
k1lChetManly: no snapshots.11:58
ChetManlyfresh?11:58
ppfif you want snapshots you should let your FS do that11:58
ChetManlymy filesystem?11:59
ppf(if you can)11:59
ppfChetManly: yes11:59
debkador dd the unmonted filesystem11:59
ChetManlyahh dd11:59
debkaddd if=source of=destination12:00
ChetManlyyep12:00
debkaddestination can be image or device12:00
debkadsame for source12:00
ChetManlydoes setting  bs-1G make a huge difference12:00
k1lbe careful with dd. it can erase all your data if you mess with the command12:00
debkadyeah12:00
ChetManly=*12:00
Ben64dd isn't a good backup solution12:00
ChetManlyI just want one12:01
Ben64one what12:01
k1lChetManly: i linked you a comparison of different solutions. why dont you choose one?12:01
debkadwhat your goal?12:01
ChetManlyno rolling snaps12:01
ChetManlyone snapshot period12:01
ChetManlyof root only12:02
debkadyou can just use something like rsync12:02
ChetManlyi think dd would be best12:02
debkado_o12:02
ChetManlydo need to sync thou12:02
ChetManlywhy not then?12:03
Ben64dd would have to read&write the whole partition12:03
ChetManlydont*12:03
ChetManlyone time ...would be ok wouldnt it12:03
debkadif you need to copy/backup specific things then use rsync or any tool that do that kind of stuff12:03
BluesKajdd can be fatal , but if one is careful, also very useful12:04
ChetManlyk1l: I did look through it all12:05
ChetManlylike my OS is on / and everything else is elsewhere12:05
Grorcookay I'm doing something wrong with these iptable chains I tried adding a rule to OUTPUT to take any protocol and set the destination to 127.0.0.1 and it did nothing what am I missing?12:05
ChetManlylike different disks12:05
ChetManlyI just hate customizing all over again when I totally bork my system12:06
ChetManlyit takes forever12:06
naughtypirateso dont be a noob ?12:07
ChetManlylol12:07
ChetManlyhard sometimes, I tldr-itis12:08
ChetManlyI have *12:08
lapionworkaround foun: just use toram and and more than 2GB of ram12:08
ChetManlyfudge!!! I have window dual boot so dd will be .....12:09
ChetManlyhows this gonna work, that partition is huge12:10
ChetManlyfudge cakes!!!12:10
Ben64why does dual boot make your partition huge12:10
ChetManlysame drive12:11
Ben64doesn't answer the question at all12:11
demetrishi12:12
ChetManlyoh wait the would work12:12
demetrisi have several .7z archives that all have in them a folder and in that folder are 2-3 binaries12:12
demetrisi want those binaries extracted in a single folder without any subfolders12:13
demetrisany help12:13
ChetManlydd if=/spotwheremybackupis of=/dev/sda512:13
ChetManlyid thats the correct partition would that mess up windows install or grub or anything?12:14
ChetManlyif*12:14
Ben64well you can't do that when the system is running12:15
ChetManlyyeah live disc12:15
ChetManlybut that will mess everything up12:15
ChetManlydrives will be renamed and such12:16
Ben64what?12:16
Ben64demetris: 7za e blah.7z12:17
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ChetManlymy system is weird I can get sda with one live disc and sdb with another, they seem to get read different sometimes12:17
ChetManlywithout changing anyting12:17
Ben64ok so make sure you pick the right one12:17
ChetManlyright, would there be a way to use uuid?12:18
ChetManlyor is that install specific?12:18
ducasseChetManly: /dev/disk/by-uuid/...12:18
Ben64yeah that^12:18
demetrisBen64, i have hunders of blah.7z12:19
Ben64for i in *7z; do blah; done12:19
ChetManlywhy doesnt canonical make a offical ubuntu youtube channel and make some money12:20
demetrisBen64, blah is the name of the z7 archive?12:21
Ben64blah is what you're doing with each one12:22
demetrislet me try12:23
yuppiewhats up guys, so i have puppet installing icingaweb2, but it seems like dpkg is failing to configure the package12:23
demetrisfor i in *; do 7za e "${i%/}.7z" "$i"; done12:24
demetriswhat about this one?12:24
Ben64why did you do all that ${i%/} stuff12:24
demetrisbecause i waqnt to batch extract them12:25
crazyadmi installed ubuntu-desktop12:25
crazyadmhow can i start gdm?12:25
Ben64demetris: do 7za e $i; done12:25
demetrisah12:25
demetristhanks12:25
Ben64dunno where you got all that stuff12:25
crazyadmhow do i get that gui login screen?12:25
crazyadmanyone know?12:26
crazyadmhelp ?12:26
Ben64crazyadm: chill out12:26
geirhawhy 'e' and not 'x'?12:26
BluesKajcrazyadm:  use lightdm12:26
Ben64geirha: because demetris doesn't want the folders12:26
crazyadmalready installed ubuntu-desktop package12:26
crazyadmis that unity12:26
crazyadm?12:26
demetrisfor i in *; do  7za e $i; done12:26
demetrisdoesnt work12:26
Ben64elaborate12:27
crazyadmwhat12:27
geirhafor file in ./*.7z; do 7za e "$file"; done12:27
demetrisError:12:27
demetristhere is no such archive12:27
crazyadmwhat does that mean to me12:27
crazyadmelaborate12:27
Ben64crazyadm: nothing12:27
yuppieyou guys want to see an error? https://gist.github.com/internaught/ef4e783d2767aecdbe8b6c01a47a9aa012:27
crazyadmso i installed ubuntu-desktop package12:27
crazyadmbut don't know how to start it12:27
crazyadmhelp need12:28
crazyadmneed help12:28
Ben64crazyadm: we're very aware of that. stop spamming12:28
ducasse!patience | crazyadm12:28
ubottucrazyadm: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/12:28
demetrisoh yes!12:28
demetristhank you geirha12:28
crazyadmi have to know. im in hurry12:28
yuppiecrazyadm is X running?12:28
demetrisworks like a charm12:28
crazyadmyuppie, yes it works fine.12:28
yuppieopen a shell and type "startx"12:28
crazyadmstartx right?12:28
yuppielol12:28
Ben64don't do startx12:28
yuppiewhat'd you install it on?12:28
yuppiewhy dont you just download and install ubuntu server?12:28
crazyadminstall on server12:29
yuppiei mean...12:29
yuppiedesktop12:29
crazyadmalready did12:29
yuppiere-image it12:29
yuppielol12:29
crazyadmno12:29
ChetManlyis preload stil a thing?12:29
crazyadmnow12:30
crazyadmhow do i start this shlt12:30
crazyadmgdm, no12:30
crazyadmi see two gdm12:30
debkado_o12:30
crazyadmgdm and gdm312:30
crazyadmwhich should install12:30
debkadone of them is a ghost12:30
Ben64crazyadm: neither, use lightdm as someone said earlier12:30
crazyadmwhat is that12:31
Ben64it's lightdm12:31
crazyadmis lightdm official ?12:31
Ben64yep12:31
crazyadmsame as that ubuntu-desktop?12:31
crazyadmthen yes12:31
debkadit is something lighty12:31
Ben64it's not the same as ubuntu-desktop. ubuntu-desktop is a meta package12:31
crazyadmhow to make it to run at boot12:31
debkadbetter for lubuntu but can be for others12:31
yuppiecan someone help me out installing icingaweb2 from a package? it's failing for some weird reason12:31
demetrisgeirha, you have save me half days work with cut pasting12:32
Ben64yuppie: pastebin errors12:32
demetristhanks12:32
yuppieBen64 https://gist.github.com/internaught/ef4e783d2767aecdbe8b6c01a47a9aa012:32
Ben64yuppie: ppas aren't supported12:32
Ben64talk to whoever runs it12:32
yuppielol12:32
debkadcrazyadm: run in the terminal: which lightdm and copy the resulted line and paste it to /etc/X11/default-display-manager12:33
debkadwhen you reboot your system will use it12:33
crazyadmah ok12:33
joeliono, that's not correct way to do it12:34
Keydnsi want a terminal package for emailing through google mail. something very very simple and self explanatory to setup. thanks12:34
debkadjoelio: it can be done with systemd too12:34
ducasseKeydns: alpine is probably the simplest console mail client12:36
Keydnsok ty12:37
crazyadmcan't find terminal in unity12:37
crazyadmlol12:37
Southern_Gentlemcrazyadm,  press the superkey and type terminal12:38
debkadheh12:38
debkadmay be gnome-terminal12:38
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jee1mrctrl+alt+t?12:39
Azluxhi all12:40
EriC^^hi12:40
Azluxis someone here responsable of this page ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo12:41
Azluxthere are a real exploit with this old configuration12:41
Azluxthey need to use this method : https://home.regit.org/netfilter-en/secure-use-of-helpers/12:41
Azluxthe exploit use the helper of iptables :  https://github.com/rtsisyk/linux-iptables-contrack-exploit12:42
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Azluxif the RELATED cstate is used, you need to ad a warning, because we can open port as we want.12:45
Kartagisehlo12:45
Ben64Azlux: would help if you show what to change to what12:45
SillypirateSup , I have 2 boxes running, one with 14.04 and a 16.06 , now the glusterfs tools are at a different version across the releases, how do I correctly install the newer version on the older release ?12:47
Ben64Sillypirate: you don't12:47
Kartagisglxinfo | grep render gives me OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.8, 256 bits). do I need to have intel instead of llvmpipe so that I get full framerate on videos? if yes, how can I do it?12:47
AzluxBen64: the line "sudo iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT" is depreciate, you need to remove the RELATED or add the needed helper one by one.12:47
Azluxof this line will use all helper activate and all helper are activate by default. And that is a real problem12:48
Ben64Azlux: it says above that... " in which case an inferior version can be used as last resort: "12:49
CipherZerodd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb  <—— i can copy all content of storage to usb?12:49
CipherZero[9:44pm]12:49
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AzluxBen64: the line "sudo iptables -A INPUT -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT" will do exactly the same12:49
EriC^^CipherZero: that will copy the whole disk /dev/sda as an image12:50
EriC^^it will clone it12:51
Azluxbecause for ftp for example, you need to add -"-ctstate RELATED -m helper --helper ftp" instead of the RELATED alone12:51
CipherZeroEriC^^: then how can i see usb content?12:52
EriC^^CipherZero: you have to mount it12:52
EriC^^CipherZero: if you just want the content, then copy the files using rsync12:52
SillypirateBen64 is there no supported method for installing newer versions, really ?12:53
ChetManlywill vbox keep my system from powersave?12:53
Ben64Sillypirate: you get the versions that are in the ubuntu repositories, which don't change within a release normally12:54
SillypirateBen64 , ugh so I would have to use an upstream repo or brick my box with a dist-upgrade iiuc12:54
Ben64Sillypirate: dist-upgrade doesn't do what you think it does12:55
SillypirateNah release upgrade12:55
Sillypiratewhatever you ppl call it :P12:55
Ben64dist-upgrade is something you should be doing regularly12:55
SillypirateI usually stay away from debian's , now i remember why12:55
crazyadmwhy12:56
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ChetManlyaptitude ftw13:00
Kartagisglxinfo | grep render gives me OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.8, 256 bits). do I need to have intel instead of llvmpipe so that I get full framerate on videos? if yes, how can I do it?13:01
ahn0sthey13:01
AzluxBen64: so ?13:01
ahn0sthow can i download the ubuntu graphical shell unity and use it for another linux distro?13:02
Ben64Azlux: doesn't seem like a big deal, that post was from 2009, tested on kernels 2.4 and 2.613:02
leo_ciao13:03
ahn0st??13:03
ChetManly!aptitude13:04
ubottuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter multiarch problems on non-updated 12.04 installs, see  http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.13:04
AzluxBen64: I've test it on my VM on the current debian, this configuration can make real problem.  I have open mysql port of all my linux like that13:04
maddawg2ahn0st, i'm not sure you can13:04
tomreynKartagis: the opengl renderer string you got is the expected output for intel (integrated) graphics13:04
ducasseahn0st: install it from the other distro's repos, if it exists13:04
maddawg2pretty sure it doesnt exist on any other repo13:04
ahn0stok, thanks.13:05
maddawg2i know some ppl have tried to build it but it doesnt really work and is a pain13:05
tomreynKartagis: since no special drivers are needed for most intel graphics and 3-d acceleration, chances are you already have that working.13:05
maddawg2ubuntu has a patched version of gnome that allows unity to work13:05
maddawg2which other distros dont have13:05
crazyadmhow to remove package and all its dependencies?13:05
crazyadmwell?13:06
maddawg2i guess you could build it all yourself from scratch but i dont think it's worth the headache personally13:06
ahn0sthmmm, i see.13:07
tomreyncrazyadm: sudo apt-get remove <package>; sudo apt-get autoremove13:07
tomreyncrazyadm: with a default apt configuration, this will remove dependencies which were not manually installed and are no longer needed.13:08
tomreyn(by other packages)13:08
shreddingi created a /etc/init/containers.conf like this: http://pastebin.com/NVvDGsPz13:08
shreddingbut the docker containers do not start after reboot and "service containers start" is not possible.13:08
crazyadmthank you13:09
shreddingam i missing something?13:09
Kartagistomreyn: then what can I do about fps?13:09
ahn0stmaddwag2, http://lubuntu.me/tag/unity/13:10
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tomreynKartagis: you can buy a dedicated video card and use that.13:12
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Kartagistomreyn: the thing is, it was working before I re-installed13:13
tomreynKartagis: you could also try to reduce compositing and graphical effects of your window manager / desktop13:13
tomreynKartagis: which ubuntu version, what's the output of: sudo lspci -knnv | fgrep -A13 VGA13:14
tomreyn!pastebin | Kartagis13:14
ubottuKartagis: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.13:14
workerbeetwoHey. Id like to get a file from an sftp server from a bashscript. There is serveral ways, but what would you prefer?13:15
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Sillypiratescp + ssh keys13:15
Kartagistomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23233511/13:16
tomreynKartagis: please also run this and see whether you lack any drivers: software-properties-gtk --open-tab=413:17
Sillypirateworkerbeetwo well rsync would be a better choice though13:17
Kartagishttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11918318/Screenshot%20from%202016-09-26%2016%3A18%3A59.png13:20
Kartagistomreyn: ^13:20
pseudo_hi guys. i was a bit careless with my text editor and overwrote an important file. I would like to try recovering the previous version of the file, but am having some trouble navigating the /home encryption that the file was stored in13:21
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pseudo_can I run grep against the pseudo block device of the unencrypted home slice? df -h only shows me that it's mounted from the .Private folder, and I don't see anything in /dev/mapper13:21
ducassepseudo_: ecryptfs doesn't use the device mapper13:22
pseudo_where can I find the block device for an encrypted /home partition? can I dd the unencrypted contents to another file?13:22
soskoHey13:23
soskowelcom to linux13:24
ducassepseudo_: no block device, the contents of an overwritten file are gone.13:24
tomreynKartagis: so i guess it's probably working fine. what makes you think it's slower now than it used to be?13:24
Kartagistomreyn: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11918318/video.gif13:25
pseudo_ducasse: everything I know about filesystems and crypto says that recovery should be possible. is there something specific about ecryptfs that makes you say that?13:25
ducassepseudo_: yes, it's a fuse fs (or something similar), the file would have been overwritten immediately afaik.13:26
Kartagistomreyn: this is what every video looks like13:29
workerbeetwoSillypirate: how would I use rsync on a sftp server?13:29
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tomreynKartagis: downloading a 6 MB file at the 32 KB/sec transfer rate the server appears to be limited to will take a while.13:30
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tomreynKartagis: so the issue is about video playback. it doesn't need to be an issue with graphics acceleration. maybe you just lack good support for this video format.13:32
Kartagistomreyn: happens with any video13:33
avid_fanworkerbeetwo: I believe you'd use "-e ssh", e.g. rsync -avP -e ssh <SOURCE> jdough@remote.host:<DEST>13:33
Chunkyzhow can I run sudo without keep entering my password?13:34
ikoniachange the sudo policy for that user/group13:35
Frede___I'm having some strange issues with my network. Randomly / periodically I lose the ability to look outside my LAN on my server, it seems. I have two computers - a pc and a server. I'm ssh'ing into the server from my pc. This ssh connection stays up at all times. When I try to download something from the internet it works alright. Suddenly it stops working. Running "sudo dhclient eth0" makes it work again, until it stops working some 5 minutes later. It's incre13:35
tomreynKartagis: http://askubuntu.com/questions/656762/how-to-install-common-media-codecs13:36
Kartagistomreyn: I have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras13:37
tomreynKartagis: if you think it is an issue with graphics acceleration (and not just media codecs) you can also run 'glxgears' from a terminal and see the values it reports for FPS.13:37
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asdffff?13:37
tomreynKartagis: i'm sorry but i got to go, please consider to repeat your question and sum up the findings so far so someone else can look into it more with you.13:38
Kartagisokay thanks13:38
Keydnsi am having trouble setting up alpine with gmail. anyone have any ideas?13:39
ducasseKeydns: you need to allow access from other clients in your gmail setup13:40
Keydnsi have done that, i think the problem is the inbox patch. what do i do with that?13:40
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Keydnsi am getting a SMTP greeting failure: 421 SMTP connection broken (reply).13:51
k__we can do something?13:52
urainhello13:53
Keydnsi am getting a SMTP greeting failure: 421 SMTP connection broken (reply).13:54
k__i want to hack library,everybody give me ,,,,,,,,,,,ways?13:55
urain.....13:56
SchrodingersScathello13:56
urain问一下有人会中文吗?没有就算了13:56
SchrodingersScat!jp | urain13:56
ubottuurain: 日本語の場合は /join #ubuntu-jp または /join #kubuntu-jp を入力して下さい。13:56
urain.....13:56
urainChinese。。。。13:57
SchrodingersScat!cn | urain13:57
ubottuurain: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw13:57
urainThanks...13:57
ducassek__: 'hack library'?13:57
SchrodingersScat!illegal | k__13:57
ubottuk__: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o13:57
k__yeah,can you help me13:58
avid_fanKeydns: iirc, 421 is a temporary error on the other server end. Have you tried to connect to the remote server directly?13:59
AimlessRavenhi all, i have ubuntu 14.04 and play league of legends. When i have windows i have 70+ fps14:04
smicheI have a script that does kill -9 $(<"/home/obadmin/deploy/pid.txt") but output says that I'm using it wrong14:05
AimlessRavennow i use ubuntu 14.04 with playonlinux14:05
AimlessRavenand my fps dont go more than 4014:05
smicheIt's pretty normal for games to perform worse on linux, at least from my experience. Generally bad driver support and emulation of windows libraries slow it down.14:05
AimlessRavensmiche:  (y)14:06
smicheare you using xorg or proprietary?14:06
AimlessRavensmiche:  no wine with playonlinux14:06
smicheI meant for graphics drivers.14:07
AimlessRavensmiche:  i use my nvidia14:07
AimlessRavendrivers14:07
smichewell I don't have any ideas14:08
smicheyou can try enabling color-blind mode for a few extra fps14:10
AimlessRavensmiche:  where i can enable color-blind mode14:11
smichein game options for league of legends :p14:11
smichealso try different settings around, windowed/borderless etc14:11
smichefound my problem, seems like sudo sh & sudo bash are a bit different14:14
ubuntumatei have a question about your nicknames14:16
ubuntumateis there any possibility that you intended to give yourself meaningful names?14:16
\9smiche: sh is not bash, but dash14:17
crazyadmso ubuntu server is quite easy14:17
smicheIt doesn't switch if I provide #!/usr/bin/env bash ? well apparently it doesn't because it didn't work :d14:18
DArqueBishop!ot | ubuntumate14:18
ubottuubuntumate: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:18
\9smiche: the shebang is used by the kernel to figure out which command to use when the file is executed14:19
crazyadmis there channel about ubuntu server14:19
\9smiche: if you expressly say "sh something" then the kernel will use sh, because that's what you told it to14:19
smicheoh I see now, it would also be nice if sudo ./script.sh could figure out what to run it with too14:20
yuppiesudo add-apt-repository ppa:formorer/icinga14:20
yuppiedoes this fail on anyone else's machine?14:20
\9smiche: it does figure that out14:21
smichedoesn't seem to work with me14:21
yuppiesite it down!14:22
yuppiehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas14:22
ioria!info icinga14:23
ubottuicinga (source: icinga): host and network monitoring system - metapackage. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.13.3-2 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 9 kB14:23
yuppieicinga2 bby ;)14:23
yuppielaunchpad is down so14:23
yuppiethats why14:23
yuppie!info icinga214:23
ubottuicinga2 (source: icinga2): host and network monitoring system. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4.1-2ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 6 kB, installed size 28 kB14:23
yuppie!info icingaweb214:23
ubottuicingaweb2 (source: icingaweb2): simple and responsive web interface for Icinga. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.1.0-1ubuntu1.1 (xenial), package size 708 kB, installed size 3682 kB14:23
bobslaw-skillwithttp://i.imgur.com/hqo3ZSz.jpg14:23
ubuntumatecrazyadm/ may i ask who you were talking with?14:24
Exterminadorhello guys. i'm using xubuntu. does anyone knows any good vps system that works via ethernet? thanks14:24
Exterminadoror how can set the entire system to use my vps as a proxy.14:25
crazyadmyou, i was talking with you14:25
ubuntumatei join this channel and see some messages that confused me14:25
ubuntumatereally ? plz don't play joke with me ,i am in trouble14:25
smicheExterminador: Check out OpenVPN or VPN in general.14:25
crazyadmwhat trouble14:26
crazyadmim serious, no joke14:26
Exterminadorsmiche: openvpn requires profiles14:26
crazyadmi was and am talking to you14:26
DArqueBishopcrazyadm: try #ubuntu-server.14:26
crazyadmalready there14:26
smicheI think you can also configure it for groups, but is that a problem for you?14:27
Exterminadorand this is a must have for me, as i'm using a public hotspot and even irc is blocked.. i've set HexCHat to use my vps as proxy.14:28
Exterminadori'd like to know if i can force the system to use it also14:28
yuppiecrazyadm just start all over, with an install of ubuntu-desktop14:28
Exterminadoras a global system proxy14:28
smichemaybe this might help? http://askubuntu.com/a/46601114:29
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DArqueBishopExterminador: I would second the call for OpenVPN, personally.14:30
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Exterminadori cannot install openvpn on my vps. this is how i've done to use my vps as a proxy: ssh -p 22 -D 1080 user@host14:31
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Exterminadorthen i've set up the proxy on Hexchat on 127.0.0.1 and port 108014:32
ubuntumatecrazyada,ni ren shi wo?14:32
rypervencheExterminador: If you can't install a real VPN, then you will only be able to use the SSH socks5 proxy with programs that support socks5 proxies.14:32
smicheor perhaps turn your vps in a router, if that's even a thing14:33
Exterminadorsmiche: i cant do nothing on the vps. itś a rented vps14:33
smicheI can give you a 2month vps account if you need it so urgently :D14:34
smichegot 40 spare14:34
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smichedo you have a router at home?14:35
rypervencheubuntumate: Please see my private message.14:35
Exterminadorsmiche: nope. i use the phone as a wired connection14:35
Exterminadorthe hotspot is from FON and it have an mobile app that keeps u connected14:36
Exterminadorfor a lil monthly fee14:36
smichewell I'm out of ideas14:36
Exterminadorĩn windows im able to use hotspotshield14:37
Exterminadorbut i dont find any look alike to linux14:37
Exterminador:X14:37
Exterminadoror i'm too dumb, wich is porlly the best option14:37
Exterminadori have xubuntu ate 2-3 months.. and never used linux in my entire life14:38
Exterminador*at14:38
Exterminadoronly the vps and its like the datacenter configured it14:39
Exterminadornever touched it14:39
smicheif you want to visit blocked sites in your country you can use chrome proxy plugins, if you want traffic security use the hotspot with wpa2 and some 20+ symbol password, can use TOR as well, but those only forward web traffic14:39
smichealso perhaps this http://askubuntu.com/questions/6853/is-there-a-free-vpn-service-that-works-on-ubuntu14:40
Exterminadorsmiche: i'll take a look into that14:41
smichegood luck, I'm going home14:41
AimlessRavenis the important which version of nvidia drivers i use in additional drivers for best  fps in league of legends14:41
smicheAimlessRaven: It's pretty random from my experience, I'd give all of them a try if I was desperate14:42
backboxHi14:42
backbox.-14:42
AimlessRavensmiche:  y14:42
BluesKajAimlessRaven:  use the recommended driver14:42
avid_fanExterminador: From here, https://goo.gl/ypFJzK, I found a link to sshuttle, https://github.com/apenwarr/sshuttle/. I've not tried this so ymmv.14:43
smicheany ways I've given up on gaming on linux, just dual-boot14:43
backboxanyone play league of legends14:43
backboxM14:43
avid_fanExterminador: but it might be a way to tunnel everything through ssh14:43
Exterminadori need that to stream to a webradio14:43
Exterminador:D14:43
ducasse!backbox | backbox14:43
ubottubackbox: Backbox Linux is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu and is thus not supported in #ubuntu. Please use #backbox on irc.autistici.org or https://forum.backbox.org/ for help with it.14:43
AimlessRavenbackbox: you play lol in ubuntu ?14:44
backboxyes14:44
backboxwhyM14:44
backbox?14:44
AimlessRavenbackbox:  do you have problem with fps ?14:44
backboxyes14:44
AimlessRavenme 214:44
backbox60fps14:44
backboxlol14:44
AimlessRaven60 is good in battle14:44
AimlessRaveni have 3014:44
backboxbut14:44
AimlessRavenin battles :D14:45
backbox30 in teamfight14:45
AimlessRavenbackbox:  im same :(14:45
backboxwhich regionM14:45
AimlessRavennordic east14:45
backboxeuw?14:45
AimlessRaveneune14:45
backboxah14:45
crazyadminstallation stage, how to adjust each partition space, i need /boot at sda1 sda2 as vg, vg-root and vg-swap14:46
crazyadmhow do i do that14:46
AimlessRavenbackbox:  what version of nvidia drivers you use ?14:46
backboxIntel*14:46
backboxnot nvidia14:46
AimlessRavenbackbox:  so you dont have graphic card?14:46
backboxlol14:46
AimlessRavenyou use onboard video14:47
AimlessRaven?14:47
backboxwhat's ur config?14:47
crazyadmit doesn't let me do it14:47
AimlessRaveni go to my fr to play and write you there if your here14:47
Southern_Gentlemcrazyadm, /boot cannot be in a vg14:49
Exterminadorbrb14:50
crazyadmplease watch carefully14:50
crazyadm<crazyadm> installation stage, how to adjust each partition space, i need /boot at sda1 sda2 as vg, vg-root and vg-swap14:50
crazyadmi said /boot at /dev/sda114:50
crazyadmvg as /dev/sda214:50
akikcrazyadm: so what's the problem?14:50
crazyadmi need to adjust it14:51
akikcrazyadm: delete it and start again?14:51
crazyadmnow it gives me 4g swap14:51
crazyadmi need to make it 1.5g14:51
crazyadmand 300MB /boot14:51
crazyadmthe rest for vg-root14:51
avid_fancrazyadm: "adjust"? I'm with akik, can you simply wipe the drive's existing partition setup?14:52
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crazyadmwipe and how to adjust preset size?14:52
akikcrazyadm: use the something else partitioning option14:53
roryIs entropy.ubuntu.com down?14:53
crazyadmhow14:53
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akikcrazyadm: when ubuntu asks you how you want to partition your disk, there's a something else option14:54
* Zardoz_gnoobot waves hi to all14:54
akikcrazyadm: there you can partition your disk how you want14:55
apb1963 I'm getting a permission denied error trying to NFS mount an exported file path.  showmount -e shows it mounted... /proc/fs/nfs/exports is empty, although earlier it had entries.  Restarting server, exportfs had no effect on that file, though showmount seems OK I guess.  ubuntu 16.04 server, debian client.14:55
apb1963##networking is speechless.14:55
ChetManlyanyway to make a irc client stay connected during a crtl-alt-backspace14:56
ducasseChetManly: a gui client? then no. console - tmux.14:56
Zardoz_gnoobotI was trying to install fedora using a live DVD....the space which it shows is 1.68 mb when I try to install it to my hard disk.....there are no partitions to which my root is set to totally 931 gb is set to root.....can anyone help me out with creating the partition14:57
tomreynZardoz_gnoobot: have you noticed that this is a #ubuntu support channel? ;)14:58
Zardoz_gnoobot:P I am confused whether I would have to ask this in fedora or ubuntu14:59
uRockask in both14:59
Zardoz_gnoobotas ubuntu is pre-installed I gave preference to ubuntu14:59
Zardoz_gnoobotlol14:59
tomreynyou want to install fedora, so ask on their channel15:00
tomreynplease :)15:00
uRockZardoz_gnoobot, is the question about configuring the boot menu?15:00
roryIs entropy.ubuntu.com down? I can't "telnet entropy.ubuntu.com 443" and this is causing all my EC2 instances to fail to start.15:00
roryI can't telnet from anywhere, that is, it's not just me messing up a firewall in AWS.15:01
Zardoz_gnoobotyes uRock15:01
uRockZardoz_gnoobot, If you want to keep ubuntu as the first option in grub, then reconfigure it after installing Fedora, Fedora is most likely going to overwrite grub during install.15:02
tomreynrory: looks like it is down. package.ubuntu.com is down, too. they seem to be behind the same firewall.15:02
\9yeah doesn't work for me eithe15:02
\9r15:02
Zardoz_gnoobotok.....so should I back up all my data15:03
Zardoz_gnoobotor straightaway install15:03
tomreynrory: /join #canonical-sysadmin15:04
uRockZardoz_gnoobot, It is always a good idea to back up pertinent data before doing anything that involves partitioning.15:04
Zardoz_gnoobotohh ok15:04
Zardoz_gnoobotthanks a lot15:05
DArqueBishopMore to the point, the answer to "should I back up all my data?" is always YES, unless of course the data is expendable.15:05
uRockno problem15:05
uRockOnce installed, you can get help with configuring grub on either channel, though it is best to ask in the channel representing the OS you are using while doing the configuration.15:05
uRockDArqueBishop, truth15:06
L-ChymeraHi guys, who builds all the binaries for apt? Is each version of each software only built once on one machine and copied from there, or could it be that people in different places or at different times get binaries for the same version of the same software but compiled on different machines or at different times?15:09
ikoniaL-Chymera: it's a build infrastructure15:10
BluesKajL-Chymera:  you can get a quick answer in #ubuntu-devel15:11
ikoniano he can't15:11
ikoniaubuntu-devel is for the core development15:11
BluesKajwell they would surely know15:12
L-Chymeraikonia: so, can you tell me more about that? how does this process work?15:13
ppfL-Chymera: there's a cloud running package jobs15:13
L-Chymerappf: and it only packages one version of one software once?15:14
ppfwell, everytime someone tells it to15:14
ppffor every version and every software15:15
AnticomHi all. I'm using cmp to compare an image from my build dir to the copy i just wrote to SD card. However i keep getting 'cmp: EOF on <path>' is there any way cmp can ignore this?15:15
ppfthat's how build/package/deploy infrastructures work15:15
L-Chymeraor if I install e.g. amarok-2.8.0 today and a friend of mine from australia installed it 3 months ago, those files might actually have been compiled at different times? (and may not be bit-identical)?15:15
ppftheoretically yes15:16
L-Chymerappf: but doesn't apt check for a checksum? or is it possible that the cloud also updates that checksum?15:16
ppfbut rebuilds usually are rare (i can only imagine the cause being compiler or pacakge tool fixes/updates)15:16
ppfof course it updates the checksums15:17
skinuxIs there a way I can download fresh copies of Apache configs for version 16.10?15:17
skinuxOr 16.04 I mean15:17
ikoniaL-Chymera: I suggest you read how deb packages are built and have deb repos are managed15:18
ikoniaL-Chymera: that will answer most of the questions you are asking and will ask15:18
ppfskinux: reinstall it with -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confmiss"15:18
ppfand for the future i recommend some bookkeeping, e.g. etckeeper15:18
teknomegahi all15:20
teknomegawhere does ubuntu 16.04 autostart syndaemon ?15:20
idokohow can i force the wifi hotspot option on ubuntu to be wpa15:20
idokoinstead of wep15:20
teknomegai can't find where it does this by itself.. i need to change those options15:21
ppfteknomega: with systemd i presume15:21
teknomegappf, syndaemon is an app15:21
teknomegappf, for trackpad disable durring typing15:21
msev--(msev--) would like to install ubuntu gnome alongside Win7 https://imgur.com/rKjWma3 on the 2tb disk. Can someone guide me please15:23
L-Chymeraikonia: ppf: thanks :)15:23
ppfmsev--: please google that, there's a truckload of guides on this out there15:23
ppfteknomega: don't know it, but the "daemon" part sounds suspicioulsy like a daemon15:24
msev--Cmon ppf im worried that im gonna delete everything :)15:25
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teknomegappf, it is a daemon that runs for X only...15:25
ppfmsev--: so will be most of the guides15:25
ppfmsev--: also please back up your data15:26
* Exterminador is testing a ame!15:27
rexwin_!addppa15:30
ubottuA !ppa can be added using a single command «  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details15:30
blzHello, how can I redirect /dev/null to stdin AND redirect stdout/err to /dev/null in a single command?  I know how to do them individually (some_cmd < /dev/null and some_cmd &>/dev/null, respectively) but how do I do *both* ?15:32
blzThis is in bash, of course15:32
EriC^^blz: have you tried somecmd </dev/null &> /dev/null15:33
blzEriC^^, I have not, but if it really is that simple, I might just hug you15:33
rightonyourtailhi all. Using the i3 wm I can't get pidgin to show up as a tray icon. In unity I noticed that it appears in the top grouped with other messengers. Is that a particular utility like network manager that might have an i3 applet?15:33
EriC^^:D15:33
* blz hugs EriC^^ 15:34
EriC^^:D15:34
ducasserightonyourtail: ypu might need to use the tray_output option in the bar {} section of your config. see the i3 userguide.15:40
rightonyourtailI have tray_output set to primary and primary is set to my screen. Indeed hexchat and other appear in the tray as icons.15:45
rightonyourtailIt's just pidgin that won't.15:45
ducasserightonyourtail: if you get other tray icons that sounds like a problem with pidgin settings.15:46
darkdrgn2khi15:48
darkdrgn2kis there an equivelent to "windows explorer" in ubuntu , somethign i can just type in UNC paths into?15:48
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repozitori have many service in my server, mail, file, web, …15:54
repozitoris there exist any open and free project to get proper backup from those service?15:55
ikoniayou mean free storage ?15:55
ikoniaor free software to help you do it15:55
uRockdarkdrgn2k, can't you do that in nautilus by clicking Connect to Server?15:55
repozitorikonia, no, i mean web based app to do that.15:56
darkdrgn2kbutlike even getting a list of shares would be nice15:56
ikoniarepozitor: tar will work for most situations15:56
uRockdarkdrgn2k, I type in "smb://IPAddress"15:57
darkdrgn2ktype in where?15:57
repozitorikonia, i think tar can be used for compressing and decompressing. so this tool can't get auto backup from those service15:57
uRockI've had issues with network shares not showing for quite some time15:57
ikoniarepozitor: what ?15:57
ikoniarepozitor: tar is fine for backups15:58
uRockdarkdrgn2k, click on Connect to Server in Nautilus15:58
repozitorikonia, you mean tar with cron jobs?15:58
k1ldarkdrgn2k: the nautilus (file explorer on ubuntu) supports that15:58
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k1ldarkdrgn2k: open it, click on "network" in the left list15:59
darkdrgn2kk1l: doesnt enumarate it all15:59
uRockdarkdrgn2k, you can see me doing that in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB6MTFQhi7o&feature=youtu.be15:59
repozitorany idea?15:59
k1ldarkdrgn2k: that will list all availbale shares in your network16:00
k1ldarkdrgn2k: you need to be more specific if that is not what you want16:00
darkdrgn2kk1l: it does not16:00
darkdrgn2kk1l: i have a netbook runnign windows xp on my network and it doesnt even show the workgroup its in16:00
darkdrgn2kk1l: but i can smbclient into it no problem16:00
repozitorikonia, did you mentioned to this?16:01
repozitorhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR16:01
darkdrgn2kk1l: so in windows id just type in \\192.168.1.52  and it would list all the shares on that machine16:01
k1ldarkdrgn2k: that is an issue of that netbook announcing it to the network16:01
darkdrgn2kk1l: maybe its selective then and not announding it to non windows machines :-P16:01
uRockdarkdrgn2k, An update seems to have broken that functionality, I haven't been able to search shares on my network for about two weeks.16:01
k1ldarkdrgn2k: you can do that with "connect to server" from the menu16:02
darkdrgn2kyeh.. but i gatta specify the share16:02
darkdrgn2kand its just a few more clicks :/16:02
darkdrgn2k(gawd swiching from windows to nix as a primary os is so hard :-P)16:02
madwizarddarkdrgn2k: The feeling is similar the other way :)16:03
k1ldarkdrgn2k: well, dont use windows protocols here :)16:03
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darkdrgn2kk1l: canot not use them :/ to many things are windows-only16:03
darkdrgn2kk1l: besides the netwook is just connected to my 3d printer and i really dont want to deal with swiching it to nix...16:04
ioriadarkdrgn2k, you don't need the sharename... just the ip, it'll open in nautilus, then you mount the share16:04
darkdrgn2knope..... doesnt work...16:05
darkdrgn2kjust "connecting"16:05
darkdrgn2kworks fine with share name16:05
ioriadarkdrgn2k,  smb://ip16:06
darkdrgn2ki also cnat figure out why windows looks a little "smoother" almost.. while nix seems a little harsher... i donno how to explain it16:07
k1ldarkdrgn2k: i guess the main issue is that you are used to the windows-way. so everything different feels/looks , well, different.16:08
darkdrgn2kk1l: naa its somethign differnt i just cant put my finger on it..16:08
ioriadarkdrgn2k,  you can use also cifs-utils and sudo mount -t cifs //remote  /locale16:08
darkdrgn2ki knw the CLEAR TYPE is differnt between windows and nix)16:09
darkdrgn2kioria: i i can even smbclietn in but i was justr tying to figure out the gui way to do it nice and quick..16:09
akikdarkdrgn2k: there's a gui for smb/cifs mount, smb4k16:09
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acresearchhello people, i have a strange question. if i connect through VPN does my IP address changes?16:17
darkdrgn2kacresearch: kinda...  you usually gain a new ip address16:18
darkdrgn2kacresearch: but honestly it depends what you mean by your question :-P16:18
acresearchdarkdrgn2k: well, i connect using openconnect in the terminal, when i check my IP before and after on firefox ti remains the same16:19
darkdrgn2kso you are asking if your EXTERNAL IP changes16:19
darkdrgn2kthe answer is NO.16:19
acresearchdarkdrgn2k: oh,16:19
darkdrgn2kand Technically no16:19
darkdrgn2kyour "external ip" is the router where all internet traffic is routed to16:20
k1lacresearch: does firefox use that vpn?16:20
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acresearchk1l: no i connect from terminal16:20
acresearchi am just trying to understand what is going on16:20
darkdrgn2kif you want to "changes your exetperanl ip" that is to access the internet from a differnt ip address you need to route your traffic OVER the vpn to the router on the other side16:20
k1lacresearch: acresearch if you guide all the traffic through the vpn then it should change the ip. to the external one from the vpn.16:20
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darkdrgn2kso your default gateway has to be pointing over the vpn, not back to your router16:20
darkdrgn2kbut becarefull not to redirect yoru VPN server as part of that as you will simply disconnect from the vpn then16:21
acresearchdarkdrgn2k: k1l hmmmm so if i connect through the built in ubuntu VPN that should rout all my traffic though the VPN, but if i connect through terminal where does the vpn traffic goes from?16:22
darkdrgn2kacresearch: its a question of how the VPN is set up16:22
k1lacresearch: you are connecting to another vpn server, right? not to your router16:23
darkdrgn2kacresearch: some vpn software have the ability to re-write your routing table to send traffic over the vpn16:23
acresearchk1l: yes another server16:23
k1lacresearch: why dont you use the network-manager to use that vpn?16:23
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acresearchk1l: well, i am registered with a cisco VPN to access services in my university. i could only connect through the terminal (openconnect) i could not get it to work through the built in ubuntu VPN client. then i realised that the IP address does not change, i know i successfully connected beause i can use the campus only e-services. so i just wanted to understand what is going on16:25
acresearchdo i have two connections?16:25
k1lacresearch: the NM can use the universities cisco setup. ( at least that is what i do).16:25
darkdrgn2kacresearch: it all depends on how things are setup on the VPN...  even if you tell all traffic to go over the VPN doesnt mean the other side can router that traffic correctly (for example if not setup to NAT the traffic)16:26
acresearchk1l: i could not get it to work, i remember there was an issue, but i forgot its details, something with the encryption or something. then i tried openconnect and it worked perfectly, the only issue is that openconnect is slow16:26
acresearchdarkdrgn2k: hmmm16:27
k1lacresearch: there is network-manager-vpnc(-gnome)16:27
acresearchk1l: i am on unity16:27
darkdrgn2kunity is layred on top of gnome iirc16:28
k1lacresearch: unity is based on gnome.16:28
darkdrgn2kor somethign to do with gonme :-P16:28
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acresearchk1l: darkdrgn2k ok let me try it16:28
crazyadmis unity gnome?16:29
darkdrgn2kcrazyadm: its a fork of it16:29
k1lacresearch: if you do it manually you maybe need to tell firefox to use the vpn, too. look into its settings16:29
k1lcrazyadm: yes. its another gnome-shell.16:29
acresearchk1l: darkdrgn2k network > add > VPN > PPTP > IP > username&password16:29
darkdrgn2kunity was originaly designed for cromebooks if i rememer correctly16:30
darkdrgn2kor rather netbook edition of r ubuntu 1016:30
k1ldarkdrgn2k: the unity now doesnt have anything in common with that netbook edition16:31
darkdrgn2kk1l: yes but as i said "originaly designed for"16:31
acresearchk1l: darkdrgn2k i get failed connection16:31
darkdrgn2kbut it got forked cause gnome rejected them :-P16:31
acresearchk1l: darkdrgn2k i tried it before, i think cisco uses some propriety encryption that is not found in ubuntu by default16:32
darkdrgn2kcisco vpns are black magic.. gimem GRE tunnels over the magical IP SEC transport any say!16:32
darkdrgn2kday!16:32
k1lacresearch: do you have network-manager-vpnc-gnome installed?16:32
acresearchk1l: i don't think so i just installed a fresh ubuntu, if it is not in by default then i do not have it16:33
acresearchk1l: sudo apt-get?16:33
k1lacresearch: so this is supposed to not work16:33
k1lthat is why i named you now twice the exact package name you need16:33
acresearchk1l: ok let me install it,16:34
acresearchk1l: installed, now i just try again?16:35
Pr0Xyywho here hacks16:35
darkdrgn2kPr0Xyy: all the time....16:35
elisa87hi have I appended this path correctly? export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/jalal/computer_vision/MCR/v901/runtime/glnxa64:/home/jalal/computer_vision/MCR/v901/bin/glnxa64:/home/jalal/computer_vision/MCR/v901/sys/os/glnxa64:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH"16:35
elisa87in ~/.bashrc16:35
darkdrgn2kif yuo mean Hacking in the community way not the criminal one....16:35
acresearchdarkdrgn2k: how do you hack in the community way?16:36
acresearchk1l: faield connection16:36
darkdrgn2kacresearch: there are two defenitions of hackers.. the one that holywood portrays (also knows as CRIMINALS) and the way the hacker community comes to gether and actualy IS...16:37
gtxbbelisa87, by default that var is empty, so appending :$LD_LIBRARY_PATH won't make a difference16:37
k1lacresearch: do you have your universities certificates?16:37
darkdrgn2kacresearch: sadly everyone only knmows of the criminal aspect of it..16:37
acresearchk1l: no16:37
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DArqueBishopHonestly, the whole "hacker/cracker" definition war was lost long ago. It's pretty safe to assume that if someone is asking about hacking, they're talking about what used to be called cracking.16:39
acresearchDArqueBishop: tell us more about the community16:39
teknomegahi all16:39
darkdrgn2kDArqueBishop: well if someone is asking about hacking like "who here hacks" most likly a script kiddie!16:39
teknomegahow does ubuntu 16.04 start syndaemon ?16:40
teknomegai can't find it anywhere .. but it autostarts it16:40
darkdrgn2kDArqueBishop: BUT there is a huge community of hackers out there that are not criminals..16:40
BluesKajwhite hat "hacker"16:41
darkdrgn2kBluesKaj: not even..16:41
darkdrgn2kBluesKaj: white hat are Pen Test professionals basically16:41
BluesKajor looking for a job16:41
teknomegaits all BS16:42
teknomegaevery good hacker works for the EPA in the US16:42
acresearchdarkdrgn2k: still i don't get it what does a community hacker does?16:42
k1l!ot16:42
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:42
naccteknomega: it appears to come from xserver-xorg-input-synaptics -- i'm guessing eitehr the xorg.conf or the udev rule starts it16:42
teknomegaoffically they work for the EPA...16:42
teknomeganacc, thanks16:42
darkdrgn2kacresearch: not so much a "community hacker" but rather the hacking community16:42
elisa87gtxbb:  what is correct way to do this? export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/jalal/computer_vision/MCR/v901/runtime/glnxa64:/home/jalal/computer_vision/MCR/v901/bin/glnxa64:/home/jalal/computer_vision/MCR/v901/sys/os/glnxa64:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH"16:42
DArqueBishopSorry, k1l.16:42
darkdrgn2kacresearch: you know there are hacker confrences and stuff right?16:43
naccelisa87: that's 'correct'. what is not working for you?16:43
BluesKajthe US isn't the center of the universe , don't forget that ;-)16:43
acresearchdarkdrgn2k: whaaaat? what do they talk about?16:43
naccdarkdrgn2k: acresearch: the !ot blurb was directed at you, as well16:43
elisa87I didn't say it is not working I am double checking nacc16:43
gtxbbelisa87, you can use that, but I am out of the question in knowing if that actually fixes anything you're trying to fix16:43
darkdrgn2kacresearch: last one just passed in new york in july16:43
acresearchdarkdrgn2k: wow16:43
naccelisa87: yes, you gave no context, however, so given this is the support channel...16:44
amagoraHello I am needing some support with my GUI16:44
darkdrgn2kthere is even a magazine out there sold in allot of stores (like chapters/indego and stuff) called 260016:44
amagoraI recently tried the shortcut Ctrl+alt+S which does shaders control roll up16:44
k1ldarkdrgn2k: please put the chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic to keep this channel clear for support16:45
amagorahow ever it bugged my alt tab command between windows16:45
teknomeganacc, i couldn't find anything referencing syndaemon in those locations16:45
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naccteknomega: either /lib/udev/rules.d/66-xorg-synaptics-quirks.rules or /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf or /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/51-synaptics-quirks.conf ?16:46
darkdrgn2kk1l: sorry im done16:46
amagoraWhen ever i switch between windows now it brings up the window I want but does not make it the active window16:46
naccteknomega: i'm just guessing based upon the file listing int he package16:46
teknomeganacc, checked all of those and nothing references it16:46
teknomeganacc, i know it should.. but it doesn't16:46
teknomeganacc, for some reason a fresh install of starts this --> syndaemon -i 1.0 -t -K -R16:47
teknomeganacc, i need it to read syndaemon -i 0.4 -t -K16:47
teknomegano -R or it won't work16:47
amagoraIf there is anyone with knowledge of what is going on with my GUI and shortcut commands please let me know.16:48
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darkdrgn2klast thing im gonna say on the subject.. Watch Corry Doctoro talk from hope (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1D7APjmVbk) hes workign with the EFF on a 10 year mission to kill off DRM once and for all!!!!!16:49
naccteknomega: hrm, not sure, sorry16:51
Polymorphismhow can I develop C# windows forms apps under linux?16:55
darkdrgn2kOMG this pr0xxy guy is halarious..16:56
darkdrgn2kPolymorphism: yeh check out MONO its the .net port for linux16:56
PolymorphismI looked it up but I wasn16:56
darkdrgn2kPolymorphism: you can even run windows .net apps using mono (to some extent)16:56
Polymorphismok this sounds like exactly what I need16:56
Polymorphismdo you know if there is a live USB with it preloaded16:56
darkdrgn2kPolymorphism: just remembver that things like the file system is differnt.16:57
darkdrgn2kPolymorphism: not of the top of my head but you could always install nix on a pen drive  :)16:57
PolymorphismI'll try that now16:57
darkdrgn2kPolymorphism: or run it in a virtual machine..16:59
darkdrgn2kPolymorphism: that way you dont have to "reboot" to get into it16:59
darkdrgn2kPolymorphism: vmware player i think will do that and its free iirc16:59
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PolymorphismI will try that as well17:04
Polymorphismwell I need it for a school pc17:04
darkdrgn2kPolymorphism: install it on a home computer then vnc in :-P17:05
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Polymorphismdarkdrgn2k, remote desktop?17:08
PolymorphismI just want a live usb solution with persistence I can bring17:08
PolymorphismI juwt put win7 on one17:08
Polymorphismbut it is slow as molasses17:08
Polymorphism(in jan)17:08
darkdrgn2kPolymorphism: live cd or usb?17:08
Polymorphismusb17:08
darkdrgn2kPolymorphism: if you want fast.. get a sold state external drive17:09
Polymorphismthey cripple the school pcs with bloatware slow hardware and deep freeze17:09
Polymorphismso I want to bring my own OS to the computer17:09
Polymorphismsince we have to do the work there17:09
darkdrgn2kPolymorphism: if they have ESATA your lafin17:09
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PolymorphismI'll have to check17:09
darkdrgn2kusb 3.0 is good to17:10
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DArqueBishopPolymorphism: you may want to make sure that's even allowed, first.17:10
darkdrgn2kusb 2.0 is inherintly slow..17:10
darkdrgn2kbut other otpin is VNC or NX of a server you run at home :)17:10
darkdrgn2kthat way your 100% unrestricted17:10
th0rmost school/business won't allow alternate OS or external access (vnc/nx/etc)17:11
Polymorphism??17:11
Polymorphismit's allowed17:11
Polymorphismtrust me17:11
DArqueBishopdarkdrgn2k: that's assuming that the school firewall will allow that. Given how locked down the PCs are, I wouldn't assume it.17:11
Polymorphismmy issues are technical here17:11
darkdrgn2kth0r:  yeh but there is always way around that17:11
darkdrgn2kth0r: SSH runnign on port 53 :-P17:11
darkdrgn2k+ tunneling lOL17:11
darkdrgn2kworks wonders!17:11
Polymorphismindeed17:11
Polymorphismbut I dont want to run their OS17:12
PolymorphismI need to boot a live USB17:12
chetanyone know how to fix mouse wheel scrolling jumping17:12
PolymorphismSATA I cant assume is an option17:12
gtxbbPolymorphism, not sure what you're after here, but your pc's over there would be "locked" into not booting anything from usb17:12
chetin virtualbox17:12
Polymorphismthat's not true17:12
PolymorphismI can boot live usb on all of them17:12
Polymorphismin all the rooms17:12
Polymorphismand have been for over a year17:12
gtxbbthen it's probably sessioning over pxe/nfs networking17:12
darkdrgn2ki had an openvpn server running on port udp 53 that i tunnled from my laptop .. plp coudltn understand how i had unrestricted access to everyting and they didnt :)17:12
naccPolymorphism: we don't know what is true or not in your environment. What is your actual issue?17:12
DArqueBishopdarkdrgn2k: there may be technical ways around it, but like the name says, it's only "technical". Most companies I know of look VERY dimly at people trying to get around their restrictions.17:13
Polymorphismnacc, I can only get the work done in the classroom, the pcs are too slow to do it17:13
DArqueBishop(As well hey should. Their equipment, their connection, their rules.)17:13
Polymorphismdarkdrgn2k,17:13
PolymorphismDArqueBishop,17:13
darkdrgn2kDArqueBishop: yes but thats the diff between companies and schools17:13
Polymorphismreadjust mindset17:13
Polymorphismyour world, your rules17:13
darkdrgn2kDArqueBishop: ppl at "work" wont be trying to hack their own servers17:13
naccPolymorphism: please stay ontopic17:13
Polymorphismgot it17:13
naccdarkdrgn2k: you too, again.17:13
darkdrgn2kDArqueBishop: ppl at "school" will do nothing BUT hack their server17:13
naccPolymorphism: so the pcs are slow, you're booting a live usb?17:14
chetanyone know how to fix my mouse wheel scroll from jumping all over the place on web page17:14
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naccPolymorphism: not sure what the problem is, if the pcs are just slow? please give a bit more detail17:14
DArqueBishopOh, to be young and naive.17:14
Polymorphismthey are slow because of the OS17:14
Polymorphismand deep freeze, etc17:14
Polymorphismon my live linux they are fast17:14
Polymorphismbut now we aren't writing portable code17:14
naccPolymorphism: ok -- so, again, what is the problem?17:14
chetactually just keeps going to the top of the page and randomly focusing windows I have open17:15
Polymorphismits windows forms in c#17:15
Polymorphismnaac if you read I said that many times17:15
naccPolymorphism: i just reconnected, so please just restarte17:15
nacc*restate17:15
darkdrgn2knacc: the issue was actualy C# in nix.... which grew to a live cd... which i suggested a USB live cd and install mono on it17:15
Polymorphismneed to develop and test windows forms C# applicastions using linux live USB17:16
darkdrgn2klive usb instead of a live cs17:16
Polymorphismjust something to get me through this class17:16
darkdrgn2kbut not live. actually install the os on the stick :-P17:16
Polymorphismwe are talking 3 minutes to open firefox17:16
Polymorphism4-5 minutes to boot17:16
naccPolymorphism: mono is linux's closest thing to c# support, as darkdrgn2k said (and in my understanding)17:16
Polymorphismup to 6 minutes until VS is ready to go17:16
Polymorphismcan I debug with that though?17:16
akikdarkdrgn2k: you can install ubuntu on the stick17:17
Polymorphismrun the app, test the buttons, etc17:17
darkdrgn2kmacc: mono IS linux support for c#,, not the clostes thing iirc microsoft helps with its decelopment.. or they used to17:17
naccPolymorphism: this is all complaining. Let's stick to the topic and discussion of 'develop and test windows C# forms'17:17
Polymorphismand then have it run on a windows machine17:17
naccdarkdrgn2k: fair enough, thanks for the clarification :)17:17
Polymorphismnaac, you confuse enumation of the issues for complaining17:17
Polymorphismbe careful with that17:17
chetPolymorphism: oh my, I cannot stand two second lag from firefox extensions...17:17
naccPolymorphism: you were still discussing how slow windows is to boot, afaict17:17
darkdrgn2kactualy i think the issue is resolved17:17
darkdrgn2kso NEXT: )17:17
Polymorphismchet,17:18
Polymorphism3 minutes to open firefox17:18
PolymorphismI remember that, from HS and ie17:18
Polymorphismthis is 201617:18
Polymorphismnot acceptable17:18
naccPolymorphism: 3 minutes to open firefox under Ubuntu?17:18
Polymorphismunder windows 10 on the school machines17:18
darkdrgn2knacc: hes still complaining about the stock os on the machine17:18
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naccPolymorphism: we don't care about windows. Please stick to *Ubuntu* support issues.17:19
Polymorphismubuntu is fast which is why I'd like to switch17:19
darkdrgn2kPolymorphism: i suggest you just let it lie before you uspet these ppl17:19
ppfthe question i had last night is still unanswered17:19
naccppf: what was the question?17:19
darkdrgn2kppf: unfortunatly we are not telepathic :-P17:19
Polymorphismdarkdrgn2k, that doesnt concern me17:19
Polymorphismmaga17:19
ppfhow can i convert the rasterized parts of a pdf to tif/ppm/png without any loss of quality17:19
ppf(yeah, yeah, i'm a slow typer)17:19
Polymorphismthanks for the help darkdrgn2k , the rest of you diaf17:19
darkdrgn2kppf: extract the data right from the pdf..17:20
chetI have preload on a ssd and its still to long17:20
nicomachusPolymorphism: stop.17:20
darkdrgn2kppf: PDF is nothign more then a container for things..17:20
ppfi know17:20
ppfwhat's the proper tool for that17:20
darkdrgn2kppf: first google result -> <ppf>17:20
darkdrgn2khttp://askubuntu.com/questions/150100/extracting-embedded-images-from-a-pdf17:21
naccppf: i think you can use imagemagick's 'convert' for this, no?17:21
naccor as darkdrgn2k says, you can extract directly, probably17:21
darkdrgn2knacc: imagemagic will render the pdf.. he wants to extract the data without re-rendering17:21
naccdarkdrgn2k: oh i see17:21
ppfdarkdrgn2k: thanks!17:22
ppfnacc: that's what wasn't good enough for me17:22
ppf:)17:22
* darkdrgn2k presses the "that was easy" staples button17:22
ppfdarkdrgn2k: i reformulated the question for you, the way it was in my head before wasn't any good on google17:22
EnemyViolentCan I ask a dumb question?17:23
ppflast night i posed it slightly differently, and a guy got hung up on my formulation because "you can't convert from pdf without losing quality"17:23
ppf:)17:23
nicomachusEnemyViolent: those are usually the only ones I can answer, so please feel free17:24
EnemyViolentIf I've got a relatively modern PC (i5 2500K, 8 GB RAM, GTX 970), will I see performance benefits from using, say, Lubuntu instead of Ubuntu GNOME?17:24
nicomachusvery slight.17:25
ppfdepends on how good you are at spotting them :)17:25
ppfthere'll be little difference17:25
k1lEnemyViolent: that should be fast on both desktops.17:25
BluesKajEnemyViolent:  not really with an i517:25
EnemyViolentHmmm. OK.17:26
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EnemyViolentI think I like XFCE, though.17:32
k1lEnemyViolent: with that hardware you can choose the desktop thats look you like the most.17:33
EnemyViolentIn that case it's between GNOME and XFCE...17:33
EnemyViolentXFCE is the "classic" one I like the best, and GNOME the "modern" one I like the best.17:34
k1lEnemyViolent: its your choice :)  you can install both and switch on the login screen17:35
darkdrgn2kmeh i dont like gnome3.... thas why i went cinnamon :-P17:36
ppfEnemyViolent: there's also a third class: Tiling WMs17:36
ppfif you're nasty :)17:37
darkdrgn2kor just run ratpoison and xterm17:37
darkdrgn2kwait do you still need a WM for focus?17:37
EnemyViolentI think I'm going Xubuntu. Seems like I'll be able to skin it how I want it.17:40
TechHi there, is GParted the only tool that will allow me to resize a dd created HDD img?  Thanks  :)17:42
TechIt's NTFS formatted17:43
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prussiantry the qemu disk tool17:43
prussianinstead17:43
prussianif its just a raw img17:43
TechIs that a terminal tool or does it have a gui?17:44
prussianof you need to resize NTFS, just remount it and resize that way17:44
prussianterminal17:44
JosephFeranois there a good VM for Ubuntu that provides seemless win10 experience? like being able to manipulate individual win programs with i3?17:45
Techprussian: I'm not very well versed in Terminal cmds. Plus, it took 5 hrs to create this 500 GB img file of my hdd.17:46
darkdrgn2kJosephFerano: vmware but i think they got rid of UNITY17:46
MonkeyDustJosephFerano  try virtualbox or vmware player (latter is 3r party, not in the repos)17:46
thor32nabend17:46
JosephFeranogot rid of Unity? You mean the DE?17:46
TechJosephFerano: Virtualbox is the best17:46
prussianOK so...you have a disk image created with did that's a dump of a disk?17:46
MonkeyDustJosephFerano  no, Unity in vmware player is seemless mode17:46
darkdrgn2kno unity mode in vmware17:46
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JosephFeranoah17:47
darkdrgn2kwhere the individual windows in the VMWARE show on your desktop17:47
JosephFeranoI see17:47
darkdrgn2kand the guests desktop disapears17:47
JosephFeranoYeah, I would love that17:47
darkdrgn2kstill there for iwndows17:47
darkdrgn2kbut they decided no one was using it in linux so as of vmware workstation 11 its gone17:47
JosephFeranodoes VB have a seemless mode?17:47
darkdrgn2kkinda but nto really17:48
Techyes it does17:48
darkdrgn2kTech: dont the apps have to be maximized to work thoguh?17:48
Techno17:48
darkdrgn2khmm i may have to give that a try then :-P17:48
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k1lJosephFerano: seemless mode with mouse? yes17:48
Tech:)17:48
JosephFeranook, well that's one option then17:48
k1lJosephFerano: you just need guest additions installed on the guest17:48
darkdrgn2kdoes virtual box work with macos?17:48
TechI've got 4 machines configured in Virtualbox :)17:49
Techprussian: What do you mean "a dump of a disk"?17:49
R4sk0ln1k0vhey17:50
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Techprussian: TBH I'm about ready to scrap this image, take the 2.5 inch hdd out of the laptop and clone it to vbox using disk2hd, avoiding the unnecessary and increasingly time-consuming hassle of Ubuntu's Terminal cli.17:52
Tech*CLI17:52
Tech*disk2vhd17:53
gtxbbTech, disk2hd is a windows app?17:53
gtxbbTech, you can even use dd to clone a disk17:53
Techyes17:53
Techno17:53
gtxbbTech, (vboxmanage can convert raw dd to .vdi)17:54
Techyeah but I don't have 500 GB + another 500 GB free to do that.....especially when only about 80 GB is used on that hdd.17:55
gtxbbTech, use conv=sparse with dd, that'll make a dd image of 80 gb..17:55
TechI was attempting to resize the img file but it seems more trouble than it's worth, especially given I have to calculate the offset, etc17:55
newmhello17:56
Techgtxbb: ooooo...that sounds much better!17:56
Techone sec17:56
gtxbbTech, wait17:56
gtxbbTech, i'm not following with your procedure..17:56
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gtxbbTech, i thought you were doing a backup17:57
gtxbbTech, looks like you're trying to do something else... so i guess only you know what you're after17:57
Techone sec17:57
Tech:)17:57
gtxbbgood luck (i have no idea what he's doing)17:57
* gtxbb hides17:57
TechThis is the command I used to create the raw disk img:  dd if=/dev/sda of="/media/ubuntu/SP Blue 1 TB/rawdisk.img" bs=16M17:58
Techgtxbb: Don't hide  :)17:58
* Tech runs after gtxbb 17:58
bekksAnd whats the proboem now?17:58
Techbekks: if you're asking me, it's how do I append gtxbb 's conv=sparse cmd to the above cmd?18:00
bekks"add it at the end of the command" aka "append".18:00
Bashing-omTech: "SP Blue 1 TB/: is not a linux syntax. Spaces are delimiters . If ya use that name will have to escape the spaces for the sytem to see it as one name .18:00
bekksBashing-om: He is using "" around the entire filename.18:00
bekksNo need for escaping.18:00
BluesKaj no need to dd the whole drive/partition , resize the sourcer partition to a GB larger then the data , dd it to the target then expand it to a usable size afterwards Tech, 16Mbs is abit large bs=4M is best18:00
bekksBashing-om: bs can be the cache size of the disk, which will avoid unnecessary I/O then.18:01
bekksBluesKaj: ^18:01
Techwell #virtualbox guys don't know as much you do BluesKaj ;)18:01
Bashing-ombekks: Tech : K .. me and my tunnel vision .18:01
bekksTech: At that point (regarding blocksize) he is wrong :P18:01
BluesKajok nm , Ill stay out , my mistake ...I've never tried to dd from VM image18:03
Techlol18:04
newmis ubuntu mate supported on this channel?18:04
k1lnewm: yes18:05
Techtoo many people helping....but I appreciate the enthusiasm :-)18:05
bekksTech: So after you created the disk image yesterday - whats the problem today?18:05
Techbekks: I didn't zero before creating the img18:06
Tech*zero out the free space18:06
bekksTech: So do it and create a new image.18:07
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bekksTech: adding various options to dd will not magically zero it out.18:07
TechI don't know how to append that to this cmd line: dd if=/dev/sda of="/media/ubuntu/SP Blue 1 TB/rawdisk.img" bs=16M18:07
bekksTech: Do not add any options. Zero out free space, create a new image.18:07
Techwhat options?18:08
bekksTech: "conv ..."18:08
bekksTech: Adding those will not help you at all.18:08
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gtxbbTech, append what?  "conv=sparse" ?  you just add that to the end of the dd line18:08
JeanLuc_Hi there, I was sent over from #ubuntu-app-devel. I want to build my vala/gtk-application on launchpad as part of a ppa. But I am facing a strange issue: First a vapi-file is being created during the build, then right after the build fails complaining it can't find the exact same file.18:08
gtxbbTech, but it may be well beyond 80gb --- because there's "orphaned" data that are non-zero value bytes.18:08
JeanLuc_error: /«BUILDDIR»/feedreader-2.0.0~r1264+pkg25~ubuntu16.10.1//«BUILDDIR»/feedreader-2.0.0~r1264+pkg25~ubuntu16.10.1/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/FeedReaderCommon.vapi not found18:08
JeanLuc_https://launchpadlibrarian.net/286704177/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.feedreader_2.0.0~r1264+pkg25~ubuntu16.10.1_BUILDING.txt.gz18:09
Techugh...18:09
gtxbbTech, dd dumps everything... however "sparse" will crunch all the zero-byte segments -- shortening the actual size on a sparse filesysetm18:09
gtxbbTech, that's just a last bit I can give as advice18:09
Techthis bs now has me confused gtxbb and bekks18:09
gtxbb(I use e2image which is better than dd for backing up ext2/3/4,... but you're working with "ntfs" -- and a whole disk image)18:10
bekksTech: set bs=16M, done.18:10
naccJeanLuc_: you may want to ask in #launchpad18:10
Techokaaaaaaaay so.....18:10
JeanLuc_:P and #launchpad will send me over to the next channel18:10
gtxbbTech, use your Windows tools to backup your Windows system.18:10
TechFINAL CMD: dd if=/dev/sda of="/media/ubuntu/SP Blue 1 TB/rawdisk.img" bs=16M conv=sparse18:11
gtxbbTech, as you're not acquainted with the cli terminal (which you mention numerous times)18:11
naccJeanLuc_: maybe, but it's not really an ubuntu support question :)18:11
segardfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffsddddddddddddd.//1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111118:11
MonkeyDustthat looks like cat-language18:11
bekksTech: How often will you ask that again?18:12
bekksTech: We spent hours yesterday already.18:12
naccJeanLuc_: fwiw, the issue seems to be sort of double-nested path "/«BUILDDIR»/feedreader-2.0.0~r1264+pkg25~ubuntu16.10.1//«BUILDDIR»/feedreader-2.0.0~r1264+pkg25~ubuntu16.10.1/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/FeedReaderCommon.vapi"18:12
wimpog14 to 16 upgrade is stalled out at `Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-30-generic`. Help18:12
TechI'm not familar with Terminal bekks ....I'm sorry!18:13
k1lwimpog: whate versions exactly? there are 2 ubuntu releases each year.18:13
bekksTech: The command for creating the image is the same as yesterday.18:13
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wimpogk1l: Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS to 16.04.1 LTS upgrade via `do-release-upgrade`18:13
k1lwimpog: and that brought you an error? and was canceled?18:14
TechYes I just posted the successful cmd with the appending sparse cmd added to where I THINK it should be but I'm not entirely sure so I'm asking AGAIN... bekks18:14
atronichiiii18:14
wimpogk1l: affirmative! Just stalled, no progress18:14
k1lwimpog: for how long?18:15
atronichi18:15
k1lwimpog: some steps can take some time depending on the hardware18:15
Salahhi i have problem18:15
Salahwho help me plz18:15
wimpogk1l: ~1hr18:15
MonkeyDustSalah  start with a question18:15
wimpogk1l: this is virtual machine18:15
wimpogk1l: should I leave it longer18:16
Salah@MonkeyDust how to install intell graphic driver18:16
k1lwimpog: uh, 1hour is long enough. but virtual machines can have own issues18:16
k1lSalah: you dont need to install a driver since intel ships the driver in the linux kernel18:16
Salahno sir i cant play games and i check driver18:17
Salahresult unknown graphic18:17
MonkeyDustSalah  start from the beginning, what brings you here18:17
Salahi cant install graphics driver18:18
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wimpogk1l: anything else I could try?18:18
naccSalah: for intel, there is no graphics driver to 'install'. What game are you trying to play that produces that message?18:18
Salahi play conquer online18:19
pineappleloverhello ubuntu fails downloading extra data files requested by flashplugin-installer package... is there a way to fix this?18:19
naccSalah: how are you playing it? wine?18:21
k1lwimpog: is /boot full?18:21
MonkeyDustpineapplelover  try sudo apt-get -f install18:21
Salahi have wine but the game playing very slowly18:21
pineappleloverokay18:21
wimpogk1l: /dev/sda1       511M  3.4M  508M   1% /boot/efi18:21
k1lSalah: what game, what hardware?18:21
naccwimpog: that's the efi partition, not /boot itself (fyi)18:22
k1lwimpog: no, not /boot/efi. /boot. but most times its just part of the /18:22
Salahgame = conquer online  hardware = intell18:22
wimpogk1l: /dev/sda2        58G   32G   24G  57% /18:22
pineappleloverMonkeyDust: what about this fix?= http://askubuntu.com/questions/525865/failure-to-download-extra-data-files-flashplugin-installer18:23
Peter1029Good day how can i make a shell script end after it is finished or if the files the script is suposed to be moving are missing.18:23
naccPeter1029: shells scripts end when they are finished. You can always do 'exit <return-code>' if you need to18:23
MonkeyDustPeter1029  the people in #bash can help you with scripting18:24
naccPeter1029: the latter part is called error handling, and you'd want to presumably do some sort of check, and then exit with a non-zero code18:24
Peter1029what do you mean by return code?18:24
guest-uz4dvwwos is los18:26
naccPeter1029: as MonkeyDust said, it's probably better discussed in #bash, but 0 typically mean success and any non-zero result means some kind of error18:26
SchrodingersScatnacc: he's there, mission accomplished18:27
naccSchrodingersScat: thanks18:27
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Peter1029Thanks i just my question to bash i m leaving this channel.18:28
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guest-uz4dvwloka pola mina sola18:33
TechWhat is the cmd to append sudo to a dd conversion?18:33
k1lTech: append sudo? you write sudo in front of it18:33
Techjust literally writing sudo dd if= /dev etc etc?18:34
k1lTech: if you want commands to be run with root powers you need to preface them with sudo.18:35
TechKillaloT: just sudo?18:35
Techoops18:35
k1lTech: honestly: you are making it harder than it is. just write sudo dd ....... and the command dd will be run with root power after you put in your users password when asked for it18:36
bekksTech: same as yesterday ;)18:36
Techgot it18:37
Techdarn it!  now it's not working and nothing has literally changed other than me shutting the computer down18:38
bekksTech: What is not working?18:38
AciD`hey, what's up with the hashsum being wrong for E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/universe/binary-amd64/by-hash/SHA256/fca8476f315a46d2067bccf64e3a05274bdbf1097225d7a47ba45│HOME_URL="http://neon.kde.org/" d9888846a3a18:38
AciD`?18:38
k1lTech: what exact command? what error? use paste.ubuntu.com for several lines output18:39
AciD`whoops, HOME_URL="http://neon.kde.org/" was on the other terminal side by side, discard that :)18:39
k1lAciD`: maybe the mirror is beeing updated and there is a different package on the mirror than on the updated list18:40
k1lAciD`: either wait or clear the packagelist18:40
AciD`is it happening to you too k1l?18:40
k1lAciD`: it happens sometimes.18:40
AciD`what do you mean by 'clearing the packagelist'?18:40
k1lsudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*18:41
AciD`what does that do exactly?18:41
AciD`I have 102 files in there :x18:41
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k1lit removes the package lists you got on your system. the issue you have is a missmatch of the versions on the server and on your system,.18:41
elias_ak1l: Mismatch. Not missmatch.18:42
Techkil: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23234640/18:42
Techbekks:18:42
k1lTech: its pretty clear: there s no such target18:43
Techthere was yesterday...lol18:43
TechDo I need to double check the external drive in GParted?18:43
k1lTech: so you didnt mount that disk today. or it is named differently18:43
jpsantoshi guys, question about systemd.  Is there a place I can configure systemd in ubuntu to run a startup script before any of the kernel drivers are loaded.  I need to load a stub driver onto two identical nvidia cards, disconnect one of the cards before the system attempts to load the nvidia driver so the host machine will still have a video card to use.  Does anyone know where this config is?18:43
Techkil: yes18:44
Technow I'm not sure unless it doesn't like my rawdisk2.img name?18:46
k1lits not that it doenst like the name. it doesnt find it at all18:47
TechI changed the img name from yesterday since I didn't want to delete the original rawdisk.img18:47
Techhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/23234675/18:48
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Techoops18:49
Techwell anyway...I'm not sure why isn't finding the external drive path18:50
bekksTech: pastebin "mount" please.18:50
Techwhat do you mean?18:51
bekksTech: type the command "mount", pastebin the outcome.18:51
k1lTech: the command and output dont match18:51
Techbekks: that unfortunately doesn't work on a machine without an internet connection....I have to manually type it unfortunately.18:52
bekksTech: USe a usb stick or a pencil then.18:52
Picior take a picture18:52
TechHere it is corrected: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23234681/18:52
k1lTech: ok, again: the /media/ubuntu/SP Blue 1 TB/rawdisk2.img  doesnt exist. that is the issue18:53
k1lTech: either its not mounted or its a typo or something else. you can use the tab-key to use auto-completion to make sure its not a typo.18:54
TechI'll snap a pic, one sec18:54
bp_Guys i need an help, where can i debug the desktop manager?18:57
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bp_heeeyyy maaan18:58
bp_someone is listening?18:58
Techkil: bekks http://imgur.com/a/LwTon18:59
Bashing-ombp_: lightdm ? >> Logging to /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log .18:59
nacc!patience | bp_18:59
ubottubp_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/18:59
bekksTech: where is the output of "mount" as requested?19:00
Techbekks: what do you mean?19:00
ioriaTech, a space insed the quotes ?19:00
k1lTech: no space in front of /media .....19:00
ioria*inside19:00
naccthat looks all sorts of weird ... why not use escapes on the spaces, or tab-complete it19:01
Techthanks kil...that's working....LOL19:01
Techgeeez...19:01
bp_@bashing-om: thanks, but i am using gdm (gnome desktop manager) . @nacc: i'm sorry, i'm a new user in IRC19:01
naccbp_: @ doesn't do anything on irc, please just use the nick you're addressing, tab-complete to help you out19:02
Techioria: thanks, it's working now :)19:02
ioriayay | Tech19:03
naccbp_: probably the logs are under /var/log/gdm or /var/log/gdm319:03
Techthe space in front of /media was the culprit19:03
Bray90820Anyone there can tell me where BOOTx64.EFI is located?19:03
ioriayay  Tech19:03
bp_nacc, thank you very much ! if i want to learn how to improve ubuntu and similar os, can you suggest me a lecture? i can't debug gnome easily19:04
naccbp_: are you finding issues? file bugs19:05
naccBray90820: the only similar file i find in apt is /usr/lib/systemd/boot/efi/systemd-bootx64.efi from systemd19:06
k1lBray90820: still your tablet?19:07
Bray90820nacc:  can you check in "/boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu"19:07
Bray90820k1l: Yes sir19:07
Bray90820The BOOTx64.EFI is the last thing I am trying before I give up and use nomodeset19:08
k1lBray90820: you need a 32bit uefi setup for that19:08
naccBray90820: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234732/19:08
Bray90820k1l: I actually have it booted with nomodeset19:08
TechSo will the 'conv=sparse' cmd ensure that I don't end up with another 500GB.img file that takes over 5 hrs to create?  I'm hoping for an img around 100 GB in size since only about 80GB is used when I last checked it in windows.  :)19:09
Bray90820nacc: can you do an ls -la of that directory for me?19:09
naccBray90820: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234736/19:09
Bray90820nacc: Thanks19:10
Bray90820That was actually a lot of help19:10
Techbekks: kil: ??19:10
ioriaTech,  you can check progress (in another terminal win ) with  sudo kill -USR1 $(pgrep ^dd)19:11
naccBray90820: yw19:12
Techioria: I was just wondering if that command will result in a smaller .img file.  Also I keep checking the file size of the mounted external drive so I know it's working, easier than checking in another Terminal I think, at least for me. ;-)19:13
ioriaTech,  you are cloning the entire /dev/sda ... how big is it ?19:14
Tech500 GB19:14
k1lonto a external usb2.0 hdd?19:14
Techyes19:14
ioriaTech,  a long wait ...19:15
EriC^^Tech: dd has a nice status=progress argument fyi19:15
nacciiuc, doesn't sparse just make dd seek rather than write 0s? so i'm not sure it'll change the effective image size19:15
Techno idea where that cmd would go EriC^^ lol19:15
EriC^^dd if= of= status=progress bs= ..etc19:15
ioriaTech,  true, the new dd (coreutils) has a feature...19:16
anti-tortureHello19:17
nicolas__hello19:17
Techioria: So again, will that sparse command result in a smaller img or am I wasting my time?19:17
ioriaTech,  not familiar with sparse, sorry19:17
Techioria: apparently no one is so don't beat yourself up over it ;)19:18
ioriaTech,  ^_^19:18
Linux-NinjaAnyone found a good client for skype for business under 16.x?19:19
Techkil: you seem to have mod powers, am I right? ^_^19:19
naccTech: my understanding based upon the manpage is, i think the file will appear to be 500G in length (as it's a disk copy), but it won't occupy all 500G on-disk19:19
k1lTech: yes19:19
Linux-NinjaI have been playing with Sky for a few days, but the conference/voice feature requires $50 fee19:20
MonkeyDustLinux-Ninja  yeah, MS is commercial19:20
xanguaHuh wasn't Skype for Linux free as beer?19:20
k1lnot skype business19:21
nacci feel like the implications of 'for business' implies non-free19:21
Technacc: sounds to me like it would be considered similar to how a dynamically allocated, resizable vdi or vhd image would behave.  ;-)19:21
naccTech: if i had to guess, probably -- i don't honestly know, though19:21
Linux-Ninjak1, in my current role they are using this form of communication internally19:21
Technacc: I'm not even sure what to google to find the answer...19:22
Surfacehello guys, can someone help me please? I try to downgrade Libcap-dev, but i fail. Error message is:  Unfulfilled dependencies19:22
Linux-NinjaMonkeyDust, I really wish there was an alternative under ubuntu...19:23
naccTech: what are you trying to do, exactly?19:23
naccSurface: what version of ubuntu, downgrade from what version to what version, and why19:23
MonkeyDustSurface  don't (try to) downgrade, look for a different solution19:24
Technacc: it's very very long story...ask bekks ...haha..I'll give you the short version19:24
SurfaceMonkeydust & nacc: i want to use reaver on ubuntu, and this is the only one soulutin19:25
Technacc: attempting to virtualize a Windows 7 64bit ntfs mbr formatted hdd to work in VirtualBox on a different computer basically. :)19:25
k1lSurface: ubuntu ships reaver19:25
MonkeyDust!find reaver19:25
ubottuFound: reaver, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 18 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=reaver&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all19:25
MonkeyDust!info reaver19:26
ubottureaver (source: reaver): brute force attack tool against Wifi Protected Setup PIN number. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4-2 (xenial), package size 218 kB, installed size 584 kB19:26
naccits in universe since 14.0419:26
naccTech: ah ...19:26
SurfaceUbuntu 16.04 LTS running on a Surface pro 419:26
naccSurface: ok, enable universe and reaver is there19:26
Surfacesorry, i use linux a few days (max 10 days) and i dont understand what you mean with "enable universe"19:27
nacc!components | Surface19:27
ubottuSurface: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.19:27
ioria!info reaver | Surface19:27
ubottuSurface: reaver (source: reaver): brute force attack tool against Wifi Protected Setup PIN number. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4-2 (xenial), package size 218 kB, installed size 584 kB19:27
MonkeyDustSurface  System Settings > software sources ... enable Universe19:28
Surfaceoh, thank you. i will do this now19:28
Surfacei looked at the universe repo and it was already enabled19:30
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MonkeyDustSurface  ok, in a terminal, type    sudo apt update ... then install reaver19:31
Technacc: I've successfully virtualized a dual-boot, originally GPT formatted Window 7 64bit and Windows 10 64bit HDD running on the same computer but haven't tried the latter of virtualizing an OS and moving it to a different system altogether. If I can pull it off, I'll create instructions for everyone.  Btw, up to 50.7 GB on rawdisk2.img creation.  ;)19:31
Surfaceok one moment19:31
abaldygleHow to turn on Universe repo?19:35
Surfacelook here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/148638/how-do-i-enable-the-universe-repository19:35
MonkeyDustabaldygle   System Settings > software sources ... enable Universe19:35
Surface@Monkeydust: root @ urootSrfce: ~ # apt-get install reaver Reading package lists ... Done Dependency tree. Status information can be read .... finished Try 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies:   libpcap0.8: Damaged: libpcap0.8: i386 but 1.4.0-2 is to be installed (= 1.7.4-2!)   libpcap0.8: i386: Damaged: (! = 1.4.0-2) libpcap0.8 but 1.7.4-2 is to be installed19:36
Surfacei tryed apt-get -f install, but it dont work. yesterday that worked for me19:36
MonkeyDustSurface  that is unreabdable, next time, use a !pastebin19:36
Surfaceok sorry, wait ill do this19:36
nicomachus!pastebin | Surface19:36
ubottuSurface: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:36
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Surfacehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23234826/19:37
naccSurface: it appears you already tried to break your system with a different version of libcap?19:37
MonkeyDustSurface  and how are you root in Ubuntu?19:38
Linux-Ninjaxangua: freee as beer not for Microsoft19:38
MonkeyDustLinux-Ninja  free speech is more important than free beer19:39
naccSurface: waht version of ubuntu is this, btw?19:39
nicomachusMonkeyDust++19:39
naccSurface: and what does `apt-get -f install` report?19:39
Linux-NinjaMonkeyDust: I agree with you 100%19:39
Surfaceif i start the terminal i type in: sudo gnome-terminal, then i dont have to type "sudo" everytime19:39
SurfaceUbuntu 16.04 LTS19:40
Surfacei change the language from german to english and then i will paste it to pastebin19:40
TechEriC^^: I tried that status=progress cmd but it didn't work.19:40
naccSurface: xenial has 1.7.4-2, it was a really quite bad idea to try to forcibly (and fail) install 1.4.0-219:40
ioriaSurface apt-cache policy libpcap0.819:41
ioriaTech,   sudo kill -USR1 $(pgrep ^dd)19:42
EriC^^Tech: maybe you have an old version of dd19:42
Surfacehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23234842/19:42
Techno idea if I do or not19:42
ioriaSurface apt-cache policy libpcap-dev19:43
EriC^^Tech: try dd --version19:43
EriC^^mine is 8.2519:43
Techioria: 8.25 me too19:44
Surfacehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23234845/ apt-get -f install19:44
TechI mean EriC^^19:44
Techioria: anything with sudo and kill....worries me....lol19:44
ioriaTech,   it's ok :þ19:45
TechI even did a google search and couldn't find a reference19:45
Surfacehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23234851/ ...policy libpcap-dev19:45
naccSurface: looks like you'll need to manually fix-up libpcap19:46
naccSurface: why do you have precise and xenial enabled at the same time?19:46
naccSurface: also, the policy requested was for libpcap0.819:46
Surfacenacc: you mean the repos?19:46
naccSurface: oh i see it earlier19:46
naccSurface: yes, the respos19:46
nacc*repos19:46
ioriaSurface dpkg -l | grep libpcap0.819:47
Surfaceas i said: i want to learn to work with linux, and i dont know much about it. i tryed som tutorials to get work ubuntu on the surface pro 4 :D19:47
nacci don't think getting linux working on the surface pro 4 is the right way to learn to work on linux :)19:47
naccit's probably more hassle than it's worth19:47
Surface@ ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234858/19:48
ioriaSurface yes, you borked it19:48
Surfaceyeah, i think youre right. but i have only the surface at the moment and not much money to buy a laptop / pc19:48
StrumpZhi all, without the advise to buy a new NIC card, my onboard E2100 killer network, there are no official linux drivers, do any of you know any unofficial that are confirmed to work?19:48
Surfaceyaay i've done a good job xD ... and thanks to everyone who wants to help :)19:49
Techioria: it's gone past the 80 GB mark now...I'm getting discouraged. I'll try your command, I just don't want to stop the progress or delete anything....haha19:49
ioriaSurface why did you install :i386 ver ?19:50
ioriaTech,   ok19:50
k1lSurface: wait, you have 12.04 sources in your system?19:50
ioria!info libpcap0.8 precise19:51
ubottulibpcap0.8 (source: libpcap): system interface for user-level packet capture. In component main, is standard. Version 1.1.1-10 (precise), package size 114 kB, installed size 282 kB19:51
nacck1l: yeah, it's ... not rigth19:51
nacc*right19:51
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k1lSurface: please show a "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* " output on pastebin19:51
Surfaceok19:51
Surface@ioria: my mistake last night. i saw it too :(19:52
ioriaSurface it's ok19:52
Surface@ k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234886/19:53
iorialist:deb http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main universe19:53
Surfacelinux is very nice, but a little bit complicated for windows users ^.^19:53
k1lSurface: that last line in the sources.list with "precise" is wrong19:54
bp_nacc: i was having dinner, i'm sorry. yes i have bugs: my desktop disappears and i don't know how to debug19:54
naccbp_: ok, filing the bugs is often a good way to contribute then19:54
Surface@ k1l: you mean the tigerite repo?19:54
k1lSurface: do a "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and delete the last line which has "precise" in it. then ctrl+o to save, and ctrl+x to exit.19:55
izzualtest19:55
Surface@k1l ok19:55
bp_nacc: but if i want to partecipate to the project? try to fix it by myself? can you suggest me a way?19:55
k1lSurface: that ppa should point to xenial too. but you can change that in the GUI in system settings -> software and updates > 3rd party software19:56
Techioria: I won't doubt your awesomeness ever again!  :D19:56
* Tech bows to ioria .19:56
ioriaTech,   ^_^19:56
naccbp_: there is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved/Newcomer19:56
naccbp_: i would look at other getting started pages, probably19:57
Surfacethe last line is deleted19:57
bp_nacc: thanks, this is enough. bless19:57
naccbp_: good luck19:57
Techioria: I'm confused by the output though19:58
yourname2Surface: i know that it isnt reaver but you could use the aircrack-ng suite instead.19:58
k1lyourname2: that doesnt help him with his sources mess he got there anyway. if that is sorted reaver will install19:59
Surfacecan i scan wps routers with aircrack-ng?19:59
yourname2Surface: yup19:59
k1lSurface: first get your mess sorted there. you will run into a lot more issues19:59
Surface@yourname2: thank you20:00
Surface@k1l you are right20:00
Surface@ i am working on it20:00
yourname2Surface: just saying if you cant get it figured out.20:01
Surface:)20:01
Surfacei have no idea how can i fix the apt-get -f insall problem^^ someone has a tip? (i googled before i asked)20:06
TechOkay how do I kill this dd img creation process....it's building to over 150GB ???20:07
Techand I only have 230 GB free on this external hdd it's copying to20:07
k1lSurface: wait20:07
MonkeyDustSurface  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15121279/20:07
k1lSurface: did you do what i told you?20:07
StrumpZanyone know of linux drivers for killer network e2100 chip?20:07
Surface@ to fix ist manually? @ k1l20:08
k1lSurface: i told you to fix your sources.list and to fix the ppa.20:08
ppfdarkdrgn2k: thanks for the help earlier, this is working far better than expected ;)20:08
Surfacek1l: the last line i've deleted, if you mean this.. with the 3nd party software i have nothing maked20:09
Surface@ monkey dust: ok, thx20:10
k1lSurface: open systemsettings -> software and updates -> 3rd party tab. then choose your PPA there and make sure in the settings it links to xenial and not something else.20:10
k1lSurface: its very very bad that you mix ubuntu releases there. who ever told you that did give you very bad advice.20:11
ppfMonkeyDust: that's really heavy handed20:11
felipebhzhi guys20:12
felipebhzI think I have a problem with my refresh rate of HDMI port20:12
MonkeyDustppf  true, couldnt have found it myself, picked it up here20:13
felipebhzAlready tried almost everything since sunday morning :/20:13
felipebhzRandomly my screen just blinks, like it was changing refresh rate20:13
felipebhzubuntu 16.04 | Intel HD 300020:13
Bashing-omfelipebhz: Driver loaded ' lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'  ' ?20:16
felipebhzOne moment pls20:16
sukeshHi am not able to create Hotspot in Ubuntu 16.04. I have tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/490950/create-wifi-hotspot-on-ubuntu, but doesnt work. Can sum one guide me?20:16
Surface@ k1l : sorry, my english is not very good. to make sure that i have understand you: should i uncheck the ppa(tigerite) @ 3rd party?20:16
felipebhzBashing-om, Kernel driver in use: i91520:16
ppf!de | Surface20:17
ubottuSurface: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!20:17
sukesh*some20:17
felipebhzBashing-om, I disabled the intel one via Aditional Drivers/Programs Update20:17
mr-eHello everyone, I'm running ubuntu 16.04, and have two monitors (display port and hdmi) with 4 virtual desktops. Whenever my computer sleeps, the windows are moved across all desktops. Is there a way to prevent that?20:17
k1lSurface: no, not uncheck it. open the edit settings and make sure it links to xenial and not trusty. trusty is 14.04 and you use 16.04. so that is wrong.20:17
Surfaceahhhh ok20:17
mr-eEven enabled proprietary drivers, no die20:18
mr-e*dice20:18
ppfmr-e: what's your WM?20:18
Bashing-omfelipebhz: Well, Intel provides the driver in the kernel; and Intell generally just works . As it is loaded, I do not know what else to do with Intel graphics .20:18
felipebhzmr-e, seems HDMI and Ubuntu are not friends anymore. haha My problem here is my external TV connected via HDMI keeps refreshing randomly20:18
Surface@ppf thanks :)20:19
ppfsure :)20:19
Surface@k1l done, edited to xenial20:19
felipebhzBashing-om, Is any other option to check like kernel update or something?20:19
felipebhzBashing-om, I googled it a lot and probably it is a common problem, but none of the options I have tried solved it20:20
mr-eppf: Unity20:20
k1lSurface: ok, now on the terminal run "sudo apt update"20:20
ppfafraid i got no idea then :)20:20
k1lSurface: after that "sudo apt full-upgrade" put the output to pastebin please20:21
Surfaceok20:21
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ppfk1l: what's full-upgrade20:21
k1lppf: its the old apt-get dist-upgrade but with a new name that is less confusing20:22
ppfright you said apt20:22
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Surface@k1l : same problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234982/20:22
k1lSurface: "sudo apt-get -f install" please20:23
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ppfi kinda missed the beginning of this. did you try to remove the :i386 version yet?20:23
Surface@k1l i tryed that, same error. i will post it mom20:24
Surfacehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23234985/20:24
Surface@ppf how can i do that? no i dont tryed that20:24
k1lSurface: sudo apt purge libpcap0.8:i38620:25
Surfaceand thanks to all who wants to help me!20:25
Surface@k1l, done20:25
k1lSurface: did it remove it?20:26
Surfaceyes, no error if i type now apt-get -f install20:26
k1lok. sudo apt install reaver20:26
ppfpaste the output of the remove command please20:26
ppfjust to be sure20:26
Surfacehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23234992/20:26
ppfgood20:27
Surfacereaver is already installed. should i do this again?20:27
mr-eAnyone else got an idea on my window position issue?20:27
k1lSurface: please run the command. to make sure reaver and the dependencies are installed20:28
krypt_Hello20:28
Surfacehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23235004/ apt-get install reaver20:28
Surfaceseems good20:28
k1lSurface: ok.20:28
pressure679I do not know where to ask this, but here goes; Does anyone offer a webserver to use a custom emacs server with ssh?20:29
Surfacedo you think the wash command will work know?20:29
k1lSurface: in future dont mix ubuntu releases in the sources20:29
Surfaceok i wont do this again20:29
k1lSurface: we cant support wifi hacking in here. if you need it for your own testing, then you want to read the documentation anyway.20:30
TechIs anyone experienced in installing Virtualbox on Ubuntu live USB CD?20:30
Surfaceyes, i am talking about my router20:30
TechIt seems to be stuck at "waiting to install".20:30
k1lSurface: doesnt matter. read the documentation. we dont support that in here20:31
ppfso ... apt over apt-X or not?20:31
SurfaceOK everything good. Many thanks for your help and time20:32
k1lppf: apt is the new apt-*20:32
k1lppf: some features are missing but the most used are included. and it got a fancy progressbar :)20:32
ppfdo they share caches and the like?20:33
k1lyes20:33
anjanwhen'll ubuntu release its new version???20:33
ppfanjan: in october20:33
Picino...20:34
OerHeksoctober 20'20:34
OerHeks?20:34
k1lanjan: 20.10.201620:34
anjanthanks20:34
Picioh, somehow I inserted an LTS in there when reading it.20:34
ppfk1l: it's nice :)20:35
holdenHi guys, just out of curiosity, how long does a typical kernel build take? (I have a i5, 8Gb of ram, hdd 320Gb 7200rpm)20:35
anjanwell how to check my current kernel ???20:36
ppfuname -a20:36
MCMic_Hello20:36
anjanoooo thanks20:36
Surfaceone last question bevore i go: i look to /var/log/kern.log and it shows me (often) : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23235030/20:36
MCMic_Why would a polkit action defined in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/ not appear in pkaction list?20:36
OerHeksholden, between 30-90 minutes, hard to say20:37
felipebhzGuys, the driver i915 is Intel proprietary or Ubuntu opensource default?20:37
MCMic_I can't mount usb drives because the udisks actions are supposedly missing, but the files are there20:37
ppfSurface: that's something you should try to google20:37
holdenOerHeks, thanks, I started a compilation and it's been running for a while... we'll see :)20:38
Surface ok :D20:38
Surfacehave a nice day :)20:38
ppfholden: do remember to run make -j ;)20:38
holdenppf, I did, I ran "make -j `getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN` deb-pkg LOCALVERSION=-custom"20:39
ppfsounds good20:39
ppfyou could use more, though20:40
felipebhzI wanted to know it, because I really need to check if Ubuntu is using intel's or community drivers.20:40
k1lfelipebhz: the intel driver is in the kernel. that will be used20:40
holdenppf, how much more would you recommend?20:41
ppfi usually go with 4xprocessors20:41
felipebhzk1l, I need to know how to change it to Intel's proprietary one so I can check if the random refreshs in my HDMI monitor is a driver problem20:42
k1lfelipebhz: there is no intel prop. one20:42
SomethisGERMhmm ... when editing text with nano, how do I delete the current word (to correct a typo)?20:42
SomethisGERIn bash or zsh terminal I would just type ALT+DEL to delete it.20:42
k1lfelipebhz: what ubuntu and what kernel is it?20:42
TechHas anyone successfully installed VirtualBox in Ubuntu Live CD? I'm not seeing any progress with the software install and I've been waiting for 10 minutes....it shouldn't take that long.20:43
felipebhzk1l, is there anything I can do? I have a 2310m with Intel HD Graphics 3000 - It randomly refreshes the HDMI monitor without any pattern20:43
ppfSomethisGER: nano isn't a very powerful tool20:43
k1lSomethisGER: "backspace"? :)20:43
felipebhzk1l, one moment20:43
ppfcould try ctrl-w20:43
ppfor use a more powerful editor20:43
felipebhzk1l, ubuntu 16.04 | Kernel 4.7.4-040704-generic20:44
OerHeksTech, never worked for me, vbox in live environment20:44
k1lfelipebhz: you could try with the original ubuntu kernel. and not the mainline one20:44
Techdarnit20:44
tximist?20:44
OerHeksTech, as you need to fully upgrade the live system, then you might be able to get vbox dkms working20:45
felipebhzk1l, I tried everything. Even updating the kernel. I had this problem with Ubuntu fresh installed and with Linux Mint :/20:45
SomethisGERppf ctrl-w didn't work ...20:45
SomethisGERppf: ctrl-w didn't work ...20:45
OerHeksman nano20:45
ppfyou're probably out of luck20:46
SomethisGERppf: yes, so I guess I have to learn vim. There's no Gedit for the terminal :-D20:46
ppflearning vim is certainly the right thing to do20:46
SomethisGEROerHeks: just what I was thinking ... MAN nano ;)20:46
SomethisGERppf: or Emacs maybe ...20:47
ppfsure20:47
SomethisGERppf: or NANO ;-))))20:47
Bashing-omSomethisGER: There is : http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/42980/the-beginners-guide-to-nano-the-linux-command-line-text-editor/ .20:47
SomethisGERBashing-om: ... ok, checking ...20:48
OerHeksCtrl-^ to mark the start of the text,  Ctrl-Space (forward one word) ...20:48
TechOerHeks: never tried upgrading so I'm not sure how to do it20:48
codekKHi, im having problems with amdgpu pro drivers. Im on Ubuntu 16.04 with AMD Radeon HD 7790. I recompiled the kernel and enabled the CONFIG_DRM_AMDGPU_CIK=Y... but when i install the drivers i get just a blackscreen on boot up :S cant change the tty and cant do nothing... just enter recovery and uninstall it. Some suggestions please??20:54
SomethisGERBashing-om: OerHeks: ppf: Thank you for the feedback guys.20:56
k1lcodekK: is 7790 supported by amd gpu pro at all?20:56
SomethisGERIt's true, one can select words but one can't delete them in one stroke.20:56
OerHekscodekK, not sure that AMD Radeon HD 7790 is supported with AMDgpu, radeon only i guess.20:56
codekKk1l, yes with the enabled option on kernel20:56
k1lcodekK: i mean officially. not with forcing it20:57
SomethisGERNano is not my editor. I think I'll give Emacs a go.20:57
codekKi read that its supported, not fully but supported and read that other people works with same card20:57
codekK:S20:57
OerHeksindeed, sea island https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Amdgpu20:59
OerHeksbut then you don't need to compile stuff on 16.04, it should work ootb20:59
OerHeksAMD Microcode is required ..21:00
codekKOerHeks, its required to enabled the kernel option, like i read21:00
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emba21:03
faekjarzHey there! I'm considering to buy an addition minion, an Acer X1700 - are there any known issues with nVidia nForce MCPs / mobo chipsets (NVIDIA GeForce 7100 / nForce 630i)?21:07
tech-o-noxcan someone explain, why benchmarking my http server, i get disconnects with more then 16K  connected file descriptors? ( lsof -i -P | wc -l )  Ulimit is set to 100,00021:16
OerHekstech-o-nox, on what ubuntu? and how did you set ulimit?21:17
mike123hi21:17
tech-o-noxyes testing on ubuntu, ulimit -n 10000021:18
tech-o-noxboth ulimit -Hn and Sn are set to 100K21:18
OerHekswhich version?21:18
mike123i am installing ubuntu server on a hp microserver gen 8, with x4 2tb disks in a raid 5 config21:18
OerHekswith systemd ulimits changed21:19
tech-o-noxubuntu desktop version 14.0421:19
mike123the install start off ok once it hit 33 % its take 2 hours to get to 45%21:19
mike123can anyone help?21:19
tech-o-noxmike123, open a terminal when installing, check htop and iotop for disc activity, and report back your findings pls21:20
mike123can ony one help with slow installs on a software raid 5 config?21:20
tech-o-noxmike123 also benchmark the raid5 with disk tool and check for read/write speed21:21
tech-o-noxOerHeks: any ideas?21:21
mike123thanks tech-o-nox21:21
mike123any suggestions why the read / write would be so slow?21:22
mike123there brand new disks21:22
tech-o-noxcould be a bios setting, bootup a linux live cd21:22
mike123the install was started from a usb pen drive21:22
tech-o-noxgoogle for the same bios that you have regarding raid5, and bench with live cd21:23
tech-o-noxor live usb21:23
tech-o-noxraid5 *settings21:23
OerHekstech-o-nox, i was waiting how you set ulimits, or should i guess?21:23
tech-o-noxthe command ulimit -n 100000 to set ulimit21:24
OerHeksthat would do only for that terminal session. not a solution.21:24
OerHeksyou need to edit limits.conf, and do something with /etc/pam.d/common-session21:25
tech-o-noxi edited /etc/security/limits.conf21:25
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tech-o-nox#*               hard    rss             10000021:25
debkadwonder if possible to disable ata checking from kernel, kind of ignoring the stat21:26
tech-o-noxhang on one second, it shouldn't be commented out should it?21:26
OerHeksnope, i thought you placed that # to write the line, please pastbin the limits.conf on paste.ubuntu.com21:27
tech-o-noxOerHeks: http://pastebin.com/VnTyjELf21:28
dafhew"Unknown media type in type 'all/all'"21:29
OerHekstech-o-nox, uncomment line 47 48 ?21:29
tech-o-noxi know why i missed that, i assumed these settings were already in place before i changed them21:30
OerHeksthen sysctl -p21:30
k1ldafhew: what command gives that error?21:30
RxMcDonaldHello, I'm having a little issue with my laptop's AC, best explained here http://askubuntu.com/questions/830053/laptop-doesnt-detect-ac-adapter-on-ubuntu-but-works-on-windows21:31
tech-o-noxOerHeks: did that , is there a way to check if the setting has been applied?21:31
RxMcDonaldcould anyone shed some light into this? It only happens on ubuntu21:32
reisioRxMcDonald: as opposed to?21:32
OerHeksulimit -Hn && ulimit -Sn21:32
reisioRxMcDonald: Windows?21:32
RxMcDonaldreisio: yep21:32
k1lRxMcDonald: what laptop is it?21:32
tech-o-nox409621:32
tech-o-nox102421:32
tech-o-noxopened a new terminal window just in case21:33
RxMcDonaldk1l: it's a lenovo y58021:33
reisioRxMcDonald: so you booted into Windows and it charges, and then immediately booted into Ubuntu and it isn't?21:33
OerHekstech-o-nox, did you edit /etc/pam.d/common-session too? >> https://underyx.me/2015/05/18/raising-the-maximum-number-of-file-descriptors21:33
RxMcDonaldreisio: maybe try reading the link I posted? It has all the info about the issue21:34
OerHekssession required pam_limits.so21:34
RxMcDonaldhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/830053/laptop-doesnt-detect-ac-adapter-on-ubuntu-but-works-on-windows21:34
reisioRxMcDonald: mmm, nevermind21:34
tech-o-noxwill do now21:34
RxMcDonaldreisio: ya it's easier if you read that since typing all here wouldn't be a good idea21:35
OerHekstech-o-nox, for more reading http://askubuntu.com/questions/594765/ubuntu-14-04-cant-get-past-4096-max-open-files-for-non-root-user http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21515463/how-to-increase-maximum-file-open-limit-ulimit-in-ubuntu21:35
reisioit's not if I want to confirm something21:35
reisioonly a response from you can do that, but I've lost interest21:35
OerHekswith systemD things change, and ulimits will be easier https://sskaje.me/systemd-ulimit/ per service21:36
reisioI can think of another init system that has per-service ulimit :)21:36
RxMcDonaldreisio: it's not what you are thinking21:36
OerHeksRxMcDonald, reset your hardware ( battery out>in) and try again, maybe your bios doing this.21:37
RxMcDonaldreisio: either way no, it started happening on ubuntu21:37
reisioRxMcDonald: I'm not thinking anything about your situation, sorry21:37
tech-o-noxOerHeks: yes but still wierd, nothing indicates a 16K limit, and both with nginx as with another http server21:37
RxMcDonaldOerHeks: yea tried that and now it's charging on windows21:37
RxMcDonaldOerHeks: hadnt tried on windows21:37
RxMcDonaldreisio: you said "wanted to confirm something"21:38
RxMcDonaldreisio: why I always get trolled in this channel?21:38
tech-o-noxhave to reboot to have things take effect, brb21:39
RxMcDonaldOerHeks: should I boot back into ubuntu?21:39
OerHeksRxMcDonald, after pulling the battery yes21:40
OerHeksclean boot21:40
RxMcDonaldOerHeks: it charged 16% either way shouldn't I be able to use my computer without the battery?21:40
RxMcDonaldi used to be able to do it, tried it and didnt work21:40
k1lRxMcDonald: well, looking for your model and charger give a lot of users complaining about it not working.21:40
RxMcDonaldk1l: :O21:40
RxMcDonaldk1l: i've owned it for almost 2 years now and I never had issues until i started using it with an adapter with lower amperage21:41
RxMcDonaldeither way it's working fine on windows21:42
debkadRxMcDonald: seem like something to change on your bios21:43
tech-o-noxOerHeks: ulimit is still default on 1024 with a terminal session21:44
RxMcDonaldI used the computer without the battery before now it's not working, that is not cool21:44
OerHeks"with an adapter with lower amperage" is totally unimportant information21:44
RxMcDonaldwell, that is what caused the issue21:44
debkadlower amperage is fine the inverse is risky21:45
RxMcDonaldlower amperage caused the computer to turn to battery21:45
RxMcDonaldthen it decided to stay that way21:45
n-iCeHi guys21:45
OerHeksThere is no solvable issue then.21:45
RxMcDonaldI could go back to ubuntu and see if it fixed itself automagically21:46
OerHekstech-o-nox, maybe you need to write the rule for nginx exclusive?21:46
k1lRxMcDonald: yes21:46
debkadRxMcDonald: best to shutdown the pc, let it incharge for a while before using it21:46
debkador it die completely21:46
tech-o-noxOerHeks: its both with nginx and another http server, i wrote myself, so it's def a system limitation21:46
debkadlow amperage need big time to do the job21:47
RxMcDonalddebkad: die completely?21:47
RxMcDonaldit's charging fine on windows21:47
debkadyeah the battery21:47
RxMcDonaldno, now i'm using the good adapter21:47
RxMcDonaldi have two adapters21:47
RxMcDonaldone at work with lower amperage and this one that is the one that came with the laptop21:47
tech-o-noxOerHeks: i even changed the port range to 13000   65000 , but no luck , still disconnects after 16K open file descriptors21:47
RxMcDonaldi don't take it to work because it weighs 2kg21:48
debkadthat ok too, but best to shutdown , plug it in charge ( no use until some time ) than start to use the pc21:48
tech-o-noxRAM usage is under 50 % and no cpu bottlenecks21:48
RxMcDonaldit's already at 25% now on windows21:48
debkadok do what ever you want21:48
debkaddon't be surprised when it die21:49
RxMcDonaldbut I should be able to use the computer without the battery21:49
debkadok your choice21:49
RxMcDonaldbut it doesn't turn on without it21:49
RxMcDonaldI'm pretty sure I used it without the battery before but can't remember21:50
k1lRxMcDonald: that depends on the mainboard. some manufacturers dont want that.21:50
lordcirthRxMcDonald, normally laptops let you run them without the battery.  But perhaps #hardware will be better able to help.21:50
debkadRxMcDonald: if you want to use it without the battery, unplug the battery, reset the bios, power on it after21:51
RxMcDonalddebkad: reset the bios how?21:51
Techlordcirth: offtopic: can #hardware help with increasing battery life for a laptop? :)21:51
debkadRxMcDonald: check the manual for your laptop or from google21:52
RxMcDonaldu mean flashing the bios? No ty21:52
lordcirthTech, increasing?  I don't know.  They might have advice on preventing wear.21:52
debkadRxMcDonald: no not flashing, reseting21:52
RxMcDonaldalright going back to ubuntu, see if it's fixed21:52
TechI tested it and it shows battery (weak 30)21:52
RxMcDonalddebkad: to default settings or what?21:52
RxMcDonalddebkad: that's pretty easy, this bios only has like 3 settings21:53
RxMcDonaldlooks like I'm not the only one with battery issues today?21:53
Technope21:53
debkadRxMcDonald: there are bios, can be reseted by unpluging the battery, keep pushing the power button for a moment21:54
debkadit depend on the laptop21:54
debkadbetter to check out on google21:55
RxMcDonaldalright, now it says charging, guess it fixed itself automagically21:55
debkadok21:55
RxMcDonaldwhen I removed the battery21:55
RxMcDonaldthanks for the help everyone21:56
tech-o-noxOerHeks: i maybe got something here, if i count the global file desc.  lsof | wc -l  when hitting that limit, and substract it when the http server is shutdown,  i get 65809, file descriptors22:00
bapsI'm trying to copy the contents of a windows partition to an image (so I can easily mount/move later) on a windows share on the network using a 16.04 live CD. Files on the disk total ~40Gb. cp (even with --sparse=always) creates an image almost the size of the partition. dd does the same. Can anyone suggest a way to do this that doesn't copy the unused space?22:00
tech-o-noxso 65K file descriptors being used,  that's also the maximum number of ports per IP on linux22:01
msev--so i'm partitioning in windows, and i'm short of the third partition for swap, but windows says he's got to the maximum partitions and can't partition more22:01
debkadbaps: you can mount the image with loopback then shrink the unused space and then concatenate22:01
k1lmsev--: you can only create 4 primary partitions22:02
uRockmsev--, create one large Extended partition, then put the Linux partitions within it22:02
bapsThanks debkad, one moment I read up on that.22:02
compdocmsev--, be very careful if you have anything worth saving in windows. one mistake and it will all be gone22:03
msev--compdoc, yeah...22:03
msev--sooo... what should i do...22:03
uRockmsev--, create one large Extended partition, then put the Linux partitions within it22:03
debkadbaps: better to defrag on windows before making image22:03
debkadto have best result22:04
msev--i dunno how to make that extended one :/22:05
bapsdebkad: The drive appears to be starting to fail so trying to avoid writes to it in case.22:05
uRockLemme boot my VM and find how22:05
msev--i'm in the disk manager uRock22:05
debkadbaps: the idea is like the one here: http://softwarebakery.com/shrinking-images-on-linux22:05
uRockmsev--, within WIndows, right?22:06
msev--yep22:06
k1lmsev--: just resize the windows partitions from there. you can make the ubuntu partitions on the installer22:06
msev--how if i press create new partition table it deletes all the windows partitions22:07
k1lmsev--: dont create new partition table.22:07
msev--i have two disks, one ssd and one data disk22:07
bapsdebkad: Ahh that's much simpler than what I was reading! I didn't think of shrinking the image after creating it. Thanks! I'll try that.22:07
msev--k11 but i'm one partition short22:07
k1lmsev--: you just need to create new partitions. not the table22:07
debkad:)22:07
msev--(for swap)22:07
msev--i can send you guys a screenshot of how my disks look currenly in windows22:08
msev--but its in slovenian language22:08
k1lmsev--: yes i know. and you were told the solution already twice.22:08
uRockit's taking its sweet time figuring how much I can shrink the volume22:08
k1lmsev--: you can only make 4 primary partitions. but you can put all ubuntu partitions into a extended partition.22:09
msev--i still don't get it how to do that lol22:09
uRockk1l, I am trying to see if he can create that from within WIndows22:10
msev--there is no such option22:10
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k1lmsev--: so just shrink the windows partitions to have enough space. then boot the ubuntu usb and we carry on making partitions from there22:10
Guest42397can anyone help me get my dual shock controller to be recognized on here?22:10
msev--ok i can go back to the live usb session and i'll write what i see there hehe22:11
uRockmsev--,  k1l i correct, Windows will not allow you to create an extended partition from within.22:11
msev--brb22:11
Guest42397nvm lol22:12
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Bashing-ommsev--: There can be but 4 primary partitions; but, one of these primary partitions can be an "extended" partition. In this extended partition can be the logical partitions on which to install ubuntu .22:13
uRockmsev--, You'll have to use GParted in the live image to create the extended volume, then create your partitions within it.22:13
* uRock Note to self, running VM and aircrack at the same is not recommanded.22:14
msev--https://imgur.com/Lf5TT0Q22:21
msev--Does this look legit22:21
msev--uRock and others22:21
k1lmsev--: 50GB for / is too much.22:22
uRockWIndows may throw you some issues, I'd delete the EXT4 and Swap, then create a large extended and put them within it22:22
k1l10-20Gb for / is enough since you have /home excluded22:22
uRockWhat k1l said, too22:23
k1land is this a gpt disk?22:23
msev--Meh gonna leave the 50gb22:23
kk4ewt /boot ?22:23
lordcirtheh I've used 40GB / with most of /home separate22:23
k1lkk4ewt: no need for /boot22:24
msev--So with this settings both oses should boot?22:24
lordcirthAll it takes is a few games22:24
msev--Do i have correct disk for the bootloader22:24
k1lmsev--: is this a gpt disk?22:24
msev--No22:24
msev--Its within gnome22:24
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k1lmsev--: are sda5 and sda6 in an extended partition=22:24
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msev--Dunno man22:25
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uRockmsev--, I'd recommend booting all the way into live image, then use GParted from there, so you can see all of the info k1l is asking for22:25
tech-o-noxOerHeks: thanks for any help22:25
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msev--Ok opening up gparted22:25
debkadmsev--: best to start gparted to be sure22:26
uRockwe just don't want you to break WIndows22:26
tech-o-noxneed to go, bb22:26
msev--Gonna take a pic22:27
uRockno selfies22:27
msev--https://imgur.com/rMsdin422:28
msev--Hahaha22:28
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k1lmsev--: ok. i suggest you delete the extended (sda5) and the sda3. then make a new extended one using al the free space. then put the / the /home and swap inside that22:29
uRockmsev--, click on View, then select device information to see if it is a msdos or gpt22:31
msev--Everything is msdos22:32
msev--i think im gonna continue tommorrow this is too much for today hehe22:32
KNIGHTDXcan someone please tell me why i cant see anything i drag to my desktop actually on my desktop?22:34
msev--Thanks guys hopefully we will continue in a few days :) going in a trip22:34
th0rKNIGHTDX, what desktop are you using?22:35
KNIGHTDXwell i was using gnome on ubuntu 16.04 but i switched back to unity to see if it made a difference and it didnt22:35
th0rKNIGHTDX, my bad...what DE are you using...gnome, xfce, kde?22:35
th0rKNIGHTDX, I am on xfce, and I know that here I can program what the desktop shows. I think gnome is the same way22:37
th0rKNIGHTDX, here i just right click on the desktop to configure it22:37
KNIGHTDXalso i tried to go full screen with a game and my screen wigged out. i mean if i kept minnamizing and maxing the screen i can see it going back and forth  but i cant see anything else22:37
uRockmsev--, have a good one22:38
Henoxekhttps://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=614907#108 wow, what a smart decision to rename /usr/bin/node -> /usr/bin/nodejs and make problems for thousand of developers just to satisfy 1.5 nerds who ever need amateur radio22:38
ubottuDebian bug 614907 in tech-ctte "node: name conflicts with node.js interpreter" [Serious,Open]22:38
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k1lHenoxek: this is not the right channel for plain rantings. thanks22:39
Henoxekk22:40
traskenThis is Knightdx I think I may do a fresh install honestly.  What was the Ubuntu number that was right before unity came out?22:43
k1ltrasken: no need for that. ubuntu ships a lot of desktops. you can choose another one if you dont like unity22:43
uRockWay back in the days of unsupported. Shouldn't need to do that though. One click of a setting should fix your issue.22:44
OerHekstrasken, use the gnome3 version without unity  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME22:44
k1land your "my game broke my desktop" issue is not really unity dependend22:44
traskenYa I know.  But somethings  messing with my graphics anyway. I've had issues with other things as well.22:45
skinuxHow do I tell set whether it is Apache2 or nGinx that starts with the computer?22:46
OerHekssystemctl status name.service or journalctl -b22:48
tlu1how do i notify the kernel of changes to the disk while in live installer mode?22:57
tlu1or should i just reboot and try again?22:58
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reisioskinux: or curl -I http://localhost/22:58
tlu1?22:59
reisiotlu1: to... partitions?22:59
reisiotry 'partprobe'22:59
n-iCehi22:59
tlu1yes, it was formatting and then it said that it couldnt notify the kernel of changes23:00
tlu1this is kubuntu using ubi-partman if that at all helps23:01
tlu1ill try partprobe23:01
tlu1i did the smart thing and google searched it first23:02
tlu1it says that there is an error, and that the device or resource is busy23:04
tlu1i think i will just reboot.23:04
reisiothat'd take care of it23:04
tlu1lets just hope it will work this time23:05
tlu1i have to wait another three years23:06
reisio?23:07
EnemyViolentDoes anyone have any experience with this? https://wiki.debian.org/VGAPassthrough23:07
tlu1nvm23:07
tlu1no23:07
n-iCehow can this be possible?23:07
k1lEnemyViolent: i guess you want to use it for gaming? then just make a dualboot and use windows.23:08
n-iCeMem:           Total7893       Used 2259         Free210 <- memory RAM23:08
tlu1does anybody know of any cheap gpus (<$10) that have a dvi output and cheap shipping23:09
debkadn-iCe: i never understand how free works, some distro take free as free, others take buffers as used/free23:09
k1ln-iCe: what exactly?23:09
reisiotlu1: what outs do you have now?23:10
k1ln-iCe: can you pastebin the full output of "free -m"?23:10
tlu1only vga23:10
reisiotlu1: and you have a monitor with what ins?23:10
n-iCe!pastebin23:10
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:10
n-iCek1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23235708/23:11
tlu1vga and dvi, but the analogue to digital converter is broken, so i can only use dvi23:11
k1ln-iCe: and what is the issue?23:11
Jsynchttp://pasteboard.co/7UlpGir2w.png23:11
reisiotlu1: the monitor's broken?23:11
n-iCek1l: check the numbers23:11
tlu1the adc is broken so vga doesnt work23:12
reisiotlu1: https://www.google.com/search?q=vga%20to%20dvi%20cable23:12
tlu1it just shows random crap23:12
n-iCeI have total 8000MB is using about 1000MB, and free about 1300MB?23:12
Jsynchttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_search_engine23:12
n-iCehow is that possible23:12
k1ln-iCe: look at buffers and cache23:12
n-iCewhat is that k1l23:12
n-iCek1l: looks ok, for you?23:13
JsyncI appreciate you guys. The Global DrakoNet is the correct & sociologically appropriate Data Network.23:13
debkadn-iCe: free -h to see it in mega23:13
k1ln-iCe: this explains it: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/23:13
tlu1vga to dvi doesnt work because its just vga over dvi, thus it needs to convert the analogue vga signal to digital either way23:13
n-iCek1l: so is normal?23:13
n-iCethanks debkad23:13
k1ln-iCe: read my link for the explanation.23:14
reisiotlu1: https://www.google.com/search?q=vga%20dvi%20converter#q=vga+dvi+active+converter23:14
k1lJsync: only ubuntu tehcnical support in here23:14
k1ltlu1: better ask in ##hardware for the video card search23:14
tlu1ok23:15
c00k33-m0st3rdoes anyone know of a way to stream xbox one on ubuntu23:16
tlu1how many floppy disks do you personally own?23:16
tlu1WOAH WOAH WOAH!!!!23:18
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tlu1my computer just crashed VERY dramatically23:18
tlu1ubottu: it was on topic23:19
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tlu1ubottu: lol23:19
tlu1my computer just randomly showed a whole bunch of weird crap and locked up23:20
tlu1#ubottu23:23
debkadc00k33-m0st3r: no idea may be through ftp23:29
debikadtest23:54
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