[00:09] <mate|6240> Hello
[01:04] <wemerson> witch language can i use? English or portuguese ?
[01:08] <wemerson> i really satisfied with the consume of ram from ubuntu mate. But the appearance is not too good. I wanna install Ubuntu without mate, but my hardware system is too week, only 2gb of memory ram.
[01:08] <wemerson> what you recommends to me ?
[01:31] <vyadhaka> I am trying to install ubuntu mate but with LVM+btrfs, I dont see an option to create an LVM on the entire disk when  I get to partitioning? any suggestions
[07:10] <samuel> 1212
[07:10] <samuel> hi
[14:13] <hou> My hardware is making strange noise like something is tuning radio. Can someone help me with that?
[14:22] <hou> anyone?
[14:23] <pavlushka> !help | hou
[14:23] <pavlushka> !patience | hou
[17:03] <tiox> 'Sup.
[17:05] <ouroumov__> Sup tiox
[17:11] <tiox1> All that joining and leaving, lol
[17:12] <tiox1> See, Discord never suffers from netsplits.
[17:13] <tiox1> Well... it does occasionally, maybe but they don't behave like the above.
[17:17] <ouroumov__> tiox1, how much people have you got on discord?
[17:21] <tiox> One active, and that is me. :(
[17:22] <tiox> But hey, the project was a flop. Probably won't be a flop in the future.
[17:22] <tiox> Going to just keep it around, maybe in the next few years, much like any open source project somebody will go "Oh cool!" and tell their friends.
[17:26] <tiox> Oh also ouroumov ouroumov_ ouroumov__ the Discord guild I made over time generated nine users; Of those, one moderator (wizd3m) and one developer (camiller).
[17:27] <ouroumov__> That's better than my school's IRC channel.
[17:32] <tiox1> ouroumov__ lol
[17:33] <ouroumov__> One clone down.
[17:36] <tiox1> ouroumov__ kill them all!
[17:40] <ouroumov__> tiox1, nah, the other one is my work machine
[17:40] <ouroumov__> I'd rather it stays up that way I can check up on what happened during my morning commute
[17:44] <tiox1> Ah. Fair enough.
[17:45] <tiox1> Now, ouroumov how can I advertise my guild on Discord without being banned for being a doof about it?
[17:45] <tiox1> That's what I've been racking my brain over.
[17:45] <tiox1> Also gdi Freenode I just want to rename myself. *sigh*
[17:50] <ouroumov__> tiox1, I wouldn't know, though I was granted some restricted moderation tools, I'm not a full-blown forum moderator.
[17:51] <ouroumov__> tiox1, that said I don't see why anyone would ban you for it, especially if it's in the uncategorized section
[17:51] <ouroumov__> tiox1, if you want to be sure send a PM to v3xx
[18:03] <tiox1> Hey ouroumov__ maybe you should try out Discord and recommend it for your school. In the short-term it can be an assist for student's "extra-curricular" activities where they just hop on and spit salt at one another, but in the long-term you can maybe bring up Linux and bring a few people to Linux-oriented servers (like mine) for some more in-depth discussion and advocacy for Linux as a gaming platform.
[18:04] <tiox1> Linux-oriented guilds rather. Sometimes terminology is inconsistent.
[18:39] <home_> Hey
[18:39] <home_> hey
[18:39] <home_> hey
[18:39] <home_> Br
[18:40] <home_> Heyyy
[18:40] <home_> ~_~
[19:46] <ouroumov__> Damn it ain't stopping.
[19:47] <ouroumov__> Freenode twitter feed says there's an ongoing DDoS attack
[19:52] <tiox1> Know what service doesn't have an ongoing DDoS attack affecting it?
[19:52] <tiox1> (Take a guess.)
[20:00] <ubuntu-mate> hey there, just booted my powermac g5 from the ubuntu mate 16.04.5 live cd. The problem i have is that only one third of my screen is visible and the rest is black
[20:02] <tiox1> Followed this? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2274612
[20:05] <ubuntu-mate> no browsing is kinda difficult when you only have a third of your 4:3 monitor, thanks to your link i got firefox to open, now i can drag and resize it
[20:08] <tiox1> ubuntu-mate: If you do sudo apt install links (or links2) you can press <Ctrl< + <Alt> + Fx (x = 1-6) to display another text-based shell so you can use that for browsing the web. You can then do the same except press F7 instead to return at your X session with the graphics 'n' stuff.
[20:10] <tiox1> Oh also, you can install finch for a text-based messenger you can use in any of those other shells.
[20:10] <tiox1> Just if you don't want to use your X session until you feel like you've fixed your problem.
[20:10] <ubuntu-mate> unfortunately even the full screen terminal shows only the right part of the screen
[20:11] <tiox1> Odd.
[20:11] <ubuntu-mate> My monitor seems to work alright since the osd does show up on the left part of the screen
[20:11] <ubuntu-mate> i will go and replace the vga cable
[20:12] <tiox1> ubuntu-mate: If there's no answer from us, consult either ##Linux or #arch for more information about a resolution to your issue. Ironically enough, despite all the information we have our brothers who use Arch or don't care about Ubuntu in general can sometimes yield something helpful.
[20:15] <ubuntu-mate> alright thank you! have a nice evening (assuming you're in the same time zone)
 (Take a guess.) Discord?
[20:15] <tiox1> lolyup
[20:16] <tiox1> Seems like Freenode fixed the DDoS issue though I doubt it's the last time.
[20:17] <tiox> Had to leave a protected channel to change my nick.
[20:17] <tiox> Because for some odd reason ##hardware is super-restrictive.
[20:19] <ouroumov__> Is it just me or is the forum kinda quiet these days?
[20:21] <tiox> The forum is rather quiet.
[20:21] <tiox> But I believe that's because there isn't much troubleshooting or new information being made there.
[20:21] <ouroumov__> Maybe it means there's enough info already in the thread for effective search queries when people are trying to fix stuff
[20:22] <tiox> I know any time I do something in that forum it eventually bubbles upt o page 1 of a Google search.
[20:22] <tiox> my thread "Mint-Y is pretty okay" is result #10 for query "ubuntu mint y"
[20:24] <ouroumov__> Is it just me or is the forum kinda quiet these days?
[20:24] <tiox> The forum is rather quiet.
[20:24] <tiox> But I believe that's because there isn't much troubleshooting or new information being made there.
[20:24] <ouroumov__> Maybe it means there's enough info already in the thread for effective search queries when people are trying to fix stuff
[20:24] <tiox> I know any time I do something in that forum it eventually bubbles upt o page 1 of a Google search.
[20:24] <tiox> my thread "Mint-Y is pretty okay" is result #10 for query "ubuntu mint y"
[20:24] <tiox> I never made the guide for installing it because it's like, stupidly hard to install so it matches with Linux Mint's installation. I must be missing depends or some settings in Linux Mint are just _that different_ as to not line up with Ubuntu proper.
[20:24] <tiox> But, I did discover that Mint-Y Darker doesn't work in LM Mate either.
[20:25] <tiox> So that makes me feel _sort of_ good about it not working in Ubuntu MATE.
[20:27] <Langley> Hello, why does wanting to remove thunderbird also want to remove ubuntu-mate-desktop ?? Wont that break my system?
[20:28] <tiox> meta packages could in theory break your system only on update, but you can safely remove them in practice.
[20:28] <Langley> But is it right that it want to remove it...?
[20:33] <ouroumov__> Langley, ubuntu-mate-desktop and ubuntu-mate-core are metapackages. This issue is know and the structure is gonna be changed in 16.10 so as to allow removing them without that kind of problems
[20:33] <tiox> Honestly Thunderbird being removed shouldn't be a problem which demands ubuntu-mate-desktop and I made a small fuss about it on the forum. Ubuntu 16.10... what ouroumov said.
[20:33] <ouroumov__> Yup
[20:33] <ouroumov__> I agree too, I like to be able to remove stuff.
[20:33] <ouroumov__> Though the inconvenient is minor for me, I only ever wanted to remove Plank
[20:33] <tiox> No use complaining about it, I just find it stupid af and I am glad it is being resolved in 16.10.
[20:33] <tiox> Doesn't help me, though since I intend to remain with LTS until next LTS.
[20:33] <Langley> Or would there otherwise be any problems removing thunderbird? I don't need it
[20:33] <Langley> Me too... but no problems removing it then?
[20:34] <tiox> Shouldn't be an issue.
[20:34] <tiox> I would just put in a shell script meta packages to reinstall as you modify the system, just to be safe.
[20:34] <tiox> (Since Linux Mint enforces installation of system metas as part of the upgrade process last I looked.)
[20:35] <Langley> Can you explain that in english
[20:36] <tiox> Think of it like a Windows batch file. And even then you can just dump a bunch of commands in plain text and said .sh fiile (or any document ran with sh, doesn't have to end with .sh) would perform those commands in sequence.
[20:36] <tiox> Nice for mass deployment.
[20:37] <Langley> I don't get what you want to do
[20:38] <tiox> Uhm... what?
[20:39] <Langley> You just said "I wanna do x" but I don't understand why
[20:39] <Langley> Anyways I gotta go make dinner now, thanks
[20:39] <tiox> Alright. Sorry for any misunderstanding.
[20:40] <tiox> ouroumov__ did you understand what i meant?
[21:15] <rahtgaz> tiox, I think I understood what you mean. But reinstalling those meta packages will reinstall the stuff you uninstalled. WHich is quite a pain.
[21:16] <rahtgaz> One of the reasons (not the most important one) why I just prefer to reinstall instead of upgrade
[22:40] <TheMariuz> sad to say but mate had too many bugs, and linux mint sorted out most
[23:58] <orlando_> oi
[23:58] <orlando_> alguem?