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[00:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kactivities build #756: FIXED in 31 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kactivities/756/
[00:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[00:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[00:36] <tsimonq2> so it seems like we're looking at a release tomorrow
[00:36]  * tsimonq2 does a happy dance
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[00:46] <valorie> oh nice
[00:46] <valorie> both for the green, and for the beta!
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[01:08] <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> another beta>
[01:08] <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> ?
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[01:11] <valorie> ahoneybun: in spite of my blogpost, they haven't published a beta until now
[01:11] <valorie> there were just daily images
[01:11] <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> oh wow
[01:11] <valorie> still not published
[01:11] <valorie> yes, so many days late is unprecidented
[01:12] <ahoneybun> well the amount of packages might be unprecidented as well
[01:12]  * ahoneybun kicks his LG G Watch
[01:12] <ahoneybun> darn thing will not work with adb
[01:13] <valorie> ahoneybun: it was a problem with the new kernel
[01:13] <ahoneybun> oh?
[01:13] <valorie> dumped into the system at the last minute
[01:13] <ahoneybun> but just effect us?
[01:13] <valorie> I guess better befor the beta than after
[01:13] <valorie> no, alll of ubuntu
[01:13] <ahoneybun> 4.8 should be good to have
[01:14] <valorie> "cyphermox> but I'm running a quick test on kubuntu now" from #ubuntu-release
[01:14] <valorie> :-)
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[01:32] <cyphermox> valorie: not really relevant to the respins and beta release
[01:32] <tsimonq2> ohai cyphermox 
[01:33] <cyphermox> I've been trying to track down a crash on the GTK side, so testing to make sure the KDE side works and whether the fix is required there as well, seems like not
[01:34] <cyphermox> so, afaict the install works as it should for the very limited test case I did
[01:35] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: we've been trying to convert the slideshow to PyQt5. It would be very helpful if there was instructions somewhere for spinning up images, so we can load a custom Ubiquity on there and test.
[01:37] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: so far I've looked and looked and looked and have found absolutely nothing that works.
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[01:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[01:58] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: you shouldn't have to do more than uploading ubiquity and/or ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu to a PPA and installing it in the live session
[01:59] <cyphermox> spinning true custom isos that closely resemble the official images is usually more trouble than really necessary in most cases
[02:01] <cyphermox> the easy way to go about it however should you really need it is to copy all the files off an image, modify them as appropriate, and use xorriso to rebuild it, with a script like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23236864/
[02:01] <cyphermox> (that requires both isolinux and xorriso to be installed)
[02:02] <cyphermox> + squashfs-tools if you have to modify things in the squashfs
[02:02] <valorie> oh nice
[02:02] <valorie> thanks, cyphermox
[02:03] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: how does Ubuntu do it?
[02:03] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: how does it grab all the packages and spin it into an ISO?
[02:03] <cyphermox> I use the same logic to modify the squashfs -- copy files over, modify as appropriate (may be easier in a chroot sometimes), then rebuild the squashfs, copy it back in the directory where you have the copy of all the other files, then xorriso
[02:05] <cyphermox> the official images use a "similar" way, the squashfs is generated using livecd-rootfs by installing all the relevant packages in a chroot, following the seeds and whatnot, then that files gets pulled in with other things to generate the iso (that part is done by debian-cd), and some logic around it (lp:ubuntu-cdimage) to put everything together and publish it.
[02:05] <tsimonq2> where is that code?
[02:06] <cyphermox> as I mentioned, livecd-rootfs, debian-cd, and lp:ubuntu-cdimage
[02:06] <ahoneybun> I was just putting a ppa with my build package on a live image
[02:06] <cyphermox> it's much much easier to install in a live session from a PPA
[02:06] <tsimonq2> ok thank you cyphermox 
[02:08] <valorie> it would be so great to get our slideshow fixed
[02:08] <cyphermox> you only really need to rebuild the iso when it's something that has to do with how the squashfs gets loaded, or how the image boots, etc, which is not something that breaks very much
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[07:47] <sitter> maxyz: latest in breeze-icons master is what I looked at, the version I upstreamed is slightly different since we need to do the check on the source rather than the installed tree, but results are the same :)
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[07:57] <acheronuk> no beta?
[08:13] <maxyz> sitter: Thanks
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[09:00] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:35] <blaze> sorry guys, false alarm
[09:36] <blaze> there's some job to be done
[09:36] <blaze> porting is not finished
[09:36] <acheronuk> :(
[09:37] <acheronuk> blaze: thank you for the efforts so far :D
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[11:14] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:21] <tsdgeos> mitya57: ping
[11:21] <mitya57> tsdgeos, hey
[11:21] <tsdgeos> mitya57: about the new appmenu thing
[11:22] <tsdgeos> mitya57: i just realized all the shorcuts are "gone" (i.e. not shown)
[11:22] <tsdgeos> they still work
[11:22] <tsdgeos> but not shown in the menu on the right hand side
[11:22] <tsdgeos> again qt apps + unity7
[11:23] <mitya57> tsdgeos, see my comment in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-appmenu/+bug/1612767/comments/18
[11:23] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1612767 in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu) "Drop appmenu-qt5 from default installations" [Undecided,New]
[11:23] <tsdgeos> oh
[11:24] <mitya57> So far I was not able to find where this regression happened :(
[11:24] <mitya57> The obvious candidate is indicator-appmenu, but it mostly hasn't changed since xenial
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[12:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[12:39] <mhall119> ahoneybun: what do you need help with?
[12:40] <mhall119> ahoneybun: also, the metro-rail goes to the airport, it was kind of sketchy in the 80's when I last rode it, but maybe it's an option
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[14:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[14:19] <clivejo> grrr
[14:19] <clivejo> I installed those files!
[14:19] <clivejo> why why why
[14:20] <acheronuk> ????
[14:20] <clivejo> those pyc files
[14:20] <clivejo> I added them to install file
[14:20] <clivejo> but still saying they arent installed
[14:21] <clivejo> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kajongg/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=ab4a84d1b629a6c19e1b9e9f4fdeecf1f116234a
[14:21] <acheronuk> oh....
[14:22] <clivejo> oh indeed
[14:22] <clivejo> the should be in not-installed
[14:22] <clivejo> silly clive
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[14:24] <acheronuk> easily done
[14:25] <acheronuk> can shadeslayer Mirv etc just use a diff for a new frameworks upload? i.e. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23242380/
[14:25] <shadeslayer> sorry busy tooday
[14:26] <acheronuk> shadeslayer: no problem
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[14:54] <clivejo> sgclark: would you have time to apply this diff and upload the package - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23242380/
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[14:54] <clivejo> pretty please, with honey on top
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[14:57] <sgclark> sure, gimme a few
[14:57] <clivejo> thanks :)
[15:04] <clivejo> !info libkcompactdisc
[15:04] <ubottu> Package libkcompactdisc does not exist in yakkety
[15:04] <sgclark> clivejo: that patch failed as already applied
[15:04] <clivejo> oh, who did that
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[15:07] <acheronuk> sgclark: oh, if you are taking from the packaging git, then yes I did. duh. sorry.
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[15:08] <sgclark> only way I know how to upload, I am unclear how shadeslayer does it with tars
[15:08] <acheronuk> it would be just the top part with the changlog that needs applying if you already have the git changes
[15:09] <sgclark> please correct the patch then, I am working and don't have time to fiddle.
[15:11] <acheronuk> sgclark: I can amend or just push all to git so you use the latest there? which do you prefer?
[15:11] <sgclark> push all to git
[15:12] <acheronuk> sgclark: done
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[15:17] <sgclark> uploaded
[15:19] <acheronuk> sgclark: thank you for sparing the time :)
[15:19] <sgclark> np
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[15:20] <acheronuk> \o/ ^^^^ clive
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[15:21] <clivejo> acheronuk: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/286890579/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.libkcompactdisc_4%3A16.04.3+p16.10+git20160927.1449-0_BUILDING.txt.gz
[15:22] <clivejo> what should the new lib be called?
[15:31] <acheronuk> clivejo: not sure. I saw that one when it changed, and decided to come back to it later :P
[15:48] <tsdgeos> mitya57: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/libdbusmenu/fix_accelerator_not_showing/+merge/306911
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[17:38] <soee_> @ahoneybun https://www.feralinteractive.com/en/news/673/
[18:12] <clivejo> santa_: thanks for your help with libkcompactdisc
[18:12] <santa_> clivejo: no prob, lets hope it's ok now
[18:12] <clivejo> is the debugging package right?
[18:13] <santa_> hmm
[18:13] <clivejo> also need to sort the symbols out
[18:14] <santa_> you can make a new one
[18:15] <santa_> about the dbg I'm not sure, I need to update my knowledge about that area
[18:15] <clivejo> there was some talk in here regarding that, what would you do?
[18:15] <santa_> it changed since the last time I touched -dbg packages
[18:15] <santa_> about symbols?
[18:15] <santa_> I think I would create a new symbols file or update the existing one
[18:16] <clivejo> yes would you 1) delete the file and start a new one 2) ammend the new one
[18:16] <clivejo> does it depend on the package which one you would go for?
[18:16] <acheronuk> [19:15] <slangasek> acheronuk: and it looks like we still need someone to make the call on the Kubuntu images being ready for beta release
[18:17] <acheronuk> [19:16] <acheronuk> slangasek: not me, but I will pass that on
[18:17] <acheronuk> [19:16] <slangasek> valorie: ^^
[18:17] <santa_> clivejo: nope, actually both are fine
[18:17] <santa_> and I mean, no it doesn't depend on the package
[18:17] <BluesKaj> yakkety beta 2 needs graphical help ..X doesn't know where to write the desktop
[18:17] <acheronuk> or can you mark those images as ready now clivejo ?
[18:18] <clivejo> I dont think I can
[18:19] <clivejo> maybe with KC hat on, but I dont wanna abuse that trust level
[18:20] <clivejo> BluesKaj: can you provide more details on your issue, Yakkety is working fine for a number of us and without logs etc we cant even understand what the problem is, never mind fix it
[18:20] <acheronuk> my desktop is right where it should be
[18:21] <clivejo> so is mine
[18:21] <BluesKaj> clivejo, my desktop is below the panel 
[18:21] <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> mhall119 so I'm going to do a lighting talk at SeaGL
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[18:22] <clivejo> BluesKaj: can you open a shared pad or something the detail your hardware, whats installed, what the problem is etc
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[18:23] <mhall119> ahoneybun: nice, what topic?
[18:23] <BluesKaj> the activities asettings work with the special applications settings like size, position and desktop actitvity assignment but the wall paper and kmenu are below the panel 
[18:23] <mhall119> also, look at the awesome stuff sitter got working: http://mhall119.com/2016/09/desktop-app-snap-in-300kb/
[18:24] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @Valoriez can ok the images?
[18:24] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> *you can
[18:26] <BluesKaj> clivejo, using nvidia 8400GS gpu witht 340 driver,  OpenGL 2.0 and 1920x1080 res
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[18:32] <valorie> yofel: can you OK the beta images?
[18:33] <valorie> looks like they are ready to flip the switch finally
[18:33] <valorie> I don't know how to use that site
[18:34] <valorie> ahoneybun: have you applied to do a talk yet?
[18:34] <valorie> IMO they are choosing them now
[18:36] <ahoneybun> valorie: I emailed that guy you did for the table 
[18:36] <valorie> oh good
[18:37] <ahoneybun> he says there are spaces for lighting talks
[18:37] <valorie> excellent
[18:37] <ahoneybun> mhall119_: sphinx/docs in general
[18:37] <valorie> yes, remember this GNU/Linux meet
[18:38] <valorie> although last year there was lots of use github, so.....
[18:38] <valorie> use of
[18:39] <ahoneybun> <3 github
[18:39] <ahoneybun> mhall119_: that's awesome stuff
[18:39] <ahoneybun> super cool sitter
[18:40] <clivejo> hi mariogrip_
[18:47] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Yakkety Beta 2] has been marked as ready
[18:47] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Yakkety Beta 2] has been marked as ready
[18:47] <clivejo> :o
[18:47] <clivejo> who did that?!?
[18:47] <mamarley> ‽
[18:48] <acheronuk> slangasek did. on valorie's request
[18:48] <clivejo> oh
[18:48] <valorie> I hope we're actually ready, since I vouched for it
[18:49] <valorie> 5 days late.....
[18:49] <clivejo> still lots stuck in proposed :(
[18:49] <acheronuk> they would never have gone in as missed the deadline anyway
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[18:52] <acheronuk> we only have one bit of frameworks stuck in the upload queue now, so with luck it will all shake down on the build deps in the next few days.
[18:56] <clivejo> santa_: ping
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[19:03] <clivejo> santa_: with libkcompactdisc being ported to KF5 and having new package names, could we drop the epoch?
[19:08] <valorie> now is the time to test and push for everything we want in the final
[19:09] <valorie> I imagine that a lot of stuff will get through now, once the release team gets some sleep
[19:09] <valorie> we never uploaded applications, correct?
[19:09] <acheronuk> valorie: we are still missing applications, and I fear too late for those
[19:10] <valorie> imo we should file the paperwork and try
[19:10] <valorie> many of them are bugfix only, anyway
[19:10] <acheronuk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/1625756
[19:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1625756 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "[FFe] KDE Applications into the Yakkety archive (including KDEpim)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[19:10] <valorie> right?
[19:12] <valorie> it would be good if we had Phil fighting for those on our behalf
[19:13] <acheronuk> it would be a sensible update, especially as many of the apps that currently sit in the archive cannot stand a rebuild
[19:15] <acheronuk> we need a willing uploader prepared to put their name against it, and have that done it enough time to firefight problems
[19:18] <valorie> acheronuk: amen
[19:18] <valorie> so let's make clivejo do it!
[19:18] <valorie> get that meeting scheduled clive!
[19:19] <clivejo> I need a sponsor
[19:20] <acheronuk> sgclark: agreed earlier if I am not mistaken? or do you need more than that?
[19:20] <clivejo> she said she would add feedback, but not sponsor me
[19:20] <sgclark> what?
[19:21] <sgclark> whaddya mean by sponsor?
[19:21] <clivejo> I need a dev to sponsor me
[19:21] <clivejo> no?
[19:22] <acheronuk> maybe I mis-read
[19:23] <sgclark> if you require a sponsor then certainly I will
[19:23] <sgclark> I will fill out testimonial today, I swear.
[19:23] <clivejo> from the wiki - Talk to your sponsors beforehand and ask them to add some information to the wiki page. In a regular application, you will have 3-5 sponsors.
[19:24] <acheronuk> kubuntu is not quite regular ATM
[19:24] <sgclark> oh, well certainly count me as one sponsor, surely Phil is another.
[19:24] <sgclark> yeah definately not regular
[19:25] <sgclark> anyway I have to step out for errands. bbl
[19:25] <clivejo> sgclark: you have two Jon and Rick
[19:26] <clivejo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/sgclark/DeveloperApplication
[19:26] <sgclark> so clearly 2 is enough :)
[19:26] <clivejo> I cant even get one!
[19:26] <sgclark> you will have me
[19:27] <clivejo> Jon commented but wont act as sponsor
[19:27] <sgclark> I just have to head a few, sorry, I am a slacker, but you do have me. valorie could even sponsor you
[19:27] <sgclark> head out*
[19:28]  * clivejo knows sgclark is no slacker!
[19:28] <valorie> I certainly will, but I'm not a devel
[19:28] <sgclark> neither was Rik
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[19:28] <sgclark> and that is who I have. well and Jon
[19:29] <sgclark> anyway, as stated above Kubuntu is not in a state that we can require 5 dev sponsors.
[19:29] <clivejo> sgclark is like a graceful swan, gliding along the surface, but paddling away like a crazy woman under the water :P
[19:29] <sgclark> lol
[19:29] <acheronuk> I'm sure current circumstances can be taken account of
[19:30]  * clivejo hugs sgclark
[19:30] <clivejo> Im glad I got to meet you
[19:30] <clivejo> hungover or not :P
[19:30] <valorie> lol
[19:30]  * sgclark hugs clivejo
[19:30] <sgclark> lol
[19:31] <sgclark> I was indeed.
[19:31] <sgclark> had fun that day though, exploring with you two.
[19:31] <sgclark> anyway lol I have to go, bbl
[19:31] <clivejo> be good :)
[19:32] <sgclark> I behave more when I am home lol. Plus I am caring for my grams. need to be clear of mind :)
[19:33] <valorie> my point still stands: set a date for your meeting, clivejo
[19:33] <valorie> santa, you too
[19:34]  * acheronuk needs to sort a date to
[19:37] <valorie> acheronuk: soon, yes
[19:37] <valorie> I wish sooner!
[19:37] <acheronuk> valorie: after yakkety
[19:37] <valorie> ok
[19:38] <clivejo> hi silver_saucepan
[19:39] <acheronuk> valorie: I wish sooner as well
[19:39] <acheronuk> and I wish clivejo's ASAP!
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[20:22] <acheronuk> \o/ https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2016-September/010768.html
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[20:32] <tsimonq2> clivejo: if you don't mind, I'll submit my times too :)
[20:33] <clivejo> you arent invited
[20:33] <acheronuk> lol
[20:34] <tsimonq2> clivejo: too late ;)
[20:34] <clivejo> Ill have you removed by force!
[20:36] <tsimonq2> do you really don't want me to come that bad? I thought we were an open community :(
[20:36] <acheronuk> bouncer-bot does removals?
[20:38] <valorie> everyone is welcome
[20:38] <tsimonq2> thank you valorie 
[20:38] <clivejo> :O
[20:38] <valorie> he's just yanking your chain
[20:38] <clivejo> its my party
[20:38] <tsimonq2> lol
[20:38] <clivejo> sorry meeting
[20:38] <valorie> you don't get to vote, though
[20:38] <tsimonq2> I'm fine with that :)
[20:41]  * acheronuk will be bookmarking the IRC logs for study
[20:42] <tsimonq2> ^
[20:42] <tsimonq2> clivejo: oh, you want a TWO hour torture session?
[20:43] <tsimonq2> clivejo: that's what you volunteered for
[20:43] <tsimonq2> (hell, for mine I'll go 4 if y'all want :P)
[20:43] <clivejo> no, just didnt want a page full of time options
[20:43] <tsimonq2> bah
[20:43] <tsimonq2> naw, you just volunteered for two hours ;)
[20:43] <clivejo> it'll only be five minutes anyway
[20:44] <valorie> rofl
[20:44] <valorie> before you're tossed out on your ear?
[20:44] <clivejo> yup!
[20:44] <valorie> right
[20:44] <clivejo> Haruld will ask a question and make me cry
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[20:44]  * valorie will bring a box of kleenex [tm]
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[20:51] <ahoneybun> it is not only the KC for the Developer meeting?
[20:51] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: Kubuntu Developers vote
[20:51] <tsimonq2> afair
[20:52] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: your not a Kubuntu Developr
[20:52] <ahoneybun> *Developer
[20:52] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: I know
[20:53] <valorie> ahoneybun: usually the KC isn't even involved
[20:53] <acheronuk> Requirements: Existing ~kubuntu-members member, survive an interview by ~kubuntu-dev, get accepted by a majority of existing developers and at least 3 existing developers.
[20:53] <ahoneybun> mm opps
[20:53] <valorie> however, if we can't round up enough KDs, the KC will probably have to chime in
[20:53] <ahoneybun> but don't we only have yofelll
[20:54] <valorie> well, Scarlett is a KD, as is sitter, Jon, Quintasan and a few others
[20:54] <acheronuk> I assume that KC can vote collectively in place of one -dev?
[20:54] <acheronuk> if required
[20:55] <valorie> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev
[20:55] <valorie> clivejo: I would write to each of those people individually too
[20:55] <acheronuk> proxy votes allowed?
[20:55] <valorie> just in case some can make it
[20:55] <valorie> acheronuk: yes, votes are allowed by mail
[20:56] <valorie> after the meeting, if we don't have enough people attending
[20:57] <valorie> clivejo: obviously not all 90, but the top 10
[21:10] <sgclark> clivejo: testimonial done
[21:11] <clivejo> sgclark: thanks
[21:11] <valorie> \o/
[21:11] <sgclark> my pleasure
[21:48] <santa_> clivejo: I guess we could drop the epochs but we may need to rename the source package
[21:48] <clivejo> I guessed that
[21:48] <clivejo> the git repo too?
[21:48] <santa_> nope
[21:49] <santa_> the git repos should always match the upstream name, otherwise we have to manage the "exceptions" in the KA
[21:49] <santa_> btw I have in my todo re-writing the scripts to find out the source package names
[21:55] <santa_> valorie: I have edited the poll with the next weekends, if everything is ok I'll send a mail to -devel notifying that
[21:56] <valorie> cool!
[21:58] <acheronuk> Is it just me, or do the regressions already present for the KDE stuff here not look good news? http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html
[22:00] <valorie> unsure
[22:00] <valorie> I guess we should ask?
[22:03] <valorie> and I suppose the sooner we fix, the better
[22:04] <valorie> lots of "Not touching package due to block request by freeze (contact #ubuntu-release if update is needed)"
[22:06] <acheronuk> that is a given just this second. It's the red regressions I mean
[22:10] <tsimonq2> hey everyone!
[22:10] <tsimonq2> we're waiting for the Lubuntu Alternate images to be spun up
[22:10] <valorie> those look ugly indeed
[22:10] <tsimonq2> then, that's the only thing holding us back
[22:10] <tsimonq2> the critical bug has been fixed
[22:10] <tsimonq2> so show how much you want this final beta to happen ;)
[22:11] <tsimonq2> and TEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:13] <valorie> gosh I love zsync
[22:13] <valorie> just like that I have the new image
[22:13] <tsimonq2> lol yeah
[22:13] <tsimonq2> valorie: but it's not published yet ;)
[22:13] <valorie> I got the daily
[22:14] <valorie> it should be the same, right?
[22:14] <acheronuk> valorie: ugly, yes. I'm just not sure how genuinely critical, and if we can ask to be overridden.
[22:15] <tsimonq2> valorie: well the image is building now
[22:16] <acheronuk> I know yofl got frustrated with those autopackage tests on the Qt transition and last frameworks & plasma uploads
[22:22] <valorie> well somehow we should fix either our packages or the tests
[22:25] <clivejo> wish it was that easy!
[22:25] <acheronuk> maybe some will automagically fix when more of it all gets built! 
[22:26] <acheronuk> wishful thinking  ^^^
[22:26]  * clivejo nods
[22:26] <valorie> I assume some will 
[22:28] <acheronuk> a few days should tell....
[23:25] <valorie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/Beta2/Kubuntu is started
[23:25] <valorie> someone help!
[23:25] <valorie> need some screenshots, some accurate info
[23:26] <valorie> some testing of all the links
[23:26] <valorie> etc.
[23:29] <tsimonq2> HEY EVEYONE
[23:29] <tsimonq2> *EVERYONE
[23:29] <tsimonq2> (cc acheronuk clivejo valorie)
[23:30] <tsimonq2> Lubuntu needs testing, we're the last to mark as ready
[23:30] <tsimonq2> Lubuntu Alternate
[23:32] <ahoneybun> clivejo: what version did you leave kdenlive at on your ppa?
[23:47] <clivejo> no idea!
[23:57] <ahoneybun> 16.04 it seems
[23:57] <ahoneybun> super stable for me 
[23:57] <ahoneybun> never crashed once while editing show 16
[23:58] <ahoneybun> I was wondering since I saw that the official ppa added YY 16.08