[00:00] <lordcirth> Cmaj6, boot Windows, and shut it down properly
[00:00] <lordcirth> Cmaj6, you may need to turn Win10's fastboot off
[00:00] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: The splash screen for the Display Manager  is the greeter .
[00:00] <rue_shop4> hmm
[00:00] <rue_shop4> seat0 changes active session to c8
[00:01] <rue_shop4> c8 is already active
[00:01] <rue_shop4> greeter closed channel
[00:01] <rue_shop4> doom/chaos/fail
[00:02] <rue_shop4> so, the session fails because the greeter trips over itself?
[00:02] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: ' cat /usr/share/xsessions/ubuntu.desktop ' what is set for the release name and the DM to be loaded ?
[00:02] <Cmaj6> lordcirth, i just booted windows to check if internet works in there. After verification of internet, i shut down windows properly
[00:02] <lordcirth> Cmaj6, but Windows 10?
[00:03] <Cmaj6> lordcirth, no windows 8
[00:03] <lordcirth> Cmaj6, I think 8 might have it too.  Do a full shutdown with 'shutdown /s /t 0'
[00:04] <rue_shop4> there is no release name in there
[00:04] <rue_shop4> I think the display manager is unity?
[00:04] <rue_shop4> exec=gnome-session --session=ubuntu
[00:05] <Cmaj6> lordcirth, okay i'll try
[00:06] <rue_shop4> oh, antoher error log says,
[00:07] <rue_shop4> org.gnome.sessionmanager was not provided by any .service files
[00:07] <rue_shop4> ?
[00:08] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: Progress ! We are dealing wuth gnome as the DE . Now there is no point in beating our heads againsts a stone wall. is this a supported release ? what returns ' lsb_release -a ' ?
[00:09] <rue_shop4> 16.04
[00:09] <Cmaj6> lordcirth, just started windows, then shutdown with 'shutdown /s /t 0'. Booting Ubuntu and i still have no internet :'(
[00:09] <lordcirth> Cmaj6, ok, so that's one thing ruled out.
[00:10] <rue_shop4> Cmaj6, tell me about it, there is no plug on this laptop for my ethernet cable!
[00:11] <lordcirth> Cmaj6, and you said that you can connect to wifi, but you get no internet access?
[00:11] <rue_shop4> Bashing-om, I'm hoping your going to suggest something really insightfull here
[00:11] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: That do make the cheese mor binding, as 16.04 is systemd, rather than the legacy upstart is the initiate/control system . in that file /usr/share/xsessions/ubuntu.desktop is there " X-LightDM-DesktopName=Unity " ?
[00:14] <rue_shop4> nope
[00:14] <rue_shop4> shall I add it?
[00:15] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: As 16.04 - systemd - we let the system do it's thing to determine what the DE is . try ' systemctl isolate graphical.target ' from that terminal .
[00:15]  * rue_shop4 gets another little peice of paper
[00:16] <rue_shop4> hmm
[00:16] <Vapez> Hello, i have the following eror after i apt-get autoremove - error: can't find command `linux'.
[00:16] <Vapez> error: can't find command `initrd'.
[00:16] <Vapez> i autoremove this http://pastebin.com/q56tB48r
[00:16] <Vapez> how can i fix it?
[00:16] <rue_shop4> it ran plymouth-start.service and gave the command line back
[00:17] <rue_shop4> oh
[00:17] <rue_shop4> an error
[00:18] <rue_shop4> failed to start graphical.targetreset.target operation failed  operaton refused, may not be isolated
[00:19] <rue_shop4> ah, I did as the user and the result was different
[00:20] <rue_shop4> we are nolonger a registered auth agent
[00:21] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: Well, when all else fails read the directions . pastebin: ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' . Will have to install the tool ' sudo apt install pastebinit ' . The result is a URL back in terminal, pass that link back here .
[00:21] <rue_shop4> arg, its not on the network
[00:22] <rue_shop4> thats a really awkward hoop
[00:22] <Vapez> Hello, i have the following eror after i apt-get autoremove - error: can't find command `linux'.
[00:22] <Vapez> i autoremove this http://pastebin.com/q56tB48r
[00:22] <rue_shop4> Bashing-om, what result are we looking for from that last command?
[00:23] <rue_shop4> how about adding X-LightDM-DesktopName=Unity   to  ubuntu.desktop?
[00:23] <rue_shop4> maybe I have a usb-ethernet adapter...
[00:23] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: K. well we can hunt an peck . " nolonger a registered auth agenr " >> what returns ' ls -al .ICEauthority ; ls -al .Xauthority ' ?
[00:25] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: That Xorg.0.log log file is a running commentary on what is going on in the Xserver .
[00:27] <rue_shop4> there are no errors in the x log
[00:27] <rue_shop4> from what I can see, the session manager bails when the greeter fails
[00:27] <rue_shop4> 1 sec
[00:28] <rue_shop4> they both exist and have size
[00:29] <rue_shop4> hah, it found the usb adapter, and dhclient got it on the network, but the dns servers weren't set and /etc/resolv.conf dosn't exist
[00:34] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: Similar " -rw------- 1 sysop sysop 209 Jul 28 15:28 .Xauthority " where I am "systop" that I own and am grouped to these files ? .. and to start networkiong from terminal ' systemctl enable NetworkManager.service ; systemctl start NetworkManager.service ' .
[00:35] <rue_shop4> ah, ice* is owned by the user and xauth* is owned by root
[00:35] <rue_shop4> both are 600
[00:35] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: K. then "you" do not have the authority to access the desk top ! .
[00:36] <rue_shop4> oh, k
[00:36] <rue_shop4> 1 min
[00:39] <rue_shop4> fixing that didn't change things
[00:39] <orlock_> rue_shop4: Have you tried turning it off and on again? :)
[00:39] <rue_shop4> :) thanks, I did a reboot after fixing the permissions
[00:39] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: run ' sudo chown <USERNAME>:<USERNAME> .Xauthority ' where USERNAME is the login ID on this system .
[00:40] <rue_shop4> it SHOULD be 600 as the user right?
[00:40] <rue_shop4> yea
[00:40] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: Cinfirm, 600 .
[00:40] <Bashing-om> confirm*
[00:41] <rue_shop4> yup
[00:41] <rue_shop4> -rw------
[00:41] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: correct.
[00:43] <rue_shop4> the network manager didn't dhcp the network interface...
[00:43] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: Nother stab in the dark - lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' - returns what ?
[00:44] <rue_shop4> I'm not one for new fangled things, but I dont see much love for a systemd future
[00:44] <bumblefuzz> why won't VLC scale my video?
[00:44] <orlock_> rue_shop4: the choice has already been made, it's not up to us :-(
[00:44] <orlock_> rue_shop4: I don't like it either
[00:44] <bumblefuzz> when I play a video, it plays small and when I try to make the window larger, it just puts blue borders around it
[00:45] <bumblefuzz> I just installed ubuntu
[00:45] <rue_shop4> nothing in use
[00:45] <bumblefuzz> does anyone know why VLC won't scale its video properly?
[00:45] <orlock_> Maybe it depends on your video card and drivers
[00:45] <rue_shop4> bumblefuzz, some decoders dont seem to be able to scale the video to full screen
[00:46] <uRock> Sometimes you  have to click video>aspect ratio bumblefuzz
[00:46] <bumblefuzz> ok, so what should I do?
[00:46] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: Well, then we know no driver is loaded for graohics . so now we find out what the card is and what the driver should be ,, and get it installed . And now we could really use networking . need to see ' lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'  ' .
[00:47] <ahmed751995> excuse me , i can't install any operating system to my pc i can see my partition when use ubuntu or fedora live but when it come to scanning partition while installing it stop ?
[00:48] <uRock> UEFI?
[00:48] <rue_shop4> intel
[00:49] <rue_shop4> remember, startx worked, less session manager
[00:49] <ahmed751995> uRock: i don't know
[00:49] <rue_shop4> brought up gui and his desktop
[00:49] <uRock> ahmed751995, you'd have to check in BIOS, I believe I was having that same issue on my kid's PC, which came with Windows 8
[00:49] <rue_shop4> and there are no fatal errors in xorg logs
[00:50] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: No other hardware listed than Intel ? And we still have to have a driver " in use" to have a GUI .
[00:50] <rue_shop4> but x isnt' going
[00:52] <orlock_> rue_shop4: is it your window manager or session manager thats not starting?
[00:53] <rue_shop4> it kinda looks like the session manager goes down cause the greeter fails
[00:54] <ahmed751995_> what is the solution now
[00:55] <uRock> restart the system and go into BIOS to see what it is using? When you boot into live boot, what partition table is being used? ahmed751995_
[00:56] <OerHeks> ahmed751995_, boot into live mode, and see with diskmanager how man primairy partitions you have ( max 4)
[00:56] <rue_shop4> Intel Iris pro graphics
[00:56] <OerHeks> that would skip seeking on that disk too.
[00:56] <rue_shop4> HD graphics 4000
[00:56] <uRock> OerHeks, good call
[00:57] <ahmed751995_> OerHeks: i have 2 ntfs and 1 for boot and 2 ext4
[00:58] <uRock> ahmed751995_, GPT or MBS partition table?
[00:58] <uRock> MBR
[00:59] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: laptop machine ? used to be that the boot  parameter " acpi_osi=Linux  " or some such was required for the HD graphics 4000 .
[00:59] <ahmed751995_> when i tried use gparted i got this output : Assertion (metadata_length > 0) at ../../../libparted/labels/dos.c:2313 in function add_logical_part_metadata() failed.
[01:00] <uRock> ahmed751995_, sounds like you should try deleting EXT partitions and create an Extended partition to create the EXTand SWAP partitions within
[01:00] <orlock_> Bashing-om: His graphics work though
[01:00] <rue_shop4> yes, laptop
[01:01] <rue_shop4> Bashing-om, ok, but I can run startx...
[01:01] <orlock_> Can you get xeyes to appear too?
[01:01] <rue_shop4> no, it wont bring up terminal
[01:02] <orlock_> You don't need it to
[01:02] <rue_shop4> just a desktop with all his files on it, and the X cursor
[01:02] <rue_shop4> yea, but bring up 50 xeyes is good for 5 mins of giggles
[01:02] <ahmed751995_> i will try and i will come back if i faced any problem
[01:03] <orlock_> rue_shop4: sounds weird, if you see a desktop and files then you should have a window manager
[01:03] <orlock_> i'd start from basics, just X, then bring up an xterm and then a simple wm
[01:03] <ahmed751995_> uRock: i can't delet disks i get error and gparted doesn't open
[01:04] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: And I do not know what the command 'startx' would do in an unknown environment . That command has limited DE applications say xfce or wm3 .
[01:04] <rue_shop4> Bashing-om, so, to recap, to manually start the gui...
[01:05] <orlock_> X &
[01:05] <orlock_> always worked for me
[01:05] <rue_shop4> nope, sorry cant find it again
[01:05] <rue_shop4> realy?
[01:06] <orlock_> well, you get X
[01:06] <rue_shop4> with session managers and cr**?
[01:06] <rue_shop4> no
[01:06] <orlock_> no
[01:06] <orlock_> you get that funky blakc and white background
[01:06] <rue_shop4> I need to manually start the session manager than right?
[01:06] <rue_shop4> which is, unity?
[01:06] <orlock_> no, from there you can go straight to window manager
[01:06] <orlock_> unsure
[01:06] <orlock_> i feel like a dinosaur sometimes
[01:06] <rue_shop4> I dont know what unity is
[01:06] <rue_shop4> ditto
[01:08] <rue_shop4> unity needs to open after X is running
[01:08] <rue_shop4> ugh
[01:08] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: No matter the DE, 16.04 - systemd - terminal command ' sudo systemctl start graphical.target ' "should" start the GUI, but,  it also stops everything that is not a dependancy of graphical.target .
[01:08] <rue_shop4> ah
[01:10] <rue_shop4> so its odd that just gives the cursor back and nothing happens?
[01:10] <rue_shop4> no, errors or anything?
[01:11]  * rue_shop4 smells a broken systemd
[01:14] <rue_shop4> hmm, does absolutly nothing
[01:15] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: Hey, got me too . OK.. ' sudo lshw -C display ' gives unclaimed ? and in the configuration line no driver is listed ???
[01:18] <rue_shop4> no, its all there
[01:21] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: Humm still unknown the DE, but what shows ' /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p -f ' for the status and driver ?
[01:24] <rue_shop4> unable to open display, but I dont ahve an x server going
[01:25] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: Yeah, yeah .. I should have expected that .
[01:26] <rue_shop4> if I do startx xterm  it'll bring up xterm in X right?
[01:26] <orlock> you might have x authority issues
[01:27] <rue_shop4> we changed it to user permission
[01:27] <orlock> maybe startx & xhost + ; export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 ; xterm
[01:29] <rue_shop4> ok I have an xterm in X
[01:30] <rue_shop4> Bashing-om, the support test is all green
[01:32] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: Looks then as it is a config issue in the DE . not a driver issue ?? // Is this unity ' dpkg -l ubuntu-session ' is the return " ii " .
[01:33] <rue_shop4> iU
[01:33] <rue_shop4> ?
[01:34] <darkdrgn2k> hi all
[01:34] <darkdrgn2k> im moving from win 7 to Ubuntu, but im torn between what windows manager to use.. any sugestions?
[01:34] <rue_shop4> unpacked!?
[01:34] <rue_shop4> Bashing-om, how can I ask the package manager to finish anything its in the middle of?
[01:36] <rue_shop4> I'm used to apt, with --fix-missing
[01:36] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: yeah . iU == UNgood . desired status is (I)nstalled, but it is not fully installed . still we do not have confirmation this is the unity DE running under lightdm .
[01:37] <rue_shop4> k
[01:37] <rue_shop4> if I get back into X what would I run to manage packages?
[01:38] <rue_shop4> I dont see synaptic installed, I dont know what ubuntu uses
[01:38]  * rue_shop4 uses apt, casue he's a debian guy
[01:38] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: Well, if we know that wasa required package - and it might well be ; we could see what results ' sudo apt install -- reinstall ubuntu-session ' see what the package manager does and tells us . But this is a IFffy thing still .
[01:39] <rue_shop4> hey, a possable interpretation of something the owner of this said, is that it COULD have crahsed during the upgrade
[01:41] <rue_shop4> "dpkg was interrupted..."
[01:41] <rue_shop4> interesting
[01:41] <rue_shop4> oh hello
[01:41] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: Ouch ! OK .. we can deal with that fialeed upgrade .. now that do make a bit of sense . .. what results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' ?
[01:41] <rue_shop4> yup, it was part way thru an install
[01:42] <rue_shop4> I'm letting dpkg --configure -a finish
[01:42] <rue_shop4> LOTS of packages weren't finished yet
[01:43] <rue_shop4> yea, youknow, this is going to take a while
[01:43] <rue_shop4> :)
[01:46] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: Slap me on the wrist - again - 1st law of troubleshooting .. is the system fully updated ? !
[01:47] <darkdrgn2k> whats a good alterative in linux for dreamweaver
[01:47] <rue_shop4> I took what he said as ' it crashed after the upgrade'
[01:47] <cfhowlett> darkdrgn2k, http://www.linuxalt.com/linux-alternatives-to/windows/dreamweaver.html
[02:01] <debkad> hello, first time i use weechat
[02:01] <cfhowlett> debkad, what is your ubuntu question?
[02:02] <minecraftkid55> hey guys
[02:02] <minecraftkid55> i need help with installing minecraft on my ubuntu
[02:02] <minecraftkid55> it isn't working
[02:02] <minecraftkid55> it gives me an error code 403
[02:03] <minecraftkid55> and im not sure
[02:03] <cfhowlett> minecraftkid55, open a terminal. type in lsb_release -a               paste the output here
[02:04] <minecraftkid55> cfhowlett: how do i put that in
[02:04] <cfhowlett> minecraftkid55, open     a     terminal.
[02:04] <minecraftkid55> how i am using cinnamon i think
[02:04] <matt4885> Hit the start button on the top left, type in terminal
[02:04] <matt4885> oh in that case, hit the button on the bottom left and type terminal
[02:04] <minecraftkid55> oh ok i opened the terminal
[02:04] <minecraftkid55> and i typed the thing in
[02:04] <matt4885> then type "lsb_release -a" without the quotes
[02:05] <obelisk29_> The terminal is your friend
[02:05] <cfhowlett> indeed ^^^
[02:05] <minecraftkid55> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	LinuxMint Description:	Linux Mint 18 Sarah Release:	18 Codename:	sarah
[02:05] <debkad> cfhowlett: sorry didn't see your request as i use weechat, new to me anyway, I installed lubuntu 14.04.3 and upgraded it, how i can check that i'm in the newest 14.04.x serie
[02:05] <cfhowlett> minecraftkid55, you are on mint. not supported here in ubuntu
[02:05] <cfhowlett> !mint | minecraftkid55
[02:05] <cfhowlett> debkad, and your ubuntu question is ???
[02:05] <minecraftkid55> u guys r mean
[02:06] <RedStickHam> run ubuntu mate here
[02:06] <obelisk29_> LOL
[02:06] <matt4885> you can only do so much
[02:06] <debkad> cfhowlett: Am i in the newest release or not, thats my question
[02:06] <cfhowlett> debkad, the current 14.04 release is 14.04.3   iirc
[02:07] <debkad> thank you cfhowlett
[02:07] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[02:07] <freefall> question all.. how do i set nvidia driver for opengl to performace an make it stay there an not return to quality at reboot
[02:08] <matt4885> dumb question freefall but you are clicking the save question right? not trying to sound condescending but I've done things like that before
[02:08] <rue_shop4> yup, its ok now!
[02:08] <CoolShadow12> guys type sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root / in the terminal to make your linux faster
[02:08] <rue_shop4> Bashing-om, thankyou.
[02:08] <cfhowlett> !danger | CoolShadow12
[02:08] <cfhowlett> !ops | CoolShadow12
[02:09] <freefall> matt4885, it dont give this option
[02:09] <Bashing-om> rue_shop4: Up and running ?
[02:09] <rue_shop4> yup
[02:09] <rue_shop4> helps when the other 108 packages are finished being installed :)
[02:09] <CoolShadow12> sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
[02:09] <CoolShadow12> run it
[02:09] <cfhowlett> CoolShadow12, go away jackass
[02:09] <CoolShadow12> why am i a jackass
[02:09] <CoolShadow12> that's PA
[02:09] <obelisk29_> No one thinks you're funny
[02:09] <linuxman> hey guys
[02:09] <linuxman> any cool commands i can run
[02:09] <CoolShadow12> sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
[02:09] <CoolShadow12> yes
[02:09] <linuxman> ok
[02:09] <matt4885> so on the openGL settings, where you can move the slider
[02:09] <linuxman> ill try it
[02:10] <cfhowlett> linuxman, no
[02:10] <DalekSec> CoolShadow12: Please don't do that here.
[02:10] <linuxman> im trying it
[02:10] <obelisk29_> Plz no
[02:10] <linuxman> whats it doing
[02:10] <linuxman> i ran it
[02:10] <cfhowlett> linuxman, "cool commands"??? please be more vague
[02:10] <matt4885> once you move it, and then go to "nvidia-settings Configuration" all the way on the bottom in the sidebar, there isn't a "Save Current Configuration'
[02:10] <freefall> matt4885, it say save current configuration in nvidia-setting configuration.. an it pop up a save window of where to save the info.. not sure how useful that is..
[02:10] <linuxman> cfhowlett: command
[02:10] <Bashing-om> rumflump: Well, on the bright side, we can stop sweating the samll stuff now .
[02:10] <obelisk29_> 0_o
[02:10] <matt4885> save it to your home directory
[02:10] <cfhowlett> linuxman, no you did not.  are your two sitting in the came internet cafe or somethings?  please play elsewhere
[02:11] <linuxman> cfhowlett: no
[02:11] <linuxman> i lolove linux
[02:11] <cfhowlett> !ask | linuxman
[02:11] <freefall> matt4885, i thought this was a back up setting option.. but ill give it a spin
[02:11] <matt4885> yes try that, save it. its a "hidden file" in your home directory..you might need to reboot but im not 100% sure
[02:11] <linuxpro65> Guys, I am a certified linux pro. And this command is revolutionary: sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
[02:12] <linuxman> i already ran that
[02:12] <linuxman> what does it do
[02:12] <cfhowlett> !ops | linuxman
[02:12] <linuxpro65> Guys, I am a certified linux pro. And this command is revolutionary: sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
[02:12] <linuxman> linuxpro65: what does it do
[02:12] <cfhowlett> linuxpro65 and linuxman you are not funny nor are you particularly clever.  go away to play somewhere else  now
[02:12] <linuxpro65> Guys, I am a certified linux pro. And this command is revolutionary: sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
[02:12] <linuxman> !ops
[02:13] <cfhowlett> !ops | linuxpro65 linuxman   please ban the ip
[02:13] <linuxman> !ops
[02:13] <debkad> he ops himself :D
[02:13] <linuxman> !ops | cfhowlett
[02:13] <LinuxMASTER2> i am a LINUX MASTER anything you ask me to do and i can do it
[02:13] <obelisk29_> Does anyone else run their updating procedure in one cmd like such, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:13] <cfhowlett> !ops | LinuxMASTER2,
[02:13] <obelisk29_> Is that sort of thing discouraged?
[02:13] <LinuxMASTER2> yeah all the time
[02:14] <LinuxMASTER2> why are you calling ops on me
[02:14] <cfhowlett> obelisk29_, I do.  it works
[02:14] <LinuxMASTER2> what did i do
[02:14] <debkad> linuxman: what is your problem
[02:14] <orlock> LinuxMASTER2: Ok
[02:14] <LinuxMASTER2> i just said that i'm good at linux
[02:14] <linuxman> !ops | debkad
[02:14] <cfhowlett> debkad, he is trolling.  best to ignore
[02:14] <orlock> LinuxMASTER2: Your IP is showing and your ports are open
[02:14] <LinuxMASTER2> what?
[02:14] <orlock> LinuxMASTER2: I just wrote a GUI in visual basic
[02:14] <obelisk29_> I've been too, I just wanted to get other people's thoughts on if it's bad practice or not.
[02:14] <orlock> LinuxMASTER2: I'm backtracing your Ip as we speak
[02:14] <LinuxMASTER2> dude that's hacking
[02:15] <orlock> I'm through your firewall
[02:15] <freefall> lol orlock
[02:15] <LinuxMASTER2> damn
[02:15] <orlock> I'M ONTO YOUR LAN
[02:15] <LinuxMASTER2> stop that
[02:15] <debkad> :D
[02:15] <cfhowlett> note to all: in hexchat, rightclick the user name and ignore trolls.
[02:15] <orlock> OH MY GOD WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THOSE PHOTO'S! I'm CALLING THE FBI!
[02:15] <LinuxMASTER2> how am i trolling
[02:16] <freefall> cfhowlett, what about xchat?
[02:16] <LinuxMASTER2> what is my real ip
[02:16] <debkad> i tried something about ignore on him i think it worked
[02:16] <LinuxMASTER2> you cant get that info
[02:16] <debkad> oh no
[02:16] <LinuxMASTER2> thats ddoxting
[02:16] <cfhowlett> freefall, you should not be using xchat at all.  unsupported
[02:16] <cfhowlett> !xchat | freefall
[02:17] <freefall> then why was i able to download it?
[02:17] <cfhowlett> quiet will not work on trolls.  ban requested
[02:17] <dax> works fine so far.
[02:17] <cfhowlett> freefall, doesn't really matter know.  delete and install hexchat for best results
[02:18] <linuxprofessiona> orlock: needs to stop ddoxting people
[02:18] <linuxprofessiona> it isn't cool
[02:18] <freefall> it was on the repository?
[02:18] <linuxprofessiona> yes\
[02:19] <obelisk29_> MODS = GODS
[02:19] <debkad> he hang him
[02:22] <debkad> cfhowlett: weechat is good or i must change it?
[02:22] <dax> weechat is fine
[02:22] <cfhowlett> debkad, never used it but it is still supported.
[02:22] <debkad> the beep not working :/
[02:22] <debkad> thank you
[02:23] <debkad> i will install beep and see may be it is missing
[02:24] <obelisk29_> Does anyone have any ideas why my nm-applet always fritzes out and stops showing wifi's, and i have to pkill nm-applet and start it again?
[02:25] <debkad> obelisk29_: i think when it freeze check the log
[02:25] <debkad> that will tel you may be whats wrong
[02:25] <joseph> Like after it sleeps? Or just randomely?
[02:26] <SpaghettiDoodles> dax: you're gay xd
[02:26] <SpaghettiDoodles> dax: you're gay xd
[02:26] <SpaghettiDoodles> dax: you're gay xd
[02:26] <SpaghettiDoodles> dax: you're gay xd
[02:26] <SpaghettiDoodles> dax: you're gay xd
[02:26] <cfhowlett> ban please, not quiet TheRedQueen
[02:26] <dax> it's a bot.
[02:26] <cfhowlett> ahhhhh right.  sorry, dax
[02:27] <obelisk29_> debkad: dmesg or another log?
[02:27]  * cfhowlett thinks you want hacks?  Because teaching nitwits to code is how you get hacks.
[02:27] <orlock> cfhowlett: nah, nitwits can download exploits, coding them takes skill
[02:28] <debkad> obelisk29_: syslog or journal or whatever you use
[02:30] <orb978945> does the current ubuntu use dbus?
[02:30] <dax> orb978945: yes
[02:31] <orb978945> dax can it function without dbus?
[02:31] <dax> orb978945: no, current ubuntu uses systemd, which requires it
[02:36] <orb978945> dax has a lot of the code changed the past year or so?
[02:36] <orb978945> or say from after ubuntu 12
[02:37] <dax> umm
[02:37] <dax> ubuntu 12.04 is from 4 years ago. yes, a lot's changed.
[02:37] <cfhowlett> are you asking if there have been significant code changes over the past 4 years/8 releases?   errrrr .... yes?
[02:37] <freefall> to whoever suggested hexchat thanks... it almost reminds me of mirc..
[02:37] <orb978945> I see the topic says 12.04 is supported still.
[02:37] <dax> ubuntu switched to systemd in 2015, so i guess that's a major change for you if you care about dbus for some reason
[02:37] <dax> yes, until 2017
[02:37] <cfhowlett> orb978945, true.
[02:38] <OerHeks> orb978945, HAL has gone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Bus
[02:38] <orb978945> So 12.04 is prior to witching in 2015 true dax?
[02:39] <dax> what does "witching" mean
[02:39] <dax> and yes, 2012 is earlier than 2015 :P
[02:39] <orb978945> switching, dax
[02:39] <dax> ah
[02:39]  * cfhowlett consults digital calendar and confirms dax's statement
[02:39] <dax> 12.04 uses upstart, indeed
[02:53]  * jeremy__ 
[02:53] <cluelessperson> question, how to restart pulseaudio on ubuntu?
[02:53]  * jeremy__ 
[02:54] <cluelessperson> I get permission denied as root...
[02:56] <wabbits> cluelessperson are you using root as your normal user acccount?
[02:56] <cluelessperson> wabbits, no
[02:56] <wabbits> good as your normal user execute `pulseaudio -k` and pulseaudio will restart
[02:58] <cluelessperson> wabbits,   I cannot get the hdmi audio to engage
[02:59] <wabbits> not sure I understand can you say that another way?
[02:59] <cluelessperson> wabbits,   I've connected hdmi to my machine.  I cannot get the hdmi audio to engage
[02:59] <cluelessperson> or have audio play through the hdmi
[02:59] <wabbits> got it.
[02:59] <cluelessperson> I've only been able to get it to work, by restarting my machine WHILE hdmi is plugged in
[02:59] <cluelessperson> which is stupid and a pain in the ass
[03:00] <wabbits> run pavucontrol and look at the output tab and tell me what devices are listed.
[03:00] <cluelessperson> wabbits,   Built In Audio Digital Stereo (HDMI 2)
[03:00] <wabbits> is that it?
[03:00] <cluelessperson> Built in Audio Analog Stereo
[03:01] <cluelessperson> LADSPA Plugin Multiband EQ on Built-in Audio Analog stereo
[03:01] <cluelessperson> wabbits,  there are also "ports"  hdmi is showing "pluggined in"
[03:02] <wabbits> ok so play some audio and select the proper output device on the playback tab.
[03:02] <cluelessperson> wabbits, the audio is playing, HDMI 2 is selected now, and no audio is coming out
[03:03] <wabbits> cluelessperson head over to the #pulseaudio channel
[03:07] <jerichowasahoax> I can just dd the Ubuntu ISO to a USB drive and call it a day, right?
[03:12] <Bashing-om> jerichowasahoax: Yeah from a linux install ' sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync ' will serve nicely .
[03:12] <SchrodingersScat> jerichowasahoax: yep, should
[03:14] <debkad> beep.pl
[03:15] <SchrodingersScat> !pl | debkad
[03:15] <debkad> o_o
[03:16] <debkad> SchrodingersScat: thanks but that was my mistakes
[03:16] <jerichowasahoax> SchrodingersScat: I think that was a filename, not a beep at Polish people
[03:16] <SchrodingersScat> debkad: I'm sorry, I don't speak a word of polish.
[03:16] <cfhowlett> nor does he ...
[03:16] <debkad> no problem
[03:17] <debkad> i was to test some plugins in weechat and forget to add /
[03:17] <jerichowasahoax> debkad: that's why i usually do that in the status window
[03:19] <evanvarvell> ...
[03:21] <newnickname> how can i connect into the irc with ssl encryption?
[03:21] <gtxbb> newnickname, i know hexchat supports it
[03:21] <orlock> newnickname: that would depend on the irc client?
[03:21] <newnickname> okay irc client is irssi
[03:21] <gtxbb> newnickname, easiest way to find out is to google terms "irssi ssl" :)
[03:22] <newnickname> :_)
[03:23] <jerichowasahoax> does freenode support SSL connections though
[03:23] <jerichowasahoax> that's the next question
[03:25] <SchrodingersScat> jerichowasahoax: yes, check out SASL iirc
[03:25] <gtxbb> why ask questions that is so well put in place on freenode's wiki?
[03:25] <SchrodingersScat> or their FAQ
[03:25] <gtxbb> freenode also has a irc channel
[03:25] <gtxbb> (#freenode) -- no offense
[03:25] <SchrodingersScat> !freenode | gtxbb
[03:25] <jerichowasahoax> gtxbb: because it was mostly a rhetorical question and i didn't notice the user had already /quit
[03:25] <gtxbb> SchrodingersScat, sorry im not asking :)
[03:29] <gtxbb> jerichowasahoax, you mean it was a "benign" question.  a rhetorical question means a question you already know the answer to. :)
[03:29] <jerichowasahoax> gtxbb: I was under the impression that "rhetorical" referred to a question to which no answer was expected
[03:30] <gtxbb> jerichowasahoax, no it means you already know the answer to -- apparently you haven't watched enough political debates :)
[03:30] <clara> I forgot the password of my 7z file, what are my options ???
[03:30] <random1> why i am getting this error while doing packaging in deb (OS ubuntu 16.04 lts) http://paste.ubuntu.com/23232304/
[03:30] <jerichowasahoax> gtxbb: either way, i still kinda knew about SASL beforehand, though only vague mutterings since I don't personally care enough about encrypting traffic that gets publicly logged anyway ;-)
[03:31] <fossify> yes
[03:32] <clara> I forgot the password of my 7z file, what are my options to oped it and get my files???
[03:32] <gtxbb> jerichowasahoax, encryption is always broken imho -- i couldn't care less if i was using encryption or not
[03:32] <gtxbb> (except the best possible available i can use for banking..-- of course)
[03:33] <jerichowasahoax> clara: you could brute force it if you don't mind letting it run for an absurd amount of time
[03:34] <jerichowasahoax> clara: and by "absurd amount of time" i mean on the order of a couple months to a couple years
[03:34] <debkad> yeah brute forcing is a real pain
[03:34] <jerichowasahoax> clara: other than that, your only salvation is that you somehow remember the password
[03:34] <rexwin_> how to find whether default-jdk is already installed or not on my system?
[03:35] <debkad> there are some scripts on the net can help a little about that
[03:35] <Some_Person> I have a box that has a bizarre issue with proprietary nvidia drivers, on both Windows and Linux! It has an 8600 GTS connected to an old CRT. The problem is that when it boots, the monitor shows no signal. Other (more modern) monitors I have work fine. In Windows, taking a screenshot of the Nvidia Control Panel while the issue is occuring shows that for whatever reason, it wrongly detects the VGA monitor as being connected via
[03:35] <Some_Person> DVI! (it is technically connected to a DVI port through an adapter, but this is still clearly wrong). On Windows, the issue occurs on all drivers after a certain point. I haven't determined the exact last working version, but it is somewhere between 182.50 (works) and 197.15 (doesn't work)
[03:35] <jerichowasahoax> rexwin_: run "java" and see if it throws an error?
[03:35] <clara> jerichowasahoax: how to brute force giving that i know how many digits and some words i used in the password ??
[03:35] <Some_Person> Apart from just using nouveau (which doesn't have this problem), what can I do about this on ubuntu?
[03:35] <rexwin_> java shows Usage options
[03:35] <debkad> crunch or john for example clara
[03:36] <clara> debkad ; which one is easir and better ?
[03:36] <debkad> clara: john
[03:36] <debkad> is a little intelligent compared to crunch
[03:37] <jerichowasahoax> Some_Person: nvidia has a habit of dropping support for their cards after certain driver versions
[03:37] <Some_Person> jerichowasahoax: That's not what I'm running into. The 8600 GTS is supported on newer drivers; for whatever weird ass reason it just doesn't like my monitor
[03:37] <Some_Person> And as I said, it works on other monitors I have lying around
[03:37] <jerichowasahoax> Some_Person: define "newer"
[03:37] <debkad> clara: it have also a specific new scripts like rar2john ... may be 7z2john and using hash
[03:38] <Some_Person> jerichowasahoax: The monitor is a Samtron 76DF, a CRT dated 2002.
[03:38] <debkad> clara: you can google about those to get better idea
[03:38] <clara> ok thnks
[03:38] <jerichowasahoax> Some_Person: define "newer" in terms of nvidia drivers versions
[03:38] <Some_Person> Everything else I've tried it with is an LCD
[03:38] <Some_Person> jerichowasahoax: I have determined that, on Windows, 197.15 and above has this issue
[03:39] <Some_Person> Possibly slightly older than that
[03:39] <Some_Person> 182.50 works, but I haven't tested anything between that and 197.15
[03:39] <hello> Can you run ubuntu on 1 gig of ram
[03:39] <Some_Person> I know that these days those are practically considered ancient driver versions
[03:40] <gtxbb> hello, possible
[03:40] <debkad> hello: i'm using lubuntu on 1G ram
[03:40] <debkad> hello: it is related to the desktop ( xfce, lxde ... ) or wm
[03:41] <cfhowlett> hello, technically, yes.  lubuntu would be faster though
[03:41] <hello> Does gui matter?
[03:41] <jerichowasahoax> hello: yes
[03:41] <cfhowlett> !flavors | hello
[03:41] <debkad> the less hungry the best performance
[03:41] <jerichowasahoax> hello: Unity, the "default Ubuntu" GUI, will probably not run very well, but Lubuntu or Xubuntu should be fantastic
[03:42] <Some_Person> jerichowasahoax: It's clear to me that something changed somewhere between 182.50 and 197.15, and has not been fixed all the way up through the latest version (340.52)
[03:42] <hello> I am using a athlon 64 cpu and 1 gigabyte of ram
[03:42] <dvr> hello all
[03:43] <debkad> that better
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> hello: try the new lubuntu 16.04.1 its fantastic
[03:43] <debkad> mine is 32bit and work fine, yours probably will work faster than mine
[03:44] <jerichowasahoax> Some_Person: At this point, the best I can come up with is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[03:44] <gtxbb> hello, lubuntu is meant to be less power-hungry --- you can try ubuntu and see how well it performs
[03:44] <Some_Person> jerichowasahoax: But my question is, what can I do about this on Linux (other than using nouveau, which doesn't have this problem)? Obviously I can't use an older driver, but is there any configuration I might be able to try? Is there some way I can confirm it's the exact same issue (dumb driver thinks VGA monitor is DVI)?
[03:45] <jerichowasahoax> Some_Person: I don't have an 8600GTS to replicate this with, the last four-digit nVidia card I owned died of old age
[03:45] <gtxbb> hello, (you still get all the same packages for either)
[03:45] <Some_Person> jerichowasahoax: Even if you did, you'd need a monitor that causes the issue to occur.
[03:45] <Bashing-om> Some_Person: Does this apply : http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/~/support-timeframes-for-unix-legacy-gpu-releases to your situation ?
[03:45] <jerichowasahoax> Some_Person: Normally I'd say things like "Are you sure you don't just have a defective $OBJECT" but rolling back drivers wouldn't fix it if that was the case
[03:46] <Some_Person> jerichowasahoax: My thoughts exactly
[03:46] <Some_Person> Not to mention that nouveau is fine
[03:46] <jerichowasahoax> (or as fine as nouveau ever is anyway)
[03:46] <Some_Person> Well yeah, obviously
[03:47] <Some_Person> Point is it doesn't have this weird ass issue
[03:47] <hello> would lubuntu be easier to use than xubuntu?
[03:48] <cfhowlett> hello, no difference. it's still ubuntu.  different look is all
[03:48] <debkad> hello: for easiest, xubuntu
[03:48] <Some_Person> Bashing-om: I don't think this explains it, because the driver that I installed is from the 340 series, and this is a G8x GPU.
[03:48] <debkad> hello: you can use both desktop in the same release
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> hello: in many cases lubuntu should be the lightest to work with
[03:49] <debkad> lubuntu then install xfce to have a kind of xubuntu and switch any time you want
[03:49] <hello> I would test them both but i have a very slow internet download speed
[03:49] <cfhowlett> hello,  no you are missing the point.
[03:49] <Some_Person> jerichowasahoax: It also happens that I have a second machine with the same GPU, and it has the same problem
[03:49] <cfhowlett> hello, choose ONE version (lubuntu), install it
[03:49] <cfhowlett> hello, then to test the other version, install the "gui"
[03:50] <hello> okay
[03:50] <jcjordyn120> where do I get support for ubiquity?
[03:50] <debkad> here i think
[03:50] <cfhowlett> hello, for example, install xubuntu.  then install lxde.  logout of xubuntu.  choose "lxde session".  login.  then you can see what the lubuntu version looks like.  if you like it, install the full version with "sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop
[03:51] <Some_Person> jerichowasahoax: I did contact nvidia and told them about it yesterday, dunno if anything will come of that though
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> Some_Person: did you try ubuntu drivers ppa yet for latest?
[03:51] <debkad> cfhowlett: that brilliant
[03:51] <cfhowlett> debkad, no that's ubuntu         :)
[03:51] <debkad> haha :D
[03:52] <Some_Person> lotuspsychje: I have not
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> Some_Person: in some cases that brings more luck
[03:52] <Some_Person> What version is in that?
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> Some_Person: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | Some_Person just keep this in mind:
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> jcjordyn120: best way is to ask your specific issue to this channel
[03:57] <Some_Person> lotuspsychje: Thanks, I'll give it a shot (though my confidence is low)
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> Some_Person: if somethings not working, several tests can bring more light
[03:58] <newscripter> Ubuntu MATE is nice :). What's the difference between "Ubuntu MATE" and "GNOME 2" in the pre-made panel configs?
[03:58] <newscripter> They look exactly the same to me.
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> newscripter: perhaps the #ubuntu-mate guys know this
[03:59] <Some_Person> newscripter: MATE is a fork of GNOME 2
[03:59] <newscripter> yes
[04:00] <newscripter> in ubuntu MATE you can select some pre-made panel configs (like Mutiny, openSUSE, GNOME 2, Ubuntu MATE). I'm saying MATE and GNOME 2 look exactly the same to me.
[04:00] <newscripter> was wondering if there's a difference
[04:02] <jcjordyn120> !ppa
[04:08] <Bobseviltwin> Hello, I freshly installed ubuntu 16.04 and my browser isnt connecting to the server. In the network manager, it says that im connected and i typed in www.google.com so its not an inncorrect address.. anything suggestions?
[04:08] <Bobseviltwin> *any
[04:08] <Some_Person> Latest driver from the PPA (unsurprisingly) has this same issue
[04:08] <Tech> Hi, I'm new to using the Terminal in Ubuntu live CD and I was hoping someone could explain the best method for mounting a HDD .img of Windows 7 with multiple partitions? In Virtualbox, someone mentioned this link for help but I'm not sure. http://askubuntu.com/questions/444124/how-to-add-a-loopback-interface :)
[04:09] <debkad> Bobseviltwin: tray to ping it
[04:09] <Bobseviltwin> Some_Person: was there a fix to it?
[04:09] <debkad> try*
[04:10] <Some_Person> Bobseviltwin: A fix to what?
[04:10] <orlock> Tech: It's kind of a niche case there, usuaully used for data recovery
[04:11] <orlock> Tech: You'll either be wanting to split it into partitions, or mounting with an offset
[04:11] <orlock> Tech: https://major.io/2010/12/14/mounting-a-raw-partition-file-made-with-dd-or-dd_rescue-in-linux/
[04:12] <Tech> orlock: Basically, I've created a raw image of the HDD using Terminal but I FORGOT to zero out the free space. Only about 80 GB is used out of the 500 GB drive but I don't have 1 TB of free space where I can make an .img and a .vdi file.
[04:12] <kino123> Hello,how do i restore my accounts file cause i cant find them after i did pass reset?
[04:12] <Bobseviltwin> Some_Person: maybe I should back up, what is PPA?
[04:12] <debkad> i heard about loopback methode then partitionning ( gparted for example )
[04:12] <Bobseviltwin> debkad: results say unknown host
[04:12] <orlock> Tech: do you want to virtualise it, or just get the files?
[04:13] <Tech> I want to virtualize the HDD to work in another computer running vbox. I successfully was able to clone a GPT partition and get it to boot and work without losing any apps or settings.  :)
[04:14] <Tech> But that was on the same computer so this is a bit more tricky ;)
[04:15] <kino123> This is what i did;I login using recovery mode then use sudo passwd command
[04:15] <debkad> Tech: may be this will help http://softwarebakery.com/shrinking-images-on-linux
[04:15] <Tech> orlock: if I can get this one OS working on the newer machine in VirtualBox, I'll replicate that process for the 3 other snapshot images I have
[04:16] <orlock> Tech: If it didnt actually die, i'd try a P2V maybe
[04:16] <kino123> Then i when i tried the new password
[04:17] <kino123> It accepts it but it goes back to login page
[04:17] <Tech> orlock: I tried disk2vhd but that wasn't working...I'm sure it would work if I was running that image on the same machine I made the image on in the first place....haha ;)
[04:17] <kino123> I could login to guest account with no problem at all
[04:17] <debkad> kino123: that mean the password is correct, it is something else your issue
[04:17] <Tech> orlock: Do you think in those instructions that it matters that they're using FAT32 vs NTFS?
[04:18] <kino123> Yes the password is correct but stuck on login loop
[04:18] <eggos> Does anyone know the command to find out what drivers I am using for a wireless card?
[04:18] <debkad> kino123: see the logs, start with ~/.xsession-errors
[04:19] <kino123> So i tried using cltrl alt f3 and use command ls -lah
[04:19] <kino123> Then use ls - ld/tmp
[04:20] <debkad> eggos: lspci , lsusb , lsmod ...
[04:20] <eggos> grazi
[04:20] <kino123> Then use sudo service lightdm restart
[04:21] <kino123> As suggested in askubuntu.com
[04:21] <ilken> will that kill running applications?
[04:22] <kino123> It still wont login so i tried using sudo gpasswd -d $USER nopasswdlogin
[04:22] <debkad> kino123: it is not about password but the session
[04:22] <kino123> Then i restarted the computer and was able to login then
[04:23] <kino123> But my files are gone,so what should i do to get them back?
[04:24] <kino123> Sorry im not that good at this
[04:25] <kino123> How do i see ~/.xsession
[04:26] <newscripter> try nano ~/.xsession-errors ?
[04:27] <Tech> orlock: Are you still there?
[04:27] <orlock> barely sorry
[04:27] <Tech> np
[04:28] <Tech> I appreciate the help
[04:28] <Tech> orlock: I was asking you if you think in those instructions that it matters that they're using FAT32 vs NTFS?
[04:28] <orlock> oh - depends which instructions. if they are just mounting, it should be fine
[04:28] <Bobseviltwin> (repost) Hello, I freshly installed ubuntu 16.04 and my browser isnt connecting to the server. In the network manager, it says that im connected and i typed in www.google.com so its not an inncorrect address.. anything suggestions?
[04:28] <orlock> file recovery tools, yes, it will matter
[04:29] <Tech> orlock: the link you posted
[04:29] <cfhowlett> Bobseviltwin, open a terminal.  ping www.google.com
[04:29] <Bobseviltwin> it says unknown host
[04:29] <Tech> orlock: http://softwarebakery.com/shrinking-images-on-linux
[04:29] <cfhowlett> Bobseviltwin, you are not connected then
[04:30] <Bobseviltwin> Then what do i need to do because the network manager says I am
[04:30] <nickolas> hello i provide free ddos services
[04:30] <nickolas> please suggest target to attack
[04:30] <orlock> nickolas: take down 127.0.0.1 for me
[04:30] <nickolas> we are testing our capacity
[04:30] <orlock> nickolas: that guy is the worst
[04:30] <debkad> oh
[04:31] <nickolas> orlock: unfortunately we have blacklist that target
[04:31] <Tech> lol
[04:31] <hello> and can you do 8.8.8.8 next
[04:31] <nickolas> it causes performance issue
[04:31] <debkad> :'D
[04:31] <debkad> nickolas: ddos google.com
[04:31] <orlock> nickolas: your tools are bad then
[04:31] <orlock> nickolas: go and write something better
[04:31] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, be gone
[04:31] <Tech> lmao
[04:31] <nickolas> hello: our capacity is too small for google services
[04:31] <debkad> nickolas: facebook
[04:31] <cfhowlett> nickolas, wrong channel.  play somewhere else.
[04:31] <nickolas> i be honest with you
[04:32] <hello> how many botnets do you have?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> !ot
[04:32] <nickolas> cfhowlett: ok where do you suggest
[04:32] <kino123> What should i do now?please help
[04:32] <cfhowlett> nickolas, not ubuntu.  go away now
[04:32] <Tech> orlock: Based on http://softwarebakery.com/shrinking-images-on-linux do you think it matter if I'm using NTFS?
[04:32] <Tech> *matters
[04:32] <nickolas> we have not been able to find beta tester
[04:33] <cfhowlett> nickolas, this is ubuntu support. not support nickolas in ddos.  go away
[04:33] <nickolas> cfhowlett: i am sorry
[04:33] <nickolas> good by folks
[04:33] <orlock> Tech: i'd say yes
[04:33] <nickolas> bye
[04:33] <kino123> I just want my files back,it contains important stuff
[04:33] <Tech> orlock: I'm not sure then where to go from here :(
[04:35] <Bobseviltwin> So .. anyways..can you still help meh cfhowlett?
[04:35] <makerman> hi all - can anyone recommend a wwan card for a dell latitude under ubuntu that is known to work well?
[04:36] <cfhowlett> Bobseviltwin, I've only experienced it once.  don't remember hwo I fixed it, sorry.
[04:36] <cfhowlett> makerman, intel generally "just works".  broadcom *usually* works.
[04:36] <Bobseviltwin> I was thinking maybe the command that resets network manager but I dont remember it nor can I find it
[04:37] <makerman> cfhowlett, any exact recommendations? looking for the fastest speed possible on at&t network
[04:37] <Kay> Hi all
[04:37] <cfhowlett> makerman, sorry, can't help.  but post up that exact query to the boards here and on #linux might get a fast answer.
[04:38] <makerman> cfhowlett, will do thanks
[04:38] <Tech> orlock: Are you crashing?  Anyone else you might recommend to help with my unique issue?   :)
[04:39] <kino123> I dont know where ~/.xsession-errors is,as someone said
[04:40] <cfhowlett> kino123, open a terminal:        more ~/.xsession-errors
[04:41] <kino123> Ok ill try it
[04:42] <kino123> It says script for ibus started at run_im
[04:43] <kino123> Script for auto started at run_im
[04:43] <kino123> And script for default started at run_im
[04:44] <kino123> What do i do next?
[04:44] <Tech> Are we allowed to PM other users?  Thanks  :)
[04:45] <renato_> rete
[04:45] <Tech> Are users allowed to 'query' other users in this chatroom?
[04:46] <Bobseviltwin> Okay, i just tried "sudo service network-manager restart" and it went through but when i tried ping. The same unknowmn host came back. I also tried "sudo ifconfig wlp4s0 up" but that didnt  bring back anything at all and i tried "sudo dhclient wlp4s0" and its says that the file exists ..
[04:46] <Guest39577> wow
[04:46] <Tech> cfhowlett: Do you know if that is allowed in here??
[04:47] <cfhowlett> !pm | Tech,
[04:47] <cfhowlett> with permission, yes you can PM
[04:47] <Tech> k
[04:49] <Tech> Can you use the 'cfdisk myimage.img' to check the offset for a raw ntfs formatted .img drive file?
[04:50] <Tech> Sorry if this is a weird question but I'm referring to this article: http://softwarebakery.com/shrinking-images-on-linux
[04:50] <Bobseviltwin> Ok ok so i connected to my mobile hotspot and then pinged google and it worked
[04:51] <cfhowlett> Bobseviltwin, since it works from a different connection, seems to be a setting/configuration issue
[04:51] <cfhowlett> good troubleshooting, by the way
[04:51] <Bobseviltwin> :3 thanks im learning along well
[04:51] <Bobseviltwin> So then what do i do
[04:52] <kino123> I post the output now,so what do i do now?please help me
[04:52] <Tech> cfhowlett: is there any way to mute the joining and quiting prompts using the freenode webchat?
[04:53] <cfhowlett> Bobseviltwin, 1.  post all of the particulars on the ubuntu forums or reddit.com/r/askubuntu.      copy the link and post the query here from time to time.  e.g.  *problem connecting*  see :  url
[04:53] <cfhowlett> !quietirc | Tech yep
[04:53] <Tech> !quietirc
[04:53] <cfhowlett> :O   read the wiki Tech .  see the part about your irc server
[04:54] <debkad> Tech: about shrinking the image i think i gave you a link before
[04:54] <debkad> this one i think http://softwarebakery.com/shrinking-images-on-linux
[04:55] <Bobseviltwin> Darn, okay thanks cfhowlett
[04:55] <Tech> debkad: okay but I was asking about the offset problem because I don't know enough about this
[04:56] <Tech> debkad: are you orlock ?
[04:56] <debkad> Tech: in that link there is something in the end talking about something close to that
[04:56] <debkad> no i'm me :))
[04:57] <kino123> Please help im just using phone to chat here
[04:57] <Tech> debkad: haha okay well I do know that but I'm not familiar enough with terminal cmds for it to help me.
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> kino123: you need an irc client on your phone
[04:58] <kino123> Yes im using one
[04:58] <debkad> Tech: that use gparted, totally gui application
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> kino123: ok, whats your issue then?
[04:58] <debkad> the fdisk is just to get the offset
[04:58] <debkad> and truncate to cat the unused space
[04:58] <kino123> I meant im running low in battery
[04:59] <Tech> cfdisk you mean?
[04:59] <debkad> Tech: fdisk , you can use cfdisk if you know how to use it
[05:00] <Tech> lol!
[05:00] <werdfriek> I installed qt creator in /opt and now it crashes ... is there a way I can keep it installed there and make it work properly?
[05:00] <Tech> I don't know how to do ANY of these commands well debkad :P
[05:00] <kino123> I post  what i did and my problem,i post .xsession- errors as what someone said but i dont get reply
[05:00] <debkad> Tech: ok :)
[05:02] <Tech> debkad: As much as it pains me to admit this, I'm not a regular Ubuntu user. I'm a Windows and Mac user  :-o
[05:02]  * cfhowlett thinks *there is a heretic amongst us*
[05:02] <debkad> Tech: just read that link and see if it look hard or easy :D
[05:03] <Tech> nah, I have to laugh or I'll cry over this problem....
[05:03] <debkad> o_o
[05:04] <kino123> debkad you suggested xsession-erros so what do i do now
[05:04] <Tech> it took 5.2 hrs to clone this drive....I do NOT want to have to do it again
[05:04] <Tech> I'll try it debkad , thanks
[05:04] <Tech> :)
[05:04] <orlock> Tech:  with dd?
[05:04] <debkad> kino123: see any interesting errors about why it doesn't let you login
[05:04] <Tech> no
[05:04] <debkad> Tech: no problem, i hope that will help you
[05:05] <Tech> opps!
[05:05] <Tech> I meant YES
[05:05] <kino123> I dont know this stuff more than tech
[05:05] <Tech> yes orlock actually this command: dd if=/dev/sda of="/media/ubuntu/SP Blue 1 TB/rawdisk.img" bs=16M
[05:06] <orlock> Should not have taken that long, you had set the blocksize which is the big permformance killer
[05:07] <kino123> I get script for ibus started at run_im,script for auto started at run_im and script for default started at run_im
[05:07] <Tech> orlock: you weren't around then to tell me not to! haha!...I only had the #virtualbox guys to help ;)
[05:08] <Tech> I thought setting the block size was weird but I didn't question it
[05:08] <orlock> Tech: i mean, that bs= bit of the dd line is the right way to do it - it should not have taken so long
[05:08] <Tech> it was 500 GB
[05:08] <orlock> Tech: if you dont set it, it reads a bit at a time, which is really slow
[05:09] <orlock> so what you set should have been fine, i would have expected an hour at most
[05:09] <Tech> took about 5 hrs...lol
[05:09] <debkad> wow
[05:09] <debkad> 5 hours for only 500G
[05:09] <Tech> IDE to usb 2.0
[05:09] <orlock> oh
[05:09] <orlock> usb2
[05:09] <debkad> ah that make sense
[05:16] <kino123> debkad as i said i reset passwd,then it accepted it but when i login it always brings me back to login oag
[05:17] <debkad> kino123: yes i know that part
[05:17] <kino123> *login page and use some commands and was able to login but i cant find my files
[05:17] <debkad> kino123: it is about session, may be lightdm.log is your bet
[05:17] <debkad> kino123: ls -l ~/
[05:17] <kino123> Thats my problem,after being able to fix the login problem my files are gone
[05:17] <debkad> what that show
[05:20] <kino123> It shows  directories with drwxr-xr-x
[05:20] <m1crohz> how to use the ubuntu os ?
[05:20] <m1crohz> woy kampret ?
[05:21] <Tech> omg
[05:21] <debkad> kino123: you sure you are in your session not guest or something else?
[05:21] <kino123> Under /usr/share/ecryptfs-utils/ecryptfs-mount-private.desktop
[05:21] <m1crohz> how to hacker ?
[05:21] <debkad> m1crohz: by typing /quit
[05:22] <orlock> m1crohz: alt-f4 brings up the secret menu
[05:23] <debkad> kino123: ah encryption
[05:23] <debkad> that something is out of my knowledge :/
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[05:23] <cfhowlett> m1crohz, wrong channel.  ask google.
[05:24] <m1crohz> challange for all : hack my website.
[05:24] <proxx> go home kid
[05:25] <Tech> debkad: are you going to be around for a little while?  :)
[05:25] <cfhowlett> m1crohz, challenge returned: go play somewhere else.  this is ubuntu support only.
[05:25] <debkad> Tech: not sure, but i will try to be around
[05:25] <crazyadm> m1crohz: what is your website
[05:26] <debkad> ah someone take the challenge
[05:26] <m1crohz> crazyadm : netinnet.esy.es
[05:26] <kino123> debkad: so what do i do now
[05:26] <kino123> Lol
[05:26] <Tech> debkad: It's just going to take me a while to go through those terminal commands and instructions
[05:26] <debkad> kino123: no idea about encryption, try first to ask lightdm channel to help you how to login
[05:27] <m1crohz> @`z
[05:31] <Schoppa> Hi! I'm trying to build a spamassassin 3.4.1 backport on ubuntu precise, but I have problems to handle systemd dependencies. Is it a good idea just to remove "dh-systemd" from control Build-Depends and remove "dh_systemd_enable --no-enable" from rules?
[05:32] <kino123> debkad: i already logged in,the files that are missing is what im after,sorry i kinda am forceful awhile ago its just hard to chat using phone,is there a room for encryption problem?whats the room for lightdm?
[05:36] <debkad> kino123: in my case it is on /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[05:37] <debkad> but if encryption i have no clue how to solve that
[05:40] <kino123> I just checked mine is there too
[05:41] <debkad> kino123: also ls /home to see how many username are there and if you are really on your session
[05:41] <kino123> Only 1 username
[05:43] <EriC^^> kino123: what;s the problem?
[05:43] <sonu_nk> hi i want to uninstall complete package of lamp PHP7
[05:43] <sonu_nk> how can i do this ?
[05:44] <EriC^^> sonu_nk: uninstall the packages you installed
[05:44] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get purge <packages>
[05:44] <cfhowlett> sonu_nk, sudo apt-get -purge php7
[05:45] <sonu_nk> i removed all using above command ,, but how to sure LAMP completly has been removed..
[05:45] <sonu_nk> actually i want to use Xamp , is this perfect to use ?
[05:45] <EriC^^> sonu_nk: when did you install the lamp?
[05:45] <EriC^^> or which guide did you follow?
[05:46] <sonu_nk> 2 days back .. i just used my frnds commands
[05:46] <sonu_nk> EriC^^:
[05:46] <kino123> EriC^^: i cant find my files after fixing not being able to login even if the new password is accepted
[05:46] <debkad> EriC^^: if i understand him, he changed the password, and got enable to login, the password is correct when he try to login, the session return to the login session again, ge used autologin or no password and he is now able to login but no file in his session
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> sonu_nk: wich commands and wich ubuntu version?
[05:46] <EriC^^> sonu_nk: type cat /var/log/apt/history.log
[05:46] <EriC^^> see the command you used there
[05:46] <sonu_nk> ah ok.. done now ?
[05:47] <EriC^^> did you see the command you used?
[05:47] <sonu_nk> yes EriC^^
[05:48] <EriC^^> do sudo apt-get purge <packages from that command>
[05:48] <sonu_nk> ok EriC^^ thanx , i am little bit educated now :P
[05:48] <EriC^^> kino123: try ecryptsf-recover-private
[05:48] <kino123> The commands i used are ls -lah then ls -ld /tmp then sudo service lightdm restart
[05:49] <EriC^^> sonu_nk: np :D
[05:50] <EriC^^> kino123: did you try restarting?
[05:50] <sonu_nk> EriC^^: Xamp a reliable solution ?
[05:51] <EriC^^> never heard of that :D
[05:52] <kino123> Then it still didnt work so i tried  sudo gpasswd -d $USER nopasswdlogin and restart and i was able to login but no files
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> sonu_nk: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[05:53] <sonu_nk> lotuspsychje: ubuntu 16
[05:53] <EriC^^> kino123: aha
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> sonu_nk: dekstop? server?
[05:53] <sonu_nk> desktop lotuspsychje
[05:54] <EriC^^> kino123: what happens if you login from tty1?
[05:54] <sonu_nk> lotuspsychje: 5 min coming back to you.. restarting system,
[05:54] <lucas_ai> What would be the best way to allow me to download and install packages while apt-get is already downloading or installing another package? At minimum I'd like to download the package AND its dependencies all while another package is being installed or downloaded, but while scheduling the install of ALL downloaded packages. Any ideas?
[05:56] <kino123> EriC^^: sorry i lagged,ill try the command now
[05:56] <Triffid_Hunter> lucas_ai: patch apt/dpkg so they lock individual things as needed rather than holding a big global lock all the time
[05:56] <lucas_ai> The easiest way I mean, so I can run: "sudo apt install gimp" and "sudo apt install inkscape" and they will not FULLY BLOCK EACH OTHER
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> lucas_ai: why do you need it individual?
[05:57] <lucas_ai> Triffid_Hunter, thanks Michael, but I think that's way too much work. I only need the lock to be on *installation* and not on download or while checking dependencies, for example. I think if the lock is on installation, it'll be quite easy to make the change
[05:57] <lucas_ai> lotuspsychje, what do you mean?
[05:57] <Triffid_Hunter> Linux kicked out the big kernel lock ages ago because it was a major performance issue, seems apt developers haven't taken the hint
[05:58] <kino123> EriC^^: its searching for encrypted private directories now
[05:58] <cfhowlett> lucas_ai, multiple updates/installs during installation sounds ... inadvisable.
[05:58] <lucas_ai> Triffid_Hunter, how would it know which parts need a lock and which don't?
[05:59] <lucas_ai> cfhowlett, what's wrong with installing a package while another is being downloaded?
[05:59] <Mike_V> wouldn't you have to open two terminals to do more than one?
[06:00] <lucas_ai> cfhowlett, or downloading two packages at the same time. Or finding package A's dependencies while package B is being installed/downloaded/etc
[06:00] <Triffid_Hunter> lucas_ai: it gets told by the programmer writing the code.. usually it's fairly basic; download needs a lock on the destination files, various checks and updates need locks on relevant databases, install needs lock on the filesystem
[06:00] <lucas_ai> Mike_V, yeah I don't mind
[06:00] <Triffid_Hunter> cfhowlett: gentoo has zero problems with it ;)
[06:00] <cfhowlett> Triffid_Hunter, your box, your choice.  but breaking apt-lock can only cause heartabch
[06:00] <cfhowlett> hearache
[06:00] <lucas_ai> Triffid_Hunter, so install would lock the whole filesystem, not just parts of it?
[06:00] <cfhowlett> !aptlock
[06:01] <lucas_ai> cfhowlett, apt-get is the bottleneck in my and probably most people's productivity
[06:01] <Triffid_Hunter> lucas_ai: locking the whole thing is easier than parts.. and you need to rebuild ld cache and suchforth after installing libraries and things, which is a system-wide operation
[06:02] <lucas_ai> Triffid_Hunter, yeah, that's why I just wanna make a simple script that locks while installing packages. For the rest of it (downloads, dependencies), I don't think I even need to make new locks.
[06:04] <Mike_V> lucas, don't most pacages also install dependencies ?
[06:05] <Triffid_Hunter> lucas_ai: so what happens when two instances of apt-get both pull the same dependency?
[06:07] <lucas_ai> Triffid_Hunter, what do you mean by 'pull'?
[06:08] <lucas_ai> if they're downloading the same package because of being a dependency, I figure they won't save into the same filename, and "apt install" will figure that it's already installed anyways
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> lucas_ai: tell us more about why you want this exactly?
[06:09] <Triffid_Hunter> lucas_ai: well of course it'll be the same filename if it's the same package.. that's why you gotta lock the destination file while downloading
[06:09] <lucas_ai> lotuspsychje, so I can follow installation tutorials while I wait for some huge packages or large lists of dependencies to be downloaded :)
[06:09] <kino123> EriC^^: it says info: found [/home/.ecryptfs/user/.Private] Try to recover this directory?ill say yes right?
[06:09] <lucas_ai> Triffid_Hunter, do you think apt doesn't notice that the file exists while downloading?
[06:10] <lucas_ai> maybe if they both started the download at exactly the same time (trying to create the same filename right after checking that it doesn't exist, there could be a race condition)
[06:10] <Triffid_Hunter> lucas_ai: I think that if the file isn't complete, one instance will keep downloading it and the other instance will try to resume, overwriting the data that the first instance already grabbed or possibly corrupting the file
[06:10] <proxx> its checksummed
[06:10] <proxx> dont worry too much about that stuff
[06:11] <Triffid_Hunter> lucas_ai: O_CREAT option to open prevents race conditions by asking kernel to do the necessary checks
[06:11] <Tech> debkad: I'm working with my UX/UI dev team so I might try to finish these steps tomorrow. If you're around I'll ping you tomorrow. I'm in EST. Thanks for your help and you too orlock and cfhowlett :)
[06:11] <lucas_ai> Triffid_Hunter, I would think running "apt download" will work as they probably already figured it out
[06:11] <cfhowlett> Tech, best of luck!
[06:11] <Tech> thank you!
[06:11] <debkad> Tech: you're welcome :)
[06:12] <Tech> and if I try now to enter commands in terminal I might make a mistake and delete my whole HDD because I'm getting very tired....lol
[06:12] <debkad> haha
[06:12] <cfhowlett> wouldn't be the first person ... nor the least
[06:12] <cfhowlett> last
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> lucas_ai: im reading stuff about apt-fast script
[06:13] <Triffid_Hunter> tech: well just make sure you don't try to remove the french language and you'll be fine :P
[06:13] <lucas_ai> lotuspsychje, I'm using that. But it won't let me run both "apt install" commands in two terminals at once :(
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> lucas_ai: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-speed-up-apt-get-apt-command-ubuntu-linux/ something like this can help?
[06:13] <Tech> what french language Triffid_Hunter ?
[06:13] <Tech> lol
[06:14] <lucas_ai> lotuspsychje, I already got that. I don't see a big improvement. What blocks me the most is waiting for packages to download while I could still be entering new apt install commands for other unrelated things
[06:14] <Triffid_Hunter> Tech: old linux joke involving rm -fr, not gonna paste the whole thing in case someone here is feeling lucky today, I'm sure you can work out the rest ;)
[06:14] <kino123> EriC^^: eric are yiu still there should i say yes or no,cause im not sure if itll overwrite my current directory
[06:14] <Tech> ohhhh hahaha
[06:15] <alocer> lucas_ai, lotuspsychje i am enjoying apt-fast . life changing for me
[06:15] <lucas_ai> alocer, I don't even notice a difference. I guess our use-cases are different
[06:16] <alocer> lucas_ai, well if you're using 128K internet then it will be life changing ;-)
[06:17] <kino123> Lol alocer
[06:17]  * cfhowlett fires up that aol.online CD that he has held onto for just such an occasion
[06:18] <Mike_V> 128k internet, isdn?
[06:18] <lucas_ai> alocer, I got 1GB.
[06:18] <lucas_ai> Gb
[06:18] <alocer> Mike_V, yup ;)
[06:18] <alocer> lucas_ai, ROFL :)
[06:19] <lapion> wow lucas 128KB/s...
[06:19] <Mike_V> geez i remember those days, hell i remember 300baud
[06:20] <debkad> 128 kb/s is not bad
[06:20] <Mike_V> these whipper snappers don't know slow...
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> lucas_ai: how about aria2, can that help?
[06:20] <alocer> Mike_V, seems i'm living in your memory
[06:20]  * lapion remembers using a single phone cable to connect two computer at 150baud to transfer files..
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> !info aria2
[06:21] <Mike_V> used to do a lot of stuff for Government, they used isdn even when dsl was available
[06:21] <alocer> Mike_V, in my country they won't allow anyone to use more than 128K except the company's .
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> keep it support related guys
[06:21] <alocer> there is no one to support :(
[06:21] <kino123> What the..which country is that?
[06:21] <debkad> alocer: which country?
[06:21] <alocer> KindOne, Fuking Islamic republic of fuking iran
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[06:22] <debkad> oh
[06:22] <debkad> alocer: at least you have eutelsat w3 i think
[06:22] <debkad> by sattelite
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> debkad: stop it plz
[06:22] <debkad> ok
[06:23] <kino123> lotuspsychje: im still w8ng reply from EriC^^ about my problem
[06:24] <kino123> Sorry if went offtopic
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> kino123: best way is to re-ask your question in here, all in one line, once in a while so others can read/help
[06:26] <Tech> kino123: I wouldn't expect ANYONE in here helping to take the time to scroll up and look at your last response so use ClipX or similar and have those questions ready to paste again if someone hasn't answered in a while. It's just too hard to keep up with it otherwise I've noticed. Hope this helps.  :-)
[06:26] <kino123> lotuspsychje: eric ask me to run ecryptfs-recover-private,and it found .private dunno if i should recover it instantly or not
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> kino123: re-ask something like this in chat: im trying to recover...on ubuntu version...tried these steps....
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> !details
[06:29] <alocer> guys any offtopic channel available ?
[06:29] <cfhowlett> !ot | alocer
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> !ot | alocer sure
[06:30] <alocer> ty
[06:30] <totonne98> yo
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> totonne98: what can we do for you?
[06:37] <lucas_ai> Any idea how to download a package (eg: gimp) and ALL its dependencies? No installation yet.
[06:38] <debkad> lucas_ai: i think apt-get download
[06:38] <TrueDetective> glitchd
[06:39] <roi84> hi guys how you doing
[06:40] <lucas_ai> debkad, it downloads only the package itself and not its dependencies
[06:40] <cfhowlett> lucas_ai, apt manages dependencies.
[06:40] <roi84> i am new in ubuntu i need some help please how i can secure my ubuntu in the best way
[06:41] <lucas_ai> cfhowlett, yes, but apt-get download isn't downloading the package's dependencies.
[06:41] <cfhowlett> roi84, 1.  enable firewall.   2.  stay off shady websites.   3.  create and use low-privilege user account and use the root account ONLY for system maintenance.
[06:42] <cfhowlett> lucas_ai, apt-get install -s gimp.   copy and paste the resulting file list in your at-get download
[06:42] <roi84>  cfhowlett  thanks man
[06:43] <cfhowlett> roi84, happy2help!
[06:43] <roi84> what version of firewall please ?
[06:43] <cfhowlett> !ufw | roi84
[06:43] <roi84> thanks guys
[06:43] <lucas_ai> cfhowlett, the output list is not just a list of packages. It has text. Any idea how to get the proper list?
[06:44] <alocer> lucas_ai, links of the packages you meaN ?
[06:44] <lucas_ai> I was using "apt-cache depends gimp" but I guess your method should be better
[06:44] <lucas_ai> alocer, no. I need to get the package names that apt-get would install when I run "apt-get install gimp"
[06:44] <Ben64> lucas_ai: why can't you include more than one package in your "sudo apt-get install" or just wait a few seconds for the install to finish?
[06:44] <cfhowlett> lucas_ai, :)  sorry that's the best suggestion i have
[06:44] <cfhowlett> this ^^^^
[06:45] <lucas_ai> Ben64, because the install doesn't take "a few seconds". It often takes hours. Also, I'm following different tutorials on many different things I need installed.
[06:45] <ducasse> lucas_ai: 'apt-get install --download-only gimp'?
[06:46] <lucas_ai> It wouldn't make sense for me to compile all packages I could ever need today and run a single apt-get install ALL_PACKAGES_FOR_TODAY command
[06:46] <Ben64> are you running ubuntu on a toaster? nothing takes hours
[06:46] <alocer> lucas_ai, let me look . i know a command .
[06:46] <lucas_ai> ducasse, that downloads to apt's directory. it could cause problems. I need it to download to my own directory I think
[06:46] <kino123> ive waited for my phone cause it lag but the irc client isnt updating anymore so i just logged in on hexchat here
[06:46] <alocer> lucas_ai, apt-get install <appname> -s
[06:46] <lucas_ai> Ben64, the internet is slow.
[06:46] <lucas_ai> only 1Gbps
[06:46] <Ben64> ONLY?!
[06:47] <kino123> EriC^^, are you there now
[06:47] <lucas_ai> Ben64, yes. Some packages have so many dependencies that the total download is slow.
[06:47] <Ben64> you must be joking
[06:48] <alocer> Ben64, getting one package at time will take long time .
[06:48] <Ben64> not at 1gbps
[06:48] <debkad> 1Gbps is slow wow
[06:48] <lucas_ai> Ben64, try "sudo apt install ros-kinetic-desktop-full" and see if it takes "a few seconds" as you say.
[06:49] <Ben64> unable to locate package, took 0.7s
[06:49] <debkad> lol
[06:49] <kino123> lol
[06:49] <lucas_ai> that's false. The package is in the main repos afaik
[06:49] <Ben64> nope.jpg
[06:49] <lucas_ai> you're a troll :)
[06:49] <Ben64> !info ros-kinetic-desktop-full
[06:49] <Ben64> oh snap, i'm right
[06:49] <alocer> lol
[06:49] <lucas_ai> ok then. add the ppas and try it
[06:50] <debkad> i also have no package named ros-kinetic-desktop-full
[06:50] <debkad> what is that
[06:50] <debkad> ah ppa
[06:50] <lucas_ai> even "sudo apt-get install gimp" takes more than a minute for me
[06:50] <debkad> lucas_ai: what's wrong if it take few more than a minute
[06:51] <lucas_ai> debkad, I have to wait before I can enter more "apt-get install" commands. Which is a bottleneck for productivity
[06:51] <debkad> apt-get install gimp ==> go dring a coffee for example and make life easy
[06:52] <debkad> that what i do my self ( have a slow internet too )
[06:52] <lucas_ai> debkad, a smart person would make a simple script to improve it :)
[06:53] <debkad> the time you wasting on asking about it, better to start the apt-get
[06:53] <kino123>  I reset my password using recovery mode and when i logged in it was accepted but it wont let me in,Tried some commands and fix it but my files are gone,EriC^^ suggested i use sudo ecryptfs-recover-private to fix it and i dunno if i should say yes to recover the result,any help is appreciated
[06:53] <Ben64> lucas_ai: and you've been told before what you want isn't possible
[06:54] <lucas_ai> debkad, no because I'll use this script forever
[06:54] <workerbeetwo> Hi. How to sort the output of WC -l ?
[06:54] <lucas_ai> Ben64, I disagree.
[06:54] <Ben64> i know you do, but you shouldn't
[06:54] <hateball> workerbeetwo: pipe it to sort
[06:54] <lucas_ai> Triffid_Hunter says it works fine in gentoo
[06:54] <hateball> workerbeetwo: as in: wc -l |sort
[06:54] <debkad> lucas_ai: good luck, i hope you will share it when you finish it, i will be the first one using it, if it work
[06:55] <lucas_ai> debkad, thanks. I'll try to make it easy to use and share it. I'm sure many people would benefit
[06:55] <debkad> i wish you luck
[06:56] <debkad> wc -l will give you just number of lines
[06:57] <debkad> what the reason to sort that
[06:57] <Ben64> sort files by how many lines?
[07:00] <workerbeetwo> Ben64: yes. thats the idea
[07:00] <debkad> sort -n or sort -h if you like numeric sort
[07:01] <lucas_ai> how do I remove warnings from apt-get download?
[07:01] <truthwhistle> https://twitter.com/behindcurtains1
[07:01] <workerbeetwo> Ben64: yes. thats the idea
[07:02] <debkad> lucas_ai: -q or may be -qq
[07:02] <debkad> -qq No output except for errors
[07:02] <workerbeetwo> but the numbergin of wc is without preceeeding zeros. so sort will group up, but not really sort by the LOC.
[07:04] <Ben64> workerbeetwo: |sort -h
[07:05] <workerbeetwo> Ben64: thanks. thats it.
[07:06] <kino123> I reset my password using recovery mode and when i logged in it was accepted but it wont let me in,Tried some commands and fix it but my files are gone,EriC^^ suggested i use sudo ecryptfs-recover-private to fix it and i dunno if i should say yes to recover the result,any help is appreciated
[07:07] <kino123> im worried if i say yes and the recover .private is empty it will overwrite my encrypted files
[07:08] <kino123> so im still stuck at try to recover .private question...
[07:16] <debkad> kino123: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38336/how-do-i-recover-my-data-from-an-encrypted-home-directory
[07:17] <debkad> from that link the guy say you should confirm by yes/y
[07:19] <ibizta> hello
[07:19] <kino123> thanks a lot debkad^_^
[07:20] <debkad> no problem
[07:20] <ibizta> hei bro
[07:20] <ibizta> hei debkad
[07:20] <ibizta> hei kino123
[07:20] <ibizta> hai fernothing
[07:20] <debkad> hello
[07:21] <ibizta> im just test irssi on terminal
[07:22] <kino123> debkad oh no i dont know what login paraphrase is,is there anyway to know
[07:23] <kino123> i dont know my former password thats why i reset it so how can i recover encrypted
[07:23] <debkad> kino123: try the second answer
[07:26] <qwert> I am having trouble booting from my liveCD usb drive into an old PC, it says isolinux.bin missing or corrupted, while the same usb drive works fine in newer laptops.
[07:26] <qwert> I prepared the usb using dd bs=4M
[07:26] <debkad> qwert: try copy the isolinux.bin to the root of the usb
[07:27] <qwert> ok, i'll try
[07:29] <Kartagis> hello
[07:29] <qwert> debkad: the one from the isolinux directory?
[07:29] <debkad> qwert: yes
[07:31] <Kartagis> I can't get xserver-xorg-video-intel to install; it gives unmet dependencies. how do I get that? I thought apt-get installed all dependencies as well
[07:36] <qwert> debkad: it says, its read only file system
[07:36] <qwert> I can't copy it.
[07:36] <debkad> dd ?
[07:37] <qwert> yup.
[07:37] <debkad> hmm
[07:37] <qwert> should I use cp instead?
[07:39] <pino> ehi
[07:39] <debkad> qwert: i think this will help you http://askubuntu.com/questions/565493/usb-disk-stuck-in-read-only-after-dd-an-iso
[07:39] <Kartagis> I can't get xserver-xorg-video-intel to install; it gives unmet dependencies. how do I get that? I thought apt-get installed all dependencies as well
[07:39] <debkad> the hdparm
[07:39] <debkad> or the mount
[07:40] <abk> hey, does anyone knows if standard Ubuntu 16.4 amd64 installation media would work for Intel NUC
[07:41] <debkad> Kartagis: what command you tried to use for install
[07:42] <Kartagis> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[07:42] <Kartagis> debkad: ^^
[07:43] <sed_sw> Kartagis: try sudo apt-get install intel-linux-graphics-installer
[07:43] <debkad> Kartagis: try the same command but at the end hit tab
[07:43] <debkad> that will give you the exact name
[07:44] <ducasse> sed_sw: that's not in the ubuntu repos
[07:45] <debkad> brb
[07:46] <pz91> hello, how i can add device to device tree without rebuilding kernel? i have .dtd file with device information
[07:46] <ducasse> pz91: try #ubuntu-arm
[07:47] <pz91> kk
[07:53] <sonu_nk> hi i m not able to open my about this computer tab,system setting tab,,, when i am clickng on it , it is not opening
[07:58] <Guest22620> Atlantis.greekchat.eu/leschat
[08:12] <Cmaj6> Guys please help. Since yesterday, after starting my computer up internet is not working. My computer's connected wirelessly via an ath9k card. Everything worked fine the last time i used the computer, but now all of a sudden not. Wireless networks can be detected thought and i can connect to the wireless networks i used to connect with, however, no internet. If i dual boot windows, then internet is working fine, so it's not a faulty
[08:12] <Cmaj6> network card or faulty modem. I have tried shutting down windows properly (using 'shutdown /s /t 0'), but to no avail. Pls help.
[08:13] <elias_a> Cmaj6: "shutting down windows"? I don't get it...
[08:14] <elias_a> Cmaj6: Are you sure you have not accidentally switched off a wlan switch?
[08:14] <Cmaj6> elias_a, i booted windows (i dual boot windows and ubuntu), and then shut down the computer using 'shutdown /s /t 0'
[08:14] <Cmaj6> elias_a, yes, besides, i do not have a wlan switch
[08:15] <elias_a> Cmaj6: I still do not get it. You booted to windows and used a command line command to shut it down?
[08:16] <Cmaj6> elias_a, yes, indeed
[08:16] <k1l> Cmaj6: if you boot an older kernel in grub menu das it work again?
[08:17] <debkad> how you are connected here?
[08:18] <Cmaj6> k1l, tried that, but not working
[08:18] <Cmaj6> debkad, by a separate laptop
[08:18] <k1l> Cmaj6: does that machine have internetaccess with lan cable?
[08:19] <debkad> Cmaj6: checked the password for the wifi?
[08:20] <Cmaj6> debkad, yes, also deleted the networks and reconnected again, but no internet. Also set IPV6 to ignore, but still no internet
[08:20] <debkad> Cmaj6: ifconfig show your local ip?
[08:21] <Cmaj6> debkad, i ifconfig lists my devices and wlan0. I don't know which line shows my ip?
[08:22] <debkad> inet adr:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[08:22] <debkad> under wlanX
[08:23] <debkad> ?
[08:23] <k1l> Cmaj6: does "rfkill list" list the wifi device and show it as blocked?
[08:25] <debkad> we lost him
[08:29] <Cmaj6> debkad, k1l i have it working!
[08:29] <debkad> hmm
[08:29] <debkad> what a magic thing you did
[08:31] <Cmaj6> debkad, it seems my name resolution was broken
[08:31] <debkad> ah
[08:34] <c0ns0le> Hi to all...
[08:34] <debkad> hi
[08:36] <killuminati> Killuminati ! Banish secret societies like illuminati !!!!! Psychiatry is a FRAUD !!!!!!!!! Israel terrorist state want put me in psychiatric yard!!!!!! Come and destroy this country now!!!!!!!!!
[08:39] <tibrox> how do I disable unity multi-touch?
[08:40] <justthisguy> Hey Guys, can one add a comment to an already existing iptables rule? instead of having to re-add the entire line with said comment added? Thanks in advance
[08:43] <biotechy2k> OK Now that's out of left field LOL
[08:44] <tibrox> ubottu, multi touch
[08:44] <arkouda> Www.heliosradio.com
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[08:46] <tibrox> !ubottu, multi touch
[08:46] <ikonia> tibrox: the bot works fine
[08:47] <tibrox> ikonia, trying the bot's faq
[08:47] <ikonia> tibrox: please do it in a pm
[08:47] <ikonia> tibrox: be aware you have no edit access, so trying to edit a factoid like that won't work
[08:48] <tibrox> just trying to disable annoying multi touch on unity
[08:48] <tibrox> googling not helping
[08:49] <glitchd> tibrox, Go into System Settings>Keyboard and Mouse>Touchpad and uncheck multi gesture?
[08:50] <tibrox> nope
[08:51] <glitchd> tibrox, See http://askubuntu.com/a/198524/321521
[08:51] <glitchd> synclient ClickFinger3=2
[08:51] <glitchd> synclient TapButton3=2
[08:52] <tibrox> glitchd, that seems towork.  Thanks
[08:53] <glitchd> tibrox, np
[08:54] <glitchd> tibrox, you can also use ccsm to change preferences of multi-touch
[08:54] <biotechy2k> tibrox: reading you loud and clear mate
[08:55] <glitchd> tibrox, sudo apt-get install ccsm -> open terminal -> ccsm
[08:56] <biotechy2k> got to love school holidays my net speed is as slow as a dead bug
[08:57] <k1l> biotechy2k: please keep this channel for technical support only. for chat we have the extra channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:57] <neuromute9> hey folks, i'm having trouble setting up gufw to let synergy work.  when the firewall is disabled, the synergy clients connect fine, but with the firewall on it fails to connect.  the port is 24800, i can see it in the report section.
[08:58] <neuromute9> if I create a rule by selecting synergy in the report section, the rule isn't sufficient and the clients don't connect
[08:58] <biotechy2k> meh
[09:11] <ina_> good morning. I use Kubuntu 16.04, since today morning i can't login anymore: a wrong password creates the normal error message and asks again, the correct password turns the mouse symbol into an x and nothing happens. Since the fan doesn't turn up, i think it's not an infinite loop but waiting for something
[09:12] <ina_> i have no idea where to start here...
[09:13] <glitchd> ina_, 1 minute
[09:13] <k1l> ina_: does the guest account work?
[09:13] <ina_> moment, i will try it
[09:15] <glitchd> ina_, sounds like a problem with the Xauthority file
[09:15] <tomreyn> &x ina_: you can press ctrl-alt-f1 and login on the text console, then use the command line to diagnose it further. start by looking at /var/log/Xorg* logs and ~/.xsession-errors - you can use the command 'less' to look at these files. press 'q' to exit it.
[09:16] <tomreyn> ...but try the guest account first
[09:16] <ina_> i have to look up how to log in with guest account. Or do i just have no guest account?
[09:17] <ina_> I can log in in command line
[09:17] <k1l> i dont know if the kubuntu setup got a guest account. maybe the guys in #kubuntu know better such specifics
[09:18] <ddnh> Hi all, how can I improve my HDD read timings in Ubuntu?
[09:18] <glitchd> ina_, not to sidestep tomreyn, but to expedite this situation and get you to a usable desktop, do this. crtl+alt+F1 the type in your login information, then "mv .Xauthority .Xauthority.bak, then crtl+alt+F7 and try to login again
[09:18] <k1l> ddnh: get a ssd :)
[09:18] <ddnh> k1l, :)
[09:19] <glitchd> ina_, tell me if that works or not.
[09:19] <debkad> oh
[09:19] <glitchd> ina_, dont type to quote from that command..
[09:20] <k1l> ddnh: the hdds got a limit through their setup. you could try to use bigger caches and ureadahead. but that is all just peanuts to change to a ssd which got a lot more speed from the hardware setup
[09:21] <glitchd> ina_, any progress?
[09:21] <ina_> glitchd: where should .Xauthority be? in /home/<username>?
[09:22] <ina_> .Xauthority doesn't exist in /home/username i think
[09:22] <k1l> ina_: yes, in the users home you try to login
[09:22] <cantoo> what is ubuntu's beta stage ?
[09:22] <ina_> because auto-completition doesn't work with mv .X
[09:22] <ddnh> k1l, this is poor https://paste.ubuntu.com/23232976/
[09:22] <glitchd> ina_, yes, crtl+alt+F! shold put you at a prompt asking for your user name them password, then it should put you in your home folder. that is where the .Xauthority file is.
[09:22] <debkad> you can use ~/.Xauthority
[09:22] <k1l> ina_: after logging in on terminal, do a "ls -al". what does belong to the user "root" there?
[09:23] <ina_> glitchd: i am in the f1-terminal and loged in
[09:23] <glitchd> ina_, yes just as debkad says, use ~/.Xauthority
[09:24] <glitchd> ina_, so the command will be, mv ~/.Xauthoriy .Xauthority.bak
[09:25] <ina_> glitchd: i think i've found the problem. i have ecryptfs on my home folder and the text console doesn't mount it
[09:26] <ina_> that's why there's no .Xautority
[09:26] <cantoo> you can copy it back ina_
[09:26] <cantoo> if you need it
[09:26] <cantoo> regenerate one works often.  someone might even have one for ya they can pastebin
[09:27] <cantoo> ooh
[09:27] <cantoo> you must need a undeleting utility
[09:27] <cantoo> those are in the ubuntu repos
[09:27] <cantoo> sudo apt-cache search undelete
[09:27] <cantoo> don't be creating new files
[09:27] <k1l> no need for that
[09:28] <cantoo> creating a new file can overwrite your data
[09:28] <cantoo> also, be failsafe with those utilities
[09:28] <cantoo> if it says do not abort the scan, never abort the scan or that sucker is gone
[09:28] <cantoo> i'm that stupid.  and i'm always that stupid sometimes
[09:30] <debkad> what happening here
[09:31] <hrusti> Hi. I cannot boot to windows 10 after installing ubuntu 16.04. I have tried to repair it with boot-repair (reinstall grub2) but there is still only ubuntu in boot menu. Logs: http://paste2.org/6Ap0c9zZ What am I missing?
[09:31] <ina_> i think i've found the login problem
[09:31] <ina_> i changed my user password but not the ecryptfs-password
[09:32] <debkad> congratulation ina_ in advance
[09:33] <cantoo> ina_, you can always recover wheel password from recovery grub entry with a slight modification of init=#/bin/bash
[09:33] <cantoo> in the old days.  it was there by default
[09:33] <cantoo> without the init being needed
[09:33] <debkad> hrusti: i think the problem is in sda2
[09:34] <ina_> according to wiki.ubuntuusers.de, the ecryptfs-password is changed too when the user-passwd is changed...
[09:34] <k1l> ina_: depends on how you changed the password.
[09:34] <cantoo> i use ubuntuforums
[09:35] <cantoo> careful what you do, even when it seems like its the perfect solution happened to me.  so be careful
[09:35] <cantoo> its cleaner than most anything and you get answers
[09:35] <ikonia> cantoo: please stop saying random generic things
[09:35] <glitchd> ina_, sry, i have to go, hope you figure it out=)
[09:35] <cantoo> ikonia, i am not saying random generic things
[09:36] <hrusti> debkad: I can see that sda2 has unknown mount type. But I guess it should still boot to windows because it is on another partition?
[09:36] <ikonia> cantoo: it certainly appears that way
[09:36] <cantoo> someone in .de needed help and i pointed to someone that may be better
[09:36] <k1l> cantoo: you do. you did give false advice with undelete, you did give false advice with changing the grub parameters. stop that
[09:36] <debkad> hrusti: yeah correct
[09:36] <cantoo> may i ask by what ikonia ?
[09:36] <ikonia> cantoo: by what ?
[09:36] <debkad> hrusti: secure boot is disabled from bios?
[09:36] <cantoo> second grub entry for recovery i could not change my admin password with default grub in either 16.04 or 14.04
[09:37] <cantoo> without having to add something to it.  i already said what
[09:37] <k1l> cantoo: that is totally unrelated to the issue that user got.
[09:37] <cantoo> sudo apt-cache search undelete is the correct answer if you need to find a file that no longer exists
[09:38] <debkad> apt-cache doesn't need sudo
[09:38] <hrusti> debkad: hm.. not sure.. Should be?
[09:38] <cantoo> i apologize, and it should be obvious to anyone helping that it was on obvious mistake
[09:38] <k1l> cantoo: again: that is not helping the user asking for support
[09:38] <cantoo> an obvious mistake cannot be forgiven in this channel ?
[09:38] <debkad> hrusti: of course if you need to update/repair grub , when done you can enable it later
[09:39] <hrusti> debkad: Ok. Let me check. Brb
[09:39] <debkad> cantoo: give right answer or don't
[09:39] <ina_> k1l: i used the account manager of kde
[09:39] <k1l> ina_: ok, i dont know if that kde software handles that correctly.
[09:40] <cantoo> to the point an obvious mistaken can't be made ?  get both right ?  i said it was an honest mistake
[09:43] <dafhew> what is my root password?
[09:43] <k1l> dafhew: there is non. on ubuntu we use sudo
[09:43] <k1l> !sudo | dafhew
[09:43] <dafhew> how can I su into root?
[09:44] <k1l> dafhew: for commands preface them with sudo (but dont do that for all commands.). if you need a root shell, then use sudo -i
[09:45] <dafhew> ah, thanks
[09:45] <dafhew> will things break in Software, if I install packages iwth apt-get?
[09:46] <hrusti> debkad: secure boot was disabled
[09:47] <dafhew> is there a nice text editor that possibly supports C/PHP syntax highlighting? which would you recommend as a secondary web browser? how do I edit the keymap?
[09:47] <debkad> hrusti: when you reboot you see all the OS's except windows?
[09:49] <hrusti> debkad: I have only ubuntu and windows 10 so I see only ubuntu
[09:49] <Grorco> did anyone see/ respond I have a horrible connection
[09:49] <dafhew> is µTorrent only for Windows? Transmission is not so nice for me
[09:49] <debkad> hrusti: try: sudo os-prober <== did this show windows?
[09:49] <hrusti> debkad: secure ubuntu, and system confugiration (bios) as well
[09:50] <ina_> thx for help! i've solved the problem by unwrapping the ecryptfs-passphrase with the old password and wrapping it by the new one
[09:50] <hrusti> debkad: nope
[09:51] <debkad> hrusti: ls /etc/grub.d ?
[09:51] <dafhew> btw, the command I needed was 'xset s 0 0', in case someone else comes in with the same complaint :)
[09:52] <hrusti> debkad: 00_header 10_linux 30_os-prober 40_custom README 05_debian_theme 20_linux_xen 30_uefi-firmware 41_custom
[09:52] <debkad> hrusti: i mean see if ls -l /etc/grub.d does shown xx_os-prober as executable
[09:52] <debkad> except the README
[09:53] <hrusti> debkad: yes it is
[09:53] <debkad> weird
[09:54] <hrusti> os-prober does not return anything?
[09:54] <dafhew> "Need to get 0 B/37.5 kB of archives." :D
[09:54] <wish^> Starting VirtualBox kernel modules * modprobe vboxdrv failed. Please use 'dmesg' to find out why. Is there a reason that after i ran normal ubuntu updates i can no longer start virtualbox because it is incomplete?
[09:54] <dafhew> how do I fix errors that were encountered while processing libboost-filesystem1.58.0:amd64?
[09:55] <wish^> The kernel modules wont start
[09:55] <dafhew> "package is in a very bad inconsistent state" :P
[09:56] <k1l> wish^: what ubuntu release is that? what kernel is installed?
[09:56] <ChetManly> # Generated by sensors-detect on Mon Sep 26 03:34:46 2016# Chip   drivers it87
[09:56] <dafhew> what key combinations do I use for copy and paste? can I somehow set the Windows key to be used to bring up the program menu?
[09:56] <wish^> 14.04 4.4.0-38-generic
[09:56] <ChetManly> but I do not see it87 with lsmod
[09:57] <hrusti> debkad: btw I can browse windows partition in ubuntu file explorer
[09:57] <k1l> wish^: is "linux-generic-lts-xenial" installed?
[09:57] <debkad> hrusti: take a look here https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2295300
[09:58] <wish^> linux-generic-lts-xenial is already the newest version.
[09:58] <wish^> When i try install it
[09:58] <k1l> wish^: ok. so run "dmesg" and see what the issue is there
[09:59] <wish^>   886.300782] capability: warning: `VirtualBox' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)
[09:59] <ChetManly> wish^:  you are using kernel from newer distributions eg.16.04 with yours 14.04
[09:59] <wish^> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack i went here
[10:00] <wish^> I thought that is the kernel i want to be using
[10:00] <dafhew> using Ubuntu under stress takes me back to 1989 and Amiga 500
[10:00] <debkad> i have the same kernel but un trusty
[10:00] <debkad> on*
[10:00] <ChetManly> wish^: not that it bad or anything just why you have the xenial part
[10:00] <k1l> wish^: that is a  virtualbox issue. not a ubuntu or linux one
[10:00] <k1l> wish^: ChetManly that enablement stack kernel is fine
[10:00] <wish^> k1l, It started happening right after i ran system updates and it did alot of linux-generic-header updates
[10:02] <wish^> k1l, Besides that is just a warning and has nothing to do with the kernel modules not starting
[10:02] <PCdude> hey all :)
[10:02] <hrusti> debkad: ok I will check what bbs boot priority is set to brb
[10:02] <PCdude> I want to add mail support to ubuntu landscape
[10:02] <ChetManly> k1l: when did this become a thing?
[10:02] <k1l> ChetManly: since years
[10:03] <k1l> !hwe | ChetManly
[10:03] <PCdude> how do I do that?
[10:03] <k1l> wish^: you have a uefi + vbox issue.
[10:04] <ChetManly> k1l: can you tell me what the issue with wish is? I came late
[10:05] <k1l> wish^: actually its an issue with the signing key from vbox and secureboot
[10:05] <wish^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23233089/
[10:05] <wish^> This is the issue
[10:06] <wish^> i have tried to reinstall dkms package
[10:06] <k1l> wish^: is virtualbox-dkms installed?
[10:06] <wish^> and it completes the install and still cant start the kernel modules
[10:06] <wish^> at the end
[10:06] <ChetManly> wish^: install build-essentials, always works for me
[10:06] <wish^> build-essential is already the newest version.
[10:06] <ChetManly> wish^: gives you extra stuff but Ive never had it fail
[10:07] <ChetManly> well then
[10:07] <wish^> This exact same thing happened once before
[10:07] <wish^> And i managed to fix it, then i ran updates again and back to square one
[10:07] <wish^> I was in here then too
[10:08] <ChetManly> when I get new system I get the restricted extras then build essentials before I do anything e lse
[10:08] <wish^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23233137/
[10:08] <hrusti> debkad: I have only one option and that is my Hard drive or I can disable it
[10:10] <wish^> Do i maybe need to revert back to older kernel?
[10:10] <ChetManly> I have newer kernel and vbox on 14.04
[10:11] <debkad> hrusti: there is uefi option too
[10:11] <ChetManly> maybe reinstall build-essential and see if it will do the dkms hook
[10:11] <ikonia> built-essentials are just tools
[10:11] <ikonia> it will not do anyhing, it's a meta-package
[10:14] <Grorco> Hi can anyone point me in the right direction. I wrote a http server using python to run on a wireless ap using ubuntu mate 16.04 I'm trying to figure out how to redirect all traffic to my loopback
[10:14] <dafhew> I've now had 100% hard drive use for 20 minutes - this is just like Windows
[10:15] <naughtypirate> @Grorco just use the iptables input chain
[10:15] <ikonia> Grorco: just use iptables, or make your httpd server use it
[10:15] <naughtypirate> LOOL
[10:16] <sorin-mihai> looking through the enabled units in systemd, i see that rsyslog is also enabled. why is that, on a fresh install, considering that systemd is used and it has journald already?
[10:16] <naughtypirate> legacy support basically
[10:16] <ikonia> what ?
[10:17] <hrusti> debkad: It's not? Only 'HDD' and 'disabled' options?
[10:17] <wish^> k1l, ChetManly So for anyone curious, the issue arises when the kernel is updated the EFI_SECURE_BOOT_SIG_ENFORCE kernel config has been enabled.. And that  screws with virtualbox
[10:17] <Grorco> naughtypirate, ikonia, thanks I'll look into setting up the iptables
[10:17] <wish^> So i needed to do sudo mokutil --disable-validation
[10:17] <wish^> Restart my computer and disable secure boot, and now everything is fine
 wish^: actually its an issue with the signing key from vbox and secureboot
[10:19] <wish^> k1l, Did not se that
[10:19] <wish^> see*
[10:19] <dafhew> "What I did to stop it without effect: run some command found in the internet" :D
[10:20] <debkad> hrusti: i never used UFEI as i haven't that on this ild pc, that up to you on whick key from your keyboard when you boot to let you choose what system to boot on
[10:21] <dafhew> "Light Locker Settings" :P
[10:21] <ChetManly> secureboot FTW
[10:23] <sorin-mihai> naughtypirate, so it is safe to disable rsyslog? here's my current list of enabled units: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/anonymous/9af6b6e55bd5d41f8d0a0100eb486035/raw/787eda0b40c930ba89896ac7dff0a674bde6c6e0/gistfile1.txt
[10:23] <andywork> join #windows
[10:23] <andywork> ops
[10:24] <arkouda> Hello hello :)  would you like to visit www.greekircnet.gr?
[10:24] <wish^> Thanks k1l
[10:25] <ducasse> sorin-mihai: i'd keep rsyslog, since journald logs in a binary format - plain text logs can be useful
[10:25] <dafhew> what is Ubuntu One and for what reason?
[10:25] <dafhew> does the desktop Ubuntu do some daily housecleaning or is it even running a crond?
[10:26] <dafhew> can I monitor disk and network use?
[10:29] <dafhew> how do I install Flash?
[10:29] <dafhew> where can I find instructions and suggestions?
[10:29] <dafhew> is there a user's manual for Ubuntu?
[10:31] <dafhew> why doesn't Software have a scrollbar?
[10:32] <r0bert__> hi
[10:33] <dafhew> how do I find programs?
[10:34] <naughtypirate> kid plz
[10:35] <naughtypirate> dafhew: Either ask a specific question or just grab  a book , noone is going to reply to a million random questions
[10:37] <ducasse> !manual | dafhew
[10:37] <ChetManly> !it87
[10:38] <ronaldsmazitis> jpg.crdownload file
[10:38] <rock77> hello everybody! I am getting error while packaging error is http://paste.ubuntu.com/23233231/
[10:38] <ronaldsmazitis> nn.jpg.crdownlide file I can't delete from my nautilus desktop
[10:39] <ronaldsmazitis> help me remove icon
[10:39] <ronaldsmazitis> It DOES NOT RENAMES OR DELETES
[10:39] <debkad> ronaldsmazitis: where is that file?
[10:40] <ronaldsmazitis> it's kinda archieve from music video file picture I downloaded
[10:40] <ronaldsmazitis> on my /Desktop
[10:40] <ronaldsmazitis> I tried to rm it, it does not work
[10:40] <ronaldsmazitis> command line
[10:41] <debkad> ronaldsmazitis: stat -c "%U:%G" Desktop/jpg.crdownload will show you whois the owner for it
[10:42] <dafhew> naughtypirate: is your objection the quality of my questions or the number thereof? you gotta pick one...
[10:42] <dafhew> thanks, ubottu! I mean, ducasse :)
[10:42] <ronaldsmazitis> it shows there is no such folder
[10:43] <ronaldsmazitis> no such file or directory
[10:43] <debkad> ronaldsmazitis: that was just an example i don't know where or what is called
[10:43] <debkad> stat -c "%U:%G" /path/to/that/file
[10:43] <naughtypirate> lol
[10:44] <naughtypirate> time to c/p some forkbombs
[10:44] <Waleed> Hi guys
[10:44] <debkad> hi
[10:44] <Waleed> Need help with flushing dns cache in 16.04
[10:45] <Waleed> Any help appreciated
[10:45] <debkad> go ahead someone will answer you
[10:46] <Waleed> Old method not working.  /etc/init.d/dns-clean
[10:47] <Waleed> Tried networking force-reload
[10:47] <rock77>  I am getting error while packaging in debian.error is http://paste.ubuntu.com/23233231/
[10:53] <dafhew> I apologize for exceeding the limit of questions, but if someone wants to answer any of them, please PM, since I am going afk
[10:54] <debkad> Waleed: with sudo?
[10:59] <debkad> dafhew: you can find a program by typing first 2 or 3 letters and hit tab, if you mean packages, apt-cache search PACKAGE_NAME
[11:00] <Avani> Hey all! I'm running a live Ubuntu 16.04 LTS from USB. It doesn't have synaptic. What's the best way to configure repos for it to use, in GUI?
[11:01] <Avani> I tried apt-get install synaptic, but it tells me tat has no installation candidate
[11:02] <Avani> And "Ubuntu Software" doesn't seem to have a menu for selecting repos
[11:02] <sorin-mihai> apt update
[11:03] <sorin-mihai> then you'll be able to search packages in the repos already enabled
[11:03] <Avani> I see
[11:03] <debkad> yes that will refresh the repo
[11:03] <john_tmp> hey guys, maybe you can help me with my problem: I'm running ubuntu 16.04 on a dell xps 13(2013) and my wifi ist unstable: connecting is fine, but the connection itself gets randomly slow. I'm using the recommended broadcom driver (http://pastebin.com/raw/RXHUh8fy)
[11:07] <Avani> sorin-mihai: So keep using apt instead of apt-get that used to be the old command?
[11:07] <kernello> hello everyone, I wanted to install a tool from software center, and was prompted to enter my password as usual. but before I entered it the notice appeared on the upper right corner that the tool was installed. I tried twice more, the same??!
[11:08] <kernello> when I checked it via dash, the tool was not shown, though
[11:09] <naughtypirate> kernello try installing it with apt-get see what that says
[11:09] <kernello> naughtypirate, now I already installed it, but can deinstall and check
[11:10] <naughtypirate> kernello , no need apt-get will tell you its already installed
[11:10] <debkad> john_tmp: not sure if this can help http://askubuntu.com/questions/764387/very-slow-internet-connection-on-ubuntu-16-04
[11:11] <SomethisGER> urrggh, Nano is so annoying in Tmux ... :-)
[11:12] <kernello> naughtypirate, yes, it says installed
[11:12] <debkad> :)
[11:12] <kernello> but what I told happened before I entered my login password
[11:12] <SomethisGER> you can't select text because Alt-A is blocked and you can't delete mistyped words fast.
[11:12] <kernello> and strange again: the referred tool in sw center now still displays 'install' button, whereas it had to be 'remove' button
[11:13] <SomethisGER> I wished there were a Gedit variant for the terminal.
[11:13] <joseph> ?
[11:13] <kernello> and it still asks me login password when I click on install for an already installed tool
[11:13] <kernello> something seems to be wrong there, noß
[11:13] <kernello> ?
[11:14] <Dubna_K42> I have heard that there's no need to use clamav
[11:14] <sonu_nk> hi how to rest proxy setting in ubuntu 14 ?
[11:14] <sonu_nk> *rest =reset
[11:14] <debkad> Dubna_K42: yes, it is used just to scan M$ things
[11:15] <john_tmp> debkad: i stumpled upon ipv6 earlier and disabled it in the network manager. trying out the askubuntu solution now
[11:15] <Grorco> I'm getting an unresolved host error when trying sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -p all -d 127.0.0.1
[11:15] <joseph> how do u install stuff
[11:17] <naughtypirate> There is RTFM-install
[11:17] <debkad> joseph: synaptic or apt-get install
[11:17] <joseph> ?
[11:18] <ducasse> !manual | joseph
[11:19] <Dubna_K42> I am using dual-boot, and hardly use Windows 10. Can a microsoft virus run on Ubuntu? Or it will go to a long sleep till forever??
[11:20]  * spratapakshay 
[11:20] <john_tmp_> didnt work out as planned. Note: i am pinging my router in order to measure the performance (http://pastebin.com/raw/SA4YtM68)
[11:20] <john_tmp_> ubuntu dell is the only device in my network with that problem
[11:21] <k1l> joseph: use the software center?
[11:22] <joseph> idk what that is
[11:22] <naughtypirate> Dubna_K42 no dont worry about that too much , there is some malware that attacks other drives such as some cryptolockers but in general , dont worry, always backup data
[11:22] <sonu_nk> hi is there any one expericed with composser intalltion.
[11:23] <k1l> joseph: can you give more detail? what is your issue exactly? you dont know how to use a desktop and a software-center?
[11:23] <SomethisGER> Any suggestions how to quickly correct a mistyped word in nano? (e.g. alt-del in bash shell)
[11:23] <joseph> idk how to use this thing my dad put on a laptop for me to take a class
[11:24] <Dubna_K42> naughtypirate: I am not able to back up Microsoft datas right now, due to lack of external storage. Is it vulnerable?
[11:26] <Dubna_K42> By the way, if I keep those Microsoft drives mounted, will they be affected by the malwares?
[11:26] <k1l> Dubna_K42: what malware? malware for ubuntu?
[11:27] <k1l> joseph: open the software center and install the software you need
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[11:28] <Bent0> I have this box which doesnt do any video output after POST. It works on another monitor but not this simple 1440x900 VGA monitor. Any pointers?
[11:28] <naughtypirate> Dubna_K42 no, its far far more likely that if u have an infection of sorts it will run on windows and needs a booted OS to run , therefor mounting it from *nix can be considered safe, this will go for 99%+ of the cases
[11:28] <Dubna_K42> k1l: microsoft malwares
[11:28] <osamamhd> hi
[11:29] <k1l> Dubna_K42: they dont work on ubuntu. but those malware can do changes to all your data on the disks, including the bootloader setup etc. so better ask the #windows guys how to prepare yourself
[11:29] <Avani> Hmm. The manual doesn't say anything about Live Ubuntu
[11:29] <joseph> what is the software center
[11:30] <lapion> ubiquity is realy annoying even though I have not changed any partitions, not even created a new filesystem ubiquity still refuses to continue without reloading the partition table
[11:30] <k1l> Avani: look at systemsettings -> software and updates
[11:30] <naughtypirate> joseph: a fancy frontend for the ubuntu package manager
[11:30] <Avani> k1l: thanks! Will check it out
[11:30] <lapion> it's stuck on detecting file systems
[11:31] <k1l> joseph: its the same like on android or iOS or windows.
[11:31] <joseph> i dont use any of those i use desktop
[11:31] <Avani> k1l: Yups! That's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a bunch!
[11:32] <osamamhd> what
[11:32] <lapion> I have 3 partitions one contains the iso image the other two contain a valid swap and an empty ext4fs
[11:32] <Avani> joseph: Press the "windows key" or "super key". Then type "Ubuntu software"
[11:32] <Avani> You should be able to see and click "Ubuntu software" to open it theren
[11:32] <ronaldsmazitis> folder removed itself after restart, thanks for giving stat command
[11:35] <joseph> its not working
[11:35] <k1l> joseph: what exactly is not working?
[11:35] <ChetManly> !snapshot
[11:36] <ChetManly> !backup
[11:36] <joseph> idk how to do anything
[11:37] <k1l> joseph: ok, if you cant even describe what the issue is we cant help you in here.
[11:37] <ChetManly> I want a snapshot of my system
[11:38] <ppf> ChetManly: can your FS do that?
[11:38] <k1l> ChetManly: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/2596/comparison-of-backup-tools
[11:38] <ChetManly> pardon
[11:39] <ppf> what filesystem are you using
[11:39] <ppf> some of them can do snapshotting
[11:39] <ppf> apart from that, do a full backup, copy your harddrive someplace else, or dd it into an iso, or basically anything backup tools do for you
[11:40] <Avani> Thanks a ton k1l ! Once I enabled universe repos, I could install what i needed. :)
[11:41] <Avani> Signing off for now. tc y'all!
[11:44] <firefighter> Hello. I installed Ubuntu 16.04 with an old monitor.  Decided to try lubuntu-desktop (via sudo on command line)  The boot shows, Lubuntu and the shutdown shows Lubuntu but the session desktop looks like Ubuntu (Icons, background etc)
[11:44] <firefighter> Do I need to do something to ubuntu 16 to use the Lubuntu Desktop Environment
[11:45] <firefighter> or should it work "out of the box" after "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop"    ?
[11:45] <ppf> firefighter: what's your dm? lightdm?
[11:45] <ppf> you can click the icon next to your username and choose a DE
[11:46] <debkad> firefighter: may be remove ubuntu-desktop or something related to it but may be this will fire up many thingy
[11:46] <firefighter> hi thanks for responging
[11:46] <debkad> ah i missed that part
[11:46] <firefighter> Do not know dm
[11:47] <ppf> the thing where you type in your password upon boot
[11:47] <firefighter> Do not see my username on the screen as it is
[11:47] <debkad> autologin?
[11:47] <ppf> in case of autologin, log out of your current session and you should fall back to dm
[11:47] <firefighter> Ok, at boot there is no opetion as I remember
[11:48] <firefighter> I have Lubuntu on another box and can choose at boot and login
[11:48] <ppf> you probably configured autologin
[11:48] <firefighter> I have it set up to loging with pw
[11:48] <firefighter> Ok, if that is default, that is what I did
[11:49] <ppf> it's not default, you'll have enabled it during setup. log out of your current session and you should be brought to the login screen
[11:49] <firefighter> ok logging out
[11:49] <firefighter> out
[11:49] <debkad> and choose the lubuntu/lxde session
[11:50] <Bent0> The second Ubuntu changes its resolution at boot (still all text) I lose video and it seems not to boot any further cause i cannot SSH into it after a few mins. When I connect it to a diff monitor it all works. Any ideas?
[11:50] <firefighter> There is  a login with my Username and no options
[11:50] <Bent0> If I boot it with the working monitor and then connect if to the other one after boot I get video :s
[11:50] <firefighter> Only entry for passwird
[11:50] <ppf> there is an icon next to your username
[11:50] <debkad> nmap 192.168.1.101:108
[11:50] <ppf> a circle, or something like the ubuntu logo
[11:51] <debkad> sorry
[11:51] <firefighter> It is up on the upper taskbar.
[11:51] <firefighter> That should do the trick
[11:51] <crazyadm> how do i search for app?
[11:51] <firefighter> Will try, many thanks!
[11:51] <ppf> http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fa%2Fa8%2FLightDM_1.2.1_on_Ubuntu_12.04.png%2F250px-LightDM_1.2.1_on_Ubuntu_12.04.png&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLightDM&h=188&w=250&tbnid=R5ADEvY8f43MMM%3A&docid=rIB11kapvAMi_M&ei=uQvpV530OsSNUcXng-gB&tbm=isch&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=1417&page=0&start=0&ndsp=16&ved=0ahUKEwjdtLn5-6zPAhXERhQ
[11:51] <crazyadm> apt-get search returns nothing
[11:51] <ppf> KHcXzAB0QMwgzKAAwAA&bih=993&biw=958
[11:51] <ppf> uh, sorry
[11:51] <debkad> apt-cache
[11:52] <ppf> firefighter: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/LightDM_1.2.1_on_Ubuntu_12.04.png
[11:52] <debkad> ppf: you can use tiny
[11:52] <ppf> there's an ubuntu logo next to the username. that's what you click
[11:53] <ppf> debkad: yeah, had the wrong link in my mouse, sorry again
[11:53] <sonu_nk> ho how can i reset my proxy setting  ?
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:53] <debkad> there is a script in the net about it
[11:53] <debkad> brb
[11:53] <firefighter> That circle icon on the taskbar was the key.   Thanks! ppf , debkad
[11:54] <debkad> No problem
[11:54] <debkad> hi BluesKaj
[11:54] <ppf> welcome
[11:54] <sonu_nk> hi why i am facing this error  : PHP Warning:  file_get_contents(https://getcomposer.org/versions): failed to open stream: Connection timed out in - on line 762
[11:54] <BluesKaj> hi debkad
[11:54] <ChetManly> k1l: holy poop
[11:56] <NoCode> Why won't gufw open up a series of ports when I tell it to? Testing when enabled, said ports are still closed.
[11:57] <ChetManly> k1l: what do you use
[11:58] <k1l> ChetManly: no snapshots.
[11:58] <ChetManly> fresh?
[11:58] <ppf> if you want snapshots you should let your FS do that
[11:59] <ChetManly> my filesystem?
[11:59] <ppf> (if you can)
[11:59] <ppf> ChetManly: yes
[11:59] <debkad> or dd the unmonted filesystem
[11:59] <ChetManly> ahh dd
[12:00] <debkad> dd if=source of=destination
[12:00] <ChetManly> yep
[12:00] <debkad> destination can be image or device
[12:00] <debkad> same for source
[12:00] <ChetManly> does setting  bs-1G make a huge difference
[12:00] <k1l> be careful with dd. it can erase all your data if you mess with the command
[12:00] <debkad> yeah
[12:00] <ChetManly> =*
[12:00] <Ben64> dd isn't a good backup solution
[12:01] <ChetManly> I just want one
[12:01] <Ben64> one what
[12:01] <k1l> ChetManly: i linked you a comparison of different solutions. why dont you choose one?
[12:01] <debkad> what your goal?
[12:01] <ChetManly> no rolling snaps
[12:01] <ChetManly> one snapshot period
[12:02] <ChetManly> of root only
[12:02] <debkad> you can just use something like rsync
[12:02] <ChetManly> i think dd would be best
[12:02] <debkad> o_o
[12:02] <ChetManly> do need to sync thou
[12:03] <ChetManly> why not then?
[12:03] <Ben64> dd would have to read&write the whole partition
[12:03] <ChetManly> dont*
[12:03] <ChetManly> one time ...would be ok wouldnt it
[12:03] <debkad> if you need to copy/backup specific things then use rsync or any tool that do that kind of stuff
[12:04] <BluesKaj> dd can be fatal , but if one is careful, also very useful
[12:05] <ChetManly> k1l: I did look through it all
[12:05] <ChetManly> like my OS is on / and everything else is elsewhere
[12:05] <Grorco> okay I'm doing something wrong with these iptable chains I tried adding a rule to OUTPUT to take any protocol and set the destination to 127.0.0.1 and it did nothing what am I missing?
[12:05] <ChetManly> like different disks
[12:06] <ChetManly> I just hate customizing all over again when I totally bork my system
[12:06] <ChetManly> it takes forever
[12:07] <naughtypirate> so dont be a noob ?
[12:07] <ChetManly> lol
[12:08] <ChetManly> hard sometimes, I tldr-itis
[12:08] <ChetManly> I have *
[12:08] <lapion> workaround foun: just use toram and and more than 2GB of ram
[12:09] <ChetManly> fudge!!! I have window dual boot so dd will be .....
[12:10] <ChetManly> hows this gonna work, that partition is huge
[12:10] <ChetManly> fudge cakes!!!
[12:10] <Ben64> why does dual boot make your partition huge
[12:11] <ChetManly> same drive
[12:11] <Ben64> doesn't answer the question at all
[12:12] <demetris> hi
[12:12] <ChetManly> oh wait the would work
[12:12] <demetris> i have several .7z archives that all have in them a folder and in that folder are 2-3 binaries
[12:13] <demetris> i want those binaries extracted in a single folder without any subfolders
[12:13] <demetris> any help
[12:13] <ChetManly> dd if=/spotwheremybackupis of=/dev/sda5
[12:14] <ChetManly> id thats the correct partition would that mess up windows install or grub or anything?
[12:14] <ChetManly> if*
[12:15] <Ben64> well you can't do that when the system is running
[12:15] <ChetManly> yeah live disc
[12:15] <ChetManly> but that will mess everything up
[12:16] <ChetManly> drives will be renamed and such
[12:16] <Ben64> what?
[12:17] <Ben64> demetris: 7za e blah.7z
[12:17] <ChetManly> my system is weird I can get sda with one live disc and sdb with another, they seem to get read different sometimes
[12:17] <ChetManly> without changing anyting
[12:17] <Ben64> ok so make sure you pick the right one
[12:18] <ChetManly> right, would there be a way to use uuid?
[12:18] <ChetManly> or is that install specific?
[12:18] <ducasse> ChetManly: /dev/disk/by-uuid/...
[12:18] <Ben64> yeah that^
[12:19] <demetris> Ben64, i have hunders of blah.7z
[12:19] <Ben64> for i in *7z; do blah; done
[12:20] <ChetManly> why doesnt canonical make a offical ubuntu youtube channel and make some money
[12:21] <demetris> Ben64, blah is the name of the z7 archive?
[12:22] <Ben64> blah is what you're doing with each one
[12:23] <demetris> let me try
[12:23] <yuppie> whats up guys, so i have puppet installing icingaweb2, but it seems like dpkg is failing to configure the package
[12:24] <demetris> for i in *; do 7za e "${i%/}.7z" "$i"; done
[12:24] <demetris> what about this one?
[12:24] <Ben64> why did you do all that ${i%/} stuff
[12:25] <demetris> because i waqnt to batch extract them
[12:25] <crazyadm> i installed ubuntu-desktop
[12:25] <crazyadm> how can i start gdm?
[12:25] <Ben64> demetris: do 7za e $i; done
[12:25] <demetris> ah
[12:25] <demetris> thanks
[12:25] <Ben64> dunno where you got all that stuff
[12:25] <crazyadm> how do i get that gui login screen?
[12:26] <crazyadm> anyone know?
[12:26] <crazyadm> help ?
[12:26] <Ben64> crazyadm: chill out
[12:26] <geirha> why 'e' and not 'x'?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> crazyadm:  use lightdm
[12:26] <Ben64> geirha: because demetris doesn't want the folders
[12:26] <crazyadm> already installed ubuntu-desktop package
[12:26] <crazyadm> is that unity
[12:26] <crazyadm> ?
[12:26] <demetris> for i in *; do  7za e $i; done
[12:26] <demetris> doesnt work
[12:27] <Ben64> elaborate
[12:27] <crazyadm> what
[12:27] <geirha> for file in ./*.7z; do 7za e "$file"; done
[12:27] <demetris> Error:
[12:27] <demetris> there is no such archive
[12:27] <crazyadm> what does that mean to me
[12:27] <crazyadm> elaborate
[12:27] <Ben64> crazyadm: nothing
[12:27] <yuppie> you guys want to see an error? https://gist.github.com/internaught/ef4e783d2767aecdbe8b6c01a47a9aa0
[12:27] <crazyadm> so i installed ubuntu-desktop package
[12:27] <crazyadm> but don't know how to start it
[12:28] <crazyadm> help need
[12:28] <crazyadm> need help
[12:28] <Ben64> crazyadm: we're very aware of that. stop spamming
[12:28] <ducasse> !patience | crazyadm
[12:28] <demetris> oh yes!
[12:28] <demetris> thank you geirha
[12:28] <crazyadm> i have to know. im in hurry
[12:28] <yuppie> crazyadm is X running?
[12:28] <demetris> works like a charm
[12:28] <crazyadm> yuppie, yes it works fine.
[12:28] <yuppie> open a shell and type "startx"
[12:28] <crazyadm> startx right?
[12:28] <yuppie> lol
[12:28] <Ben64> don't do startx
[12:28] <yuppie> what'd you install it on?
[12:28] <yuppie> why dont you just download and install ubuntu server?
[12:29] <crazyadm> install on server
[12:29] <yuppie> i mean...
[12:29] <yuppie> desktop
[12:29] <crazyadm> already did
[12:29] <yuppie> re-image it
[12:29] <yuppie> lol
[12:29] <crazyadm> no
[12:29] <ChetManly> is preload stil a thing?
[12:30] <crazyadm> now
[12:30] <crazyadm> how do i start this shlt
[12:30] <crazyadm> gdm, no
[12:30] <crazyadm> i see two gdm
[12:30] <debkad> o_o
[12:30] <crazyadm> gdm and gdm3
[12:30] <crazyadm> which should install
[12:30] <debkad> one of them is a ghost
[12:30] <Ben64> crazyadm: neither, use lightdm as someone said earlier
[12:31] <crazyadm> what is that
[12:31] <Ben64> it's lightdm
[12:31] <crazyadm> is lightdm official ?
[12:31] <Ben64> yep
[12:31] <crazyadm> same as that ubuntu-desktop?
[12:31] <crazyadm> then yes
[12:31] <debkad> it is something lighty
[12:31] <Ben64> it's not the same as ubuntu-desktop. ubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[12:31] <crazyadm> how to make it to run at boot
[12:31] <debkad> better for lubuntu but can be for others
[12:31] <yuppie> can someone help me out installing icingaweb2 from a package? it's failing for some weird reason
[12:32] <demetris> geirha, you have save me half days work with cut pasting
[12:32] <Ben64> yuppie: pastebin errors
[12:32] <demetris> thanks
[12:32] <yuppie> Ben64 https://gist.github.com/internaught/ef4e783d2767aecdbe8b6c01a47a9aa0
[12:32] <Ben64> yuppie: ppas aren't supported
[12:32] <Ben64> talk to whoever runs it
[12:32] <yuppie> lol
[12:33] <debkad> crazyadm: run in the terminal: which lightdm and copy the resulted line and paste it to /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[12:33] <debkad> when you reboot your system will use it
[12:33] <crazyadm> ah ok
[12:34] <joelio> no, that's not correct way to do it
[12:34] <Keydns> i want a terminal package for emailing through google mail. something very very simple and self explanatory to setup. thanks
[12:34] <debkad> joelio: it can be done with systemd too
[12:36] <ducasse> Keydns: alpine is probably the simplest console mail client
[12:37] <Keydns> ok ty
[12:37] <crazyadm> can't find terminal in unity
[12:37] <crazyadm> lol
[12:38] <Southern_Gentlem> crazyadm,  press the superkey and type terminal
[12:38] <debkad> heh
[12:38] <debkad> may be gnome-terminal
[12:39] <jee1mr> ctrl+alt+t?
[12:40] <Azlux> hi all
[12:40] <EriC^^> hi
[12:41] <Azlux> is someone here responsable of this page ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[12:41] <Azlux> there are a real exploit with this old configuration
[12:41] <Azlux> they need to use this method : https://home.regit.org/netfilter-en/secure-use-of-helpers/
[12:42] <Azlux> the exploit use the helper of iptables :  https://github.com/rtsisyk/linux-iptables-contrack-exploit
[12:45] <Azlux> if the RELATED cstate is used, you need to ad a warning, because we can open port as we want.
[12:45] <Kartagis> ehlo
[12:45] <Ben64> Azlux: would help if you show what to change to what
[12:47] <Sillypirate> Sup , I have 2 boxes running, one with 14.04 and a 16.06 , now the glusterfs tools are at a different version across the releases, how do I correctly install the newer version on the older release ?
[12:47] <Ben64> Sillypirate: you don't
[12:47] <Kartagis> glxinfo | grep render gives me OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.8, 256 bits). do I need to have intel instead of llvmpipe so that I get full framerate on videos? if yes, how can I do it?
[12:47] <Azlux> Ben64: the line "sudo iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT" is depreciate, you need to remove the RELATED or add the needed helper one by one.
[12:48] <Azlux> of this line will use all helper activate and all helper are activate by default. And that is a real problem
[12:49] <Ben64> Azlux: it says above that... " in which case an inferior version can be used as last resort: "
[12:49] <CipherZero> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb  <—— i can copy all content of storage to usb?
[12:49] <CipherZero> [9:44pm]
[12:49] <Azlux> Ben64: the line "sudo iptables -A INPUT -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT" will do exactly the same
[12:50] <EriC^^> CipherZero: that will copy the whole disk /dev/sda as an image
[12:51] <EriC^^> it will clone it
[12:51] <Azlux> because for ftp for example, you need to add -"-ctstate RELATED -m helper --helper ftp" instead of the RELATED alone
[12:52] <CipherZero> EriC^^: then how can i see usb content?
[12:52] <EriC^^> CipherZero: you have to mount it
[12:52] <EriC^^> CipherZero: if you just want the content, then copy the files using rsync
[12:53] <Sillypirate> Ben64 is there no supported method for installing newer versions, really ?
[12:53] <ChetManly> will vbox keep my system from powersave?
[12:54] <Ben64> Sillypirate: you get the versions that are in the ubuntu repositories, which don't change within a release normally
[12:54] <Sillypirate> Ben64 , ugh so I would have to use an upstream repo or brick my box with a dist-upgrade iiuc
[12:55] <Ben64> Sillypirate: dist-upgrade doesn't do what you think it does
[12:55] <Sillypirate> Nah release upgrade
[12:55] <Sillypirate> whatever you ppl call it :P
[12:55] <Ben64> dist-upgrade is something you should be doing regularly
[12:55] <Sillypirate> I usually stay away from debian's , now i remember why
[12:56] <crazyadm> why
[13:00] <ChetManly> aptitude ftw
[13:01] <Kartagis> glxinfo | grep render gives me OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.8, 256 bits). do I need to have intel instead of llvmpipe so that I get full framerate on videos? if yes, how can I do it?
[13:01] <ahn0st> hey
[13:01] <Azlux> Ben64: so ?
[13:02] <ahn0st> how can i download the ubuntu graphical shell unity and use it for another linux distro?
[13:02] <Ben64> Azlux: doesn't seem like a big deal, that post was from 2009, tested on kernels 2.4 and 2.6
[13:03] <leo_> ciao
[13:03] <ahn0st> ??
[13:04] <ChetManly> !aptitude
[13:04] <Azlux> Ben64: I've test it on my VM on the current debian, this configuration can make real problem.  I have open mysql port of all my linux like that
[13:04] <maddawg2> ahn0st, i'm not sure you can
[13:04] <tomreyn> Kartagis: the opengl renderer string you got is the expected output for intel (integrated) graphics
[13:04] <ducasse> ahn0st: install it from the other distro's repos, if it exists
[13:04] <maddawg2> pretty sure it doesnt exist on any other repo
[13:05] <ahn0st> ok, thanks.
[13:05] <maddawg2> i know some ppl have tried to build it but it doesnt really work and is a pain
[13:05] <tomreyn> Kartagis: since no special drivers are needed for most intel graphics and 3-d acceleration, chances are you already have that working.
[13:05] <maddawg2> ubuntu has a patched version of gnome that allows unity to work
[13:05] <maddawg2> which other distros dont have
[13:05] <crazyadm> how to remove package and all its dependencies?
[13:06] <crazyadm> well?
[13:06] <maddawg2> i guess you could build it all yourself from scratch but i dont think it's worth the headache personally
[13:07] <ahn0st> hmmm, i see.
[13:07] <tomreyn> crazyadm: sudo apt-get remove <package>; sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:08] <tomreyn> crazyadm: with a default apt configuration, this will remove dependencies which were not manually installed and are no longer needed.
[13:08] <tomreyn> (by other packages)
[13:08] <shredding> i created a /etc/init/containers.conf like this: http://pastebin.com/NVvDGsPz
[13:08] <shredding> but the docker containers do not start after reboot and "service containers start" is not possible.
[13:09] <crazyadm> thank you
[13:09] <shredding> am i missing something?
[13:09] <Kartagis> tomreyn: then what can I do about fps?
[13:10] <ahn0st> maddwag2, http://lubuntu.me/tag/unity/
[13:12] <tomreyn> Kartagis: you can buy a dedicated video card and use that.
[13:13] <Kartagis> tomreyn: the thing is, it was working before I re-installed
[13:13] <tomreyn> Kartagis: you could also try to reduce compositing and graphical effects of your window manager / desktop
[13:14] <tomreyn> Kartagis: which ubuntu version, what's the output of: sudo lspci -knnv | fgrep -A13 VGA
[13:14] <tomreyn> !pastebin | Kartagis
[13:15] <workerbeetwo> Hey. Id like to get a file from an sftp server from a bashscript. There is serveral ways, but what would you prefer?
[13:15] <Sillypirate> scp + ssh keys
[13:16] <Kartagis> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23233511/
[13:17] <tomreyn> Kartagis: please also run this and see whether you lack any drivers: software-properties-gtk --open-tab=4
[13:17] <Sillypirate> workerbeetwo well rsync would be a better choice though
[13:20] <Kartagis> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11918318/Screenshot%20from%202016-09-26%2016%3A18%3A59.png
[13:20] <Kartagis> tomreyn: ^
[13:21] <pseudo_> hi guys. i was a bit careless with my text editor and overwrote an important file. I would like to try recovering the previous version of the file, but am having some trouble navigating the /home encryption that the file was stored in
[13:21] <pseudo_> can I run grep against the pseudo block device of the unencrypted home slice? df -h only shows me that it's mounted from the .Private folder, and I don't see anything in /dev/mapper
[13:22] <ducasse> pseudo_: ecryptfs doesn't use the device mapper
[13:22] <pseudo_> where can I find the block device for an encrypted /home partition? can I dd the unencrypted contents to another file?
[13:23] <sosko> Hey
[13:24] <sosko> welcom to linux
[13:24] <ducasse> pseudo_: no block device, the contents of an overwritten file are gone.
[13:24] <tomreyn> Kartagis: so i guess it's probably working fine. what makes you think it's slower now than it used to be?
[13:25] <Kartagis> tomreyn: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11918318/video.gif
[13:25] <pseudo_> ducasse: everything I know about filesystems and crypto says that recovery should be possible. is there something specific about ecryptfs that makes you say that?
[13:26] <ducasse> pseudo_: yes, it's a fuse fs (or something similar), the file would have been overwritten immediately afaik.
[13:29] <Kartagis> tomreyn: this is what every video looks like
[13:29] <workerbeetwo> Sillypirate: how would I use rsync on a sftp server?
[13:30] <tomreyn> Kartagis: downloading a 6 MB file at the 32 KB/sec transfer rate the server appears to be limited to will take a while.
[13:32] <tomreyn> Kartagis: so the issue is about video playback. it doesn't need to be an issue with graphics acceleration. maybe you just lack good support for this video format.
[13:33] <Kartagis> tomreyn: happens with any video
[13:33] <avid_fan> workerbeetwo: I believe you'd use "-e ssh", e.g. rsync -avP -e ssh <SOURCE> jdough@remote.host:<DEST>
[13:34] <Chunkyz> how can I run sudo without keep entering my password?
[13:35] <ikonia> change the sudo policy for that user/group
[13:35] <Frede___> I'm having some strange issues with my network. Randomly / periodically I lose the ability to look outside my LAN on my server, it seems. I have two computers - a pc and a server. I'm ssh'ing into the server from my pc. This ssh connection stays up at all times. When I try to download something from the internet it works alright. Suddenly it stops working. Running "sudo dhclient eth0" makes it work again, until it stops working some 5 minutes later. It's incre
[13:36] <tomreyn> Kartagis: http://askubuntu.com/questions/656762/how-to-install-common-media-codecs
[13:37] <Kartagis> tomreyn: I have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:37] <tomreyn> Kartagis: if you think it is an issue with graphics acceleration (and not just media codecs) you can also run 'glxgears' from a terminal and see the values it reports for FPS.
[13:37] <asdffff> ?
[13:38] <tomreyn> Kartagis: i'm sorry but i got to go, please consider to repeat your question and sum up the findings so far so someone else can look into it more with you.
[13:38] <Kartagis> okay thanks
[13:39] <Keydns> i am having trouble setting up alpine with gmail. anyone have any ideas?
[13:40] <ducasse> Keydns: you need to allow access from other clients in your gmail setup
[13:40] <Keydns> i have done that, i think the problem is the inbox patch. what do i do with that?
[13:51] <Keydns> i am getting a SMTP greeting failure: 421 SMTP connection broken (reply).
[13:52] <k__> we can do something?
[13:53] <urain> hello
[13:54] <Keydns> i am getting a SMTP greeting failure: 421 SMTP connection broken (reply).
[13:55] <k__> i want to hack library,everybody give me ,,,,,,,,,,,ways?
[13:56] <urain> .....
[13:56] <SchrodingersScat> hello
[13:56] <urain> 问一下有人会中文吗？没有就算了
[13:56] <SchrodingersScat> !jp | urain
[13:56] <urain> .....
[13:57] <urain> Chinese。。。。
[13:57] <SchrodingersScat> !cn | urain
[13:57] <urain> Thanks...
[13:57] <ducasse> k__: 'hack library'?
[13:57] <SchrodingersScat> !illegal | k__
[13:58] <k__> yeah,can you help me
[13:59] <avid_fan> Keydns: iirc, 421 is a temporary error on the other server end. Have you tried to connect to the remote server directly?
[14:04] <AimlessRaven> hi all, i have ubuntu 14.04 and play league of legends. When i have windows i have 70+ fps
[14:05] <smiche> I have a script that does kill -9 $(<"/home/obadmin/deploy/pid.txt") but output says that I'm using it wrong
[14:05] <AimlessRaven> now i use ubuntu 14.04 with playonlinux
[14:05] <AimlessRaven> and my fps dont go more than 40
[14:05] <smiche> It's pretty normal for games to perform worse on linux, at least from my experience. Generally bad driver support and emulation of windows libraries slow it down.
[14:06] <AimlessRaven> smiche:  (y)
[14:06] <smiche> are you using xorg or proprietary?
[14:06] <AimlessRaven> smiche:  no wine with playonlinux
[14:07] <smiche> I meant for graphics drivers.
[14:07] <AimlessRaven> smiche:  i use my nvidia
[14:07] <AimlessRaven> drivers
[14:08] <smiche> well I don't have any ideas
[14:10] <smiche> you can try enabling color-blind mode for a few extra fps
[14:11] <AimlessRaven> smiche:  where i can enable color-blind mode
[14:11] <smiche> in game options for league of legends :p
[14:11] <smiche> also try different settings around, windowed/borderless etc
[14:14] <smiche> found my problem, seems like sudo sh & sudo bash are a bit different
[14:16] <ubuntumate> i have a question about your nicknames
[14:16] <ubuntumate> is there any possibility that you intended to give yourself meaningful names?
[14:17] <\9> smiche: sh is not bash, but dash
[14:17] <crazyadm> so ubuntu server is quite easy
[14:18] <smiche> It doesn't switch if I provide #!/usr/bin/env bash ? well apparently it doesn't because it didn't work :d
[14:18] <DArqueBishop> !ot | ubuntumate
[14:19] <\9> smiche: the shebang is used by the kernel to figure out which command to use when the file is executed
[14:19] <crazyadm> is there channel about ubuntu server
[14:19] <\9> smiche: if you expressly say "sh something" then the kernel will use sh, because that's what you told it to
[14:20] <smiche> oh I see now, it would also be nice if sudo ./script.sh could figure out what to run it with too
[14:20] <yuppie> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:formorer/icinga
[14:20] <yuppie> does this fail on anyone else's machine?
[14:21] <\9> smiche: it does figure that out
[14:21] <smiche> doesn't seem to work with me
[14:22] <yuppie> site it down!
[14:22] <yuppie> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[14:23] <ioria> !info icinga
[14:23] <yuppie> icinga2 bby ;)
[14:23] <yuppie> launchpad is down so
[14:23] <yuppie> thats why
[14:23] <yuppie> !info icinga2
[14:23] <yuppie> !info icingaweb2
[14:23] <bobslaw-skillwit> http://i.imgur.com/hqo3ZSz.jpg
[14:24] <ubuntumate> crazyadm/ may i ask who you were talking with?
[14:24] <Exterminador> hello guys. i'm using xubuntu. does anyone knows any good vps system that works via ethernet? thanks
[14:25] <Exterminador> or how can set the entire system to use my vps as a proxy.
[14:25] <crazyadm> you, i was talking with you
[14:25] <ubuntumate> i join this channel and see some messages that confused me
[14:25] <ubuntumate> really ? plz don't play joke with me ,i am in trouble
[14:25] <smiche> Exterminador: Check out OpenVPN or VPN in general.
[14:26] <crazyadm> what trouble
[14:26] <crazyadm> im serious, no joke
[14:26] <Exterminador> smiche: openvpn requires profiles
[14:26] <crazyadm> i was and am talking to you
[14:26] <DArqueBishop> crazyadm: try #ubuntu-server.
[14:26] <crazyadm> already there
[14:27] <smiche> I think you can also configure it for groups, but is that a problem for you?
[14:28] <Exterminador> and this is a must have for me, as i'm using a public hotspot and even irc is blocked.. i've set HexCHat to use my vps as proxy.
[14:28] <Exterminador> i'd like to know if i can force the system to use it also
[14:28] <yuppie> crazyadm just start all over, with an install of ubuntu-desktop
[14:28] <Exterminador> as a global system proxy
[14:29] <smiche> maybe this might help? http://askubuntu.com/a/466011
[14:30] <DArqueBishop> Exterminador: I would second the call for OpenVPN, personally.
[14:31] <Exterminador> i cannot install openvpn on my vps. this is how i've done to use my vps as a proxy: ssh -p 22 -D 1080 user@host
[14:32] <Exterminador> then i've set up the proxy on Hexchat on 127.0.0.1 and port 1080
[14:32] <ubuntumate> crazyada,ni ren shi wo?
[14:32] <rypervenche> Exterminador: If you can't install a real VPN, then you will only be able to use the SSH socks5 proxy with programs that support socks5 proxies.
[14:33] <smiche> or perhaps turn your vps in a router, if that's even a thing
[14:33] <Exterminador> smiche: i cant do nothing on the vps. itś a rented vps
[14:34] <smiche> I can give you a 2month vps account if you need it so urgently :D
[14:34] <smiche> got 40 spare
[14:35] <smiche> do you have a router at home?
[14:35] <rypervenche> ubuntumate: Please see my private message.
[14:35] <Exterminador> smiche: nope. i use the phone as a wired connection
[14:36] <Exterminador> the hotspot is from FON and it have an mobile app that keeps u connected
[14:36] <Exterminador> for a lil monthly fee
[14:36] <smiche> well I'm out of ideas
[14:37] <Exterminador> ĩn windows im able to use hotspotshield
[14:37] <Exterminador> but i dont find any look alike to linux
[14:37] <Exterminador> :X
[14:37] <Exterminador> or i'm too dumb, wich is porlly the best option
[14:38] <Exterminador> i have xubuntu ate 2-3 months.. and never used linux in my entire life
[14:38] <Exterminador> *at
[14:39] <Exterminador> only the vps and its like the datacenter configured it
[14:39] <Exterminador> never touched it
[14:39] <smiche> if you want to visit blocked sites in your country you can use chrome proxy plugins, if you want traffic security use the hotspot with wpa2 and some 20+ symbol password, can use TOR as well, but those only forward web traffic
[14:40] <smiche> also perhaps this http://askubuntu.com/questions/6853/is-there-a-free-vpn-service-that-works-on-ubuntu
[14:41] <Exterminador> smiche: i'll take a look into that
[14:41] <smiche> good luck, I'm going home
[14:41] <AimlessRaven> is the important which version of nvidia drivers i use in additional drivers for best  fps in league of legends
[14:42] <smiche> AimlessRaven: It's pretty random from my experience, I'd give all of them a try if I was desperate
[14:42] <backbox> Hi
[14:42] <backbox> .-
[14:42] <AimlessRaven> smiche:  y
[14:42] <BluesKaj> AimlessRaven:  use the recommended driver
[14:43] <avid_fan> Exterminador: From here, https://goo.gl/ypFJzK, I found a link to sshuttle, https://github.com/apenwarr/sshuttle/. I've not tried this so ymmv.
[14:43] <smiche> any ways I've given up on gaming on linux, just dual-boot
[14:43] <backbox> anyone play league of legends
[14:43] <backbox> M
[14:43] <avid_fan> Exterminador: but it might be a way to tunnel everything through ssh
[14:43] <Exterminador> i need that to stream to a webradio
[14:43] <Exterminador> :D
[14:43] <ducasse> !backbox | backbox
[14:44] <AimlessRaven> backbox: you play lol in ubuntu ?
[14:44] <backbox> yes
[14:44] <backbox> whyM
[14:44] <backbox> ?
[14:44] <AimlessRaven> backbox:  do you have problem with fps ?
[14:44] <backbox> yes
[14:44] <AimlessRaven> me 2
[14:44] <backbox> 60fps
[14:44] <backbox> lol
[14:44] <AimlessRaven> 60 is good in battle
[14:44] <AimlessRaven> i have 30
[14:44] <backbox> but
[14:45] <AimlessRaven> in battles :D
[14:45] <backbox> 30 in teamfight
[14:45] <AimlessRaven> backbox:  im same :(
[14:45] <backbox> which regionM
[14:45] <AimlessRaven> nordic east
[14:45] <backbox> euw?
[14:45] <AimlessRaven> eune
[14:45] <backbox> ah
[14:46] <crazyadm> installation stage, how to adjust each partition space, i need /boot at sda1 sda2 as vg, vg-root and vg-swap
[14:46] <crazyadm> how do i do that
[14:46] <AimlessRaven> backbox:  what version of nvidia drivers you use ?
[14:46] <backbox> Intel*
[14:46] <backbox> not nvidia
[14:46] <AimlessRaven> backbox:  so you dont have graphic card?
[14:46] <backbox> lol
[14:47] <AimlessRaven> you use onboard video
[14:47] <AimlessRaven> ?
[14:47] <backbox> what's ur config?
[14:47] <crazyadm> it doesn't let me do it
[14:47] <AimlessRaven> i go to my fr to play and write you there if your here
[14:49] <Southern_Gentlem> crazyadm, /boot cannot be in a vg
[14:50] <Exterminador> brb
[14:50] <crazyadm> please watch carefully
 installation stage, how to adjust each partition space, i need /boot at sda1 sda2 as vg, vg-root and vg-swap
[14:50] <crazyadm> i said /boot at /dev/sda1
[14:50] <crazyadm> vg as /dev/sda2
[14:50] <akik> crazyadm: so what's the problem?
[14:51] <crazyadm> i need to adjust it
[14:51] <akik> crazyadm: delete it and start again?
[14:51] <crazyadm> now it gives me 4g swap
[14:51] <crazyadm> i need to make it 1.5g
[14:51] <crazyadm> and 300MB /boot
[14:51] <crazyadm> the rest for vg-root
[14:52] <avid_fan> crazyadm: "adjust"? I'm with akik, can you simply wipe the drive's existing partition setup?
[14:52] <crazyadm> wipe and how to adjust preset size?
[14:53] <akik> crazyadm: use the something else partitioning option
[14:53] <rory> Is entropy.ubuntu.com down?
[14:53] <crazyadm> how
[14:54] <akik> crazyadm: when ubuntu asks you how you want to partition your disk, there's a something else option
[14:54]  * Zardoz_gnoobot waves hi to all
[14:55] <akik> crazyadm: there you can partition your disk how you want
[14:55] <apb1963>  I'm getting a permission denied error trying to NFS mount an exported file path.  showmount -e shows it mounted... /proc/fs/nfs/exports is empty, although earlier it had entries.  Restarting server, exportfs had no effect on that file, though showmount seems OK I guess.  ubuntu 16.04 server, debian client.
[14:55] <apb1963> ##networking is speechless.
[14:56] <ChetManly> anyway to make a irc client stay connected during a crtl-alt-backspace
[14:56] <ducasse> ChetManly: a gui client? then no. console - tmux.
[14:57] <Zardoz_gnoobot> I was trying to install fedora using a live DVD....the space which it shows is 1.68 mb when I try to install it to my hard disk.....there are no partitions to which my root is set to totally 931 gb is set to root.....can anyone help me out with creating the partition
[14:58] <tomreyn> Zardoz_gnoobot: have you noticed that this is a #ubuntu support channel? ;)
[14:59] <Zardoz_gnoobot> :P I am confused whether I would have to ask this in fedora or ubuntu
[14:59] <uRock> ask in both
[14:59] <Zardoz_gnoobot> as ubuntu is pre-installed I gave preference to ubuntu
[14:59] <Zardoz_gnoobot> lol
[15:00] <tomreyn> you want to install fedora, so ask on their channel
[15:00] <tomreyn> please :)
[15:00] <uRock> Zardoz_gnoobot, is the question about configuring the boot menu?
[15:00] <rory> Is entropy.ubuntu.com down? I can't "telnet entropy.ubuntu.com 443" and this is causing all my EC2 instances to fail to start.
[15:01] <rory> I can't telnet from anywhere, that is, it's not just me messing up a firewall in AWS.
[15:01] <Zardoz_gnoobot> yes uRock
[15:02] <uRock> Zardoz_gnoobot, If you want to keep ubuntu as the first option in grub, then reconfigure it after installing Fedora, Fedora is most likely going to overwrite grub during install.
[15:02] <tomreyn> rory: looks like it is down. package.ubuntu.com is down, too. they seem to be behind the same firewall.
[15:02] <\9> yeah doesn't work for me eithe
[15:02] <\9> r
[15:03] <Zardoz_gnoobot> ok.....so should I back up all my data
[15:03] <Zardoz_gnoobot> or straightaway install
[15:04] <tomreyn> rory: /join #canonical-sysadmin
[15:04] <uRock> Zardoz_gnoobot, It is always a good idea to back up pertinent data before doing anything that involves partitioning.
[15:04] <Zardoz_gnoobot> ohh ok
[15:05] <Zardoz_gnoobot> thanks a lot
[15:05] <DArqueBishop> More to the point, the answer to "should I back up all my data?" is always YES, unless of course the data is expendable.
[15:05] <uRock> no problem
[15:05] <uRock> Once installed, you can get help with configuring grub on either channel, though it is best to ask in the channel representing the OS you are using while doing the configuration.
[15:06] <uRock> DArqueBishop, truth
[15:09] <L-Chymera> Hi guys, who builds all the binaries for apt? Is each version of each software only built once on one machine and copied from there, or could it be that people in different places or at different times get binaries for the same version of the same software but compiled on different machines or at different times?
[15:10] <ikonia> L-Chymera: it's a build infrastructure
[15:11] <BluesKaj> L-Chymera:  you can get a quick answer in #ubuntu-devel
[15:11] <ikonia> no he can't
[15:11] <ikonia> ubuntu-devel is for the core development
[15:12] <BluesKaj> well they would surely know
[15:13] <L-Chymera> ikonia: so, can you tell me more about that? how does this process work?
[15:13] <ppf> L-Chymera: there's a cloud running package jobs
[15:14] <L-Chymera> ppf: and it only packages one version of one software once?
[15:14] <ppf> well, everytime someone tells it to
[15:15] <ppf> for every version and every software
[15:15] <Anticom> Hi all. I'm using cmp to compare an image from my build dir to the copy i just wrote to SD card. However i keep getting 'cmp: EOF on <path>' is there any way cmp can ignore this?
[15:15] <ppf> that's how build/package/deploy infrastructures work
[15:15] <L-Chymera> or if I install e.g. amarok-2.8.0 today and a friend of mine from australia installed it 3 months ago, those files might actually have been compiled at different times? (and may not be bit-identical)?
[15:16] <ppf> theoretically yes
[15:16] <L-Chymera> ppf: but doesn't apt check for a checksum? or is it possible that the cloud also updates that checksum?
[15:16] <ppf> but rebuilds usually are rare (i can only imagine the cause being compiler or pacakge tool fixes/updates)
[15:17] <ppf> of course it updates the checksums
[15:17] <skinux> Is there a way I can download fresh copies of Apache configs for version 16.10?
[15:17] <skinux> Or 16.04 I mean
[15:18] <ikonia> L-Chymera: I suggest you read how deb packages are built and have deb repos are managed
[15:18] <ikonia> L-Chymera: that will answer most of the questions you are asking and will ask
[15:18] <ppf> skinux: reinstall it with -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confmiss"
[15:18] <ppf> and for the future i recommend some bookkeeping, e.g. etckeeper
[15:20] <teknomega> hi all
[15:20] <teknomega> where does ubuntu 16.04 autostart syndaemon ?
[15:20] <idoko> how can i force the wifi hotspot option on ubuntu to be wpa
[15:20] <idoko> instead of wep
[15:21] <teknomega> i can't find where it does this by itself.. i need to change those options
[15:21] <ppf> teknomega: with systemd i presume
[15:21] <teknomega> ppf, syndaemon is an app
[15:21] <teknomega> ppf, for trackpad disable durring typing
[15:23] <msev--> (msev--) would like to install ubuntu gnome alongside Win7 https://imgur.com/rKjWma3 on the 2tb disk. Can someone guide me please
[15:23] <L-Chymera> ikonia: ppf: thanks :)
[15:23] <ppf> msev--: please google that, there's a truckload of guides on this out there
[15:24] <ppf> teknomega: don't know it, but the "daemon" part sounds suspicioulsy like a daemon
[15:25] <msev--> Cmon ppf im worried that im gonna delete everything :)
[15:25] <teknomega> ppf, it is a daemon that runs for X only...
[15:25] <ppf> msev--: so will be most of the guides
[15:26] <ppf> msev--: also please back up your data
[15:27]  * Exterminador is testing a ame!
[15:30] <rexwin_> !addppa
[15:32] <blz> Hello, how can I redirect /dev/null to stdin AND redirect stdout/err to /dev/null in a single command?  I know how to do them individually (some_cmd < /dev/null and some_cmd &>/dev/null, respectively) but how do I do *both* ?
[15:32] <blz> This is in bash, of course
[15:33] <EriC^^> blz: have you tried somecmd </dev/null &> /dev/null
[15:33] <blz> EriC^^, I have not, but if it really is that simple, I might just hug you
[15:33] <rightonyourtail> hi all. Using the i3 wm I can't get pidgin to show up as a tray icon. In unity I noticed that it appears in the top grouped with other messengers. Is that a particular utility like network manager that might have an i3 applet?
[15:33] <EriC^^> :D
[15:34]  * blz hugs EriC^^ 
[15:34] <EriC^^> :D
[15:40] <ducasse> rightonyourtail: ypu might need to use the tray_output option in the bar {} section of your config. see the i3 userguide.
[15:45] <rightonyourtail> I have tray_output set to primary and primary is set to my screen. Indeed hexchat and other appear in the tray as icons.
[15:45] <rightonyourtail> It's just pidgin that won't.
[15:46] <ducasse> rightonyourtail: if you get other tray icons that sounds like a problem with pidgin settings.
[15:48] <darkdrgn2k> hi
[15:48] <darkdrgn2k> is there an equivelent to "windows explorer" in ubuntu , somethign i can just type in UNC paths into?
[15:54] <repozitor> i have many service in my server, mail, file, web, …
[15:55] <repozitor> is there exist any open and free project to get proper backup from those service?
[15:55] <ikonia> you mean free storage ?
[15:55] <ikonia> or free software to help you do it
[15:55] <uRock> darkdrgn2k, can't you do that in nautilus by clicking Connect to Server?
[15:56] <repozitor> ikonia, no, i mean web based app to do that.
[15:56] <darkdrgn2k> butlike even getting a list of shares would be nice
[15:56] <ikonia> repozitor: tar will work for most situations
[15:57] <uRock> darkdrgn2k, I type in "smb://IPAddress"
[15:57] <darkdrgn2k> type in where?
[15:57] <repozitor> ikonia, i think tar can be used for compressing and decompressing. so this tool can't get auto backup from those service
[15:57] <uRock> I've had issues with network shares not showing for quite some time
[15:57] <ikonia> repozitor: what ?
[15:58] <ikonia> repozitor: tar is fine for backups
[15:58] <uRock> darkdrgn2k, click on Connect to Server in Nautilus
[15:58] <repozitor> ikonia, you mean tar with cron jobs?
[15:58] <k1l> darkdrgn2k: the nautilus (file explorer on ubuntu) supports that
[15:59] <k1l> darkdrgn2k: open it, click on "network" in the left list
[15:59] <darkdrgn2k> k1l: doesnt enumarate it all
[15:59] <uRock> darkdrgn2k, you can see me doing that in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB6MTFQhi7o&feature=youtu.be
[15:59] <repozitor> any idea?
[16:00] <k1l> darkdrgn2k: that will list all availbale shares in your network
[16:00] <k1l> darkdrgn2k: you need to be more specific if that is not what you want
[16:00] <darkdrgn2k> k1l: it does not
[16:00] <darkdrgn2k> k1l: i have a netbook runnign windows xp on my network and it doesnt even show the workgroup its in
[16:00] <darkdrgn2k> k1l: but i can smbclient into it no problem
[16:01] <repozitor> ikonia, did you mentioned to this?
[16:01] <repozitor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR
[16:01] <darkdrgn2k> k1l: so in windows id just type in \\192.168.1.52  and it would list all the shares on that machine
[16:01] <k1l> darkdrgn2k: that is an issue of that netbook announcing it to the network
[16:01] <darkdrgn2k> k1l: maybe its selective then and not announding it to non windows machines :-P
[16:01] <uRock> darkdrgn2k, An update seems to have broken that functionality, I haven't been able to search shares on my network for about two weeks.
[16:02] <k1l> darkdrgn2k: you can do that with "connect to server" from the menu
[16:02] <darkdrgn2k> yeh.. but i gatta specify the share
[16:02] <darkdrgn2k> and its just a few more clicks :/
[16:02] <darkdrgn2k> (gawd swiching from windows to nix as a primary os is so hard :-P)
[16:03] <madwizard> darkdrgn2k: The feeling is similar the other way :)
[16:03] <k1l> darkdrgn2k: well, dont use windows protocols here :)
[16:03] <darkdrgn2k> k1l: canot not use them :/ to many things are windows-only
[16:04] <darkdrgn2k> k1l: besides the netwook is just connected to my 3d printer and i really dont want to deal with swiching it to nix...
[16:04] <ioria> darkdrgn2k, you don't need the sharename... just the ip, it'll open in nautilus, then you mount the share
[16:05] <darkdrgn2k> nope..... doesnt work...
[16:05] <darkdrgn2k> just "connecting"
[16:05] <darkdrgn2k> works fine with share name
[16:06] <ioria> darkdrgn2k,  smb://ip
[16:07] <darkdrgn2k> i also cnat figure out why windows looks a little "smoother" almost.. while nix seems a little harsher... i donno how to explain it
[16:08] <k1l> darkdrgn2k: i guess the main issue is that you are used to the windows-way. so everything different feels/looks , well, different.
[16:08] <darkdrgn2k> k1l: naa its somethign differnt i just cant put my finger on it..
[16:08] <ioria> darkdrgn2k,  you can use also cifs-utils and sudo mount -t cifs //remote  /locale
[16:09] <darkdrgn2k> i knw the CLEAR TYPE is differnt between windows and nix)
[16:09] <darkdrgn2k> ioria: i i can even smbclietn in but i was justr tying to figure out the gui way to do it nice and quick..
[16:09] <akik> darkdrgn2k: there's a gui for smb/cifs mount, smb4k
[16:17] <acresearch> hello people, i have a strange question. if i connect through VPN does my IP address changes?
[16:18] <darkdrgn2k> acresearch: kinda...  you usually gain a new ip address
[16:18] <darkdrgn2k> acresearch: but honestly it depends what you mean by your question :-P
[16:19] <acresearch> darkdrgn2k: well, i connect using openconnect in the terminal, when i check my IP before and after on firefox ti remains the same
[16:19] <darkdrgn2k> so you are asking if your EXTERNAL IP changes
[16:19] <darkdrgn2k> the answer is NO.
[16:19] <acresearch> darkdrgn2k: oh,
[16:19] <darkdrgn2k> and Technically no
[16:20] <darkdrgn2k> your "external ip" is the router where all internet traffic is routed to
[16:20] <k1l> acresearch: does firefox use that vpn?
[16:20] <acresearch> k1l: no i connect from terminal
[16:20] <acresearch> i am just trying to understand what is going on
[16:20] <darkdrgn2k> if you want to "changes your exetperanl ip" that is to access the internet from a differnt ip address you need to route your traffic OVER the vpn to the router on the other side
[16:20] <k1l> acresearch: acresearch if you guide all the traffic through the vpn then it should change the ip. to the external one from the vpn.
[16:20] <darkdrgn2k> so your default gateway has to be pointing over the vpn, not back to your router
[16:21] <darkdrgn2k> but becarefull not to redirect yoru VPN server as part of that as you will simply disconnect from the vpn then
[16:22] <acresearch> darkdrgn2k: k1l hmmmm so if i connect through the built in ubuntu VPN that should rout all my traffic though the VPN, but if i connect through terminal where does the vpn traffic goes from?
[16:22] <darkdrgn2k> acresearch: its a question of how the VPN is set up
[16:23] <k1l> acresearch: you are connecting to another vpn server, right? not to your router
[16:23] <darkdrgn2k> acresearch: some vpn software have the ability to re-write your routing table to send traffic over the vpn
[16:23] <acresearch> k1l: yes another server
[16:23] <k1l> acresearch: why dont you use the network-manager to use that vpn?
[16:25] <acresearch> k1l: well, i am registered with a cisco VPN to access services in my university. i could only connect through the terminal (openconnect) i could not get it to work through the built in ubuntu VPN client. then i realised that the IP address does not change, i know i successfully connected beause i can use the campus only e-services. so i just wanted to understand what is going on
[16:25] <acresearch> do i have two connections?
[16:25] <k1l> acresearch: the NM can use the universities cisco setup. ( at least that is what i do).
[16:26] <darkdrgn2k> acresearch: it all depends on how things are setup on the VPN...  even if you tell all traffic to go over the VPN doesnt mean the other side can router that traffic correctly (for example if not setup to NAT the traffic)
[16:26] <acresearch> k1l: i could not get it to work, i remember there was an issue, but i forgot its details, something with the encryption or something. then i tried openconnect and it worked perfectly, the only issue is that openconnect is slow
[16:27] <acresearch> darkdrgn2k: hmmm
[16:27] <k1l> acresearch: there is network-manager-vpnc(-gnome)
[16:27] <acresearch> k1l: i am on unity
[16:28] <darkdrgn2k> unity is layred on top of gnome iirc
[16:28] <k1l> acresearch: unity is based on gnome.
[16:28] <darkdrgn2k> or somethign to do with gonme :-P
[16:28] <acresearch> k1l: darkdrgn2k ok let me try it
[16:29] <crazyadm> is unity gnome?
[16:29] <darkdrgn2k> crazyadm: its a fork of it
[16:29] <k1l> acresearch: if you do it manually you maybe need to tell firefox to use the vpn, too. look into its settings
[16:29] <k1l> crazyadm: yes. its another gnome-shell.
[16:29] <acresearch> k1l: darkdrgn2k network > add > VPN > PPTP > IP > username&password
[16:30] <darkdrgn2k> unity was originaly designed for cromebooks if i rememer correctly
[16:30] <darkdrgn2k> or rather netbook edition of r ubuntu 10
[16:31] <k1l> darkdrgn2k: the unity now doesnt have anything in common with that netbook edition
[16:31] <darkdrgn2k> k1l: yes but as i said "originaly designed for"
[16:31] <acresearch> k1l: darkdrgn2k i get failed connection
[16:31] <darkdrgn2k> but it got forked cause gnome rejected them :-P
[16:32] <acresearch> k1l: darkdrgn2k i tried it before, i think cisco uses some propriety encryption that is not found in ubuntu by default
[16:32] <darkdrgn2k> cisco vpns are black magic.. gimem GRE tunnels over the magical IP SEC transport any say!
[16:32] <darkdrgn2k> day!
[16:32] <k1l> acresearch: do you have network-manager-vpnc-gnome installed?
[16:33] <acresearch> k1l: i don't think so i just installed a fresh ubuntu, if it is not in by default then i do not have it
[16:33] <acresearch> k1l: sudo apt-get?
[16:33] <k1l> acresearch: so this is supposed to not work
[16:33] <k1l> that is why i named you now twice the exact package name you need
[16:34] <acresearch> k1l: ok let me install it,
[16:35] <acresearch> k1l: installed, now i just try again?
[16:35] <Pr0Xyy> who here hacks
[16:35] <darkdrgn2k> Pr0Xyy: all the time....
[16:35] <elisa87> hi have I appended this path correctly? export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/jalal/computer_vision/MCR/v901/runtime/glnxa64:/home/jalal/computer_vision/MCR/v901/bin/glnxa64:/home/jalal/computer_vision/MCR/v901/sys/os/glnxa64:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH"
[16:35] <elisa87> in ~/.bashrc
[16:35] <darkdrgn2k> if yuo mean Hacking in the community way not the criminal one....
[16:36] <acresearch> darkdrgn2k: how do you hack in the community way?
[16:36] <acresearch> k1l: faield connection
[16:37] <darkdrgn2k> acresearch: there are two defenitions of hackers.. the one that holywood portrays (also knows as CRIMINALS) and the way the hacker community comes to gether and actualy IS...
[16:37] <gtxbb> elisa87, by default that var is empty, so appending :$LD_LIBRARY_PATH won't make a difference
[16:37] <k1l> acresearch: do you have your universities certificates?
[16:37] <darkdrgn2k> acresearch: sadly everyone only knmows of the criminal aspect of it..
[16:37] <acresearch> k1l: no
[16:39] <DArqueBishop> Honestly, the whole "hacker/cracker" definition war was lost long ago. It's pretty safe to assume that if someone is asking about hacking, they're talking about what used to be called cracking.
[16:39] <acresearch> DArqueBishop: tell us more about the community
[16:39] <teknomega> hi all
[16:39] <darkdrgn2k> DArqueBishop: well if someone is asking about hacking like "who here hacks" most likly a script kiddie!
[16:40] <teknomega> how does ubuntu 16.04 start syndaemon ?
[16:40] <teknomega> i can't find it anywhere .. but it autostarts it
[16:40] <darkdrgn2k> DArqueBishop: BUT there is a huge community of hackers out there that are not criminals..
[16:41] <BluesKaj> white hat "hacker"
[16:41] <darkdrgn2k> BluesKaj: not even..
[16:41] <darkdrgn2k> BluesKaj: white hat are Pen Test professionals basically
[16:41] <BluesKaj> or looking for a job
[16:42] <teknomega> its all BS
[16:42] <teknomega> every good hacker works for the EPA in the US
[16:42] <acresearch> darkdrgn2k: still i don't get it what does a community hacker does?
[16:42] <k1l> !ot
[16:42] <nacc> teknomega: it appears to come from xserver-xorg-input-synaptics -- i'm guessing eitehr the xorg.conf or the udev rule starts it
[16:42] <teknomega> offically they work for the EPA...
[16:42] <teknomega> nacc, thanks
[16:42] <darkdrgn2k> acresearch: not so much a "community hacker" but rather the hacking community
[16:42] <elisa87> gtxbb:  what is correct way to do this? export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/jalal/computer_vision/MCR/v901/runtime/glnxa64:/home/jalal/computer_vision/MCR/v901/bin/glnxa64:/home/jalal/computer_vision/MCR/v901/sys/os/glnxa64:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH"
[16:42] <DArqueBishop> Sorry, k1l.
[16:43] <darkdrgn2k> acresearch: you know there are hacker confrences and stuff right?
[16:43] <nacc> elisa87: that's 'correct'. what is not working for you?
[16:43] <BluesKaj> the US isn't the center of the universe , don't forget that ;-)
[16:43] <acresearch> darkdrgn2k: whaaaat? what do they talk about?
[16:43] <nacc> darkdrgn2k: acresearch: the !ot blurb was directed at you, as well
[16:43] <elisa87> I didn't say it is not working I am double checking nacc
[16:43] <gtxbb> elisa87, you can use that, but I am out of the question in knowing if that actually fixes anything you're trying to fix
[16:43] <darkdrgn2k> acresearch: last one just passed in new york in july
[16:43] <acresearch> darkdrgn2k: wow
[16:44] <nacc> elisa87: yes, you gave no context, however, so given this is the support channel...
[16:44] <amagora> Hello I am needing some support with my GUI
[16:44] <darkdrgn2k> there is even a magazine out there sold in allot of stores (like chapters/indego and stuff) called 2600
[16:44] <amagora> I recently tried the shortcut Ctrl+alt+S which does shaders control roll up
[16:45] <k1l> darkdrgn2k: please put the chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic to keep this channel clear for support
[16:45] <amagora> how ever it bugged my alt tab command between windows
[16:45] <teknomega> nacc, i couldn't find anything referencing syndaemon in those locations
[16:46] <nacc> teknomega: either /lib/udev/rules.d/66-xorg-synaptics-quirks.rules or /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf or /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/51-synaptics-quirks.conf ?
[16:46] <darkdrgn2k> k1l: sorry im done
[16:46] <amagora> When ever i switch between windows now it brings up the window I want but does not make it the active window
[16:46] <nacc> teknomega: i'm just guessing based upon the file listing int he package
[16:46] <teknomega> nacc, checked all of those and nothing references it
[16:46] <teknomega> nacc, i know it should.. but it doesn't
[16:47] <teknomega> nacc, for some reason a fresh install of starts this --> syndaemon -i 1.0 -t -K -R
[16:47] <teknomega> nacc, i need it to read syndaemon -i 0.4 -t -K
[16:47] <teknomega> no -R or it won't work
[16:48] <amagora> If there is anyone with knowledge of what is going on with my GUI and shortcut commands please let me know.
[16:49] <darkdrgn2k> last thing im gonna say on the subject.. Watch Corry Doctoro talk from hope (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1D7APjmVbk) hes workign with the EFF on a 10 year mission to kill off DRM once and for all!!!!!
[16:51] <nacc> teknomega: hrm, not sure, sorry
[16:55] <Polymorphism> how can I develop C# windows forms apps under linux?
[16:56] <darkdrgn2k> OMG this pr0xxy guy is halarious..
[16:56] <darkdrgn2k> Polymorphism: yeh check out MONO its the .net port for linux
[16:56] <Polymorphism> I looked it up but I wasn
[16:56] <darkdrgn2k> Polymorphism: you can even run windows .net apps using mono (to some extent)
[16:56] <Polymorphism> ok this sounds like exactly what I need
[16:56] <Polymorphism> do you know if there is a live USB with it preloaded
[16:57] <darkdrgn2k> Polymorphism: just remembver that things like the file system is differnt.
[16:57] <darkdrgn2k> Polymorphism: not of the top of my head but you could always install nix on a pen drive  :)
[16:57] <Polymorphism> I'll try that now
[16:59] <darkdrgn2k> Polymorphism: or run it in a virtual machine..
[16:59] <darkdrgn2k> Polymorphism: that way you dont have to "reboot" to get into it
[16:59] <darkdrgn2k> Polymorphism: vmware player i think will do that and its free iirc
[17:04] <Polymorphism> I will try that as well
[17:04] <Polymorphism> well I need it for a school pc
[17:05] <darkdrgn2k> Polymorphism: install it on a home computer then vnc in :-P
[17:08] <Polymorphism> darkdrgn2k, remote desktop?
[17:08] <Polymorphism> I just want a live usb solution with persistence I can bring
[17:08] <Polymorphism> I juwt put win7 on one
[17:08] <Polymorphism> but it is slow as molasses
[17:08] <Polymorphism> (in jan)
[17:08] <darkdrgn2k> Polymorphism: live cd or usb?
[17:08] <Polymorphism> usb
[17:09] <darkdrgn2k> Polymorphism: if you want fast.. get a sold state external drive
[17:09] <Polymorphism> they cripple the school pcs with bloatware slow hardware and deep freeze
[17:09] <Polymorphism> so I want to bring my own OS to the computer
[17:09] <Polymorphism> since we have to do the work there
[17:09] <darkdrgn2k> Polymorphism: if they have ESATA your lafin
[17:09] <Polymorphism> I'll have to check
[17:10] <darkdrgn2k> usb 3.0 is good to
[17:10] <DArqueBishop> Polymorphism: you may want to make sure that's even allowed, first.
[17:10] <darkdrgn2k> usb 2.0 is inherintly slow..
[17:10] <darkdrgn2k> but other otpin is VNC or NX of a server you run at home :)
[17:10] <darkdrgn2k> that way your 100% unrestricted
[17:11] <th0r> most school/business won't allow alternate OS or external access (vnc/nx/etc)
[17:11] <Polymorphism> ??
[17:11] <Polymorphism> it's allowed
[17:11] <Polymorphism> trust me
[17:11] <DArqueBishop> darkdrgn2k: that's assuming that the school firewall will allow that. Given how locked down the PCs are, I wouldn't assume it.
[17:11] <Polymorphism> my issues are technical here
[17:11] <darkdrgn2k> th0r:  yeh but there is always way around that
[17:11] <darkdrgn2k> th0r: SSH runnign on port 53 :-P
[17:11] <darkdrgn2k> + tunneling lOL
[17:11] <darkdrgn2k> works wonders!
[17:11] <Polymorphism> indeed
[17:12] <Polymorphism> but I dont want to run their OS
[17:12] <Polymorphism> I need to boot a live USB
[17:12] <chet> anyone know how to fix mouse wheel scrolling jumping
[17:12] <Polymorphism> SATA I cant assume is an option
[17:12] <gtxbb> Polymorphism, not sure what you're after here, but your pc's over there would be "locked" into not booting anything from usb
[17:12] <chet> in virtualbox
[17:12] <Polymorphism> that's not true
[17:12] <Polymorphism> I can boot live usb on all of them
[17:12] <Polymorphism> in all the rooms
[17:12] <Polymorphism> and have been for over a year
[17:12] <gtxbb> then it's probably sessioning over pxe/nfs networking
[17:12] <darkdrgn2k> i had an openvpn server running on port udp 53 that i tunnled from my laptop .. plp coudltn understand how i had unrestricted access to everyting and they didnt :)
[17:12] <nacc> Polymorphism: we don't know what is true or not in your environment. What is your actual issue?
[17:13] <DArqueBishop> darkdrgn2k: there may be technical ways around it, but like the name says, it's only "technical". Most companies I know of look VERY dimly at people trying to get around their restrictions.
[17:13] <Polymorphism> nacc, I can only get the work done in the classroom, the pcs are too slow to do it
[17:13] <DArqueBishop> (As well hey should. Their equipment, their connection, their rules.)
[17:13] <Polymorphism> darkdrgn2k,
[17:13] <Polymorphism> DArqueBishop,
[17:13] <darkdrgn2k> DArqueBishop: yes but thats the diff between companies and schools
[17:13] <Polymorphism> readjust mindset
[17:13] <Polymorphism> your world, your rules
[17:13] <darkdrgn2k> DArqueBishop: ppl at "work" wont be trying to hack their own servers
[17:13] <nacc> Polymorphism: please stay ontopic
[17:13] <Polymorphism> got it
[17:13] <nacc> darkdrgn2k: you too, again.
[17:13] <darkdrgn2k> DArqueBishop: ppl at "school" will do nothing BUT hack their server
[17:14] <nacc> Polymorphism: so the pcs are slow, you're booting a live usb?
[17:14] <chet> anyone know how to fix my mouse wheel scroll from jumping all over the place on web page
[17:14] <nacc> Polymorphism: not sure what the problem is, if the pcs are just slow? please give a bit more detail
[17:14] <DArqueBishop> Oh, to be young and naive.
[17:14] <Polymorphism> they are slow because of the OS
[17:14] <Polymorphism> and deep freeze, etc
[17:14] <Polymorphism> on my live linux they are fast
[17:14] <Polymorphism> but now we aren't writing portable code
[17:14] <nacc> Polymorphism: ok -- so, again, what is the problem?
[17:15] <chet> actually just keeps going to the top of the page and randomly focusing windows I have open
[17:15] <Polymorphism> its windows forms in c#
[17:15] <Polymorphism> naac if you read I said that many times
[17:15] <nacc> Polymorphism: i just reconnected, so please just restarte
[17:15] <nacc> *restate
[17:15] <darkdrgn2k> nacc: the issue was actualy C# in nix.... which grew to a live cd... which i suggested a USB live cd and install mono on it
[17:16] <Polymorphism> need to develop and test windows forms C# applicastions using linux live USB
[17:16] <darkdrgn2k> live usb instead of a live cs
[17:16] <Polymorphism> just something to get me through this class
[17:16] <darkdrgn2k> but not live. actually install the os on the stick :-P
[17:16] <Polymorphism> we are talking 3 minutes to open firefox
[17:16] <Polymorphism> 4-5 minutes to boot
[17:16] <nacc> Polymorphism: mono is linux's closest thing to c# support, as darkdrgn2k said (and in my understanding)
[17:16] <Polymorphism> up to 6 minutes until VS is ready to go
[17:16] <Polymorphism> can I debug with that though?
[17:17] <akik> darkdrgn2k: you can install ubuntu on the stick
[17:17] <Polymorphism> run the app, test the buttons, etc
[17:17] <darkdrgn2k> macc: mono IS linux support for c#,, not the clostes thing iirc microsoft helps with its decelopment.. or they used to
[17:17] <nacc> Polymorphism: this is all complaining. Let's stick to the topic and discussion of 'develop and test windows C# forms'
[17:17] <Polymorphism> and then have it run on a windows machine
[17:17] <nacc> darkdrgn2k: fair enough, thanks for the clarification :)
[17:17] <Polymorphism> naac, you confuse enumation of the issues for complaining
[17:17] <Polymorphism> be careful with that
[17:17] <chet> Polymorphism: oh my, I cannot stand two second lag from firefox extensions...
[17:17] <nacc> Polymorphism: you were still discussing how slow windows is to boot, afaict
[17:17] <darkdrgn2k> actualy i think the issue is resolved
[17:17] <darkdrgn2k> so NEXT: )
[17:18] <Polymorphism> chet,
[17:18] <Polymorphism> 3 minutes to open firefox
[17:18] <Polymorphism> I remember that, from HS and ie
[17:18] <Polymorphism> this is 2016
[17:18] <Polymorphism> not acceptable
[17:18] <nacc> Polymorphism: 3 minutes to open firefox under Ubuntu?
[17:18] <Polymorphism> under windows 10 on the school machines
[17:18] <darkdrgn2k> nacc: hes still complaining about the stock os on the machine
[17:19] <nacc> Polymorphism: we don't care about windows. Please stick to *Ubuntu* support issues.
[17:19] <Polymorphism> ubuntu is fast which is why I'd like to switch
[17:19] <darkdrgn2k> Polymorphism: i suggest you just let it lie before you uspet these ppl
[17:19] <ppf> the question i had last night is still unanswered
[17:19] <nacc> ppf: what was the question?
[17:19] <darkdrgn2k> ppf: unfortunatly we are not telepathic :-P
[17:19] <Polymorphism> darkdrgn2k, that doesnt concern me
[17:19] <Polymorphism> maga
[17:19] <ppf> how can i convert the rasterized parts of a pdf to tif/ppm/png without any loss of quality
[17:19] <ppf> (yeah, yeah, i'm a slow typer)
[17:19] <Polymorphism> thanks for the help darkdrgn2k , the rest of you diaf
[17:20] <darkdrgn2k> ppf: extract the data right from the pdf..
[17:20] <chet> I have preload on a ssd and its still to long
[17:20] <nicomachus> Polymorphism: stop.
[17:20] <darkdrgn2k> ppf: PDF is nothign more then a container for things..
[17:20] <ppf> i know
[17:20] <ppf> what's the proper tool for that
[17:20] <darkdrgn2k> ppf: first google result -> <ppf>
[17:21] <darkdrgn2k> http://askubuntu.com/questions/150100/extracting-embedded-images-from-a-pdf
[17:21] <nacc> ppf: i think you can use imagemagick's 'convert' for this, no?
[17:21] <nacc> or as darkdrgn2k says, you can extract directly, probably
[17:21] <darkdrgn2k> nacc: imagemagic will render the pdf.. he wants to extract the data without re-rendering
[17:21] <nacc> darkdrgn2k: oh i see
[17:22] <ppf> darkdrgn2k: thanks!
[17:22] <ppf> nacc: that's what wasn't good enough for me
[17:22] <ppf> :)
[17:22]  * darkdrgn2k presses the "that was easy" staples button
[17:22] <ppf> darkdrgn2k: i reformulated the question for you, the way it was in my head before wasn't any good on google
[17:23] <EnemyViolent> Can I ask a dumb question?
[17:23] <ppf> last night i posed it slightly differently, and a guy got hung up on my formulation because "you can't convert from pdf without losing quality"
[17:23] <ppf> :)
[17:24] <nicomachus> EnemyViolent: those are usually the only ones I can answer, so please feel free
[17:24] <EnemyViolent> If I've got a relatively modern PC (i5 2500K, 8 GB RAM, GTX 970), will I see performance benefits from using, say, Lubuntu instead of Ubuntu GNOME?
[17:25] <nicomachus> very slight.
[17:25] <ppf> depends on how good you are at spotting them :)
[17:25] <ppf> there'll be little difference
[17:25] <k1l> EnemyViolent: that should be fast on both desktops.
[17:25] <BluesKaj> EnemyViolent:  not really with an i5
[17:26] <EnemyViolent> Hmmm. OK.
[17:32] <EnemyViolent> I think I like XFCE, though.
[17:33] <k1l> EnemyViolent: with that hardware you can choose the desktop thats look you like the most.
[17:33] <EnemyViolent> In that case it's between GNOME and XFCE...
[17:34] <EnemyViolent> XFCE is the "classic" one I like the best, and GNOME the "modern" one I like the best.
[17:35] <k1l> EnemyViolent: its your choice :)  you can install both and switch on the login screen
[17:36] <darkdrgn2k> meh i dont like gnome3.... thas why i went cinnamon :-P
[17:36] <ppf> EnemyViolent: there's also a third class: Tiling WMs
[17:37] <ppf> if you're nasty :)
[17:37] <darkdrgn2k> or just run ratpoison and xterm
[17:37] <darkdrgn2k> wait do you still need a WM for focus?
[17:40] <EnemyViolent> I think I'm going Xubuntu. Seems like I'll be able to skin it how I want it.
[17:42] <Tech> Hi there, is GParted the only tool that will allow me to resize a dd created HDD img?  Thanks  :)
[17:43] <Tech> It's NTFS formatted
[17:43] <prussian> try the qemu disk tool
[17:43] <prussian> instead
[17:43] <prussian> if its just a raw img
[17:44] <Tech> Is that a terminal tool or does it have a gui?
[17:44] <prussian> of you need to resize NTFS, just remount it and resize that way
[17:44] <prussian> terminal
[17:45] <JosephFerano> is there a good VM for Ubuntu that provides seemless win10 experience? like being able to manipulate individual win programs with i3?
[17:46] <Tech> prussian: I'm not very well versed in Terminal cmds. Plus, it took 5 hrs to create this 500 GB img file of my hdd.
[17:46] <darkdrgn2k> JosephFerano: vmware but i think they got rid of UNITY
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> JosephFerano  try virtualbox or vmware player (latter is 3r party, not in the repos)
[17:46] <thor32> nabend
[17:46] <JosephFerano> got rid of Unity? You mean the DE?
[17:46] <Tech> JosephFerano: Virtualbox is the best
[17:46] <prussian> OK so...you have a disk image created with did that's a dump of a disk?
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> JosephFerano  no, Unity in vmware player is seemless mode
[17:46] <darkdrgn2k> no unity mode in vmware
[17:47] <JosephFerano> ah
[17:47] <darkdrgn2k> where the individual windows in the VMWARE show on your desktop
[17:47] <JosephFerano> I see
[17:47] <darkdrgn2k> and the guests desktop disapears
[17:47] <JosephFerano> Yeah, I would love that
[17:47] <darkdrgn2k> still there for iwndows
[17:47] <darkdrgn2k> but they decided no one was using it in linux so as of vmware workstation 11 its gone
[17:47] <JosephFerano> does VB have a seemless mode?
[17:48] <darkdrgn2k> kinda but nto really
[17:48] <Tech> yes it does
[17:48] <darkdrgn2k> Tech: dont the apps have to be maximized to work thoguh?
[17:48] <Tech> no
[17:48] <darkdrgn2k> hmm i may have to give that a try then :-P
[17:48] <k1l> JosephFerano: seemless mode with mouse? yes
[17:48] <Tech> :)
[17:48] <JosephFerano> ok, well that's one option then
[17:48] <k1l> JosephFerano: you just need guest additions installed on the guest
[17:48] <darkdrgn2k> does virtual box work with macos?
[17:49] <Tech> I've got 4 machines configured in Virtualbox :)
[17:49] <Tech> prussian: What do you mean "a dump of a disk"?
[17:50] <R4sk0ln1k0v> hey
[17:52] <Tech> prussian: TBH I'm about ready to scrap this image, take the 2.5 inch hdd out of the laptop and clone it to vbox using disk2hd, avoiding the unnecessary and increasingly time-consuming hassle of Ubuntu's Terminal cli.
[17:52] <Tech> *CLI
[17:53] <Tech> *disk2vhd
[17:53] <gtxbb> Tech, disk2hd is a windows app?
[17:53] <gtxbb> Tech, you can even use dd to clone a disk
[17:53] <Tech> yes
[17:53] <Tech> no
[17:54] <gtxbb> Tech, (vboxmanage can convert raw dd to .vdi)
[17:55] <Tech> yeah but I don't have 500 GB + another 500 GB free to do that.....especially when only about 80 GB is used on that hdd.
[17:55] <gtxbb> Tech, use conv=sparse with dd, that'll make a dd image of 80 gb..
[17:55] <Tech> I was attempting to resize the img file but it seems more trouble than it's worth, especially given I have to calculate the offset, etc
[17:56] <newm> hello
[17:56] <Tech> gtxbb: ooooo...that sounds much better!
[17:56] <Tech> one sec
[17:56] <gtxbb> Tech, wait
[17:56] <gtxbb> Tech, i'm not following with your procedure..
[17:57] <gtxbb> Tech, i thought you were doing a backup
[17:57] <gtxbb> Tech, looks like you're trying to do something else... so i guess only you know what you're after
[17:57] <Tech> one sec
[17:57] <Tech> :)
[17:57] <gtxbb> good luck (i have no idea what he's doing)
[17:57]  * gtxbb hides
[17:58] <Tech> This is the command I used to create the raw disk img:  dd if=/dev/sda of="/media/ubuntu/SP Blue 1 TB/rawdisk.img" bs=16M
[17:58] <Tech> gtxbb: Don't hide  :)
[17:58]  * Tech runs after gtxbb 
[17:58] <bekks> And whats the proboem now?
[18:00] <Tech> bekks: if you're asking me, it's how do I append gtxbb 's conv=sparse cmd to the above cmd?
[18:00] <bekks> "add it at the end of the command" aka "append".
[18:00] <Bashing-om> Tech: "SP Blue 1 TB/: is not a linux syntax. Spaces are delimiters . If ya use that name will have to escape the spaces for the sytem to see it as one name .
[18:00] <bekks> Bashing-om: He is using "" around the entire filename.
[18:00] <bekks> No need for escaping.
[18:00] <BluesKaj>  no need to dd the whole drive/partition , resize the sourcer partition to a GB larger then the data , dd it to the target then expand it to a usable size afterwards Tech, 16Mbs is abit large bs=4M is best
[18:01] <bekks> Bashing-om: bs can be the cache size of the disk, which will avoid unnecessary I/O then.
[18:01] <bekks> BluesKaj: ^
[18:01] <Tech> well #virtualbox guys don't know as much you do BluesKaj ;)
[18:01] <Bashing-om> bekks: Tech : K .. me and my tunnel vision .
[18:01] <bekks> Tech: At that point (regarding blocksize) he is wrong :P
[18:03] <BluesKaj> ok nm , Ill stay out , my mistake ...I've never tried to dd from VM image
[18:04] <Tech> lol
[18:04] <newm> is ubuntu mate supported on this channel?
[18:05] <k1l> newm: yes
[18:05] <Tech> too many people helping....but I appreciate the enthusiasm :-)
[18:05] <bekks> Tech: So after you created the disk image yesterday - whats the problem today?
[18:06] <Tech> bekks: I didn't zero before creating the img
[18:06] <Tech> *zero out the free space
[18:07] <bekks> Tech: So do it and create a new image.
[18:07] <bekks> Tech: adding various options to dd will not magically zero it out.
[18:07] <Tech> I don't know how to append that to this cmd line: dd if=/dev/sda of="/media/ubuntu/SP Blue 1 TB/rawdisk.img" bs=16M
[18:07] <bekks> Tech: Do not add any options. Zero out free space, create a new image.
[18:08] <Tech> what options?
[18:08] <bekks> Tech: "conv ..."
[18:08] <bekks> Tech: Adding those will not help you at all.
[18:08] <gtxbb> Tech, append what?  "conv=sparse" ?  you just add that to the end of the dd line
[18:08] <JeanLuc_> Hi there, I was sent over from #ubuntu-app-devel. I want to build my vala/gtk-application on launchpad as part of a ppa. But I am facing a strange issue: First a vapi-file is being created during the build, then right after the build fails complaining it can't find the exact same file.
[18:08] <gtxbb> Tech, but it may be well beyond 80gb --- because there's "orphaned" data that are non-zero value bytes.
[18:08] <JeanLuc_> error: /«BUILDDIR»/feedreader-2.0.0~r1264+pkg25~ubuntu16.10.1//«BUILDDIR»/feedreader-2.0.0~r1264+pkg25~ubuntu16.10.1/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/FeedReaderCommon.vapi not found
[18:09] <JeanLuc_> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/286704177/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.feedreader_2.0.0~r1264+pkg25~ubuntu16.10.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[18:09] <Tech> ugh...
[18:09] <gtxbb> Tech, dd dumps everything... however "sparse" will crunch all the zero-byte segments -- shortening the actual size on a sparse filesysetm
[18:09] <gtxbb> Tech, that's just a last bit I can give as advice
[18:09] <Tech> this bs now has me confused gtxbb and bekks
[18:10] <gtxbb> (I use e2image which is better than dd for backing up ext2/3/4,... but you're working with "ntfs" -- and a whole disk image)
[18:10] <bekks> Tech: set bs=16M, done.
[18:10] <nacc> JeanLuc_: you may want to ask in #launchpad
[18:10] <Tech> okaaaaaaaay so.....
[18:10] <JeanLuc_> :P and #launchpad will send me over to the next channel
[18:10] <gtxbb> Tech, use your Windows tools to backup your Windows system.
[18:11] <Tech> FINAL CMD: dd if=/dev/sda of="/media/ubuntu/SP Blue 1 TB/rawdisk.img" bs=16M conv=sparse
[18:11] <gtxbb> Tech, as you're not acquainted with the cli terminal (which you mention numerous times)
[18:11] <nacc> JeanLuc_: maybe, but it's not really an ubuntu support question :)
[18:11] <segard> fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffsddddddddddddd.//11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> that looks like cat-language
[18:12] <bekks> Tech: How often will you ask that again?
[18:12] <bekks> Tech: We spent hours yesterday already.
[18:12] <nacc> JeanLuc_: fwiw, the issue seems to be sort of double-nested path "/«BUILDDIR»/feedreader-2.0.0~r1264+pkg25~ubuntu16.10.1//«BUILDDIR»/feedreader-2.0.0~r1264+pkg25~ubuntu16.10.1/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/FeedReaderCommon.vapi"
[18:12] <wimpog> 14 to 16 upgrade is stalled out at `Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-30-generic`. Help
[18:13] <Tech> I'm not familar with Terminal bekks ....I'm sorry!
[18:13] <k1l> wimpog: whate versions exactly? there are 2 ubuntu releases each year.
[18:13] <bekks> Tech: The command for creating the image is the same as yesterday.
[18:13] <wimpog> k1l: Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS to 16.04.1 LTS upgrade via `do-release-upgrade`
[18:14] <k1l> wimpog: and that brought you an error? and was canceled?
[18:14] <Tech> Yes I just posted the successful cmd with the appending sparse cmd added to where I THINK it should be but I'm not entirely sure so I'm asking AGAIN... bekks
[18:14] <atronic> hiiii
[18:14] <wimpog> k1l: affirmative! Just stalled, no progress
[18:15] <k1l> wimpog: for how long?
[18:15] <atronic> hi
[18:15] <k1l> wimpog: some steps can take some time depending on the hardware
[18:15] <Salah> hi i have problem
[18:15] <Salah> who help me plz
[18:15] <wimpog> k1l: ~1hr
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> Salah  start with a question
[18:15] <wimpog> k1l: this is virtual machine
[18:16] <wimpog> k1l: should I leave it longer
[18:16] <Salah> @MonkeyDust how to install intell graphic driver
[18:16] <k1l> wimpog: uh, 1hour is long enough. but virtual machines can have own issues
[18:16] <k1l> Salah: you dont need to install a driver since intel ships the driver in the linux kernel
[18:17] <Salah> no sir i cant play games and i check driver
[18:17] <Salah> result unknown graphic
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> Salah  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[18:18] <Salah> i cant install graphics driver
[18:18] <wimpog> k1l: anything else I could try?
[18:18] <nacc> Salah: for intel, there is no graphics driver to 'install'. What game are you trying to play that produces that message?
[18:19] <Salah> i play conquer online
[18:19] <pineapplelover> hello ubuntu fails downloading extra data files requested by flashplugin-installer package... is there a way to fix this?
[18:21] <nacc> Salah: how are you playing it? wine?
[18:21] <k1l> wimpog: is /boot full?
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> pineapplelover  try sudo apt-get -f install
[18:21] <Salah> i have wine but the game playing very slowly
[18:21] <pineapplelover> okay
[18:21] <wimpog> k1l: /dev/sda1       511M  3.4M  508M   1% /boot/efi
[18:21] <k1l> Salah: what game, what hardware?
[18:22] <nacc> wimpog: that's the efi partition, not /boot itself (fyi)
[18:22] <k1l> wimpog: no, not /boot/efi. /boot. but most times its just part of the /
[18:22] <Salah> game = conquer online  hardware = intell
[18:22] <wimpog> k1l: /dev/sda2        58G   32G   24G  57% /
[18:23] <pineapplelover> MonkeyDust: what about this fix?= http://askubuntu.com/questions/525865/failure-to-download-extra-data-files-flashplugin-installer
[18:23] <Peter1029> Good day how can i make a shell script end after it is finished or if the files the script is suposed to be moving are missing.
[18:23] <nacc> Peter1029: shells scripts end when they are finished. You can always do 'exit <return-code>' if you need to
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> Peter1029  the people in #bash can help you with scripting
[18:24] <nacc> Peter1029: the latter part is called error handling, and you'd want to presumably do some sort of check, and then exit with a non-zero code
[18:24] <Peter1029> what do you mean by return code?
[18:26] <guest-uz4dvw> wos is los
[18:26] <nacc> Peter1029: as MonkeyDust said, it's probably better discussed in #bash, but 0 typically mean success and any non-zero result means some kind of error
[18:27] <SchrodingersScat> nacc: he's there, mission accomplished
[18:27] <nacc> SchrodingersScat: thanks
[18:28] <Peter1029> Thanks i just my question to bash i m leaving this channel.
[18:33] <guest-uz4dvw> loka pola mina sola
[18:33] <Tech> What is the cmd to append sudo to a dd conversion?
[18:33] <k1l> Tech: append sudo? you write sudo in front of it
[18:34] <Tech> just literally writing sudo dd if= /dev etc etc?
[18:35] <k1l> Tech: if you want commands to be run with root powers you need to preface them with sudo.
[18:35] <Tech> KillaloT: just sudo?
[18:35] <Tech> oops
[18:36] <k1l> Tech: honestly: you are making it harder than it is. just write sudo dd ....... and the command dd will be run with root power after you put in your users password when asked for it
[18:36] <bekks> Tech: same as yesterday ;)
[18:37] <Tech> got it
[18:38] <Tech> darn it!  now it's not working and nothing has literally changed other than me shutting the computer down
[18:38] <bekks> Tech: What is not working?
[18:38] <AciD`> hey, what's up with the hashsum being wrong for E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/universe/binary-amd64/by-hash/SHA256/fca8476f315a46d2067bccf64e3a05274bdbf1097225d7a47ba45│HOME_URL="http://neon.kde.org/" d9888846a3a
[18:38] <AciD`> ?
[18:39] <k1l> Tech: what exact command? what error? use paste.ubuntu.com for several lines output
[18:39] <AciD`> whoops, HOME_URL="http://neon.kde.org/" was on the other terminal side by side, discard that :)
[18:40] <k1l> AciD`: maybe the mirror is beeing updated and there is a different package on the mirror than on the updated list
[18:40] <k1l> AciD`: either wait or clear the packagelist
[18:40] <AciD`> is it happening to you too k1l?
[18:40] <k1l> AciD`: it happens sometimes.
[18:40] <AciD`> what do you mean by 'clearing the packagelist'?
[18:41] <k1l> sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[18:41] <AciD`> what does that do exactly?
[18:41] <AciD`> I have 102 files in there :x
[18:41] <k1l> it removes the package lists you got on your system. the issue you have is a missmatch of the versions on the server and on your system,.
[18:42] <elias_a> k1l: Mismatch. Not missmatch.
[18:42] <Tech> kil: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23234640/
[18:42] <Tech> bekks:
[18:43] <k1l> Tech: its pretty clear: there s no such target
[18:43] <Tech> there was yesterday...lol
[18:43] <Tech> Do I need to double check the external drive in GParted?
[18:43] <k1l> Tech: so you didnt mount that disk today. or it is named differently
[18:43] <jpsantos> hi guys, question about systemd.  Is there a place I can configure systemd in ubuntu to run a startup script before any of the kernel drivers are loaded.  I need to load a stub driver onto two identical nvidia cards, disconnect one of the cards before the system attempts to load the nvidia driver so the host machine will still have a video card to use.  Does anyone know where this config is?
[18:44] <Tech> kil: yes
[18:46] <Tech> now I'm not sure unless it doesn't like my rawdisk2.img name?
[18:47] <k1l> its not that it doenst like the name. it doesnt find it at all
[18:47] <Tech> I changed the img name from yesterday since I didn't want to delete the original rawdisk.img
[18:48] <Tech> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23234675/
[18:49] <Tech> oops
[18:50] <Tech> well anyway...I'm not sure why isn't finding the external drive path
[18:50] <bekks> Tech: pastebin "mount" please.
[18:51] <Tech> what do you mean?
[18:51] <bekks> Tech: type the command "mount", pastebin the outcome.
[18:51] <k1l> Tech: the command and output dont match
[18:52] <Tech> bekks: that unfortunately doesn't work on a machine without an internet connection....I have to manually type it unfortunately.
[18:52] <bekks> Tech: USe a usb stick or a pencil then.
[18:52] <Pici> or take a picture
[18:52] <Tech> Here it is corrected: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23234681/
[18:53] <k1l> Tech: ok, again: the /media/ubuntu/SP Blue 1 TB/rawdisk2.img  doesnt exist. that is the issue
[18:54] <k1l> Tech: either its not mounted or its a typo or something else. you can use the tab-key to use auto-completion to make sure its not a typo.
[18:54] <Tech> I'll snap a pic, one sec
[18:57] <bp_> Guys i need an help, where can i debug the desktop manager?
[18:58] <bp_> heeeyyy maaan
[18:58] <bp_> someone is listening?
[18:59] <Tech> kil: bekks http://imgur.com/a/LwTon
[18:59] <Bashing-om> bp_: lightdm ? >> Logging to /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log .
[18:59] <nacc> !patience | bp_
[19:00] <bekks> Tech: where is the output of "mount" as requested?
[19:00] <Tech> bekks: what do you mean?
[19:00] <ioria> Tech, a space insed the quotes ?
[19:00] <k1l> Tech: no space in front of /media .....
[19:00] <ioria> *inside
[19:01] <nacc> that looks all sorts of weird ... why not use escapes on the spaces, or tab-complete it
[19:01] <Tech> thanks kil...that's working....LOL
[19:01] <Tech> geeez...
[19:01] <bp_> @bashing-om: thanks, but i am using gdm (gnome desktop manager) . @nacc: i'm sorry, i'm a new user in IRC
[19:02] <nacc> bp_: @ doesn't do anything on irc, please just use the nick you're addressing, tab-complete to help you out
[19:02] <Tech> ioria: thanks, it's working now :)
[19:03] <ioria> yay | Tech
[19:03] <nacc> bp_: probably the logs are under /var/log/gdm or /var/log/gdm3
[19:03] <Tech> the space in front of /media was the culprit
[19:03] <Bray90820> Anyone there can tell me where BOOTx64.EFI is located?
[19:03] <ioria> yay  Tech
[19:04] <bp_> nacc, thank you very much ! if i want to learn how to improve ubuntu and similar os, can you suggest me a lecture? i can't debug gnome easily
[19:05] <nacc> bp_: are you finding issues? file bugs
[19:06] <nacc> Bray90820: the only similar file i find in apt is /usr/lib/systemd/boot/efi/systemd-bootx64.efi from systemd
[19:07] <k1l> Bray90820: still your tablet?
[19:07] <Bray90820> nacc:  can you check in "/boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu"
[19:07] <Bray90820> k1l: Yes sir
[19:08] <Bray90820> The BOOTx64.EFI is the last thing I am trying before I give up and use nomodeset
[19:08] <k1l> Bray90820: you need a 32bit uefi setup for that
[19:08] <nacc> Bray90820: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234732/
[19:08] <Bray90820> k1l: I actually have it booted with nomodeset
[19:09] <Tech> So will the 'conv=sparse' cmd ensure that I don't end up with another 500GB.img file that takes over 5 hrs to create?  I'm hoping for an img around 100 GB in size since only about 80GB is used when I last checked it in windows.  :)
[19:09] <Bray90820> nacc: can you do an ls -la of that directory for me?
[19:09] <nacc> Bray90820: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234736/
[19:10] <Bray90820> nacc: Thanks
[19:10] <Bray90820> That was actually a lot of help
[19:10] <Tech> bekks: kil: ??
[19:11] <ioria> Tech,  you can check progress (in another terminal win ) with  sudo kill -USR1 $(pgrep ^dd)
[19:12] <nacc> Bray90820: yw
[19:13] <Tech> ioria: I was just wondering if that command will result in a smaller .img file.  Also I keep checking the file size of the mounted external drive so I know it's working, easier than checking in another Terminal I think, at least for me. ;-)
[19:14] <ioria> Tech,  you are cloning the entire /dev/sda ... how big is it ?
[19:14] <Tech> 500 GB
[19:14] <k1l> onto a external usb2.0 hdd?
[19:14] <Tech> yes
[19:15] <ioria> Tech,  a long wait ...
[19:15] <EriC^^> Tech: dd has a nice status=progress argument fyi
[19:15] <nacc> iiuc, doesn't sparse just make dd seek rather than write 0s? so i'm not sure it'll change the effective image size
[19:15] <Tech> no idea where that cmd would go EriC^^ lol
[19:15] <EriC^^> dd if= of= status=progress bs= ..etc
[19:16] <ioria> Tech,  true, the new dd (coreutils) has a feature...
[19:17] <anti-torture> Hello
[19:17] <nicolas__> hello
[19:17] <Tech> ioria: So again, will that sparse command result in a smaller img or am I wasting my time?
[19:17] <ioria> Tech,  not familiar with sparse, sorry
[19:18] <Tech> ioria: apparently no one is so don't beat yourself up over it ;)
[19:18] <ioria> Tech,  ^_^
[19:19] <Linux-Ninja> Anyone found a good client for skype for business under 16.x?
[19:19] <Tech> kil: you seem to have mod powers, am I right? ^_^
[19:19] <nacc> Tech: my understanding based upon the manpage is, i think the file will appear to be 500G in length (as it's a disk copy), but it won't occupy all 500G on-disk
[19:19] <k1l> Tech: yes
[19:20] <Linux-Ninja> I have been playing with Sky for a few days, but the conference/voice feature requires $50 fee
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> Linux-Ninja  yeah, MS is commercial
[19:20] <xangua> Huh wasn't Skype for Linux free as beer?
[19:21] <k1l> not skype business
[19:21] <nacc> i feel like the implications of 'for business' implies non-free
[19:21] <Tech> nacc: sounds to me like it would be considered similar to how a dynamically allocated, resizable vdi or vhd image would behave.  ;-)
[19:21] <nacc> Tech: if i had to guess, probably -- i don't honestly know, though
[19:21] <Linux-Ninja> k1, in my current role they are using this form of communication internally
[19:22] <Tech> nacc: I'm not even sure what to google to find the answer...
[19:22] <Surface> hello guys, can someone help me please? I try to downgrade Libcap-dev, but i fail. Error message is:  Unfulfilled dependencies
[19:23] <Linux-Ninja> MonkeyDust, I really wish there was an alternative under ubuntu...
[19:23] <nacc> Tech: what are you trying to do, exactly?
[19:23] <nacc> Surface: what version of ubuntu, downgrade from what version to what version, and why
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> Surface  don't (try to) downgrade, look for a different solution
[19:24] <Tech> nacc: it's very very long story...ask bekks ...haha..I'll give you the short version
[19:25] <Surface> Monkeydust & nacc: i want to use reaver on ubuntu, and this is the only one soulutin
[19:25] <Tech> nacc: attempting to virtualize a Windows 7 64bit ntfs mbr formatted hdd to work in VirtualBox on a different computer basically. :)
[19:25] <k1l> Surface: ubuntu ships reaver
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> !find reaver
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> !info reaver
[19:26] <nacc> its in universe since 14.04
[19:26] <nacc> Tech: ah ...
[19:26] <Surface> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS running on a Surface pro 4
[19:26] <nacc> Surface: ok, enable universe and reaver is there
[19:27] <Surface> sorry, i use linux a few days (max 10 days) and i dont understand what you mean with "enable universe"
[19:27] <nacc> !components | Surface
[19:27] <ioria> !info reaver | Surface
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> Surface  System Settings > software sources ... enable Universe
[19:28] <Surface> oh, thank you. i will do this now
[19:30] <Surface> i looked at the universe repo and it was already enabled
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> Surface  ok, in a terminal, type    sudo apt update ... then install reaver
[19:31] <Tech> nacc: I've successfully virtualized a dual-boot, originally GPT formatted Window 7 64bit and Windows 10 64bit HDD running on the same computer but haven't tried the latter of virtualizing an OS and moving it to a different system altogether. If I can pull it off, I'll create instructions for everyone.  Btw, up to 50.7 GB on rawdisk2.img creation.  ;)
[19:31] <Surface> ok one moment
[19:35] <abaldygle> How to turn on Universe repo?
[19:35] <Surface> look here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/148638/how-do-i-enable-the-universe-repository
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> abaldygle   System Settings > software sources ... enable Universe
[19:36] <Surface> @Monkeydust: root @ urootSrfce: ~ # apt-get install reaver Reading package lists ... Done Dependency tree. Status information can be read .... finished Try 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies:   libpcap0.8: Damaged: libpcap0.8: i386 but 1.4.0-2 is to be installed (= 1.7.4-2!)   libpcap0.8: i386: Damaged: (! = 1.4.0-2) libpcap0.8 but 1.7.4-2 is to be installed
[19:36] <Surface> i tryed apt-get -f install, but it dont work. yesterday that worked for me
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> Surface  that is unreabdable, next time, use a !pastebin
[19:36] <Surface> ok sorry, wait ill do this
[19:36] <nicomachus> !pastebin | Surface
[19:37] <Surface> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234826/
[19:37] <nacc> Surface: it appears you already tried to break your system with a different version of libcap?
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> Surface  and how are you root in Ubuntu?
[19:38] <Linux-Ninja> xangua: freee as beer not for Microsoft
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> Linux-Ninja  free speech is more important than free beer
[19:39] <nacc> Surface: waht version of ubuntu is this, btw?
[19:39] <nicomachus> MonkeyDust++
[19:39] <nacc> Surface: and what does `apt-get -f install` report?
[19:39] <Linux-Ninja> MonkeyDust: I agree with you 100%
[19:39] <Surface> if i start the terminal i type in: sudo gnome-terminal, then i dont have to type "sudo" everytime
[19:40] <Surface> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[19:40] <Surface> i change the language from german to english and then i will paste it to pastebin
[19:40] <Tech> EriC^^: I tried that status=progress cmd but it didn't work.
[19:40] <nacc> Surface: xenial has 1.7.4-2, it was a really quite bad idea to try to forcibly (and fail) install 1.4.0-2
[19:41] <ioria> Surface apt-cache policy libpcap0.8
[19:42] <ioria> Tech,   sudo kill -USR1 $(pgrep ^dd)
[19:42] <EriC^^> Tech: maybe you have an old version of dd
[19:42] <Surface> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234842/
[19:42] <Tech> no idea if I do or not
[19:43] <ioria> Surface apt-cache policy libpcap-dev
[19:43] <EriC^^> Tech: try dd --version
[19:43] <EriC^^> mine is 8.25
[19:44] <Tech> ioria: 8.25 me too
[19:44] <Surface> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234845/ apt-get -f install
[19:44] <Tech> I mean EriC^^
[19:44] <Tech> ioria: anything with sudo and kill....worries me....lol
[19:45] <ioria> Tech,   it's ok :þ
[19:45] <Tech> I even did a google search and couldn't find a reference
[19:45] <Surface> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234851/ ...policy libpcap-dev
[19:46] <nacc> Surface: looks like you'll need to manually fix-up libpcap
[19:46] <nacc> Surface: why do you have precise and xenial enabled at the same time?
[19:46] <nacc> Surface: also, the policy requested was for libpcap0.8
[19:46] <Surface> nacc: you mean the repos?
[19:46] <nacc> Surface: oh i see it earlier
[19:46] <nacc> Surface: yes, the respos
[19:46] <nacc> *repos
[19:47] <ioria> Surface dpkg -l | grep libpcap0.8
[19:47] <Surface> as i said: i want to learn to work with linux, and i dont know much about it. i tryed som tutorials to get work ubuntu on the surface pro 4 :D
[19:47] <nacc> i don't think getting linux working on the surface pro 4 is the right way to learn to work on linux :)
[19:47] <nacc> it's probably more hassle than it's worth
[19:48] <Surface> @ ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234858/
[19:48] <ioria> Surface yes, you borked it
[19:48] <Surface> yeah, i think youre right. but i have only the surface at the moment and not much money to buy a laptop / pc
[19:48] <StrumpZ> hi all, without the advise to buy a new NIC card, my onboard E2100 killer network, there are no official linux drivers, do any of you know any unofficial that are confirmed to work?
[19:49] <Surface> yaay i've done a good job xD ... and thanks to everyone who wants to help :)
[19:49] <Tech> ioria: it's gone past the 80 GB mark now...I'm getting discouraged. I'll try your command, I just don't want to stop the progress or delete anything....haha
[19:50] <ioria> Surface why did you install :i386 ver ?
[19:50] <ioria> Tech,   ok
[19:50] <k1l> Surface: wait, you have 12.04 sources in your system?
[19:51] <ioria> !info libpcap0.8 precise
[19:51] <nacc> k1l: yeah, it's ... not rigth
[19:51] <nacc> *right
[19:51] <k1l> Surface: please show a "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* " output on pastebin
[19:51] <Surface> ok
[19:52] <Surface> @ioria: my mistake last night. i saw it too :(
[19:52] <ioria> Surface it's ok
[19:53] <Surface> @ k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234886/
[19:53] <ioria> list:deb http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main universe
[19:53] <Surface> linux is very nice, but a little bit complicated for windows users ^.^
[19:54] <k1l> Surface: that last line in the sources.list with "precise" is wrong
[19:54] <bp_> nacc: i was having dinner, i'm sorry. yes i have bugs: my desktop disappears and i don't know how to debug
[19:54] <nacc> bp_: ok, filing the bugs is often a good way to contribute then
[19:54] <Surface> @ k1l: you mean the tigerite repo?
[19:55] <k1l> Surface: do a "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and delete the last line which has "precise" in it. then ctrl+o to save, and ctrl+x to exit.
[19:55] <izzual> test
[19:55] <Surface> @k1l ok
[19:55] <bp_> nacc: but if i want to partecipate to the project? try to fix it by myself? can you suggest me a way?
[19:56] <k1l> Surface: that ppa should point to xenial too. but you can change that in the GUI in system settings -> software and updates > 3rd party software
[19:56] <Tech> ioria: I won't doubt your awesomeness ever again!  :D
[19:56]  * Tech bows to ioria .
[19:56] <ioria> Tech,   ^_^
[19:56] <nacc> bp_: there is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved/Newcomer
[19:57] <nacc> bp_: i would look at other getting started pages, probably
[19:57] <Surface> the last line is deleted
[19:57] <bp_> nacc: thanks, this is enough. bless
[19:57] <nacc> bp_: good luck
[19:58] <Tech> ioria: I'm confused by the output though
[19:58] <yourname2> Surface: i know that it isnt reaver but you could use the aircrack-ng suite instead.
[19:59] <k1l> yourname2: that doesnt help him with his sources mess he got there anyway. if that is sorted reaver will install
[19:59] <Surface> can i scan wps routers with aircrack-ng?
[19:59] <yourname2> Surface: yup
[19:59] <k1l> Surface: first get your mess sorted there. you will run into a lot more issues
[20:00] <Surface> @yourname2: thank you
[20:00] <Surface> @k1l you are right
[20:00] <Surface> @ i am working on it
[20:01] <yourname2> Surface: just saying if you cant get it figured out.
[20:01] <Surface> :)
[20:06] <Surface> i have no idea how can i fix the apt-get -f insall problem^^ someone has a tip? (i googled before i asked)
[20:07] <Tech> Okay how do I kill this dd img creation process....it's building to over 150GB ???
[20:07] <Tech> and I only have 230 GB free on this external hdd it's copying to
[20:07] <k1l> Surface: wait
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> Surface  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15121279/
[20:07] <k1l> Surface: did you do what i told you?
[20:07] <StrumpZ> anyone know of linux drivers for killer network e2100 chip?
[20:08] <Surface> @ to fix ist manually? @ k1l
[20:08] <k1l> Surface: i told you to fix your sources.list and to fix the ppa.
[20:08] <ppf> darkdrgn2k: thanks for the help earlier, this is working far better than expected ;)
[20:09] <Surface> k1l: the last line i've deleted, if you mean this.. with the 3nd party software i have nothing maked
[20:10] <Surface> @ monkey dust: ok, thx
[20:10] <k1l> Surface: open systemsettings -> software and updates -> 3rd party tab. then choose your PPA there and make sure in the settings it links to xenial and not something else.
[20:11] <k1l> Surface: its very very bad that you mix ubuntu releases there. who ever told you that did give you very bad advice.
[20:11] <ppf> MonkeyDust: that's really heavy handed
[20:12] <felipebhz> hi guys
[20:12] <felipebhz> I think I have a problem with my refresh rate of HDMI port
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> ppf  true, couldnt have found it myself, picked it up here
[20:13] <felipebhz> Already tried almost everything since sunday morning :/
[20:13] <felipebhz> Randomly my screen just blinks, like it was changing refresh rate
[20:13] <felipebhz> ubuntu 16.04 | Intel HD 3000
[20:16] <Bashing-om> felipebhz: Driver loaded ' lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'  ' ?
[20:16] <felipebhz> One moment pls
[20:16] <sukesh> Hi am not able to create Hotspot in Ubuntu 16.04. I have tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/490950/create-wifi-hotspot-on-ubuntu, but doesnt work. Can sum one guide me?
[20:16] <Surface> @ k1l : sorry, my english is not very good. to make sure that i have understand you: should i uncheck the ppa(tigerite) @ 3rd party?
[20:16] <felipebhz> Bashing-om, 	Kernel driver in use: i915
[20:17] <ppf> !de | Surface
[20:17] <sukesh> *some
[20:17] <felipebhz> Bashing-om, I disabled the intel one via Aditional Drivers/Programs Update
[20:17] <mr-e> Hello everyone, I'm running ubuntu 16.04, and have two monitors (display port and hdmi) with 4 virtual desktops. Whenever my computer sleeps, the windows are moved across all desktops. Is there a way to prevent that?
[20:17] <k1l> Surface: no, not uncheck it. open the edit settings and make sure it links to xenial and not trusty. trusty is 14.04 and you use 16.04. so that is wrong.
[20:17] <Surface> ahhhh ok
[20:18] <mr-e> Even enabled proprietary drivers, no die
[20:18] <mr-e> *dice
[20:18] <ppf> mr-e: what's your WM?
[20:18] <Bashing-om> felipebhz: Well, Intel provides the driver in the kernel; and Intell generally just works . As it is loaded, I do not know what else to do with Intel graphics .
[20:18] <felipebhz> mr-e, seems HDMI and Ubuntu are not friends anymore. haha My problem here is my external TV connected via HDMI keeps refreshing randomly
[20:19] <Surface> @ppf thanks :)
[20:19] <ppf> sure :)
[20:19] <Surface> @k1l done, edited to xenial
[20:19] <felipebhz> Bashing-om, Is any other option to check like kernel update or something?
[20:20] <felipebhz> Bashing-om, I googled it a lot and probably it is a common problem, but none of the options I have tried solved it
[20:20] <mr-e> ppf: Unity
[20:20] <k1l> Surface: ok, now on the terminal run "sudo apt update"
[20:20] <ppf> afraid i got no idea then :)
[20:21] <k1l> Surface: after that "sudo apt full-upgrade" put the output to pastebin please
[20:21] <Surface> ok
[20:21] <ppf> k1l: what's full-upgrade
[20:22] <k1l> ppf: its the old apt-get dist-upgrade but with a new name that is less confusing
[20:22] <ppf> right you said apt
[20:22] <Surface> @k1l : same problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234982/
[20:23] <k1l> Surface: "sudo apt-get -f install" please
[20:23] <ppf> i kinda missed the beginning of this. did you try to remove the :i386 version yet?
[20:24] <Surface> @k1l i tryed that, same error. i will post it mom
[20:24] <Surface> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234985/
[20:24] <Surface> @ppf how can i do that? no i dont tryed that
[20:25] <k1l> Surface: sudo apt purge libpcap0.8:i386
[20:25] <Surface> and thanks to all who wants to help me!
[20:25] <Surface> @k1l, done
[20:26] <k1l> Surface: did it remove it?
[20:26] <Surface> yes, no error if i type now apt-get -f install
[20:26] <k1l> ok. sudo apt install reaver
[20:26] <ppf> paste the output of the remove command please
[20:26] <ppf> just to be sure
[20:26] <Surface> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23234992/
[20:27] <ppf> good
[20:27] <Surface> reaver is already installed. should i do this again?
[20:27] <mr-e> Anyone else got an idea on my window position issue?
[20:28] <k1l> Surface: please run the command. to make sure reaver and the dependencies are installed
[20:28] <krypt_> Hello
[20:28] <Surface> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23235004/ apt-get install reaver
[20:28] <Surface> seems good
[20:28] <k1l> Surface: ok.
[20:29] <pressure679> I do not know where to ask this, but here goes; Does anyone offer a webserver to use a custom emacs server with ssh?
[20:29] <Surface> do you think the wash command will work know?
[20:29] <k1l> Surface: in future dont mix ubuntu releases in the sources
[20:29] <Surface> ok i wont do this again
[20:30] <k1l> Surface: we cant support wifi hacking in here. if you need it for your own testing, then you want to read the documentation anyway.
[20:30] <Tech> Is anyone experienced in installing Virtualbox on Ubuntu live USB CD?
[20:30] <Surface> yes, i am talking about my router
[20:30] <Tech> It seems to be stuck at "waiting to install".
[20:31] <k1l> Surface: doesnt matter. read the documentation. we dont support that in here
[20:31] <ppf> so ... apt over apt-X or not?
[20:32] <Surface> OK everything good. Many thanks for your help and time
[20:32] <k1l> ppf: apt is the new apt-*
[20:32] <k1l> ppf: some features are missing but the most used are included. and it got a fancy progressbar :)
[20:33] <ppf> do they share caches and the like?
[20:33] <k1l> yes
[20:33] <anjan> when'll ubuntu release its new version???
[20:33] <ppf> anjan: in october
[20:34] <Pici> no...
[20:34] <OerHeks> october 20'
[20:34] <OerHeks> ?
[20:34] <k1l> anjan: 20.10.2016
[20:34] <anjan> thanks
[20:34] <Pici> oh, somehow I inserted an LTS in there when reading it.
[20:35] <ppf> k1l: it's nice :)
[20:35] <holden> Hi guys, just out of curiosity, how long does a typical kernel build take? (I have a i5, 8Gb of ram, hdd 320Gb 7200rpm)
[20:36] <anjan> well how to check my current kernel ???
[20:36] <ppf> uname -a
[20:36] <MCMic_> Hello
[20:36] <anjan> oooo thanks
[20:36] <Surface> one last question bevore i go: i look to /var/log/kern.log and it shows me (often) : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23235030/
[20:36] <MCMic_> Why would a polkit action defined in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/ not appear in pkaction list?
[20:37] <OerHeks> holden, between 30-90 minutes, hard to say
[20:37] <felipebhz> Guys, the driver i915 is Intel proprietary or Ubuntu opensource default?
[20:37] <MCMic_> I can't mount usb drives because the udisks actions are supposedly missing, but the files are there
[20:37] <ppf> Surface: that's something you should try to google
[20:38] <holden> OerHeks, thanks, I started a compilation and it's been running for a while... we'll see :)
[20:38] <Surface>  ok :D
[20:38] <Surface> have a nice day :)
[20:38] <ppf> holden: do remember to run make -j ;)
[20:39] <holden> ppf, I did, I ran "make -j `getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN` deb-pkg LOCALVERSION=-custom"
[20:39] <ppf> sounds good
[20:40] <ppf> you could use more, though
[20:40] <felipebhz> I wanted to know it, because I really need to check if Ubuntu is using intel's or community drivers.
[20:40] <k1l> felipebhz: the intel driver is in the kernel. that will be used
[20:41] <holden> ppf, how much more would you recommend?
[20:41] <ppf> i usually go with 4xprocessors
[20:42] <felipebhz> k1l, I need to know how to change it to Intel's proprietary one so I can check if the random refreshs in my HDMI monitor is a driver problem
[20:42] <k1l> felipebhz: there is no intel prop. one
[20:42] <SomethisGER> Mhmm ... when editing text with nano, how do I delete the current word (to correct a typo)?
[20:42] <SomethisGER> In bash or zsh terminal I would just type ALT+DEL to delete it.
[20:42] <k1l> felipebhz: what ubuntu and what kernel is it?
[20:43] <Tech> Has anyone successfully installed VirtualBox in Ubuntu Live CD? I'm not seeing any progress with the software install and I've been waiting for 10 minutes....it shouldn't take that long.
[20:43] <felipebhz> k1l, is there anything I can do? I have a 2310m with Intel HD Graphics 3000 - It randomly refreshes the HDMI monitor without any pattern
[20:43] <ppf> SomethisGER: nano isn't a very powerful tool
[20:43] <k1l> SomethisGER: "backspace"? :)
[20:43] <felipebhz> k1l, one moment
[20:43] <ppf> could try ctrl-w
[20:43] <ppf> or use a more powerful editor
[20:44] <felipebhz> k1l, ubuntu 16.04 | Kernel 4.7.4-040704-generic
[20:44] <OerHeks> Tech, never worked for me, vbox in live environment
[20:44] <k1l> felipebhz: you could try with the original ubuntu kernel. and not the mainline one
[20:44] <Tech> darnit
[20:44] <tximist> ?
[20:45] <OerHeks> Tech, as you need to fully upgrade the live system, then you might be able to get vbox dkms working
[20:45] <felipebhz> k1l, I tried everything. Even updating the kernel. I had this problem with Ubuntu fresh installed and with Linux Mint :/
[20:45] <SomethisGER> ppf ctrl-w didn't work ...
[20:45] <SomethisGER> ppf: ctrl-w didn't work ...
[20:45] <OerHeks> man nano
[20:46] <ppf> you're probably out of luck
[20:46] <SomethisGER> ppf: yes, so I guess I have to learn vim. There's no Gedit for the terminal :-D
[20:46] <ppf> learning vim is certainly the right thing to do
[20:46] <SomethisGER> OerHeks: just what I was thinking ... MAN nano ;)
[20:47] <SomethisGER> ppf: or Emacs maybe ...
[20:47] <ppf> sure
[20:47] <SomethisGER> ppf: or NANO ;-))))
[20:47] <Bashing-om> SomethisGER: There is : http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/42980/the-beginners-guide-to-nano-the-linux-command-line-text-editor/ .
[20:48] <SomethisGER> Bashing-om: ... ok, checking ...
[20:48] <OerHeks> Ctrl-^ to mark the start of the text,  Ctrl-Space (forward one word) ...
[20:48] <Tech> OerHeks: never tried upgrading so I'm not sure how to do it
[20:54] <codekK> Hi, im having problems with amdgpu pro drivers. Im on Ubuntu 16.04 with AMD Radeon HD 7790. I recompiled the kernel and enabled the CONFIG_DRM_AMDGPU_CIK=Y... but when i install the drivers i get just a blackscreen on boot up :S cant change the tty and cant do nothing... just enter recovery and uninstall it. Some suggestions please??
[20:56] <SomethisGER> Bashing-om: OerHeks: ppf: Thank you for the feedback guys.
[20:56] <k1l> codekK: is 7790 supported by amd gpu pro at all?
[20:56] <SomethisGER> It's true, one can select words but one can't delete them in one stroke.
[20:56] <OerHeks> codekK, not sure that AMD Radeon HD 7790 is supported with AMDgpu, radeon only i guess.
[20:56] <codekK> k1l, yes with the enabled option on kernel
[20:57] <k1l> codekK: i mean officially. not with forcing it
[20:57] <SomethisGER> Nano is not my editor. I think I'll give Emacs a go.
[20:57] <codekK> i read that its supported, not fully but supported and read that other people works with same card
[20:57] <codekK> :S
[20:59] <OerHeks> indeed, sea island https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Amdgpu
[20:59] <OerHeks> but then you don't need to compile stuff on 16.04, it should work ootb
[21:00] <OerHeks> AMD Microcode is required ..
[21:00] <codekK> OerHeks, its required to enabled the kernel option, like i read
[21:03] <emb> a
[21:07] <faekjarz> Hey there! I'm considering to buy an addition minion, an Acer X1700 - are there any known issues with nVidia nForce MCPs / mobo chipsets (NVIDIA GeForce 7100 / nForce 630i)?
[21:16] <tech-o-nox> can someone explain, why benchmarking my http server, i get disconnects with more then 16K  connected file descriptors? ( lsof -i -P | wc -l )  Ulimit is set to 100,000
[21:17] <OerHeks> tech-o-nox, on what ubuntu? and how did you set ulimit?
[21:17] <mike123> hi
[21:18] <tech-o-nox> yes testing on ubuntu, ulimit -n 100000
[21:18] <tech-o-nox> both ulimit -Hn and Sn are set to 100K
[21:18] <OerHeks> which version?
[21:18] <mike123> i am installing ubuntu server on a hp microserver gen 8, with x4 2tb disks in a raid 5 config
[21:19] <OerHeks> with systemd ulimits changed
[21:19] <tech-o-nox> ubuntu desktop version 14.04
[21:19] <mike123> the install start off ok once it hit 33 % its take 2 hours to get to 45%
[21:19] <mike123> can anyone help?
[21:20] <tech-o-nox> mike123, open a terminal when installing, check htop and iotop for disc activity, and report back your findings pls
[21:20] <mike123> can ony one help with slow installs on a software raid 5 config?
[21:21] <tech-o-nox> mike123 also benchmark the raid5 with disk tool and check for read/write speed
[21:21] <tech-o-nox> OerHeks: any ideas?
[21:21] <mike123> thanks tech-o-nox
[21:22] <mike123> any suggestions why the read / write would be so slow?
[21:22] <mike123> there brand new disks
[21:22] <tech-o-nox> could be a bios setting, bootup a linux live cd
[21:22] <mike123> the install was started from a usb pen drive
[21:23] <tech-o-nox> google for the same bios that you have regarding raid5, and bench with live cd
[21:23] <tech-o-nox> or live usb
[21:23] <tech-o-nox> raid5 *settings
[21:23] <OerHeks> tech-o-nox, i was waiting how you set ulimits, or should i guess?
[21:24] <tech-o-nox> the command ulimit -n 100000 to set ulimit
[21:24] <OerHeks> that would do only for that terminal session. not a solution.
[21:25] <OerHeks> you need to edit limits.conf, and do something with /etc/pam.d/common-session
[21:25] <tech-o-nox> i edited /etc/security/limits.conf
[21:25] <tech-o-nox> #*               hard    rss             100000
[21:26] <debkad> wonder if possible to disable ata checking from kernel, kind of ignoring the stat
[21:26] <tech-o-nox> hang on one second, it shouldn't be commented out should it?
[21:27] <OerHeks> nope, i thought you placed that # to write the line, please pastbin the limits.conf on paste.ubuntu.com
[21:28] <tech-o-nox> OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/VnTyjELf
[21:29] <dafhew> "Unknown media type in type 'all/all'"
[21:29] <OerHeks> tech-o-nox, uncomment line 47 48 ?
[21:30] <tech-o-nox> i know why i missed that, i assumed these settings were already in place before i changed them
[21:30] <OerHeks> then sysctl -p
[21:30] <k1l> dafhew: what command gives that error?
[21:31] <RxMcDonald> Hello, I'm having a little issue with my laptop's AC, best explained here http://askubuntu.com/questions/830053/laptop-doesnt-detect-ac-adapter-on-ubuntu-but-works-on-windows
[21:31] <tech-o-nox> OerHeks: did that , is there a way to check if the setting has been applied?
[21:32] <RxMcDonald> could anyone shed some light into this? It only happens on ubuntu
[21:32] <reisio> RxMcDonald: as opposed to?
[21:32] <OerHeks> ulimit -Hn && ulimit -Sn
[21:32] <reisio> RxMcDonald: Windows?
[21:32] <RxMcDonald> reisio: yep
[21:32] <k1l> RxMcDonald: what laptop is it?
[21:32] <tech-o-nox> 4096
[21:32] <tech-o-nox> 1024
[21:33] <tech-o-nox> opened a new terminal window just in case
[21:33] <RxMcDonald> k1l: it's a lenovo y580
[21:33] <reisio> RxMcDonald: so you booted into Windows and it charges, and then immediately booted into Ubuntu and it isn't?
[21:33] <OerHeks> tech-o-nox, did you edit /etc/pam.d/common-session too? >> https://underyx.me/2015/05/18/raising-the-maximum-number-of-file-descriptors
[21:34] <RxMcDonald> reisio: maybe try reading the link I posted? It has all the info about the issue
[21:34] <OerHeks> session required pam_limits.so
[21:34] <RxMcDonald> http://askubuntu.com/questions/830053/laptop-doesnt-detect-ac-adapter-on-ubuntu-but-works-on-windows
[21:34] <reisio> RxMcDonald: mmm, nevermind
[21:34] <tech-o-nox> will do now
[21:35] <RxMcDonald> reisio: ya it's easier if you read that since typing all here wouldn't be a good idea
[21:35] <OerHeks> tech-o-nox, for more reading http://askubuntu.com/questions/594765/ubuntu-14-04-cant-get-past-4096-max-open-files-for-non-root-user http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21515463/how-to-increase-maximum-file-open-limit-ulimit-in-ubuntu
[21:35] <reisio> it's not if I want to confirm something
[21:35] <reisio> only a response from you can do that, but I've lost interest
[21:36] <OerHeks> with systemD things change, and ulimits will be easier https://sskaje.me/systemd-ulimit/ per service
[21:36] <reisio> I can think of another init system that has per-service ulimit :)
[21:36] <RxMcDonald> reisio: it's not what you are thinking
[21:37] <OerHeks> RxMcDonald, reset your hardware ( battery out>in) and try again, maybe your bios doing this.
[21:37] <RxMcDonald> reisio: either way no, it started happening on ubuntu
[21:37] <reisio> RxMcDonald: I'm not thinking anything about your situation, sorry
[21:37] <tech-o-nox> OerHeks: yes but still wierd, nothing indicates a 16K limit, and both with nginx as with another http server
[21:37] <RxMcDonald> OerHeks: yea tried that and now it's charging on windows
[21:37] <RxMcDonald> OerHeks: hadnt tried on windows
[21:38] <RxMcDonald> reisio: you said "wanted to confirm something"
[21:38] <RxMcDonald> reisio: why I always get trolled in this channel?
[21:39] <tech-o-nox> have to reboot to have things take effect, brb
[21:39] <RxMcDonald> OerHeks: should I boot back into ubuntu?
[21:40] <OerHeks> RxMcDonald, after pulling the battery yes
[21:40] <OerHeks> clean boot
[21:40] <RxMcDonald> OerHeks: it charged 16% either way shouldn't I be able to use my computer without the battery?
[21:40] <RxMcDonald> i used to be able to do it, tried it and didnt work
[21:40] <k1l> RxMcDonald: well, looking for your model and charger give a lot of users complaining about it not working.
[21:40] <RxMcDonald> k1l: :O
[21:41] <RxMcDonald> k1l: i've owned it for almost 2 years now and I never had issues until i started using it with an adapter with lower amperage
[21:42] <RxMcDonald> either way it's working fine on windows
[21:43] <debkad> RxMcDonald: seem like something to change on your bios
[21:44] <tech-o-nox> OerHeks: ulimit is still default on 1024 with a terminal session
[21:44] <RxMcDonald> I used the computer without the battery before now it's not working, that is not cool
[21:44] <OerHeks> "with an adapter with lower amperage" is totally unimportant information
[21:44] <RxMcDonald> well, that is what caused the issue
[21:45] <debkad> lower amperage is fine the inverse is risky
[21:45] <RxMcDonald> lower amperage caused the computer to turn to battery
[21:45] <RxMcDonald> then it decided to stay that way
[21:45] <n-iCe> Hi guys
[21:45] <OerHeks> There is no solvable issue then.
[21:46] <RxMcDonald> I could go back to ubuntu and see if it fixed itself automagically
[21:46] <OerHeks> tech-o-nox, maybe you need to write the rule for nginx exclusive?
[21:46] <k1l> RxMcDonald: yes
[21:46] <debkad> RxMcDonald: best to shutdown the pc, let it incharge for a while before using it
[21:46] <debkad> or it die completely
[21:46] <tech-o-nox> OerHeks: its both with nginx and another http server, i wrote myself, so it's def a system limitation
[21:47] <debkad> low amperage need big time to do the job
[21:47] <RxMcDonald> debkad: die completely?
[21:47] <RxMcDonald> it's charging fine on windows
[21:47] <debkad> yeah the battery
[21:47] <RxMcDonald> no, now i'm using the good adapter
[21:47] <RxMcDonald> i have two adapters
[21:47] <RxMcDonald> one at work with lower amperage and this one that is the one that came with the laptop
[21:47] <tech-o-nox> OerHeks: i even changed the port range to 13000   65000 , but no luck , still disconnects after 16K open file descriptors
[21:48] <RxMcDonald> i don't take it to work because it weighs 2kg
[21:48] <debkad> that ok too, but best to shutdown , plug it in charge ( no use until some time ) than start to use the pc
[21:48] <tech-o-nox> RAM usage is under 50 % and no cpu bottlenecks
[21:48] <RxMcDonald> it's already at 25% now on windows
[21:48] <debkad> ok do what ever you want
[21:49] <debkad> don't be surprised when it die
[21:49] <RxMcDonald> but I should be able to use the computer without the battery
[21:49] <debkad> ok your choice
[21:49] <RxMcDonald> but it doesn't turn on without it
[21:50] <RxMcDonald> I'm pretty sure I used it without the battery before but can't remember
[21:50] <k1l> RxMcDonald: that depends on the mainboard. some manufacturers dont want that.
[21:50] <lordcirth> RxMcDonald, normally laptops let you run them without the battery.  But perhaps #hardware will be better able to help.
[21:51] <debkad> RxMcDonald: if you want to use it without the battery, unplug the battery, reset the bios, power on it after
[21:51] <RxMcDonald> debkad: reset the bios how?
[21:51] <Tech> lordcirth: offtopic: can #hardware help with increasing battery life for a laptop? :)
[21:52] <debkad> RxMcDonald: check the manual for your laptop or from google
[21:52] <RxMcDonald> u mean flashing the bios? No ty
[21:52] <lordcirth> Tech, increasing?  I don't know.  They might have advice on preventing wear.
[21:52] <debkad> RxMcDonald: no not flashing, reseting
[21:52] <RxMcDonald> alright going back to ubuntu, see if it's fixed
[21:52] <Tech> I tested it and it shows battery (weak 30)
[21:52] <RxMcDonald> debkad: to default settings or what?
[21:53] <RxMcDonald> debkad: that's pretty easy, this bios only has like 3 settings
[21:53] <RxMcDonald> looks like I'm not the only one with battery issues today?
[21:53] <Tech> nope
[21:54] <debkad> RxMcDonald: there are bios, can be reseted by unpluging the battery, keep pushing the power button for a moment
[21:54] <debkad> it depend on the laptop
[21:55] <debkad> better to check out on google
[21:55] <RxMcDonald> alright, now it says charging, guess it fixed itself automagically
[21:55] <debkad> ok
[21:55] <RxMcDonald> when I removed the battery
[21:56] <RxMcDonald> thanks for the help everyone
[22:00] <tech-o-nox> OerHeks: i maybe got something here, if i count the global file desc.  lsof | wc -l  when hitting that limit, and substract it when the http server is shutdown,  i get 65809, file descriptors
[22:00] <baps> I'm trying to copy the contents of a windows partition to an image (so I can easily mount/move later) on a windows share on the network using a 16.04 live CD. Files on the disk total ~40Gb. cp (even with --sparse=always) creates an image almost the size of the partition. dd does the same. Can anyone suggest a way to do this that doesn't copy the unused space?
[22:01] <tech-o-nox> so 65K file descriptors being used,  that's also the maximum number of ports per IP on linux
[22:01] <msev--> so i'm partitioning in windows, and i'm short of the third partition for swap, but windows says he's got to the maximum partitions and can't partition more
[22:01] <debkad> baps: you can mount the image with loopback then shrink the unused space and then concatenate
[22:02] <k1l> msev--: you can only create 4 primary partitions
[22:02] <uRock> msev--, create one large Extended partition, then put the Linux partitions within it
[22:02] <baps> Thanks debkad, one moment I read up on that.
[22:03] <compdoc> msev--, be very careful if you have anything worth saving in windows. one mistake and it will all be gone
[22:03] <msev--> compdoc, yeah...
[22:03] <msev--> sooo... what should i do...
[22:03] <uRock> msev--, create one large Extended partition, then put the Linux partitions within it
[22:03] <debkad> baps: better to defrag on windows before making image
[22:04] <debkad> to have best result
[22:05] <msev--> i dunno how to make that extended one :/
[22:05] <baps> debkad: The drive appears to be starting to fail so trying to avoid writes to it in case.
[22:05] <uRock> Lemme boot my VM and find how
[22:05] <msev--> i'm in the disk manager uRock
[22:05] <debkad> baps: the idea is like the one here: http://softwarebakery.com/shrinking-images-on-linux
[22:06] <uRock> msev--, within WIndows, right?
[22:06] <msev--> yep
[22:06] <k1l> msev--: just resize the windows partitions from there. you can make the ubuntu partitions on the installer
[22:07] <msev--> how if i press create new partition table it deletes all the windows partitions
[22:07] <k1l> msev--: dont create new partition table.
[22:07] <msev--> i have two disks, one ssd and one data disk
[22:07] <baps> debkad: Ahh that's much simpler than what I was reading! I didn't think of shrinking the image after creating it. Thanks! I'll try that.
[22:07] <msev--> k11 but i'm one partition short
[22:07] <k1l> msev--: you just need to create new partitions. not the table
[22:07] <debkad> :)
[22:07] <msev--> (for swap)
[22:08] <msev--> i can send you guys a screenshot of how my disks look currenly in windows
[22:08] <msev--> but its in slovenian language
[22:08] <k1l> msev--: yes i know. and you were told the solution already twice.
[22:08] <uRock> it's taking its sweet time figuring how much I can shrink the volume
[22:09] <k1l> msev--: you can only make 4 primary partitions. but you can put all ubuntu partitions into a extended partition.
[22:09] <msev--> i still don't get it how to do that lol
[22:10] <uRock> k1l, I am trying to see if he can create that from within WIndows
[22:10] <msev--> there is no such option
[22:10] <k1l> msev--: so just shrink the windows partitions to have enough space. then boot the ubuntu usb and we carry on making partitions from there
[22:10] <Guest42397> can anyone help me get my dual shock controller to be recognized on here?
[22:11] <msev--> ok i can go back to the live usb session and i'll write what i see there hehe
[22:11] <uRock> msev--,  k1l i correct, Windows will not allow you to create an extended partition from within.
[22:11] <msev--> brb
[22:12] <Guest42397> nvm lol
[22:13] <Bashing-om> msev--: There can be but 4 primary partitions; but, one of these primary partitions can be an "extended" partition. In this extended partition can be the logical partitions on which to install ubuntu .
[22:13] <uRock> msev--, You'll have to use GParted in the live image to create the extended volume, then create your partitions within it.
[22:14]  * uRock Note to self, running VM and aircrack at the same is not recommanded.
[22:21] <msev--> https://imgur.com/Lf5TT0Q
[22:21] <msev--> Does this look legit
[22:21] <msev--> uRock and others
[22:22] <k1l> msev--: 50GB for / is too much.
[22:22] <uRock> WIndows may throw you some issues, I'd delete the EXT4 and Swap, then create a large extended and put them within it
[22:22] <k1l> 10-20Gb for / is enough since you have /home excluded
[22:23] <uRock> What k1l said, too
[22:23] <k1l> and is this a gpt disk?
[22:23] <msev--> Meh gonna leave the 50gb
[22:23] <kk4ewt>  /boot ?
[22:23] <lordcirth> eh I've used 40GB / with most of /home separate
[22:24] <k1l> kk4ewt: no need for /boot
[22:24] <msev--> So with this settings both oses should boot?
[22:24] <lordcirth> All it takes is a few games
[22:24] <msev--> Do i have correct disk for the bootloader
[22:24] <k1l> msev--: is this a gpt disk?
[22:24] <msev--> No
[22:24] <msev--> Its within gnome
[22:24] <k1l> msev--: are sda5 and sda6 in an extended partition=
[22:25] <msev--> Dunno man
[22:25] <uRock> msev--, I'd recommend booting all the way into live image, then use GParted from there, so you can see all of the info k1l is asking for
[22:25] <tech-o-nox> OerHeks: thanks for any help
[22:25] <msev--> Ok opening up gparted
[22:26] <debkad> msev--: best to start gparted to be sure
[22:26] <uRock> we just don't want you to break WIndows
[22:26] <tech-o-nox> need to go, bb
[22:27] <msev--> Gonna take a pic
[22:27] <uRock> no selfies
[22:28] <msev--> https://imgur.com/rMsdin4
[22:28] <msev--> Hahaha
[22:29] <k1l> msev--: ok. i suggest you delete the extended (sda5) and the sda3. then make a new extended one using al the free space. then put the / the /home and swap inside that
[22:31] <uRock> msev--, click on View, then select device information to see if it is a msdos or gpt
[22:32] <msev--> Everything is msdos
[22:32] <msev--> i think im gonna continue tommorrow this is too much for today hehe
[22:34] <KNIGHTDX> can someone please tell me why i cant see anything i drag to my desktop actually on my desktop?
[22:34] <msev--> Thanks guys hopefully we will continue in a few days :) going in a trip
[22:35] <th0r> KNIGHTDX, what desktop are you using?
[22:35] <KNIGHTDX> well i was using gnome on ubuntu 16.04 but i switched back to unity to see if it made a difference and it didnt
[22:35] <th0r> KNIGHTDX, my bad...what DE are you using...gnome, xfce, kde?
[22:37] <th0r> KNIGHTDX, I am on xfce, and I know that here I can program what the desktop shows. I think gnome is the same way
[22:37] <th0r> KNIGHTDX, here i just right click on the desktop to configure it
[22:37] <KNIGHTDX> also i tried to go full screen with a game and my screen wigged out. i mean if i kept minnamizing and maxing the screen i can see it going back and forth  but i cant see anything else
[22:38] <uRock> msev--, have a good one
[22:38] <Henoxek> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=614907#108 wow, what a smart decision to rename /usr/bin/node -> /usr/bin/nodejs and make problems for thousand of developers just to satisfy 1.5 nerds who ever need amateur radio
[22:39] <k1l> Henoxek: this is not the right channel for plain rantings. thanks
[22:40] <Henoxek> k
[22:43] <trasken> This is Knightdx I think I may do a fresh install honestly.  What was the Ubuntu number that was right before unity came out?
[22:43] <k1l> trasken: no need for that. ubuntu ships a lot of desktops. you can choose another one if you dont like unity
[22:44] <uRock> Way back in the days of unsupported. Shouldn't need to do that though. One click of a setting should fix your issue.
[22:44] <OerHeks> trasken, use the gnome3 version without unity  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME
[22:44] <k1l> and your "my game broke my desktop" issue is not really unity dependend
[22:45] <trasken> Ya I know.  But somethings  messing with my graphics anyway. I've had issues with other things as well.
[22:46] <skinux> How do I tell set whether it is Apache2 or nGinx that starts with the computer?
[22:48] <OerHeks> systemctl status name.service or journalctl -b
[22:57] <tlu1> how do i notify the kernel of changes to the disk while in live installer mode?
[22:58] <tlu1> or should i just reboot and try again?
[22:58] <reisio> skinux: or curl -I http://localhost/
[22:59] <tlu1> ?
[22:59] <reisio> tlu1: to... partitions?
[22:59] <reisio> try 'partprobe'
[22:59] <n-iCe> hi
[23:00] <tlu1> yes, it was formatting and then it said that it couldnt notify the kernel of changes
[23:01] <tlu1> this is kubuntu using ubi-partman if that at all helps
[23:01] <tlu1> ill try partprobe
[23:02] <tlu1> i did the smart thing and google searched it first
[23:04] <tlu1> it says that there is an error, and that the device or resource is busy
[23:04] <tlu1> i think i will just reboot.
[23:04] <reisio> that'd take care of it
[23:05] <tlu1> lets just hope it will work this time
[23:06] <tlu1> i have to wait another three years
[23:07] <reisio> ?
[23:07] <EnemyViolent> Does anyone have any experience with this? https://wiki.debian.org/VGAPassthrough
[23:07] <tlu1> nvm
[23:07] <tlu1> no
[23:07] <n-iCe> how can this be possible?
[23:08] <k1l> EnemyViolent: i guess you want to use it for gaming? then just make a dualboot and use windows.
[23:08] <n-iCe> Mem:           Total7893       Used 2259         Free210 <- memory RAM
[23:09] <tlu1> does anybody know of any cheap gpus (<$10) that have a dvi output and cheap shipping
[23:09] <debkad> n-iCe: i never understand how free works, some distro take free as free, others take buffers as used/free
[23:09] <k1l> n-iCe: what exactly?
[23:10] <reisio> tlu1: what outs do you have now?
[23:10] <k1l> n-iCe: can you pastebin the full output of "free -m"?
[23:10] <tlu1> only vga
[23:10] <reisio> tlu1: and you have a monitor with what ins?
[23:10] <n-iCe> !pastebin
[23:11] <n-iCe> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23235708/
[23:11] <tlu1> vga and dvi, but the analogue to digital converter is broken, so i can only use dvi
[23:11] <k1l> n-iCe: and what is the issue?
[23:11] <Jsync> http://pasteboard.co/7UlpGir2w.png
[23:11] <reisio> tlu1: the monitor's broken?
[23:11] <n-iCe> k1l: check the numbers
[23:12] <tlu1> the adc is broken so vga doesnt work
[23:12] <reisio> tlu1: https://www.google.com/search?q=vga%20to%20dvi%20cable
[23:12] <tlu1> it just shows random crap
[23:12] <n-iCe> I have total 8000MB is using about 1000MB, and free about 1300MB?
[23:12] <Jsync> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_search_engine
[23:12] <n-iCe> how is that possible
[23:12] <k1l> n-iCe: look at buffers and cache
[23:12] <n-iCe> what is that k1l
[23:13] <n-iCe> k1l: looks ok, for you?
[23:13] <Jsync> I appreciate you guys. The Global DrakoNet is the correct & sociologically appropriate Data Network.
[23:13] <debkad> n-iCe: free -h to see it in mega
[23:13] <k1l> n-iCe: this explains it: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[23:13] <tlu1> vga to dvi doesnt work because its just vga over dvi, thus it needs to convert the analogue vga signal to digital either way
[23:13] <n-iCe> k1l: so is normal?
[23:13] <n-iCe> thanks debkad
[23:14] <k1l> n-iCe: read my link for the explanation.
[23:14] <reisio> tlu1: https://www.google.com/search?q=vga%20dvi%20converter#q=vga+dvi+active+converter
[23:14] <k1l> Jsync: only ubuntu tehcnical support in here
[23:14] <k1l> tlu1: better ask in ##hardware for the video card search
[23:15] <tlu1> ok
[23:16] <c00k33-m0st3r> does anyone know of a way to stream xbox one on ubuntu
[23:16] <tlu1> how many floppy disks do you personally own?
[23:18] <tlu1> WOAH WOAH WOAH!!!!
[23:18] <teward> !offtopic | tlu1
[23:18] <tlu1> my computer just crashed VERY dramatically
[23:19] <tlu1> ubottu: it was on topic
[23:19] <tlu1> ubottu: lol
[23:20] <tlu1> my computer just randomly showed a whole bunch of weird crap and locked up
[23:23] <tlu1> #ubottu
[23:29] <debkad> c00k33-m0st3r: no idea may be through ftp
[23:54] <debikad> test