[01:46] <jhonyred> someone from Brazil
[03:10] <Jiraiya_> Hi, someone online?
[03:14] <Jiraiya_> hi
[03:14] <Jiraiya_> sargosse
[03:14] <Jiraiya_> hannah
[04:46] <cc> hmm,openstore is a good thing
[04:46] <cc> it's better than Ubuntu-shop
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> cc: link?
[04:55] <cc> https://open.uappexplorer.com/app/com.mikeasoft.cutespotify
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> cc: cool
[04:57] <cc> really good!
[05:11] <cc> one questiong,how to uninstall some applications?i cant find it on ubuntu-shop,so i cant move it out
[05:12] <cc> scoper
[05:33] <cc> i find a way to uninstall it
[05:33] <cc> wow
[06:53] <cc> is there any good application about irc on ubuntu phone?
[07:58] <Mirv> mardy: hi! could you test now on otherwise "clean" machine/device the https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1997 ?
[07:59] <Mirv> the silo is ready, it's just regenerating diffs now
[08:01] <mardy> Mirv: ok
[08:10] <mardy> Mirv: tested, it works!
[08:11] <mardy> Mirv: though it's hard to tell how clean my machine actually is; but I'm sure that I've the signon-ui from the archive, as well as Qt
[08:17] <mcphail> cc: IRC clients are difficult as the phone keeps dropping the connection when the app is put into the background or the screen goes off
[08:18] <Mirv> mardy: ok, great! hopefully this is the real complete fix now :) I'll click Approved on the silo since the autopkgtests will take ages (the whole day or more), but I'll smoke test on phone a bit too
[08:18] <mcphail> cc: There's a quassel client in the store (which will work with a persistent quassel server back end) but I can't get the client to work properly
[08:27] <cc> MCMic: i tpye "sudo apt-get install quassel"
[08:27] <cc> it already download it
[08:27] <cc> nearly 120M
[08:27] <cc> but it cant work....and now i dont know how to move it out,
[08:27] <cc> i cant find it,,,,
[08:47] <popey> cc: you installed quassel on the phone?
[08:47] <cc> yeah..
[08:51] <popey> I wouldn't use apt on the phone..
[08:51] <cc> ...
[08:54] <duflu> popey means that OTA updates don't honour apt installed packages. They may go missing or get corrupted at the next OTA
[08:54] <popey> also, it can fill the phone up
[08:54] <popey> and if you update packages, it can break boot
[08:54] <duflu> Indeed
[08:54] <duflu> popey: Hmm, so why is the command there?
[08:55] <mcphail> cc: The idea is you install the quassel client from the Store on the phone, and a quassel server on another machine which will maintain a persistent IRC connection
[08:55] <popey> heh interesting question.
[08:55] <popey> wonder if apt / dpkg could be removed post image creation
[08:55] <duflu> popey: The usual answer is unexpected dependencies
[08:55] <duflu> I want to say remove it but I use it for development
[08:56] <popey> although, that said people already jump through hoops to make it writable, I imagine they'd "Find a way" Ⓒ Jeff Goldblum
[08:56] <mcphail> cc: You can run a quassel server on the phone itself, but not by installing with apt-get
[08:56] <mcphail> (unless you want to break things)
[08:58] <mcphail> cc: the "mcphail_quassel" user who has just joined the channel is from a quassel server running on my phone. I can connect to it using the quassel client from the store, but it doesn't seem to work weel enough to write to the channel yet
[08:58] <mcphail> cc: so consider it a "work in progress"
[08:59] <cc> i see
[08:59] <mcphail> cc: if the quassel client gets updated, I'll post my server app so others can use it
[09:56] <ahayzen> Mirv, o/ Hi, i've tested the qtmultimedia silo (1972) and it works \o/, there is a minor change required to qtubuntu-media for it to work. Would it be possible for this branch to be added to the same silo/request? (https://code.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/qtubuntu-media/fix-1510225-isReadOnly-not-respecting-canEditTracks/+merge/306849)
[09:57] <ahayzen> Mirv, or is it better to ask Jim when he is online?
[10:00] <Mirv> ahayzen: added, and clicked Build https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1972
[10:00] <ahayzen> Mirv, awesome thanks!
[10:04] <miumiu> HI everybody
[10:05] <miumiu> I have 2 mobile oppo r281 & galaxy y duos GT-s6102  and I want install ubuntu touch ?
[10:06] <miumiu> what the mobile i should choose install ubuntu touch ?
[10:11] <miumiu> what mobile should I choose ? samsung galaxy y duos gt-s6102 / oppo r281 ?
[10:37] <jgdx> !devices | miumiu
[10:52] <miumiu> thanks
[14:14] <Mirv> oSoMoN: even if I change the user agent for a webapp for the banking site I'm interested in, it throws an error - not immediately like earlier, but later when trying to log in - however, with the same user agent in desktop Firefox with Responsive Design Mode (ie portrait mobile like, and with custom user-agent), it works fine. any idea what they could using to detect it's not really real Chrome but
[14:14] <Mirv> where Firefox with Chrome user agent is ok?
[14:14] <Mirv> oSoMoN: I did clean .local, .config and .cache in between, because that also seemed to affect (if I had wrong user agent first, it immediately threw error page eve if I fixed a better user agent, if I didn't clean up)
[14:15] <davmor2> Mirv: is the login initiated in a second window if so check if that is producing the same useragent string
[14:15] <grandrew> Hi all! does anybody know how to manually start indicator-network? I ran out of free space on my phone and indicator broke and does not start anymore - I want to manually check what is going on
[14:16] <Mirv> davmor2: no, same window (it doesn't give the slide from bottom to up that happens on some sites)
[14:16] <oSoMoN> Mirv, can you try modifying the global UA string (value of the 'defaultUA' property in /usr/lib/{arch}/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Web/UserAgent02.qml) and see if that works better?
[14:21] <Mirv> oSoMoN: no, similar problem (better than if using no UA agent, but similar to webapp override)
[14:22] <Mirv> they're detecting some other stuff than UA, but for some reason desktop Firefox faking to be Chrome Mobile is better than Chromium/Oxide faking to be Chrome Mobile
[14:26] <oSoMoN> Mirv, then I don’t know… afaik firefox is pretty strict about not pretending to be who it isn’t, so I doubt they do anything else than the UA override
[14:26] <oSoMoN> Mirv, a bug report with a link to your bank’s website to reproduce the issue would be useful (unless it can’t be observed without logging in)
[14:28] <ogra_> Mirv, he also needs your account data and your login indeed ;)
[14:28] <ogra_> oSoMoN, happy to provide you the target data for the "test" transfers ;)
[14:29] <oSoMoN> heh :)
[14:30] <davmor2> ogra_: that's so kind to to let us target your account for transfers, /me transfers £200 out
[14:30] <ogra_> \o/
[14:31] <Mirv> oSoMoN: unfortunately it errors out (with the fake UA) only after netering username and password
[14:31] <davmor2> ogra_: wouldn't want your account to get too full dude anything I can do to help you out ;)
[14:32] <Mirv> oSoMoN: I tried with frieza too, so it's not about low resolution or anything
[14:32] <Mirv> oSoMoN: there's a zillion things of course that can be found with javascript
[14:33] <oSoMoN> Mirv, in the end if a website really insists on not being browser-agnostic, there’s not much we can do…
[14:34] <Mirv> oSoMoN: oh actually it seems there's a possibility of not logging in and getting the error, filing a bug
[14:34] <oSoMoN> good
[14:34] <Mirv> oSoMoN: yeah they want to "officially" support only > 1% browser strings, even thouh they acknowledge it would probably work with Chromium based browsers
[14:36] <oSoMoN> stupid
[14:38] <Mirv> oSoMoN: ok bug #1628134 filed
[14:39] <oSoMoN> Mirv, thanks
[14:40] <Mirv> it's interesting what they're doing given the Firefox UA hack working
[16:46] <torusJKL> I also posted this on ask ubuntu : http://askubuntu.com/questions/830154/system-settings-screen-blank-after-ubuntu-phone-upgrade-on-meizu-pro-5
[16:48] <dobey> wow is freenode getting smacked around by a DDoS?
[16:49] <k1l> seems so
[16:49] <davmor2> dobey: looks that way